Another in our weekly talk radio show The News In Review is now in the can. I spend a good deal of time working with the written media so the opportunity to hold an open vocal discussion is something I relish.
Our regular squad was a man down, Sean I hope that you make a full recovery. Sean Krause has become a very intrinsic part of our broadcasts, and he faces some tough times with his health. His web site TheDailyBS.com may well sink unless he gets a Laptop that he can use in hospital, and it likely will be a long stay. If you can help Sean, send a couple of bucks to him to help buy one.
What amazes me is the high number of people that care about the Caylee Anthony case. Our radio broadcast is done on a shoe-string, we have no pre-screeners for the calls, we have no clue what our callers are going to say, and we have no 10 second delay. This is radio as live as it gets.
So what did our listeners have to say? Oh they had lots to say. You can listen to the recording here.
Simon and Jan Barrett.
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a Trackbackwow… i’ve been following the Nancy Grace show for the last 6 months and had that tiny bit of hope she would be found alive. I think we all did.
Our hearts go out to the Anthony family and I hope they sentence the person that did this to a few lifetimes in prison or death penalty.
I think we all know who did it. I just hope she gets what she deserves. How could you kill a child and dump her like trash. How did she walk around wearing a button with Caylee’s pic for all this time?
IMO the family knows alot more than what they are saying.
And what happen to Jose saying that when we have finally spoken, everyone will sit back and say now i understand, that explains it?
And George and Cindy Anthony saying that the kidnappers are being watched and when asked if Caylee was alive, George says absolutely numerous times?
How can any of us understand taking a child’s life? And duct tape around the mouth of the little skull? SICK!!
Rest in peace Caylee Marie, you are a little angel in heaven with God, no one can harm you now!
Everytime I hear her little voice on the video of her singing it brings tears to my eyes but now her voice is silenced here on earth but she singing in Heaven with God as one of his angels.
I don’t care if it an accident or not they should convict Casey Anthony to the fullest extent for doing this to a child!!!!
Rest in peace Caylee Marie Anthony. You are now home and safe for all eternity!!!!
Ok I’m here..
It’s been a long time since I hoped I could believe it was an accident. Way too much points to this being something she thought of from time to time, and then, when the huge fight occured after she stole money from Grandpa’s nursing home fund, she was so furious she showed them she could control their happiness by killing that baby.
Casey is guilty as sin-she never even shed a tear for that little Angel!
How dare she do this and come up with such a rediculous story-I hope her family finally came back to reality, your daughter (sister) is a self centered witch and deserves to rot in jail!
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?
smithduke…hi and welcome…save the constitution for someone who is NOT obviously GUILTY!
Caylee is no longer here to have to deal with anyone who would harm her. It was heartbreaking to watch and think about. We all need to put Caylee to rest with the honor and respect she deserves in our own hearts and walk away from this story. The ‘high’ dollar lawyers have swarmed into this case because of all the publicity and will continue to milk this for all it’s worth. The more we feed into all the hatred and accusations…the more we listen to all the possiblities.. the excuses.. the more we are numbed to the fact that a little child was murdered in a horrible way. I am not interested in seeing the circus of a trial that will become nothing but a story that sells. I am not interested in hearing about all the mental issues we will hear about. The fact is, a child is dead and who ever did it should be punished on this earth to the fullest extent of the law.
BOZOS’ ah ha moment will only try to deviate away from maggots guilt of “why” she did it…in no way could he ever prove anyone else did it nor can he and I woulld love to see him try to explain away mags ovbious guilt…
Granny said : The fact is, a child is dead and who ever did it should be punished on this earth to the fullest extent of the law.
which is why I have been here for 5 months and will sit through every second of the trial to see that monster pay for what she did…
I’m not numbed to the fact after 5 months either, that a small child is murdered…i fell inlove with that beautiful child who’s last memories on earth I’m certain is the of the mommy she loved, duct taping her tiny head…I will never lose sight on why I am here..and never lose hope that casey will face what she has done…I would pay to watch her hang herself…CAYLEES’ MURDER IS WHY I AM HERE…
I have not lost sight that a small child was murdered, most likely by her mother. I am more worried the focus of Caylee’s murder will be dimmed by people trying to gain something from it after her death. As a mother/grandmother I can’t imagine how anyone could harm a child. I can only hope for justice…for Caylee and for every other child who is harmed by a ‘monster’.
smithduke at 8:39 pm You asked:
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?”
Don’t you worry. The state of Florida is protecting the person you are SO concerned about because it’s the law - innocent until proven guilty. That does not have to apply to our personal opinions based on what we’ve learned so far. We are entitled to our opinions and they are appropriately expressed here on this blog. Just like the murdering maggot monster will have her day in court in front of 12 jurors. We pray for justice for Caylee. I sure as heck hope you do, too.
smithduke at 8:39 pm You asked:
What happened to innocent until proven guilty?”
What Happened to protecting INNOCENT Children from maggots like Casey herself?
Casey had options. Instead, she decided to kill Caylee. Caylee WAS the ONLY INNOCENT person in this case.
how can they all live in the same house and her grandparents not know she not there for months i live with my daughter and i know if the kids are not there
It appears it will be virtually impossible to determine the cause of death but this still does not allow the possibility that Caylee was killed “by accident.” The computer searches for “neck-breaking,” “chloroform,” and “missing children” and the fact that Casey led investigators no nowhere land in the search for her missing child, coupled with her partying after the child was gone, are all indications that Casey had the intent in her mind all along to either kill the little girl -or at the very least- to sedate her in order to party without being hindered by a child. No matter how it went down, any intent to harm her daughter is all that is needed for a murder conviction.
Hi Everyone,
All I’m saying is that, although, we think/know who’s guilty, the person who murdered Caylee should be proven guilty in a court of law before we condemn him/her. I’ve seen enough Forensic Files to know that things may not be as they seem. If it were you and everyone thought you were completely guilty but weren’t, wouldn’t you want a fair trial? Casey may not be the best person in the world or the best mother but we should look at all the evidence before we convict her. That is exactly why we live in America.
Exactly, Marina, the possibility of accidental death pretty much went out the window when she didn’t call 911 EVER, and showed absolutely no remorse. Of course, “innocent until proven guilty” would sound better if they had ANY evidence on the innocent side that wasn’t made up by c that is. They should all be put in the same cell, and the one left alive in the morning is the guilty one.
Hi Smith, although I agree under the law that your premise is correct, would you let your blonde, Nicole look-a-like daughter date OJ? He is innocent of murder after all.
Ok….I can see that trying to be objective will not go well here. It seems you’re all convinced that Casey, sadly, killed her own daughter. Maybe somewhere in my heart of hearts I’d hoped that she could not do that to her own, beautiful child. It’s unfathomable to me, as a mother of my own 11 year old daughter, but I know it happens, far too often. Still, my belief is that, although we have a right to our own opinion, the only people who can condemn Casey, is a jury of her own peers. Sorry if I’ve upset everyone by giving my own opinion.
Just posted this on other blog.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28412924/
Nejeam offers reward to meter reader!
I can’t wait to hear Jose’s spin on all of this. THEN we’ll ALL UNDERSTAND - after he explains it all to us at the trial WHY Casey couldn’t talk or tell anything. People were threatening her - oh I remember. Yes, the SCRIPT they gave her to read in Blanchard Park. My God how SICK is this? I don’t think Jose’ B. counted on the body being found, ever. He probably manufactured those wild goose chases the Anthony’s were always running on. Good smoke screen, Jose’! Muddy the water Jose’! All it takes is ONE hold out, that can’t vote GUILTY! I think we will see many, many delays while the Defense manufactures a Plan “B”. Does this fantastic tale possibly sound like someone on drugs? How could she be out there, walking among us, being THIS SICK? And, a Father that’ was a cop? Mother a nurse? Nobody knew? Enablers? In DENIAL that they have a dangerous, mental patient for a daughter? Pacifying her … why? What sick secrets does that house hold?
smithduke,
your entitled to your opinion but this isn’t the blog that you will find one iota of sympathy for Momster! What’s objective about a mother killing her own child? Have you not heard of susan smith, andrea yates and the list can go on?????
You haven’t upset anyone and it’s obvious you have a big heart. But this is reality and real life where sick parents do harm their children.
She will get a right to a fair trial by jury, that’s more than she gave her own daughter!
Betty, probably more sick secrets than we who came to love little Caylee are going to want to know……unfortunately, I think in the end it’s ALLLLL coming out!
Everyone must be gone? Catch you all tomorrow!
this is the second child that i have been searching for on a year and a half. Both of whom were found dead. the people that harm inocent babies should be put to death the same way that they killed these children.
I only hope that we really do learn the whole truth about what happened and not spectulation.
racingcarrie, Many of us believe justice will be served. Will we ever know the whole truth?…….probably not. The only one who can tell the whole truth, is not speaking a word to Le or anyone who could have helped her. M will maintain her ‘innocence’ till the day she dies, just as Scott Peterson has done.
You must be new to the blog…..welcome.
Goodnite.
smithduke: here are some facts for you about mothers who kill their children.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/topic/86655/mental_institution.html?cat=38
On Wednesday, May 30, 2007, the Associated Press reported that 25 year old Gilberta Estrada, of Hudson Oaks, TX, had killed three of her daughters, aged 5, 3, and 2, and herself, by hanging. Her youngest daughter, 8 month old Evelyn, was still alive, despite being hanged in the closet with her sisters and mother, and was rescued by her aunt, Alejandra Estrada. Alejandra had broken into Gilberta’s mobile home looking for her, because she hadn’t shown up for work, and made the horrific discovery of the bodies of her sister and three nieces; she summoned medical help for Evelyn, and is now left to look at the empty back yard, still full of toys that will no longer be played with, and wonder why.
Gilberta Estrada is the sixth Texas mother since 2001 who has killed her children. In 2001, Andrea Yates killed her five children by drowning them in the bathtub. She was convicted of murder and sentenced to death, a popular sentence in Texas, but the verdict was later overturned on appeal, and is currently in a mental institution. At around the same time as the Yates family murder, Dee Etta Perez, also from Hudson Oaks, shot her three children, aged 4, 9, and 10, then shot herself. in 2003, Deanna Laney, in East Texas, killed two of her sons by beating them to death with rocks. She was tried and found not guilty by reason of insanity. That same year, Lisa Ann Diaz of Plano, Texas, drowned her daughters in their bathtub. Then in 2004, another Texas mother, Dena Schlosser, cut off the arms of her 10 month old daughter, who then bled to death.
I begrudge the 82c roast beef Chrissy dinner that Casey ate…little Caylee’s bones await the 2nd autopsy to be done by Baez and his sleaze-team!
Smithduke..we are not convicting the snivelling/whimpering/simpering/lying/cheating/thieving selfish Casey…we simply HATE HER!{just like we hate Drew Peterson..their actions cannot be tolerated!}
I would like to convict Baez, his inappropriate touching of Casey should be actionable…seems like he has got away with it.
Mornin all
smithduke said,
in December 28th, 2008 at 10:05 pm
Your two main points seem to be: “innocent until proven guilty” and “although we have a right to our own opinion, the only people who can condemn Casey, is a jury of her own peers.”
Well, duh. That’s the law and yep, we are aware of it. In addition we are not interfering with it.
So what in the world is your point? Are you saying that we should not discuss the case? We should not have opinions – or write in a blog - about what happened to Caylee and why or try to figure out some of the major players – grandparents, uncle – in Caylee’s life?
We should sit here like silent dummies reading about the case until AFTER the trial?
Are we allowed to talk about it then? Are we allowed to have a different opinion than the jury or not?
Sorry. Your point of view seems to mean we cannot discuss the case or draw conclusions (which do not affect anyone) based on what we’ve learned. I’m afraid that happens in Russia and China and other communist countries. Sorry. I don’t know how to behave in a communist regime that prohibits speech and thought. You must tell me – just don’t expect me to follow suit.
If someone took a poll of our bloggers today and m was to hang based on the results (guilty or not) then I’d agree that we should not be expressing our opinions here. But we do not have any affect on what will happen to her.
She has a right to a fair trial and she’s going to get it.
We have a right to discuss the case and draw conclusions based on what we know.
If you dispute the last sentence please tell me why.
Theres two new articles running..now and some real neat ppl on the other one
raccingCarrie…I like the name Carrie..its one of my faves…
SmithDuke….youve done nothng wrong..I too find it hard to believe woman like killr and susan smith and yates and even scott peterson culd harm there very own precious childrn…your opinion has not hurt anyone…we just feel so strongly here that she is guilty of this crime sometimes we see the monitor thru tears and its hard to see just what ppl are sayng….I know its hard to take in fully and chew on what she did to that beautiful child…
Jill I begrudge the fact that she gets running water and a toilet to plop her butt on to go potty…I think she shuld get a coffee can and toast and water for the remainder of her pathetic xistance in the pen…I agree with you that woman dont deserve roast beef let along a goll darnd poptart…
PAW69 I saw you….we are all very concernd bout joooh….glad to see you were here…
That be the new article there…Lees “advisors” web page is like bb’s phantom links that dont work
http://www.bloggernews.net/119190#comment-858200
Communist…
Mytwocents..yur great…
Mornin’ Pickles! Jooh r grate,2. Hi, PAW. Better now? Are we supposed to be on this article or the next one?
Yeah. I love it when people come on here and spout the “innocent until proven guilty” thing. Totally forgetting the freedom of speech thing, the freedom of information thing, the right to a public trial (which helps ensure fairness) and all the other rights that we have and that M has. They try to sound SO smart and yet don’t even seem to understand what a b-l-o-g is.
Yah…I know..always wuntn us to wunt whut they feel is the truth…grain of salt baby grain of salt…
No no to the new blog it dont matter…those ppl who were there were way earlier in the morning..
Smithduke said: I’ve seen enough Forensic Files to know that things may not be as they seem.
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I don’t think that casey’s actions starting at the very beginning not calling 911 and lying about her missing child TO EVERYONE WHO ASKED WHERE SHE WAS for 31 has anything to do with FORENSICS!
I also don’t think her partying and clubbing and shopping at target for beer and sports bras had anything to do with FORNENSICS either!
The fact she has never pleaded with the media or LE cause “SHE DOESNT’ TRUST THEM… JOKE) to bring her baby home safe and sound..NEVER CRIED OR BROKE DOWN WHEN TALKING ABOUT HER BABY…or the double talk and attitude she gives her family and best friend on the phone and the statement
“ALL THERE WORRIED ABOUT IS FINDING CAYLEE”..like a spoiled selfish little lying brat that she is…HAS ANYTHING TO DO WITH FORENSICS.
What about the four days Tim Miller spent in her house, for a total of about 12hrs in all, where he says maggot didn’t utter CAYLEES’ name NOT ONCE!
How she made brownies for her lawyer and made sure she was all dolled up for the camera everyday, swinging her hips like a cheap whore and flaunting the stolen white sunglasses and high fiving her brother after running through the media???
NONE OF THAT HAS TO DO WITH FORENSICS EITHER!
EVERYTHING ABOVE IS EXACTLY WHAT IT IS! WE SAW THESE AND OTHER THINGS SHE HAS DONE AND NOT DONE FOR THE LAST 5 MONTHS WITH OUR OWN EYES AND EARS…THAT SAYS SHE IS GUILTY. THESE ARE FACTS NOT IN NEED OF ANY FORENSIC TESTING.
SHE EXHIBITS NOT ONE OUNCE OF PAIN FEAR OR HEARTACHE AT THE LOSS OF HER CHILD! SHE SHOWS 0 REMORSE WHICH WILL IN THE END, SUPPORT A JURYS FINDINGS OF GUILTY AND PUNISHED TO THE FULL EXTENT OF THE LAW!
ALL HER ACTIONS, THE DEATH SMELL, THE HAIR IN THE TRUNK, THE STAIN…IS ENOUGH FOR ME TO SAY SHE IS GUILTY..IMO…NOW WE HAVE A BODY AND DUCT TAPE AROUND HER HEAD…NO ACCIDENT!
Correct me if I am wrong but do all these things make YOU believe for a second that she is innocent?
Shan is over there..im gettng her here…
Good morning C~A….
MORNIN PICKLY POO ~ MTC
Im gettng Minnie and Shan over here…
G’morning everyone..
ugh I think if I see C’s face today Imma get sick lol. I had a horrible dream about her last night and she smelt like sun screen and kept hugging me and crying… And I was yelling at her to go against m and stop disrespecting Caylee..
Oy I couldn’t even wake up from it.
C~A how yah doin this fine morning..?? GOt any toe issues we can discuss?
thanks picklessss…im here…
good morning friends..hope your all enjoying the holidays!!!!my fav time of year..
has any results been released yet?
Well smithduke seeing as this isn’t a court room we won’t be making that decision though we gladly would say she is guilty.
Her behavior and the CIRCUMSTANTIAL evidence is enough to convict her.
No hurt feelings just expressing ours that there is something wrong with maggot.
Shan, that’s not good - to be dreaming about it like that. Maybe you should take a break from the case for a few days for your own health. I recommend that for everyone now and then. This case is taking a toll on lots of people in different ways. We’re here to support each other and if you leave us for a few days, we’ll be waiting for you when you’re ready to come back, okay? If you are concerned about finding us again let us know and we’ll tell you a sure fire way to find us.
Pickles…how’d ya know, just pickin the gommes out from under my toe nails!
In case ya didn’t know thats canadain slang for toe jam!
Hey Shan…..I have had only one dream of Caylee and it was of her and killr in c and g’s livng room and killr knockd Caylee out with the chloriemix layd her on the couch walkd up to her and shot her in her head…then grabbed her by her right arm and righ leg and swung tossed her onto the entrance floor by the front door..and ughhh…the chloriemix in my dream numbed Caylees brains so the gunshot didnt kill her at first and she woke up and whisperd to killr “momma I see daddy” and killr freakd she said what..and Caylee whisprd I see daddy..and killr pickd her up and held her waitng for her to die…blehh..and Caylees little hand like slumpd down and she woke up again then I got there to help her dispose of the body..and I culdnt so I tool
Hey Shan…..I have had only one dream of Caylee
Hey, Minnie! No new news except that Nemjame (remember C & G’s former lawyer) may give the meter reader a $5,000 reward. SUpposedly that’s the amount Nejame earned from C & G for representing them.
Now I’m confused. I thought back then everyone swore no one was getting paid? So where did C & G get $5k for Nejame? And I’m not at all surprised that he’s trying to get rid of that blood money.
I do so wish I knew why he suddenly refused to represent them anymore. The two miserable idiots (C & G) must have let something slip!
hey MTC had a pretty wicked dream!
took Caylee to the minie mart next to the ant cave and the clerk lockd the door and we calld the cops..and killr was walkng outside the minie mart pacing and screaming for us to open the door….ooohh..it was a long time ago..but I remember it well….blehhhhh
CA - DId you have a dream too? EEK!
My posts are all screwd up…
more fuel for the fire…gosh darnd it…flabbergastng..
Naw Minnie no new news…not yet…
mytwocents - I really appreciate the concern I really don’t think about this case all the time because otherwise I would be going looney but when I go on here and talk is about the only time I do. Of course I will keep Caylee in my heart but I do have a family and life to care to as well.
I think my dream was a fluke weird one cuz I have THE weirdest dreams sometimes. I think it was because I watched something on her talking and then I went to bed lol.
But I do appreciate the concern
I thought that to MTC…remember the night the count was on NG and said she was making more money off caylee then he was cause he was gettin nothing…NG ripped him apart!
someone said count said too that some details that will come out will make us sick! He knows alot and had to have gotten that info from c and g ….ya know the ones who need immunity before their damn plane hits the ground the day the baby was found. Is it just me or there something fishy about the timing around that?
Ugh pickles that is very ugh I would take the C hugging weird dream over that any day!
MTC - nope, just remember yours!
Shan it was soo kreepy..but the only reason you dreamd bout it is cus of yur sub conciense…or whatever..is all..I havent had a dream since and that was a long time ago…I just dont think bout Caylee before bed or in bed no more..cus I have crazy dreams if I do not even necassarily about Caylee or her family but just weird dreams…
Hey thats cool that Nejames gave Kronk $5,000 dollars pretty much the $$ he made from c and g…good he didnt want the dirty money…GOOD FOR HIM….
Yeah Pickles I think the only other time I had a dream about the case was the night before they ID’ed the remains and I had a dream that they ID’ed them as hers.
Sad
But I too try not to think of this case especially at bed time…
well maybe Nemjame found his heart…how can people make money from this….can he testify againts ants if he wanted to or do lawyers just shutup even if they are no longer on the case?
oh no freddie krugger-cindy!!! dont go to sleep guys…
Shan, you know best for your own self. Some others of us have had to take breaks (and some should have and didn’t! Naughty ones!)
We don’t think about it and sometimes aren’t aware of it but there are many many ways that we are affected by this case. So we have to stay alert for that with ourselves and each other.
To Everyone! We have to stay strong for Caylee.
And it would be great to do positive things for her too. First being take care of our own health. Second possibly being go hug a kid - your own or someone else’s or even go “adopt” one for 80 cents a day (international childrens’ orgs) and there are plenty of kids on our country right now who need help. I don’t know how to help them, though. Just read an article about a tremendous rise in child abuse and neglect in recent months due to the economy (most experts blame the economy anyway). So volunteer, donate stuff, I don’t know. Gotta find ways to honor Caylee and help other children. To me that’s the best “medicine” for the misery this case causes me. (And whatever you do, DO NOT let C & G take credit for it. THey will if they can! Lousy lousy scumbuckets).
I had a feeling Nejames was too good of a guy to be in that mess with Bozo and the Ants! You know when he stepped down I took that as a bad sign of who the Ants really are and thats when I got suspicious of them the most.
Hey I have a msg to go out to somone..
BANANA if yew read the blog..come bak…
minnie - anything that C & G told Nejame while he was their lawyer has “attorney/client privilege.” So he cannot tell what they said - ever!
Minnie nejames wusnt a lawyer he was merely there “advisor” so I think he culd go to trial if subpeoned….hopefully..he said he quit being there advisor due to there lack of listening to him….and what good is an advisor if they dont listen…its cus michelle barf and kidlosers was callng the shots with the ants
The report I read is that Nejame is “going to” give Kronk the reward so I’m waiting for the “follow-thru” so to speak. LOL! We’ll see!
lol instead of claws she has the power to overwhelm you with sun screen smell. Cindy Krugger
thanks twocents..just went into my daughter and gave her a big squeeze hugg…love her soo much..she got alot for christmas so me and her tommorrow are gona sort out her clothes and toys and give them to a charity…
And now lee has an “advisor” also and his website like bb’s dont go no where…these ppl are up to no good….I think Caylee was a burden to them all financially and they all had there hand in her murder/cover up…I am serioulsy questioning the ants and lee now…I can just see them planning her murder for monitary gain..while she was alive and walkng round the house them 4 huddled round the dinner table conspiring and planning….
Yes, Smithduke, in this country, every person accused of a crime is innocent until proven guilty. That fact has never been questioned here.
Hey, even Jeffrey Dahmer was innocent until he wasn’t!
But, I think its only common sense that when someone lies to authorities and family about every single thing she has done, it might make you say “duh” about her innocence.
When someone actually escorts police to an office bldg, telling them she works there and all of a sudden, “whoops, I don’t work here”. DUH.
When someone’s child is missing for a month before she tells anyone… DUH
When someone says she drops a 2 year old off at an apt and doesn’t even go in with her… DUH
When someone says her friends kidnapped that child in a park and left her with a “script” to tell the police.. DUH
When someone tells her family she is working for 2 years and has no job.. DUH
When someone says the imaginary Nanny is rich, then changes it to “she babyat because she needed the money”.. DUH
Add to all the lies the way she has behaved since her child disappeared. In this case, actions really DO speak louder than words. Although she has many many words, but none were ever spoken to help find her child.
Innocent until proven guilty? YES. You could have a jury of Alzheimers patients and she should be found guilty. All I can say is thank God that Johnnie Cochran is dead or she might have a chance.
Pickles, even though Nejame and LV’s lawyer use the word “advisor” I think they are still considered their clients’ lawyers. It’s just using words to “play down” the idea that they “lawyered up.” They are still lawyers who are advising their clients. That is what lawyers do. I don’t think the terminology will exempt them from attorney client privilege.
Pickles, even though Nejame and LV’s lawyer use the word “advisor” I think they are still considered their clients’ lawyers. It’s just using words to “play down” the idea that they “lawyered up.” They are still lawyers who are advising their clients. That is what lawyers do. I don’t think the terminology will exempt them from attorney client privilege.
Minnie me to going thru the kid’s toys and clothes and givng em away to the kids who need em…yappers..
My son and I woke up this morning and I made him banana pancakes and we cuddled on the couch watching one of his fav. shows.
Now he is pretending in his little fake mug that he is having coffee lol..
Yah if they are his clients then its confidential…
Morning Elaine!!
Yur son is sooo sweet Shan…gosh thats adorableee….
Elaine, great post. But I am worried about Bobo’s new buddy, “Barbie” (Linda Kenney-Baden). She is a very very sharp lawyer and could upset the apple cart somehow I’m afraid. Plus there are a bunch of good forensic type experts lined up on her side. M has very good representation - with the exception of stupid gourd head BB.
Well whatever Nejame knows we will end up finding out because LE will get it out of them or the truth will be discovered through evidence.
I agree killr has a dream team crak defense on her side..but what she dont have is the fact that she dont realize what the rest of us realize she is guilty and her team of pro’s arent going to set her free…I am going to be sweatng bullets and biting my nails the day the jusy comes bak with the verdict…we all know what the out come is going to be..but its hard to see it cus of her defense team….she aint gettng away with it..she gettng life in prison
oh god i wuldnt make a good lawyer..id be telling everything…
who is paying all these lawyers…and why do they feel the need for them???
LOCK THE ANTS UP…im just sick of them and im sure their future money plans,feeding of little caylee…hate them….
Ugh Barbie I read her book on Anna Nicole and somehow I can see her knowing to turn this story into a book.
minnie, that’s a great idea! Your little girl will learn the joy of giving. Sometimes hard to teach young ones that but when they “get it” it’s a beautiful sight to see!
My parents were worried that I’d grow up to be selfish because I was an only child (they assumed that siblings learned to share - bollocks - some do and some don’t).
Anyway, they really really impressed upon me the need to be generous - until one day my mom saw all my friends walking out of the house with about every toy and doll I owned. Oops. Overdid it there a bit, mom. LOL!
Did anyone read that theres an anonymous donor paying for M’s defense? I read that yesterday I think…lemme see if I can find it.
