This one was another great radio show, Jan and I have been following the story with fine tooth picks, but even we miss a few things. Our callers though are even more meticulous than we are. It is always exciting to open up the phone lines, and this afternoon was no exception.
What surprises me is just what a huge effect the death of one small child, Caylee Anthony could have on so many people.
The media circus is salivating, the dead tot’s mom Casey Anthony sits in jail as the only credible killer. Over the past 6 months Casey has led Law Enforcement on a huge number of wild goose chases, Zanny the Nanny, working at Universal Studios are clearly a couple of outstanding ones. Eventually though, the cops do know when they are being fed a line. Parents may choose to overlook the occasional transgression of decency, friends may even forgive a few checks signed in their name. But they should at some point realize they have a problem on their hands.
Mother Casey Anthony has a row with her parents George and Cindy, and takes off with her daughter Caylee, supposedly to stay with friends. Although Casey keeps in touch with her parents, a long 31 days pass, and the grandparents have not heard their grandchild’s voice. The rest, as they say, is history.
Today’s radio show explored many aspects of the case, and I for one was amazed at the depth of knowledge shown by many of our callers.
If you missed the live broadcast you can catch it here.
Simon and Jan Barrett
















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“(And Like Casey) It Is In The Can!”
Great line! lol
Absolutely fabulous show!
I wish someone would tell me how to pick up the show in North Carolina, I can not find it for the life of me. I’d sure like to be able to listen at least if not able to call with a comment. If you can tell me how, or what frequency I may be able to find it. Thanks to all who take part, I understand it is a great talk show. We have all shared in the grief from the act of a monster mom and it is some comfort to know that others are out there feeling the same way. We all draw strength from each other and your articles sure hit it on the head. Keep up the good work!
Enjoyed today, as usual! Thanks!
Gannieto4 - Right now you can hear the program by looking at the article above and clicking on “here” that is in bold type. You hear it right on your computer - be sure your audio is up (speakers on etc).
Next week you can access the radio show by looking at the right side of this page. Above the big black box that reads Writers Wanted is a smaller blue box with a bar in it. Click on the arrow pointing to the right - white arrow in black circle. If that does not work then look farther up the page for a black bar that reads BloggerNews On the Air and click on that.
That’s what I did today (used the black bar).
how can i pick up the radio show jan. i read your articles all the time but i keep missing the show.and what time does it air. i live in iowa and in central standared time.is it on radio or is it on a link on my pc. please help. thanks great article again as usal jan and simon. justice for caylee.
Gannieto4 if you look at the bottom of Simon’s article above where it says:
If you missed the live broadcast you can catch it here.
Click on the word “here” and it will take you directly to the recorded version of the show
Thanks for listening everyone and a special thanks to all those that called in. We appreciate all the callers helping to carry the discussion on. And thanks to Pickles for once again joining us for the whole show.
We hope you all have a great night
Jan and Simon Barrett
sorry gina I didn’t see your question when I was typing the previous one. Also thanks mytwocents for the help, I am slow LOL
Gina the show was at 3 pm central time and it is online on Blog Talk radio. But you can still listen to the recorded version if you click on it above. Next week it should be held at 3 pm CST again if we have another one as usual
Jan Barrett
This is the first time I saw this blog - I am soooo computer illiterate - I posted on a different link & it gave my given name,
I ended up emailing this link to myself - fun show today!
thanks jan, mytwocents thank you too. i didnt see where you ansered the other post as to where to look im very slow myself. lol my computer skills are yet to be desired. lol i have such a hard time keeping up with everyone on here if i post.i know last time i was here i had to go thru a bunch of rigamroll to get back so i can see what others were posting.i dont have a refresh button.so i try to keep up with everyone best as i can. hello pickles!! how are you.
Hey Gina…dang Gina..!! I love that line.
Nahh Gina how are you?
which line is that pickles lolol im so dang goggly tonight not much sleep this weekend. lolhello everyone!!!
Dang Gina…I like to say that “Dang Gina”
Get some sleep silly head…drink some water it will wake you up a bit.
Hey everyone! Just watching the golden globes and doing some re-arranging the house today, i wore myself out all day..
loved being on the show again…
I did find it easier today with the links to the show.
Look forward to next weeks show..
I will be on/off, its time now to organize toys… blah… a big job!
Hey miss pickles, I am drinking cofeee. my girl passed out at 7 i think she’ll sleep till morning, but I don’t know…lol
enjoyed the show today as always…
hoping this week brings some closure for caylee and the service finally happens??
Yah she’ll sleep till morning as long as you are quiet enough..
shhh..were hunting wabbits.
The show was great…I like talking to everyone..yah’ll are silly..I am totally entertaining the whole Kronks supervisor being there neighbor thing…
lol yah or be up at 5 am.. most likely.. she was all bent out of shape today cause mom had alot of chores and doing stuff around the house, she doesnt like that attnetion off for a sec
so she went to bed and said heck with mama
lol
we’re still trying to find places for all the xmas stuff…
I am hoping something new happens tomorrow with this case…. the service i hope
lol me too i didnt know that! so i am ultra more suspicious pickles… i mean this guy kronk may be a wonderful man for all i know, I just think this is no coincidence on him finding the body 5 months later no way ain’t buying it…
Oh hey IF Kronk is not a good guy and not on the up and up..I will personally wash your feet with my toothbrush…!!
you got a deal LMAO i mean come on what are the odds of this same man finding the body, ? I think its soooooooo suspicious, but i now believe this supervisor took like a glass lol or some hearing device and listened over at the neighbors, and then dropped the news to kronk…
looks like ng was doing a rerun on the case this weekend. i stayed up late to watch. which is why no sleep over the weekend lol. any new news?they seem to be consetrated on jail visits. she has told so many lies it would take weeks to staighten it all out. so sad, meanwhile little caylee sits in a cardboard box and cannot be laid to rest properly.isnt there anything somebody can do to stop the stupid defenese from draging this out so this little angel can be at rest. i just want to cry.
do you believe today i moved my couch ( extremely heavy) to another area in the room, had a neighbor help me, and now that i did this, i truly hate it this way and plan tomorrow to move it back? yep thats me… do these things and then regret them. like when this case started i took my desk and computer and moved it inot the living room to be able to hear NG and type too…lol lol
and have regretted that move also
SO then dont listen to yourself when you think you want to do move something..just leave it..add something to it to spruce it up..a picture a plant…whatever your girl wont mess with
lol i know it, I’m getting a new couch soon so i don’t know why the heck i tried to do this today, only to now be in an awkward neck position to see the television
lol
such a mess… i get these wild ideas and should stop myself.. like that time i wore the dressy top with the ugly sweatpants
anyways i am too tird now to finish..i am off tomorrow tho..
girl needs to go get a shot in the morn tho…
she ain’t gonna like that…
i was just over at the other blog reading what i missed…
where is C-A? liver… love2bgran where u peeps?? paging paging all u peeps…
XOXOXOXO we are on another blog..C~A is there and SHeller
bloggernews.net/119370#comment-894417
oh i feel so stupid now talking to myself about relatively nothing
I am on both because you are here…cant leave a man behind jah…
pickles i cant acess the link. im trying to follow the rabbit.this stupid pc uuughhhh.
xoxoxo, i hear ya i get that way myself sometimes.i get a wild hair and next thing ya know im off and running trying to do this and that and all i get is a mess worse than i started with lololol. i guess i just like doing things in a backwards sort of way lolol
oxoxoxox your not talking to yerself i was listning
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/
This is a bizarre report that claims “Zenaida Gonzales” is a code for the location where dead Caylee was dumped. Zenaida and Gonzales are the individuals who live in the land plots adjacent to the location where the skeletal remains were found of Caylee Anthony, the article states. Weird, huh?
hi gina i am bouncing from old blog to this one lol
i know it! i am sooo regretting this couch move, i can’t even see the tv now its all sideways… i initially wanted to clean underneath it, I found crayons, pop tart crumbs, books, lighters…lol, then though hmmm maybe we need a change NOT LOL
its going back tomorrow, too pooped to try tonight… and i am soon getting a new one so again why bother? LOL
Hello folks, happy Sunday, what a week!
Sup ya’ll….
Put this evil ‘Two what’ in general population and let the hoe bag fend that off.
Just got back from visiting my little jail bird…lots of chicks doing time for petty things who have lost children to protective services that would love to get five minutes with this little beeeyotch.
I am feeling a bit of hate for the family for being stupid, but I thing evil M led them on. I don’t think they have any blame in the whole BS other than being stupid to a manipulative piece of crap they loved. Guilty of that myself but since law enforcement now seems to be pointing the arrow at one pot of blame I can say I believe that and feel a bit sorry for the ants. time to make a funeral, time to go for the DP.
just finished watching the jail house conversation vido tapes George & Cindy talking with casey ….
We11!! as a mother I knew when my kids were lieing , even though I would confront them & say your Lieing!! they would deny it,we can sense or the eyes sometime tell, but she was so clever another devil would believe her ,
I couldn’t help but watch george sitting there, listing to all this crap , that scum bag of a daughter was saying , , heaven knows what he was thinking , But he didn’t seem Impressed , I think he knew all along she was lieing,
first of all this story about the nanny blah blah , cindy & george had no questons about how this nanny treated Caylee , Because they knew there was NO nanny, was she good to her? did she show any affection towards her ? these tapes were recorded after cindy reported the child missing , we dont know what took place or was said in the anthony home ,, before the police arrested casey ,
She just rambled on & on lie after lie after lie . in the mean time she knew where little caylees body was ,
If she is found guilty and the parents continue to blame others … they are as wacky as her ,yep guess your all right they all belong together I’m so sick of this crap,,,
I know they are saying this is a high profile case … but there are so many other missing children , Lock that thing up & destroy the key… Caylee deserves a proper burial may she rest in peace ..
I agree nanna…everyone knows when someone is lying. The closer you are and the closer you know. The question comes down to with people like this evil bitch….lying about what?
I found a crack flake in my car two days ago…mother of my child hasn’t been in that car in weeks…only person it could have come from. Who what where??? Fuck it just get it out of there.
Think the ants are in much the same sort of situation and then some…they know…oh how they know…but sometimes it is easier to believe the shit dont happen even when it is right in front of your face.
This is awful and evil. Talked to my bud in a minimum security state prison on a possession charge about this today who has lost children to protective services. Put evil bitch number one in GP and she is dead. Even low level charged crackheads on a county level states away loathe her ass. She ain’t got no place safe.
Hi all! Am in Nebraska for fam. emergency. This f-ing hospital has no wireless so can’t contact family at home. Grrr
No new news today? I’ve been on airplanes.
hi! goldie why are we on this post other people are chatting on another usually they are in here ?
Prolly nothing new Gran…weekend. Really truly hoping to hear charges have gone to murder one tomorrow (highly likely) and maybe a death penalty. Just watching. Like you.
the other one is bnn segment sunday jan 11 …
whats a crack flake in your car goldie ?
Crack rocks flake off Nanna…like a chip off a toenail or dried blistered skin if you can imagine. Looks like a big flake of skin. Crackheads would know what it was…me too from dealing with them. Sadly (and luckily) so would a cop if I happened to just randomly get stopped. No more crack flakes.
Anyway I didn’t have much I wanted to say about all this because it was all too close to home.
I hope this deadly evil c-want gets higher charges. She ain’t shat and she has wasted enough of the peoples / states time. Know women in bad situations and dealing with addictions and such that have handled children better. Bitch deserves nothing less than death.
Sooner or later the Anthonys must face the fact that they are victims and not champions. They cannot stand up in court for both Caylee and Casey at the same time.
I doubt they will come to their senses anytime soon. The way they’re banning Leonard Padilla from Caylee’s memorial service tells me they’re lapsing back into bad-mouthing good people again, like they bad-mouthed Jesse Grund.
Their next target? Orange County — for not doing their job in the investigation. Cindy Anthony will love her new role as a self-appointed spokesperson for the defense.
Bozo needs to be investigated..IMO he was and is “pokin” that ugly baitch Casey…he should be removed from the defence!
HURRY UP AND BURY CAYLEE!…still having dreams of HUGE cardboard boxes filled with bugs…sri Baez…you and your dream team are TRUE SCUM!
Just some thoughts regarding the tape shown tonight on Geraldo.
The taping done by the two PI’s in this location took place on two separate days, Nov.15th & 16th. One is 12 mins and the other 15 mins. Tape shown on Geraldo was the 11/15 search date and no mention of the 16th taping that I saw. So there must be TWO tapes in existence. I believe Brad Conway is very disingenious when he said this tape belongs to the Ants and they so graciously provided it to be shown tonight on the show without compensation. Yet they also claim Hoover tried to sell the tape. So how did they get it? I doubt very seriously THEY bought it from him just to provide to the Geraldo show! Hence - the two tape theory, 15th & 16th yet Geraldo mentions nothing about the 16th taping. (Hoover claims he is still in possession of a tape also). Conway also stated that the Ants hired D.Casey in Oct. to search for a “live or deceased” Caylee, yet, they were outraged when Tim Miller (and anyone else) came to search for a deceased Caylee. Conway is slick, covering their tracks and slowly but surely trying to repair their reputations (he has an uphill battle).
Also, earlier in the day Sat. Geraldo said on TV that Roy Kronk had once been charged with Rape and tune in for details on his show. Then during show, he stated charges were “kidnapping” but never mentioned the word rape. I emailed Geraldo (the show) and they responded today with this statement: “Earlier Geraldo made a mistake to say it was rape, he meant kidnapping, the reporter came on after and apologized for his mistake”. Seems I missed the reporter’s correction…did anyone else see it? This was nothing more than underhanded tactic to draw an audience and Geraldo sensationalizing AGAIN. Does anyone remember the boggus show he did on the vaults? He is on a campaign for Baez to WIN even though he has publicly stated he thinks Casey is guilty. So smearing Roy Kronk was the first on Geraldo’s radar at the behest of Baez, I’m sure because that is their best argument for reasonable doubt at this time. One can only guess what team Baez/Geraldo have up their sleeve for next week’s show.
I forgot to mention that the tape Geraldo aired, was not the tape that shows D. Casey digging with a garden shovel during what Brad Conway tonight referred to as a “random” search. Yet that’s the only location he ever searched with a probe & shovel and he went there supposedly on four different days - two days with Hoover and two additional days AFTER the 15th/16th on his own. How can this be defined as “random”? My guess is he had inside info from the killer herself via Lee. Roy Kronk in my opinion was a gift from God via Caylee while C&G were on their California lying tour that came to an abrupt halt on Dec 11th.
Conway says the Anthony’s took some time out Thursday to watch coverage of the motions hearing when they heard Casey was going to be in the courtroom. It was the first glimpse the Anthony’s had of their daughter Casey since her last arrest in October.
“They were glad they got to see her,” said Conway.
Conway said George and Cindy are concerned about Casey,
“They’re worried about her,” Conway said. “They love her and they stand behind her and want to know the truth. She looked okay to them…as well as she could look.”
Conway was in the hearing yesterday. He also attended a hearing earlier in the day to keep an eye on the civil case Zenaida Fernandez Gonzalez has filed against Casey.
Gonzalez attorneys said Thursday they are getting ready to file paperwork to depose George and Cindy Anthony. Conway said he’s not worried.
“I’m going to be dealing with that in front of the court,” Conway said. “I will be filing paperwork with Judge Rodriguez next week
I forgot that (haha silly me) C&G have been blasting Zanny the nanny from the top of the hills too. Doesn’t surprise me that Zenaida’s attorney is going after them too.
Oh boohoo we worried about M….sick!
LawyersMom: ” My guess is he had inside info from the killer herself via Lee. Roy Kronk in my opinion was a gift from God via Caylee while C&G were on their California lying tour that came to an abrupt halt on Dec 11th.”
Amen.
hi all, verry strange about the houses near where caylee was dropped belonging to someone with the name gonzales and the other zenida..coincidence or not everything about this case is strange..if m’s friend knew about the gonzales that lived in the neighborhood whos to say m didnt know her neighbor had the first name zenida….i just hope m get a good long sentance for what she has done and the way she lied about everything and caused so much hurt and frustration for e1!
M is a very devious turd
Dear all
I do not listen to your radio show but, I, like the rest of the world it seems, am just so aggravated to think that Casey stands even a remote chance of getting off. How could that possibly be? EVERYBODY knows that she is as guilty as sin and that there must be something going on between her and her defence lawyer - by the way, I think any defence lawyer representing a CHILD KILLER is as bad as the killer - surely well-known people like Dr Henry Lee must draw the line somewhere? Or are they that greedy for money and fame?
Morning peeps!
On Saturday I watched the ‘uncut’ jail calls / visits show on NG (re-run) and it was just surreal seeming to me considering all we know now and all. NG is sensationalist and sometimes a bit over the top but in general I like her show most the time. However that re-run of the show was just very out of sync with the current scope of the situation and in fact just seemed to be in very poor taste. Bad call on them not to yank that re-run IMO. What ya’ll think?
Anybody else find thinking about and watching the jail visits thing extra disturbing now?
SUZANNE there is always a chance that a technicality will come up (what babykillr’s scumbags are grasping for) or that just ONE SINGLE PERSON on a jury has enough doubt of her guilt that yes she gets a hung jury.
They can always re-try on a hung jury though.
Just pray that her dirtbag lawyers and ‘experts’ don’t find a loophole. Yes she is guilty as sin and a horribly sick and manipulative person at that. She is very dangerous in an almost cult like way if tou ask me. Manson in a miniskirt.
“Manson in a miniskirt”.
Hilarious!
Please email Nancy Grace with that one! I’d love to hear that on tv…
Lilred said, in January 12th, 2009 at 8:15 am
MORNING PEEPS!!!
Hi, I was just reading posts that I missed yesterday.. I do have one
comment…about who to be angry with. I do definately believe
the anger level at wonder-snatch is emmence. I also have a deep
anger at c&g. The reason is because they have enabled m, for what
seems her entire life. I can not honestly believe that they did NOT
KNOW what kind of a person m was. They were with her alot..
they knew she was a liar and a thief and she was so self=absorbed
that even we, who do not live with her can see. Why couldn’t they
see it?? I believe that c & g put Caylee in harms way… there is
no way they didn’t see the jealousy m felt toward Caylee..
No they are not responsible for m to have killed Caylee, but they
did nothing to stop it either.. IMO. I imagine now they are feeling
insurmountable amount of guilt..
Then to pour salt on a wound, they keep professing her innocence..
I think this entire family is morally responsible for little Caylee death.
Now they need to ‘wake up and smell the coffee’… and do what should have been done so long ago… make this monster take
personal responsibility for her actions..
OK, I am off my soapbox!!!
Anything new going on??
HMMM….
After I posted on wrong blog I moved my post… now realize my answer has absoutely nothing to do with this article or any of the post on it..
DUHHHH…. I can’t seem to get it right today, certainly can tell it is a Monday… I actually lit myself on fire this AM.. I reached over a lit candle to grab something(hurts to get up & down) plus I am lazy.. my sleeve to my robe caught on fire.. YUP ON FIRE.. then it jumped to other sleeve..then to middle of robe…I was putting them out by smacking myself.. .. I jumped out of the chair, took the robe off and stomped on it…. ALL GOOD NOW. If anyone has seen Chevy Chases x-mas vacation when the old man was on fire.. that is exactly what I looked like..scared the hell out of me!!! Robe is okay too.. it is dark blue..and my hubbys. I hope he doesn’t notice the burn smell!
DAMN
Dear Lilred: Goodness setting yourself on fire, you have gone too far. By the way, off the subject I keep thinking about you sleeping in that recliner. Have you looked on Ebay to see if you can find an adjustable bed? I have seen used ones in thrift stores..that would really help your situation.
Saluki… no, I haven’t done that. I think that would be wondeful.. much better than my recliner. I go to the rhuemotologist tomorrow. I am hoping - praying - that he can start me on some meds to relieve this
pain. I am sick and tired of sleeping in a chair!!! Plus now I am scared to death I might catch myself on fire again… geeeez, that was one of the
stupiest things I have ever done!!!! I can laugh now.. but b4?? nooo..
How are your doggies??
Shan @ 8:30 am
What do you want to bet that Conway either asks for immunity for the ants before they are deposed by ZFG’s attorney and/or says they CAN’T be deposed for the same reason that BB used (successfully unfortunately and damn that prissy pissant judge) to get M off the hook for a real deposition?
Morning!!!
Lilred:
I have a very healthy disappointment in Sin & Grinch for being so obtuse about the whole thing but I don’t think they had anything to do with Caylee’s death other than as you said a lifetime of enabling erratic behavior. However I do understand that to a point. I have had many addicts in my life and have had a lifetime of experience in the erratic and criminal behavior that goes on in that. There is a suspension of total disbelief when someone you love commits an act of violence or crime on you and you just want to believe with a hell bent hope that the person you love just really “is not that bad” or without redeeming qualities.
I agree with you it is time for them to wake up and get over this, but understand that it does take time to stop running that game through your head when dealing with someone so unbalanced, believe me I have had my share of manic, deceptive and manipulative personalities in my life but all of them combined times a million wouldn’t add up to this evil monster. I can’t imagine what kind of uphill battle they are having to go through in accepting their bitch-curr offspring for the evil wunder-snatch babykillr she is.
Everyone, check out wftv.com they have the Mr.Casey video of him searching at the crime scene. In my opinion that is definitely not a random search. You see him actually on his cell phone the whole time and you can see he is being directed as to turning left,right and so on.He is also near an abandoned house opening all sorts of black garbage bags that have been thrown there and digging with a shovel and poking in the ground with a metal probe. Amazing, he definitely was not on the phone with his daughter as he is claiming.Check it out.It does not take a body language expert to read his actions!!!
anyone have any thoughts on the spot caylee was dumped? the 2 houses next to it the peoples names were gonzales and the other zenida??
seems the 2 houses that connect with the spot have the same names some think it could have been a code name given to lv by m in jail just another twist huuh?? can be found on scared monkeys site!
Anna!!!!!!!!!
So I just want to be straight with everyone…YOu all know that XOXOXOXO is Pammy right…ok and C~A is Caylee~Angel…right and i am Bump0naPickle…okie dokie
Has anyone changed there names besides us?
Sorry for the interruption.
hi pickles
dont you think thats strange about the 2 houses???
not me still just anna
Saluki was once Salukisighthound…yes
Yes I do…Zanieda and Gonzales..I think she has tied it all to the dump site..but why…she knew where she dumped Caylee why would she need to remember it so well
Therapist wannabe was Monday Morning Therapist
maybee to give lv clues in her little game??? to me thats what shes doing is a game handing out clues…but i could be wrong and it could just be coincidence but they arent common names well gonzales is but not zenida
Yes clues is all I can think of for her to need to tie some old residents to the dump site…seams bizaare…I mean was it all just so lee could find the body and move it…makes them seem real involved to me..more than just nieve covering up of a loved one
hmmm maybee i should come up with a more exciting name?? dont know
anna - When the “legitimate” news reports that people named Zenaida and Gonzales own or live in the houses that border the site where the remains are found then I will think about it.
I just don’t bother thinking about what is very possibly crap that is spreading thru the web like kudzu.
bbiab
Wow the house / name thing is really sick. But then again we have already seen it….I’d call her a whack job bitch but that would be insulting whack job bitches everywhere.
I think that if they lived there….its coicidence
I think zanieda is derived from zanny…and the only reason she came up with the name zanieda is because she told all her friends at the parties Caylee was with zanny the nanny
Actually Zanieda is a very common name in FLorida…
and with the pi snooping around the site i think they all knew something~we still havent heard any story thats gonna make us go ahh yet so far it looks like they are just trying to discredit le??
Of course they knew somethink or else they wouldnt of been there.,
Morning Everyone!
I’m just now able to pop in and say hello, I had THREE blogs to catch up on! Hope my fellow Canadian’s here too?? Or am I too late? Anyway- morning Pickles and Saluki, Lilred…we’re sitting at an amazing -10 degrees in Ontario- I am SOOO over winter!
BURRRRRR…chilly no thanks.
Hey Jan -10 degrees…makes you miss Calgary huh?
didnt know that and i also thought about zanni being short for zanax~ wich im sure she used often so sad to think of what caylee might have gone thru youd think her being 22 the baby would be more fun especially cince her parents helped her, guess parting was more fun!
Hey EmmsMum
OK bbiab
and thank goodness I was catching up, or else I’d have no idea who’s who now- all these name changes……geeez. LOL!
we have a blizzard going on here kid just came home from school early
Pickles said,
in January 12th, 2009 at 11:09 am
I think that if they lived there….its coicidence
I think zanieda is derived from zanny…and the only reason she came up with the name zanieda is because she told all her friends at the parties Caylee was with zanny the nanny
=================
People in the clubs and at parties would get the ‘zanny’ reference…Xanax
I think that LE was in on the xanax ref too and that is why at first they were willing to explore the ‘accidental death’ theory.
Wish to God I knew what they found out that made them so suddenly sa ‘OH HELL NO’ to that.
Evil Wunder Snatch Babykillr
@ anna
I also heard about the scared monkey’s thought about who lives in the property near when Caylee was found.
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/
The pictures and other research seem reasonable to me as well.
Saw the whole video. Christ when are they going to arrest Leevil???? It’s obvious they knew to be looking for SOMETHING
XOXOXO there are these slider things that QVC sells, http://www.qvc.com , not expensive. You slide them under the sofa legs, or even a large Entertainment Center and so EASY to move. I have them. Everybody should have them, really. There are small ones you can permantely attach to legs, but I have bigger ones that I can use for anything. Beats a hernea!!!
God, Gina, BettBett and me … babies on computers! I try to click on Pickeles links… nothing! I do have a Mac tho, most musician’s do. I saved Concerned in TX’s directions,(thank you), and clicked on the date on the left. I guess THIS IS IT?
Even tried typing the link in myself. Nothing.
Need another cup of coffee!!
Does anyone know for sure who these PI’s were actually working for ?
Originally they were working for Baez & M and then at some point left that “paid” position to volunteer their time & services to C & G ??
Does that make any sense ?
Concerned:
I am beginning to think the whole thing makes no sense for a good reaso. Bobo isn’t as foolish as he looks. He’s been trying to sidetrack evidence from the moment the body was found. The more little false starts and avenues that go no where get leaked out, the more confused he can try and make the trial.
Amazing how many ‘illegal’ things a lawyer can get away with in the ‘defense’ of their client. Joe citizen put something like that out there on a major investigation and they would be slapped with filing a false report and / or obstruction of justice.
I was watching NG last night and she was repeating the jailhouse tapes and there is one where George keeps asking her for help and she keeps saying she has helped all she can from inside jail and if only she could get out….that nothing the media says matters to her, just her family and being with them….and then she starts crying…
Now I see it and think about the poor child already dead at this point in a garbage bag in the woods near her home and her sitting there spouting out how all she can think about every day is going home….
She is so disconnected from Caylee, it is actually horrific to watch those clips now and then see her in court discussing the pics and xrays of her little girl’s body with never a tear or a choke up or any emotions whatsoever other than a few smartbutt remarks to the judge and smiles for Jose.
Jessie Grund better be down on his knees everynight thanking someone up there he did not end up married to her.
Spacely said,Jessie Grund better be down on his knees everynight thanking someone up there he did not end up married to her.
AMEN!
ALthough- if they did end up married, you can bet Caylee baby would still be here, for he would have been her built in babysitter and she would have had no reason to do what she did. maybe.
Exactly Emm and the behavior is not all that uncommon. My ex fiance was setting me up for that so she could run the streets and chase her addictions.
Still that crackhead addict would never intentionally hurt her baby (thank God her family took it away from her).
Wunder-C*** has less morals than an addict on the streets. Says a ton about her character and morals (or lack of them)
sorry for the c word. Just can’t find a whole lot of things to say about Miss Baby Murderer that don’t bring up vile language.
Lilred. I always KNEW you were hot stuff!
Glad you are ok and thought FAST!
I wrote another post on the previous place, just as Pickles was sending us here.
Anyhow I was saying Cindy helped mold Casey. Some might well be generic (they don’t know what makes Sociopaths or how to fix them), but she always coddled her, reinforced her law breaking behavior, and **never made her responsible** for ANY OF HER actions. She stole money,lied to cover, BUT ALWAYS CAME OUT THE WINNER! “It’s alright darlin’…” Right C. Or when M told those lies “I trust you.”C said. All that ever did for Casey was to reinforce her illegal behavior, teaching her to go ahead, steal - you will ALWAYS come out AHEAD of the GAME - keeping your precious money. It’s ok to break the laws. NEVER any punishment - no responsiblity. C taught her well. Only thing is, that law breaking behavior escalated to murder - THEN IN steps society, L.E., etc. NOW, hard as C tries to tap dance FAST and “fix it” … **FINALLY**, the moment of truth! The FIDDLER must be paid!
I too happen to watch the reruns of the jailhouse tapes on NG last night and I caught something that I missed before. When G is visiting M by himself, he says something like “Maybe we were all too domineering and didn’t let you be a good mother.”
He admits right there that she wasn’t a good mother but then he goes on to try and cover up that statement by saying over and over what a good mother she is and how everyone, who knows her, agrees that she’s a good mother. Did anyone else happen to catch that Freudian slip?
Good morning,
Why I do not find it unusual that the Ants had their P.I’s look for Caylee, dead or alive. I find it disgusting that the Ants attacked anybody else looking for Caylee’s remains.
Wonder if the Ants used funds from the Caylee fund, set up to find a live Caylee, for these P.Is’. Now, I would call that fraud/misuse of those monies..
I do not think their P.I’s found Caylee though.
Earlier LE reports stating plant grows thru remains pointing to around June 18 dump , makes me believe that the remains were not disturbed/moved..
Kronk, to me, does not look suspicious at all, he just got plain lucky finding Caylee.
OT, I never move my furniture unless it is out off the door or cleaning under it.
Cats really hate if their people alter their home in any way LOL.
Therapist said at 12:20 “Maybe we were all too domineering and didn’t let you be a good mother.”
I caught that too. But I only thought he was having some regrets. It looked to me that her reaction was, “What have I done?”
Spacely, I agree with you that Jessie should thank his lucky stars that he did not end up married to M. I still detect that Jessie wants to believe that M was a different person when he was dating her, which is not true. Sociopaths can con the most intelligent person in to believing they are normal and loving.
What Jessie viewed in the jailhouse tapes is the person Casey has always been. He got to observe her lying at her sociopath best.
It was too little too late
ORLANDO — The meter reader who found the remains of Caylee Anthony in December is set to appear on national television to tell his story.
Roy Kronk is expected to appear on a national morning show Tuesday in his first TV appearance since making a brief statement following his discovery of the remains near the Anthony home.
Kronk has been questioned by investigators, but is not considered to be connected with the case against Caylee’s mother, Casey Anthony, who is charged with her daughter’s murder.
Kronk’s appearance comes as a new video has surfaced showing private investigators hired by the Anthony family searching the same area where the remains were found a month before Kronk made the discovery.
Amen Therapist…been there
Spacely, yes she wanted to go home and HELP to find Caylee like she did before. Playing on her lap top,hangng in her room, cooking dinner, etc. for any youngish males around there, (Paddy’s partner, etc.)
How many of us could even eat, let alone STAND and cook dinners for strangers, if our little girl was missing? Maybe she will look on the golf course like OJ did - for the murderer of Nicole,Ron,and Caylee. C sure opened up a can of worms for the ants when she set out to “use” and get as MUCH MEDIA in their life … as she could!
I did catch the slip of G’s where he says “we did not let you be a good mother”. I also notice that both of them talk throughout the interview in the past tense about Caylee and their relationships, which has always made me suspicious about the level of G’s total involvement.
I think you can see that video in two ways, one as an affirmation between the two that Caylee is long gone and they both know it from before she went to jail, or two that G is digging as hard as he can for info, but has already decided the worst has happened and she did it.
I heard a rumor that she was spending so much time at Jose’s when she was out on bond because G tried to choke her to death - not that I blame him - but wondering if anyone has verified that rumor?
Jesse also said that M broke off their relationship because M said Jesse loved Caylee more than her. To me that shows that M was the same miserable monster mom at that time too. What real mother would have a problem with that, especially since Jesse knew he was not Caylee’s dad.
Spacely,
I never heard that rumor
Tori,
To be truthful, a buddy told me he saw that rumor on NG one night that I did not watch, but it makes so much sense…..
And I do NOT see how Jesse can claim that “she is not the same person” as he knew. Afterall, did she NOT lie even until after Caylee was born, claiming that Jesse was the bio dad. I mean - What has so drastically changed; and how many men out there would continue to stand beside a woman who tried to con him???
That little fellow appears to be very naive. May have been his one and only “girlfriend.” Wonder if he was one of her internet connections.
Spacely,
I never saw anything credible that G was trying to choke M. Only C during the 15th of june fight. Padilla said that G kept his distance from M and walked in a circle around her while Padilla was at their house.
Spacely - Rumor or not it’s hysterical. C chokes her June 15 and M leaves, kills Caylee and G chokes her when she gets home. I’m just sorry that neither one followed thru - especially C. Then Caylee would still be alive and who’d miss M or mind if C was behind bars?
Not me!
Snookers I was in a relationship with an addict much like Jessie and Wunder-Snatch. I loved that child more than life itself.
Eventually the erratic roller coaster ride that goes with addicts caused me to break off the relationship. She still tried to care for the child and I visited the family frequently to spend time with the baby. Eventually her behavior, drug use, and the people who were keeping around her made the situation too dangerous and the family took the baby away.
This is how a normal family would deal with a fringe personality nut job like this Manson In A Miniskirt Baby Killr, but the Ant’s are far from normal. Even they admit that to themselves in jail.
Even if she had married Jesse, it wouldn’t have lasted. Marriage, a kid….way too confining for m. She wanted to party.
Yup Tori!
Flash - maybe Jesse meant that he didn’t know she was the party girl he found out she was when all the photos and dirt came out. Because you’re right, she was lying to him back then. Maybe he didn’t and still doesn’t know how much she lied!
And I do wish he’d stop saying that because I’m afraid that it will give some credence to the defense possibly saying she’s got PPD or some such thing.
I think Jessie is a nice guy and everything, but I also think that he is probably a little bit controlling in a relationship, but does not have a lot of relationship experience and met his match with this one. My bet is he wants to be in charge, found out Caylee was not his, but since M seemed to be into him and following directions at the time, it was all good, insta-family. I don’t think his family was ever impressed with her.
He mentally cannot accept that she was always the jailvid girl because that does not jive with his personally created reality that it was a great relationship or that he was not only jilted, but set up by her and her family.
Again, I think he is a nice guy, just young and nieve and got caught up by a girl way better at playing into his fantasies than he is in distinguishing his fantasies from reality.
C~A is a dork!!
Spacely, I had never heard that G tried to choke M to death while she was out on bond. Where did you hear that? Maybe someone got that story mixed up with C’s argument with M on June 15th. All I remember is Padilla saying that G tiptoed around M the whole time she was out on bail. He would walk a big circle around her in order to avoid any contact with her. But, again… that came from Padilla, God love him. LOL
My belief is that although G had more than a strong suspicion that Caylee was dead he was holding on to a shred of hope for his wife’s sake. You could hear that in his voice… it cracked many times while he spoke to M about Caylee.
I prefer to believe that G loved Caylee way too much to have any involvement with helping M in any way. However, G also has a loving commitment to his wife and will do whatever she says. (That doesn’t mean that their marriage will last down the road because experts say losing a child or grandchild is one of the hardest things to overcome.)
I still feel that C&G acted in a despicable way during the time Caylee was reported “missing” and their last interview with Larry Kind actually made me hate both of them.
It is my opinion that C&G are trying to change the public’s opinion of them for the sake of their daughter. It would help M if future jurors liked the Anthony’s, especially if they intend to continue supporting her innocence.
It’s very difficult to let go when a child is involved Spacely. Especially if you’ve been in the relationship since before the child was even born (which I think was the case with Jessie too).
I still have a hard time not checking up with my ex every month or so even though I know the baby is in a good foster home in another state (far away from her). Not a chance in hell she is going to change or get clean or of us ever patching things up. But there is still that bond there.
