Caylee Anthony’s mother, Casey Anthony was brought back into court Wednesday morning. The results seem to be something her sleazebag attorney was quite pleased with but I have to wonder. In the long run has she really won this one or will it hurt her down the road when they find her guilty and she tries calling for a mistrial because of a conflict of interest involving the sleazebag.
Orange County Circuit Court Judge Stan Strickland ruled that he found there was no conflict of interest there during the 40 minute court hearing.
Prosecution argued stating that the judge should be looking into how Anthony is paying for her defense since it is public knowledge that before all this started she had no money. “We are concerned with this case. The objection doesn’t state any legal basis,” said prosecutor Jeff Ashton. “The way to diffuse this issue right now is… to make sure that the record is clear of exactly what the situation is, exactly what the financial arrangements are.”
He continued his argument saying that he was concerned if Casey Anthony is convicted of the first degree charge she could call it a conflict of interest between her and her attorney which could be grounds for the case to be held again.
Casey Anthony appeared in the courtroom today with her hair pulled back and looking so smug. As I sat there watching her during the hearing on the video, all I could think of was how could she sit there with no worries. She had the kind of look as if she was thinking she will never be found guilty. She acts like no one can touch her. She thinks she can get what ever she wants. Her parents George and Cindy Anthony appeared in court too. I did notice that at the end of the hearing Casey didn’t even look back at them to say good bye or anything. She seemed to me as being so cold.
The prosecutors wanted to know how Casey Anthony is paying for her defense. They can only assume that Baez and the rest of the defense team that Baez has hired are surely not working for free. Baez claims that how he puts together his team is not a matter of public record. Judge Strickland questioned Baez to find out for himself if there would be any conflict of interest here, asking him if there was any possible rights for future book and movie deals about Casey Anthony’s story. Baez told the judge that he has no literary agreement with Casey Anthony. When Ashton asked for him to define “her story” Baez objected to the question.
Strickland asked Anthony questions regarding the affidavit which she signed and confirmed with her that she signed it saying she signed a retainer agreement with Baez and she did not give him any rights to her story.
The judge called for a meeting in his chambers to discuss the possible conflicts. The TV Guy reported that WKMG-Channel 6’s Adam Longo said that Casey Anthony would have to answer questions in front of prosecutors and the judge but most likely she would only speak away from cameras. When Longo turned to a former prosecutor, Elizabeth Rahter as his expert, she said, “To be able to get around any sort of conflict for appellate reasons, Casey has to do the talking. They’ll ask her where the money is coming from.”
Rahter told Longo, “She really has to say I trust this guy enough that I’m willing to bet my life on it.” She said that Casey needs to say these things in private so whatever she says won’t prejudice a jury.
Bill Sheaffer from WFTV-Channel 9 said, “She will say and do whatever it takes and have her lawyers say and do whatever it takes for her to gain an acquittal in this case.
When they returned to the courtroom and the hearing resumed Judge Strickland ruled that he was convinced that no conflict exists. When asked if there was anything else before he closed this hearing sleazebag asked that the judge remind the court that what lawyers and judges discussed behind closed doors in front of a court reporter this morning was private information and needed to stay that way. Ashton took offense to this and told the Judge that they did not need to be reminded of that but nonetheless he agreed. The judge appeared a bit irritated and told the lawyers that this was getting old and then he left the courtroom.
Baez had this smirk on his face that needed to be slapped off. He acted like a spoiled child that just got his way with the judge yet again. I have to wonder though if he has though. Maybe for right now but in the end he might not have. I still believe there is something going on behind closed doors to make the deals they are denying but perhaps she has given permission for someone else to sell her “story”, but this is only my opinion, no facts. Just call it a gut feeling. I do feel like if this is so, that Baez’s is involved to be able to receive benefits from any such sales though.
George and Cindy Anthony slipped out of the courtroom without talking to reporters but Baez had to say his peace. “We are glad this is behind us,” he said. “I have told everyone all along that defense has not done anything unethical in any way, shape or form. These accusations are just that.” Once again I would love to be the one that could slap that smirk look off his face. I guess he thinks that everyone should believe him just because he says he hasn’t done anything wrong. And just because the Judge doesn’t see it, it doesn’t mean it isn’t there though.
The one good thing about this is that now they have it on record that he specifically denied it so if she wants to cry out conflict of interest later on during the trial this will all be brought back up and hopefully she would be denied a mistrial.
All this seems to have turned toward Casey Anthony now. Everyone wants to focus on her and not her daughter, little Caylee Marie Anthony. There is rarely even a mention of Caylee anymore other than to hear them say the child’s mother is innocent. What kind of justice for Caylee can this be? Casey Anthony needs to be reminded everyday of the little girl she took the life from. I wonder if she will ever show any emotion that has nothing to do with herself, over the loss of this precious child.
Caylee you will never be forgotten. We all know you are in a much better place now. God bless you sweetie. We love you!
Jan Barrett













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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackAs usual I agree ~ let’s smack Bozo! Justice will prevail………
very surreal that M still hasn’t shown any grief for the death of caylee. It does not matter who did it in that regard, she has not cried for her at all that I have seen. What kind of person could do that? Great article Jan
He always has that stupid smirky look on his face, I cannot stand it! Both of them look like they are always gettin somethin over on everybody!!!! We will see in the end!
Reminds me of Lee’s depo when he kept laughing and smiling when it wasn’t the right time..
None of the Ants have ever shown appropriate emotions. I suppose that’s because they all look at things differently than most normal people. Like looking thru eyeglasses that make MURDERING a child OKAY! Get NEW GLASSES!
jan great article, i to think m has given g&c permission to sell the story to pay this “dream team” good point made that m has not shown any emotion for her dead child..no matter who killed her none has ever been shown, i find it irritating that no one sits on caylee’s side of the courtroom, and i hate the fact c&g have purchased a NEW ATV&BOAT to look for missing children!!! if in fact they really think m is innocent shouldnt they be trying to find this zanni???? id be looking the world over to find my childs killer…this whole family thinks they are in some way privlaged, and e1 is suppose to believe what they say, even tho it all lies….also if they accually thought someone else did this crime they wouldnt have touched anything in that car, from the beginning they have lied and covered up for m…who the heck canot tell when someone is 7mo preg???? whats wrong with these people???? i cant wait for m to be convicted sentanced and then forgotten, maybe then her smug look will be gone..and we will have a victory for our angel caylee!!!!
the day of m’s conviction i will always think of it as “CAYLEE”S DAY” and i will rember her always!!!
beast @8:08 i know how do you sit in a court room while they are discussing the “remains” of your child and not break down??? i was crying here, especially if you have done nothing it should break your heart, but m was smiling and joking with her “dt”….
got stuff to do guys..will check in later, maybee there will be news on haleigh…hope your feling better today pickly poo….later guys:)
it’s almost like she has distanced herself emotionally. That it was not her daughter. Is that what a sociopath does>?
Hi, Beast! If I remember correctly I believe that a sociopath does not relate to other people normally. They look at everyone with a “what can you do for me” point of view. They do not have any emotions per se (except anger maybe). They do not know real love or friendship or affection (or perhaps it turns on and off). Look how Maggot used her parents and friends - stole from them, lied to them etc. She had to regard Caylee the same way. If having Caylee around reflected well on Maggot or got her something (attention, gifts, made her feel special) then that was great. If Caylee got in the way, became a nuisance, or someone that Maggot’s boy friend was not interested in, then voila - poor Caylee becomes expendable. Simple as that. That’s a sociopath - I believe.
She’s convinced herself that our reality isn’t hers… If she puts it in her head that it wasn’t Caylee but say a mouse that she trapped in the kitchen and had to snuff it out because it was “suffering” and then bury it where she buried all the other animals then she’s not going to show emotion to something she wasn’t connected to, she did right by the mouse… But the sad fact is it was her baby…
She did what she did because she’s a piece of sh!t but to continue on with this charade she has to numb herself so she doesn’t show guilt…
Hi, Bmore! I don’t think that Maggot killed Caylee because she thought the child was suffering. That’s a rumor possibly started by the defense to see how it will play with the public. I don’t believe it for a minute. There is NO evidence that Caylee was abused by Sindee. However we ALL want to know what Maggot did with Caylee all those long days she pretended to go to work and all those long nights when she partied and we’re not sure where Caylee was - at least one of those was the night of June 16.
Bmore - totally agree with your 9:32 am post!
MTC, i don’t think she killed her for mercy… I was saying that she probably is putting that story in her head as a front to keep up the charade… You can’t have remorse or guilt if you don’t feel you did something wrong.. We know she did it so she is either convincing herself that she didn’t with her own imaginary story in her head or she’s just that heartless and doesn’t care or get it…
I’m not exactly sure how her mind works either…she does know right from wrong or she would have admitted it and not lied and hid caylees’ death from the world.
I think she does know it was caylee…i mean really how could she not…but she at some point…lost all emotional connection to her if she ever had any at all! And started her plan to murder her. Kc only had KC in mind…before she killed her …and especially have as she allowed her child to lay in a bag in the woods for months…no connection at all no remorse…cause what killr did was what killr wanted to do! That’s all that matters and the ability to feel remorse I guess is a none issue to her…because in her mind, she is happy to be rid of her burden!
She proved how happy didn’t she…the partying and the tatoo, the freedom she had to be little suzy homemaker to Tony!
She is NOT sad for Caylee…cause she is too busy being HAPPY FOR KC!
GREAT ARTICLE JAN! It is my belief that sindee and george are funneling money to bozo from the sale of the pictures and the home videos and the help find caylee donations…and they will continue to help finance their murdering little maggots defense with their own NEW FOUND FOUNDATION…that’s why they are so quick to this now and not after trial…
THOSE OF YOU WHO DON’T KNOW ALOT ABOUT GEORGE AND SINDEE…DON’T DONATE TO THEIR FOUNDATION YOU’LL ONLY BE HELPING PAY FOR KILLR…
LET THEM SINK MAGGOTS AND BOZOS SHOW BOAT..
and again, Caylee is helping pay for her murdering mothers defense…SO SICKENING…I HOPE THAT WHOLE FAMILY PAYS DEARLY…HAVING TO LIVE THE DEATH OF CAYLEE AND THE EVENTUAL LOSS OF THEIR DAUGHTER ISN’T ENOUGH FOR WHAT THEY HAVE DONE!
Bmore - You’re right. Maggot may be trying to tell herself a sad tale in order to try to LOOK sad in court. Or maybe she can just think about her own miserable future - that could make her look sad since the only person she cares about is herself.
You know I think that the Never Lose Hope Foundation donated money - very inappropriately - very early in this case. Possibly for something to do with Sindee and George. And right now I can’t remember to who or what the Foundation donated. Does anyone else remember this?
Not really up on the different foundations… Maybe we should start one too… A murdered kids foundation that funds justice to small victims when their family turns their back on them… Inspired by the Ants… lol
Bmore - That really is a good idea. Another of our bloggers (forgive me for not remembering who right now) suggested an effort to help young mothers who are not ready and/or help their families (parents etc). I can’ express it as well as she did but it was a great idea. I’ll see if I can find it!
Foundation or not I do hope to encourage individual efforts to continue to spread the truth about Sindee and George so innocent gullible people don’t get sucked in to their ridiculous plans for a new career in “finding missing children.” Arrgggh!
I don’t believe that they believe M didn’t do it… You’d have to have the mental capacity of a gnat… They know but don’t want to admit failure on their part… They don’t see the bigger picture that they’re making an a$$ out of themselves…
Good morning all! has anyone watched the Jim Hoover deposition. Frightening, he is obviously
hiding much information. He keeps asking Mr.Morgan the attorney whether he has to answer questions. He indicates on most of the questions that the answer is personal and private. Morgan tells him that when he intejected himself into the case,privacy went out the window. very strange indeed!!!
MTC could it be that it is finally settling in, that she is in deep doo doo? Finally? All it took was the better part of a year in jail to do it, and many LOSSES along the way, by her magnificent lawyer?
I wonder if G and C want maggot to live, to produce another baby for them? There are male guards where IT will be going, yes?
KC I do believe is on another planet. She isn’t even a GOOD Sociopath. They would KNOW to show appropriate normal responses to situations - LIKE crying when they see/hear information about her dead Caylee. Not this cold fish!
CMA obviously didn’t even THINK of her parents as she was leaving. NO THEY SHOULD LOOK AT HER! EVERYBODY LOOK AT HER! THE WORLD REVOLVES AROUND **HER**! She is a LEGEND in her OWN SICK MIND! Amazing, this pig doesn’t see things — as they are. I don’t believe she is capable. I wonder too if Cindy is the mother Sociopath?
She too can’t admit to herself, WHAT IS. Must be sick? Takes loads of meds (WHY?) … she hasn’t HIT the WALL, is not old yet. What? 40’s, 50’s?
I think a book should be written about the sickest Sociopath of all time CMA. SO BAD, “IT” KILLED!!! That’s the bottom line of CMA, a fully developed Sociopath. Maybe she got to be a world class flaming Sociopath from both genetics plus her envirnoment?
Caylee was showing signs she was very bright, becoming a person, talking, being able to express herself. TROUBLE IN RIVER CITY! If one is doing WRONG … we CANNOT have THAT!!!
I am grateful the Prosecution anticipates and thwarts any future reason for a Mistrial (and then a second Trial). BOZO is SO obnoxious! GLOATS when he WINS an *occasional battle* (he thinks), but WE WILL WIN THE WAR! HE WILL GET HIS somewhere in the future, maybe after the Trial. He has CEMENTED his union with CMA … somehow, insuring she will NEVER change lawyers, in spite of his being green behind the ears, and not the brightest bulb in the pack. Those 6-8 hour days alone, week after week in his office??
Nothing like a loser that FINALLY after 8 long years (and how many attempts?) FINALLY passed the BAR!!!
**He obviously MISSED the real lessons of life that education teaches.
STUCK at age 13 - forever BOZO! Other lawyers I notice, laugh at him, many of them. He is OUT of his element, and certainly doesn’t belong in that arena - at all! WAY over his head ….
Heart - What causes you to wonder “could it be that it is finally settling in, that she is in deep doo doo? Finally?”
It is possible that Maggot’s public image managers told her not to look at her parents and smile and wave like she has up to now. I am sure they are trying to change her behavior to improve her in the public’s eye. NEVER HAPPEN! Smile, don’t smile. I don’t care. She’s a sociopathic lying theiving, child killer!
Saluki - Hi! How are your dogs?
I’ll have to watch Hoover’s depo because I wonder what questions he considered too private. Gosh. He didn’t have any trouble slinging the dirt about other people!
Why can’t people just realize that a child’s life is WAY more important than their pathetic little “secrets.” Who cares about that? We need to nail a murderer here! For pete’s sake!
This case is like dealing with politians… They all lie and are crooked…
politicians… typo… lol
I am going to watch the Hoover thing too sometime today, but I find it very interesting that D Casey refused the be depoed yesterday.
From what I have read so far and seen on NG, the questions Hoover answered were virtually the same as the ones in the already released police interview. I believe this depo is stronger evidence because it is under oath in a formal setting (the interviews are sworn, but are iffier on a legal front). But Hoover’s answers seem to be the same.
So what is D Casey afraid of? Did he lie in his police interview? Everything he said is already public knowledge, so he cannot be afraid of releasing dirt. It seems that Morgan is going to ask him about his rumored affair with C, but why not go and answer what you want and refuse the questions you don’t like just as Lee did?
I think D Casey lied his A$$ off about getting the tip on the woods from that BS psychic who showed up on NG and swore that Verizon had screwed up her phone records so none of her calls to D showed up.
D knows he is caught in a lie and that the truth is one of the Ants directed him to that site…which would lead us to how they got the info…duh..from M…and then her goose is cooked and C will dump D and he won’t get to share in the Bozo treasure chest at the end of the Get-M-Off-Scot-Free Rainbow.
Space why can’t the police just get the phone records for D. Casey’s phones??? Aren’t we waiting on more stuff to be released?
Beast,
What a COSTLY roll in the hay that one was for KC, eh? Enter Caylee. It is SO hard to believe it ended in murder.
I don’t think she can show sadness about Caylee’s leaving us, because she feels NONE, only MANIC JOY!!! GREAT RELIEF thank God - and now onto the good life!
Can you imagine IT thinking IT could fool L.E. and get away with it? Ah, that’s the Sociopath in her. Add to that … her drugs. Poor poor sweet Caylee didn’t stand a chance. It was only a question of time.
Her fate was sealed I think when she started communicating pretty well, and talking. She could then tell … about the awful things CMA was doing to her.
I had Ether during surgery once, when little, ****so SCARY, so AWFUL***. I recall holding my breath it was so bad, but eventually I HAD to breathe! I can’t imagine experiencing that, THEN having IT AGAIN AND AGAIN AND AGAIN. And administered by a demented druggie? I at least had a licensed Dr. I was 3 I think. SO SCARY I never forgot it! Was very sick afterward too! I REMEMBER.
Nothing is EVER normal, concerning CMA is it.
Bmore,
Rest assured, the cops have his phone records and they pretty much told him as much during his interview. He lied about several things and they finally told him they already knew all the answers to all the questions they were asking and so they knew he was not being honest.
There will be stuff released all the way until the beginning of the trial (there is some legal date, but I don’t know what it is, but I am sure it is fluid like the actual trial start date…if it gets pushed back, probably gives the prosecution more time to submit evidence).
I do believe Jose got some stuff recently that we have not seen…I am speculating if the cops have the diary pages as rumored, it will show up in the next public dump. My personal theory is that Jose leaks the stuff as soon as he gets it, but maybe that is just me wanting him to be even more of a sleazebag than he already is…but his constant jabs about leaks convinces me it is really him…otherwise we have a multi-person conspiracy within Orange County and the State of Florida to convict M for a murder which she did commit…some of us call that justice…
On another note, if we really want to do something, once the trial actually begins, it sure would be nice to work out some vacation schedules with people to try to get someone in the court to sit on Caylee’s side…it sucks there is no one there for her…maybe there is a group of Caylee supporters in Orlando we could contact to ensure someone is there…
HI MTC. Not sure, could be wrong. I thought her eyes glazed over sometimes. Her everything seems to be just a “shadow” of what it was, the laughing, the smiles, all … almost forced. Not coming from deep inside her, real, superficial .. face only I think I was feeling. I know when she gets attention from some lawyer she almost beams for the moment… but in general, not sure. She almost looks drugged …
I agree they are probably working with their “experts” trying to change her entire image. Maybe it’s that then … (She DOES need working on to try to appear normal!) : )
Yes she is one nasty dangerous thing. I think congenital Sociopathy, plus envirnoment too, plus drugs. Caylee at the center of all the dysfunction and hatred/punishment. Didn’t stand a chance, as Mark Klass said.
SPACE I have always thought the leak was BOZO himself. Then he points the finger at the Prosecution… **SEE SEE SEE what they are doing to my client? SHE CAN’T HAVE a FAIR TRIAL NOW!!!** (All the stuff is out and some might not have gotten into “evidence”.) My poor client … this is all HURTING her case!! Par for the course, trying to make a “Record” for a Mistrial down the road.
What SCUM to do it, then point and blame the Prosecution. How LOW can it go? Dirty, sneaky, pig. That MUST be what the ever present smirk is. HE KNOWS what he is doing, and KNOWS the Prosecution KNOWS what he is doing… so he smirks.
The cat that swallowed the canary …
Heart,
Does Bozo’s clown smirk and M’s smirks as she answered the judge and Ron Cumming’s smirks when he says “I can’t honestly say, I was at work” all look the same to you?
Spacely @ 11:35 am I totally agree! I think D Casey was directed to the woods by the Ants. Why not just tell the truth for pete’s sake? Have they promised him the rainbow??? Dream on, PI (Pure Idiot). Maybe he’s done something he could lose his private eye license for! And also Spacely, I don’t think we have anything to worry about as far as having people sit on Caylee’s side of the courtroom during the trial. That trial will be jam packed with people lined up around the block. We can only hope that the people sitting there are actually on HER side! There really won’t be any way to know for sure.
Heart, it’s possible that Maggot is practicing trying to look mature and serious. (Failing)
And maybe was told not to wave and smile to Mama and Papa Moneybags. She just can’t pull it off! What she’s really feeling when she gets to court is “Wow! This is all about ME! I’m REALLY important! I’m on TV! Look at all these people here for ME!” Hence her juvenile “social” behavior. She never got past the juvenile stage obviously.
it’s sad when you still feel the need to cheat (lie about you doing the leaks yourself)on a game that is already lost…
By the way, Spacely do you remember reading somewhere not too long ago about a young man who found a bag of clothes and toys in the woods and took them to the Ants so they could see if they were Caylee’s? Of course Sindee said they were not. I don’t know what he did with the bag. But if that story is true, then if that bag had Caylee’s things in it Sindee KNEW that’s where the remains were. Then she sends D. Casey out to look. That makes sense to me. A little more even than thinking that Maggot told them where the remains were.
Do you remember that story? I cannot find it.
I’m afraid it might have been another blog’s story and never on the news which means it was probably rumor. Shoot.
Bmore - I don’t think Hosebag thinks there is any way he can really “lose!” Even if Maggot gets life, Hosebag will move on to bigger and better (worse) criminal cases. He’s famous now! He doesn’t have to win this case to “win,” you know?
I can’t imagine it being good for business if he looses at the big show… I don’t want a loser defending me, especially if he raises his rates cause of this case… Feels his media coverage earns him the right to a raise…
I have a “what if” question. M is being tried for murder, right? What if the jury comes back with not guilty of murder, can they still get her for manslaughter? Or do they have to have another trial?
I remember when George talked so sweet about caylee, telling about what food she loved good old green bean’s and how she would make him laugh and calling him jo,jo! Pappa !
1 know this hurt him, he loved her! I wonder what caylee would say to him now?
Do you remember me pappa, are im i that easey to forget?I love you and wish i was there with you, but you know why im not!
Someday i hope i see you again jo, jo! Please tell the truth so i can love you again,
your little princess!
MTC,
As far as I can remember, I have only read the story about the clothes and toys on here…either that or it was a rumor that Hoover or D Casey repeated in his first interview..but I can’t remember for sure, but I don’t think it was ever on NG.
There was another story about a book they found and maybe some toys or clothes, but that was down by the airport before the body was found…
Tori, The jury will have to come back with verdicts on all KC charge:
- First degree murder
- One count aggravated child abuse
- One count aggravated manslaughter of a child
- Four counts of providing false info to a law enforcement officer
in my company they started this email to spread indiviual good news to everyone in the company instead of always discussing the bad like the economy and stuff… The 1st guy to respond with his good news story told about the adoption of his 4th child, a 2 year old named Caleigh… How weird is that…
mtc… that article was titled:
Casey Anthony Case: “BOMBSHELL DEVELOPMENT” Cindy Anthony Saw Bag Found at Scene in August Blink on Crime Interview with Keith Williams Part 1 and Part 2 is on Blink On Crime
Hoover looks nervous
Lorim,
Good!
Linda said,
in March 26th, 2009 at 12:21 pm
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That broke my heart!
Lorim said,
in March 26th, 2009 at 12:23 pm
Tori, The jury will have to come back with verdicts on all KC charge:
- First degree murder
- One count aggravated child abuse
- One count aggravated manslaughter of a child
- Four counts of providing false info to a law enforcement officer
***********************
GUILTY
GUILTY
GUILTY
GUILTY ON ALL FOUR COUNTS…
What kind of time could she face in years on these alone?
good thing she is young, she just might be able to fullfill her whole damn sentence…
SHE IS FUGGED!
C~A,
Let’s hope.
I started watching the Hoover depo. What a jerk he is. I am not going to waste my time listening to him. He is a liar, too.
This is what I found out on sentencings:
- First degree murder Life
- One count aggravated child abuse 5 years starting on conviction date
- One count aggravated manslaughter of a child b>5 years starting on conviction date
- Four counts of providing false info to a law enforcement officer translates into 1st degree misdemeanor, 1 year plus a 1,000 fine in this case (4 years 4,000 fine)
This is what I found out on sentencings:
- First degree murder Life
- One count aggravated child abuse 5 years starting on conviction date
- One count aggravated manslaughter of a child 5 years starting on conviction date
- Four counts of providing false info to a law enforcement officer translates into 1st degree misdemeanor, 1 year plus a 1,000 fine in this case (4 years 4,000 fine)
I found this on Wikipedia under Caylee’s name… Any thoughts on it???
