George and Cindy Anthony spoke to the media after their Sunday night prayer vigil that was held for Caylee Marie Anthony, their granddaughter that has been missing since mid June. Casey Anthony, the mother of Caylee is being held without bail in the Orange County Jail and is being charged with first degree murder even though the child has not been found yet.
When asked what they thought about the state not going after the death penalty for their daughter they claim not to be surprised at all. Cindy Anthony also stated that the release of the videos showing their meetings with Casey when they visited her in jail doesn’t upset her at all.
“I said from the very beginning if they would have shown those tapes they would have seen that she does have emotions. She does care, does love her family. She’s not a cold, callous person like everybody wants to paint her out to be. She is a desperate, loving mother,” said Cindy Anthony.
I almost choked when I read that statement. Does she really think that watching those videos will make the public see Casey like that? All they did to me was make me see what a self-centered person she is (and that is being nice) The only time emotions were seen is when she talked about wanting to get out of there. She knew she had to say it was for Caylee but she didn’t mean that and it was very obvious.
Cindy Anthony claims she doesn’t watch all the media coverage but I bet she does. She wants to see just how many of them are mentioning her name in the news. She wants to see just how popular she is getting. She also said that there is about to be a lot of national exposure. She was speaking of tomorrow morning’s “Today” Show. Jose Baez is scheduled to be a guest. Then on Wednesday Cindy and George plan to fly to California to appear as guests on “The Larry King Show”.
For someone who hates and blames the media for how messed up things are right now they sure like talking to the National TV Stations, don’t they? If this was a crusade in attempts to actually find little Caylee I would be all for it. I wouldn’t be able to live with myself if I was part of this family. They are on a crusade to save their precious brat and that is about it. The Anthony’s have to know by now that Casey did something with Caylee and she will probably never be found now.
She said while they are in California they plan to use the trip to investigate another possible sighting of Caylee on the West Coast. How convenient for them that this sighting came up now while they are going to be on the west coast.
I hope one day the Anthony’s wake up and see their lying conniving self-centered daughter for what she is. I somehow doubt they ever will though. They want so much to believe every word Casey tells them that they can’t even consider the possibility that Caylee is gone. Casey should be so ashamed of herself for putting her family through this to begin with. Now I doubt if any of the Anthony’s will receive much sympathy from anyone other than a handful of people. It might appear to them they are getting sympathy from networks like NBC and ABC but you can bet their only interest is ratings for their show. They could care less about the Anthony’s or what they are interviewing them about. I am curious about just how much of this Larry King Show will be about finding Caylee. I bet there will be more talk about how Casey is in jail and how innocent she is and how Law Enforcement is out to get her and them.
When Caylee looks down at us from heaven I hope her heart can possibly forgive her family as she watches what they are doing. If she were my daughter and I knew I had done something to her like this I wouldn’t want to live anymore. We all know in Casey’s mind that is right opposite from what she is thinking. She thinks now she can start living again, because she is convinced by her lawyer she will get out of this and be free again. I can’t wait to see the look on her face when they find her guilty of first degree murder. I bet we see tears then because she will know she will be an old lady when she gets out of prison (IF she ever does) and no man will want her then. Then maybe Caylee will get her justice.
Caylee America still loves you sweetie. God bless you!
Jan Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI couldn’t have said it any better Jan, it just makes me sick at my stomach watching these last videos between Casey & her family. How Cindy & Lee are writing down all the B.S. info Casey is shoveling out. Zeneida is thin & tan blah , blah. How these people can even talk with her & laugh(I ate cole slaw, he he). They are all nuts. The only sane one in the bunch is Cindy’s brother. Casey will NEVER admitt to this & her parents will always think she was framed.
Excellent!! 5 *****! I could not agree with you anymore Jan!! Great job at an honest article…we need more people like you!
Jan - This is one of the finest articles you’ve written regarding this entire fiasco of a case. Thanks to you and Simon, we all have a place to share our views on probably all aspects of this tragic event.
Cindy is an idiot and no one believes her.. not even her own brother.. George totally looks like he is a pupet being strung along by Cindy! We all can see that George has integrity but he is too far up Cindy’s rear. And Lee, the loyal brother no longer jumps to defend Casey… Wonder why? Casey deserves to rot in jail for the rest of her life and Cindy needs a mental hospital! No wonder Casey is such a liar, she is just like her mother! Casey is better off in jail because there is only 1 person left on this earth that “believes” her and that is her mother.. if she were to get out of jail, she would be be another OJ and the world would hate her and never leave her alone! Cindy, can’t you see that no one believes you and even your attorney fired you because he was sick of your mouth! Wake up and shut up! Instead of a vigil, how about a funeral?
The Anthony’s keep going on shows because they are invited. So stop inviting them! I really can’t wait for this trial.
Sick dysfunctiiona household, God is taking care of Caylee now. I can only imagine what this child would have been should she have stayed in and around this atmosphere for many years, a Casey number 2 ? This family needs some help and not publicity and money, which they are enjoying, no doubt!
Jan, this is one of the best written articles I think I have ever read about the Anthony’s. It is so true. I think the whole family has mental problems. If that were me in jail, my Mother would beat the truth out of me. Cindy and George need to wake up.
I hope Larry king tear he up right on the tv show
And show everone what a fool she is
Everyone keeps forgetting this fact:
The hair that was found in the trunk of Evil Casey’s car is from an Anthony member who is dead. Does anyone know of another member of the Anthony family who is unacounted for?
I rest my case
I HAD such sympathy for those grandparents. I truly thought Cindy was in such deep denial….and George…closer to the truth than he wanted to admit to himself or anyone…
I DON’T want to hear Cindy babble on anymore on how they are closer to finding Caylee and all the “supposed” sightings. I know people come up missing then reappear. This is CLEARLY NOT one of those situations. I wanted to get physically ILL when I watched those latest jailhouse interviews. If Cindy cannot see the visible lies spewing from her daughters eyes, mouth and soul….then she clearly does not know her daughter….or does not want to know…for her own selfish reasons, or guilt. George certainly knows the physical signs that someone shows when lying. I can only hope that George grows a set and does what’s right for Caylee. It should have been done while his daughter was in the house…but honestly…the denial charade is over. Baby Caylee…my heart breaks for you. To imagine what she did to you, and your body, I cannot bear the thoughts. I pray you are found and given last respect and justice. It won’t come from your blood family though, that is obvious. It will come from millions that are praying for you with all their hearts.
Blessings little one, our prayers are with you.
It is amazing on the prison video’s, that Casey talks about it being not only the worse thing that has happened to her, but the worse thing that has happened to her family. Where was Caylee in any of that statement?
Unbelieaveable!! I mean really, the Anthonys say since they are going to be in California to be on T.V., they will be checking out a sighting of Caylee tip…..well that pretty much says it all……maybe it should have been..since we are going to jump on a plane this minute because we heard of a sighting of Caylee, and hopefully its true, but if not, we will do a segment on t.v. to beg whoever has Caylee to please call.(although, we all know shes not coming back) , at least the Anthonys could try to be more convincing. This is so unfair that networks are still sucking up to her and letting her speak on the air. I think its time to tell her NO ONE WANTS TO HEAR ANYTHING SHE HAS TO SAY, because its all b.s anyway. I wonder what would happen if no body gave them or Casey the time of day and just waited for the trial, and then when Casey is convicted of murder and sentenced to life without parole, then put the micriphones in there faces and see what they have to say. Because I bet at the trial, there will be no more room for any excuses from any of the Anthony family, and if they still cant except the facts, then maybe the nice men in the clean white coats should be there to take them away….
I agree with all on this subject. One thing I can not understand is if there are sightings and they are being checked out, who would be so stupid to allow an abducted child to be seen? A person who kidnaps a child will not let anyone see the child if they intend to keep them, now this is nuts! Cindy and George have to be dumb as a box of rocks if they really think this is the case. Somebody should possibly see that they are evaluated for sanity. They are so wooled over in the eye area by their lying daughter, they can not even see the real story here. Those of us who have watched the tapes are convinced that Casey is lying as well as the fact that Cindy at least is coaching her. Cindy leads the conversation and Casey follows that lead, putting on her little act. As in, “is someone threatening us?”, well, darn that’s it, my out by saying that I kept mum to protect the family! From what? Somebody needs to protect them after the trial when a riot may take place after all the facts are made public. I am sure that the public is not privy to all the facts or evidence in this case, otherwise there would be no trial. It will be interesting to hear what they know that we don’t and until that time, they should physically gag Cindy to shut her mouth!
I know it has already been said, but I couldn’t have said it better myself.
Those tapes only add a little more guilt to what we already know. She showed emotion only to wanting to go home and be a little girl again. She cares nothing for Caylee. IMO she tries to show emotion and really failed. What a joke for C to think that this does anything. These people need to wake up, get a grip, or whatever else one might say.
Ok, my wonderful comcastic cable TV is out once again. So at this point watching NG looks hopeless.
If there is anything new, can someone please post it as it’s happening.
Thank You
Good evening all. I just found two interesting sites. One shows all the emails with Cindy and her family early on before all this occurred. Very suspicious indeed. http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155446.pdf
the other one is a blog site with oodles of information. It seems to have been set up by Paddy and his nephew it is http://buildaforum.com/renegadeinvestigations/
It is just full of interesting facts and deductions
Great article! ***** (5 stars)
The other thing I wanted to vent about is …I think it was on mom logic, but not sure. There was a blogger who was saying that the “kidnappers put a dead body in Casey’s trunk and that is why there is evidence of decompisistion there.” “and that we should all keep our comments to ourselfs since we don’t know the facts”…….I would bet almost everything I have that it was not a blogger , but it was Cindy, I mean no one else would come up with that crap . So my comment to Cindy is “why the heck are you wasteing time reading these when if you truly think Caylees alive, you are not out looking for her, or doing something constructive in any of the searches for her instead of trying to convince people to believe Casey when if you had half a brain, you would know she only cares about herself. And let me also say Cindy, if your wasting more time reading these, that its one thing to love your child unconditionally and stand by them through anything, stand by them while they accept the consequinces of there crime, and still love them no matter what they have done. But to lie for them, try to make people believe what you yourself know is not the truth, obstruct justice in order to try and get her a not guilty verdict, etc.. is not loving your child unconditionally. All its doing is showing them its ok to lie or steal or whatever to get what they want. THAT IS NOT LOVE. If my child did something like this, no , I would not disown them, I would still love them,and I would always be there as there parent, but I would not lie to protect them from taking responsibility for there actions, I would want them to stand up and accept the responsibility and take what punishment there actions warrented. And hopefully, they could become a better person in the future. Casey will become worst if you help her try and cover her actions up. think about it Cindy,if your reading any of these. You need to step up and be a parent.
I doubt the police will ever get a confession out of Casey but let’s hope that if the prosecution can’t put a strong enough case together today we can hope for some OJ Simpson style justice somewhere down the line. If she is guilty she will never be able to put it behind her. Like OJ, Casey will find herself in some other situation that will land her in jail. If she is not responsible for Caylee’s death, at the very least she’s a neglectful mother who gave repeated false statements to law enforcement hindering efforts to find Caylee and that is a crime.
Word Carly if she isnt found guilty now then hopefully somwher down the road she gets pinchd fur somthing else!!!
Word Carly if she isnt found guilty now then hopefully somwher down the road she gets pinchd fur somthing else!!! I dont think she will ever confess eithr…why shuld she…I think if I ever knew whut she wus truelly doin to that child..I wuld rather not kno…
hey guys moved from the old blog, inc ase you didn’t read it SEAN KRAUSE posted a comment on the old blog 118810
and deblynn came back
118910
If the Ants claim they have ABSOLUTE proof that Caylee is alive (per NG show), from a video, then why are they checking out lead in Cali?
And why do they still claim the one in FLA mall was Caylee?
The 10-minute memory brain disfunction Casey suffers from appears to have been inherited. (Padilla’s idea that M lies, only thinking ahead 10 minutes at a time).
All of them–G, C, L, and M say whatever pops into their heads, without looking ahead more than 10 minutes.
And then 15 minutes later, when what they said has been proven false, they just completely ignore it. I’ve never seen anything like this in my entire life!
They are the 10-minute FAM and somehow they’ve come to believe that their world begins anew every 10 minutes!!!
[Somebody better warn them that the courts don’t “live” by this rule!]
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For anyone who missed NG, important issue revealed. Ants complain they can’t get their own copies of these “sightings” videos, yet the only way to obtain them is to ask a judge for permission.
And guess what? Neither the Ants nor Baez have ever asked a judge for permission! It’s all a ploy. If they truly believed these sightings were real, they WOULD already have the copies.
(the paperwork must require more than 10 minutes, I guess. lol)
Thanks pammyliz!
hey all I am still on old blog, sean has posted some more comments
While Casey was home on bail, I think she has told Cindy something to make Cindy fight to save the families image. I can’t believe that Cindy is doing all this just for Casey. I think it is about all of them. And, by Cindy’s actions, she seems to have some sort of Circus con artist skill of making the best out of nothing…smoke and mirrors when you have nothing. And you know the irony of it all, she may have a short time in the news with George, but the bottom line will still be the same. Guilty on all counts.
Don’t worry bloggers, I did not take it personal at all…I believe everyone has a right to there thoughts..I sure do….I jumped in to share my opinions like you all…You can agree or disagree….I can say I know LE as well, my belief is on my life experience, not books, or opinions of others. C just sparked in me an old memory I had, and I symphathized with her with all my heart, and I hate her daughter for doing this, but I think she is so sick in the head…I watched her again on NG and I see she has them so wrapped..Again C is totally upside down in sorrow,grief,anger,untrust,denial,truth,just a mixture of emotions that I don’t think anyone can comprehend unless your there…..That is why I syphathize and have empathy to her…Its a crock for every bad seed to be blamed on the parents….It such a crock…..
Amen J ramsey Guilty on all counts!!!
deb lynn you came back to us!!
Yah I agree too, I have empathy I really do, even with the way the ansta re acting, I still feel their pain and sorrow. it is because of M that M forced them all to be doing all that their doing. I am not so sure if C knows that happened, but G i am pretty sure does..
GREAT post to sean krause on other blog!!!
Pooor Sean I knew he wus gunna read the blog…I just hadda feeling…gosh..
Pammyliz,,,can you furnish a link to Sean Krause post?
I know it pickles but those commenters were a few not the regs on here…
deb lynn came back to us lol
I am battling my girl tonight, shes been having a major metldown all evening
yes hold on a sec
old blog article of Sean krause posts
http://www.bloggernews.net/118910
It dunt matter if it wus regulars or not…but whutevr
give her kisses and huggz little gurls love that!!
I am still holding on for a sec for the link to his post.
Im sorry….
http://www.bloggernews.net/118910#comment-812194
Its the article..
Caylee Anthony the radio program people speak out
December 7th..
I am so sorry..we are all over ther now…
did it post the link..I have trubble postng links sumtimes!!!
J.Ramsey did it post?? the link??
no, but thank you Pickles.
The videos show Casey with emotions? What family uses the term “reach out” to mean call or speak to. All the Anthony’s use that term. How shallow are these relationships. Do you talk to your mom like that? “Oh, absolutely”. The Adaams Family looks normal next to these people. How many times does George refer to Caylee as “this little girl”. When they talk to her they are afraid. She has the whole family brainwashed - probably for years. If I was in that situation I’d be screaming for her to talk - where’s the baby? - what have you done? I wouldn’t even be able to sit calmly - I’d be sick to my stomach and a hysterical mess - “I know we will all be together again - I feel it in my gut” Yeah, in heaven. What a poorly acted out drama, but one they have probably played forever. It’s obvious they are loving the media attention and really don’t care much about what really happened to Caylee. When they mention all the efforts by all the people and organizations, the answer “Oh, that’s nice - that’s good” If my kid was missing and the nation was looking for her I’d be thanking God and crying my heart out in appreciation. If you are innocent, why would you have to hide anything you say? Who would care if the visits were being recorded. She would be screaming out the injustice, blaming all that needed to be blamed and screaming to get out to get that person that took her baby…. Well, that is in the real world. Wow - They’re creepy and they’re kooky, Mysterious and spooky, They’re all together ooky, the Anthony F A M I L Y
(I’m the thumb, Cindy’s the pointer … oh, brother)
- Laurie
Posted 12/06/08 02:55 PM
I’m sorry j ramsey i did post the link i see it on my screen its 118910.. put your cursor in the http, and change your numbers…
Laurie, you are not only logical, you are hysterical! I agree with all you said in your 11:09 pm post and I even snapped my fingers at the end of your song!
Hello to everyone!
Laurie, serious but yet funny! thanks! Welcome to the blog.
Have alot of reading to do so won’t blog much, but I will be a firefly tonite!
I am glad to see that alot of the regular bloggers stood up for Sean!! As always, you give the respect to everyone, even to those that sometimes don’t deserve it (Sean bashers), but it just goes to show what intelligent, fair minded, knowledgable (spell check) bloggers you are. I am proud to be a part of BNN and my blogger friends rock!
follow the white rabbit…..118910
Laurie - very funny! Too bad George didn’t take that “finger family” and put them all into a fist and smack her upside the head.
Jan, I would bet if we added up all of Cindy’s “mug time” in front of cameras and added it to the time she has spent complaining about other organization or trying to wrestle other financial opportunists away from the Caylee gravy train - it would outweigh the actual time she has spent searching for Caylee by at least 1,000,000 to one. It’s too bad we are all so fascinated at looking at this train wreck - we should really be writing angry letters to the stations who believe these exhibitionistic idiots deserve a minute more of air time.
Perhaps they are going to California to formally submit their daughter’s name for an Emmy. Not that any of us thinks she deserves one. Her play-acting is amateurish and pathetic. She belongs on the Gong Show. She is a caricature of a person.
Concerned in Texas - if you are correct and this is a 10 minute family, then they have had more than their 15 minutes of fame. Time for this show to get cancelled - quick.
I would be willing to forego seeing any of their faces again until the trial actually starts. But most particularly Casey and Cindy’s. Overexposed.
Great article, Jan!
This hoh has a bad case of “I” strain, it’s all about me,me,me and her folks are adding fuel to the fire. Maybe there was a SLIM chance (and hell freezing over) that she would have fessed up, but with her folks pussy-footin’around and walking on eggshells with her, it ain’t gonna happen. Hah, this is probably the first time CA and KC have spoken without each of them going for the others jugular! I think they should get tough with her for once and disown her if she refuses to disclose the remains. Tough love…
Those jail conversations are like nails on a blackboard. “Hey gorgeous”? “Sweetie”? FFS, get real!
She wants to go home? Well, tough, so did Caylee…
She ate coleslaw? Balogna? Grits? Aw, poor baby; what tf is Caylee eating?!
She “never wanted to be on TV”? Yeah, well just like Scott P, whoda thunk it would become national news eh? Luck of the draw there, “gorgeous”, your plan backfired!
What’s with the “I’m glad I’m not out there”
(x 2)comment?!
She’s luvin all the undivided attention,lying around all day eating, sleeping, reading, snacking…someone else does your laundry, cooks your meals,etc. Like she’s on a vacation,fgs.
Sounds like she was going to get a bit snarky when she asked someone to “turn down the volume” cause her “head was ready to explode” (too bad it didn’t)…and then that stupid laugh…
FOR THOSE WHO MISSED IT!
SeanKrause said,in December 8th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
Well I was asked by Simon to come back so I will be returning. I think the show needs some expansion to answer the bulk of questions, as people have a lot.
I have a strong heart, I just don’t understand why some people are upset because of my language I use. I run an uncensored news site, I don’t conform or change, I’m just me. I’ll continue to offer my help to those who do care. People are always wanting more, somethings I can’t speak on, but for what I do know, it’s good to have someone who knows what is going on.
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Thank you for joinning us on blogger talk radio! Bless your heart for taking the time out of what must be such a trying time in your life to care about Caylee and Justice.
See you again on the show!
I have stated long ago, the media and this country need to ignore this trash of a family called the Ants! Their 15 minutes was up long ago. I say we have heard enough of thier accusations toward LE and anyone else who doesn’t agree with them.
Ironically, the only deception in this case seems to come from the Ants! To mention just a few examples, we know C admitted to having turned over a brush that isn’t the specific brush LE ask for. Oh yeah, and C washed M’s clothes found in the car with the “rotten pizza” on them! Oh, and who can forget the Ants, “airing out the car”, knowing full well “it smells like there’s been a dead body in the damn car”! No, I’d say we have someone else we cannot trust in this case and it’s not LE!
LE one the other hand has been compasionate and professional. For example, we see the Detectives holding C’s hands, trying to confort her, when C is confronted with the truth. Not one detective has been on a media “tour” like the Ants! In fact, if anyone with half a brain was presented the evidence in this case, removing the names and such, they would have the same feelings LE has about M!
If the Ants are the “pure” and “innocent” “victims” they say they are, then submit to a polygraph test, testify in Court and let’s see hear from all of your “character witnesses” to verify your quality of your family. Otherwise, shut the hell up!
Caylee should really be the focus, all efforts should be on finding her. Unfortunately, the Ants psycho daughter in jail has derailed any legitimate leads to find Caylee. Here’s what the Judge should tell M, “you lost your child, you have lied about what happened to her. You either tell us the truth, take us to the body or you spend the rest of your life in jail for losing your child”! “Now, can you start over? Tell us where is Caylee”?
I say, we all ignore this ignorant family and get on with the searches for Caylee. M will face justice, and hopefully, the Ants will be held accountable for thier slanderous staements aimed at LE and for obstruction of justice! Go away Ants, someone will find your granddaughter and the creepy daughter you brought into this world will have hell to pay!
Ive read every transcript posted on this case. But even before that, I didnt have to kno a thing to see that this so called mother was guilty. As a mother of three, I would freak out if I havent seen one of my children in a couple of hours. There would be no partying (yes im still “young” enough to do that) or hanging out with friends and getting wasted. I would be searching day and night for my child, and if i was “afraid” of some unknown persons doing harm to my family or to the child that was just abducted I would go directly to the police, after buying a gun for myself cause i would make sure that if i did catch the bastards that took my child it would be the last thing they ever did.
Is this what our world has become? Where a lying, conniving, thief is believed until the ends of the world by the very family that she has committed these acts against? I think Cindy needs to google that neck breaking article again and apply it to her lying daughter until the truth comes out.
Hopefully they arent keeping this secret because Caylee is the product of incest between the father or brother and Casey. Who gives a crap if she is, the main thing is that an innocent child should not have had to suffer like this and a guilty person should not be allowed to “profit” from this tragedy. The truth will come out and I just hope that justice is served.
jan great article, i cant wait ti see her convicted either. i heard texas equasearch was here in minnesota doing training with cadaver dogs seing if they could follow a sent in hevy snow, guess they can thats amazing!
when c asked m if she had anything to say to the media she didnt bother to thank anyone whao has been looking for caylee only she forgives zanni? i wouldnt be able to sit there and visit i know id be the one asking questions about what was going on with my child i bet if c&g didnt bring it up she wouldnt have even asked, and its very coincedental they are gonna look at a tip on west coast, wonder if they are getting paid for larry king? does anyone know?
wow 2 hr late start for school doesnt happen much here they have these kids going no mattr how much snow there is
omg there is a missing teen here to far and snowy to go help look! i only hope he is alive, if he was left outside he would have frozen
HELLOOOOOOO! any one here?
after all the bs of bb wanting all the tips on caylee after a month he still hasnt picked them up hes been left mes but hasnt got them yet, hmmmm….
Dan - I like your common sense analogy of this charade. From the beginning I’ve asked the question as to why does the system allow these psycho’s to carry on this nonsense. Bottom line, and as you stated the parents should be held accountable for their obstruction of justice. Guarantee they are covering for more than simply to salvage their deceitful daughter.
it’s weird that even in text messages to her friends she lies so convincingly about being BOGGED down in work and her damn boss and workload!! except she had no boss and no job and no work. then she bitches about zanny/zanni/zani…except there was no zanny the nanny. then she bitches about her parents except she wasn’t even in contact with them and was robbing them blind when they were out of the house. then she bitches about how much fun caylee is having except caylee was long dead at that point. and the damn squirrel that got caught in the engine. except it was her dead daughter in the trunk. she lies and lies and lies.
anna said,in December 9th, 2008 at 7:43 am after all the bs of bb wanting all the tips on caylee after a month he still hasnt picked them up hes been left mes but hasnt got them yet, hmmmm….
Maybe BB and the ants are in a stand-off to see who’s going to fork over $900 to get the copies of the sightings!!! LOL!
emma amazing at how far she takes her leis to what extreme she goes to to convince herself!
Flash, Thank you! Ah, common sense… a lost art these days! LOL
no ones child is safe with the ants around people taking survelance of children, id be pissed if someone was survrying my child especially when m cant tell a straight answer maybee if she had been truthfull from the beginning i might believe some of these tips but with all the bs shes told i cant believe any of it!
the ants have the money to fly to la why not get the tips??? or is there another reason they dont want to pay the 900, if i truly felt my child was alive id be pawning everything in my home for that money to look at thoes tips!
barbie girl@6:17 the ants cannot acount for that, maybee its a long lost ant some distant relitave?
The apple doesn’t fall far from the tree-the whole family lies and are a strange bunch to say the least. The videos don’t show an emotional Casey (except about herself as Jan mentioned), but hit home even more the fact that Casey is a good liar - not great at all, it’s just that she has a mother (especially Cindy) who just wants to believe all the non=sense she spouts-despite all Casey has done in the past-and i’ll just bet there’s been plenty more we don’t even know about. The jig is up Cindy, and for once in your life-be quiet! Poor Caylee……
What you wrote (below) is right, Barbie Girl and I believe it is mitochondrial DNA which means it’s from the mother’s side. So if it’s not Casey and it’s not Cindy and it’s not Cindy’s mother, then….?
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Barbie Girl said,in December 8th, 2008 at 6:17 pm Everyone keeps forgetting this fact:
The hair that was found in the trunk of Evil Casey’s car is from an Anthony member who is dead. Does anyone know of another member of the Anthony family who is unacounted for?
I rest my case
I can’t believe that bozo puts up such a damn stink about give me this and give me that…and of all things, doesn’t pick up the tips he was screamin about.
So if LEMON is off the case ( I didn’t hear that) the real reason for the potential delay in the case would be another LEAD attorney since bozo is NOT qualified?
Lemon trying to say it’s cause Strickland is not overseeing the case anymore. Anyone know why?
i didnt know lemon was off the case, hmm..
Mr. Baez is qualified to represent Ms. Anthony for the Murder 1 charge due to the fact the death penalty option was removed by the prosecution.
Please see my post @3:55 A:M: and you will gain insight into Mr. Baez’s defense for Ms. Anthony.
Retired: Oh ok, I will check it out. I just thought they said from the beginning he wasn’t qualified for a murder one case.
anna: Lemon was on NG last night and NG was calling him the “former attorney” for m.
Retired: There is no post from you at 3:55am possibly another article?
C~A Yes Retired was on yesterdays’ blog@3.55am
Mr. Baez was not state qualified to represent MS. Anthony when the death penalty was an option for the jurors to consider. Mr. Baez has represented one Murder 1 defendent who was found guilty.
Mr. Baez speciality is represnting clients for DUI offenses.
Gooood morning….how goes it???
Hi Attorney nice to see you again!!
Thank you
Did you listen to the show???
Yes, I enjoyed it very much.
You should consider a career in broadcasting, Pickels.
Ohh me?? In broadcasting…are you sur..alls I do is laugh and giggle…
Good Morning e1,
Oh hey I gotta go my son to school…I will return…
Mornin Molly!!
Adios mis amigos…!!!
Dear retired, what is your overall opinion of this case?
CA Ret attorneys post is on old blog
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Morning broadcaster pickles!!!
Morning everyone!
I haven’t blogged in over a week, I was starting to feel withdrawal symptoms!! I’ve been flying in and out tho (fireflying, that is) and I love reading all the insight from the new bloggers! Hope you’re all doing well- where’s my fellow Canadian, eh??!!?
If I may ret attorny can I copy and paste your comment here on this article from old blog, cause it was sooooooooo good!!!!????
This is an excellent post. You really hit me with the vision of Caylee looking down on her family…that poor baby didn’t have a chance in this dysfunctional sludge pile. Jose Baez, who just appeared on the Today Show to serve out more ridiculousness, is proclaiming that we don’t know the whole story. It will be interesting to see what twisted yarn will be served up at trial as the story du jour. Casey’s life and movements before, during and after the disappearance of her child are pretty transparent since she spent most of her time yapping and texting. Unfortunately for her there was no yapping with anyone named Zenaida.