Flicks Nose Goblins at Pickles
Good afternoon all!!!
I just saw that website with the Zenaida and the Gonzales. What is even more creepy about it is, she was able to connect a Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales from Sawgrass Apartments as well.
Right back at yah…
PAW69…it is strange…she connected it all to that name..wich I believe revolves around her “Caylee is with Zanny the nanny” remarks to her friends at those parties when they asked about where Caylee was..
She connected it all to one name its strange
PAW link that site please or I shall flick boogies at you as well…
MyTwo - That is the way I feel about it. Again, and I am not deliberately being overly critical, but “wunder” is NO beauty. She looks whacked out, like she probably never had any real personality. Maybe I do not see it from a male’s perspective, but I see nothing more than a homely young woman who looks much older than her actual age. No expression, etc. As far as “talent,” maybe that was the secret to her popularity.
But that little guy needs to quit the whining and grow up. She’s evil through and through, and used him like any other “so-called” friend, i.e. Amy, along with all the rest.
His comments only make him seem shallow.
Maybe thats the only way she could reference it in her own mind to remember it all so well…all with that name.
Flash …thats how she looks to me…whacked out..no real personality always mimicking others to have a real character of her own…she is a homely young woman who DOES look way older than she is…I have always thought she looked way older..even her pics when she was young she looked old for her age.
Concerned & Quiet at 11:31 am - I don’t see that your question was answered (I apologize if I missed it). Anyway, Dominic Casey originally worked for BB and M. But Hoover supposedly just knocked on the ants door one day and offered to help with the protesters that were at the house at the time. The ants accepted and I guess he’s been “working” for them ever since. Now, for some reason, Dominic Casey is working for the ants (instead of BB or in addition to BB I wonder? Who knows?)
I guess thats what happens to you when well jooh know…there are pre-school toys around so I cant say
From ISSUES with Jan Velez-Mitchell January 9th,2009. http://www.primewriter.com/blog/?p=787
FRANCO: Sure. You`re absolutely right. I got to tell you, whenever Casey was at home for that first bond that the California bounty hunter celebrity Leonard Padilla got her out of, she didn`t stay home very often. She was actually at her attorney`s office most of the time.
And it`s funny because when I spoke to Padilla, I got one perspective. When I spoke at Tim Miller (ph) at Equusearch, I said, what`s going on here? He said, well, basically, George went to the room and almost choked her. And she goes to her attorney`s office for some kind of, like, just some kind of like emotional soothing, some kind of, you know, something from Baez.
I suppose that he`s giving her — this is coming from the mouths of the people that were in the room with this girl, in the house, very close with her. We do know that Leonard Padilla had one of his .
Here Goldie
Lulu (the original) said,
in January 11th, 2009 at 9:06 pm
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/
I think they are all working for leevil assisting in his investigation
Hey Mytwocents….yah..you got it.?
About the rumor about G choking M when she was out on bail and that being the reason that BB had her at his office for 6 hours a day.
Maybe. I think it’s far more likely that BB wanted to keep her away from C and G yammering at her and pestering her with questions (and M getting herself into more trouble with more lies) and away from a place that was being visited by who knows who (who could see and hear M). If C and/or G choked her, threw soup cans at her, attempted to torture her the sad fact is they failed - to either kill her or get the truth out of her. And the one thing BB did NOT want - was the truth out of her.
So that’s the biggest reason I think.
Later, taking hubby to the Dr.
Pickles - Even if we all did truly like her, I simply do not see the appeal. Whenever it was first announced, 22 yrs old, I’m like how in the heckfire did she become SO weatherbeaten at such a young age?!? - And I still say: Caylee looked nothing like her.
Cindy has a mule face. George looks somewhat better than her, but he looks ultimately sneaky. Have never seen him look directly at the camera. Always speaks as if he’s talking to an invisible person in the background.
I have to wonder, with all the choking going on, If that’s why everyone agreed that the safest place for Casey is in jail.
Flash,
Mule Face LOL
Flash - PLANET OF THE APES!!!! That’s all I’ve got to say about all four of the ants’ looks.
No costumes needed!!!! And it’s one thing not to be fully evolved physically but now I think they haven’t fully evolved mentally or emotionally either! I think they call this “throw-backs!” A great term for which both meanings are appropriate!!! LOL!
Maybe this was mentioned before, but I read that Kronk had been a bail bondsman and a bounty hunter before coming to FL
One thing I know for sure is that M saying that Caylee called her on July 15th will make the ax come down on her! That was one of her MANY fatal mistakes. Even the guillotine would be too good for her IMO.
With all the physical violence (choking, etc) kind of makes you wonder how much Caylee had been physically abused prior to demise.
People like that should NOT have kids. Enforce involuntary sterilization on all lunatics *(after first proven abuse incident).
Therapist,
That me me sick when m said Caylee said Hi Mommy
Pickles! Present and accounted for and did my homework. No Board of Education for me today!
I get a gold star today (so far) !!!
“The Hills Have Eyes!”
Flash, Mount Rushmore has quite a few eyes lol.
Flash - I’m with you on the 1:20 post. Makes me sick to see abused children constantly sent back to their parents by the courts. If I was Queen for a Day just one bad incident and those parents would never see those children again and would never be able to have any more children and, like sex offenders, they’d be on a list to be kept away from children. But, no.
Courts think children are better off with parents who beat and burn them! GEEEEEEESH!Tee parents supposedly “will learn/will change.” My a$$. And what does that tell a child about how society feels about them?
Good afternoon to the BBN/Caylee Anthony cyber family.
I’ve been reading this blog for a while and wanting to comment, but knowing my husband would kill me if he ever found out. So - it will be our secret … and I will try to post here when I can.
Some background on me - I was a witness for the prosecution in a very high profile case that received International coverage. It was not an experience I would want to repeat - but I am also not sorry that I gave my testimony and did what I believe was the “right thing”.
That being said - there are several thoughts I would like to toss out there.
First of all, if I was the OCSO, I would probably be pushing to charge C, G and Leevil with obstruction and anything else I could think of - especially based on the new PI tapes that came out.
The reason for that is because you never can predict what C, G and Leevil will do.
In the case I testified for … one of the prosecution’s “star” witnesses totally recanted their testimony on the stand in front of the jury … and basically mucked things up so much that the testimony, which could have been of great value, ended up being worthless to the case.
Everything C, G and Leevil have done so far point to the fact that they care more about protecting their lying daughter than their deceased granddaughter - and when I think of that it breaks my heart.
Also, in case any of you are wondering. A witness for the prosecution does not have to talk to anyone from the defense team (investigators, experts, etc.) before the trial. I was hounded by defense investigators, etc for months before the case I testified in went to trial, but I never returned a single call or had contact with them.
There is so much I could tell you all about how reporters acted, about why witnesses should get lawyers, about how the media hounds you and makes up lies just to try and get you to respond - it is truly amazing what goes on behind the scenes and sometimes I think I should write a book about how crazy it all is.
I am now far out of the spotlight and quietly teaching as an adjunct professor at a major university. My husband doesn’t ever want me to revist that time in my life, and he actually cringes when he sees me following this case. But I can’t help praying that Caylee will receive justice … and hoping that the prosecution makes the right calls and puts the defense in a tight little box they can’t get out of.
I think Caylee is blessed in having a world full of people such as yourselves, who are keeping their eyes and their focus on bringing her justice.
… But a chunk of rock has more sense!!! …
Therapist - I’m hoping that it can be totally proven that M never got a call that day otherwise BB will say it was a hoax by the cruel kidnapper. I don’t mean to be negative but I am constantly worried about how M’s scream team will wriggle her out of this.
There is a lot they can do to throw doubt on everything.
MyTwo - The law, IMHO, is often unfair. I am female but I wholeheartedly believe that in many divorce cases, the kids are better off with the dad. Too often (and of course, not in all situations) kids are brainwashed and taught to hate the non-custodial parent, and then some of these women constantly pound into the kids’ heads that their “dad wants nothing to do” with them. And NOTE, (some) but certainly (not) all.
… Which brings to mind the case sometime ago about the foster “parents” in Ohio who kept all the kids caged in wire animal cages. They claimed this “had to be done for the children’s safety.”
There are a HELL OF A LOT of crasey’s in this old world!!!
Tori - We did hear about Kronk’s previous profession and some of us think that may be why he was looking and kept on looking. And didn’t give up.
mytwocents,
I agree
Tori, you’re right, M saying that Caylee said “Hi Mommy” in that upbeat voice makes me sick when we knew all along, and so did the investigators interviewing her, that she murdered her poor defenseless daughter with no regrets.
I don’t see any way that this ugly, self-centered monster will get away from paying for this most horrible crime.
Flash, I agree. And “crasey” is a good name for them! Damn them all to he$$.
People are putting money into this evil bitches commissary??!!????
Well, I am glad Kronk was tenacious in his search for Caylee. Hope he does get a chunk of nice change for his upcoming interview. Bet the Ants will hate that but nothing they can do about that..
I believe that Kronk’s attorney said, his dead wife’s cancer treatments really left him hurting for money.
yes Goldie. They have been.
LOL, probably other sociopaths putting money in M’s account.
mytwocents said,
in January 12th, 2009 at 10:41 am
Shan @ 8:30 am
What do you want to bet that Conway either asks for immunity for the ants before they are deposed by ZFG’s attorney and/or says they CAN’T be deposed for the same reason that BB used (successfully unfortunately and damn that prissy pissant judge) to get M off the hook for a real deposition
Oh yeah that is why he was there with Bozo for the court hearing against M in the zenaida case.
I would like to know WHO is putting money in. No one can be that dumb.
Bobo calling in some favors with friends across the country to make it look like SOME PEOPLE still believe in her innocence???
Plus another “rumor” that the Ants 7 figure deal with Lifetime can only be completed if the Ants get immunity.
Goldy you would be surprised at the people who still believe her innocence and what they will do or say.
Hey Fishman….lots of ppl give her money
Mule face!!!!!!!!
Told ya Pickles lots of guys find the skank look hot…how the hell do you explain the success of Hooters? Sure the hell isn’t their nasty wings…it’s the nasty gurls.
Mytwocents, you are absolutely right and I tend to be a worrywart too so I know exactly what you mean. I hate to be too overconfident because when I do that it seems to come back and bite me in the behind every time. So today I may be high on being positive but tomorrow I may be biting my nails wondering if M could really be acquitted.
There is a lot of evidence that the defense has to put a spin on in order to create reasonable doubt, thereby tipping the scale of justice to their side. But, I too am a realist and I saw that happen in the OJ case. So I’m prepared for the worst but hope for the best. I’m hoping that the verdict comes back GUILTY without a doubt! That way we see justice for Caylee!
I’m a little behind in reading blog comments from earlier today so l’m going back and forth between reading and writing… but I did notice one from a “mediawatcher” that I’m going back to read right now.
Ew speaking of guys thinking M is hawt .. I accidently stumbled while looking for update news on this story once awhile ago and guys on this one message board were “She is murderer but I would still do her”.
GROSS!
Me and my bud have a word for it Shan, it’s skeel…short for skank appeal.
So now G n C have both choked Casey, at least according to reports from hopefully truthful sources. What about Lee? Is he the only non-choker in the family? More of a hitter?
Leevil is a sister hitter…in more ways than one…
Mediawatcher, thank you for your courage in testifying. Glad you survived it all. Glad you are here now too. Was your case as INSANE as this one is becoming?
I do think Baez will do everything he possibly can to drag it out,and to pad his hours. I think he did it pro bono, but will sell interviews, the bones or photos, anything he can, to get his money. Do any of us here REALLY think those photos of Caylee’s remains - won’t get “out”? They are safe?? Probably in Jan. or Feb.
Just dropped in to check here… very busy today.
We are not sure what M’s profession really was. Anyone messing with her is liable to pick up multiple diseases. NEXT??? Anybody? BBL
Mediawatcher thanks for your most interesting and inspiring post.
Please join us whenever you get the chance because we would enjoy hearing more about your thoughts on this case as well as your past court experience. That would help us to prepare for the highs and lows of the trial where I’m sure we will be going through many emotional days.
I do believe that writing a book would be a great release for you as well as to make public all the valuable information that you hold inside. A book that prepares others for something that you have already experienced. For example I never realized that a witness for the prosecution does not have to talk to anyone from the defense team. I already learn something from you of great worth.
If I remember correctly, what you said about “one of the prosecution’s “star” witnesses totally recanted their testimony on the stand in front of the jury … and basically mucked things up so much that the testimony, which could have been of great value, ended up being worthless to the case.” also happen in the Michael Jackson case as well. Debbie Rowe, the mother of two of Michael’s children pulled a similar stunt on the witness stand.
Let’s hope that your prayers come true and Caylee receives the justice she so deserves.
I will be looking forward to your next post!
Betty she was a ‘party girl’ and girls like her don’t need money to play. Guys who like the nasty ones pay her tab hoping they’ll be the one tapping that when she’s done partying.
Betty1 and Therapist - Thank you for the warm welcome.
Yes, the case I testified in was just as “insane” as this case from beginning to end.
In the case I was involved in, I strongly recommended that law enforcement gather evidence on the others surrounding the defendant and charge them individually, so that there would/could be a domino effect (hopefully) with the additional testimony.
I understand that every one is entitled to their own opinion, but I don’t think C, G & Leevil should be given a pass because the prosecutors office is “hoping” for “favorable” testimony from them.
I am a strong believer that past actions can predict future behavior - and based on the actions of C, G and Leevil - they care more about protecting themselves and “m” than bringing justice to Caylee.
Also, another thought. If Caylee was your granddaughter wouldn’t you have wanted to met with Kronk to thank him for finding her remains?
If it was me, I would have wanted to know all the details - I would have been at the scene the second it was cleared - I would have blessed each person who brought something to add to her memorial.
I have a hard time with people in the media that continue to portray them as “only the grieving grandparents”. I’m sure they are grieving - but the question is, for what?
Fishman..the skank look hot….skankie gurls are hot…yack.
Welcome to BloggerNews Mediawatcher
I don’t like gurls with skeel Pickles. I like clever and smart ass women. Looks very rarely come into play.
Thank you, Pickles
The new video that is going around really should be putting a lot more heat on the ant’s and their PI’s for obstruction of justice. Wonder why they haven’t gone after them for it yet?
I don’t think the scared monkeys stuff is coincidence either. KC is one evil murdering little mind f*cker of a bitch.
What was scaredmonkeys about the Zanieda-Gonzales tenants at those houses where the body was dumped
She made this whole thing revolve around that name…that was her sole purpose after she killed Caylee…I think it has to do with her references to Zanny the nanny…
Dear mediawatcher..My thoughts exactly on the Ants. If it was my Grandaughter,I would have thanked everyone involved in finding Caylee,including Padilla and would not be holding 2 funerals but one where everyone could participate. These types of moves might have done something to rehabilitate their image and perhaps people might have had some compassion for them. However i do feel that they are complicit in hiding evidence and thus misleading the police and wasting taxpayer money. They are obviously not that concerned with Maggot, otherwise videotapes or not at the jail, they would visit her there. This behavior to me speaks volumes on their knowledge of their daughter being the criminal.
Jah jah jah Pickles
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/
(flicks a nice juicy one at Pickles)
Seriously she screwed herself at those parties where she stated Caylee was with Zanny the nanny…really…she had to cover her a$$ for those remarks…wether Caylee was locked drugged out in the trunk and Zanny the nanny was really Xani for xanax….she screwed herself in regards to those times she said that…and she ultimately had to use that zanieda as her cover up
Saluki - Amen to that!
All of those things you mentioned, plus the new tapes that have been released, should be used to charge C, G and Leevil.
Or - if they do give them immunity, then Law Enforcement should definitely videotape any conversations they have pursuant to that end, so when/if they testify at m’s trial and they start to change their story, the videotapes can be entered into evidence.
These people lie, lie, lie! Does anyone really believe if they swear to tell the truth it will be the real truth? Or just the C, G and Leevil version of the truth?
Thanks mediawatcher,very insightfull.
Screw the immunity. I used to say ‘eeehh maybe if it will get some truth’ but after watching the PI’s video, hell no. Someone in that family knew where the body was at least a month before it was found.
Goldie, you wanna hear the sad part about it all…..No one is required to call LE or anyone for that matter if they find a dead body or bones ect. You have the right to walk away from it and not say a word, and you can’t get in trouble for it.
We can all thank our lucky stars that Kronk would not let this go and he found Caylee. He should be praised for finding Caylee, NOT Condemned for it.
That is true Paw, however I think if the ants were to have walked away from the body or disposed of it in some way after finding it…trouble would have been their name for all to see!
However if they could use the foliage to pinpoint the exact spot he’s poking that damned stick and even one shred of bone can be tagged to that location, you got tampering with evidence and abuse of a corpse.
Can’t wait until they tap that phone call.
I was for the immunity at first so they would tell the truth but eff it! I think they should be hung by the damning evidence I am sure LE has on them.
leevil knew where it was …she told him..in her little code talk or whatever it was she told him
PAW69 - you are right about that.
But, consider this. Several people have mentioned that the tape shows the PI tossing things, including a blanket, out of the way.
If the blanket did belong to Caylee, couldn’t that be construed as tampering with evidence?
I dont think any of them deserve immunity…at all…maybe thats why LE hasnt bit at that bait yet from there attorney..maybe it will be a dominoe effect with these lops.
IF the blankey can be tied to Caylee and her murder then yes that is for sure tampering with evidence wether intentional or not
I am inclined to agree Pickles. It was her code and her game. I just don’t think he figured it out without a few more letters and hints we don’t know about. Leevil doesn’t strike me as the brightest turnip in the patch ya know?
Abuse of a corpse…love it..
Everytime yew say that…abuse of a corpse..makes me think baaad things.
I think leevil is a donk…and it took him that long to figure it out..hes a moron
http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/2009/01/12/Chilling-new-video-in-Caylee/1231786603.html
Okay after watching the video I am so DEF sure that Leevil was the one on the other end of that phone or someone from the defense.
You know they can pull up phone records and match them up with the time stamp on that video..
Wow are their eggs cooked!
Mediawatcher, Very insightful points. Because of the scattering of the remains if they can prove he was talking to one of the ant’s then I think that it would be enough to get tampering with evidence / a crime scene AND obstruction of justice.
Until we find out who that PI was talking to while being there, We can only assume once again. We would need more info to make sure. This is going to get worse before it get’s better. All in All, It will still convict Casey. I just don’t know yet how they are going to pin at least Lee in all of this. I still don’t know how they will get C&G if they do, other than the obvious. It would come down to the fact that they would have to prove C&G knew Caylee was dead before they cleaned the car out ect. Just saying that it smelled like death doesn’t prove they knew. I hope this makes sense.
I think LE is waiting on this funeral to take place so Caylee can be resting before they are gonna go on a witch hunt after the apes i mean the Anthonys
I have not seen anything on LV wanting immunity.
Just the Ants,wonder why.
As to the Ants not visiting M in jail. I would not be surprised if M would refuse any visits from her parents or LV. She cares as much for her parents as she did for Caylee. Zilch. Besides , she would have nothing to gain from those visits. Bozo might have advised her not to receive any visits that will become public later on. She cannot change her spots in her conversations. The released videos of earlier visits only did her harm.
She is only accepting visits that cannot be made public. Attorneys/preacher.
I’ve recently learned that is true PAW69. But since the grandparents hired these men, it would seem to me that George and Cindy would be obligated to reveal that they knew where the remains were. After all, they were looking for their granddaughter! They had everyone running around looking for her. They complained about everyone that was helping and pretended that they wanted her back.
I don’t think they, or their creepy son cared about Caylee at all.
Its all to shady to me….they knew what they were looking for and where they were looking..and the ants are in it
united they stood together they can fall
I was thinking immunity in xchange for helping convict her was ok..but the more I think about it they are criminals who have broken the law during this and need to be punished…
Hi MediaW
I agree - anything that G and C would give up would be totally worthless, when we all know their agendas and their life-long style of LYING!So they shouldn’t give them immunity from LYING,giving false evidence, etc. NOTHING! M obviously got her training in *Lying 101*, at the knee of C. I believe all 3 of them have PhD’s in LYING!
I really can’t quite understand how this case is taking on a “Celebrity status feeling” - like having a DREAM TEAM, protecting M big time, all that coverage,(I guess because M liked photography and fashioned herself one, that we saw more of Caylee than most other missing children), and giving the grandparents a “break” when they should be getting prosecuted for obstructing justice. Does anybody understand this? WHY ARE C and G getting coddled? They should be Co-Defendants, I am starting to think. Who are THEY? NOTHINGS, totally *amoral people*, whose toxic lives finally came to a head, got exposed, and blew up! Implosion!! Inevitable ending! I know they lost a grandchild, but really - who nurtured and raised this next generational amoral MONSTER KILLER Casey? Cindy did! Yes I am ANGRY!
If any of yuo understand what I’m trying to say, can ya please help me out here lol. It’s kind of hard to explain.
I would be happy with a court order to the PI’s requiring that on all their business advertising such as business cards, flyers, office window, vehicles, etc. the following message be displayed:
“I am the moron PI who actually stood on Caylee’s remains, but was too dumb to find her.”
snookers said,
in January 12th, 2009 at 3:22 pm
I have not seen anything on LV wanting immunity.
Just the Ants,wonder why.
As to the Ants not visiting M in jail. I would not be surprised if M would refuse any visits from her parents or LV. She cares as much for her parents as she did for Caylee. Zilch. Besides , she would have nothing to gain from those visits.
Oh yeah they are not a man to have intercourse with so of course their visits are useless lol
Kind of like when she was on the phone with them asking for Tonys number. You can tell how much she loves and appreciates her family right?
I actually don’t think Sin or Grinch care about their daughter at all. I think she has some dirt on them both and Leevil is Caylee’s daddy. We now see how much she loved to play with words.
The baby daddy thing would be enough to embarass them I think.
Speaking of their code talk, there is one part where Leevil asks M something about “are those the pople we were talikng about?” and she says “yes, that would be right on the money”…I have always wondered about that part of their conversation. Could the talk of area codes have been addressess instead?
PAW69…I understand…its all going to boil down to killr killing Caylee and that there really honeslty is nothing to pin on c g or l unless killr implicates them…otherwise they are just nieve gullable ppl who were just hysterical irrational a**es trying to protect there daughter.
If leevil is bebe’d daddy thats a bit more than an embarressment…blehh…
PAW69,
Early in this case, months ago, the Ants were very fast throwing out cards, donated toys for Caylee.
I think at that point , they knew she was dead.
Otherwise, they would have kept that stuff IMO to show to Caylee when found.
I have often thought about Lee being the baby daddy too, but surely he would have turned against his sister by now once he knew she killed her own child……..or maybe not, I don’t understand what motivates anyone in that family.
If Lee did know, then is it safe to say that the only reason he did know is because he and Cindy got together to discuss the code talk and put 2 and 2 together. UGHHH , another thought that I can’t seem to put down in exact words. So they got a PI to investigate the code talk. The PI’s just didn’t expect Kronk to beat them to the punch.
It happens more often den joo think Pickles…fodder for a Springer revival.
Spacely:
No he wouldn’t turn on his sister, that would mark him as pretty much untouchable to any woman with half a brain. Leevil may be a dolt, but his ego is as large as his evil ass sister’s is.
PAW69,
I hope if LE does question them, they ask C what exactly the condition of m’s pants were before she washed them.
Being a nurse and all, wouldn’t she know what dried blood, or bodily fluid stains would look like and/or smell like?
I don’t think they knew what was going to happen or even really understood immediately after the found m what did happen … but from that point forward, imo … that is what the term “accessory after the fact” was created for.
snookers, I don’t know of any donations of toys other than Christmas time after they found the remains ?!?!?!?!
I know what motivates them get a sack full of cash…
Media:
I think the pants stunk of chemicals…not sure what kind of chemicals but I’m not googling ‘chloroform’ up at work…
Goldy_Fishy,
LOL - that’s probably a wise idea!
Cindy stated she washed the pants due to smelling like smoke. But that is something we’ll never know the truth about.
Another thought: there was a lot of hype from the Ant camp a few months ago about their house being bugged or at least not being able to talk freely there. Does anyone think that the real reason Lee left is to conduct investigations with a far lower probability of being recorded?
I don’t think LE would have bugged the house, but I would not put it past the media.
And in this case, I think that Lee sticking with his sis will end up losing him more ladies than of siding against her. Every woman I have spoken to has been outraged over this monster slaying her own child in order to rid herself of responsibility.
I want to thank Pickles for updaing me to todays blog. I was on the last one and sugested maybe one of the PIs would tell if they have any info. on the ants, for $$$$ or immunity.What ya think?
Paws,
Shortly after Caylee was reported missing, the Ants started receiving sympathy cards/stuffed animals etc.
They were reported as being put out with the trash because they smelled of smoke.
I believe the bag lady also reported seeing cards for caylee in the trashbag she snatched from the ants. Suspect they were opened by the Ants,checked for money and then discarded.
Smoke? Hahahahaha
Sin must have a heck of a smeller to be bothered by the reek of smoke over the stench of death permeating the car. She must have carried those pants into the next county to get a good sniff of just the smoky trousers.
Leevil already has a girlfriend…don’t know WHY she is sticking around though. Remember she was taking care of the Ants dogs while they were in California for LK
Spacely,
LMAO … that’s hysterical and too, too true!
Maybe she was sniffing them to get a good scent of that pizza she claims was in the trunk.
Spacely said,
in January 12th, 2009 at 3:37 pm
And in this case, I think that Lee sticking with his sis will end up losing him more ladies than of siding against her. Every woman I have spoken to has been outraged over this monster slaying her own child in order to rid herself of responsibility.
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Nah, in this case he can find plenty of women who are half baked star f*ckers who want to be able to say that they mingled with someone ‘famous’ (BARF)
If they knew his dink was dirty like that I don’t even think a chick wanting a misguided ego trip would touch him.
I think the PI’s will disclose what they know when their PI licenses are ripped away, they face formal charges, and they realize life in the big house ain’t great for people most criminals associate with police and LE.
Mediawatcher, I too believe that past actions can predict future behavior and that’s exactly why credit reports are pulled on people who apply for a loan. All kidding aside, I do not trust C, G and Leevil because nothing, so far, indicates that they have accepted any of the facts and evidence that LE has established.
Nothing shows that they have had a change of heart and want the killer, even if it is their daughter, to be brought to justice.
Nothing implies that they will be truthful with LE on the contrary, it’s apparent that they continue to side with the defense team by allowing them all the time they need to strengthen their daughter’s defense case while Caylee’s remains sits in a cold cardboard box waiting for a proper burial… that to me speaks volumes.
Plus, Mediawatcher, you are absolutely right when you suggested that the Anthony family should have been out there thanking Kronk for finding Caylee’s remains as well as putting closure to any thoughts that they might have had of Caylee being horribly abused. Instead there’s been NOTHING!
Therapist,
I feel bad for Kronk … his life is going to be turned into a living hell until this trial is finished.
Pickles…did Eunice ever call about dem squirrels????
I guess this case has far too much bizarre BS for me to quote on. I’m not taking any sides what so ever. The problem is, there is a lot of stuff that hasn’t even been told yet and probably won’t hear about until the trial. And that’s the biggest problem in the whole situation. We have only heard bits and pieces and that’s all we have to work with.
The squirrels were arrested in an unrelated case of stink-n-run, which they blamed on a bad nut job.
I can just imagine the Ants raising hell with Dom and Hoover because they did not find Caylee, especially if they were told of the close proximity of her body.
I guess those P.I’s might be joining the ranks of Padilla, no invitation to the funeral.
Them pizza eatin suicidal squirrels who couldn’t resist getting in wunder-snatch’s car and up and dying…
Goomba as Paddy may be at least he got smart, smelled a rat, and bailed. I wish the guy had questioned her in jail before he put up the money to get her out. Think the guy thought he was going to put on a tough guy act and crack wunder-snatches egg.
A fool and his money are soon parted…
Ohh shoot I totally spaced on Eunice..for cripes sakes…mang I am slippn..dats fur sur!!
ANYBODY here that lives in FL or nearby, who might try to get into the Trial? The Trial has to be somewhere in FL doesn’t it?
bbl
Yah well he got his flo bak..and now he is more famous then ever…and as long as the ants are around to taunt and teaze so is he…spite…pure spite..said it him self.
We use to have a gal in here from FLorida she even volunteered to search for Caylee…but she aint been in here fur a long time.
PQW69 whatjooh mean takng sides.? regarding this case?
I dunno pickles. I think with everything going on, I’m getting emotional and maybe reading some posts wrong. I just don’t want my posts to sound like I’m trying to take anyone’s sides when I’m not. I’m on Caylee’s side and that’s it.
I am in Florida, but about 3 hours+ away from Orlando.
My bet is the trial will be televised, so your sofa may be the best seat in the house.
Therapist-
Anthony’s = Ingrates
No breeding whatsoever, except the reproductive kind.
Spacely, I’m in Florida, also, about 2 hours away.
I saw a little bit of Geraldos P.I. tape. Did any of you see the whole thing? Any definitive “markings” so we could know it was the same place? I saw lots of trees, brush, ground cover - could have been ANYWHERE! No fence …
NG tonight. I wonder if she has new tapes? A few of us some commericlas … but was that for the old tapes or for today? I will watch …
I wonder where the Trial will be? Change of Venue or didn’t BOZO file in time? OR didn’t he do it properly?I am glad M has him for her attorney!!!
They deserve each other. Water seeks it’s own level…
Have to leave now … take care.
In case someone does not know this the PI video (or the part that’s public now) can be seen on wftv.com
Article: Video Released Of Anthonys’ P.I. Searching Remains Scene
Sunday, January 11, 2009 – updated: 2:01 pm EST January 12, 2009
And this article is from myfoxorlando.com today. Seems like no one trying to help (like Hoover releasing the video of the ants’ PI in those woods) is safe from the ants’ revenge!
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) — New video has surfaced in the Casey Anthony case that shows Cindy and George Anthony’s private investigator in the same wooded area where Caylee’s remains were eventually discovered.
The Anthony’s attorney, Brad Conway, saw the tape for the first time Sunday night and he’s not very happy about it because he says the person who released that video had no right to do so.
The video was shot on November 15, 2008 and shows the Anthony family’s private investigator, Dominick Casey, searching through the wooded area where Caylee’s body was discovered on December 11, 3 1/2 weeks later.
Conway says, a man who worked for Dominick Casey, James Hoover, took that video without their permission and tried selling it to TV stations.
Fox news channel’s Geraldo, obtained the video, but did not pay for it.
Fox was given permission by the Anthony family to air the video free of charge. Conway wants to make sure Hoover doesn’t make any money on this. “It is my video tape, not Mr. Hoovers and our position is, he has taken this tape from us and tried to shop it and tried to profit from a tragedy that he has no right to be involved in.”
Conway says, Dominick Casey was just searching that area, not knowing, that, that’s where caylee’s body would later be located.
Conway plans to go after Hoover’s private investigator license.
That tape on Geraldo looked like a kid was taking it. Was not impressed. Not very focused either. Maybe be a copy of a copy of a copy. The original is hopefully better.
My computer crashed on Jan. 1. It had the XP 2008 virus. Just got it back today. I’ve been reading your posts word for word for 2 hours. Everything about this case stinks to high heaven. Speaking of Heaven, lets pray they get a jury like you all.
Sorry to backtrack - but I needed a laugh and found one. I knew C tried to choke M, but didn’t know there was a rumor about G choking M — and I thought how funny that M was the one looking up neck-breaking … and boy did that backfire — she just about got her own damn neck broke!
Hmm…seems strange to me that there is a video of no body (even though we know botanists will testify it was there much much longer) that is now being broadcast to everyone in the world……
…yet, the Ants (whose family is the only possible benefactors from this video) claim they are not responsible….waaaahhh, it was one of our employees, not us…..
So, once again, everyone is against them and trying to frame their daughter…
And what a load of bs that Geraldo did not pay for it…how many times have we heard that one from this group?
Wow, now Hoover worked for Dom? What a confusing mess. Thought Hoover was another hanger on who worked for free.
I was reading this from NECN.COM. I pasted the following:
* * *
It shows Casey searching and ramming a metal rod into the ground at the crime scene mere feet away from where Caylee’s remains were later found, and at a nearby house, where he also forcefully knifed open black trash bags.
His colleague, private eye Jim Hoover, who shot this tape, would not allow WFTV to record the sound, but a reporter listened to the whole thing and clearly heard Casey say “it would be right here.”
Hoover says it was obvious to him that Casey was getting inside information on his cell phone even though Dominic told WFTV he was talking to his ill daughter at the time.
* * *
Dont know if that is another lie from someone (hope not), but very incriminating hearing Dominic Casey say “it would be right here.”
Okay… I know I’m going to be lambasted for this one… but I’m still having a difficult time believing that M told anyone that she murdered Caylee. She wants everyone to think she is a prima-donna who is guiltless and should only be admired. So, that being said, it makes me believe that M was not sending code messages, as to where Caylee’s body was hidden, during Lee jailhouse visit.
Now, get your tomatoes ready because here comes my theory… Since we assume that there is always some truth attached to M’s lies, I believe that Lee thought so too so he took all his notes and after investigating everything he realized that there was no Zenaida. He then had to deal with the reality that his sister murdered Caylee.
Lee knowing M so well he put M’s half truths together with his notes and that led him to believe that Caylee’s body was most likely close to home. He knew that M’s friend mentioned a secret hideaway in the wooded area near their home and that I believe led him exactly to that area where Caylee’s remains were eventually found. So, I think it was Lee who sent the PI guys out there to search but I’m pretty sure by then he let C & G in on his thoughts. That wooded area is large so I don’t think the PI guys got even near to where Caylee’s body was hidden.
Okay… I’m ducking and I will only pop my head up every hour or so!
I dont think its a lie..
I dont think LE is lying either regarding the plants..I think there is something strange going on regarding this private investigation…and I think leevil has his hand in it
Found it Pickles, left you a message on how to find the current blog on the last one, I get confused when everyone moves on.
The video is very damning whether it shows a body or not. The point is they were right where the body was at and poking around at bags and such. They were being told where to look by someone who had a damned good idea what they might find. Did they call for police assistance? No they walked all over it. What if they had gone about two feet deeper? Would Caylee ever have been ‘found’? It is a very devious and ominous tape in so many ways. With everything else considered, the ant’s are smelling more and more like they were trying to cover up their grandaughter’s murder.
Therapist I agree..I think this has to do with killr saying she doesnt wunt for LE to investigate it she wunts fur leevil to investigate it..thats just whut this is is leevil investigating…they are all part of this…
Hey Mindy!!! It doesnt let us post links so I dont post the http://www. anymore.
***Flings a big honking nose boulder at Pickles***
Yah Mindy lots o drama…blah….
Can anyone explain to me how the video belongs to the Anthonys?
Conway claims that “By virtue of my representation, it is my videotape, not Mr. Hoover’s…” He also states that the family feels betrayed by Hoover!
Do they feel betrayed by Casey? Haven’t heard them state that yet.
Mr Hoover was the person using the recorder. It seems to me that it would be his work product.
When was Hoover officially employed by the Ant’s? When was he finished in the capacity of a PI with them?
And if Conway owns that video, why hadn’t he turned it over to LE?
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I have no clue….its all just more bs from them to take away from the facts that killr killed Caylee and they covered it up…its all just a wild goose chase aimed at gaining there immunity and freedom from there crimes
Yew kno they will go tew any lenghs to gain there immunity…they are probably goin to use this tape as leverage for somthing if they truelly own it
Grammy because they were in the ant’s employ, therefore any findings the PI’s discover belong to the ant’s.
This is the stupidest statement:
Conway says, “Dominick Casey was just searching that area, not knowing, that, that’s where caylee’s body would later be located.”
Grammy,
I don’t know how the Anthony’s can claim ownership of the tape … it opens up a whole can of worms for them.
First - if they are trying to claim ownership under work product … they have to prove they paid Hoover to shoot it. And if they say they did, then they are opening themselves up to questions such as “why did you send him there to videotape, etc.”
