BNN is happy to announce that at 3PM CST on Sunday January 11, we will be hosting another talk radio show about the Caylee Anthony case.
This case gets stranger by the moment. Judge Stan Strickland for example was faced with having to deal with the Prosecution and Defense at war with each other over the release of Prosecution data concerning the autopsy of the now skeletal remains. The prosecution argued (rightly) that releasing the autopsy photographs would be akin to putting them on Lime Wire, it would be mere minutes before vital evidence is now on the Net.
Our good buddy, the grossly overstated attorney, the guy that has a less than stellar work resume, yes, you guessed it Jose Baez made the argument that these photos and x-rays should be available on a secure server, for his ‘expert’ witnesses to look at.
Not even Nancy Grace’s tame, so called computer expert John Lucich could possibly buy into this idea. I pulled out of the sharp end of the computer industry a few years ago, I prefer to look in from the outside. While I am sure that Nancy means well, sometimes her guests give you pause for thought.
Jose Baez managed to persuade Judge Strickland that it would be OK to put this information on a secure server that would be in Baez’s office, a password would be required to view the information, and no one but the experts will have the data. Well, I have been in the computer business for very very many years, stick the information on an internet connected computer, kiss the data good bye! Someone will break in.
I for one am shocked by Judge Strickland agreeing to the ’secure server’, I’ll bet a dollar it will be less than 24 hours before the photos are on your favorite web site.
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Don’t know what fav website would have those photo’s and if they don’t wont be going there!
I predict monday or tuesday we will be hearing more breaking news!
Finally…
still feel in the dark alone???
if they do* GAH
Pickles… we’re here! We’re all in our places with bright shiny faces!
how anyone with any feelings could exploit this child is beyond me does bb have kids??? any one know??
how anyone with any feelings could exploit this child is beyond me does bb have kids??? any one know??
wish i could be a fly on the wall in one of m &bb meetings bet that would make $$$
*turns on lamp* BETTER?
I say we could replace some of their professionals on NG because NO duh a “secure server” doesn’t exist. I thought they would have them in the judges presence check out the evidence and write notes and la de da. But nope!
I missed watching Jane Mitchell and Nancy Grace tonight. Was the show informative? I’m going to catch NG at 10:00. I’m on the same time that’s on this blog page.
Anna-how anyone with any feelings could exploit this child is beyond me does bb have kids??? any one know??
I have no idea if he has children but money makes people despicable things!
Hello everyone! Anyone still here?
OVERWHELMING EVIDENCE….now them are the kind of words I wanna hear! M is going down for sure…….I bet they have fingerprints on the duct tape or something!
Nope now its all lit up in here..spanks
Yeah I thought NG was pretty informative because it went into depth a bit more than the article about the remains being there since June 18th.
Sorry I shorted out there for a minute…Hey liver..wassssup!!!
ANNA - bozo’s girl went to high school with casey maggot fat face
and just in case ya all missed this:
C~A said,in January 9th, 2009 at 9:22 pm ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) –Brad Conway, George and Cindy Anthony’s attorney said Friday the family hopes to know by the middle of nest week, when Caylee’s remains will be released by the Casey Anthony’s defense team. Once the family knows that, they’ll set some dates for a private and public memorial.
While nothing is certain yet, Conway said the Anthony’s have made one thing clear; Leonard Padilla, the bounty hunter who was in and out of the case on several occasions, will not be invited or let in.
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Why do they hate him so much? He said baby was dead and was lookin for her…and he was right?
C~A said,in January 9th, 2009 at 9:24 pm they can’t stop him for the public memorial….and oh yah
THEY WANT THE KILLER THERE THOUGH! THERE F’D
Anna……$$$$$$$ mean more to some people than their own pride. That has become obvious in this case more than any other case I’ve ever followed! Unbelievably sad.
They have time of death-June 16th-body hasn’t been moved-LE believes overwhelming evidence that she did it, acted alone, and it was intentional. (Nancy Grace and WKMG)
Hey liver!!! and miss pickles….
i am in a fog tonight from no sleep up early for work but did see NG and have to say this newest news is sooo disturbing to me now. I mean you all know I said accidental for awhile, although that was kind of like 20% accident, and to hear it confirmed and to see her now i feel chilled…
anyone else have diff views now that its like confirmed???
so chilling, cold and just evil… makes me think on new levels of her seeing her even…
and what about no immu for ants at all whatsoever????
pickles do not eat those things.. they will stunt your growth
Hey pickles my girl………wassaponin? (is that how you spell it??? lol)…
I hope Tox results/duct tape prints are there! WOW that would be good for prosecution. We know the hair in the trunk matches the hair on the remains. So wouldn’t that mean they have tox reports perhaps too?
Hi dwoolie liver pie
Nice to see ya hon. did you see NG tonight…it was good!
Padilla aint invited to the funeral…
shanny pup - there gettin er done thats for sure…they must have results..it won’t be long now
Wassaponin sistah ….aye mayte arghhh…dont touch mee bootie!!
Pammyliz ‘ello there!
Hey C~A!
Gosh it’s lookin like old home week! (lol)…..glad I finally caught up with you all!
XOXOXOXOOX - Should be poppin in soon!
So is everyone going to call in Sunday….Is going to be JUICY!!
I agree CHSAH they must have some other evidence we dont know about to confirm this…
so, murder one, planned and intentional…
wow now i say for motive it was a few things not just one, mostly i think she had it planned when she searched on puter then it took a rage to set her in motion when she did it, and with tony not wating caylee over…
she chose that time, now why tape over mouth if you already did the horrid act with chloroform?
I guess M must have been “mistaken” when she said she spoke with Caylee in July, eh? LOL
OH CRAP….YOUR HERE…THAT WAS WEIRD….
WHOO…I didn’t see your post…you in my head pammy?
well I’m going to try pickles, alot to talk about this week for sure..
C-A killer is caught…good one!!!
i am stunned no not stunned cause like i said 80% of me thought pre-med there was a part of me holding out you know, but to hear it and then see her, its like the guy on ng show said you cannot imagine looking at her she would do this!!!!
XOXOXOXO your name is correct in here…IS it fixed?
I did see NG….BOMBSHELLS! I watched Jane Valez Mitchell too, it was good also. I have always felt it was premediated so it came as no surprise to me, but yet…..actually hearing those words….did chill me to the bone to xoxo….
If they do give the Ants immunity, I think that’s a crock. They have had plenty of time to cooperate and have told their story already so why do they feel the need to have immunity????? Nope, no sireeeeeee….no immunity! Sounds like the prosecution can still bring back the DP?????? Is that what I understood?
dak needs to come in tonight and dispute the newest comfirmation…. i mean he (and I) kind of swayed towards accidental, and like paddy too and others even LE thought so, to hear it confirmed is more solid to me
Ahh to late XOXOXOXO…my growth is stunted…im a 5″3 30 yr old…Ive been this tall since 7th grade…done ate a big ol bunch of boogs..
bbiab…
So now all the a@@holes that were saying the hair in the trunk could be caseys OR caylees can jam it up their poop shutes…the stupidity of it all…the devils advocates..just ask us…we already knew it was caylees’ for petes sake.
Oh remember one poster in particular that said death band coudl be from medications…ppppppftt to that!
WHO HEARD NG SAY DEATH PENALTY IS BACK ON TABLE? PLEASE SOMEONE ANSWER THAT….DID ANYONE ELSE HEAR THAT WHEN THEY WERE TALKIN ABOUT MOTIVE….
By the way when I type caps…I’m NOT yelling..it’s my way of some points standing out more then others..
I saw NG tonight, and heard them say they thought it was premeditated murder one, but didn’t quite understand from the entomologist and botanist stuff how that lead to that conclusion. Were they basing it on those reports, or on something else they haven’t released to the public?
Anybody else wondering about how they drew that conclusion?