Morning, Pickles! Saluki– you did great on the radio show!!! PammyLiz, you were on too, right? And our Pickles, you all were great!!! Brought up interesting facts. And I see RAJ(Retired Att. John) is here. Should be a great day of blogging!!!! Well, I will have to catch up later, got Dr.’s Appt. Bye
well with bb record maybe m will get life
was reading diane downs is up for parole today, i hope she doesnt get it after what she did to thoes children,seing fara play her i expected her to be beautifull, NOT!
if we dont know the whole story they should get it out if in any way it would bring caylee home, thier whole story is nothing but more lies but probably more elaborate for the jury!
i got to head off to work soon, but be back tonight. great to see you all here today!!!
BBL
Ya, great defense! .OH GOODIE! Bi-polar…now that’s the ” oh now we understand”…we have all been waiting for!
GOOD LUCK MR. AND MRS. B MAGGOTT
if m was b-polar with c being a nurse she should have noticed, or maybee c nursing degree is the same a zanni, fake!
c~a i didnt see the morning show is tht what bb said?
I feel bi polar today LOL
my washer just broke not even a year old, so yah I am feeling polar today
Baez was interviewed on NBC Today this morning stating that M is innocent and we will all know that when the evidence comes out at trial. If she is innocent, who is saying she’s bipolar, a molested victim, with PPD? She’s a poor messed up Mother of the Year innocent defendant? I’m so confused.
It seems Mr. Baez is leaning in the direction of an insanity/bi-polar defense. In the letter submitted to the prosecution the defense cites several different scenio’s for Ms. Anthony’s defense to why she may have murdered Caylee Marie, many “what if’s”.
Andrea Yates and Susan Smith are perfect examples of woman that kill due to a temporary in balance in the mind. The prosecution withdrew the death penalty option which is a tell tale sign that Mr. Baez will follow suit, and defend Ms. Anthony as a woman who suffers from bi-polar disease. Again, having a bi-polar disorder is neither a reason nor an excuse to murder your child. Ms. Anthony has been evaluated for mental disorders, and she is not bi-polar.
Yes, Pammy you may paste my post.
Is Baez doing this to generate sympathy from the jury, even though it will be proven that she murdered her daughter. How much will it impact the length of sentence, since the DP is already off the table?
It reminds me of the Menendez brothers case where they tried to prove they were severely abused instead of acting out of greed to generate sympathy.
Mr. Baez did save Ms. Anthony’s life. Job done, case over.
Ms. Anthony will spend her entire life behind bars without the possibility of parole. IMO
You’re irritable in the store. You’re irritable with the cashier. You’re irritable with the subway conductor. You’re irritable with everybody, and it turns into anger, and it’s very destructive.”
— Greg
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maybe she is bi (lol)
really, if bozos going to use that as a defence…wouldn’t it have to be proved…and what kind of defence is it anyway?…NONE
Do they know she’s fried and just trying to minimize the sentence?
Also they say that bi-polars usually but now always have a member of the family who is affected as well….ring any bells…
Symptoms of mania include:
Increased energy level
Less need for sleep
Racing thoughts or mind jumps around
Easily distracted
More talkative than usual or feeling pressure to keep talking
More self-confident than usual
Focused on getting things done, but often completing little
Risky or unusual activities to the extreme, even if it’s likely bad things will happen
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FOUND THIS VERY INTERESTING
If you have three or more of the mania symptoms below most of the day — nearly every day — for one week or longer, you may be having a manic episode of bipolar disorder:
Excessive happiness, hopefulness, and excitement
Sudden changes from being joyful to being irritable, angry, and hostile
Restlessness, increased energy, and less need for sleep
Rapid talk, talkativeness
Distractibility
Racing thoughts
High sex drive
Tendency to make grand and unattainable plans
Tendency to show poor judgment, such as deciding to quit a job
Inflated self-esteem or grandiosity — unrealistic beliefs in one’s ability, intelligence, and powers; may be delusional
Increased reckless behaviors (such as lavish spending sprees, impulsive sexual indiscretions, abuse of alcohol or drugs, or ill-advised business decisions)
Some people with bipolar disorder become psychotic, hearing things that aren’t there.
They may hold onto false beliefs, and cannot be swayed from them. In some instances, they see themselves as having superhuman skills and powers — even consider themselves to be god-like.
Reviewed by the doctors at The Cleveland Clinic Department of Psychiatry and Psychology.
Retired Attorney John said,in December 9th, 2008 at 3:55 am Bi-polar seems to be the new disease to replace the insanity plea in our courts.
Insanity pleas have worn so thin, we now have attorney’s like Mr. Baez coming up with new names like bi-polar disease to get murderers back on the street. Ms. Anthony suffers from the common me, my and I disease, PERIOD.
Bi-polar disorder is neither a reason nor an excuse to get away with murdering your child, and not contacting the authorities for 31 days.
I for one would like to see you to proceed with this defense Mr. Baez, because it assures me Ms. Anthony will spend the rest of her life in jail without the possibility of parole.
RETIRED ATTORNEY SAID:
Retired Attorney John said,in December 9th, 2008 at 3:55 am Bi-polar seems to be the new disease to replace the insanity plea in our courts.
Insanity pleas have worn so thin, we now have attorney’s like Mr. Baez coming up with new names like bi-polar disease to get murderers back on the street. Ms. Anthony suffers from the common me, my and I disease, PERIOD.
Bi-polar disorder is neither a reason nor an excuse to get away with murdering your child, and not contacting the authorities for 31 days.
I for one would like to see you to proceed with this defense Mr. Baez, because it assures me Ms. Anthony will spend the rest of her life in jail without the possibility of parole.
anna said,in December 9th, 2008 at 11:47 am if m was b-polar with c being a nurse she should have noticed,
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I’m sure we all agree that there is something mentally wrong with cindy as well…
PIGS DON’T KNOW THAT PIGS STINK….oink oink
Anna…Lemon Head was on NG last night and he was talking about or should I say suggesting she has bi-polar
They may hold onto false beliefs, and cannot be swayed from them. In some instances, they see themselves as having superhuman skills and powers — even consider themselves to be god-like.
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Especially this one!
I agree she will get life, but as her attorney is Baez obligated to try to get her a lesser sentence by generating sympathy, creating reasonable doubt, even if it’s obvious the jury will not buy it.
Retired Attorney,
I have a question. I just read where the governor from Illinois had “Court ordered” wire tapping. The wire tapping was used catch him committing a crime. Do you know if this can or has been used in this case? Can this be done without consent?
I would assume that the suspected party would not know this is happening. I was hoping when M was out on bond, that her phones would be “bugged”. If wire tapping was used, we might now know what the State refers to as “more” evidence! Can you fill me in on this? Thanks!
Dan
Bi polars can also go without sleep for days in their manic phase. They will do excessive addictive behaviors.
raj@12:09 i hope your right, no chance of parole!
I posted this under an earlier day because I am getting lost in the maze of Caylee articles. Sorry -
RAJ - well said. Using a serious personality disorder to excuse murder is like using a medical condition like hypothyroidism or binge eating as an excuse. Already been done (didn’t that diet doctor’s killer use the one and the Twinkie defense revolve around the latter?). I guess some defense attorneys have to get creative when they can’t think of a good reason why their client is guilty.
Perhaps this will go down in legal circles as the “The Stripper Pole Defense” and L1 students everyone can study how will partying, promiscuity, lying and general pychopathic behavior can be manipulated and presented to the jury as something other than what it really is. Should be interesting.
novalis@12:23 stripping pole defence lmao
val…and we know she was up all hours of the night at times…texting…and up early going at it again….so whatever, so she’s a possible BP…she should have seeked help…that in my opinion is no reason for living the messed up life she did and murdering her child. I for one would not feel sorry for her lack of brain function if I were a juror.
She or ANY member of the family should have seeked medical attention for this brat! They didn’t and this is the outcome. They could have prevented it.
I don’t feel this defense will create ANY kind of sympathy.
It’s not like she lived alone and didn’t know to go to the doc. Her whole family enabled her bad decisions and lies instead of dealing with it and now a child is dead.
NOPE. NO SYMPATHY HERE!
no sympathy here either only for little caylee who paid the ultimate price for c&g &m’s lack of parenting!
There are similarities in sociopathy and bi polar and she could be a combination of the two. Mental disorders are often not clearcut. It still should not impact the outcome of the trial if she knew right from wrong.
Having a bi-polar disorder is not a constant in the indiviual who suffers from this disease. Her behavior during the 31 days Caylee Marie was missing shows a woman who did not cause her friends or family to question any strange behavior such as her exhibiting any symtoms of a bi polar disorder. Please take note of the testimony given by all Ms. Anthony’s friends, and family as to her demeanor during this time frame.
also hiding out for 31 days tells me she knew she did wrong, if not then why hide and lie?
but if she was in a mostly constant state of mania, how would her family or friends see any different behaviour? She goes along acting the same as she usually does!
They may hold onto false beliefs, and cannot be swayed from them. In some instances, they see themselves as having superhuman skills and powers — even consider themselves to be god-like.
AS PER WHAT M’S NORMAL STATE IS!
Anna, the key word is “hiding” in your post.
*oink oink*!!!
at the same time, covering up a murder! 31 days old before she got caught
Bi-polar is a crock…
And scheming up a murder 31 days b4 the act..
I mean more than 30 days..like 60 days b4 she did it.
Keep in mind Ms. Anthony was evaluated for mental disorders, and the finding were negative.
hiding is knowing right from wrong…so this defense is not going to fly…but will bozo try to get jury to believe that M believes the whole script thingy in respect to the 31 days..???
Many famous creative people like actors are bi-polar because they can extend themselves so much in the manic phase. In the depressed phase they withdraw so the public isn’t as aware of that side. M’s parents may be aware of the depressed phase, but her “friends” would not. She doesn’t seem to have close friends, so I would think that people knew something was weird about her.
RT..was she evaluated for BP specifically? Then how can Bozo even try to play that card ( LEmon suggested he might)
Oh yah they found nothng is that true or is that cus she said they told her there wus nothng wrong with her? I have never been clear on that..
Her mom stated she didnt have many friends in H.S….
hey pickly bump…she has even less now..
RAJ - very true. And even if her friends did not notice her behavior as exceptionally manic (some of them may not have known her long enough to see another side to her personality - some manic episodes can go on for months) - the various mental health professionals and psychologists are the ones that will ultimately weigh in. We have not heard their expert testimony yet but there will be testimony from both sides as to their educated opinions.
I’m sure the many, many people who deal with personality disorders in a postive way and become productive, upstanding citizens will in no way accept that having a challenging condition is an excuse for what this woman did to her child. Physical and mental challenges are simply not covered under an insanity defense and don’t generally hold a lot of weight as extenuating circumstances other than to eliminate a death sentence.
With what we have seen of Cindy’s behavior I have a feeling a jury would have been more sympathetic to one of Cindy’s children getting rid of her than they would have the Menendez brothers. She is a piece of work.
Novalis: I haven’t heard any psychologists being added to the witness list?
im so tired of hearing we wil go oh now i see or we will hear the full story, bottom line if caylee was alive there would have been no lies, the whole story would have all ready been told, i think c put the idea in to m head of ‘protecting’ the whole family ‘hero m’ saved them all what a bunch of bs!
Are people with bi-polar considered dangerous?
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During the manic phase of bipolar disorder behavior can become reckless. This may increase the risk of danger for both the patient and those who may be in their charge, such as children. Additionally, in rare cases patients experiencing mania may become psychotic, hearing voices or seeing things, which may in turn incite a violent reaction. During an episode patients should be discouraged from driving or operating any machinery. If a friend or family member suffers from bipolar disorder, contact their doctor as soon as an episode becomes apparent. Sometimes early treatment can help reduce the incidence of dangerous behaviors.
Its non sense..she just wanted to be out from under the responsibilities of being a mother…its all an excuse…an out…thats all..she wuntd other things in life then to have to worry about that child.
i rember hearing m didnt have many friends to, c trys to play m was the mother of the group always taking care of friends, i only see that happining if they were male,
maybe bb is better then we give him credit for..maybe this is just the case he has been praying for..he gets one criminal murderer off of death row by sayng she is bi-polar mental biscuit..all the child killng rape-o criminal ppl are gunna be calling him…
c is a liar…nothng that she says has been true..so we are supposed to believe that Caylee has flown from FL..to Cali and is now setting up residence there..and they just so happened to get invited to see there good ol pal Larry King..its all a pile of bovine!!!
so did bb get paid for his apperance on today show??? im sure he is gonna want some sort of fee, i know publicity is great but it doesnt pay the bills? and future profits are just that in the future
pic~you forgot caylee now has blond hair to!
He shuld get alot of business from this.
Xcuse me Attorney…so do you think that killr has told bb the truth..and they are like working together on this…and her folks are just out of the…loop?
Caylee has blonde hair now?? DOes micheal jackson have her???
never know with these ants
Im sure FLorida is full of crime and im sure there are alot of wealthy criminals in FLorida…that need lawyers everyday…maybe bb knows the $$cheese$$ he is missing out on!!
cant rember the site i was on and c&bb apeared on meridith and c stated caylee had blond hair and was headed up near mountains, i know its big foot who has taken her!
I agree Pickles, she just wanted to get the “problem” out of her life. Why did her brain process this wish as murder? A normal brain wouldn’t consider it. I’ve seen kids who, when they want something, they just take it with no sense of consequences or concern that they are stealing from someone. They don’t process normal feelings of guilt, but they know it’s wrong and don’t want to get caught. This is more sociopath than bipolar IMO.
C`A - both sides can continue to add witnesses up to and even within the trial process I believe - (RAJ would be your expert there). If the defense is contemplating using a mental condition as an extenuating fact, I would think they would include them. From the the way it looks at this point, the defense is primarily attacking the veracity of the forensic evidence.
There is a continuum for all mental disorders and degrees to which people suffer. The description above may be one at the severe end. Many people may suffer to a lesser degree and can manage the symptoms with the many medications available.
Who knows? It it comes to admitting Caylee did this, maybe the defense will skip a medical condition and go for PTSD as a result of the Cindy the Strangler incident. They will probably use anything that has worked recently or is popular. I would think they would only go there if they lose on the forensics, but RAJ is our best bet for talking about that strategy.
The Bigfoot defense sounds reasonable to me Anna. They haven’t examined demonic possession yet and exorcism would be worth a try.
bipolar shows big highs and low lows i havent seen any of this in any vidieos, but then im not a pro who would notice this stuff, but i can tell a liar, and m&c are def that!
Val…word up!! I agree she is no mental case..okay she is the run of the mill phyco hose beast…she aint no different then any girl from girls gone wild…shes a dime a dozen..jah kno..I mean she culda had a nice life…cramming things down her throat..lookng pretty for the camera..alls she had to do wus give Caylee to her mothr…thats it..sounds like some of her friends from HS had childrn..she culda given Caylee to one of them…shes a lop!!!
does bigfoot have blond or brn hair is it straightend?;)
I just wunt to kno if Attorney thinks that killr has told bb the truth and he is working from that…if so are they not telling c and g..the truth…or do you think they wuld tell c and g??
is dr lee still on this case?? havent heard from him in awhile?
It wusnt big foot it wus her bad pimp!!!
I feel she has alot of the symptoms of bi-polar! Being bi-polar would give her the ability to create such wild scenarios as to what happened as well as being able to cope.
Remember how she goes from 0 to bitch in 2 seconds flat on the phone from jail to christina the day she wanted tony’s number?
Same with her phone calls from jail to cindy and the comments about her cameo appearances etc..
****Sudden changes from being joyful to being irritable, angry, and hostile****
****High sex drive ******** ALL THE MEN
****Tendency to make grand and unattainable plans***HER TRIP TO PR*********
***More self-confident than usual***her daughter is missing and she is in and out of jail and possibly facing a murder charge….remember the way she swang those hips and tied that shirt and high fived***
*****Tendency to show poor judgment***
THIS ONE IS SELF EXPLANATORY
*****Inflated self-esteem or grandiosity — unrealistic beliefs in one’s ability, intelligence, and powers; may be delusional
SAME AS ABOVE
****Increased reckless behaviors (such as lavish spending sprees, impulsive sexual indiscretions, abuse of alcohol or drugs, or ill-advised business decisions)*****
Her overall lifestyle…stealing and spending others money…her sexual indiscretion, the drugs and the alcohol abuse….and the possibility of her consideration to be a paid hooker.******
*****Risky or unusual activities to the extreme, even if it’s likely bad things will happen *****
LIKE THE DEATH OF YOUR DAUGHTER!
and how was he paid im sure he didnt just voulenteer!
Val - and let’s not leave out space aliens.
If this case is building reasonable doubt I hope they can come up with a more reasonable scenario for doubt than they have suggested so far. Their alternative scenarios are just comical and absurd.
I don’t think they would tell g and c NO…but I also don’t think they have to!
anyone wact steve wilkos?? they have a woman on here who is admitting to killing a child with alchol&drugs and wants forgiveness, hmmm…cant they still prosecute for murder?
I was surprise to hear that Lemon in a former member on the BB team now. I don’t get it. I thought he was going to be in trial with the team of defense lawyer? Is this normal to have different lawyers appear at different times in a case?
Plus, Jan is right! I did not hear or see any emotions from M in this new videos. Not one. However I did hear guilt in her voice and in her body language. I really heard it when George talked about being a family, It was obvious to me that her emtions came out when he spoke about HER being a family member.
Plus, that time when Cindy was asking about the welfare of Caylee and if M still had a gut feeling if Caylee was alright. When M answered Cindy, Cindy wanted M to look directly into the camera, and that is when I saw M guilt pour out. It was like looking at a child who finally admitted there guilt with tears not words.
Could this case be any less obvious to the facts?
And Todays show with BB on was a joke too.
BB states that we have only heard a portion of the true story. Really, Cause in my opinion the truth has yet to be told.
BB said that M has told him to tell the nation ” I am innocent” Yeah, so is Scott Peterson.
PICKLES SAYS: alls she had to do wus give Caylee to her mothr…*****Risky or unusual activities to the extreme, even if it’s likely bad things will happen would explain how she would be emotionally able to sedate her child ( taking things to extreme) Giving baby to cindy would surely take any attention away from maggot…that’ not what she wanted…she took her need for her parents to be all to herself to the extreme and now her daughter is dead!
Alien abduction is their most logical route, Novalis, no question. At least they would have lots of people to corroborate that it happens. I’d like to know if she ever held down a job, and why she was fired. Why wasn’t she more functional at 22, and how did they explain a “normal” kid dropping out of HS? This isn’t a normal functioning history.
if she had given caylee to c it would have only brought more jelousy in m mind the only way was to get rid of her for good, so unimaginable, but imo true
Yah she is a center of attention kind of gal..Im just not so easy to pass it off on a mental instability…..Alls I see is a self centerd..vein..selfish woman…I just…yah kno..its just…hey maybe thru this tho we will find out where Caylees body is..I mean if she claims crazy…maybe then she will lead them to the remains…hey that wuld b cool!!!
pic~thats what im waiting for to find her little body ill probably cry for days, even tho i know the truth now!
I just…I see that she has alot of characteristics of bi-polar…I just think that her and bb sat down with a phycology disorder index and pickd the one she wus most similar too and are rolling with that…now…first it wus ppd…now its bi-polar…
Yah they need to find her and put her to rest!!!
Pickles….I am not suggesting AT ALL to pass the buck on her reponsibility…She is a selfish self centered brat…I am simply saying she has alot of what phsyciatrists say are symptoms of BP. Does not negate her decisions to carry on through life as she did and do what she ulitimalty did to her child.
She should of seen a doctor a long time ago! They all dropped the ball on poor caylee! How could the parents NOT have seen how reckless she was, how could they not have wanted to see her get some kind of help! How could they have let this happen.
That is no way takes away her responsibility as she knows right from wrong!
I think that after she is sentenced to the stoney lonesome..she will make a escape attempt..I betchoo right now 20$$ Dollahs…at least tries to escape…or pulls it off…she be reading a spanish english dictionary..she gunng to to the joint…boink a gaurd and escape….!!!
I didn’t buy the ppd at all…and yes they are reaching, and even if she does have something chemically wrong…which in reality, come on…she is NOT right…there is more to her behaviour then selfishness….what NORMAL person could carry on the way she has for this long…. but it won’t change her accountability!
Yah they did let her get out of control..dats for sur..!! My momma wus a disciplinarian…and I love and adore my kids..I think c wus a ignorer..of her kids…when they were small and growing up..out of sight out of mind..as long as she culd hear them…
Yupp she is indeed a piece of work…I cant stand her….I still wunna pluck out her hair one by one and look for the death band..
I am anxiously waitng the trial..so much info we dont kno…
One little hair..C~A one little hair…thats all that fell from that childs head..just one…its amazing…and forensics these days are alot better then bb or the ants would have us believe!!
Attorney….do you think killr told bb the truth…and if so..do you think they told c and g..sorry to keep askng but I have always wonderd bout that..
Val - when it comes to normal functioning I imagine the symbiotic Casey-Cindy connection will be a lot like the chicken-or-the-egg conundrum.
Sometimes I think of Casey and the fire and Cindy as the gasoline. What a lethal combination!
Hey Krause if you read today….I hope your having a good day!!!
Pickles - that is a good idea. I’m sure she thinks she could pull off an escape. And where better to go to than a Latino country to stick it to the ever bigoted Cindy?
Or maybe it’s just an attempt to decode all those things “Zani” said to her sister in Spanish - the “clues” as to where they took little Caylee when they absconded with her from Jay Blanchard Park. Rehearsing for the big day in court.
Or maybe she is just looking to whisper little nothings into Baez’ ear.
Just don’t ever let me hear she is getting her law degree behind bars. I could contemplate bribing a guard to accidentally throw her into general population.
They are two peas in a pod..thats for sure I mean..but they are soo different in contrast..cus killr is so cool and composed and c is well we have all seen how c is..
Oh yah she has to kno what the words mean that she is gunna claim Zanieda said to her in espanol…she es muy estupido..
I just can see her seducing a gaurd and trying to escape..I do have a wild imagination..but it seems plausible…killr likes hispanics…almost all of her friends were spanish…FLorida is a meting pot of culture tho!!
I just watched the video of Lee and Casey. I noticed that when Casey is talking with Lee its almost like she is a giggling teenager. It seems almost like she is flirting with her brother. She laughed a little when talking with George and Cindy but not near as much. I will think something has gone on between them in the past.
yea i fixed our tree, was all sad i turned it on ln and the top was burnt out so took lots of lights off found the burnt one now it all lights up pretty again YEA!!!
She culd get whutevr degree they have schooling for in the pen…they get edumacated in there…them lifers especially they go to school, go to the gym,go to church, work a job…prison isnt la la sunshine land I assure you all them woman have I am sure seen Caylees face on the tv and they are well aware of what killr looks like…and they im sure are going to have the welcome wagon there for her…its gunna be hard…and crappy but after 7 or more years she’ll dig it…im sure…unless she gains a insane amount of weight..but they got the weights for that…I hate her!!!
DisgustedinTExas…blehh…puke…I mean theres this town in ORegon..called Powers and most the ppl there are related…and they all have strange strange looking faces…ehh…
I have never really seen them two togethr…I know its seems like killr has to be the center of male attention…
Congradulations Anna..our tree is up also..but its to much tempatation for my girl so all the bulbs are up high..the tree looks like its wearing a half shirt!!
pic that one little hair may be all the ants left after they got done with the car heck c washed the pants who knows how much cleaning she really did do there might of been more that one?
pic~ funny when g/son comes over he just stares then walks around points and says ooh, sooner or later he will be all in the tree especiall cince the candy canes are there now
Disgusted - we know Casey flirts with anything in pants. I have not seen her with females (other than Cindy) - perhaps she is as manipulative with them as well. I’m sure Amy may have thought she was charming.
It might all be a part of her general way of using whatever manipulative technique works the best on the gender of her audience.
There is also a term being used in popular psychology circles called “emotional incest” and can occur when either parent maintains an inappropriate emotional intimacy. There are several articles you can google and a book that discusses this type of abuse. It sounds a lot to me like Cindy’s style of parenting and can have similar behavioral affects on children as sexual abuse.
It may be useless to speculate what actually happened in that household but one thing is fairly certain - they all have pretty obvious dysfunctional issues!
Oh yah children cant resist a tree..C~A are you putting up a tree yet this year?? Or no cus of the move???
been awhile cince i spent all day on pc!
c~a you should at least have a small one, one x i found this puny tree about 6in laid it in driveway and got broinlaw to come out saying i needed help getting the tree in the back of elcamino, funny:)
A Charlie Brown Christmas tree!! Love it
I dunno guys…we might be moving Jan 1…but we will do something….my dad usually brings us a real tree…so prob. put it up and leave it when we move….hahahah up but naked….there ya go! Merry flockin ho ho
a tree for the kids for sure, and I love a real tree…all dressed to the nines and a clean house and a bird in the oven… but if it were up to me this year with the move I’d pass!….just get out some rum and egg nog on xmas eve….
rum &eggnog yumm>>>>> can i have some????
id love a real tree but no$$$ for it so we have what we have as long as daughter is happy with it im fine
as long as she doesnt wake me up at 3am christmas morning, she gets so excited, theres a gift for g/d under tree now she doesnt know what it is is driving her crazy!!!! 
Joooh gotta house??? You move Jan 1st???
Hey ill brb!!
Nappie time!!!
gotta shower, stinky me bbas
I can’t stand this deceitful, lying family. Makes me sick to know that Casey won’t tell what she did and only thinking about herself. George and Cindy are only pulled in by their daughter’s lying and deceitful ways. You are right, that Caylee is watching from heaven.
Good afternoon all!
Okay, I can’t keep up, so I’m just going to ask my question. Sorry if it was asked before.
Doesn’t Casey have to be evaluated again to “prove” the Bi-Polar Disorder before he can use it in court?
Casey was already evaluated and she passed with flying colors. So I’m kinda questioning if Bozo can just go into court and say “my client is Bi-Polar”. I mean, as a juror I want proof and in a case like this, I want proof from more than one source. And even then, it still doesn’t excuse her for murdering her daughter.
Another thing, Don’t they have to have a “LOW” to be Bi-Polar? I haven’t seen or heard Casey be depressed.
This is what I found about Bi-Polar:
Recognizing Bipolar Disorder
Bipolar disorder, sometimes called manic depression, can be hard to detect because the symptoms can be similar to other mood disorders. Some people have the condition for 10 years or more before a healthcare provider diagnoses it.
The reason for this might have to do with the symptoms. When people are feeling manic or hypomanic, they are full of energy. They usually feel good. They feel “high on life” and don’t always seek help.
On the other hand, people are more likely to seek help when they fall into depression. When people feel depressed, they are likely to describe only depression symptoms to their healthcare provider. They may not mention the times when they are feeling “high on life,” since depression is what they are feeling at the time. Therefore, it’s common for a person to be incorrectly diagnosed with major depression instead of bipolar disorder.
In fact, nearly half of all patients who have bipolar disorder, sometimes called manic depression, will first be diagnosed with major depression. That’s why it’s important for people to say how they’ve been feeling weeks and even months before the day they talk to their healthcare provider in order to make it easier for the right diagnosis.
Many of the signs and symptoms of bipolar disorder can also be associated with other illnesses, such as anxiety disorders and schizophrenia. This can make it even harder for a healthcare provider to make a correct diagnosis.
I also find it strange that Casey would say she’d rather be in jail. If she feels that way, then plea guilty and tell everyone where Caylee’s body is.
RAJ
Thanks for sharing your views with us. Everyday I look forward to seeing you on the blog and reading your comments. I have a question which I’m not sure that you will want to answer but please know that I will respect you your decision.
How far can a defense attorney s-t-r-e-t-c-h the truth?
Does a defense attorney have to put together what their client is telling them or can he coach his client to another, what he feels is a, more believable story? I’ve always wondered just how far an attorney can go.
Also, if the defense attorney feels that the only salvation for his client is to take a stab at a mental disorder defense and in this case Casey refuses to admit to any mental or personality disorder then where do they go from there?
I realize that her attorney would advise her that any other defense would most likely fail, but would her attorney go down another path, per her request?
regarding this bi-polar issue, Raj is correct…we should keep in mind that she was and is being evaluated psychiatrically in prison. I thought it was telling in one of the jailhouse tapes shown last night on NG that her mother asked her if she is seeing a psychiatrist, M said YES. C asked her if she was being truthful with the therapist and M said no. I believe that M thinks her lies are being believed and that will be her downfall and subsequently the downfall of the Baez defense.
I was also quite disgusted with M trying valiantly to implicate Jesse. I think that M knows that Jesse knows her much better than most people and therefore he is quite a threat to her.