On Friday, October 24, 2008, a forensic report from Oak Ridge National Laboratory in Tennessee confirmed results from a DNA test showing “evidence consistent with decomposition” based on five “key” compounds out of over 400 possible found in the trunk of Casey Anthony’s car. DNA samples cannot confirm whether the source is alive or dead. The only DNA testing by the FBI was limited to 752 base pairs out of 16,569 base pairs (less than 5% of the mitochondrial genome sequence). Whether or not the decomposition is human is still unknown but indicated as a possibility. The process has not been affirmed by a Daubert Test in the courts.
Bmore….anyone can add to Wikipedia. It wouldn’t surprise me if someone in the defense or and Ant fan added that to the page.
i know they found her hair with the deathband but are they talking about the stain???
petition is up to 282…
hoover says “under oath”..he thinks it was an accident, and then someone panicked…whewwwww what a theory
Bmore…that would be my guess.
ROFLMAO Beast…Hoover is one smart cookie…..NOT!
Going to go watch the Hoover goober interview…
it has been no news days… so slow, even the blog today is dragging…
Lorim
It is 3 hours long
I watched the first 8 minutes, then quit
Tori….oh-my….I will be here forever. Did you watch it all the way through?
No, just the first part. 8 min.
I wonder which parts tell the goods? Maybe I will just turn it up and clean house…lol
Beast, you’re right..I have only watched 10 minutes of it and he is soooooo nervous!
Where are you all hearing the interview? Is there a link?
mb…YouTube RAW VIDEO: Private Eye Jim Hoover Deposition
C~A, Sorry ,I wanted to see if i could get a rise out of someone.
I have been thinking again and you no what happen’s when i start thinking!
I thought about having T-Shirt’s made with something like this on them!
All money made would go to the person who come’s forward and tell’s the truth about what happend to caylee!
All that seem’s to matter any more is (money!) I-am sure there are some people who know how casey treated caylee!
And know’s what happend to her!
Some one saw something someone know’s, you can bet on it!
There are people who were at the parties who no caylee was sleeping all the time, people who saw casey put her to sleep!
How do we get these people to come forward? They sold her picture’s for over 200,000.dollar’s to help pay for casey’s defence, could you see georges face if he read something like this on a shirt
Would it be against the law? no, because you would not be using there name’s!What do you think!
You have to wonder what it’s like in the Ant house daily… do they stay in or go out about their business? Is there tension there, what do they talk about? Such an odd group, it’s morbidly fascinating…
do they go in Caylee’s room and cry?
Wouldn’t be surprised if caylees room is now the office for new biz.
he says Lee possibly tipped off D. Casey about body in woods. based on lees blunder very early on about seeing tape when it had not been released yet.
I think she is INNOCENT! It’s amazing how everyone can convict someone without all the facts. Typical media followers. Someday you all will be judged.
And get this.. D Casey failed to show up for Depo toady, and has since hired a criminal attorney to represent him.
TZ you are allowed your opinion as we are ours. we won’t condemn you for yours, allow us the same
TZ (2;10) WHO ARE YOU? If you think she is innocent then what are you doing here? Go get a job and help pay defence, you will also be judged for taking up for a kr!
CMA –I WILL NEVER TELL!
TZ said,in March 26th, 2009 at 2:07 pm I think she is INNOCENT! It’s amazing how everyone can convict someone without all the facts. Typical media followers. Someday you all will be judged.
you might want to head on over to Thinkerbell’s blog where they think like you.
I’m curious on how you think she’s innocent…
of coarse someone stirs the pot when it’s almost time for me to go… If i don’t get back on everyone stay safe…
innocent people dont lie!!!
I think we had a hit and run… Some candya$$ comes spewing word vomit then bolts so they don’t have to take the beating… jackass!
time to go! bye!
bmore @10:26 i think some sort of “real” foundation would be a good thing also like the other poster who said about helping young mothers, so something like this doesnt happen again…about m killing caylee to “save” her, she probably convinced herself this was the right thing to do, so she could go thru with it…what a better excuse i killed my child so my mother couldnt raise her like she did me!!! and as much as i hate the ants c tried to believe her daughters every word, not something i would do..but maybe c thought there would be less friction that way, easier to go along with the stories than cause a sene, and seeing her episode i jail(wich was probably tame) i could immagine how shed really be!
TZ - I doubt you have all the facts either (unless you’re responsible for Caylee’s disappearance) but for some reason you say you think she’s innocent. Please tell us why! I’m all ears! Or eyes I guess. Really! I’d like to know!
m2c i think it was a post and run!:)
I think so too anna. I just thought I’d invite him or her to explain their point of view. But I don’t think hit and runners CAN explain. They just like being contrary.
*Private investigator Dominic Casey canceled his deposition, and for that, he could face contempt charges. I hope John Morgan nails him!!!
I think what the judge said after the hearing yesterday was that he was “tired of this.” “This” being the bickering between Hosebag and the prosecution which is always started by Hosebag. So I am hoping for a contempt or similar charge against Hosebag soon! He is anything BUT professional.
BEAST exactly my thoughts. Caylee’s room is probably their office now for their NEW CORPORATION.
AND they are probably deducting it too - on their Income Tax (1/6th of the space/house for business?)
PLUS deducting the cost of buying the new furniture, desks, etc.
George is probably the V.P. of their new ‘conglomerate’ (Replacing Casey who was ONCE the BOSS of EVERYTHING)!
I will never forget when he told KC back in the infamous August jail video -”Think of it like this … You are the head of this big conglomerate … you have the Sheriff working for you, L.E. working for you … your mother and me working for you, Lee, and your lawyer is working for you, everybody is working for YOU, YOU are the BOSS!”
SO HOW COME THE BOSS SITS IN JAIL? HOW NUTS IS G? Many of her *employees* are working to CONVICT her George!! Maybe all the ants should be locked up and off the streets. I think they are dangerous!!
Lorim @ 12:26 THANK YOU! I knew I’d seen it. Someone must have posted it here or referred us to that site. I don’t know what to make of that site -whether it’s legit or garbage.
If IT doesn’t get first degree murder, what would be the next one down? Do you think they are/will spinning the “accident card”? Probably will because it probably will be a lesser sentence than first degree murder.
Anybody know what that would be?
What is the next one below that one?
I am sure he will FIGHT HARD to try to see to it that IT doesn’t get 1st degree murder! He might marry her (yet live with another woman), if he is smitten by her “charms”. So she would service him … her husband when he came there.
Somehow she never looks quite clean these days does she??
Has Bozo and his wife broken up??
heart - Interesting that you say that. I think XO and I have always thought Maggot never looked “quite” clean. Something about her that is NOW aggravated by what I assume is jail soap. Or guilt. Not sure which.
heart - I don’t think Bozo will have anything to do with her after the trial whether they win or lose. I suppose if by any God Forbid! chance she gets off they might make some big money TV interview tours. Then that would be that. He’s THAT big a sleaze in my book.
Heart - Lorim’s post of 12:23:
- First degree murder
- One count aggravated child abuse
- One count aggravated manslaughter of a child
- Four counts of providing false info to a law enforcement officer
They will go right down the row and state “guilty” or “not guilty”
heart@m2c..i think its the guilt that makes her look dirty….:) so no news on haleigh huh?? was looking around for some, that really bothers me,jr said he woke up cuz the mans shoes squeeked and the couch was squeeking,i suppose jr stayed in bed and haleigh got up so he took her so she wouldnt say anything..ron could have approved of misty banging the dope dealer if they got some drugs out of it, its a pretty common thing in the drug world…sick as it sounds!
i hope bb gets a contempt charge or something simmalar soon to, maybe it would wipe that smirk off his fat face!!!
m2c thats why i cant wait till shes convicted and sent to prison, her “dream team” isnt gonna come visit her…shel be alone, unless they do some sort of appeals, and i dont think bozo will get special privleges in the prison like he has with the jail…i for one can hardly wait, i will be celebrating that day!!!!
and if by some slim chance she gets off, i dont expect her life to be easy on the outside, someone somwhere will be really mad enough to do something, she’l have to hire a 24hr body guard….tmo!
anna @ 3:20 Oh I hope and pray not! I could not stand another second of skank strutting her stuff thinking she’s so important having a body guard. I’d bet actual money ( 50 cents - that’s as high as I ever go!) that those days were the highlight of her narcissistic life!
Sorry anna I meant 3:28.
Heart @ 3:10 The defense might spin the “accident card” but I’m not sure how that would work - in two ways. First Bozo is claiming she is “innocent” which sounds like she had nothing to do with it. Or I suppose - to an idiot like him - it could mean that she is innocent of First Degree Murder but guilty of killing her by accident (which might rate a lesser charge but IS NOT what the state is charging her with so far. I think sometimes the state or judge gives the jury another lesser charge to choose from. Don’t know how that works. But so far the state seems happy with First Degree - and I am too!
NO way that a jury will come back NOT guilty…NO WAY…with all that we know …and all that we still don’t know!!!!
COME NO GUYS…KEEP THE FAITH!
CA - I’ve got FAITH! Maybe we should find a way to email some supportive thoughts to Mr. Ashton. And let him know that no matter what he thinks of Bozo we think worse of him!!!
And that Bozo could never say or do anything to change our minds! (Or whatever you want to say) Anyone got an email address?
no WAY SHE will get a lesser charge then first degree murder…THE GJ INDICTED HER IN 3 HOURS…The state, felt they had enough even before the body was found to charge her with FIRST DEGREE MURDER…they wouldn’t do that..that’s the highest charge you can get, if they didn’t already feel they had enough…so for her to walk free…HIGHLY UNLIKELY! LIKE ZERO!
MTC - That is great idea…maybe we can get someone to write an ARTICLE and we can all sign it with our screen names and from BNN…
i think it is a wonderful gesture!
HE WILL SEE IT…HE’LL BE IN GOOGLE..WE CAN NAME ALL THE STATES ATTORNEYS…JUST PUT IT ALL IN AN ARTICLE…THEN THE WHOLE WORLD WILL SEE IT INCLUDING MR. ASHTON AND LINDA DRANE!
the composer of the article can put in all the names at the bottom from those of us who want it printed…done by one person…read by millions!
Within the next couple of months, with all the unfolding evidence against KC the prosecution might just very well put the Death Penalty back on the table….Hoser is a huge looser and an idiot to boot! His little display only shows how inexperienced he truly is.
On HLN in a few minutes, Ron’s lawyer, Crystal’s lawyer, etc.
Coming up at 2:00PM PST.
1 877 TELL HLN - phone #
I wish they would put the DP back on the table. Maybe then she would plead down to life without parole to save her skank behind.
devans, I agree….something needs to shake these pathetic excuses of human beings up! They all act like its a joke.
3:24 ANNA Ha .. Smirk on his FAT RAT FACE!
TZ I too would like some facts/ foundation on which you base your INNOCENCE theory. Notice, WE give reasons … don’t just wake up one day and say …
“Oooo I FEEL she is innocent.” No logic, no reasons come first, just — feelings.
You are one of those who just can’t “get” Forensic evidence”? Too sophisticated for you, is it? There are are people like that out there.
I just saw the early video of Ron and Misty walking, smoking. There is this guy, huge, with an orange shirt behind them. Is that Greg? Heard something about that, somewhere else. Get Google Alerts.
I bet bozo would still push it all the way though cause he’s a FOOL.
Cap thanks.
I think I meant the big charges.
Murder 1
Murder 2
Manslaughter
Agrivated… something???
I don’t exactly know how it all goes.
Thanks Cap.
SPACELY … YES! ha ha all those smirks look exactly the same.
Very astute you are! Sharp bunch here!!!!
Cut from the same cloth? I think so, all of them.
Called getting over, and try and get me if you can BIG lawyer?
3:22 ANNA Oh God such FILTH! Sell your WIFE or girl for drugs? I thought I heard that Ron knew about his being over there … former boyfriend? Nice. When they are on drugs I guess anything could and DOES happen, even more than planned. GOD HELP THE CHILDREN!
Yes KC does look skanky and dirty even tho she tries to play the part of a soccer mom, as Nancy called her in her latest “costume”.
I notice some specific things, but won’t put it on here to educate them.
Maybe we should be mindful of that. What we say on here is being read by them as well as Nancy G. and Jane I guess. We don’t want to HELP them. Sean reminded me of that when I called once and talked on the Radio Show. Are they on http://www.youtube.com?
C~A, PICKS whoever said … I never got any email addresses… ?
to mytwocents….The dogs are doing fine except my new puppy killed my rooster. I was unable to save the poor rooster, I tried.
Oh well.
I hope you were able to see the Hoover video…very fishy in my opinion.
Rushing to go where? Dentist this time. What a social life!!
Found some things -
1st degree murder - planned
2nd degree murder - degree of malice, nothing planned beforehand,
no deliberation
Manslaughter w/o malice or intent to do harm- heat of passion
Involuntary Manslaughter - negligent behavior, drunk driving, etc.
Justifiable and excusable Homicide Self defense, confronted armed robber, etc.
bbl
Saluki! Glad your dogs are doing well. I am so sorry about your poor rooster! But I know you don’t blame doggie. They can’t help following their natural instincts. It’s funny that my big dog (passed away - I still miss him) seemed to love all animals at least the ones he had a chance to “meet.” He never met a rooster, though, and he sure did like cooked chicken so I don’t know what would have happened. But he never went after birds or squirrels or cats. Oh he did bark ferociously at foxes though. But I thought that was pretty smart.
One time we were walking along in the woods and startled a deer just a few feet away behind some trees and shrubs - all three of us jumped back and ran the other way! LOL!
heart - Most of us don’t need others’ addresses. We talk right here!
On U Tube there is only 11 parts with the Hoover depo…. it doesn’t get into the nitty gritty. I don’t have time to read the written part, and don’t know where to find any more.
It was interesting to hear Hoover say C was outside talking to Dominic. Also he hinted about taking a picture from his window. What was that all about?
My eyeballs are falling out. I just read the Jim Hoover subpoena. He said a lot without really saying too much.
He respects P.I.’s (Dominic Casey) rights to not devulge where he got the tip to go to Suburban Drive. So he didn’t pressure him.
Earlier one of you said Dominic C. isn’t going to show up for his subpoena today. The Ants, Monster, Dominic - they all just get to pick and choose what THEY will do and WHEN and law enforcement be damned!
One good thing about the Caylee Foundation and boats, etc. - George can’t claim he too under stress anymore.
The part about eating hor’s doevres (sp?) at the Ritz got me laughing.
ABC News paid for the whole thing.
I wonder if ABC got their monies worth?
That;s fine MTC - some of us like to share emails of jokes and poems and stuff that wouldn’t prob be appreciated here!
Heart …I emailed Jan and asked her to email a list of you who were interested my email address. Maybe she missed it? She’ll get around to it possibly when she has time!
I don’t know about ABC but the Ants haven’t yet! Money grubbin hogs…they say people are relating to them..what a bunch of bullcrap
New Motion Filed in
Zenaida Gonzalez vs.
Casey Anthony
Thursday, 26 Mar 2009, 6:16 PM EDT
- When written questions known as “written interrogatories” were sent to Casey Anthony to answer from her jail cell, questions about Zenaida Gonzalez, she didn’t’ say much. In fact she answered one question, her name Casey Anthony. Then at her attorney’s advice, she invoked her 5th amendment right.
Gonzalez’s attorneys didn’t like that. So, so they filed a motion asking the judge to make her answer certain questions. Now, Casey Anthony is fighting that request. Her attorney, Jonathan Kasen, filed this motion for protective order. Local defense attorney, Diana Tennis thinks the defense’s motion was a smart move. I” think it would be very unusual for a judge to make a criminal defendant answer this type of question until a criminal case is done. So I think they’ll probably get the protective order,” said Tennis.
Tennis thinks the plaintiff has a weak case to begin with. Casey Anthony told investigators a nanny by the name of Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez stole her daughter Caylee. The woman who is suing is just “Zenaida Gonzalez.” FOX 35 asked Tennis the relevance of that. “Depending on how important you find your middle name. I think it makes a big difference. It’s a totally different name and they’ve said from the beginning it’s not the same person,” said Tenis.
In the Defense’s Motion for Protective Order in Response to the Plaintiff’s Motion to Compel Previously Propounded Interrogatory Answers, Casey Anthony’s attorney says every question Gonzalez’s attorneys ask is “inextricably intertwined” with the criminal case against his client. Kasen has called this a frivolous lawsuit in the past, and Tennis agrees. “At some point I think this case is going to get thrown out, the civil case that is,” said Tennis.
Zenaida Gonzalez’s attorneys at the Morgan and Morgan law firm did not return our calls today. We may not know how this will play out until May. That’s when the next scheduled hearing is in the civil case.
WESH explains Cindy’s new low profile
posted…
Why has Cindy Anthony, mother of Casey Anthony, shut up?
“For now, she’s silent Cindy, in the background,” WESH-Channel 2’s Bob Kealing says.
The crucial insight came from Brad Conway, attorney for George and Cindy Anthony. Conway told WESH that she was hurt deeply by the recently revealed words of her own mother, Shirley Plesea, to law enforcement. Plesea had said that Casey may have hated Cindy more than the young mother loved her own daughter, Caylee. Casey is charged with the first-degree murder of Caylee.
Kealing also swung into analytical mode and said that Cindy won’t be able to stay quiet for long. The reason?
Criminal defense expert Richard Hornsby speculated that the state will use Casey’s anger at Cindy as a motive for murder.
“Down the road, the state’s theory of motive will push her [Cindy] back into the spotlight, and not in a good way,” Kealing concluded.
WESH also provided these updates: On April 9, George and Cindy Anthony will be deposed in the Zenaida Gonzalez defamation suit against Casey Anthony.
Lorim - I know we have made a lot of comments about George and Cindy doing things we have considered totally unacceptable. Using Caylee to make $$ gain and supporting and lying for Monster.
But, can you imagine if M’s trial centered on her anger and hatred for her mother as a motive for murder? I just felt shell-shocked when I read that.
As a juror, this would not “win” me over at all to the defense side.
Every few weeks, they focus on something or someone else.
All I know is, all the players in this despicable, disgusting story need to be thrown in jail!!! (EVERY SINGLE LAST ONE OF THEM!!) It is so disheartening to see how easily the justice system bends for this trash. I am holding my faith in God to bring Justice for Caylee…including EVERYONE involved in cover-ups and obstruction!!!!!!
I’m sorry…sometime my blood just gets to boiling over this case….Poor little Caylee….Bless her little defenseless soul.
:( 
I respect your anger!
STAY ANGRY for Caylee, Haleigh and all the other abused and missing children.
♥♥Thank you Capy♥♥♥ I’m glad you are here♥♥♥ Sometimes it gets pretty hard to understand.
Lorim @6:35
Couldn’t have said it better if I tried!! Maybe the Ants. did not do the acutal killing but they need to be charged and thrown in jail for the reasons you said to send a message to everyone that the law will hold anyone accountable that hinders the investigations.
And Capy, if they (defense) uses the defense that Kcee hated Cindy more than she loved Caylee, I would not be surprised, since I believe it to be the truth.
I also believe in my heart that Caylee was killed the night of 6/15, after leaving the Ant. house after the fight and not the next day 6/16. I’ve always felt that way. Guess we’ll never know for sure. But Geo. was lying about seeing kcee and Caylee the next day. IMO
Lorim - I don’t know if it was you that commented on a similar theory about Haleigh, I found this during my morning google (ha)
The particular lifestyle that we believe is led by Misty and Ronald Cummings is one that essentially laid out the red carpet to something at some point happening to these children, and something did,” Kim Picazio, an attorney for Crystal Sheffield, said in an interview Wednesday with MyFOXOrlando.com.
She said the Cummings lead “your typical sex, drugs and rock-and-roll life style that is not conducive to raising children.”
Meanwhile, the Florida Department of Children and Families is investigating instances of abuse and neglect at the Cummings household, according to MyFOXOrlando.com.
mb - yes, Caylee was killed 6/15, without a doubt. This is by her own admission. There is always a “little truth” in what she says.
“I haven’t seen Caylee for 31 days” that puts it on the 15th.
I believe it is 50/50. Hatred of Cindy and wanting freedom. She wanted sooooo badly to go to Puerto Rico with her friends and I think this started her anger really percolating.
There is NO DEFENSE for maggot.
It’s sad that we have to resort to anger to get to the truth, and Justice. But more and more it seems to be the case, with the criminals using the “system” get off or a slap on the wrist. Crime against children is on the rise. Why? Is it more, or we just hear about it more?
nancy grace on now.
Beast… not sure with communications now … we are hearing about more?
BUT they have their sites and help each other and mabye teach …
newbies??
Disgusting!
chimos have their own websites?
So I’ve heard …. exchange pictures, educate each other on how to win over children.
But, I am not going to google any of that garbage to substantiate this. Not as many times as I take my computer to Data Doctors - ha.
Bad enough I have searched ‘recipe for chloroform’ ‘neck-breaking’ 10th episode of Tree Hill. I imagine we all have!
Capy…hahahaha..I haven’t googled those “searches” for that exact reason!!
Well now, that just aint right. Last I checked that child pornography and sex with minors was illegal EVERYWHERE! SO any website that promotes or educates on “how to” should be illegal as well. Sounds like I may have a chore to do tomorrow
Beast - a little humor. I bet we all have dirty hard drives now. Probably searched for things we never would have before Monster case.
Even today I was searching for prostitution, casey anthony, because someone said a ‘john’ had paid her $500 per night sometime in June. Couldn’t find that story. I believe it though; she blew through amy’s $700 pretty quickly and needed money (Universal wasn’t paying well enough).
Beast…”Sounds like I may have a chore to do tomorrow”. I wish, no PRAY, that someone would do something about the availability of such information on websites!! And music recordings,etc. I’m not in favor of full non-censorship!
Capy…Hmm..I wonder if it was through an agency or just word of mouth. I would guess Agencu cause she would want to keep it quiet. IN Classifieds there must be thousands of those “escorts” and “adult” services.
OK - do you remember NAMBLA? North America Man-Boy Love Association.
I guess they were hitting the Internet pretty heavy and the FBI got to following them and they have cooled it. I know because I googled NAMBLA and read this.
Same here Capy..I too have heard there a pervo sites like that. Discussing but I won’t go there to validate.
To me alot of this falls on the laws. If the laws were stricter and wouldn’t allow for so many loop holes, alot could be nipped in the bud. It is the lack of LAW and consistencies in it, that have allowed these cases to be stretched into such vivacious sensationalism.
If the law was a bit tighter on anyone having anything to do with the death, assault, rape, abuse, or neglect of a child no matter what their involvement. We might be able to alleviate all this back in forth BS and put the criminals behind bars before they become famous and collect on their crimes!
Capy, Boy, I bet the computer doctors say:
Well, Would you all just look at what Ms. Capy is looking at??? And she seemed like sugh a sweet lady!! LOL
Beast - those were some of M’s searches “escort services”. But, it wouldn’t be too hard to hook up with prostitution if you are going to skanking around all night. There’s a difference in partying and acting like a whur.
Lorim, we have plenty of laws on the books, we just don’t carry them out. Or people get lawyered up. Look at the DUI lawyers that advertise on TV.
Whatever happened to truancy laws and statutory rape?
Casey’s Friend’s Interview Could Be Damaging
Huizenga Says Casey Was Partying, Carefree When Caylee Was Missing
March 26, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. — Fresh from his court victory Wednesday, Jose Baez, Casey Anthony’s attorney, told WESH 2 Thursday that he’s planning to take a number of key depositions next week. At the top of that list is Casey Anthony’s friend, Amy Huizenga.
Casey Anthony is the mother of Caylee Anthony. Caylee’s remains were found in a wooded area off of Suburban Drive near the Anthony family home in December. Anthony is in the Orange County Jail, charged with murder in her daughter’s death.
Huizenga has provided details about Casey Anthony’s attempts to explain that smell in her car, and Anthony’s apparently carefree, party lifestyle at the same time she told investigators she was out looking for Caylee on her own.
During the weeks after Caylee Anthony was last seen and before she was reported missing to police, Anthony often confided in Huizenga.
In an audio taped interview, Huizenga gave details of what investigators believe was Anthony’s cover story to explain that terrible smell in her car.
On June 27, around the time investigators believe Anthony dumped Caylee’s body, she sent a text message to Huizenga saying what the smell was a dead animal.
The first week of July, Anthony stayed with Huizenga, getting a tattoo, always having an explanation for why Caylee wasn’t there and going out partying. Only one family issue made her visibly upset.
“She got upset, saying her brother was coming to look for her and they had to leave,” Huizenga said.
Huizenga said Cindy Anthony confronted her daughter about her partying — a feud that prosecutors believe was Casey Anthony’s motive for murder.
“She thought Casey was an unfit mother and she would sue for custody of Caylee if it got to that,” Huizenga said.
Baez said he also plans to finish deposing Richard Cane. He’s the Orange County deputy who may have missed a chance to discover Caylee’s remains in August.