Pammyliz, the 20% of you that held out is b/c you have a big heart and are like alot of people that can’t imagine a mother doing such a horrid act. There isn’t anything wrong with that. Atleast with the new evidence, you can clearly see a different view. I hope the jury can too! AND….just imagine what we HAVEN’T even seen or heard yet!
pickles…same here 5′3 but no boogs and 10 years on ya…I was eating boogs when you were born though…
OMG OMG LMAO now that one C-A made my whole crappy day! girl you shoulda been a comedian your come backs on this blog literally crack me up laughing at this computer
omg
still laughing… OMG your quick girl with the wit…
Tim - I am no expert…but what it all meant to me was the bug experts and the age of the bugs and that crap? and the plant growth within the bones etc…brought them to determine she had indeed been there since june
NOT sure if i am right
timbit i think that what the botanists said and explained are def going to help in forming timeline, made sense to me, and i hung on the guys every word..lol
amazing how the world works and things can be found out… thats why M was stupid plain stupid throwing her right down the road and a whole zanny story was so stupid and poorly planned and now shes in prison , her gorgeous child is gone nothing but bones, and i always hated her but truly hate her guts now even more to think of taking her life??? WHY????? whywoudl this baby ned to go,? why not M go???
C~A, I don’t know if they said DP not on NG…I watched several news reports today and thought someone said that now that they have “proof” of premeditation, that they still could??? I could be wrong so don’t quote me b/c I’m sure DAK will be coming in at some point to make a correction if I’m wrong….(lol)
Timbit, I think it was a combination of the entimologist, botanist and “other things” not reported yet that showed premeditation. That could be the toxi results that they must have gotten back by NOW?????? I think they found fingerprints on the duct tape (m’s) but just speculating!
Pickles…..you don’t have to leave to eat boogers….we dont’ care
come back! lol…
C~A
That’s what I understood too, but I guess I just don’t see how that proves it couldn’t still have been an accident that she tried to cover up after the fact. I think they must have something else that is leading them to that conclusion that they haven’t released yet.
k timbit..you a lady right! Cause I don’t like callin ya Tim….I will change it to BIT it just doesn’t seem right to call ya tim…
Hola everyone!
we shamed miss pickles for eating them so she left us.. lol
omg… still laughing over ca post…
when since I watched NG i been tearing up again over caylees pics
so i needed something to take that dreariness off me, and on top of see jane velez on the other psycho who killed the mother and the mother trying to save her child…
psycho lock him up, he shoulda been there long ago.
timbit…that’s only the timeline …the evidence that we are hearing about that makes them believe she was KILLED not by an accident has not been released….we don’t know why they are saying that yet….other then now we know for sure the hair at the scene on the tape…matches the hair in the trunk..which ties killer to having baby in HER trunk…but there is more to come…
Pammyliz, I think M was planning to kill Caylee and the night she went into a rage with her mom…..it happened. I don’t think she planned it at that exact moment but then it was too late….and she wasn’t prepared with “her plan” and had to start making up stories as she went along.
Pickles, my subname is just for you
SABWAF…share a booger with a friend…
AMY!!!! bombshells tonite huh????????
What you thinking about all it????
liver-ya, that’s got to be it! Probably the tox reports.
C~A-Yes, I am female-timits are little tiny donuts from TimHortons Doughnuts (big in canada and in my diet)Don’t worry though, I’m not offended by Tim, kinda funny if people think I’m a guy!
pickles will be back…she’s dealing with alot right now…
booger and beads, boogers and bead…
CHSAH - I bet they have her prints too…
I understand for a majority of the things the bug and plant people lol I kid the entimologist & botanist got their findings.
There HAS to be more info that just hasn’t been released yet. Hope for a news conference on Monday about it or something…
I just can’t wait to see the forensics in this case… It will be very interesting to hear what the Defense has to say about the trunk!
oh now I don’t know what to call ya…make me type the whole darn timbit name wont ya…LOL
I AM CANADIAN - I LIVE ON TIMMYS COFFEE…LMFAO
AND YEAH….it’s a FRIDAY….so now we have to wait until Monday for any NEW bombshells! GRRRRRR…..
I didn’t see NG 2nite.. any new bombshells?
Slowly this weekend will result in sweatpant convo’s again lol but thats fine. Monday we can just hope we get loads more info.
OK this is gettin really weird chsah..first pammy is in my head and now you…
When shan wrote about MONDAY conference….I too just thought, oh ya great it’s Friday…
Too funny
C~A
Call me whatever you like-I’m not one to take offense easily
If I tick you off, you can always call me TB (I believe that is one nasty disease) LOL
timbit i too thought you was a guy all along!
timbits we have tim hortons here tons of them and i love their hot apple cider, in fact theres something it it that makes me drive 2 times a day to get a cip, lol can’t find any as good as their hot cider!!!! delicious!
awww chsah what a pal, so your a sharer…
sweet
its funny what the minds in here can go from, from discussing a maddening murder case.. to well… boogers!
cool! LMAO
shan stick around cause were off that topic of sweats and now we have “boogers” for the topics LMAO
i bet we can talk alot about it too..
yah but seriously , tonights news to me was BOMBSHELL just bombshell…
Bit - Oh boy, I hope I don’t have to call ya TB …LOL
Amy….yeah, NOW that they have linked the hair to Caylee in the woods to the hair in the trunk directly! They can still SAY that M wasn’t the last one to have possession of that car but I don’t care….SHE WAS LAST SEEN alive with Caylee and driving THAT car! Seems like Paddy’s theory that Caylee was in the trunk when George went to get the thing out of the trunk he wanted was wrong but I bet that car was wreaking of smell and she didn’t want G getting close!
my girlie has a case of the giggles, shes over on my couch, giggling and laughing about nothing just to hear herself laugh and then she gets me going and then were both being silly, laughing bout nothing!!!
and shrek is on and i am sick of shrek already!!!
AMY….oh yeah…..bombshells for sure on NG. You should watch it if you still have a chance tonight sometime.
Pickles takes the credit for the boogers and the booger-wanna be beads in the nose…poor girly, i hope she’s ok..not nice knowing ya got a bead up your beak! Hugs to pickles munchkin girl!
Wow, that’s huge, CHSAH!!
Thank you for the update… WOW
Well guys I am seriously tired lol I would stay up but I have a very active toddler to wake up with tomorrow.
I’ll catch you all tomorrow morning probably!!
Nite!
and now hearing this confirmation, when i think of her elaborate idiotic tale in the interr room, it just makes me shake my head, and i see her in court and i think, as shes sitting there whats in her mind? i think shes hating caylee and happy actually shes gone still even tho she sits in jai forever… sorry i hate to say this but that was a feeling went through me when i saw her face like she still is glad caylee is gone…
XOXOX - THE HALLELUJAH SONG IS THE BEST SONG IN THE WORLD…
omg sorry i didnt know she seriously has a bead in her nose?? oh no!!!
I send you an email on why sometime!
XOXOX
I totally understand about timmy’s. I am convinced they put something addictive in their coffee too, cause when I want a timmy’s coffe, nothing else will do, and I have been known to go there at all hours of the night to get one. fortunately for me,(or unfortunately) they are only a couple of blocks away.
If Leevil wasn’t moving the body with all that coded talk, then maybe he was making sure it was hidden, or planned to “unhide it” when the time was right.
CHSAH, the man just turned it on for me
nighty night shan ((((hug)))
I’m prolly staying up to watch NG again.. even tho i heard it word for word
Amy, they said the prosecution now has overwhelming evidence that M murdered Caylee and it was premed! The have the botanist and entimology reports back that prove Caylee was there from the beginning (body not moved), I think they have toxo back to but they didn’t mention that. Ant’s still want immunity, that hasn’t been decided yet I don’t think. From the new reports they do have they believe Caylee was killed on the 16th and dumped on the 18th in that spot…… how sad.
Watching NG now… so then Caylee was killed on Father’s day? Did they just confirm that? Is that what I hear?
see timbit thats why i love this blog lol cause i thought iw as crazy about the cider, theres just something in it that maes me go 2 times in my work day out driving and i buy 2 medium size.. and i told someone i think theres an addictive drug in it, cause years ago i hated apple juice, cider anything like that..lol
tonight i was doing groceries and picked up a box of instant cider mix and i already know this won’t be the same.
now i drink their coffee too, but am not an avid coffee buyer from them or their donuts nope just the addicting cider…
Hi CHSAH! We must be on different time schedules because I rarely see you on here when I’m on here… good to see you! Hey, please let me in on why they call you “liver” I think that ‘Heart’ is more befitting to describe you because you have such a big heart with everyone on this blog…. So why liver?