As far as I know, she has not been diagnosed with any Mental Health disorder. Even if she is diagnosed, it will NOT be an acceptable defense.
In my opinion the only way she will be free is under the condition of reasonable doubt.
Bi-Polar is not insanity and insanity does not fly in murder cases.
To be honest, all this BS from Bozo just goes to show, even with his 3 witnesses, He knows he’s still going to lose. And the fact that the States witness list is getting bigger, shows they have an extremely strong case. IMO.
IMO the State has a reasonable case (I would not say strong, unless they find the body) but I do believe they will win and the defense probably knows this.
BB is getting a lot of exposure from the public and M does have the right to counsel even if counsel knows he can’t win.
I use to have a indoor Christmas tree ..a miniture one it wus soo qute id dawl it all up fur Christmas
I can’t tell you how much I enjoy reading all your comments. This blog has become absolutely the BEST!
I’m knee deep in making Christmas cards and wreaths for my family and friends and I thought I could stay out of here for a few days but periodically there’s a strong feeling that pulls me to my computer to read your comments.
Does anyone remember who first came up with the term “firefly?” Every time I hear that word it lights me up! So, to whoever brought it to this site… KUDOS!
Great job everyone!
Hello Tendermothr..I too can not stand the ants..they are welp…uhhh
I think Mytwocents came up with Firefly…Therapist…Kudos to j000ooh too!!!
Sharebear….PAW69…Saluki..sapponin..and Therapist…hows it goin??
Tendermothr killr (Casey) is always only thinkng of herself..numero uno…!!
Very good here, Thank you
I can’t stay long, but I pop in from time to time to see if there is any news.
Therapist just can stay away….yah we got it..!!
NO news…not really cept the bi-polar disordr discussion…
I keep hoping for news of some remains (I usually say body as I hate the thought of remains) but I have finally accepted that reality, I guess.
Hey Pickles… keep on blogging because I will be back to read more later!
paw good points on bipolar i would think thed have to reevl, and i think m saying better off in jail was the media frenzy or the immagined kidnapers only mo
Hi, All! For once my timing is spot on! I don’t think I came up with firefly. I think someone else mentioned it first. All I did was agree that it was a great term and describe it - “flying around out there and occasionally coming in to light up our room!” So once again “combined efforts” turned out the best results!
Another good thing about our blog!
share i pray enight for thoes remains, ive even had a few dreams, caylee is realy a angel!
Pickly - Where did the bi-polar conversation start? Was there a report or something that it may be one of BB’s strategies or was this a blog theory?
i also cant wait for sean krause interview to come out to waiting patiently
Yes, anna she is an angel and she resembles my daughter (who is now 28). She caught my eye one night on the news and I just can’t stop following this case.
Mytwocents..I think it came from NG last night somone on there mentiond killr being bi-polar
Speaking of Sean Krause….joo00h better be havng a good day!!!
Hey how did bi-polar come up…wus it on NG last nite..Im pretty sur thats whut wus said earlier in blog!!
Anyways in pretty sure it came from NG..
“I took my last cell phone picture as the woman [accompanying the little girl] tried to cover her head with her arm to hide from me taking her picture,” Solomita said
Ok so the lady who took the mall pics got a photo of the lady that the child in question wus with tryng to cover the child up..so then why havent they releasd the photo of the lady the child in question wus with…thats just stupid…cmon now…the mall sightings is a set up..
Its bs..all of it..killr needs to fess up..I doubt she ever will but maybe if they go for the bi-polar claim then maybe she will cough up Caylees bones…
Did yah’ll take the Body Farm tour??
I would cover up my child too; if I thought some stranger was photographing him/her.
The whole thing is ridiculous and I am sure if the child actually looked like caylee in the front the person would have taken a front shot. I agree, it is bogus.
Wow, tornadoes in December. Sorry, that was off the topic lol.
Hiya Bumpy.
Webslueths wont let me become a member?? I wunder why…THey dunt like Pickles..
I am re-posting this comment from Retired Attorney John. It originally appeared at 3:55 am on the PREVIOUS article. So to spare folks from going back to that AND because I think it bears repeating, here it is. (RAJ, I hope I am not being too pushy in reprinting this and I sure do hope I’m not breaking any libel/copyright laws! And I hope I’ve provided the appropriate credits! If I have overstepped please let me know!)
Retired Attorney John said,in December 9th, 2008 at 3:55 am (Under previous BNN Caylee article)
“Bi-polar seems to be the new disease to replace the insanity plea in our courts.
Insanity pleas have worn so thin, we now have attorney’s like Mr. Baez coming up with new names like bi-polar disease to get murderers back on the street. Ms. Anthony suffers from the common me, my and I disease, PERIOD.
Bi-polar disorder is neither a reason nor an excuse to get away with murdering your child, and not contacting the authorities for 31 days.
I for one would like to see you to proceed with this defense Mr. Baez, because it assures me Ms. Anthony will spend the rest of her life in jail without the possibility of parole.”
Well I cant imagine why they wuldnt wunt little ol me to be a member..I just wuntd to read bout lee ant is all..golly gee whizz they bannd both muh email accounts…
Here are the signs and symptoms of Bi-Polar. From what I have read, She isn’t Bi-Polar due to the fact she doesn’t have the “low” side of it. The high side, yes, but that could be a whole other disease, like Nemphomaniac (spelling).
Signs and Symptoms
The signs and symptoms of bipolar disorder can be different in each person.
Symptoms of depression include:
* Feeling sad or blue, or “down in the dumps”
* Loss of interest in things the person used to enjoy, including sex
* Feeling worthless, hopeless, or guilty
* Sleeping too little or too much
* Changes in weight or appetite
* Feeling tired or having little or no energy
* Feeling restless
* Problems concentrating or making decisions
* Thoughts of death or suicide
One person describes depression this way:
“I doubt completely my ability to do anything well. It seems as though my mind has slowed down and burned out to the point of being virtually useless. [I am] haunt[ed]…with the total, the desperate hopelessness of it all…Others say, ‘It’s only temporary, it will pass, you will get over it.’ But of course they haven’t any idea of how I feel, although they are certain they do. If I can’t feel, move, think, or care, then what on earth is the point?”
Symptoms of mania include:
* Increased energy level
* Less need for sleep
* Racing thoughts or mind jumps around
* Easily distracted
* More talkative than usual or feeling pressure to keep talking
* More self-confident than usual
* Focused on getting things done, but often completing little
* Risky or unusual activities to the extreme, even if it’s likely bad things will happen
One person describes mania this way:
“The fast ideas become too fast and there are far too many…overwhelming confusion replaces clarity… Your friends become frightened…everything is now against the grain…you are irritable, angry, frightened, uncontrollable, and trapped.”
Hypomania is a milder form of mania that has similar but less severe symptoms.
If that child at the mall really lookd like Caylee somone wulda walkd up and said somthng more..I mean for petes sakes.
http://thedailybs.com/news/?p=2146
It’s Nymphomaniac by the way. Found the right spelling.
I dunt kno I wunt to hear a phycologists determination on her…
I don’t believe that Cindy and George truly believe Caylee is alive. If you watch the video where Cindy is sitting back so she can watch Casey as she talks, you can tell she’s thinking that Casey is lying. George knew from the beginning but Cindy got him to shut up and she tells him what to say now. I believe they know and are trying to save Casey now because they believe they are somehow at fault. I think the more they talk the less believable they are. Funny how these sightings go directly to the Anthony’s and not the police, or “Kidfinders” who never found anybody. Shame on them for collecting money to find Caylee too.
**My guess is they are trying to reach out to potential jurors in the hopes of getting a few of them to believe Caylee is alive. Casey was trying to set up others to blame — so I’m curious what her “whole story” is going to be at trial, as Jose Baez told Matt Lauer. I BET she doesn’t take the stand though and their tactic will be to attack the evidence and the police.
It’s obvious to me in the videos that they are playing to the camera and that Casey only cries when she says she wants to go home. She was trying to manipulate her parents into coming up with bail money. She would add a few words about wanting to find Caylee because she had to but you could tell it was bull. And that ridiculous nonsense about not being able to talk on tape,needing to get out and tell them in person for fear of the baby’s safety, yet she turns around and gives a description of the baby sitter and her car??? How does that make sense?
All is well Pickles….I am trying to read all the latest blogs all over the net. i have just reread all the emails between Cindy and her brother from early June, before any of this happened. This was a pot waiting to boil over for quite a while. There is a discussion about the pregnancy issue with M when she showed up at the wedding in a tight fitting outfit. She was sp obviously pregnant that her bellybutton stuck out and all the guests were asking who the pregnant girl was. C of course maintained that M was just gaining weight. It seems that this was not the first pregnancy for M. I would like to find out more about this.
I thought that too maybe this wusnt her first pregnancy… ..
Okay I found a good definition for Nymphomaniac. She definently fit’s the criteria.
nymphomaniac
nym·pho·ma·ni·ac [ nìmfə máynee àk ] (plural nym·pho·ma·ni·acs)
noun
Definition:
1. woman supposed to have sexual compulsion: a woman supposed to have a compulsive desire to have sex with many different men
2. offensive term: an offensive term for a woman regarded as being extremely active sexually ( informal )
Alls I know is shes a murderer…
7 mos prego is gettng big tho even for yur first one…
Maybe Bozo can go for the Nymphomaniac rather than Bi-Polar……..
I mean killr wusnt a huge person…shes 5″2 maybe a buck twenty..
Maybe bb can shut the heck up and let her rott away in prison forever.
the buck twenty is pushing it. lol.
Yah she wus real thin…she prided herself in her thinness..did yah see the pic of her in the bikini in the mirror of just her torso…she is very vein..very concieted..lots of pride in herself..and that is going to be her achilles heal..is her self absorbtion…
PAW69..do jooh live on base???
Bumpy, No, we live off base.
Sweet..deal!!! Yah is that better???
It’s alot better because we get to choose where we live.
If I want a 10 bedroom home, I can get it. On post they go by how many people are in the family, like with us, we would only get a 3 bedroom and we can’t ask for a 4 bedroom. We like extra room. Even though we are still in a 3 bedroom, it’s still a decent place, quiet neighborhood.
My sister is in the Coast Gaurd…I call her a puddle pirate..anyways and she always lives in housing provided by the CG…so its cheaper but they say where she lives..so I wuld rather live off base too…more freedom..
Us too..3bed quiet..nice
On post living, they take your BAH. Our BAH is $925. We pay $450 for rent. We only have 3 bills. So it’s basically extra money in the pocket.
Crap, BBIAB, I forgot to do something.
Okalie dokalie
mytwocents - Last night on Nancy Grace Terrence Lemanon, the former member of Casey’s defense team, whose presence is now superfluous since the state has formally dropped seeking the death penalty, was the one to mention bi-polar as a possible factor in the case as it continues. He may have done so because if he or his team has logged on line lately, the blogging world has been laughing their collective butts off in reference to his “potential PPD” reasoning. He may have felt the need to upgrade to something that might be a tad more defensible as an alleged mental condition.
RAJ’s excellent comment was a response to Lemanon’s answers to Ms. Grace. Now that this attorney is no longer a necessary or integral part of the defense team he can cut his losses, cash his little check and run. I’m sure he has represented people equally as scummy, but probably not as over-the-top kitsch as this media-hungry group.
Wow Novalis that wus remarkable…well said..
Thank you pickles. Lemanon looked like a beady-eyed pit bull during that interview - I had only been able to find one picture of him previously and I can see why he should not be anxious to appear in public. Like the sort of legal equivalent of a biker bar bouncer.
He also rather reminds me of the troll that lives under a bridge and collects tolls that the townsfolk tell their children about to make them behave.
you guys hear tim miller is in the hospital for the last 2 days having tests run for chestpains and shortness of breath
pray for him so he gets well, makes me want to cry!
How many people think maybe the reason the Ant’s are covering up, is because of incest.
Is Lee Caylee’s father???? Possible, ..it would explain some of their behavior…?
saulki@3:48 where did you read that, not the first prg for m, how did she manage that after all she didnt have sex
lemon is a pit bull with glasses..yikes glad I missed that..
paw~whats bah?
So I live on the West Coast..and I have not seen a pic of this last Caylee sightng…so whuts up..I mean seems as tho it wuld be on the news out here!!!
In an interview, Nejame said he’s come to believe otherwise. “Evidence and certain information would suggest to me that the child is no longer with us, says Nejame
http://www.wptv.com/mostpopular/story/Caylee-Anthony-sighting/5S_qEvFsnUyIx6BoZ5bniw.cspx
Anna I read this on http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155446.pdf
wonder if njames heard more info than we know?? cince he was more involved in this case i really tend to believe him
Thank you, Novalis! Re info on origin of bi-polar defense possibility.
Tex if you come in..I need joooh to email me…
christinastone78@hotmail.com
Pammyliz also!!! And Therapist..please email me at the above!!!
well no wonder squirells were in m car, they(ants) are nuts
boy i feel left out!
Hey you can email too..cmon email me…left out..I wuld never leave joo00h out..now I feel baad…
Squirrels..yah ..she is I mean thats a big stink fur a tiny squirell…
I really love this. I just realized that all the possible defense strategies that I recall at the moment are excuses for WHY SHE DID IT!
I haven’t heard any defense strategy that she did not do or could not have done it! Interesting….. lol!
i was kidding
Anna have you seen my post to you 4:58pm
saluki~ i dont see a 4:58 post anywhere can you see it on your pc?
val, you said, at 1:08 pm “. . . I’d like to know if she ever held down a job, and why she was fired. Why wasn’t she more functional at 22, and how did they explain a “normal” kid dropping out of HS? This isn’t a normal functioning history.”
She did have a job at Universal but was fired for “job abandonment.” In other words she stopped going to work! lol! And she did not exactly drop out of HS. C & G were notified somehow (or maybe M told them) a couple days before graduation that she was 1/4 credit short. C & G met with the counselor and were irate that they had not been notified sooner and I’m sure C tried to bully the person into “making it be okay” but no go. So M did not graduate with her class for a measly 1 /4 credit which obviously she never bothered to make up. Perhaps not getting the 1/4 credit in time was a subtle way on M’s part of dropping out (or pissing off her parents!)
sal~would you repost for me pz
Someone mentioned earlier that today is the day Diane Downs sought parole. So I looked it up. The decision just came in! NO! Hooray!
Here’s the report:
Diane Downs, a mother convicted of shooting her children and killing one of them, has been denied parole after serving nearly 25 years.
Downs answered questions via video link from a California prison for more than two hours today before the Oregon parole board turned her down. It was her first chance at parole.
Her daughter, 7-year-old Cheryl Lynn, was fatally shot on a rural road near Springfield in 1983. Two other children were seriously wounded.
Downs was sentenced to life in prison, plus 55 years. She is now 53.
Downs has told varying stories, including that a bushy-haired stranger shot the children. At the hearing, she produced a book that she claimed points to a conspiracy against her and her family.
Dood my bro wus 1 credit shy of all of his credits..in ORegon they let you walk with your class they just dunt give you yer diploman..but they let my brother slide with one credit shy and gave him his diploma…it wus the most kind hearted gesture…he wus soo happy…
i for 1 would like to know what she did with her x when suppose to be working for 2yrs, how could her parents not know??? they never had to call her at work for something in 2yrs?? ive had to call my daughters work and she doesnt even live with me, the same with her calling my work, i just dont understand all this stuff they(ants) didnt know about thier daughter, it makes no sence!
I think that thats a good decision on the board of paroles behalf…thank God..ORegon dunt mess around tho…
She had her pimp phone..ooh I mean work phone..remember…the one she left on her work desk..with the sim card missing ..thats how c called her at work..the pimp phone..
m2c~ what good news, i was hoping they kept her in she doesnt deserve to be out or even alive for what she put thoes children thru, and still claiming someone else did it, hopefully she will serve the rest of her life!
I just got the creeps reading the last sentence of the report above about Diane Downs not getting parole today. After 25 years she showed the parole board a book that she claims “points to a conspiracy against her and her family.”
My creeps come from suddenly realizing that in 15 20 0r 25 years that’s exactly the kind of thing M will try to pull. Except her mother will have been doing it all during that time until she keels over. I’m sure after reading that C will write and ask Diane which book exactly! LOL! So she can find one to fit M!
Thanks M2C, I can’t believe they didn’t let her do a work/study for that 1/4 credit and that her parents couldn’t make sure she did it. My kid graduated a semester early she had so many credits.
They said NO to releasing her..the ORegon child killr…d downes..dey said NO!!
the prision dd is in is awfull, its so overcrowded and alot of racial stuff, if she has to be living im glad its there! its supposidly the biggest womens prison in the world!
Aha.. I found you guys… I was still posting on the last blog..lol
I was wondering why no one was answering me! DUH
What happened to follow the white rabbit???? (please, for the sake of us
comp iliterates, someone..anyone.. type in new blog site!!! Thanks!!)
Boy, there is a boat load of info about bi-polar that just screams CASEY!!! But then usually with bi-polar, there is also the depression.
I have yet to see any symptons of depression … Have any of you??
Maybe she is depressed, in a backward kind of way..LOL
Defense stradegy…isn’t that what you do when you GUILTY?
Poor Tim
anna, nowadays frequently one doesn’t have to call the place of work - just the person’s cell phone. That’s how no one would ever know exactly where M was -until LE looked in to the pingy ping pings! Hee Hee!
m2c~thats a awful thought 15 or more yrs of hearing c rant about m being mother of the yr ekkkkk….!!!!
lilred…lmao..
Val, well C & G didn’t find out about the 1/4 credit until a few days before graduation. I’m sure M knew it all along! So there wasn’t time for her to make up the 1/4 credit before the grad ceremony. I don’t think the HS could let that slide. I mean look - she hasn’t made it up yet!
so in dd case the bushy haird guy framed her or was it le? couldnt be the fact she coldbloded shot and killed her children? no not that!
anna, I’m awfully afraid that that is exactly what we are in for! Let’s think a minute - what exactly will shut up C? Nothing! As long as she refuses to believe that Caylee is dead there is nothing at all that will sway her.
She can disbelieve science and claim mistakes and conspiracies until the day she dies.
I said the other day that if it was possible to take her Caylee’s perfectly preserved body whe would say, “That’s not her.” I really mean that!
suprised m didnt blame the school for losing her work for that 1/4 credit “mom i really did that work, teacher must have lost my paper honest not my fault”
Most kids go on to some kind of college also. It’s a college frenzy of counselor appts and applications, analyzing grades, taking SAT’s etc. How did she avoid all that? The parents are usually super involved, unless they know there is no hope?
I’ll bet the bushy haired guy is Zenaida’s father! Better email the ants and get their PI team on the trail! LOL
val, good point. Weren’t C and G talking with her about colleges her senior year?? But you know maybe they did and M blew it by not graduating.
or if she does finaly believe in the death it will be a lifetime of blaming someone else poor le if they have to put up with her day in and day out! probably make the whole poliece force quit:)
Lilred said,in December 9th, 2008 at 5:27 pm
I am so sorry…I wus slippng..I will not ever forget the white rabbit again…please forgive me…!!! bread crumbs ppl bread crumbs..!!!
m prob strung them along with all lies they were prob worn out about then so didnt care as much just wanted to get it over with
I laughed at Molly Bear….she kept saying follow the bread crumbs but didn’t leave any…LMAO
You don’t even need a HS diploma to do Community College. It’s a clean slate.
~A said,in December 9th, 2008 at 5:37 pm
That is too funny..cus since I read whut jooh just posted there I am laughng soo hard..oh crikies…
Here in canada you just have to write an equivelancy test…to get into college
Thats funny…oh cripes…
LMAO
WOw….in ORegon..you can get by with a dge..or ged..
Gosh C~A that made me laugh so hard I cried a tear…ahahaha
geez beeen on pc cince 5:00am only left to take kid to and from school, store and shower,my shoulder and arm are gonna hurt tomorrow!
i didnt know you didnt need a diploma for comunity college? wow wonder why?
Hello friends…
I was elated to hear that Diane Downs was denied!! Her own child said it in her own voice.. ‘who shot you’.. she says ‘mom’. You can not get a better “guilty’ verdict than that!!! So sad.. It is apalling(spell check) what some women will do to get/keep a man..
lilred was thet at this hearing or original trial?
poor little souls…thank god there she didn’t get em all! Bet diane wished she did! If only caylee could speak to us!
maybe they should have judge judy hear m’s case she wouldnt put up with m’s bs!
My info is a few years old, but if you are missing HS credits, you make it up at college. You can get an AA degree and/or transfer to a 4 yr.college based on those 2 years grades, so if you have terrible HS grades you can start over. That’s our Calif system, anyway. Also you have a chance at a better 4 yr college transferring out of Community College!
why is strickland not doing the trial?
Yah ORegon prisons are no joke…is she in ORegon..state pen systems??
Anna try again this is from 4:58pm post, this post…. http//www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155446.pdf
Yah ORegon aint messng round..nope they kept her butt..
c~a i dont know i was joking about judge judy because she is mean i wouldnt go on tv with her even if i would win id prob be so imbaresed if she yelled at me
What are florida prisons like? Them nasties gonna whip her hiney or what? Come on let me hear it pickles!
pic~shes in madera ca, ccwf central california womens facility, was transfered there for soome reason
anna….no, Strickland is really not on the trial as judge…I hope she gets a mean son of a bitch!
me to one that will give the max sentance, any one who harms a defensless victom(child or elderly, disabled) deserves the max and they should go to the hardest prison where thier life will be hell!
oimo!
i always hope like the rest of us here and probably millions of peps that the babys body will be found i dont think ive wanted something so badly before, it would make this trial go better for the state, can they reinstate the death penatly if she is found?? an1 know??
on webslueths they have a site you can post letters to the boy who was held hostage for a yr and they will give them to him to show him love and support also i think they are giving him some kind of gift(not sure on last part) but i think thats nice
Anna-
Yep, if they do find a body, they can bring back the death penalty. I read that recently in one of the news articles, but not sure which one…
Not sure what would happen if they found the body AFTER her trial is already over though…anyone know?
About M’s dirty pics…I saw one for a second & got embarrassed to even have it up on my computer, don’t know if there have been others released… Anyway, anyone think they could be still shots from a porn M was in? I have a feeling theres far more “seediness” to M’s lifestyle than we can even imagine. If she was doing porn, or something like escorting/prostitution…or even just porn pics & selling them - that might explain what she was doing during all her unaccounted for work-time…
Among the documents most recently released to the public is Casey’s HS transcript. There is a handwritten note (written by Melich or other LE investigator) which says she did in fact get her diploma, albeit late. Before I saw this, I had also heard that she was one or more credits shy of graduating; however, unless the school and/or OCSO records are wrong I think she did end up with a HS diploma after all.
From handwritten note on Casey’s transcript:
‘Code that shows she *did* get her diploma.’
‘Her guidance counselor said she *did not* graduate on time. She probably went to summer school after her senior year & picked up her diploma.’
The next page is a note from Valencia Comm College indicating that Casey had never applied for admission nor attended courses there.
Not that her HS diploma has any real significance on the case or anything… I just find it sad and annoying that the media, spending countless hours on this story, appears to do less actual research and fact checking than us bloggers and viewers…
But I’d think there’s a decent amount of money to be made in that industry, so why M need to steal from everyone in her life? Okay, scratch my pornstar theory…
audrey, i think m was in to the escort buisness it would explain the late hrs, there is alot we dont know about m, the bigest is where caylee is, if only they could make her talk!
i guess i should go make supper! to bad i dont have a maid
see you all in am have a great night maybe there will be news of our girlin am ~anna
Unfortunately, I don’t think she’ll ever talk. In my opinion, she’s a true sociopath/psychopath. And I waver between thinking her parents have aided her & covered up for her since the beginning/very early on, to wondering if they are truly just simply stupid enough to be fooled by her. I think about this so much I start to second guess myself…
And the bipolar defense is ridiculous! I know a few people - good, kind, wonderful people - who truly do suffer from, and struggle with that disorder…and its an incredible insult to them when lawyers attempt to use it as an excuse/defense for murder!
I think they could very easily get her to talk if they ran that resort she’s in like a real prison… Take away all of the little perks (TV, snacks, etc.) and keep her in isolation for as long as legally possible, with literally zero privacy (clear cell door).
Once she’s convicted and facing decades behind bars, I think she would give up the location pretty quickly (maybe after losing all appeals?) in trade to get some of these perks back. She is a sociopath and a pathological liar, but she’s also a just a spoiled little immature brat. If they use those perks as bargaining chips instead of giving them away to all of the felons, I think Casey and many others would talk.
Good investigating Skippy, I remembered from the Jesse G statement that c had called her a HS dropout with no job and no future. She was right about the future!
Skippy-
I agree that she’s a spoiled brat, who has been enabled & even applauded for her behavior by her crazy family for her entire life. But…I spent 7 hours in the holding cell of a county jail once, (in my reckless youth, haha), and it was one of the most horrifying experiences of my life. To the average person, being trapped in a little cell is almost unbearable. To me, the fact that M has been in jail this long without cracking at all really lends to her sociopathic nature. Maybe denying the little privileges she now receives would help, but I’m not sure. She’s already being denied the things that really “mattered” to her - partying, sex, text messaging - and it hasn’t meant anything yet.
ya I think M would be the perfect candidate for withdrawing all goodies and privelages to get her to speak. If she was actually doing what jail time should be, we might have heard a confession. Whatever happened to bread and water? That’s it. Shower once a week if yer luck? NO hair products no damn slippers, no deoderant no damn turkey dinner for thanksgiving..these jails have indeed turned into a paid for by the state getaway. Hell no orange juice either or cake? What is this shiot?
She’s got it made in there! No little snot head and all the attention in the world…no job, no chores, just lazing around in her lingerie from the commisary waiting for the next in line to have some hot jail sex! Ok, maybe not the last part in county jail but in prison I sure bet it would!
val…no future…bet that is not the only statement that is coming back to haunt the big mouth!
Exactly, if you add up all the negative comments c has made about M that should convict her right there. Then she has the “emotional caring mother” tapes and thinks that will change everything.
guess everyone has fallen off the blog…must be the winter storm we are havin…LOL
I’m watching another fire on the news. No storms here, just wind and 70 degrees today.
where you live val?
We are expecting 20-30 cm by the a.m. plus freezing rain in between…oh sweet, a snow day is in the works!
Gotta walk the dog, my excitement for the day, bbl
California, rain, fires and mudslides
Good points Audrey. If she can go this long without texting and clubbing, maybe she’s got the stones to keep her awful secret forever.
I know I wouldn’t last a day in the big house - someone would make me their biatch and they would trade me around for cigarettes. My only option would be to shank the biggest guy right away to make a reputation for myself. It would not be pretty…
Oh yeah and earthquakes!
Anna are you still here?
Is anyone here?
Hey Paw, how’s it going?
hiya skippy, well,it’s going lol.
CA - Yeah. I think limiting a shower to once a week would probably be enough to break her down. I say that more than half seriously because if you look back she talks about taking a shower a LOT. She went to Jesse’s to take one. She went to Amy’s to take one another time. The first thing she said when she got home after being bailed out the first time was “I’m going to take a shower.” She even mentioned it in the jail visit tapes - that she got one that day or previous night. Must be a big deal for her to have to talk about it. I thought a shower was a pretty normal mundane thing not requiring much talking about but to her I guess it’s really “special” I guess.
hey is anyone still on here?
anna said,in December 9th, 2008 at 5:49 pm
Yah but she wus in Salem OR..today for court..they brought her all the way up here.???
Oh she wus on video monitor…ferdumb!!!
Hay Shandi!!!
has anyone heard anything yet? this little girl has the same birth day as my 1 year old and this is really driving me crazy……….
mytwocents-The Original said,in December 9th, 2008 at 7:43 pm
Maybe thats her sub concious effecting her..making her feel as tho she has to continually clean Caylee off of her..cus I think she mustah scarred her sub concious..cus of all the nightmares and stuff…
Skippy at 6:14 pm -
THANK YOU for the info! You are SO right about the media not doing it’s homework! Our bloggers are BETTER! I mean we really care about the TRUTH! What a concept!
I have emailed a few news orgs to tell them exactly what I think of their “reporting” or their lack of objectivity. I think they need to hear that. To know at least some people out here know they’re doing a really poor job.
Nothng cept they are claiming that killr is a bi-polar,manic depressant with ppd..other words she is wantng to take the easy way out..I mean who can blaim her every child killer in Florida is gunna b callng bb for representation once he gets her life without parole…
Shandi , Caylee’s birthday is the same as my 12 yr old son as well.
hello pickles i live in ky and all this b.s is really driving me up the dam wall. on min. i think they might find something that will bring the little girl home alive but i get on-line and all i see is bad things is the baby not still out their some where or what. please fill me in… you know when my little girl turned 1 year old aug.9th 2008 we also had a little party for caylee.