Meanwhile, a private investigator who at one time did volunteer security work for the Anthony family said ABC News paid $225,000 to Anthony’s defense fund in exchange for pictures and video of Caylee.
That revelation came Wednesday during an interview with James Hoover, a private investigator who did security work at the Anthony home. Hoover gave a sworn deposition in the Zenaida Gonzalez civil suit. Attorney John Morgan asked the questions.
Gonzalez is suing Anthony for defamation. She said her good name was ruined when Anthony named her as the nanny who kidnapped Caylee.
Feuds Between Casey, Cindy May Become Key For Prosecution
This week, Cindy and George Anthony, grandparents of slain toddler Caylee Anthony, have been back in the public eye supporting their daughter in court and talking about their new foundation.
But unlike the Cindy Anthony we came to know last year during Caylee’s disappearance, she’s chosen to stay silent and in the background.
Gone are the days of Cindy Anthony’s shouting matches with protesters outside their East Orange County home. Now her feuds with her daughter, who is in the Orange County jail charged with murder in Caylee’s death, are taking on far greater importance.
George and Cindy Anthony this week unveiled a new search boat, the Caylee Marie. The boat is just one resource to be offered by their new foundation that George Anthony told the media about.
‘”When you lose a child, you need all the resources you can get. If it takes me to bring awareness I’m going to do that,” he said.
Off camera, Cindy Anthony said she’d be doing the administrative duties.
The couple’s lawyer, Brad Conway, talked about how difficult it was for Cindy Anthony to hear her own mother’s words to law enforcement revealed just last week. Shirley Plesea speculated that Casey Anthony may have hated Cindy more than she loved Caylee.
This is all personal life. Many families go through these things, having their personal life exposed to the world is difficult,” Cindy Anthony said.
From the new evidence, criminal defense lawyer Richard Hornsby said the state will use Cindy Anthony’s battles with Casey Anthony over how to raise Caylee as the motive for her murder.
wow. I am so …I dont know…these freaks are planning there shit like planning a bank heist. Big article on Oprahs website…Just type pedophilia in the search window on her website
Message to Amy Huizenga:
Get yourself a lawyer. Answer question No. 1 -
Name __________ and then plead the 5th on all the rest.
Everyone else does!
Lorim and everyone who thoughtfully posts articles here. PLEASE site the source! Where did the article come from? Thank you.
Beast, - Mytwocents comment goes for YOU too!
I went to oprah’s site and put in pedophilia and a lot of websites re: Oprah & pedophiles popped up.
mtc…if the article doesn’t have its name within the text, copy the first sentence and do a Google search to find out the source
Capy..yes i read that. Im shocked. I’ll be doing some searching tomorrow. Would like to find out where to report shit too. Going under cover!
I have to go. Goodnight
PICKLES - I hope you are feeling better ♥
Nighty night Capy ♥
Night everyone….see ya in the morning.
Lorim - Some articles are copyrighted and I’m sure the author or publication would very much appreciate being given the appropriate credit.
As for copying, pasting and googling something you already did- except for the source -I won’t bother. If it’s not from a credible news source I’m not interested. And if it’s not worth it for the poster to copy and paste the source it’s not worth my time looking it up. Just won’t bother with the articles.
Please consider your words, George, shoved back down your mouth. You had the NERVE to say,”‘”When you lose a child, you need all the resources you can get. If it takes me to bring awareness I’m going to do that,”
So, George, WHY did you and Sindee object so cruelly to Tim Miller and hundreds of volunteers who searched for your granddaughter in water and swamps while you tooled around town in an air conditioned car? How dare you?
“Bring awareness?” You are the dimmest bulb of the bunch, you ass.
Sounds good to me m2c!
mtc, I will post the way I wish to, you post they way you wish to…no big deal
My first day of NOT have the pleasure of talking to MA PICKLES..
I hope your ok my friend!
To everyone else…I need to turn in now!
Good NIght
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE ~ PRAYERS FOR HALEIGH.
Night-Night C~A..don’t let the beast bite.
C-ya in the morning.
Lorim - I thought I was merely asking a small courtesy for me and for the source but if that surpasses your capabilities - so sorry to have troubled you.
mtc…so sorry to give you information on finding articles and there resources. I make sure that my postings of articles have their resources. (I am sure sometimes I miss a few) The tip on Googling the first sentence are for those articles that fall short of their source. It was just a suggestion on a way to find the source is all. Sorry to bother you with un-needed information.
mtc..in the future all if I post an article that IU have missed naming it’s source, all you have to do is ask me and I will be glad to tell you.
MTC and LORIM — please make nice
BEAST I had heard it was Pedophile sites. They help each other and share information as to HOW to get children. And in order to get on them, you have to SEND pictures of children … doing things …? PROVE you are legit?? That way they can be sure you are not a Detective and are real?
But wouldn’t Detectives have some of those pictures in their files???
I just don’t know …
MTC Hi!
I guess when a discussion is going on, and I think of something further, that could stand “fixing” with KC, I just don’t want to put it on this blog for THEM to read. Educate them. Yet I guess I want to share the information with one of us, I guess, off blog.
BEAST I read an article somewhere, years ago (never did any searches) and it said things like this:
Check the local newspapers, dance recitals, beauty contests. Will usually be pretty ones. Get the names of the family member too, it can help with the phone calls. “Hi is Mr. …… home. NO? Well, Bobby, is this you? I’m a friend of your Dads. When will he be home so I can talk to him or your Mom?” Then they can go to the house and try to get in, etc. The more information they get from the local articles, the easier it will be for them.
I do cringe everytime I see a childs picture in the paper, especially good looking ones, won a contest at the Fair, won an Art Contest, Spelling B, etc. (They like good looking ones!)
This was in my family … an IN law.
Good news! Detectives are ALWAYS infiltrating those sites. That’s why they are making it DIFFICULT to get on them. Then they set up MEETINGS where the creep thinks he is meeting someone’s son, or daughter, and they ARREST HIM. A STING!!! Don’t worry BEAST!
LORIM don’t get upset. MTC has always helped me with lots of stuff - every time I ask for help. Some other do too. For instance, when I get on things from Google Alert, I think it is, I don’t know WHERE the HE*L I wind up, or what it IS, or how I got there, or how I can tell someone else when I got it, when I don’t know where I am/was? I am computer illiterate I think. I know!!
I have often thought that MTC must be a good TEACHER. She spells things out for me, which is what I need. I buy books, but they THINK I know more than I know … and they START THERE. I was going to take a class, got Lyme Disease back home, starting emailing, searches, and never got around to it.
Please my 2 honey lambs … all is cool. I am positive no harm was meant here. The FAMILY never does that to each other, only those moronic drive bys do. Look at our nerves. First Caylee, then found dead, then Haleigh, and now more drugs involved just like with Caylee.
I know I am frazzled myself here with these babies gone, killed, and BOZO’s FILTHY tricks. How like him to GRANDSTAND at the Hearing, asking the JUDGE to **INSTRUCT** this seasoned older fine Prosecutor as to how to ACT. (THIS PIG KNOWS???) Then when Bozo or one of his cronies, decides the time is right, THEY will DO THE DIRTY DEED and LEAK ALL!!! THEN probably call for a HEARING ABOUT IT - when HE DID IT HIMSELF!!!! How filthy and low rent he is! He has the I.Q. and the E.Q. (emotional quotient) of a 13 year old! Charming for a middle aged man. I love his triple chins. KC is growing another one too.
‘nite my cyber family <3
BEAST 8:11
“Going under cover….”
Is this more than we need to know BEAST? When?
Is it ok with C~A?
LOL
Drive by … I must be tired!!
Now … ‘nite x
TORI 5:08
PUTTIN ON THE RITZ … the little ants. They weren’t fooling anyone.
I used to do that tune. People liked it!
oh heart i just love you how are you , im driving by cause its late, hope everything is ok for you. i haavent got any emails, dont know whats going on with that? anybody can email me when ever jan has just ask her for it i have 3 of them lol dont ask its a long story lol… i keep missing everyone dang….. its those litte tunes of yours lol love it!!!!
pickles i hope you feel better soon.
goodnite my bnn freinds…
linda3/26@12:21, if only they could think about caylee’s feelings and hear her words now wonder if they would behave the way they are, im also wondering if c&g are just making apperances at m court dates at bb request to make m look better?? i bet m has given them so much shit making them feel responsible for what she did to caylee toped with th eguilt they probably allready had for letting m take her that ay….who really knows with these people…i wonder this stuff then think about the boat&atv…hmmm…
jill from down under..you here??? your usually the late one hello you here??
mb3/26@8:55pm , ive always had a problem with g rembering everything caylee was wearing when she supposidly left on the 16th…down to the white rimmed sunglasses, who can rember all that a month later?? i dont even rember half the time what my childs wearing that day much less a month ago!!
beast..ive also heard thoes pervs use modeling emails to get kids info also what heart said @ 12:39 they hang out at sporting events and anyother event that involves children, often unnoticed…any info you might uncover i hope you will shar with us..ive learned so may things from our bnn family, any more info on keeping our children safe is always needed…thanks~Anna
hey c~A beat you up this am….couldnt sleep morning
Good Morning early birdies..
Wonder where our Jill is?? Site went down last night so maybe she couldn’t connect.
C~A..Time to get up and get those 72 kids to school!! Grab your coffee and scoot!
this is probably way late but thay didnt find any parts of squirrel in or on m’s car, for it to be the smell there would have to be some left for the smell to be thet strong also how does squirrel being on the outside(supposidly) make the inside smell so bad??
morning mb..yea finally someone here:)
COFFIE’S MADE!!!!
Good morning everyone…
Hi Anna thanks for telling us about the eucalyptus trees in California..hope Pickles can try some of the oil to clear her sinus.
I spent most of this arvo watching the ~3 hours of the Jim Hoover depo…why Morgan thinks this has anything to do with the Zanny case is a mystery to me {mind you it gives us “fuel” for the real trial.}
Dom Casey didn’t show for his depo..he has hired a criminal atty…hmmmm methinks he has something to hide.
M2C..you said you posted an answer to one of my questions..but it got lost {even Jan looked for it - hi!}….could you please post again as I am really curious…pretty purrrrrlease.
Anna it is nearly 6:30pm on Friday here..it will be interesting to see what time this posts.
this site went down??? why???
jill its 4:25 am here im in minnesota!! brr cold here again 17% now
mb..I didn’t know the site was down..kept hitting the refresh button and nothing happened..guess I’ll live and learn - hi!
funny what a time diffrence huh?? its cool we can talk to people from all over..i think we have a bunch of special persons on our blog, it would be so awsome to meet in person one day..but for now blogging will do!
Anna..you are on the same time as this blog {I have always wondered in what state it originates???}…are you on Central Time???
i cant believe no new news on our haleigh! that really bothers me..maybee today!
Good Morning Anna
Kcee had to come up with something/anything to explain that smell but of course there was no squirrel. Even if there had been, the smell would not saturate the inside of the car like a dead body would. Have you ever run over a skunk?? Oh Geez, seems like I do it all the time!! It (smell) gets into the heat/air system and blows that smell into the car, but eventually fades away.
No, they never found any remminants of a squirrel on the frame of her car. Just another one of her dumbas# lies.
funny jill the blog time use to be diffrent from me a hr ahead…wonder how i got the same time now..maybee daylight savings…weird! i didnt even notice it till you said that hmm…..
mb, never ran over one but the dog got sprayed and had to ride home in the car….phew…we gave him a bath in tomato juice, it helped if i rember right!
Anna your probably right about daylight saving time…poooo…we loose ours this coming Sunday night so I shall have to learn all over again.
mb…♫good morning to you♫…thanks for forgiving me about the geography lesson..I truly read the question as “where is Australia”..I felt really
when the penny finally dropped.
Will keep fingers crossed that there is some news about Haleigh today..nothing much seems to happen on the weekend {except the BNN radio show.}
Anna, Your’re in MN?? (my sister and B-in law used to live in Eden Prairie until he retired and now in Fl. COuldn’t stand anymore snow shoveling!!).
Was listening to the weather channel this morning and they talked about the major flooding occuring there in MN. Are you near any of that?? Snow melting I think they said was causing major problems.
mb..not near the flooding, was looking to find the town its in, thankfull im not there..
Morning Jill, Uh that’s not right…Should say Good Evening Jill!
Yeah, I meant what city did you live in in Australia. LOL… I know you said you live 10 miles from Perth. I remember Perth as being the city that the actor (brokeback mountain) was cremated and scattered in. (too early for me to think of his name but you know who I’m talking about). So sad..so young.
My husband always wanted to travel to Australia. I hear it is beautiful!! He got sick last year (cancer) and died last Nov. so of course we never got to go.
im about a hr away from eden prarie..i had to look on a map to find out
mb….so sorry for your loss! wow not to long ago..will say prayers for you!
morning all, no new news at all, something has to happen soon.
Thanks Anna..I have good days and bad days with memories…but I’ll be O.K. Still seems so sureal to me most of the time.
♥mb♥..so sorry to hear about your hubby..cancer is soooo rotten!
Help someone…the actor.. who died from a drug overdose..name is on the tip of my tongue {brain all wishy washy from watching 3 hrs of Jim Hoover}…his ashes were scattered in Perth..watched it on TV..helllllllp!
Beast..Shake, rattle and roll your wife outta bed! Kids are waiting at the bus stop!!:)
Jill..Keith something??? Does that sound right??
Hey….That video of Hoover at the depo. He looked like he was either scared to death, getting ready to cry, or about to throw up!! He did NOT want to be there!!!
morning MB and ANNa …he actually did have to get me outta bed.. I’m too old for this ridiculous a.m rise!
Maybe that flooding is in N. Dakota, not MN. Too early for me to get anything straight. Brain is still asleep…………
Fargo…Red River.
mb i think they are evacuating fargo wich is near or in north dakota. sad watching people having to pack up, loosing all thier stuff at least they have thier lifes….its in red river valley..not sure how far from me but its far..
the actor who played the joker right??? now its gonna bug me till i rember its on the tip of my toung to..no wonder c~a wasnt here this am with me usually my time and blogs is a hr off except for noe…hmm..
AH HA KIETH LEDGER!!!!! YEA!!!
Jill…HEATH LEDGER… That’s his name. (Well, it sounded like Keith huh??!)
well i was almost right
mb
HEATH LEDGER…you were close with Keith..bin wracking my brain..it took a long time to surface through the old gray matter!
I wuz typing whilst you all remembered..guess great brains think alike - hi!
Jill, I had to google Brokeback Mountain movie cast to get his name. Can’t wait on recall cause my gray matter is too thick this morning.:)
was looking at party photos of m again, while i dont care about the party im thinking how much attention this girl needed, to post thoes on the net, for the world to see..kinda sad if you ask me! and poor caylee, if there was chloriform in her hair it would me a build up over time right??? so how many nights did that poor child spend in the teunk???? ALSO WONDER IF SHE SAID ANYTHING TO C&G MAYBEE IT DIDNT MAKE SENCE AT THE TIME BUT NOW IT WOULD!HMM…
sorry about caps…didnt mean to yell this early am oppps~
Gudonya mb..I never thought of doing that..see you are teaching me all sorts of new tricks - hi!
Morning C~A and Beast..C~A drive your precious cargo really carefully..I know you will ♥♥♥
i hate it when i wake up real early like this..then im no use all day walk around in kinda a fog…dont let me try and nap, the darn phone rings off the hook…its like they know when your trying to sleep…conspiracy !
Anna….When I nap, which is more often than I should, I take the phone off the hook. My sleep is more important than talking to a bill collector!!
Okay my l♥velies.. its time for me to pop back down the wabbit hole for zzzzzzz..nice chattin to y’all..cu 2morrow xxx
Nite Jill….Sleep well
nite jill, i always worry ill miss a important call from family or something, and the day i turn the ringer off i probably will:(
Morning, All!
Hi, Jill! I am sorry that I missed you. I think you asked yesterday if there was a mistrial would Maggot get out of jail? (This is the answer I wrote yesterday and accidentally erased somehow).
Let’s take another example. If a mistrial was granted because ALL or most of the evidence was ruled inadmissable then the state would not have enough grounds to charge the person a second time and the person could go free.
But if the mistrial was granted for some other reason, and the state still had enough evidence to warrant charging the person again, then the person might not even make it out of the courtroom after the mistrial. The prosecution could re-arrest them right there.
Then the whole ball game starts all over with bail to be decided by a judge etc (probably at a hearing another time).
m2c what a scarry thought…i dont know if we could handle another trial…
anna - Exactly. And that’s why it was so important and terrific that the state looked into that situation right now. At least it eliminates one way Maggot could try for a mistrial later on.
What irks me no end is that some of the news outlets are calling that hearing a victory for the defense. They are SO stupid. It was never about making the source of the money public - that would have been done privately anyway just to the judge - it was about making Maggot decide NOW that there is no conflict of interest on Bozo’s part so she can’t claim it later.
Sometimes the news agencies get it wrong and that’s really bad because it means a lot of people get the wrong idea and their opinion could depend on it.
MTC..That’s right!! I didn’t see it as a victory either unless you see it as a victory for the prosecution! One means of a mistrial out of the way. Hooray for the prosecution team!!
The question still remains where is the money coming from to pay for all these lawyers? Is it the $225,000 that ABC paid? For 8 lawyers (and counting) that will only last so long.
Beast..That $225,000 is long gone by now. That’s a drop in the bucket for what this scheme team costs. I have no idea where the money is coming from. More pictures being sold??? I don’t know.
Maybe the Ants. got an advance on film/book deals. Then funnel the money to Bozo. ?????
mb - That’s my guess. And/or the ever-present “anonymous” donor. My impression was that Bozo was REALLY nervous at the beginning of that hearing. I think he was afraid that the judge would force him to reveal the sources of all the money. I don’t know what happened behind closed doors but I think the judge did not ask for those specifics but somehow decided that no matter what the sources were, that Maggot agreed that Bozo had no conflict of interest.
Bozo was too cocky after the hearing - acting like he “won” something. BS I think it’s because he did not have to reveal the sources and he’s glad because if he had the money would either go away or the info would enrage the public.
Personally I would not be at all surprised if a major news/media organization was paying the defense. This country hasn’t had a major trial since when? OJ really. Or the Menendez brothers. Or that woman who cut off her husband’s you know what (Mrs. Baez, if you can find it, have it!!! LOL!)
Specter wasn’t that riveting or Blake.
But with a big defense team and murdered child this trial is headed for major TV coverage (in addition to what it’s getting now) and who benefits from that? Tell me, who? The ONLY beneficiaries are the media (viewers=ratings=advertisers=$$$$$).
MTC…Oh, how could you forget LORENA BOBBITT! LOL!!! She’s my HERO!!
I can’t even LOOK at Phil Specter. Seriously. He’s an ugly weasel. Talk about attitude!! I’d like to smack him in the face with a 2×4.
Last I heard, the jury was deliberating. Am I remembering that right. Has there been a decision in his case?
I vote GUILTY. Throw his ugly weasel ass in prison!!
mb - Because I have a sieve where my memory should be! LOL! Thank heaven for people like you who can remind me!! That’s right! Lorena Bobbit! If Mrs Baez has a magnifying glass handy (to find the target), she could follow Lorena’s example! LOL!
We should check the news today on Specter because I think the jury should have decided by now or will soon. “Ugly weasel” is the perfect description of his appearance and what I know of his personal life.
I’m posting the short article below for two reasons. One is a giggle at Maggot’s Big Spenders! The other - check out wftv.com’s MATH. I’m sure it’s a typo but an example of the number of ways the news orgs don’t get things right!
From wftv.com (yesterday)
“CALIFORNIA MAN KEEPS SENDING CASEY MONEY
The same stranger seems to be looking out for Casey in jail. Since mid-January, a San Diego man named Michael Kelley has sent Casey nearly a dozen checks at $25 each. He sent his latest check on Tuesday.
That combined with checks from two other people, from California and Arizona, means Casey has received a total of $55.
Casey spent nearly $60, on toiletries and snacks, this week.”
i think c&g are helping with the defence, selling caylee’s pitcures and vidios, and possibly c might have sighned a book deal and are giving that money to m defence, i find it hard to believe anyone would donate 30,000 to kid losers or the ants for any reason, unless like you said a news station for the exclusives…like i say i cant wait for a conviction…thats the party day!!!! all here on the blog with mbi or champaine, or whatever you like celebrating with!!!
Hi, anna! In my opinion that $30,000 is different. It was donated to the ants (CMA Foundation) by the Never Lose Hope Foundation which is in cahoots somehow with Kidlosers which has had its hooks (specifically pedophile-looking/cop impersonator -it’s true! Milstead) into George since the beginning. I think it’s some kind of scheme with the three organizations so they all make $. NLH and Kidlosers thinks George (meaning Caylee) is their meal ticket.
Dame them all to hell.
This is not the first time that Never Lose Hope FOundation gave the ants money. They did early in the case but for the life of me can’t remember what they bought. I think they may have paid for Nejame at first. Or they paid for a trip the ants took. Something that was totally inappropriate at the time and for that supposedly non-profit organization to do.
I did some research and the Never Lose Hope Foundation DID pay for the ants to hire a criminal attorney (Nejame). How can a supposed non-profit charitable organization do that?
AND it was exactly at the time that Sindee was claiming that Caylee was in Puerto Rico somewhere which made me want to ask: What’s more important? Using the money to hire a CRIMINAL attorney for yourself? or using it to hire a legit PI or someone to go to PR to check it out (or some other useful activity).
But no. As far as the Ants are concerned they have been more important than Caylee since June 16.
here is the reply I got this morning
Hi -
Thank you for your email to Cybertip.ca and your interest in
volunteering in this area. Cybertip.ca appreciates your willingness to
support our work. Unfortunately, Cybertip.ca does not utilize
volunteers within the Cybertip.ca program area. If you are interested
in volunteering with the Canadian Centre for Child Protection, please
visit http://www.protectchildren.ca and/or
http://protectchildren.ca/app/en/howtohelp.
Please note, Cybertip.ca does not advise individuals from the Canadian
public to pose as underage individuals in order to ‘catch’ potential
predators. There is a possibility of jeopardizing a police
investigation through this type of activity. Undercover investigating
should be left in law enforcements hands as there are laws pertaining to
how information is collected during an investigation.
Please be aware that Cybertip.ca does not encourage or authorize anyone
to search for, or otherwise seek out, child pornography content. This
includes accessing content which you believe may contain child
pornography. Actively searching for and/or accessing online child
pornography is a crime in Canada.
Should you inadvertently come across content on the internet related to
the online sexual exploitation of children, a report can be made to
Cybertip.ca using our online report form located at
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If you would like to volunteer your time in the area child protection,
please contact your provincial Child Find office or a local children’s
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Everyday that goes by I just more and more frustrated with people just volunteering their time and money to this case.
Does eveyone on earth want their 15 minutes on TV? I’m just not getting it. All leads point in one direction. Why is this a big deal? I’m aware that the biotch lied over and over. But most killer that think they can get away with murder usaully do.
My beef that this whole thing is that people are sending money to this scumbags. M is sitting in a concrete hotel room for petes sake with all the accommodation of a celebrity.
I truely don’t think that it is fair to say that if you kill someone and get media coverage that you are privilege enough to be segregated from the rest of your kind.
I get the whole protection thing but IMO, don’t do the crime if you can’t do the time.
And I’m aware of the constitution and the rights that one has till proven guilty, BLAH BLAH BLAH! BUt we had an indictment passed and no bond is set for her release. To me, that means sit with other behind bars and wait for your big day. Biotch!
off topic..but funny…my dog is in heat, i wasnt to familiar with female dogs and heat..saw blod spots on pillows and stuff. did someinvestagating on pc and figured it out, well my poor dog is now clothed in a training pant with pad, her little face is like “what are you doing to me now” she has big ears like gremlin’s and shes so small, i dont think shes a happy camper right now, but she looks cute, everytime i look at her i laugh….learn something new everyday
That’s funny Anna, I had to do that to one of my dogs before…
Looking over some details of this case. The one thing that really got me convince that the grandparents knew about the outcome of Caylee was when Hoover said to Morgan, ” The Ants didn’t say anything about a Zanieda Gonzale-Zanny to the PI to help with the search.
If you truely believed that a person kidnapped your child and you go around the nation telling people that Zanny the nanny took my grandchild. Then wouldn’t your own PI’s be the first to investigate this person.
IMO the Ants all knew M did this and they help cover it up with their lies.
CAuse think about it, C has not said a word since the discovery (most likely ordered by her lawyer) and if this truley was a case were someone else did it, C would be outrage and most likely verbally attacking the public to find the killer.
But that never happen and if C is reading this (cause I’m sure they love the attention)I would like to ask, Whats more important to you, a dead 2 year child that never had a chance to grow up or a daughter who never gave her the chance?
