Caylee Marie Anthony, then 2 years old, was last seen in mid June. Her disappearance has caused so much havoc across the globe. Her mother, Casey Anthony is being held on charges of first degree murder. The prosecutors are accusing Casey of killing her daughter and it appears that basically not many others thinks differently except for her parents and brother. My question to that though is, do they REALLY think she is innocent or are they just supporting her because no one else will?
The country went day and night searching for little Caylee. Some were looking for a live Caylee and others were searching for a deceased Caylee. George and Cindy Anthony were dead set against anyone that looked for the deceased Caylee though, even when Tim Miller of Texas Equusearch got involved after Cindy herself called Tim in on the search. She didn’t want him to look for a deceased Caylee at all. Tim’s organization searched for both and basically that is what he was doing. Cindy had a huge problem with Tim and she made no secret of it. She wanted everyone to know she only wanted people to look for a live Caylee.
On December 11, 2008 a meter reader took a break to “relieve himself” while working in the area that the Anthony’s live. It was in a swampy area within walking distance from their home. He spotted the garbage bag and when he kicked it a child’s skull rolled out. Roy Kronk called 911 and reported it and from that day forward his life has not been the same.
He reportedly had called law enforcement several times in August to report something suspicious in the same swampy area. “If you were going to get rid of something like that, it would be a great place to hide it,” he said on The Good Morning America Show.
He said he called to report a bag that he saw on August 11th but the deputy that responded to the call couldn’t find anything or him for that matter. He said he called the crime hotline the next day and the information was given to the sheriff’s office.
Then on August 13 he called again but this time he met a police officer. “There was water there in August and I guess the deputy didn’t want to go out in the water to look at the bag,” said Kronk.
Certain accusations against Kronk since he discovered what has been proven to be the remains of little Caylee has now forced Kronk to hire a lawyer and appear on national TV to defend himself. He says he is innocent of any wrong doing and he has never met any of the Anthony’s. He did admit some of his shady past which has made people question his credibility.
“The only reason that I came forward with it was I have nothing to hide,” said Kronk. “I didn’t want this to happen, what’s already happening.”
This case gets stranger by the minute. Everyone finds themselves with their own theories about how all this came about and who is involved and if they were involved before or after the fact. I bet that there is a lot more to this story than any of us know.
There are so many twisted stories coming out, like for instant the private investigators beef with each other over the video that hit the airwaves taken back in November of one investigator, Dominic Casey walking through the wooded area that Caylee’s remains were found. The video was shot by another investigator, James Hoover. Now so many explanations came out about this video starting from the investigators to their lawyers and then from the Anthony’s attorney Brad Conway and then to a psychic, Ginnette Matcia Lucas that claims she was the one talking to Dominic Casey on the phone when he was in the wooded area. Now I do have my doubts about her. If this was all true it would have been said outright from the beginning but Dominic Casey first told a reporter that he was on the phone with an ill daughter of his and now the story has changed conveniently. (Does that sound familiar?)
I am sure little Caylee is in heaven looking down at them wondering why all the lies. I am sure she is watching her grandmother telling people who are NOT going to be invited to Caylee’s funeral once they decide to finally lay this precious child to rest. She is watching her mother every day as Casey orders her goodies and paying for it with the money that good honest people are donating to her account in jail. She is probably wondering why her Mommy did what she did to her and why she is now acting like she just doesn’t care. The Anthony’s are still hurting this little baby even now that she is no longer alive. What a shame that is, especially when it doesn’t have to be this way.
Caylee we remember you and we know you are in a better place. America loves you honey. God bless you and all the other children that are up there with you.
Jan Barrett













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Woohooooooooo New Blog. you suck Pickles lmao.
I wanted to be first. Not fair, you got tipped off
Pickles cheated!
Nice post Jan. Can’t wait to discuss it.
Hey Gracie….wassup ladie…
jan AWSOME!!!! you always write great articles..simon to i suppose if everyone involved with this case had been honest from the beginning it would be easier to believe mr.kronk, seems e1 has a alterior motive behind what they are doing and it all sems to revolve aroun $$$$…even the grandparents who are suppose to be greving and wanting the truth have thier hand in the $$$ pot..as we all knew c wont change her controlling ways are just to hard to controll banning people from this childs funeral her last effort of controll…if she had her way anyone that didnt believe that m murdered her daughter would not be invited wich would me almost no one would attend….its sad to see hoe greedy people are around anyones death(ive seen alot) but the death of this precious child is a little much shes not even burried yet and all any one wants is cash….hopefully justice will prevail and the right people will stay and end up in jail..if they dont they will have to deal with the lord above who i believe is watching out for little caylee now…rember the one tiny hair left behind…..
What for do you mean PAW69..I have no inside connection here..
aww…..i thought i got here first…no one was here i posted and e1 beat me
darn!!!! sneaky people 
Thank You so much Jan & Simon for the new Blog and for the awesome articles. Simon, Jan doesn’t work hard enough. I think she needs more to do
Just kidding hehehe 
Anna, Pickles cheats, She has inside involvement. She’s guilty
CA - You were asking about the abandoned house?
There was some discussion about it the other day - if it’s the same house you’re talking about - and some people thought it was too risky for M to leave Caylee there for a couple of reasons. She could wake up and wander out or the kids or whoever goes into places like that could find her. What was it you had in mind about that house if I haven’t hit the mark yet?
***kicks a pebble at Pickles***
It’s so sad that Caylee’s name is circled with $$$ signs. What is wrong with these people? Don’t answer that, I already know the answer. But seriously, I realize Casey is their daughter and all, But how can you protect your daughter and ignore the overwhelming evidence, and not stand up for your granddaughter. Caylee didn’t ask for any of this. I still think a gag order should have been put in place from the very beginning. I bet 85% of the people involved now, wouldn’t have been involved if there was a gag order in place. Caylee WILL have the LAST word in the end.
anna - you got to the blog in the early hours before anyone! We need to take turns now LMAO
I posted this on the other blog, doesn’t relate to the article but if you will:
C~A ( the woods is the real nanny) said,in January 14th, 2009 at 5:19 pm Hi Guys…I was thinkin while out on my run…about the chlorie..and how we all thought she was druggin baby since the searches were done on her comp.
If the baby wasn’t chloried to sedate her then it was searched with the premeditation of murder, and how she might need something toxic to clean it up any evidence after she killed her…so how did she die?
They might argue it could be for something very innocent as wanting to clean something etc…then it wouldn’t be in HIGH concentration in the trunk where a dead body was housed.
I also wonder if we are no longer believing due to suffocation ( which actully could have been cause of death in the end) that baby was being babysat by the trunk over time, the the million dollar question is STILL…WHERE WAS CAYLEE FOR ALMOST 2 YEARS OF HER LIFE.
Leads back to new abandoned house theory? Is it really secluded? Does anyone know if the area was frequented by peeps or was the hang out far away?
PLEASE SOMEONE TRY TO ANSWER THE LAST QUESTION…I ASKED 3 TIMES SO FAR IF ANYONE HAS ANY IDEAS
Gracie - THank you for the link to the click news site. THat’s exactly why I like to have the sources.
The first post said that C had emailed wftv but that didn’t jibe with me because I know C hates wftv and I had been checking wftv pretty regularly and there was no info about it.
When you posted the link to the other news site and I could read the article it all made sense - more than the posts did. C wrote Dakota’s mother who probably gave Ch6 or whoever a copy.
What I want to know is what triggered C to write to Dakota’s mother? That would be interesting to know, too. Have you heard anything about that?
CA - I responded - Please scroll up!
Thanks MTC - I picture this abandoned house in the woods, just trying to clarify it’s location, cause THERE WAS NO NANNY, and if the trunk was way too hot…where was caylee all that time then? NOT with M or she wouldn’t have made up the nanny story in the first place..m wouldn’t spend every minute of everyday with baby…she had to be SOMEWHERE…away from m?
Has anyone else noticed this post on WDBO.com website about Leevil?
http://wdbo.com/news/leeanthony_11409.html
Armchair Critics take aim at Lee Anthony
wonder if m ever told annie about zanny
Hey, Pickles! You should write Nancy Grace right now with all your tips on how to get beads out of little noses. Now that NG has two little noses she better watch her bead making area very closely!!!! LOL!
CHEATER, CHEATER, PUMPKIN EATER NA NA NA NA NA1
MTC - I heard that Kruger Rockafella said the little girl couldnt go to caylees funeral! I would assume the girls mother send a straight up email about maggot for kruger to jump into defense mode AGAIN
*kicks pebbles back* at j0ooh
If she used the secluded house, she could have duct taped her to keep her still every time she did it. kids or anyone may not frequent there anymore like they use to when she was younger. I’ll be back in a minute, cooking dinner too.
C~A
About that last question. I’m still not convinced she wasn’t in the trunk all those times. I know people talked about the nights getting cold (or hot) but it still makes more sense to me that she had to be in the trunk, as it is the only place she can be sure no one will come across her by accident. The abandoned house would just be too risky. What if she was discovered there..too risky!
CA - Well we don’t really know how much time M left Caylee alone. All I know about is when she dated Tony L. Otherwise she dragged Caylee to Ricardo’s where she slept in the same bed and to parties where people told her it wasn’t right. When else do we know of that M for sure left Caylee somewhere? For all we know she dragged Caylee everywhere - stores, malls, etc during the previous months. Plus there were plenty of times M had made up work to go to so her parents would watch her.
So I’m really not sure how often M did leave Caylee alone somewhere. Any particular times in mind?
Ya said it well Jan… Welcome to the flea circus…where sleeping dogs don’t lay…they LIE.
I would love the PI video to leak with audio. Then we would know exactly who’s egg was gonna fry.
Is it Bobo? Leevil??? Sin????
All I know is if I were the OCSO I’d make that stupid so called psychic present her phone records by the end of the week and when she couldn’t (or the records told a different story) slap her smart ass and dummy-dick both with obstruction of justice.
Just cus my hair is the same color as a pumpkin dont mean I eat pumpkin
Most of the time that we know that Caylee was not with M was when we believe Caylee was already dead. June 15 on.
Bleh like we already know people don’t like leevil…nothing new.
Okay. I missed a boat here. Who in the double heck is Kruger Rockafella ? Is that Leevil?
And now Dakota can’t go to the funeral?
Sindee is certifiable.
I think NO ONE should go to the public funeral. Everyone should gather by the site where the remains were found and Rev Grund should say a few words and lead a prayer.
Let the ants stand and wait for their “audience.” Eff ‘em.
I have no clue now as to where she was keeping Caylee while out and about…she referred to her mom as nanny before…in txt msgs to amy about a party..she referred to cindy as the nanny and that no nanny tonite cus her mom got home to late
Goldie:
True, but interesting that LE is taking time to respond on the record to Leevil attorney remark.
In addition to which Dakota should be removed from her family’s care if they were even considering letting Dakota go to it. THe kid has been mentally screwed up by this case and should be kept as far away from it as possible!
I wouldnt go if I was paid to…they all have xploited Caylee and they suck
But she went on for two years leaving the house with caylee saying she is going to work and dropping caylee at nannies…she would have had to leave the house pretending she had a job…my minds eye seeing her doing this everyday…how did she keep up the whole job thingy with g and sin if she didn’t leave with caylee….or have they known ALL along…she didn’t have a job…which is why sin is covering up about nanny…trying to cover a murder by saying…THERE WAS NO NEED TO TALK TO THE SITTER…MY A@@
NOt one art paper, not one phone call from or to nanny by sin, not one meeting, not one mention of zanny by baby..not one picture .not one phone call record of maggot to “the nanny”…c has to be lying about zanny… she knew there was never a nanny…how could you NOT know..with all of the above…I hope they nail sin to the wall….
She was keeping her zonked on chloroform in the car or in a motel room if she could get some skank chasing ween to pay for it IMO
Yah..I think she was hooker in a brothel taking Caylee to the brothel and doing her business…maybe the other hoe’s were watching Caylee while she …jah kno.
CA - Remember that G was unemployed part of that time and could look after Caylee. So M didn’t have to take her to a “nanny” everytime she went to work. And the gparents did babysit at night and they’d still call M and tell her she had to come home. So I’m not sure how many times M really did have to put Caylee somewhere before all this blew up.
MTC - I referred to sindee and g as MR.and MRs. Rockafella after their stay at the ritz…
She has been called sindee krueger many times…as in Freddy so I just put the two together…
No hookers like to talk and brag and get attention (just like this baby killing hooker does). If that were the case then someone (or a lot of someones) would have talked to get some $$$
so why the nanny bullcrap…?? She was lying about her because she was doing something bad to her….OR was she never really left anywhere but nanny made up to try to provide her alibi cause she STILL HAD PLANS TO KILL HER… I wonder when Zanny was really made up…like a few months before she killed…still makes krueger rockafellar a liar..either way…
Zanny was made up when she still felt safe doping the poor baby up with Xanax so she could sneak out without the baby waking up S n G.
Then Sin and Grinch caught her doing that and Grinch threatened to drug test the baby if she ever did that again.
As controlling as C is, She would have known everything about the nanny. She would have even done a background check on the nanny.
CA, sorry, I have not been feeling well. But I did put that theory out there about the house then left you hanging… so sorry.
I do think the house was the nanny. Because of the two names around the property as I noted in the last post. Can someone cut and paste because I feel horrible and don’t want to retype the whole theory again.
I have always thought she was keeping Caylee in the car….thats where she ended up in the end…the car..
Is FLorida hot all year long..even at night?
Car isn’t going to get that hot again at night after the sun goes down Pickles
***kick***
CA @ 5:41 THank you! I missed that. I still don’t know what triggered the email to Dakota’s mother or why C/Sindee is banning her from the funeral. What caused all that?
Good going, Sindee! Traumatize another young girl!
Picks… FL is too hot to keep a toddler or a pet for that matter in the car. I don’t believe that is where she kept the baby. Not possible without killing her (earlier)
Her and the mother have been having an email flame war with each other since the body was found. That is why she is banning her.
The story:
http://www.tampabays10.com/news/local/story.aspx?storyid=98098&catid=8
Even if we just focus on April through June, those two months alone would have been the death of Caylee if she were in the trunk or even the regular car with the window open. The thing about FL - and I know because I live here - it is not only the temp, but the humidity. While at night it is cooler, the car takes all night to cool down and you STILL need the air conditioner on in the car in the evening.
sillybutt - I guess I’m being silly to even discuss such speculation but I don’t believe that M left Caylee in that abandoned house.
Many people driving by who’d know her, see her taking Caylee in or out. Bugs, snakes, spiders, chiggers, the child would have come home in terrible shape. Not to mention that someone could find her by accident. I just don’t go for that theory.
c~a i believe m was drugging baby for a long time…her jelousy and anger at c and the fact that caylee was learning to talk set her off the final time..ive tried to figure out wher she was only answer i could come up with was the trunk…also how irresponsible of c not to have a emergency # who does that..and she trys to potray them like the brady bunch or a g says a hand id like to ball my hand in a fist and really pop her one …and HARD!!!!
K JooH all cya later (I think)
throws BIG snowball at all bloggers….BRRR…
Thank you Goldie! I didn’t know about that news site.
Wow. I just don’t understand why (1) Dakota’s family can’t just butt the heck out of the case at least for their daughter’s sake and (2) why conway hasn’t duct taped Sindee’s hands AND mouth!
m2c, yes the baby would have come home in terrible shape from the house - maybe, but more so from the trunk of a car i would think.
my theory is just a theory… not married to it. i just can’t figure where the hell Caylee was all of those times she was with Zanny the imaginary nanny.
and the fact that on either side of the woods are names that end up making the imaginary nanny name (long before Caylee was murdered or ZFG went to the apartment) is astonishing to me as a pure conincd. just saying
cough, sneeze, cough… argh…i feel like kaka
pumpkins good pumpkin pie gonna have one with sunday dinner ummmm….
Okay all, I need to go for now. I’ll try to be back later. Be good to each other.
blah, must back to bed… will stop by later:)
muah ladies and gents
omg just had a thought…wonder how c’s gonna act at the public memorial…suppose she will pas a offering tray??? or try and be a media hound thru it horrible!!!
I have always thought the trunk played a huge part in caylees life as well as chlorie. and I still do…but someone talked about the heat and air quality…I am sure she couldnt have done it for long…but maybe a few times which led to her death…maggot decided JUNE 15 after midnight that was the night….which is why she ended up staying in the trunk (where she died) till she started smell….then m thought putting her in the yard till she figured out what to do with her…to alleviate the smell and prevent it from gettin detectable and worse…then back to the trunk and then the woods.
HA Puttin’ On The Ritz! That’s C & G, but they can’t quite cut it, can they.
C~A I don’t want to leave you hanging out in the wind. Don’t have many ideas except this one. I know she had a girlfriend who she USED big time when Caylee was little.She baby sat for her. Friend thought M was working. Nice M.
And possibly she rotated between many “nanny’s”.
The trunk - if it was going to be a cool night? (Wonder if she checked the weather?) Sometimes G (I have to work late Dad, BIG EVENT!), sometimes C.,sometimes took her to the parties where she slept HARD some friends said - (drugged no doubt). Maybe at Lee’sapartment sometimes? Maybe that house/shed? If she tied her with Duct tape, she could have. Users are very creative and adaptable. I know one. After all, she didn’t love Caylee… despised her I think, so everything - anything was possible. Proof of the pudding, she’s dead. Sometimes I focus in on one thing, but many times it’s more than one thing going on. Even found that out at the Drs.
sillybutt - I sorry you feel like ka ka. Please feel better soon.
You know it is interesting how many times the names Zenaida and Gonzales came up in M’s life.
She knew kids by those names in school. May have read that children’s book herself! Plus the name at Sawgrass. Plus how handy that Zanny is a nickname for xanax (the drug) and an easy nickname for zenaida. Maybe it’s ALL those reasons combined that made M choose it
(especially the Zenaida part).
she didnt die at home…
THe other thing about duct tape. It hurts like heck coming off and can even take skin with it I believe. So I’m not really sure how often M would dare use it on a baby’s skin.
I don’t mean to be stubborn here but we’re really just not sure how often M left Caylee anywhere. I can see her driving all over town, shopping, parking and jabbering on the phone with her friends with the poor baby stuck in the car seat bored to tears. And we know she took Caylee to parties and overnights with bfs in the months before all this mess. So she may not have left her in the trunk or taped up anywhere (much) at all. Didn’t have to before she met Tony L. who didn’t want Caylee around. And shortly after that - no more Caylee.
betty - your right….she didn’t have to be doing ONE thing with baby…she flew by the seat of her pants everyday from the moment she opened her eyes…zanny was prob. 5-10 different places and peeps…when do you think she made up the zanny story? Same time she planned her murder and researched chlorie back in may i think….wouldnt doubt that, and sindee goes along with the story…playing stupid when she say….”there was no need to call the nanny”…she such a liar…doens’t love caylee only maggott.
Okay, maybe it is the drugs I am on… but who the H is Dakota?? I feel like Rumplestlskin.. Help me????
CA - I don’t think C even loves Maggot. Not anymore. Remember she said she didn’t care about M. I think Sindee is all about Sindee.
That HER daughter wouldn’t do this. Because it all reflects on HER!
If she loved her daughter she would have gone to see her. Even to sit quietly, tell her I love you. I support you. How are you? But no visits all these past months. Nope. This mom don’t love this daughter anymore than this daughter loved poor little Caylee.
when m left that night prob mad and frantic cuz no where to go tony didnt want caylee there so m gave her zanax taped her after.before she fell asleep drove around maybee caylee was upset at having to leave in a hurry and was cring or having a fit and wanted to go home m being selfish just wanted to shut her up dosed her taped her put in trunk….heat in the trunk gets hot m didnt think about that …poor caylee if thats the way she suffred…imo!
Lilred - remember 12 year old girl, Dakota, who organized some vigils for Caylee early in the case? And M wrote her notes and sent her stuff and then Sindee did too. And Dakota ended up hospitalized from all the stress.
Her mom tried to get a restraining order to keep M and Sindee from communicating with her but did not succeed. Don’t know what started up this exchange of emails.
m2c dakotas gma prob wanted funeral info…shouldnt have let the girl communicate with m specially how upset it got her..maybe dakotas gmom was aother media hound….rember murt??? how she was on the mike talking???
murt wasnt happy about that rember???
New story just posted in last 30 minutes on WFTV.com
Psychic’s Credibility Questioned amid claims She talked to PI
http://www.wftv.com/news/18482075/detail.html
in part …
“WFTV reporter Kathi Belich talked to a family member from another murder mystery 20 years ago who said psychic Ginette Lucas took her money and gave her useless information in return.”
anna - Oh, yes. I hold Dakota’s family totally responsible. If she was my daughter I’d have moved out of Florida if I had to. There is no way she’d have contact with the ants again for her own health. I’m afraid Dakota’s mom and/or gma are nuts too - and like you said media hounds. I wish child services would investigate them!
WFTV.com article also says:
… Eyewitness News legal analyst Bill Sheaffer said that the actions of the detectives lead him to believe that the video may have been staged (watch interview) for Casey’s defense team.
“What better location to go to than an abandoned house where someone by the name of Gonzalez used to live,” Sheaffer said.
Tim, your post 5:31. What if Caylee were taped, and discovered in that house/shed…
Ms. THING is fast on her feet with answers!M could say if Caylee was “discove(depending on what time of the day the discovery was made) different answers like…
“She was asleep in here room … somebody kidnapped her! I didn’t hear a thing! How COULD they do this to my baby?”
Or, “I ran out to a 7-11 for 8 minutes, and when I came back she was gone!”
Or “I didn’t notice she was gone until the next day when I went in her room…”
I suppose she would have done more searches on this subject, or maybe she did already.
I have CONFIDENCE in her,and the tales she weaves while on her feet!! Fast.
Jane VM will be on in about 20 minutes!
media i saw that to… ythe whole case is a circus imo!
anna
Wild, huh?
I’m loving that everyone in the media is hot on the trail of this Psychic story … makes it that much harder for the defense to hide the truth regarding the PI’s phone records
M2C… I agree with 6:23 post…
no, I don’t believe Sin was ever a good mother to M or LV.. Casey, same as mom (even said on the jail tape) certainly was not a good mother to
Caylee. It truly is true, the apple doesn’t fall from the tree… I DO think that saying has been said waaaaay to many times!!!!
In no way am I condonning (spell oops) was m did.. but this family has soooo dysfunctional from minute 1…. it is no wonder this horrible thing
happened in this family. Poor little Caylee paid with her life….
If you really looked at this from afar… it is self-perpecuating (spell opps) situation. It truly is so sad for so many reasons..
m2c if social services havent they arent doing thier job if people like us notice this stuff..arent they suppose to be trained??? and why were they talking to begin with c&gma??? i know i said funeral arrangement but funny how the email got “leaked” hmm.by who i wonder..another media hound!!! dakotas gmom!! what a bunch of a$$e$!!!
Thanks M2C… you always come thru!!!! ((hugs))
I don’t think dakotas g ma did anything wrong talkin in murts car..she was really only talking on the phone mostly…and said she didn’t want to touchanything…I didn’t see the harm.
I also have to wonder was her loyalty to casey or caylee…casey befriended her…and prob. totally confused her…now that caylee is dead…the girl might very well need to have some closure and to heal…that is what funerals are for right, to say goodbye…I mean..the damage is done with g ma allowing her such involvment in the first place, we cant change that, what they can change is how she comes out of it…if sidee denies the needs of yet another child..someone should shoot her between the eyes…she is using dakota as a pawn to the words of the g ma…just like she is using caylee now for her own sake and how both her and maggot used caylee against eachother….sindee is using caylee as a tool once again…to get what she wants…
MTC … yes,duct tape rough on babies skin. Right. Now I am getting into (God help me) the head of this lunatic. OK, put a piece of fabric like a doubled up scarf, or a hand towel, on poor little caylee’s wrists, THEN put the duct tape on top of that - tight! Would that do it? Maybe an adult could get out of that, but not a little 2 year old? This worm didn’t work and had all the time in the world to figure things out for who? FOR ONLY HER BENEFIT! Now she has more time than EVER!
Maybe collectively WE should write a book about this when it’s over?
For The Love Of Caylee - by Bloggernews.net ??
Lil:
Don’t know if you are interested, but if so, here’s a link to a website that outlines some Herbal Remedies for RA -
http://www.holisticonline.com/Remedies/Arthritis/arth_RA_herbal_med.htm
I am allergic to all antibiotics so my husband planted me a “wellness garden” and we grow lots of herbs that can be used in place of antibiotics for different things.
Some people don’t believe in it, but luckily for me, the herbal remedies seem to work in place of the antibiotics when I need them.
oh boy im PO!!!! my daughter 12 yr went to friends house walking no hat mittens(hair might get messed up) its -14 with colder wind chills…GIRLS gonna kick her butt when she comes in..even worse shes gonna wear friends sons hat home..ha ha on her little stinker!!!
aww betty nice idea! We also thought of using the words of the blog day by day as a true timeline on how things went down…all the opinions and theories…verbatim..A documentary..of day to day in the life of a blog created for ‘THE LOVE OF CAYLEE….
We would call it…
WE ARE THE STORM ~ JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE
C-A I am sorry I didn’t see your first post, but I finally did…
That is a damn good question, how did she die??? If m didn’t drug her,
she prob suffocated her. It would not take much for such a small child.
