Are they dragging their feet on the 2nd autopsy in hopes that they can claim some stranger broke in & disturbed the evidence before the defense found time to get off their fat butts?

I just do NOT trust the words OR actions of anyone working on the side of Casey or of the Anthonys.

Poor little Caylee continues to be victimized & marginalized for the benefit of the sociopath who killed her.

Disgusting!

I think dragging their feet is the very best the defense can do to delay M getting convicted. They’ve got nothing else!

Sean, contact The American Cancer Association. Much help there. I always like to double check things/people. Now murderer KC. “Oh what a tangled web we weave, when first we practice to deceive.” WHAT an insane CIRCUS this Trial will be! Makes the O.J. Trial PALE! Can you imagine the Parade of the Psycopathic World class Liars? I feel so sorry for the poor Prosecutors. HOW DID this pig get a Dream Team?
They think she is rich, famous? Totally INSANE, that’s all it is. Druggie too? I watched the jail videos of her talking with her family, she ABSOLUTELY looks insane, lying her pants off! Going on and on weaving stupid details, trying to make it all sound REAL! WHAT a sick lunatic! Especially interesting watching them, since the body has been found. I read recently that she was crying inconsolably upon hearing they FOUND the body! JIGS UP, KC! Again, only ME ME ME ME! Nothing tho, when it was confirmed that it was Caylee. Obvious - she already KNEW!

ORLANDO — The remains of Caylee Anthony, which were discovered last week in a wooded area near her grandparents’ home, have been released by the medical examiner’s office to a funeral home.

The child’s remains were sent to the Robert Bryant Funeral & Cremation Chapel in Orlando after documents were signed by the girl’s mother, Casey Anthony.–>>

http://www.floridatoday.com/article/20081224/BREAKINGNEWS/81224002/1006/NEWS01

I believe they want immunity just so they can never be convicted of anything BECAUSE they want to be able to write a book and collect the check. It’s always about “what’s in it for them” with these people.

If they did nothing wrong and nothing against the law why would they have to plead the 5th????

I am afraid LE will give them immunity and then just get more lies and crazy stories. I heard their lawyers have to promise they will reveal something worthwhile to help in the conviction of M before they would ever promise immunity.

I know I’m all over the place but REALLY, if they are doing a 2nd autopsy - then the ants are in this to defend their daughter - not turn her in. IMHO.

I believe the bag he saw in Aug was the same one they found same color etc. LE says that he has taken a poly etc and theres nothing up with the meter reader.

I think he was frustrated that they were not paying attention to him so I think thats why he said the “friggin body” comment. Just my opinion

DJane, I totally agree. If the Ants are found guilty of obstruction or anything, they couldn’t write a book. If they get immunity, they can write a best seller and make millions. These people simply aren’t human.

I swear leonard Padilla needs to go back to whereever he came from, he is constantly saying this and saying that so he can look like he knows what the facts are when he dosn’t. He says he was shown the video from the P.I. in Nov. and told him to take it to law enforcement?? why would he tell him to take it to law enforcment if on the video there was nothing there? That was before the meter reader found the bag in that area. Padilla,IMO is sticking his 2 cents in on what he thinks he knows to be the truth all the time, and its always after the facts have been public. He’ll say ” well back in Aug, or back in Sept. blah, blah, blah, blah, like he knew this information all along. IMO, hes a phoney and only here because its a high profile case and he wants the publicity. And why hasn’t he taken that lie detector test he blustered about taking?

Shan, I agree… Kronk was probably frustrated & disgusted at the lack of action.

The guy did HIS part by notifying LE & he has every right to expect LE will do THEIR jobs. It’s ridiculous to expect any citizen to do followups to see whether police have done their jobs. For all he knew, they found the bag & it was just some trash.

It makes perfect sense that when he was back in the same location after all those months & out of curiosity he went back to see if the bag was STILL there that he would finally check to see if it was worth his time to bother calling LE yet again.

And I don’t know why Nancy Grace (well maybe I do, shes a phoney IMO also) was always saying “well , at least Padilla is out there looking for Caylee”….no he wasn’t, he looked over a dive team…I never saw him in the Econ River. And I can almost bet that he did have that stuff planted there to pull up for the cameras……And thats exactly what Tim from Equinoix search said, and I beleive Tim, he has nothing to gain.

I definitely think they talked in code. They’re looking at Lee for possible obstruction/accessory after the fact . . . I think he’s in up to his neck.

Doesn’t make sense to me that people like the Ants could raise just ONE lunitic.

Annie it is totally obvious that lee and casey were tryng to talk in code…

lee culd be chargd with obstruction and aiding and abbeding

Pickles…. “abbeding?”

Another accusation of incest or did you mean ABETTING? lol

Funny typo. LOL

annie-
read your post I stated all along it was highly odd and plain weird a meter reader would call in a suspicious bag (3 times) and not even bother to get out go and kick the back or look inside, because most of us would not wanna place a 911 call unless we were sure to not end up looking silly or follish so i am not believing of him never have been…its al gonna come out though…and appaarently i was right cause the video and the two p.i now involved and paddy states that the meter reader was off by 600 yards about the location, anyways its a mess. this is all just MO tho

Why didn’t he touch the bag? Maybe so he couldn’t be accused of being involved in a murder case.

Those thousands of psychics who tied up the tip line ought to feel good about now. Why don’t you guys write your vision down and just keep it at your home or mail it to yourself? That way if you’re right you can say, see I’m psychic!

All the thousands of psychic visions that someone had to transcribe made the real tips…like the meter man one…get less time than they might have had. The task must have been overwhelming. All those visions are as much at fault at the crime not being solved as anyone, I’ll bet.

Cindy forcing them to follow up and explain all those tips she thought were so great, when they needed to be following leads that might actually lead somewhere. If I was the one taking down her information for the time line, I would have asked her to tell the things that she knew were real. What punishment, to have to listen to her drone on and on with all those made-up lies Casey told her, even after she knew they were lies, she seemed to delight in explaining them all. Sort of SEE, they were believable, weren’t they.

Even after Melich tried to say Cindy, lets get rid of all that stuff, she wouldn’t give him time to even speak. MY MAMA ALWAYS SAID, DON’T INTERRUPT CINDY. You had your turn for 1.5 hours of relaying Casey’s drivell, you could have shut up for 10 minutes so he could speak. When he finally said, Cindy, Cindy, I can’t even talk to you…you won’t let me. YOU PULLED THE “I’M A GRIEVING GRANDMA card out of your bag. What a freudian slip there Cindy.

You should have been a worried grandma, a concerned grandma at the end of her rope, but at that point, when you wouldn’t allow people to look or question or exhibit logic of any kind unless they were looking for a live being. So you said.

By saying Grieving Grandma…YOU were giving away what you knew.

All your fussing, whining, crying, needing your hand held daily by someone in the police department or you’d throw a publicity fit.

Well, they had more important tasks to be doing - to find Caylee - you were not allowing them to do that.

Don’t you see that your frail, poor me, just let me explain from MY VIEWPOINT, was a time wasting bit of nonsense…as ridiculous as your drone on relays of Casey’s lies.

No wonder Casey was crazy. Cindy..you are the queen of denial. If it turns out you knew all that time…YOU should be charged with OBSTRUCTION.

I wouldn’t give you immunity to testify. I think you should be called as a hostile witness and force you to plead the fifth.

But not talk? Cindy, I don’t think you can do it. I think you’ll be too sure you can talk Casey and you out of trouble….

Caylee was such a cutie…she didn’t deserve this.

It is obvious why Cindy & George want immunity.
Because they lied about things before by stating things that they knew were false and if they speak again their earlier “mistruths” will be obvious contradicting everything they will tell us now(assuming thay will tell the truth).
The Anthonys are a disgusting bunch. Their behavior has been borderline criminal.

I say no immunity. Let the truth come out and let the Anthonys pay for obstructive behavior.

If Padilla was told by the PI that Caylee had been found dead, and then the PI didn’t report it to LE as supposedly duggested by Padilla, why would Padilla wait all that time until it was found in December, and not say something to LE about it himself? Isn’t that almost an obstruction of justice…to know or believe that they had just found a body and not say anything?
That seems odd in itself, but then to come out and say he had that knowledge for all this time is pretty weird, because it makes him look like he didn’t act properly either.

I just now got the creeps when I read this because suddenly I remember how just a few months ago Baez was trying to gain a special permission from the Judge for Casey to go “search for her daughter” in some “secret” places, asking that it be without the attention or knowledge of the media etc.— now what was that all about??? What was she planning to do?

Sheller said,
in January 1st, 2009 at 7:26 pm

Ll Mom…thanks. I have the conversation between Casey and her brother on the 28th decoded, I think. Took a couple times listening to the poor audio on July 28, but its there.

What is the translation of the coded message, Sheller?

IV, excellent theory. Is it possible Baez had prior KNOWLEDGE about Caylee’s remains.

Considering all the lies & liars involved in this sickening murder case…. I wouldn’t put it past that guy to PERJURE himself in court in order to get Casey off.

Caylee was cremated last monday

JanIce ~ hi there…where did you read this?

Timbit, I was wondering that exact thing. How could Padilla be told that the PI knew Caylee was dead and not immediately tell LE to investigate that statement? When G said they had investigators following the kidnappers, I didn’t understand why LE wasn’t immediately all over that either. I mean, shouldn’t someone have stopped following them and actually arrested someone or declared it false information?

I am really disappointed in this blog. All you did was speculate, not one word of fact. Leave this poor family alone. I think that George and Cindy Anthony truly believed in hope against hope that their granddaughter was alive, and that their own daughter had nothing to do with it. Do you have a grown child? How would you react to this, I mean, really, deep down, would you try to believe in your son/daughter no matter what? This is what they did and they are now dealing with the reality that she did this and have to come to terms with the fact that their daughter is a murderer of her own child. I would have held on to all hope as they did and would have persued any means of getting help to find Caylee that they did, until evidence was presented as it has that she was really dead. I am so sick of the ugly comments, the total speculation of their inner workings. Are any of you serious Christians? Read your Bible, why do you have the right to pass judgement? I believe in being honorable and doing the right thing, and being decent to the next human being, and I really do not have any respect for someone to pretend that they are a Christian but are being hypocritical to their religion. My heart breaks for Caylee and even more for her grandparents. I feel sorry for Casey because she is who she is and made such horrible decisions with such dire consequences,and she does need to prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

Sheller:
Some corrections: “The day Caylee went missing” - does he mean June 15 or were they still thinking it was June 9? If so then he’s talking about calls and texts she made to other people than her mother on that day NOT on July 15. Remember Leevil got hold of her phone records possibly before LE did so he knew who she called and texted.

I do agree that she is trying to frame a couple of those people possibly.

M says: “Casey: “ I do have another friend that lives in this area or within this housing complex.” Could mean the OTHER people she knows who live at Sawgrass Apts so they could be framed too.

OMG, sailor is this a religious blog? Oops, I’m in the wrong place! Also, C stated that her daughter was a sociopath; she wasn’t blind to the possibility that she could commit crimes, even though she hoped it wasn’t true.

sailor12 at 7:55 pm -
For a “so-called” Christian, you sure are passing judgement faster than the potatoes.
We know more about this case than you have time to catch up on - unless you’re on a sub with nothing else to do for the next three months. We’ve read every document and watched every interview with police. The grandparents have destroyed evidence and lied to the police since the beginning. THey have KNOWN since the beginning (July 15 - 16) that their daughter killed Caylee. THey have been grandstanding and making money off of this case as has Lee - the brother - while trying to cover up the facts. You’ll see. Just wait.
Isn’t your ship about to leave port or at least this blog? Don’t judge us. You don’t know us or know what we know.

sailor-are you serious? who in this world could think that she didn’t do it? who in their right mind doesn’t call police for 31 days when their child is missing. i would call them in 5 minutes. all she cared about was stealing money, sleeping around, and bar hopping. i am sure her parents didn’t want to believe she could do this, but facts are facts.

sailor 12: I apologize if my words offended you. I believe in kindness to my fellow man as well. Yes, I have grown children. But I also believe that a higher being gave us intelligence for a reason. Besides telling the difference so we make correct choices between right and wrong, we were given intelligence to see the difference between moral and immoral behavior in others. My heart ached for this little girl, felt the hurt in the heart of her grandfather, and appreciated the efforts her uncle was making to find her. Why this young woman was like she is, I don’t know. I wish she wasn’t, just like I wish all the other people hurting children in this country wouldn’t. Do I see that they are evil, yes. If I don’t speak up and say it is wrong, why have a voice or a conscience.

Happy new year everybody

The plot is getting more sinister.
Wonder if defense/Ants had access to earlier tips like from the meter reader , in August.
Maybe they(P.I’s) did find Caylee in November. Maybe she was slightly moved to a more obvious place so somebody, hopefully same meter reader, would find her. Maybe duck tape was put on Caylee in November to confuse everybody especially jury.
All I can say, glad FBI is involved in this case too and not just local LE.
For the defense this case is all about winning, at any cost, no matter how low they have to stoop. So much $$$ is at stake if they could win.
Sorry, not too impressed with local LE.

The day she went missing is June 16. The last day she was seen. He is talking about the flurry of calls and I think she even called her mother. He wants to know if she reached anyone that day, he asks about sharing information. She says No.

The other date he asks her about if other friends were involved and she says what day. He says on June 17…he mentions night and she tells him NO they weren’t involved. She tells him it was all during the day.

The last day Caylee was seen by various people excluding the Ants, was June 15.
Somehow, I donot put much trust in anything that the Ants proclaim.

2 cents..They did a lot of that normal evasive talking, too. I agree.

Morning T …thanks…

Since you’re a therapist, does anyone else think that the lawyer and Padilla “thinking about” giving a reward to the meter-reader is another way for them to be “thinking about” more free air time for themselves?