Good morning all. I am astounded how many people’s lives…starting with Caylee’s has been so negatively affected by this monster of a woman.It is like a domino effect from hell, while the architect of all this sits happily in her ROOM getting treats from anonymous donors. Wow!
Anna be careful that your lovely little dog does not run outside, the male dogs will all be hanging out at the house waiting for her.
Morning all,
I would like to believe that the FBI are looking at porn sites to see if little Haleigh shows up.
allie @ 9:59am Thank you! THat’s very interesting that Hoover said the ants didn’t mention Zanny to the PI to search for. I’m sure that was at the same time they were flying all over and appearing on TV shows INSISTING that Caylee had been spotted with the nanny (sometimes) at malls and restaurants and insisting she was taken by the nanny.
What two-faced liars they are!
I agree that the ants knew (the night of June 15 or the next day at the latest) that Maggot murdered Caylee. And not much longer after that they knew or suspected that the remains were in the woods. But SINDEE was busy hiding all the evidence - credit card statements, DNA, brushes, pants, stuff from the car etc - so of course she would hide that.
I really PRAY that some day down the road we see SINDEE marched off in handcuffs to spend YEARS in jail for what she’s done!
Where did everyone go?
M2C @10:10…what do you mean that Sindee hid credit card statements? I missed that, please explain…
Tori - Law enforcement agencies are constantly checking porn sites for a lot of reasons. One is to try to identify children of course and another is to get some perv to contact them (thinking they are talking to a child) and set up a “date.” One guy was just arrested for that when he thought he was meeting a 13 year old girl but turned out it was a police officer! HOORAY!
Beast - I admire you if were thinking of trying to go after these pervs yourself but it could backfire! It would be hard to prove that you were trying to help catch one. I’m sure a lot of pervs use that as an excuse when they get caught. But maybe there is a way with one of those links they sent to you.
Thanks mytwocents,
There was a sting here awhile ago. It was on TV, too.
Hi, Jo!
Long ago when Sindee was talking with the primary investigators on the case (late july or early Aug - it was videotaped and released so I saw this with my own eyes). I think it was Det. Melich who was trying to get Sindee to cooperate with law enforcement. He said “You haven’t even given us your credit card statements.” Sindee could not look him in the eye and said, “No. I gave them to Lee.”
At that time the Detectives wanted to see what Maggot had charged to her mother’s credit cards - for a lot of reasons. To see where she was on certain days and what she was doing and buying etc. It was already a well-known fact that Maggot used her mother’s cc’s without permission.
Does that help?
Oh, Jo! I just remembered that it was the same conversation in which Sindee asked the Detective, “Are you looking for a live Caylee?” And he said, “We’re looking for Caylee.” Sindee was already pissed at the investigators for daring to look for Caylee dead. Everyone was looking for Caylee everywhere of course but Sindee wanted all efforts stopped that were looking for her where she might be dead.
And Sindee and George think they are qualified to look for OTHER people’s children in the WATER??? Where they would surely be dead?
God I hate those people!
(Sorry, Jo. I get so mad at them sometimes)
Hi, Tori! I read an article a while back that a detective whose work was finding these perverts enlisted the help of his young teenage daughter and her friends who taught him and other officers the kids’ “language” of texting. You know the whole language that goes way beyond LOL etc. I don’t know it. Most adults don’t. But for a police officer to try to engage a perv in an email or text message conversation he’d have to be able to write like a young girl would. Isn’t that neat that he got his daughter to teach them?
I remember all of those videos, M2C, with C. If you listen to C speak with LE you can’t help but ask yourself, “Why aren’t you coorparating with police?” that is when I started to feel as if there was something there to hide.
I will enjoy watching Cindy and George (esp Cindy) take the stand and get cross examined by the prosecution in the trial. I wonder if they, esp Cindy, will be charged with obstruction of justice (probably not.) And it irks me, too, to think that they might go look for other peoples’s children with that boat, oh puh-lease. Can’t wait until we see the first photo in the National Enquirer of C & G fishing from it. And if they think that Casey is innocent, why aren’t they looking for the “real” killer???? And by the way, they are the ones selling all the photos on behalf of Casey, IMO. Who else legally could do for Casey? Lee?
I still wonder why M was asking for one more day?
Was it to allude the questions from her mother. Perhaps she was testing the waters of her mother reaction. In hopes to lie her way out of another situation.
Did she ask for another day to “compose” herself and the story that was going to unraval the truth.
I mention my theory about this whole crazy mess before. I even wrote down the money trail of why this all took place.
But I’m still trying to figure out what M meant when she said to LEE that she will take them to Caylee tomorrow.
Jo @ 10:39 I think you are right! The ants (G, c and/or Lee) are funding the defense and using some money to keep themselves afloat!
Hope all the end up with is that damned boat. THey can live in that for all I care.
Allie - Do you have your theory and money trail handy that you could re-post it? Or tell me which article you posted it under? I don’t remember seeing it and I’d be very interested in reading it.
I think Maggot was just trying to get more time to get her mother under control and avoid having the police come that night. There is nothing she could have done really except either lie (better) or tell them the truth hoping they’d cover for her (which they probably would - they HAVE been!)
I can hear what would have been her NEXT lie if she’d gotten another 24 hours. She’d have told her parents that Zanny took Caylee to Puerto Rico so her parents would have to fund the trip for her to go find her! That way she’d have gotten to go to PR after all!
Allie: Good point, I think M asked for one more day to buy time to think of more lies or to try to get her mom NOT to call the police. That is her MO. Remember when she tried to con the detectives by saying she worked at Universal and then actually took them there and finally fesssed up when they got there? SHe goes as far as her lies will take her and then start a new one. I think she was trying to get her mom NOT to call the police that night.She was trying to con her Mom. Again.
allie,
I think she was stalling for time and was backed up against the wall. If they had said OK, I believe she would have bolted and been long gone.
That’s right, Jo and Tori. Maggot also got mad at the police complaining that THEY didn’t give her another 24 hours either. And later wanted to be let out of jail so SHE could look for her! The NERVE!
What still stumps me is WHY the moron did not have a better lie prepared? For her mother at least. I guess Maggot had controlled her mother for so long that she thought she didn’t really have to plan for it. I just don’t know.
It sickens me to think that the Anthonys are making money off their dead grandaughter and are using that money to defend her killer. THeir part in all this will come out in the trial under cross examination. I would like to say to Cindy: “If you were with Caylee, and someone tried to hurt or harm her, you would defend her with all your might from an attacker. I know you would do this. So why are you now protecting her killer?!”
I think we should pool our resources and memories and build a list of all the ways that the ants did NOT cooperate with law enforcement, lied, contradicted themselves, fooled with evidence AND blasted people searching for Caylee anywhere besides airports, malls and restaurants (like if Caylee was dead).
So anytime we hear someone sound supportive of the ants new career in searching for “Missing” children we have a list to give them of why these people are the LEAST qualified people on earth and why they should not be ALLOWED near such an investigation.
If that boat was purchased for the sole purpose of finding missing kids, or helping to find missing children, then G and C better never go out for a joy ride in it, ever! I hope people will watch out for this!
If you google Neckbreakers, there is an online store that has bizarre clothes, and there is a band called Swinging Neckbreakers. They have a song called “Diggin’ A Grave.
Tori…you might be on to something…maybe m heard the song and thought the group was neckbreaking…or heard breaking necks…and just googles what she thought the group name might be??? To downloand a song on her evil thoughts…
Jo, supposedly G is going to do the looking - (go out fishing - I mean all the “searching” experience he has is tooling around town in his airconditioned car!) and Sindee is going to handle the “administrative” side of their Blasted “foundation built on a child’s grave.”
That means he’s in charge of faking it and she’s in charge of fraud.
Perhaps Cindee was so upset they were looking for a dead caylee cause she ALREADY KNEW she was dead
I wish we had some more news. Probably not till next week.
These Anthony idiots didn’t even find their own grandaughter 300 feet from their house and they’re going to “look for missing children” ??
All they’re gonna look for is $$$$$.
We now have an accounting of the criminal records of both Haleigh’s biological parents: Ronald Cummings and Crystal Sheffield….
RONALD CUMMINGS RECORD:
MAY 20, 2001
POSS. OF TOBACCO UNDER 18 YEARS OLD – GUILTY
OCTOBER 23, 2001
INTENT OR THREAT TO DO VIOLENCE – DROPPED
DECEMBER 12, 2002
COCAINE POSSESSION – NOT PROSECUTED
MARIJUANA POSSESSION – ADMINISTRATIVELY DISMISSED
NARCOTIC EQUIPMENT POSSESSION – NO ACTION TAKEN
MARCH 21, 2004
POSSESSION OF ALCOHOL UNDER 21 – DISPOSITION HELD
CONTRIBUTING TO DELINQUENCY OF A MINOR – NOT PROSECUTED
NOVEMBER 12, 2004
MARIJUANA DISTRIBUTION – ADJUDICATION WITHHELD
NARCOTIC EQUIPMENT POSSESSION – NO ACTION TAKEN
MAINTAINING DRUG VEHICLE – NO ACTION TAKEN
SEPTEMBER 26, 2005
POSSESSION OF MORPHINE – DROPPED
POSSESSION OF CONTROLLED SUBSTANCE WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION – DROPPED
POSSESSION OF DRUG WITHOUT PRESCRIPTION – DROPPED
NARCOTIC EQUIPMENT POSSESSION – DROPPED
VIOLATION OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE INJUNCTION – DROPPED
JULY 29, 2006
TRESPASSING AFTER WARNING – GUILTY – GIVEN PROBATION AND A FINE
CRYSTAL SHEFFIELD RECORD:
June 25, 2007 - providing false information regarding a crime – prosecution deferred and
July 2008 - traffic violation for driving while her license was suspended.
Sheffield complied with the terms of her deferment.
A lawyer for the mother of a missing Florida girl slammed the child’s father in an interview, saying the little girl was exposed to a “typical sex, drugs and rock-and-roll lifestyle” before she disappeared, MyFOXOrlando.com reported.
Haleigh Cummings, 5, vanished on Feb. 9 from the Satsuma-area trailer home where she lives with her 24-year-old father, Ronald Cummings, his 17-year-old wife Misty Croslin and Haleigh’s little brother Ronald Junior, 4.
“The particular lifestyle that we believe is led by Misty and Ronald Cummings is one that essentially laid out the red carpet to something at some point happening to these children, and something did,” Kim Picazio, an attorney for Crystal Sheffield, said in an interview Wednesday with MyFOXOrlando.com.
Click here for photos.
She said Misty and Ronald Cummings lead “your typical sex, drugs and rock-and-roll lifestyle that is not conducive to raising children.”
Meanwhile, the Florida Department of Children and Families is investigating instances of abuse and neglect at the Cummings household, according to MyFOXOrlando.com.
Ronald Cummings could not be reached for comment when called by the station. The family has reportedly been advised by legal counsel not to speak with the media. A call to Cummings’ lawyer also was not returned.
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Maybe we will get lucky and they will wrap the anchor chain around there necks and toss themselves overboard!
Pickles
Tori
ahhhh much better today

I was on the Jaxsonville news site and they have pictures of the bruises up close. I don’t think she was battered.
So it looks like Crystal doesn’t have the criminal record like Ron does!!
The “Man in Dark Clothes” Lead Re-Appears
Some new revelations in the case of missing 5-year-old Satsuma girl Haleigh Cummings came to light late Thursday.
Kim Picazio, the attorney for missing Haleigh’s biological mother shared with me some new details about what she said happened the night Haleigh was taken concerning a man in dark clothes. She says Ronald Junior, Haleigh’s brother, woke up when a man came into the house to see Misty Croslin, Haleigh’s father Ronald Cummings’ then girlfriend—now teen bride.
“What he said to his mother was that he saw a black man in black clothing take Haleigh…she asked him, if you were asleep Junior how could you have seen that if you were asleep? And he said well I woke up because the man had squeaky shoes…and the couch was bouncing,” said Picazio.
AUDIO: Attorney Kim Picazio
“A lot of the times we hear things from 8 different people who did not know each other including eyewitnesses. And at this point we have a pretty solid timeline. We think we know what happened in that house up until about 10:30. There’s a wide gap in time from 10:30 till three in the morning and somewhere in that time frame, Haleigh went missing,” said Picazio.
This account may play into the story given to me by Private Investigator/Bounty Hunter William “Cobra” Staubs last week regarding allegations made that Misty was in the company of an African-American male named “Greg.”
In the account given to me by Staubs, he was about to present Ronald with the news of “Greg” when Cummings stopped him and alleged said that he knew about the man. Staubs says Ronald told him that Misty was with “Greg” a week before Haleigh’s disappearance and that the two might have possibly been together the night of the abduction.
Picazio told me her investigators are looking for the very same man.
AUDIO: Attorney Kim Picazio
Ronald Cummings could not be reached for comment.
Attorney Kim Picazio also told me that her investigators have been searching areas she claims police failed to search. One of those searches yielded a cloth sheet or blanket that was found to have rust and what appears to be blood on it. That piece of cloth has been turned over to investigators in the case.
I had a brief conversation with P.I./Bounty Hunter William “Cobra” Staubs late Thursday as well breaking a week of no contact. With him on this telephone conversation was a man named Marty who says he’s Crystal Sheffield’s father.
Both told me that they have run into difficulties with some low-ranking law enforcement officers. Each claim one female law enforcement official told the men to stop their searches and that they were hampering the investigation. Marty told me over the phone they were threatened with arrest and possible charges of tampering with evidence.
The couch was bouncing??? If the couch is a bouncing dont come a knockin??
Those bruises are from falling off of the monkey bars face first onto concrete..
And well the switch bruises im now sure of??? On Jr.’s arms and legs…..thats still iffie…
I just sent Brad Conway and e mail asking him how his clients are supposed to have any credibility in regards to this “finding miissing children” foundation.
I don’t expect to ever have a reply, but you never know.
If anyone is interested, his e mail address is bradley@bconwaylaw.com
GINA, love you back! Sure, ask Jan for my email. Please.
BEAST thanks for doing that for us. I am glad the GOOD GUYS are undercover (with you) and setting up “stings” and GETTING THEM! They only get smarter and smarter. Heard this line once about illegals. We will build a wall 12′ high, and they will make a ladder 16′ tall. We must keep on, keeping on because they are! WE should go after the LAW too. After being caught, usually after 17 years of doing it, the LAW should be LIFE since we ALL KNOW they CANNOT be CURED! So why let them OUT? WHAT KIND OF LAWS DO WE HAVE??? IS this NUTS? I wonder if you could work with John Walsh, America’s Most Wanted?
ANNA thanks for writing in all caps. WOKE ME UP AND I NEEDED THAT! ha ha.
I think those creeps take pictures of our children at these events, too. THEY ARE DOGS IN HEAT!!!! You are in MN? I have good friends in ELY.
MTC amazing how BOZO plays to the future Jury Pool (from which will come the REAL JURY) saying/acting like he won. Real SPIN DR. THAT is for KC plus good P.R. I guess… THAT’S WHEN BIG TIME PRAYERS are needed … for the 12 Jurors plus the Alternates. HA! CINDY is the TREASURER? WONDERFUL! Keep it in the family. And Lee the Car Hop, is the accountant? A FAMILY AFFAIR. WHERE IS IRS??
If ants are involved with other bogus “Foundations”, plus knowing them, it wouldn’t be a far stretch to think THEY are cut from the SAME CLOTH, and living off the collected money, plus giving much of it to KC. THAT has to be THEIR PURPOSE! To support ALL ANTS! They couldn’t name it for what it WAS could they!! CREEPS! **They said they threw KC under the Bus? They threw CAYLEE under the BUS!** We all hear - LOUD AND CLEAR the TRUTH has no part in their lives … just what I WANT, I WANT, I WANT. THE HELL with the TRUTH!!! WHAT’S THAT Admiral Cindy?
Guess KC was all made up at the last Hearing, playing up to her “Johns” who are supporting her from all over the country.
so what. Ron knew about Greg but didnt care and kept her around anyways?
hey everyone! doing a drive by! pickles glad to see you back, and don’t forget about the radio show tomorrow!!! to tell everyone! i sent you an email this morning!
not much new, I am not sure what to think of the haleigh case and this other guy thing?
Thanks for the info Pickles. Very interesting.
XO,
Isn’t the radio show on Sunday?
tomorrow night too on blogger news is a show at 8pm the guest star is going to be richard grund, jesses father, this is not being aired by simon or jan, another person is airing this… tomorrow night at 8pm, go to bnn and check the times… just like ours only run by someone else… victims of abused or something like that
OK XO
I am starting to have fading hopes about finding Haleigh alive.
Where is Static, Spacely, Dak and Beast????
Anna’s dog is in Heat, guys!
I read somewhere that a jailmate of Casey’s said that Casey blamed Caylee for ruining her life it was all Cayee’s fault that she was in jail. And that Casey wanted to have another baby but a boy….So Casey feels no remorse because Caylee did this to her….and it just isn’t fair.
I have noticed that she seems to be eating pretty well and getting rather chubby. That is probably all Caylee’s fault too….hard to get enough exersize when one is in jail…..poor little Casey….
Pika,
Wishful thinking on Casey’s part. Hoping to get out of jail, track down Tony and have a baby boy? Not!
Does anyone think that m thinks she will get off? She has a warped mind.
Pickles, With all the charges that Ron has accumulated, why were almost all of them DROPPED!! That doesn’t make sense to me!!
No consequences for those charges will just lead to more illegal activity…which looks to be the case. WTF is going on down there in the county courts??
Poor Hayleigh and JR!!
I think I am suddenly alone in here. bbl
I still don’t understand why Ron would keep her around knowing that Misty was cheating on him
Ohhh.Unless Ron is Bi and he was doing Greg too?
Beast,
She was probably servicing Greg in exchange for drugs.
Didn’t Ron say Misty was gone the whole weekend. Misty was single and actually could do anything she wanted to do. But she should have been watching the kids that night.
Ron probably didn’t care just as long as he got his pot.
MTC birds of a feather flock together. I wonder if Never Lose Hope Foundation and Kidlosers are joining with the lovely ants for the publicity, and have a deal with them to get BACK the money they gave them, once the CMA Foundation gets rolling?
If their hearts were in the RIGHT PLACE, they would ask for “Donations in Caylee’s name”, to go to Tim Miller. (WHY ASK FOR MONEY NOW … she’s gone.) But that isn’t their objective. Let’s have more and more and more splintered Foundations, ALL self-serving, ALL supporting families. What *should* their FOUNDATION be called?
1. “SUPPORT Caylee Anthony’s Family Foundation”.
or
2. “Cindy, Casey, George, Lee Foundation.” (Help support a mental family.) I wonder where this family will be in 10 years …
Tori @ 12:21 You said, “Wishful thinking on Casey’s part. Hoping to get out of jail, track down Tony and have a baby boy? Not!”
That made me laugh out loud because I immediately pictured poor Tony running down the street as fast as he could with the Maggot Witch after him!!! LOL! I bet he has nightmares about her now.
PICKS 11:58 Thanks for that! Hope you are feeling better.
Did I hear that Ron Cummings has relatives in the police department, or LE somewhere?
Heart,
In 10 years,
M in jail
C playing grandma to Lee’s kids
G probably dead or living with someone else.
mytwocents,

Heart,
One more thing. C sitting on either Conway’s or Dominic’s lap dancing
LORIM, anybody …
Can Amy H. take the 5th as someone suggested, when BOZO Subpoenas her for a Deposition?
IF she does that, can the Prosecution call her as one of their witnesses, and can she testify then - at the big Trial?
heart, we were in mn last yr for a wedding in hibbing, right down the road from ely. lol talk bout small world. then we went to a place called loon point resort. very nice. hello all!!!
pickles glad to see your feeling better
ANNA, when little, I had a dog in heat. Yes, be CAREFUL that she doesn’t DART! (Forget who warned you… but true!) Seems to be a 2 way street.
When I was about 9, back east, It was snowing, and this little dog laid in the snow across a 4 lane highway, waiting for my little dog to come out. I didn’t understand…
Then I grew up, and learned a little … about males. I think I understood, then.
Good morning Heart ♥
Amy Huizenga is on the States witness list. She will be open to questions from both sides of the court. I hope she nails kc!
mb, im sorry to hear bout your husband,
cancer is so bad, i have a sister that was dianosed with breast cancer 2 yrs ago, she fought it and is a 1yr surviver, i was her bra we went to doctors appts together when i could get to illinois as fast as i could, her hubby was there with her too. all her kids. she went thru kemo lost her hair so i cut mine so short u couldve shaved mine, we are letting our hair grow out together now.
lorim, i hope your right id like to see amy nail that bitch to the wall no mercy!!!! you know the def, is going to try to make her uncredible, assholes.
Hi, Folks!
I am compiling a list of good, factual reasons why Sindee and G should never pretend to look for missing children. Would you all please help? I am sure that I do not remember everything or know where to look for the information.
Right now it starts with:
1) George drove home a car that “smelled like death” (as he told the police) and then went to work (after not seeing Caylee for 31 days)
2) Also after not seeing Caylee or Casey for 31 days, Sindee washed out the car that she also said “smelled like something died in it,” removed items from the car and washed them.
(then went to work)
(I will check both quotes because I think G also said “I hope it’s not my granddaughter”).
3) Sindee refused to provide evidence that LE requested (for example: her credit card statements)
4) Sindee gave LE the WRONG hair brush on purpose (for Caylee’s DNA)
I also intend to include the many examples of the Ants angrily discouraging anyone from looking for Caylee dead and the statement on the Find Caylee website after the remains were found that read, “Found Safe!” (So “safe” means “dead” to the Ants)
What I’d like to do with this list when it’s ready is send it out every time we see anything positive said about the CMA Foundation or Sindee and G’s plans to get into the missing child business. I really do want factual information to fight them on this every step of the way so they never succeed in pulling the wool over everyone’s eyes.
BRING ON THE TRIAL!!!!! GUILTY!!!!!
mytwocents,
the remark about the dog’s tooth brush
mytwocents, i remember all this from early on in the case.i dont know where to find any info but C-A OR PICKLES OR SOMEONE with pc skills could look it up for you its a great idea.
heart @ 12:38
The Fifth Amendment is for people who refuse to incriminate themselves. Like if you ask a bank robber where he was yesterday morning (and he was robbing the bank) he could plead the 5th because answering would incriminate him.
Amy is not guilty of anything. I hope she nails Maggot, too, and all she has to do is tell the truth! Hopefully she will have a lawyer with her to advise her of her rights if the questions stray too far from what’s relevant which I am sure they will unfortunately.
Didn’t Amy partyyyyyy, too?
More Evidence Against Casey To Be Released
Anthony Attorney Plans To Depose Secuity Guard Again
UPDATED: 12:52 pm EDT March 27, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. — The state is preparing to make another large release of evidence in the case against Casey Anthony in the coming days.
A spokeswoman with the state attorney’s office said some time next week she’s looking to put out hundreds of pages of new material.
Casey Anthony, 23, is in the Orange County Jail charged with murder in the disappearance of her daughter, Caylee Anthony. Caylee’s remains were found in a wooded area off of Suburban Drive near the Anthonys’ East Orange County home.
Also next week, Jose Baez, Casey Anthony’s attorney, plans to depose the Anthony’s former volunteer security guard, James Hoover.
Baez said he wants to probe more deeply in to why Hoover and private investigator Dominic Casey searched the woods where Caylee’s remains were later found.
Hoover was just deposed Wednesday in the Zenaida Gonzalez civil suit.
Gonzalez is suing Casey Anthony for defamation. She said Anthony ruined her good name by naming her as the nanny who kidnapped Caylee.
tori, i remember cindee saying something to that effect bout her giving toothbrush to le instead of hairbrush, but didnt she give them the wrong hair brush anyways?
I think this person Annie could have something to share.
Tori @ 12:51 Thank you!
Gina - See Tori’s note. That’s the kind of thing I’m talking about. Any little thing you remember that someone said or did. You don’t have to have the exact quote but it will jog my memory.
Also, folks, I’ll send this out. There won’t be any reflection to anyone else.
Thank you!
gina,
yes she did
12:55 post came from WESH Orlando
♥
One last remark and I have to leave:
Remember in the OJ trial, anyone who had sold their story to the media was deemed an unreliable witness and was not called to testify.
Just now on HLN.
BOZO is filing a Protective Order to prevent KC from speaking at a Deposition for Zanaida G. They are saying her Testimony might hurt her murder case.
GOOD. Glad they admitted that.