To be honest C-A I hate thinking about how she died. It really still makes me cry…
If the cloriform did not kill her and was something else…. to maybe clean
up, then only the m knows.
dysfunctinal(spelling) or not there is no excuse for simple human compassion for another human being…how does a person involve themselves in only themselfs how does one not have human emotion for thier child..even the most disfunctional familys have at least one person among them with true heartfelt feelings…this family must have a molicule missing from the brain or heart they are all sleazy and money grubbing…how do you not care about a child??? that age is so cute and full of wonder and most of all that age usually adores thier parent looks up to them for ethink(right up m ally) whats wrong with this family???
I read it was to put reasonable doubt in the mind of jurors by the defense team…see the body wasnt there then..and since killr was eithr in jail or on house arrest then the real killr dumped the body there when it was found in December.
anna - I know…we thought for months she went to sleep…when theories started to change it was really hard for me…when the neck breakin searches were aired..etc…Whatever she did to her…she felt the need to keep her mouth shut so the evidence would decay and be destroyed…if she called right away, who knows when she would have been found, and there might have been obvious casue ofdeath…
by the way…you only missed the o after i..
yep ething they do is for reasonable doubt..wheres the story were gonna go “oh now i understand?” they dont have one!!!
**slap***
OUCH! THAT HURT
Oh I understand she killed her kid to get laid’
not that bad after all.. pretty sad i dont use spell x :)…all the senerios they have come up with are sometimes to immaginable…whae i was preg with my son i had a dream about a brn eyed girl with brownish hair…was convinced i was having a girl can see her in my mind…now i see it looks like caylee cuz none of my daughers look like her..just realised that a couple of weeks ago didnt tell you guys thought you might think i was nuts or making it up….wierd huh??
was 16-17 at the time of the dream almost 20 yrs later…..
You know what… all this take about HOW Caylee actually died, it making me so very sad. I don’t know about all of you but I can not even look at
pictures of her.. in fact I haven’t been able to for a looong time.
the pic of her in white shirt can only see her face and upper part leaning on a pillow same face as my dream long ago….
I dont know all of you but I am sick of hearing what others are doing in this case….it’s kinda like the calm before the storm…the storm will hit hard on the whole damn family once baby is buried…or cremated in this case…such stupidity…worrying over someone diggin her up…PAAAAAALEEEEEEEEEEEEE
they want all evidence she ever lived to be gone…down to the ashes like down to bones is not f’ing enough for them….they will pay for every decision they have ever made regarding both casey and caylee…I hope they suffer…you don’t cremate a baby that has been through so much already.
Its been over a month now…they are draggin burial out as long as they can…they want to enjoy their last days of freedom….just like maggot did! IMO
what do you guys think??? strange huh???
Anna… yeah, I know… it is killing me. I hope m is punished, big time.
c~a did you see my 7:01 post?? what do you think???
anna
I think it is one of those strangely beautiful things that happen in life … and even more amazing that you still remember the dream and the face in the dream in such detail so many years later.
C~A ( the woods is the real nanny) said,
in January 14th, 2009 at 5:41 pm
MTC - I referred to sindee and g as MR.and MRs. Rockafella after their stay at the ritz…
She has been called sindee krueger many times…as in Freddy so I just put the two together…
Yeah Sindee Krueger was after my dream about Sindee eeek! lol! She invades your dreams smelling like sun tan lotion!
you guys think im weird??? ok dont answer that…about my ddream looong ago???
anna - that’s weird…and that you remember it…
Lil - I know it’s hard to think of how she died but it is something I hope is found out as it would nail killer real good…I find myself walking out of the room on commercials on NG to come back here…as soon as caylee comes on it stops me in my tracks…I am compelled to stay and watch…I just stare at her takin in all her beauty….
Anna that is strange..its just revelations in your dreams…You were being revealed stuff from the future
I was gettng dinnr ready..sorry
pickles…did jooh go and slap “me” ?
I hate when I have dreams that like really happen in life…dejavu or whatever ppl call it…trips me out…It happens alot..but I just ignore it now cus I dont like the feeling…inside when it happens..and my dreams are always in color…like way detailed….bleh…I kinda like scary dreams…there fun…aint gonna hurt me so why not…
pic&c~a i only rember cuz i was so convinced i was having a girl and she was beautifull big brown eyes and hair my son is blond and blue as are both daughters altho youngest has blueish green eyes…just weird to me..not crazy yet..thanks for the reply been afraid to say thought you all might think i was making it up or something!
Naww I was slappng Fish..sorry
Anna your so sweet..
I had a dream when I was preggers with my boy and I walkd out of a store and my water broke on the sidewalk….
Well it did break naturally but not on a sidewalk…
i havent had a deja voo in awhile use to scare the heck out of me tho…this i rembered cus i expected my child to be a girl and look like that….HEY DID YOU SLAP ME TOOO!!!! i felt that:)
Anna I like the
at the end of joooh’s name!!
there is a pretty picture of Caylee sitting in a Childs (CAR SEAT) holding one of her dolls, was the(childs car seat) in the front or back seat of the car when they found it ?or was it in the poniac at all ? any one know this?
usually photos taken from a digital camera will show the date it was taken … if it was that sort of camera …
*PimPSlaP* kachoww a round for the room!!!
Hi Pickles! How yoo doin? I love reading your posts. They’re so interactive. Anxiously awaiting talking to you guys again. Jan’s post is soo good, especially having the links in there. Hope you have a nice supper, hubby’s cooking for me tonight.
hi pickles how are you ? going to watch J.V.M catch ya later
The car seat was in the car…
In that pic of Caylee the shoulder cushions arent even on her shoulders there on her chest its weird..
the car seat was in the car..The dol..Im not sure…
Anna… no, I don’t think it is strange at all. It only proves that you care
deeply about such a moving and emotional situation.. it proves too, that you are a very loving person.. that is a GOOD thing.
Hey Nanna!! Im fine
Gracie…thank you!!
Yes dinner…Tuna casserole…mmmm mmm mmm good..
I’m thinking Caylee’s doll was in the car too. I think C made a comment that was Caylee’s favorite doll. : (
my first child watter broke when going pee..was wondering why i was peeing pants just wouldnt stop
was young had no idea of what to expect…well my daughter still has ears intact
no frostbite thank goodness.. even with no hat..made big threats if she does this again…im soooo mean:) 
I feel that we(all of us) care very, very deeply about a child we never knew, but took into our heart as our own… In my book, we loved Caylee prob more than anyone in her young life ever did..
Yah…Caylee had that doll since birth it was her bebe….
Thats why I think the book and blanket werent because killr wanted to send Caylee’s body off with her prized possessions…she woulda put the doll with the body…I think the book was cus of the nanny story
back again yes it looked like a childs car seat
wonder where I could find that photo .the abandon house the owner id Hernan gonzales
i went over the artical twice it says the house where Hernan G, lives strange? misprint?
I dont know nothing about that…the house or anything…
anna - YOU are not weird…I have so many stories that I could tell you about same stuff…I totally believe in dreams and analyse my own quite a bit..as well as I believe I when I am in a semi concious state, kinda aware of the fact I am in bed but kinda on the verge of being asleep, that I have had people come to me visually as well as voices talking which is almost been non existent in my dreams my whole life….life change looking for the remains of my deceased baby brother…it started happening but not much now…it’s all real to me and I totally hear ya!
Anna.. yeah, you big meannie!!! LOL kids, what are you going to do??
ROFL….
there is a picture of the abandoned house on word press-hernan gonzales’ abandoned house.
Mang this story has gotten so much attention…
Seriously some old abandoned house has a pic on word press..its far out there…
Pickles … I found it YES she is sitting in a Childs Car Seat… she has a beige ball cap on little white top ,puff short sleeve,& pair of jeans on the Doll she is holding has a pink outfit on maybe PJs its a beautiful photo it could be in the anthony auto. a child is not allowed in a car unless buckled in / suppose the tot mom got rid of it tooo ??? answer this for me ok???
How i found the photo I went to Googles typed in caylees photos, and sure enough there it was
I feel I really drew that part of my mind out when I was deep in the search…like able to connect and see and hear cause I wanted it so much…and signs…dont get me going on signs…like “that is a sign”…of a direction or decision was made was right or wrong kinda thing…I love that stuff…the paranormal, communicating with the other side….I have even considered joining the paranormal investigative group in OTtawa….but never have the time to committ…maybe someday
I’m thinking there weren’t very many times kilr really had to hide her anywhere.
Jesse’s family watched her two days a week for a long period of time in the early months.
Her friend, Lauren, watched Caylee for free for several months. That ended when Lauren found out kilr wasn’t working just hanging out with friends.
Parents had her just about every evening and weekends. Kilr would sleep til 9 or 10 a.m. Dad would give Caylee breakfast a lot of times. Kilr would dress, pretend to go to work (unless Dad didn’t have to work, then he would watch her until GmaA got home).
Kilr would sometimes just drop Caylee at GmaA’s work and tell her she had an event, could she take Caylee home?
I think she either took Caylee out for a little bit of just running around or shopping and returned home while the parents were at work. Could swim, watch, tv, probably put Caylee down for a nap, cruised her my space/internet, then left again just before they got home.
Kilr could then rush in for dinner hour, drop Caylee off, then head back to “work”. That would leave Kilr evenings free with gma watching Caylee, putting her to bed. All she has to do is roll in around midnight or later, sleep again until 9 or 10 am.
Nights she wanted to stay out, made up the Nanny story, but those nights both she and Caylee were at INSERT MONTH HERE: boyfriend’s.
This changed when grdma started feeling the $$$$$ stealing, credit card abuse, cussing out, was on giant rip off, Kilr taking advantage.
It was only then that kilr had to figure out some other way. G was beginning to question Caylee. “Did you have a good time at Zanny’s today?” No recognition on Caylee’s part at all. Caylee was also getting to the age where she was going to be able to talk more, Kilr’s stories were in danger of being found out.
Also, the old abandoned house-WFTV.com (channel 9) has a video about it posted on the web.
nana - That pic should be titled..the amazing wonders of a childs expression! I wonder what she was thinking and lookin at. Didn’t sindee have a suv? This was a car, so must be maggots..
Ohh so her sitter in the beginning was using everyone around her..
She wasnt really working just hanging out with friends…letting her other friends watch Caylee that makes sense..
Sheller THANK YOU FOR POSTING ALL THAT…makes alot of sense..
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hi C~A well I dont know which Vehicle it was, but the car seat looks new , youve seen that phot as well c~A wonder if the police took it out of anthonys garage ??
Thanks Pickles Another idea that has been driving me crazy for a while. Thanks. Took me so long to read all the blogs yesterday I hardly had time to write anything at the end. Good stuff all you bloggers.
People who want to send money to Casey should call the jail and see if there is some one more needed and give your money to them.
According to the video on WFTV (channel 9)
they are proposing that the whole PI video thing is probably a defense team set up. They say they think that it is all planned to draw attention to the Gonzales’ being the owners of the abandoned house. Watch it!
You were all talking weather a while back. 60 here day before yesterday and maybe 16 tonight with snow.
I took one of the Ns out of my name LOL
Timbit..I read that too..its a scam to plant doubt in the possible jurors mind…I heard it was cus they want ppl to think the real killr dumpd her body there…
Sheller…It makes alot of sense..her ditching Caylee everywhere to be cared for..I know a chick just like that…
Hi Smith!! Yah dont send killr your money..no!!
YIKES! And, yet ANOTHER ring in this circus! I read the article about the emails between her and the other psycho, Lois, grandmother to the girl Dakota. Now, if you look at Dakota’s myspace (or whatever it is), she is made up to look about 17!
Can we PLEASE keep all nonimportant pieces of news out of this case? Between the stupid psychic and the moronic PI and who is he talking to and the meter reader on Today Show.. I am completely DIZZY.
And.. Cindy… your granddaughter was missing, you were heartbroken.. BUT.. you still took a stranger.. a 12 year old girl clothes shopping and spent $500??
Who’s money?
Cool Nana!!
If I were a young single mother living with my parents and working, and had to use a paid babysitter or nanny while I was at work, there would be so much different in place. For one thing, there would be a list of emergency phone numbers at home including that of the nanny and another one of me at my workplace. Doesn’t it strike anybody here odd that a nurse and an ex detective would not have those phone numbers at their home in order to contact Casey and/or Caylee in case of emergency? Another thing, with Caylee in the care of a nanny, I would probably have had several occasions in which my parents would have met the nanny either for handing off purposes or just to be sociable, for example inviting to our home for dinner our out for coffee.
In St.Louis, they are predicting -22 tomorrow. THAT is very, very cold for us. In fact they closed the schools tomorrow..(I don’t get that??..I guess the kids who have to stand at the bus stop)
Anyone here from N. Dakota?? I heard it is something like -44…eeks that is cold!!
Elaine-
They may not all end up being unimportant pieces. Its sounding more and more like the PI video (and phone call) may end up being very important to the case.
pickles … remove for me a post where it says nanna of two, its on googles just as we look for bloggers news net ,,, ‘ITS on the one (like casey its in the can ??? will you remove that for me, its at the front page where the world can see thank you i will appreciate that
TimBit….
post 7:56 , your post, I what way do you think they may be important?
Think I am getting goofy..(meds) do you mind explaining, thanks!
Hello everyone! NG is claiming leevil may get criminal immunity ! mmmhmmmmm getting deeper!
Lulu…excuse me for this.
I found it EXTREMELY odd. (lol) (a repeat of kilr answer during interview at Universal)
I think her using the word Nanny made them all feel they were now being known as “old money” or something. Just a cut above the rest.
I’ve never known anyone who had a nanny, except Wendy, Peter, and John in Peter Pan.
Oh heck and that was a dog, not a real nanny at all. Guess that fits here, too.
It was Wendy, Michael, and John…my bad.
Nana…post the link for me…because I cant find it….what your talkng about.
Nana…post me the link to the google page where it says it and I can navigate to it from there and ask Jan to delet the comment thats showing up on Google.
Nana I am googling and cant find it..find the link to the google page and post it for me…
ok hang on..pickles i will do that
and oh! a lady calls NG remember caylees birthday was Aug 9 th ( Casey say ‘i feel it in my gut she’ll be home for her birthday “? thats the day Roy kronk first called about something suspicious AUG ( /9th
wasnt the calls startin from aug 11 from kronk
Yah I thought it was the 11,12,13th…
Nana I cant find the Google page you are referring to..IF you can find it let me know.
ok this is it..
Caylee Anthony:BNn on Radio-show (and like Casey)it is in the can.) will you please delete the post its not that ,but i dont want it on googles front page thanks again
FREE to good owner kid GIRL 12 acompanyed by MOUTH….. pammy i tell ya id give almost anything to have my girl a small terror than the mouth..then they twist things so they can blame you..or the good one how they question your words or actions…whtd you say that??? did you say this..boy your mean…or if your speach isnt perfect its why did you say mou instead of mouth …kid clean your ears just a small example of whts in store…i know its not just mine e1 i know with girls this age are having the power struggle was it you C~A that said CALGON TAKE ME AWAY??? only i dont want to come back urggggg…….. HELP!!!!
C~A Did you see that they are investigating the deputy that took Kronk’s call in August as to how well he handled it?
Sheller, I agree about the use of the word “nanny” instead of babysitter. It does sound like a term people with a lot of money would use, or people from England. My understanding of a “nanny” is that this is a person educated in child care and a professionally screened, competent caregiver who does this for a career. A nanny usually lives with a family and tends to the children in their home, goes with the family on vacations, etc. A babysitter, on the other hand, is not necessarily skilled, not well paid, and does this work as something “extra” while going to school or raising her own children for extra spending money.
correction “its not that BAD but i dont want it on front page of googles lol sry*****
Nana I googled it and your name doesnt pop up..
You google that same sentence now that you just gave me
google.com/search?hl=en&q=Caylee+Anthony%3ABNn+on+Radio-show+%28and+like+Casey%29it+is+in+the+can.%29&btnG=Google+Search&aq=f&oq=
THIS IS WHAT I FOUND….AFTER GOOGLING THAT…JUST COPY/PASTE THAT LINK BEHIND THE http://WWW. IN YOUR BROWSER…maybe im not seeing it
anna - OMG - I have found my mouth saying ” I didn’t have kids for this”…and I meant it…the smart mouth, the comments, the loose lips, the excuses, the tantrums the know it all… I have 14,15 and 17 and they have respect issues when it comes right down to it…they are beautiful peeps but are so good at pushin buttons and boundaries…It’s so hard! At least we can put babies to bed…and they don’t tell ya to f off (yet)..ugh!
Nana I think it changed all ready…cus Im not seeing Nanna of 2 anywhere…it might of rotated out all ready
C~A tweenagers…blahhh my little bro is a tweenager…yikes..
i agree with you lulu yes you are so correct a nanny works for people who can afford her
anna
Wait til she’s 20 and tells you, “You know, you were right about all that.” The older they get, the smarter you’ll seem. from Sheller aka mamakeeks of 5
Did Tori ever come back from consulting with her cup of coffee?
i had a long post b4 and pc screwed up relating to dreams c~a nice to know im not the only one who has that stuff..sometimes i dont know if it just me or do other people have thoes to~~ anyway child has drained me shes in the shower now 1 hr till bed…will i make it or not???? probably she gets like this moody i know what shes going thru try and be patient, understanding…and sometimes she comes off a selfish brat!!!! accually a straight a student
but mouthy at x somehow still and always will love the kid with all my heart
see you guys in am..sorry to rant here on blog…i appo;ogise~nite anna
ok thanks pickles your a sweet heart & by the way you have a nice voice on radio lol
Lilred made it…w000t
does any know what happened to Caylees Carseat?
sheller i have a 27 yr old who has a even bigger mouth if possible…still doesnt realise ive lived a little longer and might know whats going on!!! oh yea till you get the call mom what do i do??? what happens if…boy howdy one of these days…POW TO THE MOON!!!
Thanks Nana…
Did you put that in Google…I did…Its not there anymore..it must of rotated out.
Anna your girl is 12…yah major tude then..I remember that age…woooh I was a spit fire to my mom and dad..
Nana Caylee’s car seat was in the car…in the sheriffs garage. Im pretty sure
night all (really this x) {{{{{{{HUGS}}}}}}} to my blogger family sweet dreams all & jan&simon…dont let the bed bug bite..not hard at least..till the am …zzzzzzzz
Sheller you have five kids too? ages?
SWEET DREAMS ANNA
I was a dork!
I kept my mouth shut all my life…I now make up for it
G’nite Anna…see jooh in the morning…
Sheller, lol at ‘old $’, my ex mil ( i’m still married to her son but she is oh so an ex ) used that term often. her daddy became an attorney during the depression so they were better than the rest & was she ever a bit~h & a half! we argued well, beings i was from the wrong side of the tracks & all!
seems he’s had complaints before so maybe he’ll get it now. i’m reading the link timbit posted earlier, has the report from 8/13 where he noted gray bag in swamp area.
as for the deputy, i see jelly donuts around him
I think its lazy cop syndrome as to why the body wasnt spotted and recoverd in AUgust
nanaof2 i believe the car seat & the doll both were in the car, along w/ a few diapers.
pickles i think he’s been sited like 3x’s for such actions. he should’ve investigated a bag in the swamp in THAT area for sure!
Hey JRS….sapponin?
I too see jelly donuts and bear claws blocking the foot patrols view who didnt want to get there gloves dirty looking a little harder for the body at Chicksaw trails
Yes the car seat and the doll were in the car…thats why I dont buy the whole she put the book there cus Caylee liked it….IF that was the case she would of left Caylee with her beloved dollie that she toted around forever
*Tap*Tap*…Fishies tank..*Tap*Tap*
C~A yes you are making up for it quite well….cus now you cant keep it shut at all…..
tee hee…
i don’t know why the book either, cuz i remembered the fave doll mama was in the car & that if she cared, umph..umph.., yea as if- she would’ve put her doll w/ her. so the book is odd, still wonder if shoes r there too.
Who was the woman making stuff in the video taken of baby sitting at the table with the book? Where was this?
pickles..on the contrary….I “refuse” to keep it shut! hahahah
that’s the rebel coming out in me ….
thanks jrsfarm just wondering police must have it
i was reading thru earlier while watching ng, how do u make ur tuna cassarole pickles, i have never made one but eat more tuna these days so thought i’d ask
CA - Are you talking about the video of Caylee that may have been taken at the assisted living center?
Took our kids, our one big vacation ever, to Flordia in about 1989. They had a radio game show called Cop or No-Cop. DJ would call donut places and the callin person had to predict cop or no cop to win some prize. True story.
BUT.. I think law enforcement has done a great job in the interviews, investigating, right from the beginning in this case. I think they’ve done a very professional job. The ants and all those physick tips made it harder than it should have been.
I think the woman in the vid was a health care provider at the old folks home Great Grampa was in…”Papa are you tired Papa” is that what she said to the old man?
yeah C~A i believe it was casey… it sounds like her / wasn’t that the last day they believe Caylee was alive ?
What is wrong with le ?
Why hasn’t that abandoned house been taped off and searched ?!
Guess where caylee may have been for long periods of time.
le won’t even listen
c~a, at the old folks home? where caylee is reading? thats where c’s dad is
I think if her book was left with the remains it was because it had icky stuff on it. Had to be “thrown out” with the rest, you know?
What is wrong with le ?
Why hasn’t that abandoned house been taped off and searched ?!
Guess where caylee may have been for long periods of time.
le needs to wake up
Ya I thought it might of been there in the old age home….so she was talkin to great g pa not g grinch! Just wondering why the book was in the bag and it looked like a caregiver or nanny or housekeeper in the vid…supporting the book being in bag cause ‘THE NANNY DID IT”
nana - If I understand what you’re talking about I don’t believe M went to the assisted living center on Father’s Day. Only C and Caylee.
in that video i found caylee to be tired or something was bothering her , she seemed to be hanging to her Great G father like (protect me”) she seemed to be such a loving child bless her
MTC - so your saying that the book may have been in the trunk?
thats the only reason i could think of MTC, i was over thinking how the icky stuff got there, just dawned on me could’ve been from being in the trunk.
5! Born 72, 75, 78, 80, 84.
Anna you have ESP - belated?
I have … a little.
There are two scenes - videos that bother me.
Saw them tonight on either Jane or NG.
The first one shows Caylee sitting very LOW down in a chair, in front of a table, obviously VERY frustrated. Keeps raising herself up, over and over again only to fall back down again. The second one, at the *SAME chair, at the same table*, where a very comfortable Caylee is reading that famous “book”. I can’t help but think of the first one, arranged by M to frustrate the little “snot head”? The second scene, maybe set up by Cindy,(a grandmother) making Caylee comfortable and happy? Probably sitting on cushions, or something to raise her up! I wonder if that is true, how many small hateful little things M (self described as a SPITEFUL BI**H), must have done to this baby that she hated - especially when alone with her. Did anyone else notice this and feel how I feel?
I think the book was in the bag cause that was the same night as the big fight.
not to say the woman in the vid was zanaida..i know that is not the case…but maggots got a crazy detailed mind..and think she would have done that to plant subliminal messages…the housekeeper image and the book…ZANNY MUST HAVE DONE IT…
ok mtc thought it was her yeah where would she obtain a Video camera the thief
oh she probably stole one if she had one lol
Sheller - LE really effed up the night of June 15 by not looking at the car, by letting C have all of M’s belongings that Leevil brought from Tony’s. They dropped the ball big time right then. That’s mostly what happened before the investigators got there. (I think).
And LE effed up on the calls from Kronk. Sounds like lazy low-level cops. Maybe the investigators are good but the lower echelon can ruin all that good work with their incompetence. The result of the trial might even be affected by those really huge mistakes.
THE REAL NANNY MAY HAVE BEEN THE ABANDONED HOUSE !
wake up le
LE has done a wonderfl job in the interviews and all the detecting work they have done…we are merely talkng about a couple of foot patrol officers dispatched to go look at Chicksaw trails..who chose not to get there gloves or feet dirty.
Search the house already I totally agree…do we know that they “havent” searched it? I said that earlier when we found out dum dick was searching black garbage bags at the house..that they went over that house with a fine tooth comb…
C~A you mean in the ant’s home? The woman is in the background? Caylee is sitting in that chair I spoke about in my previous post in the foreground? A black woman? Would she be so a maid or something? Gee, poor, poor ants.
See pickles, GOOD Career CHOICE! That book says medicine is THE field of the future! You can get a good home, support 4, have a maid, etc. How long will it take till you get your degree?
One of the audio interviews was the helper at the nursing home who remembered Caylee, described her as happy child. I think the ice cream cone in the face scene was one of the meanest kilr moments. Instigated by gma messing kilr face up first. Very disturbing to me.
Searchthehousealready..Thank you..we have been discussing that…its seems like a possibility dont it?
But Sheller here found some interesting tidbits regarding who she was really leaving Caylee with for a long time…
Jesse and his fam and some other chick…and other ppl like the grandparents..she really had it made even Kristina chester said she had sitters on tap
betty - The ants house did not look like that..that vid of baby had to be taken the visit to gr g pa on fathers day…it did not look like a home and the ants kitchen is small and dark…
I thought it was cake?
smith @ 7:46 - How about finding someone very needy who has refrained from committing a crime? Way more of them than there are “needy” people behind bars. Inmates get three meals a day, clothes, hot showers, heat, air conditioning, health and dental care.
MOST poor people don’t have any of that!!!!!!!