Minnie they are gonna get payd off of book and movie deals…
This is all I found on it but its not providing links to real facts hmm..
http://www.gather.com/viewArticle.jsp?articleId=281474977540376&nav=Namespace
I am very confused about the money angle on this. I read that if BB loses (M is found guilty) then he cannot write about the case. But if she’s found innocent he can. (I would expect that would apply to everyone on her defense team. I don’t know).
So how are all those people going to make money? Talk shows? High profile advertising so they get to represent the next bloody murderer?
Yuck.
Lilred said,
in December 29th, 2008 at 9:10 am
Hi my friends!
Pickles.. maybe its us red heads.. we cry alot!!!LOL
GOMES.. If my friends want to hear about my toe fuzz, or belly button lint…then we will talk about it.. This is FAMILY.. OBVIOUSLY NOT WHAT YOU ARE LOOKING FOR.. THANK YOU!!!!!..
Hey Lilred….butt fuzz..
Yah but bb can do interviews with news stations and whoever after the case if he loses and he can get paid im sure..
thats funny twocents..there is just me and my daughter..she knows that i have to work hard to keep us..it is realy paying off cause she works real hard at school…
pickles..book deals…movie deals…next someone will be giving them bloody hollywood stars…sick ….
Has anyone wondered if maybe Casey’s mysterious 2nd phone was really Lee’s phone?
I felt the reason she called Lee and was so sure he had Tony’s number was because she knew he had her phone (the one that she claimed to have LOST at Blanchard Park????) and if he had her phone, she knew it had Tony’s number in it, so she needed to speak to Lee to get it.
Lee is the key.
Did anyone find out why Lee listed his parent’s address as his home address when he doesn’t really live there?
Casey said her only mistake was leaving Caylee with someone she trusted, someone she thought would never do something like this.
(Could that really be Lee?)
Cindy has said all along that Casey was talking in code, as if she was giving clues, but the investigators just weren’t getting them.
Lee said in a sworn testimony in the courtroom that he had pleaded with Cindy to NOT call the police when she told him that Casey could not tell her where Caylee was. Lee was trying to AVOID THE REPORTING OF THE DISAPPEARANCE TOO.
Lee also stated that before the police arrived at the Anthony residence on July 15, Casey told Cindy she knew where Caylee was and would take her to her in the morning, but Cindy wouldn’t accept that. THEN, LEE got Casey ALONE for a short period of time and she emerged from the room with a new story, which was that she didn’t know where she was and that she hadn’t seen her in 31 days.
Wow. First, she knew where she was and would take Cindy to her in the morning, but THEN, after Lee got in there alone with her, suddenly she hadn’t seen her and began to weave a web of lies?
I wonder who will play killr if they make a movie…Amy Winehouse…
Sorry I am having random thoughts coming at me that I have to get out lol..
LOL @ Pickles Amy Winehouse she might be too classy for m even…haha
oh yes..i dont normaly butt in when people say nasty things in here but…
GOMES…how dare you tell people here not to say hi..evveryone who comes here loves caylee very much,yes sometimes we fight,talk about our family,even what we cook for dinner….
BUT we are all here TOGTHER for caylee..so go pick your toe nails if you dont like it….
I think we need to come up with a new name for Linda Baeden-Kenney! She’s an old hag barbie wanna be with her fake blonde hair.
Sindy Kruger is a good one for bm! SK
ol’hag or just HAG fits nicely!
I don’t care who is on her “dream team”. OJ got off because his slick lawyer, Cochran, made that case into a race issue, not a murder issue. If that trial was conducted purely as a double murder case, he would have been convicted. I think everyone knows that.
None of those components are in this case. When a jury hears the evidence piled up against this woman and they see the pictures of Caylee and the autopsy pics and listen to the interview tapes with all their gobbly-gook lies, she will be found guilty.
I’m still trying to figure out why the “dream team” is even on this case. As I understand it, if she is found guilty, they can’t write about any of it. Who knows, maybe just the publicity of being on the team will garner them enough money and more bookings.
One thing I am still questioning is how Linda Kenney Barden can be on this team. Her husband is being interviewed (on all news shows) as forensic expert and is helping the case against Casey. How is this not a conflict of interest? Must be a really fine line here. Imagine their “pillow talk”?
Oh snap Shan…..
sorry about that all…i had to say that..im good now..
ahh amy wino is sure too classy to be m…
Was it lee who told c not to call the cops….really lee said dont call the cops…
Is all good Minnie..is been going round and round fur days now…
Also.. not sure if most of you saw the link I posted on Simon’s blog.
Click this link and scroll to find an article on Thomas Luka’s “arrest”.
http://victimsoflaw.net/FL_News&Views.htm
Is there a rule about how many rings a circus must have?
I think Barbie is ultimately gonna wanna write a book like she did with the Anna Nicole case. Who knows.
I didnt know it was lee who said not to call the cops….you know Shan when you put it all the way you did bout lee….it makes me think of other stuff…but then I think of her actions after Caylees murder…..her partyng her druggng her drinkng….she was happy to not have Caylee and she showd it to the whole world…
Shan thats a good pic of yew is that yur boy?
Yeah thats what I read Lee told them not to call the cops because he was sure he could get the truth out of m. Then told them no poly no dna…. what a D bag.
yup
that is Vinny
I wuld love to simply believe she is coverng for her creepy brothr..but her life after Caylee says more to me than that…she was happy to not have Caylee anymore..and she drove that car with the body in it for 2.6 days….I truelly believe that she is the one who killd Caylee and the others are coverng it up..they all have there hand in the Caylee gravy train now..and lee being an accountant…really is not sittng right with me…but as for her coverng for him…I dont know….cus she really seemed to like not havng a child after the murder..
I just dont kno..I think the no poly was cus they cleand that car and they are accecories to a murder now or obsturcting justice and destroyng evidence and lee knew it …he knew they cleand the blood and juice and organ liquid from the car..
Yeah I still believe M did it but I do think she had some help to cover it up through her family and I think Lee was the ring leader of cover ups.
But now if Caylee is a product of there union..then I culd really think he is involvd..but…I just dont know…she searchd the pc in March and May..and already had the nanny story in her mind as what happend to Caylee…and she had spoke of the nanny for 2yrs prior to this so she had to seem as tho she trustd her…Unless lee was the nanny..
Yah…I wundr why he never movd Caylee..I mean from Chicksaw trails…when she gave him the code talk..was he afraid did he go there and it was coverd in water…cus Caylee remaind there…
I don’t get how c and g can go along with the nanny theory because they said Caylee was with them 90% of the time..
Also G saying the body in the back of the trunk not being his grand daughter is eerie
He was probably too scared or stupid to move her.
pickles…I remember lee saying why don’t you just tell us where caylee is and not involve the cops! He said, what do you think they are gonna do when they get here? They are make you take them to where caylee is!
i realy belevie m planned this out,it was no accident….their all guilty..but that lee i feel is really involved…and why didnt the ants look around that area were caylee was dumped like if i was c id be hunting high and low for that baby…
minnie ~ exactly - c doesn’t use her head …only runs her yap! She never wanted the baby found that is why she went on such a bullshit rampage about only talking to people who were looking for a “LIVE” caylee.
She knew baby was dead… they would never find the baby if they only looked for her as alive! Then m could have her trial without a body and be aquitted! She would at least still have maggott…she would take her back even knowing in her heart that what she did to the baby! Or she would have looked in the woods, given the smell of the car she knew caylee wasn’t walking and talking…she’s a lying phony covering biotch
Elaine, I’m afraid the “fine line” is that Baden is supposed to be an “objective” expert for the news shows. He has not been hired by either the defense or the state (right?)
If he was working for the defense like that mush mouth Kobilinksy it would be fine. But if he was working for the state I don’t think he could go on TV - and I do think it would be a conflict of interest with his wife on the defense team.
So the loophole is that he’s not on either side (supposedly) and will not have access to the actual evidence (I hope)
and also c-a…this might sound bad but if c did go out and find caylee were her maggott left her,she would cover that up also…all the ants have done is protect monster…they have let caylee down all her short life,they all knew what a monster they raised and still they done nothing to protect that little angel…caylee was missing for over a month and that is normal for a grandmother not to worry,or call police…im cryin just think this..
its all about the publicity with these lawyers..they dont seem to care about innocent children killed by their own mothers..its all about the big money and getting their faces on primetime tv…makes me puke..
whered yousss all go??? im all alone thers no one here beside meeee….
im just think how lonely m is..all alone ahhhhhhhh just her and the nightmares she must be having of what she has done…sleep well maggott….
minnie, I’m afraid the only nightmares M would be having (if she’s capable of having any) would center on herself, her future. She cared nothing for Caylee. Never will. We’ve never seen an ounce of honest caring from her about that child. It’s always been about herself!
“If they don’t find her then guess who goes to jail?” She said to Tony (in a text on on the phone the night before she was arrested). Nothing about “where oh were is my poor baby?”
Never heard anything like that from her. Her only concern is for herself.
twocents,i guess im hoping that somewhere m has some sort of human feelings,its real hard to think that someone is capable of such torture to a little girl.
What did m really think was going to happen? that if caylee was never found that was game over,she had won her fight for freedom,all the clubbing she could do…
Yes,she only cared and still does for herself.
Smithduke said the following:
(1) “What happened to innocent until proven guilty?”
(2) “We should look at all the evidence before we convict her. That is exactly why we live in America.”
(3) “Still, my belief is that, although we have a right to our own opinion, the only people who can condemn Casey, is a jury of her own peers.”
Yes, you are right… the only people who can condemn or convict Casey is a jury of her own peers, IN A COURT OF LAW. We on this blog can not convict her by our thoughts or words. However, this is America not a communist country… we are blessed with the freedom of speech and that is all we are doing on this blog. We are expressing and sharing our most inner thoughts, which does nothing to confirm or deny Casey’s guilt. Casey constitutional right will be upheld in a court of law and she will get a fair trial.
If by some remote chance Casey is acquitted by a jury of her peers in a court of law, just as OJ was, she will go free and nothing voiced in this blog will change that. Casey will get her fair trial and the public will live with the jury’s decision, regardless of the outcome. Our American judicial system set OJ free in his murder trial and nothing that was ever written about him mattered. So, what’s your beef?
Just remember that it’s a normal part of life for people to use their brain and have thoughts and to be able to express them openly is what America is all about. It is abnormal for someone to try and stifle someone’s thoughts and their right to express them but is that what you are suggesting in your comment?
I believe that Casey is guilty of premeditated murder of her daughter!
Please read what Mytwocents wrote in today’s 8:22 am post. She answered your questions so eloquently.
g said the body in the trunk wasnt his grand daughter well evidence has provd other wise
I think that if she was havng nightmares that it would not only be about herself but the act of the murder also…cus she can try and forget all she wants but her sub conciense is a totally different system in her mind and it can bring up the murder in her sleep…her dreams..I hope she truamatized and scarred her sub concience for life…
hi therapist….im tired of all the innocent until guilty also….WHAT ABOUT THE INNOCENT?
where was caylee rights….are we all supposed to keep our voices quiet? Well i for one am here for caylee,she is gone,her life snatched away and i will say stand and say that it was by the hands of the very person who should be protecting her..CASEY ANTHONY…
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE..
I believe she did kill Caylee, but I’m not totally convinced it was intentional. I believe some of her guy friends know the entire story and are too scared to say anything because it would put their butt on the line. I believe she has some serious issues (Social Personality Disorder). I believe Cindy was told some of what happened just moments before the cops showed up after 1st 911 call. I think Cindy told Lee what was up and I don’t think George was in the loop. I think George knows (in his heart), but it is obvious Cindy wears the pants. My theory is she was use to knocking Caylee out using Xanax and kept her in her car while she would go out and party.. then tried some other substance when she couldn’t get her hands on some. That other substance killed Caylee and she panicked. Just webs of lies.
Any word when trial will start?
Therapist!! Hello how are you??
Jan 5th..unless bb is going to get an xtension…
I was just wondering what all the bb’s and c and g and all that was? who are they? i love reading this stuff but get lost sometimes
Nope.. it’s not until March…
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct=us/0-0&fp=49581eb0070dbe74&ei=L_5YSeXQIIuQmAe14cmUAg&url=http%3A//www.baltimoresun.com/news/nation/bal-trial1211%2C0%2C624197.story&cid=1277525095&usg=AFQjCNH5WsrUfSpaMU_1BLY785zHC2sLzw
oh i thought that he already had…with finding caylee he probly will try and delay..
see if he can find someone else to pin it on…
feel for that guy who found caylee..god bless him..his life changed forever when he found that baby…
Hi Minnie…BRAVO for you! “JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE” Keep shouting that loud and clear. You have every right to be Caylee’s voice… so does everyone else.
I just shake when I read something like what Smithduke wrote… it doesn’t even make sense. Casey will get her fair trial and I hope they burn her. I wish people like Smithduke would stand up for the victim as much as they worry about the person charged with murder. It makes me wonder what happened in those people’s lives that they assume someone will not get a fair trial, this is America… she will get her fair trial!
Most importantly…JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!
Casey is no different than the santa killer in california. pre-meditated, planned out killing.
Give her the chair , oh yeah, and hand out some jail time to Cindy (mastermind of diversion tactics) George(wimpy yes honey-accessory), Lee (involved some way) and Jose “BS” Baez (defense attorney with a tude).
This lot is more dysfunctional than the Munsters.
Hi Pickles! Now that I got to vent about what Smithduke wrote… I feel better. The smoke has subsided that was coming out my ears. LOL
Yes Mrrealist way more dysfunctional……
mrrealist said,”Casey is no different than the santa killer in california. pre-meditated, planned out killing.
Give her the chair , oh yeah, and hand out some jail time to Cindy (mastermind of diversion tactics) George(wimpy yes honey-accessory), Lee (involved some way) and Jose “BS” Baez (defense attorney with a tude)”
BRAVO to your post… I agree!
warden to answer your question:
BB = Baez
C = Cindy
G = George
Thank you apreciate it!
thanks monday morning therapist! been folowing this case since minute one and appears to be a no brainer.
one question I need to get answered ” who is Caylee’s father/other (normal) grandparents ?”
otherwise I dont believe anything coming out of the Baez/Anthony camp unless they are hooked up to a lie detector when they are speaking.
Pickles - Its close, the munsters had grandpa and the pet under the stairwell!!LOL
lol therapist,i dont often get mad,it just really bugs me with the innocent until talk..
Everyone around the world knows that America has a fair justice system,m would have been read her rights,given shelter and food…
caylee was dumped in a bag,left for wild animals..caylee is the only innocent in all this circus…
hi warden,
sorry i meant to get back to you..i also have alot of other names for them but i might get put outa here if i type them..lol…
I’m going to say this.
Instead of worrying about Casey “innocent until proven guilty”, Remember Caylee WAS the ONLY one INNOCENT in this whole case. AND!!! She NEVER got a chance in life because Casey CHOSE Caylee’s fate for her. Casey had NO RIGHT to take Caylee’s life. Casey is NOT GOD.
Exactly the only innocent one in this case is Caylee
good morning everyone… getting some much needed r & r and house in order…
what is new today?
“shoots rubber band at pickles”…
just can’t believe it was intentional.. someone please tell me how they can charge her with 1st degree with no intent - no motive. Besides her behavior and lies which indicate psychological issues, what proof is there?
She never wanted Caylee. Cindy forced her to keep Caylee.
Prove that!
She wanted an abortion, Cindy said no, She wanted to give her up for adoption to Kiomarie, a friend of hers, Cindy told her no.
hi pammyliz…hi paw…
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE…
hi highcell.. so what is your take on what happened? who killed that baby and tied her up in a bag??? whom do you think did this, cause for certain we know this, so I am curious to your thoughts?
I used to think that Casey and Lee were talking in code, but I from what we now know of Casey’s intelligence level, I now think they were attempting to talk in code.
If it was a real code, it would not sound like a code. I think Lee knew immediately what his sis did, knew they were being recorded, and did everything he could not to blatently have her convict herself through their convo. She knew what she did, so she went along with it. Probably the way they used to speak in front of their parents and friends when they wanted to keep things “private”.
I also think Lee was thinking of the play house and backyard when he spoke about “close to home”. If he looked anywhere, it was there.
The other possibility is that he as already in on this. I used to think George was in on it to and still have suspiciouns about that, but it could have been just Casey and Lee. He knew Caylee was in the backyard, convinced Casey to transfer (maybe even helped? put on a second bag?) to the trunk (which is what really ramped up the trunk smell), gave Casey some ideas where to put the body, but never knew exactly what happened from that point. That is why he keeps probing for “close to home”, he is comparing that to the pre-discussed disposal sites.
All of this is just my theories, but if I from the limited data provided by the media can piece together stories that seem to stick together like this, you know LE has a lot more, so Lee really does need that attorney.
But why must every attorney the Ants deal with be so shady?
further.. do you think zaneida killed caylee and put her in the bag? if so, LE proved there was no such a person, so that disputes that person killing caylee.. who else hada motive? reason? and, lets not forget mothers are responsible for their children, and since she had her last and now has no idea of what happened to her? then whom did this?
hey minnie, paw, spacely anyone else here, highcell????
good post spacely…
Highcell, I am wondering what you believe could not be intentional?
The killing of the little girl? Chloroform, research before the event, and celebrations after the event do seem to indicate the act was intentional and the results those that were desired.
Hiding of the body? Duct tape, trash bags, and multiple pieces of evidence tying the discovery scene back the Ant house seem again to prove the body was intentionally hid, even if the death itself was an accident.
Covering for yourself at the expense of every family member and friend you ever had? She seems pretty intent of framing anyone other than herself, and all of her lies were intentional as she told police in the first interview, even though she denied having any reason to lie.
there is no doubt in my mind she killed Caylee, but I can’t reason with her doing it intentionally. The question is WHY? I’m hoping someone here can explain a motive or proof it was intentional.
Highcell…..the proof is a little girl,tape around her mouth,dumped like trash…then mummy goes for a month of partying….yeah that sounds like an accident…oh and sure my child goes missing but will i report it nope
sure il have mental problems..thatly cover it..
now…whats your take oh things????
ok thanks highcell.. well, so your saying you know she did it, so you think it was ana accident then by what means?
ok thanks highcell.. well, so your saying you know she did it, so you think it was ana accident then by what means?
Why? Because she didn’t want Caylee and she didn’t want Cindy to have Caylee either. Cindy was going to file for custody of Caylee. Due to all the hatred between the 2 of them. Casey was forced to keep Caylee and when Cindy wanted custody, Casey basically said “like hell” and killed her so no one could have her.
To SmithDuke (if he/she ever returns): My name is not Blind Lady Justice, it’s Public Opinion in General. IF I were one of the jurors, then I’d go along with the “innocent until proven guilty” mentality. Fortunately, I am not and can freely use my 6 senses to come to a logical conclusion on who the likely murderer is. But worry not!!! The trash’s civil rights are clearly being protected by the right agencies. She’s not in general population, she showers, sh*ts, and shaves on a regular basis, and she has a lovable hugging lawyer who will swing at whoever mistreats her. My conscience is clear. (Still, all I could hope for is 12 good men and a rope. But like I said, my name is NOT Blind Lady Justice.)
Spacely,
Even you left the room for it not being intentional in your last message. For her to be charged with 1st degree, they’ll have to prove her death was intentional. It’s a big possibility she researched chloroform before she died as a way of covering her tracks. And yes! I do wish Casey is punished for this at the highest extent of the law. I’m just having a hard time saying it wasn’t an accident. Killing the little girl was intentional.
Highcell, her motive was jealosy of the Caylee. Her friends have all made statements of bad feeling between Cindy and Casey almost all in the last couple of years centered around the love Caylee felt for Cindy, perhaps even seeing her as Mom as she sometime called her in front of Casey. Her former boyfriend (who she attempted to deceive into believing was Caylee’s father, but who accepted Caylee as his own even knowing there was no possibility) has also stated in multiple TV interviews that Casey broke up with him because she felt he loved Caylee more than her. Her most recent bf told her he really only wanted boys and made it clear he was unhappy hanging out with a kid…as did the deputy sherrif she was also sleeping with….and there were several parties she had to turn down due to watching Caylee. So, jealousy and a desire for “freedom” are the motive - at least that will be what the prosecution goes for and it looks like they will have a compelling case.
Spacely, that is speculation. Where’s the proof?
highcell ~ duct tape for one thing! Shows intent ~ what was the motive ~ self centered jelousy!
They charged her with first degree and got the idictment really quickly! G’s testimony to the smell in her car…the stain, the hair showing death band, the searches lookin up neck breakin and chloroform show intent as well espeicially if toxi tests come back with chloform.
there is so much that we don’t even know about and I am sure it was VERY legal to charge her with murder one!
ok i see what your saying your having a hard time with the pre-meditation, but, what does it matter killing the child is killing the child.. pre med, accident by choloform, its all punishable by either death or life sentence, so we agree she is guilty of taking caylees life,
highcell..maybe you could answer pammy@12.46
if you think it was an accident then by what means?
Her texts and chats online show she didn’t care for Caylee she wanted out of the house and was held down by Caylee.
Read those and you can prove a motive.
Plus circumstantial evidence I will say again will be enough to convict her.
Highcell, although I did leave room for the death itself being an accident, I think all of the later evidence of hiding the death, lying to the police, stealing from everyone, refusing to cooperate with LE, and her seeming lack of grief over the first abduction, then death of her child will all lead the jury to believe this was an intentional death. It will be up to the defense to try to explain away all of the circumstancial evidence as they will also not be able to prove it was an accident.
The reasonable doubt test is not a magic bullet for defense nor an order to the jury to check their brains at the door. Many, many people have been convicted of first degree murder in similar cases, even when the body was never found - which would make you think it impossible to establish the cause of death.
highcell..what is speculation? The recorded interviews of both jesse and mags own voice clearly not worried about her daughter and obviously pissed that everyone is only worried about finding caylee, and how jesse said that mags broke up with him cause he loved caylee more then her….theres two ‘STATEMENTS” right there that we know about that show motive.
if she got manslaughter would you think thats just?
In a nutshell, when a death is accidental you feel BAD, not Bella Vita.
Highcell - There are people who will testify to all that Spacely wrote about. The jury will believe them (I hope) as do most of us. That’s the proof PLUS M’s own behavior WHILE her child was “missing” (partying to put it politely) and proven LIES afterward. That’s MOTIVE - Caylee was in the way.
Highcell, I know it’s hard to fathom all of this. It’s hard for all of us. But there comes a point when you have no other choice but to come to the reality that there are mother’s who do this to their children. Some mothers don’t even have a reason, they just do it. It’s sad and sometimes WE as society can only do so much in hopes that this can be stopped. But when you have someone like Cindy that forces someone like Casey to make decisions they don’t want to. This is the outcome. I hope this is understandable without having to go into full detail.
there was NO accident….DUCT TAPE PEOPLE DUCT TAPE…WRAPPED NICE AND TIGHT AROUND HER HEAD SO SHE COULDN’T GET IT OFF!!!
IT WAS NOT PUT THERE POST ‘ACCIDENT”…THAT’S A JOKE. IT DOES NOT FIT INTO THE BIG PICTURE OF ALL HER SEARCHES NOR DOES IT FIT WITH HER DEMEANOR…SHE WOULD BE HEART SICK IF SHE DIDN’T PLAN IT! SHE WOULD HAVE A BREAKDOWN AND PLEAD TO THE PUBLIC NOT DO WHAT SHE HAS BEEN WHICH IS COVERING HER OWN ASS AND LYING NON STOP.
Spacely, I read and listened to those interviews and text messages and even phone numbers. And if you google some of those phone numbers, you’ll see more sites dedicated to minute by minute logs of what Casey was doing and where and when she was doing it since Caylee was last seen alive. WOW! It has really showed how disturbed she truly is and how far technology has come. Everyone knows Casey is disturbed..that’s not the question. I’m asking for hard proof evidence that she killed the girl without speculation.
Highcell,
The proof is the hundreds and hundreds of text messages, the dozens of documented statements from friends and family, the many e-mails submitted to LE by family and friends, and the TV interviews of the former bfs. All of this is evidence and almost all of it is admissable.
At this point, her jealousy of Caylee is a documented fact because multiple sources independently state the same stories. That is proof under the law.
However, it is the evidence found with the body like the duct tape and items from the home that will lend weight with the jury to all of these statements as each piece continues to connect back to Casey.
hmm… you bring up good points to debate highcell.. i will let the others answer cuase there better at it… i agree wholeheartedy about the way they tracked this woman, it taught me one thing, we never are private all of our texts, emails phone records, pings can be tracked, basically we’re all being watched lol
but, you must have a theory of how you think she did kill the child then?
Any parent who gives there child Chloroform, Xanax,Chemicals, or any other meds not prescribed, or for use to heal a child from sickness, and duct tapes their mouth/skull and a child dies from it is pre-meditation. duct tape around mouth/skull found in a trash bag is bad enough on it’s own.
Speculation is a lot different than circumstantial evidence, which there is in overwhelming quantity. Even bigger is the lack of evidence that she didn’t do it.
THEY HAVE FOUND EVIDENCE AT THE SCENE WHERE BABY WAS DUMPED THAT LED LE TO GO BACK WITH YET ANOTHER WARRANT, SAYING ITEMS FOUND DIRECTLY LINKED BACK TO THE ANTS HOUSE.
SO YOU TAKE YOUR PICK ON WHICH ANT YOU THINK DID IT IF YOUR STILL NOT CONVINCED IT WAS MAGGOTT!
from what we all now we’re hearing the prosecution has more than even what has come out, based on all that has come out, it would be clear to me that she did this. whether pre med or not she did this, i based alot on the initial interrogation and then the trunk evidence and nwo the finding of the body and the condition, and the fact LE disproved every word she said. in the interrogation she practically convicted herself….
one would think tho had it been death by an accidental death of over drugging, she would have cracked by now, the fact that she has since stuck to the story tells me alot…
I have a question, is the Zanax only brought up because Zanny the Nanny, or did someone testify that M did give Caylee Zanax to knock her out? Or is that just a theory here? I am confused on that, I read it on this blg all the time but never heard it anywhere else.
i agree c-a…that baby had tape around her mouth to stop her crying,screaming that itself is not the actions of an accidental death…
highcell @ 12:59pm What do you mean by “hard proof evidence without that she killed the girl without speculation.”
“Hard proof” - would that be like YOU saw it? Would that do it for you? Or maybe a video of HER doing it? Or would you think Hollywood doctored up a look-alike?
What’s “speculation?” As many of the above posts pointed out, there is little “speculation” about texts, emails, and statements.