I’d have been more impressed if they both just sent him the money and not talked about it. After he got the money, he could announce it.

Listening to the NG show now. Reviewing the time line. I hear KC’s voice shaking sometimes when the questions get TOUGH during the interrogation. I know there are voice stress tests. I wonder if they have given her one? There must be so much that is being held close to the vest, by L.E. Good thing! The more Bozo knows about what they have/know, the more he will work with his “dream team” to knock it down! All these “reach out” things, in this great Sheller “script transcription” above … such stilted, obvious CODED talk. They have to be the most hated family in the U.S. I guess they set up the code, when she was released from jail, the first time. Oh KC, you have us all fooled. You are sooo bright!
Pickles, I think you are 2 hours away from me. Pretty far for lunch I think. Maybe not a great idea … darn.

My predictions for January 2009:

1. Once Nancy Grace comes back from vacation the real bombshell Caylee news developments will pick back up again.

2. Cindy and George Anthony will get an immunity deal, but this will be tougher on them than you think, because if anything they say turns out to be untrue then the deal is off.

3. Everyone involved with Casey will be re-interviewed by the investigators, leading to thousands of pages of released transcripts.

4. Hidden Oaks Elementary School will make special arrangements for kids who would have to walk through the crime scene to get to school.

5. Investigators will create a timeline for the fictitious Zani the Nanny and try to determine the true whereabouts of Caylee during all the times she was supposedly with Zani the Nanny.

6. Somebody from the defense Dream Team will withdraw.

CIT… where are you? I’m out of control and I need your logical mind to calm me down. LOL

MMTh - I understand.

Snookers - good post. I’m making a copy of your predictions. They’re good.

Sailor.. I”m not sure if you truly believe all you wrote or you just came onto this blog to cause trouble. I know in the Blogging World, there are many people who jump from one to the other and just post a bunch of anti-blog garbage. They don’t really care about the topic, they just automatically go in and start attacking. Just to feel some sort of “gotcha” and then run.

But, just in case you ARE for real… you should know that most everyone on this blog started out feeling sorry for the grandparents. What kind of humans would we be if we didn’t? Each of us who are parents have looked deep into ourselves to ask “what would I do?”. And, I think most of us have realized that while we can still love our child, there comes time when we also have to realize that child has committed a horrendous act. Add to that the act was against our own grandchild… HER child.

If these grandparents and uncle had decided in their anguish to do all that they could to help police, who could blame them for anything? But, nooooo.. they twist the truth and keep trying to thwart law enforcement, all for the sake of their daughter. Who is left to fight for the murdered child? Who is left to care whether this child is dead or alive or who is responsible?

I have never doubted the love of these people for their grandchild. What I DO doubt is the means they go about showing that love since she disappeared. Apparently, they have enabled this daughter all her life. They have told police that she is a thief and a liar. The entire family knows this. Every word out of the daughter’s mouth regarding the disappearance of the girl is a lie.

Have they all gotten themselves stuck in a huge web of deceit? YES! But, do they try to get themselves out? NO!

Sailor.. tell me… If you had information that would help police find the killer of your 2 year old grandchild.. would you need immunity to give that information?

To me.. this says it all. The End.

Was rushing around here. Hadn’t read Sailor’s email. Being a good Christian or good anything - (a good Jew, Muslim, etc.), *isn’t inconsistent* with accepting PROVEN Scientific Forensic evidence, is it? They both exist together in this world - don’t they? Like WE all exist together. Human Decomposition (ooops or was it PIZZA decomposition Cindy?), was proven to be in the trunk of the car KC was driving - her mother’s car. (She owns NOTHING, has NOTHING, no lap top, no car, ALL is furnished by her Mother, including food, shelter, clothes, probably medical insurance, AND for her daughter too!) There were 2 dogs, highly trained to alert ONLY to HUMAN DECOMPOSITION. They won’t even alert to dead animals! They alerted to the TRUNK. Then there is that hair, showing decomposition (DEATH), also found in the trunk. That hair IS an Anthony hair! Casey is the ONLY one not here, the only one not accounted for - NOT PRESENT! This really isn’t the time or place for you to preach about Christianity to us, is it? It is about the death of baby CAYLEE ANTHONY, right? That’s our purpose! Sailor, are all of the Anthony’s Christian?

OH yeah.. and while I’m at it… JANICE… you must be related to Leonard Padilla.

You type .. “Caylee has been cremated”, nothing more. Talk about DRAMA.

Then you give gobbly-gook reasons how you know this and why you can’t SAY how you know this. Talk about self-important.

Pfffffffft!

We all know her remains were released to a funeral home. DUH. And, just because a funeral home has the word “crematorium” in their letterhead, doesn’t mean every single person that goes there is cremated.

Now…. in all likeliehood, she will be cremated, since so little of her is left. (that’s what I would do). But, the Anthony’s lawyer keeps reporting that there will be a funeral. That to me says, nothing is final yet.

Add to that his comments are followed by “they will speak to investigators AFTER the funeral service” makes a cynic like myself figure they are holding off on the funeral until it suits them better.

Hey, I was one of the first to say that I hope they quietly cremate her and hold a private service. It isnt our business. That it isn’t an Anna Nicole Smith extravaganza. As far as I know, no service has been held. And, I could probably win a lot of money betting that her service will outdo Anna’s.

Either give facts or don’t. Its that easy. Hit & Run blogging is annoying.

Ooops, meant to say CAYLEE (GADS all these “C’s - Cindy, Casey, Caylee) etc. “Caylee, is the only one not here, the only one not accounted for …” etc. Sorry.
I have passions too, Sailor, gourmet cooking, my Music career, reading, gardening, but I don’t think this is the place/blog for any of them, correct?

RE: Pickles @ 2:52 p.m Jan 1/09:

I would suspect that Child Services did have a file on M, the whirling black hole, and Caylee, but they most likely would have closed the family file and Caylee’s file after LE notified the court that they wanted to drop the child protection charges.

Florida Child Protective Services would no longer have a mandate to intervene. However, social workers could be called to testify in the black hole’s trial if needed. Don’t think they will though as LE seems to have loads of info to work from courtesy of the black hole’s lies,etc.

I am retired now but I used to be a child protection social worker for the B.C. government and we often petitioned the Law Society for a lawyer for the child in the child’s protection case so that the child had their rights protected and had a voice in court.

But, the child’s file would have been closed after an autopsy report as there would be no further help that could be given to the deceased child. The only way the family file would be left open was if there were other children still in the home that needed protection.

Also, LE would have most likely had knowledge of any protection issues that Florida Child Potection might have had. I know that I was very candid with our RCMP when we had cases that we worked together on and they were candid with me.

(Coolmoss handing Pickles a hot chocolate and a butter tart)

elaine,
re read 8 pm post of janice. funeral home worker has revealed to us the cremation is over.
thank you janice for stopping in and taking the risk of sharing. it is sad.

Whatever Jaybird.

Coolmoss…ahhh nice to have jooh bak…

Coolmoss, I bet we could snail mail them something. Might be easier than finding an e-mail address? Maybe get their phone number from Information, (Sheriff of Orange Co. - Caylee Anthony case?) start somewhere like that? Even the school would have a phone number for you to call? They might help you. Zip They might be able to tell you who to write to. Just start somewhere, and I am sure you will get “direction”. “We are either part of the solution, or part of the problem.” I always thought. I think you are all terrific trying to help LE to get to the bottom of this INSANE quagmire! One lunatic is enough, but a whole family of liars, breaking the law, hiding evidence, and **ONE trained in law enforcement who knows the ropes from the INSIDE**, also helping? Good grief, there was talk early on about their losing a granddaughter, then talk about their not wanting to lose a daughter too, and WOW, they probably knew TOO they might lose a son, AND their OWN freedom? All going down? A House of Cards! A very TOXIC family. Inevitable end … long time coming?

Well put Betty….and one of them a traind law enforcement officer…who knows the ropes from the inside…Caylee had not a fightng chance…like many othr childrn..

Hey Betty did you hear bought that broad who killd her 2mos old in Salem? Shovel to the dome….yappp dats whut she needs

I second Coolmosses motion regardng sailor…

Coolmoss we are close to eachothr? I thought we talkd bout that before but I cant recolect where jooh are!!

Pickles, aren’t you in OREgon? I’m in B.C., in the Okanagan Valley.

hey everyone. i been being a couch potato today ( rare) lol watching the sci fi twilight zone marathon..lol

and caught NG special too…you know watching it in a documnetary of sorts really makes you see how bizarre and strange this whole case is.. and that M lied consistently throughout this from day one.. so, that in itself screams guilty, foul play i have said this before…
anyways thanks MTC for the code post I didnt think i missed an obvious ‘code” speaking, but again it was hard to hear each time i listened, i really had to trun it up too when C & G were talking to her…
ah maybe some news tomorrow.. maybe not till after the holidays…

Being Canadian, I am not real sure how the system works in Florida, but here’s what I’m wondering…if M was telling Leevil where the body is, how did she get a chance to tell him that there was a body hidden? My first thought was that her lawyer had to have told the Anthonys but that can’t be right because why wouldn’t she just pass the location info on to Leevil at the same time. If she had told her lawyer where Caylee was, he wouldn’t be obligated to tell LE would he? I would assume not, as that would definately not have been in her interests, so how did the Ants learn that there was indeed a body? can anybody help me understand this?

heres a thought lol

why was lee acting so gun ho to talk to detectives, in those interviews, as i stated before, almost gleefully ratting out sis, only to now turn and be possibly facing charges of obstructing or helping sis? again, doesn’t make sense, but to me he was more than forthcoming in the interviews with bad stuff on sis… to then be accused of covering or helping, i don’t know doesn’t add up but nothing does in this rotten case….anyeone agree???

in one jail visit c instructs casey that the only thing not reviewed by police would be a letter. and in one interview I think lee says did you finish that letter yet? I don’t know if she ever sent one as she got released, then had time at home with them.

flippen - because the defense knows there is no need for a 2nd autopsy. Nothing was found in the first autopsy that would show cause of death or show that M did it. There is nothing to refute. It’s a waste of time and money.
It was just another chance for BB to whine and groan and try to get sympathy from the public against mean old LE.

um dave??? whom are you referring to????

Its such a train wreck! I too watched NG last night and just was ill.. I found it very interesting that Monster would dodge all questions from parents and put everything on L. “As I have already told Lee”..”Lee has all those names and info”…WTH?

Hey, Dave the CT Democrat,

Wow! Thanks so much for pointing out the spelling error.

Are you the Blog spell-check police? Guess all of us on here better make sure we check our spelling before we press “Post My Comment”.

agree flippen, total train wreck, case is maddening, but I suppose that is why it has held the publics interest for this long… IMO its just another mother murdering her kid, why the rest has all come into play remains a mystery, i still have faith M will be convicted…

Democrat. Says it all.

oh it was you coolmoss.. LOL no biggie i make a million of them… and don’t care! LOL If i had to type formally correct i would do it right, on a blog its ok.. so thanks DAVE… i better go back and check your spelling too!!

Hi pammyliz …. Happy New Year to you and yours! :).

I like formal things to be spelled correctly too in most of my correspondence but I find that on a blog it is often hard to catch one of my spelling mistakes as I always seem to be typing fast in order to get my comment on the blog before it moves away from the topic. The blog sometimes moves really fast. But really, in this context, who cares. As long as you can understand the post, it doesn’t have to be perfect, imo.

No kidding, mytwocents! IMO, I think it would be one of the worst things to happen.

I agree Coolmoss! (((((HUGS)))))

Heck it took me forever to figure out what Pickles was trying to say on her comments. lol.. But I love everyones imput and I can look over typos and understand the point.
PS. For the record I am the Original Typo Queen!

Of course I just remembered how utterly STOOPID and foolish BB is and gosh knows the PI’s don’t seem to be top drawer either so maybe they did enable someone to find the remains thinking it would help their case - but I don’t really think that and I don’t really think it will help their case. It is really very suspect to me that two ant camp PI’s photographed “that spot.” That shouts “GUILTY” to me - as far as M is concerned. How else would they know about it?

Jaybird-Thanks for trying to help me understand how Leevil knew about the body. the only thing that doesn’t make sense is that if she told him when she was out of jail, why wouldn’t she have told him where to look then?
My2cents just said the conversation was during the first time she was in jail. If so, and the Ants knew then that Caylee was dead for sure, then they could be charged with something for allowing the investigation to spend time, effort and money on the continuing search for a live body (sightings etc). Maybe that is what they need the immunity for.If they told the truth about knowing early on, they would be in big doodoo. Maybe they now know, because of the new PI video, that LE will be able to prove they knew, and thats why Lee is worried about charges too.

What’s so strange to me, is that THE WEEK after Caylee was discovered missing, the Ants put up a website asking for donations AND personal assistants for Gorgy and Leevil (without pay, of course). Why is this so strange? Would someone explain this to me–I’m dumb but not crazy. God Bless Caylee @}-

Timbit, your above comments just gave me a thought …..

I wonder if there is something fishy between C & G and the PI filming the spot because C & G may have learned later that Caylee was dead but did not know where the body was for sure. Perhaps they thought this video evidence might cause reasonable doubt and be a way to help Casey out.

Now maybe they are concerned that over telling the truth because LE might charge them and that is why they want immunity for fully disclosing what they know.

There sure seems to be something going on with them talking to LE again but it sure is hard to know for sure. It just seems to get crazier and crazier for sure.

hmm sheller well go figure..lol now the guy says he taped over it and now theres no tape?? lol again crazy case.

Any lawyers among you? Would it have been illegal for them to know where the body was and not say anything? Or would it only be obstruction if their actions could be shown to actually hinder the investigation so it wasn’t found?

IMO, at least Baez knew where the body was and he didnt’ alert LE because he knew that the longer the body stayed there, the more it would decompose and the LESS information LE could glean from the body.