The vid of Caylee at that table was at the retirement home…where cindys dad was…that woman was a worker.
Yah there kitchen cuboards are dark green or black
mytwocents I agree. The woman officer levl said he knew in h.s.leaving the room, mistake. What do you think she grabbed out of the wallet? I think was the same one was in on some interviewing and her comments to responses were rather unprofessional. When I looked over some of the psychic tips though, some of the top detectives had to sign off on the transcriptions…time consuming drivvel. Melich, Edwards, Allen, Wells all seem outstandingly top notch, imo. Must be the weakest link theory at work.
Betty1 all of the training is free and I have to do cna first then rn then further if I choose..Im not sure…it dont start till the summer….Thank you!!!
CA - Sure the book could have been in the trunk or close to Caylee when she died. Somehow tainted so had to go! But doll and car seat were okay.
pickles…was it cake? I thought it was ice cream cone. my bad…I’ll have to go back and look now…another obsessive check..I just remembered it really bothered me. I noticed the grma cleaned off Caylee first, kilr had to wait her turn for the rag and she looked pisd.
In that vid Caylee is asking Papa if he’s tired…I think she’s talkng to c’s dad…you know killr’s grandpa..
It was at Caylee’s bday party….
Of course she looked mad c was caring more for Caylee then her…she’s way mondo jealous of Caylee..and hated to have to be around her..thats why she lied and said she was going to work for 2 yrs when she was really hanging with friends or at the bar or wherever pole was handy
betty1 - Please acknowledge the recent posts before everybody gets all screwed up about this! That video was shot at the assisted living center where Caylee’s great grandfather lives! It’s got nothing to do with their home. And M wasn’t there.
I thought the book was dumped in the woods because killr made mention of the book in the police reports.
Thats what im saying that vid was at the old great grandpas retirement assisted living home..and the woman in the back ground was a care provider…and Caylee was talkng and reading to Great Grandpa and c who was holding the camera
pickles (where ever there was a pole handy LOL
pickles Had a friend that was a beautician for 20 yrs. went back to school with her daughter, now they are both nurses. You’ll be a great nurse with your insight.
I hope so…
pickles You are so right! In the supposed phone call she received the morning of the 911 calls, she said Caylee was talking about reading the book and her shoes. I had forgotten all about that. YOU ARE GOOD.
C~A - did you see my kids ages…that’s the years they were born not their ages. Didn’t want you to think I was 100 or anything.
pickles before i say g’nite remember Casey dancing with a pole at fusion club ? look like she was swinging both ways ???know what i mean is she a Bi sexual ya think ??
Sheller said,in January 14th, 2009 at 9:10 pm mytwocents I agree. “What do you think she grabbed out of the wallet?”
When G was deposed at the bond hearing BB asked him if M had ever been out of the country, G said no, BB came w/ ‘even though she has a passport’
I had wondered what was grabbed out of the wallet as well then figured it was a passport after hearing that she had one, if what BB said it true. It made sense to me atleast.
Nana….there are over one thousand XXX pics of KC on her pc so I dont put nothing past her.
Gnite Nana!!
Sheller one of your kids is my age…1978 yah buddy..woop I love bein out of my 20’s!!!
Casey is autosexual, gets off on herself. Other people are a means to an end.
jns farm….I missed that, dang.I didn’t ever listen to that hearing. Could have been then. Makes sense to me too.
I always wondered if it was a z.gonzales ID and she was planning to become that person when she split from Florida. Her dad said she already had nanny as a previous job on her resume. She could have given herself a recommendation.
You are kidding, Pickles. By your voice, I figured you for barely past teenage. Really?
I’d like to go back to me 20’s Pickles- I would change some things & I’d already be out on parole
Oh, heck…I read your answer all wrong. One of my kids IS your age. Must be tired. You are a baby.
SearchHouse… I am sure the authorities searched that house a long time ago. Its in the neighborhood, why wouldn’t they?
I think the police dept and the prosecutors office have much more evidence than any of us could imagine. Just because they don’t blab it every day means nothing. I admire them for sticking to the case, hopefully putting together a slam dunk case and not being sucked into the media frenzy.
They are leaving that up to Baez & Co. and the Anthony’s criminal lawyers.
Now, what’s this about a NEW pathologist from Canada that is joining the Baez circus? I’ve lost count of all these “experts”!
Disturbing question… I wonder how many times a day Casey thinks of that little girl? And, if she DOES, what kind of thoughts would they be?
I meant that baby in a good way. If I were that age and know what I know now, couldn’t pull nothin over on me. 30’s are good.
Sheller yappers I am a ripe old 30 this year…back in NOvember..yappers..but im a tiny little thing of a full grown adult..Ive been this size since JR.High…I look like a tween..but alas I am not..
well C had already grabbed all the cash, u know the 1st thing u think when ur gchild is missing, so i thought maybe other id’s til i heard bb say that about a pp
Bet you still get carded though.
JRS PAROLE whatchoo talkng bout?
Yes I do….The only time I dont get carded is when I have my kids with me..screaming and flayling about..no one cards me when they are in tow…ahahaha…
JRS…shut up…out on parole…are you messing with me?
Jrsfarm; passport makes a lot of sense. Good one.
Good luck with that parole hearing :).
lol, is my mil joke, if i knew then what i know now i’d have handled her different & be out on parole
Elaine..yah I thought the same about the house…
And Sheller posted a great bit of info earlier about who killr was leaving Caylee with for quite sometime…The Grunds and various other friends…c and g..
I remember reading kristina chester said killr had sitters on tap…lots of friends willing to watch Caylee…even kristina watched her for killr
JRS..ahahaha…silly…your funny…your mil…
SO shes a mil not a milf…ahahaha
Good luck with that parole hearing..
Uhhh….shoot dang gumb ladies..jooh are on a role tonite…silly dahlings.
Killr was going to kill them all..yah..the chlorie searches…the neck breaking..she was going to off them all…yahh…
lulu thats funny i hear ya ,,
Cus…now that Sheller brought up all the ppl who actually did watch Caylee over the 2 yrs it makes sense..that the chlorie searches and stuff was for something else..not to drug bebe…but to kill c and g…
But c choked her out and she killed Caylee instead?
Did I read right g choked killr while she was on house arrest
They watch to much Simpsons.
LULU an autosexual…
yappers gets off on herself more than others…in an instant…go buddy…blehh I have to go wash out my mouth now.
Do I really sound like a young person..on the air..great now im gonna be all monotone next radio show…
Well, I’ve got to go…need to call in about this here monitoring device..that was a good one jrsfarm. Nite all..admit I don’t know what a mil or milf is…techno typo dummy. Tell me tomorrow. Hope it’s not a bad thing.
***kicking pebbles and trying to catch up~Pickles gets a pebble upside da head***
I was tappin on your tank along time ago…
Geez talk about slo!!!
Sheller…gnite
mil= mother in law
milf= mom id like to flock
Im wearing my safety helmet now…ahahaha
Pickles said,in January 14th, 2009 at 9:42 pm
“Did I read right g choked killr while she was on house arrest They watch to much Simpsons”
lol simpsons! padilla or tim said g was choking m or trying to choke her??
i have to go let the dog out for a bit
Hey I got to go for a bit…kids bedtime..bbiab..
*throws rocks* at Fish…ahahahaha….you have to catch up now…ahahahahaha…tap tap tap…
Yah Ill be back to..
UGH I’m a bad blogger…
The real original nanny was XANAX…Zanny’s…
The woods…the names…just good ‘clicks’ for a psycho…ugggghh
Sheller, yes Nanny’s are often trained, and often live in the home. Many come from other countries. Some are educated. I knew some of them in PA. Friends had them.
Good we keep picking up on these Sociopath traits. Delusions of grandeur is one. “Oh yes … my deeeeaaa. I am BETTER than the rest!” SHE WISHES! Can you imagine this thing taking pictures of people getting off RIDES at wherever it was …amusement park. THAT was her career? And IT has a NANNY? RIGHT! So sick … totally OUT of IT! It is so disgusting.
FL has strange laws when it comes to immunity. What can we GET out of any of the Anthony’s? ONLY lies, lies, lies.
good eveing everyone, I am here… saw NG and wow more news about leevil? whats up with that?>
C~ oh I see. I wasn’t sure if they had one of these open type kitchens. So that chair where she is reading her book is at the Home with the Great grandfather? OH my head does S P I N.
I acknowledge! No need to plead the 5th!
Yes it was the Home.
We don’t need MORE confusion here, sorry about that. More than we can handle on our plates!
Yes, I recall some videos of the house, the small kitchen has dark cabinets I think.
GREAT going Pickles. Free education!! GO all the way, RN here we come!
I think you can tell I am not feeling great, tonight.
‘nite buds. Take it easy. Will watch re-run of NG and read… early nite.
No nanny here in MW USA. BUT…you’re ABSOLUTELY right.
It was cake, good observation pickles, cake is a little better.
But heck, I looked for my reading glasses for 20 minutes yesterday before I realized they were on my face. Not as bad as freezing her face with ice cream like I thought. Kilr still looked ticked, like she messed up Caylee and tried to hand off to gma. jmo
Lilred
regarding your 8:08 post asking me to explain why I think it may be important.
I think so because “someone” had to have sent the PIs there, and if they can trace it back to any of the Ants it will help the prosecution because it will force the Ants to take the stand against her if if they want to avoid prosecution themselves, as how could they have known specifically where to look (IE-by the pavers) without info from M. If word came directly from M through her lawyer, it still works to help convict.
Even the fact that they are digging around can provide some reasonable doubt about the sanctity of the body because if they poked around there, how do we know they didn’t also poke around the spot where the body lay.
pickles-
I have to second that you sound really young on the radio. I was so surprised the first time I heard your voice. Somehow, from reading your posts, I had the impression you were older, and maybe a bit rougher around the edges than you sound in person. Your radio voice convinced me you were a lot younger, and now that i read your birthdate, you turn out to be somewhere in between.
I think maybe your “Eunice thing” was what swayed me originally into thinking you might be a little rough around the edges, or it could be the way you play with the written word.
funny though, how words can paint a mental picture.
XOXOXOXO…I havent heard nothing regarding eddie munstr’s new charges
Or was it criminal immunity…hmmm whatsa criminal to do?
Hey I gotta go now..
G’nite you guys…
I aint rough around the edges at all…im actually really nice and gentle… Eunice is just to funny..
Fish made it up!!!
Timbit..its how I write..I likes to be silly…
G’nite y’all….see you manyana
Thanks for the “sitters” time line Sheller..it makes sense to me.
JRSFARM morning… re post 9:38 pm 14th…
OR ANYONE THAT Could answer this….
THIS could be the dumbest question yet..but you said something about
‘being out on parole by then’ - what do you mean by that??? Gotta quit
doing drugs..haha..meds.
lilred morning i think they were talking about later in life a what if~
Morning Peeps!!!
As i read and reread some of the comments about the ‘where’ m was putting Caylee when she wasn’t at home with c & G.
My theory is that she drugged Caylee and either 1. she put her in the\
trunk.. more than once. Or 2. She drugged Caylee, took her with her
with her to parties.. while Caylee ’slept’ right thru everything.
Didn’t someone mention that when m brought Caylee with her places
that Caylee was already ‘crashed” (drugged) and she slept thru all
the partying?? I thought I read that somewhere..
Anna…OHH.. okay, that makes sense.. thanks!
GEEZ.. maybe I shouldn’t post until I have had my coffee!! I think I am
only getting half of what I should be getting!!! LMSAO..(laughing my sleepy ass off) hmmm…..
Hey I have a question..
In order for someone to be eligible for parole, doesn’t that person have to admit guilt and show remorse??
sheller 1/14 @7:36 thanks for posting that at least caylee had real babysitters sometime-who did c take shopping??was it dakota??? 500 is a lot of money to spend on someone who is not a family member- as for thoes people who donate money to m…they shouldd donate to something not evil..like tim miller i think he would appreciate 20.00 and be greatfull more than m was gonna say 1 more thing …have to go back and read…c~a you up yet??? bus start??? its -23 here need cig but dont want to go outside!
oh yea the book found in the woods..m claimed she got that phone call day b4 from caylee and she was talking about her book..and shoes, wonder if its been proven to be hers yet???
in some cases alot of the time the person has just done thier time..also i think it has to do with thier charge and thier behavior….diffrent states have diffrent parole rules…
i also think caylee spent more than once in the trunk…as hard as that is to think about…sometimes my posts dont make sence to me after i post them…my thoughts dont match the words i put down its hard to express my feelings in writing..know what i mean???
Morning Anna - Lil
anna - sorry been tied up for a bit…yup bus started, i have a good one..had her plugged in and it’s somewhere around minus 30 this beautiful Canadian day!
Yes, they would have to admit guilt, be on very good behaviour, show remorse and state exactly why they think they would be a productive member of society and deserve parole in the first place. IMO and to my knowledge.
lil - I heard that she did drag her to at least one party and prob. more then that…and that she slept on the couch through the whole thing…drugged for sure…you can’t take a 2 year old to a place with lot’s of peeps and noise and music and laughing, and have her say ok to missing out on all the fun…plus it’s not her place and most babies REFUSE to sleep anywhere but their own beds.
yep kids are gonna stay up if they can especially if lots of people are around…mine had to literly pass out at family gatherings, not the same as party but people were up late playing games and stuff
See I guess I figured on baby being gone most of the time as opposed to being at home with grich …so I think there were prob. only pockets of time in which she drugged her when she didn’t have a sitter and needed a fix. She would drag her alone and drug her so she wouldn’t iterfere. When she would actually HAVE to put her in the trunk to be babysat would possibly be on her excursions to FUSIONS…when sin wouldnt babysit.
It’s too bad that we didn’t have an ounce of truth come out of grandas mouth or we wold have a better idea of how many times maggott told her that she was going out for the night and baby was going to Zannys….
Remember when she said to sindee i think one time that the baby was spending the weekend at the nannys and they were going to the beach etc..where was caylee for that WHOLE WEEKEND?
so many puzzling things..wasnt that after she was missing and c didnt know??? when caylee was spending all the time with nanny was after she was gone
the month m was gone was when she was saying caylee was spending all the time with nanny..b4 c made m come home and she never spent weekends with her..right??
coincedentaly e1 involved with this case is missing thier phone or phone records….WOW! could it be cuz they are lying!!!!! immagine that!
That is what I was trying to iron out last night…when did the whole nanny story get made up? Your right, i think it was when baby was missing that she told sidee about the weekend with the nanny…but sindee says she has been talkin about zanny for for about 2 years…that HAS to be a lie…it was prob. only just made up around the time she started to change, with the new friends etc…in the spring when she started really planning what she was going to do to caylee. I bet that sin and grinch never heard of her which is why sin looked up the name on google…oh guess she had a reason to finally talk to the nanny in her mind…the idiot…so she is either lying to protect maggot with knowing about the nanny OR she is an even bigger a@@ thinkin this nanny existed for that long and never once pick up on the fact that she never existed! Any one with half a brain would figure that out pretty quick..anyone that cared actually
cant that pysic get in trouble for lying to police??? how stupid these people are imo!
Good Morning, All!
Yes, anna, I think you are right. Most of the times we are wondering where Caylee was - and the times that M told C and her friends she was with Zanny - were after June 15 when Caylee was already dead.
I think before that M dragged her around, dumped her with friends to babysit and left her with her parents most of the time.
I think once M got into the latest crowd of friends is when Caylee became more of a problem. First because she may have blamed Caylee for guys not wanting a more serious live-in relationship with her. And then blamed Caylee because Tony L “seemed” to be okay with the live-in relationship but it did not include Caylee (who he thought had grandparents and a nanny to take care of her).
phone records…saying “IT DOESN’T SHOW UP ON MY RECORDS BUT I MADE or recieved THE CALL” is like lookin a child, hands and face full of chocolate and asking them if they ate it and they shake their head “NO”….
HOw bout sidees visa records did LE ever get them? To see the purchases that possibly m had made close to time of caylee death?
CA - It’s possible that M made up the whole zanny nanny thing back when she lost her job at Universal but kept pretending she had a job.
She’d “go to work” and would have to tell her folks who was taking care of Caylee while she worked. At least those times that G couldn’t take care of her (cause he was out of work a lot in those days I think).
MTC - so sindee is lying as usual about hearing for over a year and then some about zanny….surprise..
i think maybee m drugged baby in the past a few x zannax(zanni) thought she was cute making the fake nanny and name she told c&g it wasnt exacally a lie..that why they heard the name for a few yrs…i dont understand why c didnt demand a emergency # tho unless m gave her the run around about that to…aalso in jail tapes c is asking m is this a pic of zannis house??? we know whos house it is allready..did zanni play the drums??? this pic shows drums and we know whos house this is…supposidly zanni did have drums but wrong house it was tonys
morning MTC
who did c take shopping and spend 500 on??? was it dakota??? i never heard that b4
Good Morning all.
Wow, am I glad we don’t live in Cedar Rapids,Ia. anymore. Dangerous Wind Chill -50. It’s 31 degrees right now where we’re at. CA,Anna, you ladies warm right now?
morning mtc&paw yep im warm as long as im inside…need smokes tho..c~a want to pick thoes up for me cince your going out anyway??? kids dont have school today to cold so i dont have to go out except for stupid cig
Right after we left Cedar Rapids,Ia in April last year, it flooded, past the 500 year chart thingy too. The house we were living in was under water. I have a feeling it’s going to happen again.
I have always felt Zanny the Nanny meant XanaX from day one of hearing about it.
Jill from Australia….really Australia? You’re welcome.
CA - Yes I would not believe Sindee about hearing or not hearing about Zanny all this time without corroboration from friends of M’s.
But I do think anna’s probably right about M talking about “Zanny” really meaning xanax for a while. Like the reason Caylee was totally zonked at parties. M probably thought it was funny.
funny thing all this time the ants and e1 involved were claming caylee was alive…so this pi just searched a area for kicks…also if this pycic was directing the ants pi why would the ants go along with that if they wouldnt believe evedince from le???? they contradict themselfs with there actions!
Down to 6 degrees here this morning. Midwest U.S. Land of Dorothy and toto.
suppose a live caylee was living on her own in the abandon house??? yea thats it 2 yrs old living on her own in abandon house hmm…
Anna did you hear that Lee DOES want immunity???
i bet lv does… gee and i thought he was so honest…NOT!!!!
You know the only person I’ve heard of who recognized that M had serious problems - particularly with telling the truth - was her friend from childhood, Kiomarie Cruz. I remember in her statement she told of a fairly recent time (within the year before Caylee died) that she ran into M who told her she was working someplace or other. As it happened that’s where Kio was working. And bless her heart she told M she should get help. See a counselor or someone. I believe I’m remembering that correctly. In all of this I feel sorriest for Kiomarie. She was totally dissed by M as a child - wasn’t she the one M told couldn’t come in her house because C hates hispanics? Yet she offered to adopt Caylee because she can’t have children. And M told her that Caylee’s middle name was for HER middle name (Marie -but what a lie! It’s M’s middle name too). And then she catches M in lies and suggests she get help. AND she tells the cops the best place to look for Caylee and they eff it up. I can’t imagine how Kiomarie feels. She sounds like a good person.
PAW - I read a quote on wdbo I think from an LE official saying there was no investigation into Leevil etc. No reason to expect charges to be brought against him. If that’s true why would Luka announce that it was a possibility?
I don’t know what or who to believe anymore.
LE had better be looking at Leevil really hard and considering charges. Although even then he’ll be just like his mother. Couldn’t tell the truth if his life depended on it.
Tony and roommates did have a rule about her not being at the apartment when they weren’t there. PAW69, where did you hear the Levil wanting immunity deal?
M2C, you know what goes through my mind alot, That phone call between Casey and I think the other girl’s name was Christi. She said that if anything happened(s) to Caylee she’ll die. She was devastated as well. Casey is so cold hearted, hell, she doesn’t even have a heart. Casey has put EVERYONE through the meat grinder
so if in fact m was innocent and there was a nanny and a kidnapping, why would anyone need immunity??? for what shouldnt the nannys family be asking for that??? arent the ants suppose to be innocent victoms??? never heard of a innocent person not involved be asking for immunity..i could be wrong but i dont believe thats the way it works is it???
Sheller - I remember that now. And M was not allowed to stay at Tony’s while he went home to NY June 30 for a week. What kind of bf or live-in relationship is that? Left M “homeless!” Had to go beg Amy for a place to stay. Unbelievable!! And she’s cooking for Tony L and cleaning and doing laundry. And probably killed Caylee so she could be with him more! She’s NUTS!
and during that call to christy m states “all they care about is caylee” HELLO shes the one missing!
It was on NG last night that Lee wants immunity. Let me see if I can find anything else on it. Because it is confusing that LE says he’s not looking at charges yet he’s wanting immunity. If he’s still living with mom and dad, why would he go tell all to LE….
Paw69, I agree about that call. With kilr saying, omg, calling you guys, a waste. Like she couldn’t believe they were even this upset. Getting arrested on a whim, I think she said. VERY telling as to her maternal concern. Pretty sickening from the narccisitic, self absorbed, egocentric witch. Calling boyf was of the utmost importance at that moment.
Makes a real mom want to scream and maybe grab her neck. sorry, couldn’t help it.
Yeah Anna, That pissed me off too. Of course that’s all they care about.
The way she was ordering everyone around..from a jail really bothered me. NO GET ME TONY’S NUMBER, I’m not talking to anyone else. Then sicky sweet…you know I love you, I’ll have to call you later. GET ME TONY’S Number. And they just let her….except levl I guess.
C~A I never saw the credit card records. Gma said she brought in receipts or something and they told her they needed the statements. ??? Weren’t in any disc. documents I read, but they said they were keeping somethings “close” when they could.
Okay, Found it. This is from http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/14/ng.01.html
Straight out to Natisha Lance, our producer, on the story from the very beginning. Natisha, what can you tell me about possible immunity, criminal immunity, for tot mom brother Lee Anthony?
NATISHA LANCE, NANCY GRACE PRODUCER: Well, that is the big question tonight, Nancy, is will Lee Anthony get immunity? Apparently, his attorney, Thomas Luca, is worried that Lee could possibly face obstruction charges or aiding and abetting charges. Now, what he`s trying to do is seek a subpoena for Lee Anthony. If he`s given the subpoena, he would then get immunity. Now, the caveat is…
GRACE: Whoa, whoa, whoa! Wait, wait! If he`s given a subpoena, he automatically gets immunity?
LANCE: That`s right. Under Florida law, he would be given immunity. Now the caveat to that is, Nancy, if he`s given this immunity, he has to take stand in the murder trial. He cannot plead the 5th. He has to get up there, tell his story, tell exactly what he knows. If Casey did give him inside information, he has to spill it all on the stand during that murder trial.
GRACE: OK, let`s unleash the lawyers. We are taking your calls live. Joining me tonight out of the Atlanta jurisdiction, veteran criminal defense attorney, Renee Rockwell. Also joining me out of New York, Hugo Rodriguez, defense attorney, former fed with the FBI.
C & G tend to play follow the leader with Lee. So I have to wonder, IF this takes place with Lee, Will C & G follow???
This sounds like a publicity stunt. Couldn’t the date of the camera be changed? (Mine always has the wrong date because I forget to change it.) The date and time are so very obvious on the screen - why? So not only does the “private” investigator get media coverage - but also the psychic. Wow she knew exactly where the body was but she doesn’t know how she died or anything else about her death? I smell a decomposed rat!!
With everyone else being investigated now, I have a feeling Lee is going to take that immunity. After what DC pulled, Lee is probably going to save his own butt now.
That Psychic is so full of it. She’s already been discredited by someone who paid her $5,000 and they didn’t get anything right from her.
And of course, Cellphone companies aren’t doing the phone bills right. LMAO WHATEVER. Ya know, I have T-Mobile, and I hate it. BUT!, My bill has always been right with every single call.
Here’s how I see it with Lee, He wants Casey to pay for what she did, but at the same time he doesn’t want “the family secret” to come out, (Lee being the father). He doesn’t want that to ruin what’s left of his parent’s reputation. He’s in a damned if he does, damned if he doesn’t situation. (IF he is Caylee’s father), He’s going to have to realize what’s more important, (His daughter’s death) and Casey pay for what she has done, Or His family’s reputation. Now all of this is just my personal opinion none the less. But it’s the closest thing that make sense to me right now. I could be off, or I could be right. Either way, it doesn’t look good for the family.
I thought I would fall over laughing when I heard that “psychic” say that she was a professional “douser.” Someone needs to find a barrel of water and douse her!!!
WHat a liar and fraud and I hope she gets into BIG trouble!
Has anyone heard if Leevil lost his job or quit long ago to go “investigate?” I’m asking because I don’t understand why he’s moved in with his parents. Unless he was living with Mallory and the apartment is in her name and she kicked him out.
He has to know what this looks like. Baby boy going home and/or “circling the wagons.”
I hope I don’t offend anyone here when I sat this…..She’s a Blonde, There’s the first clue lmao. Sorry, The blonde jokes came out really bad that night. lol
I’m not sure why he moved back home. I thought it was to some how comfort/protect C & G. Who knows though.
PAW - It’s okay. She’s a bottle blonde. There is nothing real about that woman. If she’s such a professional at “finding” things why can’t she find her brain or some common decency?
so lee wants immunity, but I heard it’s not blanket immunity it’s something else…where he gets off on any involvment in exchange for his testimony to sink his sister. Anything he says can’t be used against him but if they come up with evidence of a crime he hasn’t spoke about, he can still be charged!