Let me turn it around and ask what it would take to convince you that (1) M killed Caylee and (2) did it intentionally?
If there were duct tape over her mouth and she was crying, how would she breathe?
one would think tho had it been death by an accidental death of over drugging, she would have cracked by now,
That’s right Pammy ~ she wouldn’t arrogantly sit in that cell and take a murder one conviction if it was an accident, she would have taken the immunity deal and come clean if it was an accident. BB would have told her she might get 10-15 years if it were an accident, so why would she take a murder one rap of life and maybe even the death penalty? Does not make sense. But she won’t budge cause she will never admit she killed her in any way shape or form.
She knows she is so far up her own as@ that she can’t even make up a believable accident story at this point.
Mindy, I believe that Casey was known to buy Xanex from Annie, who I believe lived in the sawgrass apartments where she supposedly left Caylee.
It is actually a theory, but there is some justification for that theory, as there are mothers who do such and she did have access to the drug.
Zanny the nanny is a term used for a parent (usually the mother) who uses Xanax to put their kids to sleep so they can do as they wish. Due to this, it is speculated that when Casey says Zanny, she is referring to Xanax. But when a lady by the name of Zenaida was looking for an apartment at Saw Grass apartments where Casey’s friend lives, That gave Casey a perfect name to go with her story of Zanny the Nanny. IMO
For someone as devoid of emotion as M is - except about herself (shown, proven, psychologists have seen this in her) - what would killing Caylee UNintentionally mean?
To me it would mean - as an example - that M drugged her, gagged her, left her in a hot car, came back, found her dead and said “G-dammit, Caylee, look what you’ve done now.”
I don’t remember Xanax being confirmed, but c is a nurse and many women in that age group keep it available. It would take M 2 seconds to get ahold of it.
highcell, pull your head out of the sand.
Why would Casey run around the Caylee in the trunk of her car if someone else did it? Why did she not call police? Why did she lie? The list goes on and on and there are other people here with more time than I.
you talk about the text messages and all that where did you find those at? just curious
People naturally panic during an accident. This was NO accident.
She did it, she covered it up, she tried to pretend it never happened. She is completely detached from little Caylee.
CA - Regarding your 1:10 post.
I think there may be a big difference in the defense between what they tried to pull before the body was found and after it was found.
However, the state probably isn’t going to offer any deals now.
Before BB may have been counting on persuading the jury that Caylee was kidnapped (reasonable doubt). Now? I don’t know that M claiming it was an accident will help. I don’t even care anymore after finding out so much about M.
An “accident” to me would still me homicidal negligence. In other words, she really didn’t care.
And also what you wrote about what BB may have advised her is a bit in question - since now we question BB’s motives in representing her!
She missed every chance she had thanks to him.
I don’t think there is anything they can do now. Except try to blame the death on someone else?
Also the description she FINALLY gave of Zanny the Nanny, is that of the Zenaida who is suing her. Which is also the same one she claims isn’t her. Seems kinda odd to me. Either way, Casey killed her, and the prosecution has more than enough evidence to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
Unintentional death of caylee:
leaving in hot car while going into bar (most women run into store).. M - bar
leaving ladder by pool
electrocution by wall socket
falling down stairs
hitting by vehicle or car
swallowing drano
these are types of deaths that are accidental…
i doubt any of us has a btch of chloroform under our sinks that a child can get into…
a mix of this in the trunk ( that shouldnt be there)…and the fact child cannot be found, later found dead..well nothing points to accidnetal.. if you mean she didnt mean to kill her when she drugged her face, well, prosecution will argue legitimetly that, that act is reckless and can cause the murder of a child or anyone…
The only other option that Casey has at this point is to plea guilty to a lesser charge. I am curious as to if/when the death penalty will come back to the table.
Pickles, I posted yesterday thanks for the website you gave us leading to the witness list. Wow - even Cast Iron Tattoos.
I got to the computer over an hour ago and have been catch-up reading. You covered everything! In fact, you are making me think a little more about LV. I dismissed it at first.
Sharebear thanks for clearing that up for me, I was a little confused. I never heard of that, and would never think of knocking my children out even when they have me crazy by 7pm everynight, I’m in the dark with what crazy shit people do in this world. I’m young but I guess I don’t hang with those types of people.
Highcell, I understand what you are saying but her googling missing kids, chloroform, neck braking and then partying while the so called nanny kidnapped her kid and never even told anyone not even her best friend or boyfriend, that in my mind as a juror would show intent.
I dunno MTC - Bb’s motives are his own, but I am quite sure that he must of at some point told her, hey…come clean…would rather that then lose a high profile murder case? JMO
BB looked pretty pissed off when he came out of the jail the day Caylee’s remains were found. He didn’t even comment until later that night. But at the same time, he was stirring more theories in his head as to what to come up with next.
warden..if you go to foxnews/orlando..then type on there caylee anthony you will find pages of all that has been released and reported…hope this helps….twocents will be able to give you a list…
Accidents you would also call the ambulance or the police. And even if you are scared you don’t drive around with a dea child in your car. If my child died accidently I would be worrying about my child getting help if they could revive her, etc. Not caring whether I would be arrested or not, the only way that would worry me is if I knew I killed my child on purpose. See what I mean highcell, this is coming from a mother of 2. Make any sense why so many people say intentional and thought out??
Mindy, how do you know she didn’t look that stuff up after the fact trying to cover up an accident?
I don’t want people to get upset with me. I want justice too and the truth is it really bothers me. I’m infatuated with this story and again sicken by it too. I want to believe the world works one way and when I see something like this, I experience a bit of cognitive dissonance. I want to reason with it to make it better. I guess it kinda hits home because I have dated girls like Casey in the past and I never thought they would be capable of doing this. It doesn’t follow the rule of nature.
To me, her comment on Cindy’s myspace sounded like an accident to me.
Only thing that makes any sense to me is a comment someone just made about detaching herself from her…Casey deleted hundreds of pics of Caylee on her Facebook and Myspace.
I’m stuck on intent.
for me it is the behaviour of m since caylee was first reported missing,like on the phone when first arrested,she said to cindy ..all everyone cares about is caylee…that says it all…
LE has proof that she looked up this stuff on her computer way before June it was either March or May. I can’t remember which month due to the fact that some of it was searched in March and some of it was searched in May. Either way, it was before June.
If I remember correctly, the neck breaking was searched in March and then the Chloroform was searched in May, but somewhere between all this she also looked up missing children as well.
She started these searches in March (premeditation starts here).
what was the comment on the my space highcell? I don’t recall or remember it? we feel your frustration in this case, like all of us too… it is indeed something we cannot fathom even no matter how it happened…
She also had not been working since 2006. So why would she even need a nanny in the first place, especially since Cindy and George had Caylee 90% of the time. They also found that the so-called emails she was sending to work, she was actually sending to herself.
highcell..i dont think people are upset with you,its hard to believe that a mother could do this to her own baby,but this is happening in our world and these innocent children need all of our protection and they need our voices,but please think that the good people always outweigh the bad…
paw I did not know that about the emails to herself…weird plain weird….
paw..yes bb was prob. pissed cause maggot won’t budge…even after finding the body
Why would she look up neck-breaking after the fact. Looking up chloroform and neck-breaking on the same day looks like someone needing to make a choice.
Bb knows. why would she be offered any kind of immunity if she didn’t do anything?
highcell, you’re making smoke come out of my ears.
First of all Casey is NOT disturbed. You’re making up an excuse for her behavior. She is a sociopath… read up on it! Sociopaths know right from wrong so anything Casey did she did with full knowledge.
First degree murder requires premeditation, in a killing that is intentional and deliberate. Second degree murder means there was no premeditation proven. Voluntary manslaughter is an unplanned killing in the “heat of passion” or a “sudden quarrel.”
Casey in her right frame of mind, prior to Caylee being killed, used her computer with her own password to search websites regarding how to make chloroform, neck breaking, missing children, a TV show about kidnapping… which shows intent.
Any normal juror with an IQ over 50 would recognize those searches tied with the fact that her daughter disappeared while in her care points to guilt. Plus Casey had no alibi, only statements that were proven false.
To say “well, that may not have been Casey on her computer” is unreasonable thinking because people have passwords so that no one else can use the computer under their name.
Although a motive is not necessary to convict, Casey’s party hardy life style both before and after Caylee’s disappearance shows a woman who desired another life style then the one she had raising a child.
Casey’s neglect to notify the authorities of her daughter’s disappearance as well as her uncaring demeanor regarding her daughter’s whereabouts will speak volumes to the jurors.
do you guys think they will bring back the death penalty or can they?
BB does not care if M budges or not. He is in this for the exposure and future cases that he hopes to obtain by such exposure and experience. He is just doing his job.
They can ask for the death penalty, but I doubt they do.
MMT,
I like your reference point: IQ over 50. I Have been too generous, I alway say with an IQ with more than two digits. LOL..
well for me life behind bars is good,let her spend a long life of remebering each day of what she has done…
Depending on the evidence they now have, now that they have Caylee’s remains depends on if they bring back the death penalty.
FOR ANYONE INTERESTED
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7130516&version=113&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.1.1
awesome timeline, photos and recordings site!
SHAREBEAR…why do you think bb was so pissed coming out of meeting with maggot the day the baby was found?
Minnie thank you
With other high profile cases not getting the death penalty, I doubt they seek that as it is always harder to get a conviction. Especially since she has no priors.
I personally would not mind that, but then there are appeals, etc.. and the saga
continues. Lock her up and throw away the key.
highcell… since you brought it up, can I ask you what you mean when you said…
“I guess it kinda hits home because I have dated girls like Casey in the past and I never thought they would be capable of doing this. It doesn’t follow the rule of nature.”
How can you have so many doubts about Casey and yet say that you have dated girls like her? Can you expound on that please. How were the girls you dated similar to Casey?
Please know that I am not a Therapist… only a Therapist wannabe.
your welcome warden..hope you found everything…
hi c-a,,will you put up some place for warden to go and find all the tape evidence and texts of maggots….thanks..
CA, not sure about that.. I also did not actually see that so I can’t make my own determination of his demeanor.
It might have something to do with losing credibility as a professional after he has been in the media professing her innonence.
Just a wild guess there.
highcell ~ Mindy, how do you know she didn’t look that stuff up after the fact trying to cover up an accident?
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caylee was alive and well when the searches were performed back in May and some even in march i think?
Maggots my space page, with the cartoon pic of a baby looking at a teddy in a noose…looks like caylee
Also, her statment ~ everyone LIES and everyone DIES…what has been given can be taken away!
That to me is premediated and planning…and even if these things were posted after her death…still screams murder to me!
therapist…your our therapist…hope you dont start charging..lol..
It might have something to do with losing credibility as a professional after he has been in the media professing her innonence.
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Yes, and she still won’t budge and admit which puts him in a really tight bind! He has to do what she says…she prob. doesn’t take advise any better then her ignorant mother
CA, another idea is that he really thought he was going to win this case and of course, now there is no way he can possibly think he has the ability to pull this off.
Winning might have been more important to him than I thought. My second idea.
I think the prison Chaplin was sent in deliberately to see if M would break at the news, “We found the body, is there anything you want to say now?” That’s the closest call to wreck the Defense strategy yet. BB probably had heart palpitations when he heard about it.
I am sure she doesn’t. She has nothing to gain now. Even if she talks, she spends the rest of her life behind bars. But, it would be nice for those of us who care about this case and would like to know the truth.
I guess we know the truth, but the actual cause of death is unclear.
Minnie… you’re so cute! Thanks! I’ve always enjoyed analyzing people so I kind of have that investigative mind. LOL
warden - check out my post 1:49…there’s lot’s of stuff in there
A lot of books are written about convicted murderers, mosy by ghost writers. I’m certain the lawywers supplying the details for the book are getting paid in a round about way. Probaably the Ants will, too.
Another thought. If C and G did manage to put enough doubt in jurys minds, what the HELL are they going to do with her when she’s acquitted? Continue to support her cause no one in hell will hire her? Bake cookies together? Flip through photo albums of Caylee? They sure won’t kick her ass out of the house. It boggles my mind.
love2bgran - She could play golf or move to Bahrain.
blogger friends its time i got out of here…
thanks all,its been good to be here today…
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE.
caylee,we all love you babygirl…and you will get justice.xxx.
I think she did it intentionally becuase of the detachment she has had from Caylee…if it was accidental why did she go out and party…why..instead of stealng her bff blind and going on a shoppng spree..why did she do all that…cus thats her way of dealng with accidentally killng her daughtr…All of her friends including her boyfriend stated that she didnt say one word about Caylee missng and that they had no clue there was anything wrong with her..she seemed norml…why…why wasnt she worried for her child…what was she truelly hiding…even an accident wuld generate some remorse and regret…for the loss of life…but she has none…not one ounce of regret or remorse….not one..
val at 2:02
What I read is that it is the prison’s standard procedure to send the prison chaplain to deliver sad news like that - to anyone.
They treated her as if she was a real mother - as if she was not accused of murdering her own child. The jail treated her just like they would an inmate who’s child had died in an accident or something.
Also, one of BB’s law firm’s lawyers was meeting with M at the time. BB is just throwing a fit because no one waited for HIM to show up and do it himself. But that’s what would have been out of the ordinary. If they’d waited for him that would have implied she was guilty of murdering her - sending the chaplain was treating her FAIRLY (I emphasize that for all those who worry so much that M is not being fairly treated).
I think that bb was pissie bout it cus he wantd to see her first reaction to the find..or lak of reaction.
Highcell, Casey was jealous of the love and attention C and G gave Caylee. There was a fight on the 15th where Cindy tried to choke Casey. Casey killed baby to punish her mother who adored that baby. Also, Cindy was, I believe, trying to make Casey totally responsible for the child. Casey didn’t want that responsibility. She killed her to “fix” all the issues the family had. That’s it in a nutshell.
C~A at 1:51 pm you asked: why do you think bb was so pissed coming out of meeting with maggot the day the baby was found?
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I think it’s because M has been lying to HIM all along too! Why not? She’s incapable of telling the truth! Maybe he got a real good look at his client for the first time.
If so, though, I’d think he’d be frightened to death more than angry. But I think he was angry because between M’s lies and finding the baby his whole case is screwed!!! LOL! Too bad, big butt!
A 19 year old girl in Salem ORegon just killed her 2 mos old son..right before Christmas….
killr was also jealous cus Jesse Grund said he loved Caylee more than her…and I think that tweaked her…
I think she has been lyng to him to…bb is a donk….
Just to get the timeline straight about the websearchs…chloroform…..
The web searches were done in March, a significant time before the death. If the prosecution can tie the search to Casey in the minds of the jurors (which seems like it will be extremely easy given the presence of chloroform in the trunk of her car), I think the defense will have a difficult, if not impossible time, explaining that these searches were part of research on cleaning agents to clean the car. Why would she need to look up how to clean the car beforehand? The only reasons I can postulate are because she planned to kill her child in a messy way or because she was concerned about the smell in the trunk…but neither of these dogs will hunt. If you were researching the best way to dispose of your child, would you pick a messy one? If so, what was the point to the research? Why would you be concerned about the smell in your trunk when you could be researching the best way to hide a body? Unless you are specifically looking for a cleaning agent to mask identity like dna and fingerprints…which argues towards premeditation.
The only way I see the defense successfully getting rid of intent and premeditation is the fact that Casey kept her in the trunk for so long. If she had been researching, you would think the diposal site was already picked out….which maybe it was, but there was a problem which led to the backyard temp solution, then the trunk, then the wooded lot down the street. But this seems to show confusion, which I can see the defense using to demonstrate this was an unexpected event. However, that leaves a lot to be explained in regards to the missing 31 days and the massive partying.
She has total lak of acknowledgment for the loss of Caylee’s life..nothng..no tears no heartache..nothng..she knew Caylee was dead yet she said on camera in the jail….”tell her mommy says to hang in ther and that I love her”…she knew Caylee was dead…she has known this whole time..and what now she cant go out and steal and buy beer and bras and dance at a club and smoke some dope and drink a beer…no parental connection what so ever to that child…she has shown and xhibetd none…she went to a fake job day in and day out for 2 yrs so she didnt have to spend any time with that child….2 years to fake a job is a long time…why…just to get away from that child who is harder to deal with then a 12 hr event shift…2 yrs…she fakd that job…2 yrs she said she was going to work…and c and g watchd Caylee…..2 yrs..not a real job…not really supportng her child…just out partyng doing God knows what….not really workng…its amazng that she culdnt stand Caylee that much she faked a job for 2yrs…just to not spend time with her..My kids when I had to work..it killd me..I desperatlty wantd to be home with them…every day
When you try to choke out a self proclaimed spiteful bit$%, this is what you get. revenge.
My opinion of the number one person that put us all here today, 6 months later:
No not Casey, my vote goes to Jose “BS” Baez.
Instead of getting his client to talk to authorities and cop a plea deal (20- 30 years) resulting in giving Caylee a proper burial, He instructs Ms yapalot to keep her trap shut.
Everyone can see that allowing her to talk, even in jail, will yield some clues even though she lies constantly.
In the meantime, Caylee’s body decomposes in the Florida heat for the next 5 /12 months. I know defense attorneys have a job to do but his defense strategy goes over the line. How can an attorney dismiss his instinct on the obviously guilty Tot Mom and continue on with his morally wrong approach? I suppose if it was 70 year uncle leo’s body rotting I would feel differently(maybe). Then Baez keeps showing up on tv spots and press conferences sayig “Casey is 100% innocent” and ” you dont know half of the story”! All for the glory of a high profile case. Baez, may you one day realize that you have done your client, the country and poor little Caylee, wrong.
highcell:
cognitive dissonance is what Cindy suffers from and perhaps you too as you stated. It means that you KNOW something to be true however you continue to act as if it is not.
Just do a google search for child killers and get a reality check on the fact that mothers DO kill their children unfortunately pretty frequently. There have been a number of recent cases and plenty in the past. Read up and get over that right quick. It happens.
Why are you hung up on intent? Have you not read anything about this case? Or the responses full of info that our bloggers here have given you? Have you watched any videos with M? Have you seen or heard any sadness or remorse?
The ONLY times she has cried - that you see photos of in the news - is (1) in court the first time when bail was set at half a million and (2) at her lawyer’s press conference minutes before the grand jury came back with the indictment and she went back to jail (which she already knew she was going to) with no bond. Other than that every photo of her is strutting her stuff for the cameras with a smirk on her face and high-fiving her brother and cuddling her attorney. She is disgusting.
I might turn this around again and ask you to prove she did NOT intend to kill her? What proof = what shred of evidence is there that she wouldn’t or couldn’t or didn’t? NONE!
Odd that parents follow Lee’s instructions in all this. Don’t take a poly. Don’t give fingerprints. In most families, parents are wiser and don’t do what 28 year old tells them to. I think the kids ran that household. No, wait. Cindy ran it but in a weird way.
Castrate me if I’m wrong.
Xanex being Zanny - I think this rumor was started by Paddy on Nancy Grace - I don’t think I have ever seen a written document or heard an interview where anyone said Casey was definently using Xanex, but I do seem to remember an article claiming it was a med used by Cindy - her lawyer often cited medication, but never the exact type.
Every time I see the words “accidental death”, I cringe.
How many times have we seen on the news or in local papers that a child drowned in a backyard pool. Every single time that happens, the parent jumps in the pool, tries to revive the child, screams for help from neighbors and calls 911. That parent waits for the ambulance and beyone anything, hopes for revival of their child.
If that child dies, they live with recrimination the rest of their life. Sometimes, if a ladder or gate is left open, they might even be charged with something.. neglect, etc. Most of those times, its a probationary thing.
The same can be said for parents who mistakenly give wrong dosage to kids and they die or almost die. Again, the parent calls 911 and stays close to that child, even though feeling guilty and perhaps even being accused by the other parent of being negligent.
These things happen, sadly, every day all over the world. That is ACCIDENTAL.
To me, “accidental” is not giving too much xanax or chloroform to a healthy child. So, if these methods were used (as a “nanny”) to keep Caylee quiet while Mommy partied and if this ONE time, she gave too much and Caylee died, tell me how this is accidental? This was deliberate, she gave this to the child knowing in high doses it could harm a human. Yet, she still gave it to her child.
When that child died, did she call 911 or anyone? No, she disposes of her own child’s body like its a diseased cat. So, even if she didn’t sit and methodically plan this murder, there is no way in hell this is an accidental death.
A healthy 2 year old child is dead because of neglect and selfish non-caring from a parent whom she trusted and loved.
To me, this is evil in the highest form. Trust and betrayal.
RE: XANAX
Spacely - I have only found one place where Casey herself referred to xanax, but it was related to having a good time in bed with Jesse, not related to Caylee.
I’ll look for a link to that doc–it was either text messages or myspace comments (or some sort of chat) between Casey & Jesse. She even mentioned that she had gotten the xanax from Annie, who lived(s??) in Saw Grass.
Jose Baez = slimy
The reason Jose is acting upset about not being told about the body first is:
#1) He can never be sure what his client will say, just look at her mom.
#2) He is compiling a list of “denied” requests that he can submit to the jury as proof of LE’s conspiracy to blame his client.
#3) He enjoys the opportunity to whine on TV because it is bringing him tons of business.
Hi Sharebear! I’m hoping that the prosecution team will be able to give us a little more insight as to how Caylee died. I’m sure they have evidence that we are not yet privileged to. It could be the swimming pool or the chloroform but all signs point to premeditated murder.
I’m sure that M will never believe that she will spend the rest of her life in jail. She will never admit or be sorry that she killed Caylee.
I don’t know how the Ants can miss hearing the emptiness in M’s voice when she talks about Caylee or how they can’t detect her poor acting job. I guess it was years of them believing M’s lies and becoming numb to her meaningless voice that prepared them to take whatever M throws at them… even this devastation in their lives.
HIGHCELL
You might consider doing some research on another related issue which has to do with your original premise.
Intent may not even come into play, for instance, if Caylee died from the use of chloroform. Besides the issue of previous computer searches for the drug, there’s another issue at hand.
I’ve heard discussions between attorneys and former prosecutors referring to the charge being “upped” a category if Caylee died after being given chloroform to put her to sleep.
In other words, they were saying that it would not be considered an accident if a mother gave a toddler a dangerous drug, regardless of whether the mother just wanted the child to go to sleep or not.
Maybe someone else here knows more about this or how to explain it better–I’ve only heard the dicussions on NG and other shows.
highcell: Casey look all this stuff up on her computer in March . . . Months before she killed Caylee.
I hate coming in late. My answers are always at the bottom of the blog. Ugh.
Howdy MMT!
never said her behavior was not irrational but that doesn’t prove she had intent. It doesn’t prove anything because it is HER nature to act irrational. That is who she is. She is a lying, emotionless, sociopath (http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&client=firefox-a&channel=s&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=rAj&sa=X&oi=spell&resnum=0&ct=result&cd=1&q=define%3A+sociopath&spell=1) but that doesn’t prove anything.
CIT,
I will give it a try in few words. Drugging your child with or without actual intent to kill can result in death. This is what I believe Florida calls Felony Murder. Regardless of Intent, committed Felony, child dies. In a nutshell: careless and reckless behavior which any idiot knows could be dangerous=Felony Murder. Intent is essentially irrelevent.
Therefore, accidental death flies out the window.
sharebear, all I’m arguing is intent because that is what is needed to charge her with 1st degree.
Someone was asking earlier about how do we know about the content of the text messages or where to find them?
If you google for Casey Anthony documents or something similar, the texts are part of one of the document dumps (I am thinking most are in the second dump) made by police several months ago. Also in there are documentation of verbal interviews and written statements by friends and family.
Probably at the same site, they will have the recorded interviews, the 911 calls, and the jail house recordings. Some even have TV interviews with family and friends.
About the LE having a lot more evidence…..I believe they do have more substantial evidence than just that released, but anything they will use in court will have to come out prior as part of the discovery processes, so I do have doubts about how much better the evidence will get than that which we have seen. LE has already been ordered to hand over evidence pertaining to the discovery site, which I assume means it will also hit the newspapers at the same time compliments of the Sunshine Laws.
Yahl probably already know this, but she also search “inhalation”. I found this on discussions about One Tree Hill and her other searches. I just read this yesterday.
Howdy CIT!
Glad you’re here to blow out the smoke that is coming out of my ears! LOL
I think another piece of damning evidence which will prove intent is actually non-evidence….the child’s missing possessions..in other words, when Casey left the house after a big huff with her mother and started the 31 days of not allowing Caylee to see Cindy, she took nothing with her to care for Caylee. No clothes, no diapers, no food, no toys other than what was already in the car. Casey came back to the house and stole money and food, but never anything to care for Caylee. I think the prosecution will easily be able to show there was no intent to care for Caylee. Why did Casey never intend to care for Caylee….she planned on Caylee being gone, therefore no need to drag a bunch of stuff around. I think this will show intent as much as anything else. And since Casey had no job, no income, and no support coupled with the fact that no clothes were taken, there is no defense arguement that she planned to obtain these items later.
Spacely: I’m a little confused by the sunshine law because I heard that anything submitted to the clerk of court was subject to that BUT the state could also give info/evidence/whatever directly to the defense and then it would not be subject to the sunshine law. So I’m not sure that every bit of evidence has to be available to the media. Not sure how to look up that kind of info and of course have now forgotten where I read that (not a blog, though)
highcell - don’t you think they already had the “intent” covered when a grand jury indicted her on first degree? That was even before the duct tape…that is intent if ya ask me as well
capy ~ I never heard she searched inhalation? really, is that confirmed?
When I’m on the blog, I’m usually multitasking as well so please forgive me for being a little slow in responding to comments.
Right, Spacely! And remember she told C that the nanny had everything that Caylee needed!
Spacely, how do you know what she didn’t take with her and/or what she bought for Caylee?
if they didn’t already have reasonable evidence to show intent and motive, how could a gj say they had enough to charge with first degree and indict her?
c~a - Don’t know about confirmation.
Here’s where I read it: I searched Casey Anthony, One Tree Hill. About the fourth one down that had words associated content in title.
Open that up and its in the fourth paragraph. I don’t know how, but I’ll try to Cut/paste.
ok.. its a real good day, i get to come back here….
highcell….why do you post a comment then appear to leave….why not reply to all who has answered you or asked your opinion?
Some words Googled were “peroxide”, “alcohol”, and “acetone”. Peroxide and alcohol usually is good for wounds, and other minor usages. Acetone is a paint thinner, or found in nail polish remover and so on. Another word searched was “Lost Numbers”. “Lost” numbers surrounds the television show “Lost”, as found when you Google “Lost Numbers”. “Inhalation” was searched, perhaps to find a “safe” way to save money on babysitting by using chloroform instead, but this is personal observation. Note: there is nothing safe about chloroform.