If LV and the ants knew this - or even if Baez only told them she was there but not WHY he wanted to stay there, that’s why they need immunity. I would so love to see BB disbarred over this.

Cybersleuth,

So nice to see you again.
Yep, have the feeling that LE was sent on another wild goose chase to the Ants house based on stuff that was found in the body location area. And that book, on the pics it still looked pretty decent, colors bright etc. I would think it would be a soggy paper mess after 6 mos in the florida wet elements.

Hey Snookers,

Great point about the book. I wondered how it looked so good too. Even if it had been in the bag and protected for awhile, when the animals got into the bag, that book would have been scattered along with the bones and whatever else it looks like LE/FBI found at the site.

I seem to remember a comment in the last few days on TV that LE recently seized from the Ants some masking tape but it did not match the masking tape found on Caylee’ remains.

I thought about the text comment from Amy to M about when M was going to return Amy’s masking tape. I wonder if LE/FBI contacted Amy and picked up her masking tape (if Amy even got it back from M.).

george worked as a security guard for a company

G. worked as a cop in Ohio 20+ years ago.

I could write a book about my own dysfunctional family, but it would be filed in the comedy section.

I don’t believe the FBI falls under the Sunshine Lawe, which is why I think there’s a lot more we don’t know about yet.

I still want to know how C got hold of Zanny’s apartment application. She new the description of her car, etc. Think an apt. employee let her see the books?

Looks like everyone’s gone to bed. See y’all in the a.m.

Hey, love2bgran, that’s one thing I can’t get over either; something’s not right at Sawgrass?!
Child porn going on there, ya think– somewhere?

Snookers…I think you are right about that book being way too suspicious.Of all the things belonging to Caylee that they could have put there, that book had to be the one thing that a lot of people would recognise because of the picture of Caylee reading it that was all over the media.the only other things that were paired with caylee in the media were the doll (still in the car) and the sunglasses.Maybe they found sunglasses too, and that’s why LE took sunglasses from the Ants the same day they finished processing the wooded area.
It’s almost looking like someone went out of their way to insure it was discovered.Pretty good for the defence team, as the book, (not water soaked) could only have been there a short time, suggesting the body was moved. Reasonable doubt Ladies and Gentlemen! Maybe that was Leevil’s job…to drop the “evidence”.
The plot thickens…..

I’m tired of wracking my brain over this! Every twist and turn in this story puts all other literature to shame. And shame it is…
1. georgy lost $30,000 in Nairobi scam
2. ants gonna get a divorce (why?)
3. flop-mom accuses Jesse, so does sin-dee
4. they all got together for a family round-up to get their stories straight after mum-my got out of jail; all complicite; my daughter’s a lawyer– I listen to her
5. One and one still makes two.
6. I’ve lied myself, but as Dueteronomy says, “And eye for an eye”. I hope they all go blind. God forgive me. God bless all children @}-}– Good night >

MrRealist,
My “hopes”, not predictions, is “no immunity for any” and “charges for all”– sounds like marching orders, to me!! Charge!!!!!!!!!

jan exelent article…i cant understand why thed lrt bb do the stuff hes doing i also dont believe he will preform a secondautopsy that it was just more motions for the defence..and that vidio why would they only vidio that spot are there other vidioes of other spots?? makes you wonder…i also thik it makes the defence look guilty of more then they are saying and as for the whole ant family and thier immunity request well ive never in life seen a family act this way when a family member was murderd…especially a child i must say its been nice not to hear c spouting of her lies and theroys…..but im sure its just the calm b4 the storm….the only one i feel for is little caylee she didnt ask for anything but love i cant immagine what her little life was like with these people but it was probably very confusing…i know children need routine to feel safe ans secure i dont think she got that but thats just mo!

2nd autopsy, and on, and on. Desperate attempts to prove that Caylee was not murdered by a family member. Wake up people. It is called life insurance policy.

Just want to say that I have several friends in law enforcement, as well as friends who are attorneys and I am told and I do believe that there is much evidence that the public has not been privy to. They do not allow the most damning evidence out for public scrutiny and we just have to trust them to hold on to it. At the time of trial, this will all come to the surface and we will probably all be shocked with the now hidden details. There is obviously a conspiracy and nobody in their right frame of mind could miss this. George is past law enforcement and is able to teach what to say and do as well as how to cover up. Cindy is a nurse and of course she has been in the presence of death in her time, enough to know it when she “smells” it. Lee has been drug into this also, by his mother of all people. There has been cover up from the get go, Cindy washed the clothing, gave the wrong hairbrush and toothbrush and all the while knowing exactly what she was doing. These are criminally educated people, all of them. They have constructed a dream team for the murderous monster of a daughter, still the question is where is the money coming from? This question needs an answer, how else can they expect donations from the public? Also, the meter reader..I have said that he would have had to do some seriously hard and time consuming work to have planted the body and buried and strewn the bones so well that it appears to have been there a long time. Give it a break! As far as anyone on this blog passing judgement, well, the Anthonys have brought judgement upon themselves by actions and none of us had to do that. I think we all agree that spelling hasn’t one thing to do with our thoughts, we can look over that part and not make an issue out of it. What is important is that the person guilty of murdering that precious child be brought to trial quickly and severely punished. Then to add to that, all the family that has contributed to the cover up prosecuted as well with strict punishment for them too. Also, folks need to quit sending money to them, let them find a way to pay for this mistake on their own and if they have used donations for finding Caylee for this defense, the investigators or their own personal use, then make them pay it back! It does not matter if Caylee was left in a hot car, drowned in the pool or was sedated to death or her neck broken, murder is still the reason she is not here and her sorry excuse for a birth mother should be strictly punished. In other words there is no such thing as an accidental death here, it was simply and plainly murder. I could not care less how much she cried at learning the body was found and confirmed, she knew it already and she just knew she was caught redhanded. Caylees blood will remain on her hands for a lifetime for her and well so.

Gannieto4:
Great post. I agree.

Happy New Year to all my peeps!!!!!

OMG.. I have been out of commison for a bit… When it rains, it pours!!!

This is getting to be the most convuluted (spell?) mess I have ever heard of… everyone is f-ing crazy. Everybody is covering up for everyone else?? What has happened to decency?? moral obligations? personal responsibity?… has eveyone forgotten this is about an innocent child murdered at the hands of her ‘mother’???

Personally, I think all the ants should be jailed on obstruction of justice, possibility of aiding and abeiting. ALL THE WHILE, a two year old baby, literely rotted in the ground. This is sick..

To be honest, I have absolutely no sympathy for anyone.. except Caylee.

When the so-called new posters came on board, it was like mutiny on
the bounty… I believe ’some’ came about just to stir up crap.. the others, just to see us react.. and we reacted just as we should..
we are protecting our ‘family’ rights on this blog.. we all have been thru hell and back with this case.. WE are fighting for JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE.

As I am sure, we have all been told, if you don’t have something nice to say, don’t say anything at all.. so I am finished talking… and I suggest that if someone here (NEW) comes in swinging.. please leave.

Okay, off my soap box!!! I have missed you guys.. I have been sick and could not type.. but I DID catch up.

To my reg peeps, keep the faith… we know what our ‘family’ stands for…

xo

Well…all very interesting. If Amy had the duct tape before Casey took it - perhaps Amy had used it somewhere in the house… those pieces could be linked to the tape found on the remains. About Casey’s secret code conversation with Lee… have other friends in that condo…..Other pet friends that were buried there also? Was one named “Nanny”? Whatever…. I can’t get over the terminology that these people use…. “Reach Out to Mom” “Could this be advantageout”.. what brother and sister talk like that? Wierd…

Laurie - I have never heard anyone talk the way M does. It’s like she’s imitating what she thinks a grown- up talks like. And all the BS!
When in jail: “My gut tells me she’s okay. But if that changes, I’ll reach out right away.” In a calm cool tone of voice. Who CARES what your gut “says?” The child had been missing for a month!
She’s a really lousy actor and liar and I hope to heaven a very lousy killer - so that she’s caught and put away for LIFE!

Sheller…. great post yesterday about the convo between lv and m…

You did an awesome job of picking it apart.. it all makes a little more sense to me now. Thanks…

Good morning everyone…Lilred

Betty I Springfield isnt to far for lunch in the summer…I love drivng down I-5 in the summer….

Cindy is an RN. As an RN, she is a manitory reporter of abuse. There are pictures of Caylee with buises and Cindy was going to take Caylee from Casey because she is an unfit mother. In the eyes of the state, Cindy is just as guilty not reporting and covering up for Casey. So if I murdered someone and asked for immunity, I would get to walk free? Cindy and George must be up in the necks in trouble. Ofcourse Lee already is. The other night on NG in the tapes Cindy asked Casey where was the Tiffany Heart ring? I wonder if Casey left it at the crime scene? Jose Bozo is whining again, LOL! I would like to see him in court crying to the judge as Casey goes down!! As I watched those tapes last night, I wonder why didn’t the cops call Casey on all her lies as they went, they did some, but the dates were wrong and if I was a cop and some slime B@#$$th took me for a wild goose chase, I would be knocking her head in the wall. I want to know the person Casey took duct tape out of her purse, what was she doing with it? Taping her own kids mouth, is that where Casey got the idea. What are these ppl doing, drugging, taping, and abusing their children so they can party? Don’t they know what the rest of the counrty knows? There is a “new” thing out there girls called birth control and if you use it and go out as you do, you don’t have to buy duct tape and share your drugs with the kiddies. You probably wouldn’t get charged with murder either. Casey you are one sick B&^%%$th!

Just a thought- I can’t stand the sight of Casey and felt all along that she killed her daughter, however has anyone thought about the possibility that this girl could be a lot SICKER than we think? Like perhaps a split personality? She insists that “Zanny” was the last person that she saw her daughter with over and over again, even when she is told that Zanny does not exist. Could it be that she herself is “Zanny”? In her own crazy mind she may have abandoned her job and become the “nanny” when people were pressuring her to find a real babysitter (Richard Grund). She was clearly NOT cut out to be a parent at that time and the pressures of trying to prove she could handle being a good parent AND working may have pushed her over the edge. She kept up the front for quite a long while until Cindy made her completely SNAP when she addressed the issue of stealing from her Grandparents and possibly getting custody of Caylee (who was by that time Casey’s only free meal ticket in that home). Mental Illness is not a pretty or predictable thing, and her family probably had no idea that she would be capable of actually killing Caylee. That aside, they were wrong to stand by and support her when she had clearly done something very bad to their granddaughter. Shock? Denial? Who knows? Now that Caylee has been found it’s time for the entire family to just come clean about what the know- they ALL owe it to poor little Caylee! May she rest in peace.

Coolmoss and Flippen thank you for your support…the choads out there who are coming on here just to cause trouble and mess with me are LOSERS who arent wanted or welcome on the blog…

I have someone else say they think caylee has bruises on the pic above (my favorite pic of her)…Her upper left arm at her shoulder looks like there is a bruise there, but hard to say that its not just shadowing! I wouldn’t doubt it though…

Its bs….newbies complain…welp lets ask Jan if thats true cus Jan and Simon are the ones who wuld kno.

C~A its just bs…plain ol bs

I wish Sean was around cus he wuld tell them all in plain enuff speach and type to go f~ themselves and leave me and the blog alone…

Naw its that phyco Marcie aka Dellacat…its her maybe she is with them other craZies….just maybe I never thought of that…

LI_MOM…abbeding was a typo I was tryng to say aiding and abetting…SORRY for the typos….

Hi Pickles! I bet ol Caseys gut was going to explode when she found out and then back to eating candy bars. Too bad she can’t make pasta in jail. I heard it is really good comfort food! Not that Casey needs comforted for anything, you know hse didn’t do anything wrong. Spoiled ass brat!

Pickles - just a freudian slip! Because M sure was “abedding” anything in pants (including gals I wouldn’t be surprised!) And like I said anyone who has no more to say on this blog about this case than THAT has my lowest lowest regard.

We care about WHAT people say NOT HOW they say it! ANd what nincompoop from CT said isn’t worth spit.

Muscatinegal…yah kno she is a piece of work…she found out Caylee was found..got a splittng headache…had an anxiety attack required a sedative….wich was valium I found out..then had to have a pop tart…valium is what they give inmates who need a sedative…well here in ORegon

Thank you C~A…ahhh I luv you

Mytwocents….you are gonna get me startd…abbeding anything in pants…you are makng me laugh….oh my eyes are leakng…ahahahahah anything in pants…oh crudd…mang thats to much…

C~A

Hey Pickles, do we all have to spell correctly or just u

Jrsfarm…its just me….

Shelly its not the same area as where Caylee was found…see they are full of POO!!

cuz when i get in a fizz i can’t remember how to spell words w/ more than 5 letters!

Gr8grlnms spellng is not an issue here…please dont worry about it…no one on this blog cares bout spellng…

G8RGRLNMS said,in January 2nd, 2009 at 10:17 am:
if the trial is taped, & I hope HBO or whoever is looking into payperview if not a free show ( i’d rather payperview then C&G profit ) but if it’s televised or recorded they can kiss a book good-bye, who would read their lies.

u really think M was nuts enough to create an alter ego, is that the right term? i think she was just a mean ass bit~h who lies thru her big ass teeth.

Jrsfarm at 10:22 am - I don’t think the ants have a say in whether the trial is videotaped and aired. That’s up to the judge. And you can bet that the major stations including Court TV will be sending in their lawyers to file motions for permission to broadcast the trial.
If the motion is granted the ants won’t make diddly squat on it. No way.

Jrsfarm naww I dont think she has an alter ego or split personalities I just think like you she is a mean A~ b~ who killd her kid so she culd go smoke pole and dance on one…

I heard the bruise mentioned a long time ago and it was determined to be a birthmark. I think they even list that birthmark in the description of her on Help Find Caylee, or someplace.