I noticed the “psychic” stumbled a lot when answering questions. Kind of immature answers too. “My dad get’s the bill” “My dad says it wasn’t on there”. Just the way she said it, made her sound like a child.
CA, yes , exactly.
GRACE: OK, let`s unleash the lawyers. We are taking your calls live. Joining me tonight out of the Atlanta jurisdiction, veteran criminal defense attorney, Renee Rockwell. Also joining me out of New York, Hugo Rodriguez, defense attorney, former fed with the FBI.
Renee, try, put it in a nutshell. How do you get immunity by just getting a subpoena? That doesn`t sound right to me.
RENEE ROCKWELL, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Nancy, if he`s potentially a target for any type of charges, if they want his testimony, they`re going to have to give him something in exchange, which equals immunity.
GRACE: I know that. But again, that wasn`t my question. Hugo Rodriguez…
HUGO RODRIGUEZ, DEFENSE ATTORNEY: Sure.
GRACE: … there`s more to getting immunity than a subpoena showing up in your mailbox via registered mail. You got to work out immunity deal.
RODRIGUEZ: No, not in the state of Florida, Nancy.
GRACE: Good. Explain.
RODRIGUEZ: The law in the state of Florida is if a state attorney subpoenas any witness, that witness has immunity.
GRACE: Oh, you`re talking about use immunity, not blanket immunity.
RODRIGUEZ: Yes. Exactly. Exactly.
GRACE: OK. I understand.
RODRIGUEZ: So obviously, they want to talk to him. He doesn`t have a privilege. He doesn`t have a legal privilege…
GRACE: Right.
RODRIGUEZ: … of any conversations he`s had with his sister or anyone else.
GRACE: And very quickly, explain the difference between use immunity and blanket immunity.
RODRIGUEZ: Anything he says to them, they cannot use against him in a criminal prosecution. If they could otherwise prove any other crime without use of his own words, they could still prosecute him.
GRACE: Now, let`s think about it. Why would tot mom brother Lee Anthony need criminal immunity? Let`s go to Leonard Padilla, bounty hunter who first bailed the tot mom out of jail and then planned and executed an exhaustive search for little Caylee`s remains. Why would Lee Anthony need criminal immunity, Padilla?
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: Somebody had to get the information where the body was back on August the 11th, also to the private detectives. He might be part of that daisy chain I`ve been talking about.
GRACE: Oh, you and the daisy chain again!
PADILLA: Me and the daisy chain.
Hi ALL…again!!
Boy, I leave to stuff my face full of food and everyone wakes up.LOL
Other than stating the obvious (IMO) I think when she couldn’t find a “real” babysitter, she took Caylee along.. with her tummy/head full
of “xannies”.. I think she did put her in the trunk-to sleep- more
times than not. I believe the real problem then with Caylee is she was
getting older - prob harder for m to silence her, Caylee was talking etc,,
the wonder-snatch was getting tired of playing mommy. Not fun anymore.. so POOF baby gone…POOF I can party all I want now.. even a plus, now I can take the pills I used to have to zonk Caylee out..
MORE FOR ME….
Hate that biotch…
I guess I should have posted that part too. But yes CA, you are right about the immunity and charges ect.
morning everyone…
hmm… many questions…. i missed the whole psychic thing , just reading you guys posts..
then you know what? when i get so confused about this case, I still say theres enough ammo to put M away even without all the mess. does anyone agree???
I mean the psychic, p.i.’s , leevil, ants, deputy, kronk, without all of this distraction, the fact remains they have enuf to convict her… they know she did this…
i wonder now what the polls would show before it was like 80% guilty….
so i guess what I mean is when all is said and done will a jory convict? i say yes.. and i think it will be overwhelming ( I am praying anyways)
So if the state subpoena’s Leevil and he testifies the state cannot use anything he says against HIM? Is that the law in Florida? Or is that the special immunity he wants?
I’m still confused. NG should not rush people who are “educating” the rest of us on the law!
I have to wonder, and I’ve thought about this for a long time, I don’t know if it would matter or not,,,, But I wonder if the b/fs who didn’t want Caylee to be brought over, if they feel guilty now as well. On the terms of , if they would have let Casey bring Caylee, maybe she’d still be alive, kind of thing. I know Casey probably would have still done it. But I have to wonder the same thing, ya know.
kowing what we know now about M… and having a child same exact age, I can see that wehn caylee started talking this drove M insane…being the way she was (m)… i would imagine caylee was most talkative, ( mine talks from 7am -10pm)…lol so , if M were trying to get out and party, i think your right, this was annoying her… she had to silence her one way or the other…
so sad
when i see caylee shown on tv it hurts my heart so much to realize shes actually gone.. its hard to believe something that beautiful is gone… and we’ve all watched it play out right before our eyes. and we see the reason she isn’t here any longer, thats why this case has touched us… most of us pray nothing happens to our kids.. you worry about everything… murder is something , or the last thing you would think happening..
XO, They have enough to convict her, even before the remains were found. The rest of this stuff is just that, Distraction.
M2C, Okay, if he tells LE ALL and get’s on the stand and tells ALL, he will get immunity, meaning he will not be charged for anything. Unless they find something he didn’t mention, then he can be criminally charged for that. Otherwise, anything he says, will not be used against him. So basically, I scratch your back, you scratch mine.
paw- agree
thats why this other distraction stuff is just that.. I mean time will tell if anyone else goes down the river you know.. ants lee , casey etc…
my hope is that all of this isn’t enough to botch the case.. but I don’t think so, I still feel confident a conviction will be with an overwhelming vote..
i picture the jurors coming out and talking later about it, and them saying it was UNANIMOUS.. ( spell check)…lol
thats my picture in my head, i picture M sobbing and ants too blah blah, and I picture us all celebrating the day that victory and justice happened.
What’s Baez going to do? Botch himself? LMAO It was HIS original PI. LMAO
XOXOXO.. 8:21 post
Yes, I still believe that there is alot of stuff to put her away.. for good, I hope.
yes I think its all coming back to bite him… regardless of how it all looks now, ( bad) with the mess going on, I still say conviction, overwhelming…
the fact remains she cannot explain away the mountains of evidence.. and neither can baez… he cannot explain any of it.. from her ridiculous interrogation, the lies, the reeking car, no zanny, i mean he better not come out going for the crap with the body etc… cause he better be finding a way to explain all the other stuff…
Good Morning all… I don’t know why someone would willingly step into this case with how bad it smells… The other night they had the psychics pic up on NG, you’d think she’d sense that people would hate her for lying like that…
or he is going to come out saying someone else killed poor little caylee… ridiculous!!!!
this trial is going to be one of the most interesting I have followed since O.J.
and that one was a joke..
this one is second…
they can try all they want to use this mess right now about the remains etc… but the fact remains they have forensics, they have her own statements, they have the fact she was the last one to see caylee, and she didnt report her missing, its almost open and shut… in a way except every weirdo came out of the woodwork to either make money, or try to cause distraction, and then you get the other people, the media, with so much speculation, we’ll see at trial..
I don’t think any of this is helping Baez’s dream team at all. If anything, it’s hurting the dream team really bad. It shows they will go to any lengths to try and get Casey off. He has already pissed in the cheerios of all the judges involved in every case on Casey.
2 things I’m waiting for to consider it an open-shut case. 1) Toxicology 2) Finger print(s) on the duct tape/bags.
yes exactly,.. so when i get a tiny bit worried , i come back to reality and say no shes going down, no doubt, this other stuff or other people will be charged if they should be, ants too, and then in say a year or two M will be rotting away in jail for eternity and some justice will have won…
I hate her..
i hate the fact she took this child out for no good reason, none. its like a bad dream ..
i also am starting to hate these other people involved who are either lying, or wanna mke money off a dead child…
yes am wondering when the heck the tox report will come out…
Anyone ever wonder, If the economy wasn’t so bad, would all these people still be involved. It’s such a sick minded thought that due to our economy, people need to make money some how and they are using Caylee to pay their bills. UGHHH!!!
yah I dont like any of them, any of the people involved in this case… none… nor do i trust any of them.. anyone on the side of M do i trust…
maybe the father george, maybe this poor man went along with what he had to, for fear of being killed by C lol i dont know he did do the right thing…
XO, omg, ya know, I never thought about that. He is afraid of C. He is stuck. Maybe he is in true fear. Only God knows the answer to that though. I bet when he’s alone he prays for God’s help.
In that interview he did say that he wanted it all to stay between them. He didn’t want C or anyone else to know what he told them. Maybe there was a good reason for that. I bet when that interview was shown on TV, she threatened him. I can see her being deceitful,hateful,and threatening.
XOXOXO,,, 8:26 post…
You said it perfectly, as mothers we never stop worrying.. it is our job.
But WOW.. sin and m really blew their jobs. Look how m turned out..
and look at what happened to Caylee. Some people should never be
allowed to have children. I hope to God that m doesn’t have any more
children, she doesn’t deserve them. There should be mandatory sterilization for child killers.. without sedation.
The 5th amendment should be taken out. They should also have a device that you have to be hooked up to while on the stand that will record if you are lying or not, one that everyone in the courtroom can see. Because if you really think about it, All your doing when you plea the 5th is basically saying ” your guilty”, but you don’t want to tell what you did.
I get on my elliptical every nite at 8p and watch NG. My 11 yo twins came down and were talking to me and said that Caylee looks like such a happy baby, every picture she has a big smile… They love babies and toddlers, always the ‘big sisters’… They know bits and pieces of the story and don’t understand how a Mommy could do that, it’s not what Mommies are made to do…
PAW & XOXOXO..
Look what m did to her own child. I don’t think she would hesitate one
bit getting rid of mommy & daddy. She has no conscience…she threw her baby away in a garbage bag in the swamp.. if anyone could do that, they are capable of anything..
When she talked to her friend(don’t know who), she told them that she was getting c & g’s house.. George could be scared for his life. I know
I would be.
I wonder (God forbid) that she walks on this, do you think she would
move back into her old room?? C & G better sleep with one eye open..
I watched a video that I thought was a sort of bombshell to me. Recommend watching but in a nutshell…
Wftv FBI interview Cindy no. 3 of 11 Aug 7
1. Cindy suggests that Casey’s confusing story about Zenaida is really code talk for Amy Huizenga (same height, same employer, same car story) and that the fake Jeff who introduced her is really R. Morales. (Hence the later public statement, we know who you are and you are being watched”)
AhHa. NOW I get it. Zenaida is Amy.
2. Cindy reports that before the final call to 911, Lee said why would you want us to wait until tomorrow morning to take us to Cayle, why get police involved…why not just take us to her now? Casey responds “I don’t want to disrupt her life…because from here on out, Caylee’s life will never be the same.” (last 30 seconds of the interview.)
3. Despite C bringing 100 page notebook of what she feels are red flags, FBI agent writes 2 things down. The concept of what a red flag is, is completely haywire. Cindy states she never asked Casey what she meant by that statement. (no red flag) Casey is practically spelling it out for her mom to get prepared for the reality. Could she just have said :Is Caylee dead? and gotten what she needed.
Bmore, My kids go through the same thing. They still ask “WHY”???? “HOW”???? Daughter is 10, Son is 12. They share something special with Caylee though, Daughter shares middle name and Son shares birthday with Caylee. Kids understand more than they get credit for. I still and listen to them all the time. Even about this case. It’s amazing how much they really do understand.
good morning every one :
-21 here cold brrr , lol ,nice refreshing air’ “this is what i found”..
America’s Nannies professionally screened & referenced Nannies .
“I’m not going to post all , I have 2 pages in front of me” …
A Nanny is a person whose primary & sometimes ONLY function is limited to caring for the children.
what is a Nanny? A nanny is not a maid, a Nanny is not a general house keeper, “it goes on … & here is a good point tv stories of people whose children have been abused by caregivers often mistakenly identified as Nannies read it its interesting sound like aNanny would be close to you living in your home you would need to afford someone like her
(she had a Nanny & baby sitter which in my book there wasn’t any … Bull!, she is degrading the Name (Nanny) especially Cindy ,
Night, Cindy’s theory about Amy being “Zenaida” is so off the wall, it’s unreal. If Amy was “Zenaida”, you really think she would go anywhere with Cindy? You really think she would take her to where Casey was? She would have stayed in Puerto Rico. LOL. Cindy is just like Casey. Willing to point the finger at anyone and everyone , EXCEPT the 1 person who is really guilty,,,, CASEY herself.
NIGHTINGALE.. POST 9:02 AM..
You know I have wondered about that too. Maybe someone/anyone would have come right out and asked m, she may - MAY - have
told the truth.. for once in her life.
But I wouldn’t bet on it!!! LOL
BBL ladies and gent(?)..
Cindy failed to ask Casey the 1 major question. DID YOU KILL CAYLEE??? Hell Casey basically spelled it out for Cindy, And Cindy still didn’t get it, and still doesn’t get it.
no i don’t think she would have confessed but I would guess Casey at least would have been put on the spot. Every turn neither parent can put Casey on the spot, direct quesitons. the least you will get as a parent is body language which is sometimes enough.
paw about tony feeling guilty i bet he does, but he probably didnt expect her to kill caylee, just didnt want the responsobility of a kid around…having to watch make sure they dont hurt themselfs..i think its better to say that then have her bring her over if no one watches her…well either way caylee didnt wim
good morning Paw: are you kidding Cindy would’nt dare ask Casey that question even if casey admitted Cindy would say Oh you are covering for someone
I think i mentioned this before about a killer who was caught , ,convicted D.N.A proved it, HIS mother till her dieing day swore “HE didn’t do it” isn’t that something ???
with tat sentance m said and all the evedince how can c still defend her??? shes made other statments regarding caylee to and they still defend.
i would bet if m admitted to it c would still claim someone was forcing her to say that and m felt threatened so she admited to it…they will never believe the truth, and if for some god awful reason m gets off i will always believe shes guilty!
There are times I go back and forth with Cindy and her actions. C & G have been drug through the mud in all directions. I feel for them on a natural level. At the same time, I’m so angry with what they have said and done. I’m only human and so are they. My heart is torn in 2 with them. It’s hard to explain I guess. No matter how I look at the big picture, The fact still remains that Casey is and was an adult when she killed Caylee. She can’t use the fact of how she was raised for her actions. She knew right from wrong. There are plenty of people that weren’t brought up with the best of parents who are very good people as adults. The way Cindy was raised, could be the same way she raised her kids. Maybe Cindy’s mother did the same thing with Cindy. The “Evil” cycle that just keeps going. Casey just broke the cycle by killing Caylee. Is the behavior we see in Cindy “normal” for Cindy and her family? Is it “normal” to clean up family messes? Sometimes when people are raised a certain way, that’s all they know. Most people break the cycle when they are adults. But some people don’t.
Sorry for babbling. I try to understand more than my brain allows me to.
not suggesting all Nannies are perfect
I’m sure some were fired by their employer
but in this case , a nanny did not exist
yes Paw you have something there . i agree with you 100%
as a parent , we know when our kids a lieing I do any way, even tho they will not (didn’t) admit it I’m refering when they were teens ,,,
the facts the evidents the time line 31 days not reporting her missing, come-on Cindy (shake your head)
Anna, Can us mothers truly say we wouldn’t defend our own children. As much as we knew they were guilty, Can we say we can truly let go of them?
This is sad because not only did they lose their granddaughter, they are going to lose their daughter as well.
Now naturally, we would be angry at the world because we lost our granddaughter,especially to the hands of our daughter.
This is why my heart is torn in 2. In one hand I feel for them, on the other hand I have such hatred for what they are doing.
I couldn’t imagine what I would or could go through if something like this happened to me.
Naturally I would feel like it’s my fault, like, where did I go wrong, what could I have done differently for this not to have happened.
Maybe that’s where Cindy feels she have to clean up and cover up, She feels it was her fault.
By all means, I’m not trying to sway either way. I just want to understand it all.
What can I do right now as a mother to make sure this doesn’t happen to my family? I feel I’m doing everything I know of right. At the same time, This can happen to anyone. It does scare me to some degree.
I feel that if Casey walks, It will send a very bad message to our kids as a whole. I don’t want that to happen.
PAW69 said,
in January 15th, 2009 at 7:22 am
M2C, you know what goes through my mind alot, That phone call between Casey and I think the other girl’s name was Christi. She said that if anything happened(s) to Caylee she’ll die. She was devastated as well. Casey is so cold hearted, hell, she doesn’t even have a heart. Casey has put EVERYONE through the meat grinder
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PAW– I also have obscesed about that phone call. I think Christi was the one who answered the phone when Casey was in jail and called to talk to somebody at the ant’s house; Christi kept her on the line to talk out of true concern for Caylee. Christi asked all of the obvious questions that anybody with a normal brain and heart would have. Caylee had a convincing, poised response to all of those along with a placating, yet dismissive, tone…subtitle: “are we through yet so I can talk to the person I really called to talk with???”
I think the reason this conversation stays with me is because so often in life I am the Christi and people around me are placating just to get me off their backs. Just an insight.
Lulu, I sometimes feel that way as well. Seems to me, people hate the truth.
i know i would stand by my child but i would not in no way cover up for a murder especcialy my g/child..i myself had a hard life and i know some of my actions are a result of the way i was treated but then there are lots of people who were treated like me and didnt do the same things i did..m had a family that was there for her and were willing to help her im sure c was very controling but its no excuse for murder, and ontop of that no remorse..i think if m had shown remorse from the beginning alot of people might feel diffrently and all c has done is blame e1 but her daughter..i suppose and hope we would never be in the position they are..also many men have killed thier children and thier parents are behind them just not like c..did that make sence??
PAW - we are on the same wavelength about the family dynamics and the way people are raised forming the premise for their actions, e.g. protecting one’s children, smoothing things over.
The question is: where do we morally draw the line in the sand? I would say when murder stares you in the face you have to face reality. After all, it is a felony in our country and is against the 10 commandments.
in thoes phone calls m was not concerned her child was missing altho she knew for 31+ days, m was soley concerned with talking with her b/f…and nothing and no one else matterd even caylee
I have a funny feeling the meter reader is a good guy and people around him were less than competent.
So much about this case speaks volumes about our society at large. It is a sociologist’s orgy.
Anna, that’s the part I truly don’t understand. How can a child grow up to be so, what’s the word I’m looking for? How can someone grow up to be like Casey? Where does that come from? Where do they learn that from? Is it something in the brain that just never connected from conception or what?
need to put a log in the fire haveing a piece of fresh homemade apple pie,
SEEE YAAAA
PAW - It is a personality people are born with, unfortunately. And it is rare. It is chilling because they are so good at deception, charm and cunning.
i pray m doesnt walk cuz of some stupid misteak someone made i think thats what bb is going for with all his motions..confusing the pros so they will make a misteak!
Anybody know if Lee is still employed? Does he still have a girlfriend?
XOXO 8:21 Agree, all this is making my head spin and there does seem to be enough forensics and circumstantial evidence (not reporting missing child for 31 days; conflicting stories of kidnapping; and lies, lies lies) to put M away.
PI’s poking around, psychic’s phone bill doesn’t mean squat to M is a killer. That can all be handled separately if it is obstruction. The bag does not appear to be moved - there was grass growing through …
No justification: The accused was not of minor age whenever she, by however means, disposed of the child. Story that sindee (as y’all call her) could NOT have forced her to keep the child. She could have placed her for adoption had she chosen, no matter how angry, sad, etc. her parents had been.
Yes, Lulu, murder is a felony, no matter how you bundle it. If sindee and/or anyone else are concealing facts, they are obstructing justice. A murderer is a murderer irregardless of the relationship, and this would again be “enabling” as is the reason for their lunatic daughter’s behavior.
Lulu, Is it something that can be “fixed” , treated if someone knew the signs to look for?
I don’t think anyone knows about Lee’s employment or g/f status.
Psychic’s credibility questioned? Is that an oxymoron? There is no way he was talking to a psychic because he first said he was talking to his ill daughter.
I think PI Casey needs to be put under oath and deposed.
Does anyone know how he came to be hired by the Ants? Did he just call up? Did they find him in the yellow pages? Because the level to which he is going to help them cover up suggests a relationship stronger than a recent job. Was he dating Psycho? Who is he? Where did he come from?
Is it me or does anyone else see way too many people helping the Ants with their bullshit stories? The psychic, the PI?
There are way too many coincidences here that are making me nutty:
1. Psycho says that she has a nanny named ZG for a good year an a half - but there is no nanny.
2. Psycho goes to the apartment complex and sees a name of ZFG on a card and uses it to further elaborate on her nanny lie.
3. The woods where the baby is found are surrounded by two properties owned by one family with the name Z and the other with the name G.
WTF is going on here? I don’t understand how these coincidences are possible.
Can someone explain this to me? I am going batty trying to make sense of this. Even if she used the woods as the fabricated nanny, how is it possible that she located a woman with the same name AFTER she had fabricated the nanny?
Oh, good morning ladies and gents. Sorry, should have said howdie:)
Effective treatment: A 2 x 4 across the behind!
Silly PI DC use to work for Baez first. That’s where he came from.
Flash said,
in January 15th, 2009 at 9:56 am
Effective treatment: A 2 x 4 across the behind!
Abuse is not the answer.
Let me ask this maybe through an example, that might illustrate my confusion better (example, not real below).
1. For over a year and a half I tell everyone I am leaving my dog Henry with a dog sitter named Lucy Ball. No one has ever met Lucy Ball. No one has ever talked to her. No one knows anything about her. And apparently no one cares either.
2. My dog suddenly disappears and I tell everybody that Lucy Ball has Henry and that I must find Ball and Henry.
3. I take the police to Lucy Ball’s last known residence, where it is proved that no Lucy Ball lives there. However, the police find a card with Lucy Ball’s name on it because she came to look at an apartment.
4. Turns out I have a friend who works at that apartment building and I was visiting and saw the name Lucy Ball on the card. But how did I just happen to find someone with that name after I had fabricated it for nearly a year and a half?
5. My dog Henry is found in the woods.
6. The woods are surrounded by two properties. One owned by the Ball family and the other has a Lucy owner. Okay, so that is Lucy Ball. But again, how did I happen to have just this name for a year and a half? And how is it possible that the card I saw at the apartment had the name Lucy Ball on it?
I am so confused… how is this possible? Anyone?
hello again I agree with you lulu … you always make sense sillybutt you are again soo right Flash ,,, always love to read what you post and others as well,
yes if we can see the signs ,, as parents we will need to get help for that son or daughter ,,,
sometimes they dont want help . they want to control, and they Know Mommy.dearest &dad will be there for me,
Silly, Lucy and Ball are well known first and last names in that area?
Cindy wouldn’t have had to accuse Casey of murder. But there were so many ways to confront clues:
such as wait a minute Casey, now you’re saying in your gut she’s okay, but the night we found you, you said, from here on out, her life is never going to be the same???
or:
the car smells like death, and you’re saying her life is never going to be the same, are you trying to tell me she is dead?
instead…
I never asked her.
George is PW’d plain and simple. In his first interviews with LE, and I am paraphrasing, he said “this is just between us, right” and he incriminated M with facts about smell in car and her not wanting him to see trunk. He also said she would push you right to the limit and then push some more.
He had some backpeddling to do, when that tape was released. He is not going to be able to backpeddle on the stand.
During the jailhouse phone conversations between M and her parents, I have watched G sit back a few feet from C while she is talking to M. He is in another world - probably singing to himself “Hi Ho the Dairy-O, the farmer in the dell….”
I’m not sure why Leevil is being granted all this immunity. We are all speculating, be LE must have something. Or did I miss it? Exactly what has come out about Leevil?
dog henry, lucy ball, Good one silly LOL
we hear what you’re saying yes it is confusing (vampire face, with satans pointed ears) planned this a LONG LONGGG time before this ever happened (disappearance) Murder ,, bless little Caylee
oh oh someone is going to ask me how do i know satan has pointed ears ?? hahahahahahahahaha
One thing I am not sure about is whether M ever told anyone Zenaida’s last name before all of this. Her friends I believe had heard of Zanny. Her mother certainly heard about Zanny during the month that M and Caylee were away from home. But had anyone including her family (who we can’t believe anyway) heard the full name (first and last or all three)???? BEFORE the 911 calls?
But now I know why CA put’s the abandoned house as the “nanny”. For 1 1/2 yrs She maybe put Caylee sedated in that abandoned house, She knew that 1 owner was named Zenaida and the house next to it was owned by a last name of Gonzales. She put the 2 names together as Zenaida Gonzales. Then when a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales went to look at the apartment, She found her perfect “nanny” name.
Casey knew whether or not that abandoned house frequented. If it wasn’t, then she used it to put Caylee there when she wanted to go party. Question is, did she use it when she had to “go to work” as well? Go to work = stuffing her mouth. Maybe in a closet or something that no one would find for, sedate her long enough for her to go get her before she wakes up. Possibly even used duct tape on her at that time as well,Bounded her.
Wholly poop you guys are rollin today….I am trying to read back and a few thoughts…
xoxoxo - sick yes, she killed caylee for 31 days of freedom! That’s all caylee was worth..as many days of freedom that she could get..
Sindee and grinch BOTH knew the day they brought the car home that “something died in that trunk”…especially when she went to tonys and found that caylee was nowhere to be found.