Also - where did the money come from for them to pay Hoover with? Out of the Caylee fund?
Second - I think because this area was outside it might fall under public domain … but am not sure of that. If Hoover was taping in their house, then they could claim it was an invasion of privacy, I think.
Last - I don’t think by virtue of the Attorney/Client relationship that Conway can “own” anything that belongs to the Anthony’s like that.
Think about the recent OJ case in Vegas. Ants are opening up themselves big time if they decide to start spinning this latest development that way.
Therapist it is a pretty stoopd statement.
I just say it the short way Media:
The shit just got deeper for the ant’s.
Goldy_Fishy,
LOL
This tape thing is getting more murkier. Maybe the recorder was property of the Ants.
LV being on the other side of Dom’s phone sounds logical MMT.
Baez is also very much staying out of this tape thingy.
The recording of the whole thing might also for the benefit of LV and/or Ants to view later if anything around the crime scene can be identified as belonging to M and/or Caylee.
Who knows certain things could have been removed already.
He refused to release the sound?
What kind of idiot releases a video but not the sound?
What kind of idiot accepts such a release and plays it to the public and claims he did not pay for it? (GERALDO!!!!!!!!)
Mediawatcher, you are absolutely right… I feel bad for Kronk too and he will be lucky if his life ever returns to normal again. The defense is going to drag him through the mud. It’s very sad that it’s allowed to be done in a courtroom for no other reason then to benefit the defense and confuse the jury.
Betty, you hit the nail right on the head with your 4:07 pm post!
Hoover was an unpaid dude as far as i know. How could the Ants claim the tape as their property. You get what your paid for equates to zilch if you did not pay anything.
The whole thing has the flavor of a big attempted cover up in an effort to save M.
Snookers:
Or if it turns out HE WAS being paid it makes the ant’s look very bad. Like they sent him there to look.
The sound will be leaked within a few days…betcha…
Leevil is that you?????
Goldy,
Conway practically already admitted that Dom and Hoover were doing there handiwork per Ants instructions.
So conman owns the tape like bb has rights to Caylee’s remains…seems the lawyers are fairing better then the clients.
THerapist @ 4:52 - I bet the ants are mad at Dominic Casey! IF they didn’t know he was looking there, they would have fired him! Even in November they didn’t want anyone looking for Caylee except alive!!!! Right? Or were they lying about that too? Or maybe Leevil gave the PI a little assignment without telling C & G?
I do think that the ants are in even MORE trouble over this! LOL! Goodie!!
Side note: Just wondering if LE is waiting for the funeral (as we all are -geeesh) to be over before they charge and arrest the ants. It would be the best thing to do PR wise and meanwhile, well, heck! They just keep on digging themselves a deeper hole!!!!
To me this indicates that the Ants knew Caylee was dead while in public they kept up the ridiculous charade that Caylee was alive in order to rake in donations and hawk their T shirts etc.
They(the Ants) are just plain con artists.
snookers at 5:13 - I agree. I might think that the ants didn’t know - that maybe the PI was doing this on his own or maybe Leevil put him up to it but not now - not after the ants’ own attorney claimed the tape as his/their property! They’re in the frying pan now!
Whoopee!
I thought that Hoover volunteered to help. I had no idea he was being paid. Perhaps Dominic Casey was hired and paid and he used Hoover as an assistant. Either way, the whole thing just hurts my brain.
Profiteering off a childs murder.
Shit is getting deep, waiting for the wipe then FLUSH!!!!
Sin can eat grits with Wunder-Snatch…won’t that be nice????
Well, the truth will come out with those tapes. Too many people involved.One will sing.
In a way M is a lot smarter than the Ants. No accomplice, no witnesses for her dirty deed.
Conway claims that the Anthony family “feels betrayed by Hoover!”
Hey, Caylee WAS betrayed by the Anthonys.
Yappers another chapter in the Caylee saga…
Grammy: I think Dominic Casey was a paid PI for Baez and M when Hoover volunteered to help the ants. But when Dominic started working for the ants, maybe some kind of hierarchy of PIs kicked in with Dominic being the top guy?
Kind of looks that way because supposedly Dominic was in charge of “looking” around that area and stuck Hoover with the job of videotaping it.
They feel betrayed by Hoover…why what did he do? Because he bustd on them with this tape of them talkng on the phone to one of them giving out the location of the body…aww poor ants..I mean why else would they feel betrayd?
Therapist = the ants feel betrayed by anyone and everyone who has done anything to sincerely find out what the heck the story is with their dead grandchild! I think if M had had another hour with C before C called 911 we would never ever have heard about Caylee’s death. I think M would have “moved away” and the ants would be telling everyone what a wonderful life M and Caylee were having in X new state (Alaska maybe). I mean it. They would have sweeped little Caylee’s death right under the rug.
Sorry. I meant “swept.” I am so PO’d I can’t even write.
mediawatcher, you brought up some very good points in your 4:52 pm post.
Re: The last part of my 5:26 post.
I just started laughing because I think if M had told the truth just that once - before C called 911 - and said, “Mom, I killed Caylee” - I think C would have helped cover it up. They would have made up some story and M would have been moved out of town somewhere so no one would notice that Caylee was missing.
Well, we were wrong about the Ants in one thing.
We always faulted them for not looking for Caylee’s body. Secretly they were , however, indirectly.
This secretive family is just incredible.
I hope this tape stuff will really bite them in the *ss.
Therapist:
It’s a slippery slope for Ants or their attorney to claim ownership of a tape like that.
If ownership of that tape starts being disputed in court - everyone involved better bend over and kiss their hinies goodbye.
snookers - what do you think would have happened if Dominic had found the remains and told the ants? Do you think they would have come forward with that info?
They are fools to claim ownership of a tape that contains that much evidence on it..those men were working for the ants pro-bono or for a fee and they were prodding and digging around in the area the body was dumped…were they prodding within the 1 acre that was gridded off to locate all her bones?
hey guys
Also - a general post about Geraldo (my husband and I refer to him as “pure-aldo” as in pure BS!) …
What did he say exactly about paying (or not) for the tape?
Because Fox News is owned by News Corp and they have many subsidiaries and products including:
Broadcasting, Publishing, Media, Internet, Entertainment Products Films, Television, Cable Programming, Satellite Television, Magazines, Newspapers, Books, Sporting Events, Websites
So - while “Fox News” proper may not have paid for the tape … one of their other subsidiaries (Publishing? Newspapers? Magazines?) could have completed a financial transaction for the tape and it would never reflect on Fox News bookkeeping.
That’s how they get around those things and still say “we didn’t pay for it”!!
If the tape and camera belonged to the PI, then the owner would be the PI, not the Ants. If the Ants want to be that stupid and claim it, then maybe there is light at the end of the tunnel after all.
K snookers sorry…it was more a pop shot at Sin than anything.
I don’t hold any particular slants on that subject. Just stabbing at Sin
Yah let them lay claim to the tape of the pi’s diggng round where the body was dumpd…yah real smarts ther.
M2c,
I really can only hope that they would have called LE if Dom would have found the remains.
After all they loved that little girl. However, I am not sure if they would have. They are such scumbags IMO.
Ahhh cripes..now we went and dun it…fargn…we shewt….
Awww mang
I haven’t been on all day…am I missing something with sindee and the tapes?
Goldy,
That is ok. Still love you with your excellent posts..
A large amount of our population is homo sexual.
They also tend to be more easily hurt IMO with such remarks.
And most of them are wonderful people like the rest of us. Am sure some of our posters are.
You work with different people and you know what I mean.
When Geraldo played that tape,, I vaguely thought, i saw ABC logo in corner. Could be wrong though. ABC already paid the Ants I believe in the past for pictures.
We own the tape…wait no we dont..Wunder-Snatch has custody of the body…wait we are planning both public and private funerals and the people who know that we helped cover this up can’t come…oooops what cover up??? we never said anything about not liking anyone who knows a bit more about the truth of this all…get that camera out of my face…hey lookie here while we cry and beg for attention…
Ever wonder where Manson In A Mini Skirt got so good at the lies????
It’ll be interesting to find out who the camera belonged to.
Imagine the spread sheets George and Cindy must have to keep to track the lies.
Oh to be a fly on the wall in that house of horrors!
One of them is going to snap.
pickles…I know I was just makin a light hearted remark!
Mediawatcher said:
“I don’t know how the Anthony’s can claim ownership of the tape … it opens up a whole can of worms for them”
YES IT DOES…The Anthony’s lose track of all their BS…they NEED control so they say whatever fits the moment to make them appear to be in control without pondering the consequences…this is their pattern Leave them talk…they will hang themselves…no wonder M is so messed up!..GEEZ!!
Fling…and you know who at Pickles…:)
Catch ya’ll later
Dear A Grammy’s heart..funny you should say that about a spreadsheet. When C was bein g interviewed by LE she did indeed have a spreadsheet and even annoyed LE while she stood behind him showing off all her FACTS***
He basically told her to sit down and stop looming behind him. Another instance of her trying to run the show.
Mytwocents, I agree with you that it’s lucky that C didn’t give M anymore time.
The one thing that I believe though is that M could never moved away from home for very long because she always needed a victim to live of f of until she could destroy them of all their possessions. But the enables would always be there for her.
The monster has C & G’s unconditional love in exchange for them being her willing victims. I guess the Ants never figured that out they have NOTHING in return!
Spreadsheet….yep another form of control. That woman is NUTS. I would love to hear what her co workers would say about Cindy.
Which brings up a question, why hasnt any of caseys friends been out in the networks more talking about this? Do you think they are being told by LE not sell any interviews etc…so that it doesnt hurt their creditibility for trial? Or do you think thats all they had and they just dont know the girl?
mediawatcher said “If ownership of that tape starts being disputed in court - everyone involved better bend over and kiss their hinies goodbye.”
OMG… when reading that I burst out laughing and my chapped lips broke open. OUCH!
your chapped lips broke???? LMAO..thats even funnier!
Hateliars,
Yes, C is a control nut.
I still think , it was strange she reported the pontiac as stolen when she called LE. M had been using it for months. Another tool that C used for control over M, ditto with that precious baby.
You just wonder who is more sick in the head M or C.
maybe the reason the ants are claiming ownership of that video is because they know they will soon be proven to be on the other end of dominic’s phonecall anyway. If they claim ownership as if they directed him, then maybe they can say the info came from a new tip and that they didn’t bother with LE because they had already supposedly looked there.
It’s strange how Cindy and Casey have such deep mistrust of LE. Speaks volumes about George IMO
Good point, Gammy’s Heart!
hi everyone! ok i missed alot whats going on now? seems like something is coming down with the tape??
I was off today but had alot to do ( and moved big A** couch back).. i feel so much better now that i fixed what i messed up.. tee hee
its been a crazy day here…
lil red… glad you were not hurt from the robe campfire you tred to light, but sounds like a me story lol
Ok i havent heard a bit of news other than what i see you all talking about..
T wanna be- are youthawed out yet? this mornig I could not get into my car cause all doors were frozen and so that hurt like mad to PRY the doors open, such a mess it is here still!!!
A Grammy’s Heart @ 6:12 - That could be but remember M dated a bunch of cops and C married one so I think the real distrust came when LE arrested M! I mean how dare they? How dare they not believe every word out of her scummy mouth? And on top of that NOT believe the vunder mummy of the mummy of the year!
I think that’s the root of their problem with LE.
The mysterious Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzalez – the babysitter - has not only come out of hiding, but is filing a civil suit against Casey. Attorneys actually wanted to go into the courtroom or into the jail and bring Zenaida with them. They wanted to sit down with Casey Anthony and have a videotaped deposition in the jailhouse. The judge said he would not allow that as it would infringe on her 5th Amendment rights. Casey has rights, but poor little Caylee didn’t have any; her mother took them away. A list of questions will be given to Casey in jail, through her attorney, and they will have 30 days to respond. Her attorney indicated in an interview later that he will give her the list of questions and instruct her to write her name, date of birth and plead the 5th.
This is just the beginning. We are in for a long ride and we will stick it out because the important thing in the end is justice for a little Caylee.
also a good point,2 cents!
Maybe the reason M dated the cops was because she saw how easily C could run the show with G though, and that’s why she’s surprised these LE dudes won’t buy in.
I also think that Cindy and Casey think they are bullet proof because they both have slept with cops.
ok am I alone???? paging anyone? everytime I come here noone here
I miss all the fun…
The fifth amendment needs to be abolished! IMO
hi XOXOXOXO
CA SAID 6:17PM:
JUSTICE FOR LITTLE CAYLEE…THAT’S FOR SURE AND WE SHALL STICK IT OUT TOGETHER ….FOR HER!
hey C-A ok I am not alone…
yah reading this blog havent went back to old one… seems like from what I am reading casey was speaking to someine on phone while poking around and we al think it was leevil>? or someone from ants camp?
whats with conway ? how would this tape belong to him?
5th Amendment = I am guilty. Leave me alone.
Yah, i just watched the video of him coming out of the woods in dress clothes? Seems this was an off the cuff, impromtu visit to the woods…I bet you it was leevil….how long do ya think till they get casey’s (of all names) phone records? and why is he probing the earth….stickin rods in it…do you think he was stickin the rod throught the bag? He also was slashing garbage bags in the area of an old abandoned house? This is so frickin mind bending…
How long you think , i mean it shouldn’t take more then 24rs for a supboena to AT&T ….and no more then a few days for hard copy records…match the calls to the date on the camera ~ 2 seconds…
C~A said “This is just the beginning. We are in for a long ride and we will stick it out because the important thing in the end is justice for a little Caylee.”
I second that!
grammy - yes I believe that too. How can anyone who is charged with such a heinous and hideous act have the right to say …nope, not talkin….she has taken the fifth since the day she was born…more importantly since july 15th….and is allowed to….when she pleads the fifth on the deposition, does the jury get to have knowledge of it? They better, that will eleviate all doubt wouldn’t it now!
TW - hi there
so now lv lawyer is changing his stories!! does anyone involved with this case know how to tell the truth??? im beginning to think none of them know how,,lv lawyer said he saw the pi’s vidio last week when questioned how he saw it, he states on tv but when pointed out it wasnt on tv till last night he denies even seeing the vidio at all…..go figure!!!!
xoxox - If conway is stating the tape belongs to the ants it’s because casey was workin for them so the evidence is theirs…cat’s out people…who cares now..should have thought of that before…maybe ask your son to shed some light.
lv claims it wasnt him on the phone..now the pi says he was talking to a phycic!hmm… doubt that its on wftv
I hate to ask this question because you will now know exactly how ignorant I really am but……
Can the prosecutor bring in certain video tapes as evidence at the trial? If so, which ones would be admissible?
(I hide my face in shame):(
HI C~A … you’re looking good today! You okay?
anna - where you reading this about leevil….so cops are sniffing around askin him questions? What do the cops expect him to say…he’s an anthony…
So has everyone watched the video? Its online somewhere I posted a link if not your jaw just drops like what are they thinking claiming this tape is theirs? THAT is the stupidest thing to do.. No wonder they want immunity and this was supposed to prove that the body wasn’t there. Well too bad C&G,a botchy video very close to where she was (but no dice) cant even stand against science and evidence!
TW - Oh your so sweet…and guess what, I don’t know what would be admissable or not…I would think they could bring in any and all evidence and the judge would deem it relevant or not….my guess is that every inch of video/audio tape is totally relevant…
c~a its on wftv 9 orlando
TW - Yah, hon I be ok? Thanks for asking
I don’t understand how someone can plead the 5th. It’s like saying she’s not interested enough to talk now that she’s lost her cell phone privileges. She sure talked up a storm when she was conjuring up her twisted tales. She enjoyed that type of attention. Now it isn’t as much fun.
GuiltLee or Leevil as you all call him, has been hiding again. I think he is frantically trying to negotiate, in a backwards way, with LE. They can’t hide forever. It’s all gonna come out in the wash.
thanks anna
C~A 6:24
That’s the answer! Supboena Mr. Casey’s phone records.
Talk about a live game of CLUE. Everyone seems to be in the library with a candlestick.
That was some PI tape. Obviously Dominic would think of talking to his ill daughter will searching for a body; quality time? I assume they will match those concrete paver stones to the ones used in G’s 4th of July patio project. M will steal anything and now it will come back to bite her.
Even though last week Eyewitness News heard that only Dominic Casey’s colleague, private eye Jim Hoover who shot it, had a copy of the videotape at the scene where Caylee’s remains were found almost a month later, Luka said he saw it last week and talked to Dominic Casey about it. Then he backtracked.
“How did you see it last week? Who showed it to you last week?” Belich asked Luka.
“Well, I take that back,” Luka said. “I was not shown it. When it was on TV I saw it.”
“Well, it wasn’t on TV until last night,” Belich told Luka.
“Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw,” he said
LMAO wow what a moron! He fits in for leevils attorney alright, but he is very bad at lying.
C~A thanks for answering my question. I’m glad all is good!
I have to take a break and go out into the COLD weather… Hey, XOXOXOX
Sounds pretty freakin’ stupid. Going into the woods with dress clothes, poking the ground with a rod using one hand, while trying to manage a cell phone with the other hand to call your sick daughter?
This is even better than some of M’s stories.
Ok, I’ll shut up, but there’s something new every day!
TW - I try to respond to as much as I can…always for you
Capy- I know right? Its just an everyday thing to go poking around for the remains of a 2 year old while on the phone with your ill daughter saying “it would be right here.”
What would be right here to your daughter? Eh?
How are you doin by the way Capy? Havn’t seen you around in awhile!
I do not believe that one can take the 5th in a civil case..which the Zenaida case is!!!
Dominic Casey said he was first talking to his daughter … in the P.I. video now he is saying he was talking to a Psychic. Right! He said “It should be right here …” There were some concrete bags. Jane is on right now, NG in about 50 minutes. He was poking, digging, crime scene.
Should have been careful, gloves, coveralls, etc. Another class act, connected to, hired by the ants.
C and G hired him. Stabbing garbage bags. Tampering with evidence! Mother Load … they said.
Meter Reader might have taken pictures … sold them? Heard something about that.
Everyone should hire Dominic Casey! His casual instincts are amazing. Think of all the things he could find just before they were found!
He may have very well talked to his ill daughter…might not be a lie…but it was 1/2 hour after the video was shot.
UM … concrete blocks, sorry. Not bags.
Shan, my computer got the XP2008 virus on Jan. 1. Data Doctors (computer repair) said 3-4 people per week are bringing their computers in with this virus.
…. talking to his psychic now? When people start changing their stories right and left … well, you know - just like M. Time to get lawyered up!
hey capy..HI
you been without a comp …yikes..
people are gonna cover their tracks…casey could have gotten iformation on the body’s location in some other manner….called his daughter or a psychic so records would clear him…hi is a PI for gods sake..he’s really not going to be talkin to leevil or any ant all the while being video taped….which leads to me the next question…why video it in the first place…it would be evidence…and why if he knew he was going into the woods before hand, and it was not off the cuff…was he wearing a dress shirt and dress pants?
evidence of his possible knowledge and connection? Why would he allow himself to be videotaped if he was going there to find the body and maybe destroy evidence?
While I was watching the video, I heard the guy saying he could have destroyed fingerprints on the bag with the probe…or allowing fluids etc. to seep outta the bag…he is speculating right? I mean it is not proven that he found the bag….but is suspicious all the same…if he was actully there to find the body…was the purpose to hide evidence? and if he found it, why didn’t he remove it? Hide it better…why would the ants even send him there in the first place?
You guys leaving me alone…hey xoxoxoxoxooxox
you were crying like I was chopped liver and you blasted outta here???? where you go?
Hi saluk - really? why would bozo be stating he would advise her to do so? If she can’t you would think it would have been reported on much less bozo would know about that? OR not..lol
Ok, so what if she refuses the deposition questionaire that is really “bozos”?
And she will….she will not respond at all…she’s already in jail…will she then be charged…more time…probabley…it’ll be rackn up in no time…
Concerned and quiet: Excellent blog earlier with the scared monkey site. I hadn’t seen that. WOW. Is that telling or not…
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/
Wut I think:
Miss Murder had been having a long ongoing row with the ant’s about Wunder-Snatch staying home and being a good mommy for her kid, getting a job, all that stuff but Miss Murder wasn’t having any of that. The row between them gets even deeper and often physical because Miss Murder points out that they don’t hold Leevil (the baby daddy) to the same accountability of being a good father. He gets to play all he wants because it is ‘his job’.
First she started doping her kid (probably with Xanax…her first Zanny the Nanny) so she could sneak out at night. She got caught doing that by the ant’s because Caylee started getting used to the pills and started waking up at night and the ant’s clamped down on the Wunder-Snatch. Told her one more false move and she was gonna be out on her skanky a$$. Daddy even threatens to drug test the baby if he ever even suspects she is doping up their grandchild again. That is when she hit the apartment trail and where her mind picked up on and stored the ZG name (most psychotics when in a clear state have damn near photographic memories).
Mom and dad are onto her now so she needs a new cover. She tries ditching the kiddo at friends houses but they are young and restless too. They said ‘Uh uh…no way. She’s cute and all but she is your baggage’.
What is a Wunder-Snatch gonna do? Can’t feed the kiddo any more pills, daddy might be good on his threat (he is an ex-cop), but legs don’t get spread as easy when they have a child latched onto them do they?
Google…Chloroform. Kid sleeps all night long in the car or a motel if she can beg some poor bastard from the night before for enough for a room. Blow him hard enough and he might pay for two nights.
Party time for Miss Murder to be. Problem is that just like pills the kiddo builds up a tolerance to chloroform. One too many times of coming back to a car or motel room that has been tore up by her ’snot nose’, not to mention that she absolutely tears up Murder Mom’s make up kits (oh how she wants to wring her kiddos neck for getting into that Google… ‘neck breaking’). Gotta keep upping the dose. Can’t go back to the ‘zannys’. Might need to get help or favors from mommy and daddy later and don’t want ex cop daddy to insist on a drug test.
Father’s day. family time. All caught on camera…little Caylee with paw paw…one big happy family. Til they drive back to the ant’s. Wunder-Snatch is just dying to get out and get some nose candy and some ween. Sin thinks that they have had just the ‘perfect’ family day and wants a little more quality time with her daughter and their precious grandchild. The two psycho bitches get into it. Wunder-Snatch insists that she will leave her ’snot nose’ there but she is going out. The ant’s put their foot down about their ‘be a good mommy’ stance. The fight that ensues really upsets Caylee. It gets physical. Finally Miss Murder bolts from the house…psycho juice running through her veins with ice water freezing her heart. She drives on and away but the ’snot nose’ won’t shut up about her G’mah and G’pah. Won’t sit still for the damned chloroform rag either. Miss Murder will show the little ’snot nose’ and lock her in the trunk to teach her smart little ass a lesson.
Opening the trunk, Caylee fighting her the whole way, Psycunt notices the duct tape…something cool and practical dad must have put in there for some unknown reason along with a few other tools that might help in a roadside emergency. Miss Murder thinks this is about as emergency as you get. ‘Snot nose’ wont shut up or sit still for the rag? Well then just tape it in her mouth.
The next morning…kiddo is still quiet. Great Wunder-Snatch thinks. She will just go up and do a few more lines of white and get some more ween at wherever the hell she is at with whats his name.
Later that day she realizes kiddos should eat at least once a day right? Pop the trunk to try and wake ’snot nose’ up. Oh no.
Quick, think. Go out to a cheap motel out by the airport. Call Leevil…got to tell him what happened. Got to get a way out of this.
Coldly, sadly…realizing the party was over when she wasn’t quite done…Miss Murder backs off. Little impromptu roll in the sheets with bro just for old times. Let him know you found a long term sitter and that the high times between you two can begin again. He is just a dumb pussy hound any way. He likes the idea of getting back into my pants on a regular basis again.
Dammit though, what to do to get rid of snot nose? I know park the car. Let someone steal it.
One day, two, maybe three. No one steals the damn car. Starts to really stink too and I need some new clothes. I know what to do…good place to get rid of smelly back there. No one really goes there any more anyway. Then I can go home and pick up some extra clothes.
Miss Murder:
“Okay the coast is clear. Dump ’snot nose’ off and check around because you don’t want to get caught. The yard next door…oh yeah I know this bitch…she got into it with me at the market that time…Zenieda or something. Walk to the other side…oh the Gonzales’s. I’d like to give that cousin of theirs a roll…”
(mental snapshot…click…again photographic memory for pshycopaths)
“…Damn but the car does stink. I remember smelling something like this when that squirrel died in our garage. Dad is going to know if I ever let him near the car. Got to figure something out…”
And the story sits still for about a month from there. Little Miss Murder Mom Who Can’t Get Enough Of The Scene Or The Ween has the best friggin time of her life while Caylee rots.
Until controlling Sin backed her daughter into a corner because she missed ‘loving ‘ (ack…manipulating) her granddaughter a month later Caylee sat there like dumped garbage.
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That’s just how I see it happened.
Poor baby. God bless her now.
OMG - I just saw the video on wftv with leevils attorney…..when asked how he saw the video last week if it was never on tv before last night….what a squirmey sweaty dance he did…his words “I TAKE THAT BACK”…then he say..”did I see it?” to himself…fumbling bafoon….he’s an f’ing liar…leevil is up to his unibrow in this….he totally is…if his lawyer is lying and thank god, got caught on tape …..he is covering….this world is money hungry hateful place…
k, who’s talkin to herself now? Please someone save me from myself and not force a 6th plus post ALONE
….(helllloooooo) 
Ng is coming on in 7 mins. Fine I am leaving you till first commmercial..(sticks tongue out)
HI Jan and Simon
last call…
CA, please, oh please don’t do it!!! Back away from talking to yourself. You can do it, I have faith in you.
Casey has been lying and got caught, Lee got caught lying, now the damn PI got caught lying. WHAT’S NEXT?
PAW - Now Leevil’s attorney, Luka, got caught lying! LOL!
What I do not understand is why these lawyers need to get on TV and say ANYTHING!!!!??????
There’s just no need to. And most especially when they are no good at it!!!! Not helpin’ guys! Your clients should sue you!!!!
Needless to say, none of this is helping the dream team what so ever.
Wow, so now Kronk’s Supervisor could have tipped off the Ants????? Ughhhh. This is a situation of too many roosters and not enough hens.
THE BEAD IS OUT!!!!!!!!
Thats the only attribute they have in life lying!!
Kronk’s supervisors tipped the ants off to what?
Everyone is tipping off everyone. Arrest and charge them ALL!!! Screw it. Get them all up in the jail.
SO what did Kronk’s supervisor tip the ants off about?
Apparently to that area.
Kronk called his Supervisor when he was in that area. The supervisor lives on that same street.
Ohhh because Kronk saw something back in August…and the supervisor tipped the ants off about it….WOW…I mean you know…thats nuttz if they followed up on it and recorded it
Back in August?
So this is how I see it. Kronk was trying to do the right thing, called 911 and his supervisor. The supervisor decided to tell the Ants. But now rumor has it that Kronk took pictures as well, and either sold them or tried to sell them. Hmmmm. I want more info about that before I comment on that part.
Yah….I figured it was the dooder who is neighbors with them…WOW…why tip them fools off thought…I mean for pete sakes sh~ far LeRoy give me a break..What just being neighborly..
Listened to the show for the first time Jan 11 episode pickles: Good job.
just as information:
The Zanny the Nanny book is this one, published in 1991. Double Trouble Squared: A Starbuck Family Adventure, Book One (Paperback)
by Kathryn Lasky You can look up the plot on Amazon if you want. In this one Zanny is a heroine.
Yes in August, which is why the PI’s went to that area. It’s getting crazy again.
UGHHH..See Kronk…IF he did take pics and try to get monitary gain from it…thats f~’d up!! Fur real doh!! UGHHH…who is sayng all of this? who….is the ants..or is this real legit news?
Zanny is heroin or Zanny is a hero…the book..
Watching NG Pickles lol.
Came from Padilla Pickles.
How do people with no money employ anybody? How can people be PI’s hired by the ants and not get paid? If it is pro bono work it is misleading to say that they were hired by the ants. If the ants were using $ from the donated Caylee funds, who decided on using THOSE specific PI’s? Just wondering.
Thank yew Sheller fer yer kind werds!! The sho is the best..!! To fun dahlng to fun
It came from Padilla…all that came from Padilla…are you serious…aghhh…come on now…who is his mole?
Pickles, Anymore, I don’t know what to believe anymore. The only thing I know is that Casey killed Caylee. Oh and Dominick Casey refuses to hand over phone records.
I would like to know why this PI would not be wearing gloves and different clothing???? WTF!
Hi Lulu..the bead is out!!
Gosh this is so cloak and dagger just to look at this book on Amazon
Can somebody be called a PI and not have a license? If they are licensed, is there a code of conduct/ethics? For example, would wearing gloves be standard operating procedure when looking for a body? And why would the search be videotaped????? Just perplexed.
C~A at 7:51
I’m behind times - I never heard this. Hope this gets some attention on NG.
The plot just keeps getting thicker and thicker. Wunder Snatch is goin’ down!
I’m not worried about the video tape, because if I was a PI, I’d want to video tape too. But to not wear gloves is plain stupid, because now your are contaminating potential evidence.
All right so far I dont think that book has anything to do with Zanny the nanny that we are all talking about…maybe but…I mean that book is way to advanced for Caylee and kc…seriously ..but im going to find a sight that will let me see the page in the book that has the zanny the nanny reference…cus its not the title of the book its just one page that has that reference.
Wow Paddy is actually talking straight! Well this kind of is his ground.
Folks I’m shutting it down for the day. I understand how this stuff moves and why it has gone so slow. The ant’s have been flushed out though in my opinion. Just give it time.
***Flicks giant snotwads in every direction and extras a jooohhhh Pickles***
Night ya’ll
Its in more than one book
Jooh bettr watch yer self der partnr!!
I think its just a book
;)!!
paw - but if ya were tipped off..which it looks like he was…his actions are totally questionable in the video…then why video it? I don’t get it…but leevils attorney is lying…caught on tape.,…it’s not on the up and up is all i know…
*kicks rocks @ Pickles*
ya dork Pickles lol.
CA, I just don’t know anymore. They all need to be locked up.
*kicks rocks @ PAW69* barefoot
yur a dork!!!
Pickles, there is a mouse in your pocket
Sources: Casey PI Talking With Psychic In Video
Private Investigator Shown In Videotape
POSTED: 7:53 pm EST January 11, 2009
UPDATED: 6:13 pm EST January 12, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. — The Anthony family’s private investigator told authorities he was talking on the phone with a psychic as he searched woods in November not far from where Caylee Anthony’s remains were found, sources told WESH 2 News on Monday.
Dominic Casey can be seen talking on a telephone in video shown this weekend on “Geraldo At Large” on the Fox News Channel.
Another private investigator shot the video that shows Casey coming out of the woods on Nov. 15. Casey told WESH 2 reporter Bob Kealing previously that he was talking on the phone with his daughter.
But on Monday, two sources said Casey said he was talking with a psychic who was telling him where to search along Suburban Drive. Investigators are reviewing that assertion.
Hey PAW69…booger!!
Of course he wus talkng to the person who see’s dead ppl…for cripes sakes..it took them that long to say it was a fargn counterfiet profit? Give me a break…thats just ridiculous
Caylee may be cremated
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) — The remains of Caylee Anthony may be cremated.
The attorney for the Anthony family feels that might be the best option.
The toddler was missing from June of last year until her remains were found in wooded area near the Anthony home in December. The Orange County medical examiner released the remains to the defense team recently and the Anthony family expects them to be turned over to them sometime this week.
Then the family can move forward with funeral arrangements. One of the options that is being explored is to have the remains cremated.
“A concern of mine would be the sick individuals out there that might think it would be nice to dig up this child’s grave and profit somehow from it,” said the Anthony family attorney Brad Conway. “So were she’s buried, and whether she’s cremated or not are still things the Anthony family will decide, but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”
Once the remains are turned over to the family they are expecting to hold both a private and public memorial.
Paw - My brain hurts…numb to the stupidity and the corrupt nature of almost everyone involved…it’s mind bending…and sureal!
Hey did you get to go to the park eventually? Poor Paw family…I hope you got to go!
Yah a psycic…thats just a lame bunch of bovine droppngs..I cant believe that crapp
Pickles , booger!!!!
but we’re going to make sure this child is laid to rest permanently.”
All I can say is HOW DARE THEY!…
CA no we didn’t , it rained , grrrrr
A psycic my butt….fur real doh thats the lamest crap I have ever heard…flat out..Yah I hope they can prove the phone records that it was a psycic..and if they can its only because leevil knew of that psycic who claimed that the body was there in AUgust..so its all a scam
ARGH! Why didn’t NG just ask Gail St. John if she talked with Dominic Casey on 11/15??
She could have cleared up an important point and made breaking news with that.
She had her sitting right there on her show!!!
**sobbing and covering head with pillow in frustration**
How can they cremate her tiny bones…nobody is gonna dig her up….famous people are buried all the time and never dug up from crazed groupies..etc…this is a normal little girl that was murdered…now the ants are gonna blame the public…once again for NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THIS BABY…DAMN THEM IF THEY DO..
media - your so right, NG blew it!
Lawyer Says Lee Denied He Was On Phone With P.I.
Monday, January 12, 2009 – updated: 6:22 pm EST January 12, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — It’s some of the biggest evidence yet in the case against Casey and Eyewitness News and WFTV.com were the first to obtain the video of an Anthony family private investigator at the crime scene a full month before Caylee’s body was foun.
Eyewitness News is working to find out who told that private eye to go there. The video showed that private investigator talking on the phone to somebody and detectives are pulling records to find out whom.
No matter why the Anthony family’s private investigator was at the scene, conducting a search a month before Caylee’s remains were found, the big question still is who was on the other end of the cell phone with private eye Dominic Casey in November, possibly directing him. Some wonder whether it was Lee Anthony and even his own attorney checked into it.
Eyewitness News watched the video with Lee Anthony’s attorney, Tom Luka (watch interview). The video shows the Anthony family’s private eye, Dominic Casey, prodding and poking the ground at the crime scene and on the cell phone with someone.
“Is it Lee?” WFTV reporter Kathi Belich asked Luka on Monday.
“No, not that I know of. He denied ever talking to him,” he said.
But Eyewitness News uncovered video of Lee Anthony and Dominic Casey at the jail together right after Lee’s sister Casey was arrested there. So, Kathi Belich asked again.
“Is it Lee on the phone with Dominic Casey?” Belich asked Luka.
“As far as I know, as far as my client is concerned, it’s not him on the phone on November 15th 2008,” Luka said.
“Could it be somebody who Lee spoke with who then went to Dominic Casey and provided information?” Belich asked.
“In the realm of speculation, it could’ve been anyone,” Luka said.
Even though last week Eyewitness News heard that only Dominic Casey’s colleague, private eye Jim Hoover who shot it, had a copy of the videotape at the scene where Caylee’s remains were found almost a month later, Luka said he saw it last week and talked to Dominic Casey about it. Then he backtracked.
“How did you see it last week? Who showed it to you last week?” Belich asked Luka.
“Well, I take that back,” Luka said. “I was not shown it. When it was on TV I saw it.”
“Well, it wasn’t on TV until last night,” Belich told Luka.
“Well, I take that back. I did not see it. Did I see it? No, I did not see that video. I take that back. That was not the video I saw,” he said.
Dominic Casey previously told Eyewitness News he was at the scene in November to rule out the possibility that Caylee’s remains could be there. Then he said he was there to rule out that the area was a teen hangout years ago. Lee’s attorney, though, told Eyewitness News that Dominic Casey told him he was there to rule out a psychic’s tip.
During all that time, the Anthonys and their private investigators were insisting that Caylee was still alive.
Are they really cremating her?
Does anyone know if those cement pavers came from the Ants backyard? ALSO were they there when the body was recovered?
Caylee is continuing to be the least of the ants worries…they just want all evidence of the child ….gone..permanently…I hate them
Thank you Gracie…Hi by the way..nice to see you over here..