Hey, I did it! This is from that article.
suppose she is capable of doing this with intent..could it be possible those searches (ie. neck breaking) were to murder George and Cindy which would explain why she told Amy that she was being handed over the house? Seems like she was fishing for a reason for them to disappear…George having a heart attack (Amy’s Statement)..parents getting a divorce
spacely at 3.11…thats brillant..another great thought….why didnt she take her babys stuff?????
capy - highlight paragraph, right click drop down menu asks what you want to do, right click “copy”
return to bnn - go to blank post…right click ~ drop down menu ~ left click on paste…it should appear
Highcell,
Again, I know what she took with her by statements made by her family and friends, as well as all the items found by police in her car - which is where everything would be as we know there was no Zanny and there was nothing at any of the friends she was staying with. There are more than 1500+ pages of released documents at this time and concerns about what Casey had in order to care for Caylee are in them.
We know what she bought with the money she stole as she is on camera for almost every purchase and none of it concerned care for Caylee, even though she claims she felt Caylee was alive at the time, but kidnapped. As a parent, would you stop purchasing for your child because they were missing? I think the normal reaction is the opposite, to continue to buy to be ready for the return of the child.
We also know she had no income and therefore, no money…..what could she have bought?
We know from the bf statements, they did not buy anything for Caylee.
ok..highcell i posted that just as you returned
i apologise….
Minnie, I haven’t disappeared. I’m just absorbing it all in..I want to see if someone sees something I don’t because it doesn’t make sense to me.
Spacely 3:11 Great point! How can LE prove this? I’ve heard this before, but who said this, C?
highcell - G & C could never “disappear.” Both had jobs (at least G had started one on July 15) and friends and family. “Heart attack” was a lie so she could get out of doing something with Amy that she had promised to do. “Divorce” was a lie too. There was no way that C & G could be disposed of in time for the move-in she’d promised Amy (another lie).
highcell said,”Suppose she is capable of doing this with intent..could it be possible those searches (ie. neck breaking) were to murder George and Cindy which would explain why she told Amy that she was being handed over the house? Seems like she was fishing for a reason for them to disappear…George having a heart attack (Amy’s Statement)..parents getting a divorce.”
BINGO! Now you got it highcell! You figured out how the mind of a sociopath/spiteful bitch works. Most likely she was planning to kill George and Cindy along with Caylee.
MMT - Perhaps the questioner will answer m2c’s questions. Or address the other comments.
We’ve already pointed out the issues we think are related, as well as the fact that intent may not even matter, if Caylee died in the process of m committing a felony.
How does anyone EVER show intent? For instance, if a man shoots another man and then claims the gun went off accidentally, how would it be proven one way or another?
Surely their relationship would be examined as well as how he acted afterwards: was he remorseful? did he call 911? Had he recently googled “accidental shootings” prior to the incident? Did he leave the man in the back of his car, decomposing (making up stories about dead squirrels)? Had he then dumped the body, left to rot in the woods while he went out partying with friends? Did he lie about the man’s whereabouts (at the beach, Disneyworld, etc)? Had he told no one? Had he made up another story? Had he told a thousand lies to LE?
No offense to anyone, but it just doesn’t seem to me that a real discussion is going on here (more like a one-way discussion). One person pops in and keeps repeating the same question, without addressing the thoughtful comments people are leaving.
JMO!!! No offense!
what do you see highcell,i dont understand that you say you believe m killed caylee,but it was an accident,please explain what you think has happened,maybe i could understand where you are coming from…
MMT & others - Good luck! See you guys later. Gotta go run an errand. bbl
Capy,
With so much released evidence and so much coverage in the media, I cannot always remember the exact sources, but as to the possessions taken for Caylee by Casey, I think that was in the initial statements by Cindy and George and I think I remember Amy making some similiar observations as she spent a lot of time with Casey and Caylee. And the cops picked up on it right away as I seem to remember them asking a question about it to most of the friends in their interviews. As to what was in the car, I believe there is a police report detailing the finds in the car, and in interviews with the tow truck attendants.
I could be wrong about any of that, but I am pretty sure that the police are convinced she did not have the minimum items of care for Caylee.
That is what sucks about blogging, I don’t really have the time to do all the research again for documentation purposes, but I have read everything that has come out in this case at least once and am relying on my faulty and steadily failing memory.
hi c in texas…hope ur doing good…thats what im trying to say to highcell…
im tired of people saying things then not backing it up…it only makes our therapist have steamin ears..not good….
Therapist: I don’t think John Sandford, James Patterson, etal could write a novel like this case. Goes to show you that truth is stranger than fiction.
So why would G lie about seeing them in detail on the 16th, both with backpacks? It makes more sense that they blasted out of there the night of the 15th, because if they had stayed you could have cut the tension with a knife. No cheerful interaction with Dad as they left, I’m sure.
minnie - Howdy!
Hope you had a nice Christmas holiday.
Yes, we must at all costs avoid steamy-eared therapists!!! lol …. (glad MMT has a sense of humor!)
ok, really gtg now. bbl.
Concerned in Texas, where are you from. I live in McKinney, just outside Dallas.
This story would read like a Wes Craven or Tim Burton script.
bye ,texas..hope im here to catch you laters…
I understand what highcell is saying, and I don’t think he/she is being an ass by it. From what the medical examiner is stating is that they can’t tell how Caylee died, and that does put a tiny cramp in the prosecution, but not enough to throw the whole case. I am pretty sure the prosecution has plenty of information that we won’t ever find out until the trial or after the verdict comes in (if not televised). So I think that is what highcell is trying to get across. Correct me if I’m wrong, don’t want to put words in your mouth. I strongly believe they will be able to prove premeditation just with the information already released, but I’m sure there is a whole load of more evidence to come out in this case. But not everyone has to feel like they have enough, I’m trying to understand everyone. We all think differenty at different points in this case. One thing we all agree M is a Guilty Btch that we all hope will pay dearly for what she did. But we all have different theories of what happened and the only person that holds the truth can’t ever tell the truth so no one may ever really know the whole truth.
Thanx Paw. Does anyone else find the video tape of Caylee with her great grandpa kinda weird I mean why would C video tape Caylee that day? I just find it weird..I mean that video made me cry it’s like the great grandpa was the last one to give little Caylee any kind of love and affection. Does anyone know if the clothes that evil C washed was Caylee’s or??? Sorry, I have soooo many questions
About the theory that Casey was planning to kill George and Cindy………
I do believe this was a fantasy she had for years and perhaps the internet searches were a way for her to fantasize about doing so, but we do all have our fantasies.
I would also be hesitant to say that everything she told Amy about moving in was a lie. This is one of the biggest problems in the case. My feeling when I first read Amy’s statement and saw all of these ridiculous claims about divorce and George cheating and Cindy getting a divorce was that Casey lied to everyone all the time.
Now, we have new evidence. There was an email exchange between Cindy’s mom and Cindy’s mom’s friend in which they discuss stories told by Cindy:
1) George lost a bunch of money gambling @ $30k
2) Cindy had researched divorce but had been advised it was financially a disaster for her, so she gave it up.
We also have the statement by George to the police that he lost a bunch of money to an internet hoax. This was the lost gambling money. How did he really lose it? I am sure the FBI knows, but who cares, really? The important facts to glean here are that you cannot tell when an Ant is lying or telling the truth.
As far as Amy and Casey, my belief is that Casey repeated lies to Amy that she had been told by Cindy….but….Casey believed these lies to be real at the time.
This does not clear Casey of anything, but it does demonstrate exactly how unclear everything in this case is because every single one of the Ants is a liar.
Jose should feel right at home.
see what i mean….why dont you answer people highcell…there is good people here who have came from all over the world for answers for this little girl…stop wasting their time…
LOL… well, me and my steamin ears are taking off for a while too.
I’ll being back to join you wonderful bloggers later as well as you too highcell. (LOL just joshin with ya highcell) But, I do hope to read your responses to all the great comments that were thrown at you today by my insightful fellow bloggers, who by the way are way up on you in points!
I don’t think FBI releases any information they have. All we hear is what is filed at the Clerk’s office by local LE. Bet FBI has tons. I’m dying to find out what it is!
Minie, please..no. I’m here just like everyone else. Those “answers” may satisfy you, but it doesn’t me.
sorries therapist….lol…im gettin those steaming ears too…thanks for your thoughts today..i hope to be here later when you get back..
good point, love2begran! The FBI is not subject to the sunshine laws and I bet they have plenty!
as i asked you before highcell what excactly is it you dont believe…i really am trying to understand what your thoughts are..lots here have given you theirs so maybe you could return them with what you feel…
and yes,you are entitled to your opnions…i would just like to here them thats all…
Dee - I don’t see anything strange about videotaping Caylee with her great grandfather on Father’s Day. That’s why they invented home video cameras! That’s about the most normal thing I’ve heard in this whole case! Poor great grandpa does not look like he has much longer in this world and it would be natural to want to capture little Caylee with him (for her later on, after he passed and she might not remember him so well). What’s beyond tragic is that it was Caylee who died first.
This seems to be the only thing that any ant did to recognize father’s day. I do not believe that M went with C and Caylee to see great grandpa and I have never heard there was anything special for G. Hence the un-memorable last day that anyone saw Caylee. Everyone thought it was the week before - June 9. Which I still find inexplicable! Except that originally I do think C was truly upset and forgot I guess. July 15 was the last day that C was truthful I believe - except for correcting that date to be June 15 not June 9.
dee - I don’t see c takin video of caylee with g-g-pa weird at all..C prob. thought with his age they might not see eachother again. the part that haunts me is the fear in the babys’ eyes..she was scared!
Ironaically with no thanks to maggot it was the last time the two would ever see eachother.
The clothes that were washed were maggots pants that were in the backseat of the car and smelled of DEATH…so C’s auto reaction was to clean them…. that was her first obstruction of justice…
ohh i dont like getting mad..hope im not coming across like this…im always the one to run from any sign of it..lol…its just this little girl has got under my skin…its christmas and she should be playing with her toys and eating herself sick with sweets…
Oops, I just have to answer one more comment before I leave…
Dee said, “Does anyone else find the video tape of Caylee with her great grandpa kinda weird I mean why would C video tape Caylee that day? I just find it weird.”
Dee, I didn’t find it weird at all. It was a special occasion… It was Father’s Day and that was Caylee’s great-grandfather. Evidently he’s in poor health and maybe Cindy thought that soon her dad wouldn’t have the strength to hold Caylee in his arms anymore and sing to her. I think that video shows how much Cindy loved Caylee and how proud she was to show her off to great grandpa. There was so much love in that video and Cindy was the one who brought it to the surface. As many things that I blame Cindy for and hold against her… that video is not one of them. God bless her for taking that video of pure love.
minnie girl….it’s better to stand up to it anyway…least I justisfy it as my way of honouring caylee not only when it’s easy to but defending her murdering mothers actions by not speaking up for caylee is not honoring her…JMO…that’s what works for me
FOR BETTER OR FOR WORSE…it’s all about being a voice for caylee…
Just call me Gran. It’s shorter and easier.
c-a…i have always seen that look in caylees eyes in every picture..they are soo tired…
think im having a real bad sad caylee day..i keep braking out in tears…
Thanks c-a…yes even if im wrong in what i say im doing it for caylee….and im not going to stop…she has a voice in us..thankyou feel better…
MMT - With all do respect, although I agree that cindys video intentions prob. was the only genuine thing I have seen her do with or for the baby, I don’t see much of anything in that video but fear and awkwardness in both baby and grandpa…they both seem afraid to move or speak…baby’s eyes keep darting back to c and so does grandpas…The feeling I get when I watch that video is not of love per say but seeing the two of them looking very uneasy and unsure.
The Sunshine Laws - I am by no means an expert on Sunshine Laws, but I do live in Florida and I did work for a city govt and did deal a lot with them, just not in a criminal case sense.
My understanding is that anything that will be used by prosecution in the trial has to be given to defense as part of the discovery process - much like in most states. However, in Florida, to allow for public review of all govt proceedings, anything released in discovery becomes public record and can be accessed by a public records request - so LE does not call the news depts and release the info, they newspapers request it from the clerk.
I don’t personally know of any exception to this. There could be, but in the end, if it is used at trial, the trial itself is open to public record, so it too would be released.
Although the FBI is not subject to the Sunshine laws, and I would not doubt they have additional evidence, the only way to use that evidence in a trial is to give it to State prosecutors, who will then have to go through the discovery processes with defense. So, it will come out too.
FBI and local LE do have additional, non-released evidence, but that is all evidence in a working investigation. Some of it may not even be able to be used it court, so it will never see sunshine.
Again, this is only my understanding of the laws and I am sure a decent lawyer could find a way around some of this, but there is really no incentive for the state to keep anything a secret other than evidence in an open ongoing investigation and no incentive for the defense unless it makes the client look real bad, but then again, that is what all prosecution evidence does.
hi gran….thats a good name…
minnnie - you have given 150% of your heart to this child and everyone knows that. Once in a while when you see fit to question someone do it! It’s all about caylee and justice…not about doing or saying wrong but trying to find the truth and that will always mean, questions and differences in opinions. It’s all good! As long as we respect eachother. When someone however, does come on and totally disrespects others in doing so , they are disrespecting justice along with the life and death of this precious child…that I think is why we get so defensive. WE WANT TO PROTECT CAYLEE…EVEN NOW!
minnie, that comment Casey left on Cindy’s myspace is one thing which makes me feel it was an accident and not done in revenge or malice. I think Casey, being the selfish person she is, unintentionally killed her. Casey is the type of person who has lived in a world without consequence where someone has always bailed her out.
Spacey, when you asked where she had money when she didn’t have an income to take care of Caylee..let’s not forget, she is a thief and has been busted for it.
I’m not trying to argue for the sake of arguing. I truly want to know what everyone sees that I don’t when it regards intent when irrational behavior is not part of the equation.
highcell said,in December 29th, 2008 at 4:10 pm minnie, that comment Casey left on Cindy’s myspace is one thing which makes me feel it was an accident and not done in revenge or malice.
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WHICH COMMENT
thankyou c-a..you are such a good person…
i hope that caylee looks down and feels all the love we have for her..god is one lucky dude to have her..
there is always more good in this world than bad….
C~A, google it..but it is the one about a precious angle coming and leaving expectantly..
As far as the video tape of grandpa and Caylee, I don’t think the taping was weird, although they both looked uncomfortable, but there are so many reasons that could be.
What I find disturbing is that Cindy stated the last day she saw Caylee was June 9 and the rest of the Ants went along with that date….several times….then had to correct themselves at a later date once the video came it light.
I believe there was a sinister purpose to making people believe the last time they saw Caylee was June 9th. Is there a parent on this blog who would have made that mistake several times? Maybe in the heat of the moment, but these are statements taken later. And how could they all agree on the same wrong date? There is something very significant about this lie.
I hope so too Minnie…I really hope caylee knows how much love our little blog has for her and that she among the most beautiful angels and has everything she could ever have dreamed of. ONe thing I know for sure is that she is not being made to sniff chloriform anymore and dealing with a physho two faced unloving selfish bitch for a mother anymore. No amount of “things” that g and c could of ever given her would take away the damage maggot was doing to that child, or take away the pain of eventually knowing how much her mother disliked and hated her being around. I just hope that she did not see mags face last thing when she finally went home. I really hope that she didnt know what happened, and didn’t go to heaven knowing mommy hurt her…that kills me!
Ah! I’m glad I asked about the video because with so many dates out there I for some reason missed that it was on father’s day I’m clear now.thanks and yes I agree that is a sweet video.
Highcell,
Are you seriously stating that you believe she stole money to buy necessities for Caylee? Where did she steal this money from? The house? Then why not take the items at that time? Do you think she spent money she stole from her grandparents on Caylee? Again, why not just take the stuff in the house? As far as we know, although she was a known thief among her family, she only stole from one friend, Amy, and only after Caylee had dissappered. So, I think the prosecution will shoot the “she stole to provide for her child” defense down immediately.
All of them agreeing on the same wrong date is questionable.
Spacely - i don’t get it. I think it would be worse if it were 6/9 because more time would have elapsed before C finally learned of missing Caylee and called 911.
What could be a sinister purpose? I’m just curious.
The visit would have been confirmed by the nursing home on Fathers Day…anybody know if anyone from the nursing home is on the witness list…would think so given the discrepancies on the dates?
as you said highcell…MAGGOTT IS A SELFISH PERSON…whom KILLED caylee,who went out partying,,YEAH THAT IS THE ACTIONS OF SOMEONE WHO ACCIDENTALY KILLED HER DAUGHTER..
AND do you think that with the find of caylees remains that had tape on her little head that was also put there by accident???
minnie - it’s all so obvious to those of us that have been following every detail of this case that she is guilty.
and to quote MTC - “anyone with an IQ over 50″ can see that!
the duct tape alone shows intent to kill!
If it was an accident it was a result of malicious/heinous felony conduct (Felony Murder) and intent is irrelevant. It continues to be a capital offense and she would still be subject to the death penalty if the State chose to pursue that avenue.
I, for one, think it was no accident when you look at the evidence of searches, her response, her behavior, etc.
actually…it should be obvious to any newcomer with the basics of the story and especially the finding of baby in a garbage bag with duct tape around her head..
MAGS IS 100% GUILTY…I SAY FRY HER
GREEN MILE STYLE…..BURN BABY BURN!!
minnie, not getting upset here..just discussing this. Casey has already shown signs of trying to cover her tracks and the tape being around the skull may of been a way to show that the baby was kidnapped just like she said in her statements. I’m not denying Casey put the tape there. I feel if it was put there while she was alive, it fell off with the flesh rotting away.
The sinister purpose is:
OK, you got a dead kid on your hands and you don’t want to take the blame, so you and all your family say the last time I saw them was a week before you know they really disappeared……so that eventually some poor sap comes along and says, I was her on such and such a date - which is after the date you said. So now, you got this sucker as the last person to see the child alive….so where does the investigation focus…on the last person to see the child alive.
If not for the video tape, they would have stuck with the 9th and pinned the whole thing on …..wait for it…..Jessie Grund…..he made an initial statement about hearing Caylee on a phone call which was after the 9th.
If not Grund, than anyone whom the police determined to be the last to see her.
This is also why I think George and Lee are involved, told Cindy the night she called 911 after the police left, they all agreed to the 9th, and Lee started really wondering what Casey did with the body.
ya know the mother in me doesnt want to thing that any mother could do this,yes its the hardest job in the world,i bring up my girl on my own…and i would die for her,and i love every momment…so i find it hard for someone to call this an accident…
JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE…
The cause of death is a bigger question, which is not likely to be answered. With the body found, the decomposition in the car, etc, the Nanny doing it is not a viable argument and the reasonable doubt that was being laid out has errupted now that the remains have been found.
The child is gone and her mother killed her so she could be free and function as a carefree college girl which she desired to be.
HIGHCELL - not answering for minnie..but have a comment…the statment by le was the tape was wrapped around babies head..not in the bag! That was a pretty good wrap job just to make it look like a kidnapping…anyway, who’s to say that it looks more like a kidnapping then mags being the one to put on baby in the first place. It could either one….only thing is there was NO NANNY!
simple math makes maggot the one who put the tape on the baby…nobody else …
oh sweet jesus…of course..silly minnie..it was the nanny….the nanny whom minded caylee will little miss casey was sweating her brow at work..at universal…i forgot…
Hi all, i got off to take a nap with baby lol
am back now reading th discussions after I left,
i am looking forward to the nanacy grace show tonight to see what the heck is going on with lee now..
the only thing I haev to dispute is the videotape of caylee on fathers day, nothing weird about it at all! one normal family thing I see being done, I didnt see antyhing untoward about it, and i saw alot of pride in the filming her like she did. i think C loved that baby with all her heart how could she not? look at caylee.. to say she didnt love her is wrong, we don’t know that… i am glad they have that last tape…
highcell glad to see your still hanging with us… i still never saw the my space comment…
the only way all of our questions will fully be answered is by trial, only then will it all get put together, all the pieces. while we all blog here we only conclude or draw conslusions of what WE believe…so I guess everyone has a take on it.. I know people of my own who don’t see it as pre-med… 2 of my familiy members! LOL imagine the debating that goes on…lol
C~A,
I know and it obvious Casey put it (the tape) there. I’m not verifying her nanny story or any other lie she’s told. It hard for me to accept my gut feeling Caylee suffered. I know with every ion of my body Casey is responsible. I just don’t think it was her intent. Sorry..
We are still waiting for possible cause of death with the toxi tests…there not back yet and i am still holding out hope for some traces of drugs in her bone marrow.
Dr. G is medical examiner and only examines what is lying on the table in front of her. With no flesh or organs her job was pretty simple IMO. She would only be able to look for signs of trauma to the bones she was given. There was none. That is not the only possible cause of death however, that is why toxicology tests are being conducted and we still may find that she was being drugged and can say pretty safely, that if there are drugs in her bone marrow or her hair, both tests that were not conducted by dr.g, that the cause of death would be poisoing!
So then we have a body, we have motive (sociopathic jelousy) we have intent to kill and to cover up with the duct tape and the lies to cover up, and hopeufully we will have a cause of death as well…all things found at the scene tieing the crime back to the ants house…and with M’s demeanor and 0 remorse for her missing child….
We will have ourselves a very tidy conviction!
Just because there is duct tape around the skull doesn’t mean a kidnapper did it. I just don’t get where some people seem to think that just because a child’s skull was duct taped that it must have been someone else. As evil as Casey is, I’m surprised the remains were even still intact. Meaning, I’m surprised she didn’t just…….. Never mind, I’m not even going to go there. Y’all get my point.
hi pammyliz…maybe i should go take a nap too..lol..
i have told all my family friends here in ireland about this case,made them go on net and all says she is guilty….
as c-a so well put..BURN MAGGOTT BURN..
Days ago someone said they got duct tape in their hair and had to cut their hair to get the tape out. That tape wrapped around caylee’s head/hair was never meant to come off. If you were planning to remove it, you would only place on mouth. Not an accident.
highcell - how would you explain her not fessing up if she could prove it was an accident? Why would she sit in jail on a murder one charge and face life in prison if babys death was an accident? Would you sit in jail on a premeditated murder charge if you accidentally caused the death of your baby?
NObody would, she can’t come up after 5 months any reasonable story that would prove it was an accident. Cause it wasnt’…she knows shes f’ed…she’s going up the river cause she is guilty..premeditated and she knows they have plenty of evidence to prove she planned it…
Why else, again, would she sit in jail for a much more serious crime then manslaughter?????
C~A yes someone from the nursing home is on the list + le went & checked out the register for that day- they verified it.
Highcell- what was Scott Petersons intent- did he give one??? Or Diane Downs- don’t recall a confession from either or a video of the crime, just 2+2=4.
M was the last person known to be w/ Caylee, dna in the trunk of the car she drove, she never reported Caylee missing- she got caught after 31 days, then lied & lied & lied about everything under the sun, we can do the math. Add that w/ pc searches, comments to friends, attitude, partying on tape while Caylee is missing, anger at her mother/fight reported by Lv & neighbor on the 15th, etc. & it will add up. Seldom do murders have a video or a confession it’s doing the math. You know like, 1:00 p.m. 6/16 is the last time anyone saw Caylee according to her flesh & blood, at 8 p.m. M is caught on tape at BB w/ her bf- just strolling around renting good ole murder shows. Then on 7/15 M is just a wreck cuz her daughter is missing & she is arrested on an f~ing whim & guess who spends eternity in jail if they don’t find Caylee!!!
100% proof would be seeing it w/ ur own eyes & even then u’d have to guess the why??
The fact that someone thinks that maggott killed caylee,accidental or purpose should be enough to WANT her to be convicted of first degree murder…enough.
i gotta say GREAT post jrsfarm, it sums it up nicely…
PAW - I think some of the people who think that it had to be a kidnapper because of the duct tape on Caylee have watched too much TV and seen too many movies. Hence they’ve seen plenty of kidnappers do that. Not so many TV shows or movies about mothers who kill their children. Hence they think it couldn’t have been the mother. Hopefully if anyone like that ends up on the jury, the state will quickly disabuse them of that faulty logic.
I do not personally think anyone is going to sympathize with casey anthony. and everyone watching will be happy to see her never see the light of day again, so first degree second its all the same because she will serve time for this, and minne was it u ? CA? said if accident then why not tell and face manslaughter… way less charge and time
I personally feel that M placed tape around her mouth and tape to make it appear like nanny did this to caylee.. that I do feel..
to go along with kidnapping story
I agree, she will serve her life behind bars. Who cares what they call it.
no..didnt ask that pammy..i just want the key throwin away…
c~a - GREAT point! I hadn’t thought of it like that. Most murderers would want to convince LE, it was an accident. Not, take chances of Murder 1. She’s such a detailed liar, she just might have passed it off, if she would have spoken sooner.
You don’t accidentally give your child something they shouldn’t even be taking in the first place,nor duct tape their head,nor put them in a bag,nor put them in your trunk,nor bury them yourself,nor not call police for 31 days,nor party and sign up and join a hot body contest,nor bake and cook for others,nor lie to LE/FBI. YOU JUST DON’T DO THIS IF YOU ACCIDENTALLY KILL YOUR OWN CHILD!!!
And that’s not even 1/3 of what she has said or done.
Jrsfarm - yes, bravo…and another statement she made that now seems to be her foreseeing her future cause she knows she was gonna get caught eventually was when she said in jail house to C, ” The cops already told me that they are gonna pin this on me”…so kinda saying that even if she is pinned for it cause we all know she did it, that she is still innocent cause the cops are gonna frame her??
She was forseeing her being convicted and planting that statement as to get c and g to still believe her lies cause it would be not that she is guilty but because the cops are framing her and that will the reason she goes to jail….trying to find anyway to keep c and g as doting loving parents even after she is convicted…
The other thing is why does she not trust the cops so much…she has no reason to …she was trying to get c and g to not trust them when they haul her ass off to jail forever….brainwashing…one of her specialties!
highcell at 4:38 You said, ” It hard for me to accept my gut feeling Caylee suffered. I know with every ion of my body Casey is responsible. I just don’t think it was her intent.”