This is why they have NEVER put maggot on the spot…jumped up and down…or came right out and said…WHERE THE HELL IS CAYLEE…STOP STRINGING US ALL ALONG…DID YOU KILL YOUR DAUGHTER?
They both knew the answer and decided on July 15th that they would both cover to get their daughter back!
Regarding Caylee falling asleep at party as evidence of drugging:
there are exceptions…
I was camping last summer when a tornado hit and all campground campers moved into a shelter, 5 hrs of lightening thunder and half of the toddlers fell asleep on picnic table benches.
I think especially when kids have very physically active days, such as swimming, they are exhausted and can sleep anywhere.
paw~ i was also confused by the coincedental names of zenida+gonzales untill i found out they are really common names there just like jose would be in mexico or texas(i think texas)
Morning!!!
In the FBI interview, Cindy said she’d been to a morgue, and also had a patient die where the smell went thru vents into other patient rooms. She said she knew the smell of decompostion.
Paw, no I put the house as the nanny and CA thinks that the chlorie was related to this somehow. Me and CA, we are on a roll.
As to your question, Lucy and Ball are the owners of property on each side. Don’t know if they are well known. I know some of my neighbors near me, but I don’t know the neighbors way down the street. So they might not have known them because they were so far down and away from the Ants cave.
And she did at least tell Sin Nanny’s name.
Here is the kicker though… even if she planned this murder for over a year, what luck that she finds that name on a card in the apartment complex, eh? I think something was going on at that apartment complex and she knew it better than she admits to. Maybe people partied at one of the empty apartments? What are the odds that on the day you stop by to visit your friend, a card with the name of your fake babysitter appears?
WB CA, Hiya Pickles.
I don’t think that Roy Kronk should have to defend himself at all, but this case has become so convoluted with such a tangled web of lies and deceit that nobody can be trusted to be telling the truth.
Everybody wants a piece of the pie! What a pity that so many people are using this child’s misfortune for personal gain! It’s absolutely disgraceful that Casey and her deceitful family are gaining so much fame that high powered professionals are willing to prove that they are so good at what they do, that even a child killer can get off with their help! All of their work without compensation? I doubt it…they’re banking on her acquittal. If she’s acquitted, she’ll do a book, movie, etc. and they’ll all make their fortune, including the bankrupt, unemployed Casey and family! This will surely be an “american tragedy”.
C~A, you are right, parents have always known. All the interrogating, questions and heated arguments were probably made in the house when M was home, out on bond.
These jailhouse interviews are acts. They are putting on a play for us and LE. The truth came out in the house. Or did they just sit there and talk about the weather?
Gonzales is a very common name, that is true. But not that combination, Zenaida. Smith is a common name, but Alister Smith is not in the US.
I think she kept Caylee instead of giving her up because C was probably pretty adamant about it and said they’d help support her. M knowing herself and knew she was a piece of crap probably thought if I go against her then she’ll kick me out and I don’t have anything to fall back on. Probably looked at Caylee as a meal ticket with her parents until they got tired of the sponge.
hey everyone had to pop out to do baths gots to work and it is -25 here. I just made arrangements with my neighbor to take my girl so she dont even have to be taken out and about to daycare… for me i still have to be out in it
blah…
yah i think with all the evidence its a win for the pros.
i too feel both ways towards ants.. back and forth…
its a horrible situation M put everyone into…
i blame M for the actions of the parents i truly do… had this never happened would these people still act this way? we dont what kind of people they were before all this…
OMG i cannot believe i have to work in this crap today! alot of my job involves driving to and from clients houses., and boss called and naturally changed my schedule for today which means more being out in the cold
whereas before i had 2 houses and could have stayed stationary
but, no not now 
Oh so Baez brought in PI Casey? Well then someone should find out if Bozo happens to also have known the psychic… sounds to me like these are his actors on the stage covering stuff up.
Nightengale! That’s true about toddlers being able to sleep during anything! That’s the problem with this case and with our trying to figure everything out. If we (LE) could find out if Caylee slept thru ALL the parties or most of them then that might indicate drugs were used. We just don’t have enough information.
anna - M knew kids in grade school - at least one named Zenaida and several named Gonzales.
So those names go way back with her. Perhaps the coincidence of running into those names several times in her life plus the “zanny” nickname for xanax made her use the names.
H. Lee is well known for stealing and destroying evidence as well. So I have to wonder if DC is also known for that as well. Same with the Officer who has had a history of not doing his job, who is also now being investigated once again for the same reasons. Too many people on the defense dream team have some kind of record of not doing their job and destroying evidence.
I’ll see you all tonight, I read each and every post and love how informative you all are cause I miss alot during the day and evening
stay warm!
XO - you asked if this never happened would C & G still act this way?
They’ve BEEN acting “this way” for years. C denying M’s pregnancy (at 7 months) at her brother’s wedding for example. C protecting/defending M for stealing from herself and then from the grandparents. G ignoring the fact that M was stealing from Caylee’s little piggy bank. I’m sure it goes all the way back to school. You know the kind of parents whose kids get into some trouble and they blame the teacher or school. Like when C & G went to complain that M couldn’t graduate from HS because she was part of a credit short. It wasn’t M’s fault. It was the school’s fault for not letting them know sooner! I don’t think M has ever been held accountable for anything by her parents. Didn’t she admit that to Leevil the night of June 15? Maybe someone can help me remember just what she said about being stopped sooner (or whatever).
So my answer (IMO) is that yes, this is just an extension of what c and g have done ALL ALONG!
Have a good day XO.
Paw:
This whole thing is really messed up with regard to the defense side. I have never seen anything like it. They won’t provide answers to basic questions, like where does the sun rise and where does it set? Seriously, think about this, these are basic questions:
Who is the father of your child?
Who is the nanny and if there is no nanny, where did you leave your child?
How are you paying for your defense team?
These are basic questions and we can’t get answers to them for heaven’s sake.
silly - the combination could have come from the owners of the two houses and/or the real ZFG’s apartment application. I don’t see what’s so special or interesting about this name. She made the effing thing up! Doesn’t matter why. There is no effing nanny and never was!
G Morm C~A yes we are rolling in here , eh? should be it that casey is convicted and sentenced to life ,,,,( she( AIN”T ))gonna make it ” look at Jeffery Dalmer how he was hated & was murdered by fello inmates ,
look at that priest cant remember the name molested raped 60 children or more,,, he didn’t make it ,,how many others I’m surprise Susan Smith is still alive … another b***h should have gotten the D,P that one ,,They all should get the DP they dont deserve to breath the nice air or enjoy the sun even if they see it through an opening in a wall, lol
another one I remember that school teacher who got a 16 year old to murder her husband promised all this money
well Hopefully IF Casey is found Guilty of capital Murder Fry her ,,, hang her in the public square, what happened to the electric chair ? is it obsolete? AHWWWW tooo bad. as you see Death Penalty for Premeditated murderers , Damn!! we dont have it IN Canada its been abolished
oh, and silly. Back in the beginning there were 400 Zenaida Gonzales’s found in the Florida data base alone. So yes it is a common combination.
I was just wondering why and when she elaborated on it by adding the Fernandez.
That’s why ZFG’s visit to Sawgrass is interesting.
Its really sad how a spoiled brat can do such a horrible thing to thier child, and bring her WHOLE family down with her! Then again it is the Ants fault for falling in that pigs trap. M wasnt new to the ants, and they were and are aware of what crotch rot is capable of. I think that if the Psychic is tied somehow to Baez, then the defenses best bet is to come clean, however I think that LE has played the bull sh## game long enough with these clowns that they should just tell her to spill the beans and lock her up for good.
Has anyone ever noticed on NG, and how NG flashes the pics of Caylee? To me there are many that Caylee looks just like her grandmother. I wonder if C ever see’s that in the pics?
Casey is starting to put the weight on in prison. She is gonna turn out to look like Susan Smith in prison. Has anyone seen pics of her lately, no one would want her now, because she looks like a big fat pig, and Casey is on her way there too!!! Soon she will be asking for a larger prison jumpsuit!!!!!
Has anyone heard of a mother who killed her child being killed in jail? I have not. The most recent killers are still alive and kicking with one of them possibly winning a new trial. So I’m not depending on the other inmates to “take care of” M with any finality.
My2Cents… it is important precisely because she made it up.
Because for over a year and a half (again example) Lucy Ball is the name I give to my mom and others. Yes, it is made up - that we get. But what are the odds of walking into an apartment complex, seeing the name Lucy Ball on a card and claiming that is the Nanny?
What are the odds that the two properties around the woods are one owned by Lucy and the other by Ball?
This is important because if she kept the baby in that little house, then her nanny was the fictional person, but REAL location.
Here is what I am curious about and cannot find. Did she tell others about the apartments relating to her fictional nanny? I mean before she killed Caylee and before she visited her friend? Did she tell anyone that nanny lived at this apartment complex before?
M2Cents:
400 in a state the size of Florida is tiny. I would also bet most of them are in the SouthEast, not in Orlando.
CAPY - Remember the bond hearing…sindee and grinch on the stand…both were asked how much time each of them got to spend alone with casey before LE got there on jUly 15th?
That was the same day (JULY 15th) that when they got the car home and it smelled so bad…sindee said to grinch…WE LOST HER….then they found maggott..brought her home and all shit hit the fan….Maggot spilled the beans then I think….
I just don’t think they got around to where or past why….before the cops showed up…
cops are askin sindee and grinch prob. for the same reason….they think they all had enough time to find out the truth …and when she was on bond….there was always someone there from paddys camp…so prob. not much communicating going on!
silly - here is my theory on the connection with the houses (names of fams) and the real zanaida….
she formed the name from the houses ~ Zanaida Gonzales ~ threw in Fernandez ( similar to one of the first or middle names of one of the peeps in one of the houses on hopespring) just for good measure.
She then sought out and tracked down a real person with that name….who says she found the name on a card or sign in sheet at the apt? She didn’t…she found zanaida fernandez gonzales in the phone book…in other words…she made up a name and then attached it to a real person….how zanny ended up at sawgrass? I am not sure…but may have nothing to do how the two connections are linked in their origin…
the very first originating thought of the name has to be with the houses…i don’t see it being the other way around…where oh, there are houses on the street with same name….and maggot didn’t know that? NO…first the houses then she found a person with that name to build on her nanny name..
basically bringing the ficticious nanny to life
That means long before she killed the baby, she was creating a plot of kidnapping and she used the duct tape so it would look like kidnapping. Was she planning to kill the baby for nearly a year and a half?
Argh… back to the potty and bed, this bug is making me useless. Every time I try to do something, I am pulled back into potty and then bed. Blah, Argh, fladkfshdfskjhdf…. I want to keep discussing this, but have to go be sick.
CA, be back later, k? We should maybe exchange emails so we can throw our theories around
see you in a few all…
I somehow believe that Sin recreated Casey by using Caylee. I think that Sin knew that she enabled M all her life to the point that there was no turning back, that when caylee was born she started all over again and tried to make it right with Caylee, to feel better at herself for what she has done with M. I think that this is where the jelousy began with M and Sin, because sin was mpore a mom to caylee than M. I think too that this is the real sick reason that sin is standing by M, because she feels guilty and a part of what has happened to Caylee.
Is it also possible that M researched online a Zenaida Gonzales, got her address and stocked her to help her with her pre med murder. It is easy to find people on line, I do it all the time when I think I havent seen someone in a long time, anddepending on the sight, you can get address, phone#. M had plenty of time on her hands to follow someone around to build her story!!!
Kris, have you ever used http://www.veromi.com? I can find friends from long ago. I don’t sign up for all that investigating crap. Just fun to see where they are living.
I didn’t type in http:// before the website, it did it all by itself - ha.
That’s what my daughter said when she was about 3 yo. A lamp fell over and she said “it fell over all by itself”. I’ve used that excuse now all my life.
It would help if we knew when M started using the last name Gonzales and if anyone had ever heard her put Fernandez with it before June 15.
I would not put it past M to have thought of planning a fake kidnapping to get money out of her parents. And I would not put it past her to plan to kill them and get the house. But it didn’t happen. She blew it and killed the baby.
Didn’t have any plans for what to do then.
Her behavior afterwards is inexplicable. All I can think of is that she’d gotten away with everything so far in her life and she figured she’d lie her way out of this when the time came. But it didn’t work out that way.
I really do think that C made that last 911 call a few minutes too soon. I think if M had told her that she’d killed Caylee, or that somehow Caylee had died while in her care, that C would never have reported it. We’d never know about this at all. What do you all think?
fake kidnapping? Kinda like Fargo
I think she would have still called 911. Because for that 1 moment, Cindy was being real about it all. But that 1 moment didn’t last. All you need, is that 1 moment.
Capy - people were speculating that M might have been planning a “kidnapping” all along. The only percentage I see for M in that is if she managed to get money out of it for herself. That usually goes along with a kidnapping and would nicely “top off” also getting rid of the child. Just out of the atmosphere speculation. That’s all.
Has anyone figured out any possible story line that Bobo could spew that would make us say “Oh, OK, I get what happened now”? For the life of me I can’t, other than the fact there isn’t one…
Bmore, other than using Lee as the father and PPD and parents forcing her to keep Caylee, Which is all BS and still not an “oh ok, I understand now” excuse…. I have no idea…I think he should try for a plea deal.
I still keep going back to the pool at M’s house, the bathing suit, etc. the dogs hitting on the back yard. That clue really bgs me. Does anyone think that sometimes M and Cayleee left, and after c and g were gone, she came back to the house during the day? Then one day, decided to hold Caylee’s head under water?
Or duct taped her mouth so noone would hear her scream and threw her in the pool?
Paw, you wondered about causes…it is series of causes, initially some possible genetic predisposition, but combined with the quality of parenting will either make it or brake it. Although below describes diagnosing by early adult life, as a child therapist, intervention at that point is too late. Early indicators in early childhood would be lying and stealing, trouble with peers, and emotional disconnectedness and disorder best intervened and minimized if done early, prior to age 10.
Narcissistic personality disorder
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedi
A pervasive pattern of grandiosity (in fantasy or behavior), need for admiration, and lack of empathy, beginning by early adulthood and present in a variety of contexts, as indicated by five (or more) of the following:[1]
has a grandiose sense of self-importance
is preoccupied with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
believes that he or she is “special” and unique
requires excessive admiration
has a sense of entitlement
is interpersonally exploitative
lacks empathy
is often envious of others or believes others are envious of him or her
shows arrogant, haughty behaviors or attitudes
[[edit] Hypothetical causes
The etiology of this disorder is unknown according to Groopman and Cooper. However, they list the following factors identified by various researchers as possible factors.[3]
An oversensitive temperament at birth
Overindulgence and overvaluation by parents
Valued by parents as a means to regulate their own self-esteem
Excessive admiration that is never balanced with realistic feedback
Unpredictable or unreliable caregiving from parents
Severe emotional abuse in childhood
Being praised for perceived exceptional looks or talents by adults
“Excessive praise for good behaviors or excessive criticism for poor behaviors in childhood”
Some narcissistic traits are common and a normal developmental phase. When these traits are compounded by a failure of the interpersonal environment and continue into adulthood they may intensify to the point where NPD is diagnosed.
Tori!! How was that cup o coffee?
Pickles,

Nightingale,
very good. Can anyone tell us how she acted in high school?
Did you find the rabbit hole I left j00ooh on the other article?
I think Kristina Chester went to high school with her
c said she was a loner with not to many friends in high school..
No, where is it?
Tori - Yes. I’ve thought about those things. I think it’s possible that M came back to the house sometimes BUT I think G was unemployed a lot of that time. So he would have been home a lot or at least had an unpredictable schedule most days.
And I think your pool theory is also very possible. Like G left for his first day on the new job on June 15 and M stayed home and Caylee died in the pool thru neglect or intention. Then she left her in the back yard in various places and then at some point moved her to the car for 2.6 days before dumping her.
Geesh.
Sorry. Wrong about the date, Tori. G left for wherever he was going on June 16 and M stayed home.
G didn’t start a new job until July 15 I believe. Sorry about that.
I know I am stepping in abit late regarding sillybut question but the Anthony family lived for quite a while in the neighbourhood so I assume M must have known that those two houses had names of Zenaida and Gonzales since she played there all the time as a child. Perhaps they were mean to the kids and told them to get the heck off their properties. As far as the other Zenaida at sawgrass perhaps M saw this as a golden opportunity to connect the dump site with the name on the apartement seeker.
Oh its on the other article…cus we all moved….I didnt want to leave you behind..
It dont matter now..cus you are here!!!
I think all of it revolves around that name I think she came up with that name and stuck with it…that is her alibi and everything she has done revolves around the name Zanieda Gonzales…all of it…its the only thing she has stuck to ..its the only thing this whole mess has revolved around..is that name…
That name in her mind is the nanny thats who had Caylee all that time…thats her story and she’s sticking to it…
Great news on WFTV Tim Miller has hired Ant’s ex attorney Mark nejame to join forces against defense team. I LOVE IT****both Tim and Mark were treated shabbily by the Ants and Bobo is making all sorts of silly requests from Tim mregharding names of all searchers during the various times Tim was in Orlando.
I think she threw the Fernandez becuase of the lady thats suing her..she got that name off the Sawgrass list.
I think its good that Nejames is working on the good side now…along with Tim Miller…maybe Nejames is going to spill some beans? OOOHH that would be awesome
But who and how saw that list?????
She was a loner in high school? And within a few months suddenly became a party animal?
You have to wonder what M does all day with only an hour of free time… There are only so many Twinkies a person can eat! Curious of what she’s drawing in her sketch pad, wouldn’t be surprised to see that on ebay in the future under the Mom’s that Kill Memorabilia section… I wouldn’t be able to live in that house anymore if I were them, with all the pics it was a shrine to that baby…
Bmore,
who would even want to buy that house?
Sad thing is, that even after the trial, we may never know. Scott Peterson never said anything.
She had a friend who workd in the front office I thought
C said she was a loner in High School…
Tori I dont think we will EVER KNOW THE TRUTH…ever..scott peterson sat ther silent and took his punishment..and no one ever found out the truth…she will most likely do the same….sit there with a smug skank look on her face and take her just deserts.
PEEEPZ!!!
***throws a marble at Pickles***
Fish!! I was gonna tap on jo00ooh’s tank…
**Slap**
perhaps she was a loner because she lost friends. Ricardo said while dating, girlfriend/boyfriend she declined a date stating she had to work. When he later saw pictures from Fusion dated that same date, he confronted and her response? “I was working but my boss sent me to Fusion to spy on his daughter.” Okay, she lies at EVERY turn., she had to have been doing that for yrs. Loses friends right and left, except for a couple since childhood. Objectively only one really cared enough to say, Casey, you have a problem get help.
G’day!
I am probably risking some critisism here, but I am not convinced that the house with the gonzales’ and the house with the Zenaida are anything more than a strange coincidence.Bizarre-yes, but I think that in their search for Zanny, the Ants discovered that Gonzales name and that Zenaida name on some kind of database and then sent their PI in to videotape to make it look like something important in order to confuse potential jurors.
Timbit…I agree with you..I think it is irrelevant to the murder and that its just a coincidence..and if it is anything more its just in the name..
All of her friends that have known her since H.S. stated she’s a liar and a thief….
Thank You Night. I’m just trying to fathom all of this. So I have tried to go straight to the source/where it all began, to try and at least understand something.
Pickles,
You are right. After they found out, m just moved on to another innocent victim
Afternoon everyone…..busy at work (LOL) but trying to catch up with my fellow bloggers here…
Pickles said,in January 15th, 2009 at 1:00 pm ..scott peterson sat ther silent and took his punishment..and no one ever found out the truth…
I AGREE 100%. she has nothing to gain by telling the truth. Even he’s on Death Row and still sits silent. sick.
And Orlando was the perfect place. Wouldn’t have happened in a small town
PAW69 one of my son’s spelling words this week is PAW!!
Sillybutt
You said you are still wondering who is footing the bill for the defense- I have been thinking long and hard about this, and since nobody relevant (lawyers) can directly profit from a loss, it’s unlikely they are doing it for free.
it is occurring to me that possibly Geraldo is footing the bill on this one. he seems to be pro defense, and he would have something to gain with this, because it might give him some
ratings, especially if he is given privileged info from defense to have a “different ” version of events than other media. I haven’t actually watched him though, so I don’t know if he has any “breakthroughs” that others don’t have. His company could probably afford it though, and he would gain more benefit than almost anyone else I can think of.Hve C and G ever appeared on his show?
Awwwwwwww Pickles. Right on
According to her dad (and judging by her grades) my crack addict ex fiance (who acts very much like skanky baby killr…just would never harm her child) she was very well behaved until she got out of high school. Wasn’t til after that that the mania and depression started to rear it’s ugly head. There were warning singns but nothing. Then the wildness and the drugs….it all went down hill from there.
Our body chemistry changes every 7-10 years. We can develop new allergies, skin and hair changes, and even changes in the chemical make up of the brain. Probably what happened to my ex.
This psycho baby killr…no way that is her case. The manipulative behavior and pathological lies are something she has been doing for years. Her change was chemical…she has always been a psychopath.
Oh and the papers for the foster family are final. Cracky Mc Crackhead actually signed them rather than having it go to court. She wants the best for her child. I’ve always said that this bitch baby killer has less morals and decency than an addict in the street. Case in point…
I heard they came out with a new Clue game. Maybe we could too. In the pool with the shovel,in an abandoned house with duct tape, in the trunk with the chlorform, Ms M, the nanny, the meter reader, etc.
Scott Peter-face still maintains that he is innocent…
Hilarious Tori
There are so many possibilities!
Goldie, that makes it sound like a perfect defense stradegy….ughhhhhhhhhhh……
What was the game show of the 70’s where the panel all lies and the contestant has to guess which one is telling the truth?
Then the announcer says “will the real ___ please stand up”. When I think of all these characters, I think of that game show.
To Tell the Truth? was it, or Truth or Consequences?
to tell the truth
Yup, she would make a great contestant
I see that I put a ‘can’ in there where I meant ‘cant’.
I meant that her changes are not chemistry (unless you count cocaine)…took this evil teeewwaaatt years to get to the level of deception she has. She is a psycho pure and simple PAW.
Yes Goldie, which gives the defense perfect stradegy.
If she is put into the general prison pop, I couldn’t sleep a wink as her roomie.
Yeah, those two houses where M left Caylee practically in their back yards.
Some other site poster pointed out the house numbers of those houses: 4709 and 4701. M said she left Caylee between 9 and 1 with Zenaida. While G said she left at 12.50 pm with Caylee.
And M telling Detective during interview that not everything she told him was a lie.
Gosh, reminds of doing a Sudoku puzzle.
So many clues or coincidences.
snookers,
wow that’s bizarre.
She wont make it in general population in the pen..they are going to make mince meat out of her….alls them woman do is watch television..they all know Caylee and her devil mom…thay are going to mess her up…whip the shi~ out of her
Hormone change, having a baby=more hormone changes,even possible PPD,drugs,alcohol,chemical imbalance,pathological liar,Oh and don’t forget Sociopath as well. All between the age of 17-22.
That spells the perfect defense stradegy.
I think its all in the name …she has clung to that name like there is no tomorrow and she has never backed off…..The only difference is the Fernandez
And if Baez wanted to go any further, he could go with the “so-called” sexual abuse from daddy and brother as well. Controlling mother.
Dominic Casey was on the phone with psychic Ginette Matacia Lucas , states away in Virginia leading him to the place she saw Caylee in a dream.
Matacia-Lucas tells FOX 35 what she was telling Casey to look for. “You’re looking for what may look like trash. It’s not going to be a body you’re looking for. You’re looking for what looks like trash…you’re not looking for a little girl sitting on the curb.”
As Casey rummaged through the woods he stopped to take still pictures to document his search. He saw trash all over, an empty oil quart, a toilet. “He said he didn’t see it and I said keep looking in the woods,” said Lucas.
But the trash like debris Matacia-Lucas wanted Dominic Casey looking for would be next to something specific. “I said try to look for a rock or a paver or something,” said Lucas.
Eventually the psychic tells Dominic Casey to look for three pavers in a row.
The pictures show Dominic Casey finding one paver and then another one and finally after several minutes of feverishly searching he finds three pavers in a row next to an old tire.
Dominic Casey searched the area November 15, went back Sunday the 16th and then again on Tuesday the 18th. He tells fox 35 he was probably within 150 to 200 feet from where little caylee was found.
Dominic Casey says the more he found of what the psychic was describing on the phone, the more freaked out he got. He says this was a very emotional time for him.
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All of this ‘news’ from dummy-dick and his psy-kick and no one THOUGHT to tip LE about the matter???
OBSTRUCTION OF JUSTICE
What is between those 2 houses?
The only reason she said the last time she saw Caylee between 9a-1p was cus that was Tony l.’ class schedule
Tori,
M likes numbers like that 31 days missing. Just as bizarre.
Counting back 31 from July 15,would take you back to June 15. Not June 9 as M originally reported as Caylee missing.
PAW69 said,
in January 15th, 2009 at 1:34 pm
And if Baez wanted to go any further, he could go with the “so-called” sexual abuse from daddy and brother as well. Controlling mother.
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I was violently abused by my father PAW and had a cousin who just didn’t realize that I wasn’t raised in alababmy like her and kissing-cousins didn’t fly (she still tries vamping me if she can get me alone…tramp).
That’s a lot on my mind too PAW??? Do I get to kill someone now? I certainly wouldn’t start with innocent children.
