Well at first sight not much other than they both very likely are murderers, and they both sit behind bars, a location that may well prove to be their final resting place.
There is one more thing they have in common, both of these stories are going to be explored Sunday on our News In Reviews radio program.
At 2PM we are going to be exploring the OJ Simpson story, and we have a very special guest attorney Peter Haven. Peter has been involved with the Goldman families ongoing attempts to recover the now over $30 million dollars awarded them after OJ Simpson was found guilty in the civil trial of causing the deaths of Nicole Brown Smith, his ex wife, and a young waiter Ron Goldman. Peter Haven and his fellow attorney David Cook have dogged OJ for a couple of years. Often having to trade straight attorney work to that more akin of a Financial Pathologist. If there was a Heisman Trophy for financial shenanigans I have no doubt that OJ would be a strong contender. He managed to squirrel away over $600k in a book advance by setting up a sham corporation under his children’s name, and leaving them to deal with the fallout when it declared bankruptcy. Now I likely don’t qualify as a candidate for Father Of The Year, but that is a position that I would never put my children in.
Joining me to talk with Peter Haven is the always entertaining and plain spoken Sean Krause. When I mentioned this show to him, his comment was something like “OH, really, I have always wanted an opportunity to get at an insider in this case”.
All I can say is, don’t miss this show, it will be explosive!
At 3PM we will once again be returning to the Caylee Anthony story. Todays sad, but not unexpected news that the bones found by a meter reader are indeed those of the missing toddler is one more piece of the puzzle in the ever growing case against mom Casey Anthony. The groups supporting the Anthony grandparents have been evaporating faster than moonshine spilled on a hot summers day. Suddenly Cindy and George Anthony are on their own, there are no more wild goose chases to go on. They can do no more to diffuse the heat on their daughter Casey.
But, as an astute observer pointed out, ok, they have the body, but they still do not have conclusive proof that Casey Anthony is the killer. Will Casey ever admit guilt? Well our team at BNN will be talking about all of the developments. I will be joined by my wife Jan, Ms. Pickles is bound to have a lot of input, and once again Sean Krause will be joining us from New York.
Many people think of Sunday afternoons as a time for watching football, well folks, there will be more action here on Blogger News than a Super Bowl. To listen in, just point your browser to www.bloggernews.net and at 2PM Sunday CST click on our Listen Live icon.
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Hello my friends…
As I watched Dr and LE.. all involved looked like were vey close to tears.What a sad day…
I have this sick feeling that m is probably reading a book and eating.. while the rest of us, you my friends,are crying…
NOW maybe we can get to the task at hand, m finally having to pay for what she has done.
Cry no more for Caylee, she is with the Lord… “Jesus loves the little children”…..
We have a bond, like no other, formed from the blight of a beautiful, smart innocent child, lets all remain strong in heart and soul.. we still have a fight ahead of us. We will always be remembered as the souls that fought for a little girl, whose own family discarded..
REMEMBER, JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE.
I just want to say that I cannot believe the mean-spirited people in this world!
I am not an “Anthony lover” however, I do still (and I wonder why) love the human race. These two people may have been in denial, they may have been trying to take the ‘heat’ away from their daughter, and anything else you want to say about them; but, for God’s sake, they are human! they love their daughter and loved their grand-daughter; of course they will be grasping at straws, hoping against hope that their child is not a horrible person capable of taking the life of her own daughter! Of course they will hope against all hope that their precious grand-daughter is still alive! Have a heart, blame them for whatever you want to believe they did or didn’t do, but try to understand them. I won’t say walk a mile in their shoes because NOBODY can do that, unless they have experienced a loss identical to theirs.
George and Cindy Anthony may or may not have heard the truth from Casey’s lips. Personally, I don’t believe she would give them the courtesy of telling them so they could stop looking for the child alive. Casey appears to have great resentment toward her family, mostly her parents and I doubt she would say anything to them. As parents, they believed what they wanted to believe so long as they didn’t have to face the fact that their child, a living part of them, could commit such a horrible act.
That, friends, is soooo natural, so common… we can all sit here behind our computers and television sets and say “If that were me I’d do this or do that” “My child would not have done something like that, or my child would not be alive if she did something like that, I’d kill her myself” Yes, we can “say” that but if each one of us would stop and really think about it; a very large percentage of us would have a hard time deciding what to do. We all love our children and we take them for what they are. That’s not to say that we should condone their wrong-doings, but we will unintentionally, close our hearts to what our eyes and ears are detecting and we will ‘pretend’ if you will, that it isn’t true. That, believe it or not is the “UNCONDITIONAL LOVE” we all promise our children the day they are born.
It is that unconditional love that blinds us and makes us deaf to so many things our children do or say.
In conclusion, yes, Casey is probably guilty of at the very least concealing the death of her child and at the very worst, killing her; and yes, George and Cindy Anthony have said and done some stupid things in the search for their grand-child; but, they are guilty of one thing: LOVING BOTH THOSE GIRLS, one their daughter and the other their grand-daughter.
Give them a break, allow them to mourn the loss of Caylee with dignity and in peace.
Don’t bash them any more than they are surely bashing themselves for the mistakes they may have made with Casey.
Allow Caylee to rest in peace without her soul having to look down on the horror her grand-parents are having to live with.
This case is far from over, but, LET THE GRANDPARENTS MOURN IN PEACE.
Pray that you are never put in their shoes, because we don’t know if we’re going to be able to walk the path they have had to walk.
In response to this statement:
“…ok, they have the body, but they still do not have conclusive proof that Casey Anthony is the killer”…..
I wish everyone would just sit back for a little while and watch this outcome. What makes people think that ALL of the evidence that the FBI has is “out there” for the public. I am willing to bet that there is evidence that has not yet been told. In addition, I am willing to bet they have alot more conclusive evidence that was found at the crime scene…as everyone knows, they are not saying a word about what exactly they have and I am sure it is damning to the defense.
Casey Anthony has done nothing but lie from the beginning. That already has been proven. What sane person would be out partying when their 2 year old child is missing????That woman is guilty and deserves the death penalty. Even better .. the way she killed her daughter kill her too minus the cloriform. I am sorry I have no sympathy for that woman. No sympathy for anyone that harms a innocent child in any way at all.
Not-so-cruel, Possibly we would not have such a great deal of hostility towards your heroes had they not repeatedly lied and acted so arrogantly towards law enforcement officials. A child was finally reported missing after their car had been impounded. Wow, it took the disappearance of a $1500 car to make them decide to contact law enforcement. Old lady anthony called, screaming “smell of death,” yet later recanted to “rotten pizza.” When on earth has stale pizza had a scent similar to that of a corpse?
Lies, lies and more lies, clearly how their daughter inherited this trait. Most of us find this entire situation an insult to humanity and one of the worst injustices ever done to an innocent child. And if your priorities are not on the demise of this innocent child and by the non-caring attitude of those who should have shown concern, get your head out and rationalize what really happened here.
What do the two have in common? Perhaps a deed to a duplex in hell?
Flash you have it right! Excellent post. Not-so-Cruel has a good point but I don’t agree with her.
The family has been anything but kind to all involved in this. They have whined, complained, insulted and made a spectacle of themselves when the protestors were in their yard. This was not done in the name of their grandaughter, it was done out of arrogance, like the world owes them. If there had been any true respect for their grandaughter, they would have politely shut the door and called the police, instead, they got out with baseball bats and confronted the protesters. No, they dug on it because they feel it is their just due.
Mental illness affects all in a family, but it didn’t start with Casey. She had a good role model. Thankfully, sweet Caylee will not have to suffer being in their hands any longer.
For the past 5 months, the grandparents have been ridiculed, hated, protested, name it.. they got it. I agree that these actions were taken against them due to their own behavior. I have been trying to figure out why they acted as they did.
They knew the character of their daughter. While knowing the daughter was a screw-up, could they possibly admit that she could kill this wonderful child? Even in their own intimate conversations, I’m sure they asked one another . “could she do it?” Apparently, they didn’t believe even a liar and thief could commit this horrendous act.
A mother killing her own small child is fathomless to most of us and we aren’t personally involved. Which parent in the world thinks the child they raised could do this? Its a blind faith we have in our children and in return, those children have the same faith in us.
That said, I have thought the granparents handled this entire horror in the wrong way. Whether they are ignorant or had misleading guidance or just had their backs to the wall, we will probably never know. I had also thought they in some small way contributed to this child’s demise, only due to the fact that they trusted the daughter with this child’s when she had proven to be distrustful in every other aspect of her life.
Legally, what happens to these grandparents, we will see. But, as of this minute, they are mourning a wonderful light that was in their life for a very short time. I have no doubt at all that this mourning is true and heartfelt and I offer my sympathies to them.
They will have many self recriminations in the future, so I offer that we let these people grieve as they should.
Flash:
You are quick to judge me on what I have said. The Anthonys are NOT my “heroes” they are simply human beings with faults and virtues just like anyone of us.
I’m not blind to the inconsistencies in their statements to the public, to LE and to anyone who would listen.
All I am saying is that not all that was done with malice, a lot of it stems from their being in DENIAL (D on’t E ven kN ow I A m L ying)which in turn stems from their love for their own flesh and blood. They DID NOT want to believe their child was capable of this horrible act and they wrapped themselves up in this denial blanket.
Yes, Casey is most likely the one that killed that baby, and yes, my priorities are on the demise of the baby, a death that didn’t and shouldn’t have happened.
That does not have to cloud my thinking or my heart to the point that I cannot feel compassion towards grieving grand-parents. Lies, derranged statements, anger, yes all of the above, still grieving, confused grand-parents.
OK people. One thing I have always wondered was when George and Cindy went to retrieve the vehicle did they actually need to put gas in it or was this another Casey lie(out of gas)? I have yet to see this answered anywhere. If it was not out of gas, did Casey leave it in the parking lot so it would be stolen and disappear? This could be another nail in her coffin that I have not seen addressed. Without the car, proof of her involvement could have been a little more difficult.
JC
Wow. First I want to say I am glad we finally have Caylee so she may be given the final respects that are due to everyone. She should be buried with diginity, Grace, and Honor.
I think that there is enough emotion in this entire case to cover every range of emotion out there. I have read the posts of some very great people, who when riled up say, suggest and imply some not very nice images. All done out of anger, pain and frustration over the loss of beautiful Caylee. I will admit I have no idea how I would be if I were in the Ants shoes. They have said and done things I have had a hard time explaining or understanding. I think I am waiting to see what there approach is now. I have stated from the begining that I believe C will go after m the minute she believes Caylee is truly deceased. Now is when we will really see if they are going to stand up for Justice for Caylee or if they are going to try and save m and write off little Caylee. Until I see how they go forward I am going to reserve jusdgment, I think you can write off alot of crazy behavior when you try and imagine all the pressure they are under. I urge all of us to wait and see the evidence on them from now forward. The statement that their attorney made is that they are going to cooperate with Le. Lets give them the chance to follow through on what they are saying. ALl the video and photos that I see show a happy, loved, well adjusted Caylee. I dont believe that came from M so I give the credit to G & C for that. I know that Caylee loved them and would want us to wait and see how they approach this new developement. I know that Caylee is safe with our Lord and Savior now. I want to point out that I have often been mixed on my feelings about this. I DO BELIEVE THE FOCUS SHOULD BE ON CAYLEE. But I also ask myself what would Caylee want everyone to do in regards to M, C, G, and LV? Please everyone remember this is just my opinion and I too love Caylee and want Justice for her.
Good old Bobo Bozo has done a press conference after the confirmation that the remains are Caylee. In the first minute of the interview he called LE unprofessional at least 8 times. He claimed that the jail was unprofessional in not allowing him to break the news to M. Sure that would have been handy, he could have coached her on how to look hysterical and stricken and he could have suggested to her to ask for lots of tranquilizers. As it is she was told the news by a prison chaplain, which seems perfectly proper to me. She is now free to order more goodies from her commissary account which now totals $400.00 some dollars donated by loving fans.
Bobo again indicated his client is totally innocent and brought out the violins again to say that we do not know the full story and again suggested we will say AAHH we understand now when the evidence comes out. Please someone, send me tranquilizers this man makes me so angry.
John in G interview with police I believe he had to go and get a gas can and come back. I could be wrong about that. There has been so much speculation about that. Also don’t know if gas guage was broken or not.
I have a theory about the car. I think M was planning on skipping town and faking her own death. Found in the car was her purse, Caylee’s doll and carseat. Imagine if that car had been found and there was no M. Everyone would have thought that maybe M and Caylee were dead. Then she could have sailed off into the sunset ” the beautiful life” She had told her friend in Cal. that she was going to come for a visit. She had bought clothes, and other vacation gear. That is why she wasn’t afraid of being taped stealing from her friend, everyone would think some kidnappers were making her do it. When C went to pick her up at Tony’s (unbeknownst to M) she was on her laptop doing stuff while Tony and roomate played video games. The computer had all of it’s info erased, Amy’s account was empty, time to move on. That is why she planned out the killing so well(in her mind) but didn’t think through her explanation to Le. She never expected to be here to give it. IMO
I don’t think the people in the OJS were this deranged. They acted out, but not psycho, like these people. And I don’t believe in people lying to law enforcement and those that are trying to help for drama sake, which is how I read the Anthonys.
Dear Heavenly Father we want to take a minute and come to you asking that you comfort all the people who are devastated and heartbroken over the death of beautiful Caylee Marie Anthony. Wrap your arms of comfort around each of us and help us to be strong and get through this most difficult and trying time. Trying to understand the whys? the Hows? the Reason? Is all too much today, so just comfort us and help us to share our grief, restrain our anger, and keep our minds focused on Beautiful Caylee. All these things we pray in Jesus Name. AMEN.
I would suggest that we remember G was honest in interview with le and must have been equally candid with grand jury. They did indict after his testamony. Most of the lies and mistatements have been to media people. I agree lying is wrong and definately causes suspicion, I think THEY REFUSED TO BELIEVE THAT CAYLEE WAS DEAD, so they had to explain away all the evidence.
I haven’t seen whether the car was actually out of gas, but I read on a blog that he went to pick up the car, found out that they required cash and came back with cindy and picked it up. I think they knew at that point that Caylee was dead, but went with the kidnap story. They didn’t mention the car again after the 911 call, but LE followed up the next day, giving them time to conceal evidence.
If they were in denial, which I doubt, wouldn’t they have been actively searching, begging the kidnappers to return her, taking polygraphs to clear themselves, like other relatives of abducted children do? They just lied to protect their daughter, because they knew she was all they had left.
to ‘concernedforcaylee’ :
Wow I never thought of it that way, but you may be onto something there….
Well they did discuss the car with Le and G even told them in his interview with Le that the smell bothered him. That conversation was with local and FBI. I don’t believe that C & G knew from the begining that she was dead. I believe they came to realize down the road G before C. I dont agree with everything (most) things they have said and done, I just feel for their pain.
They had to discuss the car after the 911 call said it smelled like a dead body. LE already confiscated it by the interview with G, and he appeared candid with them at that time, except for saying he dropped it off and went to work, telling C it was rotten pizza with maggots, when she was a nurse and would fully recognize the odor for what it was. I would think they both went into cleaning mode at that point.
G told Le that he let C believe it was the pizza, that he didn’t think she could take the rest of the story. As for going to work, they didn’t even know that Caylee was missing when he left for work He called Lv and asked him to go check on C after she had told him that she had m but not Caylee. IF you want to deny something you have to make up another explanation. G was a homicide det before, he would have known how to clean up after a crime much better than this. He also told the investigators that the truth needed to come out no matter what.
cfc - You said, “they had to explain away all the evidence.” I’m very afraid they did far more than explain it away. They washed, scrubbed, and disinfected it away. If not G then surely C did it and intentionally. Just like she gave LE the wrong hair brush on purpose.
Let’s take guesses on how long before the ants are off in hot pursuit of the “real” Zanny?
There will be sightings from New York to Mexico! And very likely wherever Larry King’s show is produced.
In the transcripts of interviews, it says Casey called her boyfriend, Tony Lazzaro to come pick her up at the car place because something was wrong with it. I find it odd that he did not even question her as to why she left her purse in the car. Most people, especially chicks, don’t do that. I think she wanted the car stolen.
Saluki - That’s right. YOu said, “He claimed that the jail was unprofessional in not allowing him to break the news to M.” He just couldn’t get his fat ass over there! Why should the jail hold off on telling her when she might hear it by accident? Perfectly professional and considerate to have the jail chaplain tell her. What a terrible experience for M! Having to improvise shock and grief on the spur of the moment without BB’s coaching!
zenasmom- I dont think M let Tony near enough to the car for him to see the purse. She told him not to bother helping her with it because her Dad was going to take care of it. He may not even have gotten out of his car. Just picked her up. And I do agree that she was hoping it would be stolen.
That Jose speaks well and is very polite but he’s got a thingy for that client of his. He is a little bit “too” fatherly. Creepy.
ps.
It’s like Baez wants to be her “savior” or something. But then, that’s how sociopath’s work, they bring you into their web.
Tony says in his interview that M was waiting and had all her stuff in her hands including groceries that we believe came from G & C’s house. Everyone has guessed that she disposed of the body that day, showered at their house, got grociers and then drove to amscot and abandoned the car. She had some much stuff in her hands he probably never noticed there wasn’t a purse. Note she had her wallet with her. Also she told him she would take care of the car later. He spent so much time on unproffessional notification. That is standard procedure. He is about as narcissitic as m if he thinks le did this just to him. I think Conlay was going to cry at times when he read the ants statement.
They are still trying to influence the people that the killer is innocent and will continue to do so until the verdict is read. C & G and everyone else involved with her.
Casey killed Casey. The Ants are guilty of obstructing the police in this murder investion. I don’t care what people say: the Ants do not deserve anything other than scorn. They are the worse people in the USA. Why are you so forgiving? Because God tells us to forgive? I will forgive them when they admit the errors of their ways. Ha, that will never happen. They won’t ever admit to what they have put America through, taking pictures of innocent children, posting the children’s pictures all over the net and television, and taking money for themselves. Cindy destroying evidence, lying as much as M. George is nothing but a Cindy whipped puppet. And don’t get me started on LV. I hate the way he kept removing the memorials to Caylee. They had no respect for that baby. Caylee: Justice will prevail. The jurors will not believe BB or anything he saids. My candle has all ready been lit for you everyday since you have been found, lying in that horrible, dank place./////// JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!!!!!!
Sorry, CASEY KILLED CAYLEE!!! I am so upset!!! It is hard to think, let along to type.
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Not-so-cruel - Judge you? Get this straight. I do not care who you are. You obviously do not form opinions based upon merit. Perhaps you can identify with weaknesses which cause others to produce “inconsistencies.” That type behavior is simply unacceptable to myself or any of the other Caylee supporters. Simple laymen’s terms, a distinction between right and wrong.
It is the adult’s responsibility to stand up for their children or any child in an abusive situation. If a parent or grandparent will not stand up for the rights of the child, then what useful purpose is accomplished.
22 years seems ample time to have recognized her for the type person she really is, i.e. the money she stole from them personally, the money she stole from her poor old grandparents, the lies even to include lying that she was not really pregnant. Now if they believed that, they must be suffering from presenile dementia.
