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	<title>Comments on: Why is ICAI soft on PWC ?</title>
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		<title>By: Anonymous</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-1410602</link>
		<dc:creator>Anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Sep 2009 07:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Because of Harinderjit Singh</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Because of Harinderjit Singh</p>
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		<title>By: lakshya</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-1054353</link>
		<dc:creator>lakshya</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 10:30:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi everybody,i would like to say that this is a very subjective issue, so we should not be judgmental while taking decisions.
Let the regulators (SFIO) do the investigation and issue a report which is going to happen very soon and only then we should make a decision as to the fate of the coveted organization.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi everybody,i would like to say that this is a very subjective issue, so we should not be judgmental while taking decisions.<br />
Let the regulators (SFIO) do the investigation and issue a report which is going to happen very soon and only then we should make a decision as to the fate of the coveted organization.</p>
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		<title>By: Atanu</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-931795</link>
		<dc:creator>Atanu</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 14:37:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey folks.. defending PWC.. see the admission of two PWC black sheeps, they connived with Raju for cooking up books

Some CA's also defending PWC,ha ha.. PWC took 4 crores fees last year and could not confirm bank balances. Raju may forge bank balance certificates, but can he forge all bank statements..so PWC cant do bank reconciliation!!!

Come to reality folks, dont take investors granted.. by taking refuge of 'auditors are not investigators', if you cant do your job better go for farming, else all corrupt auditors will be lynched.. playing with people mony.. investor activism is gaining momentum.. how come Big 4 did not learn from Anderson's untimely death</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey folks.. defending PWC.. see the admission of two PWC black sheeps, they connived with Raju for cooking up books</p>
<p>Some CA&#8217;s also defending PWC,ha ha.. PWC took 4 crores fees last year and could not confirm bank balances. Raju may forge bank balance certificates, but can he forge all bank statements..so PWC cant do bank reconciliation!!!</p>
<p>Come to reality folks, dont take investors granted.. by taking refuge of &#8216;auditors are not investigators&#8217;, if you cant do your job better go for farming, else all corrupt auditors will be lynched.. playing with people mony.. investor activism is gaining momentum.. how come Big 4 did not learn from Anderson&#8217;s untimely death</p>
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		<title>By: leosign</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-911322</link>
		<dc:creator>leosign</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Jan 2009 05:25:27 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PWC Hyderabad is registered as separate  entity other than PWC Bangalore or Delhi.How the an assesse (PwC) can furnish the PAN of other assesse (PwC Bangalore)?It is an offence
1)Offence under Incometax act
2)Violation of Code of Conduct

Since PAN tracking is easy , how PwC can take plea of innocence.
Auditor is certainly not blood hound and PwC is not certainly watch dog even a street dog.

Even one assumen that Bank statement &#38; FDRs are all forged(provided to audit team) , in that case also liquidity crisis could have arise the suspicion.

Semifinished Project revenue mobilisation &#38; reconciliation with degree of execution vis-a vis original contract could easily detect the case of fund syphoning or fund diversion at source 

DBA softwares could easily track the malicious entries on accounting system.

Had PwC not been equiped to deliver quality audit, whats the diference with ABC &#38; CO(CAs)for commanding fess for crore.

PwC, partners &#38; staffs  have lot of way to  evade punishment because of lax legal framework.

CA Regulation Act or ICAI cannt be blamed unless Companies Act,Dept of Com Affairs &#38; SEBI remains half baked body.

Audit procedure needs legal sanctions too</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PWC Hyderabad is registered as separate  entity other than PWC Bangalore or Delhi.How the an assesse (PwC) can furnish the PAN of other assesse (PwC Bangalore)?It is an offence<br />
1)Offence under Incometax act<br />
2)Violation of Code of Conduct</p>
<p>Since PAN tracking is easy , how PwC can take plea of innocence.<br />
Auditor is certainly not blood hound and PwC is not certainly watch dog even a street dog.</p>
<p>Even one assumen that Bank statement &amp; FDRs are all forged(provided to audit team) , in that case also liquidity crisis could have arise the suspicion.</p>
<p>Semifinished Project revenue mobilisation &amp; reconciliation with degree of execution vis-a vis original contract could easily detect the case of fund syphoning or fund diversion at source </p>
<p>DBA softwares could easily track the malicious entries on accounting system.</p>
<p>Had PwC not been equiped to deliver quality audit, whats the diference with ABC &amp; CO(CAs)for commanding fess for crore.</p>
<p>PwC, partners &amp; staffs  have lot of way to  evade punishment because of lax legal framework.</p>
<p>CA Regulation Act or ICAI cannt be blamed unless Companies Act,Dept of Com Affairs &amp; SEBI remains half baked body.</p>
<p>Audit procedure needs legal sanctions too</p>
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		<title>By: prakash</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-910257</link>
		<dc:creator>prakash</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:31:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>to above,

agreed absolutely! its just sad, boss. When the fact is Raju name should appear more instead of PwC's name. Load of crap here and there. What do you expect its India.