Hi XOXOXOXO, I hope you don’t have to work tomorrow because last I heard we’re suppose to get a lot of snow tonight. Do you have a long drive to work? I think one snow flake must have hit my house because my Comcast internet service is slow right now… I have to wait until that snowflake melts. Arrrggghhhh…
Gotta go, missed NG before so I don’t want to miss it again otherwise I have to wait until 1:00am!
BBL
CHSAH - Wouldnt it be sweet if they got positive results of chloroform in the hair and bone..( not really but you know what i mean, to convict killer forever) AND her skanky finger prints….
Yup, if I had the $ I’d buy into one of those franchises- I hear those people make a fortune on us poor strung out addicts.
You in Canada Timmie
C~A Yup, I’m in B.C.
You?
gonna watch NG again….(lol)….bbl!
Timmie you lucky bit…(that meant timbit actually) lol
ONtario for me…
Timmie actually born a blue-noser..not to be confused with a brown noser…
It just occurred to me that if you add a couple of letters to my name, there’s another nasty name for me if I get out of line. LOL
MMt….seen your message so thought I’d say “HI” before I leave! I usually am on about this time but seems no one else is…we must be missing each other! lol. Glad to see you, I have missed blogging with you!
Liver is because one night when I was on here, someone made a comment about being on here alone (or something like that) and I typed “what am i?….chopped liver!” and hence……’LIVER’ has stuck by some! lol…..
I’ll stop back later!
therapist wanna be
has it hit? its been dumping since 2 pm, we are expected to have 5 inches by morning. i got home around 3, and looked out its alot right now
blah yes i driove in it all day long no i work in my city but alot of the job is dirving to and from houses, tomorrow will be a good day to saty in with the clients tho and veg…
cause i did a donut today coming home.
LMAO at Timbit–
that is too funny girl
Pammy you did a do-nut….you rebel..
Hey Pickles, I posted this in the other thread, but I don’t know if you will see it. So I am re-posting it here
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Pickles:
I am not disputing that CA is behind Caylee’s death. On the contrary, I think she is entirely involved. I am just trying to figure out the “how” and the context.
Here are my thoughts:
She drugged Caylee on a regular basis and dragged her everywhere without a thought to the baby’s safety.
She took Caylee with her to her many (I have lost track how many) bf’s houses to spend the night. The grandmother appears to have not minded babysitting. So why take Caylee along just to drug her?
She has no job, but she has money. We know she stole money around late June/July (time-frame correct?). What did she for money all the rest of the time she was going out to clubs, bars, concerts?
So I was asking if it was ever suggested by the police that CA drugged her baby as a way to keep her quiet while she made money off of her. She strikes me as someone who would have no problem selling her “snot-head” for an evening for some quick cash.
Did they ever look into sexual abuse allegations in relation to little Caylee?
CHSAH - What, now I am chopped liver? I’m here
C-A, me?
Silly said - What did she for money all the rest of the time she was going out to clubs, bars, concerts?
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She cramed her mouth and other orfaces for fun times…
The rest of your post is just to sickening for me to even think of or comment on! Sorry, your thoughts but I can’t go there or answer.
silly - what do you mean “me”?
About how M got money- this theory is pretty far out there too, but what the heck….. I remember G saying he lost 30 grand on a nigerian scam, but there was some debate over whether he may have really lost it gambling and thought the Nigerian thing sounded better.
IF-people think there may be an incest angle to support the weird behavior of this family, could G have paid off M not to reveal the identity of Caylee’s father? Maybe she got her hands on that money before C was born, and that is what allowed her to last so long without a paycheck before she started the serious stealing….I know, pretty far fetched, but hey, the whole story would seem pretty far fetched if we didn’t have evidence to support it.
Silly - I know you don’t know…but Casey Anthony is NOT CA that’s me..she is maggott or killer or skank…horseface…who@re..take your pick..wonder snatch is a favorite lately!
Hi all
Im new here so please forgive me if this has been discussed before, but with the new “overwhelming evidence” they have that points to intentional murder, do any of you think it could perhaps be not only Casey’s fingerprints on the duct tape but Caylee’s as well, or at least some type of evidence that Caylee tried to remove the duct tape therefore proving that she WAS alive when it was placed on her. This would prove intent and also that Casey was the one to put it on her while alive? If she was alive there could be fingerprints if she tried to remove it or tongue tissue or marks if she was alive while it was on her.
I must admit that I did have some thoughts about it being accidental but this would sure go a long way to proving intent and that it was not put on after Caylee was dead to fake a kidnapping. Any thoughts?
C-A, okay, psychomurdermom I think will due. I know it is sick to think about, but I think the cops should be looking into that angle of it. There has to be a reason why she drugged Caylee and took her out with her instead of leaving the baby with her psycho-mama.
Plus, if it is true that psychomurdermom was molested, then someone should be looking at the rest of the psycho-family to see if they hurt Caylee…
Boy, I am no longer lucid I have noticed.
Oh, the “me?” thing was to your one comment I did not understand. I thought you were asking me something.
doodlelover
Wow-I think we all entertained the likelihood that M’s prints would or could be on the duct tape, but what a horrible thought that little Caylee’s could be too. That would certainly be unrefutable evidence that it was intentional.
I sure hope that isn’t the case. i want to believe this little angel didn’t suffer.
Doodle, Hi, I am also new. I started asking questions in the last blog post and someone called me lame. So just fyi, if you ask questions some people think you should know the answer to, you will likely get insulted. Although I don’t know anyone here and this is like my third comment, I just wanted to welcome you so you did not feel uncomfortable. (waves)
hey all, good news on the evidence huh?? i was bummed last night X0X0 about the tape, tonight i’m glad m is suffering long lonely days & nights w/ her poptarts.
when ng listed some of m’s comm order i thought she is eating to soothe herself now that she doesn’t have a boy or dope- her ass will grow!
Yah im with C~A I dont want to think Caylee was being drugged for some perv to molest her…thats messed up
Gnite everyone!!!
doodle - OMG - What a scary awful thought..you said not only Casey’s fingerprints on the duct tape but Caylee’s as well, or at least some type of evidence that Caylee tried to remove the duct tape therefore proving that she WAS alive when it was placed on her
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I could just cry at the mere possiblility…although they would not have caylees fingerprints on file at orange county corrections, they could tell if it was a print of a child….you could be on to something….I’m feel bomarded with sexual selling and babys prints ( saying she suffered) tonight….It’s so sad … I hope that is not true …any of it…I hope they have her prints ( maggots is enough)..
Hey I didnt call you lame I was trying to find out who called you lame..
That was GOldie_fishy to be exact..not me
Oh god, just actually thought about your comment doodle… that poor baby. I cannot even imagine this. But if she drugged Caylee and the baby went to sleep never to wake up, why did she duck tape her mouth? Unless she killed her in some other way. I have a bad feeling she was hurting Calyee the whole time she had her.
silly dont bunch us all in one basket ok! That’s neither mature or nice…one person does not make the blog
let’s not forget that wonderful descriptive phrase, tuna trap
Pickles… where did I say you called me lame? I am addressing my question specifically to you (the one above several comments up) because you DID NOT call me lame.
You were helpful, that is why I am specifically asking you the whole theory I have about pychomurdermom making money off of hurting Caylee. I have a bad feeling that this is what happened.
Yah I just checked the other blog and I didnt call you lame only one person did and it was regarding that disgusting question on Caylee being drugged and molested..so IF you want to go back and scroll up and see who said what and when is all good.
As in regards to your the responses to your posts being given in a rude manor Im not seeing that either.
Hi jr
yup good news tonight….and maggots a@@ will grow nice and big for that broom handle she’s gonna get..lot’s of cushion for the pushin’
C~A i heard NG say dp was back on the table, then the others started disagreeing & i didn’t catch the rest.
I apolgize Silly…..