IF (and this is a big IF) Caylee really was cremated on Monday, I’m furious. Baby deserves a real grave where people who care can visit. Cremation makes her COMPLETELY disappear. Ants would be completely rid of her.

thats my hopes mtc, that its made public & C&G have no recourse to profit, any longer!
regarding the way they speak, a few posts back, they attempt to talk like superior beings ( as if the common lay person has no clue & we don’t cuz we’re not nuts ) imo but doesn’t that conflict w/ their hands out in true pauper style!

Im sure the ants will find some way of profiting from this

C~A said,
in January 2nd, 2009 at 10:00 am

I have someone else say they think caylee has bruises on the pic above (my favorite pic of her)…Her upper left arm at her shoulder looks like there is a bruise there, but hard to say that its not just shadowing! I wouldn’t doubt it though…

Um the one on her left arm doesn’t she have a birth mark there and thats what it is?

I think she looks sooo tired and her eyes look swollen because of it in a lot of pictures :(.

Shan I too think Caylee looks tired and spacey in alot of her pics…Maybe its just her being a small child..cus kids do look poorly somtimes but Caylee looks xtra spacey to me in her pics…

LE stated they found all the bones they had to grid off over and acre of land to find all the bones…some were the size of pebbles

IF they did cremate her…thats just messed up Im sure thats what killr wantd

k, thanks pick- will call & see who has it.

mytwocents- Thanks for your thoughts- and I will be laughing every time I see that photo with Casey’s BIG GRIN- you are so correct- she is most certainly the Big Bad Wolf! It was nice to laugh & find a bit of humor in this very sad case. It has been depressing me for so long! Hopefully justice is just around the corner- we are all praying for you Caylee! We love you!

If Court TV covered the Spector case, which wasn’t nearly as interesting as this one, I’ll bet they get to cover this one. They’d better! I just got DVR so I can tape every day of trail and spend all night watching!

mytwocents-The Original said,in January 2nd, 2009 at 10:40 am “if they can manage to look sad instead of mad at the funeral”
I don’t think C can make that leap!

i think BB should be requested to produce the pic from back in Oct of the nanny OR explain why he doesn’t have 1.
i hate it that the defense can throw sh~t out there then drop it w/o a follow up, just to stick a piece of doubt in the minds of those watching.

when I go to church, I hear that being Christian is not a passive role… Rather that social justice requires an active role. In addition to following this case, there are other things we can do for the sake of children and parents at risk. I wonder if this passage sheds light…
Ezekiel 25:17. “The path of the
righteous man is beset on all sides
by the inequities of the selfish and
the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is
he who, in the name of charity and
good will, shepherds the weak through
the valley of darkness, for he is
truly his brother’s keeper and the
finder of lost children. And I will
strike down upon thee with great
vengeance and furious anger those
who attempt to poison and destroy my
brothers. And you will know my name
is the Lord when I lay my vengeance
upon you.”

Tori, someone came in here yesterday claiming she knows this “from where she works.” News station? Newspaper? Ants Atty’s office? May not be true at all. But if they did do that, it makes me mad.

I’ve heard the tape was taped over, too. Then heard Paddy say the FBI has it. Then heard the guy that videoed hasn’t turned it over because he’s scouting for most money for it. I’m so confused about the tape! My BP is rising over this!

Thanks Luv

Jrsfarm, I wouldn’t buy/read an ant book either, but there are a bunch of idiots who would, unfortunately. Grrrr

I hate to think it may turn out like the OJ trial. If M walks, she won’t be walking too far.

I mean really how much evidence is enough? They have to convict her murder 1!

lol Gran, i dare say no one on this blog would last an hour on the jury.

I have a lot of respect for Padilla because it takes a real man to stand up and say he was wrong for getting her out- HOWEVER has anyone noticed that he has a different theory everyday and it has never panned out??? I think that he brings an interesting character to this storyline but I also think he has inserted himself into it on purpose for pub. I like him but where is the line drawn??

Jrsfarm, We’d have to have poker faces. Act clueless and unbiased. Bet I could earn an Emmy for my performance as a “neutral juror.” Of course, I would be doodling nooses on my note pad.

Hot curling iron! LOL

m2c@8:57 right on ive always thought about m wasy of talking but could never put my finger on it~like pretending shes a grown up~exacally or the way a grown up would talk!!!:)

heard on HLNs that the anthony’s are asking for immunity to help convict casey is this true?

I’ve begun to hate the word “absolutely.”

PICKLES YOU OUT THERE????? HELLO!!!

love2gran,yes that word drives me insane to,is it a anthony thing are what is that all they know how to said,and my gut feelings,i wish someone would shoot them in the guts

How are they going to find a jury who doesn’t know about this? Yikes, hope they don’t move the trial to my county.

No burial yet flowerchild just rumors that they have creamated caylee

I could see if she walked free all of us sending hot curling irons to her house.

i don’t feel like any of the anthony’s deserve immunity,those asses know exactly what happen to caylee,and they covered it up,i don’t feel like they had anything to do with her death,but i believe they knew she was dead and covered up for casey

On WESH-Channel 2, attorney Brad Conway said his clients George and Cindy Anthony will turn over any evidence, even if it’s damaging to daughter Casey’s case. Conway told Bob Kealing that law enforcement did not find duct tape in the Anthonys’ home. Duct tape was reportedly found on Caylee’s skull. “We are expecting many more developments in the coming weeks,” Kealing said in ending his report.

From TV Guy on 12/31

Tori, no stones. I don’t think Lee killed her but I think he knew a lot he could’ve told LE that wouldn’t enabled them to find the body much sooner. If that had happened, there might have still been tissue, etc., that would’ve been even more helpful in convicting his sister.

I meant would’ve enabled them . . .

I am actually an atheist and I am not trying to pass judgement on anyone here… just saying that this is such an unfortunate situation and that there is a lot of heresay going on…it is speculation and not fact. Just because you read it in the news or here on the TV, does not make it fact. Looking at things objectively is the first part of critical thinking.

Tori, I know. It’s torture. School starts back on Monday. I’ll probably let all my truants skip school for the rest of the year cause I’ll be too busy blogging to work.

Shan, can’t just SEND curling irons. Must place on up the party part for best effect.

Your thoughts? Correct me if my facts are wrong.

1) They showed videos of brother Lee holding a new baby Caylee and his look was with stronger adoration than I’ve normally seen from a sibling.
2) Bro Lee, in police questioning spoke in very demeaning terms describing Casey. Lee also ‘disappeared’ from the spotlight for awhile, did not want to submit his DNA and did not what any family members to take lie detector tests.
3) The child’s name consists of her mother and uncle, Lee.
4) Casey, as money hungry as she is, would not reveal or gave questionable identities to the father of Caylee, even though it meant possible income.

Has it crossed anyone else’s mind that brother Lee could be the father of Caylee? It could explain in part why all the Anthonys have acted as they have. Even without the murder, could they not all be in serious trouble if there was an occurence of known incest?

Okay if M were innocent - I know as a parent if my child were missing for a month I would gaggle up a bunch of lies and deceit to lead LE off track of what they are trying to do yes sounds like an innocent person to me! *sarcasm*

Hi Shan:
The other day your name was highlighted to take you to your myspace. Could you tell me how to do that?

They all need to be punished!

If Casey had to sign the papers to release the little angel then she must have to sign to have her put to rest.What does that lawyer want to find it’s not an autopsy it’s looking at bones and Dr G said there was nothing broken or cut.If the Ants want to talk why do they want the monster at the funeral.There all sick this poor baby still has to take a backseat to the MONSTER

Yes love they do seem to know much more about todays elelectronics than us older folkslol!

Pattianne said,
in January 2nd, 2009 at 11:51 am

Hi Shan:
The other day your name was highlighted to take you to your myspace. Could you tell me how to do that

I put it as my website for my myspace link its optional but thats what I did.

My son texted asking if I could keep his daughter. Took me 10 minutes to replay with a simle YES. Sad.

i agree with you FlowerChild ,
& as far as you sailor 12 , guess you dont know much about the Case , the 911 calls missing 31 days not reported by mommy, partying at Fusian club , stealing caught in tape ?? decomposition in car Trunk , hair with death band on it, found in the Trunk duct tape ?? ), i could go on & on ,,,, we all think the Mother Casey is responsible , the Facts and evidents speak , sooo we will not convict her, the Prosecution will the D.N.A will……

Thanks Shan

No prob

sailor12 at 11:40 am = How about reading more thatn 600 pages of witness statements and watching hours and hours of interviews that C * G had with LE and the FBI? Have you tried that? Have you seen all the documents? We have.
We are not by a long shot depending on the news or on Nancy Grace. A lot of evidence has been made public due to Florida’s Sunshine Law which allows the media to request access to information that LE has gathered. LE can still keep some back so I’m sure there is more that we haven’t seen.

Now, go do some REAL RESEARCH and then come back. YOu’ll be singing a different tune and sailing a different ship I assure you.

By the way, Sailor, you seem to be mistaking your ignorance for some sort of objectivity. They are not the same thing. Now go, read, listen, learn.

MyTwoCents, I agree with you… I never bought into the idea that any of the Anthonys were talking in some kind of code.

IMO, if they were savvy enough to do something like that, I don’t believe they would have been STUPID enough to say some of the outlandish things they have.

They would have been aware that it would HURT Casey in the long run if they tried to back up what they KNEW were her obvious lies. And it’s totally idiotic for them to try to pretend Casey was a “loving mother” when they know full well that other people know they were concerned enough about her behavior to consider seeking full custody of Caylee and that Cindy believed Casey was a “sociopath.”

This is not a code… this is a family who KNOW their conversations are being taped and they are trying to find answers without tipping off LE before they can find Caylee themselves. I think from the beginning they were 99.99% sure Casey killed or did something horrible with Caylee & THAT’S why they were so afraid of her saying anything incriminating.

Casey was doing her “own investigation.” And we know that George was conducting HIS “own investigation” when he bragged about ‘watching’ the alleged kidnappers. And now we hear Lee joining in and claiming HE is doing his “own investigation.”

The whole lot of them were so obviously DESPERATE from the start to develope any flimsy defense that might point everything AWAY FROM Casey. If they truly believed Caylee was still alive, they wouldn’t have been willing to sit on their fat butts simply hoping Casey MIGHT tell them how to find her. They’re ALL despicable & I bet Caylee hates their guts for choosing her killer over her.

This sentence is interesting:

Casey: On the l7th, during the daytime, nothing would have been at night, whatsoever.

Can we assume she buried Caylee during the day? That sure narrows things down for LE and if she dumped her baby during the daytime, somebody might have even seen her with the trash bag.

Just for the record, I am a RN and here are some of my thoughts: We have heard that Cindy is a “nurse” and that does not necessarily mean she is a RN; people call themselves nurses with all kinds of differing education, sometimes it is 9 months of community college to get certified as a nurse’s assistant, sometimes they are high school graduates who are hired by a private doctor to take blood pressures and weights, perhaps give allergy shots, and still they dignify themselves by calling themselves “nurses”– no law against this. Unless somebody says they are a RN or LPN, which are licensed and regulated designations, they may call themselves a “nurse” — the other thing I want to point out is that just because you are a nurse you do not necessarily know the smell of death. If a patient dies in a hospital or hospice, the smell that happens is very short lived before they are discharged to the morgue. The smell in the Anthony car would have been one of a body that had been dead for some time in a closed trunk in the Florida heat, something quite different. We don’t know what kind of nurse Cindy was, and we don’t know if she ever encountered a dead patient… if she worked for a pediatric outpatient clinic, for example, she would not know the smell of human death.

I love this blog and feel ever so awful for that poor child. Nothing makes sense in the whole complicated progression of events; the initial phone call Cindy made to the police sounds like a genuinely concerned and angry grandmother wanting to desperately find the lost child after weeks of a runaround from Casey, whom it sounds like G & C had to handle with kid gloves in order to keep darling Caylee in their lives.

LI_MOM…abbeding was a typo I was tryng to say aiding and abetting…SORRY for the typos….

Pickles, I was just teasing you cause it was so relevant to the theory about Lee (and incest). It tickled my funny bone.

Believe me, I’m NOT the type of poster who wears a “spelling police” badge. Goodness knows, I make enough of my own typos. lol

Just wondering if the Anthonys are STILL sticking to the story that the nanny took Caylee, killed her, put her in Casey’s car trunk, then took her out and dumped her near the anthony home and that Casey is an innocent victim?

I think we all know who did it. I just hope she gets what she deserves. How could you kill a child and dump her like trash. How did she walk around wearing a button with Caylee’s pic for all this time?

IMO the family knows alot more than what they are saying.

And what happen to Jose saying that when we have finally spoken, everyone will sit back and say now i understand, that explains it?
And George and Cindy Anthony saying that the kidnappers are being watched and when asked if Caylee was alive, George says absolutely numerous times?

How can any of us understand taking a child’s life? And duct tape around the mouth of the little skull? SICK!!

Rest in peace Caylee Marie, you are a little angel in heaven with God, no one can harm you now!

Star- You asked, “How did she walk around wearing a button with Caylee’s pic for all this time?”

Because she didn’t have to look at it! LOL!
I want to know how she could strut around, swinging those hips in tight jeans with a t-shirt she was forced to wear tied tightly in a knot on her hip, chewing gum and looking all defiant WHILE HER BABY WAS “KIDNAPPED?”

She just LOVED being escorted everywhere by all those strong men. I wonder how she likes being escorted everywhere now by very strong and very stern and strict women who I am sure are not at all impressed with her? I hope she has to get used to it. In fact I hope she has 25 to life to get used to it!

Me think that one of reasons the Ants did their own investigations(LV & G) is because that way they could be dipping in the donations from the “Find Caylee” fund while being unemployed. Such a money grubbing vulture family. Georgie’s daily rides with his billboard, all funded by donations IMO.
Wonder if a new derogatory expression will be added to Webster when this is all over. “Behaving like an anthony”.

