Caylee Marie Anthony, then 2 years old, was last seen in mid June. Her disappearance has caused so much havoc across the globe. Her mother, Casey Anthony is being held on charges of first degree murder. The prosecutors are accusing Casey of killing her daughter and it appears that basically not many others thinks differently except for her parents and brother. My question to that though is, do they REALLY think she is innocent or are they just supporting her because no one else will?
The country went day and night searching for little Caylee. Some were looking for a live Caylee and others were searching for a deceased Caylee. George and Cindy Anthony were dead set against anyone that looked for the deceased Caylee though, even when Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch got involved after Cindy herself called Tim in on the search. She didn’t want him to look for a deceased Caylee at all. Tim’s organization searched for both and basically that is what he was doing. Cindy had a huge problem with Tim and she made no secret of it. She wanted everyone to know she only wanted people to look for a live Caylee.
On December 11, 2008 a meter reader took a break to “relieve himself” while working in the area that the Anthony’s live. It was in a swampy area within walking distance from their home. He spotted the garbage bag and when he kicked it a child’s skull rolled out. Roy Kronk called 911 and reported it and from that day forward his life has not been the same.
He reportedly had called law enforcement several times in August to report something suspicious in the same swampy area. “If you were going to get rid of something like that, it would be a great place to hide it,” he said on The Good Morning America Show.
He said he called to report a bag that he saw on August 11th but the deputy that responded to the call couldn’t find anything or him for that matter. He said he called the crime hotline the next day and the information was given to the sheriff’s office.
Then on August 13 he called again but this time he met a police officer. “There was water there in August and I guess the deputy didn’t want to go out in the water to look at the bag,” said Kronk.
Certain accusations against Kronk since he discovered what has been proven to be the remains of little Caylee has now forced Kronk to hire a lawyer and appear on national TV to defend himself. He says he is innocent of any wrong doing and he has never met any of the Anthony’s. He did admit some of his shady past which has made people question his credibility.
“The only reason that I came forward with it was I have nothing to hide,” said Kronk. “I didn’t want this to happen, what’s already happening.”
This case gets stranger by the minute. Everyone finds themselves with their own theories about how all this came about and who is involved and if they were involved before or after the fact. I bet that there is a lot more to this story than any of us know.
There are so many twisted stories coming out, like for instant the private investigators beef with each other over the video that hit the airwaves taken back in November of one investigator, Dominic Casey walking through the wooded area that Caylee’s remains were found. The video was shot by another investigator, James Hoover. Now so many explanations came out about this video starting from the investigators to their lawyers and then from the Anthony’s attorney Brad Conway and then to a psychic, Ginnette Matcia Lucas that claims she was the one talking to Dominic Casey on the phone when he was in the wooded area. Now I do have my doubts about her. If this was all true it would have been said outright from the beginning but Dominic Casey first told a reporter that he was on the phone with an ill daughter of his and now the story has changed conveniently. (Does that sound familiar?)
I am sure little Caylee is in heaven looking down at them wondering why all the lies. I am sure she is watching her grandmother telling people who are NOT going to be invited to Caylee’s funeral once they decide to finally lay this precious child to rest. She is watching her mother every day as Casey orders her goodies and paying for it with the money that good honest people are donating to her account in jail. She is probably wondering why her Mommy did what she did to her and why she is now acting like she just doesn’t care. The Anthony’s are still hurting this little baby even now that she is no longer alive. What a shame that is, especially when it doesn’t have to be this way.
Caylee we remember you and we know you are in a better place. America loves you honey. God bless you and all the other children that are up there with you.
Jan Barrett
















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Woohooooooooo New Blog. you suck Pickles lmao.
I wanted to be first. Not fair, you got tipped off
Pickles cheated!
Nice post Jan. Can’t wait to discuss it.
Hey Gracie….wassup ladie…
jan AWSOME!!!! you always write great articles..simon to i suppose if everyone involved with this case had been honest from the beginning it would be easier to believe mr.kronk, seems e1 has a alterior motive behind what they are doing and it all sems to revolve aroun $$$$…even the grandparents who are suppose to be greving and wanting the truth have thier hand in the $$$ pot..as we all knew c wont change her controlling ways are just to hard to controll banning people from this childs funeral her last effort of controll…if she had her way anyone that didnt believe that m murdered her daughter would not be invited wich would me almost no one would attend….its sad to see hoe greedy people are around anyones death(ive seen alot) but the death of this precious child is a little much shes not even burried yet and all any one wants is cash….hopefully justice will prevail and the right people will stay and end up in jail..if they dont they will have to deal with the lord above who i believe is watching out for little caylee now…rember the one tiny hair left behind…..
What for do you mean PAW69..I have no inside connection here..
aww…..i thought i got here first…no one was here i posted and e1 beat me
darn!!!! sneaky people 
Thank You so much Jan & Simon for the new Blog and for the awesome articles. Simon, Jan doesn’t work hard enough. I think she needs more to do
Just kidding hehehe 
Anna, Pickles cheats, She has inside involvement. She’s guilty
CA - You were asking about the abandoned house?
There was some discussion about it the other day - if it’s the same house you’re talking about - and some people thought it was too risky for M to leave Caylee there for a couple of reasons. She could wake up and wander out or the kids or whoever goes into places like that could find her. What was it you had in mind about that house if I haven’t hit the mark yet?
***kicks a pebble at Pickles***
It’s so sad that Caylee’s name is circled with $$$ signs. What is wrong with these people? Don’t answer that, I already know the answer. But seriously, I realize Casey is their daughter and all, But how can you protect your daughter and ignore the overwhelming evidence, and not stand up for your granddaughter. Caylee didn’t ask for any of this. I still think a gag order should have been put in place from the very beginning. I bet 85% of the people involved now, wouldn’t have been involved if there was a gag order in place. Caylee WILL have the LAST word in the end.
anna - you got to the blog in the early hours before anyone! We need to take turns now LMAO
I posted this on the other blog, doesn’t relate to the article but if you will:
C~A ( the woods is the real nanny) said,in January 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm Hi Guys…I was thinkin while out on my run…about the chlorie..and how we all thought she was druggin baby since the searches were done on her comp.
If the baby wasn’t chloried to sedate her then it was searched with the premeditation of murder, and how she might need something toxic to clean it up any evidence after she killed her…so how did she die?
They might argue it could be for something very innocent as wanting to clean something etc…then it wouldn’t be in HIGH concentration in the trunk where a dead body was housed.
I also wonder if we are no longer believing due to suffocation ( which actully could have been cause of death in the end) that baby was being babysat by the trunk over time, the the million dollar question is STILL…WHERE WAS CAYLEE FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS OF HER LIFE.
Leads back to new abandoned house theory? Is it really secluded? Does anyone know if the area was frequented by peeps or was the hang out far away?
PLEASE SOMEONE TRY TO ANSWER THE LAST QUESTION…I ASKED 3 TIMES SO FAR IF ANYONE HAS ANY IDEAS
Gracie - THank you for the link to the click news site. THat’s exactly why I like to have the sources.
The first post said that C had emailed wftv but that didn’t jibe with me because I know C hates wftv and I had been checking wftv pretty regularly and there was no info about it.
When you posted the link to the other news site and I could read the article it all made sense - more than the posts did. C wrote Dakota’s mother who probably gave Ch6 or whoever a copy.
What I want to know is what triggered C to write to Dakota’s mother? That would be interesting to know, too. Have you heard anything about that?
CA - I responded - Please scroll up!
Thanks MTC - I picture this abandoned house in the woods, just trying to clarify it’s location, cause THERE WAS NO NANNY, and if the trunk was way too hot…where was caylee all that time then? NOT with M or she wouldn’t have made up the nanny story in the first place..m wouldn’t spend every minute of everyday with baby…she had to be SOMEWHERE…away from m?
Has anyone else noticed this post on WDBO.com website about Leevil?
http://wdbo.com/news/leeanthony_11409.html
Armchair Critics take aim at Lee Anthony
wonder if m ever told annie about zanny
Hey, Pickles! You should write Nancy Grace right now with all your tips on how to get beads out of little noses. Now that NG has two little noses she better watch her bead making area very closely!!!! LOL!
CHEATER, CHEATER, PUMPKIN EATER NA NA NA NA NA1
MTC - I heard that Kruger Rockafella said the little girl couldnt go to caylees funeral! I would assume the girls mother send a straight up email about maggot for kruger to jump into defense mode AGAIN
*kicks pebbles back* at j0ooh
If she used the secluded house, she could have duct taped her to keep her still every time she did it. kids or anyone may not frequent there anymore like they use to when she was younger. I’ll be back in a minute, cooking dinner too.
C~A
About that last question. I’m still not convinced she wasn’t in the trunk all those times. I know people talked about the nights getting cold (or hot) but it still makes more sense to me that she had to be in the trunk, as it is the only place she can be sure no one will come across her by accident. The abandoned house would just be too risky. What if she was discovered there..too risky!
CA - Well we don’t really know how much time M left Caylee alone. All I know about is when she dated Tony L. Otherwise she dragged Caylee to Ricardo’s where she slept in the same bed and to parties where people told her it wasn’t right. When else do we know of that M for sure left Caylee somewhere? For all we know she dragged Caylee everywhere - stores, malls, etc during the previous months. Plus there were plenty of times M had made up work to go to so her parents would watch her.
So I’m really not sure how often M did leave Caylee alone somewhere. Any particular times in mind?
Ya said it well Jan… Welcome to the flea circus…where sleeping dogs don’t lay…they LIE.
I would love the PI video to leak with audio. Then we would know exactly who’s egg was gonna fry.
Is it Bobo? Leevil??? Sin????
All I know is if I were the OCSO I’d make that stupid so called psychic present her phone records by the end of the week and when she couldn’t (or the records told a different story) slap her smart ass and dummy-dick both with obstruction of justice.
Just cus my hair is the same color as a pumpkin dont mean I eat pumpkin
Most of the time that we know that Caylee was not with M was when we believe Caylee was already dead. June 15 on.
Bleh like we already know people don’t like leevil…nothing new.
Okay. I missed a boat here. Who in the double heck is Kruger Rockafella ? Is that Leevil?
And now Dakota can’t go to the funeral?
Sindee is certifiable.
I think NO ONE should go to the public funeral. Everyone should gather by the site where the remains were found and Rev Grund should say a few words and lead a prayer.
Let the ants stand and wait for their “audience.” Eff ‘em.
I have no clue now as to where she was keeping Caylee while out and about…she referred to her mom as nanny before…in txt msgs to amy about a party..she referred to cindy as the nanny and that no nanny tonite cus her mom got home to late
Goldie:
True, but interesting that LE is taking time to respond on the record to Leevil attorney remark.
In addition to which Dakota should be removed from her family’s care if they were even considering letting Dakota go to it. THe kid has been mentally screwed up by this case and should be kept as far away from it as possible!
I wouldnt go if I was paid to…they all have xploited Caylee and they suck
But she went on for two years leaving the house with caylee saying she is going to work and dropping caylee at nannies…she would have had to leave the house pretending she had a job…my minds eye seeing her doing this everyday…how did she keep up the whole job thingy with g and sin if she didn’t leave with caylee….or have they known ALL along…she didn’t have a job…which is why sin is covering up about nanny…trying to cover a murder by saying…THERE WAS NO NEED TO TALK TO THE SITTER…MY A@@
NOt one art paper, not one phone call from or to nanny by sin, not one meeting, not one mention of zanny by baby..not one picture .not one phone call record of maggot to “the nanny”…c has to be lying about zanny… she knew there was never a nanny…how could you NOT know..with all of the above…I hope they nail sin to the wall….
She was keeping her zonked on chloroform in the car or in a motel room if she could get some skank chasing ween to pay for it IMO
Yah..I think she was hooker in a brothel taking Caylee to the brothel and doing her business…maybe the other hoe’s were watching Caylee while she …jah kno.
CA - Remember that G was unemployed part of that time and could look after Caylee. So M didn’t have to take her to a “nanny” everytime she went to work. And the gparents did babysit at night and they’d still call M and tell her she had to come home. So I’m not sure how many times M really did have to put Caylee somewhere before all this blew up.
MTC - I referred to sindee and g as MR.and MRs. Rockafella after their stay at the ritz…
She has been called sindee krueger many times…as in Freddy so I just put the two together…
No hookers like to talk and brag and get attention (just like this baby killing hooker does). If that were the case then someone (or a lot of someones) would have talked to get some $$$
so why the nanny bullcrap…?? She was lying about her because she was doing something bad to her….OR was she never really left anywhere but nanny made up to try to provide her alibi cause she STILL HAD PLANS TO KILL HER… I wonder when Zanny was really made up…like a few months before she killed…still makes krueger rockafellar a liar..either way…
Zanny was made up when she still felt safe doping the poor baby up with Xanax so she could sneak out without the baby waking up S n G.
Then Sin and Grinch caught her doing that and Grinch threatened to drug test the baby if she ever did that again.
As controlling as C is, She would have known everything about the nanny. She would have even done a background check on the nanny.
CA, sorry, I have not been feeling well. But I did put that theory out there about the house then left you hanging… so sorry.
I do think the house was the nanny. Because of the two names around the property as I noted in the last post. Can someone cut and paste because I feel horrible and don’t want to retype the whole theory again.
I have always thought she was keeping Caylee in the car….thats where she ended up in the end…the car..
Is FLorida hot all year long..even at night?
Car isn’t going to get that hot again at night after the sun goes down Pickles
***kick***
CA @ 5:41 THank you! I missed that. I still don’t know what triggered the email to Dakota’s mother or why C/Sindee is banning her from the funeral. What caused all that?
Good going, Sindee! Traumatize another young girl!
Picks… FL is too hot to keep a toddler or a pet for that matter in the car. I don’t believe that is where she kept the baby. Not possible without killing her (earlier)
Her and the mother have been having an email flame war with each other since the body was found. That is why she is banning her.
The story:
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=98098&catid=8
Even if we just focus on April through June, those two months alone would have been the death of Caylee if she were in the trunk or even the regular car with the window open. The thing about FL - and I know because I live here - it is not only the temp, but the humidity. While at night it is cooler, the car takes all night to cool down and you STILL need the air conditioner on in the car in the evening.
sillybutt - I guess I’m being silly to even discuss such speculation but I don’t believe that M left Caylee in that abandoned house.
Many people driving by who’d know her, see her taking Caylee in or out. Bugs, snakes, spiders, chiggers, the child would have come home in terrible shape. Not to mention that someone could find her by accident. I just don’t go for that theory.
c~a i believe m was drugging baby for a long time…her jelousy and anger at c and the fact that caylee was learning to talk set her off the final time..ive tried to figure out wher she was only answer i could come up with was the trunk…also how irresponsible of c not to have a emergency # who does that..and she trys to potray them like the brady bunch or a g says a hand id like to ball my hand in a fist and really pop her one …and HARD!!!!
K JooH all cya later (I think)
throws BIG snowball at all bloggers….BRRR…
Thank you Goldie! I didn’t know about that news site.
Wow. I just don’t understand why (1) Dakota’s family can’t just butt the heck out of the case at least for their daughter’s sake and (2) why conway hasn’t duct taped Sindee’s hands AND mouth!
m2c, yes the baby would have come home in terrible shape from the house - maybe, but more so from the trunk of a car i would think.
my theory is just a theory… not married to it. i just can’t figure where the hell Caylee was all of those times she was with Zanny the imaginary nanny.
and the fact that on either side of the woods are names that end up making the imaginary nanny name (long before Caylee was murdered or ZFG went to the apartment) is astonishing to me as a pure conincd. just saying
cough, sneeze, cough… argh…i feel like kaka
pumpkins good pumpkin pie gonna have one with sunday dinner ummmm….
Okay all, I need to go for now. I’ll try to be back later. Be good to each other.
blah, must back to bed… will stop by later:)
muah ladies and gents
omg just had a thought…wonder how c’s gonna act at the public memorial…suppose she will pas a offering tray??? or try and be a media hound thru it horrible!!!
I have always thought the trunk played a huge part in caylees life as well as chlorie. and I still do…but someone talked about the heat and air quality…I am sure she couldnt have done it for long…but maybe a few times which led to her death…maggot decided JUNE 15 after midnight that was the night….which is why she ended up staying in the trunk (where she died) till she started smell….then m thought putting her in the yard till she figured out what to do with her…to alleviate the smell and prevent it from gettin detectable and worse…then back to the trunk and then the woods.
HA Puttin’ On The Ritz! That’s C & G, but they can’t quite cut it, can they.
C~A I don’t want to leave you hanging out in the wind. Don’t have many ideas except this one. I know she had a girlfriend who she USED big time when Caylee was little.She baby sat for her. Friend thought M was working. Nice M.
And possibly she rotated between many “nanny’s”.
The trunk - if it was going to be a cool night? (Wonder if she checked the weather?) Sometimes G (I have to work late Dad, BIG EVENT!), sometimes C.,sometimes took her to the parties where she slept HARD some friends said - (drugged no doubt). Maybe at Lee’sapartment sometimes? Maybe that house/shed? If she tied her with Duct tape, she could have. Users are very creative and adaptable. I know one. After all, she didn’t love Caylee… despised her I think, so everything - anything was possible. Proof of the pudding, she’s dead. Sometimes I focus in on one thing, but many times it’s more than one thing going on. Even found that out at the Drs.
sillybutt - I sorry you feel like ka ka. Please feel better soon.
You know it is interesting how many times the names Zenaida and Gonzales came up in M’s life.
She knew kids by those names in school. May have read that children’s book herself! Plus the name at Sawgrass. Plus how handy that Zanny is a nickname for xanax (the drug) and an easy nickname for zenaida. Maybe it’s ALL those reasons combined that made M choose it
(especially the Zenaida part).
she didnt die at home…
THe other thing about duct tape. It hurts like heck coming off and can even take skin with it I believe. So I’m not really sure how often M would dare use it on a baby’s skin.
I don’t mean to be stubborn here but we’re really just not sure how often M left Caylee anywhere. I can see her driving all over town, shopping, parking and jabbering on the phone with her friends with the poor baby stuck in the car seat bored to tears. And we know she took Caylee to parties and overnights with bfs in the months before all this mess. So she may not have left her in the trunk or taped up anywhere (much) at all. Didn’t have to before she met Tony L. who didn’t want Caylee around. And shortly after that - no more Caylee.
betty - your right….she didn’t have to be doing ONE thing with baby…she flew by the seat of her pants everyday from the moment she opened her eyes…zanny was prob. 5-10 different places and peeps…when do you think she made up the zanny story? Same time she planned her murder and researched chlorie back in may i think….wouldnt doubt that, and sindee goes along with the story…playing stupid when she say….”there was no need to call the nanny”…she such a liar…doens’t love caylee only maggott.
Okay, maybe it is the drugs I am on… but who the H is Dakota?? I feel like Rumplestlskin.. Help me????
CA - I don’t think C even loves Maggot. Not anymore. Remember she said she didn’t care about M. I think Sindee is all about Sindee.
That HER daughter wouldn’t do this. Because it all reflects on HER!
If she loved her daughter she would have gone to see her. Even to sit quietly, tell her I love you. I support you. How are you? But no visits all these past months. Nope. This mom don’t love this daughter anymore than this daughter loved poor little Caylee.
when m left that night prob mad and frantic cuz no where to go tony didnt want caylee there so m gave her zanax taped her after.before she fell asleep drove around maybee caylee was upset at having to leave in a hurry and was cring or having a fit and wanted to go home m being selfish just wanted to shut her up dosed her taped her put in trunk….heat in the trunk gets hot m didnt think about that …poor caylee if thats the way she suffred…imo!
Lilred - remember 12 year old girl, Dakota, who organized some vigils for Caylee early in the case? And M wrote her notes and sent her stuff and then Sindee did too. And Dakota ended up hospitalized from all the stress.
Her mom tried to get a restraining order to keep M and Sindee from communicating with her but did not succeed. Don’t know what started up this exchange of emails.
m2c dakotas gma prob wanted funeral info…shouldnt have let the girl communicate with m specially how upset it got her..maybe dakotas gmom was aother media hound….rember murt??? how she was on the mike talking???
murt wasnt happy about that rember???
New story just posted in last 30 minutes on WFTV.com
Psychic’s Credibility Questioned amid claims She talked to PI
http://www.wftv.com/news/18482075/detail.html
in part …
“WFTV reporter Kathi Belich talked to a family member from another murder mystery 20 years ago who said psychic Ginette Lucas took her money and gave her useless information in return.”
anna - Oh, yes. I hold Dakota’s family totally responsible. If she was my daughter I’d have moved out of Florida if I had to. There is no way she’d have contact with the ants again for her own health. I’m afraid Dakota’s mom and/or gma are nuts too - and like you said media hounds. I wish child services would investigate them!
WFTV.com article also says:
… Eyewitness News legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said that the actions of the detectives lead him to believe that the video may have been staged (watch interview) for Casey’s defense team.
“What better location to go to than an abandoned house where someone by the name of Gonzalez used to live,” Sheaffer said.
Tim, your post 5:31. What if Caylee were taped, and discovered in that house/shed…
Ms. THING is fast on her feet with answers!M could say if Caylee was “discove(depending on what time of the day the discovery was made) different answers like…
“She was asleep in here room … somebody kidnapped her! I didn’t hear a thing! How COULD they do this to my baby?”
Or, “I ran out to a 7-11 for 8 minutes, and when I came back she was gone!”
Or “I didn’t notice she was gone until the next day when I went in her room…”
I suppose she would have done more searches on this subject, or maybe she did already.
I have CONFIDENCE in her,and the tales she weaves while on her feet!! Fast.
Jane VM will be on in about 20 minutes!
media i saw that to… ythe whole case is a circus imo!
anna
Wild, huh?
I’m loving that everyone in the media is hot on the trail of this Psychic story … makes it that much harder for the defense to hide the truth regarding the PI’s phone records
M2C… I agree with 6:23 post…
no, I don’t believe Sin was ever a good mother to M or LV.. Casey, same as mom (even said on the jail tape) certainly was not a good mother to
Caylee. It truly is true, the apple doesn’t fall from the tree… I DO think that saying has been said waaaaay to many times!!!!
In no way am I condonning (spell oops) was m did.. but this family has soooo dysfunctional from minute 1…. it is no wonder this horrible thing
happened in this family. Poor little Caylee paid with her life….
If you really looked at this from afar… it is self-perpecuating (spell opps) situation. It truly is so sad for so many reasons..
m2c if social services havent they arent doing thier job if people like us notice this stuff..arent they suppose to be trained??? and why were they talking to begin with c&gma??? i know i said funeral arrangement but funny how the email got “leaked” hmm.by who i wonder..another media hound!!! dakotas gmom!! what a bunch of a$$e$!!!
Thanks M2C… you always come thru!!!! ((hugs))
I don’t think dakotas g ma did anything wrong talkin in murts car..she was really only talking on the phone mostly…and said she didn’t want to touchanything…I didn’t see the harm.
I also have to wonder was her loyalty to casey or caylee…casey befriended her…and prob. totally confused her…now that caylee is dead…the girl might very well need to have some closure and to heal…that is what funerals are for right, to say goodbye…I mean..the damage is done with g ma allowing her such involvment in the first place, we cant change that, what they can change is how she comes out of it…if sidee denies the needs of yet another child..someone should shoot her between the eyes…she is using dakota as a pawn to the words of the g ma…just like she is using caylee now for her own sake and how both her and maggot used caylee against eachother….sindee is using caylee as a tool once again…to get what she wants…
MTC … yes,duct tape rough on babies skin. Right. Now I am getting into (God help me) the head of this lunatic. OK, put a piece of fabric like a doubled up scarf, or a hand towel, on poor little caylee’s wrists, THEN put the duct tape on top of that - tight! Would that do it? Maybe an adult could get out of that, but not a little 2 year old? This worm didn’t work and had all the time in the world to figure things out for who? FOR ONLY HER BENEFIT! Now she has more time than EVER!
Maybe collectively WE should write a book about this when it’s over?
For The Love Of Caylee - by Bloggernews.net ??
Lil:
Don’t know if you are interested, but if so, here’s a link to a website that outlines some Herbal Remedies for RA -
http://www.holisticonline.com/Remedies/Arthritis/arth_RA_herbal_med.htm
I am allergic to all antibiotics so my husband planted me a “wellness garden” and we grow lots of herbs that can be used in place of antibiotics for different things.
Some people don’t believe in it, but luckily for me, the herbal remedies seem to work in place of the antibiotics when I need them.
oh boy im PO!!!! my daughter 12 yr went to friends house walking no hat mittens(hair might get messed up) its -14 with colder wind chills…GIRLS gonna kick her butt when she comes in..even worse shes gonna wear friends sons hat home..ha ha on her little stinker!!!
aww betty nice idea! We also thought of using the words of the blog day by day as a true timeline on how things went down…all the opinions and theories…verbatim..A documentary..of day to day in the life of a blog created for ‘THE LOVE OF CAYLEE….
We would call it…
WE ARE THE STORM ~ JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE
C-A I am sorry I didn’t see your first post, but I finally did…
That is a damn good question, how did she die??? If m didn’t drug her,
she prob suffocated her. It would not take much for such a small child.
To be honest C-A I hate thinking about how she died. It really still makes me cry…
If the cloriform did not kill her and was something else…. to maybe clean
up, then only the m knows.
dysfunctinal(spelling) or not there is no excuse for simple human compassion for another human being…how does a person involve themselves in only themselfs how does one not have human emotion for thier child..even the most disfunctional familys have at least one person among them with true heartfelt feelings…this family must have a molicule missing from the brain or heart they are all sleazy and money grubbing…how do you not care about a child??? that age is so cute and full of wonder and most of all that age usually adores thier parent looks up to them for ethink(right up m ally) whats wrong with this family???
I read it was to put reasonable doubt in the mind of jurors by the defense team…see the body wasnt there then..and since killr was eithr in jail or on house arrest then the real killr dumped the body there when it was found in December.
anna - I know…we thought for months she went to sleep…when theories started to change it was really hard for me…when the neck breakin searches were aired..etc…Whatever she did to her…she felt the need to keep her mouth shut so the evidence would decay and be destroyed…if she called right away, who knows when she would have been found, and there might have been obvious casue ofdeath…
by the way…you only missed the o after i..
yep ething they do is for reasonable doubt..wheres the story were gonna go “oh now i understand?” they dont have one!!!
**slap***
OUCH! THAT HURT
Oh I understand she killed her kid to get laid’
not that bad after all.. pretty sad i dont use spell x :)…all the senerios they have come up with are sometimes to immaginable…whae i was preg with my son i had a dream about a brn eyed girl with brownish hair…was convinced i was having a girl can see her in my mind…now i see it looks like caylee cuz none of my daughers look like her..just realised that a couple of weeks ago didnt tell you guys thought you might think i was nuts or making it up….wierd huh??
was 16-17 at the time of the dream almost 20 yrs later…..
You know what… all this take about HOW Caylee actually died, it making me so very sad. I don’t know about all of you but I can not even look at
pictures of her.. in fact I haven’t been able to for a looong time.
the pic of her in white shirt can only see her face and upper part leaning on a pillow same face as my dream long ago….
I dont know all of you but I am sick of hearing what others are doing in this case….it’s kinda like the calm before the storm…the storm will hit hard on the whole damn family once baby is buried…or cremated in this case…such stupidity…worrying over someone diggin her up…PAAAAAALEEEEEEEEEEEEE
they want all evidence she ever lived to be gone…down to the ashes like down to bones is not f’ing enough for them….they will pay for every decision they have ever made regarding both casey and caylee…I hope they suffer…you don’t cremate a baby that has been through so much already.
Its been over a month now…they are draggin burial out as long as they can…they want to enjoy their last days of freedom….just like maggot did! IMO
what do you guys think??? strange huh???
Anna… yeah, I know… it is killing me. I hope m is punished, big time.
c~a did you see my 7:01 post?? what do you think???
anna
I think it is one of those strangely beautiful things that happen in life … and even more amazing that you still remember the dream and the face in the dream in such detail so many years later.
C~A ( the woods is the real nanny) said,
in January 14th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
MTC - I referred to sindee and g as MR.and MRs. Rockafella after their stay at the ritz…
She has been called sindee krueger many times…as in Freddy so I just put the two together…
Yeah Sindee Krueger was after my dream about Sindee eeek! lol! She invades your dreams smelling like sun tan lotion!
you guys think im weird??? ok dont answer that…about my ddream looong ago???
anna - that’s weird…and that you remember it…
Lil - I know it’s hard to think of how she died but it is something I hope is found out as it would nail killer real good…I find myself walking out of the room on commercials on NG to come back here…as soon as caylee comes on it stops me in my tracks…I am compelled to stay and watch…I just stare at her takin in all her beauty….
Anna that is strange..its just revelations in your dreams…You were being revealed stuff from the future
I was gettng dinnr ready..sorry
pickles…did jooh go and slap “me” ?
I hate when I have dreams that like really happen in life…dejavu or whatever ppl call it…trips me out…It happens alot..but I just ignore it now cus I dont like the feeling…inside when it happens..and my dreams are always in color…like way detailed….bleh…I kinda like scary dreams…there fun…aint gonna hurt me so why not…
pic&c~a i only rember cuz i was so convinced i was having a girl and she was beautifull big brown eyes and hair my son is blond and blue as are both daughters altho youngest has blueish green eyes…just weird to me..not crazy yet..thanks for the reply been afraid to say thought you all might think i was making it up or something!
Naww I was slappng Fish..sorry
Anna your so sweet..
I had a dream when I was preggers with my boy and I walkd out of a store and my water broke on the sidewalk….
Well it did break naturally but not on a sidewalk…
i havent had a deja voo in awhile use to scare the heck out of me tho…this i rembered cus i expected my child to be a girl and look like that….HEY DID YOU SLAP ME TOOO!!!! i felt that:)
Anna I like the
at the end of joooh’s name!!
there is a pretty picture of Caylee sitting in a Childs (CAR SEAT) holding one of her dolls, was the(childs car seat) in the front or back seat of the car when they found it ?or was it in the poniac at all ? any one know this?
usually photos taken from a digital camera will show the date it was taken … if it was that sort of camera …
*PimPSlaP* kachoww a round for the room!!!
Hi Pickles! How yoo doin? I love reading your posts. They’re so interactive. Anxiously awaiting talking to you guys again. Jan’s post is soo good, especially having the links in there. Hope you have a nice supper, hubby’s cooking for me tonight.
hi pickles how are you ? going to watch J.V.M catch ya later
The car seat was in the car…
In that pic of Caylee the shoulder cushions arent even on her shoulders there on her chest its weird..
the car seat was in the car..The dol..Im not sure…
Anna… no, I don’t think it is strange at all. It only proves that you care
deeply about such a moving and emotional situation.. it proves too, that you are a very loving person.. that is a GOOD thing.
Hey Nanna!! Im fine
Gracie…thank you!!
Yes dinner…Tuna casserole…mmmm mmm mmm good..
I’m thinking Caylee’s doll was in the car too. I think C made a comment that was Caylee’s favorite doll. : (
my first child watter broke when going pee..was wondering why i was peeing pants just wouldnt stop
was young had no idea of what to expect…well my daughter still has ears intact
no frostbite thank goodness.. even with no hat..made big threats if she does this again…im soooo mean:) 
I feel that we(all of us) care very, very deeply about a child we never knew, but took into our heart as our own… In my book, we loved Caylee prob more than anyone in her young life ever did..
Yah…Caylee had that doll since birth it was her bebe….
Thats why I think the book and blanket werent because killr wanted to send Caylee’s body off with her prized possessions…she woulda put the doll with the body…I think the book was cus of the nanny story
back again yes it looked like a childs car seat
wonder where I could find that photo .the abandon house the owner id Hernan gonzales
i went over the artical twice it says the house where Hernan G, lives strange? misprint?
I dont know nothing about that…the house or anything…
anna - YOU are not weird…I have so many stories that I could tell you about same stuff…I totally believe in dreams and analyse my own quite a bit..as well as I believe I when I am in a semi concious state, kinda aware of the fact I am in bed but kinda on the verge of being asleep, that I have had people come to me visually as well as voices talking which is almost been non existent in my dreams my whole life….life change looking for the remains of my deceased baby brother…it started happening but not much now…it’s all real to me and I totally hear ya!
Anna.. yeah, you big meannie!!! LOL kids, what are you going to do??
ROFL….
there is a picture of the abandoned house on word press-hernan gonzales’ abandoned house.
Mang this story has gotten so much attention…
Seriously some old abandoned house has a pic on word press..its far out there…
Pickles … I found it YES she is sitting in a Childs Car Seat… she has a beige ball cap on little white top ,puff short sleeve,& pair of jeans on the Doll she is holding has a pink outfit on maybe PJs its a beautiful photo it could be in the anthony auto. a child is not allowed in a car unless buckled in / suppose the tot mom got rid of it tooo ??? answer this for me ok???
How i found the photo I went to Googles typed in caylees photos, and sure enough there it was
I feel I really drew that part of my mind out when I was deep in the search…like able to connect and see and hear cause I wanted it so much…and signs…dont get me going on signs…like “that is a sign”…of a direction or decision was made was right or wrong kinda thing…I love that stuff…the paranormal, communicating with the other side….I have even considered joining the paranormal investigative group in OTtawa….but never have the time to committ…maybe someday
I’m thinking there weren’t very many times kilr really had to hide her anywhere.
Jesse’s family watched her two days a week for a long period of time in the early months.
Her friend, Lauren, watched Caylee for free for several months. That ended when Lauren found out kilr wasn’t working just hanging out with friends.
Parents had her just about every evening and weekends. Kilr would sleep til 9 or 10 a.m. Dad would give Caylee breakfast a lot of times. Kilr would dress, pretend to go to work (unless Dad didn’t have to work, then he would watch her until GmaA got home).
Kilr would sometimes just drop Caylee at GmaA’s work and tell her she had an event, could she take Caylee home?
I think she either took Caylee out for a little bit of just running around or shopping and returned home while the parents were at work. Could swim, watch, tv, probably put Caylee down for a nap, cruised her my space/internet, then left again just before they got home.
Kilr could then rush in for dinner hour, drop Caylee off, then head back to “work”. That would leave Kilr evenings free with gma watching Caylee, putting her to bed. All she has to do is roll in around midnight or later, sleep again until 9 or 10 am.
Nights she wanted to stay out, made up the Nanny story, but those nights both she and Caylee were at INSERT MONTH HERE: boyfriend’s.
This changed when grdma started feeling the $$$$$ stealing, credit card abuse, cussing out, was on giant rip off, Kilr taking advantage.
It was only then that kilr had to figure out some other way. G was beginning to question Caylee. “Did you have a good time at Zanny’s today?” No recognition on Caylee’s part at all. Caylee was also getting to the age where she was going to be able to talk more, Kilr’s stories were in danger of being found out.
Also, the old abandoned house-WFTV.com (channel 9) has a video about it posted on the web.
nana - That pic should be titled..the amazing wonders of a childs expression! I wonder what she was thinking and lookin at. Didn’t sindee have a suv? This was a car, so must be maggots..
Ohh so her sitter in the beginning was using everyone around her..
She wasnt really working just hanging out with friends…letting her other friends watch Caylee that makes sense..
Sheller THANK YOU FOR POSTING ALL THAT…makes alot of sense..
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hi C~A well I dont know which Vehicle it was, but the car seat looks new , youve seen that phot as well c~A wonder if the police took it out of anthonys garage ??
Thanks Pickles Another idea that has been driving me crazy for a while. Thanks. Took me so long to read all the blogs yesterday I hardly had time to write anything at the end. Good stuff all you bloggers.
People who want to send money to Casey should call the jail and see if there is some one more needed and give your money to them.
According to the video on WFTV (channel 9)
they are proposing that the whole PI video thing is probably a defense team set up. They say they think that it is all planned to draw attention to the Gonzales’ being the owners of the abandoned house. Watch it!
You were all talking weather a while back. 60 here day before yesterday and maybe 16 tonight with snow.
I took one of the Ns out of my name LOL
Timbit..I read that too..its a scam to plant doubt in the possible jurors mind…I heard it was cus they want ppl to think the real killr dumpd her body there…
Sheller…It makes alot of sense..her ditching Caylee everywhere to be cared for..I know a chick just like that…
Hi Smith!! Yah dont send killr your money..no!!
YIKES! And, yet ANOTHER ring in this circus! I read the article about the emails between her and the other psycho, Lois, grandmother to the girl Dakota. Now, if you look at Dakota’s myspace (or whatever it is), she is made up to look about 17!
Can we PLEASE keep all nonimportant pieces of news out of this case? Between the stupid psychic and the moronic PI and who is he talking to and the meter reader on Today Show.. I am completely DIZZY.
And.. Cindy… your granddaughter was missing, you were heartbroken.. BUT.. you still took a stranger.. a 12 year old girl clothes shopping and spent $500??
Who’s money?
Cool Nana!!
If I were a young single mother living with my parents and working, and had to use a paid babysitter or nanny while I was at work, there would be so much different in place. For one thing, there would be a list of emergency phone numbers at home including that of the nanny and another one of me at my workplace. Doesn’t it strike anybody here odd that a nurse and an ex detective would not have those phone numbers at their home in order to contact Casey and/or Caylee in case of emergency? Another thing, with Caylee in the care of a nanny, I would probably have had several occasions in which my parents would have met the nanny either for handing off purposes or just to be sociable, for example inviting to our home for dinner our out for coffee.
In St.Louis, they are predicting -22 tomorrow. THAT is very, very cold for us. In fact they closed the schools tomorrow..(I don’t get that??..I guess the kids who have to stand at the bus stop)
Anyone here from N. Dakota?? I heard it is something like -44…eeks that is cold!!
Elaine-
They may not all end up being unimportant pieces. Its sounding more and more like the PI video (and phone call) may end up being very important to the case.
pickles … remove for me a post where it says nanna of two, its on googles just as we look for bloggers news net ,,, ‘ITS on the one (like casey its in the can ??? will you remove that for me, its at the front page where the world can see thank you i will appreciate that
TimBit….
post 7:56 , your post, I what way do you think they may be important?
Think I am getting goofy..(meds) do you mind explaining, thanks!
Hello everyone! NG is claiming leevil may get criminal immunity ! mmmhmmmmm getting deeper!
Lulu…excuse me for this.
I found it EXTREMELY odd. (lol) (a repeat of kilr answer during interview at Universal)
I think her using the word Nanny made them all feel they were now being known as “old money” or something. Just a cut above the rest.
I’ve never known anyone who had a nanny, except Wendy, Peter, and John in Peter Pan.
Oh heck and that was a dog, not a real nanny at all. Guess that fits here, too.
It was Wendy, Michael, and John…my bad.
Nana…post the link for me…because I cant find it….what your talkng about.
Nana…post me the link to the google page where it says it and I can navigate to it from there and ask Jan to delet the comment thats showing up on Google.
Nana I am googling and cant find it..find the link to the google page and post it for me…
ok hang on..pickles i will do that
and oh! a lady calls NG remember caylees birthday was Aug 9 th ( Casey say ‘i feel it in my gut she’ll be home for her birthday “? thats the day Roy kronk first called about something suspicious AUG ( /9th
wasnt the calls startin from aug 11 from kronk
Yah I thought it was the 11,12,13th…
Nana I cant find the Google page you are referring to..IF you can find it let me know.
ok this is it..
Caylee Anthony:BNn on Radio-show (and like Casey)it is in the can.) will you please delete the post its not that ,but i dont want it on googles front page thanks again
FREE to good owner kid GIRL 12 acompanyed by MOUTH….. pammy i tell ya id give almost anything to have my girl a small terror than the mouth..then they twist things so they can blame you..or the good one how they question your words or actions…whtd you say that??? did you say this..boy your mean…or if your speach isnt perfect its why did you say mou instead of mouth …kid clean your ears just a small example of whts in store…i know its not just mine e1 i know with girls this age are having the power struggle was it you C~A that said CALGON TAKE ME AWAY??? only i dont want to come back urggggg…….. HELP!!!!
C~A Did you see that they are investigating the deputy that took Kronk’s call in August as to how well he handled it?
Sheller, I agree about the use of the word “nanny” instead of babysitter. It does sound like a term people with a lot of money would use, or people from England. My understanding of a “nanny” is that this is a person educated in child care and a professionally screened, competent caregiver who does this for a career. A nanny usually lives with a family and tends to the children in their home, goes with the family on vacations, etc. A babysitter, on the other hand, is not necessarily skilled, not well paid, and does this work as something “extra” while going to school or raising her own children for extra spending money.
correction “its not that BAD but i dont want it on front page of googles lol sry*****
Nana I googled it and your name doesnt pop up..
You google that same sentence now that you just gave me
google.com/search?hl=en&q=Caylee+Anthony%3ABNn+on+Radio-show+%28and+like+Casey%29it+is+in+the+can.%29&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
THIS IS WHAT I FOUND….AFTER GOOGLING THAT…JUST COPY/PASTE THAT LINK BEHIND THE http://WWW. IN YOUR BROWSER…maybe im not seeing it
anna - OMG - I have found my mouth saying ” I didn’t have kids for this”…and I meant it…the smart mouth, the comments, the loose lips, the excuses, the tantrums the know it all… I have 14,15 and 17 and they have respect issues when it comes right down to it…they are beautiful peeps but are so good at pushin buttons and boundaries…It’s so hard! At least we can put babies to bed…and they don’t tell ya to f off (yet)..ugh!
Nana I think it changed all ready…cus Im not seeing Nanna of 2 anywhere…it might of rotated out all ready
C~A tweenagers…blahhh my little bro is a tweenager…yikes..
i agree with you lulu yes you are so correct a nanny works for people who can afford her
anna
Wait til she’s 20 and tells you, “You know, you were right about all that.” The older they get, the smarter you’ll seem. from Sheller aka mamakeeks of 5
Did Tori ever come back from consulting with her cup of coffee?
i had a long post b4 and pc screwed up relating to dreams c~a nice to know im not the only one who has that stuff..sometimes i dont know if it just me or do other people have thoes to~~ anyway child has drained me shes in the shower now 1 hr till bed…will i make it or not???? probably she gets like this moody i know what shes going thru try and be patient, understanding…and sometimes she comes off a selfish brat!!!! accually a straight a student
but mouthy at x somehow still and always will love the kid with all my heart
see you guys in am..sorry to rant here on blog…i appo;ogise~nite anna
ok thanks pickles your a sweet heart & by the way you have a nice voice on radio lol
Lilred made it…w000t
does any know what happened to Caylees Carseat?
sheller i have a 27 yr old who has a even bigger mouth if possible…still doesnt realise ive lived a little longer and might know whats going on!!! oh yea till you get the call mom what do i do??? what happens if…boy howdy one of these days…POW TO THE MOON!!!
Thanks Nana…
Did you put that in Google…I did…Its not there anymore..it must of rotated out.
Anna your girl is 12…yah major tude then..I remember that age…woooh I was a spit fire to my mom and dad..
Nana Caylee’s car seat was in the car…in the sheriffs garage. Im pretty sure
night all (really this x) {{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}} to my blogger family sweet dreams all & jan&simon…dont let the bed bug bite..not hard at least..till the am …zzzzzzzz
Sheller you have five kids too? ages?