I am sorry if anyone made you feel un welcome or were rude to you…
C-A, oye … woman, I did not lump all of you together. I said “some people” which means “not all…”
I was speaking about Goldie’s insulting response in another thread, but I did not want to name her and single her out. I was just suggesting to Doodle that she/he might experience the same thing and not to be discouraged, which I think is a fair assessment given how I was answered in the last thread.
silly - that kind of FYI is uncalled for really, get on with it…i don’t recall doodle askin for it either…dont involve others or taint others opinions on one post…PLEASE
I’m still thinking about doodlelover’s comment about cayless prints on the tape.
ON NG tonight, they sounded pretty positive they had SOMETHING that would prove intentional death…something like that would sure be evidence to support murder1..even more so than tox results, as they could also support the accident theory.
Oh I hope that is not the case.
Yah I seen it…it was in regards to the theory of Caylee being sold and drugged into molestation…you have to excuse Fishman he is a child lover who cant stand the thought of that me either to be quiet honest..
silly - your on a blog not adult friend finder…don’t base your opinion on ONE post…
I don’t know if anyone caught it but on JVM, I think, someone said that Paddy told of G trying to choke M ( rofl, too bad he failed ) anyway, what was that about?
Maybe BB should file a motion for a gag order on tinker & tillie so that doesn’t leak, I think he missed them in his long list of bs motions.
silly
Thanks for the welcome.
I have been reading this blog for a long time, just decided to join in tonight because for once I had a thought that I hadn’t seen discussed yet and wanted opinions.
I feel like I know most of the posters already since I’ve been reading so long and I promise I won’t take offence easily. lol
C A I’m from Ontario too.
Pickles did u get the bead out??
doodle has a great thought on the baby print…that is very possible and very heartwrenching…i can’t stand that thought AT ALL…if this is the case…THAT MAGGOT IS GOOD AS DEAD WITHIN 24 HRS
Okay, I know it is a disgusting thing to think about… but it is reasonable. I am trying to understand the reason for the drugging when the psycho-grandmother was more than happy to babysit (probably pretend it was her kid). So I am wondering if the cops have covered this angle at all… that is the question really, not if you think this happened.
Yes, disgusting agreed. But look at the evil we are talking about. If she is capable of putting tape on that baby’s mouth and killing her in cold blood, where would she have drawn the moral line? I don’t think she has a conscience (sociopath) and I think she is an opportunist (steals, lies, takes advantage, manipulates), so it strikes me as perfectly reasonable to wonder if the cops thought of this angle.
Pickles:
Thanks for those kind words. I do feel welcome now:)
DOODLE ~ you a timmies lover too?
Wait…Caylees prints are on the tape or KC’s?
Im confused…Caylee’s prints seriously
Blehh..Silly…she is evil pure evil…
Your welcome…
Still that thought is making my stomach back into my throat..blehhh…
Okay, I just did some poking around and found another post on another forum about the duct tape and the fact that if the tape was put on while the child was alive, there would be evidence of the tongue trying to get it off or a print and that if it was placed after, then the lips would leave a closed impression on the tape. Although I’m not sure if this would all be visible after the exposure and the length of time it was there.
I found a reference on another forum about the Jon Benet Ramsey case. She had duct tape on her mouth but it was suggested that it was put on after because there was only a closed lip imprint and no tongue evidence on it that would be there if the person was live and trying to talk or breathe or get the tape off. This could be the link to “overwhelming evidence” that is being discussed. Both sets of prints on the duct tape would be pretty hard to explain away.
pickly - no word on the prints on the tape…doodle is suggesting that the evidence they have the is so overwhelming it might be that caylee’s prints on the tape
I thought the other evidence was bugs and plants growing…OHH God I hope Caylee didnt wake from the poisoning and try to take the tape off herself…ughhhh..thats gives me shivers…
Yes, C-A
My name is Doodlelover (for my goldendoodle dog btw) and I am a Timmie’s addict. lol I am also female, with 5 kids just like you. Or is it 6 you have?
WFTV Legal Analyst Describes Private Investigators’ Video
Friday, January 9, 2009 – updated: 7:02 pm EST January 9, 2009
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — WFTV’s legal analyst viewed the video showing a private investigator for the Anthony family talking on the phone and digging with a shovel at the scene where Caylee’s body was later found. That private investigator was caught on camera, but until Bill Sheaffer had a chance to view it, few details were known about what the video showed
“He was digging in the soil. He had a probe that he was probing in the soil. He was also picking up items at the crime scene and tossing them aside,” WFTV legal analyst Bill Sheaffer told Eyewitness News on Friday (watch full interview).
The bug plant dudes are only for timeline….the overwhelming evidence that ties maggot directly to MURDER not ACCIDENT has not surfaced yet….this is gettin bad!
Sheaffer said the Anthonys’ private investigator, Dominic Casey, picked up what appeared to be a blanket at the scene and tossed it aside and that it did not appear Mr. Casey and his colleague, private eye Jim Hoover, who was behind the camera, were doing a random search
i’m glad for the evidence she left, it sounds like she’s really not going to make a new story up.
Pickles:
So I am not a child lover because I asked this? M’kay. I think this was educational stopping by.
C-A… I think I was nice to doodle and made him/her feel welcome. Not trying to make friends for crying out-loud. But when one is new to any situation, it is generally a nice thing to do to welcome them.
You have run wild with the comment I made about “some people” in reference to Goldie now sort of taking it personally. I am not sure why you are getting so upset, but whatever. It is a blog, not group therapy.
Anyway, thanks for the very educational threads. I thought you were all very well informed, which is why I thought to ask some questions here. Perhaps my questions were worded badly or perhaps they were in fact lame, but you all seemed so nice from a distance.
So good luck and please continue your wonderful discussions because I have been reading them everyday for months now and learning a lot and enjoying them. I will continue to read and enjoy them, from a distance.
Thanks for all of the help and the answers.
who the hell is sheaffer
Sheaffer said Mr. Casey appeared to be focused on areas where there was a configuration of stones or concrete pavers, not just at the crime scene, but also at what appeared to be an abandoned back yard where Mr. Casey was actually digging.
“Mr. Casey was digging in the area, actually digging with a garden shovel, in an area where it appeared to be a black plastic bag sticking out of the earth,” Sheaffer said.
Sheaffer said it was obvious Mr. Casey knew the camera was rolling because he was actually directing Mr. Hoover on where to shoot.
Sheaffer said, back at the scene the second day, Mr. Casey was probing the ground with a metal rod and not just superficially but deeply enough that he could have destroyed evidence.
“It was a metal probe and if he hit the skull or the bones of that skeletal remains he could have fractured it, he could have otherwise altered it and it would have thrown the whole forensic examination of the bones off,” he said.
Questions remain about who Mr. Casey was talking to at the scene on the phone and who told him where to look and what to look for
That is a description of the video made by the ant private eye
Just so I don’t confuse anyone, I was asking for opinions on my theory, this has no basis in fact, just something I’ve been thinking about today. I’ve always thought that the Prosecution has had hard evidence since the remains were found and have just been smart to keep it to themselves and let Bozo stumble around for the last month wondering what they do or do not have. IMO it’s a done deal, Casey will go down, maybe not soon, trials take time, but it will happen IMO
sillybutt said,in January 9th, 2009 at 10:55 pm
Hey Sillybutt I didnt say you werent a child lover I said that Fishman was and nothing regarding you or the love and empathy you feel towards children..My friend you have been nothing but confrintational since you came back on here…
silly - come on….we have been through this tantrum stuff too often…it’s so old…just stay ….move on…we’re all here for caylee and yes we are very well informed..we live it everyday…for 6 months now…we are all grown ups right! Acutally I am not running wild at all, guess you haven’t been reading as long as you say you have or you would know the difference.
So welcome..
hi pickles
doodle, i would guess there was something that showed it was intentional, never thought of small prints or tongue maybe even saliva evidence on the tape but it sounds reasonable. i preferred to think she died in her sleep, i guess there would be signs though, so good theory.
doodle - I know its your theory or idea and it was a great one! Thanks!
Okay Sillybutt..thats nice its a blog not group therapy all right any other ones you want to let us know..you have been reading for months and months okie dokie no one said any ill will towards you..C~A asked you to keep the pointing out to yourself and not to call KC C~A ..I didnt once say you werent a child lover and you put those words in my mouth
WHATEVER…you keep on keepin on then..we love to have you butt if your going to cause this type of drama and static then fine go on and just read..