Someone mentioned earlier that BB will be credited with getting the death penalty off the table but I don’t think he deserves any credit at all. Lemon responded to it and I don’t think even that affected the state’s decision. The state made the decision for their own reasons. BB didn’t have a gol darn thing to do with it.
All he’s done is get his client to pass up every opportunity she had for a sentence that MIGHT not have been life without parole.
Now she still faces life and he doesn’t care if he wins or loses. Winning would be extra good of course but he’ll be set even if he loses.
Skippy you should send that info to some news org along with a bill for your research time!
hi paw69 i have really been upset bout all this i look at my little girl and sometimes i see little caylee and i will just set and cry sometimes for hours
Shandi, we have all gone through that many times. We’ve had every emotion possible. It will get worse before it get’s better though.
We pray a lot.
what happened about the gave site the had in papers saying they found were caylee’s body was put and then moved??????
http://www.wesh.com/download/2008/1126/18155446.pdf
So killr wus prego b4…it says so in one of those emails..on july 11 or 13th I thinnk..
so i’m not the onlyone that crys and gets upset about a child i don’t know or haven’t seen? that makes me feel alittle better knowing i’m not as crazy as i thought.
7-11-2008 email..its says “I wus devestated last time casey wus pregnant”
No Shandi I cry too for Caylee we all do
i know good is with little caylee i just wish we knew something i feel like she is part of my family i know you’ll have to aswell.. you’ll are some really nice people on here..
Have jooh all seen these?? read the July 8th one
pickles i know this may sound alittle stupid but can i give you my e-mail address and if you don’t care will you please keep me in touch with what goes on with that sweet baby?
what is it???
And the AUgust 3rd one is quite interestng the conoway woman got 20yrs with no body
shandi, the best way to stay up to date on Caylee is to read this blog or to look at the local Orlando news organizations web sites.
try:
wftv.com
wesh.com
local6.com
orlandosentinel.com
I don’t mean to be rude and it’s up to Pickles but it’s a lot to ask someone to personally email you with updates. Pickles has kids and a family to tend to.
Any time you have a question, post it here and one of us (if not several of us) will be happy to answer it!
so is the mother out of jail or what soething said she was out is it true??
There email from cindys family to one anothr and from her brother to her..about killrs being a liar!!!
o.k. i’m sorry i guess i’ll get off here and leave you’ll alone
NO shes in jail on murder 1 charges
Shandi this is my email
christinastone78@hotmail.com
Oh no you dont have to go…I wuld just rather you have my email..cus in here there is no tellng whois lurking..and my email has been posted b4!! So its no big deal..for mine to go out there..feel free to email me anytime..
shandi - you are welcome to blog with us!
But it’s a whole different thing to ask someone to take their time to summarize updates and personally email you.
Another way to stay up to date is sign up for email alerts. I’m not sure how this works but some of our other bloggers do this and can tell you.
Anyone here now who can tell us how to and where to sign up for email alerts on the case?
Hay Shandi you dont have to go…..its just we have had probs with emails being posted..and jurks emailng to the emails…thats all..just keepng gaurd..its all good…I love Caylee..too!!
Google dus email alerts..!!!
Google.dus it and webslueths does it..and theres the Daily BS they have Caylee updates and sum juicy stuff concerning Caylee!!!
Aww thats to bad…dang it..oh well.
Dan, Please excuse my tartiness in answering your post @ 12:17 I had an emergency that needed my attention.
There are two exemptions under the Wiretap Act.
1. The “provider” exemption allows telephone sevice providers to listen to or monitor your telephone calls when they are directed to by law enforcement officers with a valid court order “search warrant” OR when it is necessary to provide you with service, to inspect equipement, or to protect the “provider’s property or rights, such as when a network is being used without being paid for.
2. Law enforcement officials can intercept telephone communication when one party consents to it, so if you are suspected in illegal activities and a goverment informant consents , agents can listen to and record your conversations with the informant, and use this information against you in a court of law.
As for Ms. Anthony’s phone being bugged by law enforement, in the hope of aquiring increminating conversations by Ms. Anthony I would say this is an illegal under the Wiretap Act.
I hope you come back, shandi! You are more than welcome to blog with us and ask all the questions you want! We all care about Caylee very much and we stay pretty up to date!
She wus a mole…Darnd It I must b gettng sick I wus off the ball and gave sum total stranger lady my email…I dunt feel so good..mmmm tea
Hello Attorney..I too had a question..do you think killr has told bb the truth about whut she did to Caylee..and if so do you think they let c and g kno???
Pickles, where are you finding the emails? I have not seen one about “first time she was pregnant.”
Aww hold on
SALUKI said,in December 8th, 2008 at 7:58 pm
the weshtv link!!!
June 11th email I think or the June 9th uhh hold on
its the 7/11/08 email its the 8th paragraph thingie down…kinda markd with sharpie next to it..
I wunder if she had an abortion??
What the hell is paddy talkin about? First of all the “death penalty” was takin off the table not the murder one charge! CORRECT?
# 2 - he is planning on coming back to jb park in a month to help find the baby!
Why would he say something like, ” Dont’ be surprised if LE drops the ball that they have the body?
What is he talkin about?
Paddy is droppng the ball..he says that dont b surprised if LE drops the ball that they have the body..wow oh buddie…I wundr if they found Caylee..cus they are not lookng for a live child but a dead child..
Paddy is givng hints again..tryng to draw c out of the ant cave…must b cus of there national appearance on television…go on Paddy and ruin there night..yur entitled!!!
Oh my gosh I wunder if they do have her remains…
If he doesn’t come back in JAN. we will know…but he surely wouldn’t be able to say soemthing like that if he knew they found her???????
What about him saying they got the murder one taken care of ….she is still charged with murder one right? just dp off table. IS paddy on crack right now!
you know i didn’t mean to upset. i’m sorry i asked something and then i feel like my thoughts don’t matter so dose anyone by chance know of another room i can go to and get some info. i don’t know much about these sites and all the web stuff mytwocents was even talking about….. and please be nice i’m just asking a “?” it’s not like i’m asking for a phone number or your home address.
Shandi…no no no…they are holdng casey on murder 1 charges in the orlando co.jail..cindy and george still hold to the thought that Caylee is alive..they got the death penalty takn off the table now she is lookng at life in prison..
No Paddy cant say that..unless its gunna b made public record soon..he shuldnt b sayng that..
THe reason he said the murder 1 is takn care of is prolly cus they got that one in the bag..they have enuff evidnce to prove murder…he is old..maybe he hadda brain fart..yes she is still charged with murder 1
I guess Paddy is on NG? I’m taping it.
It’s funny because the phrase “drop the ball” usually means messing up.
I am really worried about Tim Miller. In fact I put the blame for his illness at this time on Cindy Anthony. He has never been treated the way she treated him. It was despicable of her. That’s right up there with protecting M and doing everything to prevent little Caylee from being found. C is going to the hot house WAY downstairs right along with her daughter.
I hope they will be happy there forever together!
Wus it on NG??
shandi you are welcome to join us here on this blog. What do you need to know?
You can get a lot of information right here. But if you would like to read at leisure to catch up on the case, all of the web sites of the news organizations that I listed in my earlier post have articles going way back.
And you can get caught up there very quickly - with as much info as you - including all the latest!
Shandi…if you arent finding whut you are looking for here..there is anothr very informative sight..
http://www.momlogic.com
that one is way up to date…but you shuld stay..its nice here also!!!
and no pickles i didn’t get your e-mail address because you didn’t want me to have it i’m not that kind of person. i’m sorry i shouldn’t got on here now i see how you’ll are you want till people leave and talk bad about them that’s not nice all i was trying to do is check in and see what was going on. sorry i am a mole to you’ll.:(
Sometimes we miss posts and dont answer the ones we miss…we do apologize for that…
We will be happy to help you.
The other web sites are very interesting if you would like to read more. To find one go to your web address bar (above where it now reads: http etc etc bloggernews.net etc etc)
and erase everything except the http://www.
Then type in wftv.com or any of the other addresses. Then just click and you are there!
Oh pooh I wus just playng around…I wus hoping it wuld bring you bak out to post with us..I am sorry it came out in that way..please accept my apologies…I am truelly sorry!!…
shandi - please read my posts to you. None of them send you away. All of them welcome you to post a comment and ask questions.
All I suggested was that it was a lot to ask of one person to provide you with personal updates.
And you can sign up with google to receive an alert via email anytime something new about the case is posted on the web.
The mole part wus uncalled for so for that I am sorry..it wus just jokng round to get you to come bak…but the email part ..it is true..not smart on my part.
Please accept my apologie…I am truelly sorry..
Mytwocents wus right I shuldnt of posted my email to a stranger..
OH THE DRAMA….
hey a little drama is the spice of life! IMO
MBENZ09 - Oh, yes. And wait until you see the comedy! We’ve got it all here!
Come and sit a spell! And welcome!
MOLE? LOL…I think I missed a post!..:)
MBENZ09 - Are you getting one for Christmas or do you already have it?
I SEE THAT!! LOL SHANDI ACCEPT THERE APOLOGIES IM SURE YOU WILL BE WELCOME. AS LONG AS YOU HATE THE ANTHONY’S LIKE WE ALL DO YOU WILL BE HAPPY HERE, I CAN TELL. LOTS OF INFO, LOTS OF INSIGHTS, LOTS OF HATE FOR THE FIVE “FINGERS” OOPS ONLY 4 FINGERS NOW. REMEMBER CASEY SAYING “I’M STILL HERE” HOW HER PARENTS CANT SEE WHAT WE ALL SEE IS WAY BEYOND ME.. ANY WHO HI ALL
IM BUYING MYSELF ONE FOR XMAS ONLY BECAUSE I AM SURE AND HAVE BEEN TOLD THAT I CAN GET A PRETTY GOOD DEAL RIGHT NOW WITH THE WAY THINGS ARE AT TEH MOMENT. HAVE BEEN LOOKING ON LINE SO I WILL KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I WANT TO LOOK AT WHEN I VENTURE OUT..HOHOHO!!!
Ok girlies and gent (firefly Retired Attorney)
It’s been another day of no news about caylee and WAY too much about maggott …or Ms Anthony..
This girl is calling it a night! Have a great evening night owls!
(((((((((night cyber fam))))))))))))
I AM A WOMAN AND IT WILL BE FUNNY TO SEE HOW THEY TRY TO TAKE ADVANTAGE OF ME, OF COURSE I COULD BE WRONG WHO KNOWS LOL THE LAST CAR I BOUGHT WAS WITH MY DAD, I’M ON MY OWN THIS TIME
MMT I also extend my apologiies to you for not answering your questions posted @ 2:18
1.Defense attorneys should never stretch the truth. The attorney should prepare his questions for the witnesss in a way that the jurors determine the validity and credibility of the witness and his answers.
2. If the Defense attorney plans on putting his client on the witness stand to testify on there behalf he would most definately review the testimony with the client and have the client undergo an extentive mock question and answer session.
3. The attorney is employed by the client. If the attorney and the client disagree on a defense plan, the client has the right to fire said attorney, and retain another counsel to defend them.
4. Attorney’s are hired to defend the rights of their clients under the United States Constitution. The attorney who knowly goes down a path that is not in the best interest of his client should withdraw from representing the client.
NIGHTY NIGHT.. ME TOO NIGHT NIGHT
hello to everyone!
Shandi, welcome to the blog. Everyone of us was a newbie at one time or another and they way we got caught up and got our questions answered was to just ask here. There are soooooo many informative bloggers on here that if one can’t answer your question, several others can. It doesn’t matter if your new, just ask your questions and you’ll get several bloggers who will respond. That’s the easiest way.
The biggest success to blogging here is to not take things personal. If someone tries to give you advice, it is usually a genuine “out reach” to you.
My two cents worth corrected me on something the other night and she was right. I took it as helpful advice from one blogger to another and that’s all she was trying to do for you.
Stick around and ask all the questions you want………we REALLY are a good group!
Thank you Mbenz09..I shulda put just jokng after the mole comment..I hate to think somone left cus I said somthng rude….
Gnite C~A!!
Mbenz09…lucky lady..gettng a nice ride…!
Nightie night Benz!!!
Nite C~A…
Nite Mbenz09…
Pickels, again accept my apology for not answering your post @
I believe Ms. Anthony told Mr. Baez what she believes is the truth.
As to Mr. Baez telling George or Cindy Anthony attorney/client conversations that would never happen, it would void the attorney/client privledge and Ms. Anthony would be no longer be protected.
Oh so he is just goin by whatevr she told him wether or not its the truth..I see…
Thank you!!!
Pickels..you spell it different…pickels…
CHSAH…naw its all my fault…Shandi askd fur my email…then I postd it..then I thought bout it and thought..maybe I shuldnt of posted my email to a stranger then I let my imagination get the better of me and I said she wus a mole..it wus all in jokng..I mean you kno my imagination…so..I shulda put just jokng..but I didnt..
No need for apologies Attorney..its cool…!!!
Great now im all alone…fine I dunt wunna talk to any of j00oh anyways…
*kicks rocks barefoot*
Pickles, I read what you wrote, but I also have been blogging with you for awhile now and I didn’t think you were serious…..you always say funny things like that. If shandi doesn’t give you the benefit of the doubt, this won’t be the blog for her. We tease, we laugh, we forgive, we forget…….it’s all good. If Shandi leaves the blog, it wasn’t b/c of you. She better learn to roll with the punches (joking) we do in here!
So sorry, Pickles
Pickles….you ain’t alone! what am i???? chopped liver!????? (heeeee…heeeeee….)
Hi everyone just gettin home, and trying to srcoll through sooo many post!!
I thought NG was interesting tonight, maybe cause they had new panelists speaking, and it was just much more interesting this evening…
as far as baez on the talk show. BLAH BLAH BLAH
and another thing I noticed tonight, on the tapes M says to LV… tell everyone the charities thank you for all your help and support etc.. and then she says tell anyone who has information to tell the police… and I laughed out loud at the tv set M IS THE ONLY ONE WITH THE INFORMATION!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ok I am beat tried been in the rain all day but wanted to say hello to all. I’m gonna go read now the blog
Attorney..yur silly…!!!
hey pammyliz! glad to see you! I haven’t seen NG yet, coming on in 15 minutes so will blog until then.
pickkkkkkkkkles….you still here?
hey chopped liver
tee hee
pammyliz……rofl!!! you are soooo funny!
Liver!!!…Yapp Im here..my daughtr unpluggd my connection ther fur a min…dat der gurl of mine!!!
anything good on NG tonight?
Somone on NG said som crudd bout bi-polar last night…and tonite
Paddy said dont be suprised if LE drops the ball that they have the body
I think he means drops the dime….I dont think he means mess up like drop the ball genereally means…
Pickles….lol. How old is she?
26 mos..
Pickles…..WOW…..so paddy thinks LE does have a body???
I felt paddy was saying something maybe he is on to?? about the fbi, and the body.. IMO
tee hee CHSAH lol lol
I am so bleary eyed and trying to read the blog but my eyes are blurry from driving in the rain today has rained all darn day! now I am too tired to blog..:(
but am reading all the posts and seeing new peeps? pickles did you run someone out? JOKE i havent found your post yet on the person or what was said??? so i dont have to scroll up give it to me in a nutshell
I didnt even see it I just saw whut somone postd bout LE havng the body and I think he’s on to somthng…
Drop the ball..I think he ment drop dime..over here on the west coast it means like fyi ..uhh…layng it all out in the open…the 411!! givng the information…
Hey Pammyliz…oh yah..you just got off work..out in the rain all day whut the heck you do all day??
When is her birthday? my Grandaughter is almost 26 months!!!! Ok, this has nothing to do with the case but it is too cute. Today, my husband took her outside to play in the snow for the first time. He wanted her to eat snow and she looked at him like he was crazy….but she tried it and she loved it. Then he taught her how to pick icecicles off the tree and eat them! When she came inside she said……nana….I eat snow and popsickles! It was cute! It was her first snow experience! lol….ok, sorry I was off the subject.
I guess CHSAH…thats whut Paddy said..well thats whut I read above in post…that dont b suprised if LE drops the ball that they have the body..
They prolly do..thats prolly why all the secrecy..and the ants leaving town…
That is tooo qute…her bday is at the end of OCt…!!!
EEK Just found the post of shandi asking for email…hm.. I don’t feel so good now neither…..lol…
And the death penalty takn off the table…maybe they struck a deal…with killr…
LOL alot of driving my clients around pickles.. in and out all day , in the car out of the car….I take care of physically disabled and handicapped people bumps, and its going from one to the other you know.. yah i just got in and my girl is now wanting, oh pizza, mac and cheese, um can’t make up her mind!!!
i feel sick over the email exchange LMAO
omg……………I pray to God that Paddy is on to something! Ok, gotta watch NG so I will be back to see if your all still around!
Pammyliz……..Pickles was being her funny self and a new person took it wrong and got all hurt feelings and left……..that’s it in a nutshell! lol…
Pammy…
its soo lame…whutevr tho..
I hope they have the body..maybe thats why they said…when they decided no death..the unique situation this is..maybe they got the body..maybe the bi-polar..ppd thing is workng…I
awwwwwwwwwwww to the 1st snow experience…lol how cute!!!..liver
Pickles, my grandaughters birthday is Oct. 23.!! too funny! except your a momma and I”m a gramma! lol….brb!
Yah…so web slueths banned my email..both of them they wunt even let me be a member..cus I wus just tryng to read bout lv…I cant imagine why they wuldnt wunt ol Pickles around…
I posted somthng a long time ago I think that they didnt care for…
ok got it in nutshell..yah anytime leonard drops a clue like that it bugs me…
lol i said leonard like hes a personal friend of mine LOL… paddy… lol…
so it is tomorrow night the ants are on larry king, i get home about 9:30 and will miss some of it, I am sooo bumming
can someone please type down every word and post it here for me??LMAO..
truly i think tho it replays again at midnight if i do miss some. but if you wanna type it for me thats cool too
Liver…!!! ahahaha liver..
pammyliz said,in December 9th, 2008 at 10:04 pm
AHahahaha that is funny..Leonard…hay Leonard..
we love u liver…
maybe this blog moves to fast for me slow butt.. cause I type and by that time you all have typed more and I have to go back and read and then get to typing again
and my carpal tunnel doesn’t help
yah i said it like hes a freind of my ..yes…leonard…lenny…len… LMAO
i am tired tonight and i got my girl asking for everything in the fridge evn thos he doesnt want any of it.. attention ploys that truly work to get mom off here…
Type every last word from it…Im sorry but I cant stand c…she is sooo annoyng..IF she is medicated I might watch it..maybe they are goin to announce that they are also idiots here on the west coast..that we feel the same over here as the rest of the nation..that they suck..
Aww go mom..go satisy your daughters mommy fix..she needs jah…we understand..I too have to go..mine are doin the same..
gnite!!
you know what really boggles me? (and it doesn’t take much)… C comes out saying shes alive, M says in prison, shes ALIVE, BB comes out and says INNOCENT…half the nation says DEAD… FBI says Dead…LE said dead…then defense comes out and says PPD? BI-POLAR? then accidental. how is a person suppose to digest it all??? and make it all compact and understandable? know what I mean?
ok pickles yah she isnt lettin up neither.. shes cute she is eating a candy cane off our tree.. I will spend some time later reading when she goes to bed, and read what I missed….
night all… liver if you come back on tonight I may be here later!!!
RAJ
Thank you for answering my question and clarifying a lot of misunderstandings. Please know that there is never a need to apologize, we all lead busy lives and sometimes we are away from the blog for days or even weeks at a time.
I was always led to believe that although defense attorneys will act in the best interest of their client, some will often stretch the truth in order to win a case and $popularity$. Oops, sorry, I meant to put quotes around that word. (Please say you have a sense of humor!)
This group has been dissecting Baez for months trying to get some insight as to what kind of man he really is… now with your answer, I feel that we can measure him up to some standards or code of ethics.
You come across as a fine upstanding attorney and I’m sure that I speak for everyone on this blog when I say we appreciate you answering so many of our questions.
LOL
I found this post as I am reading and thought it was rather hilarious novalis…
novalis said,in December 9th, 2008 at 4:33 pm Thank you pickles. Lemanon looked like a beady-eyed pit bull during that interview - I had only been able to find one picture of him previously and I can see why he should not be anxious to appear in public. Like the sort of legal equivalent of a biker bar bouncer.
He also rather reminds me of the troll that lives under a bridge and collects tolls that the townsfolk tell their children about to make them behave.
and as usual MMT
your posts are always a delight tocome across and read, you bring such nice posts to this blog, so thank yourself for being one of the ones who make it a great blog!
Maybe I’m misreading, but the way I read those emails:
They were written in July, and I believe the writers are discussing what was going on at that time with the A’s…I understand it to mean that they are theorizing about M possibly being pregnant then (which I don’t think she was, unless she had an abortion/miscarriage around the time of Caylee’s murder)…so I think when they talk about her being preggers before, they are referring to when she was preg with Caylee. Does anyone else interpret it that way? Am I misunderstanding the emails?
(kicking rocks in the dirt)
*knock knock*
Audrey, That’s how I took it. It was when she was pregnant with Caylee.
On NG tonight Casey said “If anyone has any information tell them to come forward without haste!” Freudian slip? Also Baez was shaking his head no when he said Caylee was alive which is interesting body language. He also blinks a lot. What’s with Padilla saying they may have the body? You’d think the show would stop and a full explanation would be required right then! Why would they hide a body until trial? They want to see the expression on M’s face after she put them through thousands of dollars of expensive investigation?
Sounds like an interesting night of info on NG tonight. Wonder if they found her, or made a deal behind closed doors…maybe that’s why the death penalty was taken off the plate?
Hi Kris! I’m wondering about that too
Wish I could have seen the body language or even the facial expressions.
Did Paddy smirk or anything when he said it?…kinda like that “I can’t officially say..but heres a hint” twinkle in his eye.
Baez was on the Today show this morning with good closeups. He acts like he needs more time now. I hope because he has no clue how to progress against the evidence. The lawyer said he was going to throw everything he’s got against the wall to see what sticks.
They also said he never should have said M was innocent. I guess it takes some bargaining away.
It just sounds to me from what I read in here like he is posturing…but what I am more curious about is why? Talking about a defence of bi-polar…Ya gotta be kidding me!
Paddy just quietly threw it out there, like he was looking for the right moment. It was the lack of reaction that puzzled me. What’s his motive? Is he trying to scare the defense camp?
A lot of bi polar blogging today, lol! She’s still evil whether she is bi polar or not.
As far as I’m concerned…it was all over once they came forward with that “what if” letter to the court and prosecution to see if they’d bite. They put themselves in such a position of guilt that backpeddling now by saying she’s alive somewhere just cannot fly for them. How can they feel doing a 360 will make any of the public believe them after that letter?
val said,in December 10th, 2008 at 12:16 am Paddy just quietly threw it out there, like he was looking for the right moment. It was the lack of reaction that puzzled me. What’s his motive? Is he trying to scare the defense camp?
You think maybe it was a bluff card val? You know them cowboys sure can play a good poker face…lol.
Something freaked them out to produce that letter. Big mistake for a lawyer. He doesn’t seem to have a consistent theme for his defense, does he?
I still want to see the Zenaida and M picture that he made a deal about.
I am just convinced that even though he has acquired a team to help guide him that was definitely a mistake for him (that letter). That showed what a green-horn he truly is handling a murder case.
I truly hope that comment Paddy made meant something and not just a wild chance at playing a bluff card. I wish I could have seen his face and body language when he said that.
LOL@bluff card. Y’know that is almost the way he looked to me. Baez has no reputation that makes him a good choice. OJ at least hired the best; no rookie mistakes. M’s parents shake their heads at her decision to go with Baez. If they are so close I’d think they’d get the best lawyer they could find for their innocent daughter, not leave her fate up to an unknown. Heck, I knew to get the best when I divorced, and it wasn’t life or death.
True val…but ya never know having the “best” more educated lawyer to help her out could advise her to break a deal to throw accomplices under the bus…and that could possibly mean the exact person using their pocket book could wind up doing time with their darling daughter….wouldn’t that be poetic justice!
Good point, maybe they will let her sink for good reason. I wish they’d be cell buddies. They’d have more rotten pizza smell to deal with.
In fact they should only feed M pizza until she confesses or reaches 500 lbs.
What I find very interesting is that date of Paddy’s hint (today 9th)..is exactly one month to the day from the search. And from what I remember discussing with my pathologist friend was the info on that lab analysis (chromatograph tandem mass spectrometer) takes exactly one month to define liquified Dna removed from remains…bone marrow, body tissue etc…Now I’m not saying that could have anything to do with Paddy’s comment, but I do find it awfully peculiar.
That’s weird timing all right. I hope it’s true!
That is the exact machine the lab would use for a sendout specimen to determine Dna analysis. And it is usually done through Quantico (FBI)..or Kevin Ballard (PA).
I’m sure if they used Quantico..they would’ve rushed sending it..I’m sure those FBI folks truly want to nail that B@#ch!
re: Audrey said,in December 9th, 2008 at 11:29 pm
Audrey, if I remember correctly in those emails Shirley Plesea, Casey’s grandmother and one of her friends? Rick? (I can’t remember the correspondent) - are talking about the troubles Cindy is having with Casey. She is not home a lot, etc. and they are thinking she might be pregnant again. I believe those emails are either just after Casey left home or shortly before.
Perhaps that was her M.O. when she was pregnant with Caylee - she seemed to spend a lot of time at the Grunds then and also right afterward when Caylee was born. When she was pregnant with Caylee, Casey and Cindy might not have been getting along well. The fact Cindy was calling Caylee her “best mistake” long afterward makes me wonder what she was calling her during those months before she gave birth.
And perhaps that is why Shirley is speculating that it could be happening all over again, based on Casey’s behavior at the time this is written. JMO
Bad ice storm here…email server has been down for a while now…at least the internet is up and working.
Kris, what state do you live in?
Hi novalis…boy that would be disheartening to even think she didn’t deserve the one baby but to even think she could be pregnant with a second one…eeeeek!
We’ve had a fire and an earthquake in our area today, but at least it’s warm!
NY (country livin’)!
eeeeekkkkkkk, Kris, Keep warm and stay indoors safe. I live in GA. Waiting for this storm to hit us down here.
So do you think it was just speculation? M looks thin now.
where are you from val?
Tornadoes in December seems strange to me, I’m a weather freak and don’t remember weather being so weird like this.
Would give anything for warmer weather….I’m so cold all the time. I look au naturale’ in an oversized sweat shirt and pants..lol.
I seriously doubt that Casey would have gone through with a second pregnancy. The first one didn’t do a lot for her. Unless she could have profitted in some other way. And even then, I think she would be too vain to pole dance with her belly button out half an inch.
question for RAJ - if, as Padilla speculated, LE might have found a body, would LE be obligated to notify the immediate family, even in a pending murder investigation? How far would that obligation extend? Mother only? or family as well? thanks -
M looks thin val? I woulda figured she would be spreading in the hips and thighs by now from all those snickers bars she can purchase and the sad little group who keep sending her money to her account.
California! Other weather is very scary to me. I moved to Ohio for the Blizzard of 77, my first time out of California. I was so happy to move home.
novalis….this is just a guess on my part but I would tend to think even given the hippa laws in the medical field of confidentiality that only immediate family (mother/father)would be notified. I could be wrong on this because i am not a lawyer…but it just seems to ring true to me, and we all know the father is unknown, and the mother is suspect for that disappearance, I just don’t think it would have to extend to outer family…as cruel as that sounds…IMO.
We can only hope she’s living on Snickers, Kris, but she didn’t look pregnant. She doesn’t seem to be a fan of prison food, so maybe it keeps her weight down.
That was a bad blizzard val..I remember it well. Getting colder just thinking about it…
Maybe she’s afraid that someone who hates her in there will sabotage her food…lol. Maybe a little spit..or a boogie or two for good measure..lol!
They sold T-shirts that said “I survived the Blizzard of 77″, lol, I should have bought one.
Ebay val..ebay!
It was eerie when she was telling Lee what to tell the media and then she paused and the way she said ,,, Her,,,,,,,,,Mother. Almost like something had kicked in for a split second about what she had done.
Kinda hard to explain what I’m trying to say.
I heard that Padilla said don’t be surprised if OSCO or FBI drops it on us that they have the body. I have to go back and check on that.
If that is so, even if the Anthony family was not notified (and who knows if it might have been that little visit made to their home right after the search at Jay Blanchard Park) and just Casey was, or neither - then I have heard that Lemanon set up a plea bargain with the team should that occur. Maybe that is why the state decided not to go for the death penalty.