SWEET DREAMS ANNA
I was a dork!
I kept my mouth shut all my life…I now make up for it
G’nite Anna…see jooh in the morning…
Sheller, lol at ‘old $’, my ex mil ( i’m still married to her son but she is oh so an ex ) used that term often. her daddy became an attorney during the depression so they were better than the rest & was she ever a bit~h & a half! we argued well, beings i was from the wrong side of the tracks & all!
seems he’s had complaints before so maybe he’ll get it now. i’m reading the link timbit posted earlier, has the report from 8/13 where he noted gray bag in swamp area.
as for the deputy, i see jelly donuts around him
I think its lazy cop syndrome as to why the body wasnt spotted and recoverd in AUgust
nanaof2 i believe the car seat & the doll both were in the car, along w/ a few diapers.
pickles i think he’s been sited like 3x’s for such actions. he should’ve investigated a bag in the swamp in THAT area for sure!
Hey JRS….sapponin?
I too see jelly donuts and bear claws blocking the foot patrols view who didnt want to get there gloves dirty looking a little harder for the body at Chicksaw trails
Yes the car seat and the doll were in the car…thats why I dont buy the whole she put the book there cus Caylee liked it….IF that was the case she would of left Caylee with her beloved dollie that she toted around forever
*Tap*Tap*…Fishies tank..*Tap*Tap*
C~A yes you are making up for it quite well….cus now you cant keep it shut at all…..
tee hee…
i don’t know why the book either, cuz i remembered the fave doll mama was in the car & that if she cared, umph..umph.., yea as if- she would’ve put her doll w/ her. so the book is odd, still wonder if shoes r there too.
Who was the woman making stuff in the video taken of baby sitting at the table with the book? Where was this?
pickles..on the contrary….I “refuse” to keep it shut! hahahah
that’s the rebel coming out in me ….
thanks jrsfarm just wondering police must have it
i was reading thru earlier while watching ng, how do u make ur tuna cassarole pickles, i have never made one but eat more tuna these days so thought i’d ask
CA - Are you talking about the video of Caylee that may have been taken at the assisted living center?
Took our kids, our one big vacation ever, to Flordia in about 1989. They had a radio game show called Cop or No-Cop. DJ would call donut places and the callin person had to predict cop or no cop to win some prize. True story.
BUT.. I think law enforcement has done a great job in the interviews, investigating, right from the beginning in this case. I think they’ve done a very professional job. The ants and all those physick tips made it harder than it should have been.
I think the woman in the vid was a health care provider at the old folks home Great Grampa was in…”Papa are you tired Papa” is that what she said to the old man?
yeah C~A i believe it was casey… it sounds like her / wasn’t that the last day they believe Caylee was alive ?
What is wrong with le ?
Why hasn’t that abandoned house been taped off and searched ?!
Guess where caylee may have been for long periods of time.
le won’t even listen
c~a, at the old folks home? where caylee is reading? thats where c’s dad is
I think if her book was left with the remains it was because it had icky stuff on it. Had to be “thrown out” with the rest, you know?
What is wrong with le ?
Why hasn’t that abandoned house been taped off and searched ?!
Guess where caylee may have been for long periods of time.
le needs to wake up
Ya I thought it might of been there in the old age home….so she was talkin to great g pa not g grinch! Just wondering why the book was in the bag and it looked like a caregiver or nanny or housekeeper in the vid…supporting the book being in bag cause ‘THE NANNY DID IT”
nana - If I understand what you’re talking about I don’t believe M went to the assisted living center on Father’s Day. Only C and Caylee.
in that video i found caylee to be tired or something was bothering her , she seemed to be hanging to her Great G father like (protect me”) she seemed to be such a loving child bless her
MTC - so your saying that the book may have been in the trunk?
thats the only reason i could think of MTC, i was over thinking how the icky stuff got there, just dawned on me could’ve been from being in the trunk.
5! Born 72, 75, 78, 80, 84.
Anna you have ESP - belated?
I have … a little.
There are two scenes - videos that bother me.
Saw them tonight on either Jane or NG.
The first one shows Caylee sitting very LOW down in a chair, in front of a table, obviously VERY frustrated. Keeps raising herself up, over and over again only to fall back down again. The second one, at the *SAME chair, at the same table*, where a very comfortable Caylee is reading that famous “book”. I can’t help but think of the first one, arranged by M to frustrate the little “snot head”? The second scene, maybe set up by Cindy,(a grandmother) making Caylee comfortable and happy? Probably sitting on cushions, or something to raise her up! I wonder if that is true, how many small hateful little things M (self described as a SPITEFUL BI**H), must have done to this baby that she hated - especially when alone with her. Did anyone else notice this and feel how I feel?
I think the book was in the bag cause that was the same night as the big fight.
not to say the woman in the vid was zanaida..i know that is not the case…but maggots got a crazy detailed mind..and think she would have done that to plant subliminal messages…the housekeeper image and the book…ZANNY MUST HAVE DONE IT…
ok mtc thought it was her yeah where would she obtain a Video camera the thief
oh she probably stole one if she had one lol
Sheller - LE really effed up the night of June 15 by not looking at the car, by letting C have all of M’s belongings that Leevil brought from Tony’s. They dropped the ball big time right then. That’s mostly what happened before the investigators got there. (I think).
And LE effed up on the calls from Kronk. Sounds like lazy low-level cops. Maybe the investigators are good but the lower echelon can ruin all that good work with their incompetence. The result of the trial might even be affected by those really huge mistakes.
THE REAL NANNY MAY HAVE BEEN THE ABANDONED HOUSE !
wake up le
LE has done a wonderfl job in the interviews and all the detecting work they have done…we are merely talkng about a couple of foot patrol officers dispatched to go look at Chicksaw trails..who chose not to get there gloves or feet dirty.
Search the house already I totally agree…do we know that they “havent” searched it? I said that earlier when we found out dum dick was searching black garbage bags at the house..that they went over that house with a fine tooth comb…
C~A you mean in the ant’s home? The woman is in the background? Caylee is sitting in that chair I spoke about in my previous post in the foreground? A black woman? Would she be so a maid or something? Gee, poor, poor ants.
See pickles, GOOD Career CHOICE! That book says medicine is THE field of the future! You can get a good home, support 4, have a maid, etc. How long will it take till you get your degree?
One of the audio interviews was the helper at the nursing home who remembered Caylee, described her as happy child. I think the ice cream cone in the face scene was one of the meanest kilr moments. Instigated by gma messing kilr face up first. Very disturbing to me.
Searchthehousealready..Thank you..we have been discussing that…its seems like a possibility dont it?
But Sheller here found some interesting tidbits regarding who she was really leaving Caylee with for a long time…
Jesse and his fam and some other chick…and other ppl like the grandparents..she really had it made even Kristina chester said she had sitters on tap
betty - The ants house did not look like that..that vid of baby had to be taken the visit to gr g pa on fathers day…it did not look like a home and the ants kitchen is small and dark…
I thought it was cake?
smith @ 7:46 - How about finding someone very needy who has refrained from committing a crime? Way more of them than there are “needy” people behind bars. Inmates get three meals a day, clothes, hot showers, heat, air conditioning, health and dental care.
MOST poor people don’t have any of that!!!!!!!
The vid of Caylee at that table was at the retirement home…where cindys dad was…that woman was a worker.
Yah there kitchen cuboards are dark green or black
mytwocents I agree. The woman officer levl said he knew in h.s.leaving the room, mistake. What do you think she grabbed out of the wallet? I think was the same one was in on some interviewing and her comments to responses were rather unprofessional. When I looked over some of the psychic tips though, some of the top detectives had to sign off on the transcriptions…time consuming drivvel. Melich, Edwards, Allen, Wells all seem outstandingly top notch, imo. Must be the weakest link theory at work.
Betty1 all of the training is free and I have to do cna first then rn then further if I choose..Im not sure…it dont start till the summer….Thank you!!!
CA - Sure the book could have been in the trunk or close to Caylee when she died. Somehow tainted so had to go! But doll and car seat were okay.
pickles…was it cake? I thought it was ice cream cone. my bad…I’ll have to go back and look now…another obsessive check..I just remembered it really bothered me. I noticed the grma cleaned off Caylee first, kilr had to wait her turn for the rag and she looked pisd.
In that vid Caylee is asking Papa if he’s tired…I think she’s talkng to c’s dad…you know killr’s grandpa..
It was at Caylee’s bday party….
Of course she looked mad c was caring more for Caylee then her…she’s way mondo jealous of Caylee..and hated to have to be around her..thats why she lied and said she was going to work for 2 yrs when she was really hanging with friends or at the bar or wherever pole was handy
betty1 - Please acknowledge the recent posts before everybody gets all screwed up about this! That video was shot at the assisted living center where Caylee’s great grandfather lives! It’s got nothing to do with their home. And M wasn’t there.
I thought the book was dumped in the woods because killr made mention of the book in the police reports.
Thats what im saying that vid was at the old great grandpas retirement assisted living home..and the woman in the back ground was a care provider…and Caylee was talkng and reading to Great Grandpa and c who was holding the camera
pickles (where ever there was a pole handy LOL
pickles Had a friend that was a beautician for 20 yrs. went back to school with her daughter, now they are both nurses. You’ll be a great nurse with your insight.
I hope so…
pickles You are so right! In the supposed phone call she received the morning of the 911 calls, she said Caylee was talking about reading the book and her shoes. I had forgotten all about that. YOU ARE GOOD.
C~A - did you see my kids ages…that’s the years they were born not their ages. Didn’t want you to think I was 100 or anything.
pickles before i say g’nite remember Casey dancing with a pole at fusion club ? look like she was swinging both ways ???know what i mean is she a Bi sexual ya think ??
Sheller said,in January 14th, 2009 at 9:10 pm mytwocents I agree. “What do you think she grabbed out of the wallet?”
When G was deposed at the bond hearing BB asked him if M had ever been out of the country, G said no, BB came w/ ‘even though she has a passport’
I had wondered what was grabbed out of the wallet as well then figured it was a passport after hearing that she had one, if what BB said it true. It made sense to me atleast.
Nana….there are over one thousand XXX pics of KC on her pc so I dont put nothing past her.
Gnite Nana!!
Sheller one of your kids is my age…1978 yah buddy..woop I love bein out of my 20’s!!!
Casey is autosexual, gets off on herself. Other people are a means to an end.
jns farm….I missed that, dang.I didn’t ever listen to that hearing. Could have been then. Makes sense to me too.
I always wondered if it was a z.gonzales ID and she was planning to become that person when she split from Florida. Her dad said she already had nanny as a previous job on her resume. She could have given herself a recommendation.
You are kidding, Pickles. By your voice, I figured you for barely past teenage. Really?
I’d like to go back to me 20’s Pickles- I would change some things & I’d already be out on parole
Oh, heck…I read your answer all wrong. One of my kids IS your age. Must be tired. You are a baby.
SearchHouse… I am sure the authorities searched that house a long time ago. Its in the neighborhood, why wouldn’t they?
I think the police dept and the prosecutors office have much more evidence than any of us could imagine. Just because they don’t blab it every day means nothing. I admire them for sticking to the case, hopefully putting together a slam dunk case and not being sucked into the media frenzy.
They are leaving that up to Baez & Co. and the Anthony’s criminal lawyers.
Now, what’s this about a NEW pathologist from Canada that is joining the Baez circus? I’ve lost count of all these “experts”!
Disturbing question… I wonder how many times a day Casey thinks of that little girl? And, if she DOES, what kind of thoughts would they be?
I meant that baby in a good way. If I were that age and know what I know now, couldn’t pull nothin over on me. 30’s are good.
Sheller yappers I am a ripe old 30 this year…back in NOvember..yappers..but im a tiny little thing of a full grown adult..Ive been this size since JR.High…I look like a tween..but alas I am not..
well C had already grabbed all the cash, u know the 1st thing u think when ur gchild is missing, so i thought maybe other id’s til i heard bb say that about a pp
Bet you still get carded though.
JRS PAROLE whatchoo talkng bout?
Yes I do….The only time I dont get carded is when I have my kids with me..screaming and flayling about..no one cards me when they are in tow…ahahaha…
JRS…shut up…out on parole…are you messing with me?
Jrsfarm; passport makes a lot of sense. Good one.
Good luck with that parole hearing :).
lol, is my mil joke, if i knew then what i know now i’d have handled her different & be out on parole
Elaine..yah I thought the same about the house…
And Sheller posted a great bit of info earlier about who killr was leaving Caylee with for quite sometime…The Grunds and various other friends…c and g..
I remember reading kristina chester said killr had sitters on tap…lots of friends willing to watch Caylee…even kristina watched her for killr
JRS..ahahaha…silly…your funny…your mil…
SO shes a mil not a milf…ahahaha
Good luck with that parole hearing..
Uhhh….shoot dang gumb ladies..jooh are on a role tonite…silly dahlings.
Killr was going to kill them all..yah..the chlorie searches…the neck breaking..she was going to off them all…yahh…
lulu thats funny i hear ya ,,
Cus…now that Sheller brought up all the ppl who actually did watch Caylee over the 2 yrs it makes sense..that the chlorie searches and stuff was for something else..not to drug bebe…but to kill c and g…
But c choked her out and she killed Caylee instead?
Did I read right g choked killr while she was on house arrest
They watch to much Simpsons.
LULU an autosexual…
yappers gets off on herself more than others…in an instant…go buddy…blehh I have to go wash out my mouth now.
Do I really sound like a young person..on the air..great now im gonna be all monotone next radio show…
Well, I’ve got to go…need to call in about this here monitoring device..that was a good one jrsfarm. Nite all..admit I don’t know what a mil or milf is…techno typo dummy. Tell me tomorrow. Hope it’s not a bad thing.
***kicking pebbles and trying to catch up~Pickles gets a pebble upside da head***
I was tappin on your tank along time ago…
Geez talk about slo!!!
Sheller…gnite
mil= mother in law
milf= mom id like to flock
Im wearing my safety helmet now…ahahaha
Pickles said,in January 14th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
“Did I read right g choked killr while she was on house arrest They watch to much Simpsons”
lol simpsons! padilla or tim said g was choking m or trying to choke her??
i have to go let the dog out for a bit
Hey I got to go for a bit…kids bedtime..bbiab..
*throws rocks* at Fish…ahahahaha….you have to catch up now…ahahahahaha…tap tap tap…
Yah Ill be back to..
UGH I’m a bad blogger…
The real original nanny was XANAX…Zanny’s…
The woods…the names…just good ‘clicks’ for a psycho…ugggghh
Sheller, yes Nanny’s are often trained, and often live in the home. Many come from other countries. Some are educated. I knew some of them in PA. Friends had them.
Good we keep picking up on these Sociopath traits. Delusions of grandeur is one. “Oh yes … my deeeeaaa. I am BETTER than the rest!” SHE WISHES! Can you imagine this thing taking pictures of people getting off RIDES at wherever it was …amusement park. THAT was her career? And IT has a NANNY? RIGHT! So sick … totally OUT of IT! It is so disgusting.
FL has strange laws when it comes to immunity. What can we GET out of any of the Anthony’s? ONLY lies, lies, lies.
good eveing everyone, I am here… saw NG and wow more news about leevil? whats up with that?>
C~ oh I see. I wasn’t sure if they had one of these open type kitchens. So that chair where she is reading her book is at the Home with the Great grandfather? OH my head does S P I N.
I acknowledge! No need to plead the 5th!
Yes it was the Home.
We don’t need MORE confusion here, sorry about that. More than we can handle on our plates!
Yes, I recall some videos of the house, the small kitchen has dark cabinets I think.
GREAT going Pickles. Free education!! GO all the way, RN here we come!
I think you can tell I am not feeling great, tonight.
‘nite buds. Take it easy. Will watch re-run of NG and read… early nite.
No nanny here in MW USA. BUT…you’re ABSOLUTELY right.
It was cake, good observation pickles, cake is a little better.
But heck, I looked for my reading glasses for 20 minutes yesterday before I realized they were on my face. Not as bad as freezing her face with ice cream like I thought. Kilr still looked ticked, like she messed up Caylee and tried to hand off to gma. jmo
Lilred
regarding your 8:08 post asking me to explain why I think it may be important.
I think so because “someone” had to have sent the PIs there, and if they can trace it back to any of the Ants it will help the prosecution because it will force the Ants to take the stand against her if if they want to avoid prosecution themselves, as how could they have known specifically where to look (IE-by the pavers) without info from M. If word came directly from M through her lawyer, it still works to help convict.
Even the fact that they are digging around can provide some reasonable doubt about the sanctity of the body because if they poked around there, how do we know they didn’t also poke around the spot where the body lay.
pickles-
I have to second that you sound really young on the radio. I was so surprised the first time I heard your voice. Somehow, from reading your posts, I had the impression you were older, and maybe a bit rougher around the edges than you sound in person. Your radio voice convinced me you were a lot younger, and now that i read your birthdate, you turn out to be somewhere in between.
I think maybe your “Eunice thing” was what swayed me originally into thinking you might be a little rough around the edges, or it could be the way you play with the written word.
funny though, how words can paint a mental picture.
XOXOXOXO…I havent heard nothing regarding eddie munstr’s new charges
Or was it criminal immunity…hmmm whatsa criminal to do?
Hey I gotta go now..
G’nite you guys…
I aint rough around the edges at all…im actually really nice and gentle… Eunice is just to funny..
Fish made it up!!!
Timbit..its how I write..I likes to be silly…
G’nite y’all….see you manyana
Thanks for the “sitters” time line Sheller..it makes sense to me.
JRSFARM morning… re post 9:38 pm 14th…
OR ANYONE THAT Could answer this….
THIS could be the dumbest question yet..but you said something about
‘being out on parole by then’ - what do you mean by that??? Gotta quit
doing drugs..haha..meds.
lilred morning i think they were talking about later in life a what if~
Morning Peeps!!!
As i read and reread some of the comments about the ‘where’ m was putting Caylee when she wasn’t at home with c & G.
My theory is that she drugged Caylee and either 1. she put her in the\
trunk.. more than once. Or 2. She drugged Caylee, took her with her
with her to parties.. while Caylee ’slept’ right thru everything.
Didn’t someone mention that when m brought Caylee with her places
that Caylee was already ‘crashed” (drugged) and she slept thru all
the partying?? I thought I read that somewhere..
Anna…OHH.. okay, that makes sense.. thanks!
GEEZ.. maybe I shouldn’t post until I have had my coffee!! I think I am
only getting half of what I should be getting!!! LMSAO..(laughing my sleepy ass off) hmmm…..
Hey I have a question..
In order for someone to be eligible for parole, doesn’t that person have to admit guilt and show remorse??
sheller 1/14 @7:36 thanks for posting that at least caylee had real babysitters sometime-who did c take shopping??was it dakota??? 500 is a lot of money to spend on someone who is not a family member- as for thoes people who donate money to m…they shouldd donate to something not evil..like tim miller i think he would appreciate 20.00 and be greatfull more than m was gonna say 1 more thing …have to go back and read…c~a you up yet??? bus start??? its -23 here need cig but dont want to go outside!
oh yea the book found in the woods..m claimed she got that phone call day b4 from caylee and she was talking about her book..and shoes, wonder if its been proven to be hers yet???
in some cases alot of the time the person has just done thier time..also i think it has to do with thier charge and thier behavior….diffrent states have diffrent parole rules…
i also think caylee spent more than once in the trunk…as hard as that is to think about…sometimes my posts dont make sence to me after i post them…my thoughts dont match the words i put down its hard to express my feelings in writing..know what i mean???
Morning Anna - Lil
anna - sorry been tied up for a bit…yup bus started, i have a good one..had her plugged in and it’s somewhere around minus 30 this beautiful Canadian day!
Yes, they would have to admit guilt, be on very good behaviour, show remorse and state exactly why they think they would be a productive member of society and deserve parole in the first place. IMO and to my knowledge.
lil - I heard that she did drag her to at least one party and prob. more then that…and that she slept on the couch through the whole thing…drugged for sure…you can’t take a 2 year old to a place with lot’s of peeps and noise and music and laughing, and have her say ok to missing out on all the fun…plus it’s not her place and most babies REFUSE to sleep anywhere but their own beds.
yep kids are gonna stay up if they can especially if lots of people are around…mine had to literly pass out at family gatherings, not the same as party but people were up late playing games and stuff
See I guess I figured on baby being gone most of the time as opposed to being at home with grich …so I think there were prob. only pockets of time in which she drugged her when she didn’t have a sitter and needed a fix. She would drag her alone and drug her so she wouldn’t iterfere. When she would actually HAVE to put her in the trunk to be babysat would possibly be on her excursions to FUSIONS…when sin wouldnt babysit.
It’s too bad that we didn’t have an ounce of truth come out of grandas mouth or we wold have a better idea of how many times maggott told her that she was going out for the night and baby was going to Zannys….
Remember when she said to sindee i think one time that the baby was spending the weekend at the nannys and they were going to the beach etc..where was caylee for that WHOLE WEEKEND?
so many puzzling things..wasnt that after she was missing and c didnt know??? when caylee was spending all the time with nanny was after she was gone
the month m was gone was when she was saying caylee was spending all the time with nanny..b4 c made m come home and she never spent weekends with her..right??
coincedentaly e1 involved with this case is missing thier phone or phone records….WOW! could it be cuz they are lying!!!!! immagine that!
That is what I was trying to iron out last night…when did the whole nanny story get made up? Your right, i think it was when baby was missing that she told sidee about the weekend with the nanny…but sindee says she has been talkin about zanny for for about 2 years…that HAS to be a lie…it was prob. only just made up around the time she started to change, with the new friends etc…in the spring when she started really planning what she was going to do to caylee. I bet that sin and grinch never heard of her which is why sin looked up the name on google…oh guess she had a reason to finally talk to the nanny in her mind…the idiot…so she is either lying to protect maggot with knowing about the nanny OR she is an even bigger a@@ thinkin this nanny existed for that long and never once pick up on the fact that she never existed! Any one with half a brain would figure that out pretty quick..anyone that cared actually
cant that pysic get in trouble for lying to police??? how stupid these people are imo!
Good Morning, All!
Yes, anna, I think you are right. Most of the times we are wondering where Caylee was - and the times that M told C and her friends she was with Zanny - were after June 15 when Caylee was already dead.
I think before that M dragged her around, dumped her with friends to babysit and left her with her parents most of the time.
I think once M got into the latest crowd of friends is when Caylee became more of a problem. First because she may have blamed Caylee for guys not wanting a more serious live-in relationship with her. And then blamed Caylee because Tony L “seemed” to be okay with the live-in relationship but it did not include Caylee (who he thought had grandparents and a nanny to take care of her).
phone records…saying “IT DOESN’T SHOW UP ON MY RECORDS BUT I MADE or recieved THE CALL” is like lookin a child, hands and face full of chocolate and asking them if they ate it and they shake their head “NO”….
HOw bout sidees visa records did LE ever get them? To see the purchases that possibly m had made close to time of caylee death?
CA - It’s possible that M made up the whole zanny nanny thing back when she lost her job at Universal but kept pretending she had a job.
She’d “go to work” and would have to tell her folks who was taking care of Caylee while she worked. At least those times that G couldn’t take care of her (cause he was out of work a lot in those days I think).
MTC - so sindee is lying as usual about hearing for over a year and then some about zanny….surprise..
i think maybee m drugged baby in the past a few x zannax(zanni) thought she was cute making the fake nanny and name she told c&g it wasnt exacally a lie..that why they heard the name for a few yrs…i dont understand why c didnt demand a emergency # tho unless m gave her the run around about that to…aalso in jail tapes c is asking m is this a pic of zannis house??? we know whos house it is allready..did zanni play the drums??? this pic shows drums and we know whos house this is…supposidly zanni did have drums but wrong house it was tonys
morning MTC
who did c take shopping and spend 500 on??? was it dakota??? i never heard that b4
Good Morning all.
Wow, am I glad we don’t live in Cedar Rapids,Ia. anymore. Dangerous Wind Chill -50. It’s 31 degrees right now where we’re at. CA,Anna, you ladies warm right now?
morning mtc&paw yep im warm as long as im inside…need smokes tho..c~a want to pick thoes up for me cince your going out anyway??? kids dont have school today to cold so i dont have to go out except for stupid cig
Right after we left Cedar Rapids,Ia in April last year, it flooded, past the 500 year chart thingy too. The house we were living in was under water. I have a feeling it’s going to happen again.
I have always felt Zanny the Nanny meant XanaX from day one of hearing about it.
Jill from Australia….really Australia? You’re welcome.
CA - Yes I would not believe Sindee about hearing or not hearing about Zanny all this time without corroboration from friends of M’s.
But I do think anna’s probably right about M talking about “Zanny” really meaning xanax for a while. Like the reason Caylee was totally zonked at parties. M probably thought it was funny.
funny thing all this time the ants and e1 involved were claming caylee was alive…so this pi just searched a area for kicks…also if this pycic was directing the ants pi why would the ants go along with that if they wouldnt believe evedince from le???? they contradict themselfs with there actions!
Down to 6 degrees here this morning. Midwest U.S. Land of Dorothy and toto.
suppose a live caylee was living on her own in the abandon house??? yea thats it 2 yrs old living on her own in abandon house hmm…
Anna did you hear that Lee DOES want immunity???
i bet lv does… gee and i thought he was so honest…NOT!!!!
You know the only person I’ve heard of who recognized that M had serious problems - particularly with telling the truth - was her friend from childhood, Kiomarie Cruz. I remember in her statement she told of a fairly recent time (within the year before Caylee died) that she ran into M who told her she was working someplace or other. As it happened that’s where Kio was working. And bless her heart she told M she should get help. See a counselor or someone. I believe I’m remembering that correctly. In all of this I feel sorriest for Kiomarie. She was totally dissed by M as a child - wasn’t she the one M told couldn’t come in her house because C hates hispanics? Yet she offered to adopt Caylee because she can’t have children. And M told her that Caylee’s middle name was for HER middle name (Marie -but what a lie! It’s M’s middle name too). And then she catches M in lies and suggests she get help. AND she tells the cops the best place to look for Caylee and they eff it up. I can’t imagine how Kiomarie feels. She sounds like a good person.
PAW - I read a quote on wdbo I think from an LE official saying there was no investigation into Leevil etc. No reason to expect charges to be brought against him. If that’s true why would Luka announce that it was a possibility?
I don’t know what or who to believe anymore.
LE had better be looking at Leevil really hard and considering charges. Although even then he’ll be just like his mother. Couldn’t tell the truth if his life depended on it.
Tony and roommates did have a rule about her not being at the apartment when they weren’t there. PAW69, where did you hear the Levil wanting immunity deal?
M2C, you know what goes through my mind alot, That phone call between Casey and I think the other girl’s name was Christi. She said that if anything happened(s) to Caylee she’ll die. She was devastated as well. Casey is so cold hearted, hell, she doesn’t even have a heart. Casey has put EVERYONE through the meat grinder
so if in fact m was innocent and there was a nanny and a kidnapping, why would anyone need immunity??? for what shouldnt the nannys family be asking for that??? arent the ants suppose to be innocent victoms??? never heard of a innocent person not involved be asking for immunity..i could be wrong but i dont believe thats the way it works is it???
Sheller - I remember that now. And M was not allowed to stay at Tony’s while he went home to NY June 30 for a week. What kind of bf or live-in relationship is that? Left M “homeless!” Had to go beg Amy for a place to stay. Unbelievable!! And she’s cooking for Tony L and cleaning and doing laundry. And probably killed Caylee so she could be with him more! She’s NUTS!
and during that call to christy m states “all they care about is caylee” HELLO shes the one missing!
It was on NG last night that Lee wants immunity. Let me see if I can find anything else on it. Because it is confusing that LE says he’s not looking at charges yet he’s wanting immunity. If he’s still living with mom and dad, why would he go tell all to LE….
Paw69, I agree about that call. With kilr saying, omg, calling you guys, a waste. Like she couldn’t believe they were even this upset. Getting arrested on a whim, I think she said. VERY telling as to her maternal concern. Pretty sickening from the narccisitic, self absorbed, egocentric witch. Calling boyf was of the utmost importance at that moment.
Makes a real mom want to scream and maybe grab her neck. sorry, couldn’t help it.
Yeah Anna, That pissed me off too. Of course that’s all they care about.
The way she was ordering everyone around..from a jail really bothered me. NO GET ME TONY’S NUMBER, I’m not talking to anyone else. Then sicky sweet…you know I love you, I’ll have to call you later. GET ME TONY’S Number. And they just let her….except levl I guess.
C~A I never saw the credit card records. Gma said she brought in receipts or something and they told her they needed the statements. ??? Weren’t in any disc. documents I read, but they said they were keeping somethings “close” when they could.
Okay, Found it. This is from http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/14/ng.01.html
Straight out to Natisha Lance, our producer, on the story from the very beginning. Natisha, what can you tell me about possible immunity, criminal immunity, for tot mom brother Lee Anthony?
NATISHA LANCE, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, that is the big question tonight, Nancy, is will Lee Anthony get immunity? Apparently, his attorney, Thomas Luca, is worried that Lee could possibly face obstruction charges or aiding and abetting charges. Now, what he`s trying to do is seek a subpoena for Lee Anthony. If he`s given the subpoena, he would then get immunity. Now, the caveat is…
GRACE: Whoa, whoa, whoa! Wait, wait! If he`s given a subpoena, he automatically gets immunity?
LANCE: That`s right. Under Florida law, he would be given immunity. Now the caveat to that is, Nancy, if he`s given this immunity, he has to take stand in the murder trial. He cannot plead the 5th. He has to get up there, tell his story, tell exactly what he knows. If Casey did give him inside information, he has to spill it all on the stand during that murder trial.
GRACE: OK, let`s unleash the lawyers. We are taking your calls live. Joining me tonight out of the Atlanta jurisdiction, veteran criminal defense attorney, Renee Rockwell. Also joining me out of New York, Hugo Rodriguez, defense attorney, former fed with the FBI.
C & G tend to play follow the leader with Lee. So I have to wonder, IF this takes place with Lee, Will C & G follow???
This sounds like a publicity stunt. Couldn’t the date of the camera be changed? (Mine always has the wrong date because I forget to change it.) The date and time are so very obvious on the screen - why? So not only does the “private” investigator get media coverage - but also the psychic. Wow she knew exactly where the body was but she doesn’t know how she died or anything else about her death? I smell a decomposed rat!!
With everyone else being investigated now, I have a feeling Lee is going to take that immunity. After what DC pulled, Lee is probably going to save his own butt now.
That Psychic is so full of it. She’s already been discredited by someone who paid her $5,000 and they didn’t get anything right from her.
And of course, Cellphone companies aren’t doing the phone bills right. LMAO WHATEVER. Ya know, I have T-Mobile, and I hate it. BUT!, My bill has always been right with every single call.
Here’s how I see it with Lee, He wants Casey to pay for what she did, but at the same time he doesn’t want “the family secret” to come out, (Lee being the father). He doesn’t want that to ruin what’s left of his parent’s reputation. He’s in a damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t situation. (IF he is Caylee’s father), He’s going to have to realize what’s more important, (His daughter’s death) and Casey pay for what she has done, Or His family’s reputation. Now all of this is just my personal opinion none the less. But it’s the closest thing that make sense to me right now. I could be off, or I could be right. Either way, it doesn’t look good for the family.
I thought I would fall over laughing when I heard that “psychic” say that she was a professional “douser.” Someone needs to find a barrel of water and douse her!!!
WHat a liar and fraud and I hope she gets into BIG trouble!
Has anyone heard if Leevil lost his job or quit long ago to go “investigate?” I’m asking because I don’t understand why he’s moved in with his parents. Unless he was living with Mallory and the apartment is in her name and she kicked him out.
He has to know what this looks like. Baby boy going home and/or “circling the wagons.”
I hope I don’t offend anyone here when I sat this…..She’s a Blonde, There’s the first clue lmao. Sorry, The blonde jokes came out really bad that night. lol
I’m not sure why he moved back home. I thought it was to some how comfort/protect C & G. Who knows though.
PAW - It’s okay. She’s a bottle blonde. There is nothing real about that woman. If she’s such a professional at “finding” things why can’t she find her brain or some common decency?
so lee wants immunity, but I heard it’s not blanket immunity it’s something else…where he gets off on any involvment in exchange for his testimony to sink his sister. Anything he says can’t be used against him but if they come up with evidence of a crime he hasn’t spoke about, he can still be charged!
I noticed the “psychic” stumbled a lot when answering questions. Kind of immature answers too. “My dad get’s the bill” “My dad says it wasn’t on there”. Just the way she said it, made her sound like a child.
CA, yes , exactly.
GRACE: OK, let`s unleash the lawyers. We are taking your calls live. Joining me tonight out of the Atlanta jurisdiction, veteran criminal defense attorney, Renee Rockwell. Also joining me out of New York, Hugo Rodriguez, defense attorney, former fed with the FBI.
Renee, try, put it in a nutshell. How do you get immunity by just getting a subpoena? That doesn`t sound right to me.
RENEE ROCKWELL, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, if he`s potentially a target for any type of charges, if they want his testimony, they`re going to have to give him something in exchange, which equals immunity.
GRACE: I know that. But again, that wasn`t my question. Hugo Rodriguez…
HUGO RODRIGUEZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Sure.
GRACE: … there`s more to getting immunity than a subpoena showing up in your mailbox via registered mail. You got to work out immunity deal.
RODRIGUEZ: No, not in the state of Florida, Nancy.
GRACE: Good. Explain.
RODRIGUEZ: The law in the state of Florida is if a state attorney subpoenas any witness, that witness has immunity.
GRACE: Oh, you`re talking about use immunity, not blanket immunity.
RODRIGUEZ: Yes. Exactly. Exactly.
GRACE: OK. I understand.
RODRIGUEZ: So obviously, they want to talk to him. He doesn`t have a privilege. He doesn`t have a legal privilege…
GRACE: Right.
RODRIGUEZ: … of any conversations he`s had with his sister or anyone else.
GRACE: And very quickly, explain the difference between use immunity and blanket immunity.
RODRIGUEZ: Anything he says to them, they cannot use against him in a criminal prosecution. If they could otherwise prove any other crime without use of his own words, they could still prosecute him.
GRACE: Now, let`s think about it. Why would tot mom brother Lee Anthony need criminal immunity? Let`s go to Leonard Padilla, bounty hunter who first bailed the tot mom out of jail and then planned and executed an exhaustive search for little Caylee`s remains. Why would Lee Anthony need criminal immunity, Padilla?
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: Somebody had to get the information where the body was back on August the 11th, also to the private detectives. He might be part of that daisy chain I`ve been talking about.
GRACE: Oh, you and the daisy chain again!
PADILLA: Me and the daisy chain.
Hi ALL…again!!
Boy, I leave to stuff my face full of food and everyone wakes up.LOL
Other than stating the obvious (IMO) I think when she couldn’t find a “real” babysitter, she took Caylee along.. with her tummy/head full
of “xannies”.. I think she did put her in the trunk-to sleep- more
times than not. I believe the real problem then with Caylee is she was
getting older - prob harder for m to silence her, Caylee was talking etc,,
the wonder-snatch was getting tired of playing mommy. Not fun anymore.. so POOF baby gone…POOF I can party all I want now.. even a plus, now I can take the pills I used to have to zonk Caylee out..
MORE FOR ME….
Hate that biotch…
I guess I should have posted that part too. But yes CA, you are right about the immunity and charges ect.
morning everyone…
hmm… many questions…. i missed the whole psychic thing , just reading you guys posts..
then you know what? when i get so confused about this case, I still say theres enough ammo to put M away even without all the mess. does anyone agree???
I mean the psychic, p.i.’s , leevil, ants, deputy, kronk, without all of this distraction, the fact remains they have enuf to convict her… they know she did this…
i wonder now what the polls would show before it was like 80% guilty….
so i guess what I mean is when all is said and done will a jory convict? i say yes.. and i think it will be overwhelming ( I am praying anyways)
So if the state subpoena’s Leevil and he testifies the state cannot use anything he says against HIM? Is that the law in Florida? Or is that the special immunity he wants?
I’m still confused. NG should not rush people who are “educating” the rest of us on the law!
I have to wonder, and I’ve thought about this for a long time, I don’t know if it would matter or not,,,, But I wonder if the b/fs who didn’t want Caylee to be brought over, if they feel guilty now as well. On the terms of , if they would have let Casey bring Caylee, maybe she’d still be alive, kind of thing. I know Casey probably would have still done it. But I have to wonder the same thing, ya know.
kowing what we know now about M… and having a child same exact age, I can see that wehn caylee started talking this drove M insane…being the way she was (m)… i would imagine caylee was most talkative, ( mine talks from 7am -10pm)…lol so , if M were trying to get out and party, i think your right, this was annoying her… she had to silence her one way or the other…
so sad
when i see caylee shown on tv it hurts my heart so much to realize shes actually gone.. its hard to believe something that beautiful is gone… and we’ve all watched it play out right before our eyes. and we see the reason she isn’t here any longer, thats why this case has touched us… most of us pray nothing happens to our kids.. you worry about everything… murder is something , or the last thing you would think happening..
XO, They have enough to convict her, even before the remains were found. The rest of this stuff is just that, Distraction.
M2C, Okay, if he tells LE ALL and get’s on the stand and tells ALL, he will get immunity, meaning he will not be charged for anything. Unless they find something he didn’t mention, then he can be criminally charged for that. Otherwise, anything he says, will not be used against him. So basically, I scratch your back, you scratch mine.
paw- agree
thats why this other distraction stuff is just that.. I mean time will tell if anyone else goes down the river you know.. ants lee , casey etc…
my hope is that all of this isn’t enough to botch the case.. but I don’t think so, I still feel confident a conviction will be with an overwhelming vote..
i picture the jurors coming out and talking later about it, and them saying it was UNANIMOUS.. ( spell check)…lol
thats my picture in my head, i picture M sobbing and ants too blah blah, and I picture us all celebrating the day that victory and justice happened.
What’s Baez going to do? Botch himself? LMAO It was HIS original PI. LMAO
XOXOXO.. 8:21 post
Yes, I still believe that there is alot of stuff to put her away.. for good, I hope.
yes I think its all coming back to bite him… regardless of how it all looks now, ( bad) with the mess going on, I still say conviction, overwhelming…
the fact remains she cannot explain away the mountains of evidence.. and neither can baez… he cannot explain any of it.. from her ridiculous interrogation, the lies, the reeking car, no zanny, i mean he better not come out going for the crap with the body etc… cause he better be finding a way to explain all the other stuff…
Good Morning all… I don’t know why someone would willingly step into this case with how bad it smells… The other night they had the psychics pic up on NG, you’d think she’d sense that people would hate her for lying like that…
or he is going to come out saying someone else killed poor little caylee… ridiculous!!!!
this trial is going to be one of the most interesting I have followed since O.J.
and that one was a joke..
this one is second…
they can try all they want to use this mess right now about the remains etc… but the fact remains they have forensics, they have her own statements, they have the fact she was the last one to see caylee, and she didnt report her missing, its almost open and shut… in a way except every weirdo came out of the woodwork to either make money, or try to cause distraction, and then you get the other people, the media, with so much speculation, we’ll see at trial..
I don’t think any of this is helping Baez’s dream team at all. If anything, it’s hurting the dream team really bad. It shows they will go to any lengths to try and get Casey off. He has already pissed in the cheerios of all the judges involved in every case on Casey.
2 things I’m waiting for to consider it an open-shut case. 1) Toxicology 2) Finger print(s) on the duct tape/bags.
yes exactly,.. so when i get a tiny bit worried , i come back to reality and say no shes going down, no doubt, this other stuff or other people will be charged if they should be, ants too, and then in say a year or two M will be rotting away in jail for eternity and some justice will have won…
I hate her..
i hate the fact she took this child out for no good reason, none. its like a bad dream ..
i also am starting to hate these other people involved who are either lying, or wanna mke money off a dead child…
yes am wondering when the heck the tox report will come out…
Anyone ever wonder, If the economy wasn’t so bad, would all these people still be involved. It’s such a sick minded thought that due to our economy, people need to make money some how and they are using Caylee to pay their bills. UGHHH!!!
yah I dont like any of them, any of the people involved in this case… none… nor do i trust any of them.. anyone on the side of M do i trust…
maybe the father george, maybe this poor man went along with what he had to, for fear of being killed by C lol i dont know he did do the right thing…
XO, omg, ya know, I never thought about that. He is afraid of C. He is stuck. Maybe he is in true fear. Only God knows the answer to that though. I bet when he’s alone he prays for God’s help.
In that interview he did say that he wanted it all to stay between them. He didn’t want C or anyone else to know what he told them. Maybe there was a good reason for that. I bet when that interview was shown on TV, she threatened him. I can see her being deceitful,hateful,and threatening.
XOXOXO,,, 8:26 post…
You said it perfectly, as mothers we never stop worrying.. it is our job.
But WOW.. sin and m really blew their jobs. Look how m turned out..
and look at what happened to Caylee. Some people should never be
allowed to have children. I hope to God that m doesn’t have any more
children, she doesn’t deserve them. There should be mandatory sterilization for child killers.. without sedation.
The 5th amendment should be taken out. They should also have a device that you have to be hooked up to while on the stand that will record if you are lying or not, one that everyone in the courtroom can see. Because if you really think about it, All your doing when you plea the 5th is basically saying ” your guilty”, but you don’t want to tell what you did.
I get on my elliptical every nite at 8p and watch NG. My 11 yo twins came down and were talking to me and said that Caylee looks like such a happy baby, every picture she has a big smile… They love babies and toddlers, always the ‘big sisters’… They know bits and pieces of the story and don’t understand how a Mommy could do that, it’s not what Mommies are made to do…
PAW & XOXOXO..
Look what m did to her own child. I don’t think she would hesitate one
bit getting rid of mommy & daddy. She has no conscience…she threw her baby away in a garbage bag in the swamp.. if anyone could do that, they are capable of anything..
When she talked to her friend(don’t know who), she told them that she was getting c & g’s house.. George could be scared for his life. I know
I would be.
I wonder (God forbid) that she walks on this, do you think she would
move back into her old room?? C & G better sleep with one eye open..
I watched a video that I thought was a sort of bombshell to me. Recommend watching but in a nutshell…
Wftv FBI interview Cindy no. 3 of 11 Aug 7
1. Cindy suggests that Casey’s confusing story about Zenaida is really code talk for Amy Huizenga (same height, same employer, same car story) and that the fake Jeff who introduced her is really R. Morales. (Hence the later public statement, we know who you are and you are being watched”)
AhHa. NOW I get it. Zenaida is Amy.
2. Cindy reports that before the final call to 911, Lee said why would you want us to wait until tomorrow morning to take us to Cayle, why get police involved…why not just take us to her now? Casey responds “I don’t want to disrupt her life…because from here on out, Caylee’s life will never be the same.” (last 30 seconds of the interview.)
3. Despite C bringing 100 page notebook of what she feels are red flags, FBI agent writes 2 things down. The concept of what a red flag is, is completely haywire. Cindy states she never asked Casey what she meant by that statement. (no red flag) Casey is practically spelling it out for her mom to get prepared for the reality. Could she just have said :Is Caylee dead? and gotten what she needed.