Hey C~A…
Dude the thought that Caylee woke out of the poisoning and her prints are on the tape is farging to much…my mind is all over that and fo-sizzled now…keplunk my brain is out of here…
It gives me the chills to even fathom..blehhh…I have thought it before and now that I think it could be a reality it makes my stomach ache.
Goldie_Fishy said,in January 9th, 2009 at 10:38 pm I’m not getting into it tonight. Sorry blogsters. In total disbelief (yet belief at the same time) that one single person could be so manipulative and evil all by herself.
She is the walking manifistation of the devil and she took the life of wht possibly could have been her only salvation. An absolute angel that was her daughter.
God bless and God rest little Caylee.
Though I don’t think they are totally blameless, they had a lot to do with enabling their evil daughter’s lies, bless the ants who aren’t wearing blue too. Not blameless but I think we are getting a better idea and some confirmation on how evil their bitch daughter really is.
OMG how, how could someone do this???
Pickles, TwoCents, Lulu, Gran, and even you sillybutt (who I think is being totally obtuse or trying to play a devils advocate) I will run my mouth more on this tomorrow.
Like I said, totally in shock. Not unexpected…but I just don’t know what to say. Hell is too good for this beeyyotch.
Catch ya’ll tomorrow.
Goldie_Fishy said,in January 9th, 2009 at 10:46 pm Oh and betty and Tori..and well all…night. Just don’t know what to say right now. it is just so sad to know that one person could be this manipulative and evil. I compare her to Charles Manson…truly.
Just dont know what to effin say.
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Sorry ya’ll really just don’t know what to say…PSYC*NT IS PURE EVIL…just absorbing it all. I’ll talk later.
Picks: scroll up… see what you said about the way Fishman responded to me. You said it was because Fishman is a child-lover… Not confrontational. I thanked you for your warm welcome and then I read that and was shocked.
C-A, I have been trying to move on already, but by the time I am done responding to something, I look up and read a whole knew shocking thing and then I am confused.
Yes, we are all here for Caylee. I have been reading for a long time. I feel like I know all of you (as doodles pointed out).
Anyway, maybe I am just tired and being overly sensitive. I don’t know. It just seemed a bit hostile (from lame, to disgusting, to the rest of it). Or maybe I am not. But this is distracting from discussing the case, which is far more important.
What I am saying is, whatever the problem (me being overly sensitive or people being a bit hostile), it distracts from helping to answer questions here. So I would rather just read at this point and not interact.
Peace and good night to you all:)
silly - guess what…this is a wonderful group for therapy…I get a great deal of love and support here…peeps I have met because of the death and murder of a beautiful child….we support and get through this together….so IMO you are wrong ….I love my cyber fam….
Thank you Caylee~Angel for bringing us all together xo - you did not die in vain darling.
Allright…fine then…
Peace and G’nite…
Yah…she is wrong..but hey its all a tissie fit like the rest..
Im off to noddie land too..
Gnite all…everyone..
nice reading Sillybutt
You are being tired and overly sensitive..The thought of Caylee being drugged and sold to be molested is a disgusting thought that I have never entertained or want to again after tonight…
It is a grand theory and Im sure is right up kc’s ally to do to her child…
I hope you enjoy reading the blogs because if you have read as long as you say you have then you know what is going on round here..
silly - in your defense on your authenticity to readin the blog and that you know all of us… and your not coming in to cause trouble…
how many kids do i have
what am i doing this month
what does c~a stand for
what is pickles old blog name
who is sick with cancer and in hospital
what club of peeps do we tend to avoid?
I agree C~A but in a way for me it is just too close too home. You don’t no how easily PSYCHOC*NT could have been my ex and how easily something like this could have happened to our daughter either via my strung out ex or her strung out pimp - drug dealer.
I really wanted to believe that it ran deeper than just one person here. I guess I should count my blessings that it didn’t end up that way for my situation but I just need to distance myself from it for a night and absorb.
Nite Pickles…you know I’ll miss flicking nose turds at you. I just need to think about this a bit before I start posting stuff I’ll regret about that evil piece of sh*t b*tch.
ROFL C~A if i pass the test do i get a doggie treat
I’m afraid to even post- tho i wanted to know if u got the bead out Pickles!
HOSTILE? THAT’S A JOKE!
C~A I actually just stumbled on this blog last week as I was following the story and thought ‘wow smart people having a discussion about something sensitive to me’. As a tech guy I hate blogs, facebooks, facebooks wanna bes and crap like that because it is a waste of a computers time and usually comes with a price damn near spyware.
This story, was following it a lot and just happened to tumble in here and was impressed by the quality of the conversation C~A. Don’t know all that stuff.
JR - your so cute! I bet you know em all!
Don’t be afraid, Tori my sista in armour is not here but I am ….. it’s ok! Pickles didn’t say…
Hey I can answer most of those
C-A is for Caylee Anthony.
You have 5 or 6, I can’t remember kids,
You just moved into a new place or are moving very soon,
Pickles name was very long all about something ending in Pickles and she shortened it
Sean one of the main guys from the radio show is in the hospital with cancer
I even know that XOXOXOX is the artist formerly known as Pammyliz .lol
See I’ve been here quite a while now. Glad I finally posted today though. I’m a bit shy. lol
fishy - I am sorry to hear about your ex and your pain of it all…but happy your daughter is ok…must be pretty scary…and it’s ok that you don’t that stuff…you will…you haven’t claimed to have “been reading the blog forever”.. I have a prob. with peeps that seem to come on and say that alot….why do they feel the need to say it…and if it’s true…then they would know the answers to those simple questions…if they don’t know then they are not genuine.. ya see!
Pickles, apparently I don’t know what is going on around here… because if I did, then I would not have bothered. You seemed very well informed. I stopped by to simply ask some questions - and addressed a one of them to you because you seem so well informed.
Goldie insulted me from post #1 (and just did it upthread again).
See, the way I look at it is that if someone knows something better than you or is more informed than you, you ask them questions. That is not being obtuse (thanks Goldie) or playing devil’s advocate (thanks again Goldie) or being lame (um, and again Goldie). It is complimentary frankly.
Now, while the thought of that makes me sick as well (just like murdering a baby or anyone makes me sick), my point for asking it was to see if LE had indeed investigated this element.
I was trying to make sense of the drugging part. I had not seen if the LE (see, I do read here) had thought about this at all or discussed this.
And while I do read here everyday (like Daduke asking over and over about ZFG), I apparently don’t read often enough to know “what is going on around here.”
If I thought I was being overly sensitive before, I now simply think that it is what it is.
Goldie was rude and continued to be so. I was made to feel worse for pointing it out.
Not sure why C-A got upset because I was pointing out Goldie’s behavior. But whatever. She asked me to change my reference to pychomurdermom and I did (see above). I know what you all call her, but I did not know what to write when speaking of monster because it was my first set of posts.
Anyway, enough… this is circles and not worth it.
so do feel good about the evidence, i was relieved cuz of all defense experts.
doodle…not bad girl! not bad! Now I have to come up with new questions for silly…lmfao damn…
Casey sure did give her lawyer a come hither look….and smile.
Obviously she has used this technique before.
jr - was defense sailin maggot up the river? I get the talin heads all mixed up..
gabby - hi there
wasnt that sickening….how can she smile…at her daughters remains hearing…if at all…she’s such a disgrace and a waste of skin
i never listen to the defense unless it’s so out there. yea, it sounded to me like its a done deal. so good thang!
Waste of skin! You crack me up C~A
C-A… are you kidding? I don’t have the number of your kids memorized, but it is four or around there… not a small number.
Which CA do you mean monster CA or your nickname CA?
You are getting a new place or something.
I am not sure who you avoid, but is it that reporter guy who has a blog? I know it is a guy though. There are a few people you guys avoid… but his name comes up most frequently, although I cannot recall it. Seriously, I cannot remember my own cat’s name sometimes. So this is hardly fair. But I know that pickles can access any piece of information when asked a question. She has links like crazy.