Abuse is no excuse for this…the jury is gonna be disgusted by this evil monster. Abuse is not going to fly in this one.
Tori,
No understanding question. Those are the house numbers of the last two houses on hope spring drive. No house in between 4701 and 4709.
snookers,
OK just wondered where the path was that led into the woods.
That is because the lots are over sized snookers.
Goldie!!! Calm Down. Geez. I’m saying that it’s perfect Stradegy for the DEFENSE.
I have always said , NO EXCUSES!!!
What day was Gayle St. John there and the dogs hit on the area. Then they walked down a path and they didn’t want to lose the dogs, so they left? Do you think Pi was following them. Gayle said, “We have Ohio plates, so we have to be careful”
Gale St.Fruad see’s dead ppl…
Abuse? I don’t see how, in this complicated case, they could even bring up “abuse” by the parents, sib, whatever. That would be detrimental to the defense and I do not believe they’d want this kind of twisted junk brought into the court room even if it happens to be true.
And, again, if monsteriffic had any actual psychiatric illness (previous acting out) for them NOT to be able to produce documentation of treatment would further show that they ALL were guilty of child abuse (neglect) of Caylee.
I do not believe baez would care to reveal any more of this family’s psychotic history than has already been exposed.
I’m okay PAW…just saying I don’t think a jury would buy it. If the procecution had doubts about it being an accidental death then it might swing. No this one, not murder one of a sweet innocent baby.
Pickles,
did you see the tape?
I find this kinda interesting. Especially that part that LANCE says. This is from http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0901/14/ng.01.html as well. Is he in not so many words admitting that Casey told him the truth??? I hope we find out more about this.
GRACE: Listen, under our criminal justice system, you do not — as much as I may not like it — you do not have a duty to be a good Samaritan. If you know where a body is, you don`t are to call police. You can just keep on going by. So the fact that Lee Anthony may have known — they`re not even saying he did, but if he may have known where the body was, that does not equal criminal charges. You`ve got to — a criminal charge, you`ve got to do more than know something, Leonard.
PADILLA: It does if you have the intention to foil the prosecution`s case by following that up with the “Zenaida did it, the other Zenaida did it,” and your discovering the body…
GRACE: Ah. If you mislead police, knowing better. I understand now, an obstruction charge.
I want to go back out to Natisha Lance. Natisha, you stated that the attorney is seeking immunity for tot mom brother Lee Anthony. Is there any indication what he believes Anthony — Lee Anthony`s involvement is?
LANCE: Well, he said that he may have information that police may misconstrue as him obstructing justice or aiding and abetting in this crime that Casey carried out. But did not get into specifics.
in aug , Cain was dispatched to suburban & hope spring when meter reader Roy Kronk reported a suspicious bag,
remains were found later in that area .
Kronk said the Deputy who responded to the call poked around the water with a metal stick,& swept his head bk & forth & said “i dont see any thing”
whats wrong with this picture? where was the BAG? thats what he went to investigate fishy here
No I dont believe in psycics..dont watch that stuff….
Cain is back to work re-assigned
Goldie, I’m looking at it as Baez’s Ah Ha, ” we will all understand” BS he was throwing around. Basically stating that all of this combined is the reason why Casey “accidentally” killed Caylee ,,,, As he claims.
Nana….the cop didnt want to get his gloves or feet dirty
What Baez fails to realize. We’re not stupid. Everyone in that courtroom will see right through the dream team, and they will look like fools.
Baez has only lost 2 cases in his career. Sinking feeling here.
And we have Henry who got Oj off and now someone from Canada.
I donot want to pick on Kronk but if he took pick of rattler why did not he take a picture of the suspicious things he saw on August 11,12 and 13. Makes you also wonder why LE does not take pics when they are investigating a tip from a citizen and file with their report. So easy to take pics nowadays.
Cop sounds like he was just bored with his job…also I recall at first finding Kronk very creepy looking and hard to watch. Cop might have thought that Kronk wasn’t all there if you know what I mean.
Not an excuse, lots of cops dissatisfied with the careers they have chosen and they get complacent.
Bad luck in this caes, but at least she was eventually found by someone who did the RIGHT thing.
(unlike dummy-dick who needs his effin ass arrested)
Tori, if I remember correctly, Baez has only had 3 cases. And those he lost. All other cases he was a sit in. Which doesn’t count for him.
Tori, The only reason OJ got off is because H.Lee stole and destroy evidence from what I understand.
Excuse me, not the OJ case, But this one….
On May 23, 2007, Los Angeles County Superior Court Judge Larry Fidler, the judge in the Phil Spector murder trial, said that he had concluded Dr. Henry Lee hid or accidentally destroyed a piece of evidence from the scene of actress Lana Clarkson’s shooting.
PAW H Wee Wee dis not steal or tamper with evidence, he just did what bobo is hoping he will do here, he put his own brand of ‘what if’ and ‘alternate’ explaination of the findings spin on it.
The man is a disgrace to science, but I think he may work against the defense in this case. People are gonna remember OJ when he is on the stand and not going to relate to wee wee to kindly IMO.
1 of his past cases got life in prison no parole the other one got consecutive life’s in prison no parole and the last one got death row and one was a mistrial
4 totall
Dr.Lee is only hired to lose evidence and they all know it..its common knowledge here on the West Coast the man is a joke
Way to throw the punches bobo!!! What a loser…
What a coincidence. Linda Baden, Michael Baden and H.Lee all involved in the Phil Spector case and now this case.
No wonder it’s in such a mess.
I think from day 1, Bozo engineered to make this case a high profile so he could have a big payoff in the end. Some of the “news” being released now, is ridiculous IMO. Who cares about C ’s emails to Lois Peters. Total irrelevant. Ditto with invitations to funeral. What is next How many times a day C goes potty?
pickles he called ,,, a suspicious bag the Cop goes there , what! no bag .wheres the bag ,? poked around in water ,with a stick Kronk didn’t point to A bag the reason he had called cops CUZ he he had seen a Bag for chits sakes .. weird ….
PAW69,
Another Dr. Spitz(currently on scream team) was part of that same Spector clique too.
Somehow Kobi does not fit in with that group IMO..
LOL snookers…
…then is it number one or number two???
I personally like watching the circus IMO it makse sure it stays fresh in the publics mind and your likely to have a far more aggressive jury then.
Paw69.
Lee did do something hokie on the OJ trial . Claimed there was second footprint from another person at the crime scene. Disproven after the trial but too late for the jury.
BBIAB. Gonna go shopping and pay bills. Be good.
Forgot about that snookers…. Okay BBL.
Goldie,
I do worry about the scream team though at the trial. All those Ph.D’s cover for each other and make impressive forensic mumbo jumbo to a non scientific trained jury.
Then that clique moves on to the next high profile case in order to get another notch/victory on their belts.
As far as the cop not seeing the bag…I think Kronk didn’t see a bag there either that day, just going on his initial hunch. He just kept following that hunch when he had the chance. Good on him…at least he tried to call LE with his hunch and not a tele-pathetic buddy like dummy-dick did.
Snookers
I agree but that is also why I like the fact they keep the merry go round media running at the mouth. You will have a more aggressive and attentive jury IMO
Have to do some work.
BBL
lol Goldie-guess i’m to old to figure out this stuff. its very confusing to me
Spacely…what happed to Bobo’s to-do lists???
Goldie-Fishy
I was violently abused by my father PAW and had a cousin who just didn’t realize that I wasn’t raised in alababmy like her and kissing-cousins didn’t fly (she still tries vamping me if she can get me alone…tramp).
This is the 2nd time I have seen you write something derogotory about Alabama. I’m just wondering what your issue is with people from there. I live and work in the Birmingham area and no I do not kiss cousins nor any other male relitives. Can we just keep this about Caylee.
devans…peace it’s a poke at my backwoods nasty cousin, not all of alabama.
k peace I even have all my teeth lol
Hi,
Capy thanks so much for that link for finding people. I can use it too.
(Sorry I keep forgetting to sign in and sign off. I hang around in a room where the computer is, kitchen, eating area, and den. I’m here, but not right here, so I forget to sign out.That’s why I seem to take a long time in answering posts … sorry. Not used to this LIVE talking.)
PAW - There are voice stress tests too for truth telling. You talked about wiring Lee, etc. up on the “stand”. Sociopaths tho, I believe can FOOL lie detector tests. Maybe now they might have more than those 2 tests. Measure the brain waves too?? SHOULD use ALL on the mental patient, M.
C probably was as nice/good as she “knew how” to little Caylee. Caylee did look happy and loved, and I am sure that didn’t come from M. It obviously wasn’t enough, but maybe was her best. After the body was found … *will the real sindee please stand up?* I think tremendous stress brings out what a person *really* is. Do you think?
Betty…is all good…So whats Eugene like right now?
By the way LOCK YOUR CARS AND LEAVE NOTHING OF VALUE IN YOUR VEHICLES!!! A NICKELS WORTH OF FREE ADVICE..Tweakers suck!!!
So Betty whats the weathr like over yonder?
Hey I have cousins in Alabama…and I have hugged and kissed them…does that mean I am tainted?……. j/k
I do..in Tuscaloosa…..3 girl cousins..yappers and an Aunt….
Pickles
Ummm if all she ever did was hug then I wouldn’t think anything of it. What is more her teenage daughter is worse than her about it but I think she is just trying to get negative attention from her mom.
Anyhoo…it’s making me nervous just thinking about it so let’s just quit.
I think this defense team is based on who you know and who you blow to get this many high rollers for a nobody. If by a snowballs chance in Hell she does get off I’m sure some desperate person out there with nothing to lose will put her out of our misery… There are alot of sickos out there and she is one of them.
Bmore
Well if it is based on who you blow in this case I think they have the perfect client. Wunder-snatch has probably been down yonder more times than any porn star on record LOL
You know you don’t get a round mouth from eating square meals…. lol
Time to go, nice talking with you guys again… Everyone take care!
I was just joking…lightng the whole Alabama rifft
Pickles you are so onery! Love it LOL
L8drs Bmore
Hi Pickles, I guess we are lucky. Only one car, and a garage for 2, so pretty SAFE, I guess. Still put the alarm on it, even IN the garage.
Had to get a GPS, missing my internal one. Can’t find ANYTHING!!! Now, moved across country? I do take that with me, anytime I leave my car tho. Garmin’s are really good. They started with planes they told me, now do car one’s too. Amazing unit!
Weather isn’t sunny, but maybe in the upper 50’s? Not sure. Not really a nice day, but usually never any extremes. (Fingers crossed…)
Tom had some very good CNA’s when he was at the Re Hab for 2 months. Fell WHILE IN the hospital, and broke his hip! Got to know them - many going to be RNs. Good experience I am sure. If you can do that, get in a good one - better training!
Oops plane is down in the Hudson River. US Airways Jet. SO COLD … God.
Have to leave now … back later.
Capy…I cant help it…
Bmore … ha ha ha. That is how a singer is supposed to form their mouths, ROUNDED - to make “rounded tones” not wide - ugly ones. LOL
Such funny stuff from y’all.
Husband said he thinks the temp here in Eugene OR was supposed to be in the upper 40’s today.
Those POOR people on that plane. Going to N.C. White caps.. frigid water. Boeing 737 I think they said. Between New Jersey and NY. 151 were on the plane. We should pray for them …
See, still in this room … run over here when I can. Leaving shortly. Bye for now my buds…
From http://www.cnn.com
NEW YORK (CNN) — Emergency officials are responding to a downed plane in the Hudson River in New York City, according to the city fire and police departments.
The plane entered the water after a failed takeoff, the FAA says.
The plane entered the water after a failed takeoff, the FAA says.
The FAA confirmed US Airways Flight 1549, an Airbus A320 headed from New York’s LaGuardia Airport to Charlotte, North Carolina, was down in the river following a failed takeoff.
The U.S. Coast Guard said units were also responding, and a ferry on site was dropping life jackets into the water.
The plane approached the water at a gradual angle and made a big splash, according to a witness watching from an office building.
“It wasn’t going particularly fast. It was a slow contact with the water that it made,” the witness, Ben VonKlemperer, told CNN.
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Just letting everyone know. Prayers go out to them and their families.
just back for a few min. Channel 6 orlando…new video released of M, c and g in the jail. not out yet.
FERN—–AND—–EZ
Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales
Hi all… Sorry about the other night when I got slaphappy! (Hiding my face in shame here
I’m in the middle of reading your posts from yesterday and today and I needed to stop and make a couple comments:
Sheller, regarding your January 14th, 7:36 pm post. Great post! I too believe that M did not have Caylee with her most of the time and when she did she would sneak back home after C&G left for work and lounged around. Plus M told everyone she could work from home on her laptop and pretended to do that most of the time. So, until I hear something coming from LE or a reliable source I want to believe that Caylee was not drugged prior to being killed by her own mother. It’s bad enough thinking of how she must have suffered in the last hours of her life.
TimBit, regarding your January 15th, 1:06 pm post. No criticism on the contrary my compliments to a well written and thought out comment! I too believe that the Gonzales/Zenaida home is simply a smoke screen put up by the defense. (I had read somewhere that all three of the names Zenaida, Hernandez and Gonzales are pretty common names in the Florida area. (Used separately not used together)
These are a couple of my beliefs right now but
I am ALWAYS open to changing my mind if reliable evidence points me in another direction.
OOPS…make that Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales
Karma, dude. Can’t run from karma. Trust that everyone involved will have a healthy helping of karma.
May God have mercy on their souls…
One house-Zenida
one house-Gonzales
Caylee was found at the bottom of a “V” from the 2 houses.
Fern — was also at the bottom of the “V”
and it was
ez??????????
???
Maybe that’s where she got the “Fernandez”
Okie doke
Hey Therapist…did you do something wrong? I refuse to believe it.
Fernandez, in my eyes that’s stretching it to fit what you think people want to hear.
Plus how Caylee’s remains could be found at the bottom of the V if the bag was only 20 feet from the road is puzzling? I’m not buying it!
Yah we may be a bit on a tangent most of the sometimes..but I agree with Therapist..
I think killr knew that little dugout was there and put Caylee there…in that little dugout gully hole thing where she was found.
Did she or didnt she get Zanieda’s name off the list at Sawgrass..cus she even described the same exact car Zanieda drives when she told the cops.
Pickles… that’s why YOU are the sweetheart of the blog!
You hear no evil, see no evil, speak no evil! … okay, most of the time anyway!
hi cyber fam
Hey C~A…
SO did she get Zanieda’s name off the list at Sawgrass…cus she described Zanieda’s car to the police
I am not innocent Therapist..but I refuse to beleive you did any wrong
Pickles she may have gotten the name Zenaida Gonzales from the Sawgrass list but not the Fernandez as it wasn’t on the list. Zenaida filled it out as C.Zenaida Gonzales
Then is it a coincidence she described a Ford Focus to LE like what Zanieda drives?
It’s difficult to pinpoint how M got Zenaida’s full name but let’s try to think it through logically.
If what Dak is saying is true and Zenaida filled the card out as “C. Zenaida Gonzales” then I think we can almost rule out that M got her name off the card in the office.
I would like to know how Zenaida’s name appears on her license. Someone said anyone can run a license plate for $19.00 and find the owner’s information. But, M would have had to use a computer because she’s couldn’t be bothered to mail it in when she was too lazy to carry Caylee’s body any more than 20 feet into the woods off the road.
M could have asked one of her cop friends to run the plate but LE would have been able to track which cop ran it. LE keeps detailed records of all that stuff.
Any other ideas?
I think it may a coincidence about the car or maybe she did run a check on the liscence.
I wish we knew Zanieda’s full name
Okay I’m caught up on what I missed last night installing Windows 7….
Why do people keep ranting about the house? The means to what end search the abandoned house? LE alredy thought they had a strong enough case EVEN WITHOUT a body. Once Caylee was found they upped the allegation and charges.
I just don’t get what you think is going to be proven in that house. Even if they could prove wunder-snatch or Caylee had ever been in there it would prove nothing at all about the murder. All the defense would have to say is their client used to go there to blow off a little steam when she was mad at the ant’s.
Be back in a bit
Another thing too not that it is important or anything but I know Zenaidas lawyers and few others siad that Casey gave the name of Zenaidas kids which she didn’t atleast in her written statement and her interview?interrogation with LE
I think the house rant is someone trying to get us all to look stupid on a ridiculous topic
I wish we did too Pickles.
WHo knows with this case anymore…All’s I know is that whole family needs to be tried and sentenced accordingly for the crimes they have all committed
and lee getting criminal immunity…they must really want his testimony against his sister.
NOOOO PICKLES!!!!
***yanks Pickles by the hair and drags her back in***
We know that the state holds evidence back from the public for the trial. So maybe that’s the REAL reason why that cop got fired. Maybe he did run that plate for her.
Someone said that M was parked at the Sawgrass apt. one day… did she see Zenaida get out of her car?
I think that’s all been thrown out there before…
Okay I know someone is going to slap me for this but here goes. Since some people seem to think Caylee is the offspring of Casey and Lee and since everyone hates the ants, then wouldn’t be almost disrespecting Caylee’s memory but associating her as a result of incest, just my thought and opinion.
Naww i’ll be back I promise
Ouch!!!
I do by my searching through myspace and all that the guy who owns the tatoo shop Casey went too does have a connection with Zenaida.
Although my hunch is that both Casey and Zenaida went to the same tatto shop for their tatoos.
Tats??? Blood sister connection??? LOL
Maybe they both had ‘Mi Vida Loca’ tattooed on themselves cuz all this speculation is some loca crapola
Sorry I butted in here.
Que?
Now thats funny Goldie
Dak is right. Fernandez was not on the saw grass registration card. M never mentioned Zenaida’s names of kids on the stuff that was released to public by LE.
. I do remember in an earlier interview with Zenaida, that LE called her and mentioned the names of two of her kids that she listed on the Sawgrass application. Freaked her out.
M never mentioned Zenaida’s kids , actually said that Zenaida had no kids. Only her phantom sister Samantha had kids.
M got Fernandez name somewhere else. Not a lucky guess though.
Que como?
This is off MomLogic so you have to take it with a grain of salt as to it’s credibility:
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In other Casey Anthony news, Roy Kronk is very appreciative to Mark NeJame, the Anthonys’ former lawyer, for his generous gift of $5,000. Apparently, Mr. NeJame received $5,000 for his earlier involvement in the case and has decided that since Roy did find Caylee, the money should appropriately go to him.
Snookers I think when LE looked into Zenaida they got that info from Sawgrass before talking to her and they are the ones who mentioned her kids names.
Goldie I think it is credible we know Nejame has talked about giving him the $5000 so maybe he finally did.
Pickles,
On the civil suit document, prepared by her attorney Morgan. She is depicted as Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez( including the hyphen) in the plaintiff section.
OMG I can’t keep up …
PICKLES - I think she looked “a” Zanaida Fernandez Gonzales” in the phone book and she stalked her….saw her car then….
C~A Naw, I don’t buy that. Goldie, channel 6 reports that Kronk did get the $5,000. But I agree Mom Logic can go %$#&.
Gotta go fix dinner see ya later.
The next time you run into any idiot even suggesting that this psycho baby killin teewwhat might be innocent show them this picture police found on her computer:
http://www.geocities.com/goldfishzero99/totmom.jpg
fergot I had the sick piece of chit. Interesting sketch if it weren’t for the effed up circumstances
Tori - what’ your theory on how the “house names” and the real zanny are connected?
Someone ought to tape it outside her cell window so she has to stare at it…
Before I found this blog, I went in Mom Logic. I felt like I was in the torture chamber from hell. Very cliquie
Goldie - I am pretty sure that Nejame is a man of his word and has a credible reputation to uphold! He wouldn’t offer if he wasn’t serious! He did walk away from the ants…
C~A, Not sure. I didn’t hear about that till yesterday, but it is a possibility. Don”t know.
Just saw part of the new jail tape. Can’t wait till it released to the public in full
CYA LATERZ PEEPS!
***leaves a pile of pebbles in the middle of the room for someone to kick at Pickles when she comes back***
Tori - I think the origin of the names was of the peeps on her street…then she brought her fake nanny to life by lookin a person up with the same name in the phone book…how it ties in with sawgrass may be a coincidence….or not…I don’t know how that fits in….but she certainly didn’t make the name up first and then realize that the woods where baby was found just happens to have the same names as the “nanny”….
Thanks Tori, ain’t seen dat…guess I gotta wait for NG
Gotta go. The pilot is going to speak. Hasta La Vista
wesh.com reported that Nejame gave Kronk $5k reward. Other interesting news in report too.
The meter reader who discovered Caylee Anthony’s remains on Dec. 11 was given a $5,000 reward on Thursday.
Roy Kronk received the money from Mark NeJame, George and Cindy Anthony’s former attorney.
After his own investigation, NeJame said he deduced that Kronk was not involved in any type of conspiracy or foul play, so he decided to give him the money he earned while working for the Anthonys.
Kronk’s attorney, David Evans, released this statement: “Roy Kronk is very appreciative to Mark NeJame for his generous gift of $5,000. Apparently, Mr. NeJame received $5,000 for his earlier involvement in the case and has decided that since Roy did find Caylee, the money should appropriately go to him. Roy is very thankful that Mark NeJame has recognized his singular efforts in finding Caylee and hopes that this sends a message to others that kindness does exist for people who do the right thing in life.”
Also on Thursday, a deputy who may have missed a chance to find Caylee Anthony’s remains was reassigned.
Deputy Richard Cain was reassigned to the agency’s material control and supply section. He also was forced to surrender his badge, gun and other equipment — and not to engage in law enforcement action on or off duty.
On Aug. 13, Kronk said Cain was rude and didn’t take his tip seriously about a suspicious bag near the Anthony home. His report stated the bag was “trash only.”
Four months later, Kronk returned to the area and found Caylee’s remains.
Meanwhile, WESH 2 News has confirmed that Anthony’s lawyer, Jose Baez, will likely file for a change of venue in the coming days.
HI all. Only have a minute but will return later.
I’ve read in several places that actually, Zenaida SIGNED her full name, Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez on the visitor’s card. I’ve been trying to confirm or find a copy of the card; so far, no luck. But I’m working on it. This one simple thing could explain a lot!
ALSO, I’ve read numerous times that M DID verbally tell LE that Zenaida had 2 kids. Yes, her written statement says no kids, but I’ve read that in another LE interview, she changed her story and said 2 kids. Again, I’ve been trying to verify this.
I wanted to get this out there because a lot of assumptions have been made about the connection. Understandable, since it’s such a strange situation.
Above all, I don’t believe there is any way that M just happened to choose the name of a person who just happened to visit the same apts where she said she left Caylee with this same person. That is just impossible (imo).
And to add to it (as pickles keeps pointing out), I also do not believe it possible that m just happened to choose someone who also just happens to drive a silver car that looks like a Ford Focus. Again, impossible (imo).
Net result for me is that BECAUSE these are impossible coincidences, I will continue to believe that m somehow did get the name from Zenaida’s visit to the apts. IT’s ok with me that we just don’t understand yet because we don’t have all the facts!
(though we certainly have hints, such as that m knew someone who worked in the apt office, who maybe took a photo of z’s driver’s license)
In other words, waiting for the ultimate “truth” is more important than assuming that m did not get her name from the apts (when all logic points to the idea that she did).
Until then, I will try my best to understand the connection (by researching, thinking through it, hearing others’ ideas).
Just sharing what I’ve heard and my thoughts on this most confusing aspect of the nightmare! bbl!
Hidy Therapini!!! I’m still laughing at your song from the other night (though for some reason, it sang in my head to the tune of “Red River Valley” — must add to ‘to-do’ list to reaquaint myself with those westerns!!!)
(Goldie - imo, you are insane for installing Windows 7. I can’t stand 7 and find Vista to be a nightmare! though mainly because my students cannot open my Word 7 docs if they have previous versions, so I have to save every single handout twice!!! I’ll be curious to see what you think of it).
mediawatcher - I’m gonna guess that you teach either Sociology or you’re in the Education Department… maybe even Psych … seems you must be in Human Sciences but not lit or history (based on your first day personality exam).
ok. gtg. See yall in a bit!
Above all, I don’t believe there is any way that M just happened to choose the name of a person who just happened to visit the same apts where she said she left Caylee with this same person. That is just impossible (imo).
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Therapist - M didn’t IMO just happen to find a person with that name she took the names of the peeps whos houses backed onto the woods she dropped baby off in ….your basically saying that you believe that the names of the peeps in the houses, ..if she got her name off the apt. visitor list..end result, was in fact a coincidence….
that IMO would be the biggest impossiblility of all..
CIT,
The Zenaida’s SawGrass is in the very first document dump,
IMO m HAD to have made up the name from names she sponged off the neighborhood …the same woods baby found in… and sought someone out with the same name…she made up the Fernandez surname …
C-A — that’s my quote, not therapist’s, so I’ll reply.
It would appear that one or the other is most likely a coincidence (but the real truth is that neither may be a coincidence–maybe after she found Z’s name she then thought about that field, knowing the names connected to the homes). But if it’s one or the other, it seems to me that the house-connection is more of a possible coincidence than the apartment-connection is. Of course, this is just a matter of opinion at this point.
My opinion is based on idea that the houses have the connection of one, individual name that is very common in the area. But the apartment connection includes 3 names, used together, in a certain order, of a person who indeed visited the same apartments near the same time period. Plus, the car connection.