Bmore, My kids go through the same thing. They still ask “WHY”???? “HOW”???? Daughter is 10, Son is 12. They share something special with Caylee though, Daughter shares middle name and Son shares birthday with Caylee. Kids understand more than they get credit for. I still and listen to them all the time. Even about this case. It’s amazing how much they really do understand.
good morning every one :
-21 here cold brrr , lol ,nice refreshing air’ “this is what i found”..
America’s Nannies professionally screened & referenced Nannies .
“I’m not going to post all , I have 2 pages in front of me” …
A Nanny is a person whose primary & sometimes ONLY function is limited to caring for the children.
what is a Nanny? A nanny is not a maid, a Nanny is not a general house keeper, “it goes on … & here is a good point tv stories of people whose children have been abused by caregivers often mistakenly identified as Nannies read it its interesting sound like aNanny would be close to you living in your home you would need to afford someone like her
(she had a Nanny & baby sitter which in my book there wasn’t any … Bull!, she is degrading the Name (Nanny) especially Cindy ,
Night, Cindy’s theory about Amy being “Zenaida” is so off the wall, it’s unreal. If Amy was “Zenaida”, you really think she would go anywhere with Cindy? You really think she would take her to where Casey was? She would have stayed in Puerto Rico. LOL. Cindy is just like Casey. Willing to point the finger at anyone and everyone , EXCEPT the 1 person who is really guilty,,,, CASEY herself.
NIGHTINGALE.. POST 9:02 AM..
You know I have wondered about that too. Maybe someone/anyone would have come right out and asked m, she may - MAY - have
told the truth.. for once in her life.
But I wouldn’t bet on it!!! LOL
BBL ladies and gent(?)..
Cindy failed to ask Casey the 1 major question. DID YOU KILL CAYLEE??? Hell Casey basically spelled it out for Cindy, And Cindy still didn’t get it, and still doesn’t get it.
no i don’t think she would have confessed but I would guess Casey at least would have been put on the spot. Every turn neither parent can put Casey on the spot, direct quesitons. the least you will get as a parent is body language which is sometimes enough.
paw about tony feeling guilty i bet he does, but he probably didnt expect her to kill caylee, just didnt want the responsobility of a kid around…having to watch make sure they dont hurt themselfs..i think its better to say that then have her bring her over if no one watches her…well either way caylee didnt wim
good morning Paw: are you kidding Cindy would’nt dare ask Casey that question even if casey admitted Cindy would say Oh you are covering for someone
I think i mentioned this before about a killer who was caught , ,convicted D.N.A proved it, HIS mother till her dieing day swore “HE didn’t do it” isn’t that something ???
with tat sentance m said and all the evedince how can c still defend her??? shes made other statments regarding caylee to and they still defend.
i would bet if m admitted to it c would still claim someone was forcing her to say that and m felt threatened so she admited to it…they will never believe the truth, and if for some god awful reason m gets off i will always believe shes guilty!
There are times I go back and forth with Cindy and her actions. C & G have been drug through the mud in all directions. I feel for them on a natural level. At the same time, I’m so angry with what they have said and done. I’m only human and so are they. My heart is torn in 2 with them. It’s hard to explain I guess. No matter how I look at the big picture, The fact still remains that Casey is and was an adult when she killed Caylee. She can’t use the fact of how she was raised for her actions. She knew right from wrong. There are plenty of people that weren’t brought up with the best of parents who are very good people as adults. The way Cindy was raised, could be the same way she raised her kids. Maybe Cindy’s mother did the same thing with Cindy. The “Evil” cycle that just keeps going. Casey just broke the cycle by killing Caylee. Is the behavior we see in Cindy “normal” for Cindy and her family? Is it “normal” to clean up family messes? Sometimes when people are raised a certain way, that’s all they know. Most people break the cycle when they are adults. But some people don’t.
Sorry for babbling. I try to understand more than my brain allows me to.
not suggesting all Nannies are perfect
I’m sure some were fired by their employer
but in this case , a nanny did not exist
yes Paw you have something there . i agree with you 100%
as a parent , we know when our kids a lieing I do any way, even tho they will not (didn’t) admit it I’m refering when they were teens ,,,
the facts the evidents the time line 31 days not reporting her missing, come-on Cindy (shake your head)
Anna, Can us mothers truly say we wouldn’t defend our own children. As much as we knew they were guilty, Can we say we can truly let go of them?
This is sad because not only did they lose their granddaughter, they are going to lose their daughter as well.
Now naturally, we would be angry at the world because we lost our granddaughter,especially to the hands of our daughter.
This is why my heart is torn in 2. In one hand I feel for them, on the other hand I have such hatred for what they are doing.
I couldn’t imagine what I would or could go through if something like this happened to me.
Naturally I would feel like it’s my fault, like, where did I go wrong, what could I have done differently for this not to have happened.
Maybe that’s where Cindy feels she have to clean up and cover up, She feels it was her fault.
By all means, I’m not trying to sway either way. I just want to understand it all.
What can I do right now as a mother to make sure this doesn’t happen to my family? I feel I’m doing everything I know of right. At the same time, This can happen to anyone. It does scare me to some degree.
I feel that if Casey walks, It will send a very bad message to our kids as a whole. I don’t want that to happen.
PAW69 said,
in January 15th, 2009 at 7:22 am
M2C, you know what goes through my mind alot, That phone call between Casey and I think the other girl’s name was Christi. She said that if anything happened(s) to Caylee she’ll die. She was devastated as well. Casey is so cold hearted, hell, she doesn’t even have a heart. Casey has put EVERYONE through the meat grinder
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PAW– I also have obscesed about that phone call. I think Christi was the one who answered the phone when Casey was in jail and called to talk to somebody at the ant’s house; Christi kept her on the line to talk out of true concern for Caylee. Christi asked all of the obvious questions that anybody with a normal brain and heart would have. Caylee had a convincing, poised response to all of those along with a placating, yet dismissive, tone…subtitle: “are we through yet so I can talk to the person I really called to talk with???”
I think the reason this conversation stays with me is because so often in life I am the Christi and people around me are placating just to get me off their backs. Just an insight.
Lulu, I sometimes feel that way as well. Seems to me, people hate the truth.
i know i would stand by my child but i would not in no way cover up for a murder especcialy my g/child..i myself had a hard life and i know some of my actions are a result of the way i was treated but then there are lots of people who were treated like me and didnt do the same things i did..m had a family that was there for her and were willing to help her im sure c was very controling but its no excuse for murder, and ontop of that no remorse..i think if m had shown remorse from the beginning alot of people might feel diffrently and all c has done is blame e1 but her daughter..i suppose and hope we would never be in the position they are..also many men have killed thier children and thier parents are behind them just not like c..did that make sence??
PAW - we are on the same wavelength about the family dynamics and the way people are raised forming the premise for their actions, e.g. protecting one’s children, smoothing things over.
The question is: where do we morally draw the line in the sand? I would say when murder stares you in the face you have to face reality. After all, it is a felony in our country and is against the 10 commandments.
in thoes phone calls m was not concerned her child was missing altho she knew for 31+ days, m was soley concerned with talking with her b/f…and nothing and no one else matterd even caylee
I have a funny feeling the meter reader is a good guy and people around him were less than competent.
So much about this case speaks volumes about our society at large. It is a sociologist’s orgy.
Anna, that’s the part I truly don’t understand. How can a child grow up to be so, what’s the word I’m looking for? How can someone grow up to be like Casey? Where does that come from? Where do they learn that from? Is it something in the brain that just never connected from conception or what?
need to put a log in the fire haveing a piece of fresh homemade apple pie,
SEEE YAAAA
PAW - It is a personality people are born with, unfortunately. And it is rare. It is chilling because they are so good at deception, charm and cunning.
i pray m doesnt walk cuz of some stupid misteak someone made i think thats what bb is going for with all his motions..confusing the pros so they will make a misteak!
Anybody know if Lee is still employed? Does he still have a girlfriend?
XOXO 8:21 Agree, all this is making my head spin and there does seem to be enough forensics and circumstantial evidence (not reporting missing child for 31 days; conflicting stories of kidnapping; and lies, lies lies) to put M away.
PI’s poking around, psychic’s phone bill doesn’t mean squat to M is a killer. That can all be handled separately if it is obstruction. The bag does not appear to be moved - there was grass growing through …
No justification: The accused was not of minor age whenever she, by however means, disposed of the child. Story that sindee (as y’all call her) could NOT have forced her to keep the child. She could have placed her for adoption had she chosen, no matter how angry, sad, etc. her parents had been.
Yes, Lulu, murder is a felony, no matter how you bundle it. If sindee and/or anyone else are concealing facts, they are obstructing justice. A murderer is a murderer irregardless of the relationship, and this would again be “enabling” as is the reason for their lunatic daughter’s behavior.
Lulu, Is it something that can be “fixed” , treated if someone knew the signs to look for?
I don’t think anyone knows about Lee’s employment or g/f status.
Psychic’s credibility questioned? Is that an oxymoron? There is no way he was talking to a psychic because he first said he was talking to his ill daughter.
I think PI Casey needs to be put under oath and deposed.
Does anyone know how he came to be hired by the Ants? Did he just call up? Did they find him in the yellow pages? Because the level to which he is going to help them cover up suggests a relationship stronger than a recent job. Was he dating Psycho? Who is he? Where did he come from?
Is it me or does anyone else see way too many people helping the Ants with their bullshit stories? The psychic, the PI?
There are way too many coincidences here that are making me nutty:
1. Psycho says that she has a nanny named ZG for a good year an a half - but there is no nanny.
2. Psycho goes to the apartment complex and sees a name of ZFG on a card and uses it to further elaborate on her nanny lie.
3. The woods where the baby is found are surrounded by two properties owned by one family with the name Z and the other with the name G.
WTF is going on here? I don’t understand how these coincidences are possible.
Can someone explain this to me? I am going batty trying to make sense of this. Even if she used the woods as the fabricated nanny, how is it possible that she located a woman with the same name AFTER she had fabricated the nanny?
Oh, good morning ladies and gents. Sorry, should have said howdie:)
Effective treatment: A 2 x 4 across the behind!
Silly PI DC use to work for Baez first. That’s where he came from.
Flash said,
in January 15th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Effective treatment: A 2 x 4 across the behind!
Abuse is not the answer.
Let me ask this maybe through an example, that might illustrate my confusion better (example, not real below).
1. For over a year and a half I tell everyone I am leaving my dog Henry with a dog sitter named Lucy Ball. No one has ever met Lucy Ball. No one has ever talked to her. No one knows anything about her. And apparently no one cares either.
2. My dog suddenly disappears and I tell everybody that Lucy Ball has Henry and that I must find Ball and Henry.
3. I take the police to Lucy Ball’s last known residence, where it is proved that no Lucy Ball lives there. However, the police find a card with Lucy Ball’s name on it because she came to look at an apartment.
4. Turns out I have a friend who works at that apartment building and I was visiting and saw the name Lucy Ball on the card. But how did I just happen to find someone with that name after I had fabricated it for nearly a year and a half?
5. My dog Henry is found in the woods.
6. The woods are surrounded by two properties. One owned by the Ball family and the other has a Lucy owner. Okay, so that is Lucy Ball. But again, how did I happen to have just this name for a year and a half? And how is it possible that the card I saw at the apartment had the name Lucy Ball on it?
I am so confused… how is this possible? Anyone?
hello again I agree with you lulu … you always make sense sillybutt you are again soo right Flash ,,, always love to read what you post and others as well,
yes if we can see the signs ,, as parents we will need to get help for that son or daughter ,,,
sometimes they dont want help . they want to control, and they Know Mommy.dearest &dad will be there for me,
Silly, Lucy and Ball are well known first and last names in that area?
Cindy wouldn’t have had to accuse Casey of murder. But there were so many ways to confront clues:
such as wait a minute Casey, now you’re saying in your gut she’s okay, but the night we found you, you said, from here on out, her life is never going to be the same???
or:
the car smells like death, and you’re saying her life is never going to be the same, are you trying to tell me she is dead?
instead…
I never asked her.
George is PW’d plain and simple. In his first interviews with LE, and I am paraphrasing, he said “this is just between us, right” and he incriminated M with facts about smell in car and her not wanting him to see trunk. He also said she would push you right to the limit and then push some more.
He had some backpeddling to do, when that tape was released. He is not going to be able to backpeddle on the stand.
During the jailhouse phone conversations between M and her parents, I have watched G sit back a few feet from C while she is talking to M. He is in another world - probably singing to himself “Hi Ho the Dairy-O, the farmer in the dell….”
I’m not sure why Leevil is being granted all this immunity. We are all speculating, be LE must have something. Or did I miss it? Exactly what has come out about Leevil?
dog henry, lucy ball, Good one silly LOL
we hear what you’re saying yes it is confusing (vampire face, with satans pointed ears) planned this a LONG LONGGG time before this ever happened (disappearance) Murder ,, bless little Caylee
oh oh someone is going to ask me how do i know satan has pointed ears ?? hahahahahahahahaha
One thing I am not sure about is whether M ever told anyone Zenaida’s last name before all of this. Her friends I believe had heard of Zanny. Her mother certainly heard about Zanny during the month that M and Caylee were away from home. But had anyone including her family (who we can’t believe anyway) heard the full name (first and last or all three)???? BEFORE the 911 calls?
But now I know why CA put’s the abandoned house as the “nanny”. For 1 1/2 yrs She maybe put Caylee sedated in that abandoned house, She knew that 1 owner was named Zenaida and the house next to it was owned by a last name of Gonzales. She put the 2 names together as Zenaida Gonzales. Then when a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales went to look at the apartment, She found her perfect “nanny” name.
Casey knew whether or not that abandoned house frequented. If it wasn’t, then she used it to put Caylee there when she wanted to go party. Question is, did she use it when she had to “go to work” as well? Go to work = stuffing her mouth. Maybe in a closet or something that no one would find for, sedate her long enough for her to go get her before she wakes up. Possibly even used duct tape on her at that time as well,Bounded her.
Wholly poop you guys are rollin today….I am trying to read back and a few thoughts…
xoxoxo - sick yes, she killed caylee for 31 days of freedom! That’s all caylee was worth..as many days of freedom that she could get..
Sindee and grinch BOTH knew the day they brought the car home that “something died in that trunk”…especially when she went to tonys and found that caylee was nowhere to be found.
This is why they have NEVER put maggot on the spot…jumped up and down…or came right out and said…WHERE THE HELL IS CAYLEE…STOP STRINGING US ALL ALONG…DID YOU KILL YOUR DAUGHTER?
They both knew the answer and decided on July 15th that they would both cover to get their daughter back!
Regarding Caylee falling asleep at party as evidence of drugging:
there are exceptions…
I was camping last summer when a tornado hit and all campground campers moved into a shelter, 5 hrs of lightening thunder and half of the toddlers fell asleep on picnic table benches.
I think especially when kids have very physically active days, such as swimming, they are exhausted and can sleep anywhere.
paw~ i was also confused by the coincedental names of zenida+gonzales untill i found out they are really common names there just like jose would be in mexico or texas(i think texas)
Morning!!!
In the FBI interview, Cindy said she’d been to a morgue, and also had a patient die where the smell went thru vents into other patient rooms. She said she knew the smell of decompostion.
Paw, no I put the house as the nanny and CA thinks that the chlorie was related to this somehow. Me and CA, we are on a roll.
As to your question, Lucy and Ball are the owners of property on each side. Don’t know if they are well known. I know some of my neighbors near me, but I don’t know the neighbors way down the street. So they might not have known them because they were so far down and away from the Ants cave.
And she did at least tell Sin Nanny’s name.
Here is the kicker though… even if she planned this murder for over a year, what luck that she finds that name on a card in the apartment complex, eh? I think something was going on at that apartment complex and she knew it better than she admits to. Maybe people partied at one of the empty apartments? What are the odds that on the day you stop by to visit your friend, a card with the name of your fake babysitter appears?
WB CA, Hiya Pickles.
I don’t think that Roy Kronk should have to defend himself at all, but this case has become so convoluted with such a tangled web of lies and deceit that nobody can be trusted to be telling the truth.
Everybody wants a piece of the pie! What a pity that so many people are using this child’s misfortune for personal gain! It’s absolutely disgraceful that Casey and her deceitful family are gaining so much fame that high powered professionals are willing to prove that they are so good at what they do, that even a child killer can get off with their help! All of their work without compensation? I doubt it…they’re banking on her acquittal. If she’s acquitted, she’ll do a book, movie, etc. and they’ll all make their fortune, including the bankrupt, unemployed Casey and family! This will surely be an “american tragedy”.
C~A, you are right, parents have always known. All the interrogating, questions and heated arguments were probably made in the house when M was home, out on bond.
These jailhouse interviews are acts. They are putting on a play for us and LE. The truth came out in the house. Or did they just sit there and talk about the weather?
Gonzales is a very common name, that is true. But not that combination, Zenaida. Smith is a common name, but Alister Smith is not in the US.
I think she kept Caylee instead of giving her up because C was probably pretty adamant about it and said they’d help support her. M knowing herself and knew she was a piece of crap probably thought if I go against her then she’ll kick me out and I don’t have anything to fall back on. Probably looked at Caylee as a meal ticket with her parents until they got tired of the sponge.
hey everyone had to pop out to do baths gots to work and it is -25 here. I just made arrangements with my neighbor to take my girl so she dont even have to be taken out and about to daycare… for me i still have to be out in it
blah…
yah i think with all the evidence its a win for the pros.
i too feel both ways towards ants.. back and forth…
its a horrible situation M put everyone into…
i blame M for the actions of the parents i truly do… had this never happened would these people still act this way? we dont what kind of people they were before all this…
OMG i cannot believe i have to work in this crap today! alot of my job involves driving to and from clients houses., and boss called and naturally changed my schedule for today which means more being out in the cold
whereas before i had 2 houses and could have stayed stationary
but, no not now 
Oh so Baez brought in PI Casey? Well then someone should find out if Bozo happens to also have known the psychic… sounds to me like these are his actors on the stage covering stuff up.
Nightengale! That’s true about toddlers being able to sleep during anything! That’s the problem with this case and with our trying to figure everything out. If we (LE) could find out if Caylee slept thru ALL the parties or most of them then that might indicate drugs were used. We just don’t have enough information.
anna - M knew kids in grade school - at least one named Zenaida and several named Gonzales.
So those names go way back with her. Perhaps the coincidence of running into those names several times in her life plus the “zanny” nickname for xanax made her use the names.
H. Lee is well known for stealing and destroying evidence as well. So I have to wonder if DC is also known for that as well. Same with the Officer who has had a history of not doing his job, who is also now being investigated once again for the same reasons. Too many people on the defense dream team have some kind of record of not doing their job and destroying evidence.
I’ll see you all tonight, I read each and every post and love how informative you all are cause I miss alot during the day and evening
stay warm!
XO - you asked if this never happened would C & G still act this way?
They’ve BEEN acting “this way” for years. C denying M’s pregnancy (at 7 months) at her brother’s wedding for example. C protecting/defending M for stealing from herself and then from the grandparents. G ignoring the fact that M was stealing from Caylee’s little piggy bank. I’m sure it goes all the way back to school. You know the kind of parents whose kids get into some trouble and they blame the teacher or school. Like when C & G went to complain that M couldn’t graduate from HS because she was part of a credit short. It wasn’t M’s fault. It was the school’s fault for not letting them know sooner! I don’t think M has ever been held accountable for anything by her parents. Didn’t she admit that to Leevil the night of June 15? Maybe someone can help me remember just what she said about being stopped sooner (or whatever).
So my answer (IMO) is that yes, this is just an extension of what c and g have done ALL ALONG!
Have a good day XO.
Paw:
This whole thing is really messed up with regard to the defense side. I have never seen anything like it. They won’t provide answers to basic questions, like where does the sun rise and where does it set? Seriously, think about this, these are basic questions:
Who is the father of your child?
Who is the nanny and if there is no nanny, where did you leave your child?
How are you paying for your defense team?
These are basic questions and we can’t get answers to them for heaven’s sake.
silly - the combination could have come from the owners of the two houses and/or the real ZFG’s apartment application. I don’t see what’s so special or interesting about this name. She made the effing thing up! Doesn’t matter why. There is no effing nanny and never was!
G Morm C~A yes we are rolling in here , eh? should be it that casey is convicted and sentenced to life ,,,,( she( AIN”T ))gonna make it ” look at Jeffery Dalmer how he was hated & was murdered by fello inmates ,
look at that priest cant remember the name molested raped 60 children or more,,, he didn’t make it ,,how many others I’m surprise Susan Smith is still alive … another b***h should have gotten the D,P that one ,,They all should get the DP they dont deserve to breath the nice air or enjoy the sun even if they see it through an opening in a wall, lol
another one I remember that school teacher who got a 16 year old to murder her husband promised all this money
well Hopefully IF Casey is found Guilty of capital Murder Fry her ,,, hang her in the public square, what happened to the electric chair ? is it obsolete? AHWWWW tooo bad. as you see Death Penalty for Premeditated murderers , Damn!! we dont have it IN Canada its been abolished
oh, and silly. Back in the beginning there were 400 Zenaida Gonzales’s found in the Florida data base alone. So yes it is a common combination.
I was just wondering why and when she elaborated on it by adding the Fernandez.
That’s why ZFG’s visit to Sawgrass is interesting.
Its really sad how a spoiled brat can do such a horrible thing to thier child, and bring her WHOLE family down with her! Then again it is the Ants fault for falling in that pigs trap. M wasnt new to the ants, and they were and are aware of what crotch rot is capable of. I think that if the Psychic is tied somehow to Baez, then the defenses best bet is to come clean, however I think that LE has played the bull sh## game long enough with these clowns that they should just tell her to spill the beans and lock her up for good.
Has anyone ever noticed on NG, and how NG flashes the pics of Caylee? To me there are many that Caylee looks just like her grandmother. I wonder if C ever see’s that in the pics?
Casey is starting to put the weight on in prison. She is gonna turn out to look like Susan Smith in prison. Has anyone seen pics of her lately, no one would want her now, because she looks like a big fat pig, and Casey is on her way there too!!! Soon she will be asking for a larger prison jumpsuit!!!!!
Has anyone heard of a mother who killed her child being killed in jail? I have not. The most recent killers are still alive and kicking with one of them possibly winning a new trial. So I’m not depending on the other inmates to “take care of” M with any finality.
My2Cents… it is important precisely because she made it up.
Because for over a year and a half (again example) Lucy Ball is the name I give to my mom and others. Yes, it is made up - that we get. But what are the odds of walking into an apartment complex, seeing the name Lucy Ball on a card and claiming that is the Nanny?
What are the odds that the two properties around the woods are one owned by Lucy and the other by Ball?
This is important because if she kept the baby in that little house, then her nanny was the fictional person, but REAL location.
Here is what I am curious about and cannot find. Did she tell others about the apartments relating to her fictional nanny? I mean before she killed Caylee and before she visited her friend? Did she tell anyone that nanny lived at this apartment complex before?
M2Cents:
400 in a state the size of Florida is tiny. I would also bet most of them are in the SouthEast, not in Orlando.
CAPY - Remember the bond hearing…sindee and grinch on the stand…both were asked how much time each of them got to spend alone with casey before LE got there on jUly 15th?
That was the same day (JULY 15th) that when they got the car home and it smelled so bad…sindee said to grinch…WE LOST HER….then they found maggott..brought her home and all shit hit the fan….Maggot spilled the beans then I think….
I just don’t think they got around to where or past why….before the cops showed up…
cops are askin sindee and grinch prob. for the same reason….they think they all had enough time to find out the truth …and when she was on bond….there was always someone there from paddys camp…so prob. not much communicating going on!
silly - here is my theory on the connection with the houses (names of fams) and the real zanaida….
she formed the name from the houses ~ Zanaida Gonzales ~ threw in Fernandez ( similar to one of the first or middle names of one of the peeps in one of the houses on hopespring) just for good measure.
She then sought out and tracked down a real person with that name….who says she found the name on a card or sign in sheet at the apt? She didn’t…she found zanaida fernandez gonzales in the phone book…in other words…she made up a name and then attached it to a real person….how zanny ended up at sawgrass? I am not sure…but may have nothing to do how the two connections are linked in their origin…
the very first originating thought of the name has to be with the houses…i don’t see it being the other way around…where oh, there are houses on the street with same name….and maggot didn’t know that? NO…first the houses then she found a person with that name to build on her nanny name..
basically bringing the ficticious nanny to life
That means long before she killed the baby, she was creating a plot of kidnapping and she used the duct tape so it would look like kidnapping. Was she planning to kill the baby for nearly a year and a half?
Argh… back to the potty and bed, this bug is making me useless. Every time I try to do something, I am pulled back into potty and then bed. Blah, Argh, fladkfshdfskjhdf…. I want to keep discussing this, but have to go be sick.
CA, be back later, k? We should maybe exchange emails so we can throw our theories around
see you in a few all…
I somehow believe that Sin recreated Casey by using Caylee. I think that Sin knew that she enabled M all her life to the point that there was no turning back, that when caylee was born she started all over again and tried to make it right with Caylee, to feel better at herself for what she has done with M. I think that this is where the jelousy began with M and Sin, because sin was mpore a mom to caylee than M. I think too that this is the real sick reason that sin is standing by M, because she feels guilty and a part of what has happened to Caylee.
Is it also possible that M researched online a Zenaida Gonzales, got her address and stocked her to help her with her pre med murder. It is easy to find people on line, I do it all the time when I think I havent seen someone in a long time, anddepending on the sight, you can get address, phone#. M had plenty of time on her hands to follow someone around to build her story!!!
Kris, have you ever used http://www.veromi.com? I can find friends from long ago. I don’t sign up for all that investigating crap. Just fun to see where they are living.
I didn’t type in http:// before the website, it did it all by itself - ha.
That’s what my daughter said when she was about 3 yo. A lamp fell over and she said “it fell over all by itself”. I’ve used that excuse now all my life.
It would help if we knew when M started using the last name Gonzales and if anyone had ever heard her put Fernandez with it before June 15.
I would not put it past M to have thought of planning a fake kidnapping to get money out of her parents. And I would not put it past her to plan to kill them and get the house. But it didn’t happen. She blew it and killed the baby.
Didn’t have any plans for what to do then.
Her behavior afterwards is inexplicable. All I can think of is that she’d gotten away with everything so far in her life and she figured she’d lie her way out of this when the time came. But it didn’t work out that way.
I really do think that C made that last 911 call a few minutes too soon. I think if M had told her that she’d killed Caylee, or that somehow Caylee had died while in her care, that C would never have reported it. We’d never know about this at all. What do you all think?
fake kidnapping? Kinda like Fargo
I think she would have still called 911. Because for that 1 moment, Cindy was being real about it all. But that 1 moment didn’t last. All you need, is that 1 moment.
Capy - people were speculating that M might have been planning a “kidnapping” all along. The only percentage I see for M in that is if she managed to get money out of it for herself. That usually goes along with a kidnapping and would nicely “top off” also getting rid of the child. Just out of the atmosphere speculation. That’s all.
Has anyone figured out any possible story line that Bobo could spew that would make us say “Oh, OK, I get what happened now”? For the life of me I can’t, other than the fact there isn’t one…
Bmore, other than using Lee as the father and PPD and parents forcing her to keep Caylee, Which is all BS and still not an “oh ok, I understand now” excuse…. I have no idea…I think he should try for a plea deal.
I still keep going back to the pool at M’s house, the bathing suit, etc. the dogs hitting on the back yard. That clue really bgs me. Does anyone think that sometimes M and Cayleee left, and after c and g were gone, she came back to the house during the day? Then one day, decided to hold Caylee’s head under water?
Or duct taped her mouth so noone would hear her scream and threw her in the pool?
Paw, you wondered about causes…it is series of causes, initially some possible genetic predisposition, but combined with the quality of parenting will either make it or brake it. Although below describes diagnosing by early adult life, as a child therapist, intervention at that point is too late. Early indicators in early childhood would be lying and stealing, trouble with peers, and emotional disconnectedness and disorder best intervened and minimized if done early, prior to age 10.
Narcissistic personality disorder
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedi
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:[1]
has a grandiose sense of self-importance
is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
believes that he or she is “special” and unique
requires excessive admiration
has a sense of entitlement
is interpersonally exploitative
lacks empathy
is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
[[edit] Hypothetical causes
The etiology of this disorder is unknown according to Groopman and Cooper. However, they list the following factors identified by various researchers as possible factors.[3]
An oversensitive temperament at birth
Overindulgence and overvaluation by parents
Valued by parents as a means to regulate their own self-esteem
Excessive admiration that is never balanced with realistic feedback
Unpredictable or unreliable caregiving from parents
Severe emotional abuse in childhood
Being praised for perceived exceptional looks or talents by adults
“Excessive praise for good behaviors or excessive criticism for poor behaviors in childhood”
Some narcissistic traits are common and a normal developmental phase. When these traits are compounded by a failure of the interpersonal environment and continue into adulthood they may intensify to the point where NPD is diagnosed.
Tori!! How was that cup o coffee?
Pickles,

Nightingale,
very good. Can anyone tell us how she acted in high school?
Did you find the rabbit hole I left j00ooh on the other article?
I think Kristina Chester went to high school with her
c said she was a loner with not to many friends in high school..
No, where is it?
Tori - Yes. I’ve thought about those things. I think it’s possible that M came back to the house sometimes BUT I think G was unemployed a lot of that time. So he would have been home a lot or at least had an unpredictable schedule most days.
And I think your pool theory is also very possible. Like G left for his first day on the new job on June 15 and M stayed home and Caylee died in the pool thru neglect or intention. Then she left her in the back yard in various places and then at some point moved her to the car for 2.6 days before dumping her.
Geesh.
Sorry. Wrong about the date, Tori. G left for wherever he was going on June 16 and M stayed home.
G didn’t start a new job until July 15 I believe. Sorry about that.
I know I am stepping in abit late regarding sillybut question but the Anthony family lived for quite a while in the neighbourhood so I assume M must have known that those two houses had names of Zenaida and Gonzales since she played there all the time as a child. Perhaps they were mean to the kids and told them to get the heck off their properties. As far as the other Zenaida at sawgrass perhaps M saw this as a golden opportunity to connect the dump site with the name on the apartement seeker.
Oh its on the other article…cus we all moved….I didnt want to leave you behind..
It dont matter now..cus you are here!!!
I think all of it revolves around that name I think she came up with that name and stuck with it…that is her alibi and everything she has done revolves around the name Zanieda Gonzales…all of it…its the only thing she has stuck to ..its the only thing this whole mess has revolved around..is that name…
That name in her mind is the nanny thats who had Caylee all that time…thats her story and she’s sticking to it…
Great news on WFTV Tim Miller has hired Ant’s ex attorney Mark nejame to join forces against defense team. I LOVE IT****both Tim and Mark were treated shabbily by the Ants and Bobo is making all sorts of silly requests from Tim mregharding names of all searchers during the various times Tim was in Orlando.
I think she threw the Fernandez becuase of the lady thats suing her..she got that name off the Sawgrass list.
I think its good that Nejames is working on the good side now…along with Tim Miller…maybe Nejames is going to spill some beans? OOOHH that would be awesome
But who and how saw that list?????
She was a loner in high school? And within a few months suddenly became a party animal?
You have to wonder what M does all day with only an hour of free time… There are only so many Twinkies a person can eat! Curious of what she’s drawing in her sketch pad, wouldn’t be surprised to see that on ebay in the future under the Mom’s that Kill Memorabilia section… I wouldn’t be able to live in that house anymore if I were them, with all the pics it was a shrine to that baby…
Bmore,
who would even want to buy that house?
Sad thing is, that even after the trial, we may never know. Scott Peterson never said anything.
She had a friend who workd in the front office I thought
C said she was a loner in High School…
Tori I dont think we will EVER KNOW THE TRUTH…ever..scott peterson sat ther silent and took his punishment..and no one ever found out the truth…she will most likely do the same….sit there with a smug skank look on her face and take her just deserts.
PEEEPZ!!!
***throws a marble at Pickles***
Fish!! I was gonna tap on jo00ooh’s tank…
**Slap**
perhaps she was a loner because she lost friends. Ricardo said while dating, girlfriend/boyfriend she declined a date stating she had to work. When he later saw pictures from Fusion dated that same date, he confronted and her response? “I was working but my boss sent me to Fusion to spy on his daughter.” Okay, she lies at EVERY turn., she had to have been doing that for yrs. Loses friends right and left, except for a couple since childhood. Objectively only one really cared enough to say, Casey, you have a problem get help.
G’day!
I am probably risking some critisism here, but I am not convinced that the house with the gonzales’ and the house with the Zenaida are anything more than a strange coincidence.Bizarre-yes, but I think that in their search for Zanny, the Ants discovered that Gonzales name and that Zenaida name on some kind of database and then sent their PI in to videotape to make it look like something important in order to confuse potential jurors.
Timbit…I agree with you..I think it is irrelevant to the murder and that its just a coincidence..and if it is anything more its just in the name..
All of her friends that have known her since H.S. stated she’s a liar and a thief….
Thank You Night. I’m just trying to fathom all of this. So I have tried to go straight to the source/where it all began, to try and at least understand something.
Pickles,
You are right. After they found out, m just moved on to another innocent victim
Afternoon everyone…..busy at work (LOL) but trying to catch up with my fellow bloggers here…
Pickles said,in January 15th, 2009 at 1:00 pm ..scott peterson sat ther silent and took his punishment..and no one ever found out the truth…
I AGREE 100%. she has nothing to gain by telling the truth. Even he’s on Death Row and still sits silent. sick.
And Orlando was the perfect place. Wouldn’t have happened in a small town
PAW69 one of my son’s spelling words this week is PAW!!
Sillybutt
You said you are still wondering who is footing the bill for the defense- I have been thinking long and hard about this, and since nobody relevant (lawyers) can directly profit from a loss, it’s unlikely they are doing it for free.
it is occurring to me that possibly Geraldo is footing the bill on this one. he seems to be pro defense, and he would have something to gain with this, because it might give him some
ratings, especially if he is given privileged info from defense to have a “different ” version of events than other media. I haven’t actually watched him though, so I don’t know if he has any “breakthroughs” that others don’t have. His company could probably afford it though, and he would gain more benefit than almost anyone else I can think of.Hve C and G ever appeared on his show?
Awwwwwwww Pickles. Right on
According to her dad (and judging by her grades) my crack addict ex fiance (who acts very much like skanky baby killr…just would never harm her child) she was very well behaved until she got out of high school. Wasn’t til after that that the mania and depression started to rear it’s ugly head. There were warning singns but nothing. Then the wildness and the drugs….it all went down hill from there.
Our body chemistry changes every 7-10 years. We can develop new allergies, skin and hair changes, and even changes in the chemical make up of the brain. Probably what happened to my ex.
This psycho baby killr…no way that is her case. The manipulative behavior and pathological lies are something she has been doing for years. Her change was chemical…she has always been a psychopath.
Oh and the papers for the foster family are final. Cracky Mc Crackhead actually signed them rather than having it go to court. She wants the best for her child. I’ve always said that this bitch baby killer has less morals and decency than an addict in the street. Case in point…
I heard they came out with a new Clue game. Maybe we could too. In the pool with the shovel,in an abandoned house with duct tape, in the trunk with the chlorform, Ms M, the nanny, the meter reader, etc.
Scott Peter-face still maintains that he is innocent…
Hilarious Tori
There are so many possibilities!
Goldie, that makes it sound like a perfect defense stradegy….ughhhhhhhhhhh……
What was the game show of the 70’s where the panel all lies and the contestant has to guess which one is telling the truth?
Then the announcer says “will the real ___ please stand up”. When I think of all these characters, I think of that game show.
To Tell the Truth? was it, or Truth or Consequences?
to tell the truth
Yup, she would make a great contestant
I see that I put a ‘can’ in there where I meant ‘cant’.
I meant that her changes are not chemistry (unless you count cocaine)…took this evil teeewwaaatt years to get to the level of deception she has. She is a psycho pure and simple PAW.
Yes Goldie, which gives the defense perfect stradegy.
If she is put into the general prison pop, I couldn’t sleep a wink as her roomie.
Yeah, those two houses where M left Caylee practically in their back yards.
Some other site poster pointed out the house numbers of those houses: 4709 and 4701. M said she left Caylee between 9 and 1 with Zenaida. While G said she left at 12.50 pm with Caylee.
And M telling Detective during interview that not everything she told him was a lie.
Gosh, reminds of doing a Sudoku puzzle.
So many clues or coincidences.
snookers,
wow that’s bizarre.
She wont make it in general population in the pen..they are going to make mince meat out of her….alls them woman do is watch television..they all know Caylee and her devil mom…thay are going to mess her up…whip the shi~ out of her
Hormone change, having a baby=more hormone changes,even possible PPD,drugs,alcohol,chemical imbalance,pathological liar,Oh and don’t forget Sociopath as well. All between the age of 17-22.
That spells the perfect defense stradegy.
I think its all in the name …she has clung to that name like there is no tomorrow and she has never backed off…..The only difference is the Fernandez
And if Baez wanted to go any further, he could go with the “so-called” sexual abuse from daddy and brother as well. Controlling mother.
Dominic Casey was on the phone with psychic Ginette Matacia Lucas , states away in Virginia leading him to the place she saw Caylee in a dream.
Matacia-Lucas tells FOX 35 what she was telling Casey to look for. “You’re looking for what may look like trash. It’s not going to be a body you’re looking for. You’re looking for what looks like trash…you’re not looking for a little girl sitting on the curb.”
As Casey rummaged through the woods he stopped to take still pictures to document his search. He saw trash all over, an empty oil quart, a toilet. “He said he didn’t see it and I said keep looking in the woods,” said Lucas.
But the trash like debris Matacia-Lucas wanted Dominic Casey looking for would be next to something specific. “I said try to look for a rock or a paver or something,” said Lucas.
Eventually the psychic tells Dominic Casey to look for three pavers in a row.
The pictures show Dominic Casey finding one paver and then another one and finally after several minutes of feverishly searching he finds three pavers in a row next to an old tire.
Dominic Casey searched the area November 15, went back Sunday the 16th and then again on Tuesday the 18th. He tells fox 35 he was probably within 150 to 200 feet from where little caylee was found.
Dominic Casey says the more he found of what the psychic was describing on the phone, the more freaked out he got. He says this was a very emotional time for him.
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All of this ‘news’ from dummy-dick and his psy-kick and no one THOUGHT to tip LE about the matter???
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE
What is between those 2 houses?
The only reason she said the last time she saw Caylee between 9a-1p was cus that was Tony l.’ class schedule
Tori,
M likes numbers like that 31 days missing. Just as bizarre.
Counting back 31 from July 15,would take you back to June 15. Not June 9 as M originally reported as Caylee missing.
PAW69 said,
in January 15th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
And if Baez wanted to go any further, he could go with the “so-called” sexual abuse from daddy and brother as well. Controlling mother.
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I was violently abused by my father PAW and had a cousin who just didn’t realize that I wasn’t raised in alababmy like her and kissing-cousins didn’t fly (she still tries vamping me if she can get me alone…tramp).
That’s a lot on my mind too PAW??? Do I get to kill someone now? I certainly wouldn’t start with innocent children.
Abuse is no excuse for this…the jury is gonna be disgusted by this evil monster. Abuse is not going to fly in this one.
Tori,
No understanding question. Those are the house numbers of the last two houses on hope spring drive. No house in between 4701 and 4709.
snookers,
OK just wondered where the path was that led into the woods.
That is because the lots are over sized snookers.
Goldie!!! Calm Down. Geez. I’m saying that it’s perfect Stradegy for the DEFENSE.
I have always said , NO EXCUSES!!!
What day was Gayle St. John there and the dogs hit on the area. Then they walked down a path and they didn’t want to lose the dogs, so they left? Do you think Pi was following them. Gayle said, “We have Ohio plates, so we have to be careful”
Gale St.Fruad see’s dead ppl…
Abuse? I don’t see how, in this complicated case, they could even bring up “abuse” by the parents, sib, whatever. That would be detrimental to the defense and I do not believe they’d want this kind of twisted junk brought into the court room even if it happens to be true.
And, again, if monsteriffic had any actual psychiatric illness (previous acting out) for them NOT to be able to produce documentation of treatment would further show that they ALL were guilty of child abuse (neglect) of Caylee.
I do not believe baez would care to reveal any more of this family’s psychotic history than has already been exposed.
I’m okay PAW…just saying I don’t think a jury would buy it. If the procecution had doubts about it being an accidental death then it might swing. No this one, not murder one of a sweet innocent baby.
Pickles,
did you see the tape?
I find this kinda interesting. Especially that part that LANCE says. This is from http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/14/ng.01.html as well. Is he in not so many words admitting that Casey told him the truth??? I hope we find out more about this.
GRACE: Listen, under our criminal justice system, you do not — as much as I may not like it — you do not have a duty to be a good Samaritan. If you know where a body is, you don`t are to call police. You can just keep on going by. So the fact that Lee Anthony may have known — they`re not even saying he did, but if he may have known where the body was, that does not equal criminal charges. You`ve got to — a criminal charge, you`ve got to do more than know something, Leonard.
PADILLA: It does if you have the intention to foil the prosecution`s case by following that up with the “Zenaida did it, the other Zenaida did it,” and your discovering the body…
GRACE: Ah. If you mislead police, knowing better. I understand now, an obstruction charge.
I want to go back out to Natisha Lance. Natisha, you stated that the attorney is seeking immunity for tot mom brother Lee Anthony. Is there any indication what he believes Anthony — Lee Anthony`s involvement is?
LANCE: Well, he said that he may have information that police may misconstrue as him obstructing justice or aiding and abetting in this crime that Casey carried out. But did not get into specifics.
in aug , Cain was dispatched to suburban & hope spring when meter reader Roy Kronk reported a suspicious bag,
remains were found later in that area .
Kronk said the Deputy who responded to the call poked around the water with a metal stick,& swept his head bk & forth & said “i dont see any thing”
whats wrong with this picture? where was the BAG? thats what he went to investigate fishy here
No I dont believe in psycics..dont watch that stuff….
Cain is back to work re-assigned
Goldie, I’m looking at it as Baez’s Ah Ha, ” we will all understand” BS he was throwing around. Basically stating that all of this combined is the reason why Casey “accidentally” killed Caylee ,,,, As he claims.
Nana….the cop didnt want to get his gloves or feet dirty
What Baez fails to realize. We’re not stupid. Everyone in that courtroom will see right through the dream team, and they will look like fools.
Baez has only lost 2 cases in his career. Sinking feeling here.
And we have Henry who got Oj off and now someone from Canada.
I donot want to pick on Kronk but if he took pick of rattler why did not he take a picture of the suspicious things he saw on August 11,12 and 13. Makes you also wonder why LE does not take pics when they are investigating a tip from a citizen and file with their report. So easy to take pics nowadays.
Cop sounds like he was just bored with his job…also I recall at first finding Kronk very creepy looking and hard to watch. Cop might have thought that Kronk wasn’t all there if you know what I mean.
Not an excuse, lots of cops dissatisfied with the careers they have chosen and they get complacent.