So do you think that M put Caylee in the trunk, possibly drugged her, wrapped duct tape around her head (to keep her quiet in case she woke up from the drugs) and then went to bf’s house and parked and then went to blockbuster with bf and then some time later excused herself from bf to “check on” caylee? Then what? 1) Finds child alive but doesn’t want to take her to bf’s cause he doesn’t want her there so she does it all over again and leaves her? or (2) Finds child dead, says “Oops! I’ll have to clean up this mess tomorrow.”
Leaving a child in that situation IS a kind of intent according to the law as I understand it.
Even if it isn’t, is there anything even remotely understandable about that nevermind excusable?
I don’t think the duct tape has anything to do with the nanny story. Although she did research the particulars of murder and missing children, I don’t think she ever really got her plan together, much like she never got her life together.
So, I think the duct tape was intergral to the murder or was done for some other reason that is intricately linked to the disposal. Everything else was made up after - perhaps because the tape made her think of a kidnapping. But I think the only reason Zanny is in the pic at all is because Zanny was a longtime lie told to Cindy. So when Cindy freaked out, even though it had been more than a month, all Casey could think of was Zanny did it. If you listen to her first taped interview, you can tell from the stories repeated by the cops from the previous evening that nothing she said held together in anyway. And as the interview progresses, you can tell she is making up new lies on the spot under pressure.
I truly believe that she had gotten away with so much in her life, she felt all authority figures were as dumb as Cindy and since thinking quick on her feet always worked with her mom, she stuck with the same procedure for the police, which was why they saw through it immediately.
lol yah think CA said it, reading back, but yah i mean i know shes going away thats enough for me, to know her life is over is enough because caylees is over too, M got 22 years of life caylee got 2… robbed of all life had to offer and give her.. so i will be happy to know m serves at the bare minimum… life…
death penalty if it doesn’t happen to know m is in prison suffering without our freedoms and all that she craved is enough that alone will drive her insane in prison. i picture her to be like clawing her way out, trying to use ice picks to escape lol… she’ll no doubt become a lesbian because of her sex longings, and the thought of tony and her life before all going on will drive her mad…thats enough for me… caylee could still be here… so, this is the punishment she’ll take, maybe for some it wont be enough, but life behind bars is horrid…a wasting time until u die in there, no contact with loved ones, no sandy beaches, no candlelight dinners, marriage, etc you get the idea..lol life all the wonders of life…
C~A,
Baez is protecting her. He thought if there was no body, Casey could be acquitted. No need to go for a lesser charge. Now there are remained, I’m sure he is doing everything possible to wiggle out his way out of this one. If it was found earlier, he would be jumping all over that “partial acquittal.” It’s going to be interesting how it unfolds.
I think she was just stupid and had no thought out plan, nope, I think she acted as she went and in the tapes talked of her story…until questioned, then she gets the story all messed up. shes a stupid girl…
Mytwocents, EXACTLY!
Pammy - so you think that she killed caylee intentionally and then put duct tape around her head “after” she died? Why would she do such a thorough job if the baby was not alive to protest such an act?
I mean why “handle” your dead child for any length of time…but to go to that extent of roudn and round her head….??? If she was wanting to make it look like a kidnapping why would there be no duct tape reported on the wrists or hands? And I said earlier as well as paw…duct tape does not prove kidnapping or make it look like it was necessarily someone else?
Yes, a nursing home employee is on the Pros. witness list. I think the 6/9 date wasn’t intentially misleading. Just so much going on, got date wrong. Can’t stand the Ants but don’t see wrong date being big deal.
highcell - the partial immunity was offered, I am sure, as a deal where she’d tell where the body was. The deal was that nothing she SAID would be held against her. But I guess whatever they found - the remains etc - could be used as evidence. So the time to have taken advantage of the limited immunity was before the body was discovered. It won’t be offered again. M has nothing at all to bargain with.
Pammy, M did not call the police after 31 days, remember it was her mother. She told no one of any script she said she was handed to tell LE for a 31 day kidnapper getaway either unless the Script was go party and pretend nothing has happened, in which case she could get an academy award next to her mother of the year award.
I think the Zanny story was a spontaneous one when she was cornered by c because it was not at all thought out. She fully expected she could lie to everyone for years about Caylee’s whereabouts, until she claimed that the child ran away as a teenager.
lve2bgran - SE Texas, exactly where Ike visited–he came right through my town! I’ve enjoyed reading your comments and glad you have joined the blog.
Minnie - No, you’re not coming across as angry; your comments show the same passionate, caring person we’ve known all along!
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I’ve decided to stay out of this discussion. I love a good debate, but they consist of actual discussion instead of someone just putting forth their opinion (over & over) with nothing to back it up. They also, most importantly, include discussion of points the other side puts forth. This isn’t happening here!
One side is offering very specific details to back up the opinion, while the other side ignores every single point and merely resates ad nauseum his/her general idea, with no details to back up said opinion.
Everyone is entitled to his and her own opinion, and yes, without having to offer details to back up the opinion. But if he/she doesn’t offer details and is not interested in addressing the other side’s points, then what is there to discuss? Nothing!!
So, I’m going to simply respectfully agree to disagree.
I’ll be back later, when this passes …
Highcell “Exactly” what? Sorry I do not understand. It still screams “intent” to me.
Have to go for a bit but please leave your response. I will look for it when I return.
well… I think she did the duct tape to make the whole nanny story look legit… she had to know body would be found when she whipped her so close to home… she made it like someone the nanny took her and did this. yes thats what I think.. i know M killed her but she did the covering up, i think she was stupid and had no well thought out plan.. she killed her with chloroform, (not sure yet if I am pre med or not).. so bear with me…lol
then when G went to get gas gans she may then have done the duct tape…
i am kind of with the leonard theory about the staging of the crime….
i do know shes stupid and messed it all up, she thought invesitagators were stupid she was smarter…
ty C~A & Pammy, didn’t mean to hit & run but my husband doesn’t know where I keep his clothes
then again…lol
let me throw this out there, I have heard 2 differing reports on the duct tape over the mouth , was there really? I heard yes then no.. but yes around end of bag, ok then she must have used tape to seal or tie up bag… until its conclusive about the tape over the mouth then i can study that .lol but i did hera two conflicting reports on that.. and the med examiner did say no flesh or tissue so i wonder what the tape stuck to?
thanks texas…
im gona go for awhile too guys..i dont get to be here with yous too much but im gettin realy p**sed and annoyed with the accident theory…
so il try get back latersssss….
PLEASE! ITS JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE.
xxxx.caylee.xxxxx
mytwocents-The Original said,in December 29th, 2008 at 5:01 pm highcell - the partial immunity was offered, I am sure, as a deal where she’d tell where the body was. The deal was that nothing she SAID would be held against her. But I guess whatever they found - the remains etc - could be used as evidence. So the time to have taken advantage of the limited immunity was before the body was discovered. It won’t be offered again. M has nothing at all to bargain with.
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exactly - the other thing you reminded me of is that M was told anything found at the scene coudl be used against her…she didn’t take the immunity cause she knew that leading them to the body would lead them to the evidence they eventually found that would link back to the house….that’s why she didn’t take it…she would be sinkin her own ship..so she figured she had a better shot at going to trial with hopes they didn’t find the body…
NOW I HAVE A QUESTION ABOUT DOUBLE JEORPARDY!
Let’s just say bozo wanted a speedy trial and it went ahead in jan. 5th and they didn’t find the body yet….let’s say she is convicted on the forensics they had….and goes to jail convicted say of manslaughter….
then they find the body, but trial is over, she would not be able to be charged with first degree again right? Cause that is the original charge….so would she be gettin away with murder if Kronk didn’t find the body before trial? With a way lighter sentence even if they found proof positive she killed her premeditated?
Pammy, you and I are about at the same place as far as what we believe. I’m having a hard time with it being her intended actions. But yea, I agree. I think she was going to leave town (Jacksonville)within a week.
I do see the June 9th date as a big deal.
If only one of the Ants had given this date…no big deal.
If this date had only been given once, at an initial interview when emotions were running high and you just found out your granddaughter was missing and thought kidnapped, again, no big deal.
But for three individuals to give the same date, when all three knew of the trip to grandpas and one was even there, for this date to be given until evidence that proved otherwise (this is important, they would never have changed their story if the tape had not shown that Cindy was there) while you are trying to give info to find your missing granddaughter….none of that adds up. There is more there than the cops are telling us. You add in the fact that Cindy intentionally gave the wrong hairbrush, Lee is talking in code to Casey, and George is lying his pants off to try not to be found out for losing a bunch of money……there is something more to this date than just confusion.
I don’t know how she could possibly think that body would not be found, i still say someone helped moved the body later.. JMO all just my opinions. I am with the rest of you always on all your posts.. but some i have trouble with too.. I am stubborn
but the body being so close i just shake my head at all the places she could have disposed of it… to make it never found, thats why i think someone dug it up
and i also state some reservations because of the flurry of phone calls to her mom and dad on the day they think it happened… even LE said that too way back when.. they said they thought she tried to call someone… anyone else remeber this?
CA, double jeorpady, exactly…
The question then becomes, why did Jose ask for an extension before he knew the body was found? A speedy trial was in her interest at the time, but his delay played right into the prosecutors hands as they would have requested it after IDing the body.
CA,
There was a flurry of phone calls to Cindy, George, and Lee, but no one answered, which is when Paddy thinks she panicked and decided to cover everything up….he bases this on a drowning theory.
pammyliz, watching the talk shows, one “expert psychologist” had mentioned, according to studies - women who suffer from social personality disorder, they tend to dispose of their children’s bodies within a five mile radius of where they live.
spacely - your last post is all things we have seen going on seperatly…with each individual…when you put it like that it makes you think how way off we could be in what really went on…except of course of the fact that the baby is dead at the hand of maggot…but what else was really going on? I can’t wait for answers….
trying to follow logic on accident theory: if I understand others correctly…
duct tape was done after death by casey to suggest kidnap style death by nanny
chloroform, neck breaking search was for considering killing parents.
but what about search of missing children website prior to child’s death, if accidental?
space - Paddy runs with scissors….doesn’t explain her sittin in jail taking a murder rap!
drowning theory?
highcell
and that makes me wonder even further why? what is the concept behind that study? Boggles the mind…
I dont know this case makes me nuts none of us have the 100 perecnet answer we are all logical and draw a conclusion to what went on. and from media reports, until trial maybe some of our questions will be answered…
highcell what do you think of baez stating when it all comes out we’ll all understand?? what do you think he means?
ca-lol lol on the scissors remark lol
ca-lol lol on the scissors remark lol
Pammy, I remember him saying that and wondering the same thing. That was before the DNA results came back and she came up with another story of a relative blackmailing her. Like many people have said, hopefully will learn more once the trial starts.
early on a drowning theory was tossed around, UNTIL the chloroform showed up in the trunk, leaonard padilla has a theory of accidental detah by overdose of chloroform.. maybe a rag left in trunk too much, then a staging of evidence… to point towards nanny… and he has other ideas too….i cant get past web searches either ( points to pre med) so then i get all messed up again and back to square one
with any of my theories… i think only M knows what truly happened.
space - I think askin for the extension was based on planting more doubt…more caylee sightings…maybe maggot thought Lv took care of the bag? I dunno…seemed stupid anyway..you would think he would want the trial done and over before anyone could find her?
relative blackmailing her? Maybe i somehow missed this?
CA,
I don’t have a very high personal opinion of Paddy, so I don’t think much of his theories either.
However, there was a flurry of phone calls, that is fact. There is something significant about that flurry, but I don’t know what it is.
Hichcell - the drowning theory is that Caylee loved to swim in the new Ant pool, Casey left the ladder down, sent Caylee out to play, oops, she drowned……or that she intentionally drowned Caylee and this was the cover story…….I think that part is all in Paddy’s mind. He, too, has problems believing Casey could kill her own child.
and i know shes responsible for caylees death , certain about that part hung up on some things, i think we all are at times… too much comes out now with the new lee thing, possible charges again scratching my head…
she came up with another story of a relative blackmailing her ***********
when did this happen…what is this about?
IMO she will never be exonnerated of the charges.. that I still believe strongly… I think her defense team has a job ahead of them and its loking pretty futile and useless at this point.
yah i missed this one CA????? how could I miss this one???
pammy I never heard of it….i thought we were up on any new developments…wonder which family member and when she said this?
This would be story number what?? 3 …she is such a lying idiot! SLAPS MAGS ACROSS THE FACE AND EXTRACTS HER TEETH ONE BY ONE!
Jose is just blowing hot air when he says we will all understand….just part of his mis n dis information game.
His problem is he wants to be on the talk shows, but he has nothing to say. He can’t say he is a defense lawyer and can’t talk about it, because I guarantee he is getting paid for the appearances and they make sure you are going to answer something before booking you. So, he concocted this paulharveyrestofthestory bs so that he can seem to leave bits and pieces out for the public, yet not say anything.
My real problem with Jose is not that he is so sleazy (you expect that in a defense lawyer), but that he does such a bad job at it that his lies are blatant and is so obviously connected to this case for personal gain.
I again ask, who is footing the bill for this until the case is over? Its not Jose, he doesnt have those kind of funds? Who is paying Jose?
LMAO at you C-A
I did not hear this i thought i missed it highcell come back and tell us this one cause I didn’t hear this…
mtc always has it all too…
paging MTC paging MTC??
He, too, has problems believing Casey could kill her own child.
We all have a hard time with that, doesn’t mean we should run with scissors…LMAO
lmao
i dont have such a hard time believeing she killed her.. i get hung up on the “whys’ more than anything being a mom of a girl same age.. I mean why murder? killing? chloroforming? thats hard for me to fathom…
and C-A we havent seen paddy lately maybe hes on holiday with fam but NG ahsb’t spotlighted him much, he pretty much says accidental…
highcell said,
in December 29th, 2008 at 4:15 pm
C~A, google it..but it is the one about a precious angle coming and leaving expectantly..
Actually that was a blog that Cindy wrote about Caylee and Maggot never made such a comment. What she had on her myspace was the everbody lies every body dies etc.
Click on the image its what the words around it say and it is clear it is Cindys blog.
http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/07/31/deleted-comments-from-cindy-casey-anthony-on-myspace/
The image of her blog that was deleted:
http://cayleeanthony.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cindy-anthony-deleted-myspace.jpg
Do any of you remember the Danielle VanDam case? Her murderer David Westerfield was being offered a plea deal if he would give them the location of the body. Fortunately for the prosecution her body was found while they were discussing the plea. The defense attorney knew the man was guilty and went on defending him like a innocent lamb.
Now little Caylee’s body has been found, I fear defense attorneys will still be behind her 100% ,all in the name of “fair trial”
I know she (M.) will finally put on a show with tears and sobs, because NOW it’s her life on the line.
highcell said
Pammy, I remember him saying that and wondering the same thing. That was before the DNA results came back and she came up with another story of a relative blackmailing her. Like many people have said, hopefully will learn more once the trial starts.
Please elaborate on blackmail story
i can’t remember what he got for sentence??? mimi??
paddy has been behind the scenes if there at all! I want to know bout his poly? I think he is done, now that baby is found!
finding it hard to believe that she killed her child is as much of a denial as c and g…
where is BB’s pic of the nanny he had back in Oct?? I agree Spacely, he is just filling heads w/ nonsense & as long as u don’t validate the info it remains. I think of what the FBI told C about needing to unravel the ‘mistruths’ cuz ur mind is like a blackboard & if it’s full of wrong info it has no room for right info.
I do have to say the blog Cindy wrote is VERY telling. No wonder she deleted it.
on wftv, shaeffer, legal analyst saidthat the search casey did for episode of one tree hill episode where nanny kidnaps child, is the one piece of evidence that suggest premeditation.
yah haven’t seen paddy at all… so many players in this case but still wanna know more about the blackmail story, if it even matters at this point LOL..which I doubt, I know we getall so emotional about our little caylee.. lets just hang on until trial, see what they have on her, I only hope for our sakes there isnt worse than what we already know she did to caylee.. I dont think i can take anymore than I know now anyways,
going to go to mc’ds for dinner lol..taking the
easy way tonight.. my house is in another wrecked state…lol
BBL
Shan said,in December 29th, 2008 at 5:45 pm I do have to say the blog Cindy wrote is VERY telling. No wonder she deleted it.
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Are you talking about the myspace page where she types her heart out on all the things she has done for mags and caylee and how she got nothing in return? good thing LE has a copy of how she really feels…why would she delete it?….oops…don’t want anyone to know the truth sindy
C~A yep
this one:
http://cayleeanthony.files.wordpress.com/2008/09/cindy-anthony-deleted-myspace.jpg
pammy - my house is always in a wreck and I hate it…never ending clean up clean up…everybody everhwhere….seems its only me>>> ;(
I will warn you what we already know is prob. not the worst of it!
enjoy your dinner pammy and liz
I’m prepared to hear much worse…all the stuff le is NOT talkin about..it doesn’t start and end with chlorie….
C-A If I had a dollar everytime i pick a toy or doll shoe or piece of something off the living room floor. I would be rich… i tell you, my girl has a daycare in my living room, all so we can be together all the time
now with xmas she got a TENT a big barbie ship, on my couch are about 8-9 dolls, stuffed toys all sitting on the couch i cant even sit on my own couch!!! 
lol.. she has a beautiful dora the explorer room to herself and WILL NOT play in it… nope my living room is her room…
yep i do the easy way mc’ds is easy…lol
i agree C-a i think theres more were going to be very disgusted about when we hear it… i pray its not worst but i guess unless we hear it we won’t know
bbl
pammy - kids! They are not stupid! You are her life and she wants no part of missin out on anything her mama is doing!
dang, take her for breaky too…hope its a mcd’s with a playroom!
Tonight, we’ll put the case together starting from the very first hours of this mystery, back weeks ago when we talked to the missing child’s grandparents who believed fervently that the child was alive and in danger from unknown kidnappers.
George Anthony: She was threatened. Caylee was threatened. So are we.
And you’ll hear from Casey herself… Her story in her own words.
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The info above was from Dateline, Dec. 12. They were rehashing. Found a little bit of stuff about blackmailing - but it was from blogging sites.
Dont’t think any “threats” or “blackmail” stuff really an issue now — it’s all a lie anyway.
capy,
yea, I was trying to find the article about her saying she was being blackmailed by relative, but unfortunately I haven’t be able to find it.
and yes, it’s another lie
was prob. dismissed as another lie…
k, I am going to put babies to bed, be back in a bit!
Well, BOBO is at it again. He is now filing a new motion that would not permit MR.Casey who worked as a PI for the Anthony’s to speak about anything that he might have learned from the Baez team…since he worked for them prior to working for the Ants. Oh what a tangled Web we weave when we practice to deceive!!
Also there is a story on WESH.COM about the prosecutors will be making the Ants testify to knowledge that will probably serve to convict M. They further stated that if the Ants are not trutchful and forthcoming,charges may be brought against them. YAHOO GO LE TEAM!!!
The Wheels are in motion again.
saluk - that sounds to me like the ants aren’t getting their immunity?…
that’s says to me that they have more then enough to convict that bitch and c and g can kiss their immunity goodbye…..
I think George and Cindy will help convict her.
Jane Valez Mitchell just interviewed Lee’s atty. Some defense guy took video of site where Caylee was found, and no bag was there. LE is investigating. NG should be good tonight.
One woman said off camera Wednesday that she was part of a Texas Equusearch team that scoured this area. She claims to have photographic evidence that proves the remains were not there when they searched. Investigators reviewed the photos and took her statement.
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maybe this is Lv’s involvment…having her say that and that fact that LE cleared the area back in the summer do to the cadaver dogs not even finding the remains, means the body might not have been there all along, but maybe once it was searched, LV put the body there thinking it was cleared! Maybe when the first call from the meter guy came in LV knew it was the baby, went and moved her…and then put her back?
NG?
love ~ we were both commenting on the same exact subject from diff. sources at same time… wow! that is cool!
highcell - oh come on…you don’t know nancy grace…she has been on this case full force for 5 months…alot of times dedicating the whole hour to it!
I hope your right about c and g as it looks, they have no choice to tell what they know. since they asked for immunity and le doesn’t seem to need their testimony for many reasons…including they know what they have covered, if they don’t tell the truth they will be sharing the same house as their daughter..once again…
only the house they share is way bigger…lmao
Some defense guy took video of site where Caylee was found, and no bag was there.
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doesnt that sound fishy in itself…someone from the defence vidoes the exact area?
C~A, LOL.. Like that!
BLOODY HELL!!! And I do not swear very often. Now the Ants are trying to say that their PI took video in November in the area where Caylee was found and they state that there was no body there. First of all what the hell was he doing videotaping the area? Did the Ants plant the body after that point, just in case the body was found later they could say…SEE THERE WAS NO BODY!!!
PLease please please LE put a stop to these folks**** It was also being inferred that the meter reader is involved. I am dreadfully upset.
I thought that area of woods was under water in Nov. which was why Equusearch said they could not get in there. If so, then how could a video of water prove she wasn’t there? she’d be under the water? If there was a video with no water then why wssn’t the area searched by Equusearch in Nov.? this is making no sense.
sounds more and more like the defense and lv got something cookin ….if mags was in the slammer when the vid from the “defense guy’ was taken…and then the bag is there with her remains…seems lv is trying to help sister alot more then we thought, conspiracy to conceal a dead body and obstructing justice…has to inside help…bro lee put the body there after the search…but not before defense videos of the area to “prove” it wasn’t there before….omfg….are these scary people or what? No way defense would take vid. of exact area without knowing there is a plan to get mags off and knowing the body would then be put there….making it look like m is innocent…only she is not….and lv is involved.
lv knew kronk called in a tip…moved body…put it back but not before tellin def. to vid. the area to say it was never there but it was….LEE ANTHONY IS IN WAY OVER HIS HEAD
C~A I was just going to comment on that this family is crazy! Now why would they have someone film the area Caylee was found before she was found? AH!I can’t wait for the day ALL the Ants get locked up! I’m sure G or C will end up turning on each other SOON!
Sorry it seems like my rant was a bit late…I guess all of you got there before me.
At any rate poor Kronk should get the REWARD money. Without him this Circus could be having
not enough elephants in the 3 ring circus.
SALUK - THIS IS JUST NUTS! I AM GETTIN PRETTY WORKED UP TOO! WHY WOULD THEY (ANTS PI) OR ANY DEFENSE BE IN THAT AREA AT ALL? IT’S SO SICKENING RIGHT NOW i CAN’T STAND IT! I JUST WANT TO TAKE THE WHOLE DAMN BUNCH OF THEM AND
“GREEN MILE STYLE” WHEN WILL IT EVER END? THERE ARE WAY MORE PEEPS INVOLVED IN THIS THEN THE ANTS…I WAS GONNA QUESTION ABOUT METER GUY AND BIT MY LIP…DON’T WANNA BELIEVE IT…BUT DAMN IT WHO CAN WE BELIEVE? I JUST FEEL IN MY GUT LEE IS PART OF THE WHOLE PLAN TO PROVE MAGS INNOCENT CAUSE HE’S IN LOVE WITH HER…I DON’T NOT BELIEVE SHE IS HIS 100% BIO AND HE WILL DO ANYTHING FOR HER!
Hello Everyone!
BIO SIBLINGS THAT IS….
Cop called in on JVM saying the thinks the meter reader needs to be investigated THOROUGHLY. Cop seems to think the guy’s fishy.
WHATEVER ALL THIS CRAP ABOUT BODY BEING THERE OR NOT DOESNT’ CHANGE THE EVIDENCE ABOUT MAG KILLIN BABY…JUST MEANS SOMEONE ELSE IS GOING TO PRISON!@
I just can’t wait until the FBI releases it’s findings.. will be pretty interesting to hear what the ant’s have to say about Momsters finger prints on the duck tape.
WHATEVER ALL THIS CRAP ABOUT BODY BEING THERE OR NOT DOESNT’ CHANGE THE EVIDENCE ABOUT MAG KILLIN BABY…JUST MEANS SOMEONE ELSE IS GOING TO PRISON!@
ALSO, I WOULDN’T PUT IT PAST LV TO SOMEHOW PAY THIS KRONK GUY TO CALL IN A SUSPICIOUS BAG THAT WASNT’ THERE….HIS SCRIPT WOULD BE TO DO THAT HAVE LE CLEAR THE SIGHT AND FOR HIM TO PLACE THE BAG BACK AND CALL IT IN ….SETTING LE UP FOR MISCONDUCT AND PLANTIN DOUBT….I DUNNO…MY HEAD IS SPINNING ON THIS ONE…
Amy said,in December 29th, 2008 at 7:42 pm I just can’t wait until the FBI releases it’s findings.. will be pretty interesting to hear what the ant’s have to say about Momsters finger prints on the duck tape
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hI AMY…WHAT ABOUT THIS? Why would they say anything about f prints on the tape? what would they know about that….did they find prints?
I haven’t heard any conf. of the finger prints. However, I did hear that the tape is very reliable in terms on transfering f.prints. Which maybe very handy for the pros. attnys to have.
I think the report about the PI and him taping the area in November is pretty clear on wftv.com
Looks like the defense was figuring out where the remains were back in November! While still spouting about the kidnapping zanny! No wonder bb doesn’t want the guy to talk. I don’t think he can prevent it though. Only conversations between a client and attorney are privileged. If a third party is present that negates the privilege. And there is no privilege as far as I know for defense strategies and discussions!
BB was trying to pull a fast one - liar, hideous scumbag liar! And he’s been caught.
Yes. What exactly was the investigator doing in that area in November? Maybe the investigator moved the bag!
M tells bb where remains are. OR BB hears about Kronk’s tip and finds out it is true and has investigator move the bag then video tape that it’s not there.
i am truly being sickened right now! if the rest was not enough…i think I am hitting my bullshit limit right about now!
PIIIIIIIIICCKKKLES! WHERE ARE YOU ! C~A NEEDS YOUR WORDS…
Are you guys watching what they are saying on NG tonight!
They are saying that clues are /were found in the closet in the Ant’s house..
does it seem that Lee’s hair is turning really grey?
Anyone know if C&G were granted immunity?
SEE…NEW THEORIES ONCE AGAIN…I KNEW LEE WAS IN THIS UP TO HIS F’ING NECK….FLUCK YOU F’ING ASSOLES…DAMN I AM SO SICK OF THIS…BUT WILL NEVER LEAVE UNTIL I HAVE ANSWERS!
You’re probably right, C~A.
If they’ve been lying, then, eventually, the truth will come out.