Should we feel sympathy for people who condoned and enabled this type behavior, continuing to allow the child’s mom to neglect and expose her to “adult parties,” i.e. uninhibited sexual activities. Would a caring individual allow their grandchild to be treated like trash even while she was alive. Not I. Does not meet my criteria for caring grandparents, especially in view of the fact that it was your iconic maw-maw who stated that she herself “had raised the child.” Get your head out before you suffocate!
Didn’t M even have a story about where her Dad took the car for repairs and what was wrong with it? Hey, Mollybear, forums tend to slow down about this time, NG is on.
I know Ng is on. Val, I am listening, crying, and trying to post at the same time. It is so sad!!! I know we all knew little Caylee was dead, but to see her thrown out like trash is so hurtful.
Elaine…
How elequent.. You made some wonderful points! Good job..
When I saw the “hey” I thought you were wondering where everyone went, lol, my bad. Yes it is truly sad, seeing the finality of it. I don’t know why the grandparents would leave her with M 5 min. alone, knowing their daughter’s character.
Flash, you said everything I couldn’t even begin to express. Thank you!
I have been watching this story about Caylee for months I would rush home from work to watch Nancy Grace so I could see updates when hearing that they found her I was not shocked in my heart I felt it was her laying alone dead what a shame why is all I ask my God if you don’t want a child give them up so they can live and you can do what ever it is you want to you she wanted to party like a Rock Star steal her frends and parents money act like a star and while in jail she still wants to be a star she makes me sick their is help for mothers who want it she is a hot mess that i hope never gets peace in jail I have been a mother since I was seventeen my childeren mean the world to me I missed out on things when I was a young mother thank God my mother was there for me when I look back it was all worth it the love the smiles the hus I will never get enough of Ms Thing is a selfish monster I also watch her when she was in publc she did’nt give a care about the beautifful baby being missing she only cared for number one herself period when her parents went to see her in jail her mom told her how much the rewared was she stated that half of my bond that’s when I Knew she was animal! Well she will never be a star in my eyes Caylee will be a star in heaven with God and Ms thing will be one of the Devil’s Wives.
flash question do you have kids?
Do you know what they are doing when you cant see them?
I doubt that they knew she was going to “those parties”
Remember we all care about Caylee and should discuss differing opinions not JUDGE those who disagree. IMO
ConcernedforCayle, 7:20…
I have thought this ‘theory’ many, many times. It would cetainly explain alot.. execpt she was ‘one day short’..
I believe your theory could quite possibily be the exact thing that happened. It ALL makes sense to me..
Larry King has the Caylee case on now if anyone wants to watch. I am taping it, and he has on the hero who found our baby, Caylee.
Lilred said,in December 19th, 2008 at 8:56 pm ConcernedforCayle, 7:20…
It makes sense to me, too, LILRED!!!
LILRED: you asked why i keep leaving the blog. I don’t like confrontations, and it seemed like a good time to take a break, and get my house and church ready for Christmas. Now I just have to wait on Santa. So as Christmas comes closer, my mind is on our Caylee who will not be celebrating on earth, but she will be in Heaven with Jesus.
anyone have any thoughts on the meter reader calling le back in aug? I am not sure how I feel about that. I dont get the idea he was involved at all. Just seems kinda strange, hopefully le will release reports that were written about the calls that can help explain that. I am afraid the defense is going to argue that means that Caylee died after M was in jail therefore she didn’t do it.
Hello,
This mother has not only taken the life of her child but the sense of a lot of us.
I have to agree with “Not so cruel” in that the Anthonys deserve to grieve in peace. “not so cruel” is saying that he/she does not condone them or support them, just that as human beings, they deserve to be left alone. I am a mother of three; I cannot honestly tell you right this minute how I would react if one of my daughters did something like this. As a parent, your heart splits in half. One half ‘knows’ that you should turn your back on her and let her sink; the other half, wants so hard to believe her that eventually you do believe her.
My daughters are good kids; as far as I can see, I cannot swear that they act the same way when I’m not around; when they are with their friends.
If we look at the pictures and videos of the mom with the baby, there is nothing in those videos or pictures to indicate that she treated her like trash. ON the contrary, she appears to be a loving mother; then again, where were these videos/pics taken? in front of at least one of her parents.
Stealing money from your family and telling lies does not a murderer make so her parents could possibly have seen a side of her that she wanted them to see.
I think there is a greater power that will and is the only one that has the right to, judge not just the mother but the grandparents and uncle as well.
To “Not so cruel” don’t let people discourage you; pray for the grandparents that they may find peace and consolation from the loss of their grandchild and that their minds get cleared so they can accept the truth about their daughter.
That’s what we all should do, instead of playing cop, judge and jury. The mother will get what she deserves and if the grandparents had anything to do with it, so shall they, in the meantime, they have a right to grieve and feel just like any other human being.
Aww no way I sure hope not!
bbl
Yes it is just a very emotional stressful day/night and it is gettng the better of us….I am sorry for my actions previously..when I was in disagreemant with oh P it was….please..lets all get along for Caylee’s sake…
jail chaplain told the girl’s mother that the remains were her daughter at the Orange County jail just before the news conference began. Her attorney, Jose Baez, was with her at the jail shortly after.
“This is her private moment,” Baez said. “This is her life she’s trying to battle through right now.”
I hear that!
Brad Conway, an attorney who represents George and Cindy Anthony, Casey’s parents, said they will cooperate with investigators.
“They know now their precious granddaughter is safe and can serve as a guardian angel to protect missing children and their families,” Conway said
Well I am sorry…but thats all done now…my candle is burning on my counter….nice and soflty….killr is behind bars with her head between her legs kissing her ass behind..sianora b~~ cus she gunna go away for a long time…
She refused the Pastor cus she didnt want to be preached at for her crime…she has no love for Caylee and she cant even fake it no more not even to a pastor…she refused him cus shes mad they found Caylee….
Yew guys gunna call the radio show on SUnday?
CHSAH are you here, I hope I didn’t lose you!
Hey pickles, you are right about M….. she is definately mad about them finding Caylee. BB sounds as pathetic and narcissitic as m does. Le should have told him first so he could loving tell m…. what a joke. She got the same treatment any other inmate would have gotten. Don’t even get me started on the unprofessional Le…. I think bb is just saying that when he is the one who has been unprofessional and incompetent. Todd Black….. Even the Ants said thanks to investigators for their hard work on this case.
Pickles said,in December 19th, 2008 at 9:43 pm
She refused the Pastor cus she didnt want to be preached at for her crime…she has no love for Caylee and she cant even fake it no more…
I wonder if there is ANYthing in her that will bring her to her knees? Please God, I beg the DP be reintroduced..this may be the only hope in getting her confession
If that duct tape is over her nose and mouth. I think the dp might come back.
Mollybear, glad to see you are back for awhile. I missed you!!!
Yes, Christmas is jus around the corner, I have been bee-bopping from wrapping present to checking this blog!!!
I think we all now just need to wait.. we actually have no choice anyway!
I think justice will prevail, and M will get what she is deserving of.
I kept hoping in the back of my mind(way back)that she would be found alive..
So now is everyones time to grieve… life is so very precious..THIS baby was so precious.l.. It is a sad time for all.
“This is her private moment,” Baez said. “This is her life she’s trying to battle through right now.”
WOW.. HER life? Isn’t she special. HER life wouldn’t need to be “battled through” if she hadn’t taken her DAUGHTER’S life!
Somehow, Baez manages to skew everything he says.
Has it ever been reported if there is a MRS Baez? I wonder how many Baez clients get such special attention? In a few years, I wouldn’t be surprised if there is a prison wedding .. HA!
cfc-I really hope it does anyway
I just thought though….Scott Peterson (Laci)….he still to this DAY denies any wrongdoing. while sitting on death row. sociopaths do not have it in them, i wonder if even the DP scares her?
Can I also add- on NG they were talking about not enough forensic to prove murder one etc….the Scott Peterson case- ONE piece of forensic evidence- Laci’s ONE STRAND OF HAIR in his boat. NO death ring. Just ONE hair proving that she was in his boat. That, combined with Scott’s behaviour and demeanor after the fact, is what convicted him and put his on Death Row. Her behaviour in the months after this….that will be enough to convict her, I pray. I just can’t comprehend this senseless…….ah. man. I can’t even find the words….
Spacely - I hope you see this. I’m behind again and just now thanking you for your great post on the previous article at Spacely at 4:50 pm. Well said!
emms mum - are you in London, England? Also re your 9:54 post, I wonder if Scott Peterson is still trying to appeal. Maybe that’s why he’s not confessing. However I know we’ve all heard of even horrible serial killers who go to their death without confessing. Maybe they think that’s their “revenge?” That’s their trump card? A way to get back? In case there is any doubt in anyone’s mind? I don’t know why I continue to try to understand the understandable. It’s a waste of my time and I guess I should be grateful that I can’t see into minds like that. It must be so awful in there.
Every time I happen to read through these blogs I am tempted to join in, and on rare occassions I do, however in most cases I don’t. It just seems that there is always someone who is insulting others that do not share the same opinion as themselves, or the majority.
Not so cruel, I completely see your points, and I commend you for standing up for your opinions/beliefs.
I think it’s wrong of anyone to attack someone about thier oppinions. We should all be allowed to have and express opinions even if they aren’t what everyone else is saying.
God bless everyone of you and I pray that none of us ever have to experience anything even close to this.
May you all have a wonderful Christmas.
M2C - I am in London, Canada actually…a couple hours from Detroit. That is probably it, I am not too sure on the legal system in the US, or each individual state for that matter….I just always think of him when I see Monster…a total emptiness.
You know that clip when she first got arrested? In the blue shirt? That smirk on her face, I swear to God, if I could fly my ass down there, I’d smack it right off of her face.
Pickles at 9:41 you reported that the ants’ attorney said, “They know now their precious granddaughter is safe and can serve as a guardian angel to protect missing children and their families.’
See that is such a distasteful horrible thing to say. And the only reason they would say that THEIR granddaughter is serving as a “guardian angel to protect missing children” is to PROMOTE THEMSELVES into their new imagined careers in the missing childrens’ field. Remember they both said that? That they were going to do work in that field after this. Over my dead body, I’ll tell you. And I hope to heaven and I truly believe that there is not one legitimate organization in this country or the world that will let the ants within ten miles of them nevermind work for them.
Caylee was not missing, C & G! She was DEAD and you KNOW IT!!!!! You have NOTHING to contribute to current or missing children. The very best thing you could do is stay as far away as possible. In some cave somewhere preferably.
Thanks LILRED: I just saw that 20/20 is also going to have our Caylee on the show, first a rapist(ugh), then Caylee and then someone else. At least I think in that order.
http://www.legacy.com/GB2/OrlandoSentinel/default.aspx?PersonId=121581033
This is a Guestbook dedicated to Caylee…don’t know if the Ants will ever see it, but to commemorate Caylee’s life, maybe we should all share our condolences….
emms mum - I think we’re in a very long line to smack her across that smirky smug face. That smirk is going to be wiped off permanently soon!
I was thinking England because of our other blogger, Minnie, who is from Ireland. But I know London, Ontario. Loverly place!
CHSAH- haha!! Did I beat this blog# into your head or what!?! Are you here yet??
On the news just now… Seems Baez & Lee Anthony left the Anthony house. A crowd across the street started yelling “baby killer”.
This to me is sadly disrespectful to Caylee and so wrong. Let the family grieve.
Thoughts?
M2C- I am sure I’ve asked you, are you Cdn also? I know C~A is…..and it’s not so lovely right now, we have about 15cm of snow!
Connie - First, “not so cruel” is a misnomer for this blogger, if ever I heard one. The first thing she did was call us mean-spirited. Like she’s so high and mighty. That’s not the kind of opinion we want on this blog. Opinions about the case fine. But why criticize us? We were very compassionate towards the ants early on and slowly the ants themselves destroyed our compassion.
On this blog we are venting. We don’t have to “let them” mourn in peace. We aren’t writing, calling, emailing them or throwing stones at their house. We’re venting about how we feel (which we have every right to do and feel) and we are fed up with the ants’ antics. I think that is even MORE understandable and human than the way the ants have acted. And NSC is completely disregarding the harm the anthony’s have done to the people who were trying to help and to the investigation. Why, when something is at stake that is as important as bringing this killer to justice should we be compassionate to the people who have spent six months trying to get the killer off? And who will still try to do that?
No, I’m not Canadian but have relatives in Alberta and Toronto.
elaine - I agree. I never did like the idea of protesters at the house - at least not vocal ones. And now it’s really awful. I have to admit that PART of the reason I feel this way is that I think the ants should be entirely ignored from here on. No people outside the house. No media interest. Nothing. THe ants are nothing and should be treated as such.
Let them sit and mourn or worry about the trouble they’re in or whatever they want to do ALL by themselves. I don’t care a whit about them and they do not deserve any attention either negative or positive.
elaine - do you know if the ants’ attorney, Conway, was there too? At the same time as BB?I can’t help wondering if they’re getting their stories straight. If not now then sometime. Or maybe the ants will just try to save themselves somehow.
Connie wants Casey to Confess: Thank you. I know I am not alone in this. I also know that I am among the minority but, nothing and no insult is going to harden my heart to the point of acting so poorly toward another human being. Guilty of whatever, the grandparents are suffering and to call them names and wish that they end up in jail and all this other stuff I’ve been reading, is just the result of the hatred and anger people are feeling right now, but it does not make it right.
As for the insults, there are plenty going around, but if you notice I will not dignify any of them with a reply to the insult; to do so would make me no better than the person issuing it and I refuse to lower myself to that level.
I know I stand to be criticized, so be it, that’s the beauty of freedom of speech, we can all say what we want and express our opinions in any manner we want. I take it from where it comes. Some opinions that differ from mine make sense, some don’t, I won’t engage in that battle.
I pray for the Anthonys to find peace and acceptance in their hearts; I pray for Caylee’s soul to rest in peace in the arms of her creator.
I even pray for the mother’s soul, if she didn’t intentionally kill her child, she at least is guilty of placing her in harm’s way and then, maybe, concealing her death; she needs all the prayer she can get and then some.
Caylee: You have captured the hearts of many and today we can finally say Goodbye and God speed baby Caylee. May the Lord hold you in the palm of his hand.
M2C,,
What bother me is that they said ” They know now their precious granddaughter is safe”.
The word safe is discribe as alive and well.
Not dead and dumped in a wooded area.
Allie actually the aord safe is described as
Free from harm or risk. secure from threat or danger. Which she is now as she will never be harmed again.
allie, I agree. Do you think the lawyer is influencing what they say? Or are they being stupid all by themselves as usual? What an awful thing to say. Oh yeah we want all kids to be “safe,” C & G - just not the “murdered and thrown away to rot” kind of safe. Geez these people are SO effed up and there seems to be no end to it!
Any way you look at that statement it’s awful. Even if they meant that the child is not with a kidnapper (where for all anyone knew she may have been better cared for than with her own mother!) being dead is NOT necessarily safer! Geez!
I am sure they meant ’safe’ as in, what Dak refers to…she will never be exposed to harm again…
Going to call it a day, folks!
It’s been a big one. Try to get some rest!
Though I will say that that is a child’s MOTHER’S job. to protect them from harm.
Thanks emms that as my point exactly.
I come here and read all the posts and yet, I never posted here before.
I work in a place with 200 other people. Some of them are not even speaking to each other because of this case and what some of them have posted here.
I am only going to type here a legend that makes a lot of sense and will, I hope help some of us understand the actions and behavior of some parents:
I am not going to quote because I don’t know the exact words.
Have any of you ever heard this?
A young man was deeply in love with a princess who was very insecure and demanding.
Nothing he could say or do would convince her of his love for her.
One day, she demanded that to prove his love for her, he bring her his mother’s heart; only then would she believe he truly loved her.
The young man did just that, he killed his own mother and as he was walking up the steps to her throne, with his mother’s heart in his hands, he tripped and fell. Immediately, the heart let out a cry and said: Did you hurt yourself son?
You draw your own conclusions.
Officials at the Orange County Corrections Department said Casey Anthony was notified of the results by a chaplain about 1:45 p.m., per jail policy. One of Casey Anthony’s defense attorneys, Jose Garcia, entered the jail earlier, corrections officials said in a written statement.
“Due to happenstance, not policy, attorney Garcia was not in the presence of the inmate when the notification was made,” the statement said. “We will not be commenting on the demeanor of inmate Anthony or her reaction to the news.”
The Anthony family’s pastor, Thomas Shane Stutzman of Eastside Baptist Church, arrived at the jail about 2 p.m. but left 19 minutes later because Casey Anthony had refused his visit, as she was meeting with Garcia at the time, jail officials said.
Convenient.
So now Lee has hired himself a lawyer?
Really
Momster did her grieving back at fusion while she was getting drunk and dancing on a pole near by. If anyone thinks that this girl is going to give a tear jerking performance at trial, think again.
BB is running the show now, she is just on a free ride to freedom.
I saw that on the WFTV article..
I think everyone involved in this circus has a lawyer.
emms mum….hey there! No, didn’t get lost but hadn’t watched NG yet… so did that, and then had to “pway” with my grandaughter for awhile before bedtime. thanks for lookin’ out for me though! your a keeper!
Dak, your back….
The ant’s gave up their rights to privacy when they made their MANY cameo (M’s word) appearances on TV. To expect us all to “forget” the nauseating, ridiculous, mouth spouting, cherades they have played from the beginning, not to mention trying to get rid of evidence is ludicrus! Lv tears apart a memorial for Caylee????? This family has done nothing to “cooperate” in this investigation UNTIL now. AND only b/c they fear their own butts are in trouble. They can grieve as they need to……but it still doesn’t take away what pieces of cra* I think they all are.
Anyone who comes into this blog knowing full well the dislike for the ants by the majority of bloggers in here…. and “feels the need to express their feelings and expect us ” AFTER all that has been said and done by the ants is well…….probably a waste of your time. But hey……its YOUR time.
Well i guess we’ll just have to wait and see what happens in the near future.
Dak, your a changed man….indeed we will! But I don’t think it will be the “near” future.
Dak, how did you take the news?
Yeah I heard that it may take a year or more if they decide to go for the DP. And I said I would admit when I was wrong about Caylee being alive and I do admit I was wrong.
I took it with a lot of sadness. It was something that I knew there was a possiblity of happening so I guess in a way I prepared myself mentally. Unfortunately I am not an extremely emotional person.
Dak, well admitting you were wrong gives me a whole new perspective about you. You have earned my respect!
Thanks. Now comes a comment that may get me clobbered with criticism. I feel that this case and trial from this point is not going to go as quickly and easy as everyone is expecting.
Dak, you did what most of us weren’t able to do…..you believed. You were wrong but you held your ground, argue as we may with you. No one faulted you for believing (that was a good thing), we only showed our frustration when the obvious seemed “obvious” to us.
Dak…..not clobbers. I will agree with you on that one. It will not be a slam dunk case, but I believe that justice will prevail in the end. There is still some unanswered issues that have come up, meter man and LE calls yet to be explained, so we are far from this case being over. One FACT is certain after today….it was Caylee.