Bad luck in this caes, but at least she was eventually found by someone who did the RIGHT thing.
(unlike dummy-dick who needs his effin ass arrested)
Tori, if I remember correctly, Baez has only had 3 cases. And those he lost. All other cases he was a sit in. Which doesn’t count for him.
Tori, The only reason OJ got off is because H.Lee stole and destroy evidence from what I understand.
Excuse me, not the OJ case, But this one….
On May 23, 2007, Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Larry Fidler, the judge in the Phil Spector murder trial, said that he had concluded Dr. Henry Lee hid or accidentally destroyed a piece of evidence from the scene of actress Lana Clarkson’s shooting.
PAW H Wee Wee dis not steal or tamper with evidence, he just did what bobo is hoping he will do here, he put his own brand of ‘what if’ and ‘alternate’ explaination of the findings spin on it.
The man is a disgrace to science, but I think he may work against the defense in this case. People are gonna remember OJ when he is on the stand and not going to relate to wee wee to kindly IMO.
1 of his past cases got life in prison no parole the other one got consecutive life’s in prison no parole and the last one got death row and one was a mistrial
4 totall
Dr.Lee is only hired to lose evidence and they all know it..its common knowledge here on the West Coast the man is a joke
Way to throw the punches bobo!!! What a loser…
What a coincidence. Linda Baden, Michael Baden and H.Lee all involved in the Phil Spector case and now this case.
No wonder it’s in such a mess.
I think from day 1, Bozo engineered to make this case a high profile so he could have a big payoff in the end. Some of the “news” being released now, is ridiculous IMO. Who cares about C ’s emails to Lois Peters. Total irrelevant. Ditto with invitations to funeral. What is next How many times a day C goes potty?
pickles he called ,,, a suspicious bag the Cop goes there , what! no bag .wheres the bag ,? poked around in water ,with a stick Kronk didn’t point to A bag the reason he had called cops CUZ he he had seen a Bag for chits sakes .. weird ….
PAW69,
Another Dr. Spitz(currently on scream team) was part of that same Spector clique too.
Somehow Kobi does not fit in with that group IMO..
LOL snookers…
…then is it number one or number two???
I personally like watching the circus IMO it makse sure it stays fresh in the publics mind and your likely to have a far more aggressive jury then.
Paw69.
Lee did do something hokie on the OJ trial . Claimed there was second footprint from another person at the crime scene. Disproven after the trial but too late for the jury.
BBIAB. Gonna go shopping and pay bills. Be good.
Forgot about that snookers…. Okay BBL.
Goldie,
I do worry about the scream team though at the trial. All those Ph.D’s cover for each other and make impressive forensic mumbo jumbo to a non scientific trained jury.
Then that clique moves on to the next high profile case in order to get another notch/victory on their belts.
As far as the cop not seeing the bag…I think Kronk didn’t see a bag there either that day, just going on his initial hunch. He just kept following that hunch when he had the chance. Good on him…at least he tried to call LE with his hunch and not a tele-pathetic buddy like dummy-dick did.
Snookers
I agree but that is also why I like the fact they keep the merry go round media running at the mouth. You will have a more aggressive and attentive jury IMO
Have to do some work.
BBL
lol Goldie-guess i’m to old to figure out this stuff. its very confusing to me
Spacely…what happed to Bobo’s to-do lists???
Goldie-Fishy
I was violently abused by my father PAW and had a cousin who just didn’t realize that I wasn’t raised in alababmy like her and kissing-cousins didn’t fly (she still tries vamping me if she can get me alone…tramp).
This is the 2nd time I have seen you write something derogotory about Alabama. I’m just wondering what your issue is with people from there. I live and work in the Birmingham area and no I do not kiss cousins nor any other male relitives. Can we just keep this about Caylee.
devans…peace it’s a poke at my backwoods nasty cousin, not all of alabama.
k peace I even have all my teeth lol
Hi,
Capy thanks so much for that link for finding people. I can use it too.
(Sorry I keep forgetting to sign in and sign off. I hang around in a room where the computer is, kitchen, eating area, and den. I’m here, but not right here, so I forget to sign out.That’s why I seem to take a long time in answering posts … sorry. Not used to this LIVE talking.)
PAW - There are voice stress tests too for truth telling. You talked about wiring Lee, etc. up on the “stand”. Sociopaths tho, I believe can FOOL lie detector tests. Maybe now they might have more than those 2 tests. Measure the brain waves too?? SHOULD use ALL on the mental patient, M.
C probably was as nice/good as she “knew how” to little Caylee. Caylee did look happy and loved, and I am sure that didn’t come from M. It obviously wasn’t enough, but maybe was her best. After the body was found … *will the real sindee please stand up?* I think tremendous stress brings out what a person *really* is. Do you think?
Betty…is all good…So whats Eugene like right now?
By the way LOCK YOUR CARS AND LEAVE NOTHING OF VALUE IN YOUR VEHICLES!!! A NICKELS WORTH OF FREE ADVICE..Tweakers suck!!!
So Betty whats the weathr like over yonder?
Hey I have cousins in Alabama…and I have hugged and kissed them…does that mean I am tainted?……. j/k
I do..in Tuscaloosa…..3 girl cousins..yappers and an Aunt….
Pickles
Ummm if all she ever did was hug then I wouldn’t think anything of it. What is more her teenage daughter is worse than her about it but I think she is just trying to get negative attention from her mom.
Anyhoo…it’s making me nervous just thinking about it so let’s just quit.
I think this defense team is based on who you know and who you blow to get this many high rollers for a nobody. If by a snowballs chance in Hell she does get off I’m sure some desperate person out there with nothing to lose will put her out of our misery… There are alot of sickos out there and she is one of them.
Bmore
Well if it is based on who you blow in this case I think they have the perfect client. Wunder-snatch has probably been down yonder more times than any porn star on record LOL
You know you don’t get a round mouth from eating square meals…. lol
Time to go, nice talking with you guys again… Everyone take care!
I was just joking…lightng the whole Alabama rifft
Pickles you are so onery! Love it LOL
L8drs Bmore
Hi Pickles, I guess we are lucky. Only one car, and a garage for 2, so pretty SAFE, I guess. Still put the alarm on it, even IN the garage.
Had to get a GPS, missing my internal one. Can’t find ANYTHING!!! Now, moved across country? I do take that with me, anytime I leave my car tho. Garmin’s are really good. They started with planes they told me, now do car one’s too. Amazing unit!
Weather isn’t sunny, but maybe in the upper 50’s? Not sure. Not really a nice day, but usually never any extremes. (Fingers crossed…)
Tom had some very good CNA’s when he was at the Re Hab for 2 months. Fell WHILE IN the hospital, and broke his hip! Got to know them - many going to be RNs. Good experience I am sure. If you can do that, get in a good one - better training!
Oops plane is down in the Hudson River. US Airways Jet. SO COLD … God.
Have to leave now … back later.
Capy…I cant help it…
Bmore … ha ha ha. That is how a singer is supposed to form their mouths, ROUNDED - to make “rounded tones” not wide - ugly ones. LOL
Such funny stuff from y’all.
Husband said he thinks the temp here in Eugene OR was supposed to be in the upper 40’s today.
Those POOR people on that plane. Going to N.C. White caps.. frigid water. Boeing 737 I think they said. Between New Jersey and NY. 151 were on the plane. We should pray for them …
See, still in this room … run over here when I can. Leaving shortly. Bye for now my buds…
From http://www.cnn.com
NEW YORK (CNN) — Emergency officials are responding to a downed plane in the Hudson River in New York City, according to the city fire and police departments.
The plane entered the water after a failed takeoff, the FAA says.
The plane entered the water after a failed takeoff, the FAA says.
The FAA confirmed US Airways Flight 1549, an Airbus A320 headed from New York’s LaGuardia Airport to Charlotte, North Carolina, was down in the river following a failed takeoff.
The U.S. Coast Guard said units were also responding, and a ferry on site was dropping life jackets into the water.
The plane approached the water at a gradual angle and made a big splash, according to a witness watching from an office building.
“It wasn’t going particularly fast. It was a slow contact with the water that it made,” the witness, Ben VonKlemperer, told CNN.
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Just letting everyone know. Prayers go out to them and their families.
just back for a few min. Channel 6 orlando…new video released of M, c and g in the jail. not out yet.
FERN—–AND—–EZ
Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales
Hi all… Sorry about the other night when I got slaphappy! (Hiding my face in shame here
I’m in the middle of reading your posts from yesterday and today and I needed to stop and make a couple comments:
Sheller, regarding your January 14th, 7:36 pm post. Great post! I too believe that M did not have Caylee with her most of the time and when she did she would sneak back home after C&G left for work and lounged around. Plus M told everyone she could work from home on her laptop and pretended to do that most of the time. So, until I hear something coming from LE or a reliable source I want to believe that Caylee was not drugged prior to being killed by her own mother. It’s bad enough thinking of how she must have suffered in the last hours of her life.
TimBit, regarding your January 15th, 1:06 pm post. No criticism on the contrary my compliments to a well written and thought out comment! I too believe that the Gonzales/Zenaida home is simply a smoke screen put up by the defense. (I had read somewhere that all three of the names Zenaida, Hernandez and Gonzales are pretty common names in the Florida area. (Used separately not used together)
These are a couple of my beliefs right now but
I am ALWAYS open to changing my mind if reliable evidence points me in another direction.
OOPS…make that Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales
Karma, dude. Can’t run from karma. Trust that everyone involved will have a healthy helping of karma.
May God have mercy on their souls…
One house-Zenida
one house-Gonzales
Caylee was found at the bottom of a “V” from the 2 houses.
Fern — was also at the bottom of the “V”
and it was
ez??????????
???
Maybe that’s where she got the “Fernandez”
Okie doke
Hey Therapist…did you do something wrong? I refuse to believe it.
Fernandez, in my eyes that’s stretching it to fit what you think people want to hear.
Plus how Caylee’s remains could be found at the bottom of the V if the bag was only 20 feet from the road is puzzling? I’m not buying it!
Yah we may be a bit on a tangent most of the sometimes..but I agree with Therapist..
I think killr knew that little dugout was there and put Caylee there…in that little dugout gully hole thing where she was found.
Did she or didnt she get Zanieda’s name off the list at Sawgrass..cus she even described the same exact car Zanieda drives when she told the cops.
Pickles… that’s why YOU are the sweetheart of the blog!
You hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil! … okay, most of the time anyway!
hi cyber fam
Hey C~A…
SO did she get Zanieda’s name off the list at Sawgrass…cus she described Zanieda’s car to the police
I am not innocent Therapist..but I refuse to beleive you did any wrong
Pickles she may have gotten the name Zenaida Gonzales from the Sawgrass list but not the Fernandez as it wasn’t on the list. Zenaida filled it out as C.Zenaida Gonzales
Then is it a coincidence she described a Ford Focus to LE like what Zanieda drives?
It’s difficult to pinpoint how M got Zenaida’s full name but let’s try to think it through logically.
If what Dak is saying is true and Zenaida filled the card out as “C. Zenaida Gonzales” then I think we can almost rule out that M got her name off the card in the office.
I would like to know how Zenaida’s name appears on her license. Someone said anyone can run a license plate for $19.00 and find the owner’s information. But, M would have had to use a computer because she’s couldn’t be bothered to mail it in when she was too lazy to carry Caylee’s body any more than 20 feet into the woods off the road.
M could have asked one of her cop friends to run the plate but LE would have been able to track which cop ran it. LE keeps detailed records of all that stuff.
Any other ideas?
I think it may a coincidence about the car or maybe she did run a check on the liscence.
I wish we knew Zanieda’s full name
Okay I’m caught up on what I missed last night installing Windows 7….
Why do people keep ranting about the house? The means to what end search the abandoned house? LE alredy thought they had a strong enough case EVEN WITHOUT a body. Once Caylee was found they upped the allegation and charges.
I just don’t get what you think is going to be proven in that house. Even if they could prove wunder-snatch or Caylee had ever been in there it would prove nothing at all about the murder. All the defense would have to say is their client used to go there to blow off a little steam when she was mad at the ant’s.
Be back in a bit
Another thing too not that it is important or anything but I know Zenaidas lawyers and few others siad that Casey gave the name of Zenaidas kids which she didn’t atleast in her written statement and her interview?interrogation with LE
I think the house rant is someone trying to get us all to look stupid on a ridiculous topic
I wish we did too Pickles.
WHo knows with this case anymore…All’s I know is that whole family needs to be tried and sentenced accordingly for the crimes they have all committed
and lee getting criminal immunity…they must really want his testimony against his sister.
NOOOO PICKLES!!!!
***yanks Pickles by the hair and drags her back in***
We know that the state holds evidence back from the public for the trial. So maybe that’s the REAL reason why that cop got fired. Maybe he did run that plate for her.
Someone said that M was parked at the Sawgrass apt. one day… did she see Zenaida get out of her car?
I think that’s all been thrown out there before…
Okay I know someone is going to slap me for this but here goes. Since some people seem to think Caylee is the offspring of Casey and Lee and since everyone hates the ants, then wouldn’t be almost disrespecting Caylee’s memory but associating her as a result of incest, just my thought and opinion.
Naww i’ll be back I promise
Ouch!!!
I do by my searching through myspace and all that the guy who owns the tatoo shop Casey went too does have a connection with Zenaida.
Although my hunch is that both Casey and Zenaida went to the same tatto shop for their tatoos.
Tats??? Blood sister connection??? LOL
Maybe they both had ‘Mi Vida Loca’ tattooed on themselves cuz all this speculation is some loca crapola
Sorry I butted in here.
Que?
Now thats funny Goldie
Dak is right. Fernandez was not on the saw grass registration card. M never mentioned Zenaida’s names of kids on the stuff that was released to public by LE.
. I do remember in an earlier interview with Zenaida, that LE called her and mentioned the names of two of her kids that she listed on the Sawgrass application. Freaked her out.
M never mentioned Zenaida’s kids , actually said that Zenaida had no kids. Only her phantom sister Samantha had kids.
M got Fernandez name somewhere else. Not a lucky guess though.
Que como?
This is off MomLogic so you have to take it with a grain of salt as to it’s credibility:
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In other Casey Anthony news, Roy Kronk is very appreciative to Mark NeJame, the Anthonys’ former lawyer, for his generous gift of $5,000. Apparently, Mr. NeJame received $5,000 for his earlier involvement in the case and has decided that since Roy did find Caylee, the money should appropriately go to him.
Snookers I think when LE looked into Zenaida they got that info from Sawgrass before talking to her and they are the ones who mentioned her kids names.
Goldie I think it is credible we know Nejame has talked about giving him the $5000 so maybe he finally did.
Pickles,
On the civil suit document, prepared by her attorney Morgan. She is depicted as Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez( including the hyphen) in the plaintiff section.
OMG I can’t keep up …
PICKLES - I think she looked “a” Zanaida Fernandez Gonzales” in the phone book and she stalked her….saw her car then….
C~A Naw, I don’t buy that. Goldie, channel 6 reports that Kronk did get the $5,000. But I agree Mom Logic can go %$#&.
Gotta go fix dinner see ya later.
The next time you run into any idiot even suggesting that this psycho baby killin teewwhat might be innocent show them this picture police found on her computer:
http://www.geocities.com/goldfishzero99/totmom.jpg
fergot I had the sick piece of chit. Interesting sketch if it weren’t for the effed up circumstances
Tori - what’ your theory on how the “house names” and the real zanny are connected?
Someone ought to tape it outside her cell window so she has to stare at it…
Before I found this blog, I went in Mom Logic. I felt like I was in the torture chamber from hell. Very cliquie
Goldie - I am pretty sure that Nejame is a man of his word and has a credible reputation to uphold! He wouldn’t offer if he wasn’t serious! He did walk away from the ants…
C~A, Not sure. I didn’t hear about that till yesterday, but it is a possibility. Don”t know.
Just saw part of the new jail tape. Can’t wait till it released to the public in full
CYA LATERZ PEEPS!
***leaves a pile of pebbles in the middle of the room for someone to kick at Pickles when she comes back***
Tori - I think the origin of the names was of the peeps on her street…then she brought her fake nanny to life by lookin a person up with the same name in the phone book…how it ties in with sawgrass may be a coincidence….or not…I don’t know how that fits in….but she certainly didn’t make the name up first and then realize that the woods where baby was found just happens to have the same names as the “nanny”….
Thanks Tori, ain’t seen dat…guess I gotta wait for NG
Gotta go. The pilot is going to speak. Hasta La Vista
wesh.com reported that Nejame gave Kronk $5k reward. Other interesting news in report too.
The meter reader who discovered Caylee Anthony’s remains on Dec. 11 was given a $5,000 reward on Thursday.
Roy Kronk received the money from Mark NeJame, George and Cindy Anthony’s former attorney.
After his own investigation, NeJame said he deduced that Kronk was not involved in any type of conspiracy or foul play, so he decided to give him the money he earned while working for the Anthonys.
Kronk’s attorney, David Evans, released this statement: “Roy Kronk is very appreciative to Mark NeJame for his generous gift of $5,000. Apparently, Mr. NeJame received $5,000 for his earlier involvement in the case and has decided that since Roy did find Caylee, the money should appropriately go to him. Roy is very thankful that Mark NeJame has recognized his singular efforts in finding Caylee and hopes that this sends a message to others that kindness does exist for people who do the right thing in life.”
Also on Thursday, a deputy who may have missed a chance to find Caylee Anthony’s remains was reassigned.
Deputy Richard Cain was reassigned to the agency’s material control and supply section. He also was forced to surrender his badge, gun and other equipment — and not to engage in law enforcement action on or off duty.
On Aug. 13, Kronk said Cain was rude and didn’t take his tip seriously about a suspicious bag near the Anthony home. His report stated the bag was “trash only.”
Four months later, Kronk returned to the area and found Caylee’s remains.
Meanwhile, WESH 2 News has confirmed that Anthony’s lawyer, Jose Baez, will likely file for a change of venue in the coming days.
HI all. Only have a minute but will return later.
I’ve read in several places that actually, Zenaida SIGNED her full name, Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez on the visitor’s card. I’ve been trying to confirm or find a copy of the card; so far, no luck. But I’m working on it. This one simple thing could explain a lot!
ALSO, I’ve read numerous times that M DID verbally tell LE that Zenaida had 2 kids. Yes, her written statement says no kids, but I’ve read that in another LE interview, she changed her story and said 2 kids. Again, I’ve been trying to verify this.
I wanted to get this out there because a lot of assumptions have been made about the connection. Understandable, since it’s such a strange situation.
Above all, I don’t believe there is any way that M just happened to choose the name of a person who just happened to visit the same apts where she said she left Caylee with this same person. That is just impossible (imo).
And to add to it (as pickles keeps pointing out), I also do not believe it possible that m just happened to choose someone who also just happens to drive a silver car that looks like a Ford Focus. Again, impossible (imo).
Net result for me is that BECAUSE these are impossible coincidences, I will continue to believe that m somehow did get the name from Zenaida’s visit to the apts. IT’s ok with me that we just don’t understand yet because we don’t have all the facts!
(though we certainly have hints, such as that m knew someone who worked in the apt office, who maybe took a photo of z’s driver’s license)
In other words, waiting for the ultimate “truth” is more important than assuming that m did not get her name from the apts (when all logic points to the idea that she did).
Until then, I will try my best to understand the connection (by researching, thinking through it, hearing others’ ideas).
Just sharing what I’ve heard and my thoughts on this most confusing aspect of the nightmare! bbl!
Hidy Therapini!!! I’m still laughing at your song from the other night (though for some reason, it sang in my head to the tune of “Red River Valley” — must add to ‘to-do’ list to reaquaint myself with those westerns!!!)
(Goldie - imo, you are insane for installing Windows 7. I can’t stand 7 and find Vista to be a nightmare! though mainly because my students cannot open my Word 7 docs if they have previous versions, so I have to save every single handout twice!!! I’ll be curious to see what you think of it).
mediawatcher - I’m gonna guess that you teach either Sociology or you’re in the Education Department… maybe even Psych … seems you must be in Human Sciences but not lit or history (based on your first day personality exam).
ok. gtg. See yall in a bit!
Above all, I don’t believe there is any way that M just happened to choose the name of a person who just happened to visit the same apts where she said she left Caylee with this same person. That is just impossible (imo).
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Therapist - M didn’t IMO just happen to find a person with that name she took the names of the peeps whos houses backed onto the woods she dropped baby off in ….your basically saying that you believe that the names of the peeps in the houses, ..if she got her name off the apt. visitor list..end result, was in fact a coincidence….
that IMO would be the biggest impossiblility of all..
CIT,
The Zenaida’s SawGrass is in the very first document dump,
IMO m HAD to have made up the name from names she sponged off the neighborhood …the same woods baby found in… and sought someone out with the same name…she made up the Fernandez surname …
C-A — that’s my quote, not therapist’s, so I’ll reply.
It would appear that one or the other is most likely a coincidence (but the real truth is that neither may be a coincidence–maybe after she found Z’s name she then thought about that field, knowing the names connected to the homes). But if it’s one or the other, it seems to me that the house-connection is more of a possible coincidence than the apartment-connection is. Of course, this is just a matter of opinion at this point.
My opinion is based on idea that the houses have the connection of one, individual name that is very common in the area. But the apartment connection includes 3 names, used together, in a certain order, of a person who indeed visited the same apartments near the same time period. Plus, the car connection.
It’s just that if you look at the variables, there are more variables involved with the apt-connection than the house. More variables makes it more unlikely to be a coincidence.
But as I stated, neither may end up being coincidental (though we may never know!). I can certainly see m smirking when she left Caylee at the woods, thinking to herself how clever she is bc she knows the names connected to those homes!!!
before I read…i apologize….to both of you
Thanks, snookers. I’ll look there. I’m v curious to find her handwritten signature.
Also, if m had a friend who worked at the apts, maybe Z told this person the 3 names ZFG. Could be just a verbal exchange, with no written proof.
C-A - I hope I explained that ok. I’m trying to say that if one compares the two scenerios, one seems more likely to be a coincidence than the other (if we had to choose). But that’s just my take on it and I am certainly not presenting my opinion as truth. Just an idea for now, until we know more.
concerned - but there was no REAL connection to any zanny at the apts…so how can that be less of a coincidence then the names of the peeps on her own street…where she left the baby…
what was the date zanny visited apts…do we know?
C-A - Who on earth are you apologizing to? I’ve seen you do nothing wrong! We’re all just offering opinions. (unless I missed something really bad that you did earlier that I didn’t read….nah, not likely, not our sweet Canadian C-A!!!)
cit - you bet! We are just weighing possibilities…a and b and c and d…and so on…unfortunatly almost every question at least 3-4 different possibilities…it is mind bending at the very least…
and I SUCK at trying to say what i mean…
I re-read and I’m like…line for line..uhmm…does that come across right…prob. not. 
Yes, there is a real connection with z and the apartments. She visited June 17th, I think.
Here’s the connection:
m said she dropped Caylee off to a ZFG at Sawgrass, and she was driving a silver car.
A ZFG DID visit the Sawgrass apts, near the same time that m said she dropped Caylee off, and she was driving a silver car.
That is a connection, imo.
oh cit…I was just saying sorry for putting wrong name on my reply…you make my heart smile…your so sweet
I think you explain what you mean very well. The problem is the knot of lies that m has told!!!! We’re just trying to untie a few of them. Can you imagine if we were trying to unravel everything? Nightmare!
But, I also agree that there appears to be a connection between where Caylee was dumped and the names. If those homes are truly in the names of Z or F or G, then yes, there is also a connection there. Whether a coincidental connection, we don’t yet know. (I haven’t personally confirmed that those homes are indeed owned by anyone named Z or F or G).
Sometimes connections are coincidental, sometimes not. Until we have confirmation, all we can do is weigh the plausibility of each, and I was just saying that the situation with more variables would be less likely to be the coincidence (if one had to choose). {<<did you follow that? lol — I’d like to ring m’s neck for twisting our brains}
Sorry, but I’ve gtg run an errand. I hate to leave in the middle of a conversation, but I think we’ve established that there are indeed 2 separate connections. Both may be coincidental, and neither may be. (insert emoticon pulling hair out and then slapping m because she caused it)
Yes the only REAL connection is of the visit with zanaida….i meant only real connection meaning a ZFG never lived there in the first place..
June 17th…wow…yo know maybe given that fact…1.5 or 2 days after she killed baby…still in trunk…she was desperate for anyone…zfg…pfg….dkl…ops….it didn’t matter…she needed a name and someone to point a finger at and away from her, for the moment..even though she would get caught would get her out of “whos the nanny” question…by le…she didn’t think past her wonder snatch…
I still think the names of the house peeps is real weird…wonder though…how many other peeps on that street alone have or the other of any of all three names zfg…that would explain to me that the house peeps names was more of a coincidence if there were more on the same street.
I wonder….IF M had been using the name Zenaida and/or Zenaida Gonzales as her nanny to friends, then maybe the ones at Sawgrass said, “Hey, a Zenaida Gonzales was here looking for an apartment. Is she your nanny?” Then M researched her using the info on the card, found out about the car etc. And when pressed by LE came up with that.
cit - I saw tax records or something from one of the peeps in here…was a link…had the names and maps of the house locations and the woods…was just yesterday…no clue where to find it…i live by the seat of my pants and am all over and don’t save much…
maybe someone will remember…it was sometime yesterday….
Hello All: There is a new jailhouse videotape from August that has just been released. Check out M’s temper and control of her parents.One can certainly seee how she could commit murder! The kicker is how she ends the tirade. Tell Zanny WE forgive her
scared monkeys site has records of people who live in the houses~gonna go back and read first post i saw
MTC now that theory is very plausible I like it. Also remember she was looking up Zenaida back in March.
c`a you got a good point after using the name zanni(zanax) for nannys name looking for someone to blame just coincidence zenida gonzales wanted to se thoes apt..m took it and ran with it…still think she had no clue what was gonna happen!
The shovel is another one that I can’t figure out. What did M do when she borrowed the shovel?
LE said there were only two very small marks where the earth was disturbed.
I continue to be a Kronk supporter so I’m very happy that Nejame rewarded Kronk with $5,000.
However, if what was stated on Jane Mitchell’s show last night is true and Kronk still owes $10,000.00 in back child support, I hope he continues his good guy image and pays a good portion of the $5,000 toward his child support. (I’m not holding his back child support against him because I don’t know how his wife’s illness may have affected his financial situation. It’s how he moves forward that counts in my book!)
C-A - Thanks for mulling this over with me. I think on it often. I’m going to do a tax search. I know FL has open records, so the names of current and former owners are online, for all to see. I’ll report back with the info and link when I find it. The house thing may end up being one of those creepy, eerie connections. Or not–she could have chosen that spot bc of the connection with z’s names she got from the apts.
m2c - I thought that m had never actually used the word zenaida as nanny to her friends. I could be wrong, I think she only used the words Zanny the Nanny. But regardless, you have offered a v good possibility. (not a stretch from Zanny to Zenaida)
saluki - Oh man, I hate that I’m leaving for a bit. I really want to watch that video. Thanks! (what a huge, loving heart m has for forgiving z!!!! maybe a hint to C&G for them to forgive her!!!)
As I said earlier the names Zenaida and Gonzales had come up in M’s life since grade school (fellow students). Now we find that two houses on her street were owned by people with those names. Plus zanny could easily have started as the nickname for xanax and then become the nickname for nanny and been easily used as a nickname for Zenaida.
And remember the psychologists say that sociopathic liars like M take bits and pieces of true things to weave into their lies.
It would be interesting to know exactly when she started using the name Zenaida and/or Zenaida Gonzales. I’m sure M’s friends wouldn’t care. Did C ever ask for a last name? She didn’t seem to even need a phone number.
m2c~ as for child support goes my daughters father wasnt in a position to pay i needed help they knew where he was and he could not pay…he got out and i waved what he back owed me cuz he had no way to pay..child support still wants so much money from him and believe me we did not get that much help i was working full time and recived minumal help..
CHSAH sorry about this delay. I have only been to Ben&Jerry’s icecream store. We eat outside, when nice. They are on Coburg Rd. in Eugene. N of Albertson’s - our huge Food Market.
They are in the same little complex that has Newman’s Fish store (their new one). GREAT, great fresh fish. I naver had fish like this in my east coast life!
I am convinced, that all this insanity that boggles our minds, makes our heads spin, muddy’s the waters, is just the Defense’s game plan to confuse us, make us feel crazy, and take the MAIN FOCUS off of the MURDER of this dear little girl, and her KILLER MOTHER. That’s where the focus should always be, but they are fighting HARD to prevent that! I always think of that poor Jury who will be a captive audience, having to sit thru what is to come. I think the info we have now, is NOTHING compared to what is coming!
also now that hes able i have no problem its always paid and when he switched jobs he sent money in so i didnt get behind…i consider myself lucky so many men avoid that responsability!
Concerned in Texas, I agree with everything you said in your 6:49 pm post. I thought that all along until Dak threw a monkey wrench into the works regarding how Zenaida sign her name at Sawgrass.
Now, for a REAL stumper… What do you think M used the shovel for when she borrowed it from the neighbor?
okidoki~later!
I think she was considering burying Caylee, but it is really difficult to dig holes where there are many tree roots, and Kudzu vine roots, she probably tried and said the heck with it and just dumped the bag. She only had the shovel for approximately an hour, so I don’t think she tried too hard, and besides she is really lazy and obviously she could not con anyone into doing it for her. She did however con C who claimed she was digging up bamboo shoots in the yard. After all M is the exemplary mother of the year!!
Sorry for throwing a monkey wrench in there Therapist, I’ll try not to do it again(LOL).
In the new lost video. One must be sure to compliment her on not losing her temper for the last 30 days in jail. She talks about it like she should be getting a sticker or something.
And we must be sure and feel really, really sad for poor kilr…she doesn’t have anyone to comfort her. boohoooboohhooo….. urp… bleeachek, excuse me…I feel sort of sick.
Lulu and Paws…
I noticed that people who are the voice of reason, as I think you two are, and who KNOW how things should be done, are extremely annoying to those who THINK and act very differently than they do. Especially WHEN/IF they try to teach them the correct way. They just don’t “get it”, nor do they want to.
Maybe Sindee started that with M, but I think she was a dollar short, and decades too late…
WHAT a PILOT that was in NY! THE BEST!
C~A if that apology included me… there is no need to apologize.
hey search warrant affidavit that was obtained for things found at the location where caylee was found will be released next week. Telling us what was found at the scene to warrant the affidavit and what was retrieved from the anthonys house….on JVM
Thanks TW - I came back just in time to see that… muah!
SALUKI, I’m going to look for that new jailhouse videotape right now. It sounds disgusting…especially when she said “Tell Zanny WE forgive her” Just like CIT said… she was giving hints to her parents to forgive her. She’s rotten scum!
CIT,
I think that Lee and M might have had a code talk that they have used for many years, to get around controlling C when they were younger.
I also think it is unusual that the last digits on those two homes house numbers are 9 and 1 (4701 and 4709) where Caylee was found.
M said she left Caylee at Sawgrass between 9 am and 1 pm. Yet, she remembered that she got back at 5.30 pm. That 9 am and 1 pm also did not mesh with G statement(M leaving at 12.50 pm).
Lee might have had a good clue to tell Dom where to look.
LE should go with a fine tooth comb over all Lee and M’s recorded conversations.
M did not talk to C & G in code IMO.
snook~sleuth…awesome deduction on the last numbers of the homes….I am sooooooooo impressed…see this goes along with the way she remembers her lies…if she remembers the “real facts _ houses end in 1 and 9…when asked when she dropped her off…she can always use the houses as a “string on the finger” as to what she originally said.
snookers, are you sure M was not more specific about the time she supposedly dropped off Caylee at Sawgrass that day? It sounds too weird for her to say “between 9 and 1″ and not even know if it was 9:30 or 12:30 or whatever, you know? I can’t find her first statement (at Universal) and I think that’s when she said that.
I think M might have used the shovel to get Caylee in the trash bag. She didnot want to touch Caylee with her hands after 2.6 days in the trunk. Did get stuff on her pants though. She did clean the shovel good prior to giving it back to Burner though. aybe in the swimming pool since that had chlorine in it.
MTC - I also remember the same fact from the horses mouth …between 9 and 1..cause i remember thinkin…thats a huge window…
M2C,
No she was not more specific.. Stated between 9 and 1 . It is in first document dump. I always thought that was funny because on the day your daughter goes missing , you tend to remember everything to the T. Not a 4 hour time span.
Windows 7 rawks Tex. The only way I could see anyone disliking it is if it were on bad hardware or an underpowered machine.
I did not like the Vista RTC. Downgraded so many machines and worked on so many hardware issues it wasn’t funny.
I have using the Server 2008 demo with the Vista registry hacks up at work for almost 3 months now. Very stable (though at home it was slow because my memory really wasn’t up to snuff but it was way more stable than Vista RTC ever was).
Windows 7 is only running at home so far (will put it on my work laptop this weekend if all the software I need at work turs out to be bug free). It is running on a 1.94 ghz processor with 512mb RAM (had a gig but found out some of it was bad). All the visual tweaks off. I haven’t got software on it yet but the basics of it simply rawk. I have been beta testing MS stuff since the Windows 95 / NT Chicago beta and MS has never put out such a complete and stable Beta ever. I’m keeping up with the tech blogs and seeing very few valid complaints. Most the complaints I see are from people who have almost no tech skillz and have no business installing beta software anyway.
and she can say what she wants about when she dropped her off…cause aint no zanaida to say otherwise..and yes…grinch couldn’t have seen them at 12:50 for one his description a month later leads me to believe he didn’t see her (baby) at all the next day…Once g and sin got the car home…they knew…and began the cover for maggots a@@. G DID not want LE to think that the last time he saw caylee was when m stormed out mad as hell and took the baby…he wants le to think everything AFTER the fight was status quo….as not give LE motive..( the fight) as reason she killed caylee in the heat of the moment on june 15 …WHEN BABY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN BED…SINDEE FAILED THAT BABY THAT NIGHT….I BELIEVE BABY WAS KILLED OVERNIGHT OF THE NIGHT OF THE 15 OF JUNE …AFTER SHE DRAGGED BABY OUT OF THE HOUSE AT MIDNIGHT…
Baby Killin Beyyotch is very good at playing with words. The name zanny was funny to her because not only did it refer to the woods / houses link but it also was slang for the xanax she was doping the poor baby with.
Psychopathic minds click on things like that, I know and have experienced it.
The full name all had to do with the houses and code to ‘The Family’ (Manson reference intended and the code talk was meant for the family…leevil is too big of a dolt to figure it out and controling manipulative teewhat knew that). She threw in the Fernandez to mess with LE and give the ant’s time to find the drop spot and move little Caylee.
Betty1.
O/T. Yep, what a pilot. Did a controlled ditch with that plane. Never really lost control of that bird. Just amazing.
C~A Never heard sin even saying there was a disagreement that night, just going on like everything was hunky dory. It took Levil admitting to friends there was the hands around the throat incident for that to come out. Queen of denial…she is.
NG time peepz
NG has lost my fleeting attention span…oh wait is that her fleeting attention span???
Birds get trapped in plane engines all the time and cause mechanical probs. This is not as big of news as all that. Still statistically more risky to frive your car or play outside in a thunderstorm than fly.
Pray no one got hurt, but gravity kills and all.
*drive
BUT GRINCH DID SEE MAGGOT THE NEXT DAY WITHOUT CAYLEE…THAT EVEN COULD HAVE BEEN THE BEGINNING OF THE COVER UP…
Sheller Sin is almost as good of a liar and manipulator as her bitch-cur baby murdering spawn is. baby killin tewwwwhat learned it somewhere.
I agree with some previous posts, Sin was in panic mode on the last 911 call because she isn’t so twisted she would actually commit murder. Ten minutes after getting off that phone though she went back into heinous devil beeeyotch mode again and started practicing the lies and manipulation she taught her daughter so very well.
Good call snookers…pilot deserves a raise. Very controlled nice landing. It could have been very bad indeed. A nose dive or bad angle and that plane might have cracked or fallen apart.
Much like bobo’s and the baby killr he reps case seems to be doing
Thank you CA and Snookers: I guess I couldn’t believe it then and I still can’t!!! LOL! That M couldn’t remember exactly when she “dropped of Caylee” the day she was “kidnapped.”
Couldn’t she have just checked her work records to see what hours she worked that day? LMAO!
She hadn’t worked anywhere in almost a year M2C
Goldie - I know that. I’m being sarcastic.
All the talk of where she got the name Zenaida Gonzales. Do you also remember she said Z was referred to her by Jeff Hopkins because Z was the nanny for his child. When he was contacted, he hadn’t spoken to M for ages and he wasn’t even married. Weren’t they just casual acquaintances in high school?
WHAT IS SHE CRYING ABOUT ALREADY…? LIKE SHE DOESNT’ FEEL THE PAIN OF CAYLEE BEING MISSING ….TYPICAL…IF IT’S NOT ABOUT HER IT’S NOT JUSTIFIED…
The second thing, relating to the possibility that g has prob been covering up….when she is asked who she wanted to talk to ..SHE CHOOSES HIM…THE FATHER SHE HATED? CAUSE MAYBE HE HAS HELPED HER COVER UP SINCE JUNE 16
He has never shown any true or real emotion…he tries to do the right thing..however…gj..but wants it held secret..maybe havin second thoughts on his role…keepin all from sindee…she is the ony one that seems to cry real tears with this new video..or show real pain or any kind of stress in her face…g sits back…
i suppose we can al hash and rehash this case to the end kinda funny all senerios about ething e1 comes up with…in the long run thats all were doing is rehashing something keeping it in the news…sorry if i offended anyone jmo…
anna - what? we have to keep it in the news…we are caylees voice…we want justice…what are you trying to say anna?
capy - I often wondered why she did’t just leave peeps out of the whole zanny circle that could discredit her story…why not just say she met her at fusion and nobody else knew her…to make her lie stretch that much further…with no dicredits to knowing someone else that she babysat for that would debunk her lies…???
I mean….why make up the whole nanny thing so far in advance….just say i made a mistake and let someone babsit my child that i didn’t know…and now she is gone….she might have gotten away with that one…
but grinch always said she took things to extreme and that might of been too boring for her…needs more excitment to along with the intenitial homicide…she craved attention…that will utlitmatly put her behind bars and her elaborte twisted lies.
C~A she chose dad cuz she has daughter diddling crap over his head…momma sin aint never been nothing but a pain to the baby killr….she chose the one she had control over and could manipulate.
Snookers, I did notice Lee was always taking notes, when he talked to M.in jail. Paddy said too, Lee always carried around this “book” with him. Sure thing, they HAD to keep track of their lies, codes, etc. I think you are right. But,they could have had time to set them up on one of the oaccasions when she was home on bail?
Saw the new tapes. Parents falling apart, especially the mother. M? Smiling, very UP-BEAT!
She was getting out on BAIL!!!! YESSS! Only SHE COUNTS! No one else! She is missing an organ, a heart! So, so, so, so sick!
~couldnt even finish watching the last vidio~ she is soself centered and with a missing childits to unreal and the ants console her and make it ok…and shes behind bars…whatever such dysfunction….unbelievable~nite guys ~anna
Props Betty1…agreed…
***sends off balloons in your honor***
Psycho Kunt lives in a fantasy world…ants totally support it for some vile undisclosed reason.
A year and a half from now she will be in fear of having her ass shanked once the homegurls are tired of using her tounge if not before.
bettt - yup m says…WHAT IS SHE CRYING FOR ALREADY??? WTF…OH ONLY YOU CAN BREAK HER HEART ….CAYLEE CANT’ IN ALL HER INNOCENSE…AND THAT FACT THAT SHE IS ‘missing’…maggot is the most jeous self centered twisted fck i have ever laid eyes on.
HER BABY IS MISSING…(AND SHE KNOWS SHE IS DEAD FOR F SAKE ) AND SHE SAYS…WHAT IS SHE CRYING ABOUT ALREADY…WHEN SHE KNOWS HER MOTHER DOESNT’ KNOW WHERE HER GRANDAUGHTER IS…SHE HOW JELOUS SHE REALLY WAS…OF A BABY…THT PAID WITH HER LIFE CAUSE SHE GOT MORE ATTENTION THEY MAGGOT DID..????
I CANT’ WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND THIS BITCH
OMG, POOR M!!! She’s a victim too & her life has been completely taken away! Holy sheep sh~t, why didn’t someone say something sooner??
No wonder she is so frustrated & angry, her words, after all how dare C make chili on Caylee’s bday while poor M was hiding under her covers in bed.
ARRGH, the new video makes me want to drive to Florida, storm the jail & ram my fist down her stinky slimy mouth & spit in her face!
K, I’ll read back now that I’ve vented. If u haven’t watched the lasted video do so, w/ a drink her hand
Where the he// is my pickles…chsah…xoxoxo
C~A we sure do have a WORLD CLASS DRAMA QUEEN there! Everything, taken to a level of insanity. There isn’t one normal thing I can think about her. Not one.
The queen also calls BOZO her Attorney, not her Lawyer, and Nanny, not babysitter. Such a elegant, sophisticated lady this leech, squatter, liar. I have never seen such delusions…
js - that wasn’t on ng..where you see that…and uhm…HI
NICE TO SEE YOU
BETTY - You got it…with the high class self proclamations…
Hey C~A, well ty, nice to see u too! here’s the link on line
myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8258540&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
Every time I see this evil teeewhat laughing in jail knowing that her child is rotting I wish ever addict, street person, lost person I have ever known in life who lost a child to CPS or their addictions could meet the baby killn bitch in her cell one on one.
Even when I knew I was dealing with people who never would ‘want to get fixed’ when they were in jail they were straight up with remorse for whatever petty shit they had done. Evil bitch teewhat baby killer deserves death. Knows her child is dead by her own hands and she laughs, lies, and eats cheezy poofs off the kindness of strangers.
Can I change my sex and please go commit a violent crime in Florida so I can play the odds of being locked up with this c-hunt? I would love to wring her effin neck…
Atleast she’s not laughing much in this one. There’s no way of knowing but based on her attitude in this vid I think she would have killed someone else if Padilla hadn’t bailed her out. It gave her a break to recoup & have her lies coddled.
She’s so loveable, I mean I can really see why C&G want her back home HAHAHA, they should be sleeping better knowing she’s locked up.
Goldie_Fishy said “(XP) 7 rawks Tex. did not like the Vista RTC. Using the Server 2008 demo with the Vista registry hacks but more stable than Vista RTC. Windows 7 is only running at home It is running on a 1.94 ghz processor with 512mb RAM visual tweaks off. Simply rawk. I have been beta testing MS stuff since the Windows 95 / NT Chicago beta and MS has never put out such a complete and stable Beta ever.”
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Goldie_Fishy and CIT are talking in code again!
Keep an eye on these two!
C~A neither can I wrap my head around this B**ch!
Hey, aren’t we funny, analyzing all this? God help us .. no wonder our heads spin TRYING to figure out THAT demented mind! I wonder if a SHRINK could? Got to HAND IT TO US THO … a lot of heart here on this blog.