I know Daduke is obsessed with ZFG
I know that Jan lost a child
I know that you guys call momster all sorts of and that you think Padilla is an asshole.
And while I do read here everyday (like Daduke asking over and over about ZFG), I apparently don’t read often enough to know “what is going on around here.”
that was only recently…easily looked up in a nano second…
silly you can say what you want, you won’t hurt us or our blog….I have been very nice actually…I have not got upset once…just callin ya on some comments…
I even said welcome..BUT GET OVER IT OK…IT’S A WASTE AND FRANKLY VERY TIRING…I’M NOT HERE FOR THIS…
GABBY, JR, GOLDIE AND DOODLE…g’night all
(((( C~A loves her therapy group)))))))
Thanks C~A…gonna go suck up to the DVD player a bit. Prolly a laffable tearjerker fav like ‘The Good Girl’ or ‘Juno’ tonight but that guy inside of me might take over and put in something that makes lots of boomy crashy noises.
I understand your caution about “where the hell did this guy come from?” and all. glad you understand my need to just shut down from this topic for a night.
Peeece bloggers…wil share my thoughts more on this like I said after I have had some time to absorb it some.
(flicks a nose turd at Pickles)
the look she gave bb was an obvious her normal flirt look, don’t u know she’s dying for attention esp. after having to sit & listen to what she did
Hey C~A
I’m curious. The question on your “test” about the blog you guys avoid. I haven’t heard you mention it, but can I guess, based on the tone of this blog and some of the others that it is the one on MOmlogic? Am I right?
(that one bugs me)
Oh, I know too that if you guys could, you would toss momster’s attorney-nazi into a flaming pit too.
I know that you most of you agree with me that Lee is the father (which is sick and twisted, but if the crime fits… ya know type of thing)
I know that there are two frequent plants here or people who are songbirds for the Ants (as you call them).
I know you guys seem to really love this little girl too.
Did I pass yet?
k, nite c~a, take care!
Okay
Here’s another thing I’ve been thinking of? What about the decomp smell in the car? This IMO would be a direct link back to M acting alone. If they can prove that only M drove the car between June 15th and the 18th, when they believe the body was dumped then it also goes to prove that she was the one who drove around with her in the trunk and removed her from the trunk, the whole nanny thing is impossible now.
All these seemingly small things put together make a large finger pointing directly to M and M alone. I think she acted alone but I think all of the Ants were told a certain story by M, like it was an accident or something and they believed her for a while, now I think they see the light and will have to face their own guilt for helping in almost covering up the intentional murder , not accidental, of their grandaughter.
Oh and sillybutt peace…we all have our opinions. I never meant any harm in answering your questions it is just some of them were ones that were already answered over and over again.
Sorry…yeah I have a bit of smart ass in me. No offense, just assumed you really were trying to play devils advocate to stir up stuff. No offense and I hope with my apology, no offense taken.
No worries goldie. I can in fact be very obtuse and a bit of a smart-ass as well. But this is just such a sensitive topic and my question was not pleasent either. Thank you for your kind words:)
Doodle… I think you are right. Here is what I think. I think momster drugged the baby (for reasons I cannot figure out, given that she could have left her with psycho-granny).
I think she wanted it to look like a kidnapping, which is why she put tape on Caylee’s mouth (and explains the whole thing with the One Tree Hill research she was doing).
In other words, it was pre-meditated. But something went wrong with the car and she did not know or perhaps did not understand that bodies decompose quickly. She panicked and tried to get the smell out.
I think she fessed up to psych-granny after. I don’t think Lee or G are involved.
Just my thoughts… but I think the tape is the premeditation part, because it fits nicely with the kidnapping story.
Is everyone gone? So we all make up and everyone misses it?
Sillybutt
I also agree with most of that, but I don’t think the duct tape proves premeditation. If she drove around with the baby’s body in the truck for two days, she may have spent that 2 days trying to come up with a plausible story, and when she thought to go with the kidnapping angle, she put the tape on before she dumped the body. (not suggesting I believe this, only that it wouldn’t necessarily prove pre-meditation.
By the way…welcome!
Night Blogsters…may be back, but I think I need a nights sleep to shake off how easily this absolutely evil crap could have happened in my life with a woman and child i once loved.
My prayers of thanks to God will last long past sleep tonight.
Night ya’ll
Tim, thanks:)
But then why did she research One Tree Hill? And not to mention other things?
She says the baby is kidnapped. When I think of kidnapping, I think hands tied, mouth gagged.
Does anyone know if that episode of One Tree Hill had duct tape on it?
g’night Goldie~Fishy
Sweet dreams!
Goldie… sleep well. Time is a good cleaner of sorts. It cleans the pain, if not the memories.
Tim… just thought of something too…
why did she drive around for two days? is it possible she took the bag with the baby out to various places to get different materials on it, so then when she left the bag (and little Caylee) in the woods it would look like it came from somewhere else?
ya Sillybutt, I think it was premeditated, I was just making the point that the duct tape alone doesn’t prove that (unless of course Caylee’s prints are indeed on it)
I never saw the One Tree Hill thing so can’t comment there. I’m sure someone here is in the know on that one though.
I don’t think she planned it well enough to thing of getting different materials on it. If she did, surely she would have left the body somewhere else a little farther from home.
I think she was just so used to getting away with things that she didn’t think she had to go out of her way to really make a good plan. I figure she was used to doing whatever she wanted and just relying on lying her way out of it if need be.
Pickles ,
Why on earth was Hoover taping Dom Casey.
The only reason I can think about is to show the tape to the Ants later on or Baez to see if they recognized anything. Baez could later show it to M on his laptop
Very weird.
Actually, all of it starts to fit, but for the drugs and the June 24 phone call when Jesse hears the baby in background. If Caylee was killed on/around the 15 (not sure what Jesse heard then), then I think it looks like this:
1. Momster puts Caylee to sleep by murdering her with an overdose.
2. She then puts duct tape on the body, as well as some clothes, so it looks like Caylee was missing all this time and killed by kidnappers Zanny.
3. She drives the body for those two days to several locations in order to create evidence on the bag and on the body that Caylee was taken to different places before her body was dumped.
4. But the smell started almost right away and she did not understand how hard that type of smell would be to get out. She panicked and through the baby into the woods.
How does that strike you?
Tim, that is the point of leaving the bag so close to her house yet with evidence that the child came from elsewhere… it supports the whole Zanny theory and her not being able to talk about where Caylee might be for fear of what would happen. Her story seemed to suggest that the kidnappers would hold it over her and by placing the body in the woods, when it clearly came from some other place (there are other pings too, right?) is a way to support that insanity.
I don’t think for a moment she is not capable of planning this out. The girl did some serious research into methods, and cover stories (One Tree Hill = nanny kidnaps baby).
Even getting ZFG’s name and car and apartment part of the story could not just have happened.
What I think she was not prepared for is that her mother would call the police rather than believe her as she always does.
Maybe the P.I’s were under instructions to find the remains and dispose of them permanently to never ever be found again. Looks like they did not succeed, thanks to Kronk.
Snookers,
Your question brings me back to my earlier theory. I wouldn’t be surprised if Hoover was in fact working for LE or the prosecution. I think he may have been hired to keep an eye on Dominic casey in case he came up with any evidence that he was privy to from the Ants or M.
My reason for suspecting this is because the Ants never hired him. He showed up at their door one day and offered to help with protestors free of charge. Then he started to forge a friendship with Dom Casey.
Tim… I agree with you on the PI angle.
You guys, do you think anyone would have really noticed Caylee missing if C did not call LE? (look at all of the interviews, everyone asks about Caylee, but hey all buy momster’s various answers for a month).
I really think that is what she did not count on. I think she thought that if she told C her idiot story, then C would believe her like she always does. She did not plan well enough to have to fool LE, just well enough to fool G and C. Remember, G is a retired murder detective. She knows what he would be looking for. She just needed daddy to be convinced.
Timbit,
I have trouble believing that. Why on earth would he have mentioned the tape to Padilla.
I think Hoover was a bottom feeder trying to find crumbs that he could sell later on.
Snooks, if that turns out to be true… than both Momster Casey and PI Casey are going away for a long long time.