NOW MR.CASEY WHO USED TO WORK FOR DEF. BUT IS NOW WORKING FOR ANTS..( THOUGHT HE WORKED AS ANTS PI A LONG TIME AGO) IS BEING SQUASHED BY BOZO AS TO NOT RELEASE ANY PRIVELEGED INFORMATION….BUT IF YOUR CLIENT IS INNOCENT C SUCKA! WHAT THE FLCOK DO YA CARE WHAT HE SAYS….WHOLLY OL FLOCK…I AM FLIPPIN ON ALL THIS RIGHT NOW…PICKLESS…..DAMN IT WHERE ARE YOU….
Remember last week when Nancy Grace (?) was questioning Jesse Grund (Casey’s ex-fiance) about why they broke up?
Jesse said they broke up because Casey was jealous & thought Jesse loved Caylee more than he loved her.
I think Casey felt her parents loved Caylee more & that’s the real reason she resented that baby. If it was just a question of not wanting to be stuck taking care of Caylee, she would have left Caylee at her folks home & moved out & did her own thing. Getting rid of her competition was her only objective and we saw how happy she was when her parents visited her in jail & she starts describing how wonderful everything will be when she’s finally back at home again & the family is together.
And we know from Leonard P. that when she was out on bail, her family all acted as if it was some happy occasion and they didn’t have a care in the world.
C~A, MY POINT EXACTLY!! Just like Baez wrote in a letter to the S.O.
http://www.wftv.com/download/2008/0721/16943570.pdf
Using deductive reasoning, you can conclude Baez believes his client is guilty.
C~A, I know how it feels to be angry about this circus. Are you upset at me?
It sure sounds like a major conflict of interest for an atty. to switch from the Casey team to the Anthony team.
Could Casey’s defense be laying the groundwork for an appeal…. later claim atty. Casey disclosed something he shouldn’t have & this hurt Casey’s case?
Baez also has to know Casey’s parents think he’s a terrible lawyer & they’re not happy placing their daughter’s life in his incompetent hands.
AMY - ABSOLUTLEY NOT… I am not angry at you I am so angry at all these new twists it’s making me insane…. ((((( hugs ))))))))))
“Using deductive reasoning, you can conclude Baez believes his client is guilty.”
But highcell, after the trial Baez begins will finally hear the FULL story & stop believing she’s guilty. lol
LI_Mom, very interesting. I wonder if she somehow can’t change attny’s because she already signed her movie deal rights off to BB., and no one else want’s the case without getting a part of the pie.
I am reading back through my ranting, I don’t see how you would think i was angry with you…but whatever…not in the least…you never said anything to upset me…it’s all good girl…I’m just having a meltdown ….it’s ok..
Oh, whew, I’m so glad C~A.
I agree.. I’m just watching NG right now, and I had no idea about this PI stuff..
Ya’ll check out this website:
http://www.tcbwebs.com/WhosWho.htm
what is really disturbing is that this is all their real information.
There are even more sites with At&t logins..
Why would Lee submit his DNA..?
Amy, let’s just hope the public is just as outspoken with disgust IF any of the Anthonys try to profit from Caylee’s death as they were when OJ tried to publish his book.
IMO, they ALL knew Casey was UNFIT to take care of even her own life, let alone an innocent baby and they did NOTHING to protect Caylee.
It’s bad enough they did nothing to protect Caylee up until June 15 but the fact that they did NOTHING for a full month to insure Caylee was safe AFTER Casey suddenly ran away with this baby… is beyond disgusting.
In early July, Cindy writes on MySpace that she’s worried about who’s taking care of Caylee since she knows Casey has no money & nowhere to live. And her husband’s an ex-cop & that’s the ONLY action these idiots can think to take to protect a baby…. whine on MySpace? Pathetic. All of them.
oops.. I meant to say, why wouldn’t he voulenteer it!
amy - you mean why wouldn’t he? Cause he is a cocky arrogant bast@#$ just like his sister and he knows alot more then what he is wiling to share..
if you meant why would he? Cause he was made to via a search warrant cause HE WASN’T CO-OPERATING WITH LE CONTARARY TO HIS LAWYERS LYING MOUTH…(SLAPS HIS FACE TOO!)
BBL
PERPER JUST SAID CAYLEE DIED WITH THE TAPE ON HER MOUTH… HIS OPINION.. (TEARS)…IT’S ONE THING TO THINK IT AND IT ANOTHER TO HEAR AN EXPERT SAY IT TO BE PROBABLEY TRUE…
Amy, a better question is why WOULDN’T a family member submit dna or fingerprints?
I can understand why some people might be nervous about polygraphs since they are NOT 100% accurate but what would a family member hope to accomplish by not cooperating fully with a forensic investigation?
I think I sprained my finger, scrolling! =0)
LImom - you got it! 100% on the ball! These idiots spent an entire month not doing a god damn thing about making sure caylee was ok…they are a huge part of the reason caylee is dead!
Have I missed any new and worth-while developments with the case of the case of the case of casey slapmeonapole anthony?
C~A, I don’t like this guy Perper. He never really answers a question clearly.
IMO, there IS a (slim) possible reason why Casey might use tape AFTER Caylee is already dead…. to keep body fluids from leaking out of her mouth OR maybe there was already insect activity in her mouth?
We’ll have to wait & see exactly WHAT areas the tape was covering (just the mouth or maybe more?) and we’ll have to see what forensic evidence was found on the tape.
Another reason to use duct tape on the mouth….
To make it look like someone kidnapped Caylee…wanted to make it look like a typical kidnapping. She kills Caylee…sets it up to make it look like someone took her, duct tape her mouth, beat her, then dump the dead or almost dead body somewhere.
Tera, nothing new that I heard. Just noise about Lee.
C-A, they did nothing for TWO YEARS that Caylee was alive to even take it upon themselves to hire a REAL nanny for the child instead of playing along with Casey’s fantasy that she had a job & that Caylee was being watched by some make-believe nanny. Why should we be at all surprised that they did nothing for one more month????
perper although is very vague and unemotinal or seems to lack interest..is held highly in the field of examiners….he bugs me and he is very uhm…slow to speak..and it’s irritating…but I believe he is worthy of whatever he does say…
I will never believe maggot could handle her dead childs body after the fact to cover up anything she did to look like it might be someone else…once she was dead, i think mags dumped her asap….she wasn’t foolin around duct taping her as an after thought…no way
Makes one wonder if they would have found post mortem damage on the body if the body wasnt disposed of in a flooded and was a bit um preserved (dry and dark area) leaving tissue behind.
Tera, I don’t know. Why don’t you sprain your other finger and let us know everything you know so we can tell if you don’t know something we do. Cause we know lots about case but nothing about you so how can we know what you know and if what you think its new but we don’t or if it is new but you already know, but maybe you don’t know but it is difficult to tell. Did I miss anything?
hi all~ anything new havent had time to read
uh…boy
I can’t type for squat tonight. Here’s what I meant…
Makes one wonder if they would have found post-mortem damage on the body making things look worse than what they were to make a kidnapping story more believeable…
I can’t spell either!
Lmao…Yes you did miss something Beast… I just don’t know what.
But I have expressed what I do know and don’t know if you know what I mean…I don’t know though if it is possible to go back and state what I do know. I don’t know.
What I do know is….
They need to get their butts moving and get her ass convicted or murder. Maggot is guilty. Doesn’t matter anymore HOW she did it..just that she did it and she needs to buurn!
evidence in the closet, I presume would be dirt on a shoe/boot, matching the type of dirt found in the woods would be a way to implicate her.
Let’s see… my daughter breaks up with her fiance because she doesn’t like that her boyfriend loves Caylee so much.
Daughter has NO JOB. NO NANNY. Lies. Steals. I’m locking up gas cans because she can’t be trusted. Caused me to call police to the house on numerous occasions. Drinks too much and dropped all her OLD friends and is now with a totally new group of people. I’ve been advised to seek full custody of the baby & I’m having loud & violent fights with this overgrown brat.
Oh yeah. No reason at all for me to be concerned that she might not be competent to take care of a young child. Nah. This SOCIOPATH is “mother of the year” material according to Caylee’s own family.
Let’s just wait a month or so and see what happens. *rolls eyes*
night…do you not think that c would have cleaned up all possible links to m and her things..??? I mean the way she has been acting seems to me she would to any length to deny the child was killed and that m did it…she did things along the way with the pants and the hairbrush to make you thin that she would have gone through mags things like a cadaver dog and cleaned up with her BRAWNEY!
I read today that LE found evidence in the closet on the most recent trip to Anthony home. And last week evidence found at scene connected to evidence at the scene. Dirt could be microscopic in size and C not knowing which shoes to clean. I’m sure she had many.
LI - you put it so simply and is so true…c and g dropped the ball on this baby way before she allowed this maggot to walk off with her after such a huge fight and the advise to kick her out…i said the other night c should have, given all we know, if she cared at all about caylee, said to m on jUne 15…you take caylee out of this house over my dead body…she allowed such a mnaipulating loser who she already knew was incapable of caring for the child under good circumstances, to take the child out of the house under such stressful argumentative circumstances where c even choked her….AND SHE ALLOWED BABY TO BE OUT OF HER SIGHT…IN THE NIGTH WHEN SHE SHOULD HAVE BEEN IN BED????
C SHOUDL HAVE CALLED COPS….COULD HAVE CHANGED EVERYTHING…SHE DIDN’T PROTECT THAT BABY…NOBODY IN THAT DAMN FAMILY PROTECTED CAYLEE WHEN SHE NEED IT THE MOST…DAMN THEM ALL TO A LIFE OF MISERY…AND PAIN…FOR HOW THEY LET THAT BABY DOWN…
C-A, I also think Perper is very competent, I just don’t think he’s a great guest for a call in show.
Caller asks: IF Casey placed the tape over Caylee’s mouth right after chloroforming her could there be evidence of that on the sticky tape?
Perper: If they find evidence of that, then yes it’s possible.
Well…… DUH! lol
For the record, I also think she placed the tape on Caylee almost immediately. I’m just saying I suppose it’s possible there could be reasons she didn’t.
CA, I finally read most of the posts. The PI is full of shit because one of the teenage kids or however old he was said that the water finally went down 1-2 weeks prior to his interview. Which would have made it the last week of November-1st week of December. The PI is also capable of dubbing the dates and times on his video camera.
oops meant evidence at home to evidence at the scene.
perper is perlexing to say the least..he is irritating by means of his simplicity and doesnt’ seem to even want to be a guest…he is NOT a good guest I will agree with ya on that for sure…he leaves his answeres wide open to speculation and is NOT forthcoming with good and solid answers to most direct questions! He is frustrating to say the least!
hey c~a dont see pic or paw or any of the other people i was use to did they leave?? or just gone for night?? just wondering??
C-A, and we know from Lee that the last fight was a real doozy.
I think it’s clear that Cindy wasn’t going to file for custody because IF she did want to, what better action to take than to file a report and involve police when your incompetent daughter leaves with the baby.
Caylee was NEVER a valued member of that family. She was an expendable pawn.
CA, wasn’t TM going to come back to that area to search again because the water FINALLY went down around that time?
I think the whole case it botched. Let’s play screwy and let almost all evidence deteriorate and party thru the beginning of the summer…let things rot and be rotten, tell lies, stall more…tell more lies and then if I oops it up a bit that is going to be okay because by this time the heat, animals and water has destroyed most forensic evidence. Oh yes and I know this b/c being a sociopath, I’ve planned this from the beginning starting when my daddy was a cop and seeing how things roll with the half-ass job he did.
Creepy and sick all rolled into one rice sushi roll thingamabob, rotted.
guess i didnt look back far enough
Hiya Anna. I’m here. Just got here a few minutes ago. I seem to miss pickles though
as sad as it sounds i agree caylee wasnt a valued member, not one of the ants have stuck up for that child, oh yea now they are all getting att, and asking for immunity, but how about standing up to someone who abused a 2 yr old child?? in my book that comes first no matter who the abuser is!!! that child needs someone and the wway i see it the whole family ran from it, SOMEONE should have had enough heart to stand up for her NO MATTER what dirty laundry got aired!!
I wholeheartedly agree, Anna. This is a sad case where the child was just flat out a possession…not a loved part of the fam. I hate this.
Anna, I’m hoping that when it MATTERS, George will do the right thing.
We know he was brutally honest when he was questioned early on & he’s got to know he cannot possibly disown all the truthful statements he made & testify that he believes this asinine nanny fantasy alibi.
I really have no hope that Cindy will do the right thing. And I think Lee is way too angry at the world to do anything (like tell the truth!) that might possibly hurt his sicko sister.
If Caylee has one person with a conscious in her family, I think that person is her paw-paw.
imo i think c has fely so guilty for whatever happened in that fight thats why shes covered and misled or should i say LIEDalso i believe g lied about last time seing them who the heck rembers what someones wearing a month prior?? my feeling is they are all guilty of something and no one wants to get caught, in the meantime that little child suffered the dire consequences, who the hell doesnt protect a 2yr old??? WHO??? isnt that what family is for??? all this family and thier lawers are good for is spreading reasonable doubt(i wont believe) and lying, and giving le the run around so it makes it harder to get to the truth, i have faith in le they will find it as close as they can!! (sorry the actions of this family just sets me off, i find it to unreal)
paw-paw is a wimp!!!! c has the balls in that family and they all have something over one another, sad the innocent child had to suffer for it!!
paw - The area that tim said was not suitable for a search I thought was the area by the airport…the area that they finally went back to the last time… I don’t remember having heard of the area behind the anthony home at all until they found the body!
I only remember hearing about searches by the airport! That was their focus and the main area of interest due to the pings on her phone. do you remember the searches specifically being around the corner from the ants?
I just hope Lee’s girlfriend Mallory has a mother & father who warn her about getting mixed up with SUCH a dysfunctional family.
Seeing how little regard they had for their own innocent grandbaby, it’s scary to think how they would feel about or treat someone who married into their family and might not share ALL their feelings.
CA, I thought TM stated that the area by the hoe was where the 4 wheeler went under water so they backed off of that area. He stated that when they found her remains.
hi anna baby…. your feelings are same as mine…your whole post 9:46pm….totally agree… ((((( hugs )))))
LI_Mom, I concur..
Even if Anthony’s had some denial about casey being capable of killing, they had an out…they could be in denial, believe the nanny did it, and still have looked for a dead body, especially since most kidnapped kids are killed in the first 48 hrs.
but I feel strongly their not allowing any search for a dead body, speaks to their knowldege that their daughter did it; and wanted to prevent evidence being found.
The aspect of the case that compels me of any of it, is allowing a child’s body to decay in the world, and do nothing constructive, especially knowing that woods infested with snakes.
If a parent had a 1% incling that your daughter might have be capable of killing, would you not think to go look in the woods your daughter used to hang out at? the friend knew, certainly a family member.
Denial is by far NOT the word to describe the Anthony’s behavior. More likely active collusion.
I also think a better attorney would have gotten her to plead early on, direct them to the body. If others have gotten hardened serial killers to do so, then so could a properly trained lawyer have gotten out of Casey.
the “hoe”?…yes he said after remains were found that he lost a 4 wheeler due to the floods…but i did not know that the search was there…behind the house…when they came back…they didn’t go there…they went to airport…so I am confused as to when he was behind the ants house where baby was found…maybe there were two searches being done simutaneously? I maybe only fixated or heard of the bigger search at the airport?
ya’ll see the article about Casey saying if she is let out she will immediately try to have another child? This girl is warped!
I think it’s hysterical that LV’s lawyer (who up to now has specialized in cases where LE has tasered people - him being on the tasered person’s side, of course) has now announced nationally that his client (LV) may be charged with serious (felony?) charges! I love it!
LE hasn’t said that! And the lawyer on NG says “NO lawyer would go on national tv to say something like that!” So probably LV really is in deep doo doo AND he has a lousy lawyer!
Great news!
And what is the ant’s PI doing right there “on the spot?” a month before the find taping? How did he know? I’d like to know how many other locations he taped and why. And why this one? If nothing was there, what was there to tape?
Very stinky fish here. All in a barrel. Just waiting for LE to shoot ‘em! LOL!
I know I am changing the subject, but I am curious if anyone else has seen “orbs” in some of the crime scene pictures? Or maybe I am imagining things?
thats what i heard the area was underwater and couldnt be searched the 4 weeler almost sunk, but i think thier mai n focus was the airport pings, i think thats where they thought was most important, does anyone wonder if roy kronk saw a bag b4 why he didnt go and inspect sooner??? says a big snake was there but he called 3 days in a row, and the last time kicked the bag, why not b4???
C-A, I’m pretty sure right after the skull was found Tim DID say they had started to search that area BUT they pulled out because it was under water.
He was afraid of disturbing/destroying any evidence.
We must assume, police took Kinomarie (sp?) very seriously when she told them Casey hung out there AND that she buried pets in that area.
The part that is most disturbing about this is how LE did not follow through when they got the tips back in August. I think it was very shoddy police work. And then the storms came.
This is from http://www.wesh.com/news/18253946/detail.html
According to Equusearch, volunteers tried to search the area, but it was underwater. When they returned, the area was blocked by a chain-link fence.
highcell: So far M has not “spoken” since being in jail this last time. So who is speaking for her supposedly saying that she’d have another child right now? What article did you see and where that said that?
marley…post the link
I see
Marley, Can you post what you see. I’m interested in taking a look at what you see.
highcell at 9:57 - post the link or source please.
Let’s hope ZFG doesn’t find a new job before then. It would be a shame if poor Casey had to invent a NEW make-believe nanny for her next “little snot.” lol
Highcell? Can you please post a link as well. I’ve NEVER seen such thing being said by Casey.
anna ya if kronk was posted in the area at time of first sighting…why would he wait until he was posted there again to check it out…why not a week after they found nothing…off duty…go and see..not 4 months later cause you now “in the area” working….doesn’t add up.
Just when you think it was safe to go back in the woods… boom, this PI (Hoover) comes up with a video showing no body at the scene where Caylee’s remains were found. Now, come on… why was he there to begin with? Baez didn’t pick up the discs of tips that LE had ready for him until two weeks ago, so he couldn’t have known about Kronk’s calls.
Now, let me get this straight… Hoover works with Dominic Casey, right? And Dominic Casey once worked for Baez, right? Now, wasn’t it Dominic Casey who said he had authentic pictures of Casey and Caylee with Zenaida in Blanchard Park and nothing ever materialized? Hmmmm… now I’m very suspicious of this video!
nightingale you have a point c was adamant about them looking for a live caylee they made fools of themselfs on national tv with the live caylee stuff even after the decomposing hair in m trunk WHY???? it makes me sick that 3 other people would just disregard a 2 yr old death after proclaming thier love for her??? there is so much more to this family, so many DARK secrets, makes you think of a family into something like porn??? who knows but WHY would they all try and cover it up??? makes me really sick to think about it…….
Marley said,in December 29th, 2008 at 10:01 pm I see
can you post the pic that ‘you see” orbs so we can see too?
MMT - bozo doesnt’ need to pick up dics to know of a conspiracy to help m get off and him win a high profile case(y) …JMO
MMT - Right , right and me too.
I think IF the video was really taken at the right spot then the info had to come from another source - like M to LV to BB to Hoover/PI Casey.
It’s also possible that the bag was moved by animals or something. Then settled a little farther away for the next month. I don’t think the bag could possibly stay in one exact spot (it could not weigh very much) through a hurricane and flood and receding waters and then animal activity over all these months. It could have been in one place for ONE month and caused the depression and dead leaves under it that Tim saw.
its sad and dissquesting to think any attorney even a defence attorny would make a mockery out of a death??? a death of anyone much less the death of a 2 yr old child!!! does anyone in this mess have any compassion??? have any heart??? OMG!!!! what a sham, i wish they could charge bb with obstruction imo i think hes making up stories to get his 15 min of fame,what a joke, i hope he looses his licence the whole lot of them, FULL INVESTIGATION!!!! poor baby never had a chance
MMT - I had not heard that BB ever picked up the disks of tips. I thought they were still there (and he still owed LE $980 for them) when the remains were found.
Who here in their right mind would not know that someone that lived in their home for 2 years straight was or was not gainfully employed? Was there never a check stub laying around, or a bank statement delivered in the mail which would have a direct deposit from place of employment? Did C or G never have to phone m at her place of employment during the past 2 years? Where was m getting money to pay for nanny, for gasoline for vehicle to get back and forth to work, to purchase clothing for herself and for child? To purchase pampers, etc.? Either the Anthony’s are all willie fufus or they think that we all are.
IMHO and has been my opinion almost since day one all of the Anthony’s are not being upfront and honest. Even George Anthony has been knowing for some time that there had been a dead body in the trunk of that car, while they professed to be looking for that little beautiful child. The first time I heard m tell Lee that she felt Caylee was close to home, my alert antennaes went up. But my alert antennaes have been up with the hearing of C’s call to the police department. Something just did not click to me.
Caylee you now have a much more beautiful sunshine with the One who loves you and no longer can it be taken away!
Come on, the guy spots something that looks suspicious & calls in a tip. He calls back.
Did the police call him back & tell him they couldn’t find it? (I highly doubt police call back on EVERY tip they receive…. they’d never get any work done.)
If not, wouldn’t he assume they found it & it simply wasn’t anything connected to a crime?
I don’t think most citizens would follow up just because they happened to find a garbage bag in the woods… not even for this type of case. There must be various junk all over the woods in remote areas.
I think it’s perfectly believable & normal that when he’s finally back in the area it stirs his memory & he goes to take another look & was probably shocked that it was STILL there.
MTC - good point but what about the depression in the mud under the bag? It would take a newly decomposing body to make that imprint. Not the skeletal remains that were found…they would have no weight whatsoever to make an imprint if bag was tossed around and moved by animals and come to rest where it was, there would of had to have been a 35lbs baby lay there from day one to make such a print!
PAW - M has had no visitors and only speaks to her lawyers as far as I know. So who would she tell that to anyway? And the jail has been totally professional about what they do and don’t say about her. It sure would be beyond stoopid for BB to quote her saying such a thing.
Katherine, and we’re also supposed to believe Casey did her own taxes without any help……. and NEVER even got a refund. lol
LI - for a man to call in a “suspicious bag” he had to have reason to believe it might be caylee….if it were you and you believe le didn’t follow up would you take 4 months to go and see? His gut instinct was that it might be her or he wouldnt have called….and then to do nothing for 4 months…seems wierd!
M2C, That’s what I was thinking too. That’s why I want to see a link of this.
CA - I’m not sure about that. Rainwater pooled on the bag can cause weight; water washing mud away from underneath it; a branch on top that later blew away. Animals crawling all over it.
I just don’t think it could have been in just one place all that time. A month yes. But five to six months?
C-A, the bag might not have been tossed around OR moved at all. Maybe the bag was torn open where it laid and the animals scattered her bones that way?
Oh I do so wish I knew what LE has on LV. I would happily walk him into jail and high-five him myself. He’s been behind the scenes mucking things up all this time. Eddie Munster is too mild a nickname for him now. Any ideas?
Who is truly evil AND sneaky?
yo marley and highcell..ya got those links for us or what?…very interested in your sources..
paw, the source isn’t credible. Orginally read that on a website and was able to google it and found it was taken from a tabloid.
here:
http://www.nationalenquirer.com/casey_anthony_another_baby/crime/63468
sorry it took so long..I get side track reading.
mmt m gives letters to bb to give to family..also i never heard that bb picked up that disk, kinda funny after she was found??? whole case and e1 is suspicous.. hm….
Katherine - Right. Plus - I don’t know when this was - but M deposited $4,000 into her parents bank account to repay them. From checks she said that universal had owed her and finally paid her. Then her mother wrote the mortgage check and it bounced - because the deposit was made but there was no money behind it! Didn’t THAT clue them into what was going on? Or did they chalk that up to M “stealing” once again but in a different “backwards” kind of way? C & G HAD to know something was seriously wrong with the job thing for a long time.
MTC - agree eddie deserves a level or 5 up on his name….not sure what though….beast says…hannibal (lecter)..
does any1 know about toxicology yet??? any prints on that tape??? omg i sure hope so, thats the way all evedince points along with familys lies, why would anyone lie if they werny guilty??? think the family is more involved thatn we think??? im really beggining to wonder if they all pplayed some part!
And those who said that Caylee never was a valued member of that family, I think you are right. Remember C used to call Caylee “M’s mistake. Her best mistake.” But still a mistake. I wish I had a little mistake like that in my life right now. I’d love her and hug her and play with her all day long. To be given a little miracle like that and throw it away. They’re all going to hell, thank heaven.
And now what little is said by the ants’ lawyer about the “private memorial” and the “public memorial” centers on the ants’ concern that no one be able to make money on it. I swear that is all the ants can think of is MONEY! G DAMN them to hell for ever.
HEY MAGGOTT….
LOCK ~N~ LOAD…WE’RE GONNA GET YA!
Night night cyber fam…. (((((((( hugs ))))))
(throws knives at pickles…)
missed ya tonight!) 
why did the whole family look the other way at what m wwas doing??? someone had to know she wasnt working??? what was really going on??? someone knew something, but why would the give caylee up??? just makes me so mad and sad!
C~A said,in December 29th, 2008 at 10:08 pm MMT - “bozo doesnt’ need to pick up dics to know of a conspiracy to help m get off and him win a high profile case.”
C~A, I tend to be a little skeptical that BB would risk being disbarred, throw away his entire career and go to jail for a client. I think he is smart enough to know how far he can go and moving the body would be more than a stupid mistake. He knows LE would be on his case quicker than a wink of an eye.
Mytwocents, I agree with your thoughts regarding the video… was it really taken at the right spot or could the water have carried the bag to another spot as the bag got lighter from decomposition leaking out. The bag could have easily floated then rested at the spot where it was discovered.
CA - Beast sure nailed the most evil character I know of. I don’t watch scary movies or TV shows. I even think of Frankenstein as funny because I’ve only seen the Mel Brooks version. LOL!
So whatever you all decide is fine with me!
OMFG From http://www.nationalenquirer.com/crime/63468
CASEY ANTHONY WANTS TO HAVE ANOTHER BABY
Monster mom Casey Anthony wants to have another baby!
That’s the shocking and bizarre revelation from those at the Orange County Jail in Orlando, Fla., where Anthony, 22, is in solitary confinement and charged with the first-degree murder of her daughter Caylee.
The 3-year-old was last seen in June, but wasn’t reported missing until July 15.
Incredibly, Casey says she wants to get pregnant right away so she can have a baby sister for Caylee when she is found, insiders told The ENQUIRER.
She’s unnerving nearly all in shouting distance of her cell or in the exercise yard when she hollers about needing to get pregnant right now for her missing daughter’s sake.
“She is clearly delusional and doesn’t accept that her daughter Caylee is dead and that she herself is the murderer,” declared a private investigator who recently visited other inmates at the jail.