SAILOR~MOON SAID: there is a lot of heresay going on…it is speculation and not fact. Just because you read it in the news or here on the TV, does not make it fact. Looking at things objectively is the first part of critical thinking.

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So your speculating that what we read it NOT fact then right! (OH, by the way, there is NO specualtion on the jail house tapes, are we also speculating the way george lied through his teeth on Larry King…I think NOT…or the way m has acted for 6 months…straight forward, see it for yourself facts) and your also speculating and insuating that there is NO thought process in any of our posts …is that right! Don’t think we need your approval on what to think or how to think….and may i suggest you save your judegements and instead use your time more wisely and see that there is way more to this case then what we read, before you judge.

What we need here is an ant eater.

love2 ~ That’s half of Orlandso…( sorry )

oops was I being objective with that comment?

yes she would act like a great mom in front of a good mom ,
yeah gotsa , a real hyprocrite
as my mother-in law would say two face,
If Holly baby sat 1 year & a half what year? & wonder how old Caylee was ?
There-fore she (TOTMOM) must have been working , or taking some kind of course & I dont mean intercourse heehehehe apparently ….
Holly knows the family well, as she states on N.G

Hi C~A Happy New Year to you & your Family

four words for georgie, sindy and lee….TICK, TOCK, TICK, TOCK.

happy new year nanna…did ya get my joke ;P

my bad… LOL

LI mom, your post 2:05,

Imo you hit the nail on the head….

It diffently fits her MO…

Having a child is all great the first year to everyone, then you wake up and say, ” Hey, this is a full time job raising a child, no longer a baby..”

Plus, you said it best, around the 10th through the 20th she was hanging out only with new friends, friends that did not know her or Caylee that will, so M didn’t have to explain to this new friends the whereabouts of her daughter Caylee cause the new friends didn’t have a clue to her daily routine.
Making it easier for M is portray this new person.

ANNA I AM HERE!! whats up?

“American Pie” this is going out to the Tot mom…
So Bye_bye Miss Ammerican Pie drove my Poni to the levee but the levee was dry ..
them good ole boys were drinking whiskey & Beer oops ! Rye ,
Singin” this “ll be the day that I die… This ‘ll be the day- that I die……..
ps read the rest of the song, fits tot -mom to a tee

pickles…where in kauai? i live on the north shore, princeville.

Uhh…Im not sur…I know I mail her letters to Kauai Hawaii…Gosh I wish I knew now…is Laei there? is that how you spell it?

hi C~A no i didn’t get the Joke,did you send it today ??
this stupid Computer I have to reboot how

can i stay on same page ? Jessie

no C~A i didn’t get that Joke is it good ? lol stupid comp i need to reboot each time

Yah me eithr…my aunt is a lolly lolly ice head…

love2bgran said,in January 2nd, 2009 at 2:14 pm

What we need here is an ant eater.

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C~A said,in January 2nd, 2009 at 2:19 pm love2

~ That’s half of Orlandso…( sorry ) (maggott)

I bet they did cremate her..i mean its the final and ultimate disposal of Caylee’s body

Hi Pickles,

Re your post @ 9:57 a.m. Jan 2/09:

Glad to do it. It’s no problem at all for me to respond to people who make these rude, snarky comments and/or personal attacks on others.

It’s actually a pleasure as it irks me to no end when I see someone attack another person just because they can. It’s chicken Sh*t behaviour.

If they want to make a comment or point on the murder of Caylee, then have at it. But, when they use the site to be hurtful to those of us who want to discuss the case because we care, then that’s when I get ticked off.

Please don’t apologise to any of these ridiculous people who only come on the blog to make trouble and sling hurtful remarks. What their remarks and behaviours show is how truly ineffectual they are.

And the bunch that continue to come on this blog under different names have some serious issues. imo. They show a real issue in not being able to accept the consequences of their actions.

Their need to be hurtful, nasty, and petty and their need to seek revenge for being banned plus their lack of ability to move on speaks volumes about them. Okay, I’m jumping off my soapbox now.

it’s just easier to have to her burned away..and put in an urn…wipes there hand clean of the little details she deserved…the care she deserved…the time and effort to plan and pick out her coffin and her blanket…(if she was cremated) I think its wrong…from what i heard they got most of her bones….you don’t cremate babies..

Hi C-A …. Happy New Year to you.

I feel the same way as you do about Caylee’s remains still being in the morgue. It boggles my mind and I don’t understand why the Ants have not had a private funeral for her at least. Caylee deserves to have at least that happen quickly. I find that I have a hard time understanding their actions throughout this whole mess and I struggle having any empathy for them.

Every day this story gets stranger and stranger.

If you have not doe anything wrong then what do you need ummunity for? If you’ve been telling the truth and believed she was alive and have NO clue what happened to her why would you be worried about what you say? Haven’t you already told police everything that you knew?

These people are insane. I’ve thought from the beggining that they ahd something to do with this. It wouldn’t surprise me if they found out in August that someone spoted a suspicious bag in the area so they had the body moved….this wierd video shot and then put it back.

They are working to put so much doubt out there and its just sick. Their daughter killed their grand child, why are they so intent on helping her get away with murder?

If I ever harmed my child in any way my mother would be the first to turn me in and make me tell the truth. It doesn’t mean she doesn’t love me….it would just mean that she loved my child and knows what I did was wrong.

They are blaming the police for everything, but I think they just want to keep the spotlight off of them (and they are doing a horrible job at it).

I hope they do get their immunity and we find out some of the truth, because they will never live a normal life again. People will see them on the streets and snicker and make remarks…..maybe even tell them what sick and disgusting trash they are and they will continue to live a miserable life.

Good gracious, Sailor. Too much time in the sun or at sea or is it the effects of scurvy? All this blathering about facts and an objective viewpoint and you end up talking about a ghost in the window? It was the shadow of Sindee’s mother who had to sit out there during the interview. NOT a ghost! Is that what you call objective?
What’s your “objective” viewpoint on unidentified flying objects, poltergeists and aliens in our midst? Wait! That’s a topic for a different blog. Could you go to that one please?

coolmoss ~ Happy New year 2 u 2

The ants have done nothing but try to save M’s ass from day one. They have lied and changed their stories time and time again. Most families that face this kind of situation don’t do that and in turn needs spokes people and lawyers and immunity…They had my sympathy and slowly lost my respect as I objectivly watch them continue to care less and less about caylee and the truth and more and more about dinners at the Ritz and exclusivve interviews that NEVER said anything different in their support of their lying bitch murdering daughter. They have never once come out with proof that points toward her innocense. NObody has….but everyday for 6 months we learn more and more about not only m’s guilt but also that of her mother her father and her brother.

It’s all on video all the bullshiot they have spewed and their actions with memorial dismantling and so much more..

Most people dont refuse polys if they really want their loved one found and they are not covering up lies lies and more lies…most people like Mark Klass practically begged le to take his fingerprints and polygraph so they would rule him out and start looking for his daughter cause HE was INNOCENT…what have the ants done….refuse, lie, hide, lie, refuse, deny, hide, cover, wash, blah blah blah….

dont’ think Mark Klass or 99% of other parents of missing children lawyer up either…or brow beat and bash ANYONE looking for a body…they are dispicable in the way they act…and obviously in asking for immunity….they are finally willing to speak some truth but only if their law breaking actions and knowledge of what really happened doesn’t get them in hot water….oh ya, my heart breaks for these people who continue to dishonour their grandaughter!

Sailor, She’s in the morgue at the funeral home waiting for Baez to decide he has time to do this 2nd autopsy, which will reveal nothing new. Meanwhile. this baby deserves to be buried. Cremation is okay, but for the ants to do that to Caylee just seems wrong. I would want a place to go visit her.

The cremation story has not been confirmed.

Love ~ allow me to speculate.. tee hee

C was the quicker picker upper…she prob. did all m’s laundry and caylee, she prob. made the meals and cleaned the toilets and prob. made m’s bed everyday. C is a control freak and m didn’t appreciate being told what to do! So c prob. did it all….again, enabling that biotch to get away with doing whatever she wanted and thinking the world owed her! Guess what, maggott owes Caylee her life…and the world will sit back a watch her rot!

C must feel like a new woman not having to deal with that spoiled self centered little brat anymore…a burden lifted…cause that is what casey was to her parents…c even told all her friends such, so I am not speculating on that…those are her words…she’ll steal all your money and use you!! That’s what they created, and now they must reap what they sewed…poor caylee….maggot is such a monster!

Um… where have you found that evidence? that she is in the morgue at the funeral home waiting for the so called 2nd autopsy? and Baez has already said that he would not do the 2nd. And as for cremation that is their right… not ours.

and Betty1, I have stated all along that Casey is responsible for her daughter’s death. I am not open minded when someone committs murder, just sick to my stomach at people saying such horrible things about people who have gone through the worst thing in the world. CASEY IS RESPONSIBLE for her daughter’s death. I would be kicked off because I would say automatically that she is guilty!!!!

Sailor, the Ants have stated that the body will not be buried until the 2nd autopsy has been done. Believe me, they’ll want the media attention once they DO decide to bury her. Will likely also address their outrage at Casey not being allowed to go.

If there had been a funeral, private or otherwise, we’d know it.

Oh God.. now we have a ghost in the window during an interview? What next.. a seance?? Give me a break.

Anyway… Sailor.. we all know that the remains were sent to the funeral home. That’s old news.

Pickles, you are very upset over the possible cremation of Caylee. I wish you wouldn’t think its such a horrible thing. I, for one, am a proponent of cremation. They can still bury her ashes with some of her favorite mementos and have a beautiful service.

To me, the cremation is not the important factor. What I find to be disrespectful to this child is that she has not had a proper service, burial or “ending”. At least, not that the public is aware. So, that makes me think they are waiting for a more opportune time for media coverage or whatever to help themselves put off more questions. “The Anthony’s will answer investigators after the funeral”. So says their attorney.

And, lets remember, we don’t know for sure if she was cremated or not. That info was not from a reliable source.

Whether she is buried, cremated, doesn’t matter. She is still in heaven and has been for over 6 months. Lets try to think of her sitting on a cloud singing her songs!!

C~A I agree if it were my grandchild…she wuld be in a little pink coffin….but they disposd of her…IF they cremated her…she is absolutaly nothng now..I am not against cremation in any way I culd give a ratts behind one way or the other..but they have gone to all lenghts to erase Caylee from there life….

Nothing has been done with her yet!! Do not speculate… I mention that they want to cremate her and everybody thinks it is true on here. Just think of all of the news articles and how they get twisted in a short period of time.

Elaine..I am not against cremation..It just seems like they want to erase her from xistance..is all..I just picturd c havng a nice casket and funeral for her….

Sailor I didnt hear from you that they cremated her it was anothr blogger…and I am not speculating anything I am xpressng my feelings about it…it is there right and choice to cremate her body if they choose…Caylee like Elaine said is no longer with us..hasnt been since July…so one half dozen or another….it dont matter to me ….I just wish they wulda done somthng more pretty for Caylee

mytwocents - you might need to read all of my posts

I know that Caylee’s story is very personal to everyone, but she is not our child, or our grandchild, she is theirs. And they have the right to pursue another autopsy and have any sort of service or services that they choose. It is their right, no matter what we think of them personally. I think that they will have a public service after the private one and will thank everyone for their help, thoughts and prayers. and then focus on sending their daughter to jail.

Why make more of it than that? They are hurting.

Pickles.. I understand how you feel.

That little body has been through so much already.

Lets just remember… its only remains… her soul has been safe for months.

SAILOR ~ sorry but I have to stop you there, we have adopted this child as our own and we have been over this before with others who are as de-tached to this little girl as her own mother…

SHE IS OUR BABY! YOU WILL NOT TELL ME DIFFERENT!

SAILOR ~ They can thank all they want ….nobody will listen

Elaine…I like you know that Caylee hasnt been in her body since July when her mother snuffed her out…cremated or not….

Sailor…I didnt say you speculated on the whole cremation issue..I read it off anothr persons comment posted on here….and we are discussing it..we have the right to discuss whatever we so choose..wether its a real legit topic or not…

Nanna0f2…the song by Too Short is the hoe song the one with all the names….shoot any of the Too Short songs wuld be fitting to her…honeslty..she a hoe.

Elaine ~ I know your trying to make us feel better about the possible cremation but it is truly hard for me be ok with, like you said, that babys little body been through so much…I personally would want her arranged in a way as to have that the being the picture in my mind as to where her remains now rest…in something girly and sweet and soft…I just can’t wrap my mind or heart around being in a box burned up! It just seems yet another indignifying of her little body…her final resting place IMO should be maticulously planned and arranged fit for the remains of a FOREVER PRINCESS…

sailor ~ you obviously have missed a few months on the lies and antics of these people…did you not read my post earlier on a quick low down of what they have done?

I don’t give a crap about what they are going through …if they are gonna blatenly lie and cover up a baby’s murder..I give a crap about what that baby went through and how they are trying to cover it all up….why don’t you put more of your misplaced efforts on the rights of the child! We don’t have to hang these people they are doing that job themselves quite nicely!

I get the picture now… this is not about finding out what happened to Caylee, this is an “I hate all of the Anthony’s” and anything connected to them blog and let’s hang them. Casey needs the death penalty, but the grandparents are grieiving for two people, one an angel and one a monster. and for the last time, we do not know if she is being cremated! and if they do, it is their right, not ours!! A public memorial for Caylee would be nice. Would anyone be interested in coming up with a great memorial and starting a program to help with situtations like this and to also help educate young mothers? All across our country, this is happening way tooo much!

Sailor, I agree the Ants have to be hurting. I just can’t get passed all the roadblocks they put in during the investigation. They have agreed to turn over evidence IF they get immunity. That sounds like they weren’t doing all they could to help find their Caylee. If they thank anyone for anything, I’ll be impressed. They sure didn’t thank Tim with Equusearch for all HIS hard work.

the only reason you all hate the grandparents is because of the way the media has portrayed them. Yes, they did everything that they could to find Caylee alive, because that is what they chose to believe with all of their heart. Even the Investigators from the beginning have stated that the G & C have cooperated extensively with them.