Hoover knew Padilla had good contacts about the value of such stuff. He did not count on Padilla calling the FBI(Nick Savage) right away.
Sillybutt and Doodles, and anybody else who is new too - WELCOME! I am brand new to blogging (never ever read one), and on here since mid December - I think.I don’t think they do that welcome thing here.Little by little tho, you can address a nice person, and they will write and address you back, and friendships slowly grow.I thought Caylee was a super, great, incredible child. And I think her mother doesn’t deserve to breathe the AIR that we all breathe! That’s why I am here, I guess. I guess behind everything, I am hoping we come up with something helpful and new,and that someone from the Prosecution reads these blogs. So I guess, I am hoping we can somehow help Caylee. OK Newbies, READY? Now you can write back to me! I am BETTY1(shhhh not my real name.) Pickles was the first to write to me. She was cute, found out I lived in OR too,just like her!
Snookers,
You could be right, but telling Padilla would allow him to keep his alliance with LE in the closet..he would be pretty well garanteed that Padilla would spill the beans and go Public with his face all over the networks.
It would help explain why he was videotaping that though, cause that videotape is what is gonna sink the defense because they will have evidence that M knew where that body was.
Here’s my theory
On June 15th CA and M had the huge chocking fight, M takes off and CA calls her and tells her to get back home, she has a child to look after. M comes back home that night.
But, I don’t believe that G saw them both the next morning on the 16th. He’s too exact about what each were wearing and states that they both came out of the bedroom with backbacks and left. If he is telling the truth then Casey did leave the house with Caylee but she was back by 3 pm within one hour of G leaving for work. This is proven from computer records. She uploaded some pics from photobucket at 3 pm and talked to Jesse and this is the phone call that he said he heard Caylee in the background. Jesse has since said he didn’t hear Caylee on the call of June 24th (which would now fit since we know she was already dead).
I think M did something to her on this day, June 16th. It would account for the 2 days of decomp in the car if she put the body in the woods on the evening of the 18th as LE are now suggesting.
I was confused about the dogs hitting on decomp in the Ants yard. M either panicked and took the bad from the trunk and hid it in the yard while she decided what to do or someone inaddvertantly got the scent of decomp in the yard in the sand box by maybe moving some toys or things from the trunk of the car. It could have been CA when she cleaned out the car, maybe there were beach toys or something and she put them back in the sand box. I’m not sure if that would be enough decomp for the dogs to hit, but maybe a possibility.
As for the remains, they are where she put them, or very close. With the water and animals they may have been buried a little and ended up on the surface instead. I don’t think she ever expected them to surface.
Well this is my version of what happened. lol
doodlelover
I agree with everything you said, particularly the part about the dogs hitting on the decomp in the back yard.
The only thing I think is that AFTER the fact, Lee had to have known something because that coded talk in the jail visit was just too transparent.
Timbit,
Dom was working for the Ants while he was doing his searching. Maybe Hoover made video tapes at many other places too where Dom was searching a la Gail StJohn.
Interesting though that the Ants got p*ssed at anybody searching for a dead Caylee, while privately they were doing it themselves thru their hired hand. Such hypocrites.
Anybody see Geraldo’s take on the situation on FOX tonight? He still doesn’t buy that it can be proven that M did the killing, and is thinking she can get off on a plea deal. Even after today’s revelations as portrayed on NG.
Goldie: rest well.
Just wanted to stop in and say hi and good blogging. Hello sillybutt, and yes I am obsessed with ZFG and was thinking about asking her out(just Kidding). And even I have questions sometimes which try and get the answer, but not always what I want to hear but answers all the same.
Well we all know Geraldo is whako in the head.
Snookers
Ironic isn’t it?
Which again goes back to wondering what their purpose was? It obviously couln’t have been to find her and turn her over to LE, or they wouldn’t have cared who found her.
It could have been for some sinister reason like moving her or changing evidence, but it may have just been their own concern that she may have done it, and needed to check any area they were familiar with that would be a likely burial spot so they could decide whether to keep supporting her or not.
Hey Dakdude
If you go by what they have made public, I can see why geraldo could say that. The time of body dumping does not alone mean that they can prove it, but I am convinced that whoever said that they had overwhelming evidence now was referring to something we have not yet been made privy to.
they’ll get her though, I’m sure
I haven’t been following this issue, can you’ll update me… what happens to the $$ people donated to find Caylee? Is it being used for other purposes, and if so can that be stopped? Also: is there life insurance $$ to be collected for Caylee, will M be able to receive this $?
Timbit,
I can only think of one reason, protecting their daughter from a long prison sentence and getting rid of more evidence.They did it before with other evidence… I think they have suspected since July 15, she killed Caylee.
Lulu according to the Ants attorney I think the left over money from the find Caylee fund will go to other missing kids orginazations.
Lulu
I believe that shortly after the body was found, someone (can’t remember who) said that the Ants ould not use that money for the funeral and that they would give it to a charity for missing kids but they wanted to research exactly who they should give it to.
Regarding life insurance, I’m sure if there was any we would have heard about that by now because that would have provided the motive for the murder, and they said they had no clear motive, at least at the beginning. Surely they would have checked that possibility.
Wouldn’t it be totally ironic if G & C, who reportedly had a very shaky marriage, suddenly became close in the face of this tragedy?
Thats true Tim also my thought is if they did have life insurance wouldn’t they use that money for Caylee’s funeral.
They may well repair their marriage over this. After all, they probably have lost a lot of friends, supportive relatives etc.
Without each other, they might well live very lonely lives.
And….they say when people face tragedy together they often bond in a big way.
Lulu,
If m is convicted of murder, she cannot collect on life insurance(if any) from her victim.
The monies ,if any left, in the “find Caylee” fund can be used for the funeral according to the stipulations of the fund.
If people contributed to the fund in order to find Caylee and the money was used for other things (e.g. mortgage, groceries, lawyers) is that not fraud?
Yes Lulu it would be considered fraud.
There could be life insurance on Caylee that had to be filed with a death certificate (perhaps only issued within the past few days) and that information may be confidential on the part of the insurance company. You know, keeping the names of clients private. Not that it would have been a motive for murder, I’m just speculating that the ants at this point don’t have $ and it would be helpful to them to collect insurance.
Lulu,
Yes, that would be fraud. It would also be fraud if the Ants were aware that Caylee was dead and kept using the fund to search for a living Caylee.
The Ants have bucks. We know they collected $200.000,00 from ABC for pictures.
I don’t think they (the ants) will enjoy any of the money they gleaned from Caylee’s demise.
nite everybody
Had to hit the pause button to pee, so I looked even though I probably shouldn’t have.
The ant’s aren’t blameless but I do understand where they are at. If you had ever been with, lived with, loved, or had a child with a personality deficient person like Evil B. Kuntley you would get it. You put up with so much and finally you just let their crazy ass sh*t go on around you and try to keep yourself out of the personal fray.
This ain’t about the ants any more to me. I feel sorry for them and can relate (even if I do still think LV is baby daddy…that ain’t nothing new).
It’s about that baby killing PSYCHO SCUMBAG and how on earth someone could go so low and play off this puppet game of hers.
Oh yeah been there and done that with fringe personalities much like the ants, like I said they aren’t blameless…they enabled her fugged up games all to well and probably had done it for years. Again…know that all too well. I pity them and at the same time if they crossed the legal line I hope they get what they deserve full force.
Right now I just feel sorry for the ants. They were scared, desperate, and grasping.
Just my opinion tho…and that psycho baby killing count (without the ‘o’) in blue does need to get the DP. Hope the prosecution does go for a last minute injunction. Would like to see both her and her dream team sweat it out. Turds of a feather float together. Then they get flushed.
My baby’s momma is a fucking hard core addict…even she had enough sense to know when game was up with her daughter and tried to make things right even if it was beyond her.
Screw this baby murdering waste of air and her whole bantering sideshow of freaks. If BB doesn’t back out within 48 hours he is back on my shit list. He already knew it was getting hot for his client and I think he was having second thoughts. If he stays from this point well God bless him but I friggin hate him. He is f*cked, his client is triple dog dare you f*cked.