C~A why do half the shit they have done??? They may have raised a damn good manipulator and liar (not to mention a baby killing teewwwwhhat) but none of them quite have her s-kills at it. She learned it all in bits and pieces from them.
Now it’s falling apart. This will take time but it’s all adding up and going down.
One last slite to Caylee cremating her remains…Killr is in control of the remains..she is ultimately choosing this…she wunts for Caylee to completely disapear.
I dont know if they cement pavers had anything to do with it..
Hi Spodie
The ants put in the new pavers back in July…around the 4th…
I agree…with Fish..she learnd it over time frum her parents…yappers…g is the master at the double life and she learnd that frum him real good….controlng power trip from c
The video they showed on tv today was blurry, not focused on much of anything…real crummy. The one yesterday that the expert dissected showed Casey probing, picking up, and some digging. Casey said a couple days ago that Hoover never worked for his company and never would work for his company..that he volunteered his services to the family for free. No wonder Hoover got a lawyer. He’s working with LE. Now Casey says the video is belongs to the ants? Casey, you can’t have it both ways…can’t claim a work product if the dude doesn’t work for ya. 3 days of searching? wonder how he picked one psickic out of the 1000’s that wrote in and tied up manpower for weeks. If they believed in psickic’s, Baez would have paid the 700.00 and picked up the CD he ordered from LE. Casey could have searched THOUSANDS of leads. Baloney…someone is LYING around down there…!
I think the rest she learnd frum the boob toob…television my dear friends the sex and the city lifestyle…compounded with the FLorida glam,hot,sezzy,party filled,debauchary all made it who she is..she desired the hilt but was just a seedy roach infestd hookr hotel in the middle of the ghetto…champagne wishes with a skanks pocket book..lowly nasty ugly river rock…
Hi Pickles. Good to see you too. If my posts are too long, I’ll stop. Just let me know. I can just post the links.
CA and Pickles! Don’t worry. There is no way that M or the ants can erase little Caylee from this earth! Remember all the photos and videos of her beautiful face and voice? They are OUT THERE in the world, on TV, on the internet FOREVER! The ants will never be able to look at the TV again without fearing they will see her! And they will - when they least expect it!
Plus WE and many many other people hold Caylee dear to our hearts and we always will. The mutant could kill the body but not the spirit of Caylee. And that spirit will haunt her and her family the rest of their lives and all the way to hell.
Id never trade the muddy ol country fur that party life style…nope…give me a pair of jeans and a fittd shirt with a big ol belt buckle and dirt bike in the mud…YAH buddy..To bad she couldnt just succomb to that childs love …cant turn a hoe into a house wife tho!!
Spodie…interesting question about the pavers. I wondered the same thing. Sort of coinkidink…pavers in the yard, pavers over the burial site. Probably just had a good sale on pavers at Home Depot? Nah…I’ll bet they are real similar. Don’t you?
Gracie joooh are just fine dahlng!!
Cremation doesn’t even destroy the bones, they have people or machines with pressers that crush the bones and ashes up at the end of the line and it is usually multiple bodies at once that go in the oven.
My dad was cremated and this was all explained to us when we were told he couldn’t go into the fire with the mementos we had left with him (mine was a hot wheels Corvette, he finally got his vette…now I got back the Mustang he sold to marry my mom).
This is really disturbing. I hope they don’t do that. I understand the cremation process and why it is done the way it is. Bone just does not burn. But seriously if they really gave a damn like they pretended to do when caylee was ‘missing’ then they would know she deserves something personal.
Family is a bunch of sick f*cks. If I lived out there…oooohh I know street people and addicts and their nature. $200 and you could have a few pipe hitting crackheads torching their house.
Gracie could you please also or instead post the name of the web site where you found the article? Like wftv.com or wesh.com or whatever?
Then we can go see it ourselves or watch the video etc. It’s okay to post the article. I’d just like to know where it came from so I can go see it.
Can’t turn a hoe into housewife…LOL…good one Pickles…
that would be just a waste of good skin….
I still like that line.:)
Sheller, Yes those pavers really caught my attention! You could clearly see them on the PI tape…and the suggestion that they were possibly to hold the body in place from wild animals or flooding…also as grave markers…Any one seen pics of the pavers at the Ants house?
I hate that there going to cremate her…its all killrs decision im sure..this is the last act of hatred for Caylee….
That is soo Pulp Fiction…your last sentences..I all see Marcellus Wallace when I read that..
No never see the pavers….hmm that is a good question….What are pavers for anyways…
Yah Gracie…Mytwocents is real particular about being able to go to the article herself..she broke me in on that one..
Originally it was thought the Ants poured a cement patio, but later it was told that they used cement pavers,,,those flat cement blocks.. to create their patio..and isn’t there those same pavers around Caylee’s little house in the yard? That would be a slam dunk!
As for postng such a big post is all good who cares…
So maybe killr/they used the pavers to weight the body down..maybe…
Yeah that line from pulp fiction does ring true Pickles. You know a junkie who is that far down and you promise them a few days worth of being holed up with their fix they will do just about anything. Sad but true…but I would sorely love to see it happen to the ant’s if they disrespect this poor baby like that.
They will be hunted and hounded for the rest of their lives. Hell on earth for sure but they still get to breathe. What about Caylee?
They suck ass…God will deal with them. Ultimate love and forgiveness. My God is all about that but I think that HE merits out the pain you gave in life back to you before you meet His eternal embrace. You only come back into Heaven’s light when you return as clean and redeemed as He put you on this earth.
Go back and watch the PI video and you will see them..when DC is poking around (like a jackass) they are on his left in the forground, sort of a careless jumble..grave marker
Ohhhhh - Pickles … using the pavers to weight the body down … that is a very interesting train of thought - wouldn’t that be just crazy (well … not that Anthony’s as a whole aren’t, but …) if that turned out to be what happened?
Hi, Gracie! Actually I’m particular about giving the appropriate credit/blame to the source! Plus it’s nice to be able to watch a video or see whatever else the article might offer. My request was not meant as a criticism at all! Thank you for letting us know about it!
- makes face at Pickles!
C~A said,in January 12th, 2009 at 9:07 pm How can they cremate her tiny bones…nobody is gonna dig her up….famous people are buried all the time and never dug up from crazed groupies..etc…this is a normal little girl that was murdered…now the ants are gonna blame the public…once again for NOT DOING THE RIGHT THING FOR THIS BABY…DAMN THEM IF THEY DO..
My thoughts exactly. That is not an appropriate reason to cremate and I think an effort to keep contol, but very sick. Cremate only if it is your belief/custom.
Now I wonder if the mystery blogger was real, she’s already been cremated a week ago, just Ants playing this up, pretending Baez hasn’t released the body, when there was nothing left to do with it. Drawing things out so to evade LE questioning.
Spodie - Whether the pavers are connected to poor little Caylee’s remains or not wouldn’t it be hysterical if G stole them from that site instead of buying them? Or maybe he bought them and then used some to weigh the body down. But if that was true then the body would have been put in the water in that area - isn’t there a retention pond or something?
That’s where I thought M might have put it originally and then the rains caused flooding which floated the bag out of the pond onto the ground. Maybe they will be able to tell that from the plants they found in the bag.
What a mess.
Did you all hear that Dominic Casey said he’s going to sue Hoover and have Hoover’s PI license taken away? I’m not even sure that Hoover has a PI license! LOL!
Think if Casey hadn’t trashed Hoover in that first interview and acted like he was just some PI groupie, he wouldn’t have seen the need to get an attorney. Looks like he’s trying to do the right thing…or the smart thing…got an attorney and is helping LE.
Not a retention pond M2c…but they have lived there forever. They knew it flooded often. That is why the lot had been vacant so long. Would take several thousand extra dollars of build up to make a foundation there. Good point that I already thought of but didn’t say.
I think Casey is playing CYOA. Accusing him of trying to sell the video. One news station said people are trying to offer him money, but the only people he turned it over to, it was for free, and he gave it to LE. Casey was directing him what to shoot. Casey made several phone calls not just one according to Hoover’s attorney I think. More than one psickic? Nah…I don’t buy that.
Nightingale! Spot on! “Drawing things out so to evade LE questioning!” Exactly!!!
Everybody: I asked a question a while ago (poor little ignored me - cry cry - Joking!)
But somebody please tell me why all these lawyers have to go on TV at all! Luka and Conway and BB. Why? They don’t have to do that. They can deal with LE as necessary. Why “speak for” the clients? Especially when all they’re doing is helping their clients dig deeper holes (to include their attornies!) LOL!
If they shysters would just shut up they’d be better off! (but not the ants’ style I guess?)
YEAAA! The BEAD is OUT Pickles! Poor little one.
This is one film that will HAVE to have sub - titles (labels) underneath each person, showing their name and who they are. TOO big of a cast, for anyone to remember. Even TWO Tony’s. Maybe they should label every person for the first 5 times they are shown on screen. Seems everybody has their own agenda too. NO, come to think of it, they all have the SAME agenda! $$$$$$$$$$$$ Money makes the world go ’round, they say. For some people I think it does …
I am going to watch NG again. Fell asleep while watching. She is on at least 2 more times.
mytwocents said,in January 12th, 2009 at 9:17 pm
Thank you sweetie ~ That was nice and so true..it’s hard to see the light through the anger and the pain…it’s still really not enough but sure helps!
FISHY ~ now I got back the Mustang he sold to marry my mom).
Are you shittin me here? YOu have a MUSTANG..that your dad had and sold to MARRY YER MOM? That is the most romatic thing I have EVER heard!
I might mention that MUSTANG should have been my last sons name….MY FAV.CAR IN THE WORLD…I will own one one day…I love 1969 in powder blue…what year is yours?
mytwocents:
Link for cremation information
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=8238040&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
Link for the PI trying to sell the video of Caylee site
http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18460620/detail.html
Finally, link for Lee denying he was on the phone with PI
http://www.wftv.com/news/18464944/detail.html
Goldie - thanks. Maybe I was thinking of the body of water behind the ants house - that LE had divers in not long after all this started.
So regarding very recent comments - why speculate on pavers being used to weigh the bag? No need in the wooded area.
MTC - I read your post a while ago…about the lawyers..the only thing i can offer is really the obvious….notoriety!
Not a high profile case’s style C~A. Instant info age and there be money to be made in all that dirty laundry. They are like high stakes gamblers playing all the ‘what if’ and ‘angle’ possibilities.
they want their face to be reconisable! money hungry lying pigs
CA at 9:43! That’s got to be it! They are not doing the best job for their clients because they are so full of hubris and greed and arrogance! It will bring all of them down.
A couple of these lawyers were ambulance chasers before all this started and they’ll be lucky if they can even do that when it’s over.
I don’t think the cremation story has any truth. Destroying any possibility of something they may need later. Not at this time, I don’t think they would. Too worried about their own backsides to be much interested in doing the right thing at this point. All talk and no caring…..so sad.
When meter reader gave public statement he said he saw something “white” that caught his eye, but that it was not directly related to Caylees body….something to that effect…maybe referring to the cement blocks…
What I REALLY want to know is….where those cement blocks still at the site when the body was recovered?????
P.S.: If you guys watch Greta Van Sustern, On the Record, she will be covering the case and this video in about 10 minutes. She usually has a pretty good panel to comment and discuss.
http://gretawire.foxnews.com/2009/01/12/caylee-anthony-murder-investigation-a-tape-
No C~A I have a Mustang now. Long story that I will try and make short (like I can).
When I was buying my first car I wanted a 65 Mustang I had found that I could afford and my father refused to sign the papers on it (I was 16 so I needed an adult signature). I was furious and just thought he was being his own dicky self.
Last year I bought a Mustang and heard the story for the first time. My father sold his 65 Mustang (white at that…like mine) to get a cheaper car and my mom’s wedding ring.
My dad wasn’t that much of a personable guy (to say the least) so I never knew that story before that.
betty1 - Maybe they should take more of a documentary approach and use a little different style like instead of names like Tony Lazzaro - he’d be known as “Last BF.”
The other Tony (Rusciano) would be “Fired Cop BF” and other Tony BF’s would just be known as “BF with the month that they “dated.” LOL!)
Jesse would be “dumped fiance.”
M would be M of course and BB would be “M’s shyster.” Etc. I think that would be much clearer than using everyone’s names!
C~A Good pegging on the lawyers faces on tv…instant fame, dreams of future dollars..even if they screw this up, they can claim it wasn’t their fault. Just too much evidence against killr. They still get off with their free publicity. Heck if killr will take a recommendation on an attorney from an inmate in booking…they probably figure someone will call em. Bottom feeders.
fishy read my 9:42 post entirely pweeze
sheller - aint that the truth….you said:Heck if killr will take a recommendation on an attorney from an inmate in booking…they probably figure someone will call em. Bottom feeders.
LOL 2 cents.. LOL and LMAO.
BF with the month they dated….laughed so hard I’m choking…and crying. Those are good.
I just saw the video of the P.I. again. Casey is as crude and ignorant as G and C. The whole motely crew are like the Keystone Cops, my mother would have said. CLOWNS… idiots. Certainly destroying evidence of all kinds. DISGUSTING!!!!!
NG is on.
mytwocents said,
in January 12th, 2009 at 9:50 pm
betty1 - Maybe they should take more of a documentary approach and use a little different style like instead of names like Tony Lazzaro - he’d be known as “Last BF.”
The other Tony (Rusciano) would be “Fired Cop BF” and other Tony BF’s would just be known as “BF with the month that they “dated.” LOL!)
Jesse would be “dumped fiance.”
M would be M of course and BB would be “M’s shyster.” Etc. I think that would be much clearer than using everyone’s names!
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Party girls…a dime a dozen. The fools that fall into that skeel mentality (skeel = skank appeal) even more common fodder.
Idiots get what they deserve IMO
MTC - they could totally give maggot names to all involved and we could figure it out …they are all so transparent
Tim Miller is on Greta right now giving new tips
FISHY - skeel appeal…i like it…what exactly does ween = to and READ MY POST AT 9:42 YET?
Goodnight bloggers…
oops…skeel ….is all…
Tim Miller is he will fight bb “to the very end” and not turn over any information to defense team
K, will read fishys RESPONSE….in the a.m.
(((((night night cyber fam.)))))))))))) xo
I read it C~A…and responded. Ya Skeen…not all us guys are driven by our weens. A few of us are still nice and know bad news in a trampped up package when we see it and prefer other quality factors in women than ’skeen’ factor.
Mah response:
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Goldie_Fishy said,
in January 12th, 2009 at 9:49 pm
No C~A I have a Mustang now. Long story that I will try and make short (like I can).
When I was buying my first car I wanted a 65 Mustang I had found that I could afford and my father refused to sign the papers on it (I was 16 so I needed an adult signature). I was furious and just thought he was being his own dicky self.
Last year I bought a Mustang and heard the story for the first time. My father sold his 65 Mustang (white at that…like mine) to get a cheaper car and my mom’s wedding ring.
My dad wasn’t that much of a personable guy (to say the least) so I never knew that story before that.
Dr. Baden is on Greta … says the rod Dominic Casey was using to stick in the ground is a “forensic rod” and used specifically to find “buried bodies”
mediawatcher said,in January 12th, 2009 at 10:04 pm Tim Miller is on Greta right now giving new tips
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I think it would be safe to say that Tim Miller doesn’t like Leonard Padilla. Did anyone catch that Tim’s lawyer is now Mark Nejame?
Night bloggers…night C~A…flicking boogies at jooo Pickles mah biggest fan.
Seriously gotta cut it off here or I will be up all night and I do hear Guitar Hero strumming before I hit the pillows. Oh wait wut was that part about being up all night???
Be watching and waiting…so much falling down on the ant’s now. I think LE just has a kettle a brewing for these bitches and witches.
My guts just grind in horror watching DC jab, slash and trowel looking for Caylee….Totally callous. He doesn’t display any sort of respect for the potential scene..what was going through his mind?
Gracie2 - LOL … yes, must be really hard feelings between paddy and TM.
I think Nejame is a great fit for Tim Miller - and I admire that he is ready to challenge bb and not turn over the records
Spodie said,in January 12th, 2009 at 10:21 pm My guts just grind in horror watching DC jab, slash and trowel looking for Caylee….Totally callous. He doesn’t display any sort of respect for the potential scene..what was going through his mind?
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Probably thinking if he can find little Caylee’s remains he’s gonna make a bunch of money… JMO!
mediawatcher - Definitely no love lost between them. I like Tim Miller is not giving up his records without a fight.
Goodnight all! Nice blogging with you…’til we blog again.
Goldie, your 7:45 pm post was extremely clarifying in connecting dots, providing a mind set (hard for some of us to imagine this without having a picture drawn!)
Pickles, so glad the bead came out. I was worried, and thought about suggesting a neti pot, but no need!
my2cents. I like your idea even better than mine. I knew if I put it out there, someone could refine it, better than I could.
Thanks Lulu..it is hard to conceive even for me as someone who has been through a lot of the shit with addicts and manic personalities and all but I could see how it would come to a head like that. Probably not the story but something like it.
In the end Wunder-Snatch need never get out of jail and them that be her ‘peeps’ (calling them a family now just leaves a bad taste in my mouth) need some due time and justice too.
GOOD MORNING ALL MY BOOGER PICKIN’ PEEPS!
GRACIE 9:43pm post…
I viewed the video of the ants PI poking the ground….talking on the phone to ???? Then watched as LVs’ atty himmed and hawed on the
reporters questions.. he was lying thru his teeth. He knows his client
is up to his eyeballs in this mess…
Can’t LE pull phone records to tell who he was speaking to??
Does jan/Simon have a new article???
hi anna, lil
Anna - LE most likely has copies of the phone records by now…gotta go drive bus…be back around 9am
Yeah I am sure that LE will issue a subpoena for the phone records if they havn’t already.
stay warm c~a its -17 here wind chills even colder brrr…. cant find new article hmmm…
Morning Anna…
I am sooo confused..(nothin’ new) I have been posting on other blog…
thought the world was still asleep!!!
I am half asleep waiting on coffee to brew… Mornin Lilred amd Anna
Hopefully the week will just continue to bring us new news. When is the meter reader supposed to be on the news?
supposidly thers anew blog but i cant find it anywhere hmm…guess well just have to wait till more pep wake up!
Anna I have looked for one but can’t find it!!!
we can stay here or go to the other one with less posts, its up to you!
usually the new ones will be a young and restless blog that jan writes also but thier not there either hmm…
hmmm sometimes it takes awhile before the new one shows up too.
i mailed pickles to let her know were lost so shell come get us when she wakes up
lol
To find out if there is a new article go to the home page of bloggernews.net and scroll down for titles of articles. If there is a new one it will be the first Caylee related article you see.
I do not think there has been a new article posted since this one. And this is the one everyone was posting on last night. So maybe it’s a good idea to stay here until more people are around and then decide if we should move to an older article that’s not so filled up.
good morn every one wind chill here - 21 wind chill 29… weather report, lol
Any thing new except for what Nancy grace reported last night?
on the other blog it said they moved i typed in what they said but nothin came up so good idea to just wait someone will come here
SPODIE.. your 10:21(ish) post last night.
I know what you mean.. my tummy was lurching as I watched him
jam that pole into the ground. Imagine if he has hit Caylee. If he
had, he should be charged with tampering with evidence..
I wish I knew WTH or WTF was going thru his mind as he smashed
up what could have been the crime scene.. it was horrible to watch.
I think the ants are in big trouble because of this video.. I hope so.
nana of 2 where you at??? its -17 here
oops sry minus 21 wind 29 still asleep lol
gm anna , i’m in N.B
One thing I would like to bring up because I am suspicious of the defense and know their evil tricks. I am betting that they were trying to prove with that video it wasn’t all wet in that area. (although they were a good 150-200ft from where the remains were found) Then probably were gonna try to bring up LE incompetence.
BUT LE does have the upper hand if Dominic Casey was on the phone with Leevil.
wish theyd get his phone records, he tried to say he was talking to a pycic but his story changed…go figure…seems anyone connected with the ants has a problem with the truth, maybee send them a diconary with the word truth underlined so they know what it means!!!
Dang ladies.. Anna and Nanna of 2… it is freezing where you guys
are…BRRRRRRR. Where do you live??
we have a 2 hr late wind is -25 to-30 so far brr….im in mn
anna - they moved to HERE early yesterday!
When you were on the other blog, look at the last couple of posts. The last one was yesterday afternoon. So that tells you that it is not the latest one that everyone was using.
Now scroll up on this blog and see that the last post last night was Goldie at 12:01 am.
So that’s a clue that this is the blog that has most recently been used.
Always a good idea when you get on a blog to scroll back a little and check the date and time and see if there is a comment about moving. If not, then this is where we are until something changes.
Oh and I bet Leevil will be going bald soon because he knows his goose is cooked for charges against him.
im so glad that pi didnt find her no telling what would have happened…probably destroyed so much evedince im wondering about the blanket he tossed aside if it coulda belonged to caylee
anna and lilred please see my 7:26 am and 7:35 am posts. They will help you.
Shan… I agree with you… I still think he was on the phone with LV…
Somehow LV is in deep doodoo and his atty knows it. His atty is not very good at lying. If you watch that video that Gracie told us about.. lv atty looks like a deer caught in headlights.. DAHH HUH?? What tape?? nope, haven’t seen the tape b4 yesterday…duhhh… MY BUTT
funny m2c i saw pickles last post at 4:44pm not awake thought it was am thought it was a little late for her…boy do i feel silly thanks m2c how you so wide awake i havent had my gallon of coffie yet!:)
no wonder i couldnt find the new blog was there allready!:)
even lv att is changing his story…how do you not know if you watched the vidio or not…he did and he got caught!!!!
garbage bags in the woods ? some people do that here too, we have (garbage pick up ) all waste go to Dump,
wonder who he was talking to? had to be cindy or george ,, casey wouldn’t be allowed to use phone in Jail?
he seemed to be in a panic , cutting open G bags ,
he was certainly looking for something,I have said this from the begining C&G knew where the body was ,they were waiting for police & searchers to give up
m2c sometimes when these get filled people will move to yr untill new blog thats what i thought funny!
A helpful correction for my 7:26 post - “To find out if there is a new article go to the home page of bloggernews.net, CLICK ON REFRESH, and then scroll down for titles of articles. The first Caylee related article you see will be the most recent.”
GOLDI.. your post last night about the mustang
That was a real touching story.. life is very unpredictable..
Also, have you posted on another blog? I was blog hopping and
thought I saw your name??
He, Lilred, I am actually HERE. As far as we know Goldi isn’t. So how about letting me know if you saw my last couple of posts (3) that I wrote to help you and anna?
thats why they kept up with the caylee sightings in other states, i think it was lv on the phone or maybee someone from bb office, still dont understand how they could not stand up to m seems they just took her side come hell or high water and forgot the most important person caylee she should have been the main concern from the start and they should have wanted the truth no matter how hard it is…
Good monring nanna of 2~ Right! The ants weren’t just waiting for everyone to give up they were working hard to discourage anyone from LOOKING at all! Everyone but their own PI it seems!
hi Lilred its very cold up here ,yes, we will be seeing this until the end of march, it begins the end of Oct , about 6 months of it ,, we are use to it , hahaha I really dont like hot weather ,, I am located in N.B Canada
i dont think ive ever seen such a family, such regard for the law i hope le has enough evedince they dont need thier testimony i dont think theyd be truthfull anyway, if anyone ever needed to be charged with obstruction they do…anyone know how much time that carries??? then they couldnt make any $$$ off caylee either wich im sure they are counting on!!disquesting !!! (im such a bad speller and dont want to take the x for spell x sorry)
MTC your posts are very helpful
I think everyone is on the right track now!
media @10:26 if that rod was used to find burried bodies kinda blows away his story about just checking out the site its pretty clear he was looking for her!
Morning M2C!!! just got a new computer.. can’t figure out how to refresh.. dhhh..
Yes, I agree with both your posts.. we should stay here… at least I know where you and I are!!!
AHA.. found the refresh button.
Are you here M2C???
good morn mytwocents , yep have you noticed they wernt grieving ? they knew that baby was dead .
& I have a feeling G&C knew where the bag was
as we use to say when we were kids (pretty sneaky )
M2C.. I have to agree with Shan, you always seem to know what is
going on!!! COOL BEANS
M2C,, I think I will just follow you!!!!
nanna - another canadian eh! I’m in ONtario. Is the interview with KRONK available yet, i went to good morning america and didnt see it…is anyone watchin?
CALLING M2C.. M2C IF YOU ARE OUT THERE PICK UP!!!!!
Just trying to help and keep the “flock” together until we find out where to go from here. Don’t follow me. Imight not be here.
Wait until someone else comes on and the group decides to move. The rest of us will follow if the right bread crumbs are left behind - like article number and title.
good morn C~A yep another Canadian freezing our butts eh? hahahaha, how are you ? one of my sons was born in T.O in /68
ok I’m going to write some thing on here concerning the murder of Caylee, ok so I may be a while not a fast typist,
M2C you sure you don’t want to be the white rabbit?? LOL
‘twiddling thumbs.. waiting’
the ants are considering cremation…they are worried someone might dig her grave up to make money…they are so worried about someone making $$$ but wernt to concerned in the truth of what really happened to her, and i do believe some sickoo would do that but they should have had concern way b4 this
Lilred, I have not heard that this blog is slowing down for anyone yet which is the reason we usually move. So that’s why I have not suggested it.
TO THE FREEZING CANADIANS..
EEKS.. I am glad it is not that cold here!!! But have heard Canada is
beautiful!
anyway… when the bread crumbs start falling, someone please let me know!!!
BBL have a Drs. appt today(YEA!!!) wish me luck..
anna - it amazes me that the ONLY concerns we’ve heard from the ants are about who is making money on this!! $$$$ are their only concern! Not that their granddaughter is lying in pieces in a cardboard box somewhere. NOT that their daughter murdered her. It is inexplicable to me. But then, they have seemed a lot like “aliens” to me since the beginning of this. (Hence my Planet of the Apes analogies)
m2c i agree..thats the only thing they seem to be worried about from the start$$$$ sickning, personally that would have been the last thing on my mind i dont think i would have even thought about that
gma is on now with roy kronk!! see what he has to say!!!
anna - Maybe I don’t appreciate how grisly and awful some people can be but it seems to me that there is little or no chance of anyone wanting to mess with little Caylee’s grave.
I think it’s a whole lot more possible that there are a number of people who would like to see M, C, G and Leevil IN their own grave.
If I was an ant, that’s what I’d be concerned about.
accually i think someone might want to try and make something, rember in the old days people digging graves up to steal jewlry off the corpse…someone imo would try something, look how unimaginable the ants turned out and yes i think pep would want to see all the ants in thier own but you forgot bb to hes as sleasy and $$$ hungry as the ants!
Good morning all..
the latest developments…
wow and more wow… the video tape,..i can only assume that casey was talking and led to the scene, poking and prodding… and that he was in fact tipped off, as well now as kronk, of course he was too… and heard kronk was alos in the are in november ( according to paddy)… its a big ole mess.. and someone is in some SH**.. i just don;t know who
i think its safe to assume now that all on the defense side knew the baby was dead and the whereabouts…i am even sure baez knew too…for whatever reasons this tape was made ( to go to trial with) as a ruse or whatever or because the public was crying for the body to be found…anyways its all a big mess and i hope this doesn’t result in mis -trial…
well kronk didnt say much new except he was just suspicious of the spot he said the smell of the swamp would cover up the smell of a body so he thougt it would make a good spot!! he was also a bounty hunter…man of many hats
were coming out of our big blizzard here, but its been cold and snowing…
i just found the whole tape thing crazy, i don’t even know what to make of it
whats your thoughts?
anna?
yah since my own thoughts are all confused on it, I read in here to see what all you guys think lol
cause me thinks its a mess..
C-A when i was here yesterday i had to leave cause i had company pop in, thats why i never came back i did see you reply to me and then the doorbell rang, i wasn’t treating you like liver, liver is for CHSAH LMAO.. your not liver…
i enjoy reading all your posts…:)
im not sure thinking they were trying to find her b4 le and maybee m trial so her case would be better maybee hide her till after trial??? he was definatly looking with that prod i heard it was a special kind of one to find bodies whats the chance your just gonna go for a quick look with one of thoes?
Maybe Casey was secretly drugging her family members, too — making them off balance.
I have decided not to write what I had to say
as far as I’m concerned , they Have covered Caseys A$$ and and will continue to do it ,
so be it I’m sure the police have all they need to convict all of them in the cover-up the P.I Those guys with the camera ,
also waiting to hear what Kronk has to say ,,,
a note: Yeah its cold up here and I love it, oops need to put wood in my stove …going out later need my Fake fur on
Sorry to butt in, but I was looking at all your comments and I pretty much agree with all of you - it’s all so obvious. One question I have, is it possible this PI is looking for attention/advertising and just changed the date on his camera and shot this in the general area that Caylee was found? I have seen so many sick publicity stunts in this case I was just wondering what you experts think of this. I mean the date and time is so blatant in the video - what is he trying to prove?
yah and then this gale lady comes into the picture, lol so that puts others at the crime scene as well, what concerned me was one atty on NG saying the man casey may have disturbed the crime scene by poking around.. what a mess…. can u believe so many players when ultimately it is one who did this henious crime and for the rest of this to be going on over this baby is sinful…
everyone involved needs to be dragged into LE office all of them paddy included and all of them questioned to find out the dam truth..
What’s puzzled me is why Dominic had his search videotaped. And the only reason I can come up with is to be able to show the area to someone else. Someone who could not afford to be seen IN the area. Show the tape to them (C, G and/or Leevil - not possible to show it to M unless BB snuck it in on his laptop somehow) in order to find out if they saw anything of Caylee’s or M’s on the tape!!! But now that doesn’t seem right either since all Dominic did when he found a blanket was throw it out of his way. So maybe Dominic was HOPING he’d find the remains and could blackmail the ants with it or sell the tape.
I can’t think of any other purpose at all. He sure wasn’t interested in “preserving” any evidence. He was damaging and moving everything he touched.
Good post earlier about having this horrible story made into a documentary with subtitles to keep the macabre cast of characters clear. Not only two Tony’s: two Caseys! Imagine! Before this story broke, the only Casey I knew of was the one in the song about Casey Jones Working on the Railroad!
On the tape the PI was acting like an animal and he was searching for something specific in those garbage bags thats for sure!
i for one an getting alittle sick of the whole drama… because of the mess now… i think the trial will help maybe to put it all into a prospective but for right now its to confusing for me.. again i think they all need to be dragged into le.. the psychic, the ants the P I’s . defense team etc.
Anybody can change the date on a video camera; I receive faxes all the time with the wrong date stamp on them … but that is not intentional or malignent, just sloppy. I wonder if forensics can date the video to the correct date it was created?
Its becoming this peyton place little nightly drama on tv, and all over a poor dead little girl… all involved should be ashamed over this, for whatever their involvment, and to me there isn’t any reason any of these people should have been near this crime scene way before body was found so this is a real mess… i dont think, howver, prosecution gives a dam, because they feel they ahve enough to convict this B**** , so i think that why all is quiet, the others need to be asked questions, and answers need to be given… i dont know when kronk is doing an interview? but hes suspicious to me too, esep, when i heard now in november he was at the crime scene too…
Well if he changed the date on the camera LE would be able to tell with their resources. Its not hard to figure out the time stamp on the video if it was changed recently or if it was indeed on that day.
the rod the pi is using is a forensic rod especially used to find bodies media@10:16 guess it was on grreta..never wach that show didnt even wach ng till this case
Interested in PR -You’re not butting in! You are very welcome here. As you can see from my post above I have no idea what that PI thought he was doing or why. I sure hope LE figures it out and I hope the PI (Dominic) loses his license and goes to jail for it. I guess the only thing I do think is that he was up to no good.
XO Xcetera:
I agree. I’d like to imagine all them in a room with a big glaring light in their eyes, hooked up to a polygraph, being grilled! Every last one of them INCLUDING the LAWYERS!!!
wonder if they will release toxicology or if we will have to wait till trial…im sure there has to be sighns of drug use in caylees hair, i dont think this was the first time!!!
The way I see it the Anthony family can keep whining for immunity or they can fess up to all they know and maybe get a lighter sentence. Because I doubt at this point that LE will give them immunity.
I predict LE will release some info on what they know of the tape this week or other info.
wonder if theyd be able to come up with one story then.. it kinda be funny to see
Good Morning..y’all wussup…
I don’t think they could check the real date unless he put the video on a computer - Once you put in a date in your camera there is no internal clock - it’s what you feed it. If the video was put on a computer or sent by e-mail then you could track the REAL time.
Publicity seeker is all he is.
gee do people ever grow up ?? a 47 and 57 yr old busted for meth???
morning pic~looked at your post on other blog saw wrong time am instead of pm so were not lost
yes I also agree OXOXOXOX who was shooting videotaping ?) the guy who was cutting garbage bags open , and digging in the soil with a garden scoop? these guys are going to have to stand trial ? no? obvious they were looking for something, we all know this, so therefore some-one in the Anthony family Told them where to look , so there for the only one who knew ,is that (thing) in jail & in the mean time making fools of Law Enforcement & Investigators & searchers , so therefore anthonys already knew where to look ,, so therefore they need to be prosecuted for with holding information Padilla SHOULD be questioned under oath … or brought to trial for questioning as a witness
What a bunch of liars and creeps - they should all be put in jail and they could sit around and tell each other lies until the end of their days.
they all need to be in jail!!!! how could a whole family say they love caylee and not stand up for her and pull all these stunts???
Hoover was video taping and Detective Casey was the one looking through the bags and etc on the tape.
They could always sink up who he was talk to on the phone with the date and time on the video tape to see if it matches up.
There is no new article yet
They all are liars and creeps they suck a$$
Pickles- WERD!
mtc yah i think it is needed for them all to be pulled in, however, were not hearing much from LE? or prosecution, i think its cause its all unfolding everyday and maybe their also trying to figure it all out… we’ll see, but i think questioning is in order, you know it makes me think when your in trouble go grab a lawyer and your safe.. almost like the defendants have more rights than the victims
ALL HAIL JAN AND SIMON bringer of new blogs…with out them we are NOTHING a shapeless void with no voice, with no forum to Xpress our love for Caylee and our hatred for her family…AHHHH JAN AND SIMON….AHHHHHHHH
Jan your eyes are amazing today…and your hair lovely…Simon you are looking rather dashing this fine day I must say!!!
becuase of the sensitivity of this case, a little girlwas MURDERED…i think answers need to be given esp to the crime scene part…thats for sure….did anyone else catch on NG last night the telecommunications expert saying HE believed wire tapping had been done and perhaps the leaks were done under the wire taps… NG never said anything further to him about that what he said maybe cause it was his own opinion, but maybe she didnt want to also talk of wire tapping.. cuase wire tapping is something we would never know about or maybe should know about. but i did find that VERY interesting
the 2 days a week will be awesome of only 5 hours… more time at home with my girl
AWESOME XOX…thats cool sh~..fur real doh…wow…IM xcited…yaaay…bw00p bw00p dats duh sheeot right der G !!
So its possible that the ants have been tappd this hole time?
Anna…I saw joooh all wer lost …
Awesome XOX!
You know on the subject of jobs/careers, SINdy gives nurses a bad name and I am going to school next year to become a nurse. So to see her so obviously lying through her teeth about pizza etc. Shame on her!
Anna none of them truelly luv Caylee is all jus an act..alls they are truelly out fur is tew save ther own skin….ther own self rightous acts of salvation is what they are aiming fur
Hey Shan!!!