It’s just that if you look at the variables, there are more variables involved with the apt-connection than the house. More variables makes it more unlikely to be a coincidence.
But as I stated, neither may end up being coincidental (though we may never know!). I can certainly see m smirking when she left Caylee at the woods, thinking to herself how clever she is bc she knows the names connected to those homes!!!
before I read…i apologize….to both of you
Thanks, snookers. I’ll look there. I’m v curious to find her handwritten signature.
Also, if m had a friend who worked at the apts, maybe Z told this person the 3 names ZFG. Could be just a verbal exchange, with no written proof.
C-A - I hope I explained that ok. I’m trying to say that if one compares the two scenerios, one seems more likely to be a coincidence than the other (if we had to choose). But that’s just my take on it and I am certainly not presenting my opinion as truth. Just an idea for now, until we know more.
concerned - but there was no REAL connection to any zanny at the apts…so how can that be less of a coincidence then the names of the peeps on her own street…where she left the baby…
what was the date zanny visited apts…do we know?
C-A - Who on earth are you apologizing to? I’ve seen you do nothing wrong! We’re all just offering opinions. (unless I missed something really bad that you did earlier that I didn’t read….nah, not likely, not our sweet Canadian C-A!!!)
cit - you bet! We are just weighing possibilities…a and b and c and d…and so on…unfortunatly almost every question at least 3-4 different possibilities…it is mind bending at the very least…
and I SUCK at trying to say what i mean…
I re-read and I’m like…line for line..uhmm…does that come across right…prob. not. 
Yes, there is a real connection with z and the apartments. She visited June 17th, I think.
Here’s the connection:
m said she dropped Caylee off to a ZFG at Sawgrass, and she was driving a silver car.
A ZFG DID visit the Sawgrass apts, near the same time that m said she dropped Caylee off, and she was driving a silver car.
That is a connection, imo.
oh cit…I was just saying sorry for putting wrong name on my reply…you make my heart smile…your so sweet
I think you explain what you mean very well. The problem is the knot of lies that m has told!!!! We’re just trying to untie a few of them. Can you imagine if we were trying to unravel everything? Nightmare!
But, I also agree that there appears to be a connection between where Caylee was dumped and the names. If those homes are truly in the names of Z or F or G, then yes, there is also a connection there. Whether a coincidental connection, we don’t yet know. (I haven’t personally confirmed that those homes are indeed owned by anyone named Z or F or G).
Sometimes connections are coincidental, sometimes not. Until we have confirmation, all we can do is weigh the plausibility of each, and I was just saying that the situation with more variables would be less likely to be the coincidence (if one had to choose). {<<did you follow that? lol — I’d like to ring m’s neck for twisting our brains}
Sorry, but I’ve gtg run an errand. I hate to leave in the middle of a conversation, but I think we’ve established that there are indeed 2 separate connections. Both may be coincidental, and neither may be. (insert emoticon pulling hair out and then slapping m because she caused it)
Yes the only REAL connection is of the visit with zanaida….i meant only real connection meaning a ZFG never lived there in the first place..
June 17th…wow…yo know maybe given that fact…1.5 or 2 days after she killed baby…still in trunk…she was desperate for anyone…zfg…pfg….dkl…ops….it didn’t matter…she needed a name and someone to point a finger at and away from her, for the moment..even though she would get caught would get her out of “whos the nanny” question…by le…she didn’t think past her wonder snatch…
I still think the names of the house peeps is real weird…wonder though…how many other peeps on that street alone have or the other of any of all three names zfg…that would explain to me that the house peeps names was more of a coincidence if there were more on the same street.
I wonder….IF M had been using the name Zenaida and/or Zenaida Gonzales as her nanny to friends, then maybe the ones at Sawgrass said, “Hey, a Zenaida Gonzales was here looking for an apartment. Is she your nanny?” Then M researched her using the info on the card, found out about the car etc. And when pressed by LE came up with that.
cit - I saw tax records or something from one of the peeps in here…was a link…had the names and maps of the house locations and the woods…was just yesterday…no clue where to find it…i live by the seat of my pants and am all over and don’t save much…
maybe someone will remember…it was sometime yesterday….
Hello All: There is a new jailhouse videotape from August that has just been released. Check out M’s temper and control of her parents.One can certainly seee how she could commit murder! The kicker is how she ends the tirade. Tell Zanny WE forgive her
scared monkeys site has records of people who live in the houses~gonna go back and read first post i saw
MTC now that theory is very plausible I like it. Also remember she was looking up Zenaida back in March.
c`a you got a good point after using the name zanni(zanax) for nannys name looking for someone to blame just coincidence zenida gonzales wanted to se thoes apt..m took it and ran with it…still think she had no clue what was gonna happen!
The shovel is another one that I can’t figure out. What did M do when she borrowed the shovel?
LE said there were only two very small marks where the earth was disturbed.
I continue to be a Kronk supporter so I’m very happy that Nejame rewarded Kronk with $5,000.
However, if what was stated on Jane Mitchell’s show last night is true and Kronk still owes $10,000.00 in back child support, I hope he continues his good guy image and pays a good portion of the $5,000 toward his child support. (I’m not holding his back child support against him because I don’t know how his wife’s illness may have affected his financial situation. It’s how he moves forward that counts in my book!)
C-A - Thanks for mulling this over with me. I think on it often. I’m going to do a tax search. I know FL has open records, so the names of current and former owners are online, for all to see. I’ll report back with the info and link when I find it. The house thing may end up being one of those creepy, eerie connections. Or not–she could have chosen that spot bc of the connection with z’s names she got from the apts.
m2c - I thought that m had never actually used the word zenaida as nanny to her friends. I could be wrong, I think she only used the words Zanny the Nanny. But regardless, you have offered a v good possibility. (not a stretch from Zanny to Zenaida)
saluki - Oh man, I hate that I’m leaving for a bit. I really want to watch that video. Thanks! (what a huge, loving heart m has for forgiving z!!!! maybe a hint to C&G for them to forgive her!!!)
As I said earlier the names Zenaida and Gonzales had come up in M’s life since grade school (fellow students). Now we find that two houses on her street were owned by people with those names. Plus zanny could easily have started as the nickname for xanax and then become the nickname for nanny and been easily used as a nickname for Zenaida.
And remember the psychologists say that sociopathic liars like M take bits and pieces of true things to weave into their lies.
It would be interesting to know exactly when she started using the name Zenaida and/or Zenaida Gonzales. I’m sure M’s friends wouldn’t care. Did C ever ask for a last name? She didn’t seem to even need a phone number.
m2c~ as for child support goes my daughters father wasnt in a position to pay i needed help they knew where he was and he could not pay…he got out and i waved what he back owed me cuz he had no way to pay..child support still wants so much money from him and believe me we did not get that much help i was working full time and recived minumal help..
CHSAH sorry about this delay. I have only been to Ben&Jerry’s icecream store. We eat outside, when nice. They are on Coburg Rd. in Eugene. N of Albertson’s - our huge Food Market.
They are in the same little complex that has Newman’s Fish store (their new one). GREAT, great fresh fish. I naver had fish like this in my east coast life!
I am convinced, that all this insanity that boggles our minds, makes our heads spin, muddy’s the waters, is just the Defense’s game plan to confuse us, make us feel crazy, and take the MAIN FOCUS off of the MURDER of this dear little girl, and her KILLER MOTHER. That’s where the focus should always be, but they are fighting HARD to prevent that! I always think of that poor Jury who will be a captive audience, having to sit thru what is to come. I think the info we have now, is NOTHING compared to what is coming!
also now that hes able i have no problem its always paid and when he switched jobs he sent money in so i didnt get behind…i consider myself lucky so many men avoid that responsability!
Concerned in Texas, I agree with everything you said in your 6:49 pm post. I thought that all along until Dak threw a monkey wrench into the works regarding how Zenaida sign her name at Sawgrass.
Now, for a REAL stumper… What do you think M used the shovel for when she borrowed it from the neighbor?
okidoki~later!
I think she was considering burying Caylee, but it is really difficult to dig holes where there are many tree roots, and Kudzu vine roots, she probably tried and said the heck with it and just dumped the bag. She only had the shovel for approximately an hour, so I don’t think she tried too hard, and besides she is really lazy and obviously she could not con anyone into doing it for her. She did however con C who claimed she was digging up bamboo shoots in the yard. After all M is the exemplary mother of the year!!
Sorry for throwing a monkey wrench in there Therapist, I’ll try not to do it again(LOL).
In the new lost video. One must be sure to compliment her on not losing her temper for the last 30 days in jail. She talks about it like she should be getting a sticker or something.
And we must be sure and feel really, really sad for poor kilr…she doesn’t have anyone to comfort her. boohoooboohhooo….. urp… bleeachek, excuse me…I feel sort of sick.
Lulu and Paws…
I noticed that people who are the voice of reason, as I think you two are, and who KNOW how things should be done, are extremely annoying to those who THINK and act very differently than they do. Especially WHEN/IF they try to teach them the correct way. They just don’t “get it”, nor do they want to.
Maybe Sindee started that with M, but I think she was a dollar short, and decades too late…
WHAT a PILOT that was in NY! THE BEST!
C~A if that apology included me… there is no need to apologize.
hey search warrant affidavit that was obtained for things found at the location where caylee was found will be released next week. Telling us what was found at the scene to warrant the affidavit and what was retrieved from the anthonys house….on JVM
Thanks TW - I came back just in time to see that… muah!
SALUKI, I’m going to look for that new jailhouse videotape right now. It sounds disgusting…especially when she said “Tell Zanny WE forgive her” Just like CIT said… she was giving hints to her parents to forgive her. She’s rotten scum!
CIT,
I think that Lee and M might have had a code talk that they have used for many years, to get around controlling C when they were younger.
I also think it is unusual that the last digits on those two homes house numbers are 9 and 1 (4701 and 4709) where Caylee was found.
M said she left Caylee at Sawgrass between 9 am and 1 pm. Yet, she remembered that she got back at 5.30 pm. That 9 am and 1 pm also did not mesh with G statement(M leaving at 12.50 pm).
Lee might have had a good clue to tell Dom where to look.
LE should go with a fine tooth comb over all Lee and M’s recorded conversations.
M did not talk to C & G in code IMO.
snook~sleuth…awesome deduction on the last numbers of the homes….I am sooooooooo impressed…see this goes along with the way she remembers her lies…if she remembers the “real facts _ houses end in 1 and 9…when asked when she dropped her off…she can always use the houses as a “string on the finger” as to what she originally said.
snookers, are you sure M was not more specific about the time she supposedly dropped off Caylee at Sawgrass that day? It sounds too weird for her to say “between 9 and 1″ and not even know if it was 9:30 or 12:30 or whatever, you know? I can’t find her first statement (at Universal) and I think that’s when she said that.
I think M might have used the shovel to get Caylee in the trash bag. She didnot want to touch Caylee with her hands after 2.6 days in the trunk. Did get stuff on her pants though. She did clean the shovel good prior to giving it back to Burner though. aybe in the swimming pool since that had chlorine in it.
MTC - I also remember the same fact from the horses mouth …between 9 and 1..cause i remember thinkin…thats a huge window…
M2C,
No she was not more specific.. Stated between 9 and 1 . It is in first document dump. I always thought that was funny because on the day your daughter goes missing , you tend to remember everything to the T. Not a 4 hour time span.
Windows 7 rawks Tex. The only way I could see anyone disliking it is if it were on bad hardware or an underpowered machine.
I did not like the Vista RTC. Downgraded so many machines and worked on so many hardware issues it wasn’t funny.
I have using the Server 2008 demo with the Vista registry hacks up at work for almost 3 months now. Very stable (though at home it was slow because my memory really wasn’t up to snuff but it was way more stable than Vista RTC ever was).
Windows 7 is only running at home so far (will put it on my work laptop this weekend if all the software I need at work turs out to be bug free). It is running on a 1.94 ghz processor with 512mb RAM (had a gig but found out some of it was bad). All the visual tweaks off. I haven’t got software on it yet but the basics of it simply rawk. I have been beta testing MS stuff since the Windows 95 / NT Chicago beta and MS has never put out such a complete and stable Beta ever. I’m keeping up with the tech blogs and seeing very few valid complaints. Most the complaints I see are from people who have almost no tech skillz and have no business installing beta software anyway.
and she can say what she wants about when she dropped her off…cause aint no zanaida to say otherwise..and yes…grinch couldn’t have seen them at 12:50 for one his description a month later leads me to believe he didn’t see her (baby) at all the next day…Once g and sin got the car home…they knew…and began the cover for maggots a@@. G DID not want LE to think that the last time he saw caylee was when m stormed out mad as hell and took the baby…he wants le to think everything AFTER the fight was status quo….as not give LE motive..( the fight) as reason she killed caylee in the heat of the moment on june 15 …WHEN BABY SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN BED…SINDEE FAILED THAT BABY THAT NIGHT….I BELIEVE BABY WAS KILLED OVERNIGHT OF THE NIGHT OF THE 15 OF JUNE …AFTER SHE DRAGGED BABY OUT OF THE HOUSE AT MIDNIGHT…
Baby Killin Beyyotch is very good at playing with words. The name zanny was funny to her because not only did it refer to the woods / houses link but it also was slang for the xanax she was doping the poor baby with.
Psychopathic minds click on things like that, I know and have experienced it.
The full name all had to do with the houses and code to ‘The Family’ (Manson reference intended and the code talk was meant for the family…leevil is too big of a dolt to figure it out and controling manipulative teewhat knew that). She threw in the Fernandez to mess with LE and give the ant’s time to find the drop spot and move little Caylee.
Betty1.
O/T. Yep, what a pilot. Did a controlled ditch with that plane. Never really lost control of that bird. Just amazing.
C~A Never heard sin even saying there was a disagreement that night, just going on like everything was hunky dory. It took Levil admitting to friends there was the hands around the throat incident for that to come out. Queen of denial…she is.
NG time peepz
NG has lost my fleeting attention span…oh wait is that her fleeting attention span???
Birds get trapped in plane engines all the time and cause mechanical probs. This is not as big of news as all that. Still statistically more risky to frive your car or play outside in a thunderstorm than fly.
Pray no one got hurt, but gravity kills and all.
*drive
BUT GRINCH DID SEE MAGGOT THE NEXT DAY WITHOUT CAYLEE…THAT EVEN COULD HAVE BEEN THE BEGINNING OF THE COVER UP…
Sheller Sin is almost as good of a liar and manipulator as her bitch-cur baby murdering spawn is. baby killin tewwwwhat learned it somewhere.
I agree with some previous posts, Sin was in panic mode on the last 911 call because she isn’t so twisted she would actually commit murder. Ten minutes after getting off that phone though she went back into heinous devil beeeyotch mode again and started practicing the lies and manipulation she taught her daughter so very well.
Good call snookers…pilot deserves a raise. Very controlled nice landing. It could have been very bad indeed. A nose dive or bad angle and that plane might have cracked or fallen apart.
Much like bobo’s and the baby killr he reps case seems to be doing
Thank you CA and Snookers: I guess I couldn’t believe it then and I still can’t!!! LOL! That M couldn’t remember exactly when she “dropped of Caylee” the day she was “kidnapped.”
Couldn’t she have just checked her work records to see what hours she worked that day? LMAO!
She hadn’t worked anywhere in almost a year M2C
Goldie - I know that. I’m being sarcastic.
All the talk of where she got the name Zenaida Gonzales. Do you also remember she said Z was referred to her by Jeff Hopkins because Z was the nanny for his child. When he was contacted, he hadn’t spoken to M for ages and he wasn’t even married. Weren’t they just casual acquaintances in high school?
WHAT IS SHE CRYING ABOUT ALREADY…? LIKE SHE DOESNT’ FEEL THE PAIN OF CAYLEE BEING MISSING ….TYPICAL…IF IT’S NOT ABOUT HER IT’S NOT JUSTIFIED…
The second thing, relating to the possibility that g has prob been covering up….when she is asked who she wanted to talk to ..SHE CHOOSES HIM…THE FATHER SHE HATED? CAUSE MAYBE HE HAS HELPED HER COVER UP SINCE JUNE 16
He has never shown any true or real emotion…he tries to do the right thing..however…gj..but wants it held secret..maybe havin second thoughts on his role…keepin all from sindee…she is the ony one that seems to cry real tears with this new video..or show real pain or any kind of stress in her face…g sits back…
i suppose we can al hash and rehash this case to the end kinda funny all senerios about ething e1 comes up with…in the long run thats all were doing is rehashing something keeping it in the news…sorry if i offended anyone jmo…
anna - what? we have to keep it in the news…we are caylees voice…we want justice…what are you trying to say anna?
capy - I often wondered why she did’t just leave peeps out of the whole zanny circle that could discredit her story…why not just say she met her at fusion and nobody else knew her…to make her lie stretch that much further…with no dicredits to knowing someone else that she babysat for that would debunk her lies…???
I mean….why make up the whole nanny thing so far in advance….just say i made a mistake and let someone babsit my child that i didn’t know…and now she is gone….she might have gotten away with that one…
but grinch always said she took things to extreme and that might of been too boring for her…needs more excitment to along with the intenitial homicide…she craved attention…that will utlitmatly put her behind bars and her elaborte twisted lies.
C~A she chose dad cuz she has daughter diddling crap over his head…momma sin aint never been nothing but a pain to the baby killr….she chose the one she had control over and could manipulate.
Snookers, I did notice Lee was always taking notes, when he talked to M.in jail. Paddy said too, Lee always carried around this “book” with him. Sure thing, they HAD to keep track of their lies, codes, etc. I think you are right. But,they could have had time to set them up on one of the oaccasions when she was home on bail?
Saw the new tapes. Parents falling apart, especially the mother. M? Smiling, very UP-BEAT!
She was getting out on BAIL!!!! YESSS! Only SHE COUNTS! No one else! She is missing an organ, a heart! So, so, so, so sick!
~couldnt even finish watching the last vidio~ she is soself centered and with a missing childits to unreal and the ants console her and make it ok…and shes behind bars…whatever such dysfunction….unbelievable~nite guys ~anna
Props Betty1…agreed…
***sends off balloons in your honor***
Psycho Kunt lives in a fantasy world…ants totally support it for some vile undisclosed reason.
A year and a half from now she will be in fear of having her ass shanked once the homegurls are tired of using her tounge if not before.
bettt - yup m says…WHAT IS SHE CRYING FOR ALREADY??? WTF…OH ONLY YOU CAN BREAK HER HEART ….CAYLEE CANT’ IN ALL HER INNOCENSE…AND THAT FACT THAT SHE IS ‘missing’…maggot is the most jeous self centered twisted fck i have ever laid eyes on.
HER BABY IS MISSING…(AND SHE KNOWS SHE IS DEAD FOR F SAKE ) AND SHE SAYS…WHAT IS SHE CRYING ABOUT ALREADY…WHEN SHE KNOWS HER MOTHER DOESNT’ KNOW WHERE HER GRANDAUGHTER IS…SHE HOW JELOUS SHE REALLY WAS…OF A BABY…THT PAID WITH HER LIFE CAUSE SHE GOT MORE ATTENTION THEY MAGGOT DID..????
I CANT’ WRAP MY BRAIN AROUND THIS BITCH
OMG, POOR M!!! She’s a victim too & her life has been completely taken away! Holy sheep sh~t, why didn’t someone say something sooner??
No wonder she is so frustrated & angry, her words, after all how dare C make chili on Caylee’s bday while poor M was hiding under her covers in bed.
ARRGH, the new video makes me want to drive to Florida, storm the jail & ram my fist down her stinky slimy mouth & spit in her face!
K, I’ll read back now that I’ve vented. If u haven’t watched the lasted video do so, w/ a drink her hand
Where the he// is my pickles…chsah…xoxoxo
C~A we sure do have a WORLD CLASS DRAMA QUEEN there! Everything, taken to a level of insanity. There isn’t one normal thing I can think about her. Not one.
The queen also calls BOZO her Attorney, not her Lawyer, and Nanny, not babysitter. Such a elegant, sophisticated lady this leech, squatter, liar. I have never seen such delusions…
js - that wasn’t on ng..where you see that…and uhm…HI
NICE TO SEE YOU
BETTY - You got it…with the high class self proclamations…
Hey C~A, well ty, nice to see u too! here’s the link on line
myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=8258540&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
Every time I see this evil teeewhat laughing in jail knowing that her child is rotting I wish ever addict, street person, lost person I have ever known in life who lost a child to CPS or their addictions could meet the baby killn bitch in her cell one on one.
Even when I knew I was dealing with people who never would ‘want to get fixed’ when they were in jail they were straight up with remorse for whatever petty shit they had done. Evil bitch teewhat baby killer deserves death. Knows her child is dead by her own hands and she laughs, lies, and eats cheezy poofs off the kindness of strangers.
Can I change my sex and please go commit a violent crime in Florida so I can play the odds of being locked up with this c-hunt? I would love to wring her effin neck…
Atleast she’s not laughing much in this one. There’s no way of knowing but based on her attitude in this vid I think she would have killed someone else if Padilla hadn’t bailed her out. It gave her a break to recoup & have her lies coddled.
She’s so loveable, I mean I can really see why C&G want her back home HAHAHA, they should be sleeping better knowing she’s locked up.
Goldie_Fishy said “(XP) 7 rawks Tex. did not like the Vista RTC. Using the Server 2008 demo with the Vista registry hacks but more stable than Vista RTC. Windows 7 is only running at home It is running on a 1.94 ghz processor with 512mb RAM visual tweaks off. Simply rawk. I have been beta testing MS stuff since the Windows 95 / NT Chicago beta and MS has never put out such a complete and stable Beta ever.”
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Goldie_Fishy and CIT are talking in code again!
Keep an eye on these two!
C~A neither can I wrap my head around this B**ch!
Hey, aren’t we funny, analyzing all this? God help us .. no wonder our heads spin TRYING to figure out THAT demented mind! I wonder if a SHRINK could? Got to HAND IT TO US THO … a lot of heart here on this blog.
When this is over, in 4 years … where do we go next? I didn’t know anything about blogs before this one, (1 month here), but I would think THIS one will last longer than any ever did! Look at the bonding here! We just go back to our lives? What WILL we do? Just thought of something funny speaking of “bonding”. Some politician said “I believe in bondage between parent and child.” BONDAGE????
I was just thinking about something fairly interesting. Suppose M was found INNOCENT and allowed to go free, along with everybody else involved in this case. Their lives would be ruined forever OUTSIDE of jail!
Agreed JR…if LE hadn’t gotten enuff to add it up I think that the ant’s might have been in ‘danger’. I think that might be part of why they won’t turn coats on her…they are scared of what the evil kunt has for them / on them.
If they didn’t know they were already sort of dirty in this I think they would have ratted her out long ago. She has things on all of them and they are scared what she might do if she gets out.
Lulu their lives are shit…except they would have the money to surf the shit if baby killing teeewhat gets off….book deals interviews…$$$$ galore off lies lies lies and BABY KILLING MURDER!!!!!
Lulu (the original) said,in January 15th, 2009 at 9:43 pm “I was just thinking about something fairly interesting. Suppose M was found INNOCENT and allowed to go free”
Bite ur tongue right now Lulu
I usually agree with everything Dr. Bethany Marshall says but tonight (IMO)Padilla had more insight into the newly released Aug jailhouse tapes than Dr Marshall.LOL
Bethany said C&G were courageous in trying to get the truth out of M in the jailhouse visits. (What video was she watching?) Padilla said that C&G were totally mesmerized with M the whole time.
You be the judge… what was your interpretation of these new jailhouse tapes?
Were the Ants looking for the truth or hypnotized by their rotten daughter’s double talk?
Therapist we are talking bout demos of the last microsoft release and the newest one (dominating a newly purchased computer near you soon). No code. I’m a techie by paycheck. I like risking blowing up my computer on test software
ooops not betty…therapist that pebble was fer jooh!!!!
We keep talking about M getting her true justice in the general population of the prison someday. I was just talking about how that possibility would also exist outside of prison. They will never enjoy their money. It will not bring them a single thing that is good.
Betty, to answer your question: “When this is over, in 4 years where do we go next?”
My reply:
Maybe to yell for JUSTICE FOR STACY PETERSON” Hopefully, they will have Drew arrested by then.
Goldie, she just need the sh~t slapped out of her repeatedly until she understands she ain’t special! I think it was in Rick’s ( C’s bro ) emails or when he posted on some site, he said M was always the princess blah blah, got by w/ murder, now literally, it was in comparision to LV. So yea she needs her crown ripped off via her throat. She looks nuts in the vid, more than normal.
Paddy has gotten less colorful now that the walls are closing in. I know he bailed when he figued out the teewhat was a baby killer but as the evidence mounts that the ant’s got something to do about it he keeps making his mouth seem less stupid.
He is a hick Pickles, agreed…but notice how he is starting to get more and more quiet and taking a ‘Told you so’ attitude?
Just my opinion…kick pebbles at me later.
Hi y’all
Maybe the Zenaida from the apartment scenario went like this:
Maybe M was visiting her friends from across the street from Sawgrass, and while parking her car, found some of Zenaida’s documents on the ground (accidently fallen out of Z’s car the day she applied for an apartment)
Maybe the name Zenaida stood out to M and she made the mental connection between Zanny and Zenaida. She saw the names on that document, or personal letter or something like that, and that is also where she got the names of the kids and used them as roomates names.She may have thought the person likely lived close by since she found the papers at that sight, so used it later to choose a place to say she left Caylee, once she decided she was going to blame it on the nanny.