Oh wasn’t I supposed to be watching a movie or something????
BURN IN HELL CASEY!!!!!!!
Edited by Jan Barrett
With all things aside in this case, and the actions of the Ants regardless of what they did or didn’t do and everybody so against them and with some reason to be the thing I have an issue with at this point and no one has mentioned it, is the media hovering at the funeral home. Now if several media outlets are setting up house(so to speak)at the funeral home I find it very disgraceful to do it. I mean there are people who go into that funeral for their loved ones and I’m sure they wouldn’t like the news vans and stuff watching them.
Morning all my peeps!!!!
CA.. your 5:57 post yesterday -excellent.. I think you have it exactly right! sorry it took so long to get back.. busy day yesterday!!
Pickles.. yup.. 29 RMAO!! more like 46… eeeks…
I read all the comments..took me forever… everyone has some great
thoughts.!!!
But my biggest question..like all of you.. is when are they going to bury our baby?? The thought of her boxed up in cold storage makes me sick.
Does anyone know if there is something that can be done to make m release her body for a funeral service???
ps.. you peeps are the greatest..(but we knew that already!!!)
xo
To all….
I can’t imagine anyone (normal) would want to copulate with bozo to
produce children.. the way he is treating Caylee, I would prob say no,
he does not…
(especially now after all of his ’sessions’ with the wonder-snatch)
XOXOXO..
your little girl sounds adorable!!! I love that age.. and that laughing is
contagious!!! Do you have pics of her somewhere on the web??
Sillybutt…
I do agree with your ideas of what m did with Caylee… I am sure she drugged her all the time. I am having major probs over the thought
of her ‘making money’ off of Caylee… that is too much for my brain
to take. THAT is absolutely sick.. although you could be absolutely
right… I just don’t want to think about that..sexual abuse of a 2 yr
old… that is just HORRIBLE.
I do believe I am all ALONE in her this AM…haha… don’t blame you..
wish like heck I could sleep!!!
“hm hm hm twidling thumbs hm hm hm”
Hey Dakdude,
Re your comments about some media hanging out side the funeral home ….
I had not thought about how the presence of the media might impact other people who go to this funeral home to make arrangements for their deceased loved ones. Good point - thanks for posting it.
I would hate it if I had to arrange a funeral and had to make my way through the media vultures.
Good morning all!
Check out http://www.myfoxorlando.com and look for a video on Casey In Court: “Body language expert looks at Casey Anthony’s court appearance”.
It is a short but interesting piece but I wish that Fox had given the expert more air time so that she could have provided even more insight into M’s body language.
The information around Caylee’s death just keeps getting crazier and crazier as the days go by.
Fox Orlando also has a short written piece regarding a tip they received about M’s car being seen parked nearby the site where Caylee’s remains were found.
The article talks about Jim Hoover approaching one of Tim Miller’s Equusearch volunteers on November 8th and telling them about seeing M’s car parked near the site.
Regarding the Nancy Grace show ……
While I was watching Nancy Grace late last week, one of the video clips on her “memorial” to Caylee caught my attention. It was the one where Caylee is being held by her great grandfather.
I know that someone else mentioned a while back when that clip first aired, that Caylee looked like she was afraid of the person (Cindy) taking the video. At the time I did not think Caylee looked afraid but I could not identify the expression I saw on Caylee’s face.
When I saw that clip last week, it struck me that what I saw was that Caylee looked content with being held and cuddled by her great grand- father.
When she turned several times and looked at Cindy, the look that I saw on her face was one of not wanting to leave the comfort and security she was being given at the time. Sort of a “we are not going to go yet, grann?” look. Did anyone else see a different look on Caylee’s face.
It’s sad, but I am so glad that her great grandfather got to hold Caylee like that one more time before M murdered her.
Hi, Lilred and Coolmoss!
Coolmoss: The first time I saw Caylee with her great granddad I thought she looked calm, at peace, comfortable, content and safe cuddling him. I think she was also very sensitive to him and concerned. Didn’t she ask, “Are you tired, Paw Paw?”
I could not interpret the look she gave the person shooting the camera but it sure was not any of those things. Except maybe a different kind of concern.
hey guys… where did we go???
i don’t get the new listening talk radio set up? where will the show be and how can i tune into it..there is so many of them
Hi Bett and thanks…
Lil…
Yep, it is sick and horrid and makes my heart ache. But I cannot figure why she had to drag Caylee with her just to drug her when she could have left her with psycho-granny. Is it simply that she did not want to give her mother the satisfaction? Could be, I dunno.
But to the question on pre-meditation… anyone else think she likely dragged Caylee’s little dead body aaround for two days in order to create a fake evidence trail on the bag and body?
Cools… not sure about the body language of Caylee there… just seemed like a regular two year old on a visit.
What was the thing with Hoover seeing the car there? I missed that
Bryan is that you???
we are all on a new article now
Bryan go there…if it didnt post go to the main page its the article about Caylees grandparents choosing who is invited to the funeral..
http://www.bloggernews.net/119355
Bryan…I am assuming that you are our faithfull listener/caller each week…
We are on another article…feel free to go on over…
Nice to see you here..
BRYAN…TO LISTEN TO THE RADIO SHOW ON SUNDAY:
GO ABOVE ON THIS PAGE
SEE THE SECTION BLOGGER NEWS ON THE AIR
SEE THE LITTLE BLOG TALK RADIO PLAYER THERE ITS BLUE
PUSH THE PLAY BUTTON ON THE RADIO PLAYER
On WKMG-Channel 6, Conway said that George and Cindy Anthony are supporting Casey. “They want the truth, whatever that is,” Conway said. “Whatever the truth is, they will stand by their daughter.”
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WTF? They want the truth but whatever the truth is they’ll still support their daughter?
In other words, if they find out — without doubt — that Casey killed Caylee, they’re STILL going to stand behind her? These people are hopeless.
C-A.. ref your post 11ish last night…
Oh Yeah, that smirk on her face made me want to b*tch slap it off!!
C-A, as I said b4,your posts are always good… to be honest, I have
not totally followed up reading all the post.. but going to give it
a try…
I have a question.. SillyButts remark, did I miss something??
PS GOOD MORNING PEEPS!!
XOXOXO 9″30 post last night..
I feel the same way, I was truly chilled to the bone watching m…
sitting there while they discussed ‘her’ childs remains. I have
never seen anyone so emotional detached. It made me sick.
she shows no one iota(spell check)of remorse or even concern..
I do not know how she does it…
I can not wait till this trial starts… this entire thing baffles and
confuses me.
lilred - the bloggers moved to a more recent article. It is # 119355 about grandparents choosing who is invited to the funeral..
bloggernews.net/119355
Or go to home page of bloggernews.net (hit refresh) and scroll down for first Caylee related article that you see.
Hi doodle… re your post about duct tape
I never thought about the prints on the tape being anyones but killer..
but you are right, there could be prints from Caylee on them also..
god, I do not want to think that.. she might have still been alive when
tapped up… that is just fricking so sad
By way of the briefest possible explanation here … I would like to comment about, or respond to, the queries regarding the way this family behaves. Bottom line is — There is NO “reasonable” justification behind the thoughts and actions of someone who is entirely dysfunctional. In other words … Crazy people do and say things which are completely baffling to sane observers. Cindy Anthony evidently falls into the category of being extremely emotionally dysfunctional. Even her own brother, Rick Plesea, indicated that assessment of her directly to HER in an email he sent. And her husband George is passive within their marriage … and he just goes along with everything she says and does to maintain as much peace between them as possible. I personally have an aunt and uncle who are like this also …. and their family situation is equally dysfunctional as a result. Not excusing the deplorable actions of Casey Anthony here … but she is merely a product of her environment. The parents are the foundation of it — especially CINDY. And yes … They are a hopeless, sorry lot. That entire family is beyond “repair” at this point.
Hello Simon, Jan and Pickles. Looking forward to your show again today. By the way, Simon, excellent post about Judge Strickland and Baez’s secure line deal. I agree with you, it sounds like a bunch of malarkey.
hey how else are the defence going to pay for there dream team, they don’t care about anything but money, it’s begining to look like the anythonys are the same.
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