Its okay. I guess I did kind of take things wrong and say I wasn’t coming back and needed some time especially for the holidays(shopping)to kind of step back and see where things go.
Another thing too and we will no more after the rest of the test come back and that would be cause of death. And also how long her body was at that area.
Dak…..again, an admiral thing to do (step back). You just had your mind set that you wanted Caylee to be alive (and so did all we) and therefore you didn’t want to believe what seemed obvious to us. Not gonna beat you up for that. You’ve came back on and admitted you were wrong about Caylee being alive, so imo, you have earned some respect on here with me anyway.
Dak, I hope the further testing will reveal more than the initial autopsy. It will only help in the prosecution. I doubt the defense will do their own autopsy now, do you?
Dak…and I have to admit, I did beat you up a few times! lol…..but your ok with me. We just messed with you alot and you were like the eveready bunny….you kept going and going….pretty tough cookie to crack you were! lol…just kiddin’ ya! I knew you’d be back……not a bad thing!
I will say that I agree with a couple others about the Ants. I think people should atleast for a few days give them some peace to deal with the loss. They may or may not have changed anything in this case with their actions. Now is the time for them do redemn themselves in the coming days. I for one can not judge,comdmen,criticize, or accuse someone while they are grieving. I never really approved of what they said or did, but something tells me there is nothing they could have done to bring Caylee home(heaven) any sooner. I don’t think there is anything they could have done to get Casey to talk.
I think they will do a second autopsy.
Dak…….hmmmmmm, your making way to much sense than the old Dak (lol). That was an excellent blog comment. I do agree with you 100%! They do need to grieve but it is going to be hard for alot of people to give them that space. I think what you said abit ago…..see what happens next. I hope they give society and the world the same respect (to grieve) b/c we all felt a connection to Caylee is our own way. If the Ant’s start spouting their mouths again…..it won’t be easy. Make sense?
Makes sense.
I don’t think they will do a second autopsy just b/c they have a “homicide” no cause of death. They do a second autopsy…..they risk the chance of a homicide with a cause of death. Do you think they’d risk that?
Another reason I haven’t been on here is that my wife has been worj=king some serious overtime at work so daddy had to take care of the kids. I must say its bee good as my daughter has become more affectionate to me. And after hearing about this being Caylee has given me different look at my life and my families.
I don’t think they would risk it but has anything they done made sense.
I know this is going to sound bad and stupid but what if (and its a big if)somehow Casey didn’t kill Caylee what do you think would happen.
awwwww….that’s awesome of you to say about ur daughter and u!
It doesn’t sound stupid but I’m not sure I understood your question, do you mean what do I think happened if M didn’t do it?
Yes.
I honestly couldn’t tell you Dak b/c from day one I have always felt she did it. I have never waivered from that so never thought about it. What about you (and I promise not to beat you up! lol)
I’m not sure I mean it looks obvious she did do it but I feel there is something fishy, probably an accomplice or something.
The first confusion I have ever had in this case is with the meter man and LE calls…..soemthing isn’t right but don’t know what it is. I don’t think the meter man was involved and the LE guy maybe did a shoddy job of following thru but I just am not sure at this point.
I won’t rule out accomplice, I just am not sure at which point….the death or concealing the death or helping dispose of a body???? I won’t say that isn’t possible.
Yeah thats the fishy part. So many conflicted stories on that.
I will have to say that this is the first time in this case that I am a little worried about what is up with that part of this case!
Me too.
Hey, my grandaughter won’t go to be without me so I have to go. I have actually enjoyed blogging with you tonight. I’m sad it took finding the remains of Caylee to bring us to a point where we can look at each other’s point of view without getting defensive, but hey……it is something good that came out of such a horrific case. Come back tomorrow night…..maybe we may know more by then????
be was suppose to be bed! lol
Goodnite.
nite dak.
not so cruel I agree with your opinion about the ants… but the next couple of weeks will be real telling to me. If after they have absorbed the shock and everything and then come out hollering police frame up, or zani. Then I will personally come on here and tell all of you that I thought you were wrong about the ants. but I stand corrected. I think they have been given bad advice by bb(who is really helping his own cause) trusted media, wanted to justify ecvidence at whatever cost to believe Caylee was a lie. If they do really cooperate with Le, then they will be shown evidence and then their reaction will tell me where they are going. I think it is one thing to love your child and stand by them, I might could stand by my child if they admitted what they did and took their rightful consequences. Lord willing I will never have to find out.
Dear Heavenly Father please wrap arms of comfort around all of the heartbroken people in this world tonight. So many people are devasated over Caylee Marie Anthony. Help each of us to sleep without nightmare images, help us face a new day with hope, and maybe with a resolve to work in our communities to make sure we do everything we can to make sure this doesn’t happen in our community. Help take away the pain so we can smile when we see pictures or video of our little angel singing “you are my sunshine” With the peace give us the strength to support and encourage each other as we continue to follow this case in the search for JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE. All these things we pray in Jesus Name. AMEN.
concernedforcaylee: That’s all I’m saying. Time to grieve in peace. Once they have accepted this tragedy, if they continue to rant and rave and act the same way they have been acting, I’ll be the first one to say they were wrong, I still won’t call them names or bash them; that’s just not in me to lower myself to something as childish as name-calling but, I will say I was wrong about their motives for acting the way they have. A decent period of mourning, acceptance should help them see a clearer picture of what their daughter may have done.
She may have intentionally and in a premeditated manner killed her child, I don’t know that for a fact but it sure looks that way. She may have accidentally killed the child, I don’t know that either; all I know is that either way, no matter how or what happened, she is responsible for the wellbeing of that child and she is therefore responsible for what ultimately happened to her.
As for the grandparents, they need to see that, to accept that perhaps their own flesh and blood is capable of this act; but for now, they need time to mourn the loss of their precious baby without the insults and mean comments people are making not just about them but TO them. Yesterday, someone passed by the house and shouted “CAYLEE IS DEAD!!!!!” that, I find totally uncalled for. After a reasonable period time has passed, I’ll re-evaluate my position based on their actions.
Until then, I stand by what I said: DENIAL, the inability to accept the baby was dead and their child may have done it, combined with the fear that maybe she was dead may have been the root of all their actions.
Well no, I have not been in the situation that, Cindy and George or in, (never will) so I cant say what I would do in detail…But, I DO know who I am, I would never have done what they did. Sorry!!!
First off, I would have never let Casey get away with the crap she did waaaaayyy before she killed her daughter, I have always made my children take account for their own actions, not blamed things on their friends, or bailed them out etc….Not that I ever needed too much, I didn’t raise them to act any such away as Casey has period, taught them early that lying was wrong, hurting people is wrong, only caring about yourself is wrong. Made them help out some around the house. Didnt just hand them everything they wanted.
You love, children unconditionally, but Casey wasn’t a child!!! You have to put conditions on Adult relationships (even your own adult children, sometimes), Children don’t know better, Casey is not a child.
Loving her no matter what is one thing, you will always do that as a parent, but standing by them when they are adults is another, when you shouldnt be! Like they bailed her out, when she took the money from the nursing home. That is why Casey turned out like she did!!! Cause they raised her and treated her like they are now!!! They should of made her accountable for theft, instead they talked the nursing home out of bringing charges against her, and paid the money back themselves.
Just because, I am a parent of Adult children, don’t give them the right to treat me like, I have to put up with them no matter what…just because, they are mine, and I had them. And, I don’t have the right to treat them like a child either, now that they are adults.
Sometimes, there are parents who have to choose between a child and a grand child, I would always choose the child (I know that, because I know me, (not saying, that decision would be easy either, but I would do it). Casey did this to her daughter, and her parents, nobody else, not people on the forums, protesters, the law, or the media. The reason people feel so much, like they have to stand up, is because Cindy and George wouldnt!!! If, they had, maybe their wouldn’t be so much attention on this case, from the public. The protesters, all they was trying to do, is wake Cindy and George up!!! Not be mean to them.
Yeah, I know what I would do, if I was in their shoes!!! If Cindy when, she sees that little casket, don’t wake up then, SHE NEVER WILL! Now, its going to take a Judge, law enforcement, other people in prison, that are going to teach Casey, what her parents never DID!!! Trust me they WILL!!! Thank you GOD!!! Casey wants to go to the burial, so she can put on her act in front of her parents, I hope Cindy and George see through it to the truth!!! But, I really doubt they will. Why? Because, of their response since the beginning. They’ll blame someone else instead of their daughter, just like the daughter they raised, blamed someone else(cause mommy and daddy taught her too, and still are). You know the old saying, The apple never falls to far from the tree.
Sorry. I really do not see how anything said on this blog could possibly disrupt the “peace” the ants want to grieve whether it’s two days or two years. I do not think they are reading this blog. Certainly, if they are mourning they should not be. I agree that screaming things at them or their house is terrible. Sheriff Beary already told the public when the remains were found that people would be taken to jail if they caused a disturbance at the house. And they should be. If I were in spitting distance of the ants I would not speak nor spit but “talking” on this blog? Sorry, supposedly “not so cruel,” I’ll say what I like when I like.
M2C. you go girl!!!!! This is America.. freedom of speech!!!
This is a blog for our ‘feelings, intuitions and opinons’, you are free to say whatever you like..
If ‘not so cruel’ is not happy here, then maybe she/he should find another blog. we are family in this room, if you feel like saying
something - of course nothing mean against each other - THEN say it!
My prob for a long time was I was afraid of being ridiculded by a certain group of people.. no longer here… So M2C, say how you feel, that is what we are here for.
Thank you, Lilred!
I understand the point of view I just think it’s totally misplaced. Kind of like saying “stop driving by the ants house” to people who aren’t even in Orlando.
I can understand sending that message to media perhaps and certainly to anyone bothering the ants at their home but on this blog? It’s ridiculous! Like this blog disturbs their mourning somehow? That does not compute.
It’s nonsensical.
Saluki…
I wanted to thank you for telling me what kind of pups you had..(many, many comments ago!)LOL… greyhounds are awesome, do you have any pics of them?? I am always supporting the greyhound rescue group.. for greyhounds that can no longer compete in running.. it is a wondrful organization.
I have to ask a question, is “saluki’ a kind of dog??? I thouht it was. or maybe I am jst goooofy!!!
I also do not understand the lecturing on denial as if that’s a new concept to us. We’ve been talking about that for months! Of course they are in denial! Whether that’s an official psychiatric excuse for anything they’ve done that’s illegal is not for me to say. I can say that the ants sure have taken the benefits of “denial” just as far as they possibly can for the sake of their daughter and themselves and left poor Caylee in the dust. It’s selfish really.
Even if it is genuine I think that C made a choice and chose denial. G did not. He told the truth to LE and then stood next to his wife and joined in her lying. He was never in denial. In public he was enabling C’s denial and is very much to blame - along with others -for the terrible fiascos over the past 6 months.
M2C.. i agree.
It is not like we are e-mailing the contents of this blog to their home. DUH
We have been following this case since day one.. we have a strong bond here.. we should be able to tell each other what we think. Some comments made by others, should be let unsaid.. IMO
hi all didnt know we moved i wa so sad y/day i couldnt blog like a big empty space inside, im just greatfull they found our angel and soon she can rest in peace maybe something good can come out of this tragedy, maybe there is another controlling person out there who wont make the same misteaks, i wach my g/kids anytime my daughter goes out no prob, but i also know shes not like m and nothing would happen if i didnt, i hope le has proof positive of m guilt and this case doesnt end up in mistrial, i think m should confess but no chance of that maybe theyl offer her a deal,
Good morning everyone. I had to take a break from posting last night, so I could absorob the news. Yesterday was so sad for me…
watching NG was also very hard. I think for me now that a death has been confirmed, its getting harder to watch all the coverage and details because its upsetting and angering. For me I will never forget little caylee.. she brought so many people together in love and caring…
It also woke me up to my own world, and how we should all be taking this tragedy and letting it make us realize about our own lives and children…and never take anything for granted…
I also think the wait for the trial will be a long one. To sit daily and keep having so much anger isnt working for me…so, I will hope and have faith , that the prosecution will do its job. and justice will be served…
We’re fast approaching Christmas, (and battling snowstorms)…lol
If i am not on much its for the reasons of snow, work and sadness
I will be listening tomorrow to everyone on the radio show..
Dak glad to see you back on here..
Hi liver miss pickles, MTC and anna everyone…
saluki@7:11 where did you see the vidio of bb at???
A while ago another blogger mentioned that they thought C’s problem was “cognitive dissonance.” I agree. I think denial is a part of cognitive dissonance which is:
“The feeling of uncomfortable tension which comes from holding two conflicting thoughts in the mind at the same time.
Dissonance is often strong when we believe something then do something against that belief. If I believe I am good but do something bad, then the discomfort I feel as a result is cognitive dissonance.” That’s C to a tee.
I think in some small way I had heled out hope she wouldnt be found and if not found, no body, then in that wau I could imagine somewhere she ws playing, happy and alive, to have it confirmed really got to me…
she is no longer here, her precious little life gone..I want justcie for this,
its gotten so confusing the whole case, meter reader etc, i dont know anymore how I feel… but, I do have faith, prosecution will win and caylee will not die without justice, that I am sure of…
alot of good posts in both rooms, alot of people with alot of emotions,
IMO to have the fbi come to you one week before the holy day and confirm your granddaughter is indeed dead, well, I cannot fathom or imagine, how the ants are feeling, and to also be told your daughter most likely did this, well, I will have some sympathy and not hold anger towards people who ultimately M caused on them.. for that I have forgiveness,, for M…NONE
The statement that their attorney made is that they are going to cooperate with Le. Lets give them the chance to follow through on what they are saying.
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They had their chance months and months ago! If they would have co-operated in the beginning she may have been found and cause of death might have been determined. Caylee instead lay out in the woods because of decisions made by these people! Selfish decisions to take the easy way out, as usual
even ng was trying not to cry, did you guys see that, i only hope something good comes out of this, that some other parent will notice any sighns something could be wrong and take steps to prevent another tragedy like this one, in jon benee case even tho they thought the parents did it they never arrested them, no evedine to
I will reserve my forgiveness! At least for now, there is nothing these people can do or say to change what I have seen them do and say for months now. None of it was for the sake of little Caylee!
oh I can’t wait to see how the fact m has no REMORSE will factor into her sentencing. The fact that she has 0 remorse, geez they might just inject her right there in the courtroom, she’s in the negative red zone for remorse for god sake!
CA - Yes. It feels a little bit like we are waiting for the ants to catch up with us. We’ve been mourning Caylee for six months.
So,now that THEY finally “know” (or will admit to it publicly) WHAT are they going to do “after” they mourn? I would suggest that all three of them keep both lips pressed firmly together - but not on M’s butt.
so we still doont know half the story???? unbelievable, cant immagine how it will change again, also if they let m out for the funeral someone really might hurt her, im sure bb will say something about that to!! wonder if her story will change again!!
anna, if LE let’s monster out for the funeral I will throw up. It would be such a dishonor to Caylee. I sure do hope they do NOT do that!
Their story…that says it all! It’s fiction while the rest of are watching a documentary of factual events!
Anyone know if the ants are in posession of the remains. Except for the bit down in quantico? I wonder how many of the bones have been accounted for in respect to burying her whole?
Mornin
Dak… glad to have you back!!! (hey, that rymes!!)
Return of the Dak…w000t bout time
emms mum said,in December 19th, 2008 at 9:48 pm
Any dude can bring her to her knees
pammyliz: This is not the first time that LE told the ants that Caylee is dead. Le informed them months ago after the first tests on the stuff in the trunk. They just refused to believe the science. And I truly believe that if no remains had ever been found they would have continued to refuse to believe the science forever.
And they’ve known that M did it even longer than that.
So my sympathy factor is heavily diluted by the “about time” factor!
M2c….
Your comment about having c & g’s mouths shut.. but not on m’s butt craked me up!!! LMAO
Morning Pickles…
Hey Red..hows it goin?
CA - BB wants a second autopsy. It will be a while before the ants have the remains.
And I wonder how it could possibly help the defense to “find” a cause of death that could possibly help M.
Her refusing to see the pastor just shows her immaturity even more..she is a pissie spoiled ass rotten b~~ who only loves herself…she is pissed they found Caylee and she is showing it…..pathetic
its killr whos been pushing for them to see the body..I read somwhere…I think its so she can fine tooth her story
She refused the pastor cus she dont want to be harped on or to have to pray for Caylees safe acent into heaven..she dont even want to pray for Caylee now that she has been f0und…that to me speaks alot….what mother wuldnt want to pray with the pastor when there childs bones are found….a mother who killed there kid..thats who..
Pammyliz….sapponin…dahling?
Flash, 8:43 pm post…
What you said is exactly how I feel also.. it was a great post.
We have always been here for Caylee, Caylee alone…
C&G have acted completey wrong, in just about everything they did,
except the 2nd 911 call..
After that, it has been lies upon lies upon lies..
I feel bad they lost their grandchild, but I feel worse that they ‘threw Caylle to the wolves’ to support their monster child. I do not know how they can live with themselves..
Did he say he saw something in particular in August on those three calls?
NIEVES: Yes, one of things was, was a gray bag that he called in along the road or along a fence. And we then went out there, conducted our follow-up, but he was not there. It was probably, as we handle hundreds of these calls, where someone calls in, he makes a complaint or gives us a tip, and they’re not necessarily there to meet a deputy, and that is what occurred on the first instance.
On the second, he called our Crimeline tip line, reported the information, and that information was then turned over to our Criminal Investigations Division for follow-up. At that time, we were still looking into the circumstances of what occurred. That tip was closed out with the information that some of the area had been already searched. But this is a large area, a long streets, also, with a lot of wooded area. We had done follow-up at the end of that cul-de-sac, as well, because we had received previous reports.
KEATING: … Following the third tip from this guy, that they finally went thoroughly into those woods and not so thoroughly at all
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,470007,00.html
mtc - oh the ever so interferring boboob…what is the damn point. What does he think he is gonna come up with, a cause of death for us? Oh yah, LE is incompetent so the remains are prolly of an 8 year old boy
Hey Pickles.. are you going on the radio this Sunday?? It would not be the same without you!!
Red..I agree I USE to sympathize for them so much but now lie after lie and now this…they want to know who did it even if its there daughter…they know…who did it…I bet they are going to really let loose with the Caylee memorial fund now
Yappers..Red I will be there
That mother in Florida … I’ve said it from the beginning,” Walsh said. “My opinion, she murdered her child and that people would be lucky if they ever found her body. Now I think they have. Now they can prosecute her.”
See thats why John Walsh never got involved
If convicted of first-degree murder, Anthony faces an automatic life sentence as prosecutors have announced they will not seek the death penalty. Her trial is scheduled for March
Moore said Anthony is not on suicide watch and is not on psychological observation status. She remains in Protective Custody Level One in the Female Detention Center. There has been no change in her custody status.
Allie… 10:58 pm last night…
Yup, pole dancing is the answer to grief… my mother died in March, and that was exactly what I did.!! even intalled a pole in my house..
for grieving purposes only!!! (kidding of course!) LMAO
I like Pickles said earlier today(?), I would love the smack that smirk right off M’s face. No more pole dancing Miss M!!!!