Tori @ 12:55 - Not sure to what degree or at what kinds of parties Amy “partied.” Most of Maggot’s friends have already admitted doing some weed (maybe Amy did too I don’t know) but the cops don’t seem interested in following up. But yes Hosebag WILL try to tear apart poor Amy (and everyone else)in an effort to cast doubt on their testimony.
I was responding to heart who I thought meant for Amy to take the 5th on all questions except her name because that’s the only question Maggot answered on her written Depo.
Lorim,
Gina, Thank you and your love and support for your sister is heartwarming. Yes, cancer is evil. I watched my Tom slip away everyday for 5 months even tho he was taking rad. and chemo. He was actually beating the cancer. In the end, it was the treatments that lead to his death. Too much for his frail body…even tho the cancer was about gone. I miss him terribly but would not want him back for 1 minute if he had to suffer even for 1 more minute. He was ready to go. I hugged him and told him he needed go be with God and I would always miss him and love him, but I would be O.K. When I rose up from holding him, he had big tears rolling out of his eyes. THe nurse wiped them off and he left about a minute later to be with God.
Your sister is blessed to have you. I know you will continue to support her and I pray she will continue to be a survivor of this horrible disease. God Bless your sister….and you!!
mb,
I think I am going to cry.
mytwocents, lee out in the front yard of ants house picking up caylees memoral stuff acting like an idiot, didnt he make a comment then? or did he just go into the house, i dodnt remember
how about c beating the cross with a baseball bat (don’t remember the source
)
thank you mb, you are a very loving strong woman. god has already blessed me with bringing you and such good freinds here on bnn together,into my life.i think we are all kindred spirits i will pray and send love to each and every one of you.
Tori ♥
THANKS MTC.
I HATE when they get information in advance. I can just see them with their beadie little eyes, sitting around their Conference table discussing this … trying to knock down EACH AND EVERY STATEMENT! All 9 of them.
They are not WELL known enough? Dr. Lee, Baden, etc. need to do this pro bono for “exposure”? RIGHT … sure. I believe them all, as far as I can throw my house.
heart, to funny
but that bout sums it up tho.
GINA,
I think there was a hair brush used solely for Caylee, and one that was used by other members of the family, abd Caylee. Let’s guess which one C gave the FBI. **The communal hair brush.** LET’S MAKE IT HARD FOR THE GOOD MEN WHO ARE LOOKING FOR A BABY!!!! Her cover up started way back then, AND the washing of KC’s death clothes in the trunk. At first, I believed Cindy … maybe … innocent mistake? But then I thought … NO married to a Cop? She knows better! We were off to the RACES.
I think they asked for Caylee’s tooth brush. I think she gave it to them, how could she play games with THAT ONE? (She thought of it - later.) C said to George “I should have given them the Dog’s Toothbrush!” (Too late Cindy, not the brightest bulb in the pack - too late now.) George said “Don’t say that!!!” Now what does that show? Cindy was thwarting the men who were HELPING THE ANTHONY’S FIND THEIR LITTLE GRANDAUGHTER, IN WHATEVER STATE SHE WAS IN! WHY IS THAT other than she KNEW KC killed her little granddaughter even back then! OBVIOUS. OH I hope the JURY gets it!!
Is this correct … anyone? God knows I try.
heart, nothing else makes sense
mb - I have same memories of November you have. Your word “surreal” was perfect. I told my bff that I felt like I was looking at the world through an empty cardboard paper towel roll all the time. Looking back, I don’t exactly know what I meant - ha.
My prayers are with you mb ♥
My2cents - you are on a roll today. I am trying to catch up on posts.
12:49 - I know we will all try to help with the list.
My2cents - you are on a roll today. I am trying to catch up on posts.
12:49 - I know we will all try to help with the list.
yes heart you are correct, that is why i hate the ants so much!! they delibertly sent le on wild goose chaces and caylee had no hope that her family was ever going to stand up for her. but she is in gods hands now he will take care of her always, and if hayliegh has met the same means as caylee she is there with caylee and they are the best of freinds now playing together. i really do hope they find her alive , but it has been so long…
Baez said he wants to probe more deeply in to why Hoover and private investigator Dominic Casey searched the woods where Caylee’s remains were later found.
………………………………………..
Does he mean that?? He might not like the truth about why they were in those particular woods.
hi capy
GOOD DAY everone, we have had load’s of rain, it has rain last 3or4 day’s oh well we needed it, Heart; 1;20 I thought she new when George came home and she was walking up and down the drive way, saying we have lost her! we have lost her! George say’s who? She said CAYLEE!
mb - I accident hit the post button. I’m not having a good morning.
7:23 - You hit the nail right on the head and with substantiation. The media would definitely have a $$ gain to supporting Defense, trial and all that entails.
Otherwise, I cannot even imagine why someone would contribute to defending a baby killer.
Pickles - glad you are feeling better. Do you think Jr. has been coached again with story of shoes and sofa??
XOXOXO and PICKS
What time is the Grund interview … PST??? Thanks in advance.
LINDA 1:29 Did C know/mean they lost her to Zanny? Kidnapped? What a moment that must have been, the realization that Caylee was GONE … somewhere, somehow. And knowing their daughter is a whacko AND that horrific FIGHT! What a moment! Their lives would never be the same.
Did they GO nuts, or probably WERE always NUTS? I think … the latter.
hi all just a thought how is a missing childrens org, abl to donate funds for m defence??? obviously the child is found just sounds fishy to me?
L&L’s Papa - I too was perplexed about why BAEZ is delving into Hoover & Dominics reasons for searching the woods on Suburban Drive.
We always had our suspicisions that Lee & M were talking code at one of the jail conversations. If this info about the woods is trickle down from M, well …
Bozo will probably be sneaky enough not to record his findings, otherwise, he too has to release info to Prosecution.
beast alot of x in the drug world free drugs for sex..thats all i can think of…just when i thought id never have to buy another diaper, for my dog…unbelievable, she thinks shes in trouble poor thing…
PICKLES
FEELING BETTER HUH???
tori..i cant find your post for the time, but you said m told a cel mate that ething was caylee’s fault?? i didnt think she could talk to anyone else??? maybe someone else in pc to huh??? i wouldnt doubt she said something like that to…damn skank!
mb..i lost my sis in 02..we were very close, i took her in on a monday found out she had cancer everywhere, breast.lung,liver,spleen…etc…she died fri night…how she lived with it wide spread like that is beyond me, but a lot of pain the last few days, it hurt me to see her like that could barley touch her…now i donate my time to amc..daffodil days anything they need me to do..i wouldnt wish it on my worst enemy…
i ran e1 off again:(….. im so lonley
Heart, When C stated ‘We have lost her’, they had not located Kcee yet. It was after Amy took cndee to Tonys house to retrieve kcee, that kcee told cndee about the Zanny lie. Did that make sense…what I just wrote?? lol
Thank you Capy @1:25..I knew you lost your husband too. Was it cancer? How long ago?
I’m sorry. Painful memories.
Anna - ♥
Did you see M’s picture when she was 7 months preggers? It is over at http://www.cayleedaily.com in the link entitled “Open thread for Nancy Grace 3/26.
And Cindy, the RN denied to her brother that M was pregnant!
mb - November 22, 1998 Multiple Myaloma (cancer of bone marrow) classified in the “leukemia” family.
Be sure to go see 7 mon. pregger Monster! What a crackup!
oh yeah shes not prego in that pic! rofl he looks like she could pop right there! And Cindee is a nurse? Im’m glad I’ll never be in her area needing treatment.
Yeah, I saw that picture a couple of weeks ago. Can Cindy get any more stupid??
capy, do you ever watch the shows on prison they go to difrent prisons and accually film behind bars, after looking at the link you gave us and how the other female inmates were pretty pissed when caylee’s remains were found reminded me of a riot they spoke about in one of the prisons the inmates got out locked the guards up got to the “protected inmates” one guy was running around with a decapitated guys head tied on his belt….can you immagine if these ladies got hold of m??? thanks for that link its also hard to believe c a nurse would believe m never had sex looking like that, just with her staying out all hrs and would alert me….but why??? why do they continusly believe her lies???? i just dont get it, even if you tell your child ok i believe you, most times you would confide in someone your true thoughts, think they were scared of m???? thats the only thing i can think of as to why, unless they are plane stupid, witch could also be the case!
beast@9:03 thanks for looking for us..i hope i never accedentaly come across child porn but i will report it if i do! when i got my pc my sis warned me to be real carfull at what i typed in i guess she typed in bannas and got one heck of a suprise!!!
lol@anna..what you didnt get bananas? lol
the show was helman extended stay!!! usually comes on saturday nights on msnbc..one of thoes news channels…lots of diffrent prisons they go into…i tell you i wouldnt want to be a child killer in a mens prison!!! well i wouldnt want to be a child killer period!! you guys know what i mean!!!:)
Anna - Yes, “Lock Up” on MSNBC. We see all kinds of stories on that show.
I don’t know how they will ever place M in general population. As you know, some prisoners are so violent that even in the exercise yard, they have fenced in “runners” (kind of like you would provide for your dog) to exercise in. I think that is what they will have to do with M (only it will be for HER protection), or they will face a lawsuit.
A family here in PHX area, sued and won $7 mil, I think it was, when their son died in custody.
Decapitated a guy? Holy cow! I believe it.
I can’t figure C out. An educated woman in a professional career. Maybe that is what they mean about “only being book smart”.
Anna, I’m sorry for the lose of your sister. Ironically, I have only one sister and I found out this week that she just found out she has cancer of the ovaries, stomach, liver, uterus, and God knows what else.
I’m afraid she has found out too late, but will do whatever the Dr.s will need to do.
anna, I don’t think that the missing childrens’ organization is going to be used to pay Maggot. If so, the Ants are even stupider that I have ever thought. Neither of them is smart enough to move money around and hide it that way. No. If the ants are paying for it, it means THEY got a movie rights deal or something for lots of money and are paying Baez from that.
The photo on Cayleedaily.com that shows Sindee with Baez and Conway talking after the hearing Wed makes me think that is true. Sindee looks really serious and not happy. I think she was afraid that old bozo let the cat out of the bag and told the judge and state that they are the ones footing the bill.
The missing children’s org is a hobby to keep George out of motels and a future career that they can pay themselves out of. Seriously. (not the motel part but the rest) LOL!
no banannas here
mb, my sister didnt want ant treatment(chemo) because of how much sicker it makes you, they say once cancer is in the liver 6mo with chemo, but why have your last months so sick?? i suppose its a matter of choice huh?? wish your sis the best she will also be in our prayers,all our bnn family is some get a little extra at times ;), m2c i must have misunderstood i thought fl donated $$ to the ants under the pretence of looking for caylee, when in fact itwas used for m’s defence….did that make sence???
mb - I don’t know what to say. I know you must be devastated, in addition with all you have been through in few months.
My thoughts are with you.
Anna - ♥ you too.
Hello all I found this article and it is very interesting.
http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/breakingnews/orl-casey-anthony-lawyer-baez-032709,0,4266860.story
mb, just be sure you 2 spend good time together! love you mb…..♥ gotta pick up kids bbim
anna, sorry to hear you lost your sister, i lost mine to, and we were best friend’s, i miss her so bad, hey i will be your sister! I need a sister!
heart @ 12:59 You said, on HLN you heard that “BOZO is filing a Protective Order to prevent KC from speaking at a Deposition for Zanaida G. They are saying her Testimony might hurt her murder case.”
Bozo already presented a motion to get Maggot exempt from a deposition and the motion was denied. So this is his second try. But this is HIS OWN FAULT! The only reason she has to be deposed is because she counter-sued!!! If it was only ZFG suing her, Maggot would not have to be deposed. So once again the bloated fool brought it all on himself. I sure hope they don’t get a protective order either!
Oh and everyone, I had to leave for a bit but when I came back I read all your comments with the suggestions for our list! Thank you so much!
If you ever run across sources for such information. Like a web addy for NG transcripts or Larry King transcripts etc where more of these gems are please let me know.
And ANYTIME you happen to think of something to add to the list please tell me. If I’m not here just include MTC or mytwocents in the comment and I’ll find it. THANK YOU!
Thanks Capy..I’m so worried. It’s been rough the last 10 months. But we get thru..because we have to.
Mytwocents - My first couple posts today were whacky. I was trying to tell you, you have put some good thoughts down. I copied your 12:49, but I don’t seem to put in words as well as you.
Correct me if I am wrong, but I thought M could avoid the WHOLE deposition, if all she had to say is “this Zenaida Gonzalez is not the Zenaida that watched my daughter.” ??
If I read that right (some time ago), Bozo really steered his client wrong. aaaah who gives a rats patuti.
MB I am sorry for your pain and loss. My husband is very very sick too, as is my youngest brother. Prayers … from OR.
Anna … I missed about you. Rushing to go to the Tax Man.
Cindy Marie Anthony could have a side business. $10./packet on HOW TO DO IT!
HOW TO TURN A MISSING CHILD OR MURDERED CHILD - INTO A MULTI MILLION DOLLAR CONGLOMERATE/FOUNDATION TO SUPPORT THE ENTIRE FAMILY!
a) How to get the Media out to your house - daily.
b) How to get interviews with Larry King, Geraldo, etc.
c) How to really PLAY and USE the Media in the best way.
d) How to a spin, spin, spin
e) How to “cover” and hide evidence
f) How to get stupid people to start support the family including the
murder and her expenses
g) How to gather a DREAM TEAM for the murderer who is penniless.
h) How to orchestrate monies constantly coming in to a murderer.
i) How to work undercover, hiding all evidence of future books, films,
etc.
j) How to find other losers, both for the “team” as well as to help in
setting up the NEW BIZ.
Maybe Ron would buy it for $10.00.
Sorry for errors above. Rushing … tax guy.
bbl
TAVARES - A Lake County man, serving a 15-year prison sentence in the death of a toddler, wants his manslaughter and child-abuse convictions overturned, citing judicial and prosecutorial misconduct and the “defectiveness” of his defense lawyer, Jose Baez.
Baez is better known these days as Casey Anthony’s lawyer. But last spring he was busy defending Nilton Diaz.
Diaz, 31, insists he did not kill or harm 2-year-old Noeris Vazquez, granddaughter of legendary Puerto Rican prize-fighter Wilfredo Vazquez. Instead, Diaz claims he lost his freedom because of Baez’ trial performance, strategy and failure to disclose evidence to prosecutors, a tactical decision that prevented jurors from viewing a defense video.
The video, created by a biomechanical expert, would have shown the jury how the toddler’s skull fracture could have been an accident, according to new court filings.
Hi, Capy @ 2:56 I may be wrong but I think Maggot already said that THIS was not the Zenaida she meant. But it was too little too late to avoid the law suit because Zenaida had already suffered from the fact that Maggot used her name.
Gina - thank you for reminding me about the dog’s toothbrush comment!
Dakdude
Capy
Mytwocents - oh - okay. There’s so much to keep track of!
HLN is on - doing a short blurb on Haleigh’s facial injuries. Now, I have no opinion whether these injuries came from a fall or abuse. But, I did see an older neighbor after she fell face-first onto the pavement. Her hands were full and she couldn’t break her fall. Saddest thing I ever saw. She looked like she had been in a head-on car accident. So, I can see getting a full-face injury of this nature. But like I said, I am not going to even guess on this one.
ANNA, Just read about your sister. My brother just finished his treatment about 9 months ago. I am soooo worried. He is a great guy!
So sorry …. it’s awful!!!!! HATE IT!
Dak…Thanks for sharing that article! I just love hearing stuff like that!!!!
I figured you guys would
Lorim - Bozo has had a lot of little “sideshows” along the way. I can’t remember details, but he got in trouble months ago about accusing prosecutors of something. Of course, this week he had to explain/defend/ accusations of conflict of interest $$$, and few months ago he had hired a felon with an alias to his team.
I should have taken notes of all the DETAILS. I do have an idea, that Jan & Simon and all of us on BNN should put all notes together and write a book after the trial.
How in the h#ll could Cindy write a book. IF Maggot was found not guilty, she would write a “See I told you so” (not to be confused with Limbaugh). If found guilty, it would be about all the junk evidence.
immagine bb doing a shitty job!!! hmm…thanks dak for that bit of info…really makes you wonder why hes defending her, what his real motives are, and altho i think w all have him peged, maybe the ants will see to..or do we care, i care about caylee and how this trial should bring her some justice, and not a circus freak show, and also the $$$ its costing florida, could you immagine being accused af something and really bring innocent??? especially after this mess…youd get tossed out on your ear!!!
Yeah its that article that makes me worry that he might screw this up to
you guys notice bb hasnt given any reason for m being not guilty or have done this on accedent…all he has done for this case is file unnesasary motions??? could be a good thing tho cuz if hes so busy filing motions how could he possibly be working on any defence..also havent heard any response to wee willy and his 17 extra hairs??? think it was a bogus claim???something to make pros get woried??? i do, if any xta hair it came from wee’s coat!!!
Dakdude - when M is convicted, there will probably be appeals up the ying yang.
Kudos to Judge Strickland for the way he is handling all these motions and making M appear for all of them so she can’t make claims later that she didn’t understand.
Anna - Baez needs a boat like G’s for all his ‘fishing expeditions’.
immagine that bozo not disclosing evedince!!! IM SHOCKED AND APPAULED BY THIS INFORMATION!!!!!
Dak…that’s kinda scary when it comes to a mistrial, appeal etc. Fortunately there is just way to much evidence against kc. I’m hoping no matter how much of a horrible attorney he is, that the defense will nail this case shut! (forever)
*****
Capy ♥
yep judge strickland seems like a very patient and easygoing man….seems to be handling the publicity and stress of this trial just fine…i suppose we will se how later goes, but i think he’ll do just fine
Capy I don’t think Baez could could find a boat big enough for all the fishing he’s doing
Maybe that’s why casey is smiling so much! SHE KNOW’S!
Man Linda thats a scary thought
Lorim - Is Judge Strickland retiring soon? Even if not, I don’t think he would preside if there is a change of venue.
Capy..I sure hope he isn’t retiring. I really like him!!! I heard if they change venues…judge Strickland and everyone involved goes with!
I think the most ironic thing about this situation is that all along the prosecution has been trying hard to prevent Bozo’s own incompetence from getting Maggott off later on.
One thing the state did a while ago -when Maggot was not attending all the hearings- was to ask the judge to be sure that Maggot knew she could attend and if she didn’t want to she had to sign a waiver saying so. The judge decided that she should attend the hearings!
So there was a situation that could have caused trouble later - but was avoided thanks to the state.
And Wednesday’s hearing was another example of the state heading off possible incompetence (in the guise of conflict of interest this time).
anna I thought I heard long ago that Strickland’s term as a judge was going to be over before the trial started. Maybe that changed or I heard wrong. Not sure.
lets hope so MTC
Hey Dak…awesome post about bozo…what could this mean! I mean, could this actually spell trouble for the same thing happening with maggott?
What if he is with-holding evidence that could help maggott….
Anna,
I don’t think I was the one who posted that.
Lorim and others.
Prosecuters are going to release hundreds of pages of evidence next week. Source Wesh 2 News
Wow C~A I really didn’t think about that
Mytwocents - I head something like that too. Hopefully it was false information.
And to everyone who has lost or has a loved one who is ill. ♥ ♥
quick question…say m does get out, lee marries mallory and has a baby girl…think lee will let m babysit his child????
been outta the loop for a day or two here! I feel lost!
anna,
I wouldn’t let her babysit my cat. I wouldn’t even want her in my house. “Watch your wallet”
♥Tori♥

What’s sad about that story is that a man got only 15 years for manslaughter and child abuse of a toddler. He probably should be kissing hosebag’s feet.
It sounds like that video graphic/re-creation was some expensive thing that hosebag sold his client on and then didn’t use (probably forgot to pick it up at the video production place! LOL!) but it wasn’t necessarily exculpatory (enough to show the guy was innocent).
Lorim,

m2c @4:04 i did hear that also, just forgot…thats why you guys are here to help me out…thanks
I don’t think Strickland is presiding over the criminal trial. Heard that quite a while back..
C~A,
You have been out of the loop? Beast said last night he was going under the covers.
mb,
site your source, please.
thats too bad. Cause she is going to strictland, for a very long time
I heard that too MB - But it’s not Rodriquez either right! I wonder if they have ‘murder trial judges…just for murder…hope she gets a seasoned one…like judge judy…she’s a piranna..(sp)
Tori..I got slapped down. Basically told bad idea and could get charged for actively searching for that type of thing
Tori
You’re onery!
Capy,
I like to be onery!
m2c@4:12 when i was young and wild and was in jail my first senatnce was 9mo for drug parifanalia and under the influence i was incarserated, a man also going to court(not incarserated) got probation!!! his charge was a sex crime with his daughter and her friend(both under 12) the syatem works in strange ways always the way of the allmighty $$$..and it sucks!!!
Capy,
Just kind of kidding around. Ask Lorim.
anna,
good thing you left Santa Cruz.. Now the city has a law to put pot use as the lowest priority on the police’s list.
woohoo. Come on honey we are moving to Santa Cruz!
SLAPS BEAST
what? I hear its very nice in the summer time
tori, ive never really smoked pot…..dont like it. i really wish i had someone when i was young that cared and took time out for me, if i had there might not be all my wasted yrs, and i dont mean stoned wasted, i mean wasted like throwin away food wasted!!!
Tori - I know that!
We need a few laughs.
Anna - that is horrible! When I was young, got DUI - $1,000 fine and 3 weekends of community service. Learned my lesson. But, that evil man got probation? That stinks. Under age 12!
anna,
Let bye gones, be byegones….Shoulda, couda, woulda. No sense in fretting over the past. I have done some pretty weird things myself in the past.
C~A I don’t know who will preside but you’re right. Judge Judy is bulldog, no nonsense, don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s raining, beauty is temporary, stupid is forever kind of gal. Damn…she’s in NY (I think)! Has to be a FL. judge!
Rodriquez…?????, maybe???? Don’t know!
Beast,
I am serious about that law. There is a big University on the hill and last spring they had a big pot smoking celebration. The whole town is like a step back into the late 60’s, early 70’s….tie dyed, peasant skirts, etc.
Lots of tree huggers, too.
Beast,
Are you packing your bags?
I’m packing my 32 yrs. old sons bags. He would love it there!!!
He lives with me + my grandson. He (son) is a mama’s boy. I keep cuttin the cord, and he keeps tying it back. UGH!! Left 3 hrs. ago to get pizza for tonight and still gone. Maybe he’s on his was to Santa Cruz….YEA!!!!!!
Tori, nah dont wanna live in the states. Too many chimos
cappy. ive never forgotten that it was so unbelievable, while i comitted a crime against myself i got time and that man got probation, to probably go and harm someone else again!
I think everyone left to go get pizza.
Till tomorrow,
You all have a “pizza my ♥ “
beast when i left santa cruz..drugs were out side my door on every corner you couldnt walk down the street without someone asking what color you were..im white &spanish the only way you know im spanish is if i tell you or you really look at me(accually spanish peopele are white) i rember when they were busting alot of dealers youd walk down the street and hear the loud “boom” them busting open doors…i suppose nice to visit if you know nothing…hell to live there, i accually had to move out of state to get and stay clean..that was in 94..im still terrified to go back there afraid someone i know will be around, someone offering something…people doing drugs and stuff dont like for anyone to do well, or get out of the situation. sorry didnt mean to write a book!!!!!
CAPY 3:40 Cindy’s book?
Let’s HOPE Cindy can write …
(About Caylee)
“I WAS WRONG !” By Cindy Anthony
Sequel
(About Casey)
“I WAS WRONG - AGAIN!” (as usual) By Cindy Anthony
THANK GOD THEY DIDN’T CALL THE BOAT
C.M.A -
Anna - sounds like you have come a long way and that you are blessed to have found your way!
bye Tori ♥♥♥♥♥♥
Heart She has nothing to offer in book.
C~A C.M.A. - don’t make me sick
capy - that was my point…THAT WOULD LITERALLY PUSH ME OVER THE EDGE!
12:33 TORI
You mean Cindy ruining more babies? Minding Lee’s and maybe KC’s too? There are male guards, male lawyers, etc. I would think. Maybe she will “charm” them … with those infamous “charms” of hers. Wonder how many “morning after” pills she took, or abortions she had?? She used sex like I use oxygen.
Looking more and more skanky as the weeks go by, no matter how hard they try to package her. Won’t go into detail here. They ARE reading us.
GO GEORGE .. GO! RUN!!
Free Again (obscure tune)
ANNA I am proud of the lady you have become!
Nice going! : ) : )
Anna ♥
Anna…GOOD FOR YOU!! I know it was not an easy road for you but you made the right decision to get your life together. I’m proud of you and honored to know you even if only on this wonerful blog. HUGS!!