CA- your low down is based on many media speculations.

What’s the name of the funeral home where Caylee is?

ya what cool said…

sailor12 said,in January 2nd, 2009 at 4:49 pm As a matter of a fact, the sunset is beautiful in a sailboat.
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Well don’t forget to take some oars with you in case you run out of wind.

No… we don’t use oars, an engine will do when necessary, just need to bring the extra gas…:-) I am really not trying to be mean here, even if it seems like it… I hate Casey, but feel strongly for the G & C.

sailor12 said,in January 2nd, 2009 at 4:49 pm Again, this is more of a hate forum, than anyone trying to get to the bottom of everyhting that Casey has lied about.

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Your opinion. We’re sick up to the ears with the ants’ antics. They’ve made a mockery and a circus out of this child’s disappearance and murder. And they’ve done everything they can to cover up for her murderer. Even still trying to get M to the “funeral.” If you want to be all lovey dovey toward them, that’s fine.
But I’ve had it. I don’t like to mollycoddle accessories to murder and I don’t care how closely related they are to the victim or the murderer.
If you don’t understand where we’re coming from on this then anchors away! (as they say!)

hate forum, YAH OK SAILOR MOON! That right, we should all just be ok with disicable behaviour and secrets that swirl around the murder and continuous lack of respect for her by her ENTIRE family….would that make you feel better….

It’s out of our LOVE actually that we can’t stand these people..you have to realize that they had our support and we have been here for 5 months out of LOVE not HATE…if you were around as long as we have been for this little girl you would see the love on this blog…it’s peeps like you and the hairy a$$ club that come in and SPECULATE AND JUDGE….not the other way around…
How’s the rum…baaaaaaaa haaaa haaa

sound like you need a different kind of blog page Sailor ~ SELF HELP or something…

( gives the tug boat a BIG HATEFUL PUSH out to sea)….

laughs, thinkin about CAPTAIN HIGHLINER….aaaargggg, have ya ever been to sea billy?

see ya all later H.A.G evening Jessie

Sailor,

I have read all your posts.

No one is denying that C n G are hurting. Of course they are.

Everyone on this blog would love to help C n G in any way they can, but C n G have returned all the help that has been given and offered with lies and deception.

The only time that C n G helped the search for Caylee was the 911 call that C made.

After that day, C n G n L have all made a concentrated, not very well hidden effort to obscure facts, to dispense as much dis and mis information as possible, to destroy the reputation of LE, to make it the world believe that all of the legal authorities in the US are in a conspiracy against them, to destroy and hide evidence, and they aligned themselves with the most untrustworthy, downright criminal organizations they could.

Take Padilla as a great example - why did they allow him to post bond in the first place for Casey? Once it was posted, why did they allow Casey to reside at their home? Once it was posted, why did they refuse to cooperate with Padilla’s investigation?

They have an agenda that is not and has never been to find Caylee - this is not speculation, it is their motivation as witnessed through their actions over the past 6 months.

C n G even backed up Casey’s lie as to when the last day Caylee was seen - Casey told investigators June 9, C n G n L all went along with that until investigators discovered the videotape of Caylee with her grandfather a week later. Why would anyone lie repeatedly about that date? Why?

Well, that’s the problem with sailors. Always blowing their own horn.

Sailor I will tell you why I think the Anthony’s should pay for this as well.

First of all yes they have lost their granddaughter and more than likely they will lose their daughter as well but think about this case for a minute. If Casey wasn’t in jail being charged for the murder of Caylee, do you honestly think Cindy Anthony would have taken those clothes out of that car and washed it before the cops could get their hands on them?

If Casey hadn’t been the one charged with this murder would Cindy have deliberately given the cops the wrong brush when they specifically asked for Caylee’s personal brush?

The answer is NO. She would have handed over all these things in hopes of finding the real killer. She wouldn’t have done everything she could to hide the truth. She broke the law. Obstruction of justice is against the law, plain and simple and for good reasons.

You have your right to have sympathy for the Anthony’s but please do not come in here and argue with those of us that have none any longer for them.

I am a grandmother of two grandsons, one being
three year old grandson and I know beyond the shadow of a doubt if I was in this position no matter how much I love my son, I would NEVER cover up for him if he was the one to take the life of my grandson.

You can support your children when they have done something wrong by trying to stand by them but not to just slap them on the hand for doing something wrong and then telling them it will all be ok soon.

Children need to learn right from wrong and at the age of 22 I would think Casey Anthony is way old enough to know the difference between the two. Her own mother has admitted openly on National TV that Casey was a normal person so they can’t say she was mentall ill at the time.

So I do have my own reasons NOT to feel sorry for the Anthony’s any longer and that is my opinion and not you or anyone else will ever change it.

Jan Barrett

uhm…thinks it was you that had the judgement of how we think and what we think…right down to not thinking basically at all…the being hatful and uhm…yah…these are RESPONSES TO YOUR DISRESPECT FOR YOUR INFORMATION!

You opened this can of worms nobody else. These are all RESPONSES….and I might add you wern’t very nice…so

sailor12 said,in January 2nd, 2009 at 4:42 pm “the only reason you all hate the grandparents is because of the way the media has portrayed them”
they were not portrayed by anyone, they played themselves in the interviews w/ le & news media, they would have faired better w/ actors playing their part!!
every child that dies at the hands of a parent, & there are several hundred a year, leaves behind up to 4 grandparents. Oddly enough C&G r the only ones I’ve ever seen waving their family sh~t on t.v. nightly- their choice.
their choice to do news shows, larry king for example- C saying ‘no evidence’ to any ? regarding her darling M.
interviews w/ le, when C’s hand was being called on changing her story her defense ‘but i’m a grieving grandma’, well i’m old enough to know if ur grieving u don’t know it to tell it, u just live it.
& who gives a rats ass about airing out a car when u can’t find ur daughter or granddaughter, let alone doing laundry.
and in true david letterman style- #2 reason i say C&G r pieces of sh~t is the fact that they tried to point to finger at INNOCENT friends who HELPED them locate their daughter &/or pinpoint other issues. They were evil enough, yep- evil, to blame innocent people w/ lives ahead of them rather than let their own be accountable. Why do i think they knew others were innocent, cuz they DROVE the damn car off the lot- if u thought for 1 second anyone else had done it would u drive destroy the evidence that might be the only clue to find ur granddaughter????!!!! NOT f~ing hardly!!!
#1 reason, in all honesty doesn’t need said again but what family loses a grandchild & goes to such lenghts to protect the killer. If they were so damned heartbroken how did they climb out of bed each day to: start a fund, beg for $, hand flyers, go on every news channel to say she’s alive, point the finger in every direction to keep it off M being guilty- don’t sound or look heart broken to me, as a matter of fact maybe C will raise enough $ to get her face out of the permantely pissed off look she’s go going on. And G can finally afford to get help w/ his sexual orientation, i don’t trust pretty boys- but now i’m just being petty!!!

Sailor - I thought you said you did NOT hate the ants? Better get down out of that crow’s nest before you get blown out of it.

You said: “At least I can look beyond my own hate and maybe see what can be done for all of the future children killed by their own.”

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Like Spacely said, all that can be done for future children killed by their own is to bury them. I also believe that now is the perfect opportunity to DISCOURAGE the relatives of those murdered children from trying to cover up for the murderer. I think we’re helping a lot! At least as long as the ants don’t become millionaires on Caylee’s blood. And I’m still very afraid that could happen. But I guess you wouldn’t mind that would you? And if you didn’t, well, isn’t that an incentive to others in future? Cover up, lie, make a media circus and become a millionaire! Yuck.

this is all about each of you “tooting” your own horn. And mytwocents, I got your meaning. just really chose to ignore. so I will leave this forum… instead of wasting time here, maybe I will go and see what I can do to make a difference. I was confused by this because I could see that you all loved
Caylee, but all you want to do is talk about how bad G& C are? I admire everyone’s passion about this, let’s hope that by your involvement, you will be able to make changes in your own communities and not just make comments on this site.

Ahoy, Val!
Yep. I think someone’s rowing in circles.

Sailor12:

So you think this blog is a “hate forum”? Is this your objective view based on facts or is this your objective opinion?

Is it because you are uncomfortable that others disagree with you so you have to resort to calling it a hate forum?

How do you know what is in the heart’s of the people on this blog? Do you have special powers to tell you what we feel? Or, is it easier to just label the blog as being a hate forum?

In regard to your comment about forming a memorial on our own …. How do you know that I, or others did not read that part of your post? Is this your way of showing us you are objective? How do you know what we might do or think about this?

How DO you know what others on this blog have done or continue to do for children?

Personally, I worked for the rights of children for years. I counseled children and their parents when they had difficulties like the Ants have had with Casey? I fought the system so that the kids could get counselling, good receive extra funds for the basic necessities of life and I worked with foster children each and every day.

Now I am retired and I SUPPORT two families in Guatemala not just with monthly donations but I continue to add extra money each moth and put in any extra money that comes my way.

How dare you make judgments and comments about the bloggers on here needing to do something for children in their areas!!! Pull in your horns, get off your soapbox and take a look at what you are writing.

Do we have to make a comment on everything you write? Come on … you are doing the same things that you accuse others of doing on this blog.

I think rather than set up a Caylee Memorial or Fund right now, we would all rather concentrate on bringing her killer and accomplices to justice first. Or at least get her buried. Or maybe get her mom to finally admit there is not Zanny. Or at least hear the “rest of the story” Jose has cooked up. Or bring some kind of closure to this case.

You can’t really do a good job at Remembering when you haven’t even finished the experience yet.

I also do not believe that anybody should ever make any money on anyone’s death. As a teenager, I had a friend who was hit by a car in front of me, and her mother wanted to supoena me to be a witness on the driver of the car who hit her (who was not at fault, it was truly an accident) and I asked why, and she said so she could get money for her death. I never testified. If any money is ever made or any books written, it should go to organizations to help abused children

Spacely at 5:19. RIght. Plus I’m afraid that if we tried to form any kind of memorial or whatever in the world that drunk sailor was talking about on her shore leave that C would sue us! C’s primary interest is making sure that no one BUT THEM makes money on Caylee so she’d probably think that’s what we were trying to do (assigning her motives to us - guilty people do that)

It makes you wonder when someone states they have read all of these blogs from the beginning, yet start up with all the same crap that if they had really been reading, they would have seen all of us already respond to and I think they would know how most of the regs would respond.

So, sailor, if you have been reading from the beginning, have you been making trouble from the beginning too?

Just ignore it and maybe it will go away….

mytwocents - Interesting idea about C assigning her own motivations to us……..

I am going to think about that the next time I see clips of her from the jail or one of her interviews.

Anna der yew be!!!

Spacely….word…

Spacely said,in January 2nd, 2009 at 5:27 pm

Mytwocents….chekyomail!!

I have no clue what happend the other nite….I was out on a yacht on the Willamette River for New Years Eve party….Jan has my ip she knows where my signal is coming from…she deleted all the comments…before I even saw them….Jan made me aware of the imposter and what they were doing…its that Marcie broad and her corhorts if that means the losers who use to be here and are now residing in there own hell hole chatzy then she is involvd with them..but its that loser Marcie aka dellacat who is pissie with me…thats all she can go fluck herself for all I care..Jan and Simon both got my bak..is all good

somex i refer to funeral home as mourge~same dif didnt realise it would cause confusion

Eliane….phoney….tiara wearing loser!!

Well, that’s what pirate ships do. They sail under a false flag so they can get close enough to fire their cannons. They cheat. That’s what pirates do. They cheat and they lie and they steal stuff - like the time and attention of good people on blogs.

I hear the Bermuda Triangle is nice this time of year. Maybe Sailor could head that way!

Gina!!! Dang Gina I love to say that…

Happy New YEar Gina…congradulations..on the job

Pickles - Got it!

Man the bastians! Cannon to the ready! Take aim! Fire!
Oops. Pirates already skedaddled over the horizon - with a boat full of holes! LOL!

Happy New Year, Gina! I do hope this next year is a big improvement for everyone.

I think the list for the hairy butt club does need to be xpanded to include all trolls wherever they come from or go to or are associated with…ahahahaha

yuppers pickles…..they all need to be dumped into the same black mole hole…there all of the same mental-ity!

If I can think of a good question, I will!

Ok…but maybe it will be like last week..I am not sure so dont quote me on it..but last week callers got to xpress ther feelings,thoughts,opinions,views,theories..but its all up to Simon…I will find out night before or so…but jah..call..think of questions..I hope its like last week alot of ppl got to discuss and xpress there feelings it was awesome

Toot toot toot tooot….

Thank you, Pickles! You remember me from several shows ago? I thought my voice was shaking, but so glad I called.

sorry i added to the confusion- i agree best to ignore- it burns my ass cuz i did sympathize at several points before i saw who they really were

Yah Val…you were perfect…the way you askd yur questions your voice was great…your a natural

Jrsfarm - I thought your post was excellent! No reason to apologize!

See, we’re nice people who accept new bloggers at face value and attempt to converse with them. But people like Scurvy Sailor don’t come in here with good intentions. They are malicious. It’s okay. We find out eventually and then OFF they go! Often permanently! lol!

With that encouragement, I will definitely try. I will by listening for sure.

Pickles - I suppose there are some real people in the world who still sympathize with the ants. Mostly people who are ignorant of the facts. But I think most of the people who’ve come on this blog with that attitude were just trolls who picked a point of view they knew we would disagree with. Purely malicious intent.
I don’t know that they actually sympathize with C & G. Probably just chose a topic they knew would heat up the discussion. They are a waste of time and blog space and they intend to be just that. They only get so many free screen names, right? So eventually they’ll run out and then hopefully won’t be allowed to register here again. “Abuse of the system” is what I’d call it.