My candle is lit today…Im going to burn it till its gone…not just for Caylee now but for all of the children…jaaah
No I didnt say it but I will take credit for it
No more pole dancing or cramming her mouth full of mens junk…aww poor baby..no more gettng on her knees in the sand schlobbng on knob…oooh poor killr….
I am just in a pickle of a mood today…sorry!!
I apologize…for my pervo comment…I just think its pathetic…I read some stuff her friend said bout her remarking that Caylee was gettng in the way of her sex life and then I see them pics and how can any woman choose that over her child…I mean its just ridiculous….
CA..
this might have been answered already, but I thought they said her remains are still at Dr. G morgue.. I may be wrong..
I can not understand why they (ants) would do another autopsy… Hasn’t this child been thru enough?? hmmm…
Anyway, peeps, good to see everyone this AM. I need to go.. I have Christmas party today… and tomorrow.. eeks.
bbl
But the only clue they give about her death is that her bones didn’t suffer trauma, said Orange County medical examiner Dr. Jan Garavaglia
Cant wait till they test the hairs..and marrow
Thats what killr is worried about..she went to such lengths to hide the body and now not only do they have bone marrow but they have hair cus she is so stupid and duct taped it to her head!!
Pebble-sized bones
It took authorities several days to analyze the remains since they were found last Thursday, and some are still undergoing tests. Some of the bones were as small as pebbles and had been scattered. Excavators searching on their hands and knees had a hard time finding the fragments
L8drs Red….have fun….
“Dr G: Medical Examiner — said authorities concluded Caylee was killed through DNA tests and “circumstantial evidence.” She said she was certain this was a homicide, not an accidental death, and didn’t expect further testing to reveal a specific cause.
Im sur they will test her hair
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28322614/
Pickles… haha!! I just to repy to your comments!! Hilarious..
Oh she can get on her knees now.. but it better be in prayer.. cause she is going to need it.. BIG TIME!!
ok, outta here..
xo
She wont pray…she wuldnt even pray with the pastor….I fargn hate her…Caylee is so mezmorizng they all are….poor baby Caylee
Pebble sized bones…..little tiny bones…
“homicide of undetermined means,” said Orange County chief medical examiner Dr. Jan Garavaglia. The medical examiner has asked for toxicology tests to be performed on the remains.
They are going to find out !!!
The discovery of a body was not an unanticipated possibility for Casey’s defense attorney Jose Baez, Baez’s spokesman Todd Black told ABC News.
“From the beginning we started preparing for the worst,” Black told ABC News last week. “We were working under the assumption that a body could be found
It was the position of Casey Anthony all along, the one that Baez represented in court, that Casey gave up the child to “a third party,” Black said.
She is going to try and blame the zanny or whoever it is now she is sayng took Caylee from her that day…she is pathetic and drug tests will say otherwise…
Pickles, I thought Dr G said she did not think that further testing was going to reveal the cause of death. So that rules out hair etc.
Good morning all, I can’t stay on for long. I need to get some work done around my house. I hope that everyone recognizes me as a longtime blogger here. I am confused by something and hope to see it cleared up so everyone can continue here. I have read the posts by not so cruel, and personally I want (maybe I am in denial) To believe there is a rational reason for the ants behavior (delusional,medicated, desperate.) I still want to hold out hope. Most of you who do remember me know that I always have tried to take the side of what until you have solid proof of what they knew and where they stand. I have long maintained that after C finds out Caylee is dead (with body) She herself would personally go after m. In one of her statements she said she didn’t care where M was only Caylee and she still doesn’t. I believe she was being nice to m hoping (desperately) that M’s story was correct anything else meant that Caylee was dead.
I also know like you all that they have said many many many stupid things, twisted stories and statements, and all to publically defend that Caylee is alive. I don’t understand why you would do that. So I do understand why everyone in here is mad at the Ants.
WHat I don’t understand are the comments above that indicate if you don’t agree with the second opinion then you don’t belong in this room because this room is for people who care about Caylee only. I think everyone in here does care about Caylee, for example I don’t think dak would keep coming back if he didnt care, but refused forever to accept that Caylee was even dead. That doesn’t mean he should leave or that he doesn’t care. I have avoided conflict in here and when it got nasty for a while I just didn’t have the energy to deal with that and some things in personal life. So I chose not to be here till it settled down.
My point by this post is that we can care and love Caylee very much and disagree with each other these are examples of comments made but I am not saying who made them.
Sorry, supposedly “not so cruel,” I’ll say what I like when I like.
We have been following this case since day one.. we have a strong bond here.. we should be able to tell each other what we think. Some comments made by others, should be let unsaid.. IMO
Not-so-cruel - Judge you? Get this straight. I do not care who you are. You obviously do not form opinions based upon merit. Perhaps you can identify with weaknesses which cause others to produce “inconsistencies.” That type behavior is simply unacceptable to myself or any of the other Caylee supporters. Simple laymen’s terms, a distinction between right and wrong
I think that we should be allowed to express our opinions in here freely. Just because not so cruel, myself and maybe a small few others feel this way is no reason to say that we are making decisions without merit. Whether these comments are meant to be mean or not they are. Saying that some comments should be left unsaid> That goes against the spirit of this room. I don’t care who you are? I thought this room was filled with family who joined a to bond over Caylee Marie Anthony.
If this is the general consenses of this room that those of us with a minority opinion do not belong. Please let me know now. I have been a part of this room for a very long time, offering up ideas, debating theories, and praying for Caylee. I should have as much rght to say anything as anyone else. And no should question my motive towards Caylee. Anyone who wants can go back as far as they want. my motive has and always will be Justice for Caylee Marie Anthony.
Good Mornin everyone!
Good morning to you Pattie ann
Hello miss pickles, and CA and everyone!
Yah we are digging out deep in michigan, alot of snow..
yesterdays news really affected me more than I thought.. I spent time with my kdi all night, and was the first time ever i had a heard time watching nancy grace..
When all is said and done M will pay for this crime, and IMO ants will not be charged, they will go their life, without their grandbaby and their daughter, and life for them will be hideous beyond imagination, each birthday of caylees, holidays,
I want to see a finger print of Caseys on that duct tape and see her face turn white with fear!
I do not think C&G will be the ones pushing for the 2nd autopsy it will be M and they have some very suspicious specialist so you never know what they will get… or not get..
<3
Shan
This whole case has for me, as it im sure has for many others, made me hold on to my grandchildren as I never have .. Tight…
We are digging out here in NY also Pammyliz!
brrrrr…..it snowed a bunch last night! I have my candle for Caylee in my big window!
Yesterday when I found out the news my sweet little 18 month old son came up to me cuz I was obviously tearing up and gave me a hug and a kiss.. Oh boy as if I wasn’t crying bad enough. It really made me feel better and I appreciate his little sweet soul even more than I ever have.
Yes Shan I have felt that with my babies too!
cfc - Thank you for your post@ 10:05! I agree with you and its something I think needed to be said.
anytime. as everyone says we are a family and we all care about Justice for Caylee. I am looking forward to when they release more evidence that we can discuss and compare points of view. That is when this blog is at its best. WE have some phenominal people in this room with such a wide range of knowledge, experience and instinct. That all have value even if we disargee. Thank you for the comment. I am hopeful that most feel the way you do.
I gotta work in my yard for a while I will check back. We have no snow here. it is in the 60’s today I think, high will be in 70’s
Absolutely… Im on pins and needles for any new info.. Definately Justice is what needs to happen now for true closure!
Mytwocents
The medical examiner has asked for toxicology tests to be performed on the remains.
They are going to do a drug toxicology on the hair and bone marrow
They stated that there wuld be further testing toxicology wise….to determine if Caylee had anything in her system that killed her
talk to you later cfc lucky you its like 20 here lol
Ill go find the article I read that from
Yes they say they can tell if its there just not necessarily if it killed her that part sucks tho
C & G got what they wanted !
Their smoke screen worked. Their live Caylee search took center stage allowing her remains to be overlooked until now.
The medical examiner has asked for toxicology tests to be performed on the
remains.http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-bones2008dec20,0,6821621.story
Jentzen, director of autopsy and forensic services at the University of Michigan, said heavy metals might be detectable in bones, hair or nails. Chloroform and some other poisons, however, would not
They may not beable to tell if she wus drugged
In response to - concernedforcaylee December 20th, 2008 at 10:05 am.
That was kind of the point I was trying to make as well. I have chosen not to join in on most occassions and have only been reading these blogs since just about the beginning, because I’ve seen how some will attack an opinion that doesn’t fit exactly with thiers. And…of course…I was attacked for it as well! I do feel that a lot of people here are very decent and allow others to have opinions even if they disagree, they don’t call names and rip you apart. But a few have been very nasty to others who don’t say exactly what “they’re expected to”.
The fact that the child died under suspicious circumstances of an abduction, that would be enough. And the method of secretive disposal would be consistent with a homicide
circumstances of an abduction..she wuld just love if the jury bought into that
Welp Connie if I have ever been rude to you I wuld like to take this opportunity to apologize..I am sorry…
I still think there are finger prints on that tape! Also there is other evidence from the house and at the site that made her personal opinion say it was a homicide.
They can test the hair for drugs…you can get a life long drug use from hair I thought
and another thing lol
*ducking*
I still say the meter reader guy is highly suspicious, (not telling anyone else what to think, my own opinion, maybe I should make that clear off the bat, I don’t sway others, nor can I be swayed, simply because other americans come in this rom, giving their opinion and take on this tragedy lol, I’m a person with my own mind, and welcome all people in here to give a view of this, cause Lord knows NONE of us have the answers, NONE) time will tell on him, and I’m sure they are throughly investigating this guy now, I just think hes suspicious, and would be the coincidence of the century
If there is evidence that links to the house and finger prints they will ultimately know it was killr who did this..unless she tries to blame her folks
Pickles- I doubt Connie was referring to any of your posts
I think that it was his usual watering hole…like when he was out in the field working and the coffee started beatng on his bladder he knew it was a safe spot to relieve himself…and he saw the bag
do u think they have prints pickles??? That is what I wanna hear is more evidence they found
They can get long term use of drugs in the hair. Thats just the problem the drugs were there but not necessarily the cause of death! Could have been suffocation or other means we dont know!
Maybe its foolish but some how I got a gut feeling that G isn’t going to be lying anymore..Idk about C.
I bet M is just hoping someone else in their family has prints or something in this evidence so they can suffer together.. ugh.
Spanks Patti…I just say cus I have been involvd in a few disagreemants on here..but is all good..I just like for everyone to get along
I wouldnt put anything past killer if she thinks she will get away with it she will toss her parents under the bus in a heartbeat!
I have a friend I work with, that followed the case mostly from me, one day she came in here after I told her where I blog, well she couldn’t believe the mindset, she told me that this blog is for one sided views only, and if you don’t agree people attack until they leave.. or get stoned, until forced to leave that was a bad impression for her to leave with . shes only 19…wow, says alot..
If she has drugs in her hair..then she culd of very well been poisend whith drugs..but it will all add up in the end…killr will get life in prison.
I think they have prints…
I also think the utility worker is innocent..I think that that was his pee spot..when on the road
Thats how I am a people person love people and love it more when everyone gets along!
Pattianne and Pickles,
No I wasn’t, you’ve never offended me in the least! Like I said, most of the poster are decent and accept other opinions. It’s things like telling others not to post here if they didn’t share the same opinions as the majority, or calling names. etc.
Pammyliz….thats to bad about yur co-worker..I hope we werent in on the stoning..was it late at night?
I havn’t seen any one get stoned to death yet. lol
Connie…oh welp good then…just ignore those ppl usually if you dont respond to them they find somone else to trash on….
i think after 3 calls to police about a bag, (and lets face it would we not all walk over kick or open the bag?) I would… before phoning, in case it was garbage i would feel stupid, so the fact 3 times he calls but doesn’t examine the bag then wait for 5 months later well, its odd to say the least…
Yes wouldnt drugging her be aggrivated abuse?
Hey jooh all gunna call the radio show tomorrow..give me somthng to giggle about?
the first cop who went out to follow up on one of the calls got scared off by a large snake…
I think that if he is innocent maybe he culdnt get near it due to high water…
yah pickles it was her opinion, shes a college girl, i think pretty open minded
and she felt that unless your in the get casey mode or get ants mode , you aren’t welcome, i told her well, theres so many good people on here and we will all never agree, thats part of what makes each human unique.. I also said the only one who “GOT” casey, is casey….
I bet the reason he didnt touch the bag before was in fear of being implicated in a crime…
I dont know…they are investigating this guy fully tho….I bet hes done a poly by now….I hope
let us keep in mind that if the death penalty is reintroduced Baez cannot defend her!
Yes Pammyliz I would. I may have the first or second time just out of curiousity!
I hope the guy is innocent..Id rather see him as an angel then a accomplice
IF he is innocent bystander I bet his stomach has hurt for the last 5 mos…no sleep over it im sure..always naggng the bak of his mind…over and over..then when the water rose i bet it was worse for him….
agree connie I HATE name calling now that I wil say the word HATE.. despise it…
now M i can feel ok about that because I cannot call her by name and she is a monster.. but to tell others where to go because they feel compelled by the case to come in and weigh in and sometimes maybe they are out there with their different opinion, but they take time to come in and i see alot of stoning…lol
Saluki I heard that they werent goin to reinstate the death penalty due to the unique situation involved in this case..ie..the state of FL dont want to look bad fryng a young mother with mental disorders
Welp hopefully we can clean up our act and stop stoning ppl….that makes muh feel bad..to know we have run ppl off like that…ughhh now I feel bad…
I know i would have cause I’m highly suspicious in nature
i can see me kicking it or making sure before I phoned…
alot of times when driving out in wilderness is aw like garbage bags sitting out waiting to get collected and because of the area and if he was thinking maybe that is something and especially after 3 times I would have to get out of the car ad at least poke it around.. so it doesn’t add up,
your right pickles they may offer him the poly simply cause of the sensitivity of the case
aww mental disorders boo hoo what the heck she isn that far gone she didnt know what she was doing bottem line!!!
its all good pickles, I think when posting we should all just read, and maybe not attack, and read and wonder (to ourselves, hm…why would they think that>” and maybe give it some thought, but again i am a person very stubborn to sway me is hard.. when i got confirmation yesterday well now thats enough for me now, to know that someone is responsible for caylees death i strongly feel it is M … until its proved otherwise i will still think she did this…
In defense of the blog tho….some ppl come in under diff nicks to start trouble knowing the feelings and thoughts of the ppl who are currently blogging at the times they so choose to come in and cause problems..I am not making xcuses for anyones negative actions on here I am just sayng that sometimes it is intentionally instigated by those who arent whom they seem….but one half dozen or another..I am by no means innocent..you can go bak in the archives I have gotten into it more than once..not about ppls diff opinions tho…usually stickng up for ppls opinions and feelings on the blog…ooh who was it that one chik who said we were all losers and that killr was innocent a long time ago..just kept bashing everyone for our love and theories….
*blog whore*
I got mad at a blogger yesterday..and told em to eat sh~~
Sorry
Not ur fault Pickles again some people in here are just a little over opinionated .. Maybe they have trouble at directing their anger properly. Idk dont feel bad you are a really cool blogger and a cool person as far as I can tell and all you care about is justice for Caylee and thats what we are here for!
I personally think Casey is guilty as sin and I’m terrified that she will get off! As one defense attorney said yesterday that if nothing else, then the meter man creates a reasonable doubt in the mind of future jurors. I hope Casey wasn’t smart enough (which I highly doubt) to wear gloves when placing Caylees body into the bag. I hope her finger prints are all over the inside of the bag, because that would be harder to explain away than the outside. Remember… a while ago she said to her parents, from in jail, that the nanny had a key to thier house. She was making a way, even back then, to explain how evidence would show up from thier house at the crime scene.
yah your pretty tame miss pickles…lol
i just read alot of posts myself, and if i dont agree ,I just skip that post, it all makes for god reading lol i love to read tho.
one thing for sure the case has touched millions of people, from newscasters, hosts, etc… its a good feeling to know people care… your going to get many differing opinions in the world… just like alot of people still think oj was framed lol and their entitled to that…
I mean I really let that one chik have it along time ago..she was just real rude to the bloggers and I just didnt have the tolerance for it…I feel bad tho to this day…I wish I wulda had a better muzzle….on muh face…
Yup I believe she made it look like the Nanny would be able to get that stuff in their house and do this. She has been planning all a long for diff possibilities and scenarios.
What a witch…ugh
Pammy totally….we all need to just learn that if we dont agree with a post pass it up eventually it will be so far up yer page its damd near gone…so yah
i remeber her pickles that one didn’t really care tho she never debated it just came in and ranted those types are different, ones who care to stay and debate is who i think we should go easy on, sometimes people are just learning the whole story hard to believe , but their are new peeps now hearing of little caylee…
It makes me sik to muh stomach to think she might get off..but I just dont see it happening..her post Caylee life change is going to speak loudly to the jury it is going to be one of the key elements to the prosectutions case…she wont get off….we wuldnt of gotten the car,or the one hair,or her remains for that matter…the car is the key…you know…she ditchd it ther and it smelld like a corpse..she was the last person besides the tow yard to have care control and custody of that vehicle..she will not get off on this..there is no way…she wont…
Some ppl are tryng to say that cus her daughtr was missing she acted irrationally and went out clubbing,sexing,drinking,drugging ect..that her daughtr was missing so thats her xcuse for her actions that she was a wreck from her daughtr being abducted
And this whole thing with them sayng that c culda made the internet searches in March…bs that is c tryng to get killr out of more trouble
i truly do not feel she will ever get off, its done over, my opinion… and she will be given her fair trial, which is why it will be long and boring, and, then we’ll all wait on pins and needles…and then she’ll get carted away, and she’ll finally sshed real tears and ants will be sobbing, and then will come the ineterviews from all involved in the trial, oh yah gonna take awhile but shes goin bye bye, no fears, .. BUT that being said i said it with OJ too, and fell off my chair, (literally) when verdict was read…:(
hi all anything new???
only read a few posts i hope le has her prints all over bag, tape and whatever evedince was in that bag, shes a cold bloded killer and needs to spend eternaty in jail!
when petersons verdict came in i was pregnant with my girl, and that one i had my face up in the tv set (literally).. lol so i could hear every word, and i remember feeling such a releif of justice for laci and that baby, and I said thank you god there is justice…tears me up just typing this, i still remember the case so vividly…
Pickles, imo, you getting upset and defending people is admirable. That is definitely not what I was referring to.
Also, as another defense attorney said, they will have to prove that she had the car in her possesion every minute in order to prove that she put Caylee in the trunk etc.
I can’t wait until the trial! I pray it’s not another OJ - kill who I want - hire a dream team - accuse the cops of planting evidence - and get off scott free situation!
Anna!!! hey girl…sapponin..I hope they have prints to..