When this is over, in 4 years … where do we go next? I didn’t know anything about blogs before this one, (1 month here), but I would think THIS one will last longer than any ever did! Look at the bonding here! We just go back to our lives? What WILL we do? Just thought of something funny speaking of “bonding”. Some politician said “I believe in bondage between parent and child.” BONDAGE????
I was just thinking about something fairly interesting. Suppose M was found INNOCENT and allowed to go free, along with everybody else involved in this case. Their lives would be ruined forever OUTSIDE of jail!
Agreed JR…if LE hadn’t gotten enuff to add it up I think that the ant’s might have been in ‘danger’. I think that might be part of why they won’t turn coats on her…they are scared of what the evil kunt has for them / on them.
If they didn’t know they were already sort of dirty in this I think they would have ratted her out long ago. She has things on all of them and they are scared what she might do if she gets out.
Lulu their lives are shit…except they would have the money to surf the shit if baby killing teeewhat gets off….book deals interviews…$$$$ galore off lies lies lies and BABY KILLING MURDER!!!!!
Lulu (the original) said,in January 15th, 2009 at 9:43 pm “I was just thinking about something fairly interesting. Suppose M was found INNOCENT and allowed to go free”
Bite ur tongue right now Lulu
I usually agree with everything Dr. Bethany Marshall says but tonight (IMO)Padilla had more insight into the newly released Aug jailhouse tapes than Dr Marshall.LOL
Bethany said C&G were courageous in trying to get the truth out of M in the jailhouse visits. (What video was she watching?) Padilla said that C&G were totally mesmerized with M the whole time.
You be the judge… what was your interpretation of these new jailhouse tapes?
Were the Ants looking for the truth or hypnotized by their rotten daughter’s double talk?
Therapist we are talking bout demos of the last microsoft release and the newest one (dominating a newly purchased computer near you soon). No code. I’m a techie by paycheck. I like risking blowing up my computer on test software
ooops not betty…therapist that pebble was fer jooh!!!!
We keep talking about M getting her true justice in the general population of the prison someday. I was just talking about how that possibility would also exist outside of prison. They will never enjoy their money. It will not bring them a single thing that is good.
Betty, to answer your question: “When this is over, in 4 years where do we go next?”
My reply:
Maybe to yell for JUSTICE FOR STACY PETERSON” Hopefully, they will have Drew arrested by then.
Goldie, she just need the sh~t slapped out of her repeatedly until she understands she ain’t special! I think it was in Rick’s ( C’s bro ) emails or when he posted on some site, he said M was always the princess blah blah, got by w/ murder, now literally, it was in comparision to LV. So yea she needs her crown ripped off via her throat. She looks nuts in the vid, more than normal.
Paddy has gotten less colorful now that the walls are closing in. I know he bailed when he figued out the teewhat was a baby killer but as the evidence mounts that the ant’s got something to do about it he keeps making his mouth seem less stupid.
He is a hick Pickles, agreed…but notice how he is starting to get more and more quiet and taking a ‘Told you so’ attitude?
Just my opinion…kick pebbles at me later.
Hi y’all
Maybe the Zenaida from the apartment scenario went like this:
Maybe M was visiting her friends from across the street from Sawgrass, and while parking her car, found some of Zenaida’s documents on the ground (accidently fallen out of Z’s car the day she applied for an apartment)
Maybe the name Zenaida stood out to M and she made the mental connection between Zanny and Zenaida. She saw the names on that document, or personal letter or something like that, and that is also where she got the names of the kids and used them as roomates names.She may have thought the person likely lived close by since she found the papers at that sight, so used it later to choose a place to say she left Caylee, once she decided she was going to blame it on the nanny.
Js…I had to stop at the part she said all i want is my KID back…I have to say this is one of the coldest, self centered videos of her I have seen to date…
NOT ONCE, “WHERE IS MY BABY..WHERE IS SHE MOMMY DADDDY FIND MY CHILD…I CAN’T LIVE WITHOUT HER…WHOLLY FCK!
She is only concerned about being out of the loop and having peeps gather for CAYLEE at the home WITHOUT HER..she is missing out on stuff…
she says..when i get out of here…blah blah…and about how nobody sees things from her perspective and how she is being so frustrated..all i heard about her frustration was that she is in jail..and eveyone else is gathering for caylee…
Oh and grinch…”what’s going on with you’??
and “thanks for “taking the time” to talk with us” and how “you are the boss casey and we are all your employees”????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
i could just spit…choke the life right out of the whole fam…c shows real distress on this video..but grinch DOES NOT…OMG
She is nuts JR…true psychopath. No denying that.
Therapist Wannabe! said,in January 15th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
My husband has only listened to bits & pieces, this is the 1st tape of M he’s heard for more than 5 minutes. He’s in the recliner & keeps yelling better ?’s for C&G to ask then they’re asking.
M is a master manipulator, C&G imo don’t want or need to know the truth. They’re getting the answers by the way she’s reacting, kind of like we are. Everything is about M, good thing she’s still on the earth or the sun wouldn’t come up tomorrow
K P33PZ off to Windows 7 land for a bit. I’ll post from there if all my software goes well. If not I’ll just be pulling my hair out all night.
(Oh wait…I ain’t got none)
CY’ALL
***kicks a pebble at Therapist (who deflects)…knocks to JR (deflects)…hits Pickles…she shoots..she scores!!!!***
C~A “Oh and grinch…”what’s going on with you’??
and “thanks for “taking the time” to talk with us” and how “you are the boss casey and we are all your employees”?
ROFL, my husband raised up out of the chair on that one & said ‘he’s f~ed up’
How bout this new vid though, should C&G just give it up now u think?? How can u paint that anyway but evil knowing now that she was dead?
And what was it 30min’s before she even acknowledged there was a Caylee, went on 4ever about herself.
I’m glad this wasn’t released w/ the others, I like seeing it for the 1st x knowing what I know now.
Goldie_Fishy, I was just trying to make a funny about the code thingamajiggy but it evidently went over like a lead balloon. Sorry!
ARE YOU FLUCKING KIDDING ME CASEY.
The only thing you are frustrated about, is the fact that NO ONE believes YOUR LIES!!! YOU ARE DONE CASEY!!! FINISHED!!! NO MORE!!! No wonder your mother is the way she is, You treat her like a no body out of JEALOUSY , Casey. Since you are so stuck on yourself Casey, Do yourself a favor and make a plea deal. Unless of course, you want to drag your family in the mud some more. You know you killed Caylee, and you did it out of jealousy and because you really are a spiteful BIOTCH!!! Get over yourself Casey and do the right thing.
Therapist Wannabe! said,
in January 15th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Betty, to answer your question: “When this is over, in 4 years where do we go next?”
My reply:
Maybe to yell for JUSTICE FOR STACY PETERSON” Hopefully, they will have Drew arrested by then.
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Don’t get me started here Therapist…OMG…
Gotta remember it is a cold case though. Takes time to build that old shit about his ex up. I only hpe he dies of a painful chicken fried dinner heart attack soon because yeah that one is gonna take time.
Wonder how long before Drew starts writing the baby killing kay-hunt? Surprised it hasn’t already happened. Birds of a feather…
We kewl therapist…I may feel passionate about thinking this baby killing bitch needs to fall down the stairs accidentally quite a few times while in OCSO property…I take the net light. You good peepz
Therapist Wannabe - I was sitting here in OR laughing at your post about the “code”. It was very funny! Not a lead balloon - everywhere.
LOL!
My 2 cents….That was a good one..check her work record..LmaO…
Way to fall into it Goldfish..sorry..still laughing. You guys are too funny. Nice to come home to.
We all a bit funny over a bunch of sad things
***passes flowers, balloons, and candy around the room…release the balloons and kick the chocolates at Pickles fer being to quiet***
Betty, M2C, PAW, C~A, JR and all…night fer now got dumb techie crap to do
Pickles…I just kicked a pebble…ya’ll all play soccer with it til she comes back.
Peeace EV1…good thoughts and good thinks.
Goldie … a good idea about sleeze ball Drew P.
I felt so deeply about this beautiful little one - wanted to get involved to help, if I could.
I tell you, these people that break the law, and/or kill, and who are in the field of law enforcement themselves, or live with people who are in law enforcement, obviously pick up things that we don’t know, and are SLICK and harder to catch! I think!! TEFLON CASEY!
My Stalker’s mother worked in the Police Department. That made it much more difficult to catch him too.Insiders know about procedures, and how things work. They have an edge over us.
Nite for now Goldie & thanks for the candy!
Sheller said,in January 15th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
so glad u posted that, I had to scroll up to see what MTC wrote & Goldie fell into, ROFL, best posts of the day
I just remembered, M is “WRITING” her thoughts in jail. Shall we guess who will be selling them? Maybe he will bring her drawing paper and pencils too. $$$$$$$$
Tomorrow…
Hey y’all
If by drawing pencils and paper…large crayons and crate paper for the child then yes im sure bb will be bringin it in
Hey y’ll…you baby face. Get carded today?
C~A I posted about a tax bill on one of those houses. Found it just by typing in the name and address of the house. Tax bill popped up with another name on it. I didn’t save it or anything. Could try to find it again, but it was a WASP type name, I think .like Smith or Jones.
Torie’s CLUE game was too funny. You have a very creative mind…..
No I didnt ….baby face mcgee
I was thinkin Pickles…with all those macrobiology classes and chemistry…you might even want to become a DNA analyst. That’s what my ‘75 does.
Jrs.farm….they were good. Thanks for lookin back, I’d have hated to miss em.
PAGING..CHSAH….PAGING…CHSAH…
therapini - I thought it was hilarious!
About the shovel. I haven’t thought much about it. I thought the neighbor gave 2 different stories about when she returned it, and I never did understand how long she really had it. But if the dogs hit somewhere in the backyard, then either m would’ve had to have left Caylee in the playhouse, sandbox, or buried her (or possibly buried her clothes), presumably that’s where the shovel would have been used. Or as someone mentioned, possibly she used it to pick her up (though I can think of numerous other household items to use, rather than borrowing a shovel–such as a sheet). What do you think about the shovel?
goldy - Enjoy your 7. More ‘power’ to ya! rofl
I’ve got to go watch that video. PAW–good letter to m.
hey picklet!
Concerned - I thought that guy was about the most honest sounding witness so far. Called in quick, met them at his work to give his first statement, then came in for the official calendar statement. Sounded real truthful, earnest.
***kick…pebble right upside jooh head Pickles***
I’m telling you, I need a new computer.$*@!
Sheller - I agree that he sounded earnest. But didn’t he change his story about how long she had the shovel? I seem to remember him saying m returned it to him, and then he said she returned it to his son, at a different time. I don’t mean to imply anything other than him being mixed up, which means we don’t know which version is correct. In other words, no conspiracy theory bubbling! (or am I mixed up on this????)
Therapist I just installed a beta of Microsoft’s latest and greatest on an 8 year old Dell straight from the factory and it’s running clean…you need a tech not a new PC!!!
therapist– I got a second laptop for Christmas, one that I can easily take back and forth to school (don’t like the desktop in my office bc of ’stupid’ institutional software).
The laptop is the cutest thing! It’s about 5″ x 7,” called a Netbook. Cost $350, and it’s 160 gig. They come in blue, pink, gray, or brown. Of course, the screen is small, but I love it! Can’t beat the price, esp if you mainly use it for emails, getting online, and simple programs such as Word or Excel.
Ugh tex starting to see something I dont like…the task bar sux. They are trying hard for a mac rolling menu but they cant do it on that kernel…gimmie my flooded windows taskbar back please LOL….other than that its been peachy keen thus far.
Therapist Wannabe! I listened to the tape several times. I think sin was trying to guilt her into coming out with it. G was trying to coax her into being in charge. Kilr was trying her best to get them to feel sorry for her and if they would just get her out….she could do more to help. Bleccshshck, gag…then she started to show her true colors, anger, so mad she couldn’t control herself, basically spoiled self centered manipulating self. Thought she was going to come through the glass when Sin asked her “is there anything there?” I think in her head she just can’t tolerate these stupid ignorant bumbling idiots that can’t see how smart and caring she really is. She’s getting a cold, too. boohoo to you kilr. Sickening.
WOAH…did she say that Baez “showed” her an episode of Nancy Grace at the jail?????? Maybe that is why he brings a laptop. Isnt that against the rules?? Still listening…she is a selfish witch!
She is working the dad over pretty good!….making him feel guilty !..cuz mom wont let her talk…LOL!!
Computer Finder is taking up a collection so I can search for a new computer that doesn’t freeze up on me like our Michigan weather.
When it freezes up all I know how to do is swear! So, if I disappear it’s not because you’re not laughing at my jokes.
I agree Sheller..it was manipulative mind against each other. Know who won??? Pshyco baby killing bitch cuz she knew she already had evil gmah beat…baby was dead. No pawns left to play…check mate.
Get this trial over quick and please someone shank this bitch. I will pad your commisarry for life if you do LOL
I never read the shovel owners transcript from the face to face. From the released audio, calendar/timeline with Edwards asking questions I think, He seemed real clear about mowing, coming into take a shower, telling his son (who isn’t allowed to usually open the door…imagine a caring parent with children who mind in that neighborhood?). After shower, he comes out, after a while Casey returned the shovel. He puts in garage as he had already locked the shed. Just what I rememebered…
Only thing he changed was seeing the green truck in their driveway with kilr and whitemale the day before gas can theft. Wife wouldn’t let him say anything to G and sin…stay out of it, you don’t know.
HATE he can do whatever he wants with that laptop / letters / ect in jail…it is all subject to search and seizure rules.
Let him show her NG episodes…maybe it will make her get how much NORMAL PEOPLE totaly hate her and she would be better off dead.
Oh no…bobo would never tell her that…not until after he got in that nasty ass snail trail….
goldy - Well, all I can say is that college writing instructors have had nightmares with the changes in Word. The defaults that students can’t seem to figure out how to change, the fact that a 7 version of Word is incompatible with 97-03, extra spaces between paragraphs, … oh I could go on and on about Word, but I’ll restrain myself.
But I’ve had it since it first came out, and I still don’t like it. Many changes seem to have been made just for the sake of change, and not for sake of improvement. They got rid of many features I used regularly. Just disappeared! My perspective is from ‘user’ standpoint, not techie one.
Did you catch her back to back confusion? I don’t know anything cause I’m in here, I’ve been in here a month. Maybe the next sentence, Baez keeps me completely up todate with everything and I thank him for it. Then, I wasn’t even supposed to do this. (meeting I guess). Can’t keep her stories straight even in a short conversation. About laughed when she said she wasn’t getting special treatment…she ought to be in regular population a day or so.
Tex….
*slings snot* all over Fish!!!
She did say she had read a lot of the comments people were putting out on her. She may have visited here. Now that’s a thought. I hope so. LOL
They were not only reading blogs they were printing them out..and reading them then throwing the print outs away
Tex…(checkUmail)
Sheller, I think M simply wants C&G never to mention Caylee’s name to her again. It aggravates her to think that if it weren’t for Caylee she wouldn’t be in jail. It’s all Caylee’s fault and C&G too for talking about Caylee and making her have to make up stories on the spur of the moment. M double talks on and on about nothing. Nothing M rambles on about even makes sense.
Tex…you never put a beta or test program into a production environment!!!
Hell our parent company overseas was part of why microsoft backed off on the canceling of XP support back in early 08 because the parent co are share holders in netbook companies overseas and vista had enough nightmares let alone the multi lingual support.
If you or someone else let the win anything (including vista) betas or Vista in general into your environment without testing or knowing the failures that were gonna come your bad or your tech guys bad man.
I do get your user standpoint…cuz I was used to being able to find and fix shit a certain way too and Vista pissed me off much like Win98, XP, and yes vista did too by trying to ‘reform’ where things logically were supposed to be. They always do that, they try and keep up with the times and how people navigate and use their systems…they can’t always predict or please everyone all the time. Vista RTC one…they dropped the ball in favor of a bad plan of protecting peoples PC. Seven’s on the way of fixing that.
Fish…your intelligence is showing
*slap joo00h*
Are they code talking?
Therapist…I agree..she wants for nothing more then for them and anyone else for that matter to bring Caylee’s name up to her ever again…..she wants the world including them to forget about her..IF it wasnt for Caylee she wouldnt be in this situation..IF it wasnt for c and g loving Caylee and calling 911 she wouldnt be in this situation..if it wasnt for the car being towed and for Caylee stinking it up she wouldnt be in this situation…if c would of just minded her own business regarding Caylee she wouldnt be in this situation.
No Fish’s intelligence is showing though
!!!
Goodnight guys…too late for me…thanks for taking time to ……………..just kiddin.
Gnite Sheller…talk to joooh l8dr!!!
Posting in stupid mode now Pickles (installing and testing software…kicking big pebbles joo way)
CIT… thanks for your 11:30 pm post. I will check in to it. I didn’t know that I could find something so reasonable.
This one is six years old and on it’s last leg for some reason.
Pickles you are spot on with your description of M.
The only thing I would add is that she couldn’t care less about C&G’s love all she was jealous of was all the money they were spending on Caylee and not on her. She wanted them to spend their money only on her. IMO.. and Bethany Marshall’s too! LOL
Okay… now that I got my computer working everyone else is sleeping.
Well, this gives me time to scroll up and read everything I missed earlier.
Youre right FISHY…she should watch nancy grace.
Someone has to help me with something please….In her interogation with LE from Universal after she lead them there…she told them that she got a call the day before from caylee and all she kept talking about is the book she was reading and then she said “we even have a video of that book she was reading”..she makes it a point..So with that said, is it true that that same book in the video was in one of the crime scene photos?…If so, she threw her away with that book inside the bag, and made sure she mentioned it????? As if the person she was with the day before killed her cuz she KNEW she had that book with her??? Maybe? or do I have that all wrong? someone put me out of my misery about that or validate me please
Hate she is like an evil robot…nothing the baby killin teeewhat makes any sense in the normal frame of mind and how anyone could see the way she acts once she is actually caged (including the ant’s unless they have something to hide) is beyond me.
Thanks Pickles….smarter than I seem fer mah self sometimes I guess.
***showers Pickles in flowers and fergets the pebbles for now***
Thanks Fishy..so you dont think she planted that information to LE knowing she buried the kid with that book? and I am trying to find out if that book WAS in the crime scene photos?
Hi Hateliars, Yesterday on NG a caller asked if the book was found with Caylee The ancwser was no.
Can’t sleep.
We should speak Politically Correct here when we refer to M. Here is how we should refer to her:
She’s not EASY, shes HORIZONTALLY ACESSIBLE.
She has not BEEN AROUND, she is a PREVIOUSLY ENJOYED COMPANION.
She is not a TWO BIT HOOKER, she is a LOW COST PROVIDER.
She does not act like a TOTAL A**, she developed a case of RECTAL-CRANIAL INVERSION.
Nothing about the book in anything I have heard other than speculation HATE.
Truth is we are not gonna hear jack from LE or the prosecution until the trial because they knew they had a case even before this poor baby was found and they have nothing to showboat, distract from, or prove. They aren’t gonna say chit.
It would be nice if they would nail one of the hammy bastids like dummy-dick, Sin, or Leevil for obstruction because it is all over that on all of them like flies to honey…but they have such a good case I think that they are just gonna let the pissants moan all they want and then wish they could ever live a normal life again after making such evil assholes out of themselves.
***kick Pickles…going to sleep red***
I think I’ll try a dull book … maybe that’ll work. ‘nite all
Hear hear betty…raise ur kiddos and influence ur friends to know bettah
Thanks fishy and LSJ!…now I check that one off my list. lol
I think she borrowed shovels from the neighbor on 2 seperate occasions a day or so apart.
The theory about planting the book may still be true, as it would have had to be a different book anyway, because the nanny had supposedly bought her a new book.
“sheller”…gudday from W.A. I live in a little suburb near Perth {the capital of Western Australia} came here in 1956 from Yorkshire England. It is 3:15pm in the arvo {Friday 16th} the temp outside is over 100 degrees {just ducked outside to get the mail…burnt my hand lifting the lid of the mail box}..swap ya for some snow.
Watched the “miracle on the Hudson” early this morning. Kudos to the pilot/crew & rescue teams..its just amazing that all 150 are alive.
Tim and all…
The idea of any of the ant’s on their own planting shit after the last 911 call by sin is absurd. There is no way it could happen.
Not like they didn’t bring it on themselves or not but the media was up their ass from that point. we should thank God for that. Because the media was up their asses they couldn’t move Caylee once they figured out baby murdering wonder snatch’s code.
Again no way it could happen after the fact and if you even think baby killin teewhat had enough emotion to put something sentimental at the dump site then you are backing off on the reality of what a psykunt killr bitch she is.
“sillybutt” I thought your dog analogy was very good.
Watched snivelling/simping/whimpering/whingings jail tape on Greta…IMO she made no sense whatsoever, just kept saying that she couldn’t do anything because her butt was stuck in jail..NEWS FLASH CASEY..invite LE to visit..tell the truth..take a plea & spend the rest of your life in jail {sans parole}.
goldie fishy
Yay!
Windows 7- you must have had success!
Welcome Jill WA…
I’d like to see her baby killing ass in jail sans parole but sick people on the outside are already keeping her in donuts, cheezy poofs, and sketch pads.
She is going to get what she always wanted unless someone shanks her ass. Eternal attention.
Like I said…can I get a sex change and commit a violent offense in Florida please. I’d play the odds to get the chance to throttle this baby killing bitch. I’m not even a criminal…
My only comfort in this is knowing without the DP she will end up in the general population. She will be used like a rag doll by the head beeeyotches and then thrown to the dawgs. Even Dahmer didn’t last two years. This bitch will get shanked fast.
I am “mad as hell!!!” read somewhere that one of the 3 or 4 dickwits who are putting money in her commish a/c comes from Melbourne {a state of Eastern Australia!} If I may I would like to invite this “TWIT” to come on this blog and tell us WHY???…you are giving us Ozzies a bad name! {I begrudged her the 82c roast beef Chrissy dinner…Caylee had nothing!..she DESERVES NOTHING!!!
Like many I am scared “shitless” that Bozo & the rest of his yukky team may get her acquitted {jurors can be stupid sometimes..eg OJ.} However if she were to be released I am sure that someone would do the world a favor..think you know what I mean.. {I would be willing to put money in that persons commish a/c for the rest of their life along with the other person who posted this thought!}
Success in everything but the video driver Tim but it is not a machine up to the beta programs specs anyway. I have everything but Office 2003 installed on it so far but other than video playback (again it is trying to use a generic driver) there is nothing I have to complain about. XP SP 2 was the bomb but this seems to be out performing it without all the pretty shit that everyone expected out of Vista (notice they are pushing performance over pretty this time around). I actually am thinking about trying to do an upgrade from XP3 which gets my video driver to Win 7 and seeing if anything about that changes. Gonna tap a few more resources about a hacked vid driver for Win 7 before I try that though.
Yup jill they are…last I heard she went from $28 to over $300 since the body was found. Sick f**ks anyway.
“Goldie-Fish” .. I thought I had read somewhere that because of the media noteriety she would never be in gen-pop…DP or not?
Hope you are right…if not maybe she could “slip in the shower!”
Buried my only grandchild in {stillborn} in 2006..feel very strongly about this case…{thankfully in 2008 my daughter gave birth {by C-Section} to a 1 month premmie little boy..one day after her 39th birthday..now he is 9 months old but suffering from petit-mal-seizures…this little boy has never tasted commercial baby food..my daughter cooks EVERY meal for him!…grrrr!!!! did Casey ever cook food for Caylee…hmmmm!!! don’t think so..all she cared about was stealing money to buy drugs…you have nooooo idea how much I hate her!!!
Sadly Jill that is a possibility. Corrections facilities are run by private companies much like nabisco sells oreoes now and I don’t know how or who runs Florida’s any more and the companies running the jails decide how they are housed.
She should be in GP and her charges reflect GP…in most cases / companies running jails her charges would put her there. Could actually be part of why the prosecution isn’t going after her harder than they are I might think and yeah I have some experience in this.
hate to admit it but I think LE actually has turned the dawgs out on this one and they are doing everything they can to make sure she has no corner to back into to make sure she suffers. If she gets convicted of murder one….no parole…appeal or not she is in GP. If she got a DP conviction it would be automatic appeal and protective custody.
I think LE had enough of her games and all the attention it was drawing away from their day to day duties. They let her lies hang herself and made sure she would suffer all she could. DP would just mean she would die about 10 years before I did of natural causes. They knew where they were putting the spoiled rotten bitch and God help her among the crackheads who lost kids to CPS in general population.
***throws a shooter marble at Pickles cuz her big mouth keeps this blog alive and she left us***
Night peeps….love all the talk…but it’s all about tat poor baby. Never ferget that.
***marble upside ur head Pickles***
C-A & Annie & all:
Regarding scaredmonkeys theory of 4701 & 4709 Hopesprings.
I researched this, and the tax records show Peter Gonzales did own 4701 Hopesprings and sold it 5/5/08 to Fredesvinda.
However, tax records for 4709 Hopesprings show owner to be Alice & Dennis Dilley.
Scaredmonkeys forum got the Zenaida name for 4709 Hopesprings on whitepages.com. Name is Zenaida Almodovar. No phone number for her; only the address. She could be renting the property.
The possible problem with this theory is that there’s no way to confirm this Zenaida because anyone can add a listing to whitepages.com. It doesn’t come from the phone company, and indeed there is no phone number for this Z.
Soooo, at this point, it is still an interesting theory, but like so many other things in this case, no confirmation, except for the Gonzales. (spelled with “s” on tax records)
Morning all
CIT - Thats just it, nothing has to be real in this case…nobody, no name, no place etc…that is why I give LE so much credit for what looks to be such an incredible case against maggot..they started out behind the eight ball with all the lies and scattered bits of the truth if any at all…and not only do they have the suspect lying evertime she opens her mouth, the whole damn family is covering up for her…they have (le) not support to truth within the family…that’s got to be hard to build a case on that..
Anna and Lil ~ you guys here…
Morning peeps..
Morning C-A, I’m here.. you here??haha.. duhhh…
I was reading all the posts I missed yesterday, WOW, there was alot of them! C-A, I agree with your post 6:16 this AM, I also give big KUDOS
to LE.. I imagine trying to sort out the huge mess has to be exhausting..
all the lies, from the whole family.
To be honest, I have no idea in ref to street names etc.. all I am certain about is m lied about everything, and she killed her baby and threw her away in a garbage bag.. in the swamp. That is enough for me..
C-A.. how are you today?? TGIF!
Good research Concerned in Tex.at 2:44 a.m. Since you seem about obssessive compulsive over the details as I do, do you remember when someone said lots of these names were mixtures of her highschool classmates? Was Zaneida one of the names and Gonzales another classmates or am I conjuring that up from several months ago. Just sort of half remember it being mentioned but I don’t know by who. Thanks.
gudday ausie…Was an awesome landing. Great that everyone was safe and this guy walked the plane a couple times to make sure everyone was out.
Betty 1, Your politically correct verbage was OUTSTANDING. LOL Creative smart-ssing! I loved it. Standing ovation!!
OMG… wasn’t that the most amazing thing?? That pilot and his crew definitely had Gods hand helping them…
morning all…m was a party girl, her parents untill now had no money, whats the odd of someone going thru all sorts of trouble to set her up..planting the hair in the trunk, dumping the baby in her former hang out spot she was a no one b4 all this all the excuses and lies, on the new vidio shes upset cuz they didnt give her 24 hrs b4 they locked her up…hello she had 31 days if she hhad called within the first 1/2 hr maybee then shed have got 24 hrs to help…and this controll thing why do they always say shes to one in controll funny how she gets upset when being questioned by c or lv guess the questions are asked b4 she can think of lies to go with..the only confusing part is the property names, but you figure she lived there her whole life she had to have known and if she hung out there good chance she did.
no ones just gonna take and kill you child and plant all that evedince for no reason, i guess thats what im trying to say.
I agree Anna. I was just picturing the PI, Casey’s call with the psychic. I think I see the psychic with two phones..one to the ants up to one ear and one to the PI on the other ear. She is the relay…talks to the PI…talks to the ants…talks to the PI…talks to the ants. A low-rent conference call focusing the PI where to look. Surely they will check all phone records. Probably why it took so long.lol
I don’t know if this has already been mentioned before. But, I remember (at the beginning of this case) when LE was releasing tapes and information that could be detrimental to Casey’s case…Baez stated something to the effect that he will be making his own “moves” and that he wasn’t going to be talking about any of that yet.
Interesting…considering all thats been going on since Caylee’s body was found. Perhaps all thats going on are simply his “moves”.
May Jose Baez burn in hell for all eternity.
Okay lets bite into the theory that this whole time the grandparents believed M. Even then wouldn’t they be ABSOLUTELY livid at her for waiting a month and still blame this on her for being very irresponsible, for not calling the police?
So I STILL think they knew and know she is guilty and trying to save her butt.
didnt the first report about the phycic say she was holding one of caylees teddy bears while talking to the pi??? howd she get that im sure they just fedex it right??? not!!
lol I think this psychic is full of hoooey! UNLESS she was channeling Leevil at the time hahaha…
m waited a month b4 le found out..and they are mad cuz they didnt give her time to help or put out a amber alert..these people are redicoulus they expect e1 to believe this fantastic story..its to immposible to believe, there was no randsom ever asked and supposidly this zanni loved caylee so much had all clothes and toys had bought ething for her and then to just kill her after that, right!
the story about when m borrowed the shovel to remove bamboo in the yard so caylee wouldnt trip over it..if m was so concerned about caylee tripping over the bamboo wouldnt she have brought her with to borrow the shovel?? instead of leaving her in the yard with the bamboo? and if caylee was taking a nap at the time why the urgency to remove the bamboo then, it could have waited for corg to get home to get the key to the shed!
anyone read my post during NG last night, we heard that the search warrant that was obtained for the last search of the ants house which also was triggered by what was found at the scene, will be released next week…
We are gonna find out what was at the scene and why LE went back to the house.
Another long weekend ahead I guess…ugh!
Hey lil - YES TGIF - I am good and you?
Still freezing cold here..
i hope when the trial starts pros asks her the big question..what were you doing when you were pretending to go to work for 2 yrs…no one has asked her that yet..that would have been one of my first questions!
hi c~a my morning bud
so glad for more news cant wait!!!! yes still artic around here another late start for school its -17 wind chills are colder tho 
G’morning!!!
*TAP*TAP*TAP*…..*SLAP*SLAP*
Anna

hey pickly poo!!
pic~your up early
Morning Anna Pickles!!
How is e1 today???
C-A.. all good today…
cold here too.. -4 or so, schools closed because it is sooo cold!!
Us midwesterners(eeks) can’t take the cold weather.. kind of a
bunch of wussies!!!
Hey, Hi sheller & Shan..
good..how you feelin lilred??? have you heard about the new light bulbs how they can have a negitive effect on people with ra and some other physical alments??? just heard that a few days ago…i dont have thoes new bulbs cuz they contain mercury and if broken you have to take certain percautions to clean up?
Pickles, I was reading that you want to be a nurse. Great profession. I have been a Cardiac RN for the last 4 years (working at Florida Hospital in downtown Orlando). Nursing school was a challenge…but definitely worth my time. Best of luck to you. You can do anything you set your mind to do, remember that and don’t let anyone convince you otherwise.
Speaking of cold…Orlando is freezing this A.M. Maybe not literally…but I think it is in the 40’s.
yooo hooo pickles!!! whatd you go back to sleep??? gonna get a snowball…..
OH no im here….reading email
NO no sno balls…had enuff sno thanks..
Floridian…thank you…I am xcited…it starts in the summer…and I can go as far as I choose..I can stop at cna or go on futher…so….its going to be an adventure
Morning Lilred!!
pic youl be a good nurse..your laugh alone will brighten someones day
whats with all teachers, coaches having sex with students??? almost eday the sad thing is after the abuse by the teacher/coach they have to deal with the people who dont believe it happened and take abuse from them…no wonder kids are reluctant to tell…these adults should know better!!!
Forest Grove,OR is a warm 34* right now…but is going to get sunny here in a bit…and well though it isnt going to warm up like I would prefer it will be sunshine and blue skies so its tolerable…love the sun…no matter what form it comes in…soon I will don my web feet..cus its going to be the rain season here soon…BLAHHH…green grass….is all its good for…oh and the Salmon mmmm mmm mm salmon…yummie
Yah Anna
:) The school system in some places is very grim…I hate reading the news..even here in ORegon..they are really grim…its like do they do background checks…for cripes sakes…They need to clean it up!!!
My plan is to go CRNA (Nurse anesthetist), but that is on hold until my wife can go back to work…our daughter is still real young (and we don’t trust day care…at all).
Great profession though. There will always be a need for nurses, and there is great job satisfaction (if helping people makes you happy).
Just remember that some nursing instructors like to discourage you. I was told that I wouldn’t be able to work full time and make it through school. Not working wasn’t an option, and I got A’s and B’s throughout the program. Proof that you can do anything you set your mind to do.
Again, best of luck.
good morning peeps
Yah Floridian…there are tons of ppl in life always saying the negative to draw away from the truth..I agree…I aint gonna let no teacher get me down…nope…
I dont trust day care either….thats why I am starting in Summer…my little bro is the best sitter around..woot…go little bro!!
XOXOXOXO…do you work today
HEy there is a great article on here the front page unless its in archives now..about MEAN WOMAN AT WORK..did you read it?
Tell me jooh got the day off!! Just make my day…cmon now…say it…
it’s 1 here
blah no i odn’t have the day off … BUT.. today is my new short day 3-8 so short 5 hours.. now yesterday i don’t even wanna talk abou that day LOL
was mighty cold and it was a 9 hour day
I don’t even bother coming on when I get home too tired…
I’m watching my girl sit here and put diapers on her baby alive doll.. so adorable
these are the things that bring sunshine into my day
as far as the case goes.. wow charges for leevil?? other than that the tapes they showed I am bored with , i can’t even stomach looking at her ugly face or hearing he whine, or lie to her mom and dad…
I’ll go back and read it pickles cause I can oh so relate to that one lol
I am hearing that Lee may get immunity. Apparently the State wants to subpeona him. I don’t care what happens to anyone else involved, just as long as Casey gets her lethal overdose of potassium.
I hope they charge that donk..I read he might get criminal immunity in Xchange for his testimony to help convict the monster twit..
Yes I aint watchng the tapes at all…she has no care or concern for Caylee only herself and well its BORING…she is a loser…run of the mill skank I hate her..she only cares for herself and her freedom..I saw a pic of her walkng down the jail hall the other day in her blues and chains…boy she looks happy…NOT..she knows she’s screwed…she cant truelly think that bb and the losers on her team are going to set her free..she cant actually believe that…if so she is honestly the most ignorant woman alive.
Has anyone put more $$cheese$$ on her books yet..she may need a twinkie or cocoa butter
And Baez burns in hell for all eternity.
BTW, thats a rug he wears on his head, right?
Yah….thats what I have been thinking too..but you know Id like to see the whole lot of them go down..but if they all get immunity in Xchange for helping convict her then hey…they have to live with themselves knowing that they abandoned Caylee let that monster kill her…jah
I hope she gets a lethal injection of woop a$$ in the joint.
They have added a Forensic Anthropologist to the defense team
No that aint no rug…He is hispanic he gots a great head of hair….
The Casey Anthony defense team has added a noted forensic anthropologist to their list of experts and he will be reviewing reports on the evidence of skeletal remains found in a wooded area of Orlando
i know how you feel about daycare i was lucky to have had the ones i had only had 1 bad one and my child went there 4 x when my daughter had a fit about going she never went back…come to find out the lady lost her linces my daughter went there 4x only for a few hr till her dad got home luckly for me nothing really major happened…and i go inspect and interview them b4 she goes…family is always best!
I saw those tapes…that biotch is so manipulative. I don’t know how her family doesn’t see it. And if they do see it, I don’t know how it doesn’t piss them off. If that was my sister, I would easily sell her down the river…easily.
That hairline looks weird.
I am hispanic also…and I have never seen a hairline that looks like that.
Oh, and hispanics go bald too.
Anna….yah…I prefer family too
Floridian they see it..they are cut from the same cloth as her..they have led double lifes and broken the law…they have broken the law many times through out this whole mess….they see it..they are looking at a mirrored image when face to face with her..she is them - they are her…too bad they are sending her up the river…well for her anyways
not all daycares are bad.. although i cringe at hearing the stories… mine is awesome, just awesome.. always doing it the right way, training, weeding out bad… i can’t say I have any complaints and that was a HUGE worry for me.. i got lucky.. its hard not seeing her all day tho
i feel at times I am missing so much , but they keep me infomred of her progress… and the best part my girl loves all the ladies…the last story i heard about the tying to chairs, did make me go back into my own and look for the cameras tho lol
with mine theres just too many women watching and too small so that noone could get away with anything without being seen…
so i am lucky..although.. now shes on the pre-school side soshe loves it there more…
Anna..
Still feel like shiot!!! Had a bad night, sucks sleeping in a recliner.. oh well.. I go back to Drs in two weeks, hopefully he can get me in better
shape. All I do is sit, eat and type all day. Just ask my butt… it is getting
huge!!! Thanks for asking…
I agree with your statements, everything…Boy, I hate the weekends, seems like there is never any news.
Pickles.. you are up early!
the thing with immunity g&lv might be honest but c…she will lie lie lie i for 1 min wouldnt give her immunity…if they do and she still lies can they still charge her for lying??? maybee give her the rope to hang herself!!!!
Floridian…oh..sorry….Hispanics that I know..have rockin hair…long and thick…balding not so many
He does have a weird hairline
Now I have to image google it…
Lilred…I am always up this early…but to early to get ready for school so..jah…boy is still sleeping
OK Floridian that is a front male patter baldness on bb…he is balding from the front back..that is a weird hair line..kind of spooky…blahh
No need to say sorry.
All I am saying is that it looks weird.
I hate that guy. Such a slime ball. I hope he gets what is coming to him.
lil are you gonna get a special bed??? are you waiting for it you know thoes egg like cusions help with sleep pain?
I think she might lie unless they threaten her with real charges..once given immunity she cannot lie they can charge her with obstruction if she lies after given immunity..she can get into major trouble if she dont cooperate
the last day care she was in, was a home type daycare, and I yanked her out of there, because they would not give my daughter, a brownie…:) ( she was age 18 months then)… and she would not eat their food, or their menu, so they had a party for one of the kids, and they singled her out and didn’t let her have one… i had tears in my eyes, as I bundled her up, got her home and by monday found this new one
and boy did i tell them off too..
there was other things, they got mad cause she would not eat what they offered, then when i would get there they would say mom what are we gonna do about this? like what could I do?
yah the brownie story still hurts, picturing her standing there while all the others got a brownie and she didn’t.. i could cry right now about it again
His hair line is weird…like bozo the clown look….yah thats why they call him bozo huh?>
Fluck that place XOX..you want I should bust a hip, twist a thumb…just let me know..I hate when ppl ostrasize children like that…just cant stand it….Gosh just reading that is upsetting…specially a sweety like your girl
If he is given this immunity,” defense attorney Hugo Rodriguez told CNN’s Nancy Grace, “He has to take the stand in the murder trial. He cannot plead the Fifth. He has to get up there, tell his story, tell exactly what he knows. If Casey did give him inside information, he has to spill it all on the stand during that murder trial.”
Make no mistake, says Judge Jeanine Pirro, “Lee has information they need or they wouldn’t want him to be subpoenaed in the first place
In other Casey Anthony news, Roy Kronk is very appreciative to Mark NeJame, the Anthonys’ former lawyer, for his generous gift of $5,000. Apparently, Mr. NeJame received $5,000 for his earlier involvement in the case and has decided that since Roy did find Caylee, the money should appropriately go to him
THe little
emoticon on here looks so sad
Prolly a rug Pickles LOL
lmao pickles you cannot believe how many moms I told that too got SOOO mad about the brownie story LOL I knew you and all moms in here would too…
yah my girl thats her like favorite thing, brownies, she gets them whenever she wants.. LOL
yah they had a strict rigid thing going on there, and we all know children eat, sleep and do stuff different… they ran a clean home but their attitude SUCKED…
i guess i have no comments on the case its waning right now. other than wanting to know about leevil and charges, or immunity… as far as M goes shes just a killer sittin there waiting to be tried and hung…and away she’ll go….
Theres Fish!!! I was a tappng earlier…and by the way you ever get chocolates in muh hair again and yew are toast!!!
xoxo~the brownie
how could they do that!!! 18 mo lots of kida are picky..but most will eat kid food pb&j most fruits that was just plain mean…my neice had a teacher who singled her out one of the parents was talking to her mom and told her how her child felt sorry for my neice thats how we found out!!! some people are so mean!!
XOX…my kids are way picky my boy is going on 8 and hates mac and cheese…my daughter hardly eats a bite ever..kids are that way..and the fact they couldnt accomodate her shows just how sh~~Y they are.
that lady last night on NG who called said she heard M say in the interrogation “however it happened” and that lady was correct she did say that…but i think thats when she added the line ” I will do whatever i have to do, i will lie, steal etc to find my daughter”…
I would never put chocolates in ur hair Pickles…I like rechair
*red hair
Did you see c’s face when killr said she would do whatever it takes “lie,steal,ect..to find Caylee” c looked pissed she said that..like she hadnt all ready stolen enough…
when I found the new daycare I told them the prior stories, and said look if she doesnt eat nothing but a dam brownie ALL day long I don’t care!…lol.. give it to her :).. you don’t have a kids birthday party and make a child stand there punished… ugh…
they understood and here they have a rigid food program too, luckily my girl has developed better habits of eating, altho I often want to take up stock in the pop-tart company
Naww…when you threw chocolates at me fur not being round last night…thats all
and its pumpkin orange…not so red…
XOX….its amazing how ppl will not comprimise for a child..for cripes sakes…give me a break…and ostrisizing a child during a bday party because of there eating habits shouldnt go unpunished I hope you reported them to the BBB or something appropriate. Cus thats messed up fluckers
lol.. you guys are a hoot.. I’m a redhead too, but not pumkin orange.. more like strawberry blonde (tinged with shades of grey)
i sit in my car and pluck them where i can see them better
***passes flowers, balloons, and candy around the room…release the balloons and kick the chocolates at Pickles fer being to quiet***
Sorry you kicked the chocolates at muh
most the x if you make food kid friendly…cut it small take crust off just make it fon they will eat..at least something im with you id rather have my child eat a brownie that nothing at least they are eating something…
cant kick the chocolates…gotta eat them……yummmmmm….
at that time i had FIA help ( assitance with paying my daycare so yes I did tell on the lady to the FIA office).. about other stuff…
they were awful 2 sisters running the place, like i said clean and orderly, but they just didnt like a child messing up their routine, and then when i got there they would dog me for it… it was awful… thankfully shes been at this one now and not one complaint since.. and i am picky..lol… they are great to about adding her on when my work does a schedule change etc. alot won’t allow them to be added on once a schedule gets made… i love this one their awesome, i credit them for helping in her eating habits she has now learned to sit at the table and if she won’t eat what they have, she still has to sit there ( and they will give her what I provide in her lunchbga) so i like their methods, they say try at first tohaev what were having if she holds out, they’ll give in lol
Yah chocolate abuser…what the heck
And yes kids like fun food..thats for sure..I have a miniature gingerbread man cookie cutter…the kids love to get there food shaped like that…
‘Morning … gals and guys.