Flog it flog the system…yah Mytwocents I hear jah…whatever will stir the pot or keep the the discussion unreal…We are hip to whats going on….

Ignorance is bliss I suppose…

I love listening to talk radio and callers so maybe a little rubbed off, lol.

pickles, i blew my top at sailor before i could get a grip.
thank u mtc, other people handled sailor w/ better tact than i did. i try not to get into w/ someone posting like sailor cuz it’s pointless & i have a short fuse.

Unfortunately I don’t think sailor will run out of wind or gas so she might be back. Probably not under the skull and bones flag (how appropriate!) but some other false identity. That’s okay.
We can deal with it. Don’t worry, folks!

Of course c and g forgive her..cus they are all insane….all of them..the tie that binds these yahoos is blehh wierd to say the least..and for those who feel they need to support them blehh to you too..sick freaks

ELAINE @ 5:34 p.m. JAN 02/09:

ELAINE, I AM NOT SAILOR12. I WAS THE ONE WHO WROTE ABOUT GUATEMALA, ALL THE WONDERFUL THINGS I DO, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH, BLAH ….

Please take a look at my comments to Sailor12 again as you have put your emphasis and comments in te above post to the WRONG person.

I was attempting to make a point to Sailor12 that he/she does not and can not know what is in someone else’s heart or in what they may or may not do in their life to help others.

COOLMOSS is not Sailor COOLMOSS is a OG blogger round here..who got runned off by the hairy butt club long ago…so no worries bout Coolmoss…

sailor ~ Yuppers I am pure evil dats for sure…your such a clever cookie…seeing right through me…(puke)

Pickles…foul mouth and naughty…can I have your kids?

sailor12

Hateful? What part of killing an innocent child, putting her in a TRASH BAG and throwing her in a swampy vacant lot, do you not find hateful?

No it is us that are hateful…sailor thinks we are hateful judgemental

C~A sure thang

It seems as tho debating with sailor is alot like debating with a person who stops in spews some nonsense then tucks tail and skins out…doesnt that sound familiar to you…post some garbage and not stick around to answer comments directly after the spew of garbage

yes sailor thinks we are hateful…and she/he is right! I hate the whole damn family! I have seen enough to form that judegment and i will stand by my feelings towards them and the biotch who did this, her own mother…let’s talk about that for a minute if ya want to talk about pure hatefulness…why aren’t you putting your efforts on that where it belongs….and talk about the mothers hatefullness towards her own child out of jeousy sailor moon….

I want to know why their local squirrels are so prone to suicide.

Jsfarm - No sorry I haven’t…

Val, I’m sure LE is more than happy to let Cindy, George & Lee feel free to keep talking.

They’re only making it worse for the defense.

I think I heard it said they couldn’t have a real second “autopsy”. That is usually a through, very extensive, examining of the organs, etc. Just an examination of the bones for injuries.The ants somehow were clever enough to keep Caylee hidden long enough, till the poor baby became nothing but bones. Chloroform, or a Duct Tape suffocation wouldn’t show bone damages. m really freaked out when a body was found. GOOD evidence! They didn’t say it was Caylee. When they did - nothing from m! Only wanted JOSE, her Savior!
I think everyone would have been in C and G’s corner if they were honest victims. BUT they are NOT! C washed m’s clothes - obstucting justice and pretending “not to realize” that, etc. (WHAT WIFE of a cop wouldn’t know that?) Then the SO obvious disgusting saccharin-sweet phony “portrayals” of their sweet, sensitive, daughter, “She had to come into our room to sleep, and had to hold onto Caylee’s teddy bear.” Pleeeeeze - this broad is one - tough - cookie! Then c’s hair brush game, AND then the additional comment “I should have given them the dog’s tooth brush.” Oh I see let’s f____ up our ENEMY, the FBI! No need to make a laundry list here of all their dirty little tricks. We know. They are GAME PLAYERS - NOT grieving grandparents. “What you DO, speaks SO LOUDLY, I cannot hear what you say.” THEY– not the media, have destroyed their “good name” (I am generous here). The media showed them for what they are. These ants are so smooth, I don’t think this behavior is new to them. I think they are very comfortable with their game playing, and have probably been living like this for years. This is why people have little sympathy for the ants. We can’t forget brother lv either. Trying to explain some things to you Sailor. My husband is one.

“I want to know why their local squirrels are so prone to suicide.”

Zenaida drove them to it? lol

i think the writer of this blog post really ought to be ashamed of herself. she has no understanding of legal procedure and is showing incredible insensitivity to the family for even presuming to say what she would do in their situation. pray you never find yourself in such a situation.

So who knows anything about M’s real daddy? How can we find out what and who he is? Apparently m and leevil are half siblings…same momma…different dads? why has he never been brought up…????

Hey, erin! You better check with the sailor to be sure she has a life boat or a life vest for you. You’re going to need it!

That’s all I’m saying to Troll #2 today -
erin - a red herring!

BBL

I love our loyalty to Justice for Caylee…we all gather and protect and most of all SPEAK FOR HER..cause nobody else will! I am very proud of the peeps on this blog, and even prouder to be a part of JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE…

Erin the herrin ~ dont we have freedom of speach…????

you should be ashamed trashing and crashing a blog article made for a murdered child…shame on you and all your hairy butt moles…

lilred - my posts say same thing!

In defense of Sailor12…his or her? idea about the ghost was not just snatched out of the air by him or her?
There was actually a video circulating around of a ghostly figure behind C & G on one of their interviews. Since then it has been proven to be the grandmother sitting in a lawnchair outside

jsfarm - ok, pickles found an article that said he was step-dad?

There are some Ants that I do have sympathy for …. all the aunts and uncles and the great grandparents. They must be devastated with what is happening. In all of this, they have not spoken or acted like C, G, Levil or M. The difference between the 2 sides of the family is huge

I liked this post by coolmoss

Betty 1… excellant post.

You definately have the ants down pat!!

For all who can’t see the forest for the trees…. remember ALL this ever has been is Justice for Caylee… which in as so far I have not seen it yet.

i haven’t heard or found that c~a & i honestly would be shocked, can’t see a step father doing what he’s done, plus G always states he’s her dad & i know i heard C say that about having him leave the police force after lv was born, so would have been an affair since lv is older- would like to see the article if u know where it is.

Jan, meant to tell you way b4 now, another great article..

KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!!

yah i know but i bet thats the way they do it in their family.. I know we bury and others don’t… its not something our fam would do, but I give them that, that it is personal.. or on a belief system… ( although ants beliefs are certainly at this point alittle questionable!)….?

Pammyliz, I believe they said they would have TWO memorial services. One private & one public.

That seems to be sensible. Which tells me that someone probably told the Anthonys they have no choice because IF they try to alienate the public from the memorial, it won’t play well in the media.

It’s bad enough we know they like to trash memorials for Caylee… they need to start looking like they don’t hate the entire world. This family is going to need the jury to CARE about them on some level when they’re up on the stand pleading for mercy for their ’sociopath sweetheart.’

Hi Elaine,

No problem, I figured you were in a hurry and misread and I really wanted you to know that it was not me. When the blog gets moving I find it hard to type comments quickly.

Yeah, I am tired of Sailor’s posts. I see we have another troll - Erin - on here though, commenting on Jan.

Sorry to hear you have a cold.

C-A…. yup, you are correct,we did say the same thing!!!

Pammy-Liz, I personally have nothing against cremation, except maybe in this situation. Yes, you are correct, it is a personal choice… and makes very good sense for many people. But I guess in my mind, I just want little Caylee buried - intact- maybe for the fact of the way she
died.. I am just weird about cremating babies.. or maybe I am just weird period!!! ROLF
BBL… computer needs juice

xo

Lilred - you are not alone…a baby girl IMO needs to buried with teddys and pink fuzzies and lace pillows!

and her favorite dolly ~ since she will never love a real baby of her own… she was robbed and m and others better pay ….

sailor and erin - match made in heaven… you both say the same thing, come in at the same time and belong to that same club…we got your number….are ya having fun?… I am

what is really happen is a bunch of trouble makin trolls with hairy butts….lmfao

Saluki @ 6:51 - Yes I had read that rumor about the shadow behind C & G and all of that and read it was de-bunked of course. Just thought it was ridiculous for Seasick to put that in her post when she was otherwise trying to pretend that what she said was objective and purely based on facts! LOL!

CA.. you have some serious issues. Why be disrespectful and rude and mean. We know you care about Caylee and hate the Anthony’s. So be it. We are entitled to our opinions, too.

ya I have serious issues with big mouths such as yourselves….

Seasick 12 - This is Jan’s blog and Simon’s. Not yours or ours. Unfortunately you come across as a lecturer and a nuisance. Not a serious blogger. And by now I’d think you know that few if any agree with you so why are you still here except to cause trouble?
Take some dramamine and keep on rowing or blowing or whatever in another direction! Puhleeze!

That was my last response to the wannabe pirate of our blog and her passenger (rower?) erin.

hey sailor - you can ask anyone of the regs on this blog and some newbies on long enough…I am not mean or disresptful…I know who I am …so don’t bother..

I am personally not going to engage in attacking back and forth..

do i need to go off topic in here again lol and talk about my staticky sticking hair ?? LOL to break it up in here?

yes I have the worst case of static hair head today driving me mad, i felt like a big dork all day cause anywhere iw ent with my clienst i felt like everyone was staring at my hair that was like electrified and sticking out at times and its so abd now it feels all matted to my head… LMAO..

ok a funny… its so cold one day in mich then next its 30’s and it creates a hostile environment for my ever so thin hair…

JS - it’s on the articles from that guy with glasses his face is always on the article…older dude with a bald head…and no it’s not my hubby…lmfao

OH PAMMY YOUR SUCH A DEAR….YOU MAKE ME LAUGH…XO

ok so you agree mags is murderer…you support of the ants is what’s way off not the operator

Oh my, pammyliz, Great topic …. staticky hair. That is such a drag to have. Is your hair long or short?? Mine is short but I bet it’s worse when you have long hair. I hate it when I get an electric shock. Anyone else have these kinds if hair problems?

C-A:

I wouldnt give a rats ass about that but we all know c does love the media and mouthing off…anyway, the public deserves it!

***********

Well, that’s exactly why I think there’s a hold up…. the family wants to ‘punish’ the public by not allowing them the right to grieve but their lawyers/spokesperson are telling them that they have to consider how THEIR behavior is going to impact Casey’s defense.

This family HATES outsiders, it’s evident with how nasty they were with anyone who wanted to find Caylee but didn’t also believe Casey’s cockamamie lies.

lol coolmoss

leave it to me I am the queen of “off topic” but its ok, you all love me tee hee

it is long,and fine and i’m not even exaggerating it is so bad today i felt people staring LOL my girl has it too.. its the change in weather and dry house…lol

other than that i have no input cause nothing is happening… i am wondering if NG will be back tonight…

whatever…i don’t take bullshiot from anyone makes me rude…so be it…i said it earlier…your welcome if your NOT rude…you were and you didn’t like your responses…back off!

lol pammy, what do u do for static hair, i use to rub dryer sheets over it

CA- you are the rude one… I have not called anyone a troll nor anything else… I just stated my opinion.

is this how you treated everyone else who spoke up differently? you tried to bully them out?

pammy - NG better be back , I hate when she leaves us with a stand in…the worst yet is the blonde with the glasses…and after she was on a few days…she was never back…JVM is not bad and the new one with the squinty eyes isn’t bad either…she talks fast i like that.

Sailor, you said: “I do not blame them for not believing in their hearts that Caylee was dead and did everything in their power to find her alive, possibly even knowing in their hearts that their daughter killed her.”

I doubt anyone really blames them for hoping against hope that Caylee might still be alive.

That’s understandable & I bet 99.99% of us might refuse to give up that hope until a body is found but it sure IS inexplicable that while they were lucky enough to have the world’s media trained on them they never once looked into the cameras and ASKED THE KIDNAPPERS to bring Caylee home?

Rather than take advantage of the media to help them find Caylee, they USED the media to plead for Casey’s defense.

That’s unforgivable, imo.

Static problem here, only long and thick…I have to tie it down or look like bad imitation Rossanna rossanna danna on staticky days. Have one of those ceramic ironers….takes way too long. My arm goes to sleep.

I don’t know sailor…havent always agreed here on the blog…why don’t ya ask someone else IF I AM RUDE …I don’t take your rude remarks of hatefulnees and being speculative very kindly…if that makes me rude then I am…I call it standing up for what I believe in and who I am….and I also call a spade a spade…if ya don’t like it or me don’t talk to me and I will PUT YOU ON IGGY TOO!

What is iggy too? Sorry, stupid blogger here.

SHELLER - IGGY IS AN MSN MESSENGER TERM..MEANING IGONORE…

Thanks..

Pammyliz, I do agree that justice will prevail.. thank you for trying to lighten this situation. I never really thought of the Anthonys using the media as Casey’s defense. Does not come across to me that way, since there was so much evidence from the beginning that it was obvious that Casey did it. What I did see was grandparents shaken to the core and trying desperately to believe in their daughter. Since Caylee’s body has been found, they have not really done anything bad. They are between a rock and a hard place. You have a defense attorney doing his job (because no matter what, in America you are innocent until proven guilt, even if most of America hates you.) Giving the toys away was ok… why let them waste in the rain, especially in our economy today, when there are kids out there who would love to receive them.

LMAO sheller.. ME TOO i have carpal tunnel and when i use the straigtener it makes my arms worn out lol
(have it severly bad from having my girl is what doc told me, well from years ago damage but the birth and pregnancy made it worse) so yah i last a little while straighetning myself, i have naturally curly hair
everyone remarks how it looks soooooo good straightened but have no time for all that too busy working and my girl… i felt so frumpy all day today, with the staticky hair, and a pair of ugly sweat pants a mismatched top and sweats dorky hair, i felt so frumpy and skanky today

I believe NG is probably preoccupied with her own legal problems these days.