I wunder if she set up anyone in her family before the murder..cus it sounds as tho Caylee was gagged and what not to appear as tho her initial story is true…I mean ..Zanny does not xist so who was she tryng to set up..cus zanny is not real
Probably one of her friends…family will get set up…she doesn’t care.
bb is a joke..she had that car…I hate her ..she will not get away with this…ughh that makes me soo mad to hear he said that…they have to prove she had the car every second to prove she killed Caylee…f~ him she killed Caylee UGHH i hate them…I normly dunt hate..its to negative for my taste but mang I hate them..well all child harmers…
I am really tired of anyone on this blog who thinks they can dictate to others what they may and may not write yesterday, today or tomorrow or thru Jan 2 or whatever. That is Jan and Simon’s job, not yours.
And I do not like to be preached to particularly by people who believe they are so far above everyone else here - in intelligence, moral superiority, maybe closer to God or just got a crown from the dollar store. Or those who begin their posts by calling the rest of us “mean-spirited” for example and then go on to act like a martyr.
Not falling for that crap. Sorry.
This is a blog. We can write what we want about this case. So can you - about the case.
NOT about what the rest of us choose to write or when we write it. If anything here offends your sensitive sensibilities it is very easy to click on the red x in the upper left corner and take your nose somewhere else.
Sorry that’s the upper right hand corner. Or click on the back button and find another article where your dictatorial preaching will be appreciated.
Yah but the diff between her and oj is he was a famed sports star and tv and movie personality..she aint oj or spector..she is the run of the mill hoe who wantd to stick c~ down her throat instead of raising her kid…and instead of letting Caylee live in a better safer enviroment she killed her…there is a huge difference in her and oj….no dream team is going to get her freedom in the end.
Every once in a while, someone brings up the “nanny had a key to the house” thing. I agree that Casey was planting a seed in her parents’ head, knowing her mother would spit it out when she felt it was time.
After listening to this grandmother for so long, does she sound like the kind of woman would just let a remark like that go without yelling at the daughter “what, you gave a stranger a key to our house?”. I don’t remember what her reply was to her daughter at that time. Does anyone?
Again, how do grandparents who live with a child never, EVER, meet or talk to a “nanny” who is caring for that child? How come a child that age doesn’t ever mention her? We all know how kids (especially girls) that age yak all the time about everything and nothing. They are dying to tell everyone what they did/saw during their day. Even the grandfather said he asked her about the nanny and she didn’t say anything.
The ONLY person who ever mentioned the nanny was Casey. With the controlling personality of Cindy, you mean she NEVER demanded the name/address/phone of a woman taking care of this little beauty? I have no doubt of the love of the grandparents for this child, how could they have let that go?
Unfortunately, their fear of antagonizing their own daughter seems to be so deep that they couldn’t even confront her with the biggest lie of her life.
Sad for these people.. sad for a sweet little girl.. she never stood a chance in that family.
sensitive sensibilities…
LOVE IT
Not a chance…..
Yah the whole abduction thing aint gunna fly…no one but killr knew the nanny..not even her life long friends…Ryan stated in the police report that since hes known killr (kindergarden mind jooh) he has not ever heard the name Zanny or Zanieda ever..not once….can the prosection bring up the letter that lemon submitted regardng the death penalty and her mental condition since Caylee was born..that is important I think ..thats what got the death penalty pulled..they know she did it.
Hi Elaine!!!
Anna I think I saw the BB video on WFTV. I use 4 different news sites, so it could be orlando sentinel, wesh, or myfoxorlando as well. It will make you cringe, that video. I understand that the job of a defense attorney is to create reasonable doubt, but for Bobo Bozo to insult LE as unproffesional goes beyond unfair. Did you see the sheriff break down when he announced Caylee was dead? I think LE has worked tirelessly in this case and will continue to do so!!
pickles, I pray you’re right, I agree she’s no OJ, but, what is it about her that makes all of these renouned specialists come together to represent her, some of which have admitted pro bono?
Elaine, when she said that about the key, c didn’t react. It was on one of those vidos released from the jail.
And concernedforcaylee regarding your post at 10:05 am.
I do take offense at your criticism of my comment - one sentence taken out of context – one sentence out of three responses I made to someone who started off their post to us by calling us “mean-spirited” and proceeded to preach about what we should think and write and lectured us as if we’re idiots (like we haven’t been talking about denial for six months). The only people who can tell me what is not acceptable on this blog are Jan and Simon.
I stand by my statement: “Sorry, supposedly “not so cruel,” I’ll say what I like when I like.”
cfc: What do you find offensive about that?
LE is amazing they are great investigators and detectives even the FBI…bb is a joke…..
It was interesting to see Larry King last night, He tried to pump Kathy Reichs for information on where the defense money is coming from. She said that she and the other members of the defense team had to sign a contract to the effect that they cannot divulge that information. INTERESTING!
Lillred, yes I have photos of the pups, I do know about the greyhound rescue people, they do a good job rescuing Greyhounds from tracks, but they tend to make it extremely difficult for people to adopt. Also SALUKI is a breed of dog.They are an extremely ancient breed from Egypt and have even been found mummified in Egyptian tombs. By the way…one of the pups is called little red.
off *kickng rocks*
bb has been saying this the whole time we dont know all the story, also that caylee was alive and we dont know the whole story, there isnt a story m killed her dumped her tried to make up a fake kidnapping story, they keep forgetting the hair in the trunk, and the stain all the defence is doing is making up more lies and they act like m is some sort of privleged person that the jail should give special consideration to, HELLO she murdered her child what special privleges should she have, they make me sick!!
elaine@11:32 i couldnt agree more my daughter lives about 20 min away, i always know the babysitters # for emergency reasons, so they would like us to believe they let a stranger watch this child with no way to ever contack her in case of emergency, what if m had a car accedent on the way home from her pretend job and was unable to communicate theyd just not get caylee, not know how to contact her, its all bs as far as im concerned!! hopefully they will want to see whoever(m) did this prosecuted to the full exytent, daughter or not she needs to pay for what she did!
pic@11:42 yep le and the fbi are awsome, people make misteaks they are only human, but i dont believe they messed up anywhere in this case!
pic where did you hear about the dp??? i was hoping theyd bring it back, maybee even to bargin with her! damn!!
Yeah Anna me too
1. Both of them are sociopaths.
2. Both of them have committed murder.
3. Both of them (one had, one is destined to) have trials with intensive, off-the-map media coverage.
4. Both of them (one had, one is destined to) have a high paid, high powered “dream team” defense that specializes in smoke and mirrors and obscuring the truth.
I am glad this trial will be held in Florida and not California. That means justice has a fighting chance.
Yah they have those in common also..good point..
There are big differences in the two tho…he had noteriety going into his trial….she is a nobody…
Nope just a crazy self-centered ho!
hi bloggersss
was wondering will little caylee be returned to the ants for her burial?
I mean of course there are similarities that are obvious…the dream team,the crime,the media frenzy…but oj was a respectd man of his community of the nation for that matter….she is just another susan smith or andrea yates scott peterson…ppl looked up to oj…children kids adults…
MINNIE!!!!!!!!!! muh brthr frm anthr mthr!!!
Minnie- I have heard yes she will be.
yes Minnie she will be returnd to the ants..I think that killr has to sign her remains over to them
We have soo much sno here…blehh…we have been sno’d in fur a week ice and snow and rain and blehh….I get to do the radio show tomorrow and go Christmas shoppng so pheew..cus I b gettng cabin fever!!!
Not sure how I feel about that. Wish we knew who her daddy really was.
oh its heartbraking…knowing that babykiller she wont as another way to use caylee against everyone…
She dont kno..I think she got reeal drunk at a party and Caylee was concievd..culd be anyone…thats what happens to drunk party girls its a huge problem in Chico,Cali..is it Chico..I think it is Chico..but its huge they have big ol billboards for planned parent hood for party girls…its crazy..chico..i dont think its chico..its crap….
Minnie..thats what I thought to…that she wuldnt do it….she prolly will just to hurt c even more..cus its gunna kill c to put Caylee to rest…
ahh pickles wish we had some snow..all we get is real cold rain…
c is going to have Caylees bones…its gonna drive her even further over the edge…
Awww Minnie…no sno?
thats all its doin round here..somone said earlier they had like 60* all nice and warm…lucky…
wonder what would happen if m doesnt sign caylee remains to them…she would do that just for fun…
I kno..I thought of that…what wuld happen to them they wuld wait till she got out of prison if that ever happened…what wuld happen to Caylees remains
you know..yesturday i was soo mad,then crying..
then mad again,and today a small part of me feels abit for the ants..maybe thats a good sign that i can be like that..because no matter what i feel of them caylee loved them…
if that babykiller thougth for one mintue she could do that she would,not give caylee a proper resting place…
does anyone know out there what would happen if killer doent sign caylee remains to the ants???
That is true…just let Caylee sit somwhere on a shelf in a building…
killer would love that pickles..then she could always have a story..always keep abit of spotlight on her when case is over…
I can see her doing that…she didnt want to have any responsibility for Caylee none at all she faked having a job for 2+ yrs day in and day out just so she didnt have to spend the time with Caylee…
now im gettin anger again,just thinking that in some way she culd keepon hurting people using that litttle angel…
are you broadcasting tomorrow pickles???maybe you could bring that up for me what would happen to caylee remains if m doesnt sign them to ants….
Aww its allright..didjah light yur candle?
Yapp..I sur can bring it up..let me take a note here..muh dahling
you know mark nejames is a defence att, even he says all evedince leads to m, and thats a def att, wow!
There…I have a note now for that
talking bout snow??? heck were in blizzard warnings here had to go somewhere this am drove 30mph roads are bad!!!!
nejames owns a night club…he b dah pimp!!!
(not killrs pimp)
yes pickles,i lit my candle bit before you guys…i will light one for her everynite till she gets her justice..
we b drivng like 20 miles an hour and that is fast for the conditions we are in right now…I am 5oo ft and it is snowie..lots a sno Hey Minnie wunt I shuld ship yah sum sno?
thanks pickles…im off tommorrow il realy try and listen in…
Yah mine is lit today too…
PICKLES: HI, LISTEN I TRIED TO LET THE PEOPLE ON THE OLD BLOG KNOW ABOUT THIS NEW BLOG, BUT THEY ARE STILL BLOGGING ON THE OLD ONE. I DON’T KNOW HOW TO TELL THEM, I POSTED SIMON’S NEW ONE, BUT I DON’T KNOW HOW TO POST A LINK LIKE YOU, YOU KNOW, THE ONE WHICH YOU CLICK ON AND IT WILL TAKE YOU TO THE NEW ONE. DOES, THIS MAKE SENSE? IN FACT, I POSTED THE NEW BLOG 2 OR 3 TIMES. DO THEY EVEN READ?
couldnt bring myself to watch all of bb statment, but it just gets to me that he wants e1 to bend and break rules form, the jail has a standard procedure for telling pep about deceased loved ones, and he wanted special priv. now bitching about how he didnt ge it, he thinks e1 should bowdown to his wishes to!! what the heck, he prob wanted to tell m himself so he could make sure she had a reaction??? a sad reaction, i think the call from jail when she says “all they care about is caylee” says it all!!!!
lol..i would just love some snow for christmas…
anna..i wouldnt even drive in snow..id be in the ditch car on its roof..lol..
whats the old blog who is there?
anyword on if they will bring back the death p for babykiller?
hi mollybear!
i didnt lite my candle have g/kids up for weekend was going to be 4 night but im not driving them home in this shi# rather them just stay and b safe!!! they eat alot tho~ oh well i could loose a few lbs anyway
thats a good idea anna..then u get another nite of cuddles..
PICKLES, THE BLOG WE WERE ON YESTERDAY, BEFORE SIMON posted the new one. Sorry for yelling at you. A few people, don’t know all the names.
Hi, Minnie Got to go pick up my grandkids. bbml
we might go out in awhile and make a BIG snowman
we should make it for caylee our angel!!! funny how we have all come together for a little girl we dont even know, how much love we can all have for another, thats the way its suppose to be thou~
Yah I saw it..tensions are high right now I am no better I told somone to eat sh~ yesterday…and ppl are just tired of ppl popping in to lecture the ppl here talk sh~~ and run off…I dont know what is going on over there but dan likes to type for half an hour bout whatever its just insane…bs…
anna…get your grandkids to make snow angels..
for caylee…i used to love doing that whenever we do get snow…
we made 2 sno men they fell tho
im going go guys..incase the bull from other blog hops onto here..
bbl..
caylee,xxxx.
i havent made one in awhile todays a good day for it! i think m defence is going to bash le thats all theyve done so far, no reasons for m actions just le bashing!!!
What the heck..I go on the other blog and then everyone scatters….whatever!
so i suppose the jail chaplin isnt good enough to deliver news??
wouldnt you want a chaplin with??? i suppose bb is god now to !!!
bb is a ass!!! all he wanted was to get in the crime scene to screw things up, maybee dr lee could loose some things in this case if there was any story they would have told especially if would clear m they would have said allready!! and good thing the mr has counsil cus bb is gonna go after!!! boy he pisses me off!!!
Minnie….
I hate this….
Anna no worries..its a homocide…I dont think the defense has any rights to the crime scene till LE is done with it..specially now that its a homocide
i know pic but bb thinks he has privlege rights to everything!!
The only problem with killr now showing remorse is that they will say its due to a mental condition….that her lack of concern and detachment is due to a mental problem
thats why le is taking thier time to do every thing right so they cant say anything, if m was innocent as they say theyd have shared the story by now if for any reason to get her out of jail, they just piss me off going after le and now the jail for not giving them “special privleges”
she has no mental prob, didnt c say that herself, and c is a nurse!!!
Yah well what bb thinks and whats happening are two diff things..he thinks he is a fargn ughh they make me sik…how can ppl in good conceince defend a childkiller is it big bucks?
Oh she has no mental probs but the defense team is going to blame her symptoms on somthng
id like to slap bb smug little face, he is a media hound you can see it on his face he loves all the attention!!!
Mytwocents wheredjah go?
Slap his big ol chubby cheeks.
She’s mental alright… a spoiled,coddled over pampered little snotnose who wanted all the attention focused on herself ugh!
Slap his face right off…
Patti!! Word
her only prob is she aint getting away with this, she sits there and orders food and cards not once have they had a composite of zanni, i guess it wouldnt be hard to sketch a blue pill would it?? if truly that was the case someone taking your child id have a pic out from the get go, and no matter if i was in jail or not my feelings would be all over, someone here stated you dont know how youd act in this situation, well i for one have had 2 incedents regarding my child and both i called 911 first 1/2 hr i just get frustrated
chubby cheeks only look good on a kid!
Pickles- Lookin forward to hearin the show tomorrow its always interesting !
i had to hunt my oldest daughter once, but believe me i found her, and i wasnt in no nightclub!!!!
Anna the sketch of xani is a white/beige oblong pill
thought zannis were blue??
haha Word pickles lol!
anyway gotta go cook some food hungry kids then out to the snow for fun and snowman for caylee!!
Oh maybe they are….image googl it
Yah Patti the show is gonna be great I am sur
Have fun Anna…adios amiga
Welp its to bad Minnie left.
I am fascinated by this blog because I can’t believe how smart people are coming up with their theories. I hope the police are that smart. One that struck me was that the Anthony’s prob. only want immunity so that they can later profit off little Caylee’s murder. Which makes me sick! I also think they are habitual liars and will never tell the truth even with immunity so I hope Prosecutors proceed with care on that one.
BUT HERE’S THE OTHER THING: Three blogs ago, maybe more, it was right after the remains were found someone said that during one jail visit LEE and M were talking in code - something about “It’s north.” The commenter said that they thought M was trying to tell Lee where the body was to move it.
The commenter (on this blog) also said that the description matched up with Google maps to where the body was found.
Does anyone recall that? Because that is the kind of great tip that should be called into police.
I enjoy learning from you all. Thank you for having me here.
Hey DJane…I have no clue if the police know bout that…I think the feds and LE have investigated those tapes…wunder if they missed em? wow thats awesome…
I got the feeling m was definately trying to tell her brother ,especially, where to find caylee she kept referencing familiar places trying to give him hints I thought so also!
I think it is a little game she plays with her family when she lies about anything. Her mother kept saying shes trying to tell us shes giving us clues wtf?
Yah thank God he never found Caylee to move her!!
Right! I bet m is pissed!
You know….I think that lee might know..I mean I forgot bout there little code conversation…familiar places north…and now she is acting all pissie cus they found Caylee…maybe she thought that lee moved Caylee but all along he didnt…
He prob did find her thats why he dissappeared to pissed off or scared!
Maybe he culdnt find her cus she was underwater…or maybe he didnt want to move her…
OK people… I have been reading back on posts made today and yesterday on here and on my atricle from yesterday and there seems to be some disagreements going on and resulting in some name calling. We are NOT going to allow that in here so those of you that are doing it please let this be a warning.
I know right now everyone is tense and upset over the announcement of the remains that were found are indeed our little Caylee but you have to remember people mourn in different ways. Just because it isn’t how you may or may not mourn does not make them wrong.
A suggestion to make at least one day dedicated to Caylee without bashing anyone else involved in this case is a good idea. We all need to show more respect to Caylee.
Caylee is the one that all this is supposed to be about. I am including myself in this. I get so wrapped up in wanting the one responsible for taking her away from this earth to be punished that I forget at times to show more respect to Caylee at least for one day.
PLEASE try not to fight with your fellow bloggers over silly disagreements. Try to think about little Caylee, our little Angel. No matter what her mother may have done to her my bet would be that that precious child has forgiven her mother already.
Although I admit forgiveness for Casey is not yet in my heart, I can say at least for one day I would like to just mourn for the loss of this adorable little girl.
Please join me for the rest of today at least and speak of little Caylee. Thanks everyone, God bless you all and most of all God bless our little Angel, Caylee Marie Anthony.
Jan Barrett
Idont think he wanted to cover for her. Unless he did father caylee.
Cus now that I think of it she was tryng to tell him…and I bet he was to stupid to know what she was talkng bout…
Amen Jan Absolutely!
Jan,
If you have a problem with me calling a pompous ass a pompous ass, let me know. When it comes to name-calling, that’s rather mild. I moderated a very busy, high traffic discussion forum for years and such repressive moderation runs people off. You can’t neuter discussion to such a degree. There is a line that should not be crossed, but you can’t police people where they are walking on eggshells. A disagreement is only “silly” when you’re not directly involved in it.
Right pickles thats what I thought he was either too stupid or scared and I bet m is annoyed!
Yes Marcie I do have a problem with you coming in here calling some that and I can so control what is said in here and if you if do not like it you know how to hit that little X at the top right hand corner of your screen.
Well today is interestng
yes…..it is hmph!
I am going to find that comment: re: Lee and M talking in code because I found it fascinating and so insightful on behalf of one of the readers here. I have a huge deadline, I might have to do it on Monday.
I feel like LE should be reading here! Another interesting theory that was floated here (and again something I think Prosecutors should take note of was (and I think it was Snookers but I apologize if I’m wrong):
It was that G might gave been right about his org. last date of seeing Caylee (was it the 6th?) Then on the 15th, after M and Caylee have been gone a week, Cindy confronts M. M says she’s been out of town working and Zanni the Nanny was taking are of Caylee. When C asks Caylee, Caylee has no idea who she is talking about. That’s when C starts putting things together and has a huge fight with M. M realizes Caylee is a liability because she can speak now. And… we know the rest.