Js…I had to stop at the part she said all i want is my KID back…I have to say this is one of the coldest, self centered videos of her I have seen to date…
NOT ONCE, “WHERE IS MY BABY..WHERE IS SHE MOMMY DADDDY FIND MY CHILD…I CAN’T LIVE WITHOUT HER…WHOLLY FCK!
She is only concerned about being out of the loop and having peeps gather for CAYLEE at the home WITHOUT HER..she is missing out on stuff…
she says..when i get out of here…blah blah…and about how nobody sees things from her perspective and how she is being so frustrated..all i heard about her frustration was that she is in jail..and eveyone else is gathering for caylee…
Oh and grinch…”what’s going on with you’??
and “thanks for “taking the time” to talk with us” and how “you are the boss casey and we are all your employees”????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????/
i could just spit…choke the life right out of the whole fam…c shows real distress on this video..but grinch DOES NOT…OMG
She is nuts JR…true psychopath. No denying that.
Therapist Wannabe! said,in January 15th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
My husband has only listened to bits & pieces, this is the 1st tape of M he’s heard for more than 5 minutes. He’s in the recliner & keeps yelling better ?’s for C&G to ask then they’re asking.
M is a master manipulator, C&G imo don’t want or need to know the truth. They’re getting the answers by the way she’s reacting, kind of like we are. Everything is about M, good thing she’s still on the earth or the sun wouldn’t come up tomorrow
K P33PZ off to Windows 7 land for a bit. I’ll post from there if all my software goes well. If not I’ll just be pulling my hair out all night.
(Oh wait…I ain’t got none)
CY’ALL
***kicks a pebble at Therapist (who deflects)…knocks to JR (deflects)…hits Pickles…she shoots..she scores!!!!***
C~A “Oh and grinch…”what’s going on with you’??
and “thanks for “taking the time” to talk with us” and how “you are the boss casey and we are all your employees”?
ROFL, my husband raised up out of the chair on that one & said ‘he’s f~ed up’
How bout this new vid though, should C&G just give it up now u think?? How can u paint that anyway but evil knowing now that she was dead?
And what was it 30min’s before she even acknowledged there was a Caylee, went on 4ever about herself.
I’m glad this wasn’t released w/ the others, I like seeing it for the 1st x knowing what I know now.
Goldie_Fishy, I was just trying to make a funny about the code thingamajiggy but it evidently went over like a lead balloon. Sorry!
ARE YOU FLUCKING KIDDING ME CASEY.
The only thing you are frustrated about, is the fact that NO ONE believes YOUR LIES!!! YOU ARE DONE CASEY!!! FINISHED!!! NO MORE!!! No wonder your mother is the way she is, You treat her like a no body out of JEALOUSY , Casey. Since you are so stuck on yourself Casey, Do yourself a favor and make a plea deal. Unless of course, you want to drag your family in the mud some more. You know you killed Caylee, and you did it out of jealousy and because you really are a spiteful BIOTCH!!! Get over yourself Casey and do the right thing.
Therapist Wannabe! said,
in January 15th, 2009 at 9:53 pm
Betty, to answer your question: “When this is over, in 4 years where do we go next?”
My reply:
Maybe to yell for JUSTICE FOR STACY PETERSON” Hopefully, they will have Drew arrested by then.
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Don’t get me started here Therapist…OMG…
Gotta remember it is a cold case though. Takes time to build that old shit about his ex up. I only hpe he dies of a painful chicken fried dinner heart attack soon because yeah that one is gonna take time.
Wonder how long before Drew starts writing the baby killing kay-hunt? Surprised it hasn’t already happened. Birds of a feather…
We kewl therapist…I may feel passionate about thinking this baby killing bitch needs to fall down the stairs accidentally quite a few times while in OCSO property…I take the net light. You good peepz
Therapist Wannabe - I was sitting here in OR laughing at your post about the “code”. It was very funny! Not a lead balloon - everywhere.
LOL!
My 2 cents….That was a good one..check her work record..LmaO…
Way to fall into it Goldfish..sorry..still laughing. You guys are too funny. Nice to come home to.
We all a bit funny over a bunch of sad things
***passes flowers, balloons, and candy around the room…release the balloons and kick the chocolates at Pickles fer being to quiet***
Betty, M2C, PAW, C~A, JR and all…night fer now got dumb techie crap to do
Pickles…I just kicked a pebble…ya’ll all play soccer with it til she comes back.
Peeace EV1…good thoughts and good thinks.
Goldie … a good idea about sleeze ball Drew P.
I felt so deeply about this beautiful little one - wanted to get involved to help, if I could.
I tell you, these people that break the law, and/or kill, and who are in the field of law enforcement themselves, or live with people who are in law enforcement, obviously pick up things that we don’t know, and are SLICK and harder to catch! I think!! TEFLON CASEY!
My Stalker’s mother worked in the Police Department. That made it much more difficult to catch him too.Insiders know about procedures, and how things work. They have an edge over us.
Nite for now Goldie & thanks for the candy!
Sheller said,in January 15th, 2009 at 10:42 pm
so glad u posted that, I had to scroll up to see what MTC wrote & Goldie fell into, ROFL, best posts of the day
I just remembered, M is “WRITING” her thoughts in jail. Shall we guess who will be selling them? Maybe he will bring her drawing paper and pencils too. $$$$$$$$
Tomorrow…
Hey y’all
If by drawing pencils and paper…large crayons and crate paper for the child then yes im sure bb will be bringin it in
Hey y’ll…you baby face. Get carded today?
C~A I posted about a tax bill on one of those houses. Found it just by typing in the name and address of the house. Tax bill popped up with another name on it. I didn’t save it or anything. Could try to find it again, but it was a WASP type name, I think .like Smith or Jones.
Torie’s CLUE game was too funny. You have a very creative mind…..
No I didnt ….baby face mcgee
I was thinkin Pickles…with all those macrobiology classes and chemistry…you might even want to become a DNA analyst. That’s what my ‘75 does.
Jrs.farm….they were good. Thanks for lookin back, I’d have hated to miss em.
PAGING..CHSAH….PAGING…CHSAH…
therapini - I thought it was hilarious!
About the shovel. I haven’t thought much about it. I thought the neighbor gave 2 different stories about when she returned it, and I never did understand how long she really had it. But if the dogs hit somewhere in the backyard, then either m would’ve had to have left Caylee in the playhouse, sandbox, or buried her (or possibly buried her clothes), presumably that’s where the shovel would have been used. Or as someone mentioned, possibly she used it to pick her up (though I can think of numerous other household items to use, rather than borrowing a shovel–such as a sheet). What do you think about the shovel?
goldy - Enjoy your 7. More ‘power’ to ya! rofl
I’ve got to go watch that video. PAW–good letter to m.
hey picklet!
Concerned - I thought that guy was about the most honest sounding witness so far. Called in quick, met them at his work to give his first statement, then came in for the official calendar statement. Sounded real truthful, earnest.
***kick…pebble right upside jooh head Pickles***
I’m telling you, I need a new computer.$*@!
Sheller - I agree that he sounded earnest. But didn’t he change his story about how long she had the shovel? I seem to remember him saying m returned it to him, and then he said she returned it to his son, at a different time. I don’t mean to imply anything other than him being mixed up, which means we don’t know which version is correct. In other words, no conspiracy theory bubbling! (or am I mixed up on this????)
Therapist I just installed a beta of Microsoft’s latest and greatest on an 8 year old Dell straight from the factory and it’s running clean…you need a tech not a new PC!!!
therapist– I got a second laptop for Christmas, one that I can easily take back and forth to school (don’t like the desktop in my office bc of ’stupid’ institutional software).
The laptop is the cutest thing! It’s about 5″ x 7,” called a Netbook. Cost $350, and it’s 160 gig. They come in blue, pink, gray, or brown. Of course, the screen is small, but I love it! Can’t beat the price, esp if you mainly use it for emails, getting online, and simple programs such as Word or Excel.
Ugh tex starting to see something I dont like…the task bar sux. They are trying hard for a mac rolling menu but they cant do it on that kernel…gimmie my flooded windows taskbar back please LOL….other than that its been peachy keen thus far.
Therapist Wannabe! I listened to the tape several times. I think sin was trying to guilt her into coming out with it. G was trying to coax her into being in charge. Kilr was trying her best to get them to feel sorry for her and if they would just get her out….she could do more to help. Bleccshshck, gag…then she started to show her true colors, anger, so mad she couldn’t control herself, basically spoiled self centered manipulating self. Thought she was going to come through the glass when Sin asked her “is there anything there?” I think in her head she just can’t tolerate these stupid ignorant bumbling idiots that can’t see how smart and caring she really is. She’s getting a cold, too. boohoo to you kilr. Sickening.
WOAH…did she say that Baez “showed” her an episode of Nancy Grace at the jail?????? Maybe that is why he brings a laptop. Isnt that against the rules?? Still listening…she is a selfish witch!
She is working the dad over pretty good!….making him feel guilty !..cuz mom wont let her talk…LOL!!
Computer Finder is taking up a collection so I can search for a new computer that doesn’t freeze up on me like our Michigan weather.
When it freezes up all I know how to do is swear! So, if I disappear it’s not because you’re not laughing at my jokes.
I agree Sheller..it was manipulative mind against each other. Know who won??? Pshyco baby killing bitch cuz she knew she already had evil gmah beat…baby was dead. No pawns left to play…check mate.
Get this trial over quick and please someone shank this bitch. I will pad your commisarry for life if you do LOL
I never read the shovel owners transcript from the face to face. From the released audio, calendar/timeline with Edwards asking questions I think, He seemed real clear about mowing, coming into take a shower, telling his son (who isn’t allowed to usually open the door…imagine a caring parent with children who mind in that neighborhood?). After shower, he comes out, after a while Casey returned the shovel. He puts in garage as he had already locked the shed. Just what I rememebered…
Only thing he changed was seeing the green truck in their driveway with kilr and whitemale the day before gas can theft. Wife wouldn’t let him say anything to G and sin…stay out of it, you don’t know.
HATE he can do whatever he wants with that laptop / letters / ect in jail…it is all subject to search and seizure rules.
Let him show her NG episodes…maybe it will make her get how much NORMAL PEOPLE totaly hate her and she would be better off dead.
Oh no…bobo would never tell her that…not until after he got in that nasty ass snail trail….
goldy - Well, all I can say is that college writing instructors have had nightmares with the changes in Word. The defaults that students can’t seem to figure out how to change, the fact that a 7 version of Word is incompatible with 97-03, extra spaces between paragraphs, … oh I could go on and on about Word, but I’ll restrain myself.
But I’ve had it since it first came out, and I still don’t like it. Many changes seem to have been made just for the sake of change, and not for sake of improvement. They got rid of many features I used regularly. Just disappeared! My perspective is from ‘user’ standpoint, not techie one.
Did you catch her back to back confusion? I don’t know anything cause I’m in here, I’ve been in here a month. Maybe the next sentence, Baez keeps me completely up todate with everything and I thank him for it. Then, I wasn’t even supposed to do this. (meeting I guess). Can’t keep her stories straight even in a short conversation. About laughed when she said she wasn’t getting special treatment…she ought to be in regular population a day or so.
Tex….
*slings snot* all over Fish!!!
She did say she had read a lot of the comments people were putting out on her. She may have visited here. Now that’s a thought. I hope so. LOL
They were not only reading blogs they were printing them out..and reading them then throwing the print outs away
Tex…(checkUmail)
Sheller, I think M simply wants C&G never to mention Caylee’s name to her again. It aggravates her to think that if it weren’t for Caylee she wouldn’t be in jail. It’s all Caylee’s fault and C&G too for talking about Caylee and making her have to make up stories on the spur of the moment. M double talks on and on about nothing. Nothing M rambles on about even makes sense.
Tex…you never put a beta or test program into a production environment!!!
Hell our parent company overseas was part of why microsoft backed off on the canceling of XP support back in early 08 because the parent co are share holders in netbook companies overseas and vista had enough nightmares let alone the multi lingual support.
If you or someone else let the win anything (including vista) betas or Vista in general into your environment without testing or knowing the failures that were gonna come your bad or your tech guys bad man.
I do get your user standpoint…cuz I was used to being able to find and fix shit a certain way too and Vista pissed me off much like Win98, XP, and yes vista did too by trying to ‘reform’ where things logically were supposed to be. They always do that, they try and keep up with the times and how people navigate and use their systems…they can’t always predict or please everyone all the time. Vista RTC one…they dropped the ball in favor of a bad plan of protecting peoples PC. Seven’s on the way of fixing that.
Fish…your intelligence is showing
*slap joo00h*
Are they code talking?
Therapist…I agree..she wants for nothing more then for them and anyone else for that matter to bring Caylee’s name up to her ever again…..she wants the world including them to forget about her..IF it wasnt for Caylee she wouldnt be in this situation..IF it wasnt for c and g loving Caylee and calling 911 she wouldnt be in this situation..if it wasnt for the car being towed and for Caylee stinking it up she wouldnt be in this situation…if c would of just minded her own business regarding Caylee she wouldnt be in this situation.
No Fish’s intelligence is showing though
!!!
Goodnight guys…too late for me…thanks for taking time to ……………..just kiddin.
Gnite Sheller…talk to joooh l8dr!!!
Posting in stupid mode now Pickles (installing and testing software…kicking big pebbles joo way)
CIT… thanks for your 11:30 pm post. I will check in to it. I didn’t know that I could find something so reasonable.
This one is six years old and on it’s last leg for some reason.
Pickles you are spot on with your description of M.
The only thing I would add is that she couldn’t care less about C&G’s love all she was jealous of was all the money they were spending on Caylee and not on her. She wanted them to spend their money only on her. IMO.. and Bethany Marshall’s too! LOL
Okay… now that I got my computer working everyone else is sleeping.
Well, this gives me time to scroll up and read everything I missed earlier.
Youre right FISHY…she should watch nancy grace.
Someone has to help me with something please….In her interogation with LE from Universal after she lead them there…she told them that she got a call the day before from caylee and all she kept talking about is the book she was reading and then she said “we even have a video of that book she was reading”..she makes it a point..So with that said, is it true that that same book in the video was in one of the crime scene photos?…If so, she threw her away with that book inside the bag, and made sure she mentioned it????? As if the person she was with the day before killed her cuz she KNEW she had that book with her??? Maybe? or do I have that all wrong? someone put me out of my misery about that or validate me please
Hate she is like an evil robot…nothing the baby killin teeewhat makes any sense in the normal frame of mind and how anyone could see the way she acts once she is actually caged (including the ant’s unless they have something to hide) is beyond me.
Thanks Pickles….smarter than I seem fer mah self sometimes I guess.
***showers Pickles in flowers and fergets the pebbles for now***
Thanks Fishy..so you dont think she planted that information to LE knowing she buried the kid with that book? and I am trying to find out if that book WAS in the crime scene photos?
Hi Hateliars, Yesterday on NG a caller asked if the book was found with Caylee The ancwser was no.
Can’t sleep.
We should speak Politically Correct here when we refer to M. Here is how we should refer to her:
She’s not EASY, shes HORIZONTALLY ACESSIBLE.
She has not BEEN AROUND, she is a PREVIOUSLY ENJOYED COMPANION.
She is not a TWO BIT HOOKER, she is a LOW COST PROVIDER.
She does not act like a TOTAL A**, she developed a case of RECTAL-CRANIAL INVERSION.
Nothing about the book in anything I have heard other than speculation HATE.
Truth is we are not gonna hear jack from LE or the prosecution until the trial because they knew they had a case even before this poor baby was found and they have nothing to showboat, distract from, or prove. They aren’t gonna say chit.
It would be nice if they would nail one of the hammy bastids like dummy-dick, Sin, or Leevil for obstruction because it is all over that on all of them like flies to honey…but they have such a good case I think that they are just gonna let the pissants moan all they want and then wish they could ever live a normal life again after making such evil assholes out of themselves.
***kick Pickles…going to sleep red***
I think I’ll try a dull book … maybe that’ll work. ‘nite all
Hear hear betty…raise ur kiddos and influence ur friends to know bettah
Thanks fishy and LSJ!…now I check that one off my list. lol
I think she borrowed shovels from the neighbor on 2 seperate occasions a day or so apart.
The theory about planting the book may still be true, as it would have had to be a different book anyway, because the nanny had supposedly bought her a new book.
“sheller”…gudday from W.A. I live in a little suburb near Perth {the capital of Western Australia} came here in 1956 from Yorkshire England. It is 3:15pm in the arvo {Friday 16th} the temp outside is over 100 degrees {just ducked outside to get the mail…burnt my hand lifting the lid of the mail box}..swap ya for some snow.
Watched the “miracle on the Hudson” early this morning. Kudos to the pilot/crew & rescue teams..its just amazing that all 150 are alive.
Tim and all…
The idea of any of the ant’s on their own planting shit after the last 911 call by sin is absurd. There is no way it could happen.
Not like they didn’t bring it on themselves or not but the media was up their ass from that point. we should thank God for that. Because the media was up their asses they couldn’t move Caylee once they figured out baby murdering wonder snatch’s code.
Again no way it could happen after the fact and if you even think baby killin teewhat had enough emotion to put something sentimental at the dump site then you are backing off on the reality of what a psykunt killr bitch she is.
“sillybutt” I thought your dog analogy was very good.
Watched snivelling/simping/whimpering/whingings jail tape on Greta…IMO she made no sense whatsoever, just kept saying that she couldn’t do anything because her butt was stuck in jail..NEWS FLASH CASEY..invite LE to visit..tell the truth..take a plea & spend the rest of your life in jail {sans parole}.
goldie fishy
Yay!
Windows 7- you must have had success!
Welcome Jill WA…
I’d like to see her baby killing ass in jail sans parole but sick people on the outside are already keeping her in donuts, cheezy poofs, and sketch pads.
She is going to get what she always wanted unless someone shanks her ass. Eternal attention.
Like I said…can I get a sex change and commit a violent offense in Florida please. I’d play the odds to get the chance to throttle this baby killing bitch. I’m not even a criminal…
My only comfort in this is knowing without the DP she will end up in the general population. She will be used like a rag doll by the head beeeyotches and then thrown to the dawgs. Even Dahmer didn’t last two years. This bitch will get shanked fast.
I am “mad as hell!!!” read somewhere that one of the 3 or 4 dickwits who are putting money in her commish a/c comes from Melbourne {a state of Eastern Australia!} If I may I would like to invite this “TWIT” to come on this blog and tell us WHY???…you are giving us Ozzies a bad name! {I begrudged her the 82c roast beef Chrissy dinner…Caylee had nothing!..she DESERVES NOTHING!!!
Like many I am scared “shitless” that Bozo & the rest of his yukky team may get her acquitted {jurors can be stupid sometimes..eg OJ.} However if she were to be released I am sure that someone would do the world a favor..think you know what I mean.. {I would be willing to put money in that persons commish a/c for the rest of their life along with the other person who posted this thought!}
Success in everything but the video driver Tim but it is not a machine up to the beta programs specs anyway. I have everything but Office 2003 installed on it so far but other than video playback (again it is trying to use a generic driver) there is nothing I have to complain about. XP SP 2 was the bomb but this seems to be out performing it without all the pretty shit that everyone expected out of Vista (notice they are pushing performance over pretty this time around). I actually am thinking about trying to do an upgrade from XP3 which gets my video driver to Win 7 and seeing if anything about that changes. Gonna tap a few more resources about a hacked vid driver for Win 7 before I try that though.
Yup jill they are…last I heard she went from $28 to over $300 since the body was found. Sick f**ks anyway.
“Goldie-Fish” .. I thought I had read somewhere that because of the media noteriety she would never be in gen-pop…DP or not?
Hope you are right…if not maybe she could “slip in the shower!”
Buried my only grandchild in {stillborn} in 2006..feel very strongly about this case…{thankfully in 2008 my daughter gave birth {by C-Section} to a 1 month premmie little boy..one day after her 39th birthday..now he is 9 months old but suffering from petit-mal-seizures…this little boy has never tasted commercial baby food..my daughter cooks EVERY meal for him!…grrrr!!!! did Casey ever cook food for Caylee…hmmmm!!! don’t think so..all she cared about was stealing money to buy drugs…you have nooooo idea how much I hate her!!!
Sadly Jill that is a possibility. Corrections facilities are run by private companies much like nabisco sells oreoes now and I don’t know how or who runs Florida’s any more and the companies running the jails decide how they are housed.
She should be in GP and her charges reflect GP…in most cases / companies running jails her charges would put her there. Could actually be part of why the prosecution isn’t going after her harder than they are I might think and yeah I have some experience in this.
hate to admit it but I think LE actually has turned the dawgs out on this one and they are doing everything they can to make sure she has no corner to back into to make sure she suffers. If she gets convicted of murder one….no parole…appeal or not she is in GP. If she got a DP conviction it would be automatic appeal and protective custody.
I think LE had enough of her games and all the attention it was drawing away from their day to day duties. They let her lies hang herself and made sure she would suffer all she could. DP would just mean she would die about 10 years before I did of natural causes. They knew where they were putting the spoiled rotten bitch and God help her among the crackheads who lost kids to CPS in general population.
***throws a shooter marble at Pickles cuz her big mouth keeps this blog alive and she left us***
Night peeps….love all the talk…but it’s all about tat poor baby. Never ferget that.
***marble upside ur head Pickles***
C-A & Annie & all:
Regarding scaredmonkeys theory of 4701 & 4709 Hopesprings.
I researched this, and the tax records show Peter Gonzales did own 4701 Hopesprings and sold it 5/5/08 to Fredesvinda.
However, tax records for 4709 Hopesprings show owner to be Alice & Dennis Dilley.
Scaredmonkeys forum got the Zenaida name for 4709 Hopesprings on whitepages.com. Name is Zenaida Almodovar. No phone number for her; only the address. She could be renting the property.
The possible problem with this theory is that there’s no way to confirm this Zenaida because anyone can add a listing to whitepages.com. It doesn’t come from the phone company, and indeed there is no phone number for this Z.
Soooo, at this point, it is still an interesting theory, but like so many other things in this case, no confirmation, except for the Gonzales. (spelled with “s” on tax records)
Morning all
CIT - Thats just it, nothing has to be real in this case…nobody, no name, no place etc…that is why I give LE so much credit for what looks to be such an incredible case against maggot..they started out behind the eight ball with all the lies and scattered bits of the truth if any at all…and not only do they have the suspect lying evertime she opens her mouth, the whole damn family is covering up for her…they have (le) not support to truth within the family…that’s got to be hard to build a case on that..
Anna and Lil ~ you guys here…
Morning peeps..
Morning C-A, I’m here.. you here??haha.. duhhh…
I was reading all the posts I missed yesterday, WOW, there was alot of them! C-A, I agree with your post 6:16 this AM, I also give big KUDOS
to LE.. I imagine trying to sort out the huge mess has to be exhausting..
all the lies, from the whole family.
To be honest, I have no idea in ref to street names etc.. all I am certain about is m lied about everything, and she killed her baby and threw her away in a garbage bag.. in the swamp. That is enough for me..
C-A.. how are you today?? TGIF!
Good research Concerned in Tex.at 2:44 a.m. Since you seem about obssessive compulsive over the details as I do, do you remember when someone said lots of these names were mixtures of her highschool classmates? Was Zaneida one of the names and Gonzales another classmates or am I conjuring that up from several months ago. Just sort of half remember it being mentioned but I don’t know by who. Thanks.
gudday ausie…Was an awesome landing. Great that everyone was safe and this guy walked the plane a couple times to make sure everyone was out.
Betty 1, Your politically correct verbage was OUTSTANDING. LOL Creative smart-ssing! I loved it. Standing ovation!!
OMG… wasn’t that the most amazing thing?? That pilot and his crew definitely had Gods hand helping them…
morning all…m was a party girl, her parents untill now had no money, whats the odd of someone going thru all sorts of trouble to set her up..planting the hair in the trunk, dumping the baby in her former hang out spot she was a no one b4 all this all the excuses and lies, on the new vidio shes upset cuz they didnt give her 24 hrs b4 they locked her up…hello she had 31 days if she hhad called within the first 1/2 hr maybee then shed have got 24 hrs to help…and this controll thing why do they always say shes to one in controll funny how she gets upset when being questioned by c or lv guess the questions are asked b4 she can think of lies to go with..the only confusing part is the property names, but you figure she lived there her whole life she had to have known and if she hung out there good chance she did.
no ones just gonna take and kill you child and plant all that evedince for no reason, i guess thats what im trying to say.
I agree Anna. I was just picturing the PI, Casey’s call with the psychic. I think I see the psychic with two phones..one to the ants up to one ear and one to the PI on the other ear. She is the relay…talks to the PI…talks to the ants…talks to the PI…talks to the ants. A low-rent conference call focusing the PI where to look. Surely they will check all phone records. Probably why it took so long.lol
I don’t know if this has already been mentioned before. But, I remember (at the beginning of this case) when LE was releasing tapes and information that could be detrimental to Casey’s case…Baez stated something to the effect that he will be making his own “moves” and that he wasn’t going to be talking about any of that yet.
Interesting…considering all thats been going on since Caylee’s body was found. Perhaps all thats going on are simply his “moves”.
May Jose Baez burn in hell for all eternity.
Okay lets bite into the theory that this whole time the gra