If that is the case, it may be that George and Cindy are going to use their Larry King opportunity to repeat yet again their daughter is “not a murderer” to try to impress a potential jury pool that it could have only been an accident. Since they are following leads as a “side trip” to their Larry King appearance, it has got to be about Casey. I’m sure she is pleased that, once again, “the little snot head” gets second billing.
There was a political rally here not long ago..coulda sold some that said “I survived the Spitzer scandal..unscathed”…lol.
I’m confused. If they find a body in a homicide investigation, why wouldn’t they release that information after notifying immediate family? It’s bound to be revealed at some point, isn’t it?
Maybe this is why the sudden “Bi-Polar” came out???
Kris - I understand hppa laws apply to the medical field, and am just wondering if they also apply to the coroner’s office. Perhaps LE, even if they did not have a legal obligation to notify the grandparents, would have thought it was humane to let them know before it came out in the trial or the tabloids.
And it might have put an end to their incessant media drum banging about “Caylee” sightings. just a thought.
I think that will be their bombshell. I just don’t feel they are obligated to tell the grandparents (who would probably go into denial anyway), only the immediate which is Casey and in that case she is the jailed suspect, so they could keep that info to themselves for now.
If you notice, every time we’re about to hear a “bombshell”, Baez seems to put out new tactics.
So were the tapes of M crying released before or after the body (is possibly) discovered, Novalis? I still think it was odd timing for the death penalty to be dropped. What was the rush?
Even with a body, from the way I understand it, she’s too young for the death penalty. Hell I dunno anymore. I keep banging my head on this anyways.
Wait, who is talking about a new “bombshell”? It better be one this time, darn it!
novalis…that is truly a guess on my part, and the only reason I think that way about the Hippa laws is because in order to determine if any remains are truly in fact Caylee..they would have to perform alot of medical testing on her. So according to the laws any release of medical info (which I still would consider this too)….would need consent..caylee being a deceased minor can’t give that consent and they won’t go to monster mom for permission either. That is how I was thinking about it.
It would sorta be like a nosy grandmother calling a lab to find out a paternity suit in which her son or daughter was involved in..if they’re a minor and she is primary care giver she has a right to know…if not they hang up the phone…lol . (just a little levity in lab humor…we wouldn’t hang it up rudely).
Do those laws affect a homicide victim Kris? I would think legal rights would be different in this case.
Remember C said that the maggots were from a rotten pizza, which there was no rotten pizza,,,She also said that what they found when Tim was searching for Caylee was bones of a dead cow or something like that,,,I wonder if they did find that it was that of Caylee and that’s why Paddy said what he said tonight. And not only that, Baez once again is looking for a new stradegy. He always does this right before we hear of a “bombshell”. So I’m just waiting for a new “bombshell” now.
some folks on other blogs are debating whether or not medical examiner has to notify next of kin (parent only) or whether if that parent is part of ongoing case, that right is superceded. People with an inside link to ME office say Casey only is required and people looking up statutes say the state is under no obligation. I was only speculating that perhaps LE might have done that to shut George and Cindy up a bit.
val - I don’t think the timing of the interviews would be formally connected with a plea process. Once LE processed the video and made them available per Sunshine Law, it would be the media that would have requested them - although LE, in making sure they were available, might have wanted to send a message to the defense that, should there be a plea on the table, if forensic testing looks promising and the jury will be seeing what we are seeing, it just won’t look good for Miss Party Pants unless she cops that plea.
I truly don’t know for sure val…this is just my thoughts and opinion on it. If you think about it logically…the only way at this late stage for them to even determine it truly is Caylee is through medical science, and any info involved with that person living or even deceased is privledged to that person alone, unless a minor…like if my daughter has a throat culture..that info will be released to me in her stead. So just knowing that they can’t identify her now by simply looking at her it would be considered a medical determination through testing…the results of those tests I do not feel would have to be given to the primary care giver/mother Casey (even thought we know C was more a mom to her). This is just coming from my thoughts on working in the field for a very long time. I could be wrong though…I’m not a lawyer.
How else would Paddy know if he wasn’t involved with finding the body? I’m sure LE wouldn’t tell him to casually mention it on NG.
That sounds like patient confidentiality, which implies it protects the privacy of a living person. I don’t know, it just doesn’t make sense in a criminal investigation to me. Where is the Attorney? You two are up late, btw. It’s 10:30 my time!
They could val….sometimes they use the media as an outlet to see what they want them to see. And if they felt using Paddy as liason to that outlet, for whatever their reasons may be, they could’ve given him a written script..
Val..the hippa laws extend to beyond the persons death too…Example: if a long time patient suddenly dies in the hospital of HIV or Hepatitis C..just because they’re gone and one day you happen to run into an aunt of theirs or a friend and they pry you for info, you cannot give that info just because they are now deceased..it extends beyond death for the sake of respect and ethics.
val - I also think that state was holding DP as a heavy artillery strategy they could easily drop - the prosecution knows that even with a body and forensics it would be very difficult to prove whether cause of death was intentional or accidental - even with all of the premeditated internet searches and other circumstantial stuff. It’s just not tight enough for death penalty IMO. I think the state knew at the outset it would go for Murder One - death penalty, plea down to either life sentence or manslaughter if necessary and simply included the DP as a bluff or bargainng chip if defense was either cooperative or uncooperative.
I hadn’t heard the term hipaa laws before Kris, thank you. Padilla had to shake up the defense with that comment.
val - on that note, I think I will retire. I have yet to see Nancy Grace today. Goodnight you two!
By novalis…you are extremely informative, you remind me of someone who knows this case well…goodnight!
So Baez knew that the DP wouldn’t fly so it no longer became a bargaining chip? I agree it didn’t seem like they’d go for it for a number of reasons, but I hope that M or her parents would be worried.
Yeah…I am really holding some hope now between that comment Paddy made, the fact they recently took the death penalty off the table, and that it is the right time frame for the testing to be completed that quite possibly they have some big news coming.
G’night, Novalis, thanks for the great information!
I will be optimistic with you Kris!
That was the one bluff card I wish LE would’ve played right to the end…the death penalty.
There does seem to be a convergence of events here. I’m going to be annoyed with Paddy if he threw that out for nothing!
My gut tells me the timing is just too coincidentally peculiar. Today is a month marker from the search.
I’m sure Baez assured the whole family that LE was bluffing so they weren’t concerned. I don’t know if I would trust him on that though, jeez it’s a Death Penalty!
May I ask how you are feeling Kris? On the road to recovery, I hope?
I feel a bit better today..but that’s cause the temp went up a bit..it was really cold yesterday in the negative degrees.
One day at a time val…this was very long term in me that I wouldn’t doubt it will have long term systemic properties and even if it’s on the way out it would still be a long time in coming. Thanks for asking.
Well, take good care of yourself. It’s hard to keep warm, I remember vividly!
Thank god for pellet stoves! They are awesome!
Think I’m gonna hit the hay now….I gotta sneak in that room too…cause he’s mad at me for pointing out that he had more than three of the bi-polar characteristics listed in the blog above….more like nine of them…lol…Guess I better tip toe into the bedroom…lol.
Goodnight.
I remember those! They use them up north a lot too in the forest and mountain areas.
Goodnight Kris!
Just a thought here. I’m sure you all have already coverd this, but the Ants and Baez HAVE to be trying to keep “doubt” alive with the general public…oooh, alive, bad choice of words! Sorry.Maybe a better way of saying this would be,the Ants are trying create the idea of “doubt” about M’s involvement,with their wirlwind “tour” of the media.
But really, unfortunately, there is no live Caylee! All the Ants are doing is looking more foolish than ever and trying to keep the idea in people’s minds that “no body, no crime” theory. Anything to save the psycho in jail!
The defense has nothing! Most people think, with reason, the State’s job is a tough one in this case. They have to prove thier case, possibly without a body, crime scene or method/weapon of the crime. That’s understood, but who else could have killed this little girl? Can BB really tell us some song and dance M created that we’ll buy?
However, I contend BB and the lot have NOTHING! They have no character witnesses, he has a suspect to defend who has told nothing but lies! Yet BB thinks they’ll speak in Court and everyone is suppose to believe her and free her!BB knows there is no other suspect in this crime, M and her lying family have many troubling issues that a dictionary could define dysfuctional any better!
BB knows this is a family who tampered with several pieces of key evidence(see clothes with “rotten pizza smell” on ‘em, “airing the car out” and the infamous brush), BB’s client, exhibits behavior and has a relationship with her mother that provide a “taylor made” motive for murder! Most importantly, there is absolutley no sign, none with any credibility, of a live Caylee, since G saw her on 6/16! The deck is stacked bigtime!
I have this gut feeling something will break in this case. Paddy’s comment on NG was interesting! Can’t imagine leaglly the State could hide a body that has been recovered. I do know LE has stated they “more” evidence! I’d be more inclined to believe a wire tap taped from the Ants home when M was out on bail, that reveals a confession rather than the body being held secretly.
BB isn’t even close to being ready for trial. There has to be either a motion to contiue, change of venue or something else coming. Any delay has to benefit that State! BB and company are backed in a corner. His “100% innocent” statement made my stomach turn, shades of that creep O.J.! I guess BB just admitted to the world that M is guilty! LOL
Interesting that all the accusations being made by the Ants about LE using the media to buld a case against M ends up being exactly what they are doing to try to provide “doubt” in the public eye. Man, they are a twisted family!
In the meantime,the Ants are now “On Tour” going on a West Coast swing promoting an innocent M. LOL I was thinking,shouldn’t they be looking for Caylee? This means two things, there is no live Caylee and the Ants have to prove the only suspect in this case, their nutcase daughter, is innocent!
Oh, Dan! But they ARE looking for a live Caylee. Didn’t you know that the found or received some tips on sightings in California - just in the nick of time to coincide with the Larry King interview! LOL! Maybe this way they can take the trip off their taxes! But I’ll bet they don’t do anything in Calif other than the interview. The ants are truly dirt IMO.
The other thing I noticed that tickles me no end is that all of the defense strategies I’ve heard are based on excuses for WHY she did it.
I have not heard one defense strategy based on “innocence” - that she did not do it!. LOL!
Hi, Kris! Hope you are better. Treading on dangerous ground giving you know who that info about symptoms. Be careful.
You said you wished LE had held on to the death penalty until closer to trial to continue to try to scare a confession or some info out of M and I do too except I think they might have been prevented from doing so by a motion BB made last week demanding that the State prove the basis for the dealth penalty charge. Right after that the state withdrew it. I sure hope the state is being smart about this. I’ve heard that at least one lawyer - named Linda? - is very sharp. I sure hope BB doesn’t show up the state with his buffoonery!
Kris “The Original” said,in December 10th, 2008 at 12:12 am Did Paddy smirk or anything when he said it?…kinda like that “I can’t officially say..but heres a hint” twinkle in his eye.
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From what I remember when he said that, it was with that same same little smirk on his face we saw with the dumpster going to play a big part in the case!
I think maybe pickles is right about him maybe going on a hunch is all! He wouldn’t have that kind of information.
If paddy still comes to search in Jan it was all a hunch. I’m not sure I believe in all paddy says, he runs with his hunches and gets us all worked up.
If he doesnt’ come back in January, I think it would then be safe to think they have found something in the form of bones and a match of dna to the hair or the stain…ya, the stain,…..WHAT ABOUT IT! I think the stain is gonna play a huge part in the forensics.
They have never released ANY information on the testing on the stain.
morningc~a your right no info on stain
matbee, they prob wouldnt tell c&g either or would they have to i meant bb, gonna go back a read posts, how cold where you are? here its 0 hope car starts!
WOW…what a nasty storm we are gettin. It IS a snow day for us today. Lot’s of snow and ice rain and now more snow.
MTC - You still here…What do you think about the stain and no information?
ANNA - where ya you hon?
oh boy, where ya you….translation
WHERE ARE YA HON!…LMAO
c~a minnesota
your in oregon right?
kids had a 2hr late start yeaterday from snow only 4 mo till spring
m2c~morning didnt see you here this am, sorry
Good Morning All!
Hope these tornadoes don’t come to where I’m at today or tomorrow.
Be careful in all that ice and snow.
Anna, BAH is Basic Allowance for Housing.
I saw last night you asked what it was.
dan@5:50 read the first few lines of your post and i agree i think this is all to raise reasonable doubt for ptential jurors, after the trial i bet we dont hear of any more caylee sightings, hopefully m doesnt get out somehow, gonna go finish reading
thanks paw and morning to you to and any one else here i missed!
They pay you for housing/bills,food,and once a year they give money for the soldier to get more ACUs ect. plus his base pay.
paw~where you at??? i hate the tornado sirens in summer we had one here in 98 took out most on st peter mn, good thing i lived 13 mles away, scary as heck!
Allenhurst/Hinesville/Ft.Stewart,Ga.
I don’t think she will ever get out. She still has the other charges to attend to , plus Zenaida ordeal as well.
The only reason I’m worried about the tornadoes is because we live in a mobile home. This whole area we live in has more mobile homes than anything else. Which I find odd since we are so close to the ocean(hurricane reasons).
speaking of m 2 preg didnt they say she had miscarage and it was someone named brandon?? when i heard that i just assumed it was another lie for sympathy from friends is it really true???
I’m not too sure about the 2 pregnancy thing. It seems very cloudy at the moment.
Morning all!!!
I would like to make a comment regarding m dropping out of highschool. Yes, sometimes I believe it is the parents responsibility and their fault. I , on the other hand also believe that as a parent we can not be totaly responsible for the choices our children make
I know this, because it has affected me personally. I have a daughter who, through=out her entire school years, never like school, did not ever live up to her potential and ultimaately quit in her junior year..
It devasted her family and me… but I did everytihing humanly possible for her.. we had tutors from the time she was 8..nothing helped.
We withheld things from her..we ‘grounded’ her.. it did not matter one bit.. we had no choice, she was 17 and legally could drop out of school. On the other hand, her older sister, is in her senior year of college and will be soon graduating. I do not know, or think, we did anything different with our children. Sometimes parents are not to blame for their childrens actions.
My youngest, then got pregnant, had the baby at 18, and now still shows absolutey no responsibility. She has been mixed up in drugs..
(still combating that problem), has almost lost her child…
As a parent I have felt great guilt over this situation. We, as parents, sometime have little control over what our children do.
I have such great contrast between my two daughters…yet they were raised the same way. Yes, they were both loved and treated equally..
This is in no way, to say c actions can be justified. If my daughter ever hurt my grandbaby I would have no problem choicing my grandbaby over my daughter.. unlike what c is doing.
I hope everyone understands what I am trying to say… I have felt so much guilt and self questioning what I did differently.. yet I have no answers…
My youngest is now living back at home.. where I can keep an eye on her.
Sorry for the rambling… this situation is so sad.. especially when I have a beautiful grandbaby that is so innocent…
Thanks for listening..
paw~dont you have emergency shelter nearby?? yep id be scared to:( you guys have the sirens?? i feel lucky to have a basement, when sirens go off i put kids under stairs, have bycicle helmets for them to put on and blankets, its still very scary, lights go out heavy rain, got caught in a hail storm last summer at my daughters softball game, hail was about nickle size, came on fast one minute beautifull day next crazyness!
lilred~know where you ae comming from every family hassome problems, but i think the diffrence between the ant and e1 is the ants cover up for m and blame e1 else and dont make her take responsibility, or didnt look at money stolen from g/paw account, as parents we can only do our best but you also have to let a child learn from thier misteaks,not make it all ok. did that make sence?? im sure you are a great parent and loving grandparent and im sure your daughter is in no way like m
paw~ga, my oldest daughter has fam there, have you eaten boiled peanuts??? they said they were good, dont sound like it to me
Anna, I have no idea what they have here. We’ve only been here since September 10th. EEK!
Lilred, I’m going through the same thing with my 10 yr old daughter and 12 yr old son. Daughter isn’t comprehending what she’s learning. Son is basically a genius, but he’s also deaf and they both have medical problems, ADHD is 1 of them.
Morning e1: I have spent quite a time reading pages of blogs. I am so far behind. I skipped some to read the current blog, and saw Lilred’s post this a.m. LilRed I have 3 children, 2 sons, 1 daughter, and just like you I have 1 son, the elder, who has never lived up to his potential. He dropped out of school, went on to get GED, attended college, dropped out, enrolled in one of those technical colleges for drafting, dropped out, has had many different jobs, relationships, 1 daughter out of wedlock, it goes on and on. His brother and sister, entirely different. Have one college graduate, who is getting masters, and planning on PHD, one married daughter, 2 wonderful grandchildren, a great son-in-law. Take my comfort where I can get it. Funny, but the dysfunctional son is the sweetest, nicest person you could ever meet. So loving!!! Doesn’t smoke anything!!! doesn’t drink, has 140 IQ! so who knows. Same family values, same nurturing.
In the 7/8/08 email from Marylou to Shirley, Marylou said:
“I am with you in thinking something might be amiss with caylee. I can’t believe she would be that upset to speak to and hear her grandmother on the phone?
I just hope that little girl is ok.”
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Too upset to speak to her grandmother? That tells me that one of the excuses M fed C about staying away was that Caylee had witnessed some part of the big fight that M and C had on June 15 and claimed that it was C’s fault for upsetting her too much to talk to her. Talk about a guilt trip! I don’t remember C mentioning that in any of her interviews, do you? In fact did she ever tell LE about the fight they had the night of June 15? I haven’t heard it on any of the tapes but could have missed it or maybe it’s on a tape that has not been released yet.
I also noticed le has not mentioned stain in trunk. I think they have something there!!! C~A, so glad to hear about house! Paw69, you all be careful, have an emergency plan you practice with kids in case you need to leave suddenly because of storm. Practice with kids what to do, so it is ingrained. Lived in Ohio, 2 close tornados. So many times we had to run to basement. Anna, loved being snowed in, cosy and warm, with kids home, we had blizzard warnings, but had lots of food, games, light and warmth.
Lilred: Sounds like you tried to do everything you could to help your daughter. All C & G ever did was make her problems go away by denying them or covering them up and bully people into trying to excuse M (like they do) for everything she’s done.
BTW - To clear up one misconception that the media perpetrated on us and that a fellow blogger enlightened us about today. M did not drop out of HS. At the end of her senior year she was 1/4 credit short but it looks like the HS gave her a diploma anyway (probably later in the summer or something). There is a document to that effect (and I am sorry I did not go back to find out who made this discovery for us. I will try to!)
Anyway IMO this is just one of many times that M got away with something although it may be common practice for High Schools to let seniors slide - esp when it’s just 1/4 credit that’s lacking.
Hi PAW69..
I am sorry to hear about your children, I imagine it is very difficult for you. My youngest was also diagnosed with ADHD,, she was on meds but in 7th grade refused to take them. We have had her in counseling so many times I can not even recall. We even took her to talk to our parish priest.. so this has been an ongoing problem from very early on.
My daughter also got mixed up with some bad people.. last boyfriend tried to burn down th duplex we had rented for her… my granddaughter was there at the time. So DCFS stepped in..(thank God)… that was the final straw, we had to move her and my grandbaby back home. (also she has never held down a job). Although she is nothing like m.. she loves Alli to pieces.. but she has bad many bad decitions (spell check) She is now in parenting classes and therapy.. it sure has been a long haul..
PAW 69 - There was no second pregnancy.
The email reads: “I smiled when you said Cindy says she doesn’t think Casey is PG. I don’t think she though Casey was pg the last time around either?” It was written in July when M and Caylee were MIA.
What they are discussing is why M is staying away and keeping Caylee away from C. Someone, maybe C’s mother Shirley thought maybe M was staying away because she was pregnant again. Apparently C did not think so.
Shirley’s friend says, “C didn’t think Casey was pregnant the last time” (meaning the first time- with Caylee) “either.”
That’s the interpretation that a couple of us made of that statement.
i agree with m2c about tim m ilness all because of c he went to help her and look what happened the fam is like a pack of paranas, eat you alive!
Lilred, It was difficult in their early ages, As they are getting older and understanding more about themselves, they have calmed down A LOT since hubby joined the military. Their punishment is now doing laps of Iron Mikes. They hate it, but when we consulted the doctor about the new punishment, he said there is nothing wrong with it and that they are actually being benefited by it, making their leg muscles stronger. I feel that due to hubby joining the military and bringing home to the kids what he has done in BCT and AIT has really turned them around. I pray that they follow this path and keep doing very well like they have since September. It has been a complete 100% turn around. They don’t even argue anymore with each other. They went from (omg I’m gonna pull my own hair out), to angels, literally.
M2C, Thank you for clarifying that. I thought it was the Caylee pregnancy too. But then I saw post of a possible 2nd one but couldn’t find anything to back that up.
Hey E1,, thanks for listening to my probs,, It makes me feel so much better to just talk about it. For soooo long, I figured I did something so terrible to my child that she could not function as an adult… but I have learned to let that go. On the upside, I have my granddaughter… and that is awesome!! In fact, soon she will be waking up!!! There is nothing more sweet than seeing that little face in the AM…
Lilred, For 98% of parents, we do what we can with what we have, and then some. I use to think I was doing something wrong as well. I even called CPS to come into my home to help me figure out what I was doing wrong. They saw all of the true colors with my kids. They saw how I was punishing them. They said that it wasn’t me, but it also wasn’t them. When they looked at their medical/mental history, they were shocked as to how well things were actually going. So I chopped it up as, this is no one’s fault and I just have to find new ways to deal with things as they come.
you guy s rember in the first interviews with friends they say m had a miscarage?? someone named brandon?? ill go back and see if i can find them might take awhile
I feel unwelcome on this blog. No one talks to me, so I quit. bye
I won’t be back. I won’t lurk. Good luck everyone/ Justice for Caylee!!!
Molly? I didn’t see your post. I’m sorry. Don’t leave.
We have a plan for storms. But now because we live in a mobile home and no (true) shelter around, it scares me.
Molly, The State has a lot of evidence that we haven’t seen or heard about. That’s why I feel they have a strong case. IMO.
MollyBear what’s hoppinin?
I was just about to say that!!!!!!
No one is paying attention to my last couple of comments!!!
MollyBear! I started to read your post and got to the second sentence where you congratulated CA on her house and that sent me on a search for a post from CA about a house. And I still haven’t found it!
About the stain - I HOPE that if we have not heard about it it could be good evidence!
(kicking rocks at Pickle) Where are youuuuuuuuu Bumpy? LOL.
Molly..
You are not serious, are you?? Alot of times peoples statements are not always addressed.. I hope you understand that. Today, I got off on a tangent.. (sorry)… Alot of times I would post something and it did not always get answered the way I thought it would. no biggie. If you have a statement/comment/question, ask again till someone answers you!!
Don’t leave.. and don’t get your feelings hurt, please…
MollyBear- Tell me joooh are kiddin!!!!
You haven’t been ignored nearly as often as I have! LOL! It’s just the way the blog works sometimes. It’s a little like merging in traffic going 100 miles an hour!
People don’t see your post when they refresh and sometimes are involved in a “conversation.” Just post “Please see my post at x am! And reply you nincompoops!”
You are not really being ignored at all.
Pickles…
Haha.. I just reread your comment yesterday about the bread crumbs..
c’mom white rabbit I need you!!! I get lost easily…LMAO
Half the time when I refresh, If people have posted at the same time, I don’t see those posts until someone says something about it, then I have to scroll back up and read it. Especially if more than 1 post was posted at the same time or within 1-2 minutes apart. A lot of times my posts don’t get answered either, but hey, that’s ok, some day they will, I’m sure.
MOLLYBEAR - WHERE R JOOOOH??????????
Molly….
PLEASE STAY!!! Just be persistant, if you want an answer.. keep badgering!!! Thanks again for your reply on my kids.. I know
how you feel.. and you know how I feel. I think we have a
kindrid spirit.. Please stay..
ps. we are not ‘lurkers’, more like ‘fireflys’, I don’t know who coined that expression, but it is so true… I know there are many, many days I just flitter in and out without posting..
Lilred,
As a parent and educator, it is easy to blame parents/ourselves when children fail. Shed the guilt! It’s not our fault, yet our instincts tell us to suffer for any missteps of our children!
I often wonder if children like your daughter “fail us”. That’s a huge burden for most kids, to live “up to” what we expect. Maybe she wants to be “average” in a world that looks down upon average, when really, there is nothing wrong with average!
There are so many people who think that all their children are alike. Each child is different and doing things the same way won’t work very often in any occupation or “walk of life”.
Your daughter may have needed something more strict or maybe even more freedom, less constriction in her life…I hope that makes some sense. In other words, the buttons to push on each child is different. Or, as I often say, “the genetic make up” of your children is tough for them to shed. All families have “demons” that appear, demons that dominate other flawed extended family members. Sometimes, I feel that plays a huge part in addiction/decision making skills or personality of our children!
I hear what you are saying. We have hit some “bumps in the road” with our children. But, life’s a long journey, I wouldn’t want to be around myself at the age of 22! I have changed for the better, at least I hope I have! LOL yeah, things will work out over time with love and support!
The age of 17-18 seems to be the difficult age. It saddens me when my wife and I are hurt, as I’m sure you are, by your childrens actions. Just always be there for her. Unconditionally love your child! They need it! They are not us!
The Ants are frustrating in that they have chosen a public forum to try to convince people their criminal child is innocent! Your post is legit! The Ants are “abnormal” in that they should remain private and exhibit class in the stressful time.
They should be working to find Caylee, PERIOD! No media tour, no interviews other than to assist in bringing Caylee home! Ignore the stupid media circus! If none of the accusations about the Ants and M are true, they will eventually cleared! But, their actions are those of a defensive stance. That makes us wonder….
Anyone who has tried to tell the Ants to do what is right has been either fired or has bailed on them! I realize the actions of our children are tough to control or understand. However, the public charade the Ants are living is allowing all of us to see exactly what the problem is with M!
I’ll tell ya to hang in there. As they say, “This too shall pass” regarding your youngest! At the toughest times she needs you and I know you’ll be there for her! The Ants, on the other hand, are spiraling downward and out of control, heading to a major crashing in of the sick world in which they lived!
Alright, I’m just gonna be blunt because now I’m pissed. So if this sounds rude, I apologize now for it.
Most of us in the blog do research or multitask while we are here in this blog. Or we just simply miss a post or two altogether.
If a post is not answered, It’s not because it’s being ignored. Instead of getting all worked up, simply re-post it or ask if anyone saw that post. Don’t make people feel like they are obligated to answer every single post, Especially if they may have not seen it at all in the first place. Everyone is welcomed here and everyone has a CHOICE to respond or not to respond. Don’t ASSUME that just because no one has jump on and answered a post, that you are being ignored.
molly alot of x i post and no one answers or they answer later dont take it personall no one here just blatenly ignores anyone, we hope you decide to return,e1 here is very friendly and will apologize if feelings are hurt not usually intentional, i hope you change your mind and join us, i was looking for preg facts and had to take daughter to school them pc was acting up
paw@9:16 well said!
Pickles is ignoring my rocks that I’m kicking at her. She’s not here yet
LOL.
Here’s a news report from wftv.com
I don’t blame the mall for not handing over the video just cause BB wants them to. They could open themselves up to a lawsuit from that child’s family or anyone else in the photo. Now if they are SO sure that is Caylee, who are C & G looking for in California? Oh, right! Larry King.
Oh and if he wants tips why doesn’t he pay $900 for the tips he demanded from LE at the last hearing? They’ve been sitting there for a month and he hasn’t paid the bill or picked them up.
From wftv.com
“ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — Eyewitness News has learned that Casey and her defense team are asking a judge to force a Central Florida mall to turn over video from a security camera.
Jose Baez wants to get access to video from the Florida Mall that was recorded on November 16, the day someone reported an alleged Caylee sighting inside the mall.
The Florida Mall has refused to release the video.”
PAW69 - I think Pickles may be having PC problems. She’ll show up as soon as she can I’m sure.
M2C, If the Ants don’t stop this nonsense they will have lawsuits coming at them left and right. I hope the judge slams Baez against the wall. The State is fed up with him I’m sure. The Ants have once again proven their lies. First the mall, now California, which this supposedly sighting in California was eons ago. Little too late don’tcha think. People just want their 5 minutes of fame.
M2C , ahhh ok lol. darn it. She better hurry up lol.
M2C, And as for the mall refusing to release the video, I don’t blame them at all. They prolly looked at it and compared and went from there. They also have to protect these little girls. Especially from the Ants.
Now I’m wondering exactly what video BB is talking about. Still photos of the child are already out there. So maybe he’s talking about security video or something? Who knows?