And I dunt mean tappd in a good way eithr
I wasn’t lost I was tired lol haha but MTC came through and helped
Hows your little ones? (everyone in general, I like hearing about the wee ones
lightens the topic up)
Yappers…I am going to nursing skewl too this year..and I hope to not evr learn the same stuff DC did
My wee wones are great….bead is out ther is skewl tewday!!
good for you shan… i also play with the idea of nursing school cause in direct care, I am already doing nursing work, prob is no time to go, and work and see my daughter
alot of girls i work with like 5 of them just quit to go to either CNA training or nurs school…once you get into nursing its a great occupation and the money is certainly there…
i dont know about cindy being a nurse.. I mean rarely have i met too many nasty nurses lol thank heavens.. to think she was a nurse, yah is surprising, do we know what kind of nurse she was?
before (thingy) was arrested …
being at home, she spilled the beans ,
lied to police..gave the big story about the Nanny & all her employers Ha!
parents(grand Parents )
OMG you could read it all over Cindy & george when they were beating off protestors ,,,guilty of knowing the where abouts og Caylee Yes !!! hand them a date to be in court as a witness drill them really good,
BUT I swear they will lie under oath , because they are pathalogical liars that Lee the brother love to slap that thing mr KNOW it all, doesn’t know shit from putty
if they were to have a poly,, the Machine will explode ,
hope little caylees remains will be placed in a little white or pink coffin along with her favorite toys that was left in her room , love her …
who the heck would give m money in jail??? sick people i suppose they support child killers!!! there is no evedince to point to anyone else i dont care what the defence says…and they havent told the story were gonna go ahhh now i understand… its all bs imo!!!
So glad to hear she doesn’t have a bead in her nose Pickles! I dread the day my son does anything like that and I wont put it past him to do it lol.
Ugh can you imagine Cindy Krugger as your nurse? I wonder what her colleagues think of her now?
My MIL was a CNA for years until she got breast cancer/diabetes then went to get her current job as an Activities director at the same old folks home she works for now.
First I gots to do the regular cna course then up to the rn then further on if I choose…I just wunt tew work in a hospital eventually..jah
One thing that sticks out that they knew was when G said that the dead body in the back of his daughters car is not his grand daughter…uhhh who else did your daughter kill?
Then Cindy saying Caylee wasn’t in the woods and wasn’t here and there but importantly she said the woods for like no reason!
Anna I cant imagine whois givng that bimbo money for cripes sakes why why give her money..unless they see a Aileen Wornos story in this..be friend the hoe now so when she gets fried yew can make $cheese$$ off sellng yur story
Yah so whois it in the trunk of the car if it wasnt Caylee whois dead body wus it yew fargn moron!
Back in Medford Oregon the best state ever lol, there’s a hospital that is always looking for new nurses and pay well. And they help cover for your schooling so I am like score! Hoping to be able to enroll their program.
funny we was lost in the right spot…like a dog chasing his tail
I know anna…pisses me off too. I have a friend in jail that I put money into her account. Ike really messed up my finances so for about 2 months I couldn’t put in crap. Felt so bad for her…wish someone had stuck a camera in her mug and made some sickos feel sorry for her so maybe she could have bought some noodles then.
She might have gotten even more dough too since she’s not a baby killer.
In the end their words will bite them in the @$$.
how many people have decomposition in thier trunk??? no one ive ever met and the hair was definatly caylees not a coincidence!!!
Shan thats called Methford now…METH ford….its full of junkie tweekers..didjah read the story bout the dooder who hit his daughters ankle with a hammer just to get the pain pills…frum the hospital?
Usually people who cannot except that mother could do this and believe the production the defense plays are the ones giving her money
Uh oh we woke up the Fish!!! We didn mean tuh tap on jer tank so loud!!
Shan said,
in January 13th, 2009 at 9:34 am
One thing that sticks out that they knew was when G said that the dead body in the back of his daughters car is not his grand daughter…uhhh who else did your daughter kill?
Then Cindy saying Caylee wasn’t in the woods and wasn’t here and there but importantly she said the woods for like no reason!
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Shan don’t you know it was them pizza loving suicidal squirrels who couldn’t resist getting into Wunder-Snatches car and end up and dying in there??? Come on that makes sense doesn’t it??? I mean who hasn’t had a squirrel or two sneak into their car lately??? They are really devious critters!!!
Hmmmm devious critters…seems to be a bunch of devious critters in the ant’s neck of the woods in the past 8 months.
no excese for m she had a family no matter how disfunctional they were that would have taken caylee also friends wanted her, sad a mother so jelous of thier daughter she would kill her!
I know its called that depends on where you live in Medford, I grew up there and the only tweakers you would find were usually in the boonies or on the wrong side of town.
Shan….I hear joooh….now Medford is soo bad..I hate it I grew up in Hillsboro and its like waay bad out here now…I hate it..thats why I live in the country out by all the farms…I know its around but alls I see is fields and sky nothing more…mud dirt and more mud…yeehaww..naww..just kiddng..but I know ORegon has gone to meth in a hand basket I LOVE Medford during the summer…blue skies and the heat…ooh buddy…red hair loves the Medford sun!!
Its like that everywhere now….before it was only in the boonies or on the wrong side of town NOW…now its infestd and infectd everywhere
Yeah def. going to live the country I miss having ATV’s and lots of land for fun.
I hate meth….its put 3 of muh cuzns in state care,my aunt in a perma tweekd mind state..she cant stop touching her face with her elbows.
This just struck me on the video. NG and the sort keep saying that the FBI and investigators have the video and are ‘looking into it’ without really saying that they are looking into it as being directly related to the investigation to the baby killr.
That to me says…separate investigation /investigators. Separate charges. Either the PIs or Leevil is goooinngg to jaaaiiill.
None of them will fare well there. I hear them squealing like pigs already.
Ick so far no one in my family or friends have touched the stuff. So thats good.
Shan! That’s great! I wish you the very best! I think nursing is one of the MOST important and professions there is. I wish I had the talent and ability. But my cousin is a nurse - a really good one - and I’m so proud of her!
Please let us know how it goes, okay? I’ll keep my fingers crossed for you!
xoxo~ i heard that about wire taping, does that mean like phones and stuff???
Don’t hate the drugs Pickles. Hate the people that peddle the poison. When it comes to drug dealers it is one instance where you can definately hate the messenger for the message.
Ahhh…love the mud..My mom is like a couture kind of gal…heels and dresses she gets so frustrated with me..because I go shoppng wiff her and she wunts me to buy nice clothes and stuff..naww..I always end up with a nice snugg girly tee and some jeans…she be all wont yew just once buy heels and a dress…heck no lady….
I hate the dealers….but I hate the drugs…I am not better than a druggie I am better than the drug…
one more thing … some of you may not agree with me,
Kronk … is a Krock of shit,
I think he is guilty of knowing prior to the time he called 911 3 times in August , that the remains were there,BUT didn’t know exactly where ??? why would he say something looks suspicious , if I see a Garbage bag on the side of the rd or in a wooded area, am I going to call police and say ‘I see something suspicious? unless I was out to find something, such as a decomposing body, he didn’t open up the bag, fearing what he might see , too sicking to him… he had to have known he was in the right area ,
BUT on Dec the 11th 2008 , someone made sure he hit the right spot, I think someone told him in August , I think he is in on it with those other two & that Padilla wants a piece of it too… tell me if I’m right
Yes Anna they mentiond wire tappng on NG last nite maybe the ants have been tappd? Wow..
Nanna…yew wunt tuh kno whut I think is not so up and up bout Kronk now…his boss tippd the ants off that the body wus there. His supervisr boss dooder the neighborino to the ant cave..thats sum shady sh~
I dunt kno if he is guilty of any wrong doing but IF he told his super and the super told the ants thats messd up..
didnt the ants have some pi comeover with something that could detect bugs and stuff..right after m got indicted?
If the ants were tapped the warrants would have already leaked. You need a warrant to do that.
They were saying that perhaps the media might have bugged the house. I find that unlikely though. The ant’s are paranoid…can’t see anyone sneaking in there with enough time to bug them.
they all seem suspicious to me to many coincedinces in this case!
when it was reported on the 911 call someone said ,& it was NOT Kronk “we Found a skull? his boss or someone,?
they didnt say we found a garbage bag containing a skull , but this bag apparently was not in the same place as the bags he reported suspicious in AUG ???? confusing gotta go for the Day check in Later .
bye now. But will wait a few minutes for a response thank you
Hey, Pickles! You’re going to train to be a nurse! Whooopeee! Good for you! You’ll be terrific! I can imagine you’ll be the kind that will stick a bead up the nose of any arrogant a-hole doctor AND not take any guff from recalcitrant patients (”Get up you lazy old biddy! You CAN walk!!!”) And you’ll be as kind as can be to the truly ill people.
The medical profession will be lucky to have you and Shan join the ranks! Now I just have to figure out how to ship myself out there when I get sick so you can take care of me! LOL!
They think the media buggd ther house..are you serious…ok..thats the fargn stoopidst sh~ I have heard them say yet…thats supposedly the reason killr wudnt talk at the house..she was afraid it wus tappd…and so she had to go smoke pole at bb’s office all day while on house arrest.
Nanna..that is I am beginnning to question Kronk and his supervisor’s involvment now..
Mytwocents…Id love to care for joooh dahlng.
Nanna I dont have much of a response xcept THATS SUM SHADY SH~~ RIGHT THER.
gotta go start and clean snow off car…keep trying to get daughter to do it but no way…to darn cold hope locks arent froze…..
well…just watching it snow some more, starts and stops..
my wee one is un lets see, she has 20 my little ponies all over the living room floor… so i had to vacuum going around them she said not to knock them over lol, and this is in between her tiny other mc’ds dogs and toys also set up doing things.. so we have litle groups of these people on the floor..
and yes i moved all the furniture back yesterday after getting some brain attack to re-arrange.. i feel so much better now…:)
Nanna:
Yes Kronk made several reports of suspicious debris in the area. The police responded, but several times he had left the scene and the time he did stay there and wait for the police there was still standing water and the police could only look so far into the woods.
The times he had left the scene I can understand the police not stopping to look. Standard proceedure…no complaintant / victim = crank call waste of manpower. The time there was standing water? Well if they didn’t see a body or something suspicious then the police would have to business hanging around a swamp you know?
Manson in a miniskirt knew the area she dumped the body off well. She knew that people who did go there threw out trash and stuff all the time (aka stoner kids partying) and that during storm season it flooded. She knew she was buying a lot of time and that quite possibly eventually the poor baby’s bones might just wash away or be carted off by animals. Twisted bitch is more than just a baby killer…she is a methodical psycho. Glad she got caught…the way she seems to throw that cootch around she would have been preggo again sooner or later. Imagine how many poor kiddos would ‘accidentally fall off the table while changing’ or ‘drown in the kiddie pool’ in this wunder-snatches care????
Bitch should get the DP. Little warning shot to all the child abusers / killers out there.
I am soooo spoiled rotten i am having a friend bring me and her mcdonalds breakfast
they were already out and by my house, I said you bring me my food and I buy you something too lol works everytime
hi Pickles ,
there are times I understand your English & there are times I dont , guess we didn’t go to the school , lol , in you 9:55am posting,
not sure what you are saying , lol.
any way ,,
IT will all come out in the( Wash) water under the bridge ,,,,
BTW-goldie-
I did read your long post yesterday on your whole take on this case, I found it sooo true and very interesting on how you see this happened….
i had to agree with alot of it.. (except lee being daddy) still having a hard time with that one
I too think kronk= crook
do we know when hes doing interview today?
Nanna…sorry…sometimes the old same old same old proper english gets boring to me
Do you want to know what I think is not so on the up and up with Kronk….his supervisor the neighbor to the ant cave supposedly tipped the ants off to the body possibly being there..
Hey XOX…yes it seems Kronk is lookng a wee bit shady….I may be washng yur feet wit my toofbrush
KRONK is KREEPY suspicious…
now that i heard him being there in nov.. OH YAH… yah
did he get a reward yet?
Boy Nanna you should of seen my grammer a few weeks ago…when I absolutaly refused to speak in proper english and grammer…actually up until a few weeks ago..the same ol black and white type is lack luster so I like to make my own english/spelling I like to find different ways to spell
Someone said he took pics of the dump site…thats not so cool either
its funny cause (never having blogged before) from day one i could always understand pickles posts lol i always knew what words meant what or what was abbreviated.. maybe me and you pickles our brains think alike
I think Kronk was being fed info too XOX but that in itself is not a crime. If he was being fed info then he’s a pretty sleezy character. It’s one thing to not have time to hang around and wait for the cops because you think something looks ‘hinky’…it is another thing to know for a fact that a child’s body is out somewhere and you don’t tell someone in LE:
LOOK IT IS RIGHT HERE!
Then again he could have been getting vague info and just like everyone else just plain couldn’t actually find the body just like other people who went in that general area. That’s my less suspicious take on it.
But my gut feeling tells me he is not on the level and I think that LE thinks so as well or else the City might have had a ceremony or something to give Kronk a big pat on the back and thank you. LE investegated him and found nothing criminal about him…but they aren’t exactly holding hands with him either. They know he didn’t do anything illegal but they also know he is not on the level either.
I have always thought that Lee was the father of Caylee. No good reason, just a hunch.
The whole family mystified me in their video-tapes. The way they referred to Caylee as “that little girl” always disturbed me. I have a grandson and can’t imagine ever referring to him as “that little boy”.
Lee and Casey going over their list of priorities in terms of who came first was surreal. The guarded communication between them all was about more that being video-taped. It was probably the norm for a family with despicable secrets.
I also found it entirely strange that they kept mentioning how Caylee was a “mistake”. Had that little girl been found alive she would have one day seen all that. What a terrible way to talk about a child. Many children are unplanned but none of them are mistakes. What a terrible way to view this gift…
maybe it comes from years of using shorthand
does anyone use shorthand anymore? lol i won an award in school for excellence in shorthand so i supposes thats why i get pickles posts
grammys heart-
me too i always found it ood saying ‘that little girl” now maybe some use diff lingo but i have rarely heard people say it like that.
agree goldie–
you would think something like a tribute to the man kronk from the city for finding the body, so is it true kronk cannot be in trouble even if he got tipped off ? think i heard that on NG
XOX waht jooh talkng bout? Jooh been able tew undrstnd my skeels behnd the keyboard!!
lol
always missy i could always understand from the minute you came on and I use to chuckle at you, then you left for awhile and i said wheres that funny girl bumponapickle lol
back when my girl played in hot tar and kicked it all over the backseat of my car
do you remember? someone came on and said you all need to get a life lol you got all huffy and left but then you came back to us
cause caylee brought you back
i think i now who that was that said it… too funny…
Pickles: I’ve been reading this blog for a few months. There were many times I just skipped over your posts because I had no idea what you were saying!!
Although it may be boring to use standard English, it certainly helps the flow of communication, especially on a blog like this.
And I quite enjoy what you, and everyone here for that matter, has to say.
I know, my age is showing. lol
I remember the hot tar XOX…Paint thinner removes that gunk..I remember it…yappers Caylee brought me back
Grammy’s heart…yapp its much easier for everyone to read proper english..I got you!!! But I am who I am and my writing style is what it is…but nine cats tails under a rocker jah know…
You remember when the hurricanes were hitting Texas and Tex literally was running out of her house with her belongings….she said she could hear the wind and the rain..I was like way worried about her.
I didnt get all huffy and leave because that stupid poster back then…the kids got sick and I had intr0n3t issues.
it would take me too long to learn how to shorten that way lol i type like a 100 miles a minute and make lots of typos… to try to shorten this would take effort lol
i still laugh at the WERD makes me think of the 80’s… lol
ugh i feel sick again i dont know if I am just overly heating my house or I be sick but nonetheless i am sweating, yep a big sweathog…better turn down the heat this cold weather is killing my gas bill
Dood XOX I am a sweaty betty…fur real doh….I sweat non stop…Sweaty betty..over hear YO
ok bbiab
i know only teasing i meant you left for awhile and we missed you, thats was like WAY early on in this case, just a few weeks, i said wheres that bump girl, everyone kept asking about JOO… lol
whew…kids to school, walks shoveled!!! the poor matinence guy has to shovel all are walks, i usually do mine and neighbors a little help, i always bring him in fo hot coca or coffie..today he asked if i had something else to put in that no money or id get him something…funny thing if xtr was in i dont hink hed care about getting walks shoveled…hes a nice guy:)
I know XOX I lit that person up for talking trash like that to us…all of them whenever they came in spewing there hatred for us..watch out..I got pissed off!!
Hey Anna
Ok i got to jet…bb
yes i remember ges that was like way back in august or something maybe july… its hard to imagine we’ve been here blogging this long… i dont even recall how i found bbn.. just stumbled on it.. all been good ever since.
ok thats it going to take a hot bath, see if that helps i am sweaty and hope I ain’t gettin sick again blah and i have to work today
Good Morning All!!!
Okay, here’s my question. Due to the fact that Dominick use to work for Baez and he was the one poking around at the crime scene. Can Baez scream “mis-trial”??? It’s his side making all the mistakes. Not the State’s side.
i wouldnt put anything past bb..i think they only care about possible movie and book deals anyway..
but wouldnt that make the sefence look more guilty after all le wasnt poking around there hm..
PAW69…The whole thing is so muddy. Why did Baez hire Dom Casey? How long did Casey work for Baez? When did he get “hired” by the Ant’s? was he looking for a “live” Caylee as the Ant’s insisted?
Why would a PI’s involvement cause a mistrial? Is there any way that Baez recommended DC to the Ant’s with the intention of creating a legal loophole?
Sorry to respond to you with more questions!
Sorry back now lol I have a very defiant boy, he is inching into some terrible two’s I think oy vay! He is napping now so I get some free time.
I am not sure about Kronk it makes my head spin to think there would be something wrong with all of the people involved in this case somehow… Man its a circus!
BUT, no one found the remains. Only Kronk found the remains. I guess until we know the full story about Kronk and the supervisor, it’s another mystery. If Kronk’s Supervisor really did tip off the Ants, Then the supervisor may be in hot water. BUT, at the same time, if Casey told someone straight out and no one knew about Kronk, Then yeah, ughhhh.
about kronk i also heard he too pic and was trying to sell them!!! doesnt anyone care this was a living breathing child??? not wanting anything from anyone but love!!!! it makes me sad to think all anyone involved with this case wants $$$$! and caylee sits in a box in cold storage!!!
I havn’t heard he had a pic of the remains or anything, just a licensing fee was paid by GMA for a pic but no specifics if it was of him or what.
i didnt hear about the supervisor tipping off the ants…is that fact or speculation???? sorry somtimes my girl is talking or wanting me to watch/do something so i miss alot!
Anna, I have to wonder if that is a lie someone put out there about Kronk to take the focus off the truth about this situation.
what a sick circus!!!
There can’t be a mistrial until there is a trial. During the trial the judge will help decide what is admissable and what is not. And during the trial both the defense and state will argue what should be brought in as evidence and what shouldn’t. Judge will decide. Until then we won’t know if anything about anyone will or won’t be mentioned by either side.
In the meantime it’s possible that these “sideshows” could result in separate charges and trials - which would not necessarily eliminate the individuals or actions from M’s trial.
Its pure speculation if the supervisor tipped off the Ants cuz he is one of their neighbors.
yea with this case you dont know who is telling the truth or not so many rumors and lies allready can only immagine how the trial will be with bb…weve allready seen him in court and he didnt seem to know what he was doing making unnessasary requests imo…all for show!
Anna the Supervisor part came from Padilla, So I’m not sure whether to believe that or not either. But Padilla did put that out there last night on NG. And like I said last night, I don’t know who to believe anymore. To me, it sounds like everyone who has been involved is just pissed off because Kronk found the remains and not them so they are telling lies to tear him apart. I just don’t know anymore. It’s a huge mess.
the only good think i ever saw about bb was the xmas gifts for underprivleged kids at first i thouht he just started it but it was last yr… doesnt change my opinion of him but its the only good thing hes done!
Good Kronk said his piece. Thank you for your good deed Mister Kreepy but if you really didn’t have anything to do with this rather than being the lucky (or unlucky) person to find Caylee’s remains then thank you and God bless but now please go away. If I hear any more yap from you or see your kreepy face on my TV again I will KNOW in my heart there is more to your ‘finding’ of Caylee.
The reason I brought up the mis-trial part is because Dominick was out there poking around and handling stuff without any gloves or anything, meaning “possible contamination”. Basically I’m trying to think like Baez would, anything to get Casey off.
paddy has alot of opinions and thyerys about this case i think he is po he didnt find her and get the pat on the back!!!
you got a point there paw..but i think they ahve enough evedince to point to m at least i hope!! bb will try anything
funny e1 involved is neighbors and the zenida gonzales name just 1 plain strange case…it could be easy if m knew how to tell the truth..ng also said that bb would be stupid not to ask for a plea deal but that would take m admitting she did it..no chance of that if they had a vidio of her doing it shed claim it was someone else!
Meanwhile, not a word about a funeral. Not a single word.
Everyone is still too self-involved to remember what this whole mess evolved from.
It’s just a hot new version of sex, lies and video-tape. I’m sure that actors and directors and writers are all falling over themselves trying to get in on it. Orlando lawyers must feel like they won the lottery.
And somewhere in Orlando, a child’s remains rest in a box, seemingly forgotten by those she loved.
Anna the evil wunder-twat is so messed up I think that she has even convinced herself that it didn’t happen. I think she has invented a world in baby killr la-la land where Caylee never even existed. I think within an hour of dumping off the poor kiddo the evil psycho bitch had pretty much forgotten she ever had a child.
We all should keep Caylee in mind because obviously her family never did. I want to see this child have her funeral and have her memory honored ASAP.
i for one will never forget about caylee i dont think anyone here will either, the way i look at it is weve become her family we seem to be the ones who care along with other people who never met this child….
I am waiting for Jose to put a Domino’s pizza guy on the stand as an expert on foul trunk smells….
By this point, I am sure the cops have traced all of M’s steps including purchases during June and July. I am wondering if they will produce evidence in the trial to show she never even purchased pizza during that time? Of course, I am sure she is not above stealing pizza or maybe she was doing a delivery guy on the side, but I am betting no supporting documentation as with the rest of her story. Never bought a thing for Caylee, just stuff for herself.
PAW at 11:18 - I understand. I fully expect BB to object to pretty much everything the state wants to bring in to evidence during the trial. He’ll argue that the remains could have been put there by anyone, moved and messed with by anyone, that anyone could have killed Caylee, that anyone could have put her body in M’s trunk without M knowing. He’s going to do all of that no matter what.
Dominic PI is just one of the tools BB will use as an excuse to discredit or toss out the finding of the remains and whatever evidence the remains provide.
There are specific and limited reasons to cause a mistrial - I don’t know what they all are but they have to be brought up during the trial. Nothing about the finding of the remains is cause for thinking there could be a mistrial so far. That’s because there is so much evidence from way before the remains were found to lead to M being charged. IMO. Finding the remains doesn’t and isn’t going to change that.
I keep seeing a jailvid clip of her telling G she never meant for any of this to happen. The statement itself tells me she did participate in some activity that she is acknowledging to G and is unhappy with the results (ending up in jail). So, I wonder what she did mean to happen? She must have had some kind of plan if she did all that research. What was the happy ending she was shooting for?
Thank You M2C. Thought I was losing my mind for a moment.
Golide at 11:26. I agree. When M was last in court she looked like “what does this have to do with me?”
I remember hearing her in the background on one of C’s 911 calls - when the 911 operator asked to speak to M, C turned to tell M and M said “What do they want to talk to me for?”
It’s unbelievable! I am sure she is mostly PO’d that people keep harping on about Caylee instead of letting M get on with her life. Damn kid is still getting in the way, you know?
Spacely, She didn’t mean to get caught. Her happy ending was suppose to be that no one would ever find Caylee and she would be able to walk.
the only thing is they have her texts when she was in the car with the smell…arent they the same x as her death?? claiming it to be squirrels
how m sat in court with no expression(except to gaze wantingly at bb) when they were talking about the bones and pic of her dead daughter is beyond me…
This might seem trivial, but it annoys me…. The Anthony’s lawyer, Conway, made another announcement about the Anthony’s “donating” all the toys from the makeshift memorial to children’s charities.
I mentioned this in an earlier post in December. Why try to portray them as being these benevolent benefactors to the underprivileged children of FL? They are not buying these gifts, they are not gifts from their own home. These toys, etc, do NOT belong to them. If people leaving these gifts wanted them to go to charities and not to Caylee’s memorial, I am sure they would do so on their own.
How do they have the right to take these items and do with them as they decide? Apparently, they don’t even have the right to bury this child after a month of her discovery. Why do they feel the right to take the toys left for her?
As I said, this might seem petty, but after all that has gone on in this case, it irks me that their attorney is trying to make them into generous contributors to charity. He made a point of saying how many older gifts were “left over” when the new ones THEY brought in were given out.
While I’m sure the kids are all enjoying the toys, etc that are being donated, it still bothers me.
Hey, charity begins at HOME, looks like they all failed in that capacity, doesn’t it?. Now, they try to redeem themselves in the public eye by making a show of these “donations”? Make your OWN donations, Mr & Mrs A. These toys are NOT your’s to give.
I was just thinking about the wire taps…and got wondering if it is possible that the PI’s had secretly set them up in hopes of learning enough to get rich off of this case. They seem sneaky enough.
OK.. so after my rant, I thought again about this donation thing.
It wouldn’t bother me at all if the town wanted to keep the area neat and picked up the toys, etc and brought them to children’s charities. I understand that all that stuff can’t stay on the side of the road for an indefinite period of time. Plus, children pass it on the way to school.
BUT..It just KILLS me the people who didn’t even cooperate with authorities to help convict their grandchild’s murderer are now wanting to be THANKED for giving what is left for that beautiful child.
Too little TOO late!
I forgot all that stuff regarding Kronk lately came from Padilla…well the stuff about the neighbors and him taking pix’s…
I agree Elaine. They are ‘generous’ when it comes to giving away what isn’t theirs. In the same way they are ‘generous’ stretching the truth.
In other words, they haven’t got any clue what generous means.
Pickles, I’m not so sure I can believe anything Padilla says anymore.
elaine - I feel the same. I could scream I’m so mad and disgusted with the ants. What Conway did not mention is that since the ants first “donated” what was not theirs and what was left on someone else’s property (site of the remains) at least TWO people have donated toys, had them placed at the site in Caylee’s honor for like a half an hour and then purposely had them donated to charities. Those people remained anonymous and THEY PAID for the toys!!
The ants are so low they have to stand on an extension ladder to see light from the sewer grate!
Of course she sat with no Xpression in court during the discussion regarding the autopsy photos..she sucks..she could care less about Caylee even the discussion of Caylee’s bones didnt faze her. Not a tear for the loss of life..nothing..
The only reason the donated that stuff was to get some sort of support..no one else was giving them words of goodwill so they preyed on the most down and out needy people they could to drum up kind words for there lop daughter and there own loser a~’s
elaine - if the toys are on private property I think we should ask LE to arrest the ants for stealing!
If the toys are on public property the charge might still hold. I’m not sure.
But I am convinced that the ants do NOT want any kind of memorial in honor of Caylee. NOTHING! So don’t count on any pretty little pink coffin or a grave stone or anything like that folks. The ants are going to try to destroy every sign of this child.
PAW69…copy that.
I have doubted Padilla since the night on NG when TM was saying Padilla came to him and asked him not to stop the search, saying “just image being able to hold the skull for the world to see”. I know it was something like that and Padilla denied saying that and made TM look real bad. TM wouldn’t lie about something that serious.
I think I heard on either Jane or NG that the body was 12 feet from the cement blocks. Where did that come from - K? M? Supervisor?
On http://www.youtube.com I think there are videos showing the ant’s house - their back yard/their paver blocks. If I have time, I will try to check there to see which one. Haven’t read these posts today yet, only maybe 5. Will try to.
Grateful there are many ways of checking everything - forensic, phone records, because I think the majority of people involved are not truth tellers. But they do have one common objective/agenda I think. OUT for THEMSELVES, ONLY! Caylee doesn’t seem to be the main focus now. MONEY HAS REPLACED HER!
Heck no they dont want any memorial for Caylee they want to forget about her…they want to forget she ever Xsisted…Xcept when they need her to do her service for them and there publice service to help families of missing children..yah okay…f~~’n losers.
whats this he went before a grand jury on charges of kidnapping , the charges were dropped no enough evdidents ? Kronk?
I have just finished reading, he had an interview on G,M.America , is anyone qualified to comfirm this , thanks where can i find out more ?
Kronk was helping a g/f move out of her ex-b/f’s house. I gather that the ex-b/f tried to claim he kidnapped the g/f. The g/f is probably why they didn’t have evidence to proceed.
“just image being able to hold the skull for the world to see”.
Thats messed up if Padilla said that…like for the whole world to see…come on have some tact you old goat.
Pickles, the sad part is, I can see Padilla saying that.
It was domestic in nature and the charges were ultimately dropped.
You know honestly I can to…and I honestly dont see Tim lying about something like that…Tim is a stand up guy with a real committment to finding ppl dead or alive and his organization is based on his own childs death..
exactly Pickles,,,,EXACTLY
I can see why Padiall would be upset and stir up POO….and all and be spitefull but to run his mouth wreckless and say very in considerate things like that about holding up the skull for the world to see thats just ignorant…makes me like him less then I all ready had found the nerve to tolerate him with.
The sludge of shite just keeps gettng thickr and thickr…fur real.
He also lied when he tried to say that the LE already had her body, when they didn’t. I believe he said that a week or so before Kronk found the remains.
IGNORANT…an old ignorant white man is what he is…first he got the skank out of jail..then he searched a river that bare no meaning to the case then he continuesly runs his mouth rampid like POO from a babys butt..IGNORANT..IF he said that..he is a fool
It was almost a week before they found the remains..
He’s a donk….they are all in on the gravie train that Caylee has produced..Im sure he is getting his just dues out of this starring on NG everynite as a regular panelist….talkng shite here there and everywhere….
I think NG is finally starting to see right through him as well. She has disagreed with him a lot lately. I think he has been in it for publicity. He fooled everyone in the beginning. But not anymore.
Of course he denied saying it…because could you imagine if he owned up to saying such a calous remark like that about her skull…HE would be hated…
Hey I bet I know what is in the missing audio of the woods:
“Not yet leevil, still a little meat left on them bones. Give it about a month then you can tell your buddy to come back…”
I mean its all good he wantd to find her and dredge a river that had no meaning to this what so ever and he spent time and money coming all the way from the Cali but shut up you f~~’n lamer all ready….I mean give me a break..hold up her skull for the world to see..hes a pile.
I noticed Kobi hasn’t been on the show. I hope it stays that way too.
Hey Fish…how’d you end up finding the blog…I mean…you kno..sittng round a blog with us ladies…and all..how’d you find us?
Just an uncooth hick Pickles, he’s not doing any harm, just an amusing oaf on NG. This case is sad…need a clown to lighten the mood when I’m watching.
I dont watch the show..I mean I think NG is doing a great thing with keeping it in the publics eye and keeping the story alive not letting up on the ants..anyways y’all tell it just fine when your done watching it
ok i can’t find what did paddy say pickle? that made him a donk?
An uncooth hick..who wants to hold up Caylee’s skull for the world to see…where I come from thats ignorant
Tim Miller said that when he was searching Padilla asked him not to stop to imagine holding up her skull for the world to see…Im sorry but thats fukward upwards.
Goldy_Fishy said,
in January 13th, 2009 at 12:50 pm
Hey I bet I know what is in the missing audio of the woods:
“Not yet leevil, still a little meat left on them bones. Give it about a month then you can tell your buddy to come back…”
Ummm Goldie, that’s going a little too far. That makes me real sick to my stomach to even THINK someone would say that about Caylee’s remains. That’s just as bad as what Padilla told TM. Come on!!!!
paw i can see paddy saying that to and when it comes to tim or him i tend to believe tim…hes the only one who hasnt tried to make anything off this case…he does this from his heart and to help people put closure to the loss…
Hi bloggers!
I’ve been reading your comments and was glad to find that the bead is out! HOORAY!
Also, I was excited to read that our very own Pickles will be attending nursing school this year. Pickles, you have the intelligence, energy and kindness to fit right in that profession! I spotted that in you a long time ago, well… once I got past learning to read your ‘creative’ writing technique anyway! Congratulation Pickles for making a great choice!
my brother has jumped on the follwing of this case, mostly through me lol but he now states he catches nancy grace but only get what he needs to hear and then shuts her off, he cracked me up last night he said
NG- OK LETS GO OUT TO OUR PANEL… ATTORNEY SO AND SO, SO WHAT DO YOU THINK OF THIS?
ATTRY- WELL, NANCY…
NG-THATS NOT WHAT I ASKED YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!1
ATTRORNEY- WEL, AGAIN…
NG-LETS GO TO OUR PRODUCER NATISHA, ON THE SCENE, LATISHA.. ARE W SEEING ANYTHING OF ANTS?
LATSIHA- WELL, NANCY I THINK THE THINKING IS..
NG-THATS NOT WAHT I ASKED YOU!!!!!!!!!!!!!
lol you get the idea, he said he hates her…
rember to put WARNING on graphic posts…cought me unaware
I was following the story anyway. It came up on a google news search one day and I just liked what peeps were saying. Thats how I found it…
(I was just looking for jooooh Pickles!!!)
Anna im with you…its just I dont put it past Padilla to say…but I just its to much to even fathom that stupid inbread california cowboy..can go eat sh~
i still missed the hateful thing paddy said?
therapist wanna be
hello! is it still cold and mountains of snow everywhere? it is here, its all frozen ice now.. and this morning light snowing… have to leave in a few till 10:30, my new hours are going to conflict with the NG show… i should tell my boss this new schedule doesnt jive with my show
luckily it comes on 3 times…
gotta go dont forget to leave crumbs if you move…see you in am~anna
ewww. i found what he supposedly said ooh thats awful.. and creepy, and just plain weird..
Dats kewl Fish…
Bye Anna….
Joooh will be missed!!!
This is from http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0811/14/ng.01.html
This is the night I distrusted Padilla.
TIM MILLER, TEXAS EQUUSEARCH: Leonard told me, Tim, you don`t realize the opportunity we`re missing, gave me the story about why he thought that. He said, The body`s right here. He said, Tim, think about it. Just think about it. We`ll have the cameras — we`ll have your divers in there, TV cameras all around. Tim Miller is holding Caylee`s skull. Think how much money we can make, Tim. Exactly what happened today is what Leonard told us on Sunday, and we are doing a statement…
GRACE: Leonard Padilla, you want to respond to that?
MILLER: The script went exactly as he said. It`s not…
GRACE: Leonard, do you want to respond to that?
MILLER: … a surface — I asked Leonard to be…
LEONARD PADILLA, BOUNTY HUNTER: I`d like to respond.
GRACE: I`d like to hear Leonard respond to that. Go ahead, Leonard.
PADILLA: I begged Tim to send his divers down because we only had one. And I asked him on Sunday — I even went back by his headquarters and asked him, Please, Tim, we can`t pass up this opportunity, if you`ve got the divers. And he told me — the last thing he told me Sunday was, OK, I`ll get them out there tomorrow morning. Well, when tomorrow morning came, we had our two divers, and then we decided to go ahead and send in the two divers.
(END VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: And we`ve done a lot of defending various parties on this show, a lot of defending anybody out there, trying to search to bring Caylee home. Take a listen.
(BEGIN VIDEO CLIP)
GRACE: Who pays your people?
MILLER: Nobody does, Nancy.
GRACE: They`re all volunteers.
MILLER: We`re all volunteers. I`ve got $35,000-plus invested in — in Caylee`s search. But what price tag do you put on a missing person?
GRACE: Let them do what Tim Miller does with his search crews every day all over the country. People that are throwing stones — you know what? They`re not doing anything except armchair quarterbacking. So you take whatever they say with a box of salt.
M was in jail, out on bail, back in jail, out on bail, etc. etc. I am wondering when they saw just how serious this was becoming, M didn’t confide in Lee on one of those occasions - how it really happened, where the body is? Had plenty of time.
Also wondering if those jail conversations between M. and Lee weren’t just a game,(almost a planned script), *an interesting, mysterious, obvious, game of CODES, etc.* to KEEP this case fascinating, amazing, and ALWAYS in the spot light? After all since $$$$$$ is everyone’s game, the bigger this insane case gets, the more they can keep their FACES on TV., and the more books, films, Caylee memorabilia(later), they can sell. Ca ching!! $$ Ca ching! $$
Well she told him in those conversations where the body was…so I dont think that part was a game.