Someone said this week they bet M was the only “mother” at those parties. You bet. Those other girls can do/act what/how they want, they don’t have a drugged baby in the background.
I am constantly surprised tho, by idiots, like the one’s that send a baby murderer money. They would buy Cindy’s books maybe - the morons.
“There’s a sucker born every minute.” P.T. Barnum said that, I think.
Have to do some work now.
bbl
Ok anna come up here. We’ll get you stoned on our Canadian beer! And its legal!
My goodness, you people type so fast, i have been trying to catch up, i hope maggott get’s lifeor DP! i will be happy which ever! Did yall see how old bozo was smiling in court ? made me sick!
Linda…don’t think that bozo realizes how hated he is becoming…he better be careful…his face is very recognizable….people hate maggot and to see him act like a school kid…taunting the state…he is gonna find himself in trouble!
What was that yall were talking about signing? I need to sign, tell me where to go to sign, thanks
Jane on now. Missing children. Natalie H. on now….
Looks good.
what looks good…are they gonna find her remains?
geeeeeez all you peeps with JVM and NG…leave me all awone!
Hi, Linda! If you are talking about the petition to reinstate the death penalty for Maggot, Bmore included it after her screen name. It is http://www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/981428629
If the address does not show in this post then do a Find for Bmore (on this page. You will see the site address in parentheses after Bmore.
Hi, CA! I can only stay a minute right now but the good thing is that with a former client claiming that Hosebag was incompetent and ALL the times he’s screwed up on this case it might add up to enough to scare new clients off and I’m sure he won’t be happy about that.
BTW is Sindee really writing a book? If so that’s where the money for the defense team is coming from in addition to the original $225K that Maggot got for the photos etc. originally.
ANd I am sure that’s what Sindee and Conway were so upset about after the hearing Wednesday. They thought maybe Bozo told the judge and they don’t want anyone to know. Just a guess.
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(www.thepetitionsite.com/petition/981428629)
LINDA: The above posted by BMore - petition for death penalty for Monster.
Im here hon…Lets unleash the lawyers…Curious George from Africa says… Well I think they should string her up to a tree, with no bananas Ok george thanks for that.. Now to washington, I understand you are not a lawyer, what exactly do you do sir? “ well I’ll tell ya, my name is Sparky and I run the hydroelectric plant here, and we got more than enough power to fry that bitch REAL good Ok then back to BNN for the real news
TO M2C,
Hey I had to leave earlier this afternoon. Here is my money theory I mention.
When M started this zanny the nanny a year or so ago, it was back when her friend stop babysitting and her and Jesse had broken up.
Jesse told LE that C would ridicule M for being this couch potato, drop out, money stealing, good for nothing mother. Even mentioning to Jesse that he better have lots of money.
I think at that time M created this personna of herself as a responsible daughter, to keep her parents in check and to stop them from asking or complaining about her actions.
M’s creation of a nanny gave her the power to control the amount of freedom she used against her parents.Going as far as protending to have a nanny watch caylee and a name tag from work that give the impression she was working.
So, as long as M parents beleived that M was working and being a responsible adult they left her alone… The problems started when they realize the money was missing.
While M cleaned out Caylee trust funds and saving acct, along with her piggy bank…After a year of money issues her parents began to suspect M was behind it all. G confronted M and thats when their relationship became unstable.
It was only when C came home from the visitation with the grandparents of M that a fight escalated and money became the topic of fury.
M2C, it may not account for much. But most crimes are committed for a few reasons. Greed being one of them.
followed by
Jealousy
Love
Rage
I have to agree with the attorneys, Zenaida has NO case. Both M and Leevil have both said she is not the woman they are talking about, and her middle name is not fernandez. So why is she even suing?
Oh…did Nana leave on her trip yet???? I hope it’s tomorrow SAT cause that is what i am thinkin but it might have been WEdnesday..
NANA I HOPE YOU HAVE A BLAST! EAT LOT’S!
About zanny…WEll..it’s twisted for sure…but i think that maybe dak is right about her lawyer working in cahoots with LE…but in don’t know if that’s legal?
But she IS the one that maggot targeted..i”m sure of that…and she is the one who was interrogted by police…and that IS her name…
So, in a way…even though they say it’s not her…well what are they gonna say right..they lie too and the thing is…she IS the one that was at sawgrass …the only zanaida…so saying she is not the one is a lie…SHE IS THE ONE REALLY!
CA - I don’t think Morgan is working in cahoots with the prosecution. Please don’t catch “Dakitis” for heaven’s sake - seeing nasty police conspiracies everywhere. LE doesn’t NEED Morgan or this Zenaida at all.
Separate case totally. Bozo got Maggot into this mess as far as having to be deposed etc by counter-suing against Z. And Maggot got herself sued in the first place by - as you say - naming this person as the zanny.
Beast - She’s the only ZFG in Orlando as far as I know, she has a connection to Sawgrass. Leevil never met Zanny so he wouldn’t know her from Mrs. Santa Claus. And of course Maggot would say it’s not THAT one! Because she didn’t want to get sued! Or risk THIS one having a rock solid alibi to prove that she isn’t the one.
I don’t know if she has a case or not but I don’t care. Any misery or trouble that can be brought on Maggot now is fine by me. She and her hosebag brought this on themselves! LOL!
allie @6:37 pm I agree but I don’t know what your comment is in reference to?
ooops, sorry allie. I had not read your earlier post - the theory. I will read it now and I’m sure all will be clear! Sorry about that!
got company bbiw..
MTC - I not catching anything…I just have a very open mind…the questions he asks are sometimes directly related to the criminal case..and it’s really hard to see how it has anything to do with HIS CLIENT…
I am also not calling it an conspiracy…which is why I said…I don’t even know if it’s legal? So the way I was briefly looking at it was from a legal perspective…yes it is seperate case totally but is it..Legally it called something different but pinning maggot for the murder WOULD MOST CERTAINLY CLEAR ZANNY OF ANY WRONG DOING…whAT is odd he can question people for 2-3 hours on ONE person that had nothing to do with it.
allie, I think you’re right. But I think there were lots of fights before the night of June 15 too. That was a BIG one and maybe Sindee threatened more (like taking custody of Caylee and kicking Maggot out) and maybe getting rid of Caylee was more important to Maggot then because she wanted to be with Tony. Or it’s possible Maggot killed Caylee to hurt her mother as much as possible and then ran to Tony to try to have a place to live since she figured she could never go home again.
Her name is not Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales its just Zenaida C Gonzales and Sean Krause proved that.
mtc.. the zenaida suing m does NOT, does NOT, have the middle name fernandez. her name is just zenaida gonzalez
Besides if this was a legitamate lawsuit why only sue for $15,000 why not more.
Thank you Beast
ALmost hate to say this. But I agree with Dak. $15,000 will barely cover legal fees, so what is HE after?
Dak - Ok, the name was not exactly the same …maggot made up the fernandez from the family that lives next to the family beside the woods that caylee was found in…she put that name in there so she could say …she’s not the one…she would never be able to finger someone cause there is NO NANNY…but she did her car model and tags the same …she twists many truths into lies…this is just another twisted lie…that hold some truths within it
There are other Zenaida Gonzales in the orlando are and who knows what there middle name is, it could be Fernandez. And also the description M gave LE does not fit with the Zenaida who is suing and also she did say when shown a picture of that particular Zenaida way before the lawsuit that it wasn’t her, so the only connection is Sawgrass and I’m sorry but that is not grounds to sue. I’m sorry and the car.
C~A I don’t remember reading in any of the documents that she gave the tags.
Besides wasn’t there searches on her computer for Zenaida before Caylee went missing
By the way MTC Dakitis, good one I’ll have to remember that.
Anyone that comes in here and says M is innocent or anything like that you can say hey they have Dakitis.
Gotta go, BBL.
I think we are converting Dak to our way of thinking. Amazing what the truth can do
dak…maggot said about her having connection in NEW YORK ….zanny had new york tags..m would have seen that when she was at sawgrass! Planning her revenge against anyone in her path!
So let me get this straight. Zanaida Fernandez-Gonzolas, the one who, uh, the one, uh..You mean this lady is Zanaida C. Gonzolas?
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well i’ll be damn
Dak - about the searches…I think that was sindee looking for killr and caylee! since she was such a great grandma and never met the girl..didn’t know or see where she was keeping her precious grandaughter and she didn’t even have her number…SO WHERE ELSE DO YOU THINK KRUGER KLAWS WOULD START LOOKIN? GOOGLE!
Different “legal” termination on the level of the case… criminal case ~ civil case
But they are largely intertwined…and messed up together..but seperate…which is what started all of this…
Is it legal for morgan to try to get a slip up in the questions he asks in depos to aid the states case? I think so! Is this the case…I don’t know…ANYTHING IS POSSIBLE!
No kidding….I’ll be damn..
I MEAN…ZAnny…whether it’s this one or not…is the one who the one charged with murder is saying took and killed caylee…le doesn’t think so now…but at one point..they looked at her as a suspect…so whatever…if she gets somethign out of this all the power to her…cause I do believe that maggot has laid eyes on this zanny at least ONCE in her life…that’s all it takes!
Maggot is an opportunist…she takes what and when she can…every opportunity taken…always eyeballin the world for what she can soak em for…even if it’s a name to go along with a FAKE NANNY!@
Hey C~A, I think I missed something. What is the (dot) for? Dept. of Transportation??
lol..I knew no one would get it
MB - GAWD NO…I’M OFF FOR THE WEEKEND LMAO…AT LEAST FROM MY JOB I GET PAID TO DO !
I’m not .com
MB - I used to have .C~A but nobody noticed…so I put (dot) instead…
.ca is Canada
uh………..huh?
Beast…NO IT’S NOT!! C~A told me C~A stood for Caylee Angel!!! Ask her!!
mb…if you go to a website you put..
whatever.com
if you go to a website based in Canada
whatever.ca
so no reports on NG….what’s going on peeps…pickles..you must be really sick
I MISS YOU!
yes it is MB…but its both dont you get it?
Sorta, kinda, well……….o.k.
We thought it would be cute to incorporate her location with her name. But it is very subtle, dont feel bad. I knew it would slip by
Beast, I saw a picture on your web site about a month ago of Bozo made to look like a clown. I don’t know if you did it or not, but it is hilarious!! Wonder if you could post it here on this blog for everyone to see.
Funny!!
Thanks mytwocents;6;20 I will get everone i know to sign petition, thanks!I thnk she is going to say she went to a party got wasted and someone took caylee and took her car and that’s why it was found where ever george and cindy found it inpounded and she was afraid to tell her parent’s!
C~A - On NG: actress Aasha Davis sister, Lesley Davis missing.
Some woman got drunk went into apt and woke up “where’s my baby”. Left baby in car! Baby died from possible exposure, although it was 50 degrees, so they won’t know actual cause for about 6 weeks.
And, of course, discussions on why Baez is depositioning Amy.
I am sorry, but I just can’t get focused on a lot of other things right now. My focus, as is YOURS, ‘justice for Caylee’ and ‘Find Haleigh’.
Looks like we have another AH in the Lesley Davis case. Google and read about it.
Can I call you Dottie?
mb…was not on my website
Ive never done anything with bozo,…just with M…I could though if you want lol
Linda - well now, there’s a new theory! She should have used that. NO NO NO, glad it has worked out this way - cause she is goin’ down.
Monster, from now on point your ‘rock on’ fingers DOWN and think of us signing petitions!
IN the meantime…check out this clown act
http://cayleeanthony.files.wordpress.com/2008/10/1-abaez.jpg
Pickle’s has left the erea, gone to bugtussel usa to kick some a$$ haha!
I hope you feel better!
miss you to, thats what you get for abuseing them poor pig’s, just kidding!
Linda - before this goes to trial, how many people will Bozo blame? How many theories will he propose?
Write them on a stack of cards and before court: “pick a card”
Beast…Boy are we going to argue tonight!!!
When your name was highlighted a while back…remember? Anyway I clicked on it. Saw your picture and an article you had written. It was down the page to the right. Maybe it was something that someone else did but i swear it was on that page I clicked on!
Or maybe I dreamed it.
mb…sorry wasnt me
this is the only story I have done that has pic of bozo
http://djxtreme.wordpress.com/2009/02/21/judicial-porn/
thats it
But I am working on a clown pic for you now as we speak
Capy, I know she is going down! It is only a theory, but didn’t she tell them she ran out of gas when she was taking food over the that guy’s house and the car was picked up and inpounded? iI was trying to remember about that part and when george and cindy pick up the car from inpound it smelled like death?Because i heard cindy say the car did not smell like that and someone put a dead body in there while it was inpound? Is that how it went?
NOW WHAT HAPPEN WITH ALL THAT SMILING!
DID SOMEONE TELL YOU TO STOP!
SORRY TO LATE!!!!!!!!!!!
Linda - yep, that’s how it went. “well maybe someone put a dead body in the car while it was at the tow yard”. That’s the dumbest thing I ever heard.
Anything is possible when it comes to M.
Also, when she begged her mother for one more day (during the 911 call), she was probably going into hiding. I would say ’skip town’, but she didn’t have $$ and C was probably on guard of her cards, checkbook & wallet.
In Florida civil litigation, the amount being sued for is generally a provable damage (loss of income, expenses because of, etc.).
Where the defendant’s bell really can get rung is with the punative damages which can be at the jury’s discretion. That number can be huge.
As to this lawsuit not being legitimate….trust me, if a maggot accused someone with my same first and last name…. who lived on the same street I do…. with the same type of out of state license plate on my car….. of kidnapping and by inference of killing a child, sueing you would be the most polite thing I would do.
YOU ARE RIGHT Capy,
i remember now, cindy said i have already given you 30 day’s!
Who in there right mind would give some one 30 day’s to come up with a child!
That’s another dumbest thing, she got to be the dumbest ever!!!!!!!!!
I am sorry to see people against Zenaida and her lawsuit. This is one person - out of many - whose life was negatively affected by Maggot and you’re against her. Why? Why did the police find her and interrogate her? They did!
She lost her job because of this. She did have a connection to Sawgrass and I know some of you speculated on that and her possible involvement back then. And of course Maggot would say it is not THIS Zenaida (before the suit) because it isn’t! If she said it was this one then it could easily be proven (as it was) that this wasn’t Caylee’s nanny. Suspicion did fall on this woman and considering the changing tides of public opinion it could fall on her again.
I think it’s funny (ironic) that Maggot invents a ficticious nanny and is now being sued by “her.” (Not) THAT’s JUSTICE! LOL!
Of the gazillions of frivolous lawsuits in this country hers does not come close. She has every right to pursue this. She IS suing. Good luck to her! Why criticize?
I wish everyone else who is negatively affected could also sue - like Jesse who Maggot put suspicion on in a jail visit, Amy- who will never get her money back from Maggot, Tim Miller, etc etc.
O.K. Sean..I wish I knew how to do things like that. I think it should be incorporated in your blog name..highlighted all the time!!
Weed is legal in 13 states as use for medicine the Government has now decided that in the state of California that it is fully legal to gro and distibute as long as you are not violating state and federal law…Its about time they decriminilized it there is a huge methephetamine and heroin problem in California…..that they need to attend to…they are going to mainly focus on growers who are growing mass amounts for profit not home medicinal growers…I am not a drug advocate or user but its about time.
MTC…I agree wholeheartedly!! Those who Casey has incrimidated should line up and sue her and the Ants! And there have been many!
Good post!
Pickles - YAAAAA! When my hubby was so sick after chemo, I asked him if he wanted me to get some Marijuana. He said no. You know what… I wouldn’t have known where to go to buy it - ha ha. I probably would have gotten my butt thrown in jail for stopping and asking everyone on the street.
About time!
Does it cure the flu?
Are you feeling any better?
BRAVO MTC
Dakdude3 said,in March 27th, 2009 at 7:23 pm There are other Zenaida Gonzales in the orlando are
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Sawgrass Apartments is a small little apartment complex somewhat off the beaten path on S.Conway Rd…….What would a reasonable person believe the odds are that more than one person with that name had any connection whatsoever with Sawgrass ??…..On top of that there’s the similarities of her accusation with the car ang tags.
The odds of those three things applying to anyone else are astronomical.
She has every right to sue.
ZENAIDA,
You should go for no less then $225,000. I mean come on that’s just a picture or for them!
PAPA - HI and EXACTLY! THE ODDS THAT SHE WASN’T THE ZANNY MAGGOT TARGETED IS NEXT TO ZERO!
I-am going to say it again! ZENAIDA, GO FOR IT! $225,000. Is only a picture or 2 for them!!!!
Remember when M & C were talking during jail interview and C told her the reward for Caylee was up to $225,000 and M replied “My gosh, that’s half my bail!” What an idiot.
Good idea Linda - sell a picture
Capy its very good for chemo patients…I use to gro it for ppl with cancer and aids chemo patients cant normly smoke it though they have to make Cannibutter and cook with it! Yes it can help with the flu with stomach pains and lack of appetite.
L&L’s Papa and Linda and Capy - Thank you and I agree!
So the ants have bottomed out on selling pictures…I mean how many more could they have…so they are gonna become the next kid losrs and funnell money to the clown to pay for their killrs defense…THEY PEOPLE NEED TO ROT IN HELL
Meaning how many more can they have that aren’t already in the public!
Most people, after chemo, can’t put anything (even a sip of water) on their stomach, so my hub would have had to smoke it.
Did you have to have a license to grow it? If, I’m getting out of line with that question, don’t answer. It sounds like you were connected to a clinic or something.
Hello C~A and others as well, I’m in and out of here during the day and evening and normally prefer to read all of your wisdom, but every once in a while something gets my blood going. All of you keep up the good work !!
Capy yes you do have to have a license to gro and use it medically…..In the state of California I was a licensed medical marijuana user/grower/distributor……I was legal to transport it across the state and sale it to dispenseries…but I didnt because the stuff I grew was for very sick ppl…They are all dead now sadly but it did help them….very much….specially the ones who had to do chemo
You are not out of line its legal in 13 states including Oregon..I had licenses to grow transport and distribute throughout the state of California….Im not ashamed of it….
Over at Caylee Daily, there is a picture of M, C and Caylee sitting next to Santa Claus. Caylee has her dolly with her. (the one at the top of this article).
Thank you back, mytwocents 8;50!
Evertime i see or write your name i want to put worth on the end, remember that old saying my two cents worth!
Is that where you came up with your name?
mb here ya go
bozo and company
http://www.geocities.com/djxxxtreme/jbclown1.jpg
I dont know how the patients with chemo used it I just grew it and then took it to them and left….didnt hang around they were sick and It broke my heart I know some of them ate it….maybe that was the aids patients?
Its been a very long time though…..
Papa - LOL guess my bloods always boiling cause I sleep here!…LMAO YOu keep up the good work too…I love reading your post! Stay with us!
Why is your blood boiling???
Pickles…Pot brownies…yup..been there done that…and ohhhhh boy was I done….
Hey Pickle’s ! are you better?’
Pickles - you are a good person ♥
Good nite.
Nancy G rerun on now.
http://www.geocities.com/djxxxtreme/jbclown1.jpg
Pickles you still sick ? Have you seen my missing you posts?
creepy picture beast..match made in hell! he is one fugly dude…even dressed as himself.. lol
Blood boils over this case and haleighs…
cause i am always here !
Hi (DOT C~A ) lol .ca
leaving tomorrow ,
before i say G’night it doesn’t look like we have any more news On Haleigh ? or any of the scummings . oh I mean the Cummings
MB 2:00
Hi! Sure. That’s what I thought. Her initial “light bulb moment”? After the 31 day stall, she FINALLY REALIZED she is getting NOWHERE with her skank…
But wait, I know she will give Casey a CHANCE to explain… I’m sure she will have a logical reason for EVERYTHING. Always does, thru C’s eyes.
DUH!
I’m Beginning To See The Light … (tune)
NANA - Oh I am so Glad I didn’t miss you!
BON VOYAGE! Don’t worry about eating fruit…I remember you said that…EAT LOT’S OF DA GOOD STUFF…YOUR ALLOWED..YOU ON VACATION!
Stay safe..we will miss you …xoxox
nana..stay away from uncharted dessert isles, and any boats that has a skipper, and a mate named Gilligan!
unless you want loooooong vacation LMAO
Thank you .. we will spend 2 days in Fort lauder dale Paul wants to see a little of the coast of Florida another cruise , enough is enough ,
neevr made any sense to me…How many deserts have islands? bling
I hope we will have some good news for you when you get back…
(nana will be sneakin off to the the cruise liners “passenger” computers…to sneak peeks at the cases)
Leave us a note if you do NANA!
If I see Georg in his Canoe we will run ‘em over
BEAST-9;05pm Thats look’s just like him and kc, how did you do that!!!!!I would just die if he came into court with a red nose!!LOL
absolutely , if I can get to use a computer
I hear there is a deck sunbath topless
LMAO@nana…
Linda…I has many a talent
tooo bad Kcee cant go sailing with Mom & Dad she must be beside her self LOl
Aye C~A im on the mend….I will be there for the show! I have been missing j00ooh too! You’ll always be my DORK! ♥
Capy ♥ Thank YOU!
nite all
Ya that pic is pretty creepy is that the clown from IT? PennyWise?
any way G’night all, i will try to keep in touch , Take Care
Gnite Beast! Ya its late there…like 10:30…im almost gonna be turning into a pumpkin too here soon!
said Linda, good nite all!!!!
Gnite Nana…Linda!! You two? Gnite!
CAPY thanks for that picture. Sure THING KC is pregnant. A white sweater pulled over that round watermelon and tied, isn’t going to hide the GIRTH of her - moron! Even Jessie Grund’s father knew it. His wife had children. Anyone who is normal would know it.
So she thought Lee would think Caylee was a virgin birth? She thought he would buy that, she never had sex? Probably been thru 50 guys by the time that picture was taken. I heard she would discuss who she wanted to have sex with that night with her current girlfriends. She just lives IN THE DAY … figures I can take care of tomorrow - tomorrow. HOW SICK IS THAT!!!!
God KC’s illness is very potent! And - Cindy’s too!
“The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree …” BOTH NUTS!
Something is seriously wrong with the head of Cynthia Marie Anthony. I think her NURSING LICENSE should be pulled!! She won’t need it anymore anyhow, just sit in Caylees old room/OFFICE - and TCB.
‘nite all. Have to do some things now.
Hello to all my friends!! Everyone is gone but just wanted to say….I’m back! Lost……but back! Have missed quite a bit so will just try to pick up where everyone is at. Nite……will catch u laters!
Gudday my l♥velies there are rumours afoot that Kronk’s g/f works in the jail & overheard Bozo & Casey talking about where Caylee was buried…I would like to see some documented proof about this…LE has cleared him..{I hope they are right..I like Roy & think he deserves the reward money.}
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Lets see if I can copy & paste
mytwocents I ♥ said,in March 27th, 2009 at 6:07 am Morning, All!
Hi, Jill! I am sorry that I missed you. I think you asked yesterday if there was a mistrial would Maggot get out of jail? (This is the answer I wrote yesterday and accidentally erased somehow).
Let’s take another example. If a mistrial was granted because ALL or most of the evidence was ruled inadmissable then the state would not have enough grounds to charge the person a second time and the person could go free.
But if the mistrial was granted for some other reason, and the state still had enough evidence to warrant charging the person again, then the person might not even make it out of the courtroom after the mistrial. The prosecution could re-arrest them right there.
Then the whole ball game starts all over with bail to be decided by a judge etc (probably at a hearing another time).
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Many thanks for this M2C I sure hope you are right {mind you I don’t want a mistrial but where Bozo is concerned anything can happen.
Beast..gudonya for trying to go undercover..their response told you where to “go” or not as the case may be.
I don’t think C&G are paying Bozo..I think ABC/Disney or the likes are paying him for exclusive rights.
Anna - hugs to you for getting a new life..you have done very well!
♥HUGE HUGS♥ to all those who have lost loved ones to that rotten big C..stay strong..our prayers are with you AND with all those who are still suffering from any ailment.
I’ll be back in about an hr..till then xxx
Hi everyone! doing an early morning drive by..
LIVER it figures you would be in here when I am not
lol
i won’t be back till late tonight…
good to see you back pickles…
Hi, Jill and XOXOXOXO! Good moring, if it don’t stop raining here we are all going to float away it’s 4 day’s now,i want the sun to come back. I live in south ala, we can have very bad weather here! It was raining so hard my husband got up and set up half the night!Where are you driving toxoxoxoxo?
Hey Jill, i have got to learn how to use those face’s look’s so cute, little face with eye’s rolling around!
Yippee…bin refreshing for the past hour & nothing happening..logged off then on again & found you…good morning XOXOXO and Linda.