Again, that was just an idea that was floated but it seems everyone here is looking into every nook and crannie. I never understood why M abandoned the car until I came here weeks and weeks ago. I just hope LE is as smart as you all are.
I hope G & C are going to be honest. I’m sacred they are working with their lawyers to come up with a nugget of “some truth” so they can get immunity.
They or M must be desperate to sell a book or rights to pay all these lawyers.
The National Enquirer should get the contract that all M’s people have signed. I guarantee it’s all laid out how they will split profits that come from this case. Yes, sickening. But they are lawyers.
I didn’t mean to stop the chatting, I just think there is no need for name calling because it only leads to fights… Everyone can have a difference in opinions without the need to start calling names.
It was that G might gave been right about his org. last date of seeing Caylee (was it the 6th?) Then on the 15th, after M and Caylee have been gone a week, Cindy confronts M. M says she’s been out of town working and Zanni the Nanny was taking are of Caylee. When C asks Caylee, Caylee has no idea who she is talking about. That’s when C starts putting things together and has a huge fight with M. M realizes Caylee is a liability because she can speak now. And… we know the rest
yah!
Jan its all good….we are just not everyones speed is all..
Cant please em all guys lol
Pickles, do you think so? I just remember reading that and all of a sudden… I just had this feeling.
Again, not saying it’s right and not taking credit for it - I read it here but something I hope LE is looking into.
Well Caylee was going to become a risk soon cus she was learning to talk and she had no clue who the nanny was…at all…and if c and g culdnt figure out the deer in the headlight stare Caylee had when questiond bout the nanny they are idiots
Praying the Anthony’s do the right thing and just come 100% clean. I’m going back to work now. I’ll def. check on that earlier blog re: Lee & M talking in code.
emms mum, we are thinking the same thing. The parallels between Scott Peterson and M. They didn’t need a “cause of death” even though all of precious Lacy’s remains were not found. M & SP’s actions, attitudes and lies speak volumes.
I remembered when M wanted out from under house arrest so she could search for Casey, with the stipulation she was not to be followed. She was probably going to travel all the way down the block to move the bag.
We are all aching for Cayee. M has torn out all of our hearts and still continues to try to play us for fools.
Hi guys,
Personally I donot think that Roy the meter reader is nothing more than a concerned citizen. I find it interesting that this time(the fourth) , he had his supervisor make the call to LE. The other three times he called himelf with no results.
I am very interested if this is the same bag he called about earlier.
Frankly am very suspicious about the handling of earlier calls of LE’s specific deputies, especially of the third call.
I thought two more deputies were fired after A. Rusciano due to involvement with M.
Names were never disclosed though.
The passing of time in regards to August discovery as opposed to December discovery did distroy an awful lot in forensic evidence.
One more thing, posts should be objective regardless of opinion, some posts are getting to much lynchmob mentality in it IMO.
However, I do agree with every post as it applies to Bozo. Such an odious individual and lousy attorney .
Oops, distroy=destroy.
Pickles , there is nothing wrong with Nejame being a part time owner of a night club.
Anybody who is a good friend of Tim Miller is ok with me.
Sorry, I meant leave house arrest to search for Caylee.
The commonality between OJ and M is that both will be treated as pariahs regardless of trial outcome.
Snookers oh no I dont think theres anything wrong with it eiter…is cool…he owns a night club…I just thought it was interestng
Snookers…whatsa pariah?
A very distasteful outcast in Hindu religion.
Pariah was a person?
http://www.helpfindcaylee.com/
they have the last day she was seen on that sight…a pic ..it even has the date…
Caylee Marie…2005-2008
I mean I know I am no genious..I never claimed to be…and I am not perfect to say the least..but killr is a league of her own…
Pickles ,
Not a person , an expression for an individual you avoid like the pest.
I think we can all see why Nejame stepped down as C&G’s attorney with the current events that have taken place so far.
I got duct tape on my hair one time and ended up cut that part of my hair off.
If M had duct tape all round the skull of this precious baby, it was there to stay. Not a temporary restraining tactic. So heart breaking. And premeditated. No accidental death..
I agree with you snookers duct tape is not a temp thing you put on someone especially wrapped around the head like that.
Shan,
I make winterboxes for feral cats in my barn out of heavy carton boxes wrapped in bubble wrap with plenty of duct tape. Once when duct tape got in my hair , it was practically impossible to get it out without cutting my hair. You also really have to pull hard to get duct tape off the roll .There should be fingerprints on it. M was not too smart, am sure no gloves were used.
Hope the maggots(time of death) and duct tape (finger prints)will do M in.
Also think that the fictitious call M said she recieved from Caylee on the 15th of July will be the icing on the cake.
@4:00 PM. :ooks like the police are back at the ANYS house with another search warrant.
Welp…
Yeppers, as we chat the ANTS house is being searched again. I saw video that shows George upset about this.
Now that Caylee Anthony has been found, focus in the case shifted to how she died and who killed her — and why.
The coroner who identified a child’s skeletal remains as those of the little girl said the condition of the bones would make it difficult to determine the cause of death.
Orange County Sheriff’s investigators officially cleared the wooded suburban crime scene outside Orlando Saturday afternoon. They worked there for much of the day, still finding bones — some as tiny as pebbles.
Investigators executed a new search warrant late Saturday afternoon at the Orlando, Fla. home of Caylee Anthony’s grandparents. It was not immediately clear what they were looking for.
There was virtually no soft tissue discovered with the skeleton, though there was hair. Orange County Medical Examiner Dr. Jan Garavaglia said toxicology tests being done weren’t likely to shed much light on how the 2-year-old died.
Thats to bad…..that the toxicology wont shed much light on how she died.
The FBI said there wasn’t any indication the child was taken out of the Orlando area where she lived.
“At no time did we find any evidence that this young child left this location,” said Tampa FBI Special Agent Steven Ibison
Ahead of the announcement, Florida police released evidence photos from the scene where the remains were found. One showed a picture book discovered in the woods that the child had been photographed reading before she vanished.
The book is among numerous pieces of evidence Orange County Sheriff’s deputies say they found in the wooded area where Caylee’s remains turned up.
Also Friday, police re-interviewed a county water meter reader who earlier this month discovered the bag with the child’s skull and bones inside.
Detectives said the worker is not a suspect in her death.
The worker who found the bones on Dec. 11 had called in a tip to police on three consecutive days in August, telling them to look in the same area for the remains.
“Back in August of this year, I had previously reported … that I had spotted something suspicious, a bag, in the same area,” said the meter reader, Roy Kronk, reading from a prepared statement Friday.
He wouldn’t elaborate.
“I will continue to cooperate fully with the investigation,” Kronk told reporters. “I respectively decline to get into the details of what I saw at the crime scene.”
His attorney, David Evans, called Kronk a “concerned citizen” and lambasted media speculation that suggested otherwise.
“He has no connection whatsoever to this case or to the Anthony family,” Evans said.
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,470650,00.html
on Fox they just showed the CSI & LE issued another search warrant & are back at the Ants home, might be coming up on HLN- good news that they have something??
Pickles Said
Thats to bad…..that the toxicology wont shed much light on how she died.
That may not be true. We are all assuming that Casey only used Chlorform used once. If Casey had used that before on Caylee and Caylee lived thru it, it is possible that that would show up in her hair samples.
If Casey used that chemical numerous times, it WILL SHOW UP.
Wow….amazing new events as of a few minutes ago. CSI just served another search warrant on the Anthony home. I just saw this on Fox TV
Just saw that too a few minutes ago. Apparently Dr. G made a suggestion to the police.
Furthermore I just read that after whining for over a week that they had no access to the crime scene, Bozo stated that the defense will not go to the crime scene now that it has been released by the prosecution.
That dusnt suprise me that bb said that..they wuldnt go to the crime scene now that it has been released…why shuld they need to really killr knows it just as well as anyone else..bb is a joke
Ohh and if she used othr RX drugs it will also be in her hair sample..dats fur sur….hair dunt lie
Such as Zanex?
TnMtMan,, where did you see the video of police at the ants today?
Hi guys, I see the LE has returned to the ant cave…wow..says that case is switching gears to determine cause of death!
Were the ants removed?
love2bgran - I found an article but not a video. Here’s the url:
orlandosentinel.com/news/local/orange/orl-bk-anthony-home-crime-scene-122008,0,6774428.story
INTERESTING idea included in article:
“Also, deputies released the crime scene, and the public had access to the site. Casey Anthony’s defense team was notified before the scene was released, but members of the team notified deputies they would not inspect the site.”
Sooooo, after all that squawking, the defense TEAM didn’t even go to the crime scene afterall. Shows me that they’re making noise just to make noise.
pickles — oops! I posted that w/o reading the blog. Sorry to repeat!
Yes, the hair will show any drugs, and possibly show chloroform (from what I’ve heard–it might/might not, since it was exposed to open air, but there’s a good chance it will).
On the talk shows, I am finding comfort in hearing defense attorneys’ comments, such as Mark Geragos (sp?), who thinks the defense faces an uphill battle.
I don’t see any chance of defense proclaiming an accident. Duct tape, she would have been upset, not calling to report it, and not saying it now. Who would face possible murder 1 instead of admitting to an accident? Lucky for the prosecution, she’s just flat not very smart.
oh boy, I watched the video of bozo after reamins were said to be our baby. He is sooooo predictable! Whine whine whine…never once said how sad a day or we are STUNNED at the news…notta…My god! All he did was whine about how HE didn’t get the chance to tell maggot they know it’s caylee…cause he would not be telling her anything she didn’t already know if he said caylee is dead!
Thanks for the URL! Interesting . . .
pickles — I saw your earlier post where you copied that quote from the so-called expert who said drugs probably wouldn’t show up on hair tests.
Like others above, I disagree entirely! That one guy is only one I’ve heard say this. Virtually everyone else, including Baden, says that yes, the hair WILL show drugs or anything else that should not have been in her system.
It would probably even show anything she may have given her a year ago (such as xanax, etc).
The hair doesn’t lie. (one little hair!!!!)
Bozo is such a bad lawyer but you know what would be the cherry on top? Having M on the stand now that would go down hill fast..
C-A - That stood out to me, too–about BB. What he said was completely inappropriate. He should have said, “no comment on the case itself today–today is a day to think about and honor Caylee’s life.” (or something like that).
What a snake, taking away from Caylee just to take another opportunity to criticize the prosecution. That is pure evil, imo.
Ya know cit - she isn’t smart at all that’s right! She THOUGHT she was being SMART by putting the duct tape to show possible kidnapping….but all that did was preserve some hair for forensic match to know sample of babies hair and just as importnatly, shows murder! If she didn’t put that duct tape on, they might not have been able to say murder and she could say accident! But not with the tape….no way to unring that bell! Thank god!
Shan - lol. … down hill, then up, then down, then all over the place…like a rollercoaster! That girl can weave a tale.
Oh yes she can but you can bet if she were cross examined people would see right through her lies even more. LOL imagine “Uh miss Anthony did you just lie?” “Yes and I know it was wrong but *insert another lie*”
C-A - Yes, so true. She was ‘trained’ not to have to think ahead, unlike most liars who are raised by parents who make them stand and account for their actions.
I think she truly believed the world turns as it turned in their household. Well, Ms. M, welcome to the turning OUR world!
cit post 6:14pm ~ Your so right! 100% He is a snake! I can’t stand the sight of that animal! How transparent that he only thinks of what HE wants…it’s been all about him or maggot. NEver once anything about caylee especially on a day like yesterday. He is as cold hearted selfcentered as maggot! He deserves something bad to happen to him for his lack of concern for this murdered child!
Karma will take care of him! And same for maggott, her days are so numbered!
I wonder what now that the LE wants from that house…guess george was pissy….too f’ing bad!
Shan - oh the cross examination would be pitiful to watch! I can’t even imagine how bad it would be.
As I just mentioned, I truly believe she still doesn’t “get” the way the real world works. On the stand, she would act just as she always has acted. She’d lie and be amazed that no one believes her.
She’d probably declare again, “I’m here on a whim!”
I’d love to see her on the stand. Maybe by then, her arrogance will rub off on Baez, and he’ll allow it. Now that would be justice.
C-A — Baez and M are two peas in a pod! Soulmates, no doubt. lmao
love2
Headline News Network about 3:45 PM
I will give G the benefit of the doubt he was probably really pissed because it was just confirmed their grand daughter is dead and I am sure they were just feeling a little violated? eh Idk they are a circus lol.
Shan: I am sure they were just feeling a little violated?
Maybe they should start thinking about who violated their granddaughter and I don’t mean Zanny, the invisible nanny.
I’m not giving Baez a thing–not even a doubt from which to benefit!
MMT - Hello! Hope you got my note.
Howdy to pickles, m2c-r, chsah (shazaam), pammy & liz, snookems, anna, mollybeary, c4c, dak, and anyone else I forgot!
Kris - Sending well wishes and prayers …
gtg finish shopping. bbl
Shan - I am sure he is totally devestated yes! But he has a part in this going on so damn long and what goes around comes around! It didn’t have to be this way. He knows way more then he is saying and so he and c are sewing what the weep! He has known caylee is dead for a long time and knows it was maggot, deep down in his heart even if he didn’t want to face it! IT’s now time to PAY THE PIPER and george and cindy and their murdering daughter are out of change!
tnmtman - You and I are always on the same wave length ~ hi
TnMTman - just curious….your name mean Tennessee Mountain Man? if so can I call you mountain?
C-A - Or maybe call him Smokey? (are you near the Smokey Mtns, TnMtMan?)
l8tr guys..
Hello,
I live in East Tennessee and loved this blog. The good, bad and ugly!!!!!!
I don’t in the Smoky’s but Knoxville, close enough.
There is an interesting video on wesh now of Mark Nejame discussing the latest in the Caylee case. He is being less diplomatic than he was initially after dropping out of representing the Ants. He now says that in his opinion there was never a question in his mind of M’s involvement in the murder and that when the defense began to claim M’s innocence he could not in good conscience continue representing the Ants.
He also cited an interesting adage…”you cannot catch a fish whose mouth is closed” referring to all the lies and inconsistencies spouted by all the Ants.
Perfect…it echoes the feelings of John Walsh who always felt M was the killer, Mr. Klass who is absolutely horrified at the actions of the Ants and Tim Miller who says that after 10 minutes in the Ant house, he knew M was involved and that his stay at the home was a very weird experience.
The findings at the crime site must have been substantial to again seek a search warrant for the home. This is the fourth search so far!!
I would imagine M might now regret that she did not take the deal for immunity that LE offered her months ago. She must HAVE BELIEVED SHE WAS MORE CLEVER THAN ANYONE ELSE. How brilliant was she anyway, to dump Caylee so close to home, leave countless clues such as clothing, the book Caylee loved to read and who knows what else that has tied the scene to her house. Well,no wonder she was a high school dropout
peeps out xmas shoppin…i am having a xmas light sort and test with egg nog…
saluk - yes m is arrogant enough at time of immunity to think she has out smartened everyone! Remember the little econ search, and where she had no response to the find..if she was innocent, she would of been freakin out, but she knew baby was not there…she is braindead! Not an award winning performance nor was the one when they stated they found remains…’CAN I HAVE A SEDATIVE’….she knew her gig was up for one thing, the other thing is anyone who just found out their child was dead if they didn’t already know it, would have had someone else order the sedative…ya know what i mean. If she ordered it? Doesn’t that look like a “show”…who orders drugs in shock and grief immiediatly?? Doesn’t work for me!
Hi All,
Just got back from a family Christmas celebration; and couldn’t wait to get back online to see of any updates- what a bittersweet time this is….I am so thankful for my baby girl, yet feel such a deep love for a stranger….amazing how the soul works….
I just checked out the MySpace page, no more pics of M on there, nor C & G….very very sad…I really have no new input, just been catching up for the last hour or so- I too feel that tensions are high with all of us right now, and as He says “He knows not what he does”…let’s all try and keep that front of mind on here! Not to rehash it all, of course…but I agree with the overall sentiment, that we are all joined by a mutual compassion and great love for a beautiful precious girl.
Remember when M was questioned about the last time she talked to Caylee, and she said Caylee was telling her about her favorite book? She said Caylee was happy and excited to talk to her, not upset at all, which they found odd. M buried her with that book, and maybe she did “talk” with her in her mind. She’s OK and close to home in M’s mind.
I guess everyone’s off for the night….BBL
I like everybody also to remember how M came up with such elaborate stories after 6/16 thru 7/15, explaining to people where Caylee was, Beach, Universal etc.
To make family/ friends believe Caylee was alive while she was busy partying. All along she knew damn well Caylee was dead and murdered by her.
Even on 7/15 while making an appointment at the tattoo parlor for 7/19 , she said she would bring Caylee along. Also remember per Cindy, M could not talk because she was protecting Caylee from some imaginary harm. Well, that does not apply anymore but she still ain’t talking either.
I am done with my Xmas shopping too, not much, lean year. Best purchase I made, is a water pistol that I use when one of the cats starts whacking my Xmas tree. Works like a charm. They learned fast. Whack the tree, expect water spree.
Val- I wonder about that too, I think she just knew that video of the 15th w/ the book was circulating, and she just plugged in that detail to validate her story…the book was fresh on everyone’s mind, as we all saw the video, so she just played on that….maybe?
val ~ hi
Ya, that could be in her twisted tidbits of truth! I buried her with her book and she has been telling me about the story…but what about her shoes, she said caylee was saying something about her shoes? Wonder if shoes were found? It was reported about a bathing suit, wonder if it was her sweet little orange one that tied the child back to the anthony home cause it was public knowledge of that suit in the pic with her?
and what could they want with todays search?
My god, the child has been identified and we would think that this case would be winding down but it’s NOT. More and more and more…unanswered questions!
“she’s ok and close to home, I can feel it mom”..speaks volumes….
Val,
That time when M said she talked to Caylee on the phone about the book and shoes was suppose to be on 7/15. So sick, Caylee was dead by that time for about a month.
Also remember per Cindy, M could not talk because she was protecting Caylee from some imaginary harm. Well, that does not apply anymore but she still ain’t talking either.
Exactly ~ so wassup maggot? Where’s the story. At the very least at this point if she was innocent and now that the world knows caylee has officially been murdered, you think this cun! would be spilling her guts, she can’t “protect” caylee any longer…that was all such a crock of shit anyway, I am protecting caylee….I just wanna knock her teeth out!
If the car had not been confiscated, c would not have located M thru Amy. I wonder how long M would have told everyone that Caylee was with the sitter? I think she would have told her friends that she was staying with the grandparents, and she would have told C & G that Caylee was with the sitter. She could have done this indefinitely.
I also wonder if the original 6/9 missing date was spouted by M and echoed by the Ants because M expected Caylee to be found much sooner. Evidence could point to a 6/16 date of death when Caylee already had been missing for a week.
M could have gone to CA and telling GP’s she took Caylee along. In CA she would have told that Mark Hawkings that she left Caylee with GP’s. M did not do long term planning only short term.
was it proven by workers at old age home that baby was in fact there on fathers day?