What is happening to us? Some of you were up and writing at 2:30AM?? Not even a week-end either.
Picks is up around 6:20AM, and me too! It is really getting to us? Yes.
XOX…everyone tells me its strawberry blonde and red but alls I see is orange…all day long….it sticks out like a sore thumb..waaay bad…and its like this stripper curly wavy like from the 80’s butt rock videos…you know the woman with the wild wavy curly hair…ahahahaa…go 80’s
Betty…thats what time all ORegonians rise..you are morphing…wait till you gro web feet…muahahahahaha….
Naw my girl gets me up early everyday…
my youngest g/son wont sit at the table at home runs around goes takes a bite drives me crazy, but here he sits at the table and eats…hes so good here, so darn cute. if theres something i make and they just cant stand it i wont make them eat it, make them try 1 bite and if still no well its ok..kids will be kids and when they are hungry they eat!
LMAO pickles LMAO omg your funny… my hair used to be so pretty age has changed the lively bright color, I’m about to dye it for the first time in my life, to brighten up the color,… my girl doesnt have true red its like blonde/brown red whatever its a beautiful shade of mixed..lol in pictures you think red in person it doesn’t looke red to me.. funny. she also has blue eyes?? me and her father had GREEN go figure… pickles in the 80’s I used to use the curling iron wand and make big ole banana curls LOL.. and i still love the old bi-level… maybe that will come back some day
Why don’t you play “little piggy” with your children at mealtime like the mom did on “The Christmas Story”. That was the funniest thing I’ve ever seen.
yah anna that daycare worried me so much I took her like 4 times to the doctor, the doctor told me if shes 4 or 5 years old and still not eating healthy, we’ll worry until then she gets all she needs from her milk alone… ( my girl loves ,milk and water).. no juice LOL.. funny…she has been super healthy and you do wonder whats shes going on> for fuel?
i try new things but alot goes to waste… she’ll say no thank you mommy at least shes polite
now anything pasta she’ll gobble up…
she loves spaghetti so i’ll take lasagna smash it all up sprinkle cheese and tell her its spaghetti lol
Shan said,
in January 16th, 2009 at 8:05 am
lol I think this psychic is full of hoooey! UNLESS she was channeling Leevil at the time hahaha…
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Jah Jah Jah Shan…I did a domain lookup on the ‘psychics’ website…I know it’s just coincidink but it’s odd…it was registered on the day they think little Caylee was killed.
Tele-pathetic…
CAPY omg isn’t that the funniest movie ever? omg i used to own that movie don’t know what happened to it..
Capy!!!!
Der yew be!!!
I love that movie to…
Pickles…LOL… he does have some freaky hair.. it looks like he tapes it down or something. hmmm… chocolate in your hair?? better than gum in your hair!
Anna.. no, I am still sleeping in the recliner.. I am hoping(praying more like it) that eventually I can go back to my own bed.. depending when
the Drs get the meds working right. You know how that is… I do take
vicoden and some other pain reliever.. so I sleep alot sitting in my chair,
feel asleep yesterday with half a payday candybar in my mouth….yuck..
talk about getting stuff stuck in your hair!!! I am a big frigging mess!!
Red…his hair is creepy now that Floridian pointed it out….way slick…slimy…blahh
Lilred…you fell asleep with a candybar in your mouth…?
Lilred….falling asleep with a candybar in the mouth sounds like a stoner move!!!
lol
DR. Pickles.. paging Dr. Pickles…
Pickles, I did not know you were becoming a nurse??? Thats cool..
Yah….sure am….in the summer the classes start..so keeping muh fingrs crossed…wooohoo
be bak
C~A 8:12 - Yes I did see your post about the release of info on the search warrant of the home due to what they found at the scene.
That is BIG news. We’ve all been speculating, maybe we’ll know now. Someone mentioned that the vacuum might contain something (sweeps from trunk). Hopefully we’ll find out all!
Dude if they didnt clean out the vacuum after they cleand the trunk with it…yuck…thats sick…
Finally felt strong enough to stomach watching the latest Murdering Monster Maggot video jail talk.
Still made me sick. She’s still a lying, self-centered biotch. Her mother knows it (head down on table most of the time).
M says she’s out of the loop, doesn’t know anything in the jail. Then says Jose/attorney keep her fully informed. Including showing her Nancy Grace! Now we know what the laptop was for!
AND someone sent her copies of blogs. Hope one of them was ours!!! We sure weren’t saying anything nice about her back in August.
Then she says she chose her Dad to speak with because Leevil would “interrogate” her and C would talk too much. I wonder what the real reason is? I expect that she thinks that she may still be able to pull the wool over G’s eyes (dumbest of the lot of them) but can’t fool Leevil and C anymore.
The part I loved is how she emphasized that she has NO CONTROL! That’s the real problem Not only does she have no control over anything about her life IN JAIL but she has NO CONTROL over anything outside - like the investigation, her parents etc. She thinks she could “spin” things her way if she was home had the internet etc to help her. My a$$$.
And look what she did when she did get bailed out. Just strutted to and from BB’s office. Slut of the month every month. WORST MOTHER of EVERY YEAR!!!!! Certainly of 2008.
Slut of the month…thats awesome…
Morning Mytwocents.
Of course she only talks to g he calls her gorgeous and beautiful all the time…
Oh, and obviously C and G still think that Caylee could be found. But M knows that won’t happen so she’s already talking about the trial! (skips right over the “found” part and gets mad at her parents for asking about anything that could help find her)LOL!
spagetti & brownies yummm……do you ever make pumlin bars??? they have alot of good stuff in them along with the sugar..so they eat a sweet still get something healthy to!
I noticed recently that quite a few of us are trying to really wrap our heads around this whole thing … and we lay it all out. Wonder if our brains really can’t take this insanity, and pain over little Caylee. We are trying to reduce these crazy tales of M’s - and pare everything down to the basics. Survival technique for our minds, maybe. I will try - too.
Family, G,C and Lee. Then comes along THEIR baby, M. She seems to rule the roost - their BABY! She enjoys that for 19 years or so, running the Show, and lives a very coddled,incredibly spoiled life! Years later along comes Caylee. Caylee, who is the FIRST Grandchild - sweet, beautiful, very BRIGHT,good, wonderful! Many qualities, as well as the “position” she holds. NOT at all like her semi-retarded mother. (She has a half decent vocabulary/and”lingo” (in their little world), but doesn’t know HOW to THINK!) So Caylee replaces her, becomes the HUGE **STAR** of that family, as she should have been. Wonderful baby! Removes M from her pedestal/position, not to mention Caylee’s getting IN THE WAY of m’s insatiable sex life.(I am beginning to think that’s ALL there is to her!) So two *HUGE* serious strikes against poor Caylee, so far. AND Caylee costs money. That ate into C’s slush fund for M.She was supporting 4. G worked - sometiimes? Three strikes against poor innocent Caylee.
Bottom line is Caylee was IN THE WAY everywhere M turned! Caylee couldn’t win for losing. C should have known better and gotten her very sick daughter to a Psychiatrist. I forgot, denial, denial, denial. Cindy Denial Anthony.
About Jessie. He thought she was “different” then. They are NOT different. Move in and out of “roles” I think, whatever the situation calls for - to BENEFIT them, of course. ONLY THEM, ALWAYS THEM! ALWAYS THEM! Even to the point of MURDER! Casey Marie Anthony - the BAD seed!
Daycare - I found a lovely Victorian home in a nice section of San Francisco with a clean environment, lots of staff, looked great. Put my middle child in it at the age of 2 in the 1980’s. Came in one day to pick her up, went into the kitchen for some odd reason, and saw a caregiver emptying a potty of urine into the kitchen sink. Pulled her out right away. Some things you never know about except accidentally.
Ive never heard of pumlin bars….sounds interesting..
OF course she got mad when they want to discuss finding Caylee…she workd so hard to hide her..pitched her into a hole from the side of the road.
Pickles, I am a RN and would be glad to discuss the good bad ugly aspects of the field with you any time.
Lulu…yuck in the kitchen sink…blahh
Things taken from the home:
Vacuum for trunk evidence.
Shoes for soil / foliage evidence on the drop site.
Trash bags for matching the machine imprints of tear lines / chemical make up.
Nearly everything out of wunder-snatches room.
One sample of each and every perscription found in the home.
Anything placed in an area that seemed out of the ordinary (aka hidden).
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They were trying to find a direct link that would implicate the Ant’s in something, not reinforcing their case. About a week and a half later they made it clear that the searches turned up nothing new on the Ant’s but that it instead re-enforced the fact that psykunt baby killer was a baby killer and acted alone.
Now that I have written that I think I am going to give up on the idea of them ever arresting the Ant’s unless something new comes along.
Thank you Lulu!!!
Mornin Pickles!
I am also disgusted hearing that more people are putting more money into her commissary account. Who does that? Really?
The only consolation I can find is to remember that that is the only thing she can receive - hopefully for the rest of her life. No flowers, no gifts, no dates, jewelry, movies etc. Her “shopping” will be limited to the commissary inventory wherever she goes. No hoodies or hot pants or “teddies” or other fancy underwear or pretty dresses or shoes. Enjoy those pop tarts! And sneakers! While you can! The women’s state pen may not even allow them!
Goldie, liked your explanation of the possibly deliberate nature of the prosecution in building their case to the end result of M being placed in the general population of the prison system even if she appeals. I wonder why she can’t be there now? I liked the picture you painted of letting M talk enough to let her own words convict her. As for sick people putting $ into her commissary account, perhaps that is also something that will help the cause of her becoming more unattractive (fat) and more disliked by regular inmates.
Regular inmates hate her im sure…the woman in there are all torn from there children by there own accounts and when they are in jail and clean thats when they truelly miss there kids…and the fact she killed her precious beautiful child with no remorse..and they see her day in and day out feeling nothing im sure chaps there behinds.
Betty’s post January 16th, 2009 at 10:13 am: great thinking, good analysis. M still guilty.
Yah good post Betty that must of taken forever to write..I cant type that much
Pickles it more than chaps their behinds. Remember I have a jailbird friend here. Even in good ol Tejas there are some women who would love to have a conversation with the baby killin bitch. It is a very lively topic in their pod.
She won’t last three years in GP. Part of why I’m glad they aren’t going after the DP. If they did she would still get protective custody and an automatic appeal.
Caylee was in the way from conception..she hated Caylee for all she represented …Caylee ment settling down leaving the sex and the city life behind the parties the drinks the drugs the life style that FLorida has to offer young attractive ppl who want to have a good time….Caylee was the opposite of that..I think killr was paranoid 24/7 that Caylee was ruining her life her chances at schlobbing knobb and hoe’ng down…she hated and resented Caylee for what Caylee was taking from her…she hated Caylee because everyone loved Caylee and wanted her around…when she didnt..she hated Caylee for being there…for stealing her spot light…
Yah Fish..I gaurantee they are all drawing straws waiting for her arrival….in the pen
My2cents,
I caught that, too, that M mentioned “at the trial”…..very interesting.
Hi, Lulu- What you said about M’s commissary account ultimately being something that other inmates are jealous of - you bet! And I’ll bet that she will have to buy stuff for a lot of her fellow inmates whether she wants to or NOT!
So she may not even be able to spend all her blood money on herself. She may have to use it for “protection.”
Also, I believe she’s in “protective” custody because she is “innocent until proven guilty.”
I guess. I don’t know because I don’t think every accused murderer gets that treatment. Is this Florida law or special to this case?
Does anyone know?
XOXOXO GOOD for you, removing your baby! BRAVO! If they kept that up, they could hurt her self image. Day Care’s should do more than change diapers, and feed. HA! Feed. Poor little one. I think they understand more than we think they do. Did you tell her they were not nice and wrong - and that’s why you removed her from there? GADS can you tell I am a Grandmother? Me thinks so.
Nurse Pickels, thanks for all you do here for us.
I am learning thanks to Jan and Concerned, how to follow the white rabbit. I didn’t SEE way up top, the link with the new number. A few ways to do it.
Kids will sometimes eat something at other people’s homes that they won’t eat at their own home because it looks different in its presentation. Case in point: raw broccoli florets arranged on a colorful dish with a ranch dip in a little bowl on a coffee table. This to a child is different than the same thing on the usual plate they see at home on the usual table where they eat at home. Just change the “marketing” of the healthy food and see if it interests them.
XOXOXO your 9:10 post
Awwww that is so sad and sooooo wrong. That makes me cry hearing about it. That is just plain wrong. She is way too little to understand
behavior and consequences.. man, I would have been pissed.
I don’t blame you one bit for complaining..
Poor little baby… I am so glad you changed day cares. You did the right thing.
Goldie - Thank you for your insight into some female inmates’ opinions of M. I was a little worried because I’ve never heard of a mother who killed her child ever being killed in jail (like Dahmer for example).
The child killers I know of are still in jail, have pen pals, have “relationships” with other inmates, and one famous one (name escapes me at the moment) may even get a new trial.
But perhaps experienced inmates know how to make M truly miserable short of actually killing her?
Pickles.. cool beans
Lil,
I can remember things from over 50 years ago. I was at girl scout camp and my hamburger flipped into the dirt and they wouldn’t give me another one.
I wonder about this: I have heard that inmates in prison have internet access and computer privileges. That is why they can run web scams from jail. If that is true, then why can’t M have those privileges now?
Pickles… yup, falling asleep while eating does sound like a stoner move!!! I did take my meds and I guess it dozzzed me out.. not cool!
(plus I almost choked to death..haha)
Lulu …county jail is considered maximum security..no net access for county inmates
Okie doke time to get ready to walk muh boy to school…
BBIAB…
Tori… that is just wrong too!!! I would have told my mom.. and she would have bitched up a storm. I hope someone stuck up for you??
All you gals with little ones - God bless and protect you and them! I don’t know what I’d do if I had to deal with daycare these days.
You should see me when I have to leave my dogs and cats! It’s a FEDERAL CASE! I have caregivers who back up and check up on the caregivers and others who back up and check up on them!! I call EVERY DAY! People think I’m nuts. I don’t care. I’d take even MORE care of an equally helpless and innocent young child and God help anyone who treats them poorly. I took the same kind of care of my elderly mother! Oh, God! The part-time “Caregivers” we ran into - and she was living with us! Some were truly ANGELS!!! I could swear God personally touched them with kindness, gentleness and patience. (Like the nurses that Pickles and Shan will be). But the others? In short the result was almost the equivalent of being thrown out of the house by the seat of their pants.
NO ONE treats my loved ones poorly. NO ONE!
I can’t imagine how enraged I would be if I found a caregiver banned my little one from a b-day party like that. That “caregiver” would have had a brownie or cupcake stuck in every oriface before I was finished with her. Who the heck are these mean stupid people?
Thanks Lulu and Picks. When you are retired, you will have time too!
I am wondering, Lulu, Pickels, all young mothers who work if it wouldn’t be best to hire someone in your home - maybe bring in another baby or two, share the cost. **AND HIDE SURVEILANCE CAMERAS really well, in different rooms where they would be? Can’t ever know what goes on when you are not there unless you do?? They (NUTS) are out there, as well as lazy people. I think the people they hire too, get such low pay, they keep leaving - changing. Not good for the children either.
If you do that, maybe put a lock on your bedroom door, one that uses a key in the hallway, lever on the bedroom side, and put all your valuables, checks, important things in there when people are in your house? I had that in my home in PA.
Felt more secure at night too, a second barrier.
Time for me to grab my …. (NRA member - was a musician out on the road 2-3 AM, alone, 6 nights a week.)
LOL i came back from a hot bath and was reading all of the wonderful posts, about daycare
and MTC’s excellent observation on m’s “trial” talk ( missed that )…
and then came across poor TORI’S hamburger story…lol… see you still remember it caused you to remember a sad moment, like the brownie thing…lol….
betty 1 and lil red-
yah it was a building of things there and then that was the last straw, it was sad cause i knew i could never come in there again it was a friday and i fortunatetly found one quickly…on the one hand I understood about the structuring and her maybe feeling like she failed with my girl cause she would get frustrated whatever she did she couldnt get her to eat right… i did understand, on the other hand you never leave a child out of a party celebration and punish them with food, by removing it, i was like a ROTTWHILER ( spelling… you know the dogs ).. i can see me as she gets into school how I will be already

fighting mad if you mess with my girl your messin with me, and I am a timid person, but have learned with my kid, theres this automatic backbone you grow
Hey, young mothers, let’s just get bonded and insured NANNIES! Just a joke, don’t tell me to bite my tongue!!!!
Lulu - Try telling them they’re not old enough to eat that! LOL! THEN they want it!!!
And never tell ‘em it’s “good for them.”
Sometimes I think telling them that it will “rot their teeth” is a better recommendation!!!!
Yes I do believe in resorting to some “trickery” at times.
But one person (I apologize I can’t remember who) mentioned that their mom I think would just ask the child to eat one bite of a new food. That’s all - one bite. After a while the child often becomes accustomed to it. It seems a fair way to deal with it.
Lulu - and also be sure to get RICH nannies who already have all the toys and clothes etc that your children need! ANd who can afford to take them to Disney WOrld etc.
M2c, oh they will make her miserable. The petty ones will do things like steal from her or bully her out of her meals. Nasty ones will beat her and make her their toy. But someone, someone hardcore with nothing to lose (probably several someones will try before it is done) will kill her for nothing but rep and respect.
I am off to work, good people. Hopefully– making a difference to my patients and encouraging good lifestyle changes.
Lulu some states do have email and internet privileges in their state jails but not all of them. When they do it is strictly monitored by the prison officials.
Most the scams and stuff you hear about are in federal prisons where the internet access is more liberal. Some inmates in fed pens have internet IN THEIR CELLS if they can afford it.
amen MTC yah i remember back then her daddy had just died, i was so weak then and not knowing what to do, trying to work this temp job when she was there.. and i remember crying alot, but when that happened that day that was it.. i knew she wouldnt be back, I also told her off, I said the next time you have a party you never punish using food, i am removing my kid for this reason ( she tried calling me over the weekend to change my mind)… i also told the local fia office on her…
this one I use now is great, they already knew coming in what i dealt with there, so, they know I will yank her quick if it ain’t right.. they are very good with her, and i know she is trying at times…
i will never forget this incident, and it told me when my instincts were bad do it and figure it out.. as i said i was at a HORRIBLE time right then and thank the lord we’re OK now…
a whole new life really…
Morning M2C
Your first post today was soooo good!! I couldn’t agree more.. when I watched that video I wanted to reach thru the puter and b*tch slap m!!
I totally despise her and her entire family..
I know what, I can not wait till that trial starts. I know we all feel that
way.. I am so sick of hearing all the bull from everyone connected to
the ants.
Have you heard if they have even scheduled or made any arrangements for our baby??
Goldie - THank you. I guess I”m mad and upset enough about this right now to be un-Christian enough to say “glad to hear it.” I guess I’ll have to work on that for my soul’s sake.
I had been concerned that M’s sociopathy might enable her to become a “leader” of sorts - start out as a curiosity but then become someone who could manipulate other inmates.
But now that I think about it, although M is a sociopathic liar and manipulator I don’t think she’s really very good at it. I’ll bet there are inmates who are MUCH better at it than she is. They won’t let her get very far or powerful.
Lilred - I have not heard about any funeral arrangements so far but your question reminded me of something I thought of last night.
The funeral that C should really be planning is M’s. God knows no one else cares enough to do it. Now, who will she “Invite?” Or “Dis-invite?” Who would go? Who would care?
I’d certainly pitch in and help dig the hole and come back and throw dirt and rocks on it. What to put on the marker? I can’t write it here.
And for music? How about a world-resounding round of raspberries?
My two cents - That’s my life right now. I take care of my 92 year old mother 24/7. She doesn’t even let me leave the room. She fell 5 years ago and hit her head (subdural hematoma) - has some brain damage. She was living with me at the time and we had a ball shopping and visiting craft stores. Breaks my heart what has happened to her. She was and is a good person. That’s why I have no patience for people like M.
So I do depend on good caregivers. We have caregiver once a week for 6 hours. I go crazy running around to do errands and shopping on those 6 hours. I know what you mean about have good care takers.
Pickles, I think that most people who want to become nurses and caregivers are exceptional, caring people.
Thank you caregivers.
m - YOU can go to h*ll!
anna-would love to know about pumlin bars??? send recipe lol
Floridian hi!!
OK, I must be goofy, but this is the first time I realized you were a guy..
I’m sorry!!! It sounds like you have a good handle on things going on in the ‘ants’ creepy life!!!
XO - You are truly a good mother to have been able and willing to handle that situation when it happened. When you were probably at your lowest point emotionally.
Unfortunately some mothers would have still been wallowing in self-pity and not thought of their child.
If you ever wondered if you were going to be a good mom, that was the answer, sweetie!
You ARE!
capy…awwww….
I am a caregiver for a living…i take care of mentally and phsyically disabled people in there homes… ( group homes)…
like every occupation, there are good and bad ones… my company does good screening…, at times, I find myself so saddened with my clients, I use to strictly work with the elderly, I had 3 of them pass away, sounds like your doing a wonderful job with your mother!
thanks for the thanks! it is always appreciated!
pickles… everytime you talk about your ‘orange hair’ you crack me up!!
Is it really orange?? My mother used to say when I was little, my hair
looked exactly like an orange. Both my girls are red heads, when my
youngest was very young her hair was the color of an orangutang.. no kidding.. the exact color..
NOW, they both color their hair.. it is more like strawberry blonde, like mine..
Pickles.. I love the fact you are a redhead!!!
aww thanks MTC your making me tear up, I could write a book to other mothers, who are in despair on how to survive… truly… the loest moments of my entire 46 years were back then , and i am living proof you can survive!!!!
I also think soemtimes God gives us a load, and lets us try to figure it out… if you would have seen that person then you would not recognize me now… i credit not only GOD but my daughter for bringing so many good things inside me of strength i didn’t know I had…
truly.. my girl has changed my entire life, outlook, how I react etc.. my mom used to tell me i needed to grow a spine LMAO… and well i did mom I always talk to her when I am doing something like standing up for myself and say is this what you meant LOL
further, lol, i think thats why this case got to me, to see M what she has done, sickens me because I am one who has truly been through it, M had no worries, other than her date nights gettin ruined.. she had support help, financial aid from mom, she ahd no excuses her life could have and would have been something had she done and went down the right path asked for help, or even given caylee up, if necessary.. so i think because of my struggles myself thats what drew me to this, un-understanding…
M2C I could see her pulling off a ‘cult’ type leader thing maybe 20 years ago but not the way things are now. When she gets in the ’system’ she will be dealing with hardcore thug mentality and that is all it is about in there is rep and respect. Spoiled rotten baby killrs may get plenty of camera time but that don’t mean shit to a sista on the street who knows nothing of that life.
Poor little Miss Murder is going to be way out of her element and the beeyotches in jumpsuits are already waiting for that fresh meat. Someone doing life who has nothing to lose will kill her just for the rep.
M2C.. that is funny about what you said about m’s funeral.. it will put back the ‘fun’ in funeral!!! LOL
BBL guys and gals… going to actually get off my butt and go get a haircut.. wahoo…a haircut always makes me feel better. Is that
weird???
xoxo to all my peeps.. you guys are GRRRREAT!!!(sound like Tony the tiger ha)
pickles shes in pc because of the publicity of this case..alot of baby killers are pc from the start for thier protection…believe me pc would be no fun , no communication with any one serves her right so she can try not to think about caylee but i bet somewhere she is, probably thinking if id have done this they would have never caught me or that she should have pulled herself out of tonys bed long enought to leave for calif..
pumpkin bars…did i mispell again? sorry
I though u might mean pumpkin. lol but never know could be pumlin but I am interested.. in a recipe, thats my girls whole thing she loves sweets so thats why shes fussy… she does eat like oranges and bananas, but the sweets are what she likes
Goldy_fishy…
Had to comment on your post.. I hate to say but it gives me great
satisfaction seeing the wonder-snatch being someone’s bitch!
“Felt more secure at night too, a second barrier.
Time for me to grab my … (NRA member - was a musician out on the road 2-3 AM, alone, 6 nights a week.”)
By that I meant, the second barrier, my strong lock and door GAVE ME time to wake up, and time to grab it. (NOT that it’s time to grab it - now.) GEEEEEEEZ! Hope nobody misunderstood. Sorry if that happened…
Not interested in giving Casey justice. Other inmates will, LE will. Not my job.
I guess hypoglycemics shouldn’t write until they have had breakfast. So - bbl. Had my coffee tho
lilred..im a midnight candy eater, one night i got up and grabed some peanut butter bites(small candy) went back to bed…woke up and my hand was all sticky and gross went in the kitchen washed my hands went to the bathroom looked in the mirror…candy was smeared all over my face!!! havent been able to eat peanutbutter cups to much any more, even after a shower i could smell that candy all day
true story!!
Anna - Ha. I actually left the site and googled “pumlin bars, recipe” and couldn’t find anything.
Pumpkin bars sound delish.
xoxo~ cooks.com…aunt dinah’s pumpkin bars….yummy!!!!! specially cream cheese frosting….could eat that alone
m2c~ when my mother was sick we had hospice come in my sister caught one gal going thru stuff stealing!! unbelievable my moms dying and far from rich..not even comfortable always had $$ prob and for someone to try and steal what little she had was outrageous!!! the other hospice lady was sweet even came to her funeral
xoxo..you know whats good is apples and carmel dip also apples with peanut butter ..get the sweet and something good at the same time
Anna
:)
Found it! Printed it! THX
Pickles, Lilred and XOXO
I too am a readhead,and can’t help but notice we are “way” over represented on this blog. What’s with that? Kinda weird, as usually don’t see this many redheads in the same place.
cappy~your moms a lucky woman so many younger people woont take the x for thier older sick parents not all are like that but in the end youl be able to relive your time with her with no regrets…makes my day when i hear about people like you :)…most the people on this blog sound like warm and caring people, i think thats why i stay and for caylee…i feel i owe it to her to stay till justice is served only wish i could do more.
thanks anna, I’m going there now… ugh broke my heart about the hospice story , i admire hospice so much, we used them too for my mother… see bad and good ones out there I guess.. I feel the same way how can anyone take from people who have solittle, like with my clients, its our job to look out for them, they have nothing truly, I am always the one buying them a pop, a treat lol and my boss says not to, but ican’t help it.. i feel I have been so blessed in my life, to give back a pop out of my own money, is nothing…can’t always do it…but feel good doing it..
ok going to the site now.
My Mother had Hospice Oct 03 to Jan 06 and was removed because of her improvement.
We had therapists, hospice and a lot of caregivers (because my father was disabled from stroke - so we had two disabled in the house)
We had earrings, wedding rings, camera and a plaque that was made for my late husband stolen.
But, you just have to take precautions and move on. There are times when we can’t get too bogged down with anger issues.
I have a question. Does this case have a prosecuting atty yet? If not, when do they select? How do they select - by judge?
Sorry, but I never really questioned it during Orange Juice or Scott Peterface. I really want to pay attention this time.
I don’t want anything to happen to M in the slammer - she needs to face justice. We need some answers so “… yes, now you will all understand” gag
hello everyone: we live in citys out skirts suburban area woods beautiful landscapes
in our cities we have, Fire Dpt , rescue . Ambulances ,& certainly, Police where me make calls to report accidents you name it , ,In Orlando there was a child Missing , Im sure most people heard of it ,even though its a busy City ,
Roy Kronk made it possible he was going to look for caylee , even tho it was reported she was seen here and there alive
Kronk called police ,,, yes we know all of that , if the (suspicious ) as he called it, a bag ?? would look unusual,
Ok, so he was the one who was inquisitive ? not the bag that was suspicious, laying in deep water ?? was it far from the rd? he goes in that area to urinate,so it couldn’t have tooo far from the rd,
Thats fine … twice he has done that, he calls Cops “did he say it may be the missing little girl?”‘
I’m sure, the fire Dpt Police amb, rescue name it would have RUSHED there & arrived at the scene & I’m Sure some one would have had a POLE or some kind of Divice to lift the bag out of the water …, he says the officer shook his head & said “I dont see any thing” (”something not right here ,, there had been 3 calls … SOOO he goes back Dec 11th and there it was ?? whats wrong with this picture, ,,, urinating Near a school , (drinking too much beer Kronk??
I think he is sincere about not getting tips, and not knowiing the Anthony family ,, but if he was that sure & concerned about Caylees remains being there , he should have stayed there until,,,someone with authority checked it out thourghly,
Thank you Kronk for finding Caylee
i think they have the state prosecuter but not sure of the name…m2c if anyone would know shes good with details
Capy…justice at taxpayers expense. BS…
I do believe in prison for offenders (especially drug dealers because 80% of all crime trickles back down to their poison).
HOWEVER WHEN IT COMES TO SOMETHING LIKE THIS
Death…a violent and painful one…is all I want to see. She isn’t going to ‘get’ or understand anything. She is a psychopath and she will stay in the baby murdering denial biaatch la-la land game she has going on in her head for her entire life. I just hope it is a short one.
xoxo~your sweet
capy i know you cant dwell on that stuff it just makes me mad, i would never take anything from anyone no matter how in need i was so it just makes me mad when people steal(especially from a dying person) even the wealthy worked hard for what they have and dont deserve to have it taken…
Nana -
He left the scene twice after making a report. The cops had no complainant or victim so they didn’t stop. That is just standard operating procedure.
The time he did stay around I don’t think there was a bag visible in the water. He had seen it before but it wasn’t visible then. Though I know that many cops are bored and complacent I just think too much pressure had been put on the idea that the officer did ‘nothing’. If the bag had been visible I doubt it would have gone as ill investigated as this seems.
I’m just glad he was persistent and did the right thing unlike dummy-dick and his so called psy-kick (leevil) were doing poking around in the area.
CAN the Prosecution SERIOUSLY get ANY TRUTH out of Lee or his parents?
ARE they capable of SPEAKING the truth?
Is it worth it, asking them for anything via Subpoena which automatically gives immunity in FL for the contect discussed? (This would be immunity for only the scope of his testimony, but not beyond? Is that right?) This is some kind of joke? The TRUTH from an anthony? ANY of them?
Skilled liars, like they are, scare me. Yes - skilled lawyers will cross examine them, but THEY are not novices … THEY are very skilled liars themselves.They are not like us …
FLASH! Circuit City is liquidating! Couldn’t find a buyer in time, Fox News.
Goldie you got me all wrong…..
he called police AUG 11 . he was in the area ..as I said he should have waited ,,, goes back twice again its all written on top of this page bu the writer -s of this blog ,,,
If i’m out looking for a child, Remains, Body .that i think it (May be in Bag) ?
OK… first of all there may have been More than one Bag in that area ? was there?
sometime people throw their garbage along side of highways , roads , ditches revenes ?
He said the Bag LOOKED suspicious ,,, what did he mean by that??? you tell me… thanks goldie
Speaking of truth - we need to get to the bottom of who the Pie was talking to when he was poking around. Get those phone records. Psycic said Verizon didn’t post her calls to him - BS. And, someone brought up a good point here - how did she get Caylee’s teddy bear? A lot of communication going on here that doesn’t add up
He has already stated that he was drawing on resources he had previously used as a PI and bounty hunter. He was aware that a child was missing in the general area and feared dead. He said that to him it just like it would be a good place to ‘lose’ something if you didn’t want it found.
I was suspicious at first too but I find him to be one of the few credible things we actually know about this case thus far.
Here here Capy! I already said that LE need to give miss tele-pathetic an order to produce phone records to verify the call. If it turns out she is lying put both her and dummy-dick in jail…
Anna and Capy…
Boy, we ALL need a locked room! Everyone can steal, maybe even workmen, Caregivers, etc. Imagine if M were in our homes, before we knew?
A maid stole from my husband. Notrious around here! Locksmith came to put a lock on and said “What is it? The maid?” Never too late to put a lock on.
oh i get it…..the bag looked suspicious
Because…It ..
wasn’t secured properly so the garbage wouldn’t fall out
or… it was wrapped in duct tape?
and who-ever secured this (Suspicious bag) didnt do a good job,
some time people place their garbage at the Curb or the bulavard and they dont secure it properly, yeah the garbage will fall out
Kronk is on the up and up nana. He has investigative skills that make him think of things the average joe might not.
why did he kick the bag? he had no business touching the bag , thats up to investigators
he didn’t want to touch it before he said “there may be a freaking body in it” ….Hello !!!!!I think Kronk has alot to answer too ,,,,
Hey peeps
I am still not convinced about kronk…I was saying to beast that if he was concerned ENOUGH to call 3 days in a row…why would he just walk away…for 4 months..
The officer DID NOT to my knowledge go into the swamp to verify that it was indeed garbage…he should have…but he didn’t and kronk knew that…so why would he not have insisted someone do a more thourough job.
Jill from Western Australia, I just read your 2:04 am post. Thanks for sharing your very loving story with us. It touched my heart and gave me goose bumps! You have a wonderful, caring daughter and her sweet little guy is lucky to have her as a mom! May they be blessed and protected all of their lives!
Does anyone remmber this song, GOD IS WATCHING US FROM A DISTANCE? by Beth Milder,Someone needs to play this song for Casey,she thinks she is so smart!There is one who can not be fooled who knows everthing she has done up untill this min, before and after!Big problem in this world, NO RESPECT NONE NOT EVEN FOR THE DEAD! None when it comes to money it makes me sick to think there are people who would sell pictures of her little bones, No worry GOD will punish them,Thank GOD I live in a town in the south where we still pull our cars over,when a funeral prosession goes by we still have respect for the dead,I had also wondered if anyone had thought that casey had plans to do away with all of them, because you can see she does not care about Cindy or George, she thinks its all funny like its some kind of game,she had no love for her only child and it is very plain to see,all she knows how to do is Lie Eat Sleep,Cindy knows she is lieing you can tell by the way she looks at Casey and then Casey will say something to make Cindy hang on a little longer its like her brain is saying she did it but my heart says no she could not do this poor woman she has aged her and George makes me sick to see them beg her for information, yes they may have found out some stuff sometimes in all the stress we lose sight of what is right,GOD is the only right way follow him he has CAYLEE now, not CASEY she is not GOD,nor does she have GOD in her,she has EVIL living in her! GOD IS WATCHING YOU CASEY ANTHONY FROM A DISTANCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Nana…legally he had zero obligation to report anything. You can witness a crime, find a dead body, stumble on stolen cash or illegal drugs and just walk away from it no questions asked.
He did what was right, that is all that matters.
he was rewarded $5.000 great ,, he need it for child support , Ive read…
also the kidnapping thing in the 90s about the girlfriend, moving, didn’t get it all, AND I will look that up he may be a shady Charactor, ,
hope he isnt lieing (a bit) over any of this discovery he says he had no tips Why did he go the 4 times …???????
I just saw the last part of the latest jail visit with M. Talking about LE “If they come in here attacking me I won’t give them sh.t. I need to be looked at as a victim.”
Damn double damn her hide. I hope she never sees daylight again.
And all that talk about her “gut” telling her Caylee is okay while complaining to her parents about how hard all of this is on her.
She just doesn’t want her parents to worry about Caylee. SHE wants all their attention and sympathy. (Repeat what I said in previous paragraph beginning with Damn)
I think Kronk is on the up and up. Just read that now he thinks the white thing he saw the first time was part of a skull. Would that make sense? If caylee was killed in June, would only a skull be left in Aug?
Hi C~A yes i was wondering as i said in my post top why did Fire Dept with all sorts of equipment arrive when he reported this first call on Aug the 11 He called & reported a bag they went there couldn’t FIND him?? Aug 13th police would not go in the water /// well!! here is where we need Fire Dept or Rescue where were they ? OMG I’m getting pissed off
MTC - the new video that’s out…I had to stop she was literally makin me sick…her little pitty party is pathetic….it was all about her and she felt and NEVER once did she talk about her child….voluntarily or otherwise…
big one though…did you hear her right at the beginning….about sinde
WHAT IS “SHE” ( not mom ) “SHE” CRYING FOR ALREADY?….CAN YOU BELIEVE THE HEARTLESS C*&^
Goldie your 12:54 posting, I dont agree with you at all, … your laws arn’t like ours thats for sure
Ironic….M complains that all she has to do is sleep in jail. Poor little Caylee was put to sleep to be silenced a lot, I think. How else could M be texting and on the computer and partying constantly?
any way how are you C`A yes i watch that pathetic little snot on NG last night
even if cindy & G knew in their heart she was lieing they will not admit it
casey is just a brown noser manipulator.My FATHER WOULD SAY (”DO YOU SEE ANY GREEN IN MY EYES ?”) LOL thats what G&C should say to her set off on the (deep end) lol
C~A, I know what you mean. And, it was really “in your face” at the hearing last week. How anyone can sit there and hear about their child’s skeleton, bones and autopsy and not blink an eye. Even a few little smiles.
I wish NG would quit showing clips of M crying. If I’m not mistaken she was crying about her bond, or some damn thing. I can’t remember. But, she is NOT crying about her daughter.
Hey, Nana! My eyes are green.
m says all she does is sleep and read her bible..how do you sleep if you are worried about your child like she claims??? and to hear her threaten to leave the visit gee what a piece of work that b### is!
anna,
she acts like a high school drama queen, not a 22 year old
hoe c can still defend her is also beyond me its obvious she treats them like shi*
Yes, CA! I caught that “What is SHE crying about already?” Well, hey! How about YOUR MISSING CHILD!!!!!?
And I guess at the end that she thought if they said something bad about LE that LE would not release the tape. She thought she’d figured out a way to prevent that.
One thing I have not figured out. This is August 14th nearly one month after her granddaughter is discovered missing, the upteenth visit to the jail and Sindee, the NURSE, has not discovered pocket size tissues or the good old stand-by a HANDKERCHIEF????
God I hope she didn’t touch anyone after wiping her eyes, face and RUNNY NOSE so much.
I suppose ol’ gutterskank may not be allowed a tissue in jail but she didn’t have one at her last press conference either. But I do not understand why her mother never uses them. YUCK! And she went to nursing school? Ever heard of germs?
Ever heard of manners or even trying not to be GROSSSSS?
And one more thing to vent (if you will bear with me dear friends). Ever since I first heard M speak I cannot STAND it! Her speech is so “affected.” Trying to sound what ? smart? educated? She says “sh” frequently when it should be “s.”
Like “frushtrated” instead of “frustrated.”
She does it a lot but not all the time or with the same words so it is not like a speech problem. It’s a way to emphasize and dramatize her speech I think. Similar to trying to use big, high class words and terms like “attorney.”
Goldie, tell me someone will knock her teeth out and then she’ll have a reason not to be able to say “s.” She’ll be “fruSHtrated” forever.
Oh, dear. Back to the prayer book I (should)go.
Anna… 12:23 post
LMAO… that is so funny!!! Since I have sick, I do alot of eating in my chair… Last week, after eating juju fruits, I fell asleep, woke up in the middle of the night, feeling something weird in my PJ’s, I had JuJu fruits
stuck(from the heat/compression) to my butt.. a bunch of them..they were falling off me as I walked!!! BUT.. I still eat in my chair…
always a surprise what I wake up looking like tho!!!
LIL, LOL
She’s reading her Bible? Wouldn’t her used up, semen receptacle, nasty a$$, body reject something so pure? Her Bible? Are you kidding me?
Good Afternoon all, busy work day and alot of catching up to do on the reading…
anna, I heard M mention that someone had sent her a book - not a Bible. Maybe someone sent a Bible too but it was another book. She doesn’t talk about reading the Bible. That’s why her mother asked if she’d gotten the Bible that she’d given Jose to give to M. Of course she had not. Jose was probably afraid that Sindee or G had put a hidden message in it. It’s not hard to figure out that in several of these visits C and G are trying to tell M NOT to let BB be in total charge of things. And the private meeting they are talking about between M and G never took place as I understand it because BB intervened and told M not to do it.
The reason G was pushing M to make the request that day was because BB was in NY. They KNEW BB would prevent it and thought they could get the meeting while he was away. I’ll bet he was on the phone to M or someone from his office met with her right after he found out her parents had visited her. That’s why that meeting never happened.
this might be nothing but didn’t someone not to long ago say something about them suggesting Amy was the Nanny and also had the same kind of car? If so, maybe that’s the car link, it was familiar to her….
I think Amy had a different car. I am still curious about Annie
And what ever happened to the guy in CA? m called him with something important
I have noticed that two. She tries to use big words and sound smart. Go back and look at some of the transcripts.
She is so dysfuntional in every way. That was dumb of me — of course, that is what being a sociopath is all about. She can pull any personality out of the hat to fit the moment.
M2C…12:56
Your post was exactly how I have been thinking since I saw that video
myself… WA WA WA ‘look at me mommy/daddy!!” WA WA WA….
Its all about the wonder-snatch!!! I actually watched it twice..
I think I said this b4, I felt like reaching inside my puter and b*tch slapping her!!!
CA and nana: I tend to think Kronk’s on the up and up. You don’t. Can you tell me, if he’s not on the up and up then what was his “angle?”
I don’t get it.
OOOps, I mean “noticed that too”.
When m quoted from the bible, I almost heaved
It just occurred to me that we got one good look at the REAL M in this jail visit. Finally!
It was when she was enraged with her parents (for asking them questions) and swore (putting phone away from her face). THat’s the REAL M with a REAL emotion! Very likely what she looked like when she killed Caylee.
Trying to catch up here… During the video G, with his gorgeous or beautiful bullcrap or whatever he said and the ‘you’re the boss here’… I think he was trying to butter her up and make her feel like the center of attention so he might be able to extract more info from her…
Tori I must still not have seen all the tapes. I did not hear her quote from the Bible.
Where are you watching the tape? A link or just name of web site? Not that I need to upchuck which I’m sure I will if I hear that.
Let me see if I can find it.
Bmore - I also think that her parents do not trust BB. Never did. And don’t want her to trust him entirely either. That’s why he says that BB works for HER. They don’t like some of what BB is doing. And G knows that BB won’t want her to meet with him but she can if she wants to. (meeting never happened)
TIMBIT.. your redhead post
That is really weird.. but pretty cool!!!! I can remember being the only
kid in my class.. even in the school (Catholic school..small) with red
hair.. I still remember our Priest (mean kinda fellow) saying “I would
rather be dead than red on the head’… yup, that came from our
parish priest!!!!
Talk about sticking out!!! Did you ever get teased??
(I was also skinny… eeeks)
Bmore - Sindee told LE she thought that the nanny might be Amy. Damn her hide, too (Sindee’s I mean). Sindee’s spawn used and stole from Amy AND sponged off her living with her (when Amy can’t even afford her own place).
And no I don’t think the cars are the same besides too much of a coincidence that the car M describes is owned by ZFG.
I don’t agree with how the Ants have handled this but with the degree of malnipulation on all levels of that family I bet that had something to do with it… The only reason I can imagine C&G are still fighting for M is because they’ve come to terms that Caylee is gone and even though she did it and is a pain in the a$$ they don’t want to lose her too… I think for both C & M it comes down to pride, they don’t want people to think they’re bad mothers… No disrespect to Caylee but I hope if they put M in GP everyone calls her Caylee just to keep it in front of her face what she did and why she’s there…
I hated being a redhed in school…I was always the only one Xcept in Jr.High…there was a butt ugly boy with red hair..didnt help any…
mytwocents
http://www.wesh.com/video/18491789/index.html
It is the uncut version of the tape and the bible quote is around 23:00
Bmore - I think you’re right if you meant that Sindee is defending M because it reflects so badly on herself as a mother and a grandmother.