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/

Jan. 1, 2009

CNN’s Nancy Grace wants Melinda Duckett records

CA you come across meaner and meaner all the time. Of course I don’t like your attitude, either. I don’t know you in person, so I can’t make the call of truly saying that I don’t like you. But you come of sounding like you own this blog and very selfish.

By the way…to complicate the PI issue. Apparently the only PI working for the Ants was PI Casey…the other one did not and now that one says he taped over the Video on the crime scene. CONVENIENT!!!

sailor your opinon at this point is meaningless to me ….go away! there are plenty of other peeps here…your wasting your time talking to such a selfish, rude and hateful blogger…and frankly, your starting to piss me off…I know who I am and don’t care to know you personally OR WHAT YOU THINK OF ME, YOU ARE NOTHING TO ME…dont adress me again…if your here for caylee and to discuss the case do so with someone else…I have had enough of your bullshitt…ok…do you get it! Leave me alone, get over it…get on with your life…GOOD BYE

I am not a certain “person”… I am a person who has an opinion also.

sailor… well i feel in this tragedy a little lighter stuff makes everyone chuckle, and myself included.. i read your last post, I do see what your saying ( have read them) but when you get into it with other bloggers we,, tempers and feelings will flare…

C-A is a dear, if you were here a long time you would se shes our most emoitonal blogger, i feel her outrage over what happened to little caylee.. coming through this computer, i never met her either but would love to, becase shes a good mother, wife and a person who stands up for justice… maybe you are to???…so I guess , if you stick around and we all try to tone down the attacking maybe we can have a good debate without all that other stuff… i see you do believe M is guilty, your symptahy for ants is your own, we won’t change your views either.. but the back and forth thing is not cool

Hi CHSAH …… Long time to no talk to you. Happy New Year!

Want to sing a round of Sloop John B with me??? Hey, Pickles, Hey C-A, how bout joooo singing too? Hmmm Hmmmm Hmmmm lol lmfao

IGGY!

just went to read about NG trouble link and didn’t find it what i did see was about john travoltas son dying age 16, how sad… I remember seeing him talk of the boy alot…how sad…

I’m back late and haven’t read all the blogs I missed yet; however, Sailor, the Ants did NOTHING to help search for Caylee. That sat on their butts inside their home. They showed up at one search location and that was only to yell at Padilla and Tim. SHOW me where they were involved in a search. SHOW me their tearful media plea for the safe return of their granddaughter. All they’ve done is criticize the people who DID organize searches. And all those tips? Why weren’t they flying to each and every location to check it out? They claimed LE wasn’t doing it, so why didn’t THEY?

I have to ignore you from now on.

Pammyliz, thank you… I am a good wife and a wonderful mother. My heart breaks with what happened to Caylee, and I hope that I have raised my son to always do the right thing. I hope that I will never have to go through what the Anthony’s have had to go through and I hope that none of you do either. It is the most horrible situation. I remember holding my son as a baby, and swearing to protect him for the rest of his life, so it is difficult to comprehend that there are people in this world, who could hurt a child. Yes… of course they can be a pain, but what joy they bring!

Doing good! C~A…coolmoss…missed ALL OF YOU! HAPPY NEW YEAR TO YOU AS WELL…

I do take offense to ANYONE who says that C~A is rude and mean…….THEM’S FIGHTING WORDS “certain person”……..maybe you could sail on over to Iraq and fight a real war!

Hi SALUKI, Happy New Years to you and your Salukies. How are the puppies? We have similar types of dogs - hounds - except mine are small Iggys or Italian Greyhounds.

Poor little Iggys are only 10 inches tall and 12 pounds. We have 2 1/2 feet of snow. Have to rescue the iggys when they got out because they fall through the snow and disappear.

First time it happened, my male, Sahar dropped down and all you could hear was him ki-yiing but you could not seem him …. just these odd marks on top of the snow that he made from trying to run under the snow. lol poor iggys. hehehe

coolmoss said,in January 2nd, 2009 at 7:53 pm
Want to sing a round of Sloop John B with me??? Hey, Pickles, Hey C-A, how bout joooo singing too? Hmmm Hmmmm Hmmmm lol lmfao
oolmoss said,in January 2nd, 2009 at 7:53 pm

ughhhhh….could we sing ‘row, row, row, your boat instead???? (heeeee…..heeee…)

sailor. see what I mean i see a side to you that is like all of us here as mothers… when you said you made a promise to your son (I did my girl too)…

maybe we can all agree to debate ? and do it respectful??

well it looks like Ng is another special…
might as well turn the tv over to the girl and let us watch wonder pets, or my little pony LOL
cause i dont think i can listen to M tonight, her voice grates on my nerves,

oh for pets sake…can’t even follow my own rules..

sailor - It was not your “opinon” it was your judement of the mentality of the peeps on this blog who have become like family to me..ok

Listen up here…I will agree to being civil if you stop your judging and talk about this case with some class! Otherwise, if you cant’ or won’t…I can’t discuss things any further with you…I am not about rude or hurting other…ok…I don’t mince words when I feel wronged or my cyber fam being attacked…I know these peoples’ hearts…I don’t have to meet them personally to feel connected and no you never once picked me out personally, but we are like family here. I will protect!

Hi love2bgran

Ugh I can hardly stand listening to the 9/11 call from C it breaks my heart.

Sailor said this:

Pammyliz, I do agree that justice will prevail.. thank you for trying to lighten this situation. I never really thought of the Anthonys using the media as Casey’s defense. Does not come across to me that way, since there was so much evidence from the beginning that it was obvious that Casey did it. What I did see was grandparents shaken to the core and trying desperately to believe in their daughter. Since Caylee’s body has been found, they have not really done anything bad. They are between a rock and a hard place. You have a defense attorney doing his job (because no matter what, in America you are innocent until proven guilt, even if most of America hates you.)

Well first of all the Anthony’s used the media to plead Casey’s case when they were suppose to be on TV to try to find Caylee. Instead they talked about how innocent Casey was, and there was never a plea on air directly to any so called kidnapper to bring Caylee home. All we heard was how innocent their daughter was.

Second… you say since Caylee’s remains were found the Anthony’s have done noting bad. OK, so does that make everything they did before that OK now? Does that mean we are suppose to forget what they DID DO BAD before that? I think not. They knew that baby was dead and that is why they did the things they did to cover up for Casey.

Third… if anyone in here comes off to you rude it is because of your comments that does not make any sense and your insistance in making comments that you know will stir up trouble.

We are not normally rude in here unless someone comes in sounding as though they are deliberately wanting to cause problems. These people have been in here from the beginning of the case and accept that everyone does not think alike but they do not continue to agitate others because of a difference of opinion.

If you do not agree with everyone in here that is your right but it is also everyone else’s right to believe what they believe so one more time I am going to say don’t come in here and try changing anyone’s mind, it just won’t happen. You are free to click out of here if you wish because we definitely are not forcing you to stay. Just QUIT trying to stir up trouble. If you don’t like it in here and our opinions I can kindly show you the way out!

Jan Barrett

Thank you Jan for helping to re focus things. I can’t keep on humming and telling iggy storys for much longer. lol lol

WELL PUT JAN!

Sailor, I would take Jan’s advice and jump ship before it sinks. lol…

Pammyliz…..hey my girl! (put down those pebbles! lol…)

coolmoss! You are making me laugh!!!!

I knew Jan would come rescue me! Whew! Now we can get on with JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE! Thanks Jan!

pammyliz……..you ain’t gonna get a man wearing those pants! lol…..(i see jooooo!)

My pleasure, CHSAH. I figure a giggle is refreshing … hehehe. Too bad I can’t sing .. not even Row Your Boat and especially in a round. Blagh, it’s nasty.

don’t bother CA i just turned on blues clues… lol its a special on the first 30 days etc…

CHSAH? you dont think my fancy dressy top with old sweats and clinging hair will catch anyone? me neither thats why i feel old and decrepid today all day! lol

good thing i didn’t see too many people or one of my good friends would have laughed at me

i guess i was having an ugly day LOL
cant be gorgeous all the time, have to swicth it up…lol cant look like pamela lee all the time now

you watch…pammy gonna change her clothes now…LOL..pammy WE ALL CAN SEEEE JOOOHHH!

Pammyliz…..I used to have an outfit like what your wearing………..then my daddy got a job! LMAO!!! just kidding ya girl….(i see you going to change them ugly a** pants and shirt!)…lol….

CA i was just fixing to go and do that, take these clothes off and burn them// vowing to never let this happen again…

LMAO at myself… oh my.. maybe its the cold weather…

reminds me of that old seinfeld episode where george shows up in sweatpants and jerry asks him why the sweats and george says why? and jerry says when you wear old stretchy sweats it shows this is a man whose given up on life..LOL i think about this whenever i wear sweats which is actually rare…

and i am an 80’s girl anyways… (stuck in a time warp)..

ok well so anyways Ng is a special. and nothing really new, I am going to the link now about NG troubles…

They do not have my sympathy, but my empathy of which there is a difference. I think what it is is that, I am truly a nice person and try to believe in the good of everyone. Unfortunately, I can’t hate them, I can’t diss them, and say bad things about them, because they must have gone crazy with what has happened…and with people coming at them, who knows what is the right thing to do or say.

we two peas in a pod pammy.. I wont change if you don’t…

oh yes, the truth will make one mad if they try to hide it!

chsah - Your turnin me on now….LMAO….droolin is sexy…no worries.. :0

i’m still a 3 piece ralph lauren suit, black stiletto’s & full make up, come on- we’re all in sweats

js…are you serious? You tramp! (jk)…

C~A said,in January 2nd, 2009 at 8:28 pm chsah - Your turnin me on now….LMAO….droolin is sexy…no worries.. :0

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!! ROFLMAO! My hubby hasn’t even looked at me twice since I got home from the dentist…..do you think he’s turned off???? LOL>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> jk!!!!!!!

chsah - I wasn’t rude was I! Thanks sweetie..

js - I’m just jelous if you really wearing that ralph luren suit…I was only pulling on your purse strings…doh…freudian slip…was just pullin your price tag…doh…mean pullin your tag..uhm…LEG!….

you guys are killin me here…chsah ~ I know your beatiful inside and out…hubby is just pre-occupied..has nothing to do with your leak!

pammy is feelin the visual….LMFAO….

chsah - after 40…thers nothing else to wear at home…i agree…thinks we have a whole of blood “sweat pants” and tears on this blog…lmao

be back in a few my girl just smeared snack pack pudding from ear to ear all over the place.

Hi Coolmoss! NG is a re-run. So was last night. Have you guys read that Dominic Casey is going to sue Hoover? I’ll find the link.

get this pammy - I just spent $250 on really nice clothes from fairweathers…not my usual for many years raisig kids my duds come from giant tiger…It was out of my character but the sale got the best of me…clothes really do make you feel good or bad or indifferent about yourself…I am on vacation and moving and have 5 kids running around…I am cleaning and doing the usual…I am still wearing my uglies..new clothes still have tags on them….but nice to have decent quality good feelin nice lookin clothes when I need them..last time I bought anything for myself that was worth any money was a new years eve dress in 2000 from Jacobs…so overdue !

oh js..you be one of us, I knew it..LMAO

C~A said,in January 2nd, 2009 at 8:36 pm you guys are killin me here…chsah ~ I know your beatiful inside and out…hubby is just pre-occupied..has nothing to do with your leak!

nice try…….but he’s watching a NG rerun for pete’s sake!!!!!!! LOL…….ME in my sweats (wiping my drool) or rerun of NG?????? lol…

and the only reason I was even in that kind of store is cause I took my 17 year shopping…so i need to thank her for puttin mommy into the groove again…it’s so easy being a mom to put yourself last….I had an opp. to get something nice for once…it was nice!

Sailor…..how about that apology to C~A? What u be wearing? We ARE TAKING A FEW moments off the chat to have some fun talk!

CA, I think you’re wunnaful!

Gotta go shower; then send emails to my 2 daughters who are worried about me. Been super depressed for some reason. No energy. Just “flat.” Must let them know mommy’s fine. BBL — or tomorrow a.m.

CHASH @ 8:20 p.m. Jan 2/09:

Nope, not American Idol ….. it would be Canadian Idol and I don’t think they would really want me singing there. :0

love2……prolly the after holiday blues! The holidays are great but can be overwhelming with all the “to do’s”. We’re here for ya! Thanks for chatting with me……I had fun! nite.

the honesty on this blog is one of the appeals, i could tell it was real people, not pretends

C~A…..did the kids finally spend all their money????? (you lil’ chauffer you!)

CHASH ….. Coolmoss passing a kleenex to CHASH so she can mop up her drool. Quick, you gals …. pass CHASH some more kleenex. lol

Kidding aside, I hate that feeling you get when the freezing starts to come out and you don’t feel yourself drooling right away. By the time you realize you are, you have a lake running down your chin. Yuck..

Js - exactly! No hidden agendas! Just normal honest loving peeps…that’s why we are still here, especially when there is no news…we can still converse and laugh and connect in caylees’ memory! That it how not we, but how caylee is making the world a better place…

CHSAH (r.i.p. caylee) said “and I’d be thinking I was rockin’ the stage! lol…..”\
OH ur the one i’d want to party with! but could we wear sweats!!

Me too, CHASH and on Idol I’d be wearing the stunning outfit that I have on tonight ….

a red multi-coloured, long sleeve sweatshirt, a sage green jacket-shirt, grey shorts, grey wool socks, and white Berkenstock sandals. I AM a vision of loveliness ….. he he he he Oh yes, I have one of my siamese cats curled up on top of me.

coolmoss….thanks my friend…..I couldn’t have put it in a more “appealing&#