Heyo Betty1
Goldy_Fishy said,
in January 13th, 2009 at 12:59 pm
I was following the story anyway. It came up on a google news search one day and I just liked what peeps were saying. Thats how I found it…
(I was just looking for jooooh Pickles!!!)
Why would you be looking for pickles????
That’s a joke PAW
Pickles!
Congratulations on your career choice. I always said, “If we are going to be working 8 hours
days or more, for decades, we might as well get it together and find something that will make us decent money-so we can have some kind of safe, quality life…” Where did you get your inspiration?
OT - If any of you have kids out there, “The Occupation Outlook Handbook” has hundreds of careers listed,(that we might never even think of), fields that are over-crowded, starting salaries, highest salaries, all insider info. Printed by the Gov. Lastest one I saw said Medicine is the field of the future. RIGHT ON TRACK Pick!!! Break a leg, as we say.
Therapist THANK YOU…kind words from you are always appreciated…!!!
Betty1 thank you also…glad to see your here…I saw some really rude comments aimed at you on the gretawire..over you calling the radio show..I wont go back ther again they are rude to you !!!
It’s the Occupational Outlook Handbook. (OCCUPATIONAL). Sorry, rushing. Can see some of it on the net, but best to hold the book in your hands and browse thru it, finding jobs you might never have thought of, not just look up a specific career. Pickels, you could look up Nursing and see lots of inside data on it.
Thanks Betty…
aye aye afk…bb
By reading all the posts today I can see that I’m still in the minority when it comes to believing in Kronk. I watched his interview on GMA this morning and I continue to believe that what he’s saying is true.
I think Kronk’s background in being a bounty hunter not only helped him to logically think things through, when it came to finding Caylee’s remains but it also gave him his unyielding, dogged persistence.
However, I do wish the interviewer would have asked Kronk if he shared his thoughts about that particular area and what he saw there with anyone. Just like meadiawatcher said yesterday about NG not asking a pertinent question to the psychic, thereby missing an opportunity to clarify a few things, this GMA interviewer did the same thing.
If Kronk told his supervisor, his supervisor may have shared that information with one or more of his neighbors and it all got back to the Anthony family and their PI’s.
Therapist..I believe Kronk…all the negative stuff on him recently is due to Padillas poo filled mouth…and honestly Padilla is an inbread ignorant white man I dont trust him not one bit anymore…
He said all that garbage about Kronk on NG and I just dont believe it..not one bit..did you hear what he said to TIm miller bout holding up her skull for the world to see..
ok bb
Hi XOXOXOX… it’s sooooooo COLD! I have to go out in a few minutes and I’m shivering already.
I hope your day at work goes well!
Betty1 - So glad you mentioned the Occupational Outlook Handbook. Friend of mine is trying to get her 20-year old son to get a job. They are even looking into the Job Corp. I’ll look into this and tell her.
Pickles, nurses are Angels. You must be too to want in the nursing field. Good luck!
CAPY!!!!!…there joooh are..I saw jooh the other day..and jooh have been gone for awhile….CAPY!!!!!!
Glad to see you.
Thank you!!!
Ha … Not me honey lamb. I never called the radio show. I have never been to Greta wire. Now I know why you mentioned that once about me. Didn’t know what you meant. Not this OR gal. That’s why HERE I started using Betty1 (one). I saw another Betty was writing here, I think it was here.
HA - and to think, I have such a really nice name, (can ask Jan or Conc.in TX.). Everyone loves my name and tells me so. Just picked Betty out of the air I guess! GOOD MOVE J.!!! (me)
Ok I really got to brb…
Wait now im confused…wich Betty what…oh so YOU are from ORegon…oh cripes I gots them confused…I dont know wether im winding my butt or scratching my watch..
SORRY
Therapist, as I said…now that he has said his piece I will give him the benefit of the doubt if he just shuts up and goes away.
However I turn an evil eye on him again if it turns out those fine citizens (ack) were talking to a tipster (leevil) on the fine while they were moseying on around in the woods doing their public service by kindly pointing out all the trash that had been dumped in the area.
If that does turn out to be the case then there are too many magpies in the sewing circle who were in the know about the general area of the dump spot for me to totally believe he wasnt being tipped too.
Goldie? He has stated from the beginning he didn’t want to be in the public eye. But people like Padilla are putting him in the public eye.
I think its the slitting of the trash bags in the PI video that is going to sink these two guys as to inside information.
Why would you randomly open trash bags in a search for a dead body? Because you have a tip about a body in a bag, of course. Otherwise, you would be looking for disturbed ground where they buried her.
And what did he think he would find with the ski pole? If her body had been out there since June, even in Nov, there would have been nothing but skeleton, which would have maybe felt like the pole hit a rock.
He even stated in one of the 911 calls he wanted to remain annonymous. But that didn’t happen because people are trying to rip him apart.
Thank you pickles.
I can’t get the speakers to work on this comp so I can listen to last weeks show. Can we call into the radio show and just listen? I thought I read something that they were having some problems in that area.
Could you let us know before the next broadcast?
I get a kick out of you - LMAO. We need a little humor once in a while in the middle of this mess.
If this is a circus (and it is) who is the Ringmaster?
Yah I think Kronk is a good guy…Padilla runs his mouth like diarrea..honestly..he is a sh~ talking old goat with no clout or credibility to stand on…hes a joke.
Roy Kronk, who found the remains of Caylee Anthony in December, was interviewed on ABC’s “Good Morning America” Tuesday.
Kronk said he saw a suspicious bag back in August when he was out working his meter reading job. He said he called police three days in a row, and that when he was finally met by a deputy and pointed it out, the deputy said he couldn’t see it.
Kronk claimed that the deputy didn’t want to investigate further because the area was underwater at the time and because the area was infested by snakes. He said his experience with the Coast Guard as a bail bondsman and bounty hunter helped him to recognize that something was not right.
According to Kronk, after the discovery, his life has been turned upside-down.
“They’ve been really hard on me. You try to do the right thing, you try to be a nice guy and you just get vilified. The sad thing is people actually believe some of the things being said. I have nothing to do with this at all, but you listen to some of these conspiracy theories — ‘I’ve done everything known to mankind’ — I haven’t done anything. I just tried to help put a little closure to that poor child and she got a decent burial to end all this. That’s all I tried to do,” Kronk said.
Kronk told “Good Morning America” that he had been arrested in the early 90s for kidnapping, but that the charges were dropped and his record was expunged.
Kronk said in a statement issued to Local 6 News that the kidnapping involved a domestic situation with a man who was living with his former girlfriend.
”In the early 1990s, while on duty with the U.S. Coast Guard in Key West, Florida, I had a girlfriend who made the decision to discontinue her relationship with me and move to South Carolina to reside with another man. At some time after her departure, she called me and asked me to come to South Carolina and help her move away from that individual. I travelled to South Carolina to assist her. Upon my arrival in South Carolina, the man she was living with engaged me in a confrontation. As a result of that confrontation, I was arrested based on false allegations that I had kidnapped my former girlfriend. The matter was submitted to a grand jury in South Carolina. The grand jury determined that there was no probable cause to bring charges against me. In recognition of the falsity of these allegations, all records relating to this arrest were expunged by the South Carolina court
“When I applied for employment by Orange County, since the records of this arrest had been expunged, I would have been within my rights to not disclose this incident. However, I chose to disclose this arrest and the expungement of the records because I had nothing to hide and have a personal policy of openness and honesty about events in my life,” the statement said.
Local 6 News has confirmed that the information is included in the criminal background check conducted on Kronk prior to his hiring with Orange County.
Roy Kronk is not a “person of interest” in this case.
Capy..You can call the show and talk and voice your feelings,questions,opinions,theories…When theres alot of callers I just sit and listen..
Thank you..yer cool too!!! Ive missed you being around…FIX DEM SPEAKERS. Can you plug in headphones and listen that way
Benefit of the doubt if he goes away now Pickles.
Still going to feel hinky about him though when there is proof the PI’s were talking with a tipster…again just too many people in the know.
If Kronk was so interested why didn’t he help with the regular searches?
Spacely, I thought the same thing - I nearly flipped when I saw them slitting those bags with gusto. Tim Miller explained the careful way the team had to search to not destroy anything. Yep, this sure was no discovery hunt. It does look like a frenzy to find something and destroy/move.
They got some explaining to do why they were there and why they were rooting around like hogs.
I believe in Kronk too. I thought something was a little strange/off … at first. Wasn’t sure what I was feeling, but sensed something was going on, underneath the surface. I guess it was his experience in being a Bounty Hunter which I didn’t know about in the beginning. *THAT was it!!* That explains, his pit-bull determination, his total attitude.
“Joe the Plumber” is a News Correspondent now, maybe K will get some kind of great job now too.
What kind of Reward has time limits on it? He should really get some kind of Reward. HE FOUND CAYLEE - bottom line! This case STINKS to high Heaven! Has Paddy given him the $5000. he talked about? That’s where MONEY should go, not to murderers. Feeding M’s face, or making the ants rich. Someone said - maybe other former inmates were sending her those $20.00s. Terrific - helps make her fat, break her skin out, and give her high cholesterol! A win-win-win! YEAAAA!
I doubt Kronk will just go away because even Jesse Grund got pulled throw the mud because of the Anthony family. They are involved in this case in diff. ways but they will most likely be in this trial in some way.
I think and have thought Kronk is a good guy theres nothing to me that screams out that he is involved.
Think about it if he WAS involved then why would the PI be out there the month before obviously wanting to hide the body if he were talking to LV or through M. Kronk would of been part of a cover up because the Anthonys don’t want the truth out and they want to cover M’s tracks!
Is there anything that states Kronk did not help search when TM was there?
Betty1 - you should head up a fund to buy her a pole
Goldy_Fishy said, “Now that he has said his piece I will give him the benefit of the doubt if he just shuts up and goes away.”
My reply:
Goldy Fishy, the defense team will not let Kronk “go away.” The defense team will use and abuse him… they will tear him to shreds, chew him up and spit him out all in the name of defending their client and trying to create reasonable doubt in the minds of potential jurors.
Did you know that Kronk’s earlier kidnapping report was expunged? If Kronk himself did not openly admit that to LE, no one would have ever known about it. Not Geraldo or anyone. Kronk himself wanted to be upfront with his past and all other information so he brought that all up to LE right away. I read that he also passed a polygraph test but I can’t confirm that with a reliable source.
Wasn’t Kronk’s wife dying of cancer back then..?
Probably too busy to join the searchers looking for Caylee.
I think I am going to hear Sunday’s radio program again, and hear “BETTY” - from Greta wire. Whoever SHE is. HA,it feels a little like stolen identity must feel? Only kidding. I ONLY want to be responsible for what I say! GEEEEEZ.
If anything, Kronk and TM are the ONLY ones being straight forward and up front and wanting closure for Caylee. Everyone else is lying and covering up and telling stories. Everyone else is trying to get a murderer of an innocent child off the hook.
I heard M on the jailvids tell G that she found Jose by hearing his name in the waiting room of the jail.
Now that we have seen how Jose has attached himself to this case, now that we know he most likely received a large amount of money for licensing fees of pics and vid, now that we have seen his touching and other crazy antics, and bearing in mind that virtually every single thing M has ever said in connection with this case has been a lie, do any of us believe that is really how Jose got himself tied into what he is seeing as the gravy train?
IMO, I think Baez saw it on the news and saw $$$ signs.
I also think that Kronk does not look suspicious.
You just wonder how the media got a hold of his previous arrest if those records were expunged.
And the report that he took a picture kind of make you wonder. Maybe he has a cell phone that takes pictures. Many people do, it would be strange if he carried a camera while doing his job.
As to Padilla, he kind of reminds me of reading your horoscope. So many predictions that often one will stick.
The dream team is doing this pro bono for now. But when they see that it’s going to turn for the worse for them, they will either bail or they will ask to be paid. If she get’s off, they get paid with movies,books, ect. If she doesn’t get off, then they will want to be paid some how some way.
Most of the dream team are also well known authors plus on the lecture circuit. Regardless if case is lost or won, they will get their big pound of flesh after the case is over..
Kronk told the police everything. So you know the police verified it. Like everything else, I’m sure it became public record. If Kronk would have taken a picture, I’m sure some how it would have already been out. But the picture part came from Padilla. So I trust it as far as I can throw Padilla.
I have a feeling, once Caylee is finally laid to rest, all heck is going to break loose.
Paw,
Why do you believe that the dream team is working pro bono?
Sure, I have heard them make that statement, but I have heard several other lies from defense as well.
I do not beleive that any of the dream team is working pro bono.
I believe Jose did collect a massive licensing fee for pics n vids and that he is using that money to pay these people. Perhaps in inventive ways that allow them to make statements like pro bono. Perhaps not their normal fees, but future profits promised.
However, I do not believe that Dr Lee or K has ever done true charity work in their lives. K is such a scumbag, he is still taking NG money while he defends M. And we all know from Lee’s past, he is not above tampering with evidence to make his story believable.
Jose is getting money.
And he is using some tricky way to keep it out of M’s name so C n G can’t get their hands on it and so if things go really bad, it was his fee.
Paddy is a harmless joke. He’s not the first buffoon that NG has ever gave a sounding board to…there have been a few times that I have actually changed the channel on NG because she had truly vile idiots on there.
Paddy is a clown. I actually think NG knows he is a shit spewing cowboy and comedy relief because he believes his own BS.
regarding NG show! She annoys me as well, however we must remember the premise of the show as being from a prosecutorial point of view. NG was a prosecutor for many years and she was a bulldog!! I think she is,through her show trying to illustrate how things will go in court when the prosecutors rip poor Bobo defense to shreds. I can just see it now,BOBO saying I object a million times and the judge telling him to shut up and sit down already.
I can also see M totally devoid of emotion throughout the trial and the jury picking up on it. By the way Bobo still has not requested a delay in the trial and the trial is supposed to begin in March. He better start some sort of action now, but he is probably under mounds of paperwork with all the new circus events happening. I believe he is totally in over his head as we have not heard from him recently. I think he is ducking his head with all the new facts coming out of the dark and his client is looking more and more guilty by the minute. I bet mark Nehame is quietly smirking to himself in the realization that he made the absolutely best choice in ridding himself of the Ant farm.
Personally, I always visualize the Ants feverishly following thr various blogs,including ours to figure out how to untarnish their image. Unfortunately they would not know how to achieve that even if they had a playbook!!!
NG doesn’t annoy me Saluki, sometimes her over the top sensationalist panel does though but I think she hand picks some of the idiots on purpose JUST BECAUSE she knows they are idiots and that it is almost too funny to listen to their inane babble (aka people like Paddy, the ‘Psycic’…)
Paw69,
I thought I read in more than one article that Kronk took pictures of the site.. However, not really that unusual since in his August call, he showed pics of that rattler to cop. So, he was in habit of taking pictures anyway.
I also kind of tolerate Paddy because I know he is getting paid to spew his shit. Man deserves to make something back even if it was his own dumbass fault to bail out the baby killing bitch without talking to her first.
Spacely, I agree. BB’s camp has got money from somewhere. Remember his PR company and the PR guy, Todd (Let me confess FOR you) Black? He boasted very early on that they had received a lot of offers. Plus one of the first releases of photos was to 20/20 I believe and I believe M, possibly LV and BB had a lot to do with that. So I don’t think anyone is working truly pro bono for M.
Yah…she did cost him his tv show..
But after that remark regarding holding up Caylee’s skull for the world to see..I have zero respect for that inbred joke of a cowboy.
The NG show is half entertainment/half facts.
The criminal defense lawyers(the regulars) are suppose to disagree with NG in order to balance the show. Nobody would look at it otherwise. Getting mad in front of your TV screen at them is part of the entertainment.
MILLER: It`s no easy thing. And you know what, if you — if that water is so murky you`re not going to see an alligator 20 feet away so I question divers, but, you know, the reason I`m not sending divers down is that I told Leonard on Sunday, Leonard, don`t do this.
Leonard told me personally and I`m going to sit here and tell you what he told me. When I got doing the sonar work, pulled the boat up to shore, Leonard said, Tim, I need your divers, I need your divers.
GRACE: You told me that.
MILLER: I said, Leonard, there`s nothing there. Leonard told me, Tim, you don`t realize the opportunity we`re missing. He gave me the story about why he thought that. He said the body is right there. He said, Tim, think about it, just think about it, we`ll have that cameras be — we`ll have your divers in there, TV cameras all around.
Tim Miller`s holding Caylee`s skull. Think how much money we can make, Tim. Exactly what happened today is what Leonard told us on Sunday and we are doing the statement.
Here is Padilla’s response:
GRACE: I`d like too hear Leonard respond to that. Go ahead, Leonard.
PADILLA: I begged Tim to send his divers down because we only had one and I asked him on Sunday, I even went back by his headquarters and asked him, please, Tim, we can`t pass up this opportunity if you`ve got the divers, and he told me — the last thing he told me Sunday was OK, I`ll get them out there tomorrow morning.
Well, when tomorrow morning came, we had our two divers and then we decided to go ahead and send in the two divers, but I did, I begged him. I did everything I could short of paying him to send the divers down.
GRACE: OK.
Pickles at 1:45
Thank you! For now let’s leave poor Kronk alone. There are enough TRULY fishy characters to wonder about like BOTH PIs and the ants and their lawyers. Until there is any solid reason to suspect Kronk of anything “hinky” let’s give the guy a break.
Whats the skull quote thing about Pickles? I guess I didn’t catch it…
When NG gave Padilla a chance to respond - He did not deny what Tim said.
What I do?
Mytwocents..WERD UP!!!
Oh I see it Pickles…eh dumb hick put his foot in his mouth. Not the only stupid thing he has ever said. Like I said he is a clown and thats part of why NG has him on her ‘panel’ anyway.
He is Xploiting Caylee….he is using her for his own purposes….just because he was the bail bond heard round the world and lost his sho due to killr and her circus…dont mean he gets to make comments like that one…holding Caylee’s skull…making money off of Caylee is XPLOITING A CHILD…regardless of eating his feet he is Xploiting Caylee…just like the rest of em..I eat muh feet on a regulr basis actually I rathr prefr the taste of muh feet when I open my mouth..but that is just unacceptable…I dont care …
So, how many people think that if Casey ends up in the slammer, the Ants will sue Jose?
I can see a lot of claims against him like maybe the PI’s are still his employees, but pay records are muddled, so that Jose could keep an eye on the Ants.
Or that he was working in his own self interest for licensing fees.
Or that he was connected to that first PR guy from CA, Garrison, who was collecting licensing fees. I could see a connection between him and Jose, it is just too weird a guy from CA “volunteered” his services. Although, being in LA, he would probably have a better handle on the whole revenue stream from this kind of event, but that won’t stop the Ants from claiming Jose set them up, maybe got a cut.
Spacely do you mean California?
One name for you Pickles:
Adam Walsh.
His father would not be silenced and often times looked foolish and like he was actually getting in the way of LE trying to get justice. Look at everything positive that came of that and everything he has rallied for since to protect not only children but citizens as well.
Man rubs me the wrong way, huge ego, he bandstands, and it shows. Doesn’t defeat the purpose of the message he carries or the things he stands for.
Sometimes what you call ‘exploiting’ just helps remind people how important and serious things are.
Paddy is a clown and a hunter. It’s what he gets paid to do and continues to do. I don’t think there was anything serious about the skull refrence, just the cowboy gloating about how he luuuvs all this holleewud tee vee stuff.
Whatever.
I do believe Paddy was in earnest about finding the body Pickles. I think what he was saying was just colorful for what he is at his nature a ‘hunter’ and he was saying anything he could say to try and get a tool he needed to ‘hunt’. He was wrong…but it had to be explored. What if he had been right?
Awww don’t hate me Pickles daaahhhling…I just seriously can’t bring myself to despise the man for being oafish. If I went around despising all men for being oafish and insensitive I’d just have to lock my door and never go outside LOL.
Well I guess to some people anyone who has the guts to stand up and fight - especially on camera - is considered “grand standing.”
Adam Walsh and his wife and family and murdered son got the shaft from LE for YEARS.
I think it is amazing that he supports LE so much now after those experiences. It shows true character.
Personally I would rather not hear another negative word (even if it is you opinion) about Adam Walsh if you please. Not until you’ve walked in HIS shoes, Mr. Fish.
I meant John Walsh and his son, Adam. Anyway you know what I mean. What the man has done is incredible. I really don’t like to see him berated for any reason.
Pickles,
Yes California, I think the guy’s name was Larry Garrison?? but maybe I am not remembering right.
The details of this case have begun to overwhelm me….
He’s a dumb inbred white trash hick who’s 10 gallon hat is wrapped to tightly around his head…he spews crap from his mouth like water rushing over Niagra Falls…There is no Xcuse for wanting to hold a murdered childs skull to gain money…I mean to each is own…whatever..he is a hunter..right a bounty hunter who has done nothing but sit on tv spewing trash from his mouth I barely tolerated the man in the first place to be quite honest with you….and to hear he made that remark about Caylee’s little skull makes me have no tolerance for his show boating or bandstanding or the ability to eat his feet..the man is trash he is the most ignorant F~ on the face of the earth besides killr and her stupid family
I guess I was wrong in thinking that I was in the minority when it came to believing Kronk!
PAW69 I agree with EVERYTHING you said in your 2:02 pm comment!
Snookers, I too think, that like many of us, Kronk had a cell phone that takes pictures and if he did use it he probably thought it was in his best interest to do so. I think Kronk admitting to his past is how the media got a hold of that information. He even disclosed his past when he applied for his job and he didn’t have to do that since his record was expunged! I see honesty in that!
Pickles, thanks for posting that article about Krunk and Tim Miller… they are both heroes in my eyes!
I’d like to wrap up my thoughts by saying that regardless if we believe Kronk or not…
o Kronk found Caylee’s remains and reported it to LE without disturbing any forensic evidence.
o He didn’t hide the body or refuse to get involved.
o Kronk finding Caylee’s remains helped the prosecution team not the defense.
o Because of Kronk we are no longer wondering where Caylee was disposed of or was she eaten by alligators. (Remember all our discussions on that subject?)
BBL!
Spacely, I too can see the ants continuing to sue everyone for years to come but they will have to do it from inside a jail cell or their home because I am hoping they will never dare show their ugly lying faces in public again without having rotten tomatoes and worse thrown at them. In fact I hope they have to pay thru the nose for real bodyguards from here on.
Spacely - yes it was Larry Garrision who has been spokesperson for a bunch of lowlifes.
Fish..I dont hate you…I hate Padilla and his mouth…
Bye Therapist….we will miss joooh!!
Paddy - He only got into this for personal gain, I have never trusted the man and I disliked that he felt he knew so much better than LE, that he had to bail her out.
Although, there was a small part of me that truly hoped he was right, that she was being framed as the easiest target by LE, and that once she was out, the case would begin to unravel and Caylee would be found or returned alive. That part of me thrived on listening to Paddy say he would find her in less than a week.
Since then, I cannot trust anything he says. I can formulate millions of theories better than his, but none of them are true either.
I have noticed he seems to be able to buy new hats on a regular basis, so I think the NG pay must be good.
if kronk is really on the up and up we wont see any pic from him all over the media…like e1 else has done
2cents, thanks for the clarification and the comments. I always find your posts to be well thought out and logical, not to say everyone’s else is not, but it is always apparent that you are on top of the case and pay a great amount of attention to the murky details of these deep waters.
Pickles I think he overheard something from Sin (who I believe knew where Caylee was all along) to Grinch about Caylee being ‘under water’ while he was in the home because of course at the time the drop was flooded and acted on that hunch later when he realized there was a body of water nearby.
I think his comment was an attempt to motivate someone to get use of a resource he didn’t have to investigate the hunch.
I agree he is a crude oafish SOB and people who do the job he does are usually only a step up from the slime they catch (birds of a feather) but I think your absolute vilification of him is over the top.
Like I said if I had to go hating every crude, oafish, and insensitve man in the world it would be a lonely place.
I don’t disagree with anything you say about his character, but I do believe he was out there making an earnest attempt to search for a child he knew for sure had been killed by its so called ‘mother’.
Anna…your name is posting funny..a nna did you do that on purpose?
I gothca Fish….rijo rijo…
have a new pc cleaner that wipes ething off pc so when i go to blog have to put name and mail ia every am it just jumped this morning will fix it in am when i have to redo it again:) was wondering if anyone would noice
its been that way all day
id love to live in florida to go to the trial..wasnt a blogger on here from fl and she went out to search to who was that pic do you rember????
The only pic they showed from Kronk was of a rattlesnake, if u missed the interview its online: abcnews.go.com/GMA/story?id=6635154&page=1
if u think Kronk has a load to deal w/ imagine if the Zeniada who lives at the house where the body was found had been looking our her window & saw M out there then later found it, rumors would have never stopped.
I know Anna I saw it right off…this am… is cute
i dont think john walsh is arrogant either…i think from his personal tragedy hes turned around and helped many many people like tim miller has 2 great guys in my book!
Sharon…she is from FL..and volunteered to search
jfarm never thought about the zenida finding her boy would that be a mess…she wouldnt fit description tho>>>but they wouldnt care!
JR,
Someone named Zeneida lives next to the woods where they found Caylee’s body?
I have not seen this anywhere….
…but the implications are staggering. Now, the whole story does make sense just like Jose said it would…
M2c…
Not saying anything wrong about Mr. Walsh, saying he rubs me the wrong way and I know a lot of other people feel that way too.
Just because I get a bad mojo from him does not discredit him for what he believes in, he has accomplished even if he does kind of creep me out on a personal level.
I think you misread that part.
god is watching out for our caylee…tha hair in the trunk…not letting the pi find her…and i bet there is something on that tape…and i rember tha alligator talks boy im so glad shes found!
Space, I don’t recall who posted it, someone help me out, but the house on the corner of hopespring is a gonzalas the next house is a zenaida- the body was found pretty much on the property line of those two houses.
Anna, good thing that zenaida wasn’t bbquing that day, she might well be in jail & m running wild!
Capy … just got back from hearing “BETTY” on a re-run of Sundays radio show. Boy, that’s not me!
GREAT idea …a collection to buy a POLE for M!
No - no - wait! Better idea! Hold off … we’ll have a collection to buy a POLE for the INMATES at the Jail - when we find out where her permanent home will be. And *hopefully*, this wonderful Celebrity-Murderer, will be in general population!
God we all work WELL, together!
Yes there is two houses near where the body was dumped…one of the tenants is named Zanieda and the other’s name is Gonzales…Her whole story revolves around that name
spacely… a zenida and a gonzalez live in the houses ajacent to where her body was found…..
Betty1 sorry for the confusion..you both are great ppl…again I am sorry
its on scared monkeys site…just boggles the mind this case and coincedenses huh??
was it sharon pickles who went to search??that lives in florida??gonna drive me crazy till i rember
You can read about it at scared monkeys…
scaredmonkeys dot com/category/caylee-anthony/
anna - yes it was Sharon who searched. And another gal visited our blog who searched too and now I cannot remember her name. (My apologies!)
Yes Sharon it was
thank u grammy, i couldn’t recall where it was from.
thanks you know how you think about something and just cant rember…drives you crazy, dont rember anyone else tho hmm…
anna- no offense but that’s blog BS. I don’t put any credence in it until I see it reported from a credible news source.
Snookers, I heard on one of the TV shows that Kronk’s lawyer brought up the expunged kidnapping - himself. Said he wanted to, so he could explain exactly what happened, and the net result. NOT on any record anywhere! Like it never happened. Was in error - to start with. No kidnapping.
To clarify - And scaredmonkeys ain’t a credible news source.
oh i thought scared monkeys was a ligit site..was wondering why it hadnt made the news yet!
well its warmed up to -8 almost x to pick kids up brr…
Sorry. I am so far removed from even being able to imagine Mr Walsh creeping out anyone that I guess you’re on one planet and I’m on another as far as that goes. Plus it IS an insult to him. But I don’t care. He’s succeeded in having his son’s murderer finally identified after all these years AND he’s kept his family together AND he’s supported many other victims’ families AND he’s helped LE capture how many wanted criminals AND he’s encouraged the public to get involved in fighting crime AND given the appropriate credit to everyone at any and every level.
If his success upset you - that’s jealousy.
If that’s not the reason for your reaction then again, I do not or even want to comprehend.
I just think it’s sad. I’m thrilled that he’s the success he is but I’ll guarantee you he’d give it up in a second to have his little boy back.
I just wonder if Dom knew Hoover was taping.
Also wonder when LE went with a fine toothcomb over the crime site, they would have noticed the any evidence of his forensic rod probing.
Heck, maybe that was one of the things they got from the ant’s house. Wishfully hoping.
true MTC, i didn’t think about it not being verified, don’t even recall who posted it. i remembered the whitepages being on the site & thats what i based it on, it has those 2 addresses w/ the occupants listed as gonzalaz & zenaida, will go to whitepages myself to check.
anna - scared monkeys may sometimes have some truth in it but it’s just not a real news source you know? So it’s interesting but keep a box of salt handy when you go reading there, okay? LOL!
Oh yeah Dom knew because the whole point was to have him there to record it and probably take it back to Anthony
A Zanny and a Gonzales on either side of the woods?
OMG, I had not heard that at all.
I am in shock now….she was telling the truth in her twisted way…
This seems to wrap up the case for the prosecution…anyone on the jury can see the obvious connection to the lie.
All this time, I thought she saw the chick’s registration card at the apts. But maybe that was the wild coincidence….OOOOHHHH Zanny, why did you have to look for a new apt on that one particular day?????
allrighty peps off to the cold..should we move to other blog???its getting really slow…leave crumbs for me if you do ill be back later~anna
Betty1,
I thought Geraldo had the scoop first on the kidnapping charge. He called it rape charge first and revised it later to kidnapping.
All before anything was said by Kronk’s attorney.
snookers - I thought Dom asked Hoover to tape?
How could he not know the guy was there?
I just don’t know WHY he’d want it videotaped?
Velly strange. I can’t think of any reason except to blackmail the ants (I wish) if he’d found the body and offered to not reveal it or offered to hide it better or (2) to show the ants to see if they recognized anything in the area that could be M’s or Caylees.
Do you have any ideas on why he’d want it taped? Oh,maybe he had to prove to the ants that he was working that day so they’d pay him!
LOL!
snookers -
That in a nutshell is exactly why I pretend that Gerbil was in fact “lost” in the desert many years ago never to be heard from again.
I just despise the man and he can’t be believed. If I ever met him I’d probably try to rip off his mustache! Just to see if that’s a lie too! LOL! Or maybe that’s the only genuine thing that he can produce!!!
Now I am confused.
Just for the record:
1) There is a rumor that a Zanny and a Gonzales live on either side of the woods.
2) That rumor is not verified by a legitimate news source, so at this point, is rampant speculation.
That is my understanding at this moment, but if anyone verifies this rumor, please let us know, I think this may be crucial to the build up of how her lies work.
yep, go to whitpages on ur own or heres the links: 4701 hopesring dr is gonzalaz & 4701 hopesring dr is zenaida.
i take all non credit news w/ a grain of salt, if they list verifiable info i take it w/ less cuz it’s easy to check out & disprove- so why list bad info that can be verified esp. when someone will check it out.
now the ? is, are those the correct addresses on the end of hopespring dr, i’ll have to figure out google maps for that one
whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=4701+hopespring+dr&city_zip=orlando&state_id=FL&localtime=survey
whitepages.com/search/ReverseAddress?street=4709+hopespring+dr&city_zip=orlando&state_id=FL&localtime=survey
*Hands M2C a chair when meeting Gerbal*
Spacely - First I’d like some kind of credible confirmation that people by that name live in those houses.
But even after that, M was calling the nanny Zanny for quite a while, wasn’t she? To her friends and family? So do you think when she was found by her mom, dragged home, and put on the phone with 911 on the spur of the moment she had the presence of mind to give the COPS the full name - based on those two houses between which she “hid” the remains? I don’t think she thinks that fast.
M2C,
There are very small cameras. Hoover, as an PI would be familiar with them. I thought the quality of the tape was very bad, like a kid took it or a hidden camera while the taper was moving around..
But Zenaida is not a last name!
It may be true. I just wouldn’t take scaredmonkeys as the final word.
PAW = Is that so I can reach his mustache? I am kinda short! Thank you!
M2C, no it was a Zenaida with a different last name, then a last name of Gonzales on the other house. I think JRS is google mapping the houses.
Pickles, yes I saw somewhere on a post here, one that gave 3 good http://s. They were great! One had a Map of the area, addresses and home owner’s names. Two neighbors have houses right next door to each other,and it looked like if you followed their lots (which backed up to the swampy area?) as far as you could on land to that street where she was found, you would see where the body was placed, I think.
WHAT IS WITH M AND THAT NAME? One family is named Zenieda, and the other Gonzales. WHAT?? God help the Prosecution, trying to keep all of this INSANITY straight for the Jury, then with BOZO in there, throwing lies, dirt, nonsense, irrelevant things at them, trying to keep THEIR heads spinning too.
Funny M had to do it that way, she had been in and out of jail so many times. What about telling Lee very confidential things, in person? Wouldn’t that have been best? Oh well,here I go again, trying to attach NORMAL THINKING to them, when I should **KNOW** by now, NONE of them function anywhere near or even CLOSE to normal!
I know the lead attorney of the Prosecution Team, on the O.J.case, got a heart attack in the early stages of the Trial. What awaits us here?
LOL M2C, I just remember his nose got broken by a chair lol.
snookers - Yeah. Maybe Hoover did tape Dominic without telling him. That would be hysterical!
And even with a decent camera it has to be held steady which is not real easy if someone’s not used to it. So it could be a combination of a poor quality camera and inexperienced (or sneaky) operator!
PAW - I had forgotten that! LOL! Thanks for reminding me! That should have been a big clue for him to give up that line of work but obviously he’s too stupid to realize that!
I’ll still take the chair and then decide how to use it!
So they did find factual evidence that there was a resident by the name Zanieda and one by the last name GOnzales right? JRS is checking on it right?
Nice work JRS…good job!!!!
I’m begining to find scaredmoneys story a bit ummm fishy.
I think if it were true that someone like NG would be all over it like bees to honey.
ok if u don’t have google earth map get it, its just too damn cool, don’t know how to copy info here,yet, its on my desktop ( husband hunts so it was already downloaded - can u tell i’m like a kid in a candy store )
k, i put in ants address 4739 for directions to 4701, yes it right down the road- 312 ft, shows 2nd house from the corner, which lines up to where the woods begins. 4709 is next to it, but now i can’t tell if its 2nd & 3rd houses or 1st & 2nd, could be going off mail boxes. either way, they r both at the end of hopesrpring dr. i will try to figure out if i can paste it but i’m guessing not since its on my desktop.
Uhh Fish your link dont go no where to your name see how its highlightd!!!
GE doesn’t tell you who lives there though
Right click it Pickles and go to ‘properties’
i can email it, i have c~a’s but she’s not on, if anyone wants it lmk.
2cents,
I agree that she did not have the presence of mind to come up with a fancy lie like Zanny Gonzales on the spur of the moment.
However, with this new info, I can see this scenario:
She lies about Zanny for a long long time - starts as a reference to xanex, but eventually means any kind of drinking or drugs.
When she dumps the body, she know the residents names on either side (there is a jailvid of C asking her about someone in the neighborhood and she goes into a long winded explanation that she knows no one in the neighborhood - which always seemed strange as it was directed at her mom who probably knew everyone she did - I have always wondered about why she went into that, maybe because the police figured out the neighbor thing right away and she had been telling them she knew no one to steer them away). She is tickled by the Zanny name as it fits perfect with her previous lies. Gonzales seems like a great fit too, so she uses it.
And maybe she did see the registration card or someone there told her about the real Zanny, so she picked up the hyphen name.
This is a Kaiser Souze moment if I ever saw one.
Kaiser Souze…I love that movie!!!!!
i emailed it to myself, nice little pic shows up.