And it does!
But she is making a complete horse’s A of herself by doing it and denying any kind of decency to her granddaughter.
Timbit..
http://
http://www.
thetech.org/genetics/ask.php?id=144
I colored my hair red before, it was white blonde (colored of coarse)and then with the red on top… OMG! Those in their 30’s should remember Just Say Julie from Mtv (she was also in Earth Girls are Easy), she had fire-engine red hair… Yeah that was me, the most un-natural color red out there!
my2cents,
Hope you can get it. Otherwise, google Wesh 2 news Orlando.
Lilred…its orange….mostly orange…yah…its degenerate..thats for sure.
MTC… I’m with you on that… My Mom… God knows she loves me to death but would kick the crap out of me if I pulled this crap… Growing up she would give you the look and that’s all it took, you didn’t cross her… Not that she ever beat us, you just knew better!
Earth Gurls Are Easy rockd the house!!!
I never really minded being a redhead (except for the sunburn thing) I never felt that alone though, since red hair runs rampant through my family.I never got teased that much though, except the odd carrot top comment. One of my best friends was a redhead, though, and we stuck together. She was a really tough little sht, and didn’t take any bull from anybody. I think that helped.
I have a poor little red headed boy now (8yrs old) and he too has managed to befriend another redhead who is the toughest kid in the class, so he does okay too. Neither of us got kicked on “Kick a redhead day” ( I woulda kicked back, ha ha )
Bmore.. your post about m’s bible
I am surprised as hell the bible didn’t burn up in her hands when she touched it!!!!
My ex-brother in law is a red-head, only one out of 6 kids… His is perfectly straight and stands on end straight up… Is like a neon orange, like a Cheetos…
Lilred, that’s what I’m talking about… The town pump with a Bible? How convenient when you have a murder wrap over your head! She is definetly a (nasty) that should have be swallowed….
A real Bible Humper
Maybe the porportion of redheads on here is because we all turned out empathetic due to knowing what it is like to be picked on, and feel like we need to stand up for others who are poorly treated like Caylee.
Anyone else on this forum, besides redheads feel their empathy may have come from something similar?
IF I killd my kids my mom would put me in jail so fast my head would spin…she would never talk to me again..ever..she would most likely f*ck me up on the way to the jail or before the cops got there…uh uh…no they would not break the law to cover it up for me then do whatever shady shooot they are doing on the side…nope…
Pickles, it dawned on me that there are a lot of redheads on TV now. Take notice on commercials too. People want to dye their hair red.
What color are your eyes? Redheads always have beautiful eyes, whether they’re brown or green, blue.
I had a thing for red-haired, and freckled boys in elementary school. I can remember two of them.
Jumping back to your bad daycare posts… When my twins were between 1 and 2 a friend of my husband’s mom had a licensed daycare we took them to… she had 1/2 her yard sectioned off for the kids with jungle gyms and stuff but the little ones didn’t go to the back end of the yard… I pick them up and 1 had a medium sized mark on her shine and the lady said i don’t know what that is, i scrubbed it and she never cried, so on and so on… I took her to nighttime Pediatrics and they said it was a 2nd degree burn… I took her home went over that lady’s house found that it was a lawn mower she had under the slide at the end of the yard… Her husband was about to call the police, talk about a crazy woman, they were scared! She never cried? 2nd degree burn are you sh!tting me?
Linda - post 12.54
That was an excellant post. I agree, God is the ultimate judge and jury.
There is no way to ever tell what goes on in the mind of m… I too think she probably could/would have loved to end the lives of her entire family
I think she is completely capable to hurt anyone who gets in her way…
she was tired of Caylee… poof, Caylee is gone.. She even told her friends that she would be getting c & g house soon.
M is a sick, delusional person. I would not put anything past her.
But so true, God is watching her… and she will ultimately pay.. hopefully in this life as well as the afterlife.
YO Jan!!!
I’m not red but dark brown with natural red highlights… when the sun hits it the red shines through… I guess it’s the diluted Irish in me… All of us together, I think it boils down to an innocent, defenseless child being murdered in cold-blood and disgarded like something you clean up after your dog…
Blue…
Hey Linda….that is an awesome post..she sucks
Bmore…you couldnt Bmore right!!!
Its all about Caylee…precious,harmless,beautiful,mezmerizing,intoxicating,angelic specimen of a child..she is magnificent…not that they all arent…this one they just shoved in my face and shoveld down my throat..and due to resemblences in Caylee in other childrn I am very close to….I cant forget about her..and she has brought quite a bit to my life regarding this blog and the ppl in it and who run it…I mean…she must truelly be an angel…not the kind her LoP family xpect her to be for there benefit..
yes cindy a nurse, no tissues to wipe you eyes nose first ? then eyes hope you didnt touch anthing after all of that Casey gets all kinds of toiletries and no tissues to wipe you snot ar your crocodile tears ??? eueew jail house tapes made me want to vomit yukkkk
I am her for Caylee and the ppl she has connected me with..ppl who are better friends to me then all the friends I had growing up…and into my adult life…..Caylee has brought alot of ppl together in many different forums..all over the net…everywhere.
On Caylee’s B-Day c made her chili and cornbread and some stranger came to the door, so they invited him in for some. Creepy family or what?
Nana c is trash just like her daughter they are all the same all of them..mirrored images killr learned how to lead a secret life from her lying cheating loser father…she learnd to be a manipulative controlling b~ from her mother…she learned to be a spoiled rotten sob from them not disciplining her…c is trash she raised the trash in her image and let her get out of control and that trash had no concept on the value of human life her own child..c is killr killr is g they are 3 of the same..and eddie munstr..who knows about that donk
M reaction, “God says love thy neighbor”
mytwocents said,in January 16th, 2009 at 1:27 pm
Goldie, tell me someone will knock her teeth out and then she’ll have a reason not to be able to say “s.” She’ll be “fruSHtrated” forever.
Oh, dear. Back to the prayer book I (should)go.
LMAO!!! Oh, I needed that, you are TOO funny!
Back to the jail tapes I go, I’m on part four, I think I might be coming up to the bible quite (which, she did say she spent Caylee’s birthday under the covers, reading her bible all day) riiight.
Wait…on Caylee’s bday the one we just had..or when she was alive?
Linda I saw a film or video once where the people down south, all pulled over and stopped everything, out of respect for the dead (funeral). That was so touching … to me.
Just saw the Greta video.MADE MY DAY!!! “IT” is starting to come apart under the constant pressure of C. Wait till it sits there in it’s Trial and hears all the evidence. I never knew I could HATE like this, but am finding out. Puts the guilt trip on them, “you don’t understand how I feel”. OH but WE ALL do …CAUGHT, BUSTED, acting like a caged, trapped RAT who is cornered - suffering *relentless* pressure! She is tho, trying to teach C how to handle her in this situation. If you want to talk to me, you WILL NOT ASK ME pointed QUESTIONS about where Caylee is. I notice IT always talked about itself, but C always brought it back to CAYLEE, saying SHE is the focus here. The M gets mad, but has to agree! ha ha ha ha. Anybody know when that video was made in jail? Honestly, going to have a good day! Love that found video. She is starting to crack … a little. Probably never will, but still suffering greatly, while “trying not to!” WELCOME to all newbies! I am here almost a month I think.
I had never head that Bett Midler song, but I did look lyrics up after I read your post.
God is Watching Us from a Disance - very good
She spent Caylee’s bday under the covers reading the bible all day…mmm hmmm yah sounds just like the wonder gash.
Pickles,
It’s in the August tapes. The 3 yr b-day.
Pickles
Your 2:22 post
Great things can sometimes come out of horrible situations like this one. If you think about all the people who have been affected by this,and imagine that it has created all kinds of friendships and connections for hundreds of people, and possibly been the catalyst for people stepping up to volunteer and get involved, at least there is some little positive coming from that poor little girl’s death. She sure won’t be forgotten any time soon.
Also, I think the media and blogs etc. are clueing a lot of people in to understanding and recognizing psychopaths, which is also a good thing- may save other lives some day if people learn about this and are able to recognize it and act to prevent similar situations.
Yah im sure she done loved her neighbor right on up…
http://www.wesh.com/video/18491789/index.html
the uncut tapes the birthday thing starts around 22:00 or so
I think about how my girls were at that age and they’re so fun! Not opinionated or anything, they don’t expect anything from you except hugs and kisses! It’s UNCONDITIONAL LOVE! It just gets me how calus the act was, to her it was like flushing the toilet. She whines in her texts with Amy about being all emo about a guy and respect and being treated like this or that and feelings… What feelings, she’s not capable. How can you do that to your child of 3 years without even a thought of looking back? That’s what gets me, how can you do that? We had a guy here in Baltimore in a custody battle for his 3 kids and after the wife complained to the court about fearing for their safety the Dad got visitation anyway and killed all 3 of them (2, 4,&6) in a hotel by drowning them. Afterwards he called the front desk and told them what he did…. At least he ( still being the sick f**k that he is) acknowledged what he did. Trial pending
She made crappy ass chilli and cornbread for Caylee’s bday and invited some dude off the streets in to celebrate..then they all sat around and farted and remeniced about Caylee..
TimBit - I would rather think that people of all hair colors (natural and not) are drawn to this case because a little innocent child was murdered - than any other reason.
Yah…I just think its cool there are a ton of ginger’s in here….quite the coincidence..jah man….
Pickles,
That’s what they said. Did you see the site?
Pickles - I wonder if Caylee liked chili? I doubt it. I don’t think they were “expecting her” to make it to her birthday party, do you?
M2C I read somewhere that chilli was supposedlt Caylee’s favourite meal….my 3 yr old won’t go near it, but I guess you never know….
Betty1 - Are you talking about the latest jail visit video? What’s the Greta video? Do you have a link or web site I could go to if it is not the jail visit?
2 cents
that’s my point, actually……
why are some poeple drawn into a blog like this about an innocent child and others not. I think it is because we have a lot of empathy for people who are treated unfairly.
I am just suggesting that our empathy (all of us, not just redheads) may have been learned at a young age due to our personal circumstances. Really, this is the same point that people are making that M may not have learned empathy due to her screwed up beginnings ( being spoiled etc)
Just an thought.
Love thy neighbor, hell… She’s loved everyone! If I was a dude you couldn’t pay me to do her, she’s been around way to much! These bar guys have to know her rep, I mean even as a one night stand… NO THANK YOU, I don’t have a grudge against my “d” wrapped or not! I guess men were enough, her myspace said she was bi…
emm’s mum - I remember an earlier jailhouse visit in which C and M argued about what Caylee liked! M was carrying on about how she’d fed Caylee only the things she liked - and good food and said “Oh, I would never give her bagels (or something like that - something M thought she didn’t like). And C piped up and said, “Caylee likes bagels.” Can’t remember if it was current or past tense but C knew more about what Caylee liked than M did.
SURPRISE! NOT!
Well, some people blog and some don’t too.
Some just follow on TV etc. I think LOTS of people care because they care about helpless children. I sure hope it doesn’t depend on them (us) having been mistreated at some point. A child’s life should mean more than that.
ha! M2C not a surprise at ALL.
and as IF M even fed Caylee, I am sure it was C who was cooking the meals at that house, not M….
Good point 2 cents
It shouldn’t depend on anyone being mistreated.
thank you pickles , your so right 2:25 post
g said, “Mom made her great chili and we had corn bread.” Some guy called on the phone and they invited him over because he was alone. Mallory came by after work…….just a typical Saturday in the life of Leave it to Beaver.
I know this is morbid but before this I use to read about Chernobyl in my spare time… All the innocent people that died and the generations that are sick… It’s the senseless acts that are committed that hurt people that get me… None of this stuff had to happen but someone with an authority complex felt the need…
YO Jan!!!

I had a great upbringing (though my mother and I clash often- OFTEN!)
lilred omg juju butt
:) to funny m2c i could have sworn she said bible and was trying to get the book hmmm..wouldnt be the first time i was wrong…..bbim
Beaver spent the day under her covers reading her bible and broke down. Awwwwwww
oops- didnt mean to post…
what I was saying, is that I feel such a connection to Caylee, my daughter was born exactly 7 days after Caylee and I see so much of her in my daughter. It just breaks my heart, I tear up every time I see that little face, and the videos on Youtube just KILL me. Bless that baby girl…
oops- didnt mean to post…
what I was saying, is that I feel such a connection to Caylee, my daughter was born exactly 7 days after Caylee and I see so much of her in my daughter. It just breaks my heart, I tear up every time I see that little face, and the videos on Youtube just KILL me. Bless that baby girl…
The biggest thing I notice now days is that kids aren’t being held accountable for their actions. No disipline. They run amuck and the parents blame everyone else… Some kid over my crackhead neighbors house lights off a roman candle firework on my front steps.. My bf is standing at the front door looking at him saying wtf are you doing then the cop across the street runs over with a fire ext. and asks for his mother… The kid took off into the house… Nothing happened… Little prick could of caught my house on fire…
Just thought of something nice. Every year on Caylee’s B.D., maybe we can all make Chili in her honor. Maybe cornbread too?
You Texans make some darn good chili!If anybody has a recent cook-off CHILI winner,or really good chili recipe, maybe they can send it here, and we all can make the same chili, on her birthday.
So BOZO wants to delay the funeral in case more tests will have to be done.(Par for the course,WHAT is the REAL reason?) BUT, he will allow cremation tho. I see, then if anything NEW turns up later, ooops NO MORE possible testing! Gotcha BOZO. Something must be going on there for Bozo’s benefit. EVERY decision he makes I am POSITIVE is for his benefit. Dragging the case out more - ca ching? More discussions on TV? More smoke screens?
I loved where on the tape she says “MY WHOLE LIFE has been taken away from me”. What for a month? **Your choice m.** And little Caylee’s life?
If you are reading this, ms. piggy, GREAT!
BTW, blonde with reddish higlights. Grandmother a real red-head. We are ALL over the place!
Caylee Marie Anthony, Gone but not forgotten … that is almost gone, BOZO!
Betty 1,
Great idea, but…..c and g might steal the recipe, can it, sell it as Caylee’s chili and make mega bucks off the idea
emms mum - you said “if she ever fed her” The thing I wondered about early on was how she had the time to text mail all day and night. I heard (maybe NG) she would be up till the wee hours and then back up at 7:00. Did you see the phone bill that NG held up. It was as thick as a novel.
It’s tough on everyone hearing about this, but to have a little girl born 7 days after Caylee would be hard. You are probably reminded of this constantly when you are caring/playing with your daughter.
OK, I’ve been on the comp a lot - but this is like a new toy. I could never get on the computer until after my Mother went to bed, now I had all the connections moved to the kitchen.
Between texting, weens and pole dancing, there was 0 time for her daughter.
Yo Pickles
Did ya need something?
Jan Barrett
Chili just doesn’t say “birthday” to me. I’d rather buy a little cupcake and put a little candle on it for Caylee.
And it’s the best way to NOT let Sindee capitalize on her chili recipe. Damn her hide.
I hope Caylee’s ashes are ashes in your mouth the rest of your life, Sindee!
Where did everyone go? Finally get on here for a little while and everyone vanished! I feel like a leper… I swear it’s not contagious! lol
Much to my delight, after watching the newest jailhouse tapes,I kept thinking back to the psychologist who said that the only way a psychopath will ever crack is when they are the ones that feel out of contol and often take up religion in that situation! I am really happy that even at that early daye m was miserable and unhappy in jail. Good for her, I assume she is even more miserable now and one can only imagine what she will be like after 20+ years of incareration.
The thing that jumped out at me was when she started swearing and holding the phone away from her mouth, I got an instant snapshot of how she must have treated Caylee.
Another paart of the tape was when C told her how people were surmising that Caylee drowned in the pool. M quickly retorted “Of course” very smugly as if to infer, I knew everyone including LE were too stupid to figure out her crime and it was only a matter of time that she would be free to go home.
Nope not now…spanks doh!!
BMORE
A Dr. Spock Generation?
Many years ago, I was saying to friends that I thought maybe Dr. Spock helped raise this “ME ME ME generation”. I bought the book before I had my baby, and started reading it. It seemed he didn’t believe in discipline, that children could do no wrong?? It was sooo many years ago. I thought, “What? THAT CAN’T BE RIGHT! No discipline? Run wild? They will get SPOILED and be no good to themselves, or anyone else.” I did’t use the front of the book, but did use the back of the book - the medical part.
Years later, I have heard others on TV say exactly what I said about Dr. Spock’s theories decades ago.
Do you suppose C read Dr. Spock’s book, and followed it to the letter?
Hi guys..in for a minute…then back at 4pm…sorry if I jump on and disappear…in and out today..but before I forget…
XOXOXOXOOXOX
I was so so sad that you BABY…all of 18 months was denied a brownie AT A PARTY of all times….It doesn’t take much to break a mothers heart…What a dispicable bich…who does that? Poor baby! I’d FA~LIP RIGHT OUT…Beast and i had babies in home care for a while Annie was just a baby…had suspisions sitter spanked erica for makin a mess with a dirty diaper..we stormed in grabbed our kids…both of which were sleepin ( oldest never slept at 11am) and both had a bottle of KOOL AID…I HAVE NEVER PUT THEM TO BED WITH KOOL AID …At that point neither of them drank kool aid at all….i specified MILK in bottles for bed ( I know I am bad but I did that with all my kids)….I got her license removed for doing childcare in our town again..she moved! I just wanted to CHOKE HER.
Bmore..I dunt mind koodies.
DORK DORK DORK DORK DORK DORK
I don’t thnk alot of parents are actually parenting their children… To busy, unconcerned or don’t want to be bothered… My nephews say I’m mean and my girls tell them they’re just not use to being disiplined… My crackhead neighbor was going off on the phone in front of my house saying I’m weird because I’m so into my kids… Well duh you stupid breeder!
Capy- I agree with the whole ‘being on this thing all the time’. though i spend most of my time on here during the day, while i’m at work LOL! Shhh! Once I get home, all my time is devoted to mah baby girl!
I too, noticed her glimpse of temper when talking to C, really gave insight into their relationship. C is bad cop, G is good cop. “daddy this, daddy that”. ridiculous. divide and conquer I suppose, pitting them against each other- I wondered too, what M was about to say to G when C had walked away for the minute or two, but she stopped when C came and sat back down…probably nothing of importance anyway….
I love being a parent…seriously my kids are my life…24/7 forever….
That’s great Pickles, about the koodies! They’re usually not that bad after the 5th grade….
Between texting, weens and pole dancing, there was 0 time for her daughter
Capy your the greatest…weens…
Cus you said you felt like a leaper…is ok..koodies I can handle
Hello everyone!
I had to add to the redhead conversation , since I have quite an attachment to them lol First …I am mom to the most beautiful redhead , her name is Leah Marie she hooked up with another redhead and gave me two beautiful very redheaded children my grandchildren Georgie and Lil Faith. I too am a brunette with loads of red in my highlights pale skinned and have irish roots. I think that redheaded people are naturally passionate people with strong personalities ,well some anyhow lol Probably why this case affects us this much!
Time to go home to my monkeys (they use to climb on the couch like monkeys when they were little and it just stuck)! Everyone have a safe and enjoyable weekend!
I could hardly finish listening to the tapes for the nausea it was creating. Waaaa waaaawaaa omg I see why she was worried about the media releasing this visit haha true colors showing all over the place c’s frustration probably comes from wanting to reach in there and strangle the truth out of her but it seems like they are afraid of her coddling and soothing her like she is some queen or something!
M2Cents
I think I was on Netscape, trying to get here. Saw a picture of M. I will try to track it down with better information. LOVED IT!
Tori … what brains here!! RIGHT! We cannot have a chili recipe for Caylee. (Her favorite food they said). We will just have to each make our own individual one. Good thinking!!
Bozo and C remind me somewhat of that Colonel what’s his name, P.R./Manager for Elvis?
They have found their NITCH! Create a circus atmosphere, with $$$MONEY$$$ as the bottom line.
My2cents.Yes, good idea. For desert … cupcake/candle for Caylee.
So sad isn’t this…
tho we try to plow ahead trying to help, but so incredibly sad…
BTW my eyes - blue.
All of my redheads eyes are blue also! Mine too!
I think Caylee should of had a huge cake with candles and balloons..and a bounce room thing with all the kids who needed stuffies could come in and play….but no chilli and cornbread…happy bday we love you now were goin to break wind
well hello there my friends! Haven’t read anything to catch up but just checking in b/c I have no kids today!!!!!!!!!!!!!
My2Cents… I don’t know how to post it. Just found it AGAIN! Can anybody help her? Here is how I got to it. Got on Netscape, then I see Comcast.net Her picture is right there … I suppose news stories. The video is called “So Beyond Frustration” (her words). She looks a little WILD in the picture.
That’s because when pushed hard … she doesn’t know where to run/hide nor what to say. C keeps it up! M Squirms …and when really trapped, GETS MAD! Threatened to LEAVE! Love it. ABOUT TIME! Don’t even know when this tape was made. Part of the old “found” videos maybe?
But I am not good with computers. I’m sorry. It was on Greta. The video starts with Greta. Maybe if you watch it today she might do a little rerun of that part. It’s that good!
Can anybody help find this video and post it for M2C and others?
I missed the day care brownie story. Anyone care to fill me in?
From what I gather, though…if that were my little girl and someone denied her anything that everyone else had…I would be livid. Just the thought of anyone hurting her feelings breaks my heart. I would do ANYTHING for my daughter.
I’m frustrated and I’m angry, and I don’t want to be angry. This is the first time that I’ve truly, truly been angry this entire time, but I’m so beyond frustrated with all of this — I can’t even swallow right now because it hurts,” Casey Anthony said
How are you feeling,” Casey Anthony asked her mother during the visit, which took place Aug. 14.
“We’re not doing well, Casey. None of us,” Cindy Anthony said while crying. “Lee has been sick. Dad’s blowing up at the media.”
Before entering the jail, George Anthony lashed out at a reporter on his way into visit his daughter.
“Do you have anything to say about a new theory that Caylee (Anthony) may be dead and that it may be an accident?” a reporter asked.
“Shut up,” George Anthony screamed as he moved toward the reporter. “Shut up.”
“Someone just said that Caylee was dead this morning — that she drowned in the pool. That’s the newest story out there,” Cindy Anthony said.
“Surprise, surprise,” said Casey Anthony, who peppered questions at her daughter during the visit. “I was in Lake County two days ago.”
“OK?” Casey Anthony replied.
“Is there anything there?” Cindy Anthony said.
“Mom!” Casey Anthony said. “I’m sorry. I love you guys. I miss you …” Casey Anthony said before being interrupted by her mother.
“Alright sweetheart, here’s dad,” Cindy Anthony said.
“No. I’m going to hang up and just walk away right now because …,” Casey Anthony said.
“Please don’t,” her mother said.
“I’m frustrated and I’m angry, and I don’t want to be angry. This is the first time that I’ve truly, truly been angry this entire time, but I’m so beyond frustrated with all of this — I can’t even swallow right now because it hurts,” Casey Anthony said.
“Just understand we’re all going in so many different directions. We just want to go in the right one,” Cindy Anthony said.
“Well I can’t point you in that direction when I’m literally at a standstill,” Casey Anthony said.
Local 6 reported that Casey Anthony’s attorney thought he could arrange a secret, in-person visit between Casey Anthony and one family member.
On the released video, Casey Anthony told her father that if she met with her brother, Lee Anthony, he would interrogate her, and her mother would dominate the conversation.
“I want to see all of you, but I wanted to see the one person that one person that I’ve been so far disconnected from the longest, and that’s been you,” Casey Anthony said.
The visit occurred less than a week after Caylee’s third birthday. A week after the visit, Casey Anthony was bailed out of jail by celebrity bounty hunter Leonard Padilla
Pickles - It’s “frushtrated” in M speak! LOL!
Hey CHSAH!!! Long time no see…liver
So manipulative
So so manipulative…yah..you said it
anyways…XOXOXOXO’s girl was at daycare and cus she had been a picky eatr in the past the day care provider denied her girl a brownie at a bday party to punish her for being a picky eater….XOXOXOXO yankd her daughter out of that womans care…qwik as heck YO!!
Floridian….that above post of mine 4:11 is for you…regarding the daycare nazi and the brownie
Hey Pickley!
xoxox did the right thing, what mean person could deny a child a brownie b/c she is a picky eater????? All kids at that age are picky!
Pickley….keep forgetting to tell you congrats on your new endeavour! (nursing)
Thank you…..I hope it goes well…I hates school in my youth..but now im way more relaxd and accepting of the controlled enviroment so things should work out…!!
that jailhouse tape just released in the past few days is sickening to say the least! It shows c&g trying to walk on egg shells (again) and dance around M! M is the SNOT NOSED LITTLE BRAT!!!! I’d like to slap her upside the head……just let me at her!
mtc….ur post about the c and her germ infested hands made me laugh!
Good afternoon guys! Kudos to those of u putting ur kids 1st, takes effort when working to pay attention, pat urselfs on the back. Many parents don’t realize the importance of making their kids matter. Even if it’s a brownie or a dirty burger, it’s really how it makes a child feel, & they do have feelings.
Lulu, I’m sorry if I hurt ur feelings when I said ‘bite ur tongue’ in relation to u saying ‘what if m walks’, I was joking after just watching M’s latest tape & knew u were hypothesizing so didn’t mean anything by it.
M quoting the bible, in my experience people like her quote how they want to be treated,
love they neighbor= love me
share what u have = don’t get pissed when u realize I stole, consider it sharing
give unto others- gimme gimme gimme
She was also miserable reading her bible that day, go figure.
She is one of those who abuses the kindness of others, they will never do what they preach to u.
Timbit,
Are they doing it for future monies coming from selling things, books, interviews, film/story rights, etc.? The “Scheme Team” doesn’t need more publicity do they? They are already famous. Ol’ BOZO needs it big time, out of law school only 3 years! Didn’t he sell an interview or something already? Said “I did it for my fee.” Motely Crew!
What do you think Tim? Can’t be doing it out of the goodness of their hearts, can they? Strange strange case isn’t it, headed by the strange BOZO. Anybody ever see “The Caine Mutiny”, where the Captain was a real sick man? Captain Queeg?
Really a great black and white film. Captin BOZO at the helm!
All this talk about Chili, I decided I’m going to make a pot now.
Later …
the first few minutes of that tape watching m giggle and laugh like a two year old is dispicable! (spell check). I just wanna smack that grin off her freaking face!
m2c~i watched that repulsive vidio again she did say she was reading the bible..obviously it isnt helping her any..g states that they arent gonna release this one thats why we got a look at the real m..spoiled self centred brat!!!when c tells her they dont have the $$ to bond her she says they didnt take the oppertunity when it came(snottly) and why the heck does g keep thanking her for picking him barf…notice she doesnt want to visit with lv cuz hell interogate her about caylee and m will domonate the conversation…she has to be center of attention, and after they have come to see her and put up with all sorts of shi* she tells them this is the frustrated she been yet…not frustrated her childs gone…even i jail she throws a temper tantrum what a b**** i couldnt watch past the bible stuff she is one selfish brat if ive ever seen one b4!!! the whole family makes me want to barf!!!
I will be back later. Have a couple of errands to run.
CHSAH, dispicable always makes me think of the cartoon character, was it sylvester (sp)
When was the last time anyone here was so mad they couldn’t swallow? That threw me for a loop, but I do think I can recall somewhere in my memory being mad & it hurting to swallow, or I could of been so sad, or even a sore throat??
I would have kicked her @$$…or let my wife do it (if the day care worker were a girl, of course).
Kind of unrelated…but, my wife was telling me about when she and my daughter went to church (I couldn’t go, I had to work) and 2 older girls were picking on my daughter and trying to trip her…totally pi$$ed me off. Our daughter is at an age where she is so sweet, she likes to share and is caring of others. Hurts to think that anyone would hurt her…
Hey I see all my buddies are here!
M must not have had MUCH trouble swallowing…..she has SURE put on the weight and her jail “commodities” list continues to grow with all sorts of “junk” food! Sore throat my a**………maybe from one too many bj’s maybe!!!!!
ok, gotta go! lol…bbl
Hey C~A….gotta go girl but will be back later!
Anna, I wasn’t sure what missed opportunity she was referring to, C having her arrested or G losing the fam fortune? Either way both r to put guilt on them imo. What nerve does it take to know u’ve killed ur child & now r expect ur parents to indebt themselves finacially after all the other $ u’ve stolen. She’s her own piece of work, I’ve never seen anyone to this degree of selfishness.
C~A DORK
c~a@3:16 YEA for you sittrs are suppose to follow moms instructions…glad you got kids out hate people who are mean to kids…you can always tell a good person its the one all the kids like and not because they give them stuff or let them get away with everything..kids can tell a good and sincere person!
Hey C~A, how ru doing this almost evening?
Did u finish the vid of ms evil? C&G should be so proud watching her on the t.v today, not to mention she has her own catagory bar on most local FL news sites, how proud they must be.
Betty1 at 4:21
I’m not following you. What are you referring to when you ask…”Are they doing it for future monies….”
Was this in reference to something I had posted? I’m confused.
anna:) I totally agree-kids can be pretty “on the money” about who is a sincere and good person” I know my kids have picked off creeps on more than one occasion. They can’t always explain why they feel someone is creepy, but they know they are.
If she has no one else to comfort her is that her way of saying she’s now a master baiter?
sorry, couldn’t help myself there!!!
Jrs..
silly!!
C~A where the heck have you been….work?
we always knew m was a selfish skank but the video takes the cake and shes in jail imagine how she was at home with those temper tantrum!!!! when she threatened to leave c&g should have…i probably would have that was ridiculuos
wonder if she gives guards a show shes in a see thru cell…ewww….
hi guys…geez…on the phone…etc…
Jr. - hey girly ~ I have not had a chance to finish watchin that new vid…I will get to it but have to take my Gravol first..
hi pickles… yup i am a dork…
I know Anna, I hope her jailhouse debuts don’t hit the internet, I draw the line at those vid’s!
Hey Pickles, my best friend growing up to now is a fiery redhead, if any1 ever messed w/ me they had to go thru her. Her mom’s hair is the lucy ball color so she’s always been known as red.
CASEY ANTHONY: Let me speak for a second dad. I have let everybody talk.
**********
another lie!
My entire life has been taken from me. Everything has been taken from me. You don’t understand. Everybody wants me to have answers. I do not have any answers because I do not know what is going on.
************
The souless skank does not even consider what she has done! NOt for a second…what she has taken away…OMG
LOL C~A, I have 5 valiums left & I’m saving them for the trial or another true bombshell. Thought my gall bladder was going to bust last night watching the vid.
M showed herself on this one, no nicey nicey for the viewers. When my one son was on dope in his teens that is how he acted, except we weren’t G&C, he did have to leave cuz I wouldn’t tolerate that sh~t & he straightened up real damn quick when we put him out.
I see where he leaned at being just like M, probably part of what wigged me out when watching her. Maybe it’s normal teens to a degree & this out of control left unattended though my other 2 didn’t do it to even close to his degree which isn’t close to her’s.
The out right lies/how dare u ? me/no one listens to me/it’s ur fault cuz..fill in the blank here!
Anna if C&G had started walking away from her temper tantrums years, apparently many years, before I think it would of curbbed the problem, maybe not cured it but she would have atleast understood that she had to live by there rules not they live by hers… wait.. r we trying to reason w/ an Ant?? They obv did tow the mark for her, prob ask how high when she said jump!
The minute she said ‘my life has been taken away’ C~A I thought DID U HEAR URSELF, poor ms evil, no big deal that she took Caylee’s life away but how dare the Queens life be halted in any fashion.
BTW I love my son to death & worried so much every day & night that those days seem like a foggy dream, but I did it for his own good. He was old enough to know good from bad. It was his choice & right to take drugs & destroy his life, it was my choice not to afford it or witness it. It is tough not knowing if they’re hungry or cold & I broke many x’s & took him $ not because he called or asked but because I hunted him down w/ worry. I finally thought of how much tougher it would be to bury him.
LOL, I’m talking to myself now, going to leave & cook dinner before I pee on the floor
You all have to love this…I just heard on Mike Galanos’ show that this most damning of videos the so called lost one was forced to be shown by Bobo because he feels it is somehow police misconduct that it was not shown. I am sure that he is reffering to the portion when M says that the next time the police don’t treat her with respect she will not tell them anything. Wait until the jury sees this video, a portrait of a mother who cares nothing for her child, she does not even call her by her name she just says all I want is to get my kid back. Wow!!!
Hello ladies and gents..my peeps!!
Capy, on red heads..
I have hazel eyes.. sometimes blue…sometimes green.. sometimes brownish.. Yeah,very weird lol
G E E1 , during those Jail,H talks , had i have been in C&Gs shoes I would have been so relieved to see her (Casey)the scum bag in there ,to get rid of that defiant b—h ,
I feel the parents were terrified of her ,she was probably a holy tyriant at home ,
possibly since she was old enough to control, she probably had a terrible temper , couldn’t reason with her, had to handle her with Kid gloves ,wanted all her way or NO way,,, had to agree with every thing she said,
Even George looks soo relaxed , Cindy is crying with happiness , probably trying to ravel in her mind / did she do this ?or not ?
BUT she wouldn’t want to add fuel to the flame by asking her ,,,, I’m sure they knew while she was in the Pen… the Car (smell) the pants 30 days partying , she always had an excuse about Caylee according to Cindy.
But who knows,
time will Tell ,it will be all oncovered
Saluki - That may be the reason PLUS at the very end M said “I’m a victim!”
I wish she was!!!!! LOL!
Maybe she will be one day! Too too (not) bad.
Lilred - purdy, purdy. I bet your eyes change depending on what color you wear.
Hope you will feel better soon. It doesn’t seem fair that nice people have to have pain.
Get Pickles in here; get her wound up and she’ll make you laugh and feel better. She has brightened up some of my down times.
Saluki - Do you think they will let some of these tapes into trial. I hope I say this right: they might say they are not admissible in court.
They better put a spring on Bobo’s chair, because I can just see him jumping up and down objecting to every thing coming out of the prosecutors mouth.
Hi Tim!
Boy I have so much to learn about “blogging”. I see the “times are so important. I think I am so angry at the Dream Team, pro bono, volunteering
(mentioned at 2:30PM) I immediately thought of them, the BIGGIE VOLUNTEERS! I meant they will get theirs, big time, I would bet - down the road. Maybe you meant civilians?
Now… cute stories about being a red-head, 1:59PM. Bet your son is really cute! Love red heads. Wish we could share pictures. I got sun poison when age 6, told my family NO MORE BEACH for me!! Even had to get the Dr. And I didn’t in spite of my Gram having a house down the shore!
And your post of 2:38PM - right on the money I think. She knows NOTHING of life, only the life of a spoiled, rotten QUEEN who has her STAFF of many! Disgusting isn’t it? Just what did C think she was raising? What kind of WIFE could this creature make for any nice man? Worse yet, what kind of mother… IN 5 min. Jane V.M.
I think part of what you quoted M as saying in the latest jail tape, CA, is really very telling. She said, “I do not have any answers because I do not know what is going on.”
See, she needs to know “what is going on” in order to make up “answers” and stuff to say!
More lies of course! She can’t flounder around making up lies in a vacuum! She needs a context for her lies. Like if she knew what LE was saying she could make up a lie to respond. That is because she cannot tell the truth! The truth stands by itself! No matter “what is going on.”
To all the redheads on this blog: You all sound like such wonderful mamas to your kids.
BEST CHRISTMAS BOOK especially for any child, especially those with red hair, and any adults who’ll listen is….
The Red Ranger Came Calling
by Berkeley Breathed
I’ve read it to hundreds of children and the main character is a red-haired boy who has had a hard life, is staying with his aunt, and is a true Christmas wish story…but a true story that has proof. If you liked the Christmas Story about the BB gun, you’ll love this book.
Floridian, hurrying here but will try to answer your post about the Brownies. Little one, didn’t like the food at the Day Care. Didn’t eat. There was a Birthday party … brownies. THEY WITHHELD a Brownie from this little one (18 mo. old?) to punish her I guess, because she didn’t eat her food.Close … but maybe no CIGAR! I tried.
BREAKING my newly learned rule. But JANE IS on now. Want to catch her … sorry.
my2cents - I think you’re right on the money about Kronk being a good guy, glad he’s persistent. And that I’m a victim garbage…from her? Sickening, I agree.
Sheller! M’s view of herself and the world must be thru a carni’s “house of mirrors” or something. Remember she said she was arrested on a whim? I couldn’t believe that!
LE sat and talked with her (at Universal) and had proved all of her lies!!! It’s incomprehensible! But, heck, her lies worked all her life. Why doesn’t LE just cower and retreat like her parents do? Must be really perplexing for her.
Her line about sitting in jail and then “What have I learned from that?” Like this was all a big attempt from sin to teach her a lesson?
That first phone call, “Just get me Tony’s number.” would have gotten her a dial tone from me.
*TaP*TaP*TaP*….
MTC - yo got mail!
Sheller - 6:57 post..
Hey, that sounds like a good book. My grandbaby also has red hair..
she is just beautiful!!!! Anyone wanting to see a pic of her e-mail me
at ldyofleisure4@charter.net….. seriously!!! Can you tell I am a proud
grandma!!!! She has beautiful hazel eyes.. very big. She reminds me alot
of Caylee… Maybe that is why this case hits so close to my heart…
not once in any of the videos has m ever asked first what was happining with the investigation in finding caylee nothing like “any news on caylee” nothing ever that would be my first words so if the jury gets to see and hear all we have they will only see one self centred b**** as for the bs of getting her out so she could help! help how run le to fusion??? heck she didnt help b4 what would change now!!! gee she makes me sick!!!
Capy…
Yup, my eyes do change with the color of clothes I wear… weird…
Thanks for the well wishes.. I too hope I feel better, I am getting
on my own nerves!!!
nite all.. cu tomorrow, have a good night
xoxo
so if c hadnt reported caylee missing what do you suppose m would be doing??? shots and on stripper pole she really thought she was one hot b****!
sheller…I would have shown her door too! Your funny…when cristina said if anything happened to that baby she would just die…and maggot said what a waste calling them was…that would have been it for me…ba bye
lil you got mail…i want to see your baby….I get on my own nerves too sometimes but it’s mostly others that do that job really much better then me…but that was funny
Yah, can’t keep my mouth shut tonight…
I TRULY believe all parents/grandparents on this blog love their children
so deeply that this case saddens us all to the core.. to us it is just
incomprehensible that anyone would hurt an innocent child… especially
their own child.. Sometimes it is a cruel world out there, and the normal people like us try so hard to understand this that is just so horrific ..
ok, lilred steps off her soapbox..
nitey nite
watching ng…she maggot says…I can’t say anything to you guys except I love you …cause i dont want to give then anyting to throw back at me….
(CLEARS THROAT)…how does helping find your childs abductor/murderer have anything to do with you casey? These words are coming from a guilty person…If she was innocent she would be singing like a bird on everything…but no she is more concerned for herself..not her child…not once
She hates Caylee the only thing she is afraid of is talking to much and sinking her own ship
Ok guys…lookin at this and other vids of this cold hearted snake…bottom line…
she cracks a smile at every opportunity if it is directly a compliment towards her and caylee is not mentioned….how in f’s name can she manage to crack a smile
What she wants us to believe is ..
Her life is taken away,she is in jail on murder one…her child is dead….and she can still manage to try to control ..play the victim and smile…
So much money is spent beyond this incredible display of guilt…to defend….I just don’t get it…
ANY MOTHER WHO IS IN JAIL AN INNOCENT WHOS CHILD IS MURERED AND GONE FOREVER…DOESN’T SMILE…DOESNT’ DEMAND SHE BE LOOKED AT AS A VICTIM…DID YOU GUYS SEE HER RAGE…THAT SCARED ME! WE ALL HAVE IT…AN ANGER OR OUTBURSTS IN FRUSTRATION BUT WE DON’T KILL OUR CHILDREN…WE JUST ONLY GET ANGRY SO FAR…MAGGOTT DIDN’T HAVE A CUT OFF POINT.
Holy Crap!
You know after watching NG and the video earlier today. C & G not only look totally Valiumed out but that their body language says to me they know Casey is guilty. KWIM? Anyone else see this?
Any mother who is sitting in jail innocent would be begging for everyone to keep searching. Pleading to her family what are you doing here visiting me you all should be searching!!!!!!!!!! I can’t do anything sitting in jail sniff sniff…I made so much progress when I was searching on my own for that first month! Please mama make her stop!
Yeah wow she’s a piece of work!
Yep I think they knew darn well that she did something awful!
C~A… your comment about her smiling…I would like to add that everytime I see that video of her in court making goo goo eyes at Bozo, it just makes me throw up in my mouth a little every freakin time!
Sorry I have been MIA with nothing to blogg about lately. Then I watch NG and that video and get all fired up!
Watching this video was as disturbing as watching Scott peterson plead with the media to only focus there attention on Laci.
This is a joke. These parents can’t even moment Caylee with out M getting outraged.
Plus, the link between Dominic Casey and M is clear from this video. C mention to M that BB is in New york, and if M needs someone to talk to she can trust Dominic. There the chain link we need.
yea I’d say G knew for a fact & was resolved w/ what he needed to do. C knew but still seemed to be asking for some confirmation for her own self w/o it being obvious to others.
Capy ur Holy Crap post leaves me hanging as to what ur referring lol!!
I can see that Jan nor Simon have put out any new articles. I also see no other comments on the articles that have been posted. Humm.
I guess we still have topic to discuse with the Caylee case.
Hi all just checking in ..hope everyones well
saw this thought id share
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) — Weeks after the remains of missing toddler Caylee Antony were found, t-shirts bearing her likeness and asking for information on her whereabouts are still being sold.
The place? The MySpace website set up by the Anthony family shortly after Caylee went missing. The website said it was updated on January 13th.
The message says that in response to folks who want bracelets and shirts from the search for Caylee there are some left and they are for sale. All you have to do is write a check to the Anthony’s.
full story at
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8266959&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
Allie your link idea is pretty brilliant!
OMG….Casy thinks her life has been taking away…What about mine…I have been obsessed for 6 months on this case. Glued to NG and internet…My butt is starting to spread..my house is in shambles and all she can do is think about herself! LOL…
everything she says & does says ‘Caylee’s dead’. Talking about ‘her trial’ when there’s a search going on, I hope C&G get hit for fraud though u can’t prove what someone knew.
And I swear when she’s talking about not being able to do nothing in jail but sit around on her butt she says ‘breeding’ not ‘reading’ & I’ve listened to it a few x’s & it always sounds like breeding??
flippen…too funny!
Jrsfarm-I’m glad you said that about breeding-that’s what I thought too!!!
Hi every one, If your mom told you your baby may have drown, if you didnt know better, you would FREEK-OUT!!! Not m she smiles and says “It figures”. But ants still says she did nothing wrong.I never seen any one like these people.