It’s all BS.
I’m sure if the little girl was Caylee, they’d release it to the FBI. Obviously Baez is way over his head here.
Molly Bear ~ Dont’ be a silly gal! I am up and down from this comp chair more often then maggots drawers! Sometimes I have to go back and speed read to catch up to the convo. Easily can skip a post! Or sometimes it’s just people don’t know the answer?
It’s all good, we wouldn’t and don’t ignore anyone no purpose.
pickly bump said she might be off for a few days!
WE MISS JOO !!! 
MOLLYBEAR, you’ve been blogging with us too long to take offense so easily. you know how the blog works. you were not being ignored. but I can understand.
You started this morning by posting a very personal comment at 7:43 am and then about the stain and things at 7:54 am. Then 25 minutes later you quit the blog. I’m guessing but it may be that you feel this way because we “missed” your personal post. We didn’t mean to. As others have said, please draw our attention to it. We’re up and down from the computer. Posting thoughts of our own and by the time we get thru writing them 3 others have been posted. It happens to everyone!
So please there is no reason to take this personally at all. You know you are a valued friend.
And frankly it’s too early in the morning to expect us to be on our toes!!!!! not enough caffiene for me yet!
HEY GUYS WRITING BIG SO YOUL SEE IN AMYS FIRST INTERVIEW SHE SAYS M CLAIMED TO HAVE A MISCARAGE AROUND MAY 24, AND IT WAS FROM SOME GUY BRANDON, YEA I ACUALLY FOUND WHAT I WAS LOOKING FOR
m2c bbs talking bout vidio from mall with the little girl and the woman the mall wont release the vido to ants only to le
GO ANNA, GO ANNA
I don’t see why mall should have to turn over anything to the army ants….LE yes!
MOLLY??????????? come back!!! I sometimes feel ignored too, but realize everyone is so busy and jumps on when they can. I read each and every one of your posts just no time to respond to them all…
come back girl!!
Morning all…
why might bumples be gone for awhile? personal stuff. outof town?
HI PAMMY GIRL
Oh yah, MTC - I don’t have a new place yet so ya can stop lookin for the post. We did go look at a place last week but Sean thinks it’s shack wacky…( like me..
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and kris ( when you come back on i am curious why you said that letter released said alot for you)…
I know were on at diff times of the day but I will read here tonight just curious why you said the letter held alot of significance?
and kris ( when you come back on i am curious why you said that letter released said alot for you)…
I know were on at diff times of the day but I will read here tonight just curious why you said the letter held alot of significance?
I was just thinking BB may want more video than just the shot of the girl. What we saw was a cell phone photo so her photo is already out there. I think he’s asking for a mall security cam video - of that play area? Of the aisles around the play area? Of the parking lot? That’s what I’d want to see if I was looking for whoever was with the girl.
And you are right - the mall should not release the tapes to anyone but LE. THat’s why BB is trying to make LE subpoena the mall to make the mall hand them over.
anna - I posted that I thought Pickles was having PC probs.
BB translation….hot air balloon (gourd head)..LMAO
Hi CA
yah I agree with all the posts to molly. I can’t poss keep up with you all, especially with now the holidays, and oh dealing with broken washer… my child, um my heater going out in my car..lol
to get on lately here is a struggle… molly knows we love her here..I am wondering where the deblynn went to? she did say she would be back.. alot of peeps pop in and out.
ok anyone read my post to kris? I am wondering if anyone else thinks that letter is critical to the case?
i think the ants are taking things way to far, demanding this and that, claming le isnt doing thier job, bashing tim miller, flying all over to defend the scum bag m, bet larry king wont be about caylee it will be about how m is mom of the year, paddy needs to get back out here hes the only one who isnt afraid of the ants, i still wonder what c said to tim, after he came out to help what a bunch of ungreatfull peop. they deservr kidloosers who will rip them off, they just want someone to go along with thier sad shrade, all the right peps believe caylee is dead only the pep that want to make money are backing them!
anna @ 9:42 am Good for you! Finding that statement. I know how hard it is to find something like that!! And thank you! I don’t remember reading that or if I did I probably dismissed it as another M lie. Could be truth though. If she did have a miscarriage can any one of us at this point be sorry about that?
m2c~ok tx
Sorry, pammyliz. I’m lost. What letter?
in one of kris late night posts she said that letter from defense written about the “could have been accident”.. said alot for her I was responding to her post, hoping she’ll be on tonight…I don’t get to chat with her much..
anyone else think that letter holds alot of importance?
pammy@9:51 what x did you post to kris?
heres her post.. I was responding to her post hoping she’ll see it later on…
Kris “The Original” said,in December 10th, 2008 at 12:18 am As far as I’m concerned…it was all over once they came forward with that “what if” letter to the court and prosecution to see if they’d bite. They put themselves in such a position of guilt that backpeddling now by saying she’s alive somewhere just cannot fly for them. How can they feel doing a 360 will make any of the public believe them after that letter?
Kris and pammyliz - Maybe we should ask our Retired Attorney John how much weight we should give Lemon’s letter about “if she did it, it was an accident due to chloroform and PPD.” (That’s my summary from a poor memory of the letter. I think it’s right, isn’t it?
Without advice from RAJ I’d hazard a guess that it means they are not going for a true “she’s innocent, she didn’t do it” defense. Since the letter we’ve also heard about bi-polar (also from Lemon on NG).
The defense is screwy. On TV and by asking for security footage and tips of sightings BB looks like he thinks Caylee is alive and at the same time all we hear about defense strategy is that something’s wrong with M that made her kill Caylee. I guess we won’t know for sure what the defense will be until the trial.
yea when i first heard of that letter i thought she admitted what she did, yes i think letter says alot, if nothing happened why would the write the letter!
I meant to add, too, that what complicates the defense in our eyes is the ants’ insistence that Caylee is alive. I kind of feel like BB is hoping for a miracle and the ants’ efforts will find the child but he’s really preparing for a defense of “she did it but couldn’t help it.”
maybeee the whole defence has been trying chloriform and zanax so they keep forgetting what the heck they are doing, they have come out with some strange stuff
maybeee the whole defence has been trying chloriform and zanax so they keep forgetting what the heck they are doing, they have come out with some strange stuff
Oh and also the ants’ activities suit BB just fine - continually trying to plant permanent reasonable doubt in the minds of potential jurors. I’m sure he’s happy as a clam with the ants. He couldn’t buy better help with a billion dollars.
wish we could fast foward to after trial and see how many tips the ants will follow or announce after its done?
does larry king come on am or pm, want to watch but dont know if i can stomach c and that mouth, wonder if shel be licking and chewing her lips like a cow on there?
Who’s paying for this flight to Cali so that they can be on TV ?
Don’t they have this private detetive that is supposed to follow up on supposed Caylee sightings ?
What on earth do they hope to accomplish by visiting the resturant at this late date? Are they expecting staff to remember ? Or are they expecting the same exact diners to be there and they will see Caylee for themselves ?
I know, one shouldn’t think rationally when dealing with them but for crying out loud, do they think we and or the media are stupid ?
its amazing how they can afford all the flights and hotels i think the stations pay(not sure) they are just trying to plant reasonable dout imo
its amazing how they can afford all the flights and hotels i think the stations pay(not sure) they are just trying to plant reasonable dout imo
Concerned & Quiet - I don’t know who’s paying for their trip but I would not be surprised if Larry King’s show pays for the expenses of guests.
Where did you read about a sighting at a restaurant?
M2C, the restaurant sighting was talked about on NG last night. But that sighting was at the beginning of this just like the airplane episode.
Also WELCOME Concerned & Quiet!
I stand corrected. BB is still blathering that M is innocent. Now he’s doing “media research” to see where the best place is to have a trial so M will get a fair trial?” Try the moon, BB! Or maybe move it to hell. You’d expect those residents to vote her innocent but they may be just as evil as she is and vote her guilty! LOL!
From wftv.com this morning:
“Casey Anthony’s attorney, Jose Baez, said Tuesday he wants to make sure his client gets a fair trial.
Baez was on The Today Show on Tuesday morning where he continued to say Casey is innocent. He claims Caylee is still alive and no one should just presume Casey is guilty of anything.
Baez also said he wants Casey to have a fair trial and he’s working to make that happen.
“Currently, we are working on, right now, doing the research in the different areas, different media markets, to see exactly where’s the best place to see if we could possibly try this case,” Baez said.
Some critics say Baez wants a speedy trial before a body can be found of the missing 2-year-old, but asking for a change of venue may actually delay the trial.”
PAW69 - Thank you! I’m sorry I missed that. I had my mind on the “new” California sightings and wondered if the ants had chosen a five star restaurant or another MacDonalds? (Just in case they could get a free meal too)
the army ants are celebri-tits….in their own minds. Jet setting all over the states for interviews….they really make me sick. They arent’ lookin for that baby girl! They know full well she is dead. They are a bunch of scammin lying maggot makers!
They haver really let this whole situation go to their heads…especially the biggest “tit” of all “c-bag”….she thinks she can control everyone and every situation.
I wish caylee was alive, but IMO she is not.
BB said: “….to see if we could possibly try this case.” HELLOOOO, BB! Trial date is January 5. That is less than a month away.
The case will be tried - no possibly about it.
Unless your skanky client confesses and gets a plea deal.
anna…your the new blog whore….:)
Givin pammy a run for her money with the double posts…LMAO
CA - We’ve all said from the very beginning that we wish Caylee was alive. Now that we know so very much about the ants and about M can you imagine finding Caylee and watching her returned to them? I would spend serious time in the bathroom being physically ill.
C A - I’m giving anna a run for her money and my posts aren’t even posting twice. I’m afraid I’m the blabbermouth this morning!
I am going to go get something done. I am not mad. I am not ignoring anyone. I just have to get my butt out of this chair and do something that needs doing! BBL! And BBN and DNGM!
That’s Be Back Later, and Be Berry Nice and Do Not Get Mad! I will tattle to Pickles and she will get the Board of Education after every naughty blogger’s behind!!!!
PS MollyBear you are exempt. You can come back anytime without fear of the BOE (Board of Education)
IF Caylee was found alive, I seriously don’t think she’d be given to anyone in the Anthony family. Casey would obviously lose custody and Cindy & George won’t have a chance to get her either.
MTC - OMG I seriously think that childrens aid would be involved if she was ever found alive. I mean some serious supervisation and intervention.
She could not and would not adjust back to a normal life, whatever it was.
Boy oh boy, I would not stop crying if it could be true, and we saw her alive and happy! Tears…
paw…you might be right about that, but I see them getting a chance…the ants c and g. They are biological and I am sure they have rights!
Look how many times children are returned back to their abusers, time after time!
CA, I realize too. But with everything that has gone on in this case, I don’t think they’d have a change due to everything WE ALL know. There is just too much involved.
I’ll BBIAB. I need to get some stuff done. I’m not feeling well today either. BBIAB
paw…I agree with you but I doubt the state would. There is no proof that c and g ever hurt the baby! They are trying to cover up a murder, but put it this way, if baby was alive, then they were right and why would they be looked at as we look at them right now?
The would get her!
Thanks for the welcome.
y Fox Orlando reported yesterday:
— On Tuesday he and his wife Cindy flew to California for a national media appearance. They’re also going to be following up on a tip of a possible Caylee sighting. “We have to go where ever people think they see her,” said George Anthony.
The Anthony’s private investigator, Dominic Casey says the couple believes they saw Caylee in a restaurant. “A family was sitting there of Spanish origin…within the family was a little girl who they interacted with. The rest of the family spoke more Spanish than English…and the little girl only spoke English,” said Casey.
The man who called in the tip is an attorney. Casey says the man was dining with his girlfriend. “He and his girlfriend provided sworn affidavits. They had been prepared by an attorney,” said Casey. In those affidavits, Casey says the couple swore that they truly believed that the child they saw was Caylee Marie Anthony.
George and Cindy Anthony will be going to that restaurant where that possible sighting took place. They’re hoping to look at surveillance video captured of the child. George Anthony told FOX 35 that he was anxious to see what they find. “We’d love to have her home before Christmas.”
It’s been said again and again: so many little girls look like Caylee. It would be great if it was her, but realisitcally, it is not.
I would love to be wrong.
How stupid and unfortunate that the broke down B list Private Eye the ants “hired” is named Casey! LOL!
Oh, yeah, George. She’ll be home for Christmas along with your daughter and your wife’s mental stability. There may be a Santa, George, but even he can’t do that!
And THANK YOU Concerned & Quiet for the info!
I haven’t mentioned this before because it kind of gives me the creeps. But since we’re talking about it,my goddaughter is older now but I have a photo of her at that age in a simmilar pose and if the ants saw it they would claim she was Caylee.
It’s no big deal that the people claiming to see her “swear on an affidavit” that they “believe” she is Caylee. I don’t think they can be sued for what they “believe.”
(Can ask RAJ about that).
PAW 69 - Hope you do not get sick and that feeling poorly right now will pass quickly!
I get sick thinking about all the stuff I have NOT done for Christmas (and about Caylee of course).
Must get out of this chair again.
Love you all! BBL!
PAW69 and CA - Maybe if legally there is no choice but give Caylee back to grandparents (M will stay in jail for fraud and lying to police) I’ll bet there’s a prosecutor in FL who will make it his or her business to prosecute C & G for obstructing justice, lying, destroying evidence etc. Get a little jail time on their records so they can’t get Caylee. At least not right away. We can hope!
I am sure the person reporting really believes it could be Caylee and he did the right thing by reporting that to the authorities. I, of course, think they are mistaken. They cannot be held accountable in any way if it proves to be false.
sharebear - you’re right. the people might be telling the truth as best as they believe. but it’s just SO easy for people to SAY that! Why not call 911? Why not do SOMETHING to keep that family there until police arrive or get a photo or follow them? Why are all these tips always so tantalizing and yet NOT followed up at least in any way that I would try if I were in their shoes!
So are they tryng to tell us Caylee is alive and in Cali…and that they set all this up to gain money to erase there debts..I mean whut is goin in here..they are lookng for a live child and LE is sayng the child is dead..not only LE but the Feds…
Hi Concerned&Quiet!!!
It just seems ridiculous to me…just plain ol strange…I trust the FBI’s crime labs and the evidence they have come with..but the ants are insane…Kidlosrs is crafty..I still think its kidlosrs making these set ups of this child…I kno it sounds far fetchd..but Im sur they are gettng the pretty penny of donations to help find Caylee
If she is alive, then I would say there is some foul play here; but I personally do not believe she is. It is hard to argue with science (I am not a scientist) but if what I understand to be correct is there was either a dead person, or pig, in the trunk of that car.
I have not heard any reports of missing pigs, lol.
Hi e1,
So, I am confused. Are you guys actually thinking that these last two sightings could really be Caylee? I would love to believe that, but with all of the evidence, my heart says otherwise. I don’t think LE would throw out the sightings if they were not 100% convinced that she is dead. I think it is just part of a show so that they could possibly have a chance to put that reasonable doubt in potential jurors minds.
Yah a dead killr,Caylee or a pig…I mean…IF she is alive.they have to be doing it for money…but I dont think she is alive…cus of the maggots..Im sur they tested them I bet that is bak by now…I just think this sightng of Caylee all around is a little to coincidental..and the child only speakng english with a whole family of Hispanics..its just to set up…I wuld love to see Caylee alive and hope we do..but it seems to set up
Its easy to argue with science…whats hard to argue with is dna…dna dont lie!!!
I for one do not, but it is possible the person really saw a child that looked like Caylee. (Many young girls do)
True (But DNA is a factor in science)
Hi BringCayleehome..heck no I dunt think those two sightngs are Caylee..I think Caylee is not with us any more..
However I do think those “sightngs” are set up by kidlosrs..they have ppl all over the US from whut it sounds like even here in ORegon..I think ppl will go to great lengths for money..and xploit anyone including a child living or deceased…I think kidlosrs is crafty and makng quite the nest egg off of Caylee and her crazy grandparents
I still think it is a set up to get people (like us) to question our theories and beliefs.
Agreed, pickles.
Yes dna is a factor in science..but out of all the factors dna certainly doesnt lie…science did not create dna…
We dont matter to the ants…just themselves…maybe its to put doubt in the mind of potential jurors…but I think kidlosrs is in the bak ground..making $$ off on them..and Caylee…
Now even if the person who spotted the child really believes it is Caylee, it is also possible that someone is out trying to stage sightings. (Reasonable doubt is the only out for M)
You are right, Pickles.
I agree with both of you. Well, gotta get back to work!! Nice chatting, even if for a little bit. BBL
I just kidlosrs has been there for a long time in the scene…layng lo in the shadows..I think they have been making money off of them and Caylee..they are shady as heck..whutevr they did in Roseburg ORegon for that national vigil..wus not on the news..here or in ROseburg…so I just think they are up to no good..and I highly doubt they have the ants or Caylees best interest in mind….they are leeches..they xploit missng/dead childrn..all over the us..they make money off the names of missng or dead childrn..
L8drs BringCayleehome…come bak!!!
Sharebear thats whut Im sayng..that kidlosrs is staging these sightngs….and they prolly tellng c and g its to plant reasonable doubt when really its just keepng the donation funds for the search of Caylee rollng in..Caylee is huge its the biggest name they have had in awhile im sur…they are shady shady ppl…Im sur they set up Larry King for c while she just so happenly is in Cali…followng a lead of Cayleee…I just am to cautious and have a giant imagination to settle with this sightngs
I wuld love for all of this to be about money and Caylee be somwhere safe with zanny and the unicorn with the elf army..but you kno..it wuld be real elaborate and mystical..I think Caylee got dealt a harsh hand..and that she is above happy with no memory of her flesh xistance….
Anything about them would not surprise me anymore. The do not appear to be reputable at all.
I gotta go for now, Have a good day all.
Okie doke…Mollybear we are gunna miss you ….sorry you felf unwelcome..I hope that wherevr it is you are going..that the ppl there are as welcoming and nice to you as we have been….take care and God bless you…I will indeed miss you…sorry no one jumpd to answer your question fast enuff…IF you do return we will work on that…
L8drs Sharebear..YOUR OUR ONLY BEAR NOW..please come bak..we are bad evil vile ppl who dont deserve an xistance..we are unwelcoming and hateful…please see past our iniquities and short comings and return to us..
Hi, BringCayleeHome! Welcome!
No. I’m sad to say that I think Caylee is gone from this world. The so-called sightings are either attention seekers, sincere but mistaken people, or set-ups by kidlosers.
Here is how everyone in the US can be sure that the cell phone pic of a little girl in the Florida Mall is not Caylee:
1) If there is any possibility in the minds of Cindy, George, Casey, or Jose that this might actually be Caylee, would they have waited more than half a month to file for access to the video tapes? This happened back on Nov 16. It does fit in with their pattern of “lets wait a month before reporting the kid is missing” mentality, but if it was your child, would you have waited this long?
2) What possible reason could Florida Mall have for not releasing the video or at least allowing a review by LE? Because they do not want to become entangled in a lawsuit by the parents of the kid in the pic when LE is telling them that Caylee is not alive.
3) Cindy has stated that she is not sure the pic is of Caylee. For a woman who loudly proclaims the absolute innocence of her daughter, how can she be unsure in this instance? Cindy is not a waffler, she is on one side of the fence or the other, she would never, ever take a middle of the road, riding the fence, I can’t be sure stance on anything connected with this case. So, her sudden and uncharacteristic inability to tell if this pic is Caylee is a clear giveaway that she knows it is not.
4) KidFinders is connected to this sighting. We all know that if Casey’s lips are moving, she is lying. In the same vein, if KidFinders makes a statement, it is a lie.
It is the same with the CA sightings. Those sightings are from two witnesses who have no proof. There is not pic or vid evidence. None of the staff at the restaurant even remember the group that the witnesses say Caylee was with. None of the staff remember a little girl. And the witnesses waited several days before making statements.
Does it seem extremely coincidental that there were CA sightings (again coming through KidFinders) at exactly the same time the Anthony’s wanted to do a media blitz?
And why a media blitz now? With the trial scheduled for Jan 5, this is the last chance before everyone quits paying attention to news while they celebrate the holidays to try to confuse the issue with new “sightings” and various bogus info.
So anyways Mytwocents..I gotcha!! I fingered it out..thanks..in regards to that msg..jooh sent me!!!
Spacely word up!!!
You guys rock…fur real doh!!
sharebear you’re right about the DNA.
And I believe that DNA was mitochondrial -meaning from the mother’s side. So we know Casey, Cindy and her mother are alive. So it’s got to be either Caylee or Caylee’s
great great grandmother in that trunk.
Maybe we need to find a photo of great great grandma and start passing that around?
Oh hay shuld I clarify whut a “lurker” is..its a IRC term..it means…like somone who is familiar with a chat..or BLOG is not welcome or feels like they are not welcome so they lurk around reading hanging on ppls words wanting to or causing trouble making ppl fight or just being a headache..thats a “lurker” allright…
PPL get butt hurt over that word.
Its the pig they let rott cus they were to lazy to roast it up…
ANd the bag of finger and toe bones are the othr baby killr wus prego with b4…
Allright Fire flys…I always liked wall flowers..but the cencus chose fire flys…its qute..one half dozen or anothr…
Mytwocents…you have a response..Pie alamode!!
For the record, no one ever has to respond to my posts, it’s okay, I may feel like “chopped liver” sometime, but I will get over it, lol. Lilred, I’m sorry you’ve had a parenting roller coaster, as birth order, the public school system, and family dynamics has always been a pet interest of mine. I did education “gymnastics” to get my kid through school. She was labeled as processing info differently so it was hard to get the concept of math and reading, but once she did she did well. We did home school, private school, inter-district transfers to better schools, etc. plus she is an only child, which I think is important. ALL of her friends who were academically motivated were oldest or only children from 2 parent families. She was the exception from a divorced home. Just an observation.
Dan, please do not take offense, but the state will lay out the facts, and evidence of their case against Ms. Anthony. It is the job of the defense to poke holes in the facts and evidence presented to the jurors by the prosecution. Unless the defense is planning on putting Ms. Anthony on the stand (which they would never do) the jurors will never hear “the bombshell story” and I truly mean “the once upon a time story” of Ms. Anthony’s innocence as promised by Mr. Baez.
I would not be surprised if Mr. Baez is replaced by a more experienced criminal trial attorney. This is just my opinion.
As to Mr. Padilla’s comment about the body of Caylee Marie being found it is pure speculation. If the remains of Caylee Marie have in fact been discovered, and tested, LE would legally be bound to turn this evidence over to the defense under Brady. Mr. Padilla has a habit of speculating and in my opinion he should be very careful when expressing his thoughts about this case on national television.
Val my son too has concept difficulties..and he is the first child…he had a communication issue..but that cleard up..and he is great in math..reading is still the only hitch in his little giddie up but we are worning on it..I got real fortunate to move to this school district..it is a wunderful area and the public school he attends is the best around they are sooo focused on him and his needs..
Good morning Attorney how are you today? To bad bout Paddy..wulda been nice if that was more than opinion..
I’m glad you found a good school for your son, Pickles! I found that getting tutoring early on really helped get her over the concept humps. She’s graduated college and quite the writer now.
Yah he got Early Intervention at the age of 4 IF I wulda recognized it earlier on…instead of just thinkng he wus shy…or quiet I wulda enrolled him in EI sooner…it wus a God send..in one week he wus a different kid…communication wise..it wus a blessing..
I’m going to be annoyed at Paddy if he’s saying random stuff again.
Good Morning Bloggers
I really feel Mr. Padilla has other motives that have nothing to do with the Caylee Marie. He is very aware that Ms. Anthony made a fool of him, and he is not the type of person to take this lyng down. He wants revenge, however he brought this upon himself by involving himself in this case initially.
Xactly…she pulled one over on him and now he is out for her..He said he was returning to town to search cus he is spitefull!!
Revenge works for me, go Padilla!
This is not a game and if Mr. Padilla thinks he can say “checkmate” and win the game of revenge against Ms. Anthony he should consider saying “uncle” and move on.
Mr. Padilla is clearly turning this search into a circus, and not many people are buying tickets any longer.
Yah I figure somone has to be out searchng for her bent out of shape cowboy or not…I know tho that LE is out searchng for a body..thats for sur…
So how can Baez state things like they have a picture of Zenaida and Casey. Doesn’t he have to produce that at some point or can he make anything up for the public to create doubt and never have to be accountable?
Ms. Anthony will receive her penalty by a jury of her peers, not Mr. Padilla.
Keep the focus on Caylee Marie Anthony, and punishing the criminal who murdered this innocent child.
No its not a game…thats the sad part is soo many ppl are xploiting this child…and its not only harmful to the ppl closest involvd but to the nation who are paying to buy tickts..Its a tradgedy that it has gone on this long…
Say uncle…say it..cmon uncle…thats what I use to tell my little brothers…
The prosecution must turn over all discovery to the defense, and if the defense has discovery they too must turn this over to the prosecution it is the law under Brady.
Good point Attorney…focus on Caylee and her justice..not on Paddy and his side show…
Yah does he have to put up or shut up with the pic remark of killr and Zanny
Aww they have to share…isnt that sweet.
Attorney is bb gunna have to answer for all the crazy stuff killr did in the beginning even up until now all the bizaare statements and actions she has done??
Who can verify that the photo is in fact Zenaida? Where are the witnesses that can confirm that the photo is that of Zeniada and Ms. Anthony? Who took the photo?
I am starting to wonder cus of the emails in c email if killr put the ladder up to the pool left the bak door open knowing Caylee liked the pool and the ladder then killr went bak to her room stuck in her head phones and waitd…and purposly didnt watch Caylee..and Caylee drowned…
Ahhh
That’s what I want Baez to answer! Can they fabricate it?
Its prolly sum pic of her at a club with some random hispanic woman…plan ahead.
If she did that on purpose, she would have called 911. It was the drugs in the child’s system or possibly bruising she knew would incriminate her.
Yah..
The defense will have the opportunity to speak to the jurors during their opening statement. The defense will then be forced by the prosecution to prove the opening statement with testimony or evidence.
Dan,
Thanks for the words of wisdom. It is such a frustrating situation. It is hard not blame myself. By I realize, now at the age of 21, she was to accept personal responsibility. Even if means tough love on my part.. and I do love her unconditionally. But I can not/will not accept her behavior when there is a baby involved.
Also as a parent, you are right, we have certain expectations of our children, and mine definately was not of having her drop out of high school.., get pregnant, cancel a wedding 3 weeks before.. live with male strippers.. drug addicts and felons. I want so much to support her, but thant was MY problem before, I supported her, thus enabling her. Now that has stopped, she acts like she hates me. I guess I pooped on her parade. But there is my 2 1/2yr old granddaughter involved, and I would move heaven and earth to save her from harm… no matter what I have to do I guess, thank God, that differinciates(spell check) me from C….
Thanks again for your comments.. sometimes it feels so lonely doing what is right.
How long can a case like this be drawn out? Will it be years with postponements, or appeals?
Food For Thought:
If Baez is openly saying, “The public does not know the truth about the case.” and “When we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, ‘Now, I understand, that explains it’” and last but not least… “She would be vindicated.”
Then why is he turning around and saying he wants Casey to have a fair trial and he’s working to make that happen by, “Doing research in the different areas, different media markets, to see exactly where’s the best place to see if we could possibly try this case,”
H-E-L-L-O?
Why would they need a change of venue if everyone and he means EVERYONE is going to understand what happened? I assume that 12 jurors from any area would be included in his “everyone” speech.
If the case has such a reasonable explanation then bring it on Baez or shut your pie hole!
Attorney, you are on a roll today…
PAW.. you are so right. This is group of people who by our own means are trying to come to terms on how a precious child like Cayee could have been so horrifically neglected and discarded.
We all know by now that there are times when all of us are not answered/comented etc. But we deal with that. WE are all grown-ups. our agendas are clear.. finding justice for Caylee.
Like I said before, if your answers are not anwered.. repeat them.. we are not sophmores in highschool any longer.. Deal with the present and carry on..
For the longest time I was just a firefly, but a persistant firefly… I never once thought I was being snubbed.. I realized the personality of our fellow bloggers.. we all just want the same thing..
So no, I will not beg anymore… join us if you like, but if not, don’t blame us for not being able to answer everyones questions.
Honestly for the longest time pickes and her ‘joo’ drove me crazy, but now I truly love it.. and the person that says it…
We are only human…
I read several emails from Cindy Anthony and her brother, Rick. In one of the emails Cindy’s brother stated neighbors heard someone in the swimming pool on the afternoon of July 16th. If this is in fact true it could prove that the swimming pool may have caused the death of Caylee Marie. Again, this information is between Cindy and her brother and it is considered hearsay. I do know for a fact cadaver dogs are able to get an alert for the smell of decomposition in water.