Fish….okie doke…
its an email addy
mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=03d8f2332b&view=att&th=11ed1d500f682e1e&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=GoogleEarth_Image.jpg&zw
when i clicked the pic in email it opened to up here, not sure if it will go but see??
ooooh Pickles joooh sooo smahht!!!
they will link, here’s the other address- nothing like watching a person learn while posting!
mail.google.com/mail/?ui=2&ik=03d8f2332b&view=att&th=11ed1dc13f5ff99e&attid=0.1&disp=inline&realattid=GoogleEarth_Image.jpg&zw
WooHoo!!
I know there are over 900 posts, so this may have been pointed out by someone already. But according to the news site that has the video, Casey did not let them air the sound of that tape. But they were allowed to listen to it and they confirmed that Casey was heard saying “I don’t see it.”
Now unless his sick daughter was looking for a present at the site, there is only one conclusion to be drawn from this: he is being guided.
Where did the report come from about the two neighboring houses?
goldy, no ge just give a map, whitepages tells who lives there.
Okay, upon further reading I have found the Scared Monkey site for that report. The property report looks fairly convincing actually, but the assumptions are not really making sense with regard to the jail house interview because Zanny the nanny was in the lie picture that pyschomurdermom concocted long before Caylee was even murdered.
Unless…
Is it possible that when she drugged Caylee she left her at the little house in the woods between the Z and G property lines while she went to her little parties and such… does that sound crazy? But if those are indeed the names of the owners of the property and the nanny name goes back well before the murder, then all the times psycho was saying that Caylee is with the nanny GZ, she meant sedated in that little house in the woods?
Silly I dont quite get what your saying….
Unless his sick daughter was looking for a present at the site…whois sick daughter?
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/
Yeah I did dat too…it does appear the names are verifiable.
Ya think maybe Leevil the dink who couldn’t figure out the code mentioned it to mom and mom figured it out?
Maybe thats where she killed Caylee was that little house.
I agree with Pickles. From day-one when I heard Padilla was bailing M out, I felt sick, he’s an egotist and now he’s po’d because she did not fess up like he thought she would.
Random thought: Scot Peterson showed no emotion ever, she is just like him. Self-centered to the point of evil.
He claimed he was on the cel phone with his sick daughter, then he changed it to a ‘psycic’.
Leevil is psychic????
Casey… the detective who is in the woods on the cell phone who claims he was only talking to his sick daughter… so unless his sick daughter was saying “daddy, bring me a big rock from the woods or a big garbage bag” him saying “i don’t see it” and going very carefully with tools and cutting open bags suggests that he is being guided on the phone.
sorry, bad pain day, so may not be making much sense
Silly is ok…
Is that little house there in the woods secluded?
I really need to get a noodle strainer I just burnt the bajeebus out of my thumb with scoldng hawt watah
he has changed it to psychic? godlie are you joking or for real? wtf kind of detective is this guy, straight from Neverland?
Pickles - Buy an aloe plant. Very easy to maintain. Actually it’s hard to kill it.
I keep one in the kitchen and the goop inside the leaves is GREAT for kitchen burns!!!
So Sowwwwy you huwt yousef.
And yes. Get a strainer, silly!
yes… and I bet psycho nicknamed the house Zanny the (wink wink) “Nanny”
and I bet Lee knew and he was on the phone with PI Casey… not because psycho told him at the jail house… but because Lee prob knew that is where psycho drugged and left the baby from time to time… he may have had a feeling that if Caylee was indeed dead, she would be with the “nanny” …
the same nanny that psycho had been using for over a year
Yeah he changed it to talking to a psychic…cops will find out who he was talking to as long as they hadn’t fiddled with the time and date stamp.
They are clowns silly…plain and simple. A big part of Bozo’s magical show.
picks was that your child who had the marbles problem? if so, how is kiddo? are they all out?
If he was talking to a psychic, who’s to say he wasn’t talking to Gale St. John. Cause she was there too.
Mytwocents…oh yah know all about the mystical aloe plant..I am a fair skinned r3dh3d with a skin retardation..I only burn…and the aloe is muh friend!!!
Silly it was beads and yes thank you!! All better now…
pickles, oh good. I was afraid you’d think I was a nut. To me an aloe plant is THE most important kitchen tool!
goldie… can PI Casey (figures psycho and psychic babbling PI have the same names) be held on charges of obstruction if he was in fact talking to Lee or someone other than his magical friend?
wait… is this the same psychic who claimed to have had a vision of Caylee at the spot and did her own video?
Okay im not going to get to far into her leaving Caylee in that house drugged because there are kids who live there who probably like her play at Chicksaw trails..and when I was a kid them types of lil shack cabin things were the sh~ and we were always playing in them…
PAW - I don’t think Gale St John got her fat a$$ out of her car long enough to claim anything about that area - let alone what he might “see.” I also doubt that Dominic would go on a hunt FOR HER! I think someone else was on the other end of that phone.
Picks… oh good… i knew it was something small and round… just could not recall what it was. i did the same thing when i was little…no fun on the way out as I recall;)
Mytwocents…Aloe is a pasty irish gurls bff..during the summer…oh jah
mytwocents said,in January 13th, 2009 at 4:42 pm
AHAHAHAHAHA….oh shoot she see’s dead ppl…
lol M2C, gotta throw out all the “theories”, ya know hehehe.
Can we lock up Paddy, the crazy psycho psychic, this PI, m and Bozo in a cell together? I rather not hear a word from any of those peeps LOL.
Snookers, I can’t remember where I heard about Kronk’s lawyer jumping the gun, and getting that story out first. Might have been on Geraldo. I didn’t hear the lawyer tell it himself - someone told the story about him. BUT in such a high profile case such as this, I guess they would have even found an EXPUNGED case. Probably not a bad idea for that lawyer to beat them to it! Take the WIND out of their sails, as they say.
NG is very good and obviously on Caylee’s side.
I guess that’s why BOZO “somehow” became friends with Geraldo, and won him over to be on the “other side”. That’s Casey’s side? WHAT?
He was on the phone with Sin or Leevil…I don’t think Leevil quite cracked the code, a bit of a dim bulb, but when Sin got a hold of some of it she figured it out.
do we know if kids played there? i thought it was well off the path… well hidden and in back? plus, most kids are in bed by the time psycho was going out with her pals. just saying… seems rather an interesting thing to speculate about because the inside joke was that Zanny the Nanny had Caylee (all the references before Caylee was killed) when we all know there was no real nanny. So it was code for something or someone. Xanax maybe. Location, maybe. Person, maybe.
but I find it intriguing that the woods where Caylee’s body were found - and assuming this is being accurately reported - were between two properties, one belonging to G name and one to Z name… just saying… very interesting trying to figure out what a psycho would be up to and not very pleasant to think about:(
Plus I dont see her leaving Caylee in that little house because if Caylee awoke and got out and wandered and someone found her then surely enough c would find out.
Betty1
Remember Geraldo fancies himself a ladies man (remember his brag book)??? Bozo probably promised Geraldo sloppy seconds of the skank…
I’m going to wait for the phone records to verify who the PI was on the phone with.
Picks… now you gave me goose bumps with that question… because what if that was not the first time duct tape had been used? oh, i feel dizzy… wow… that woman needs to be treated to the same experience that poor Caylee was left to endure with the “nanny”…
I just dont see her leaving Caylee in such a well known place around there drugged out…taped up or not…I mean yes it is..Older kids and teens hang out over there to escape there parents..they probably go smoke doobies in that little house thing…I just dont think she is that stupid to leave Caylee in there…where any hooker could go service a john in there…Id believe Caylee was in the trunk before I believed that..If im wrong then I will admit it..but I just dont see it.
PAW69..me too…the phone records will tell the truth
I was thinking the same thing. The bad thought that this wasn’t the first time she duct taped Caylee and left her in that house so she could go party. Maybe, just maybe Caylee started talking about that and that’s why Cindy wanted custody of Caylee. UGHHH this is so insane.
Sillybutt here is a good read:
Goldie_Fishy said,
in January 12th, 2009 at 7:45 pm
Hi guys how goes the battle? What’s all this talk about the deserted house? I wonder if there was any evidence of “inhabitant(s) or the murder in the house with the theory of maybe caylee was being drugged and left in there? and as pickles said, it is possible if it is secluded enough that she killed her there? I hope that LE went over that house with a fine tooth comb
picks, no worries… just speculating
Pickles, When it comes to Casey, I put nothing past her though… *sigh*
C~A I could see the murder taking place there..but I bet dollars teenagers and hookers go there to do there business…smoking dope and servicing johns…I just think it would be to risky to leave Caylee there drugged and bound up…to risky
i do agree pickles…seems much safer to be locked in a trunk where she has access to her! but ya never know, maybe the night of the big fight is where she killed her, and maybe in that little house? Threw her back in the trunk, then the back yard and back in the trunk…she would of had to of been in the trunk for the two days before she would decompose enough to have cadavers hit on the yard…then back in the trunk and out to the woods.
I know….I just think the trunk was her storage choice for a doped out bebe when she was itchng for the ween
lol itchin for the ween!
Oh yah she could of killed her there…in that house…I doubt she went to far from home to do it..
CA, well maybe that is the duct tape trail too… don’t know, just speculating, but that we be fairly amazing coincide. if the whole time psycho is saying (before Caylee was killed) that she is with the ZG nanny and the body is found on property that is bordered by the G and Z families.
because the story of the fake nanny Zanny existed before the murder… so where was Caylee or with whom? was she drugged and the “nanny” was a code word/inside joke for the drugs? was she at a location and the “nanny” was a code name for that? was she with an actual human?
this reminds of the film The Usual Suspects… has anyone seen that movie? Where Kevin Spacey’s character concocts an entire story from pieces right in front of him and the cop does not see it right away because it is too obvious.
My son the wonder climber is sitting on the desk right now smiling at me because he is proud he climbed up here
Is the house closer to the hang out ? Then where she was found?
I just…I know she is evil DIABLA but I think leaving Caylee in that house while doped and bound was to risky even for her.
I just had a thought about the high concentrations of chloroform….could the high levels be from extended use of the drug in the enclosed area…where it built up over time…as opposed to maybe spillin it? But she didn’t know or realize the high concentration would permeate the carpets etc…Never heard of any empty plastic bottle or anything as evidence
I like that movie someone said Kaizer Souze earlier…
I dont know…wich the house is closer to…
CA remember there was flooding, so we don’t know exactly where Caylee was placed, because the water likely moved her closer to the road. The house - i may be wrong - is a little place way in back and bunches of garbage bags of some sort (which I don’t fully understand… anyone know why the garbage bags are there among the rocks?)
even if kids - older ones did hang out there - as i understand it from the accounts (again, i maybe wrong, so we need to double check) it was dark in the woods and this was fairly deep, so any older kids hanging out would not know everything that was around that house at night… but I do hope LE looked for fingerprints and as you say went through that place with a fine comb
In the trunk carpets C~A
silly - I meant to ask what the deal is with the families that lived near the woods….Gonazales and “what” family? I missed the names…
I think M murdered Caylee in her own home while C & G were at work. Much more safer, less chance of interruption by strangers.
That abandoned house was across the street at the crime scene I believe. Would not make sense if she killed her there , put her in the trunk for days etc. People could have seen her.
Maybe she hid other things there related to Caylee’s murder. Or PI got confused with the CB blocks /pavers, markers?. The next day, he was at the right place on the other side of the street. Guess he got better directions that time.
Hi my peeps…
just got back from drs…. it is definately severe case of RA.. how lucky can one get!!! haha.. will be put on some heavy duty meds… hopefully I will be able to still type.. might be a little goofy tho!!
I see nothing new since this AM???
I think any levels of chloroform would remain in the carpeting..and if used enough over time would build up
But I dont think she was just using chlorimix to drug bebe….
fishy - ya I know it’s in the carpets…what I am askin is could this be due to extended use on the baby with trunk being where she kept the poor thing? I don’t ever remember it being discussed in any detail HOW there could be such levels…it would be overtime and extended use…OR ….could be a one time, dousing ??? (Sorry)
Carpet fibers are very absorbant
CA, good point on the high concentration of C… wait… what evidence did LE collect at the ants home after Caylee was found?
I don’t know about keeping her in the trunk, because even as stupid as psycho was, she knew that Caylee could suffocate in the trunk… she was not ready to kill her yet it seems otherwise, she would have done it sooner I think.
It would have been better, since we think Lee know all about everything, for m to leave Caylee at his apartment, drugged, with her tool - the tape, rather than in a place in the woods? Maybe Lee’s girlfriend would have found out tho … I recall her being chased out of the ant house by LE.
I wonder if the madness comes from both sides of the family, and how far back it goes…
What was that one google Search about - weapons in the house?? What could that have been about?
For who - to murder Caylee, Cindy, George?
Carpet is very absorbant and would absorb chloroform emmitting in the trunk
if maggott went overboard with the chorie the night baby died…and she got it in her hair..would you think it would be traceable?
They took pool chemicals and stuff.
Hey Red.
I think she spilled the C in the trunk while trying to clean it… I think the baby was drugged with other methods.
CA the site Scared Monkeys did a background check on the properties on either side of the park, if the “nanny’s” name is GZ, how crazy is it that the house on each side of the property each belong to a family named G and a family named Z… the link is upthread somewhere
pickles…I know carpet is absorbant and I am wondering if the high concentrations COULD be due to extended use? LIke they didn’t find a big high concentration stain did they? So I figure it is solely in the air…absorbed and emmitted due to over use….is that most likely as opposed to having her going nuts the night she killed her and having her soak the baby in it….making high concentrations due to having to splashin all over the trunk? ONE TIME>???
I thought LE took some clothes belonging to psycho and baby? Did they not take that as well during that trip to the ants?
silly - so the fams on either side of the woods surnames are “gonzales” and “zanaida”????? or Fernandez?
Unfortunately unless someone in the know (like the effin evil ants…especially Leevil) ever squeals all we can do is speculate on how much torture this murderous evil bitch put that child through. Bones may tell chemical tales but they don’t speak as well as a body could have.
That is why the family went along with their game. Protecting the evil bitch because she has dirt on all of them. Sin and Leevil tipped the shit off and were trying to figure out how to clear the drop spot without being seen.
Kronk got lucky than God and blew the whole plan.
PAW69 said,in January 13th, 2009 at 12:51 pm I noticed Kobi hasn’t been on the show. I hope it stays that way too.
PAW69 - did you notice that when BB was in court last week fighting to get the pic’s released … when the judge made him give his list of experts and their locations … Kobi was not named on that list?
Wonder if he withdrew from the case, or BB was scared of what Kobi might say.
one family is zanaida and one is gonzales
I don’t think she ever left Caylee in the little house or that she killed her there.
Someone has already mentioned it makes no sense to kill her there and move her to the trunk and it also stands to reason she would not take the chance Caylee would wake up some night and walk home if she left her there.
However, now I am wondering, where did she leave Caylee all those days and nights? It could not have been the trunk. As a Floridian, I can tell you the temps down here would most likely kill a kid in a trunk even on the mildest days, but especially in the summer. And M must have been doing this for some time, at least since the Zanny stories started. But where did she leave her?
If she left her in the car, someone would have noticed and called the police at some point. We have a lot of kids die of heat in the car down here and many of those stories make the news, so there are always people looking into cars thinking about these stories.
So, where?
I found the MAP that I had seen on here. Sheller posted it. Phone rang, lost it. Somewhere near the beginning of this place … sort of. I will get the time now…
silly is that for real? So the woods kidnapped caylee now….I bet the woods have alot more to do with this case then the drop off point. So where does Fernandez…
oops…fit in?
C~A yes…..but as Mediawatcher just pointed out it would be almost impossible for Caylee to of ever been stored in the trunk due to xtreme temperatures
Is it hot at night to there in FLorida Mediawatcher?
Fernandez = Fern and EZ
She dumped her near a fern and it was so EZ, she made up a little joke about it.
Wish I knew how to forward this to you.
Map with the owner’s names. It is Monkey something.
It is a post by Sheller Jan. 12 7:39PM
Hope you can get there and see the map.
Yes Media I did notice that too. Isn’t it ironic lol.
Ok With the Names, One of the houses has the First name Zenaida and the other house has the Last name Gonzales.
You put all that together, then put together The Zenaida Fernandez-Gonzales from Sawgrass Apartments, that’s where the Fernandez got put into play.
Don’t know about Florida - I live in LOOsiana, but hot and muggy here, pretty much the same as the Florida area
Body Farm/FBI lab says a body (we now know was Caylee) was in trunk of car approximately 2.6 days
Pickles,
It is hot on many nights. However, I do live pretty far south of Orlando, so it is more temperate there. It actually gets down in the 40’s there some nights.
So, there are some nights you could get away with it, but overall, if you play those odds, the child will die and it would have been much sooner, I think.
Space… not only that, someone would have noticed the baby being put into the trunk or taken out, since psycho did not always sleep at home on the days she did not have Caylee and also Caylee was not with the Ants.
Here is the strange part…
So the area where baby is found is on one side of a property belonging to a Gonzales family and on the other, to zanaida family.
The “nanny” Zanny story has been around for a long time before Caylee was killed.
And ZFG went to look at that apartment fairly late in the game (what was the date … can’t recall off the top of my head).
So then who the hell was named Zanaida Gonzales all of that time? If she made up the name, okay… but based on real people (like neighbors?) or this is all just very strange coincidence? That is why I think she must have been talking about the property when referring to the nanny
Isn’t that what we all had thought all along though?….I mean…open to new possiblilites such as the abandoned house…but that is risky.. so we are abandoning the idea that she used the trunk and chlorie as a sitter? So the chlorie was a pre med google search for clean up purposes only? and if the tests all come back negative for chemicals where do we stand then? CAUSE OF DEATH….STRANGULATION IN THE WOODS…AT THE HOUSE…which is why she didn’t call cops…so the evidence would ‘disappear”…so baby was drugged up at parties …..sometimes…where was she then the times she was out partying…and told sindee she was sleepin over at nannys?
betty1 the link to that is http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/
I think that is what you want.
Jan Barrett
She was sillybutt. Leevil couldn’t figure it out…too much of a dolt. Sin figured it out….
The other thing I noticed from court last week - when the judge made BB list his expert witnesses … the judge called BB on the carpet and said the he saw one of BB’s witnesses on TV the night before (that was Henry Wee Wee) talking about the case.
Since then … Wee Wee has been verrry verrry quiet
CA… yep, the woods did it with the help of the psychic;)
the site is ScaredMonkeys, but they show the property records. you can get them on your own as well by using pipl.com or paying for them on Intellius.com
hello every one , good to see you again C~A was reading, you are a smart number-one in my book,Duct tape; we have a comedy show called the Red green show, he uses Duct tape for EVERY thing
if the soft tissue disappeared or left the tape (cant explain this, help me C~A”)) that was around the skull wouldn’t it have fallen off being soaked in water ? and all, so the killer must have wrapped it a few times tightly , thats why it was still on the skull so her teeth would be entact ,didn’t they say they found teeth ?
I am not sure about temps in florida from say january to june…media what is average temp..over the “winter months”…in Florida? Cause she may have only started doing this begining of the year and started planning the murder and the trunking her in the spring? Is florida relatively cooler then normal in those spring time months?
THANK YOU JAN!!! ALL HAIL JAN ANS SIMON!! AHHHHHH
Just throwing this out there, but any chance you think she drugged Caylee and put her in the little playhouse in the backyard on party nights?
She could collect her on the way in late at night or perhaps even the next morning?
My parents would never have looked in a playhouse unless they thought we were out playing in it.
CA, go here
http://scaredmonkeys.com/2009/01/10/could-zenaida-gonzalez-have-been-code-for-caylee-anthonys-location-and-not-just-a-nannys-name/#more-6493
I dont think it was Media who said that..Was it you SPacely?
I just dont know now..
About the weather in FLorida?
Orlando is anywhere from 40 to 85 Jan to June.
it gets very hot in FL, but especially from March all the way to September, peaking in July, August
in the upper 90s sometimes, more so during the May-September period.
I mean at night….anywhere from 40*-85* yah thats pretty hot
The problem with leaving a kid locked up in a sealed trunk or car is that you just cannot predict the exact weather here.
On a cold night, the kid could suffer from exposure.
On a hot night, suffocation.
I think C n G would have noticed if Caylee started being abnormally sick all the time or seemed to be suffering, so I think she must have been kept inside somewhere, assuming she was being drugged.
I would also be interested in any Benydryl purchases by M prior to June as maybe she used this more tried and true method of childhood unconciousness and recently moved to the risky, but perhaps cheaper, homemade chloroform.
i am not in Orlando though and it is a big state… just speaking of the southern part… very freakin hot… like hell or the inside of NG’s green room I would imagine (for better to roast her guests with for the show):)
only the killer knows what Caylee went through i pray she was not alive when the killer put that duct tape around her head and sufficated her ,
sweet little innocent child hope whoever did this & we are quite sure its that thing in Jail,, burns in hell, if there is one …. suffers for the rest of her life physically
we must pray for Caylee
Pickles,
Nights rarely get below 40 in the Orlando area. Every once in a blue moon, it frosts.
But typical is closer to low 60’s to low 70’s at night.
hello everyone! Can’t stay but just letting you know I wasn’t MIA. lol…
I will be on later this evening after NG which appears here at 6:00 PM. Hope to catch ya’ll then! Havent been on the blog for a couple of days so will try to read up!
Gotta head out to class, am giving 60 students personality profile tests tonight …
Hahaha - I would absolutely love to give one to C, G, Leevil and company. I’m pretty sure I already know what their types are, though.
I looked over my student roster and see that I have some students from Law College in my class this semester.
I’m going to ask them as part of their final grade to pick one of the lawyers (defense or prosecution) to follow for the next few months and then “grade” their actions at the end of the semester.
Should be interesting to get their opinions.
Will check the blog when I get back home and hubby is fast asleep.
Keep up the good work and the fight for justice for Caylee. Thank God she has all of you to defend her and protect her interests.
plus baby could have suffocated in there as well. and of course there are other things to consider, like the baby waking up there and making noise in the trunk that someone would hear… no, i do think she left her somewhere and possibly with someone the whole time the nanny crap was being told to people
All I know is Bobo and his official circus act all got strangely quiet after the judge made the little effin baby killr come to court and they got spanked. Running scared or is all this other crap diversion tactics???
Mediawatcher you are a teacher? Right on !!!
Have fun!!
CHSAH Hiya , cya tonight. Hurry Back
goldie… well we know that so many people love a good circus… if they did not, NG would be out of a job and bozo would not be getting so much free pr for his bozo the circus act.
do we know how the ants came to hire PI Casey? did they know him before? was he banging precious (aka psycho)?
Its because they suck..and well she sucks and she thinks she can sit idly by in her cell while her team of choads can take care of this for her…big surprise for her…
Pickles said,in January 13th, 2009 at 5:45 pm Mediawatcher you are a teacher? Right on !!!
Have fun!!
Pickles … my mother is a teacher - I am a professor … lol.
She absolutely HATES it when I point that out to her … hahahahaha.
Anyhoo … keep on blogging and I’ll cya when I get back.
hi nana - thank you so much…they found at least two teeth I think…your other questions about the soft tissue i am not sure of…I think she was out there far too long to have anything left on the tape though.
okay ladies and gents… i am going back to bed because pain levels are on a high today… so i need to sleep and dream of a different body for a while… catch you Sherlock Holmes peeps later:)
and btw, pickles … I think you’ll make a wonderful nurse. Caring, considerate, thoughtful, good listener and always working to make everyone comfortable.
You have what I refer to as a “cornerstone” personality … one that everyone else can build a base on.
In otherwords - you are good peeps.
C~A the glue on duct tape is very durable C~A. Hard to work with with gloves too. At least one fingerprint or reverse lift on that tape. Betcha…
Mediawatcher you are a sweet heart…I though am not innocent
thank you…your a sweetie!!!
Pickles said,in January 13th, 2009 at 5:46 pm Its because they suck..and well she sucks and she thinks she can sit idly by in her cell while her team of choads can take care of this for her…big surprise for her…
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That’s exactly why she WAIVES her right to be at ANY of the hearings..she just wants to sit back and not face a damn thing she has done…let her parasites eat away at the states case while she eats pop tarts and widens her a@@ and ego!
So strikland was at this and ALL hearings till trial? I hope he is anyway…he hates her dragged her f~a into court when she said…oh no i don’t wanna go, you go bobo bebe sweet cheeks…say hi to the judge for me….crap!
She has been ordered to be at all hearings so she can’t say she was misrepresented like bobo was trying to lay foundation for….HE NEGLECTED TO GET HER TO SIGN A WAIVER ISN’T THAT RIGHT? He said she verbally waived her right and judge wanted nothing to do with that nonsense so dragged her a@@ in…GOOD FORESIGHT ON HIS PART!
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Ah Pickles … you know what they say, “Innocent until proven guilty!”
And just so no one mistakes my “professor” as an arrogant comment … I was just sharing the inside-joke with y’all that I tease my mother about.
I still can’t get used to being called “Professor” … makes me feel like I am on “Gillians Isle” … hmmmm - Mrs. Howell did have the life, though…
Goldie - yuppers…we are counting on one little print…we already got the one little hair match from the trunk with the death band puttin baby in the trunk post mortem…all we need is a damn print on the tape or the bag…
I am flippin out on the alterior connection to Zanaida and Gonzales with the two house ON HOPE SPRING DRIVE….neighbors…both backin on to the woods baby was left in…WOW…I THINK ONCE SOMEONE SHANKS HER I JAIL, HER MISFIRING DETACHED NETWORK OF LIES WITHIN HER SKULL SHOULD BE DONATED TO SCIENCE….THIS CRAP DIDN’T HAPPEN OVER NIGHT….IT’S SO OBVIOUS IT IS PREMEDITATED…WITH NOW THESE NAMES AND CRAP…BEING SAME AS SITTER THAT NEVER EXISTED….SHE WAS PLANNING THIS THE DAY SHE GAVE BIRTH AND BABY KEPT HER AWAY FROM HER FRIENDS…
JAN - thanks for that link of the MAPS/names. That’s what I meant/saw. Wanted to share it again with others since the topic came up. Thanks too Sheller.
Mediawatcher … I have a good friend in TX. He teaches music, a PhD. His kids love him, and they call him “DOCTA” in the halls. He loves them too!
Nice life, if it weren’t for the hurricanes!!
Betty1 - yeah … those d*&^ hurricanes …
Docta - lol … I’m sure my students call me B*t*h … but not to my face …
LOL - nah, they all claim to love me and tell the Dean and Provost that my class was the best they ever had …
Hmmm - probably ’cause I don’t make them do too much work and my tests are easy …
Be good, y’all and if you can’t be good while I’m gone, then darn it - have some fun!
I still think she got Zenaida’s name off a register at Saw Grass Apts. Because, Z had been to those apartments and registered something?
My head is just spinning with all this stuff - sure hope we can get some feedback on who Dom Casey was talking to.
I had heard that also, that it is almost impossible to work duct tape with gloves on. There should be some fngerprints.
Sorry to ramble around, but I sit here and read your comments for an hour, then have thoughts about the different subjects you have brought up. You have had some great ideas and theories today. Hope someone from LE or a pros. atty reads these. There is so much to keep straight and think about.
Sorry had to go finish dinner after I posted those links to google earth-
In the whitepages for Gonzalaz, as I’m sure u noticed, it lists 3 people at the residence, the 1st one is a Fredesvind- I want to say it as Fred but does anyone know how it’s said? Just a thought in relation to Fernandaz.
Now how the heck did she manage to associate a ‘real’ Zanieida at Sawgrass or is just beyond me.
Capy, so many coincidences- a girl she went to high school w/ working in the office at Sawgrass, then the 2 houses w/ those names. She is either cleaver beyond comprehension or just damn lucky that enough stuff ( her lies ) kept popping up to make it questionable.
K peeps I finally gots mah copy of the Windows 7 beta so I’ll be strangely quiet tonite as the techie plays wiff his new toy. May see ya’ll laterz!
***flinging one at joooh Pickles!!!***
She’s got Zenaida Fernandez Gonzales suing her for defamation.
If a Zenaida and a Gonzales that live by the woods get too much publicity, they are going to start suing too.
Jrsfarm said,
in January 13th, 2009 at 6:46 pm
Capy, so many coincidences- a girl she went to high school w/ working in the office at Sawgrass, then the 2 houses w/ those names. She is either cleaver beyond comprehension or just damn lucky that enough stuff ( her lies ) kept popping up to make it questionable.
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Psychopath JR…damn near photographic memory. Helps with the lies. Can remember trivial details about things that other folks would forget.
I’m not sure how it ties in, I read where someone posted it the other day & went to read it, then saw the body was pretty much on the property lines between the 2 & thought damn odd.
Guess if they combine houses they might as well, could atleast get an attorney like everyone else in Orlando who knows the Ants
true story Goldie, 20ish yrs ago i went to visit my sil in the hospital, nervous breakdown i think- anyway another girl there took up w/ me- asked my name, phone # address, i didn’t think anything of it & just told her to shut her up. mind u she wrote nothing down but i did hear her mouthing my address over & over a few x’s. a few days or week later i get a call, ta da, from my new friend, rofl, took me awhile to get rid of her.
so yea i know what ur saying, it actually scared the sh~t out of me when she remembered all my info, even things i wasn’t talking to her about & all but shows up at my door.
JR - It’s just too damn mind bending now with the second reference to both names….how is this even friggin possible…I would def. say she took freds name for a second surname. Is she that f’ing crazy….that she took the house names…and made up the name Zanaida Fernandez Gonazles….THEN….she looked up someone in the area with THAT NAME… the one that is suing her…stalked her personal info…..all the while knowing she was going to kill caylee and dump her near the “house” woods…zanaida (4701 4709) gonzales..( i still her saying to leevil “SHE IS CLOSE”..
so she watches this zanaida and waits for her chance to somehow tie her into the whole nanny thing at sawgrass….and thats where she got her description of the car…but comes up with a different description of the nanny as to really f everyone up..OMG…
How is this even possible…HELP! I can’t sort it out…just blabbin i think…
it all “so” boils down to pre-med….there is no way on this green earth that anyone on that jury will buy into any kind of accident….
C~A hey there! I only know what I read lol, I didn’t think of her looking up someone w/ that name. It sure kept people off her trail while chasing the leads. She was able to waste enough time for the rains to come & then decomp for enough along could be hard to determine ( since we still don’t know what she did for sure ).
Your theory is better than one I have, that she took those names & found a real person. Psychos, I believe, r big into mind games even when it means their own skin. Someone correct me if that’s not true, but what I’ve read is they like the game as much as anything. So then it makes some kind of sense, huh?
I can’t sort it out either, but the bottom line , like you say, pre-med, no accident. This whole thing is spreading out - before long everyone is going to be on trial for accessory or something. Leevil, his atty, C, G, the PIES diggin in the woods
i wonder how long those people have lived at those addresses? i know kiomarie said a gonzalaz lived down the street in her interview but would be interesting if they’re long term residents- i.e. her pre- med & memory. she may have even known the property line if a survey was done for any reason when she was kid.
SHE is mind boggling.
why so many would get their hands dirty is confusing. what was dominic going to do w/ the body- he would have destroyed evidence the way he searched, then was he going to call the cops? if not, why would he want to help M out by destroying evidence??
Jane V.M. is on now.
After her NG.
Later ..
one thing i know is if she duct taped baby in a lame effort to look like kidnappin…she burned her own ass…no tape …would mean state could not prove ‘MURDER’ in my mind…cause she could have choked on a candy since no trauma to bones and no soft tissue to show brusing and maybe our toxi tests will come back negative…she could have walked…without the tape…there is no other evidence to date that would ‘SUGGEST’ or prove without a doubt it was murder!
The other reason I feel she waited the 31 days was she might have thought they could not identify baby with no blood, body fluids or physical resembelance….How did they identify her positively caylee? The hair?
And if it werent for that one little hair..and the match to the hair on the reamins..and the hair in the trunk having death band….they couldn’t prove without a doubt that m had that baby body in her possession after death.
So the tape say murder as far as hard evidence goes and the one little hair says it’s me caylee..
in my mommys trunk after she killed me…caylee left that little hair so killer would pay…GOOD JOB CAYLEE..all of 2.9 years..
*flicks boogers* right back at joooh Fish!!!
thankfully she hung herself in the process. and now even if she used cold med’s to sedate the tape can’t be explained away.
did they say C sent an email to wkmg on JVM, am i hearing that right?
YO JAN!!!
CheckYOmail lady…
I don’t believe that any of this new info is going to make a difference in the case against M. Its just a new topic to discuss on national television about the case. No body gets rating of boring topics.
I pray that Kronk doesn’t get to distraught over the situation, and when he said< ” No GOOD DEED, GOES UNPUNISHED. ” Its hitting the nail on the head.
Back in Aug. It was a damn circus about the phone pings, If the dry areas around the woods were searched and cleared. I’m sure the police just assumed that with all the new water, why get wet, if they searched prior.
I would do the same thing if I were a cop. They wear 30 lbs of protection, I wouldn’t want to walk in a foot of water for a welhem.
Orange county is a large crime area in florida.
The focus was the airport at that time!!!!
CA, Your right about the tape. She might have watched one two many movies, and just assumed that every kidnapping gets the tape. But, two sides of a coin. Staged alibi or accidental alibi. She choose stage.
I hope she rots in jail for it…
Allie, i hope ur right & none of the ‘dust storms’ have any bearing at trial. no amount of zanieda’s, pi’s, or other defense bs changes the fact that M & M alone killed her child- then began her game & web of lies.
Unfortunately the “legal analyst” for wftv news thinks the interview with Kronk on GMA this morning was a VICTORY for the defense because now BB can claim all kinds of tampering with the remains and throw all kinds of doubt on LE competence etc. If you want to read the very depressing article it is listed on the home page of wftv.com
allie - I think it was accidental alibi “wanna be” that is one of the strongest pieces of evidence for murder….unless she fesses up and say it was an accident and I tried to cover it up….then she is still up the creek…bozo can’t get her out of this one either way…if she didn’t tape the baby…they couldn’t prove murder without cause of death…there just would be no proof…KILLR IS F’D…BY HER OWN DECEIPT AND MANIPULATION….BACKFIRED BIG TIME…she’s not smart at all…you can be manipulating and twisted and still be an IDIOT…mindless scum
If Casey’s finger print is on the tape and/or bag, It’s over for her.
Hey guys! Wazz up? I just read where Cindy has been madly e-mailing. She must be having media withdrawal.
Cindy Anthony Defends Daughter In E-Mail
Casey Anthony Remains Jailed On Murder Charge
POSTED: Tuesday, January 13, 2009
UPDATED: 5:36 pm EST January 13, 2009
Especially for mytwocents ; ) http://www.clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html
ORLANDO, Fla. — In an e-mail obtained by Local 6 News that was sent by Cindy Anthony three days ago, she wrote that her daughter, Casey Anthony, never harmed Caylee and that fact would be proven, presumably in court.
Cremation is a win-win-win for the Defense Team, of BOZO, C.and G.,and M.
1. Real Funerals cost money, Cremation is much much cheaper. Right.
2. They can *REALLY* get rid of Caylee then, once and for all - just dump her ashes where they found her or anywhere else.
3. Caylee can’t EVER be exhumed for later examinations if anything turns up.
Lawyers said on JVM said that ants lawyer is just putting up a smoke screen, when saying”People might dig up her grave …” They probably decide on a plan, then try to figure out a “logical reason” for their actions for the public.
PHYSIC is saying SHE was on the other end of the phone. Later …
I KNEW they would cremate her! They want to make, and HOLD onto as much money as they possibly can!
So they are thinking of doing or did cremation….to prevent “grave robbers”
BS!
And on wesh.com a psychic confirms she was on the phone with Dominic Casey when he was searching. Sheeeeee….t!
“A psychic confirmed to WESH 2 News that she was on the phone with the Anthony family’s private investigator in November as he searched land near where Caylee Anthony’s remains were found.
Ginnette Matcia Lucas said Tuesday that after studying maps of the Orange County area where the Anthonys lived and holding a teddy bear that belonged to Caylee, she had that vivid dream on Nov. 15.