You guys must have pretty super sonic hearing. I never caught breeding…Thats funny.
Ohhhhh I thought I saw for a minute a very telling thing! It was when the phone moved from her face, M clenched her fists and **SHOOK them** fast and hard, as if she was CHOKING someone, furiously! Her face was contorted with ANGER and RAGE! Maybe she choked Caylee? There is always a tiny bit of truth in everything sickie queen does/says. Did anybody see that?
My2C .. this was the tape I was speaking about,on NG. I hope you saw it. There are at least 3 more re-runs of NG tonight. Here in OR she is on 5PM, 7PM, 10PM and midnight. Anybody know when Jane is on? I know here at 4PM .. ha, and saw her one night at 2AM-rerun. Anymore?
Now we know why she woke up SWEATING in bed with Tony, at least twice I think. Just fear … that’s all it was - fear of being caught!
Love it when C brings it back to Caylee, and M HAS TO agree and say… “And that’s ALL I WANT too,is for Caylee to come home!”(Mimicing normal responses, as Sociopaths do.) Also love their priority games. “Caylee is most important, then comes you ..” How SICK are these D**N people? AND “YOU are the BOSS, THE CEO, BOZO works for you, we work for you, the Police work for you…” GOOD LORD!
m sure FREAKS out when pressured for answers to normal questions. TRAPPED RAT eh? I hope this becomes accumlative, and that she is much worse, even 6 months from now. No strutting these days!
It has been my experance pepole who need to controle others, have no self controle imo.
LSJ,
I feel the same way. I have never heard of a story like this. CRAZY..
TB, I think its what she says, had my husband listen he thought breeding as well. I wondered if freudian slip- i.e. in jail for 30 days, prob her longest w/o being ‘comforted’ & she might have been in heat lol!
Allie, I didn’t realize that was the same Dominic they were talking about, why would a pi be a choice for someone to talk to?? I thought maybe it was another atty in BB’s office named Dominic.
Betty I only knew JVM came on once??
Flip- go turn up the volume & listen
Yeah Betty I picked up on rage…Anything with that nutso is totally possible,
allie@ 8:54pm Don’t understand your post.
You’re tired of commenting on the Caylee case?
I think there are tons of articles on other subjects on BNN and elsewhere.
If you are referring to comments under other articles sometimes there are lots of readers but few comments. I think THIS is a case that draws more commenters than a lot of other subjects do. I’ve noticed that on a lot of other blogs and web sites and news org’s boards.
LSJ said,in January 16th, 2009 at 9:15 pm “It has been my experance pepole who need to controle others, have no self controle imo”
Probably very true! This vid reminded me of the Twilight Zone show ( Shan & XOXO will laugh at this ) the one where the town was afraid of making the kid mad, they had to all think good thoughts or he put them in the corn field. C&G seem to have the same kind of fear of M, as if she can somehow effect their world w/ her special powers.
allie said,in January 16th, 2009 at 8:52 pm Watching this video was as disturbing as watching Scott peterson plead with the media to only focus there attention on Laci.
ISN’T THAT THE SAME THING MAGGOT SAID TO SIN AND GRINCH…SOUNDS LIKE LAWYER TALK TO ME!
flippen…i hear ya loud and clear…I have gained at least 15 lbs…and yes, i could go work out but I might miss something…especially when we were still searchin for baby caylee….I couldn’t miss a minute of the updates and news…waiting waiting…where is she…why can’t we find her…the crazy addictivness…its not our fault…but we are left with the need for new clothes…
sounds like the tapes will be in court so thats good, cuz no jury will be able to not convict w/ those displays of the cold hearted b~tch.
I do just fine on eating til I read what Lilred is having, I had to have a Payday earlier
Yeah I can’t believe the defense wanted that particular video released for their case. I don’t think its going to help them though. Quite the opposite..
I don’t know what they were looking for, police misconduct?? Yep, seems to have backfired on them.
which vid is this…i totally missed this defense request and why? Is it cause maggot says something about respecting her??? thats a f’ing joke if they think that statement from a known liar is going to do anything for them..they stop at nothing ridiculous
With the dreamteam on board, I’m not so quick to believe that BB blew it. Their reasoning for wanting this released may not be apparent right now, but I bet it isn’t a mistake-they’ve got something up their sleeve.
I went back and watched the video again, ticked me off all over again. Are these parents acting spineless because they still want to be seen as ozzie and harriet?
All that oh, kilr, are you eating? how’s things? if you would be so kind as to request to talk to us? Little Miss High and Mighty…please grace us with your emotion. Gag.
Real parents, in control, would be saying, “You can’t talk on camera? We understand. Well arrange a meeting with us quickly, because this has gone on long enough. The sheriff and fbi said it can be arranged. You can’t give us, your parents, some answers now, tell you what sweetie, we’ll be back after the trial to pick you up if you need a ride. Just give us a call.” Then walk out of there.
It’s a shame they didn’t do that earlier. They could have taken the car, driven her to work, made her face the consequences for the petty larceny, quit tiptoeing around her “anger” issues. Prancing around her highnesses emotions cost Caylee her life.
Were they afraid to allow natural consequences follow her actions? If you lie, we don’t believe you. You have to earn trust. You steal, you get arrested, you make restitution, you don’t ever do it again.
Were they afraid it might look bad to the neighbors? All their free tickets to Universal?
What idiots. For the mother to sit their and crybaby instead of saying, “There’s nothing more we can do for you, sorry. You won’t help yourself. Good luck. You’re in the drivers seat now, happy motoring.” Their emotions in this whole thing are either fake or insane. It is just beyond explanation.
Kids do something stupid, wrong, criminal, parents don’t sit there and oh poor baby, wish I could take away your pain. They say, boy you did a really bad thing. How are you planning to deal with it? What are YOU going to do now? Either you have to fix it or deal with the consequences.
OH, I caught the breed comment, too. She probably thought it was a high class way of pronouncing READ. Don’t preach to anyone kilr, you haven’t been practicing long enough.
Sorry guys, I haven’t been this angry all day….DO I GET A STICKER FOR CONTROLLING MYSELF. It’s just that I’m so frustrated.
Sheller…Well said
You get a sticker-ah what the heck, you get 2
you know if m get outraged in just a visit..could you immagine if she had to take the stand…c~a your right her RAGE is down right scary!!! hopefully caylee was asleep and didnt have to deal with the rage at the end!!:( its horribl just thinking about it!!!
Slap myself on the hand, too long, too long a blog. sorry
JrsFarm
Jane VM comes on here in OR at 4:00PM and I woke up one night at 2:00AM. Put on the same station where Nancy is on… THERE was Jane VM. Maybe I will try it every so often tonight, while I am awake to see if I can find other times.
Can you tell I am retired? YEAA! I MADE IT! Shhh won’t tell how many years, but did retire early.
TimBit agreed.IF BOZO was alone I might think some stupid mistake as he always used to make. But with them on board … something is rotten in Denmark. I believe too, this sneaky crew knows what they are doing. OH I WISH Nancy Grace was still a Prosecutor. Did she ever lose a case? Here comes re-run Nancy. Think I will watch it.
Speaking of her rage:
Remember when the neighbor said that he had heard 2 different arguments between C and M back in June?
He commented at that time that M was yelling and C was staying calm.
I bet it was the same scenario as in the jail, with M raging and C tippytoeing around her so as to placate her.
That is probably the regular pattern of interaction and the A’s have been avoiding this kind of confrontation for years.
Tim Bit - If they go for insanity defense, uncontrollable rage, her comment about how she was keeping it under control, like there was a history of this….you’re right, it may be what they have up their sleeve. The parents choosing Caylee over her…hmmm. Could be.
i dont condone child abuse/killing but if m would admit her guilt and at least appologise or show some sort of remorse or emotion…but she doesnt she doesnt even show concern for her child its like to her caylee didnt even exsist…thats the way she wanted it…it would be easier to look /hear her as of now even seeing her face and her voice even makes me sicker!!! wonder if c&g have seen these vidiios and if they can see what thier daughter is really like!!! and is bb suppose to be showing her episodes of ng???
id like to slap the shi* out of that bit** OMG!!!!!!!!
wasnt the big deal suppose to be that she was AFRAID to talk for fear of what might happen to caylee or her family???? didnt sound that way to me…did it sound like that to any one else????
Sheller,
Ya, I was thinking along those lines too. the other thing that jumped out at me was her choosing G as the one she wanted to speak with. she made some reference about it being longer since she had had a relationship with him than the others.Wasn’t quite sure what that meant, but wondered if she thought that might make him more willing to help her. Again, maybe some dark secret involving G, and the lawyers are going to try to spin that for her defense.
There had to be something in that video they thought was important enough to risk the world seeing what a minipulative jerk she was being.
I don’t believe for a second that M was reading the Bible on Caylee’s birthday or any other day. She is simply feeding her parents more lies so she can continue being the puppeteer manipulating her puppets.
In this last released video you can hear M use every conniving tactic she can think of to gain control and power over her parents. M uses guilt, belittling, scolding, blaming to shame them in to thinking “If you don’t take care of me, something bad is going to happen and it will be all your fault.” In order to gain their sympathy she claims it hurts to swallow, she’s frustrated, her eyes are red and she’s getting sick. She even uses the scare tactic on them by threatening to get up and leave if they don’t listen to her. This is all part of her manipulation and C&G seem to surrender to her power.
I’ve read with manipulation there is a physica heightened level of anxiety and/or irritation… M certainly fills that description in the video?
Incase u don’t know but want to get a good look at the fat puch ( as someone else referred to him & I concur ) GRETA has BB, who says M has been mis painted blah blah, gonna post this so u can watch
TimBit - I was thinking she wanted to talk to G because it was G who was sticking to the “truth” as far as the smell and stuff.
I have to check the dates because I’m not sure what he said when or what BB and her would KNOW he said to LE or FBI at that point.
The defense might have realized that he was the “weak link.” I know in the media G looked like he was defending M but to the cops he was being much more revealing about M.
And/or M did not want to be “interrogated” by Leevil or be over-talked by C. She wanted an AUDIENCE who would just listen to more of her lies, excuses and pleas to bail her out. So she probably thought he was the best bet for that.
Hey everyone! MMT…..good comment, right on target! A very good analysis of the content of the whole video, summed up nicely in a short paragraph! kudos to you!
TimBit - The only thing I can see in the video that the defense would like is M saying “I’m a victim.” Gosh knows that’s the ONLY time I’ve ever heard that word used in connection with her! LOL!
Nancy Grace ask ever night where is caylee? Jesus came and took her with him,he loved her more than anyone,he knew the things that were happening,he could not stand for his baby ANGEL to suffer anymore so he took her sweet soul to a far better place,where she is loved and wanted!She will be one of his sweetest ANGELS and her sunshine will never be taken away again, what a sweet little singer with so much feeling beautiful now she will sing for JESUS ever day in his land of milk and honey.You were sent down a gilf from GOD but sometimes they get sent to the wrong house and GOD has to do a recall, laugh be happy sweet dreams baby girl because JESUS HAS YOU INSIDE HIS GOLDEN GATES where no harm will ever come to you again! THANK YOU GOD FOR BEING THERE FOR CAYLEE WHEN SHE NEEDED YOU THE MOST! and THANK YOU FOR HELPING ME !
Thanks CHSAH… I can’t listen to one more word out of BB’s mouth defending his lying, murdering client. How about you?
m2c~omg you have it g is the only one somewhat truthfull with le…thats why shed want to talk to only him…there was the person who also saw her jogging in the area caylee was found, she denied it when he asked her but when she was arrested its the one of the only people she called….why??? to change thier minds…..to minuipulate them to believe her…….
TimBit, I’m not sure, but G didn’t feel she’d been working for two years, he felt that. I think sin was the real enabler. “Oh G, shut up, she’s working.” Sin’s remarks to that guy about kilr paying his son with a hot check, “It was only that one time.” I think the mom probably got a charge out of being able to say kilr was an “event planner”. She’s right mother and daughter are alot alike. G just got to be the out of work, suspicious, guy in the house who was seeing through kilr’s actions and sin wouldn’t listen.
I think sin chose kilr word over anyones. Best friends (in her brain) don’t lie to each other. sin gives me the feeling that she wakes up in a different emotional world herself every day. Probably supermom one day, supergrandma the next, and frustrated martyr the next.
I don’t believe there were ever any improper advances on G or lvl part. kilr doesn’t seem like someone who ever would have allowed herself to be a victim..even as a kid…she would have had them in jail so fast. No I don’t believe that ever happened. JMO
Conway lying his ass off now says large % of people support ants, small % of haters, BSSSSS.
& HOORAY for the people who put up the memorial board & all the toys still there!!
I get really angered when I watch that jailhouse video and then you see the little video of sweet little innocent Caylee giggling. M is the epitomy of ALL evil!
mytwocents -u r right on the money for kilr choosing g - good one.
2cents
Ha Ha It may be the last time you hear the word in connection with her too, unless you are right about the defence wanting that statement from her. If that is the case, maybe they are trying to go from the defense angle that LE botched the investigation and treated her unfairly.
If so, they would sure have to fight to keep a lot of her behavior out of the court records. do I hear “Objection!!!) every 2 minutes throughout the trial?
oops! Therapist I called you by your old namel! lol……didn’t even notice it until I was reading it again! lol.
THAT tape just literally makes me sick to watch……c&g NEVER were able to stand up to her! and they STILL can’t even when she’s behind bars! If that bi*** was my child, she’d be glad she was in jail on a tv screen because I’d smack her into reality! lol…
Said the police were at the ants today but wouldn’t comment about why, well good maybe the walls r closing in.
I don’t know how the attys can say the media is painting anything, they have said it all on video.
Gretas doing a good show tonight, hope u can catch the rerun, I think it plays again in a couple of hours. Can’t believe BB still thinks he has defense!
Sorry to hit & run, my daughters here & they laughed that I had to come tell ya’ll to watch Greta. Will bbl & catch up reading.
CHSAH, you’re right about M… I guess we shouldn’t be surprised by any of her evil actions or anything she says or does from here on end because if someone is capable of committing murder than lying or anything else means absolutely nothing to them.
MTC….good point on her wanting to talk to G!!!! I never thought about it like that!
Can someone please clarify something for me?
regarding the sunshine Law- I understand that if the Prosecution puts info out there for Discovery, that it is then in the public domain.
Is this also true if the defense puts something forward in Discovery, or can the defense keep their cards close to their chest until the last minute?
CHSAH that’s okay… I didn’t notice it either. I go by either for my old pal! LOL
I agree with you, C&G are weak parents. I’ve gotten angrier with one of my kids for simply misplacing a pair of scissors.
G..on being chosen by kilr for the visit…”Why thank you, thank you very much?” WTF? It’s not an award G.
Therapist, exactly. M’s comment on the tape about “you guys want me to have a 1,000 answers and no one can see my side on this”……NO M…..We just want ONE answer and that is what did you do to Caylee! AND ALL THIS WHINING on the tape and she knew she was being bonded out by Padilla at the time! GRRRRRR………I’m all riled up about that bi*** again! lol…
Sheller, that was a good one! lol….(award)…omg, you’d have thought he was accepting a grammy! lol.
Betty, saw your way earlier blg about pulling over for funeral processions. It’s done here in the M.W. I thought that custom was Universal. (excuse the pun) Isn’t it?
Does anyone know what C was referring to on the video when she told M that she went to (can’t remember the city name) today and M goes “yeah?”…..what was that about?
Sins attempt at code talk for more directions? Backed off at anger from kilr.
Sheller, midwest? What state? I think it is suppose to be the custom everywhere, but it is another “respectful duty” that seems to have gotten lost in our country today.
M was double talking and putting words together in that video that didn’t even make sense.
I have to run, I’m baby sitting my grandkids tonight and I just put them to bed and one is calling me.
I LOVE watching them!
Sheller, great post!
I don’t see how you could have made it shorter.
Kansas
CHSAH
I don’t know if the city or place had any actual relevance to why she started to get mad.It may have just been a random place C visited in the search. I think it was the turning point in the conversation because M realized C was going to start grilling her for info about Caylee and her possible whereabouts again, and M didn’t wanna go there.
I may be way off though..anyone else know anything about this place?
tryin
Sheller, could be? She asked M if there was something she should know and M got all defensive and feathers in a dander and stopped C right in her tracks!
I was laughing when M started whining about how c&g blew their “chance” to get her out of jail! waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaa…C tells them that they didn’t have the money to get her out and m didn’t want to hear it! waaaaa…..waa….
Nite therapist!!! Fun time! I love watching my grandkids too!
what blown chance? she want them to write a check? Oh, while she had Amy’s checkbook! lol
C telling her they didn’t have the money was the first real parent comment I’ve heard from them. Course it was only one.
Timbit, that makes sense! That must have been what it was. Thanks
Sheller…KANSAS….ahhhhhhh….my birthstate! GO JAYHAWKS! I’m originally from Nebr!
Sheller, (post about Funerals) Back home in PA the only thing I can remember is if part of the funeral procession goes thru a green light, if it turns red, everyone stops and lets the entire procession go thru. Where you are, all cars pull to the side of the road and wait/watch? Not red lights - required?
God I had an ounce of wine tonight… for my heart. It NEEDED IT tonight!
Supposed to be good for the heart I think… but NOT for the writing! 
also i believe m’s reading the bible as much as i believe publishers clearinghouse is gonna come to my door with the BIG check,roses& champaine!!!
Dorothy, toto, wheat, Little House…sort of insulated from all the goings on in this big world. No clubfushions where I live.
Sheller so true (real parent comment)! And it STILL went over M’s head and she acted like she could careless!
I have never been on a blog before this case. Wonder why I keep coming back month after month…its the humor.
pickles with the nazi day care provider
sheller with the good girl stickers
mytwocents going back to her prayer book to stop plotting ways to frushtrate M
CA comparing PIs and psychics with missing phone records to toddlers with chocolate on their faces denying they took the cupcake.
It is just incredibly funny.
Or its the Pumlin recipe.
I am lying here trying to recover from surgery and you guys make me laugh.
Here in Ks., everyone pulls over for a funeral procession and you wait until the entire procession in past before you pull out onto the road. They all drive with their lights on, a police car usually leads the procession to the cemetary. I guess in the lands of 4 lanes or 8 lanes, maybe it isn’t done anymore. It’s a sign of respect, like standing up when the US flag goes by in a parade or they play the National Anthem.
Sheller said,in January 16th, 2009 at 10:59 pm Dorothy, toto, wheat, Little House…sort of insulated from all the goings on in this big world. No clubfushions where I live.
ohhhhh Sheller, and I bet ALOT less crime too! I miss the wheat fields….the cornfields….flatlands….REAL trees! lol…
Anna, WHAT?????? No publishers clearinghouse for you?????? Dang, does that mean my chances increase? LOL……LOVED YUR COMMENT! LOL…
Nightingale..
It is good therapy isn’t it. I have been layed out for 2 weeks as well-skiing accident- but these people have kept me sane.
Kinda served me right, actually..hadn’t skiied in about 15 years, and went up there without accounting for the fact that I am way out of shape.
Downside…I’m probably in worse shape now, after laying around for 2 weeks reading this blog…it’s amazing how quickly I adjusted to the change in lifestyle.Question is, how well will i adjust to going back to work next week.
This is my first time too Nightingale. We were both well, you know what they call first timers. Blirgins.
Nightingale, well surgery (sad for you) but our gain b/c you have time to spend in here with us! Hope your recovery goes well and hope it wasn’t your hands or fingers b/c that will make it harder for you to respond! lol.
Your summary of the blog today was cute!
No real trees where you are?
To night on NG some one said they took the dead snake to check it for some kind of evidence. I was wondering if any one understood what that was about? If so please help me understand. Thanks
Timbit….question is will the blog adjust without you as well! lol. Hope your recovery is speedy also. Skiing hmmmmm????? Admire your adventurous personality! I don’t get on anything that doesn’t have a “motor” behind it……..awwwwwwwww yes, as CIT put it….MY SNOWHORSE! (Snowmobile!)
Thanks CHSAH
I’m pretty sure I will not be back skiing any time soon. The sad thing is i was dragged there by my 78 year old stepfather, who is still an avid skiier.
Sheller….lots of redrock, tumbleweeds, coal mines, pine trees, oil fields, and rude people……oh yeah, that would be WYOMING! LOL…. we have some trees, just not like Kansas or Nebraska….we have a huge old (ugly) pine tree in our front yard. I keep hoping it blows down (away from the house of course)…..but noooooooooo, it is still there! lol..
TWB~@10:49 your a sweetie
Timbit……….ok well that IS pathetic! lol…..good for him! Wow….that is pretty amazing!
LSJ, I didn’t hear that but I missed a little bit of NG tonite. Anybody else catch that about the snake?
Night bloggers…been fun.
yep i was pretty sad at the realization they wernt gonna come myself!!!!
CHSAH my fingers and hands are intact. had bladder surgey 3 weeks ago. still have to spend half the day lying down flat. gets old.can only handle laptop which locks up every 15 seconds and I have one contact lense out because of scratched eye. I am mess.
Nightingale
Ooh!
How long does it take to recover from that kind of surgery? Hopefully not too long. Poor you!
Anna, but they might come????? I seen it in a vision…….ya see, I’m psychic!…I see a front door, a street, a car turning onto a street, balloons, something to do with money, (NOT! ) See…..even I can be a psychic! lol.
Nite sheller.
Nightingale…..ooooohhhh…..I bet that scratched eye hurts worse than the bladder surgery! lol. Poor thing…..Hope you get better soon.
did anyone else hear LSJ’s comment about the snake on NG tonite? I’m curious to what that was about?
recovery is up to 6 weeks. Can return to work sooner but it won’t feel normal for that long. that will make it just around trial time.
Keep the blog going it helps pass the time. this laptop toshiba is worthless. freezing up. one eyed wonder has to log off. night all. and thanks.
Sheller, very, very nice respectful tradition regarding the Funerals. I like traditions, and am thinking about “starting” a few myself!
So M murders Caylee so she can be with Tony who doesn’t want Caylee living there. Then, Tony drops murderer, like a HOT POTATO and won’t speak to her, nor her lawyer! Surprise, surprise Casey! I hope ms piggy thinks about that all day and night long. Poetic Justice.
G and C’s treatment of M, is used for young children, a Ph.D said, NOT for an adult. They they she is 3 too? They have done her a *great disservice* treating her like 3-4 year old. The proof of the pudding, is in the eating. Look at their “product”.
I am going to work out now, and forget this sick, sick family for the night. Thought about them a lot today, for some reason. Tomorrow, I guess, back to work in the house.
So many great thoughtful posts today. WHAT A GROUP!! ‘Nite all - sleep fast, it’s late - in the east.
Jrsfarm, post 9:19
Dominic, did work for BB before M was indicted in oct. If this jailhouse tape was recorded on the 14 of Aug, it could be the same Dominic that C refers to in her comment to M. But I could be wrong there is a lot of people named Dominic in Orlando, and maybe a different one in BB office.
Mtc, Its late tonight, but to comment on my early post that you responed to, It wasn’t meant the way you read it. This room has a lot of comments and I was hoping for a new article so my computer wouldn’t so slow. And also are you kidding, I live, breathe, and wait for any news about this case.
just checking and reading. Night…..
‘night nightingale
I’m sure this blog will long outlast your recovery time.
g’night Betty1
Seet dreams!
Thanks mjo, I hope some one else seen it.They said somthing about the contance of the snake, like I said I didn’t understand. Only snake I remember was a rattlesnake.
Sorry-didn’t see NG tonight, except for the last couple of minutes- didn’t see the snake part.
Are they possibly referring to the photograph taken by Kronk on his cellphone?
Thanks for reply, They sais sonthing about checking the contence of the snake. Like I said I didn’t understand. They didn,t say what snake. The onty snake I remember was the snake in the photo. Thats why I was hoping some one else saw it.
I guess we will have to wait to see, I’m sure it will come up again.
I just read that C and G are trying to sell the rest of the “Have you seen Caylee shirts”
on their website.
They are either DESPERATE for $$$, or they are truly sick. the person who manages their site said that she had put them on for sale ($10.00) at C’s request, but that it was not sitting well with some people (duh) and she was going to approach C to take them off.
Talk about being in bad taste, still hawking them after the poor little thing has been found dead. Unbelievable-I guess I still haven’t figured out that these people are really warped.
Tim … came down AGAIN! Wanted some applecider. NG is on again Tim, in 25 minutes. Can catch her there, and again, 2 hours later.
I am so sorry about your accident. OUCH!!! DARN. And we heal faster in the summer months, double darn.
Anyhow, ‘nite to you too. I HOPE you read this.
Later ….
And to you, Nightengale, I do hope you get better and will try to cheer you up whenever I can …
Here is a musician’s joke to cheer you.
Why do Bagpipers walk when they play?
To get away from the “sound”.
‘nite
I read somewhere that redheads have a lower threshold for pain tolerance than non redheads. Anyway a lot of my best relationships are with redheads, but I am not one of ‘em myself (I may have an inner redhead, who knows?).
Anybody know why the ants moved to Florida from Ohio?
Anybody want to buy some swamp land in Florida? I heard that the ants are trying to sell some! Snakes and squirrels optional on that land.
“Red hair is the phenotype for mutations of the melanocortin 1 receptor. Our results indicate that redheads are more sensitive to thermal pain and are resistant to the analgesic effects of subcutaneous lidocaine. Mutations of the melanocortin 1 receptor, or a consequence thereof, thus modulate pain sensitivity.”
source: http://www.pubmedcentral.nih.gov/articlerender.fcgi?artid=1692342
As for the psychics….did any of them speak up on September 10, 2001? I don’t think so….
Does anybody know if the results of the mental health evaluation done on M in July were made public?
There seems to be some rumour buzzing on Websleuths that something may go down tomorrow-possibly private memorial?
Their reasoning is that Geraldo was on Greta (fox) and that they seem to be a little pro-defense biast about the case, and that Greta is in florida right now.
They are figuring that they might have a heads up about something going to happen.
Also LE was back at the Ants again.C was asked if she was okay, and responded with NO. Again speculation on other sites that she may have found out she or another Ant was being denied
immunity.
g’night again Nightingale
Lulu-I don’t think the results were ever released publicly, but someone on T.V. at one point said that they had found some “psychopathic tendancies” but did not say where they got that.
Fact is, any one of us here could have confirmed that!
SNAKE ISSUE: Could they have collected the dead snake to look for any insects it may have eaten but not digested?
Nightingale - I’m so sorry you’re dealing with bladder surgery and an eye injury, and I’ll apologize in advance for LOL at your one-eyed comments. Your summary post of the day was great! You are cracking me down here in Texas!
Speaking of Texas, yes, even in the 4th largest city in the US, in Houston, all drivers pull to the side of the road, as sign of respect, to allow funeral processions to pass. And that includes 8-lane freeways! I had no idea this wasn’t a nationwide tradition.
VIDEO - Looks like we were all in agreement on the video. It hurts to watch a 22 year-old “CHILD” treat her parents so poorly. I’m haunted by two images. 1) Casey Anthony laughing outloud while Cindy Anthony weeps tears of sorrow for a precious child. 2) The look of sheer meanness when Casey Anthony rages at the parents who are desperately trying to help her and help Caylee.
… makes me think yet again about the very last look the world has of sweet Caylee. That look in her eyes when great-grandfather is holding her has always haunted me. Now, after seeing Casey’s fit of rage, all I can do is pray that the jury will indeed respond appropriately to the evil strategies of the defense team.
IMO, every single “expert” and so-called objective scientist who has agreed to help twist the truth (which scientists supposedly devote their lives to) deserves to spend eternity crying tears of regret on behalf of every victim they dishonored by their arrogant passion for fame and fortune.
**This time, I used their entire names, in the hopes that Casey (or any Ant) will someday read the comment when they google their names.
I just read that the concern about the snake is something about finding a rattlesnake, and for some reason,thinking that some of Caylee’s remains may be inside the snake.Then some mention of this being connected to the delay of the memorial service.
Sounds like a bunch of defense Bullcrp to me. We have rattlesnakes where I live (yes, Canada) and as far as I know they don’t eat dead things, and I have never heard of them doing anything like that-only live rodents etc.
Correct me if I’m wrong…Florida rattlesnakes may be a different type.
TimBit - See, she does it everytime!! Just as my compassion pours out for Cindy, she pulls something stupid like selling those t-shirts. That is way over the top AWFUL! Shame, shame, shame, Cindy Anthony.
Oh yeah–about m’s comment regarding C&G passing up chance to get her out of jail. I interpreted that as a reference to some offer someone made to C&G, such as funds for photos (the kind of offers they indeed later on DID agree to).
Makes me ill to know that she was bailed out of jail a week after this video. But at least it didn’t last long and she was finally arrested permenantly (hopefully!!!). And at least she pissed off Padillo so much that it sent him on a MISSION to help find justice for Caylee.
See yall this weekend! CHSAH - have you named your snowhorse yet?
Well said, Concerned in Texas!
Experts who twist things when they “know it aint so” are as bad as the defendants they are representing.
It’s too bad that our legal system has to be such a game.
That video of Caylee and Greatgrampa really tugs at my heartstrings as well. I wonder if that old man is aware of what is going on, and what his thoughts are.
TimBit ~ Sorry I missed your comment. As soon as I posted, I got a wild idea and at 1 am decided to bake homemade cinammon rolls from scratch! Oh, they’re smelling so good and will be ready in about 5 minutes! Yall come on down and help me eat ‘em! yumm yumm, and extra ones for pammy’s girl, to make up for her stolen brownie!
As a culture, we REALLY need to do something about this shift that has occurred with Defense strategies. Didn’t used to be this way. Originally, they defense attorneys’ jobs were to ensure that defendents’ rights were maintained. It’s outrageous what it has turned into. Shame on her Defense team.
You are all super people…thankyou for letting me share…sure hope Casey gets life in jail…Baez should be disbarred!…the person in Melbourne {Eastern Coast of Australia} who is putting money in Casey’s Commish A/C should come forward on this blog and explain WHY???…he/she is making me look like a “dick-wit!”
GRRRR!!!
W Australian Jill,
Your passion for justice and kind, compassionate heart far outweighs the Melbourne fool’s money!
linda@10:18 so sweet made me cry!!! gotta go to g/daughters basketball game bbl
C-A.. 9:28 post
LOL.. about having to go out and buy new clothes.. (hand raises) yup, that is me.. that is exactly what I had to do… I have gone from a 3/4 to a 5/6(still tight) in the last 3 weeks.. no kidding!!!(think I WILL return them for a 7/8.. still can’t button the tops) Sitting here all day..1) because I can’t really move 2) I eat ALOT of junk… so I really have gained weight..
oink oink.. payday anyone???
Hi everyone, doing a drive by this mornning., have to work till 8
reading the many good posts from yesterday
Linda- Thank you for that lovely post
i watched the tapes last night, and have to say
george never looked so uncomfortable.. cindy was dsitraught , M was acting just plain out of it, it was hard to stomach..
you know darn well geroge knew those tapes are recorded…
i agree twb-
M made no sense again
this is what she should have been saying
oh my god, mom its been a month have they found caylee yet? are they looking? by being in here I can’t do much but worry, i can’t eat or sleep worrying over caylee… mom dad how are you both holding up?
don’t worry I know LE will find her. Please mom tell me whats going on out there? are they able to find zanny? are they looking everywhere for her? I am sick in here dad, Please dad find caylee… I know this looks bad on me but I am innocent and they need to be listening to what i told them and finding her..
etc etc.. you get the idea… not once does she mention caylee, if she did I didn’t hear it…
shes going down.. she’s going down..
i saw some guy on HL who analzed what all was going on in that interview with them all… very interesting.. and sad for those parents in a way…I would not be surprised if C suffers some sort of breakdown later…
well guys, gotta move here, but will be on tonight…
stay warm!!!
G’morning peeps..
I just finished reading last nights comments.. there were some really good ones!
LuLu…1:02 am… OMG, I am a mutant?? well that would explain alot of things!! LOL
Concerned… I agree, just when c seems to settle down, she does something idiotic again…hmmmm
refernce the redhead comments–
true I have a very low tolerance for pain
so I believe that lol
I just tore my arm out of socket opening my hood on my car, and been B****ing about it for 2 days
I read on another website that the Texas search group spent $100,000 looking for Caylee, money that could have been spent looking for other missing children. Legitimately missing.
concerned 1:39 post
excellent summary
Morning Anna lulu xoxox lil….lot’s of friends on already ….
morning C-A i have a new schedule starting at 9:30 am is hard for me I ain’t even ready yet

I am not a morning worker, why did she do this to me? and schedule me till 8? yuk!! oh yah its either the new hours, or face lay off thats right ;(
reading some of the posts while i drink my coffee.. luckily my neighbor is taking my girl today instead of daycare ( cause of the cold) so i can just get her ready quickly)
blah…
LuLu… Thank you to the site about redheads.. actually I had heard that
before, but never read a study on it. It was VERY interesting..THANKS!!
So calling all redheads… we are basically mutations mixed with a whole
lot of whippiness (don’t think that is a word actually).. WHIMPS.. I think
I already knew I was a little wimpy…. ohwell!!!
BBL… computer needs juicing up
xo
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Sure enough Michelle Barf has raised her ugly head again to collaborate with Sindee to keep selling the Find Caylee t-shirts and bracelets.
Gosh, the ants were in such a hurry to “donate” the toys that were given by OTHER PEOPLE to the little make-shift memorial where the remains are found but they have never donated anything that they actually supposedly own (like the t-shirts/bracelets). Surely there are homeless and poor people who could use those t-shirts?
If it was me I’d do one or another of the following: (1) Stamp “Found” across the t-shirts and then donate to charity (2) Tear up the t-shirts and donate as cleaning rags (3) destroy the t-shirts.
Right now those t-shirts are obviously morbid curiosity/crime souveniers. That Sindee can SELL them is SICK!
I only hope that IF M has been or will be able to make any money off this that Tim Miller and his lawyer Nejame will take it away from her real fast. And if we ever get proof that Leevil or c and g knew Caylee was dead before the remains were found then their pockets will be empty forever!!!! They should all have to work the rest of their lives to re-pay Tim and EquuSearch.
So I just read that Lee might be getting immunity because the prosecution wants him to testify. If he is subpoenaed he has to testify everything he knows and cant plead the 5th…
Wonder if he will throw m under the bus? eh?
Maybe they should raise the flag on how unfair they treat Lee compared to M. Cuz I BET Lee didn’t get away with half the crap M did.. I just have a feeling.
I read LE wants his testimony real bad bad enuff to give him immunity or criminal immunity…wich means what he says cant be used against him l8tr if its criminal
He must have some good dirt…
Yah
It would be great if C went on the rebound and help the pros put M away for ever. But, after hearing comments from the Ants attorney, I doubt that C will ever think that M was capable of killing Caylee.
I’d love to see that day….. C coming out of her denial and blast M on the media. That book would be a best seller. If C had any balls, she should close the door on M, and stand up for her granddaughter.
There was a comment that C made to M in the video. C was leaning forward with her head down or close to the screen and said, ” AT least your well, ” Or ” At least your ok,” Something like that. And M quickly snapped a ” What!? ” remark. Then C said something different. Did anyone else hear that?
It would be great if C went on the rebound and help the pros put M away for ever. But, after hearing comments from the Ants attorney, I doubt that C will ever think that M was capable of killing Caylee.
I’d love to see that day….. C coming out of her denial and blast M on the media. That book would be a best seller. If C had any balls, she should close the door on M, and stand up for her granddaughter.
There was a comment that C made to M in the video. C was leaning forward with her head down or close to the screen and said, ” AT least your well, ” Or ” At least your ok,” Something like that. And M quickly snapped a ” What!? ” remark. Then C said something different. Did anyone else hear that?
It would be great if C went on the rebound and help the pros put M away for ever. But, after hearing comments from the Ants attorney, I doubt that C will ever think that M was capable of killing Caylee.
I’d love to see that day….. C coming out of her denial and blast M on the media. That book would be a best seller. If C had any balls, she should close the door on M, and stand up for her granddaughter.
There was a comment that C made to M in the video. C was leaning forward with her head down or close to the screen and said, ” AT least your well, ” Or ” At least your ok,” Something like that. And M quickly snapped a ” What!? ” remark. Then C said something different. Did anyone else hear that?
WOW! I didn’t expect that the post three times, Sorry ya’ll…..OK now that I got your attention..HEHE
Allie - Sorry I misunderstood your note last night. I thought you’d been with us long enough to know that if the blog is getting full and slowing down for you all you need to do is mention it. Then we find another article to go blog under. Is it slowing down for you?
Seems like you’re having some kind of problem = at least posting three times in a row! LOL!
Pickles - I must not be looking at the right news site. Where is an article about Leevil possibly getting immunity?
I think there are two kinds of immunity. One is if the state subpoenas his testimony then what he says on the stand can’t be held against him. That doesn’t sound right to me. I mean what the heck did they invent the 5th amendment for if not that kind of situation?
Mtc, Good morning,
Did you see the whole jailhouse video?
Isn’t hard to watch the 31 min clip of M making it all about her. Every time C or G mention anthing about finding Caylee she turns it around to refocus them on her.
And the way she laughs and smurks I just want to punch her in the mouth….! Want a self bi#$h.
Three things that stood out for me on Greta last night. The big one…fat Bobo still maintaining that M is not like she is portrayed on TV…news flash Bobo..NO she is worse. Secondly the snake..someone a fellow Canuck on a previous post noted that rattlesnakes do not eat dead things which is correct, so the snake connection..weird. The only thing i can think of is weather..snakes hibernate when it is cold so perhaps this has something to do with the timeline. I also caught that the body is getting tested again by the forensic anthropologist to see if Caylee had some genetic issues, I bet they are trying to suggest she died of natural causes. Even Greta who seems to be pro defense was suggesting that perhaps it is time to bury Caylee.
As far as the defense fighting to have this last video shown indicates that they bare as out of touch with reality as M.
Morning all! Pickles, the blog is slowing down for me, too. It takes forever to refresh. Is it just my computer or should you find a new rabbit hole?
I agree with everyone. Was glad to see the commentators on NG echoed our comments about the tape and her in general.
It was sickening - made me want to hurl.
I didn’t watch Greta for long.
I would like to know how the defense would ever claim that the child had some kind of genetic issue. Come on people on the dream team, Why not just tell your client,” the gigs up.” No one can believe your theory’s so just come clean with what happen.
genetic problems…ya ok…and the home remedy was duct tape to the mouth and head…. ugh!
Okay! Now it’s Caylee’s fault! That’s all they could mean by genetic problems! She died all by herself for unknown genetic reasons and well I can’t even finish the thought.
Damn the whole defense team to hell forever.
I’m glad you all mentioned about Greta and Geraldo. I sure hope those two shows don’t become the media hore’s for a-hat defense tactics although it looks like that’s what they are. Although I have to say that I’ve believed since the beginning that a BIG media organization has been funding this - money for BB’s PR firm, PIs, who backed the 2nd bail for M? Etc.
And I think when M said that C & G “missed their opportunity” (to bail her out) that she knew there was an offer of some kind they could have taken but didn’t. What else could she have meant?
Sindee - I hope you’re enjoying all this - snakes and your granddaughter? Genetic problems? Her remains still being tossed around and poked at? Are you getting a giggle, you sick xxck? Is that worthless piece of skin in jail worth all of this? NO!
She is worthLESS - as in zero!
CA, LMFAO……
I would like that one explained in court….
allie and mtc - honestly this case is gettin stupider and stupider by the minute…this defense will stop at nothing….how in the f are they gonna try to find out if she had genetic prob. that is so sickening…anyone in the fam suffering from “el dissapearo” syndrome…that’s the only syndrome caylee had…and her mother gave it to her..
c~a - BB needs to draw up all his theories in the Comic section of the Sunday paper.
What happened to kidnapper Zanni Nanny story
capy - yah, how can he continue to play the kidnapped card and theorize at the same time she died of natural causes….that girl was healthy as a horse…
CA, yeah, good point…post 11:59,
Pick a story “card” and stick with it…
Plus, I heard one defense lawyer on NG clearly say she never takes on child killing cases cause they never win…
MTC, post 11:50
I feel the same way….A bunch of sick F#$ks in the Ants house…
Its my baby play day, read ya’ll later….
story card…lol…bozo is not playing with a full deck! but is trying hard to choose which card he likes the best..
I can still see her fit of rage in my mind…never saw her loose it like that…she controls it pretty quickly..
I can’t believe she says ( two months after baby disappears) she is saying “this is the first time I’ve really gotten angry.”
WTF. - oops..that shouldn’t of come out…TOO LATE…
Someone on Scaredmonkeys has a new theory that Casey pretended to be Zenaida when she got a traffic ticket. Interesting read-apparently a Zenaida Gonzales was given a ticket for speeding and had no id. The same day, one of M’s friends..Annie Downing was also given a ticket for failure to wear seatbelt for herself and a passenger. Theory is that it may have been M pretending to be Zenaida due to no license.The writer then says it is strange that there is no documentation released on Annie Downings interviews with law enforcement, and that maybe she knows that M has “played” Zenaida in the past.
Also, Annie is the one who lived at Sawgrass and supposedly gae M some xanax.
It is interesting that LE has not released anything from their interviews with Annie.
Hearing that Caylee’s remains are being tested to see if she had some genetic issues, tells me that BB knows the odds of him getting his ugly client acquitted are piling up against them.
IMO… Now BB would like to convince a jury that Caylee died of natural causes and Casey, in a state of shock, dumped Caylee’s body in the woods. If a jury bought that, M would spend a few years in jail for unlawfully disposing of a dead body over life in prison or the death sentence. However, we all know that the ‘liar of the century’ still believes that she can get away with this murder by sticking to her story because lies are her friend and lies never failed her before.
So, I wonder how difficult it would be for the defense team to convince “Ms. Murdering Know it all” what they feel is in her best interest. In my eyes the only true justice for Caylee would be Casey serving life in prison with no parole or getting the death sentence. Anything short of that would be a mockery of our justice system.
Someone mentioned that good old Michelle Bart is saying that the Ants are still selling Find caylee Tshirts on Caylee’s Myspace at C’s request. What is disturbing as well is that on Caylee’s Myspace is a photo of her with a caption underneath that says MOOD..none…Well I guess not. Tough to have a mood when your bones are still lying in a cardboard box. It is time that the men in white coats pick C up and if not them then LE. I think that this may be the only way to stop this crazed woman.
Wtf genetic issues? WOW this is a DESPERATE defense!
I looked on the myspace page and yes if you look in their blog updates she is selling the shirts and bracelets still…
You gotta be kidding me how ridiculous is that??
Better yet….who the heck is buying that stuff?
DOES IT SAY WHY…sindee is selling this stuff…what does she plan on doing with the money….pocketing it no doubt. she can’t say she is raising money to help find caylee anymore…so is it raising money..( by selling t’s and bracelets, i think that would take alot) to help fund m’s trial..NOT…it grandma sindee making money off her dead grandaughter…her murdered dead grandaughter…
SINDEE YOUR ONE SICK BIOTCH!
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I didnt see any reason listed for selling the stuff just if anyone wanted to buy it !
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