Look at what happen in Mumbai, and suddenly everyone forgot how useless the government is, and now they are trying to make this a sensational story and divert all the attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to above,</p>
<p>agreed absolutely! its just sad, boss. When the fact is Raju name should appear more instead of PwC&#8217;s name. Load of crap here and there. What do you expect its India.</p>
<p>Look at what happen in Mumbai, and suddenly everyone forgot how useless the government is, and now they are trying to make this a sensational story and divert all the attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Figured it out centuries ago</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-910251</link>
		<dc:creator>Figured it out centuries ago</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 18:27:22 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-910251</guid>
		<description>to sourabh,

errr.. more like "Indians" instead of what you quoted. sad indeed, how do you expect India to grow or even become a global power. it is a joke that they are treating the satyamites as if they have done nothing wrong and pwc as if they took all the money.

India, wait long long and long before you call yourself even a power in Asia much less in the world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>to sourabh,</p>
<p>errr.. more like &#8220;Indians&#8221; instead of what you quoted. sad indeed, how do you expect India to grow or even become a global power. it is a joke that they are treating the satyamites as if they have done nothing wrong and pwc as if they took all the money.</p>
<p>India, wait long long and long before you call yourself even a power in Asia much less in the world.</p>
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		<title>By: S Radhakrishnan</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-909931</link>
		<dc:creator>S Radhakrishnan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 15:29:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Many things have said about the role of auditors and their responsibilities. But the fact remains that the auditor is not having adequate powers given by the statutes like the Companies Act, Income Tax Act to inspect the Board Minutes, directly getting confirmation from Bankers etc.Whereas an Inspector of Income Tax (it is notto derogorate the IT dept officials)has the powers to get the information, can directly call for the documents, the auditors can have the documents only through their clients and the basic responsibility of preparing the accounts lies with the Company management (Directors) and not with the Auditors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Many things have said about the role of auditors and their responsibilities. But the fact remains that the auditor is not having adequate powers given by the statutes like the Companies Act, Income Tax Act to inspect the Board Minutes, directly getting confirmation from Bankers etc.Whereas an Inspector of Income Tax (it is notto derogorate the IT dept officials)has the powers to get the information, can directly call for the documents, the auditors can have the documents only through their clients and the basic responsibility of preparing the accounts lies with the Company management (Directors) and not with the Auditors.</p>
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		<title>By: sourabh</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-909626</link>
		<dc:creator>sourabh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 12:11:06 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-909626</guid>
		<description>we indians take pride in blaming foreign firms,we think of the satyamites who are at risk of losing their jobs. 
but we care a fig for those working with PWC. we are shouting "ban pwc"
but we don't know the proper functioning of an auditor,we are assuming them to be an investigating agency. It's a shame indian auditors are also behaving in the same way.
I think this is what we call "IRRESPONSIBLE INDIA"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>we indians take pride in blaming foreign firms,we think of the satyamites who are at risk of losing their jobs.<br />
but we care a fig for those working with PWC. we are shouting &#8220;ban pwc&#8221;<br />
but we don&#8217;t know the proper functioning of an auditor,we are assuming them to be an investigating agency. It&#8217;s a shame indian auditors are also behaving in the same way.<br />
I think this is what we call &#8220;IRRESPONSIBLE INDIA&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Santosh S</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-909143</link>
		<dc:creator>Santosh S</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 05:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dude, u are assuming pwc did not check balances idependently!!!!! :) . I know audit procedures which pw follows as i worked there for 4 yrs. There is no doubt abt the integrity and competece of Pw. Its finest firm in India.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dude, u are assuming pwc did not check balances idependently!!!!! <img src='http://www.bloggernews.net/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> . I know audit procedures which pw follows as i worked there for 4 yrs. There is no doubt abt the integrity and competece of Pw. Its finest firm in India.</p>
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		<title>By: sathya,chennai</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-909016</link>
		<dc:creator>sathya,chennai</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 04:28:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To SB.
Boss, We know what is auditors role. :)
Auditor is a person who checks the basic accuracy.His basic test checks includes getting the balances from the bank on the clients bank accounts including fixed deposit. 
As is reported, It is known that they had lapses on this end. They havenot obtained the balances indepedently or ignored the same. 
Any case, There is a wilful neglect and is subject matter of concern. 
So You also understand what an auditors role :))</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To SB.<br />
Boss, We know what is auditors role. <img src='http://www.bloggernews.net/wp/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Auditor is a person who checks the basic accuracy.His basic test checks includes getting the balances from the bank on the clients bank accounts including fixed deposit.<br />
As is reported, It is known that they had lapses on this end. They havenot obtained the balances indepedently or ignored the same.<br />
Any case, There is a wilful neglect and is subject matter of concern.<br />
So You also understand what an auditors role :))</p>
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		<title>By: Independent</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-907713</link>
		<dc:creator>Independent</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 19:21:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>PwC (PricewaterhouseCoopers) is an international network of firms across many countries (~160) in the world. 