Linda put your mouse over the smiley face on my post & it will give you the code how to do it.. : roll : {take out the spaces =
Ask Pickles to give you a link so you can make all the faces.
Give it a try now..I will hang around for another 10 mins then must go to bed…
Linda I know where there is a boat..you could make better use of it than G&C - hi!
Here is another face : oops : {take out the spaces =
}…wont work unless you leave a space before and after typing the code in.
Yoo Hoo Linda…where are you
iM HERE I WAS LOOKING AROUND ON ANTHER SITE!
Cool…try the faces now…I will hang on until they work then must go to bed xxx
YOU KNOW I DON’T UNDERSTAND, WE HAVE NOT HEARD ANYTHING ON HALEIGH CASE IN ABOUT 2 DAY’s now?
Jill i tryed, its not working, maybe you can help me later, i don’t want to keep you up!
Watch
Geraldo today he will be talking about Haleigh.
Please ask Pickles for the link to all the smiley faces..maybe I confused you..{confused myself - hi!}
Must get some zzzzzzz….see you all in the morning xxx
Thanks jill, go get somezzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz’s talk at you later friend!
To make fun smiley faces go to:
codex.wordpress.org/Using_Smilies
copy/paste that link there in your browser.
Scroll down the page a bit to this title:
What Text Do I Type to Make Smileys?
right below that title is a chart with all the smileys and the combinations to create them
Morning, Linda! It’s frustrating when the news slows down on a case but I’d much rather hear nothing than a bunch of made-up, prejudiced, fictional crap - that serves certain people’s personal agendas - and that just wastes everyone’s time.
I know but i got a feeling they have been on to something and did’nt want it to get out! And i also think it has to do with misty? what do you think?
Morning Linda and MTC..
I’m kinda glad for the lull right now. Gives us all a little breather. However, I would like to see more progress in the Haleigh case. I just wonder if we ever find out what happened to her?
Hi, Linda! I didn’t mean specifically the Haleigh case or anyone involved in that. I meant blogs too - that make up rumors.
But it’s possible that LE knows something but is not ready to release it. Gosh knows they can’t be expected to tell the public every move they make! LOL! So we can only hope that things are progressing behind the scenes. I’m a little afraid they are not, though. Poor Haleigh.
Morning mb~ mytwocents, and everone we have had very bad weather here the last 4 day’s rain rain rain, im sick of it, think C=G WOULD LET ME HAVE THERE BOAT FOR A FEW DAY’S! LOL
Bad storms coming thru central KY today as well. I like rainy days. I know, I’m strange. It’s calming to me….but NOT with the strong storms coming thru!!
Mytwocents, I know think police made a lot of mistake’s on this one, poor little haleigh I pray she is alright!
M~B,I like rain to and we needed it ! Everything turning green here, we are already having to run the air, to hot for this time of the year!
yoo hoo, where did you guys go?
mytwocents, was it you who gave me the blog for me to sign pettition, i went to site, could not pull up,some kind of problem will try again today!
OTtawa Sun: TORONTO — A baby boy was found dead in an SUV at a Mississauga office building yesterday and his mother is now charged with his murder — a killing that even veteran homicide investigators are having a tough time coming to grips with.
The little boy’s mom, who is alleged to have made the 911 call that led to the grisly discovery, was taken into custody at the scene and later appeared emotionless in Brampton court, where she will reappear Monday morning.
O.K Im going back to bed, talk later!
O.K Im going back to bed, talk later!
Good Morning All……A few thoughts, then I’ve got to go to the office for a while…
Haleigh Cummings lived in an environment that was a recipe for disaster. If and when we ever find out what happened to that beautiful little girl, I believe DRUGS will be the unerlying cause. Her entire surroundings were steeped in a drug culture.
I think it was yesterday, Pickels posted Ron Cummming’s criminal record containing numerous drug related charges. Every relative’s face I’ve seen on T.V. looks spaced out to me.
Mabey Misty is part of this, but if she knows what happened to Haleigh, you can bet Ron knows as well. I don’t know if it was a drug deal gone bad…a drug dealer who was also a pervert…or careless behavior by them brought on by drugs….but in that kind of environment, that little girl had no chance.
I keep clinging to the hope that mabey, just mabey someone loved her enough to get her out of that mess to protect her.
That’s probably just wishful thinking on my part.
Morning, CA!
Believe it or not just a week or so ago the major paper near where I live had a huge feature article about parents who have (supposedly unintentionally) left their infants in the car (and the infants died).
The article had interviews with some of those people - several who live in this area - and their photographs! If I had done that UNINTENTIONALLY to my cat, dog, bird, mouse whatever (nevermind a child) they’d have to visit the graveyard to get an interview with me.
Part of the article talked about the psychology of it, how it could happen accidentally etc. BS!
One infant had just been adopted after years and years of trying to conceive and trying to adopt. The father had a long commute from home to work and was supposed to drop the infant at child care on the way. But he parked at work, went in and at the end of the day (a HOT summer day!) found the infant dead. Unbelievable!
One thing I do not think the shrink who was interviewed mentioned was the possibility of hidden resentment on the parent’s part - for the trouble having a child had caused. I think that is a possibility. In any case it completely baffles me how anyone can do that.
Is that woman you mentioned claiming it was an accident?
L&L’s Papa, I agree. Wasn’t there another case a few years ago - another (Florida?) girl about 7 - 10 yrs old taken from her bed and it took them weeks (at least) but they determined it was a creepy OLD sex offender who lived nearby. He had put her in a garbage bag and buried her alive. That’s the kind of environment - people etc - that surrounded poor Haleigh, too. I think that guy got the DP. Not sure.
Okay about the Haleigh case. IF Haleigh was taken that night when Jr was sleeping there too, why wasn’t HE taken? Possibilities include that there was just one kidnapper who could not handle two children (but intended to keep or sell the child), the kidnapper was a sex pervert who was only interested in girls; the kidnapper had a reason to get rid of ONLY Haleigh. Why? She knew something? She was a nuisance? She was the apple of Ron’s eye and therefore competition for someone (?? Miste-coli?) I really wonder why only Haleigh? The reason could point directly to who did it.
Morning L&L’s Papa - I agree that Haleigh’s environment and the drugs there contributed to this. I don’t mean to poke holes in your (Our) fondest hopes but I’m afraid that she was not taken for her own protection. She is too identifiable. Not just her looks but her disability - which requires care and medicine.
They’d have to keep her hidden her whole life and I don’t know where they’d get medical care for her. TOO SAD!
morning papa…so true!
MTC - ottawasun.com/News/National/2009/03/28/8913711-sun.html
They really didn’t say much about the Mother but that her story changed and was emotionless!
Here’s the article so you can read it all!
CA- Sounds like Maggot! Gosh knows she never seemed upset about misplacing Caylee.
I am wondering if any of you have tried to map out Casey’s movements using her cell phone pings? I am trying to figure out where she went right June 16 and 17th using information released in the docs… also do we have any idea of the date when M dumped body? It would be interesting to compare her cell phone pings on that date although Surburban Drive is located so closely to Ant’s home and it seems she went home regularly when “coast was clear”….
Jo,
Somewhere in the documents that were released recently showed the pings, but it got very confusing.
Tori - Yes, so confusing!! I took notes from the Docs and noted # of minutes Casey spent in each location, and then I went to Google Maps and plugged in the locations…. guess it is a good thing they have experts figuring this out - BUT does anyone know what day we think she disposed of body?
Whether we can find or understand the ping information or not, trust me, LE has it all nailed down.
Jo - A lot of people think the body spent some time in the Ants’ backyard, the car and then was dumped. Possibly by the 20th.
Because the dogs hit on places in the backyard and the trunk had evidence of decomposition too. I THINK it was June 18 that a neighbor saw her car backed into the garage which she neve did - and she borrowed a shovel from him so maybe that’s when she put the body in the back yard OR took it away from there.
I don’t believe she buried the body in the back yard. Do you think it was in or under the playhouse? That would be a bit risky.
Jo, From all those pings, she seemed to be here there and everywhere at times.
It had to be somewhere in the backyard at some point, Tori, because two cadaver dogs hit on several places there. And I have no other explanation for why maggot borrowed a shovel.
Like she was really gonna do gardening? I don’t think so.
As far as risky goes, I’ve stopped giving Maggot too much credit. She was lucky not smart.
I did post both Ron and Crystal’s criminal record yesterday….and I will tell you what…..his is way worse@!
Maybe she borrowed the shovel thinking she’d bury the body in the woods but once she got there decided she did not want to spend that much time alone in that snake infested place and just left the bag and returned the clean shovel. THere is no one who can tell us if she did not leave the house during the hour she had the shovel. THat man may not have noticed that and the woods were only a block away. Would take five minutes.
Mytwocents,
I agree with that. Lucky, for awhile……
Thank you, Ms Pickles! It’s good to see you up and about again!
Hope you are ALL recovered!
And he said the shovel was clean
Blahh….they made me take vicoden….something I would NOT ever normly do at all…..I only took 1/2 of one at a time and they really really have upset my tummy! I had extremely bad muscle pains…..ughhh….I would be fully recovered……but the tummy ache from the Rx wont pass! Blahh…..Im good to go though!♥
The shovel was clean….I wonder if the shovel was to pick up the handles of the laundry bag and drop it onto the trash bags?
That’s right, Tori, and I don’t think forensics found any signs of dirt etc on the shovel. So she may have borrowed it and either decided against using it or found she didn’t need it.
What I don’t know is the minimum time a body would have to be somewhere for the decomp scent to stay there - the car must have been just awful - so probably more time in the car.
Pickles,
I took that once after surgery and stared at the ceiling for 2 days.
Pickles, maybe you are allergic to that Rx?
If so maybe allergic to all codeine? Or maybe it would have been better to take that Rx with food. So that’s what upset your tummy not the flu/bug?
Pickles @ 10:12- BRILLIANT! I’ve been wondering how she’d feel handling such a stinking messy bag. That’s a very good thought!
mytwocents,
I have never smelled a dead body, thank goodness. And I know Fl is wicked hot in the summer, so that car must have reeked.
That’s right, Tori. And with the heat it may not have taken long for the smell to develop and stay.
I wonder why no-one at Amscot noticed the smell. Then again, wasn’t the car parked near a dumpster or am I wrong about that?
You know, this is one of the things to add to that list I’m making - something I just cannot get over. They have not seen or heard Caylee in a month and their crazy-ass daughter is MIA (only heard on phone - could have been kidnapped for all they knew) and George drives home a car reeking of death and then goes to work. So exactly how does that qualify him to look for missing children? What a moron huckster he is.
Tori, correct. The car was parked right next to the dumpster at Amscot. No one had to go near it to know it had been there - illegally -for days. Maybe no one went near it. Maggot didn’t let Tony near it when he picked her up there.
I bet M dumped the bag in the woods because she couldn’t find a dumpster that was hidden enough for someone not to see. Or in her warped mind, she was putting Caylee “close”. I wonder how many times she went and checked.
Jill said at 4:08 am rumors are that Kronk’s girlfriend works at the jail. I wonder if there is any truth to that?
Hey guy’s ,
I have been over on caylee daily blog reading about the text messages and document’s. Back in jan-22 2009, casey joked about drugging caylee to sleep.
The state attorney’s office has report’s also contained text message’s from friend’s, surprised that she never told any of them casey was missing! Y wouldn’t u tell me of all people?wrote boyfriend Anthony Lazzaro, why would you lie to me thinking she was fine!
Said Baez declined comment!
NOW WHAT ABOT HER FRIEND’S BOZO?
Tori, I am not going to pay any attention to any more rumors about Kronk until something is proven and in the legit news or released docs.
That man has been thru enough - all because he’s the one who found the body which is what we’d all been praying for.
Tori @ 10:23am Again I don’t want to give Maggot the “credit” for being so emotional or thoughtful or even remorseful to put Caylee’s remains “close.” That was the only place she knew, the place where the neighborhood kids buried or dumped all their dead pets. Where else would she put THIS dead pet? Maggot is not bright and not even cleverly imaginative and not a good liar. That’s where they always dumped their dead. Nothing clever or emotional about it. It was the first and last place she thought of - quick too. Eff her.
Tori….stared at the ceiling for 2 days
yikes…It was the flu that upset my tummy but the stupid Rx they gave me didnt help any either
Thats what I think maybe she used the neighbors shovel to pick up the handles of the laundry bag and drop it onto the garbage bags
I think a lot of people quite naturally want to imbue Maggot with feelings similar to the ones we normal people have. Maggot does not have those feelings. A sociopath does not.
THey are incapable of it. However it is SO difficult for us to believe that we keep trying to make what she does seem normal. It is not.
OH YA DID YOU ALL HEAR JESSIE GRUND IS DOING A BLOG TALK RADIO SHOW TODAY?? ABOUT ABUSE…AINT THAT MAGGOTS EX…THE ONE SHE DUMPED CUS HE LOVED CAYLEE!
I heard somethng about Kronk’s girlfriend on NG last night but unsure what to make of it….like did the gf give Kronk the tip where to find body???
I also think M could have washed off the shovel. I know there was a patch of disturbed dirt somehwere in the back yard like she tried to dig, and then didn’t. And didn’t the dogs hit in the playhouse? Body was there for a few days until she got rid of it in the woods on Suburban Dr.? Good thing they didn’t have a pet dog. And I am guessing that their yard was fenced in because of their pool and no other anumal could get in?
Good glory! Pain meds for the flu? Never heard of such. Or did the flu cause you pain in some way? THat’s a serious pain med.
XOX told me about it..
Pickles,
Such a gross thought…..
Mytwocents,
Kronk has been through enough. I bet he wishes he had never found that skull.
I had horrendous muscle aches and pains….like worse then you could ever imagine….ughhh……I will stick to aspirin thank you…Dr.’s dont know everything!
Jo - They do have pet dogs. Two of them. I’m pretty sure they lived there during all of this. And they’ve had dogs in the past.
Jo,
They had 2 pet dogs. They got the dogs from an unprofessional breeder, the woman who just “happned to be the one who claims she spoke to Caylee at the airport”! Gosh, what a movie we could make of this.
tomorrow night too on blogger news is a show at 8pm the guest star is going to be richard grund, jesses father, this is not being aired by simon or jan, another person is airing this… tomorrow night at 8pm, go to bnn and check the times… just like ours only run by someone else… victims of abused or something like that
Actually its Richard Grund Jesse’s dad
The defense will do whatever it can to discredit prosecution witnesses, including Kronk. The harder they go after a witness indicates that they believe the witness can damage their case. I worry they will try to ruin KioMarie, the childhood friend who used to help bury Casey’s childhood pets in the wood where Cayless was found (and whose story appeared in the National Enquirer). Watch who the Defense goes after…
Pickles - I had the same kind of pain when I was sick in Feb. I’m going to have my Dr call your Dr. Mine must be a sadist!
I think for a limited time you can take 4 advil 4 times a day WITH meals/food for that kind of pain. Probably not as effective as Vic but better than suffering the side effects that you have from Vic. Just be sure not to take Advil like that for long. Will really cause tummy aches.
Pickles,
where do I go to find that?
Jo your right there was patch of disturbed earth in the back yard~ I totally forgot about that!
MTC @8:01
I think the case you are refering to is the Jessica Lunsford case. John Cooey was the guy who took her from her bed in the middle of the night, abused her, then buried her alive in the back yard of the trailor where he was staying with his sister. I think it was across the road from the Lunsfords. I don’t remember if he got the DP. He sat coloring on paper or a coloring book during the trial to appear crazy. A defense tactic that didn’t fly. I think that is the case your thinking about.
Jo @ 10:44 - You are right about who will be major targets of the defense. I’m afraid a lot of innocent people - KioMarie being one of the nicest - who will be hurt by all this. Damn Maggot and Hosebag!
Have to go for a bit. BBL
I cant wait to hear KioMarie’s testimony about how kc use to bury her pets on the Chicksaw Trails bagged up decorated with stickers….CANT WAIT
Tori….hold on I will find the link!
Pickle’s im glad you are better we thought you went to bugtussel to kick some a$$! LoL
mb @ 10:47 am - Once again mb to the rescue of my lousy memory! You are right. That’s who I was thinking of! But good idea. Should we send coloring books to Maggot to keep her occupied during hearings and the trial? LOL!
If the Ants had dogs, then she couldn’t have hidden the body too long in the back yard. That is why she must have kept the body hidden in the trunk. Maybe she dragged the body outside (kept it hidden in the payhouse) until she could bury it, than thought twice about it (too hard to dig? Too obvious if found?) and eventually dumped the body in the woods.
Pickles at the time the police described it as a depression in the earth. That would happen when something had been buried there and then dug up and removed.
JILL, Said Geraldo would be talking to day but she didn’t say where?
I cant find the advertisement for that radio show..I will email XOX and have her shoot me the link!
Linda….Nope I didnt go to Buggtussel Hollor….Nope I dont go to them kinds of places…..I dont like chimo’s!
Thanks Pickles…. I sent Jan a note asking her to send you my e-mail address.
Pickles,
Off topic…. Where is Lilred (ju ju butt)?
mytwocents; They said roots had grow up into her bones, so they thought it had been in that one spot the whole time, I think she got scared when daddy got to close, wonder why he didn’t smell it went she opened the trunk? Any way she just ran down the street, made sure no one was looking and just threw her over!
LOOK AT HER, SHE IS NOT SORRY ONE BIT, G+C=L WERE NEXT!!!!
Mytwocents,
I just read the NG transcript from her show and it is Padilla that is starting the rumor about Kronk’s gf…. also he is attacking Grund. What an a$$
You would think she would place Caylee further back in the woods. She may have tho, and the flooding waters brought her closer to the street, when the water receeded. OR maybe there were lots of snakes and varments slithering around so she dropped her sorta close to the road and threw limbs and leaves, and other trash on the bag so to hide it.
Tori….Where are you getting NG transcripts??
There lead PI DOM CASEY HAS HIRED A CRIMINAL DEFENSE ATT’Y, NOW THAT HE HAS TO ANWSER QUESTION’S
Hi, Linda@ 11:25 - I was talking about the little bit of time that the body may have been buried in the ants backyard causing the cadaver dogs to hit on areas there - where LE spotted a depression.
And yes I think the bag must have been in the woods a long time.
Did PID (short for PI Dominic) hire one when the police interviewed him? If not that’s strange that he’d get one now. Is this for Hosebag to depose him for the criminal case or Morgan to depose him for the civil suit (ZG)?
I’m getting who’s doing what for which case confused right now.
Tori - NG needed to kick Padilla to the curb long ago. At the very beginning he had some support from me but he ran his mouth and my support into the ground long ago.
mytwocents, Do you think she died at home?How could the ants stay there?
Linda, the ants are on another planet mentally.
I don’t know how they have done or said anything so far. How can they even talk to Maggot let alone defend her all this time? It’s insane.
mb http://www.cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/
mytwocents; He never showed up, he was suppose to go in as soon as Hoover left out, he was a no show! now he has denfence att’y?
mb,
did you get the link at 11:32
No Tori..It’s not showing up here. I had this problem before. Wonder why??
Hey is the nancy grace link showing at 11:32
Linda, there was some talk that he could be charged with contempt of court. But help me - is this Bozo’s interview or Morgan’s (for Zenaida)? I am confused.
BTW - If was in Strickland’s court i’d be cited for contempt - just because they were allowing BB to LITERALLY PRACTICE law! LOL!
Sometimes links don’t show up for safety sake - in moderation sometimes. Take the http and www off and try it.
If Caylee was killed on the 15 or 16 the body would have had to be disposed of within 3 days of death. At day 3 of decomposition there would have been massive amounts of body fluids that double bagging would not have prevented. And to wait any longer then that there would have been a decomposition disaster in kc’s car.
I’m with Tori about Caylee not being buried in the yard. Perhaps she thought about it and removed Caylee from the trunk and took her to the back yard before changing her mind. This could have left traces of decomposition. She borrowed the shovel and then decided it was to much work, or to obvious.
mtc…I too think she was dumped in the 18 when the neighbor saw her back her car into the garage. Any longer then that the trunk of kc’s car would have been unexplainable.
26 Stages of Death
Exert….
Moment of Death:
*The bladder and bowels empty
After 24 hours:
*There is the strong smell of rotting meat
*The face of the person is essentially no longer recognizable
After 3 days:
*The gases in the body tissues form large blisters on the skin
*The whole body begins to bloat and swell grotesquely. This process is sped up if victim is in a hot environment, or in water (At this stage the body can actually explode)
*Fluids leak from the mouth, nose, eyes, ears and rectum and urinary opening
I will try again
cnn.com/CNN/Programs/nancy.grace/
I think it’s possible that Maggot left the body in the back yard first - then went to get it and it was beginning to stink etc. Then the car and then the woods. Only because i’m not sure how long the body (and at what stage) would have to be in the yard to leave enough smell for the police dogs. Anyway we know it was in all three places at some point.
mb,
I posted it again. If it didn’t show up, google nancy grace then scroll down to the transcripts. There are a lot of cute pictures of her twins, too
Tori - it showed up @ 11:38 for me okay. Thank you
Oh O.k. Thanks Tori!!
Lori,
I am ill. (only kidding) I wonder if she ever peeked in the bag. Gawd! Once we left some oyster shells in a black plastic bag in our outside garbage can in the heat for 2 days. The smell was so bad we had to throw away the whole can
Darn,
Did m clean up the mess? Or throw away the diaper?
mytwocents; it was morgan’s for zenaida, but morgan got into alot of detail about this case with hoover? Questions about the wood’s and cindy holding hand’s, and george say’s him and cindy would not be together when this was over!
bbl
Dominic and cindy holding hand’s right in front of george!
Tori ♥ A neighbor I once had was moving and wanted to take his dog that he had buried in the back yard. And OMG….the smell could have been bottle as chemical warfare. It was horrid. The body farm said the smell is 10 time worse then animal decompostion….I can not even imagine.
P.S. I emailed Jan and asked her to send you my email addy
Mytwocents; Did you watch deposition with Jim hoover and Morgan?
lORI; THAT IS ONE SICK BITCH! she need’s her stupid brain’s knock out!!!
SORRY but that make’s me so mad, to think she did that to her own child! little caylee! That witch, i hpoe she gets DP!
I have smelled a decomposed body before….and I was around 15 feet away. I can’t tell you how horrible it was. To this day, as I sit here, the smell is still in my brain. When they say it’s a smell you will never forget, they are right!
‘Morning!
LINDA I think Geraldo is on Fox. He is on I think at 7:00PM PST and again at 10:00PM PST, maybe more.
PICKS I cannot take Vicodin nor can my hubby. Upsets our stomach too. Hate it!! Won’t TAKE IT now, I learned the hard way.
LORI thanks for your post. I saw KC had this obsession with SKULLS shortly after Cayalee “went missing”. Nice. She is obviously SO SICK, it would be HER that puts a heart sticker on the duct tape over her mouth. I am wondering if she had duct tape over every opening … thinking they all would leak?
M~B,I hope it was not someone you knew?That is so sick, I think im going to be ill! That bitch that witch to hell with he a$$! fOR GIVE ME LORD!
Lorie, thanks for all the info you are posting, very helpful. Much appreciated!
Linda, no need to be sorry. It’s really hard to believe that anyone, let alone someones own mother could do something so heinous.
mb, I can only imagine what the smell is like. I wonder if the fact that the body was smelling phased kc at all.
Heart, morning ♥ I read somewhere that skulls are a major infatuation of most murderers. It must be they’re sick obsession with death.
Jo, ♥ You’re very welcome ♥ To me Forensics is so fascinating.
No Linda…Believe it or not, it was in a mauseleum. Probably 75 bodys in there. Not all bodies are embalmed if there is a quick internment. Bodies that are embalmed takes around 5-6 yrs. or so before they start to seriously decompose. It was a hot day in Texas, and I was there for my Aunts funeral. When we walked into the mauseleum (no doors in the front or back of the building), you could smell the bodies decomposing BEHIND CONCRETE/MARBLE VAULTS!! That’s how pungent it is. I had to step out into the open air. Couldn’t stay in there. It was beyond sickening.
I heard , technically you can plead someone not guilty if you know they are not!!!!!! so long—–boszzzzzzzzzBS!
I SAID THAT WRONG! UPSET NOW Anyway, i heard technically you can not plead someone not guilty if you know they are guilty!!!SO long bozooooooooooooBS! now!
M~B, I could have not stayed in there, i would have been so sick! How did you stand it ? Was the funeral inside? I have watched DR G, i don’t know how she does what she does! I know someone has to do it, thank GOD IT’S NOT ME! I have a sick just thinking about it!
Dr. G. says she just doesn’t smell it. She is so devoted to her job that I guess her mind won’t let her get grossed out by the odors. Caylee had to be pretty “ripe” in a very short amount of time.