RAJ said “Unless the defense is planning on putting Ms. Anthony on the stand (which they would never do) the jurors will never hear “the bombshell story” and I truly mean “the once upon a time story” of Ms. Anthony’s innocence as promised by Mr. Baez.”
RAJ… Doesn’t misleading the public like that fall under dishonesty? I realize that the jurors can only deliberate on what’s been brought up in court, however, planting false information in the heads of the public is a seedy tactic in my book.
Monday Morning Therapist
Mr. Baez has a way of showing his hand, perhaps he is spending far too much time with his client, and picking up some bad habits.
I am making a joke, and hope everyone understands that I respect most of our legal professionals.
Retired Attorney John, your 2:22 pm post…
Too funny because it’s probably not far from the truth! LOL
Please know that I too respect your legal profession. My nephew is a prosecuting attorney!
val = IF the public is made aware of the “promises” BB has made and broken then they WILL hold him accountable. (So we have to “help” the media bring those up later on near trial time! Hee Hee.
On the one hand he’s making promises to get them to go for reasonable doubt and on the other hand if he falls down on those promises those same people might well be pretty PO’d and convict!
So it’s a double-edged sword he’s playing with and frankly I think he’s such a clutz it will fall on this neck (or rather Casey’s so what does he care?)
I do think it again time to revisit the question of why is Jose Baez involved in this case?
In normal circumstances, a woman who is destitute (which is Casey, she has no money, no jobs, no prospects, no hope of future income unless it is tied to this case) would be appointed a public defender. Even if she had been able to make the initial payment of $1500 as claimed, Jose must have lost tens of thousands at this point in the case, money which is unrecoverable unless he is being paid for his TV appearances and he has a book or movie or other deal in the works.
I can understand why Jose would continue to work the case, as it gets him tons of publicity, which as a fairly inexperienced lawyer, he desires. However, does he personally have the money to continue with this case? I have to doubt it. Think of all the costs, the additional attorneys, the experts, the time in court, the security details for Casey. So, who is funding him?
I would also be interested to know if his client base has grown substantially during the last 6 months. Perhaps he is receiving so many new clients thanks to his newfound celebrity that he has no money worries?
Can anyone conceive of a story that would clear Casey in your mind, but which cannot be released right now to aid with the search for Caylee? Everytime Jose says that, I feel anger well up at his outright lies. There is no magic story. No matter what they say, no matter what story Casey tells, I cannot have any sympathy with her at this point for hiding the truth for so long. And by saying there is such a story, isn’t Jose admitting that everything is a lie up to now?
Mr. Baez is interpreting his client’s words to the public. Is it false information, no. If the client is telling the attorney this is my story, then the attorney is not misleading the public.
Hello every one ? I may not get a response to what i have to say ,,,But, thats ok , fine with me,
And oh! excuse my spelling,
All I want to say is that I too, watch Nancy Grace ,
The Jail house conversations, with TOT Mom & Grandparents
Now I have been observing GrdFather I would say,,, he doesn’t believe a word she says he is comforting her with kid gloves, reasons??
Now the GrdMother also she is pretending to be Duh!
Now, the Tot mom, Ohhh!! she’s doin’ alot of crying , blah blah OH! she seems so sincere what a great Actress,
During the J .H. visit She is crying & laughing at the same time Yeah! I would if i knew (haha) they were not going to find her I too would be crying & laughing with Joy ,,,,, and Grandma is laughing along with her ,,, anyone else notice this ??
(not going to find her ) meaning precious Caylee
RAJ said “Mr. Baez is interpreting his client’s words to the public. Is it false information, no. If the client is telling the attorney this is my story, then the attorney is not misleading the public.”
But, he is also stating that “When we have finally spoken, everyone, and I mean everyone, will sit back and say, ‘Now, I understand, that explains it”
He claims that will all come out in court. Is that not false information if he does not reveal what he’s talking about in court?
Lilred..I am with you on the tuff love..My mom wus a disciplinarian..and only used tuff love..and you know whut I am a ok today…all of her kids are..so I support you!!!
Sadly, Nanna there is no reasonable explanation for their behavior.
And if the pool wus involvd I wundr if she did it that way cus it wus easier and she knew it wus bait for Caylee..and cus she maybe thought the chlorien wuld clean Caylees system…I mean she wuldnt of nesacarily calld 911 if she set Caylee up to drownd…maybe Caylee drownd and she ended up havng to use the kidnapp story..
Or is a load of crap between c and her brothr…Just a farse that c wus tryng to elude to..the pool ladder..to clear killr of any intentional wrong doing.
No it is not false information. Mr. Baez is defending his client with the information she has given to him. The prosecution will go after Mr. Baez to prove his statements.
So he is just making his defense by whut she is tellng him gothca!!
He isnt there to make up the story he is ther to defend her story and see that she has fair representation..wether or not he is doing it in her best interest…
Baez must be counting on getting money through a book deal (possible advance) or paid interviews. I know I had to pay a $5K retainer and my lawyer went through it like water; every second spent was on the clock and I did most of the legwork on evidence. M told Baez she had 5K, so most lawyers would laugh and run if that was all the money they’d get. He’s relying on publicity to pay off for his career. I hope he has a great ghostwriter because he can’t seem to keep his story straight. Is she an innocent victimized grieving mother, or a mentally deranged abused person who accidentally OD’d her own baby? Or is he claiming both scenarios?
I still think him and killr are perusing the phycologcal imbalance index book tryng to find the one that best suits her…
He is just in it for the fame and noteriety..his resume is gunna be bangin with this one…all the child killrs around FLorida and the rest of the criminals for that matter are gunna be callng upon him once he keeps that child killr off death row…
Think about why the swimming pool ladder was still attached to the swimming pool. Why? Unless, someone was so panic stricken that they forgot to put it back on the secured wall brackets.
Caylee Marie may have died in the trunk of her mother’s auto and Ms. Anthony attempted to make Caylee Marie’s death look like an accident by putting her body into the sweimming pool later that afternoon. Panic was rising because the lungs of a dead body will not fill up with water. Ms. Anthony knew a coroner could tell if a person actually drowned by examining the lungs of the victum Ms. Anthony decided to bury Caylee Marie in the backyard until she could come up with a plan to bury her.
Bozo can’t take credit for the death row being taken off it was LEMON HEAD! NO!
He swooped in, grabbed the “needle” with his claws and swooped out.
NO MORE LEMON HEAD!
CA
You are right on the money.
Ahh that makes alot of sense…the whole pool theory…
Yah lemon wus her true night in shining armor..
RAJ - Hi, do you believe as a bunch of do on this blog, that Caylee died from a chloroform overdose? OR some kind of sedative?
Yes I do
Why else would there be such high levels of chloroform in Ms. Anthony’s auto?
Well that is the first question that pops into anyone’s head. However, chloroform is a highly volatile and effective cleaning agent as well.
I thought maybe it could have also been used by mama nurse or daddy cop to try to get rid of the smell!
Thank you bloggers. I must now attend to my wife.
I think its a possibility, but I guess there were the searches as well which really only points in one direction. The other thing is Ms. Anthony must have done away with the container she used to mix it!
It’s my knowledge that no container was ever found with traces of the mixture in it!
Me too..but then I get to pondering..wus it only chlorimix and how often wus she doing it..cus she wus only around Caylee for 10% of her life..(well according to c and g) and that wus for almost 3yrs..so that wus prolly her days off from “work”..that she actaully spent time with Caylee..and then whut about the times she had Caylee away from c and g for longer I mean how often wus Caylee actually druggd….It makes me sick to my stomach…
Oh welp adios Attorney..tell your wife she sure is understandng and that she is a great woman…Thank you..!!!
C~A said,in December 10th, 2008 at 3:21 pm
Me too but then the net searches on March 17th leads us to think otherwise…
Ms.Anthony im sur got rid of the cleaning bottles or I mean chlorimix container..I think its all connected…all of it..even down to the gas cans…
I think she wus a devious woman with no end to her madness…I believe she wus a sinister cat even at such a young age…but I suppose the life and glamour of it all will seduce some woman..even away from the most precious gifts on earth…she is a pit of secrets…a dark dark person..I think there is alot up her sleeve…
This was a murder! The obvious thing here is if it was NOT all so long. She also had to have done research somewhere somehow on the effects of chorimix in the system and traces of after death. Which leads me think she knew if the body was found they would know that she was being drugged. so she carefully thought out a way to get rid of the body and the evidence of cause of death way before she killed her!
C~A you kno I think Ms.anthony is a scamming butt hoe..I think she is bout the most dumbest female on the face of the earth…welp in the nation anyways…I mean she is right there with susan smith..did you see her prison online thing I posted the other day…Ms anthony too will be on there soon…
OKay I’m back for just a little bit, Long enough to keep kicking rocks at Bumpy lol.
As for the California Sighting, I could have swore they said last night on NG, This sighting was way back in July I believe or around that time period.
I really don’t care if it was an attorney who saw this little girl. We all know that attorneys lie as well. Not saying he is lying. But this is so bizarre.
C~A my ol man says drugs RX ones anyways get into bone marrow..he culd be wrong..but if so..oh yah..
She knows that whutevr Caylee had in her system can be tested for..and I have always believd thats why she hid her remains soo well..cus it had alot of secrets..not only the blood and the hair and the internal organs..all hold the keys to if Caylee wus being druggd…she knew it..she purposly has disposed of Caylee soo well cus of it..
*kick rocks*
PAW69 I think its kidlosrs staging these things…I mean cmon who wuldnt walk up and announce to the public thats Caylee Marie Anthony..I wuld I wuld march right up to that child and say hay where is your mom and grandma..hey Caylee wheres your grandma and grandpa..I wuld confront the ppl she wus with and say como te llama su nina…de nina blanca..okie dokie..aint nothng gunna let me walk out the place without makng a scene..I want to know if kidlosrs has contacts in Cali..like the ones in Roseburg..you kno the national prayer vigil?? cus if so that is interestng do they kno “missing children” in Cali also??
They better not bring the “sightng” child up to ORegon..I bet they do..I mean where wus all the national vigil held what cities…??
The Anthony family is planning a national prayer vigil for Caylee, as well as other missing children this coming Sunday evening. The vigil will be hosted at the Eastside Baptist Church and there will also be simultaneous vigils in Oregon, California and Michigan at 8 p.m. (ET).
I wonder what part of Cali it is??
Nothing about it in California news no kid finders vigil or anything…I mean thats a little bizaare..They dont even have it on there website….its all a scam…
We call that ScanDelous..round here..for real…its all to coincidental..I mean there wus no news about any prayer vigil her in ORegon..not even a national one for that matter..and here in ORegon we dont hardly need a reason to hold a prayer vigil…I stubbed my toe and we b havng a prayer vigil round here..no news not boo about it…so I doubt it wus real…
do young students study choloform in schools
i have never heard of such a thing ,and hey ! Im no young chicken .all these thing that were looked up on Googles , she wasn’t alone she is to dumb for that ,
How & why would a 22 yr old think of such a thing
I think someone was coaching her , she had 31 days to get rid of the body , she thought it over quite well,
and If she had been My Daughter I would have noticed if she was as stinky as the car (going bk when car was found) she is a crafty little thing she will end up in a pit , she is never going to Tell what happened to Caylee she is going to get her Mom & dad brainwashed in believing all these lies, ,
no -one is going to beat her, according to her.
i knew a few people who went through this life thinking (i got the world by the bag ) they had a rude awakening , she is never going to Tell , unless a pretty Husky Bubba beats it out of her Ha!
I lookd at Roseburg news..nothng…Whut city wus Caylee spotted in anyways..Hollywood? Cmon Fargn LA…prolly Oakland…we hear bout Cali news up here and I just havent heard a thing about that sightng cept here..and the net
Nanna I am afraid that you are right now that the death penalty is off the table..she will never tell..I dont think she will either…and c and g will go on claiming of Caylee trotting the globe to and fro…and proclaiming there daughters innocence…I am going to b glad when we hardly hear of them anymore…I am anxiously awaiting the trial….to see the evidence against her..to watch her stone cold face react when she gets life in prison…Im sure she will show nothng but a tear only for herself…and what has become out of all this..
Pickles: “I stubbed my toe and we b havng a prayer vigil round here.” LMAO!!! Thank you I needed that! Sounds like a good place to live!
Hey E1, been away 4 while. OMG, what Paddy said about LE “drop the ball”, mb meant drop the bomb? ‘member when Paddy was searching Little Econ river? Stuff was brought up from the bottom. Everyone got so excited it was Caylee? It was then reported that LE took nothing from the scene. BUT, the FBI took something. It was mentioned but not elaborated on and quickly glossed over. I bet that was at the direction of the FBI. I think they have our sweetheart’s remains. 1 month for test results!! To the day! Remember LE went to the Ants house recently? Nothing published as to why or what they talked about. I find this very telling. I hope Paddy is right. OK, gotta go. I hope to be back tomorrow. Curious to see what y’all think about this.
Pickles - Heya girl! I need to catch up on reading, but pressure is on, so I’ve got to finish end-of-semester grading. Then I’ll be free!
I heard the sighting was near Newport Beach (think I heard it on NG–not positive). Of course it was near a beautiful area!
Oh, it might snow here today! wow, that’s maybe a once-in-a-decade “happnin,” so it would be soooo exciting!
Be back as soon as I can. I miss the discussions.
Mytwocents..oh ya we have prayer vigils here like there goin out of style…and I never heard bout the Roseburg one..so I doubt it even happend..
Yur welcome..
Awww Tex goin soo soon..
sheesh
Don’t you mean scANTdelous, Pickles? And you said, “she is a pit of secrets…a dark dark person. . .” I think she’s probably done more bad stuff in the past long before anyone ever thought to suspect her. I bet everyone she’s partied with or known for the last four years is trying to go thru their checkbooks or saying, “NOW I know what happened to that $50 I had in my wallet two years ago!” Even though her mother caught her at some stuff - stealing from grandparents and her and even Caylee’s piggy bank and the pregnanacy couldn’t be hidden I will bet she’s been getting away with a lot of carp for years and years! Hopefully not another murder. Hopefully her first one will be her last.
PAW69 - They probably DID say it last July TOO! LOL! I mean why stop now? The new California one could be new or old or made up or sincere on part of “sighters.”
And I think it’s interesting that that so-called national vigil a week ago was in all of FOUR places - one of which was the Orlando church - and no one has heard a word about any vigil in the other three places. Probably Messy Bart has relatives there who will “swear to it” for a fee of course.
I know pickles. Sorry! But I still have about 500 typed pages to grade. It’s an avalanche of white sheets of paper!
But I’ll soon have a month off work!
:-)
I can’t wait to trial and see her at the defense table. Now, will she imitate an educated intelligent person in her gray pin striped pants and white dress shirt and “intellectual” glasses? Or will she jut out that chin and strut into court with the same expression she strutted in and out of jail? Or will she sit and cry like a child? I’ll bet it’s all three - and in that order - as evidence mounts against her.
MothrEve…sapponin?
I bet she is emotionless..maybe pinch out a tear or two..she will do the same as scott peterson and drew peterson..nothng..a lump on a turd..speechless and regardless of any of it.and IF they do have Caylees bones I bet she looks away..cus she hates that child…no connection…nothng..her fuse didnt spark at conception…
Newport beach is just a short trip down the map from LA where is Larry King taped?
m2c - Did you notice that C’s description of the stinky clothes she washed were exactly what m wore when she ‘dressed up’? Gray pin striped slacks and white dress shirt. eeeuuwww. I always wondered if they were the same clothes (&they were ‘making a statement’) or if they just got new ones.
Yeah, she looked just like an intellectual to me! Mirror image of all the profs I know! lol (more like - looks like a character in a story written by the profs I know!!! rofl)
His studio is in Los Angeles California..I wonder how far Newport Beach is from LA?
One hour 10 minutes
pickles - so true. But then as someone mentioned (novalis?), c gives m cues, letting her know the appropriate emotion for any given setting. When m sees c cry, she’ll probably join her.
I cannot get the image of c out of my head–the one where she’s just staring at m while m is running her mouth (video in jail). I’d love to know the thoughts running through c’s mind. c’s expression sure didn’t match what later fell out of her mouth.
How far is Newport Beach from Los Angeles?
A - Newport Beach is 50 miles (80 km) south of Los Angeles. Take the 55-freeway north to the 405-freeway north to West Los Angeles.
Isnt that convienent…
I think c has lost it..I think that she tried with killr and just feels now she has to convince the world Caylee is alive and her daughter is innocent..I think she will do it till her last breath..
c told killr she culd cry that it wus allright..I think she wus testng to see if killr really lost Caylee or if somthng more sinister happend..
pickles - I’ve been to Newport Beach quite a few times (relatives lived there). v close to LA (Orange County area, etc.). It’s the beach many would ‘choose’ to visit if they flew to Cali from FLA.
c is gone into full cleaning mode in this..instead of leavng the car and othr evidence alone she has single handedly takn it upon herself to cover up this crime..to make the nation believe Caylee is fine and killr has been framed..her family image and statute is more important to her than letting go..
hmmm, wonder if C&G will visit m’s “friend” who lives in Cali???? (forgot that guy’s name)
Oh yeah, in the video, c gave m many tests I think.
exactly! c is only in ‘defense’ mode, now. Besides what we see in the media, it’s quite clear after reading Sean Krause’s email exchanges with c.
George and Cindy Anthony are expected to appear Wednesday night on CNN’s Larry King Live. NBC’s Dateline is devoting its Friday show to the case.
TONIGHT on Larry King!
Friday Dateline will have a story about them.
m2c - I have to watch those interviews, even knowing it’s gonna make me ill. (but I’ll be taking notes!!!)
In fact, I better get back to my duties so that I “can” watch and later discuss.
Thanks everyone for the constant updates. bbl
In regards to this pool incident, I am just having a trouble with the time line.
July 17th was when LE did initial car search and took evidence. It was also when cadaver dogs hit on car and pool area in Anthony backyard.
George’s interview with LE, where he spells out his and Cindy’s “pool accident” scenario is on August 4 (Cindy’s first interview is August 1). His story revolves around an alleged incident that happened on or about the 16th of June when Caylee went missing.
George and Cindy have had two weeks to speculate on why cadaver dogs may have hit on the backyard area. They have also gotten records of Casey’s phone calls (re: her July 25 visit in jail with Lee) and know that there was a “flurry of calls” from Casey to both of them that day.
We are taking for granted that the “pool incident” is something that actually took place instead of something that George and Cindy may have made up after the fact as an alternate theory of “accident vs. murder” to explain any cadaver dog activity in the yard and since they may not be as confident in their efforts to implicate her friends at this point.
I am just saying that the entire incident is hearsay - it has not been corroborated by anyone to my knowledge other than George or Cindy. And, as we all know at this point, George and Cindy have big ulterior motives in everything they say. The whole thing could have never happened. Except on Planet Anthony. JMO
In the jail house videos m tells c that yuri thinks she is involved yadda yadda….c tells m that yes “HONEY” he thinks you guys did something to caylee?
This is when m seems to be interupted by someone and doesn’t respond…how convenient.
WHO DID C MEAN ABOUT YOU GUYS? M AND WHO?
Concerned in Texas said,in December 10th, 2008 at 4:21 pm pickles - I’ve been to Newport Beach quite a few times (relatives lived there). v close to LA (Orange County area, etc.). It’s the beach many would ‘choose’ to visit if they flew to Cali from FLA.
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Is that where the last sighting of Caylee was?
Nice restaurant I expect. Sounds like a nice family with kids in a great area! I say if it IS Caylee she’s better off there! NOT back with the insane ants.
Its nonsense…I mean..they are making fools out of themselves no one here on the West Coast is gunn sympathize with him…som of the most notorius serial killrs and child killers come from here..we seen it..no pitty…for your daughtr
C~A said,in December 10th, 2008 at 4:30 pm
Tryng to implicate..is all Im sur..amy tony whoever..zanny the tooth fairy
Yah Newport Beach is where they spotted Caylee..about 50 miles from Larry King studio
ya, maybe cause nobody else was EVER a person of interest!
Concerned in Texas said,”I cannot get the image of c out of my head–the one where she’s just staring at m while m is running her mouth. I’d love to know the thoughts running through c’s mind.”
Hey CIT… you’re not going to believe this but while you were wondering what was going through C’s mind… I was wondering what was going through M’s mind every time her parents said “We have to find Caylee.” I wondered if she was having flashbacks of a hidden shallow grave near the swamp or the dumpster where she dumped Caylee like a piece of garbage.
Yah Novalis the pool accident is just anothr farse from the ant cave!!!
oh so tonight is the big debut on LK! Guess I be up till 10 tonight….dang…
Pickles - I agree - Cindy never uses the word “you” to refer to her daughter as a singular agent when she can say “you” plural and mean a nebulous lump of possible accessories (to be determined later) to her crime.
I’m sure Cindy has been doing this for years, blaming others or groups of others for her daughter’s behavior.
I doubt her main concious even processes what she did to Caylee…
c has been blowing killrs negative actions for years it appeases c better to believe killr is the way she is due to othr ppls influence..
blowing off…is whut i ment to say..its better for her to blame others influence then blame her own daughtr and the way she raised her..its all just cover your own behind
Novalis: In some of the emails from Rick to C he says that he heard that a neighbor heard someone in the ants pool on June 16. C demanded to know who told him that and he didn’t say. So I don’t know.
She also said the cadaver dogs were “set up.”
That LE brought a dog that scents wrong FIRST and then brought in another dog. She knows ALL about cadaver dogs, you know! LOL!
Anyway just wanted to mention those things.
I can imagine G leaving for work before M and Caylee and M going right back in the house and ignoring kid or just putting her in the pool. Then “oops.” But then we have the problem with the shovel. It wasn’t borrowed til later.
So maybe kid was in trunk from 16 to 18 when she goes to house, backs into garage, borrows shovel. Later when she moves Caylee she’s wised up and brings her own shovel.
Also I don’t think she necessarily did a great job burying Caylee. I’m sure she put a lot of thought into it but what really worked in her favor was the 31 days before anyone even knew to look for the little girl. That was the devil at work. All of it was the devil at work thru M.
Diabla..for real..I dont think the pool plays in xcept to cover up the true crime
31 days in Florida heat wuld leave bones…just bones go on the Body Farm tour it xplains it all
Novalis you said: “I’m sure Cindy has been doing this for years, blaming others or groups of others for her daughter’s behavior.”
Yes yes and yes. M “could do no wrong.”
hi all any new news??? probably not just hoping, gonna go read some
I can see her doin it too..but whut Attorney said earlier made alot of sense…
His wife needed him so he had to go..
oh ya maggots and the heat especially if there is darkness….be nothing left within a cuple weeks!
Well when I try to deconstruct all of the “pool accident” theory stuff - it is all based on the grandparent’s testimony and speculative interviews with various media types (including L. Padilla who postulated that Casey might have tried to stage a drowing). Actually we don’t know if any of it happened. Casey might have just dragged Caylee’s body to the pool and by the playhouse to wrap her up better before she buried her. It might even be wishful thinking that she was staging an actual accident or staging an accidental death cover up. She might have wanted to make sure the pool hid her from anyone who might see over the fence.
And we may never, ever know for certain.
Pickles. yes bones could be left. But after 31 days of wild life and weather and rain etc could easily have been scattered.
started reading thinking about the ants flying every where makes me sick, the sightings are bs IMO they think they are stars now so repulsive!
I can see her doin it too..but whut Attorney said earlier made alot of sense…
His wife needed him so he had to go..
IF she did use the pool to kill her I see her settng up the ladder then leavng the door open for access to the pool then goin bak and popping in her head phones and goin online totally ignoring Caylee and biding her time…maybe hours she ignored Caylee for..then went and checkd…but I dont think the pool killd Caylee…I just dont..I think somthng more horrible..not that that isnt horrible to diliberatly set up yur child to drown..but whichever the outcome is what it is..that we have today..
Oh yah I know wildlife scavengers prolly feasted on Caylee (sorry) but its true..scatterd amongst the waste and enviroment…left to the vulchars and such..im sur Caylee is here and there..in the wind of the storms at the end of the summer..she is beyond hope I am sure.
Anna they are sik in the head…just happend to be followng a tip..sure..okie dokie..next will b ORegon..then Michigan..im sure
raj@1:35 i agree its been a circus and with all the stuff, like the deposition is crazy, does he even have a valid law degree? someone with my experiance with law matters can see he doesnt seem to know what the heck he is doing!
sounds like family vac to me, wouldnt put it past them probably gonna go to disneyland or somewhere sightseing while there, PAID for by caylee!
On what date was the jail visit ? recently?
I cant seem to find the date where G& sinndy
are sitting talking to her
well, she still insists that zannida G took the baby , well like N.G says each night, (why didn’t mommy call Police?)
as we all know we would be in a panick should a baby sitter not return with the child at a certain hour , even to go shopping , Park Restaurant ,1st I would call my parents , then certainly the police
is it 24 hrs like here in Canada you have to report a missing person?
NAH!! that bubble head knows and AIN’T GONNA TELL , the D.P in this case , no,, let her think about it for the rest of her life if she did this , like I said before the D.N.A will prove it, the hair, air, stain, samples, odor ,should they NOT find anything she will remain behind Bars because she is the last one to see her baby ,
N.G keeps drilling that Dr.?Cobi ,,,
Even if he knows any thing he is not going to reveal any information to N.G she may as well shove her finger where the sun dont shine
In cases of missing or murdered children…I say torture the lying maggot..why the hell should she be able to just sit there and lie….where are caylees rights…the rights of the children and the innocent. She has been actually charged with murder one and she is NOT talking.
There should be a law passed called
CAYLEES’ LAW….I’m serious.
Anybody who is charged with murdering a child and sits smug with her mouth shut after being caught in so many lies..She knows the truth and thinks its her right, and maybe it is…to keep her mouth shut, should in my opinion be be water boarded
They have enough evidence to charge her and indict her, and if she doesn’t come clean and tell em the truth and where she put the baby, TORTURE ALL THE WAY..in a case like this.. I say there should be a law to protect the little ones in death that weren’t protected in life.
What ?? I have no clue…
Pickles said,”I doubt her main concious even processes what she did to Caylee.”
I hope you didn’t think that I meant m was having any feelings of remorse when I said she may have had flashbacks. I meant she just knew where Caylee was at and that regardless of the snow job she was doing to her parents she knew that Caylee was never coming back. I picture her only thinking of Caylee as a clumsy garbage bag that she had to carry and dispose of.
oh no i kno what you ment!!
spacley@2:23 all these sighting are to inform the public for the reasonable doubt theroy if they accually thought it was her would they leave? i dont think so with as adamant as c is she would not let it go if she truly thought any of these sightings are caylee, its the guilt she feels over what happened to caylee by m that drives her oimo!
c~a i to wish some kind of law like that but i dont think there has ever been a case like this has ther?
I think michelle bart has been fueling c’s drive the whole time…
Not only a law but they need to come up with education and resources for these young parents..they need to start in the welfare system and the goverment programs..the wic office and such…county health clinics..they all need to be involvd..cus thats where the young ppl go for help with sex and pregnancies..the free clinics…planned parenthood ect..education is key to stopping this…
Education and resources made available to these young parents…
I understand what the army ants are trying to do with reasonable doubt…but they have gone as far as fliipin the FBI the bird on real forensics…
and EVERY sighting turns out to be false…Someone on NG said…beam me up scotty if caylee is seen all over the country, cause she keeps popping up in diff. states…
what I am trying to say is….reasonable is no longer in the picture of reasonable doubt.
I wouldn not think there is reasonable doubt just because every little girl in the world who resembles caylee is spotted…in the end..it’s never her!
That kind of doubt can only hold so much clout!
I think if bozo is smart he will be looking at more reasonable ways to plant doubt then all these stupid caylee sightings…oh and what about george…didnt he say he was gonna tell something “really” big on why they feel she is alive…and how close he feels they are to bringing her home? Or is that old news?
anna…exactly..there HAS never been such a bizare and twisted case like this in my memory. That is why I feel there needs to be a law for caylee!
I have a feeling the body is still mostly intact and somewhere close. I think Casey is laughing at LE for not being able to find it. Why do I think this?
1) Casey is a gloater and feels she is invincible, so she had no reason to dispose of the body, only hide it like a game.
2) How could Casey be smart enough to dispose of the body, yet so dumb, she made up a story of a person who does not exist? So dumb, she left all her tracks on the computer. So dumb, she was not even smart enough to clean the car before she abandoned it, or at least smart enough to buy a bunch of meat and let it rot in the trunk. So dumb, she never thought far enough ahead to realize her parents would be called when the car was found.
