Comments on: Getting away with Murder http://www.bloggernews.net/119979 High-quality English language analysis and editorial writing on the news. Sun, 27 May 2012 05:37:16 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: A Grammy's Heart http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1029547 A Grammy's Heart Sat, 07 Mar 2009 13:25:42 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1029547 I'm not a lawyer Anon...just an ordinary citizen who is outraged by this judgment. The Criminal Code is vague and pretty open-ended. Repeating it doesn't make it any clearer as to why he is not being imprisoned for murder. If Li was insane at that moment and didn't realize what he had done was wrong, what on earth could prevent this happening again? He is far too dangerous to allow him to be released into society again by some "go by the book" lawyers. Just my opinion, but our legal system isn't working when it protects the "rights" of Vincent Li. My heart goes out to the McLean family. I’m not a lawyer Anon…just an ordinary citizen who is outraged by this judgment.

The Criminal Code is vague and pretty open-ended. Repeating it doesn’t make it any clearer as to why he is not being imprisoned for murder.

If Li was insane at that moment and didn’t realize what he had done was wrong, what on earth could prevent this happening again?

He is far too dangerous to allow him to be released into society again by some “go by the book” lawyers.

Just my opinion, but our legal system isn’t working when it protects the “rights” of Vincent Li.

My heart goes out to the McLean family.

]]> By: Anon http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1028701 Anon Sat, 07 Mar 2009 01:48:48 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1028701 "How true that is, because we certainly cannot grasp how someone could do something like this. And therefore, that person MUST be emotionally disturbed." Err...I think it's pretty well accepted that if someone thinks that the voice of God is speaking to them, then that person is mentally ill. "It’s like saying this unthinkable crime is not covered by our laws, because it’s not something anyone ever anticipated. Outrageous." Uhh...except it's not at all like that. What it is like is that it *is* covered by our laws precisely because it was anticipated (or rather, because things like this have happened before). In particular, it's covered by section 16 of the Criminal Code of Canada which states, "16. (1) No person is criminally responsible for an act committed or an omission made while suffering from a mental disorder that rendered the person incapable of appreciating the nature and quality of the act or omission or of knowing that it was wrong." “How true that is, because we certainly cannot grasp how someone could do something like this. And therefore, that person MUST be emotionally disturbed.”

Err…I think it’s pretty well accepted that if someone thinks that the voice of God is speaking to them, then that person is mentally ill.

“It’s like saying this unthinkable crime is not covered by our laws, because it’s not something anyone ever anticipated. Outrageous.”

Uhh…except it’s not at all like that. What it is like is that it *is* covered by our laws precisely because it was anticipated (or rather, because things like this have happened before). In particular, it’s covered by section 16 of the Criminal Code of Canada which states, “16. (1) No person is criminally responsible for an act committed or an omission made while suffering from a mental disorder that rendered the person incapable of appreciating the nature and quality of the act or omission or of knowing that it was wrong.”

]]> By: Bea§t http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1028538 Bea§t Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:42:23 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1028538 Nancy, my problem with the whole issue is the doctors. they say that he is not responsible because he was "temporary insane". Yet, they do not know "why" he was in that condition. They have no idea what causes it, or how long it can last. So what makes them think they can cure it? Nancy, my problem with the whole issue is the doctors. they say that he is not responsible because he was “temporary insane”. Yet, they do not know “why” he was in that condition. They have no idea what causes it, or how long it can last. So what makes them think they can cure it?

]]> By: Nancy Reyes http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1028517 Nancy Reyes Fri, 06 Mar 2009 23:28:35 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1028517 the original "insanity" rule was made for madmen like Li, who was deeply psychotic at the time of the assault. One really doubts he knew what he was doing. The bad news is that there are a lot of psychotics out there, partly because they were "deinstitutionalized" and it is almost impossible to hospitalize them until they do something, and partly because activists think delusional psychotics are able to decide if they want to take medicines, and oppose mandatory treatment. Sigh. The main problem is that with medicine he could be released. Ah, but what happens when he stops his medicine? the original “insanity” rule was made for madmen like Li, who was deeply psychotic at the time of the assault. One really doubts he knew what he was doing.

The bad news is that there are a lot of psychotics out there, partly because they were “deinstitutionalized” and it is almost impossible to hospitalize them until they do something, and partly because activists think delusional psychotics are able to decide if they want to take medicines, and oppose mandatory treatment.

Sigh.

The main problem is that with medicine he could be released. Ah, but what happens when he stops his medicine?

]]> By: A Grammy's Heart http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1028090 A Grammy's Heart Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:42:05 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1028090 We need to have the death penalty for cases like this. Ok, he's mentally ill. There's a shock. But, he is not fit to live amongst us. Anyone who is so ill that they can casually decapitate and cannibalize their victim is not worthy of rehabilitation at the expense of the tax-payers. This is another case of we'll wait and see if he does it again, then deal with it. We need to have the death penalty for cases like this.

Ok, he’s mentally ill. There’s a shock. But, he is not fit to live amongst us. Anyone who is so ill that they can casually decapitate and cannibalize their victim is not worthy of rehabilitation at the expense of the tax-payers.

This is another case of we’ll wait and see if he does it again, then deal with it.

]]> By: Bea§t http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1028069 Bea§t Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:22:26 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1028069 Both the Crown attorney and defence lawyer agreed on this, and the judge went along with it. Apparently the bleeding heart Liberal bias in the criminal justice system strikes again. All the breaks and sympathy for the criminals. "<i>Oh I know he killed the guy and cut off his head munching on hid flesh, but he's a decent guy."</i><b>makes me sick Both the Crown attorney and defence lawyer agreed on this, and the judge went along with it. Apparently the bleeding heart Liberal bias in the criminal justice system strikes again. All the breaks and sympathy for the criminals. “Oh I know he killed the guy and cut off his head munching on hid flesh, but he’s a decent guy.”makes me sick

]]> By: A Grammy's Heart http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1028061 A Grammy's Heart Fri, 06 Mar 2009 15:14:19 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/119979#comment-1028061 It makes no sense. It's like saying this unthinkable crime is not covered by our laws, because it's not something anyone ever anticipated. Outrageous. Can this be appealed? Is the judge on these psychotropic drugs? It makes no sense.

It’s like saying this unthinkable crime is not covered by our laws, because it’s not something anyone ever anticipated. Outrageous.

Can this be appealed? Is the judge on these psychotropic drugs?

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