They say the smell in the trunk of Casey’s car is still strong. Don’t think it will ever go away..
Omg, That poor little darling! God bless her sweet little bone’s! I no she is with God and that’s all that matter’s now! Except one little thing! What do we do with the sick witch?
Don’t know if I ever mentioned this before. I know it was in PA and suspect other states too. Anybody know?
If a lawyer has a case, or cannot take it for any reason, IF he “forwards” it, to another lawyer, he GETS 1/3 “Forwarding Fee” for doing NOTHING other than forwarding the case to the new lawyer. Doesn’t even have to do any of the work. I am correct on this? Anybody know? I know it WAS that way in PA.
So, if BOZO is in this position, HEAD HONCHO - hiring others, etc. he would get the 1/3 Forwarding Fee from all of them then if the same holds for FL? Nice isn’t this. OH I forgot, all are doing it FREE - pro bono.
Just because KC is SUCH an important person, AND a STAR!
The same thing she did to Caylee would suit me just fine..
Got to run to the store be back later, where did everone slip away to?
Heart, I can’t answer your question. It’s a good question tho!!!!
heart I know nothing about a forwarding fee but it sounds funny. Easier for a client to fire the old attorney (who keeps what he earned if anything) and hire a new one. And it doesn’t seem right for attornies hired by him to have to pay 1/3 - when they could be hired by the new attorney. I don’t know. I’m sure they’ve figured out some way for ALL of them to take as much money from the client as possible.
I don’t know why this subject came up. THere is no chance that Hosebag is going to forward this case. Skank may fire him and hire someone else if she wants but I doubt it - if she hasn’t done it by now.
Got to go for a while. BBL
11:13 TORI…
Oh boy. Just think, C and G are fighting HARD to get KC off.
IF they did, (where ELSE would she live but with them), bet within 5 years at least C would be killed by her. Her appetite is whetted. She has crossed the line.
No matter what they do to her, she is looking like all the other female baby murderers that preceeded her. Good. I’ll NEVER tell them what has to be done … to help IT. Have a few ideas… more than one.
It’s amazing now that it is all unfolding the amount of stress IT had to be under. How fitting. Many prisoners “get Religion” when in jail. I hope she DOES, and a light bulb just … might … go off. Maybe not. She just might be too sick. I wonder IF she believes her own tales?
I see what Paddy meant. She takes one or two facts, then writes a James Michner novel around them! Like 1000 pages or more?
MB … I guess maybe the “Forwarding Fee” is the same in other states? Probably …
MB
Some bad storms coming thru TX too. Have a good friend down there, Beaumont. They get slammed all the time and flooded. So sad. I wish he could move, but a Professor and wants to work till at least 65 or more.
Lower tip of TX … He said he NEVER saw/heard such THUNDER crashing in his whole life! Texas boy.
Boy this darn global WARNING …
Tori I havent seen LilRed in a long time
Lori? Is that you Lorim? ♥
♥ Pickles…Dat B Me ♥ I lost the M
Tori I cant find the link to the radio show? I emaild XOX im hoping she will get it and shoot me the link!
Heart….I just sent you an e-mail. You still here??
Dats cool♥
HI MB!! Great.
Working in this room … step away sometimes to do things.
I will go back to email and look … : )
MTC back home it worked this way. If a lawyer was overloaded with cases, or not their area of “expertise”, after *talking* to the client who contacted them, or if they didn’t think it was a “good case”, they (the lawyer) can forward it to another lawyer and collect their forwarding fee. Nothing to do with firing at all. The lawyer forwards it, never a client. Clients can I think, hire and fire, you are right, and pay them for their work - done. They could tell the client they are bringing in another lawyer with “expertise”, don’t know how they do it, or what they SAY to the client. You are right … nothing to do with the client, firing, etc.
I was just thinking, WHO is the Ring Master here, who can hire the Experts, (lawyers) and hire the Drs. too? Good ol’ BOZO. Forwarding fees?? That sounds like a nice perk to me. BOY did he fall into something great, didn’t he??
Just think, a referral from another inmate! Bet he is handling HER case free now!!! But who knows, with him… money gruba jerk.
So, Heart are you suggesting that the lawyers bozo has hired have given him kickbacks? I just don’t get it - the relationship “forwarding” has to anything that’s gone on in this case.
Lori,
I like the Lorim. I didn’t know who you were. ♥
bbl It is 90 degrees here and I am putting a pot roast in the oven? How dumb can I be?

Sounds GOOD Tori….and I’m hungry!!
Sometimes in the summer, I fix chicken and dumplings. It takes standing over the hot stove for quite a while. Gets to hot outside much less staying inside slaveing over a hot stove!
Next week should bring us a new release of documents. I am sure Bozo is obligated to go over these with M. She probably loved the last one seeing all the skanky photos of herself. New evidence is probably like a diary for her and she enjoys her diaries.
Capy,
I think maybe her twisted mind says to herself, Is that Me?
Capy, I had not thought about that. I can’t imagine any lawyer having the patience to go over that much material with that skank. And listening to her laugh and rage. It would make me physically ill. You are right. They are probably like her precious diaries - all about ME!
Heart,
Wow, you could be right! The lawyers are paying Bozo’s law firm for the publicity for themselves. Right On! Look at them all. If this case is won, they get recognition. They don’t need the $$$$, just the fame.
Hi Tori & Mytwocents - ♥
Sorry to be all over the place on my topics here, but been reading your posts and light bulbs go off in my head - ha
Kronk had better quit making off-the-wall statements about Kronk; but, then he so much as says ‘bring it on’.
From my google of: kronk, legal action, padilla
—
From WESH:
Roy Kronk’s attorney has sent Leonard Padilla a letter that demands he stop what Kronk considers personal attacks on various national platforms.
Kronk’s attorney, David Evans, who also represents WESH-TV, said he’s documenting every Padilla statement and will consider action against him.
Padilla responded to the letter by saying if Kronk wants a legal fight, he should “saddle up.”
Capy,
I know you meant Padilla. Kronk could sue him, unless it is true. I think Kronk would just like to fade back to a normal life.
“Saddle Up”? Hello Poncho, Hello Cisco…..
“out of the night, when the full moon is bright,comes a horseman know as Zorro” (with a toothpick)
Yes, I did mean Padilla - gotta keep my cast of characters straight when I start typing.
I haven’t had a roast in a long time - you are making us hungry!
Tori @ 4:06 - Most of the lawyers are already famous. They don’t NEED this per se - not enough to pay Bozo for it - IMO. One of the newest lawyers - from California is even famous for recently being accused of embezzling from a client!
What heart is talking about is a lawyer passing a case along to another lawyer (not handling it himself but still taking 30% of the money) I don’t know about that or what it has to do with this case since no lawyer has passed this case on to another lawyer like that.
I’ve tried to ignore Padilla for months now but he’s getting to me and now going after Kronk and Jesse is just ridiculous. He must be jealous that Kronk found the remains or desperate to keep his name in the news. Something is wrong with him.
Capy,

Smell the onions and the potatoes and the meat?
Tori - ha! You got him pegged.
Wish I could stay here - have to run errand.
I hope this gets nipped in the bud. It’s ridiculous to think that any lawyers are paying Bozo. How many lawyers are there? Just Bozo and the members of his own firm. Linda Kenney-Baden (whom Bozo should thank GOD for)
and the new guy from California, right?
No reason any of them should pay Bozo to be on this case.
Besides that’s kickback and probably illegal.
Mytwocents,
IMO you are right. The lawyers don’t need fame, but another feather under their cap wouldn’t hurt. Padilla is starting to become a burr in the saddle.
tori, lol its 90 dagrees there check your email it might be a better way to cook in the heat. i cant believe it was so nice here last week and it snowing today and its starting to stick to the ground dang it!! i dont like snow anymore lol
PICKLES ARE YOU FEELING ANY BETTER
no im not yelling i for got my button was on
oooppps
Where in the heck did he find Linda big butt Baden? Yeah the lawyer from CA should go back where he belongs. An accident re-creator
hello mtc, capy and anybody else
gina,
I think everyone left. see ya later, alligator.
Tori…You think I should keep the m on my name? Ok…I will switch it back
Its 85º here today!!! I wish I was laying in the sun instead of the couch with a back ache. Tori…where did you say you live? I know you told me a while back but I forgot.
tori, unless they will go for acidental death thats probly why he is on the defence panel it sounds like thats what they will try to go for. i hope not but ya never know what they are going to next.
Lorim,
Welcome back. I said to myself who the heck is this Lori????? Then I heard it was you. I live in Florida. And You?
tori, im smellin the meat and vegies. yuummmmm
hi lorim, how are you?
ok i check in later
gina,
I think everyone went out to watch the grass grow, so I will say bye for now.
Tori…I’m in Bakersfield California….pretty much in the Mojave Desert.
In my 11:50 post you must have thought I was a stalker…lol
Lorim,
sort of……
Talk to you later. I need some vino. ♥
Tori, I googled Linda Kenney-Baden and was blown away by her experience. She has a LOT in BIG cases I am sorry to say. I’m sure she contacted Bozo. She probably thinks she’s helping some “poor girl.” I really don’t understand what motivates people like her.
Hey Gina!!! ♥ Jan sent me your email address but I accidentally deleted it. I asked C~A to send you mine, so when you get it just shoot me a email and I can save it.
Lorim - you should be able to see your deleted emails. There is a special file for them.
Emails emails? Twuts goin on round here you all starting your own blog and ditching us
?
C~A you around?? Dork yourself when you get online!
Pickles,
Where have you been. e-mails No we are just getting into the loop!
The loop….LOVE IT~!♥
Pickles,
Have you been washing your rabbit suit?
Pickles,
Gotta go now and check on my roast……. Yum!
Lorim,
Have a nice night. I always thought of you as
Loor M, not Lori
Ok Tori save me some roast!!
I am washing the rabbit suit Space wore it last and it reekes now!
bb tomorrow. Pickles, everytime I hear that follow the rabbit, I hear the song in my head, but I don’t know what it is called.
“If you go chasing rabbits……da da da, Go ask Alice, when she’s 10 feet tall” It was from some group from SF I think.
Tori at 5:15 There is no loop except the one you all are creating right now. I just hope it does no harm to BNN or anyone on it.
Bye Tori~ ♥
TORI, go ask alice jefferson airplane sang that song.. one pill makes you small and so forth cant remember all the words.
pickles you still here?
well here i am standing here in the middle of a flugging blizard we were suposed to be done with snow and its SNOWING my flowers are going into shock this happened last yr too.
hey Gina
i lost all my tulips, they froze im not been having any luck growing flowers last 2 yrs our weather patterns have been screwwy. im trying to plant plants that keep coming back every yr. then i have flower boxes and planters full of flowers in various spots in the yard will take pics and send them so you can see what my yard looks like
hey pickles!!!!!
i thought i was by myself again that happens sometimes lol
~Nighty night Tori, see ya in the morning.~
mtc, I checked my trash folder, and its been emptied by yahoo.
I was to late 
pickles lets go to tori”s for dinner she making a roast
Nope not alone….
lorim c-a has my email you can get it from her.
Hi MTC
Not sure of all the details of how it works, really. I just know my ex got forwarding fees when forwarded a case to another lawyer. This was in PA. There was nothing illegal, it was done all the time, and is legal. Called Forwarding Fee.
In my lifetime I have tried then not to ask other lawyers who to use, because I figured all it would take was one phone call … “Hey you might get a call from ______________ I recommended you to her.” I thought too then, I wasn’t such a valuable client then. He wasn’t going to make the full FEE, from me. Thought I might get better care if I searched around myself and got my own…?
I am sure they don’t talk about it much to the public either. Maybe you have a lawyer, or know one you can trust, and can ask them if you want.
Just wondering… since we know BOZO is the way he is, in general. So above board and trusworthy. I would imagine all kinds of things can go on behind closed doors if one is without morals. WAY WAY outside of what is “legal”. Maybe even kick backs … who knows with them? I trust all of them as far as I can throw the local High School.
Then we should remember there are amounts like $20,000. - and there are also amounts like $1000. All good when you are a new lawyer just out of law school - 3 years, and you are representing indigent inmates. Did he work for the Govt.?? Salary?? Wonder what that was a year, if so? $35,000.???
Thanks Gina
Aye I love roast but I am still having trouble holding food/liquids down….While having the flu sheds the pounds its not the greatest diet
Pickles, I’m sorry you’re feeling so yucky. It sucks having the flu. Get better soon girly!!
Pickles
No fun - get well soon.
yes pickles please get better soon.
hi heart!!!
pickles hope the kids dont get it, chicken noodle soup the broth is great for that kinda thing try that a few days see if it might work.
hi capy
hubby making homemade pizza will be back later.
Gina, yum pizza. Is your hubby going to throw on some chorizo
Poor Pickles, everybody picked today to cook and talk about their delicious food. I bet you scold me about the chorizo. I used to turn my nose up at it, until hubby put some on 1/2 of our pizza. I snuck a little bite and was sold!
You know my name. I am not hispanic, but my husband was and I got introduced to all kinds of good food and he made homemade tamales once a year. hmmmm
I love pizza
The reason chicken noodle soup is good for colds and flu’s is chicken breast has natural antioxidants in it…and they use chicken breast to make the meat and broth in chicken noodle soup.
Chorizo is bueno!! My favorite Mexican dish is simple Migas
Scrambled eggs with tortillas in em….all fried up in the pan! MUY BUENO!
Pickles, you are going to make a great nurse. I only know what vitamins some foods contain, but never really checked out the chemistry. I have learned a lot from you - to know HOW foods work.
Hello GINA!
For sure, chicken soup!! Yes. Poor PICKS.
Was BOZO a Public Defender? Out of law school from 1 - 4 years they make $47,340. a year.
He sure fell into something BIG … didn’t he.

I’m waiting for a comeback on that from Pickles …. ha ha
If by something big you mean that big ol gaping SS Tuna trap then yes he fell into something big!
The black hole vortex she calls a snatcher! Im suprised he made it back out alive!
Heart - I’ve been wanting to ask a question, without seeming blond.
Let’s say the Prosecution has 100 witness (they have more, actually). Will they put all the witnesses on the stand? To make a trial less complex, does the judge weed out some witnesses. Does the Defense have a say in it?
The reason for my question, is on the new article someone said the trial is expected to last a month. If there are going to be OVER 100 witness from both P & D and cross-examination from both sides, PLUS explaining all the forensics - seems the trial would continue for much longer than a month.
I don’t know how many witnesses OJ’s trial had, but it got pretty complicated after awhile.
Hey, Tori 4;12pm Great post!
I have been reading I love it Tori, i can just see it ! you do have him pegged!LOL!!!!! And Gina its snowing, what state do you live in? It never snow’s in south al, sometime’s in north al! everything has turned green here just in the last week, we have had so much rain you look out everthing is dead rain’s 4 day’s look out and everthing has turned green, i can not wait to go to the beach!I can go now when it stop’s raining!
Capy, put me on your friend’s list for mail out temale’s, i will love you forever! i love real hispanic food!!!! man i might see ya what time is dinner? LOL
Linda - the neat things about homemade tamales is everyone makes them a little different. It must be their signature - ha. My hubby always put a couple raisens on top of the meat mixture before he rolled them. Another friend, put black pitted whole olives. Fun
A LOTTA LOTTA WORK
I know my sister-in-law is hispanic and when she come’s only once a year, sometime’s she make’s them, she alway’s cook’s us a meal while she’s here,best food in the world ! I love hot pepper’s and hot stuff!
Pickles likes spicy food too. I don’t. You two should get together with all your jalapeno chiles and jabineros (sp)
Correct spelling: Habanero chile - muy picante
I can’t believe there are so many ignorant and uncaring people in this world. Stop the bus, I wanna get off.
Beast
Been watching too much news?
No that really depresses me, just some ass commenting on an article I wrote. Some people just have no heart.
I don’t know where your articles are, but there are a lot of people out there who are just A.H.’s. They lead sorry lives and they’re sociopaths (maybe). They come in here every once in awhile, because they don’t like to see us enjoying discussions.
I bet I would enjoy your article, I do like your posts.
Beast - THE WORLD IS FULL OF THEM WASTES OF SKIN! I say we throw them all in a double bagged black garbage bag and toss em to the wolves…oh, that would be sin and gees backyard…
Them kinds of people need their own blog and their own website, so they can spew all they want back and forth
capy…chuckles..among other places.. I write for BNN, right here…under my real name. Bea§t is just a nick name
C~A gave it to me, cause I’m always horny
See? I thought Beast was your real name LOL. Why don’t you give me some feedback on my 6:44 post. I don’t express my questions very well, hope you can figure it out.
I’ll check for your articles later. Thanks
Hi CAPY - 6:44 I was only married to a lawyer, and I’m blonde! Ha ha ha ha but I will try here. Maybe some others know more and will help.
Hopefully the Prosecution (the State) can put on it’s full list of witnesses. After all, if they think the murderer is guilty, they should be allowed to try to prove it - fully.
I don’t know if BOZO has any control over them at all tho. Too, I would imagine the Judge will try to keep it moving along, because they are usually mindful and respectful of the Jury and their time away from home. This Jury might even be sequestered and kept away from their families for that entire time. That costs lots of money too, lots.
COULD IT BE that the Defense is jealous? What will they have 6 witnesses or so? C, G. Lee, maybe 3 more?
I wonder who …
Me too - I don’t see HOW this can all be over in a month with that Witness List and BOZO’s ineptness and lack of experience in Court. He might go on forever making a “noise like a lawyer” - trying to impress his client and future clients, and just wanting “air time”. What a fiasco awaits us. He will, won’t he, pick apart every single little thread he can find, trying to DESTROY credibility, forensics, witnesses, experts, etc. After all, HE has something to prove here in this convenient ARENA he will find himself in, that he is a GREAT LAWYER!!! Clarence Darrow lives!!! God forgive me!!! He just got by - by the skin of his teeth didn’t he someone pointed out??
You KNOW when you are second best, you HAVE TO TRY HARDER!
SHOW TIME!!!
Lawyer’s saying “If you have the facts on your side, POUND AWAY at the facts. If you don’t have the facts on your side POUND AWAY at the TABLE!” Get your Tylenol ready…
I can’t say for sure, but this is what I think CAP.
Beast. I read what you are talking about. Don’t let him get your blood pressure up. He’s not worth it!!
When I heard that story on TV, I could NOT believe it!!That officer should be fired in my opinion. Personally, I think Mr. M. might have a law suit against that officer. I think there are to may frivilous law suits out there but not this one. I’d sue him for sure!
btw..Good article!
The prosecution has the option to call every witness. However. If the defense enters a “willing to accept testimony” motion they do not have to appear. Im sure thats not what it is called, but basically means if the defense will accept what that person is going to say then no need for them to appear.
thanks capy…And good question.. I cant see how this trial is only going to last a month
Thanks Heart & Beast. I was hoping ALL witness could be called.
Beast, I see why you are upset, but like I told you there are some AH who just like to spew and cause trouble. Who knows if he really felt that way - he just wants to rile.
But that is a tricky thing. Now, the jury has to be present for those types of motions. And I would think, a person sitting there giving testamony carries more weight than the state reading it, and defense agreeing. example…If jessie grund is going to appear, and say that Casey was a sex fiend and was always hounding him and wanting to party. The jury seeing him, his body language, and his disgust for her, would make more of an impact than just Baez stating that yes the defense will agree to “this and that”.
I hope her friends are subpoenad (sp). They are crucial. Testimony from the tattoo parlor, video store, other less damaging testimony to be read.
Thanks for the answers.
6 months and 2 weeks - we are going to be exhausted by time of trial.
Lets hope that we ar enot also dealing with another murder trial concerning haleigh.. Poor thing been gone a long time
Beast - What you may be referring to is the “Will the defense stipulate that this witness is a firearms expert” (kind of thing) which would mean that the prosecution does not have to question the expert about his experience and qualifications to testify about that subject.
I don’t know that it’s used much as a substitute for testimony like Jesse and others would give. As you said it’s much better for them to appear in person.
Heart, Sindee, George and Leevil are on the prosecution’s witness list. I believe the only witnesses on the defense list so far are “experts.” Like Lee I guess.
Sorry, Heart, I meant like Dr. Lee (Dr. Henwee Wee).
So the defenses job at this point is to cross examine all of the prosecutions witnesses? They will only call ‘their’ experts? That alone will be an overwhelming task!!
The prosecution has to name every possible witness before the trial (although sometimes they’ll find one later on and try to get permission to add him/her). But they do not have to have every one of them testify. Let’s say they have 20 people who can testify to what a skank Maggot is. But the first five people to testify nail it so well the prosecution may decide not to call up the other 15 because the jury’s got the message and it’s smarter to move on before boring them or irritating them. It’s the kind of decision they make on the fly during the trial. So it might be that not all 100 (or whatever) will have to appear.
I mean cross examining the pros. witnesses will be an overwhelming job.
mb - The defense does not HAVE to cross examine every single witness if they don’t want to. But knowing grandstanding Bozo he probably will.
We’ll have to see if Bozo comes up with any additional witnesses (more than just experts). There is plenty of time.
I am sure there will be a lot of witnesses describing her behaviour while caylee was missing
so miss so and so…did you ever hear miss anthony say she was looking for her daughter while groping your breast or grinding with you around the pole at Fusion?
I’m sure there will be, Beast. I just hope BB doesn’t destroy their credibility by saying stuff like - “weren’t you smoking pot at the time” (so you don’t know what you’re talking about). OR, “did you actually see Maggot give Caylee Benadryl? No?” And that kind of thing. Of course that is exactly what he is going to do to everyone. Destroy their character, brains, credibility, experience, and even science. It’s going to be very tough to watch!
Oh and the most recent lawyer he got on the team (the embezzler from California) is particularly good at cross-examining experts.
Oh geez!
“No. She seemed to be looking for my wallet!”
LOL!
ahahahaha…more “witnesses” for the defense..it will never change unless it’s an “expert”anybody that has ever had the misfortune of coming into contact with this leach is NOT going to do her any good! And I don’t blame em…
she has probably stolen or lied to everyone one of the states winess list…she is DONE! Bozo knows he has no leg to stand on…NOBODY HAS COME FORWARD TO SAY WHAT A WONDERFUL PERSON SHE WAS…
and families that lie dont count
I’m sure the prosecutions witnessess will be forwarned what to expect from the defense and how to handle his questions as to not destroy their crediility…………..I hope!
CA - Bozo is probably having casting calls for actors to pretend to be “old friends” who thought she was GREAT!
mb - I hope they get a lot of helpful advice beforehand too. But the pros will be jumping up and down “objecting” a lot because I’m sure Bozo will ask a lot of inappropriate and irrelevant questions too.
just dont say…excuse me Mr Bozo, what did you say?
When Sindee, G and Leevil (who are on the prosecution’s witness list) get on the stand the first words out of the prosecution’s mouth are going to be “Judge, permission to treat as hostile?”
You BET!
MTC - That clown is greasy….the way he acted in court the other day was NOT of one who on the straight and narrow…he was GLOATING…like he “got away” with something…I am sure he thinks he has…but i have faith in the state of florida…they seem to be on top of things…and THE CLOWN IS GOING DOWN…he is one cocky sob
what does that mean permission to treat as hostile…to really nail em cause they may lie?
and they don’t want to testify… kinda thing?
Oh but I do hope he makes a fool of himself - but not enough for the jury to feel sorry that Maggot didn’t get a better lawyer. That would be a disaster!
CA - I think it’s more a matter of the kinds of quesiton that the prosecution can ask of a hostile witness, the way they treat him/her.
But it’s right that they don’t want to testify FOR the prosecution. That’s why they’re called hostile. I imagine that’s what the situation will be but I don’t know.
8:00 BEAST … but how will the Jury hear their testimony if they don’t have to appear?
I went over and wrote something to that lovely Wayne on your article! I am angry too. What kind of life must he be having to have that kind of attitude - so rigid. NO WONDER he is so unhappy.
MTW - GOOD that the Prosc. is calling G, C and Lee. Wonderful!
Ha ha ha then there’s Re Direct, then Re Cross and sometimes reruns of that. Oh are WE in for some fun! I DO hope it will be televised LIVE on TRU TV the former Court channel.
CA - I’m sorry but I don’t know the specific differences between how the prosecution can question a hostile witness vs a regular witness but there are differences.
he will make a fool of himself…that’s guaranteed…but the jurors will see why! SHE’S GUILTY…and HE IS A BUMBLING IDIOT! They need to know that she just had and always has the chance to ask for a new lawyer…they need to keep their heads on straight…IT NEVER POOR MAGGOTT BABY KILLR…
I had a long day…will be turning in now…i dunno what beast is doing but i am going to call it a day…and a long one it was!