“She talks about getting out of jail soon and having another baby and starting family life all over again.
“It’s scary. Casey kept saying Caylee will want a sister to play with, so it’ll be a big surprise. Nobody knows what her sicko game is. If it’s an act to convince people she really believes Caylee’s still alive, then it’s very bad theater.”
Are You Flucking Kidding ME?????????
I think it is just too coincidental that a defense PI took video of that very spot a month before. Why? Why? Why? I think something was in the works. Now maybe BB wasn’t involved. But have you seen the PI’s working for him and the ants? Bottom feeders for sure.
Now just imagine them and LV having a little talk and exchange of $. Not hard to imagine at all.
anna, that is discussed in several articles..everyone - law enforcement, Padilla, Amy, the psychologist experts, her ex boyfriends all agree that someone else knows something.
something fisshy about this vidio being taken a month prior to her being found??? to coincedental for me, the whole defence is crooked in my opinion, better cover my words so they dont sue me to or say i traveled from minnesota to florida to plant it!!! to many coincedences in this case, i think with le thet are gonna do the best they can but they have to mant FAME seekers on the defence right now, what about lee who concealed? or misplaced evedince??? what does that say about the intergrity of these people??? would you want to be assosiated with someone who was accused with that to make your name public??? they are all crooked in my opinion!!!!
MMT - however bozo is an idiot! he has made many mistakes so far and IMO could be involved! Who knows what his interest is in m in the first place, why he coddles and touches her against “the bar code of ethics”…and if he knew her before….for all we know caylee is his kid…I know …come on…right…but at this point anything is possible and all players are playing a risky game of life…even bozo possibly!
Casey was starting to get desperate once Caylee was old enough to tell her grandparents what she really did when she was with her mother.
I think the prosecution will show that Caylee started to get highly verbal back in March exactly when Casey started researching ways to solve this new problem.
I doubt she ever had a firm date in mind BUT I think it was an ultimate goal & the fight with her mother is what made her decide the day had come.
I bet the farm that Cindy lashed out & told her that she was going to get custody of Caylee.
Caylee had to die then because Cindy had to love CASEY more than she loved the little outsider.
mtc - was frankenstein truly devious and evil? If so, cause I am NOT a movie buff…then Frank is good to me…..let the blog offer up their opinions…
i think someone should invite the ant back on tv and ask the question….why wont you stand up for your grandaughter???? why dont you care about the real truth?????……why have you changed your stories so many times???……….and if it wasnt m from the start would you still be acting this way???……….and the big one WHAT THE HECK WAS M DOING ALL THE TIME SHE WAS SUPPOSE TO BE WORKING???AND YOU REALLY HAD NO CLUE SHE WASNT?????….. this whole family makes me SICK!!!!!!!
LI - yup!
OMG!!
C-A, do you even think Bozo knows HOW? lol
anna, I’m afraid at this point we are all just HOPING there are prints on the duct tape. Media has just speculated about that because it is possible that prints could adhere to it.
Except Perper the Head on NG tonight said that water could wash prints off the tape. So we don’t know a darned thing yet about tox or prints. All we sorta “know” is that something in that bag was linked directly to the ants house.
You know I”m glad the ants are having a private memorial because I hope they get pushed out of the way at the public one. Seeing them there will make me sick to my stomach. IF I was there and IF there was a hole dug in the ground for the coffin I would push them in. Except I wouldn’t because I would not want them that close to little Caylee.
I think the ants should be made to look at what’s left of Caylee. In person. Not thru a glass. No sheet. Just see her as she is now.
And all this talk of a second autopsy is BS.
There is nothing to find - certainly nothing that could help M since nothing was found that could hurt her. It’s more of BB’s whining.
AND the ants are putting off the memorial so it can be arranged to their benefit - timing etc. Probably already making deals with the media for photo opportunities. That takes time too. I can’t even think of anything bad enough to say about those people.
mytwocents-The Original said,in December 29th, 2008 at 10:10 pm “I had not heard that BB ever picked up the disks of tips. I thought they were still there (and he still owed LE $980 for them) when the remains were found.”
I could be wrong but I thought BB finally had someone pick them up just before the remains were found. Maybe I’m wrong about that.
WHAT THE HECK WAS M DOING ALL THE TIME SHE WAS SUPPOSE TO BE WORKING???AND YOU REALLY HAD NO CLUE SHE WASNT?????…..
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I really hope to get that answer! That is something that weighs on all our minds! That is where the “disgusting” part of all this that I think Nejame said will come out.
nejame knows cause c and g know which is why they let baby down which is why they want immunity! The know LOTS!
MMT - You could be right and I missed that. I sure hope he did get them and hope he PAID for them too. Right before they became totally useless to him! LOL!
the real Zanny is suing Casey for $15k
http://media.myfoxorlando.com/photogalleries/092408zenaidalawsuit/1/lg/Scan001_Page_1.htm
MTC - I HEAR YOU LOUD AND CLEAR.. ((HUGS))
The disgusting part will prolly be (drum roll) her sucking on …. That picture is still devastatingly stuck in my head.
CA - The original Frankenstein was a man- made monster and I think he did kill people in the original story. It might work. We should leave the discussio open for a while and see what others think.
BBL!
GOD I KNOW YOU ARE THERE ORE LITTLE CAYLEE WOULD STILL BE MISSING, PLEASE HEAR ALL OF US, PLEASE LET THE TRUTH COME OUT, AND ALL GUILTY PARTIES BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULL EXTENT!!!!PLEASE GOD DONT LET ANY OF THE GUILTY PARTIES SLEEP WELL THE REST OF THIER DAYS, PLEASE LET THEM SEE THIS ANGEL IN ALL HER GLORY IN EVERY SLEEPING MOMENT!!!! ~AMEN~~~(not trying to take your place chsah) just had to say a prayer for our caylee, its sad i feel like us total strangers have taken the place of the family we know we care, and if it was someone other than m wed want that person to be prosecuted to, its just that m is the only suspect, and all evedince points to her, and who in the heck doesnt report thier child missing right away????……….and dont forget the deecomposing hair!!!…………
SORRY …. Paw… ( bb ) ????
Anna - thanks for the prayer…we are ALL permitted to say and feel and pray…smiles at you…your allowed ….
Nejame prolly knows about her “other lifestle”.
lifestyle*
chsah - would say that and more if she were here….she’s a doll and would never feel you take away from additional prayer..
What I pray for, and say thanks for. Is the love of My life, my wife, Everyday, and we should all give thanks for what we have.
paw - ya, but has nothing to do with caylee directly…i felt the disgusting had to do with things she (((((( ok…maybe subjected caylee to)))))))….maybe…lifestyle alone I dont give a shit…but if had anything to do with caylee for sure…big no no…disgusting…yup!
I’m extremely thankful for who I have in my life.
CA, IF M was using Xanax during those times then it would be direct wouldn’t it? I dunno anymore. My brain hurts.
The FBI said there were 1,600 “disgusting” pics of the mother of the year. Real nice.
Frankly, I think she spent most of her days, shopping, hanging out at the malls or parks & anxiously waiting for her friends with REAL jobs and classes to be ready to par-tay.
Casey was a total loser & as she got older it must have become more & more apparent to her how she was headed nowhere compared to normal people.
in our hearts we know we love this little girl probably more than her own family has, if this was one of my family i wouldnt be able to bear another autopsy, having people digging at my dead childs remains AGAIN……..just shows how heartless they all are, and self serving, my family is not perfect by far(well to me they are) but im greatfull for the kind of disfunction we have, at least ours isnt EVIL….and wed stand up for someone defensless no matter who they were, especially a CHILD…………. see you tomorrow am guys(my cyber fam) love ya all…………:)
PAW you said.
Also the description she FINALLY gave of Zanny the Nanny, is that of the Zenaida who is suing her. Which is also the same one she claims isn’t her. Seems kinda odd to me. Either way, Casey killed her, and the prosecution has more than enough evidence to prove it beyond a reasonable doubt.
Think again the description she gave for Zenaida in her written statement does not describe the Z who is sueing.
How can you say that picture of a wooded overgrown area shows there is no bag and no scattered bones on the forest floor? How do you know the pic even has the exact spot the bag was on? It is like an acre of site.
Next, Jose will be telling us he knows something is fishy because the last he checked, that bag was in his trunk, so someone from the babysitter must have broke into his car and planted that evidence.
Then, Lee’s new att will tell us that even if Lee’s prints are on that duct tape, it means nuttink, nuttink.
Then, the Ants att will tell us they have no comment because they are grieving, but if anyone in the family did it, it was Lee, not pointing any fingers, but……him…..yeah…not us….
BOZOS DEFFENSE IS ABOUT AS AUTHENTIC AS HIS HAIRPIECE.
highcell is this what you were referring to:
July 4th: Cindy Anthony’s posting on Casey Anthony’s MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught
“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
“No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
NOT any Anthony!!!
They didn’t get off their butts for a whole month!!!
Talk about negligence. They should be charged with child endangerment, imo.
CHARGES FOR LEE? ITS ABOUT F`IN TIME, GUESS WHOS NEXT!
BOZO BAEZ has a fake website to go with his fake hair. check it out baezlawfirm.com, all links on this site direct to dead pages.
Katherine, something more disturbing that I found today was a picture I think they found saved to her computer with something to effect of “why do people kill people so they can teach people not to kill”..I’m going to try and find you the article… it’s sick
Katherine,
here you go:
http://i286.photobucket.com/albums/ll116/helpfindthemissing/HFTM2/Globe101308006.jpg
Dak, look at this and the picture. To me she fits the description ok.
CINDY ANTHONY: We never really got a full description of Zanny. I know she`s got brown curly hair.
CASEY ANTHONY: Shoulder length. She wears it straight.
CINDY ANTHONY: It`s curly.
CASEY ANTHONY: It`s curly, but she also wears it straight. (INAUDIBLE) it`s called a straightener. She`s the one that gave me my straightener.
CINDY ANTHONY: That`s true. OK. How tall is she?
CASEY ANTHONY: About 5, 7-ish. She`s, like, maybe an inch or two shorter than Dad, so 5-6, 5-7, very thin, maybe a little bit more meat than me, about 140-ish, fairly tan, brown eyes, no tattoos that I`ve ever seen, that I know of.
Picture of Zenaida at this site. http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail;jsessionid=5FC5CD7D9B9AEA39CE8D313E646073C2?contentId=7882988&version=2&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1&sflg=1
In this picture you can tell she colored her hair. But She has tan skin and brown eyes. She looks about 140-sh.
highcell@11:14 that pic and sayings been there from the start!! and g&c still payed no attention to the assumption or meaning of what it could possibly mean
a funny document made public record is Baez being advised to not make physical contact with his Client, Anthony.
I know that they searched somewhere near the house. Cause I went by the house and came to the end of the street. As I was turning I looked to the right and seen what looked liked investigators just down past what I now know to be the crime scene. This was just a week or 2 after. When all the searches were going on intially. Whether there was alot of water at that location I do not know, But I do know that at that time, there were many flooded areas. By looking at the crime scene now, it slumps down, which would cause you think, that yes it was flooded. But for how long??? This is Floridait rains alot. My front yard is still mushy from all the rain that occured at that time.
Anyone notice the video of woods didn’t have all the green growth that was there when body found? Look at 12/11 photos and it’s green thick growth all the way to the road. Even the LE tent is surrounded by plants. The video we saw on NG look pretty bare.
highcell that quote is an opinion of another poster on a different forum.
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I think that Casey needs to learn:why people kills people to teach people not to kill.
http://www.topix.com/forum/source/orlando-sentinel/T5QJQ4UTMFANEN4FR/p31
IMHO I think that Casey should be locked away for life with the audio blasting 24/7 of Caylee singing Please Don’t Take my sunshine Away.
Another thing I thought was fishy, was that the attny were saying that LV was out of town on bussiness and he wasnt. Why lie about his were abouts and what he was doing while out of the picture.
personally the whole defence imo is sleasy, just sacrificing a small innocent child for publicity!!! i wish defence att had some sence of pride, or were at least required to have pride in thier work,wouldnt you rather do something you could show your family with pride”look i did this to the best of my ability, and i did everything by the book, nosneaking around, making misleading statment, something you could do and hold your head up high, show your son or daughter without looking down???……….anyway only my opinion~nite guys and gals see ya all in am bless you&simon&jan
Dak, Here’s another image of Zenaida with brown hair.
http://www.wftv.com/slideshow/news/17582318/detail.html
Dak, also in that image with her having brown hair, you can tell her hair is curly, and in the previous pic I posted her hair is colored and straightened.
So like I said before, she fits the description that Casey gave IMO.
Think again PAW not the same women. She is not 5′7 and she surely isn’t 140lbs, and the clincher she is the age Casey said Zanny was.
I stand corrected
The following aired on Nancy Grace on Dec 8th.
“Tonight, we learn that although the defense repeatedly accuses police of withholding evidence, it`s the defense team that has failed to show up and simply retrieve hours and hours of CDs of thousands of Caylee tips. Why? Does the defense actually believe Caylee was murdered, and therefore all of these tips, thousands of them, are useless?”
YES! I would say that is exactly what M’s defense team believed by not picking up the tips prior to Caylee’s remains being found. Yet they were yelling and screaming along with the Ants that Caylee was alive and had been spotted in several different locations. How can anyone trust or believe anything this defense team has to say?
Night all!
I could have swore I said IMO which means In My Opinion.
on the other blog someone pointed out all these ant are conducting thier own investigations now but none of them investigated any one supposidly caring for caylee??? so if they couldnt investigate that..maybee someone should point out they arent very good invrstigators??????????shoulda investigated b$,not after!nite all~
We all know so much about this insane, sad case. Can you imagine how much L.E. knows and are holding back from the public? THIS will be some Trial! All the Prosecutions facts will come out, and then good ol’Jose will “explain”everything. THEN we will finally understand! Maybe Casey … paid him for his services? In advance?
Casey = the pole dancer
Does anyone find it strange that Kathy Reichs is on the defense team?
Oops, pressed the sent button by accident.
Kathy Reichs does work for Montreal and North Carolina’s police departments, I find it strange that she would take on a defense position for this case. At first, I assumed it was because she would get rights to write a book, but she has claimed that no such deal exists and she is too busy writing her Bones series anyway.
What gives? Anyone?
Dr. Perper (who was involved in the Anna Nicole Smith death), just said tonight on NG that a trunk would have to have a body in it for 2-3 days for it to smell like it did. I am not sure why, but I always felt that Lee might have been moving the body around. (Was that the coded talking, about where he could find the body, and what best way do it?)”SHE’S CLOSE TO HOME, I CAN FEEL IT!” RIGHT!!! So yet another Anthony game - “Hide And Seek”. I would bet that’s why the car was smelling, he decided to keep putting the body in the trunk, moving it around, taking it from place to place, AFTER areas were checked throughly. Keeping in mind too, the floods, etc. I am tired and not sure I am explaing what I think … I’ll try this: A great plan for them! 1.Watch the news, 2. Note what areas LE have finished checking - and left. 3. What BETTER place then to dump a body - than one that has has *already been checked*! They are closing in on Lee. THEY ALL belong behind BARS! Poor little Caylee living in that building with all mental patients.
Why does this blog use the word “ants” and what does that mean?
I was unable to find any acknowledgment of my previous post concerning speculation that Caylee was the product of incest… did anybody get what I meant? If the child’s DNA is analyzed, and we know what the mother’s DNA looks like, we can see if the child was fathered by a close blood relative without having a DNA sample from Lee or George, assuming that Lee and George are true blood relatives of Casey.
anna said,in December 29th, 2008 at 10:43 pm GOD I KNOW YOU ARE THERE ORE LITTLE CAYLEE WOULD STILL BE MISSING, PLEASE HEAR ALL OF US, PLEASE LET THE TRUTH COME OUT, AND ALL GUILTY PARTIES BE PROSECUTED TO THE FULL EXTENT!!!!PLEASE GOD DONT LET ANY OF THE GUILTY PARTIES SLEEP WELL THE REST OF THIER DAYS, PLEASE LET THEM SEE THIS ANGEL IN ALL HER GLORY IN EVERY SLEEPING MOMENT!!!! ~AMEN~~~(not trying to take your place chsah) just had to say a prayer for our caylee, its sad i feel like us total strangers have taken the place of the family we know we care, and if it was someone other than m wed want that person to be prosecuted to, its just that m is the only suspect, and all evedince points to her, and who in the heck doesnt report thier child missing right away????……….and dont forget the deecomposing hair!!!…………
Hello everyone! Amen, Anna, I couldn’t have said it better. C4C is actually the one who brings the spiritual prayers to our blog in a way that I couldn’t even begin to do….your prayers are always welcome. You have a kind heart!
read up on the blogs. But seems everyone has gone. will try to find time earlier tomorrow to blog with my friends. Alot of good points on here tonight by you regular bloggers. There is always one or two bloggers that nothing we can present is going to convince them of the FACTS at hand. I would say they’ve been drinking the kasey koolaid and their minds are foggy to say the least.
It is their “hope” to believe that a mother isn’t capable of doing the unthinkable but read my earlier post:
CHSAH (r.i.p. caylee) said,in December 29th, 2008 at 1:49 am smithduke: here are some facts for you about mothers who kill their children.
http://www.associatedcontent.com/topic/86655/mental_institution.html?cat=38
On Wednesday, May 30, 2007, the Associated Press reported that 25 year old Gilberta Estrada, of Hudson Oaks, TX, had killed three of her daughters, aged 5, 3, and 2, and herself, by hanging. Her youngest daughter, 8 month old Evelyn, was still alive, despite being hanged in the closet with her sisters and mother, and was rescued by her aunt, Alejandra Estrada. Alejandra had broken into Gilberta’s mobile home looking for her, because she hadn’t shown up for work, and made the horrific discovery of the bodies of her sister and three nieces; she summoned medical help for Evelyn, and is now left to look at the empty back yard, still full of toys that will no longer be played with, and wonder why.
Gilberta Estrada is the sixth Texas mother since 2001 who has killed her children. In 2001, Andrea Yates killed her five children by drowning them in the bathtub. She was convicted of murder and sentenced to death, a popular sentence in Texas, but the verdict was later overturned on appeal, and is currently in a mental institution. At around the same time as the Yates family murder, Dee Etta Perez, also from Hudson Oaks, shot her three children, aged 4, 9, and 10, then shot herself. in 2003, Deanna Laney, in East Texas, killed two of her sons by beating them to death with rocks. She was tried and found not guilty by reason of insanity. That same year, Lisa Ann Diaz of Plano, Texas, drowned her daughters in their bathtub. Then in 2004, another Texas mother, Dena Schlosser, cut off the arms of her 10 month old daughter, who then bled to death.
reality check! M’s name will soon be added to the list of mother’s who kill their children!
morning all, so the pi videod the spot where caylee might have lay??? and bb doesnt want him talking to le, because he might spill secrets, about the defence talking about possible places her body might have been???? ok so i thought bb claimed she was alive??? why were they speculating about where her body might have been??? nothing in thiis case makes any sence to me any more, if i misunderstood what i read please let me know…. but thats the way i took it
Good Morning everyone been so busy over the holidays , up early so i want to see if there are any more good information
I have watched n.g last night they are really going to charge the brother? what reason ? has it been proven he is hiding something the( Code )speaking in code well Im not the smartest, but when I first heard those two in the Jail house conversaation I really couldn’t under stand what the heck they were chanting about yes its seems strange for a brother to chat like that with his sister,
they knew they were being video taped
betty said,in December 30th, 2008 at 1:06 am -great idea starting in the middle of your post with “A great plan for them.”
But the first part about the body in the trunk is off. By the time anyone knew to search for the body, the car had been impounded for two weeks and then the cops took it as evidence. So Lee did not have a chance to put the body in there or play hide and seek - in that car - with the searchers.
The body was in the trunk for about 2 days. Some of us figure it was first buried/hidden in the anthony’s backyard (cadaver dogs hit on the smell there) and then driven (by Casey) to where it was dumped.
Lo2013 -
Is that Kathy Reichs of the “Bones” TV show?
If so, tell her to quit messing around and write better tv shows. Bones is going down the toity it’s getting so bad.
I suppose that with people like her - who can do pretty much what they want - they’ll want to satisfy their professional curiosity. Sure she may not be writing a book about Caylee but she can incorporate hundreds of facts and details about this case into one or a dozen books for years to come.
But what she’s doing on the defense team - other than that - I do not know. I guess her main interest is the 2nd autopsy - for which there is no purpose? LOL?
so c,g and lv are gonna be made to hold m responsible????or else?????wonder if they know how????can they speak witthout lying or twisting anything????i suppose we will see in the near future, wonder who will be the next ant in jail??? anyone want to bet????? me ill take lv!
just a thought……..with all the unnessasary motions and things bb asks for then doesnt follow thru with(tip cd, crime scene) wonder if a 2 autopsy will accually be preformed??? makes me sad to thing our angel still waiting ti be burried, i dont see the reason for 2 one the only thing i could see them doing a 2 on is the toxcology…….
Morning!!!
good morning everyone. I had intended to come back on last night but wound up on the couch all night
about NG show last night.. as I said before, I think that body was moved and kronk is suspicious…the new video? something is very wrong with this whole case…
the whole video coming out…
I do believe they have something very bad on lee…
the whole case reeks of foul play
still cannot figure this all out.. and honestly making my head hurt lol
I just cannot believe how twisted this case has become…
be back later gotta get ready for work, but did read all the posts from last night.. GREAT
werd!!!!!
i shot a paper airplane at you all day yesterday, apparently you was ducking…tee hee
I saw NG to last night…..and Padilla the bails bondsman says that Kronk is in on it with lee and killr…he says that lee told kronk to go find the body there again for the 4th time…
Naww I was off line…all day…with the midgets….
yes pickles thats what he said i found it soooooooo telling… i think that body was moved to be found…and i think lee is in deep doo doo…
whether or not anyone agrees with paddy i think he has inside info…so if he said that the body was moved I believe it, and they will find it out, hopefully, if kronk is involved but the thing is if kronk got invloved why? promised some money?
I watchd NG and I think lee is waaay involvd…sounds like theres going to be a whole ant family in the county lock up…all of them..I have been thinkng for some time now they are all involvd in this….well the cover up anyways….
Anna where joooh been???
The car stunk from 2.6 days worth of composition inside of it I thought.
Incredibly, Casey says she wants to get pregnant right away so she can have a baby sister for Caylee when she is found, insiders told The ENQUIRER
Yah but Caylee wus found dead she cant play with a sister
Pammyliz…Paddy did say the day before dont be suprisd if LE drops the ball and has the body…you know that is like the first time he has really been right..and he was…they found the body….as for Kronk…I hope to God he is on the up and up cus he looks like the nicest guy and he looked almost proud to of brought Caylee home
I hope they all got to jail…each and every one of them…none of them culd stand tall and defend Caylee when she needed them the most and now in her death they still are neglectng her..im all cool with the protectng your family member whois wrongly accused of killng there child..but yah know…killr did it..she killd Caylee and they all coverd it up..why for family values, for monitary gain for what…and that poem that c put on killrs my space or that comment whatevr it was that Katherine postd earlier…c is a loser…she f!!’ng cared for Caylee and raised Caylee and provided everything that Caylee needed and then she just lets killr walk out tha door with Caylee never to be seen again…hmm…you wuldnt let her raise her herself so shes fit enuff to even stay the day with her…NO…no no no..they never shuld of let Caylee go that day…
morning E1 -
July 4th: Cindy Anthony’s posting on Casey Anthony’s MySpace Account
Subject: My Caylee is missing
Current mood: Distraught
“She came into my life unexspectedly, just as she has left me. This precious little angel from above gave me strength and unconditional love. Now she is gone and I don’t know why. All I am guilty of is loving her and providing her a safe home. Jealousy has taken her away. Jealousy from the one person that should be thankfull for all of the love and support given to her. A mother’s love is deep, however there are limits when one is betrayed by the one she loved and trusted the most. A daughter comes to her mother for support when she is pregnant, the mother says without hesitation it will be ok. And it was. But then the lies and betrayal began. First it seemed harmless, ah, love is blind. A mother will look for the good in her child and give them a chance to change. This mother gave chance after chance for her daughter to change, but instead more lies more betrayal. What does the mother get for giving her daughter all of these chances? A broken heart. The daughter who stole money, lots of money, leaves without warning and does not let her mother now speak to the baby that her mother raised, fed, clothed, sheltered, paid her medical bills, etc. Instead tells her friends that her mother is controlling her life and she needs her space. No money, no future. Where did she go? Who is now watching out for the little angel?”
Hey C~A sapponin…
c says at the end…who is now watchng out for the little angel…
Welp thankfully Caylee is an angel now doing her service for all the other lost children…that comment made by c makes her look soo stupid..she admittd there that they raise Caylee they provide for her 100% they never shulda let Caylee go that day…c is an IDIOT…..I have never read that and now that I have c is a idiot…she never shulda let Caylee leave they knew killr wasnt fit and stable to care for her..SHE KNEW KILLR WAS JEALOUS OF CAYLEE…SHE KNEW..SHE KNEW KILLR WAS JEALOUS OF CAYLEE…she shuld of watchd out for Caylee better.
She knew darnd well that killr was jealous of Caylee and she knew in her heart it was a risk and a threat to let her go…and they did anyways she openly admits in that comment..that she KNOWS killr is a thief an liar a unfit unstable mother…its all ther in her own words…JEALOUSY..its all there…they had a responsibility to watch and love and care for Caylee and protect her from her unfit unstable loser mom who had not spent a dollar nor a dime on her…not one..who said day in and day out she had to go to work when really there was no work no job no dest no phone…she was just going away to not be around her child…wether or not the state child welfare system was involvd they knew she wasnt a good mom ….
That comment there…is going to bite c in the ass..I hope its all on file with LE….every last word of it….SOmone shuld email that to LE…cus that there…c knew then that Caylee was dead she knew that it was cus of jealousy she knew that killr culd and wuld not properly care for Caylee at any point in time…
Oh sorry bite c in the a~ my bad
Hey, kids have more mulah and gift cards….going into the big city to shop AGAIN…only this time I bought all their cards from them for when we move, i;ll use them then, so they have all cash and we are going to ONE mall….
c is a krak a~ b~ I cant believe she said all that….I cant believe she let Caylee leave with killr that day…I just cant believe it knowng all that in her heart…Caylee…shes a fargn moron….