When she stole Amy’s money, that would have been her smartest move; a one way ticket to California, but she had fantasies about Tony and moving in there.
seems m’s biggest tale was stringing everyone along on baby’s whereabouts! As long as she had c and g on one hand and others who didn’t interact with them on the other…she thought she had it made in the shade to keep that fiasco up forever get rid of the baby and keep playin them on one another like a game. With her childs life and murder…so disgusting!
The date on the camera photos were 6/15.
There was a similar abuse case where the little girl was killed and the family moved. It took about 20 yrs. for questions to arise.
Has there been any statement from the Ants or their attorney about how they think Caylee died?
I wonder what Maggot has been doing in prison since the announcement…besides meet with her attorney? Maybe she did a little reading…ordered some snacks?
val - you can set the date on a digital camera for any date you choose!
I wondered about that CA, but what would be the motive? Wouldn’t there be witnesses at the rest home?
yes you can, but I think there is a way to dissect it further to tell when exactly photos were taken…I want to say there is some kind of marker within the storage?
Where was M really between 6/9 and 6/15? Didn’t she say she was on a trip? Was that when “Zanny” was in the fabricated accident?
val - not sure of the date of the fabricated trip and the accident…makes me really wonder about the date of caylee was with gr-grandad and whether g’s statement of seeing baby with his oh so wonderful and photogenic memory a month later on what he was doing on the 16th day of june and what caylee was wearing…that is bullshit to me!
It doesn’t seem like they saw Caylee from June 9 on because Casey said she was with the nanny. That’s weird; why would Caylee be staying somewhere else at night. Had they both moved out on the 9th? Something’s fishy about that part of the timeline.
Very few friends saw Caylee from 6/9 thru 6/15.
Apparently the Ants did not see her from 6/9 thru 6/14.
That 6/15 date was verified with the employees at the assisted living home and also with the great grand mother.
It stated in one article not long ago that at the time of caylees disapperance Casey had gotten her own apartment? I was thrown off on that thinking they meant tonys….?
I read that she was apartment hunting for a place for both of them after the 15th. Not sure if Tony confirms this.
Since 6/9 M spent most nites at Tony’s(sans Caylee)
Then who was Caylee staying with? She told the parents she was working and staying with the nanny.
They should have micro-chipped her at birth.
That Val, has never been disclosed. Per M , Caylee was with the none existing Nanny.
Maybe Caylee was in the trunk of car at nite.
bbl
val ya like a mutt!
Snookers, I think you are right about the week between the 9th and the 16th. This is what I wrote above:
It was that G might gave been right about his org. last date of seeing Caylee (was it the 9th?) Then on the 15th, after M and Caylee have been gone a week, Cindy confronts M. M says she’s been out of town working and Zanni the Nanny was taking are of Caylee. When C asks Caylee, Caylee has no idea who she is talking about. That’s when C starts putting things together and has a huge fight with M. M realizes Caylee is a liability because she can speak now. And… we know the rest.
DJane - someone alerted me to your interest in a previous post I may have made - I hope this is what you were looking for and expedites your search. I no longer post here, but wish you great luck in your efforts to unravel this mystery:
novalis said,in December 11th, 2008 at 10:36 pm Gumshoe - you may be on to something. Other blogs have been discussing Tony picking up Casey on that road as she was walking home after running out of gas that week. Some speculate she may have thrown Caylee’s body in the woods rather than leave it in the car - meaning to go back for it later. Also heard of 5 searchers in Sept. that were in same exact area and found disturbed earth with buried ropes tied together and to a metal pipe, as if a marker of sorts. They filed a police report but did not alert media.
This also sounds like the area her friend Chris texted her that he saw her jogging (but she denied).
One thing that interests me is when she has that jailhouse conversation with Lee and says to “check things local, Lee, that’s all I can tell you, places we are familiar with. Obviously they both went to the nearby school.
She also tells him “Oh, the bottom left-hand side of town”. What is odd is that if you check the google earth map and orient the school as north, the wooded area is directly southwest of the school - or “bottom left”. Just some odd pieces that have me thinking…
Anyone watch Geraldo tonight? He’s really pissing me off. BB was on, saying they’ll raise issues with LE in court and that poor Casey is not being treated the way the Constitution says she should be, yadda, yadda.
Dr. Baden; however, says they CAN tell cause of death by the tox tests. He disagreed with Dr. G. saying Homicide of unknown means without the tox tests.
OH! And BB stated (about the search today at the Ant cave) that LE “kicked them in the stomach” when the results were announced yesterday, and now LE is just kicking them when they’re down. Please!
DJane,
Yep, have been saying that for week. Smart little Caylee was turning into a snitch for M.
M’s stealing is old hat, she has done that for years,why a big fight about that. Besides ,we donot know when the grandpa in assisted living got robbed by M. Could have been a while ago.
If Cindy really suspected M was keeping Caylee in horrendous places at nite. Why did Cindy let M leave with Caylee. That is the part I cannot wrap hy head around.
hello everyone…
love2bargan, I’m kinda surprised that Dr. Baden is making ANY kind of statments at all considering his wife is part of the “dream team”??? What Dr. G said as far as why they might not be able to tell cause of death seems more likely than what Dr. Baden is saying. Isn’t it funny how there is always two opinions to a case, depending on what side of the case your on (defense vs. prosecution?) lol…..no wonder we ARE SO confused at times!
Very well said CHSAH
snookers said,in December 20th, 2008 at 11:00 pm
If Cindy really suspected M was keeping Caylee in horrendous places at nite. Why did Cindy let M leave with Caylee. That is the part I cannot wrap hy head around.
Snookers, I agree. EVEN if they didn’t think M was ‘capable’ of murder…..THEY STILL knew she was not a good mother b/c those words came from M’s own mouth! To let M leave with Caylee(especially when they had such a BAD fight….is beyond me.
I was surprised at his answer, as well. He SOUNDS like he’s being non-biased. THAT would be a new twist, wouldn’t it. He claims that if ANY chloroform is found in her hair, it’s enough to be cause of death. Koby agreed.
NOVALIS said, in December 20th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
DJane - someone alerted me to your interest in a previous post I may have made - I hope this is what you were looking for:
“One thing that interests me is when she has that jailhouse conversation with Lee and says to “check things local, Lee, that’s all I can tell you, places we are familiar with. Obviously they both went to the nearby school.
She also tells him “Oh, the bottom left-hand side of town”. What is odd is that if you check the google earth map and orient the school as north, the wooded area is directly southwest of the school - or “bottom left”. Just some odd pieces that have me thinking…
NOVALIS - I think that is huge… HUGE! I think you should email NG, the papers and LE. When I saw that you wrote that… my jaw dropped. I think that is a BIG piece of information.
Good work.
Hey Dak…..good to see you again. Thank you.
Good to see you too.
CHSAH,
Yeah, have been scratching my head on Dr. Baden too considering his wife.
Maybe Baden does not like Baez. Who does anyway. Baez makes the whole dream team look like idiots. Him and M so deserve each other.
Geraldo says he thinks LE is gearing up to charge G % C. Could we be so lucky?
Okay don’t ask me to explain what you are about to read because I have no actual facts to base it on but I feel this case isn’t going to go like most everybody is hoping it will unless the test that are out right now can show something very significant towards cause of death. With many questions starting to arise in the case I just have an eerie feeling Casey might not get the sentence everyone is hoping for.
love2bargan,
something us up with their now “unbiased” attitude? Maybe they are hoping to put some “doubt” in the minds of public opinion for the chloroform so they can go for “accidental overdose”, instead of “duct tape around the head = murder??? just a thought?
I really don’t think they will charge C and G with anything.
CHSAH, I agree. But while on the air, Geraldo read a couple of “hate” emails about Casey and some aimed at HIM. I don’t think they’ll find a jury that won’t convict her. The question is, what will they convict her OF? I’m afraid the death penalty is out of the question unless there are things we don’t know.
Defense claims LE is grasping at straws and would have had a better chance of getting the needle for Maggot if they hadn’t found the body.
Hey guys, I saw Geraldo too & liked the way Baez was pale at the end of the show. It does look like Baden is unbiased, but then again by saying the ME shouldn’t have made the determination makes you think the ME wasn’t qualified or was wrong therefore bad for the state. I don’t know, I’ve never followed a case before & am confused at tactics. For me, play the 1st call home from jail mixed w/ M didn’t report her missing & I say guilty.
I’m looking forward to Cindy’s first interview once she and the puppet come out of seclusion. My imagination is running wild. The meter reader did it. The psychics did it. Jessee G. did it. I’m dying to hear what she says!
Dakdude,
Long time no see.
No, I donot think they will charge C and G either. They would have a hard time finding a jury to convict them IMO.
I do think however, that M will get life. She made so many dumb mistakes and with Baez as a defense attorney. I donot think she had a prayer..
Snookers….YOU ARE SOOOOO RIGHT! they deserve each other! I personally don’t see them as a dream team! Yeah, they are all “famed and well reknowned” but they are dealing with a child’s death……in public opinion, THAT can make a whole heck alot of difference, fame or no fame.
love2bargan, was that on Geraldo tonight?
Dake, no tomatoes or beatin’ ya up, like I told ya last night, you admitted you were wrong so your comments deserve the respect I wasn’t giving you. I agree that this case may NOT be what we all hope for…..death penatly at the most, life in prison w/o parole at the least. However, never say never when it comes to a jury…….I sure didn’t think OJ would get off either. I feel good about the outcome right now….but as the trial goes on and more facts come out…..ANYTHING could happen.
Snookers, I hope you’re right. Life without parole. It was mentioned, on Geraldo, that Scott Peterson got death even though the ME was not able to determine cause of death in Lacy’s case. We aren’t without hope.
CHSAH, yes, it was on tonight.
OJ is black and killed adults. Besides he had r.i.p Johnny Cochran. M is a child killer. Juries donot like child killers especially if it is the mom.
DJane - thanks for your confidence; I just may do that.
Dak, you could be right. I think they ‘might’ after all the evidence is put together and they feel they can prove it without a doubt. If they don’t, I’ll come on here and say I was wrong….how’s that? lol….guess I owe ya one!
love2bgran said,in December 20th, 2008 at 11:16 pm
The question is, what will they convict her OF? I’m afraid the death penalty is out of the question unless there are things we don’t know.
Defense claims LE is grasping at straws and would have had a better chance of getting the needle for Maggot if they hadn’t found the body.
love2bargan…
Oh trust me…….THERE IS ALOT WE DON’T KNOW YET. We only heard enough to convince most of us of her guilt….can you imagine the magnitude of what else they HAVEN’T released?
The defense’s statement sounded stupid to me…(bb crying without the tears like M)…lol…..they say dumb things when they can’t think of anything intelligent to say. jmo….(heeeee…heeeeee…)
Gee I must be losing it my post are actually making sense to people. Think I need se Dr maybe there is something wrong LOL.
I think Dr. G. didn’t say everything she found in her announcement yesterday. Just a feeling I have.
Dak…..you are too funny! Enjoying the new you! lol……naw, think finding Caylee has brought more of us together
I agree love2bgran, sure don’t want her influencing the public anymore than they have already. I guess save the best for court.
BB is definitely out of his league and I think Ms. Baden is doing to have a hell of a time poking holes in all of Casey’s lies, etc. Can’t wait for the trail to start!
love2bargan, I think you are right. I imagine she went over with LE what her statement was going to be and released only what she felt she needed to at that time. Defense will have access to her report now, but I think there is alot we don’t know yet.
Oops. I means Ms. Baden is going to have a hell of a time poking holes . . .
Does anyone know the bio on Ms. Baden??
love2bgran, (think I typed it right this time! lol)…we knew what you meant…..we’ve all learned to “read between the lines!” lol….
Night everyone. If I don’t go read or something I’ll go nuts. I think about this case day in and day out and it’s actually taking a toll on me.
Peace and love, Caylee. Smooch!
nite luv2bgran!
going to go also…..nite Dak if your still here. you need to get on her eariler, some of the regulars will enjoy your conversations more. Don’t take that wrong, I think your just phrasing things differently and you are trying to be a little more willing to accept open possibilities. Doesn’t mean your opinion is wrong, just means your open to listen to others. Hope that makes sense? Nite…
her was suppose to be “here”!! lol..nite
I’ll try. I have been out with my wife and kids playing in the park and then went to dinner.
I don’t think the defense has a chance, not w/ her lies & behavior, too many things were said & done to unravel her guilt. I’m not even sure what the defense can agrue at this point, how she did it or why doesn’t matter to me or to most from the many comments on the internet & media:
she doesn’t report her child- her mother does after 31 days telling everyone different stories- trying to hide/cover crime
party pics & ripping off Amy pics- no concern
when confront no tears & takes police goose chase
Seen at BB w/ Tony the night of the 16th
1st call home- wow, how do argue that
months later, they find the body in her old hang out w/
nah, she don’t stand a chance, that’s a small part of the whole picture we know via LE documents released & surv. camera’s
So, the other day Baez flies about 5 experts to FL to examine the crime scene. Of course, he never asked the investigators if this was a good time. As it turns out, it was too soon and he huffed and puffed and sent all of them back to where they came from.
Then he spouted to everyone how it was all unfair and Police and FBI are not being professional. Good grief, they hadn’t even given a definitive ID on the remains. Why should his team be allowed to tramp all over a scene that might not be relevent to them in the first place?
Today, the scene is made available for him and his team and he turns around and says they aren’t going to view the site!
I would love to have a consensus from 100 (at least) lawyers as to their opinion of this Baez.
In his taped interviews, George Anthony said he didn’t like Baez and even Lee told Casey in a visit that Baez was out for himself FIRST, then her. She even agreed, if I’m not mistaken.
So, after all this, she is still making huge mistakes by continuing to be represented by Baez & Co. I wonder how difficult it is to switch lawyers during an investigation.
Although, I’m not sure how many reputable lawyers would take on a client who is a constant liar. I know a defense attorney doesn’t have to believe the client’s innocence, but must try to create a reasonable doubt in juror’s minds.
What juror with half a brain would even believe Baez, much less Casey? And, we know she won’t testify on her own behalf in court. Although, Baez has such stars in his eyes with regard to her, he might be ignorant enough to encourage her to testify! Yikes.
Wonder if he has any other clients? Casey picked a doozie and I, for one, am glad she did!
a PS to myself… I hope the unprofessional behavior of Baez doesn’t come back to haunt. The courts could decide she had incompetent representation and start the whole case over! Oh NO.
We don’t hear of the criminal attorney who joined that team after she was indicted. Is he still around or was he just in case they asked for DP?
Saluki….(much earlier post!)off the subject..sorry
I thought a saluki was a breed of dog, Are you a greyhound breeder?
That is cool that one of your pups is ‘lil red”!!!! Greyhounds are awesome dogs, so gentle and sweet. I have two pugs!!! They are
gentle and sweet also.. but SNORE unbelieably!!!
Good luck with the pups!!
Conniesue -post 4:09 20th..
I agree with you 100%.. I too have adult children, one with a grandchild, I have had numerous problems with her.. (my child). I would not for one minute pick my child over my grandbaby.. never.
I think with the ants, no matter what they did, they were NEVER going to get m to admit to anything wrong. As a parent, almost in the same
situation(daughter is spoiled and self centered), there is no way in this world would I ever choice her - so called rights - against my young grandbaby’s rights. THAT is where the ant screwed up big time…
I can not say one way or the other, what to do with them.. I do feel that they are in great pain. Who would not be?? But on the other hand they had enabled m her entire life…
But I will say one thing, as parents, I think we all try to do what is
best for our children.. they ants failed because m has major probs and issues. These are not necessarily the ants fault..
As I said, I am torn.. as a grandma I can’t imagine their pain…
but knowing that they may have contributed to it, has to be devastating…
JMO
Good morning peeps….
As I read all the new posts.. which there were many, I still believe strongly that m did kill Caylee.. I will never sway from that.
I still think it was done on purpose..always have thought that.
m is a self=centered, kniving (spellcheck) bitch.. her reason
for killing Caylee are self evident.. I realize that there are
some who may feel differently about m and c&g… and yes
that is their perogitive(eeks)…
But no matter, I have always thought, and will continue to
think that m knew exactly what she did, and c knew it too..
Dak, you’re admission last evening was compassionate.. there
is nothing in this world that wrong with holding out hope..
as a father - or a mother, is it inconceivable that this has
occurred.. I am glad to see you are back.
hi all lilred was reading your post had to comment with my opinion, i think m killed her but it was a accedent, i think she had been giving caylee zanax and pitting her in the trunk for a while this time tho it was summer the heat in the trunk was horrible and the baby died from the heat only mo tho
elaine i was womdering the same think all that fuss numerous emergency hearings then nothing what a joke bb is defenatly out for his 15 min of fame as are e1 else on the eence imo tho~
she does have thoes other def lawers i also hope no mistrial
i was reading pis post never thought about it showing up more than once in her hair, i think the reason she couldnt tell is how would she explain drugging her child to c shes more afraid of c than anyone!! that makes mmr feel better it will show she drugged caylee more than once, cant wait to hear this “story were gonna say”oh now i understand” its gotta be a whopper!!
dak@11:13 i pray you are wrong,i hpe there is proof positive like a few prints, but you never know!
Lilred, You said, ” the ants failed because m has major probs and issues. These are not necessarily the ants fault..”
I understand what you’re saying to a certain degree but I also think that maybe this case is a wake-up call for those parents out there who refuse to hold their children accountable and refuse to allow anyone else to either. And there are a lot of parents like that! Berating teachers for a kid’s test grade - it’s the teacher’s fault! And look at some of the parents of the teens who beat up on that girl in Florida! That was videotaped! And some of the parents STILL said it was all the victim’s fault. Most of those girls were already in loads of trouble (with no consequences). There are so many examples out there - in every school/grade, on every sports playing field, and every neighborhood and social circle. Of course many of those parents are so obtuse, blind and arrogant (like the ants) that they may never - in spite of this case - see that their child or grandchild could end up the same way. I just hope that some do see that and do something about it - like hold the kid RESPONSIBLE for their actions.
m2c i was with a man who was very abusive his fam was the same way blaming it on me if you hadnt said that he wouldnt have hit you, he ended up getting 14 yrs for assault on me and his lawyer said the same thing pep have been covering for him for a long x hes never gonna learn!! almost his whole incarseration i fought with his fam on that matter, before i realised who cares what they think, i have his child and if they want to see her they have to at least treat me with respect, after a long haul and proving myself over and over and him being released to have the same temperment i think ive proven my point!
also you haev to have consequenses for a childs actions or they dont learn as hard as it is i make my child take responsibilaty she is simmilar to her dad and when we moved here would shove my g/daughter accross the room when mad she was 5 and shed say she made me it took awhile but ive gotten her to realise no one can controll or make you do anything you are responsible for your actions, my biggest fear was hoping i never have to visit her in prison like her father, its alot better now
m2c that beating was horrible and i almost fell over when i heard the parent try and blame the victim!
anna - if your child’s father abused her at all or she saw him abuse you then she ought to see a counselor if she hasn’t already. Some of that behavior is “learned” from the abusive parent. So it repeats generation after generation. You probably know all of this. Sorry.
i also believe the meter reader calling in thoes 3x will prove the body was always there i feel sorry for the depudy that responded.