PwC can be broadly divided into two major divisions, namely Audit and Advsiory (Consulting) services.(This is commonly a similar organizational structure across all the Big 4 firms). 

Now one of the  firms  in the Audit division of under PwC by the name  Pw(Price waterhouse), was the statuotary auditor in the unfolding saga.(There is another such firm in the audit division by the name Lovelock &#38; Lewis.)Pw and L&#38;L audit more than 100 large reputed companies in India.


An audit of financial statements of a legal entity  is presenting an independentl opinion on such financial statements with reference to  accuracy, completeness and fairness.

It should also be recognized that auditors have their own limited Scope of their assignment and cannot go beyond certain limits.
If malafide intentions and ulterior motives are under play , there are only limited means to corroborate the evidences presented. 

However the complicity or competence of the auditors are under scrutiny and an independent  investigation &#38; legal processes shall determine whether there is a strong case against them, as still there is a need for some clarity on the veracity of the statements made in the now famous "tiger ride" letter.  In this context, ICAI also needs to set its regulatory teeth strongly to set stringent norms and auditing standards.

Although PwC is bound by client confidentiality, it should come out clearly regarding news and views against it. 

PwC should atleast educate the media  regarding its organization, areas of business and employees and its nature of work and responsibilities to put things in a better perspective.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>PwC (PricewaterhouseCoopers) is an international network of firms across many countries (~160) in the world. </p>
<p>PwC can be broadly divided into two major divisions, namely Audit and Advsiory (Consulting) services.(This is commonly a similar organizational structure across all the Big 4 firms). </p>
<p>Now one of the  firms  in the Audit division of under PwC by the name  Pw(Price waterhouse), was the statuotary auditor in the unfolding saga.(There is another such firm in the audit division by the name Lovelock &amp; Lewis.)Pw and L&amp;L audit more than 100 large reputed companies in India.</p>
<p>An audit of financial statements of a legal entity  is presenting an independentl opinion on such financial statements with reference to  accuracy, completeness and fairness.</p>
<p>It should also be recognized that auditors have their own limited Scope of their assignment and cannot go beyond certain limits.<br />
If malafide intentions and ulterior motives are under play , there are only limited means to corroborate the evidences presented. </p>
<p>However the complicity or competence of the auditors are under scrutiny and an independent  investigation &amp; legal processes shall determine whether there is a strong case against them, as still there is a need for some clarity on the veracity of the statements made in the now famous &#8220;tiger ride&#8221; letter.  In this context, ICAI also needs to set its regulatory teeth strongly to set stringent norms and auditing standards.</p>
<p>Although PwC is bound by client confidentiality, it should come out clearly regarding news and views against it. </p>
<p>PwC should atleast educate the media  regarding its organization, areas of business and employees and its nature of work and responsibilities to put things in a better perspective.</p>
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		<title>By: SB</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/119425#comment-907560</link>
		<dc:creator>SB</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 17 Jan 2009 17:06:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Do u have a minimum knowledge of Accounting dude? If not, then better shut up. PwC only did AUDIT &#38; not an investigation of Satyam numbers. They went by whatever were provided to them.

Dnt make abosolute comments. 
Bullshit</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Do u have a minimum knowledge of Accounting dude? If not, then better shut up. PwC only did AUDIT &amp; not an investigation of Satyam numbers. They went by whatever were provided to them.</p>
<p>Dnt make abosolute comments.<br />
Bullshit</p>
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