C~A hey I LOOOVE to shop so you drop on by my place and we will hit the malls….oooh yah…
Yes, so for motive…we have sociopathic jelousy … statements from Jesse about m breakin up with him cause he loved caylee more then her , Mags own words bout “all there worried about it finding caylee”…and C’s own words of her being jelous of the baby and how that jelousy took caylee away from her…
I wunna go to American Eagle Outfitters and Macy’s mom..and I want a Orange Julius and a Cinnabon…I gotta go pee mom….geez cant we stop at the pet shop mom….cmon mom…lets go…I gotta pee!!
wish i could bring ya along pickles…prob. be way more fun…we could shoot boogers at the walkers by
C~A c is a fool..purely a fool…her words she knew she absolutaly knew and her sayng those things..then tellng g that “we lost her” “who?”
“Caylee we lost her” its all there…in ther own words..they are going to send killr up the river wether they like it or not..
Hi, Pickles! Did you track down the source for that stupid rumor that M wants to have another child as soon as she’s out of the joint - or as you put it “have a baby sister for Caylee when she is found, insiders told The ENQUIRER.”
If it was the Enquirer (which is only good for toilet paper but ONLY when out in the woods surrounded by nothing but poison ivy), then it is BS. The Enquirer’s “insiders” are busy “inside” a lunatic asylum or are busy having alien babies themselves.
hahah…no pickles…all that whining would be from me…that’s all I said for like 3 hours last time…I have to pee damn it…
So I finally got a chance to read the barrage of comments and to C~A: I am sooo glad someone else noticed the connection between these two siblings and actually voiced it!
We know g is not M’s biological dad, so how do we know lv is her real brother? I wouldn’t be surprised if he was in love with her, the way they speak to each other. I knew this guy was shady from the time the prison videos started coming out. I dunno if he was actively involved in the disposal of her body, but he knows a lot more than he’s telling at the very least.
The fact that he wouldn’t hand over his dna or fingerprints without a warrant speaks volumes. Does anyone else think he might be caylee’s dad? This story/family is so convoluted, it wouldn’t be the craziest thing in the world.
To mytwocents: Yes, the famous author of the Temperance Brennan “Bones” books/tv show is on the defense team as a forensic anthropologist. I don’t watch the show, but I’m a big fan of the books and I am extremely disappointed that she would join this ambulance chasing, morally-bereft defense team.
And just my own take, I don’t think Kronk is involved at all. I think that he was a guy who tried twice, then Fay hit, and when he was put back in that area, got curious and wanted to try and do the right thing. Besides, if the defense plan was to use the nanny story, the worst thing they could have happen is the body turn up, so this guy threw a wrench into the whole defense strategy, giving the prosecution a huge amount of forensic evidence. If he were part of it, I highly doubt he’d hand over something that might implicate him.
And why the HELL was there a defense cameraman taping that specific area one month before it was actually located?! I think LE might have a case against bozo if he knew the body was there and had a member of his team go there to video.
Why would anyone on the defense side move the body/bag to BE FOUND? Instead of just getting rid of it? It makes no sense.
UHH it makes me sik to my stomach to think killr and lee are humpng..and Caylee was concievd it makes me sooo sik…ehhh..the whole nation is soon going to know if its true he wont get a date at any dive bar anywhere..
I think Kronk is a nice guy too..but you never know anymore..until I hear definent differetnt evidence…Im going to just see him as the man who brought Caylee home…now if they prove he is involvd then jah kno
hey pickley
im supprised you never seen that post by c b4.says alot huh??i dont understand why not one of these people who claim to have loved caylee so much has steped up to see justice done for her, doesnt matter who the killer is she was a 2 yr old child and someone shoulda been on her side from the start…with all these supposed investigations they have all been doing WHY did no one investigate where m was taking this child all day(nanny) or investigate her jobs??? they are all hiding something some deep family secret, im almost afraid to find out what it is, poor little caylee she was doomed from the start with these people not 1 will fight for what is right for her!!!
Mytwocents..its the enquirer and yah im sur its a load of bull they prolly contactd some inmate or some gaurd and payd em some $$cheese to say it.
Yah ANna I have not ever seen that…ever…it just puts the nails in the cell door tho…for killr…c knew she knew of the jealousy and the lies and the thiefing…all of it…she knew and its going to sink killr in the end…I hope LE has copies of all this
So g isnt killr biological dad?
its really suspicious that the pi was vidioing that area to, did he vidio other areas or only that one???
Hi Lo2013 I dont like to think about lee being Caylees dad cus she soo qute and him and killr are so darnd ugly….I mean dang Gina thats gross…just groddie blehhhh
Lo2013 - Maybe I will try Reich’s books. The tv show is going downhill fast.
I have not heard that M and LV were not the children of C & G. I have never heard of either of them having a step mom/dad. So I’m not sure about that.
I agree that it seems ridiculous for the defense to help “find” the remains. And it is HIGHLY suspicious that a defense PI was taping at that exact spot a month earlier. Very fishy.
The fact that there pi was there…that is no good..we say her in ORegon NO BUENO..no good..no good at all..why wuld he even be there..they believd that Caylee was alive for that whole time…so why wuld he even be there…and you know I wuldnt trust anythng that them or there pi had to offer.,
I agree Pickles, but it would explain a LOT about this insane family and why they are “not telling who the dad is” because he supposedly died in some car accident, even tho M likes to change the date of that accident left, right and center. Someone needs to call the Maury show asap!
Lo2013 I have been in absolute denial over the whole incest issue…I have refused to even acknowledge it…ahhhkkkkkughhh blehhh that is soo gross to the max..I wuld rather look at her XXX pics and make jokes bout em all day long…and I hear there are qwite a few…blehhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
Hi mytwocents:
You should try her old books, not the Bones books. It’s Tempe Brennan much older with a college-aged daughter and divorced. Lots of fun, though I’m not sure I’ll be able to stomach her books after all this.
In the very beginning, it was stated that g was her stepfather, but had been in her life since she was quite young. I’m pretty sure if you google it, you’ll find the sources on it. Never been any confirmation about lv being her bio bro, but I’m just throwing it out there.
Agreed. This whole PI business really stinks.
Just the thought that those two had a union and became one and did the nasty makes me want to vomit….eeewwwww….
IF he is the dad…..uhhh…I mean..did she come home drunk unable to get laid at a party and be all hey bro…look at my boobs…yah you like em..come on were not 100% blood related…let hump….
It is understandable when parents decides to stand in support of their child when they find themselves in legal trouble. Following in that longstanding tradition, attorney’s for the Anthony family say that Casey Anthony’s mother Cindy and step father George still believe she is innocent of murder charges in the death of their granddaughter, Caylee
Casey Anthony’s mother Cindy and step father George
http://mhutch.blogspot.com/2008/12/casey-anthony-parents-cindygeorge-still.html
g’morning peeps!!!!
I have been away from my puter for awhile, did some shopping yesterday(which about killed me.. RA is the shits!)
I finally got to read all the post,, and do I have some questions.
OK… who said that g is not m biological father? What about LV father?
SECONDLY, what do you all make about the PI the ants hired??? Whats up with that??
(also come by and get me for shopping.. tired of fliging boogies all by myself)
They make me want to vomit, period. This whole story is getting more insane every week!
They’re going to have a hard time finding an impartial jury, even if they get a change of venue. Anyone think the death penalty will get put back on the table?
Yappers hes her step daddy..so they are only 1/2 bro and sis…THEY HAVE THE SAME MOTHER…ahhhhkkkkk blehh….She is a very mature lookng young lady killr is …and I bet lee was a dog when he wus in jr high and high school..and I bet he chekd her out alot..and they did it…eeeeeeeeeeewwwwwwww
Lilred….der yew b dahlng..was up? g is killrs step daddy…not bio…blehh gonna vomit her and lee prolly humpd…ewww..
You all do realize this is leading into alot of sick and immature comments and jokes out of me now…cus this is alot like the XXX pics…Its just to much for me and I am not mature enuff to properly retain this information in my head..so be prepard…oh yah
Pammyliz, Sorry so late in responding the “demon” got the death penalty!
If you remember the case the defense trashed the entire little girl’s family in trying to throw suspicion elsewhere.
I think the defense in this case is throwing everthing they can think of against the wall to see what sticks.
I cannot believe anyone who listens to the prosecution could believe she is anything but GUILTY. Justice for Caylee!!!
*flings boogers on Red*
Hi Mimi…!!!
Hi Lil… I had heard that on NG when this whole ugly business began this summer. It’s not mentioned often, probably because it’s not really relevant, but he IS her step-dad, who apparently has been around since she was young. I have no idea who lv’s dad is, whether it’s g or c’s ex. Speaking of which, I wonder what M’s real dad thinks about all this, if he’s still around.
Red read above yur comment it says there that g is killrs step dad….
Well I wonder if lee is c and g or g and somone or c and somone…I wondr…wow maybe they aint even blood at all..but they kinda resemble eachother…in a way the nose or somthng….I bet killrs real dad is a sociopath…a crazy phyco..
Does anyone know if lv is older or younger than m? I think if he’s older, he may very well be g’s kid from another relationship. If he’s younger, it’s anyone’s guess.
whered you guys hear g was step dad??? now i really wonder who caylees father is, could be the reason m&c dont get along and play so many games!ewww..
anna,
read the comments above…. the NG show. Just google it, I’m sure you’ll find tons of sources stating it.
just saw that link…………many many deep dark secrets!!!
Anna
Pickles said,in December 30th, 2008 at 9:51 am
lee is 3 yrs oldr than killr I think…look at his grey hair….
Hmmm, pickles if that’s true then I think it’s entirely possible they may not be related at all. The only way they are is if they’re both c’s kids with the same man, not g.
I culd of sworn lee is her oldr brothr….so that wuld make them not related..I highly doubt that killr and g humpd so I doubt g is her dad…in Caylees dna she is like 1% hispanic..tho..I read it in the released docs of the dna done on her lone hair from the trunk
Ok.. so 2 wks ago, I was feeling a lot of sympathy for the Anthony grandparents when Caylee’s remains were found. I took a moratorium from the disgust I felt for their actions and felt that maybe.. MAYBE.. now they would start acting like normal people. They would grieve, bury her and help police.
But, now, forget that. All they talked about was finding Caylee, justice for Caylee, etc. They said how much they loved her and how important she was in their lives. They insisted she was alive and had their heads in the sand regarding the guilt of their daughter.
Now, the body has been found, it has been examined and released to them. Do they bury this poor child? NO. They let the body be picked apart yet again. They do this because they feel it will help their daughter’s defense. Defense???. How can they still defend this woman?
They need to give this child a decent burial, after she has been lying in the woods for 6 months. What morons they have proven to be.
Its really scarey to know people like them are walking amongst us! The word “dysfunctional” doesn’t even describe them. I’m not sure what word should be used. Stupid? Liars? Backward? Users? I think a good word for them is Pathetic.
They had almost 3 years to to the best for that little girl. Yes, she had a lovely room in a lovely house and all the toys a child could want. And, I don’t doubt they loved her. But, they have proven their way of “loving” is far short of the love normal people show for children. They never protected her from her own mother. They knew their daughter was irresponsible and a thief and liar and selfish, yet they sit back and allowed her to make decisions for this child.
They continue to lie for a liar. They continue to assume everyone outside of their little group is stupid. They continue to listen to self-serving lawyers.
At this point, I agree they should all go to jail. If only for not giving this child a burial.
“Don’t pee on my leg and tell me it’s’ raining”.
good sleuthing pickles…so I wonder where caseys’ real father is and more importnat WHO HE IS…as a person…I bet he’s in jail!
Mimi said somthng interestng on the other article…that they shuld of realizd Caylee not knowng who nanny was…
Elaine…dont piss up a rope eithr…!!
Knowing who real daddy is…sound familiar…this could shed some light on m’s behaviour although i think she is so much sindy how could she be even more like her real dad?
I bet her bio dad is phyco….just like her…ohh yah..
Mimi said anothr good thing in the other blog bout Caylee havn no clue who nanny was…that c didnt even ever question where Caylee was going…maybe lee was the nanny and it was just his way of spendng time with Caylee his daughtr…ewwww..yuckie..poo poo…G-ross…I hope he isnt Caylees dad
This just makes the scenerios spin out of control…like WOW!! I hope he aint the daddy..
Does anyone know where to get the set of documents containing the dna from the lone hair and the body farm analysis..cus I culda sworn that Caylee had 1% hispanic origin in her…
Can someone provide proof that they are not her biological parents?
Everything I’ve found says they are.
I postd a link to a hutch report above that states g is her step dad its at
Pickles said,in December 30th, 2008 at 9:51 am
Thats all I culd find regardng the matter…so far…
its bugging me why that pi was vidioing that area, why there of all places??? i hope le gets to the truth if its possible and all of them pi included go to jail, lv is looking really guilty about now!!!
If thats the only spot he videod then I think its really suspicious…like pre plantng doubt
Hey there…
also, If lv and m are steps.. quite possibly Caylee was their baby..
EEEEKSSSSS.. THAT is just disgusting. But it would answer ALOT
of questions regarding Caylee’s ‘daddy’..
although IMO that other guys(don’t remember his name).. Caylee looked alot like him.. hmmmm I don’t think this could get any stranger if they tried…
Maybe they all killed Caylee.. just got tired of her.. sick
I need the link to view the body farm test results with the dna analysis of the decomposing hair from the trunk can somone please help me find it….I culda sworn it said Caylee was like 1% hispanic origin
Red…JP Chatt she looks like JP Chatt…
poor caylee never had a chance with this lying scheming family!!! its obvious she wasnt any1 priority all of them seem to be to selfcentered to care for her properly and i think maybe they all had something to do with this….how does g rember a month prior what shes wearing???how cuz in my opinion hes a liar to, im certain they are all hiding some dark family secret that cost this child her life!!!
I cant find it
Found it
Is loading….I culda sworn I read that there was hispanic dna in that hair from the trunk the one that they said was Caylees
But pickles, if her father was hispanic, don’t you think there would be more than 1% in her dna? Perhaps it’s a distant relative of her father or mother
Yah I am reading it wrong…I dont know how to read it…I wish Therapist were here….Mytwocents yur smart…
Yah…I need to obtain more brains to read that…
Pickles… yup, that is the guy I was talking about!!
I had to laugh about your comment yesterday(?).. about you getting
raunchy(spell check) and nasty!!! haha… I know fer shur you are a red
head.. just like me. I have had to hold my tongue many times thinking
that if I said what I was really thinking.. Jan might kick me off. OH no nothing about Jan or Simon… they are GREAT!!!!!!!!
Just looing for JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE MARIE
Tinman has a hart but lacks brains over here…
I gothchah…I wont be able to contain myself if lee is Caylees daddy….oooh no…you gunna need a leash fur the ol Bump0naPickle..dats fur sur
Hey all! Saw this on NG. Sharing with those who haven’t seen it. WTF?! BB doesn’t want the PI to divulge conversations BB, et al may have had about where Caylee’s remains MIGHT BE FOUND? And I thought THEY were convinced she was alive!
From WFTV:
The private investigator who works with the Anthonys told Eyewitness News he came to the area the month before Caylee’s remains were found and videotaped the area. He says the tape shows Caylee’s body was not there at that time, but now investigators want to know why he was there with a camera in mid-November.
Private investigator Jim Hoover says he recorded the wooded area where Caylee Marie Anthony’s remains were found about a month before they were found.
“We will definitely look into that, absolutely,” said Carlos Padilla, Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
Hoover briefly showed an Eyewitness News photographer a short clip of the videotape, which appeared to be authentic; the fence was recognizable.
“They know the existence of the tape and want to look at all evidence that’s available,” Padilla said.
Investigators also want to talk to the Anthonys’ private investigator who works with Hoover, Dominic Casey. The defense wants to intervene, because Dominic Casey used to work for the defense and attorney Jose Baez doesn’t want him to divulge privileged information.
Baez said investigators won’t let him sit in on the questioning, so he’s asking the judge to appoint a special master to protect defense secrets if the private eye agrees to talk.
“Investigators have tried to make arrangements with Mr. Casey to speak to him and he’s not responded,” Padilla said.
The defense’s spokesman said they don’t want their former private eye to divulge privileged conversations they might have had about where Caylee’s remains might be.
The defense’s spokesman said they don’t want their former private eye to divulge privileged conversations they might have had about where Caylee’s remains might be
they dont want conversations they might of had regarding about where Caylees remains might of been WTFlock? so they knew long ago that Caylee was dead…and this dude use to work for the defense team…see all this is shady…are they all tryng to sink killrs boat….
This just in: Jose Baez reveals the real story….Casey’s bio dad, pizza delivery man, kidnapped child, left pizza in trunk as temporary decoy…..now you know, the rest of the story.
In a related interview, Leonard Padilla reveals he ordered and received pizza from same delivery man while at the Ants house…..
Tow truck yard worker discloses he too ordered pizza and was delivered by same man at the same time the car began to smell…..
I wish one of the local Florida news agencies would start following the money trail. Where is all of this money coming from to hire lawyers, private investigators, spokespeople… Remember just a short time ago the Anthony’s were having serious financial troubles… I cringe every time I go to the grocery store…or pay bills and I don’t have an attorney speaking for me…or a private investigator out videoing random wooded areas… And…I work 50 hours a week. Someone has to start looking at the finances of this Family and how donated funds are being used.
ELAINE…10;08 THIS AM
Excellant post, you said exactly everything I feel/felt.. very eloquently
too, I might add!!!
I absolutely love your last sentence, ‘don’t pee on me and tell me it is
rain’!!!! Lmao
You did a great job!
Hey der Gran….good morning…
hi blogger friendssss….oh wats this about video tape…lee possible charges…..
i say round ta whole ants up…lock them up…
im just sick of them..not one of them has shown any respect or loyalty to that princess….
justice for caylee….
Morning Spacely thank you for that special report…always a smile maker!!!
Minnie….Aye
JustStatic..I agree I think that Caylee has been way more beneficial to them dead then alive….imho
thanks gran…just read your post…wtf..is going on why was someone out with cameras in that area…before caylee was found??? this is getting more twisted by ta day….
I thinks its to lay doubt in the minds of ppl….How far into the woods did that dooder go with that camera?
hi pickles…missed you yesturday….i spent a good most of day here and it sure gets you wound up…
pammyliz at 5:36 last night - sorry, I’m so late responding. I never heard of any relative of M’s blackmailing her. I only heard - what was it the second story? No the third one - that Zanny and her sister Samantha took Caylee from M at Blanchard park. So Samantha would be the relative of Zanny, I guess. Otherwise I’ve not heard of any relative blackmailing M.
What does she have to be blackmailed about EXCEPT that she killed and disposed of her daughter? What could be worse than that? Even if there is more dirt about M that we don’t know it would not surprise us!
LOL!
Yah I saw that I popped on here and ther..but didnt want to get entangld in it….not the nerve nor the tongue to get involvd in the debate happening yesterday..I wantd to come in but…nahh..spent the day with my midgets..
the very fact that anyone working for ants was doing this makes me even more suspicious…its real dodge….does anyone see some charges being brought to any of the ants????
Morning Pickles,
This case just keeps getting crazier and has been since day one….I don’t think any Alfred Hitchcock could have got this many twists into one story.
I agree with Just Static….what is up with the money trail? Who would pay to defend this woman or her family?
Where is Baez getting the money to eat dinner, let alone defend this girl?
And why would any defense lawyer get on TV and announce his client is about to be charged with criminal activety like Lee’s did last night? Is it possible Lee found an attorney dumber than Jose? Does this mean 2 TV movies, the Casey Ant Story - as told by her close friend Jose, and My Sister Did It - the Lee Ant story? (Lee to be played by Robert Downey, Jr., George by Jerry Stiller, and Cindy by Joan Rivers)
Is anyone getting a feeling that Baez might have made a mistake with his explaination as to why he wants someone there when the PI is interviewed? If we follow his statements from the begining…he stated that they were always on the assumption that Caylee was alive. If that is so…why would they be having discussions as to where Caylee’s body might be placed as early as August through October?
I think he might have tipped his hand that they might have been “misleading” with his statements early on in the case. Perhaps they never thought Caylees was alive all along…
I would hate to think that Baez and his team are commiting crimes…but the thought did occur to me that they video’d the area…then had someone move Caylee from her original spot. That is just too unethical for me to get my head around. That would put Baez in jail too if that were true.
bbl…someone calling…dammm
Peeps???
(off the subject for uno momento)
Has anyone heard anything about Kris??? I was wondering how she was doing?? We don’t hear much from DAK anymore either… wus up??
Amy Wino is gunna be killr
i hope they charge them all, they didnt deserve caylee, they sure havent stood up for her they need to be in jail for all they have done!!! theyve prob done alot more than we even know imo!
Dak wus here yestrday I noticed Kris im not sur…
They need to all be brought up on charges…
As for the video Id like to know how far into the woods the pi went..and does it show the little gully dug out where Caylee was found..and if so then just xactly where wus that bag at..and how come all the bones were scattrd everywhere…a mile radius graftd off to locate all the bones..even the pebble sizd ones
Hmmm…Jose moved the body….that is actually what I was thinking when he announced that the body could not have been there and that he had video to prove it.
I wonder if he has video of Krunk calling the cops the first couple of times too? And maybe some video of Zanny snatching the victim?
Its funny how the defense keeps coming up with pics and video - pics of live Caylee when she was gone all this time, video of areas that were underwater at the time they were videod dry - but none of the pics LE and NG show up with are credible - 1600 party pics, american flag pics, “pro” paid pics - hhmmmm……
Hi Pickles (And everyone else of course lol) ! I have trouble with her remains being moved because of the fact that they found so many little bones scattered and buried under the dirt over such a large area.
hi all, reading up, and have to work today.
thanks MTC about the reply to blackmail story highcell had mentioned it and I never heard that one, or maybe I did but I dont see anyone talking about it…
this case like someone above said is just too much for me even with my sluething mind…
lol.. i am one who does NOT think lee is daddy to caylee… Idont see any proof of it, nor do I think it has any relevance
what does is the evidence against m for the death of caylee… as far as any other stuff about who is banging who? I simply don’t care lol..
i just want justice for caylee.. for her killer to be found guilty and punished.. the anst ahve alot of answering to do and that will come later, first and foremost is the conviction of M for this…
i am curious tho about lee.. he has done something thats for sure…
If someone had been moving them around it seems they would have made sure it stayed more together. The fact that they bones were found everywhere means to me that they have been there all along maybe move by animals or weather but cant say I believe they were moved by a human!
Hey peeps….
I am now just listening to the show Sun… it is good.
Amy winehouse… haha… naw… she is too classy to be m!!!!
Anybody ever think it is g’s kid? Remember M stating how much she hated her father in the police interviews? And if he is not M’s biological father, why does Caylee look like him? Just throwing that out there, maybe that’s why she hated him so much and had no love for Caylee cuz she was molested, he seemed to have a gambling problem and was not such an ass per C’s brother’s emails to his mother. That may also be why C didn’t want adoption as an option and made her keep the child, knowing it was g’s. You never know with this family, something is out of whack and I think alot of family SECRETS are going to come out in court. Hold on to your seats I don’t think we have seen anything yet.
Pammyliz…I still refuse to believe lee is bebes daddy..nope cant wont will not..I think its JP Chatt…I think killr got drunk and boned a whole gaggle of men including JP Chatt and that he is bebes daddy..I refuse to believe somone as qute as Caylee is the product of a union between killr and eddie munster…
I think Caylee looks like c mostly…in all them pics…but I dont think that g is the daddy..I refuse to think that either of them men fathrd Caylee….I pray to God they didnt….ewwww…it makes me cringe…I dont want to ride that tangent again…blehh
Morning Pattianne!!
me too pickles me too.. guess thats why i cant spend time speculating on it
blah… who cares even? i dont… i mean i care only about criminals, law breakers and murderers… until they come out and state this is true, i don’t believe it.. we all just think lee is creepy and then we add that in the picture, makes him even creepier… i think he is in trouble tho for something…
blah i don’t wanna go back to work today
Something is definitely suspicious over the paternity of Caylee. I have thought about incest between lv n m it is possible stranger things have happened . I think it will all come out in the trial.
Me again…
did anyone read Concerned for Caylee’s last coment??? Does that mean she is not coming back??
Also, this may be nosey, but does anyone know what type of cancer does Sean have??
(me=blog whore today)
my girl is insisting on wearing a new pair of jeans she got that are falling off of her LOL size 4T and too big, but her xmas gift, so I am letting her, because its easier then to fight about it
she be being REALLY bad lately, mouthy and hateful…lol
what do we all say “treasure these moments?” lol yah I am treasuing them alright…
what was her last comment?
Pammyliz and Pickles; I also do not think that little Caylee was G’s or LV’s child. She has some Anthony resemblance but she sure does - sorry, did - look like that JP Chatt to me.
pammyliz - fortunately suspenders are back in fashion. See if they come in toddler size to hold up those size 4T’s on your little girl!
(I only know because my goddaugher who is 12 going on 20 - geesh! - wanted a pair of pants for Christmas that came with removeable suspenders!)
thanks MTC yah they are adorable jeans, designer ones my family got her, they do have a belt but they are old baggie butt on her.. and yes at 3 1/2 she is already arguing about EVERYTHING
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
I’m lettin her wear them and later will look into suspenders…i bet i can find a cheap pair right now with xmas sales…lol
see what I mean? I didnt even think about suspenders, cause my mind be all boggled all the time…lol
agree about the fathering thing, need concrete proof of it, and yah JP guy looks more like caylee…
ok now i give up, she wants a different pair on
ahhhhhhh!!!
Lilred, where did you see a comment from concerned for caylee? Please name the article and time.
I expect if Sean wants everyone to know the specifics of his illness that he will write about it. Maybe you could check his blog to see if he mentioned it. If he didn’t then I expect it is none of our business.
pammyliz; Get a paint stick and use it. No bruises, not abuse. This comes from my truancy judge. He reads law to parents that states it’s a parent’s obligation and duty to discipline children.
Don’t mean to overstep my boundries. Just offering suggestion. I had a stubburn one, too. Used to bang her head on the wall.
Pickles… flinging boogers back… and I have a head cold!!!! eeeeks..
watch-out.. duck…
Spacely,
LOL, I could not agree with you more and I love your ideas of who the players would be in the Casey Ant movie.
I watched NG last night and thought, “who is this guy and what a stange situation”. I have never seen the like. Makes me wonder if Lee committed another crime and did not want his DNA and fingerprints taken for that reason. Maybe this investigation is not even related to this case, but another case that was never solved. Why not? There seems to be no end to this saga.
PS,
Hello Everyone. I am in and out so quickly, I don’t often take the time to be polite. Sorry about that.
Sorry, If I repeat comm