When some of our bloggers from Florida get on here we’ll have to ask about what’s happening in that case. The last time I googled it (don’t even know what words to use to google it) all I found was that the state had let three off (the two boyz and one girl) and had offered plea deals to the other girls.
Maybe our Florida bloggers can refer us to a news site or report.
m2c yes we have been there shes alot better just took time thanks
that beating was horrible, i cant believe a parent would condone that behavior, this is what the new adults are gonna be like and its scarry!
That’s good, anna. I’ve read that it’s very hard to break the cycle as they say! Good for you (as mom and gmom!)
i dread going outside today we got about a foot of snow from fri to now and its -13 not sure what the windchill is but i couldnt go and build our snowman for caylee yesterday to cold!! my daughter thought i was crazy when i said lets build one for caylee cuz she wont get to see snow?? she allready thinks im loosing it over this case!
there was no way i could accept that behavior and seeing where it got her dad i needed to stop it so she didnt end up there to
morning
We have like 2-3 ft of snow here
i hope c&g continue to cooperate with le now that they know the truth, i think they had a feeling all along but no proof, i hope c tells ething she knows, thet have to see the story was crazy from the start and i thought def had to believe in thier clients innocence to represent them, i dont think that would be a job for me ever!
pic you to huh? i get cold looking out the window
So is c done baking her worthless daughter?
about the hair testing your right they will be able to tell if it was more than once the baby was drugged, i didnt think bout that! so sad but i hope they find out ething!
i dont know its just a hope, shed take caylees side and not def m!
they have that text putting m at the scene and she called that guy from jail, wasnt he the only friend she called but he didnt accept!
bb pisses me off making all sorts of requests of the court then not following up, hes trying to wear the court out and the trial hasnt started yet!
hello i saw on news pickles you got hit with alot its heading my way too
i also think g lied about the last x he saw caylee in the interview on dateline c says the night of the 15 they had a very nice dinner together, nothing about the huge fight!
hey anna… i am lost on some of the BB stuff, whats been going on now?
Pammy!!!!!!
I think that c and g are going to continue to lie no matter what
I read somwhere c said she made the pc searches or it culda been her…tryng to take some of the pre-meditation off killr
who is calling today?
Pammy yes lots of sno….I am at 500ft and its like waaaay deep..batton down the hatches sistah cus its coming
well there isnt anyways i would believe that one pickles that C made those searches. people re not stupid…put 2 and 2 together..
maybe they think everyone will buy it.. but not…
Im callng
Oh yah I dont buy it either…c is just tryng to save killrs a~~
I’m going to try to…first part is about OJ and then casey next hour, should be good listening…
wasnt c at work when searches were made?? also bb made such a big deal out of crime scene them didnt even go there when it was released!
i would say i am not surprised now that they will try to save her… at the same time, noone with reasonable intelligence is gonna buy it.. you have people way more smart than me on this case who sees it for what this is, and certainly noone is buying at M’s innocence ..at this point anyways
i never followed the oj case never followed any till caylee
do you guys rember the menendez bro??? didnt they have a mistrial first then another trial then conviction???
burden is on state , and states gonna come in annilating (spellcheck)..lol, blasting, and will win IMO….someone said on some show i saw a news show…child killer cases cannot be won…
they might have got away with it if they hadnt been so greedy!
pammy i hope your right, i couldnt take it if m got out for something stupid!
yes anna I did… followed both, nauseating trials.. first mistrial second conviction… they were as guilty as sin… their lawyer was a big bozo herself…and stepped over all the rules of client/attorney with eric the younger one, hugging, coddling, right on camera. i heard awhile back eric got married ..lol or maybe the other one but yah their still waiting for appeal, new trial blah blah… blasted their parents hundreds of times with shotgun… cause supposedly dad was molesting them… um OK.. is that why mom needed to be blasted too!!!! sickening case
The reason they didnt go to the crime scene is cus killr prolly said dont bother here ill sketch it out for you…oh is my snake still there?
Anna.. morning..
If she did kill her accidently.. which in my heart I hope.. then why the duct tape on her mouth? Maybe to make it look like Zanny did it??
As screwy as that seems… it actually makes sense.
You would’t duct tape a dead body.. but if you were trying to make it look like a kidnapping…well yes, I think that is what she did.
ALL of it makes me want to puke!!!!
Its a epidemic…young ppl havng kids and killng them cus there to immature to deal with them and instead of having the bearings to give the child away for a better life they kill the child….
do any of you think at some point M has told BB? I mean in her messed up version? I mean do you think she has confessed anything to him? and hes not saying? I mean who would know
Red…I too am beginnning to think she duct taped her to make it look like a kidnappng..but I think it was after she chlorie poisend her….I think she poisoned her then taped her up…no broken neck..they said the bones had no truama….so I think she poisened her then taped her 2 fer the price of one…if she wakes she cant kick and thrash and it looks like an abduction
Yes I think she told bb I think that there goin to go for the crazy card….
heres my thoughts on duct tape, do we know that for sure? I mean alot came out about flesh being on duct tape then dr. g said no flesh present so i am not even sure if i believe now the duct tape around mouth, they came out with so many misleading stories, first clothes then no clothes, then duct tape with tissue then no tissues just bones.. so i dont know about that part now
Pammy if this storm is coming yur way….go get candles….we didnt lose power but lots of ppl did
lilred mo on duct tape was so if she woke up in trunk she couldnt cry out, but like pammy pointed out we dont know for sure about the tape, im hoping there was just so there might be prints on it, i couldnt immagine doing that to any child!
Pammy xactly….I mean its real hard to get true words in the whole mess these days…if there was duct tape …
I think the only reason killr wuntd bb to see the crime scene so she culd fine tune her story….then the state said no….she killed Caylee and she knows it..she got a headache..when Caylee was discoverd Caylee still gives her headaches in death….
Somone said yesterday that thre is so much evidence we havent seen and the state prolly has a lot of evidence that is going to sink her
yah i am nt so sure now on duct tape cause of the Dr g presser…. we’ll see, of course le could be holding back that info, but she did say no soft tissue so that would mean no duct tape with tissue stuck
blah ugh
i think when m realised caylee was dead she paniced, she couldnt call c cuz how would she explain drugging her child?? she kept her in trunk came up with a half assed story stayed away as long as she could so she didnt have to face c then when confronted came out with kidnapping story, if it was only c&g involved theyd believe her but le got involved and we know the rest!
i re-watched NG last night again and i gotta tell you seeing caylee now after we now know she is dead, its just become unbearable to watch any pics or vids of her… i choke up bad, and Isaid gees I never felt i could feel so much for another child other than my own..i mean its really hard to imagine shes really gone.. I think i need therapy now
Oh well…they have her HAIR…her hair is going to reveal IF killr was in fact givng her sedatives….I mean even if it only tells of the past…then its the past but at least we will all know the life Caylee was forced to live when forced to be with her mom..I think Caylee was ignored by killr and neglectd when c and g forced her to take her with her…
M2C… your comment to my comment!! haha
Yes, you are correct, the culmination of m’s raising by c & g is what resulted in poor Caylle’s death. I certainly agree that the way c& g
related to m for her ‘entire life’… covering up for her, makin g excuses
for her.. letting her run free.. all contributes to the person m had
become. When I said it wasn’t the parents fault. I meant m atually killing Caylee.. not the rest of their parenting skills (or lack there of).
They had to have known that m was a ticking bomb.. something evenentully would have happened.. and it did.
By no reason do I excuse c & g.. M is a product of their inablity to
raise a responsible, self reliant child.
Does that make sense??
i agree with you anna…on your total theory… accidental drugging, until they can show me more prrof on the pre-med.. just MO
No Anna she killd Caylee intentionally….she has been planning this…the ultimate freedom and the ultimate paybak…I dont think it was an accident…not at all…
pammy im with you hearing her sing and ask papa if he tired? gets to me everytime, such a sweet child, cant even immagine her ever being bad!
It makes sense…and they are going to need more proof…to prove intentionall…I think there is somthng wrong with some young ppl when they have kids….there is somthng in ther phycie or somwhere that dont understand the value of there child…I think they need to evaluate young ppl having or that have children…they need to be more involvd reach out to them…talk to them….
how long for toxicology report, and for them to find out how long bones were out there dr g said soon but any idea???
I cant watch or look at her now…just the thoughts….she is a beacon for all the lost children in my heart….I use to not really take notice of them…Oh I do now
at age 3 lol their all bad lol mine is a cross between the sweetest person you ever met, and then watch out, demon seed child…LOL
yah i see caylees tiny hands , i stare at her little body and i try to picture that tiny body being carted around in that car, and its too much i have to get busy doing something
?
young pep need support, also some parents just cuz thier kid had a child they are still kids and should be able to still participate in things with friends, im not saying every night but sometimes thats where family comes in to help, they do eventually grow up and will be appricative of the help youve given them!
Shoot my kids are the best/worse they can be 24/7 but I know the difference in thoughts and action..sur Id like to shape shift to my mothr and whip the shit out of my kids but im not gunna…im not gonna drug and lock my kid in the trunk..im not gunn beat my kid to death with a hammer…I aint gunna drowned em…there is somthng wrong with these young adults having children….IF somone wuld reach out to them in terms they understand it culd be prevented….
some older pep are just as irresponsible as the young, i have a friend who does foster care, couldnt immagine just giving up on getting my child back!
Caylees Law: Evaluate young adults who seem to be at risk of violence against children who are having or allready have children
wait till they become preteens, boy the mouths get going, i sometimes wonder where my sweet child is then the mood switches back,
where i live its very prevalent for young people to have a baby in fact the town i swear i never seen more young (18) year olds as parents.. what I see lacking is the joy, the marveling at their kids, the doting, what i see is misery on their faces, unhappiness… so, because i adore mine and when i had mine at 42, i just don’t get the mothers i see… sometimes they look at me like… oh thats nice.. when i describe something amazing mine has done lol… its all ok tho, everyone parents differently…and i know firsthand how hard it is being one… hardest thing i ever had to do.. alone… even not alone its hard raising kids! I always tell my own nieces to make sure they sew their oats before having kids…
Yah they are as irresponsible..but killr is going to try and pin this on mental innabilities..and has gotten off the dp cus of her young age…I know adults are screwd my aunt is a meth addict with 3 girls in the state foster system
pic i hope something good comes out of this to many children are hurt each yr by thier parents and it could be avoided if they had some help, just cince this case started ive read quite a few they all make me sad!
Pammy thats what im talkng about these young adults are all in need of an evaluation by the local welfare office..or wic…or health clinic. shit planned parenthood….it needs to start there..
I hope too..
honestly some of the moms i run into, i think to myself… if iw ere them i would well rather be dead than be in their shoes, i mean not to be eman but some of them, at their young age like 18 i mean their lives are clearly over… its all kids for 20 years…i see some with 4 trailing behind them, i cannot fathom that life… i’m not saying they dont love their kids but if you cannot supply the means, the roof, the food, the clothes then dont pop em out one after another, cause your nto doing that kid any good…
Wherd Mytwocents go?
novalis said,in December 20th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
NOVALIS=CECY isnt that nice
when i was 18 i was into my life, having fun, getting jobs, dating etc lol not changing diapers, ehading to wic office and welfare…having a career… kids was something i ddi to help my sis babysit and stuff.. so in todays world seeing women with 4 after them and then saying I dont know how I am gonna get groceries, well i think they should head to the hospital to get tubes tied and then stay way from men lol, and then stand by what you did, and raise them and ask for help
novalis said,in December 20th, 2008 at 10:44 pm
Hey CECY wass happening?
Hi, Lilred! Yes I did understand what you were saying and I’m sorry that I did not reflect that in my comment. I regarded your comment as a foundation that mine was just building on.
But I know what you meant and I’m glad you clarified it for everyone so I didn’t leave people mixed up about that!
Oh there yew are….our dear friend Novalis has been bak….
Pammy…I had my son when I was 22 and its been great….
Whois callng the show today?
Mytwocents jooh here
I had to mail yew somthng regardng the radio show…
Whut happend to PAW69?
Pickles… 2-3ft of snow??? EEEEKS..
I know you prob have said this b4, but where do you live?? That is alot of snow
Suliki..(oops spelled that wrong) if I give you my e-mail add, will send me some pic of your pups???
hmm… what has happened to PAW?? or Mollybear…
I did notice that Novalis is back.. Pickles, who exactly is she/he???
Red its only like a foot+ sorry
ORegon dahlng I live in ORegon
novalis= cecy
but whatever…….
Pammyliz,
I agree..some teenage mothers don’t know how to enjoy their children,
they are children themselves…
It hurts me to say it, but I enjoy my grandbaby more than I did my own children I think.. although I was 21 & 23 when I had my children.
Pickles.. damn, still alot of snow!!!
Look forward to hearing from joooh today.. and anyone who calls in!
Gotta run…. another Christmas party… my house this time. EEKS
xo
Lilred it is alot of sno….
Call duh show!!
show,sno,glow,hoe,blo,doe,i know,yo yo yo…see I have tons to contribute to the blog….tons…im a literary genious…!!!
L8drs Red…..have fun..knock bak a nog/liquer for me..tho I dont drink…im a lite weight..baaad….weeew one drink and the endorphines are a flowing…the first drop that hits the tongue…I get drunk..
The Anthony home has been taped off as another crime scene
The sheriff’s office warned people to keep their distance from the Anthony home, as there are No Trespassing signs along the private property.
Law enforcement is set to patrol the street reguarly. Surveillance cameras have also been installed
Just dumpd in the woods..
Now c and g’s house is a crime scene and its taped off
I think whoever said it was right..maybe she killd Caylee in the house…
Does that mean c and g cant go into there house…. 0.
0
Has C & G taken down their “Find Caylee” poster on the front door?
Is KidFinders and that criminal Dennis Milstead around?
As a mom who had her son when she was 18 almost 19 I cannot see how it can be generalized that my life isn’t happy or that I don’t dote on my son or have pure joy for him. There is an exception to everything.
Being in the military life a lot of us get married young and have kids young and I havn’t met a woman who hasn’t been unhappy having children young.
I am still in college right now doing my pre req’s online to get my neonatal nursing degree.
I am trying not to get offended because I understand what a lot of you are trying to say but its not the states or anyone but the parents and grandparents responsibility if they are young parents to help them through it as well as raising the child.
I am raising my son at 21 2,000 miles + away from all of my family and I think I do a pretty good job.
Sorry I’ll get off my soap box now but the reason this case gets to me is because I CANT imagine being like m or doing any of this to a child. A child I absolutely love even though I never met her.
hi everyone,how is everyone doing after the terrible news?i am stll in a state of shock,plus the fact i am so angry over some people baez included on how this was some kind of accident and she didn’t do it on purpose,so she puts duct tape over the babys mouth,right
Hi flowerchild! I think were all still in shock/disgust
what is this i am hearing that they found caylee’s book there at the crime scene is this true?
Hi, e1 Dateline MSNBC is having a special 1hr special on our Caylee. It is at 7 and 10p.m. I am so disgusted with bb trying to pin this on the meter reader, insinuating that that man had something to do with the murder. Does anyone remember when someone on the blog thought that Caylee’s body had been moved? I think bb is suggesting that the meter reader moved the body.
Flower yes they found her book
I don’t think I can listen to the radio show today. I hate and despise O.J. and I really wish I never had to hear his name again. He finally got his, justice delayed is still justice. And the way he moved his money around so he wouldn’t have to pay the Goldmans made me ill. Praying for Caylee and all of you. bbl this is a hit and run cause it is so busy here, have a good day.
Thats ridiculous LE has done stated that Caylees body had been dumped there a long time ago and there is no indication it had been placed there at any other time….it has been in that spot the whole time
The oj show and the regular radio show are two diff shows at two diff times
two diff shows two diff times
are c and g still going to stand by casey now,knowing that caylee is dead and did that book lead LE back to the house?
The book and possibly other things they have found lead them to the house.
I really wonder what caused yet another search warrant hmm..
and how can some people claim this was not a homicide,yes i know there was no trauma to the bones but toxicology hasn’t came back yet,why else one someone duct tape her mouth shut and wrap her head in duct tape
Idk I trust Dr.G and if she from a professional opinion has ruled as homicide then i think that is a good indicator.
yes DR G is good,and she would not lie for anybody,she was almost in tears to that day
there is a new blog open caylee anthony’s grandparents home target for new search warrant,or something on that line
FOLLOW THE WHITE RABBIT….BREAD CRUMBS…BREAD CRUMBS,…..NEW ARTICLE
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SHAN
I commend you for all your doing as a young mom, and I in NO way meant to say that all young mothers are bad ones or not happy
by far, I see alot of good ones. I was stating the area I live in I see alot of that, but I have to agree my own mom was an army wife and was married at age 17, and had 3 kids later, so no offense was meant to you or anyone, I just see alot of it in alot of young moms, its so apparent on their faces, and worse the lifestyles they live, no food, no clothes, no way to provide, no jobs, for that I say women that age should stop having kids…it isnt fair to bring a child into this world, and then make the child suffer a life that is the moms own messed up life… (casey)
so again, sounds like your a great mom! doing it all good! ( p.s. I had mine at 42 and I dont think i could have pulled it off too well at your age…),, I dont know tho some say the patience is more there when your younger ? lol…
C-A… I just read your post re. the book and shoes…Suddenly I just got a terrible image of M’s mind. She said Zanny was the last person I saw her with. What if she gave Caylee the book to read, gave her Zanax, took her shoes off, and maybe her clothes as well and killed her. And perhaps she killed her at her favorite childhood spot, which in her twisted mind would equate with…She is safe and close to home.
I am not implyng that all young ppl who have childrn are bad either…im just sayng that they are out there and they need to be addressed so that we dont lose more childrn to this problem….older parents also….
Lilred yes you can give me the email, I will gladly send pics.
MOLLYBEAR - BB is accusing the meter reader now? He’s switching stories because he is getting too confused with deciding which M story to use.
1) M has said she went to Zani’s apt. after “work” to pick up her daughter and no one was home. She sat on the steps for a few minutes, then called Z’s cell phone, there was no answer. She then drove a couple places that she knew Z used to go with Caylee. She never found them.
2) M went to Jay Blanchard Park where Z restrained her while Z’s sister ran off with Caylee. She claims she was handed a note of “what to tell the police.”
There was a comment (maybe on NG that I never heard a followup on, that M told C “I might have given the housekey to someone.
Nanny, meter reader - oh heck, just blame Waldo.
This trial is going to be something else. There must be a stack of evidence and notes stacked 6′ high.
Hm … one big thing O.J. and KC have in common, besides being murderers, they BOTH have the DREAM TEAM. Now **HOW** did she do that? Maybe the Dream Team is feeling the money crunch in our economy, and need money now,(money to put Grandchildren thru College, etc.),so signed up for film or book deals?
I think the LIES … the DISGUSTING ON-GOING LIES in this case are what has made this HATRED we all obviously feel - for them. We hate, I think, their “trying to get-over on us”, thing too. The thinking that WE are so stupid,(and L.E.), and THEY are oh so clever! They can pull the wool over our eyse, anyday of the week. RIGHT!
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