I am so flippin angry right now I don’t know where to begin. Vincent Li. That freakish barbaric attack in Winnipeg, has resulted in a hospital stay as punishment for the lunatic guilty of the crime. Vincent Li. Can you believe that? No I mean really, seriously. He is not going to spend one day in jail. Not one. Nada. Well, except I suppose the time in jail before the trial. I guess that was enough. Not only did he kill a man, but he stabbed him to death before mutilating his body, including cutting off his head and eating some of his body parts. Yes, Vincent Li did that. Apparently both eyes and pieces of the victims heart were ingested. Yes I agree, a most bizarre and unusual thing.
But just because it IS so unusual and bizarre, does that mean he should get that type of “punishment?” And I use that term VERY lightly in this case. That is like saying ” the crime is so horrendous that we sane people can think of nothing else that would make us comfortable.” To quote a very wise man, “perhaps this is a man you did not fully understand,” and “some men just want to see the world burn.” How true that is, because we certainly cannot grasp how someone could do something like this. And therefore, that person MUST be emotionally disturbed. And the arrogance spills forth, for now he will only be released back into society when he is no longer a threat. Seems to me a little hard to determine that when they cannot figure out what made Li do that in the first place. How is it even remotely possible that a doctor can say with absolute certainty that Li will never hear that voice again, and repeat his barbaric behaviour?
Justice John Scurfield ruled that Li could not be held criminally responsible because “Persons who are profoundly ill do not have the mental capacity to intentionally commit a crime.” So, would someone please explain to me what profoundly ill means? Just before Vincent Li did this he was outside having a smoke and speaking with other passengers, and by all accounts was acting perfectly normal. The judge went on to say “The evidence before the court indicates that Mr. Li could pose a significant risk to re-offend, if he were currently released or if he discontinued his psychotropic medication”. Now call me silly, but if Vincent Li was released who is going to babysit him 24/7 to make sure he takes his medicine? And with ANY risk to re-offend at all, I don’t see why that is even an option. Are the laws in this Country protecting us?
Something else to ponder. When Li was arrested by RCMP, he said “I’m guilty, please kill me.” Does that sound like a person that had no idea what he did was wrong?
What say you?
My deepest condolences to the McLean’s family, and you have my total support for Tim’s Law.
















7 users commented in " Getting away with Murder "
Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackIt makes no sense.
It’s like saying this unthinkable crime is not covered by our laws, because it’s not something anyone ever anticipated. Outrageous.
Can this be appealed? Is the judge on these psychotropic drugs?
Both the Crown attorney and defence lawyer agreed on this, and the judge went along with it. Apparently the bleeding heart Liberal bias in the criminal justice system strikes again. All the breaks and sympathy for the criminals. “Oh I know he killed the guy and cut off his head munching on hid flesh, but he’s a decent guy.”makes me sick
We need to have the death penalty for cases like this.
Ok, he’s mentally ill. There’s a shock. But, he is not fit to live amongst us. Anyone who is so ill that they can casually decapitate and cannibalize their victim is not worthy of rehabilitation at the expense of the tax-payers.
This is another case of we’ll wait and see if he does it again, then deal with it.
the original “insanity” rule was made for madmen like Li, who was deeply psychotic at the time of the assault. One really doubts he knew what he was doing.
The bad news is that there are a lot of psychotics out there, partly because they were “deinstitutionalized” and it is almost impossible to hospitalize them until they do something, and partly because activists think delusional psychotics are able to decide if they want to take medicines, and oppose mandatory treatment.
Sigh.
The main problem is that with medicine he could be released. Ah, but what happens when he stops his medicine?
Nancy, my problem with the whole issue is the doctors. they say that he is not responsible because he was “temporary insane”. Yet, they do not know “why” he was in that condition. They have no idea what causes it, or how long it can last. So what makes them think they can cure it?
“How true that is, because we certainly cannot grasp how someone could do something like this. And therefore, that person MUST be emotionally disturbed.”
Err…I think it’s pretty well accepted that if someone thinks that the voice of God is speaking to them, then that person is mentally ill.
“It’s like saying this unthinkable crime is not covered by our laws, because it’s not something anyone ever anticipated. Outrageous.”
Uhh…except it’s not at all like that. What it is like is that it *is* covered by our laws precisely because it was anticipated (or rather, because things like this have happened before). In particular, it’s covered by section 16 of the Criminal Code of Canada which states, “16. (1) No person is criminally responsible for an act committed or an omission made while suffering from a mental disorder that rendered the person incapable of appreciating the nature and quality of the act or omission or of knowing that it was wrong.”
I’m not a lawyer Anon…just an ordinary citizen who is outraged by this judgment.
The Criminal Code is vague and pretty open-ended. Repeating it doesn’t make it any clearer as to why he is not being imprisoned for murder.
If Li was insane at that moment and didn’t realize what he had done was wrong, what on earth could prevent this happening again?
He is far too dangerous to allow him to be released into society again by some “go by the book” lawyers.
Just my opinion, but our legal system isn’t working when it protects the “rights” of Vincent Li.
My heart goes out to the McLean family.
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