“It actually woke me up at three in the morning,” said Lucas, who is one of many psychics who called authorities and the family during the search for Caylee.
She said she was on the phone with Dominic Casey as he searched an area on Nov. 15. Caylee’s remains were found in that area about a month later.”
The one thing that I do find disturbing is the email sent to wftv news. C emails and claims she is sticking by her daughter and her daughter wouldn’t have hurt Caylee. But the facts are M was trying to hurt C by hurting Caylee. So C is still in denial or this a hell of an act going on here.
I would like to know who in that family really loved Caylee cause i don’t think that C is a voice advocate for her as much as she claims.
betty1 — I’m waiting for the ants to think of “donating” the ashes to an out of work chimney sweep so they can take the whole thing off their taxes. (and be rid of Caylee forever).
I am surprised their house hasn’t been bombed yet.
PSYCHIC ooops sorry. Rushing, upset!
allie - I must have missed something. What email that C sent to wftv?
allie ~ I agree that no one in the ant household seems to care about Caylee. It’s as if Caylee is an object and not a real person.
mytwocents - see my 8:01 post - added link for you.
mytwocents said,in January 13th, 2009 at 8:06
“I am surprised their house hasn’t been bombed yet”
I have often wondered where a good nut is when u need one lol!
MTC, Jane ’s 7:00 show hit on some updates from the ANts, One being the email from C Three days ago to WFTV, stating that M would never hurt Caylee.
Here is the link to the calls-for-service inquiry response that Mr. Kronk made on 08/13/08. The officer’s name is Richard Cain and he spent 25 minutes at the site and dismissed as trash only.
http://www.wftv.com/news/18473765/detail.html
WESH is reporting:
Source: Deputy Faces Discipline Over Caylee
Deputy Met With Roy Kronk In August
POSTED: 10:08 am EST January 13, 2009
UPDATED: 6:33 pm EST January 13, 2009
ORLANDO, Fla. — A source told WESH 2 News that they expect disciplinary action against the Orange County Sheriff’s Office deputy who Roy Kronk says basically blew him off four months before Caylee Anthony’s remains were discovered.
http://www.wesh.com/news/18469488/detail.html
Regarding place of death…
the neighbor witnessing her back her car in, and the cadaver dog hitting on backyard, to me suggest she died at the home and was taken away in car.
I cannot find logic in if she died in the car, then why any need to bring her into the backyard leave her there, then take her out again? sounds too risky.
plus, if nobody take psychics seriously why are we listening to this stuff now. Most of all the tips that came in from Caylee sighting and released to BB were all tips from psychics, and he didn’t want to follow up on any of this hog wash….So why are we going to listen to PI’s lies about ill daughters and psychic readers?
Hmmmm. Seems so odd how all these important phone calls people are claiming happened aren’t showing up on these phone bills.
Nightingale ~ I agree. I think Caylee’s body at one point was put in the sandbox and covered with thel id.
Hey MTC, help me out here. What are “pavers?”
Is that the slab of foundation in the back yard of the Ants house.?
Sounds to me like this “psychic” may be a friend of DC and is trying to cover for him.
Allie here is a website to show you what pavers are. http://www.belgard.biz/
That way you can actually see it.
Paw69, Your right, to many psychics in this game of cat and mouse.
Ok, psychic phone bill doesn’t show up. HUMMM!
Now its the phone companys fault.
It seems like everyone wants to blame someone else.
Thank you paw
Your Welcome Allie
I had not heard about an email from C to wftv.
I thought the ants hated wftv. Did anyone see a news report on that email or see the email itself?
If C really did email wftv I bet their lawyer Conway is having a fit. He needs a roll of duct tape of his own for C’s mouth AND hands!
Can’t stay out of the spotlight.I just despise the apewoman.
We just saw it on NG M2C.
Paw, Are you telling me that within 12 feet away from the remains, there were pavers?
Did we not say on this site that M most likely put a ” marker” near CAylee.
I did hear Padilla say pavers were within feet away. Is this a link to the back yard?
Or were these pavers holding the bag down?
What did padilla just say? Two sets of pavers?
But I’m sure C’s right. M would never hurt Caylee. Just let her go missing for a month and not tell anyone and have a good time partying. I mean why worry, right? But, no. She’d never hurt her.
Someone SHUT C UP!
For a wooded area, there is a lot of pavers.
the way the psychic talks she sounds very credible or really good liar….she doesn’t stumble at all…talks quite fast…seems to offer alot of information…EXCEPT ONE THING
PROOF THAT THE PHONE CALL EVEN TOOK PLACE…what does she mean “it isn’t showing up”…that’s crap….goes to my dads house..etc…whydoesn’t she get her OWN bills?
Last caller asked; has there ever been ONE known and proven call between caseys phone and anyone called zanaida…..she keeps our child for almost 2 years and there isn’t ONE CALL FROM MOMMY TO NANNY? VERY VERY DAMNING!
Allie, the link I posted is just pavers, a company who does pavers.
Padilla says the pavers that the PI was searching by were not the pavers that Caylee was found by
Thank you, PAW and Allie! I’m just surprised that it wasn’t on wftv.com news when they received it a couple of days ago. Or maybe I missed that report.
Whatever happened with C’s supposedly “hacked” email problem over Thanksgiving??? LOL! IF it was hacked I’m sure she couldn’t report it because (a) she doesn’t trust LE and (b) it would require an investigation and I am sure there are LOTS of emails C does not want LE to know about!
And, since C was so willing to trot out Wanda Weary and HER sighting of Caylee why not trot out the psychic who was telling Dominic Casey where to look? LOL!
Ya know M2C, it’s getting to the point of not being able to trust anyone in this case. So Sad!
Well, I’m out for the night. Have a good night everyone. (((hugs)))
The truth in the words of C, ” M would not hurt Caylee,” No M probably would not of hurt Caylee to just hurt her. But, Being a spiteful bitch towards her own mother C, M blames her mother C for the hurt that she caused on Caylee. Thats the truth.
M believes in her own lies, and we know she is not stupid, cause she thought this out in details. The clues in her own words tell the true story.
C~A said,in January 13th, 2009 at 8:44 pm
she keeps our child for almost 2 years and there isn’t ONE CALL FROM MOMMY TO NANNY? VERY VERY DAMNING!
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I JUST NOTICE I TYPED “OUR” CHILD…I DID NOT INTENTIALLY TYPE “OUR” CHILD AT ALL! THAT WAS AN HONEST FRAUDIAN SLIP….my mind was thinkin her and I automatically put OURS and didn’t even catch it…My brain is thinkin one thing and my heart totally overides it…i didn’t even catch it as I wrote it.
That really blows my mind…
nite paw, thanks for the info tonight.
I guess I’ll type out for now too.
night everyone, I’ll caught up with ya’ll soon enough.
me too…I’m blasin off on my last post…time to rest! (((((night night cyber fam)))))) xo
that would be “blastin off”…
MTC … you are SO funny!! Sell to a Chimney Sweep!
Hey, NG will be on again, in 45 minutes. I saw the ants “PAVERS” in their back yard in a video on NG. (We were going to try to see if they were the same as at the crime scene). Little Caylee is there in a bathing suit. I cannot tell what size they are but look to be mostly “square”??? Could be about 8-9″ square?
What was the shape and size of the “PAVERS” in the P.I.s video? Similar? Paddy said pavers were in TWO different places,100′ apart did he say? Lordy … Lordy - still LOL at MTC’s last post! No one but possibly another sociopath could write a Script like this!! This never ends. Might be the downfall of the Prosecution. I don’t like this at all!
mytwocents said,in January 13th, 2009 at 8:40 pm I had not heard about an email from C to wftv.
I heard it was on wkmg, here’s the link-
clickorlando.com/news/18471440/detail.html
mytwocents the email from Cindy was not sent to wftv, it was sent to the mother of the child who once supported the Anthony’s at the very beginning of this circus. Why Cindy would do that I have no idea. Especially since we know that the daughter was hospitalized for emotional trauma over all this and the mother ended up hating the Anthony’s… to my understanding anyway.
Spacely lol, you win today’s award for the best thought of the day when you said:
“Someone named Zeneida lives next to the woods where they found Caylee’s body? I the implications are staggering. Now, the whole story does make sense just like Jose said it would.”
LOL… GREAT post!
I’m simply responding to some of today’s post that I’m reading right now.
mytwocents, I couldn’t agree with you more regarding your January 13th, 3:43 pm post!
hello my friends….is anybody home???? lol…
missed NG the first round so am going to try to catch it here in about 20 min. STILL haven’t got up on all the bloggin’ but wanted to say…..I MISS MY BLOGGIN’ FRIENDS!!
Hi guys, on that scared monkey posting with the map. I need to let you know I checked those names. One checks out, I did a reverse number lookup and the name matches. The other, with the number not given. The last name matches, but not the first one on the scared monkey blog. Tried to check same address with tax records and the owner name given doesn’t a tax due notice with who lives there for 2008. Maybe they rent? One of the names is good. Does seem pretty coincidental. Of course, then again, I’d be hard pressed to name some of my neighbors 10 houses down. Why she left the body in the trunk for so long? Well, they did have to go rent movies and all on the l6th at Blockbuster. I think she hadn’t decided exactly what would be the best. She probably was pacing and pacing…then went to a neutral place..her June boyfriend. (lol reference to the blog last night) still lmao on that.
omg…..therapist….I see you! It has been 4ever since we’ve crossed bloggin’ paths! lol…good to see you!
pssssttttt - Leevil is the psychic…pass it on. (it’s a secret)
Hey CHSAH… LOL… did you just insult me by saying “Is anybody home?” LOL
I think they use to say that about crazy people who talked to themselves. I know I was doing that a few minutes ago here on the blog… but I’m happy that you didn’t call the guys in the white coats. Anyway, I think those guys stopped wearing white after Labor Day so now we don’t know who to call.
Just pulling your leg!
sheller…..too funny! (i won’t tell if you don’t???? lol) MUMS…the word!
Sheller said, “pssssttttt - Leevil is the psychic…pass it on. (it’s a secret)”
Okay, I will not tell more than three people who will promise not to tell more than three people.
Nah……..there tends to be some ‘crazy’ people on here sometimes (lol), but your not one of them! (lol)
I haven’t read much of the blog for the past two days, trying to get caught up but boy…..you miss ONE day on here and your lost! lol….
question….what’s your take on Kronk? on the up and up or no??? I didn’t get to see his interview and you may have already expressed it but just curious what you think?
I hate “secrets”…..LOL!
CHSAH, I totally believe kronk…
I don’t know who came up with (Sin)dee,
(lee)vil, & (mom)ster but those are pretty funny! I see they have been using them for awhile but just thought I’d acknowledge credit where credit is due! lol….Now we need a new one for George! Casey’s is….. K? See? That’s BB comment during closing arguments……K? See?…..(ok, now we see!)
I think you will enjoy NG tonight…
Therapist, I go from yes to no (Kronk) in like 60 seconds! lol…….Help me with your theory of him?
Therapist….ok….going to watch NG and then I’ll come back and read your response. I can’t pay attention and blog at the same time….I’m not good at multi-tasking! lol…….
Cindy belongs in a mental institution!
1. Her beloved grand daughter, Caylee was with a Nanny. She has never met the Nanny, and didn’t have a phone number for her in case of EMERGENCIES?? Who does that?
2. No photos of Z. by the “Photographer Casey”? What?
3. Caylee showed no reaction when she heard the name Zanny, etc.
4. There are no phone records anywhere showing calls from Z. to Casey, or Casey to Z. (Oh I forgot, C also said, Casey called her, and there was no records of some of her calls, too. Oh.)
5. Everyone I know, checks out places throughly where their children will be staying. M left Caylee at the bottom of some steps, often, to an apartment that is empty. Right.
6. C believes this “Nanny” is so wealthy, she has EVERYTHING needed for Caylee, car seat, shoes, socks, diapers, clothes, toys. She is very rich! So where is she getting her money? Do you know any rich people who baby sit? I don’t.
Is there a Life Insurance Policy on Caylee? I heard something about that.
Cindy said she still believes it was the Nanny.
Even now.
THIS WOMAN should be put away! It is not safe with her on the streets! For one thing, she produces murderers!
See you tomorrow …
Pickles. You have my email address on the secure website sign in, I presume? You can write me directly off the blog to discuss a career as a RN as I is one. I will be happy to share the good, the bad and the ugly.
in between commercials! lol……
Nurse Pickles….where joo be???????
C~A……I see you left….darn!
Pammyliz??????
Therapist…..you are right so far…..very INTERESTING NG tonite! It appears now we have a psychic that has mysterious phone calls that don’t show up on her phone record????? Wonder if she used the same cell company M did??? lol..
CHSAH… thanks for asking… Here are the times of three posts that I made regarding Kronk today:
3:02 pm
1:56 pm
1:27 pm
Please don’t be afraid to let me know if it sways you either way. I respect that we all have our own opinions on this case.
There is something I just thought of. Was just relooking over the crime scene photos. I remember they said back when they started the searches in that are that it was under water and when they went back they said there was a chained link fence up. Now Kronk never said anything about a fence and it doesn’t show one in the photos or no mention of LE having to take down a fence so where did the fence come from.
I have a question if anyone can help….
Is there a picture of the little shed or playhouse you guys have been chatting about? I am interested to see what it looks like.
thanks
CHSAH… too funny about the psychic and M using the same cell phone company. LOL
You’re like me… My TV is all the way across the house from my computer room so I can’t watch TV and blog too.
Dak, if I’m not mistaken the chained link fence was only partway up on the side Caylee’s remains were found and totally up on the other side of the street. Evidently someone owns both pieces of property.
Oh okay.
The reason I asked is I found this.
In their second search, says Albritton, which covered a 25-mile radius around the Anthonys’ Orlando house, the area in question was fenced off for new construction of homes. “It was by then private property, and if it’s fenced off or the owner posted “No Trespassing” — unless we can get the property owner to give permission — we can’t enter the area.”
Hey Mediawatcher… I think you have a twin sister on here or else I’ve been doing too much personality analyzing. You and ‘Concerned in Texas’ are like two peas in a pod, highly intelligent, with a great sense of humor, very approachable and you’re both professors.
These days we have to have a cattle call to get CIT to join us. She’s multi talented… she yodels, tap dances, juggles, and plays the accordion… all while hitting the bull’s-eye with her six shooter!
Timbit, I saw the “playhouse” in the ants backyard in one of those videos at http://www.youtube.com
It is one of those little, colorful plastic ones, near the sand box I think. They don’t have a very big yard. Can also see the recent patio G just put in. It’s made of “pavers” I think. I am not sure what is meant by the “shed”.
There is some little house in the P.I. video. Empty. Owned by WHO can you believe? I think a Gonzolas. Maybe that’s the shed?
Dakdude3 The POOR people that would buy a house on THAT property with THAT high water table!
STOP THE WORLD I WANNA GET OFF!
Yeah I bet that land will be hard to sell, unless they sell it to someone who wants to set it up as a permanent memorial.
Hi If this is true per psychic & PI Casey about the phone calls, search etc., then why on Dec.11th when remains were found, didn’t PI Casey just say then OMG, I was right there within feet of where she actually was and was directed there by this psychic! She’s amazing! Common sense tells me he would be in awe of her and singing her praises and crediting her for knowing the whereabouts of Caylee. Yet the first statement he made was that he was sent there on a tip from one of M’s school chums. Why didn’t he tell the truth in the first place if he has nothing to hide????? Something stinks.
I am going to send a link and when you look at the picture look at twhat the bottom arrow is pointing at and tell me what you see, just curious.
edited by Jan Barrett — Sorry Dak, that link was a little too creepy so I removed it out of respect for Caylee’s memory. I am not trying to be disrespectful to you, I just hope you understand that but I think it is best deleted in here.
LawyersMom, great post at 11:06 pm! I never thought of that but you are so right… he should have been singing the psychics praises all over the place right away.
Like NG said… I think he’s backed himself into a corner and he’s going down… and hopefully he’ll be taking the rest of the Anthony’s with him.
Dak, why do I have a feeling I don’t want to know what that is???
PAW69… I can’t stop laughing at what you said above….too funny!
What is it?
You probaly don’t want to know i don’t think it is what it is suppossedly to be, just wantes to see what other people thought. Sorry if posting it was offensive or disrespectful.
I didn’t look either.
Dak have you looked at it close up?
Well according to the person who posted yhe link it is suppossed to be a skull.
That’s what I thought. I had to copy it to my desktop to see it closer.
So what do you think of the pic PAW.
I’m too tired to do the Tango with Dak tonight… I have a hard time following him without stepping on his toes.
well, considering looking at the leaves around it. The leaves are bigger than that part of the picture.
What do you mean doing the tango.
But none the less, it’s creepy.
I looked for awhile and for a minute I could see it but then decided it wasn’t. It was just something I found on another blog and just wanted see what others would think and see. It is meant as anything for or against any one involved in the case. And defenitely wasn’t meant to start any controversy or arguements.
Thats what I thought to, creepy especially since someone had the time to actually focus on the pic blow it up and all, totally whacked in the head.
therapist…if your still here…I’m reading your posts you gave me. (thanks!)…
hi paw!
Hi Therapist! Great posts you had today. Still snowed in?
I also think Leevil’s attorney has a huge problem with the truth as well. Did you see the video of him squirming his way around about previous statements he had made about his client & the tape? Is there something in the water in Florida that the truth is a novelty??
I would have to say no, because like I said, the leaves are bigger than that part of the pic in question. But still, it’s creepy.
Hiya CHSAH
Yeah Lawyrsmom it defenitely in the water here in Florida(LOL), unlees you are drinking Zephyrhills bottled water.
Hey Dak, I know you don’t mean harm in posting that. Next time just Type WARNING. So people know it may not be something they’d want to view.
Also Lawyersmom some ofs here say that don’t drink the Florida water or you might get prgnant too(LOL).
But it does go to show how far people are willing to go in this case.
Oh Okay sorry I will defenitely use the warning before a post like that thanks.
Therapist……you give a pretty convincing case! lol….you need to change your name to “wannabe Lawyer”! lol…..I’m going with your instinct…..your almost always “right on”……I can’t argue your comments and not going to even try! lol. I agree and it all makes sense to me. I wanted him to be a “good guy” in all this mess anyway……we need a few more of them since we already have a mess of shady people involved!
your welcome Dak.
I reaaly love Florida but sometimes I wonder if I should move away, too much craziness here.
As far as Dominic Casey being on the phone with a pyschic, I have a hard time believing that.
LawyersMom, it’s very cold and we have a lot of snow on the ground but I can now get out and about.
I did see that video of Leevil’s attorney…LOL, I bet Leevil is as angry as heck and is looking to choke him… since it runs in the family!
I laughed at what you said about there being something in the Florida’s water… it sure isn’t truth serum.
Therapist wannaB - rofl. When I read mediawatcher’s posts I thought someone was playing a joke on me! I thought it was ME until I read that her Mom is a teacher (whew! ok, the world is not upside-down).
Sooo, while you here listing my talents (and yes I really DO tap dance! but no yodeling….yet) I was out getting my first Hurricane Ike injury, 4 mos after the storm! I saw the big yellow moon rising so I was chasing after it to take pics at the bay. While running through a field, I fell in a hole! ouch! It was dark, and I didn’t know this area was still torn up from Ike! Let me tell ya, grace personified! lol
Back to topic - my head is spinning from all the most recent news. The supposed psychic (w/ no phone records!), Kronk, Dom Casey, Hoover, and of course, C’s latest email illustrating her continued support for the person who murdered her grandchild!
Hello mediawatcher, fellow prof!
Was the lawyer back peddling on NG tonite, Dominick Casey’s or Hoover’s attorney? I missed that part.
To bad it isn’t truth serum in the Florida water. Florida could make a lot of money off it, by bottling it. And can you send us some that snow you’re getting.
CHSAH, thanks for your kind words… you’re sooooo sweet! You’re right… we need more good guys in this case, of course most of them are on LE working hard to prosecute M.
Howdy CHSAH, PAW and all!
It’s so frustrating… it’s taking ten minutes between every click I make.
Sorry Dak… I was just kidding about the Tango!
Hey CIT!!!!! Nice to see you! Sorry to hear about the “graceful” fall you took….I bed with your dance talent….you STILL made it look graceful
lol….
Just when we think we here it all on this case…..BOMBSHELLS! I’ll bet before this is done and over with……there is going to be many more characters coming into play!
WHAT… am I invisible?
***corrections****
bed was suppose to be “bet”…
here was suppose to be “hear”…..grrrrrr….
Its okay Therapist I was hoping you were kidding, we’re cool.
Oh no….therapist…YOU are not invisible. I see only one invisible person on this blog and it aint you, Paw or CIT
Alright, I’m going back to bed now. my brain hurts emotionally and mentally. ughhh. (((hugs)))
therapist…if you wanna make brownie points with me ;)…..can you help answer my 11:55 question? (LOL) Was that Leevils attorney or one of the pi’s???
Its okay CHSAH if you were reffering to me as invisible. I won’t take it personally.
Okay all is well Annie… I didn’t see the “all”
I’m not like that anyway, I was just joking. I hope you didn’t get offended at me getting bored, when I was here by my self for a while tonight, and poking a little fun at you.
And what is this about a fall?
Nite paw….sweet dreams!
Therapist - No, your invisible dust is not working cuz I can see you just fine!
CHSAH - Oh yeah, sort of like landing a grande jete below the stage! lol. Glad it wasn’t on video and I’ll never know!
Are you guys frozen yet?
Interesting that some experts are certain that this video will hurt the defense, while others argue the opposite. Most appear to think it’ll hurt m and possibly even the Ants, and I do, too.
Therapist, glad you’re out & about again…myself I get cabin fever.
It’s definitely not truth serum, so it must be money. I have a hunch we ain’t seen nuttin yet compared to the paid liars we’re about to see the defense parade out during the trial. This really will be the trial of the century and will far surpass OJ, Scott Peterson & M.Jackson. That is WHEN it finally begins.
CHSAH, that was Lee’s attorney.
ugh…..you are right about the postings taking forever therapist! Don’t make me say “your are right” more than twice in a blog! lol….
thanks Therapist (give yourself 10 points! lol..)
So CIT AND THERAPIST….what are your feelings on the psychic tonite on NG?
Lawyersmom……hello to you as well. Don’t think I’ve blogged with you yet? What is your take on the psychic as well?
CIT, Your graceful “flamingo” stance makes me tend to believe that you could make even the most disgraceful of falls……LOOK GRACEFULLY planned!
Concerned in Texas said, I saw the same thing happen with the OJ case and it drove me crazy so now I’m taking what the experts say with a grain of salt.
I really want to give the psychic the benefit of doubt about the phone records, but then I remember that I don’t believe in psychics.
Seriously though, it sounds v hinky. Why did she appear all of a sudden? Why did Dom Casey lie about it?
Hard to trust her, since she admitted that she “instructed” Dom Casey on how to snoop around w/o disturbing a crime scene. Either he doesn’t follow instructions well, or she’s clueless. I just hope that he can be charged with something–he would have disturbed the scene had he found Caylee.
Arrest them all!
What do you think, CHSAH?
Hi CHSAH. My 11:06 post somewhat sums it up as far as my opinion on the psychic. I think it’s a bunch of hooey. Phone records thus far are non-existent(?) and D.Casey didn’t disclose how “close” he was to the remains where they were eventually found. Why? Even though he wasn’t the one to locate Caylee’s remains, why didn’t he disclose this up front and how declare how brilliant this psychic is.
LawyersMom, please forgive me for taking so long to reply but my computer is as slower than molasses… I watched all those cases closely too and next I’m waiting for the Drew Peterson case… I know he hasn’t been arrested but he will be down the road I think.
I agree with your analysis CIT. I don’t know about believing or not believing in psychics. I think that it is possible certain individuals hold “special” abilities but I certainly don’t think this psychic is on the up and up. Why didn’t she come forward right off the bat when Kronk found the body?? She could have called LE and told them about the PI’s and her experience before this all came to light with them??? Seems too fishy to me. It’s people like her that makes people wonder about psychics ya know?
Later guys , going to bed.
p.s….I don’t think it was HER that Dumb (I mean DOM) was talking to at that moment on the tape either. I’m taking bets on Leevil? What about you on the phone call
Goldie …YUCK!I do remember that Geraldo was a ladies man, yes. He was young then.
Concerned in TX. You know, under normal circumstances, we could think …”When the facts come in about who D. Casey was talking to on his cell phone on the video, we can decide.. we’ll know!” BUT, in THIS case, where 99.5% of everything everyone is saying, is LIES, how can WE EVER know what the TRUTH is about ANYTHING? WHAT a FOREIGN word in this case - TRUTH! Wouldn’t surprise me if they carry our a Juror or two… too intense, too insane, too disgustingly SICK.
Okay… here is my disclaimer… I notice that I have been putting in extra words, like the, to, but, there, huckleberry, etc. tonight, so please simply disregard all those nutty words in any of my sentences and chalk it up to me not having an excuse other than it just being me!
good point, lawyersmom!
therapist - Good advice–I need to keep that in mind about the experts. It’s just so frustrating to hear them bc very few know the facts of this case as well as we all do! I find myself arguing outloud with the tv, nearly every night!
chsah - thanks for the compliment! Just wish I wasn’t so sore! I need to ‘cowgirl up’ and be tough like those Wyoming women who fly off of their snowmobiles!
well shoot, I hate to post and run, but I’ve got to get back to my schoolwork. Re-doing the syllabus, and school begins next week. I’ll be back tomorrow! Nice seeing yall.
Oh no problem, I am having the same problem Therapist, takes 2-3 mins after I hit post for it to appear.
I can’t decide which one of the Peterson’s (Drew or Scott) I’d like to throw in the cell with M, maybe both..Wonder who would come out first? :>) Seriously, I can’t fathom another woman moving in with D.Peterson, just boggles my mind!
Lawyers mom, ok, read your post. Good point! Thanks for redirecting me back there!
Therapist….omg, MY computer is sooooo slow too!
I think when all is said and done, we are going to start seeing the “domino effect.” When charges start coming down for obstruction, etc. everyone is going to start covering their own a**es and spilling the beans on everyone else. In the end, I feel it is all going to come back to M as the murderer….and Leevil helped “cover up”. I don’t think anyone of the players are willing to take the “fall” for anyone else. jmo..
CIT….in Wyoming we say “cowboy up”…in florida they say “lawyer up”…LOL….
GOOD NITE CIT!
GADS … I meant CARRY OUT a Juror. Must go to bed. How can anything ever be decided when one side tells ALL LIES, and the other side only the TRUTH? The only ones that aren’t lying is LE? How will that work then? BOZO and M will roll with the punches and make up their lies (as we know they do), as the case unfolds.Poor, poor, poor Caylee. ‘nite
OH AND CIT…..I’m hurtin’ for certain from the LAST snowmobile trip! lol….I feel your pain!
Thanks CIT, I enjoy all of your posts Therapist, CIT, CHSAH.
Must do some PC housekeeping now to try & speed this up a bit. Not even sure this will post.
LawyersMom… Scott Peterson is off my mind now because even if he can never pay the price for taking a life… a beautiful life of a child and mother to be, he at least lost his freedom.
But Drew is still out there living life to it’s fullest. We all know he killed his wife and hid her body but I’m not sure he will ever come to justice… I just keep hoping to hear one day that he is charged.
CIT… I’m in the dark about your fall but I totally understand you not wanting to share what happened. Just take care of yourself!
CHSAH I’m ripping my hair out in clumps with this slowwwwww computer. I think with mine it’s more than just this site being bogged down.
Nite Betty1, sorry I didn’t notice you in here too. WE knew what you meant
Therapist, I think it’s the site b/c my computer is NEVER this slow! yikes!!!
CHSAH - lol. Well, next time you’re on your snow horse (snowmobile), I double-dog dare you to holler “giddy up” the whole day! Maybe throw in a few yee-haws!
Therapist, I fear that during the pauses, while awaiting this S.L.O.W. site, you’ve fallen in between the webpages!
…. yoohoo, do we need to send in rescuers?
Well, I’ll catch you guys later. This was short, sweet, and slow!
Hi Betty1… sorry to have to leave but this slow computer is driving me crazy so I better leave while I still have some hair left on my head!
Night all!
Therapist, good point with the comparison between Drew and Scott Peterson! I think Drew will be charged in the bath tub drowning incident soon. I bet they will have trouble in the Stacy Peterson case b/c they have nothing to go by (yet). He thinks he is clever (like M and Scott P.), but I’ll bet he made a few mistakes along the way with killing Stacy too.
Nite therapist! Glad we finally caught up with each other!
CIT….oh man….a DOUBLE DOG DARE???? lol…
Nite to all…..putting my puter to rest too!
therapist - oh, I thought you were kidding. Maybe you didn’t see my 11:53 pm post?
… On my way home from the store earlier, I noticed the huge yellow moon rising, shining so bright, and I had to go see its glade shimmering on the water.
Drove to the bay with my camera, but while running to the waters edge, I fell in a hole in the ground! It was dark, and I didn’t realize that this bayside park was still so torn up from Hurricane Ike. Soon found holes all over the place where pylons, etc had been. Wish I wouldn’t have been wearing my nice, clean suede boots.
That’s it! My story of grace while searching for a poetic moment under a bright moon! lol
And on that, I’ll say goodnight!
OOPS… BIG blunder on my part…
Concerned in Texas, I’m so sorry that I missed seeing your 11:53 pm post. Evidently, I only scrolled back to your 11:57 pm post and thought that was your first one. Now, like BB would say, I understand! You did give us a vivid picture of your running across the field in near darkness… I hope you heal fast and all is well soon.
Maybe this song will make you feel better…
Do nut fersake us oh our Texan … on this our bloggin dayyyyy.
LOL… Can you guess which tune you sing that to?
(I have to go to bed now… I’m even making myself sick!)
Answer is “High Moon” I mean High noon!
Darn got distracted … still around here.
I guess the ants NEVER HEARD of *Burial Vaults*! They are in buildings,even much safer than the building little caylee is in now. No robberies there, eh? Are there grave robbers that do “Vaults”?
Ooops I forgot, that would cost them even MORE money than a normal funeral and burial. Their goal is takeall the money in that they can … and give out as little as possible. MHO
I think they ALL deserve each other. I wish all 4 of them could continue living together in one jail cell - forever.
“Nite girls. Sleep tight.
I don’t quite know the rules of blogging yet, but I think it’s in “real time”,(live) yes? I will try to remember to sign out too. I did remember a couple times.At first, I thought y’all were just being real sweet and friendly like! (Ha hanging around my TX friends too much me thinks!)
CIT … so sorry you hurt yourself! Ice first 24 hours, yes? HA, ask Pickles! I am half asleep now, another Nurse on here too can’t remember who. DARN! She will help too, I am sure!! **God Bless Nurses!** They are GREAT! Have helped my husband so much, and me too back in PA! OK,now Lucy’s been out (Beagle/Basset rescue) so finally, to bed! Tomorrow,I guess MORE LIES.
Remember with the ice treatments, 10 min on and 10 minutes off, and no direct contact between ice and skin!
awww, you guys are such sweet, caring folks! I thought everyone would just laff at me (but ‘with’ me…) but you guys are so nice! (Can you tell I was raised with all brothers–darn mean ole boys!). I’ll be fine–just a little sore, but I truly do appreciate the concern.
betty — I re-read the posts and noticed I missed a comment you wrote to me. So sorry. But excellent point! Yes, even after all this time, we still all expect the ‘players’ to act like normal human beings. Lucy is such a great name for a beagle!
See yall manana.
hmmmm….. re: my post 5:ish pm 13th…
hey thanks for all the support… I think I am out of here.
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE
morning lilred…sorry about your ra hope your feeling better, as for meds i have to take them eday for my back after awhile you just have to take them to feel right anyway…hope you doing better sucks to hurt in the cold makes it worse~anna
PAW69 said,in January 13th, 2009 at 11:28 pm Dak, why do I have a feeling I don’t want to know what that is???
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I would the chance to see what it was Dak posted! Do you remember the source or have a link? ANYONE?
lilred dont take anything personal looks like they were in a conversation…sometimes my posts dont get responded to right away just have to repost hope you stay…im gonna go to other blog not so slow~anna c~a you here yrt????
Lil - I apologize, I did read your post but it’s kinda nuts here at supper time…your goofy anyway so we won’t notice
(kidding)
hi anna ~ we moving?
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CA, No, you don’t want to see it. Trust me.
do you want to this one is sooo slow the other one doesnt have as many posts…you decide
paw..now you got me curios to….
im gonna go to other blog cant even post right on this on…guys commin???
All I have to say is, it’s not what the original person who put it on a different blog made it out to be. But it is very disturbing.
what other blog?
paw~ the 2 article dont know how to do the # like pickles does the 2 one on the home page
We Have Moved To http://www.bloggernews.net/119370
HEY E1 WERE ON OTHER BLOG 2 ARTICLE ON HOME PAGE DONT KNOW HOW TO LEAVE 3 LIKE PICKLES DOES JUST GO TO HOME PAGE 2 ARTICLE SEE YOU THERE
GOOD MORNING! We have moved to Article # 119372
Title: “Caylee Anthony – BNN Radio Segment Sunday Jan/11 3PM CST”
If you go to the BNN home page scroll down for the SECOND Caylee related article.
CORRECTION - We have moved to Article 119370
(The title is correct in my post above)
!:!:!WARNING:!:!:!
Re: Above post, Dak’s link (that has been removed by Jan)
Since ppl are still discussing it and curious, in case you missed the explanatory posts, I wanted to MAKE SURE that everyone knows what DAK was attempting to get everyone to view
……. a pic of what some think is CAYLEE’s skull!
(so if you are tempted, you’ve been forewarned)
I’m OUTRAGED that anyone would try to trick caring compassionate souls into viewing something so disturbing. And without warning. I’m v grateful that I didn’t click on the link before Jan so kindly removed it. I would have been seriously upset, distrubed, and haunted by such a vision, as many here would have been.
PAW - I’m so sorry that you were tricked and hope that the pic you viewed didn’t upset you.
Such a picture (whether real or not) is a disgrace to Caylee’s sweet memory–yet more exploitation. She deserves better, and it warms my heart that by loving her and honoring her cherished memory, we all indeed DO offer her BETTER.
***HEARTS FOR CAYLEE***
If that’s true DAK shame on you and shame on whoever is passing out such devious and disgusting garbage.
OK now I am on complete sensory overload.
The latest C still maintaining her daughter adored that child and she is totally innocent, Lee’s lawyer obviously lying about the crime scene tapes, Kronk being accused of misdeeds,or as he says “No good deeds go unpunished.” Mr. Casey the PI saying he was on the cellphone with a psychic,at 9:30am, the psychic saying Verizon lost records of her phone call(sound familiar?)and she spoke to Mr.Casey at 3:00am and 6:00am. WOW who wrote this stuff
CIT, I sent pickles an email to forward to you, okay.
Most of it was mentioned on NG last night SALUKI
My view on the psychic…
It’s tele-pathetic the lies these people come up with in all of this. They need to team up and let wunder-snatch be their coach. She is the only one that seems to be able to come up with lies and hold them firm in her head.
***kicks pebbles around the room***
Goldie, we are at http://www.bloggernews.net/119370#comment-900523
Hi PAW - Thanks. Didn’t get the email yet from pickles but will look for it.
I didn’t click on the link. I was just concerned about people who didn’t see the previous warning and maybe had saved the link.
I’ll catch yall in a bit where you’ve moved — on blog #119370.
By the way Linda Kenney baden whose husband is a pathologist expert Dr.Michael baden, made quite a slip lsat night on Greta van Susteren. He said that they got dna from the remains which proves the father of Caylee. Did anyone catch that?
Gold Fishy - Dak is the one who finally disclosed what was supposedly in the pic. See his post above.
Also, everyone moved to #119370, which is why you’re here kicking pebbles all by your lonesome!!!
Thank Jooh Tex…found it
Saluki - I missed hearing that on Greta and will go look for a transcript to see the context. Thanks!
You might want to re-post that in the blog where everyone moved.
follow the white rabbit……..119402.
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