3) As Paddy keeps saying, I don’t see her going into the woods for any reason. However, the park theory seems completely ridiculous unless she did it in the middle of the night. Too many witnesses.
I think the chloroform is misleading. Why?
1) I don’t think Casey is smart enough to make it, even with internet instructions. However, I do see her fantasizing about killing her dad, who she was very upset with, and maybe Cindy too. Enough so that she would do the searches.
2) I think the searches about missing children were another fantasy project of hers in which she thought of faking a kidnap to scare Cindy into more money with less lectures.
3) I think the kid drowned in the pool through neglect. I don’t see any evidence that Casey is capable of killing anyone, but that she would easily try to avoid the bother of being with her child and zone her out enough that she could wander off and drown. The flurry of phone calls was her first attempt to tell someone what happened, then she escalated this whole mess into a child dissappearance to ward off blame. Once she was in jail, she spoke to Jose, who convinced her to remain quiet. That is why she says on the Jail Tapes that she is “learning to trust him”.
4) I think the chloroform was used to attempt to clean the car, but did not work, which led to her abandoning it. She probably remembered the cleaning properties from her earlier research. If she was trying to knock the kid out, I think it is much cheaper and safer to use an over the counter medication like Benydryl (sp?).
Just some thoughts I have about the case, not that any of them are right, but the one thing I know for sure: Casey is not a mastermind, I am always astonished she is even able to dress herself.
Spacely ~ your post was interesting. I have thought of the chlorie being used to clean but nobody just has chlorie in their cleaning cupboard…combined with the searches on how to make it, leads me to believe it was used on the baby! If there weren’t searches I would too believe it was used to clean out the trunk with c and g’s backgrounds they would know.
M might not seem to bright but she is caniving and manipulative and deceitful! Those traits are all that is needed to concoct an elaborate plan of murder!
why is e1 getting upset and leaving??? were a nice group, first mollybear now shandi?? wonder why???
and so far….she knows what happened and the world doesnt’????
anna ~ FULL MOON!…aaaaaaaaaaaoooooooouuuuu!
mmt~ the jurors are prob from zannis fam!
pickles - rofl Yeah, that’s right. C ‘blows off,’ while m just, well, u know! rofl (sorry e1, being bad today!)
[<< thought C-A would like that one, too!!!]
mmt - wow, well I won’t offer to trade heads. lol. Freaky thought about m’s flashbacks. When I re-watch videos, I’ll look for expressions. That’s our best chance to even try to understand any of this–try to get in their heads (which IS a problem in this case).
Novalis’s quote: “nebulous lump of possible accessories (to be determined later) to her crime.”
My response: Novy, if you’re not currently a writer, I’m gonna personally hunt you down and find you and put a Big Chief tablet and pencil in your hands!!!! You are an incredibly talented wordsmith.
[there, I’m better now. I’ve been meaning to say that for a long time… now about that answer, Novy! Writing & submitting work??)
Karma is alive & well. As someone pointed out, defense & the Ants cannot have it both ways. Can’t claim Caylee’s alive and also claim casey’s ‘mental’ excuses. (they should be claiming “heart” excuses, since someone removed m’s heart at birth).
novalis - regarding pool — all hearsay from C&G except neighbors’ report that they heard splashing in the pool that day (of course, that’s also hearsay but from neutral source, we’d assume?).
rember g said they were under survelance and they knew who they were? hmm…
you are correct C~A about the law …
i still think some-one should beat the s–t out of her until she talks , she is being pampered too much I really think the police were not (hard )enough on her during the interrogation ,
one question which sticks in my mind, the police:”do you think Caylee is in a better place “? what the hell did he mean by that?
“have you ever hurt your daughter “? Hellooo ???? she didn’t go looking for her or she Murdered her, whatever,
The pool? I DONT THINK SHE WENT NEAR THE BACK YARD ..
no it didn’t happen there. she could have been (SEEN) caught , bury her in the yard no
back the car in the driveway ?. remove the body. the DOGS hit in the yard it may have been some other newborn babys she had who knows she is an evil, deceiving crafty , smart B—h and i cant believe only a Mother would love her
ya g said that a long time ago anna…but also something recently….guess there still watching caylees life unfold with her new fam! Not quite time to go in and get er yet!
Its all so damn ridiculous! Makes me anxious just thinking about how they manage themselves and how stupid they sound, act and are!
anna - oh yeah - g said they KNEW who had Caylee and were having them watched. Guess the watchers must’ve blinked, and they got away! darn it!
… what a joke. I’d love to type up all the ridiculous ideas C&G have spouted and spewed.
But the truth is that they’re not in a court of law. They seem to be free to lie and deny continuously, with a sprinkling of obstruction now & then, all with no consequences.
No news media will hold their feet to the fire, out of sympathy, and they know it and are taking full advantage of it. All at the expense of Caylee’s sweet memory.
That is just wrong! I wonder if c apologizes to sweet Caylee at night, “I’m so sorry baby but I have to save your mother right now.”
….As pickles would say, UGH!
Anna everyone is gettng upset and leavng us is because we are evil horrible specimans of human beings…thats why..they hate us…we could not provide what they were lookng for..so they bash us and run…its okay you notice every time somone gets mad and goes we get more fire flys dropping in??
IF by survielance you mean the tooth fairy keepng an eye on an orange RX bottle riding the magical unicorn all around toting Caylee in its butt..then yes they are under survielance
m2c - Yes, Caylee would be way better off with just about any other fam in America!
(And yes, Newport Beach is a v exclusive area)
But alas, we all know (bc of FBI & LE) the sightings are either faked or they come from well-intentioned, caring people who are mistaken.
Tex I never thought of that c apologizng to Caylee every night..isnt that sik..I mean for petes sake if that were true..Cmon lady give it up let her rott in her own feces I mean..give it up….we all kno you cleand up your grand daughtrs juicy corpse liquid we all know you switcha roo’d the brush..we all kno you are protectng your daughtr…prolly shuldnt of let her leave the house with her…I mean if they had Caylee 90% of her life why let her leave with killr at all..
I think they are fake…a scam…a set up…somone aint playng on the up and up in these sightngs…even if they are from way bak in the summer..seems to me there wus more than one sightng from various locations…and if the tapes are just now coming out then LE and the Feds have investigated them and kno them to be bunk..but that doesnt mean the ants and kidlosrs know there bunk..of course there not bunk…cus Caylee is alive and ppl have called in tips..see here we go to the one in Cali…I wuld really like to know who called Larry King…did they call..did michelle bart call..did Larry call them??? I wuld like to kno…
Seems shady…just seems shady..
C-A - lol at your 4;47 post. and cracking up at you howling at the moon!
Dan - Excellent post way up above from this morning (didn’t note time). Your students are lucky to have such a dedicated teacher. No doubt, you are making a difference in many lives.
pickles - lol at unicorn. No, we’re not evil.
People are already sensitive bc of the issue we’re discussing. Raw emotions. I definitely believe Mollybear will be back. She knows how much we’ve enjoyed her company (her humor, offer of prayers, and contributions in general).
I plan to just give Molly the benefit of doubt and assume she’s had a bad day (we all have them). She knows she is welcome to return, as if nothing ever happened. Just a howdy will do!
I kno that killr said that nanny had buku bucks…rollng in the dough…So of course nanny could take her whole fam out to dinner in Newport Beach Cali…of course..she wus loaded…rich broad…of course..and of course Larry King is totally on the way there….I mean are they there looking for Caylee now or are they doing that after the show…
Molly got all butt hurt..over nothng..Hi Molly good golly!!!
Tex aint you got homework to do?..hey you ever been bit by fire ants? I watchd Animal Planet one time bout fire ants..in TX!!! Them little critters look fun!!
pickles - I envision c talking to Caylee a lot, trying to offer her excuses for m, such as “she didn’t mean it, honey. she was hanging out with bad people.” and offering apologies all the time, “I’m so sorry, honey. I should have protected you.”
I could be wrong, but I do believe that regardless of c’s actions, she did love Caylee, and still does (even if in a dysfunctional, ‘backwards’ way).
I doubt larry called….frankly at this stage in the game I am surprised they have them on any show at all….it’s all the same bs. Why have em on spewing their doubt and denial especially if they are even being paid!
I say michelle bart is doing all the leg work…c and g just have to dress up and take flights cross country and go to make up! They after all are CELBRE-TITS!
I will be interested in the kind of caller questions that come out….this is the first show that they have callers isn’t it
CALL PICKLE….CALL EM!
pickles - ouch, yes, those little fire ants hurt so much! Mounds of them appear each summer. A few years ago, a little fu-fu dog down the street was killed by fire ants. Gotta watch little kids around them, too. (this, along with gators who live in my neighborhood, too! Yikes!)
Yes, I took a quick break, but must return. I’ll grade some more and take another break and be baaaaaack. (must be the full moon! I’m in a goofy mood)
Oh yah she had to of loved Caylee to care for her 90% of her life..that is love unconditional love…she loves Caylee more than killr..its sad cus if she defends Caylee she puts killr away ..I think she wunts to love killr as much as Caylee for the name of her family so she is tryng to fix this…she will not be known as the woman who raised the woman that killed Caylee Marie Anthony..she is going to take this to her grave..I doubt she will ever go and visit killr…cus I think she loves Caylee more..she just cant stain her image..by havng a child killng daughtre. does that make sense??
CIT - I truly believe that g and c actually loved caylee too! But they sure have changed their tune and are only concerned with the living!
C-A at 5:44 — ROFLMAO … ‘celebre—-you know’ rofl. You are on a roll today. Full moon indeed!!!
ok, gtg, laughing all the way. bbl.
by cit….bbl too..gotta bath the little stinkers! oh ya and find a house!
Oh hay I got to go too…my son is almost out of escuela..adios mis amigas y amigos!!!
Pickles - Yes, I agree. C is working tirelessly, in an effort to save what’s left of the family. But yes, she also wants to save face.
If c ever does embrace the truth that m killed Caylee, she very well may never speak to her again. She sure couldn’t keep up the ruse 4ever.
bbl.
pickly…you calling LK? What is escuela?
im having some major fam prob right now wish i could share very upsetting, so if im off on posts plese forgive, really wish i could share you all might have great advice
http://larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/10/anthonys-we-wont-turn-our-back-on-caylee-2/
There ya go guys…go say a few words on Larry King blog about caylee.
CA, escuela=school (I think)
my oldest dughter comitted suicide 2 yrs ago, my daugter has bad depression, is going thru a really hard x im verry worried, you know how things go?
meant my oldes daughters dad comitted suicide, sorry
I am so sorry, anna
I know I don’t know you, but my heart goes out to you and your family.
my girl is having some really bad x but she thinks what i tell her im only a bitch, im verry worried, i called her aunt on dads side also her bro, if she didnt have such bad depression or would take something for it i wouldnt worry so bad but she wont, very frustrating!
thanks all guess its comforting to share with pep who dont knoe personally, id hate for something to happen, you never know how fast it really can til you been thru it!
anna - I’m very sorry for your entire family. Sounds like you’re right to be so concerned. If she won’t seek help, and you think she could also be suicidal, perhaps you should speak to a counselor or medical doctor. For something this serious, i’d probably go to a professional, esp since daughter isn’t within reach.
Can’t imagine the stress this puts on you, though. What about one of her siblings or friends? I hope someone can reach her and will pray for you and your family.
{{{hugs}}}
Anna,
My deepest sympathy to you, and your family.
Anna your daughter may have a clinical depression that could be explained to her by a professional doctor, hotline, or psychiatrist. Antidepressants taken temporarily can very often rebalance the brain and there are some fast acting ones that would give her a clue if that was the problem. Good luck and remind her, if her arm were broken she wouldn’t tough it out, and her brain is just another body part that needs healed.
thanks all have been on phone with all family from all sides, will call some prof. if i think nessary believe me, not afraid of daughter worried for g/kids, and her believe me i can be small tornado who can be reconed with, just very concerned, but after phone con, am a little better:)
val~ my daughter when in teens took acid, had a bad trip cince then is dethly afraid of meds, doesnt matter if it a tylenol, she thinks it will have the same effect, somex its frustrating, because she wont takr rx perscribed because of fear,
amazing how you all were there for me thank you from bottom of my heart
i really appriciate thet, you are all very kind, no wonder we are all in support of little caylee! i think things will be ok, i just wirry!
val@7:35 accually she broke her tailbone last yr and did tough it out, stubborn gal, after talking with fam, i hope it will be ok, i am a strong person ill make it ok!
That’s really difficult, Anna, I know how medicine can create anxiety, which is why knowing it’s a temporary resort may be comforting. There are some older ones with a good track record, but each person responds better to some than others. I’ve seen some amazing turn arounds, but taking a cautious approach is always good. Glad you are feeling better with family support now. St. John’s Wort even works for some and it’s over the counter.
wow, i was way supprised by all support from here THANK ALL i will never forget! means alot to me i have friends watching out for her so ill know if any think changes, also have fam on alert1 thank all for support for me very greatfull! now back to caylee:)
Anna…in the wise words of Tupac Shakur..keep yo head up!!! I have clinically diagnosed OCD..ok ther…allright..everyone knows…one time when I wus first diagnosed my Doc..put me on this ol fashion grandpa medicince…it gave me tracers and hullicinations..I never took it again!! My ol man likes to mess with me and mix up the vegetable cubbord…uhhh…Since I quit smoking I stopped washing my hands constantly…
Oh sorry Anna I said that after yur post..anyways..to Caylee…she is adorablee..I cant look at her pixs no more..she is too sweet and defenseless, so precious and beautiful..she is absolutaly intoxicating..her eyes her skin..even her perfect bangs..just mezmorizing…the beauty that she possessed wus magnificent….And the thought of what killr wus xposing her to is just to gut wrenching..it makes me sick when I look at her pixs now…ughh…
It doesnt just stop at looking at her pixs when I look at her I think of what she went thru what life for her was really like..And I just dont know if I believe c and g anymore…I sure as heck dont believe killr…
Wus it soo good for Caylee..I mean those emails from whoevers pc and the ones btween c and her brother..those emails are very tellng of c and g’s life between those other two ppl..of the cheatng the lying the wasting of money…what was it like at c and g’s house..id imagine lots of yelling and screaming and tension round the clock..did c shelter Caylee from it..poor all her time and effort into loving Caylee..her outlet? What was Caylees life truelly like..is it what c has told us and shown us in the tour de ant cave? I just poor Caylee…no one even knew who she was before this..and maybe somone needed to..maybe somone shoulda looked twice..or maybe a neighbor shoulda been a little more nosey…poor Caylee..If g wus cheating and he had moved bak into the house..I mean what was it c and Caylee only..I mean nothing makes sense anymore…those emails…the way they talk..
Do the Ants always wait 30 days to do anything?
Heck yah so the body has more and more time to fade away into the earth and be scattered to the wind..the longer they rant and rave and run wild the more likely Caylee will not be found..unless Paddy wasnt just talkn out his boochie bout the body…then Muahahahaha
I’m gonna watch Larry King next. I wanna see what slips they will make.
lemme kno!!!
Whut is NG on??
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/28156838/?GT1=43001
Aww that is soo sad..when my little brothr wus in the Marine Corp..he wus in the passenger seat of a car on the way home from a car show in LA and it wus late at night..they were drivng down I-80 and they struck another Marine who wus drunk in the middle of the hwy committing suicide..my brother was tore up forever over that one..that poor Marine…that poor family…
My little brother still has to take sleeping aids to sleep at night..is wus soo sad..that poor Marine
AKkk the news is just horrible..everywhere..whut the heck!!
http://www.kptv.com/news/18249114/detail.html
Only in ORegon!!
OMFG, Cindy is full of it.
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Help Find Caylee Media & Resources
For all media inquiries please contact
Michelle Bart at (626) 644-3472 or
For all media inquiries is that a suttle way of sayng they will go on television if askd???
Watching Larry King on CNN
That means they need more 15 minute fame.
Yah whut is c sayng..more fantasy mumbo jumbo??
Same song different day. George still can’t look at someone in the eye.
Is Larry King bitin into it..or is he like yah whutever..this is the West Coast b~~’s cant fool us…??Hes always real nice and all but does he look fooled??
Cindy just said that LE told them that they have no motive of why Casey would have killed Caylee,that they feel it was an accident and Casey is just scared and is covering it up. Now she is saying they just got a tip at 4pm today about a sighting in TN. UGHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!
He really doesn’t look amused at all at this point.
Here goes the calls.
Okay and we believe that LE said this cus she is sayng it..okay sure..and now Caylee has gone from Cali in like one day to Tennessee..she is such a liar..a liar..I mean cmon…LE told her they have no motive as to why but they think its an accident..I heard LE say that mos ago..when the limited immunity was on the table way bak when..they are stupid
She just lied about the rotten pizza and the 911 call. It’s so messed up that I can’t even repeat what she said.
She said she never changed her story from death in the car to rotten pizza, she said that she had stated it smelled in the car.
When questioned about the dead body comment, Cindy said, “I said the car smelled”. They just played the 911 tape! She also said that when something spoils in the fridge she says, “It smells like something died in here”. I’m sure that makes sense to use that phrase on a 911 missing child call. LOL
Apparently this Cali. sighting was 2 weeks ago. hmmmmmm……..
Thank You Val lmao , ughhhhhhh Cindy is making me sick.
OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGG, GEORGEEEEEEEEEEEE NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
I mean I aint sayng that the West Coast is any more knowledgable then any other region in the nation…but we are real keen to the whole I wantd to go party so I killd my kid thing…I mean the green river killer..the zodiak…ted bundy im afraid the list goes on and on for the West Coast..we do not get fooled easily when it comes to these matters…them poor children in Idaho Dylan and Shasta…
G denies the smell also. He knew what was in that bag, did he eat the pizza because LE said it was an empty box.
What did g do???
OMFG , Cindy can’t even get Casey and Caylee’s names right.
They are soo pathetic..they cant erase what they have already said..they are fools
Brb
You know what, They are seriously making themselves look worse than what they already did.
OH MY GOD. I havent read thru all the blogs here, but PLEASE tell me that George didnt just say that he knows the smell in the car was a f*cking PIZZA!!! i cant even believe this.
OH MY GOD. I havent read thru all the blogs here, but PLEASE tell me that George didnt just say that he knows the smell in the car was a f*cking PIZZA!!! i cant even believe this.
I tell you what, they are making thissound like the “kidnapper” travels a lot. They also feel it’s a different Zenaida.
Emms, That’s what he said.
They are on Larry King right now.
You know NG is watching this show too. As well as the State I’m sure.
Cindy Anthony is stating that saying “something smelled like it died” in such places as her refrigerator is a common statement she says when something doesn’t smell right. This statement was said in reference to Ms. Anthony’s auto, because it smelled. Cindy did not reference the smell to that of a dead body when she called 911 because she actually believed it was a dead body.
George is stating that the smell in the auto was rotting pizza, even though George told LE that once you smell human decomposition you never forget the smell.
How this family can look into the eyes of America and tell lie after lie is actually sickening.
They keep saying the Zenaida who was AT SAWGRASS at the same time Casey was, is the wrong one. At least she exists. I wish LKing would read this blog before he sits there and nods. Casey’s Zenaida cannot be located by relative, friend, address, or random witness. If Caylee is dining in affluent Newport Beach, they should let her stay there.
I can’t even believe i am still watching this BS. they look like total and complete friggin MORONS. Especially George– he hid those puppet strings real weel under that shirt though….and Cindy needs to keep her MOUTH SHUT. WOWWWWW.
Val, Cindy said they got a tip at 4pm from TN. Now.
hahaha i knew the jab at NG was coming, “the only reason ppl watch her is b/c they dont have a local media outlet”.
George seems a little dopey, no? I wonder if he’s on meds now too….this is terrible, I cant believe their ’spokespeson’ allowed them on nat’l tv like this.
yea, Caylee is really being shipped all over the country. They said originally the only reason they were stopping in on Larry King was b/c they ALSO got a tip in Cali. Now Tennessee?
4pm today, a tip from TN. Go figure. Are you flucking kidding me? UNREAL!!!
Annnnnd the photos at the club were publicity shots for the club for which M was paid? First I’ve heard of this…
sorry for all the commentary, I am just reeling here
The fact that everyone else is on the same page about this case gives me hope for the jurors. A live LK Blog and they are critical as well. Huh, imagine that.
No wonder they can’t find Caylee, that kid is jetting all over the place. It is so creepy knowing the truth and listening to this very careful deliberate lying. g’s eyes were fluttering away. NG did comment on Baez’s body language. He clearly shook his head no when he stated Casey was innocent.
HI ALL, LONG DAY AT WORK
I DONT UNDERSTAND WHY LARRY KING DOESN’T CALL THEM OUT!!! WHY NOT? THESE ANCHOR PEOPLE NEED TO BE MORE FIRM, ISNT THERE JOB TO PUT OUT THE OPINIONS OF THERE VIEWERS TO THE GUESTS? THERE RATINGS WOULD GO THROUGH THE ROOF IF THEY WOULD STOP PACIFYING THESE PEOPLE.
Emms, No worries, This blog is gonna go 100 mph now lmao.
AND ANOTHER THING THESE INTERVIEWS NEED TO BE SHOWN TO THE JURY RIGHT ALONG WITH THE INTERVIEWS WITH LE AND FBI.. IM SO FREAKIN MAD RIGHT NOW..
RAJ, What do you think about this? What Cindy and George have said on the LK Show? As an Attorney, what is going through you mind right now? I’m just curious on an Attorney side of this.
It boggles me that Cindy couldn’t even put Casey and Caylee’s names in the right place in her sentences.
Paw, if they got a fresh tip, I’m sure they will rush right over in a few months to check it out. They have to make sure any camera footage has been taped over. And they haven’t even picked up the tips that are sitting there with LE. They also didn’t miss LKing with Caylee spotted in Tennessee, guess she can wait.
PAW- they need a freakin attorney to SHUT THEM UP!! Man, I wish my PC was in my living room, not up here! I have to run back and forth ahahha!! My boyfriend thinks I’m nutso- he’s trying to watch UFC, I’m like noooooooooo leave it on CNN!!!! haha!!
OMG… I am totally outraged by C and G’s lies on Larry King. I have no respect for either of them. Now G is saying the smell in the trunk was garbage and he actually saw it. Good grief… did he forget that the world could have viewed his interrogation tapes where he said the manager of the tow yard threw the bag over the fence into the dumpster with them looking in it? LE retrieved the bag the next day. I’m sure he will say that a homeless person dusted the maggots off the pizza and ate it during the night. I’m sitting here still fuming!
Val, That truly makes me sick to my stomach. I can’t believe they are doing this.
Sorry… make that without them looking in the bag.
larry’s BLOG, said they could talk to cindy there but so busy i can’t find if the ants are there:
larrykinglive.blogs.cnn.com/2008/12/10/anthonys-we-wont-turn-our-back-on-caylee-2/
They should have had Melich and the other investigators on as surprise guests. They would have a lot to say about unfairly leaping to conclusions about M.
I highly doubt they are there, seriously. And if they are, they won’t be for very long.
I thought they’d be taking calls too! I bet they couldn’t find callers with 50 IQ’s.
At least the woman called got G to lie, with his fluttering eyes, on national TV.
Hey, Hi Mamabear!
This is truly obstruction and it needs to be stopped.
HEYYY VAL
Oh right there were a couple of calls, I was focused on the Ants.
Cindy Anthony stated that Orange County media has been very fair in their coverage of Ms. Anthony. National programs like the Nancy Grace Show and national publications have already convicted Ms. Anthony of murdering Caylee Marie.
Mr. Baez your motion for a change of venue is an uphill battle after the prosecution airs this Larry King interview with Mr. and Mrs. Anthony.
Excellent point Raj! Baez is rushing to the store for duct tape I’m sure.
She also stated that M had no mental problems on another interview.
George you have have committed perjury on national television.
Retired Attorney John, I loved reading your comment about Baez having an uphill battle for a change of venue. Thanks for that great piece of information! YAHOO!
I hope he’s finally held accountable!
Everyone could tell how {{{{nervous}}} George was while telling his BIG FAT LIE!
RAJ- regarding the perjury….can anything be done about that? or does it not come into play, as he already gave his sworn statement to the GJ??
G also acted like he was in LE, YEARS AGO, so he sorta understands where they are coming from. In the other interview he was like their buddy who was really knowledgable especially about cadaver smell.
RAJ, Can they bring these interviews into court when showing credibility from the Ants?
It is apparent George and Cindy Anthony want to discredit all of the testimony they gave to the authorities. This rehearsed scam is a common practice by defense attorney’s when you have testimony from witnesses that will incriminate their client. GET THE TESTIMONY THROWN OUT OF THE TRIAL. How very clever of you, Mr. Baez.
Good evening everyone… long day at work, and only caught about 25 mins of larry king… I dn’t know what to say. again, speechless.
shaking my ehad in disbelief mostly for what G said about it was a pizza and garbage? wow I did respect this man… but,, well C I expected alot out of her. I will re-watch the show again at midnight to see what I missed…
the sightings of caylee.. rubbish! if there were truly sightings of this child and people took time to cell phone snap a picture they had plenty of time to flag down a sec officer or call 911. if they truly truly said it was her, and if they did affadavits… then how come they took no action on it??? if it was me I’d be yelling through the store
G also said, after he smelled the car/pizza/garbage that M might have run over a dead animal, and M said he must have run over a dead animal. So, that unlucky car, I wonder if all their cars reek from their driving habits.
Val, I wonder if they use to go on cow(squirrel) tipping rituals alot? LMAO.
Mr. Baez is popping bottles of champagne, I assure you. George was a key witness for the prosecution now he is nothing, but a liar. His testimony is useless.
and further, george looked uncomfortable, he kept looking at C, he teared up at the vids and shot of caylee… he is truly a torn man, but is standing by his wife and i guess M’s attorney now, for fear they are all in trouble I suppose. Like I said I missed a good half hour of it, but from what I saw. I saw a broken man in G , C is just covering it all now…and, its remarkable that caylee is jet setting all across the nation from state to state and showing up at malls, places just mobbed with people and xmas shoppers.. how ridiculous!
Wow, that is really interesting RAJ. I thought that all the lying they were doing in public seemed bizarre, and wasn’t taken seriously because they weren’t under oath. None of them have any credibility!
You know what’s real sad. We can look at these picks and KNOW it’s not Caylee. Yet C & G always say (it might be) Caylee.
Exactly, Val would you believe anything George or Cindy Anthony said? The jurors will discredit his testimony.
I’d be a nervous animal if I lived in that neighborhood, PAW! No wonder they have indoor dogs.
Why would people even waste their time taking pics of a little girl if they won’t even take the time to get a pic of her face instead of a side shot?
hello everyone!
Larry King show…….just as I expected….a BIG JOKE. C couldn’t let G get a word in edge wise, even when a question was directed to him, she’d butt in. G only looked at Larry King directly ONE time, that I noticed thru the whole interview (talk about body language!). G is just not a good liar at all, but C was in her comfort zone of lying thru her teeth. I laughed at her answer as to why she “changed” stories about the car smelling like it had a dead body in it, vs. “rotten pizza”……WHAT A CROCK! They just don’t get it………..THEY are on tape and THEY STILL change their stories! omg…….what a waste of air time! I think the interviews only reaffirm to MOST people with common sense what everyone already knows!! They are all a bunch of lying, manipulative, psycho’s….jmo.
I have to admit that observing and listening to them leaves me stunned. It’s hard to believe people like that exist; quite scary.
pammyliz said,in December 10th, 2008 at 10:26 pm
the sightings of caylee.. rubbish! if there were truly sightings of this child and people took time to cell phone snap a picture they had plenty of time to flag down a sec officer or call 911.
EXACTLY…….911 OR THE POLICE COULD HAVE BEEN THERE IN MINUTES AND CONFIRMED IF THE SIGHTING WAS CAYLEE (NOT!). GOOD POINT!
RAJ said “Mr. Baez is popping bottles of champagne, I assure you. George was a key witness for the prosecution now he is nothing, but a liar. His testimony is useless.”
What about the interrogation videos where he says “I’m being honest with you, the smell was the smell of decomposition?” and he was worried that it was Caylee or Casey in the trunk.
Will the prosecution still try and use those tapes in court?
Obviously this so called tip in TN. doesn’t have the LE there involved. They called Cindy instead, huh, imagine that. If someone called me and said here’s a tip here in TN. I’d be on the next plane out, not sitting on the LK Show.
A profile shot of a 3 yr girl shows nothing. They have the same bone structure and if you don’t get the eyes or definitive characteristics like a unique ear shape, you have nothing.
CHSAH
Your response to the Larry King interview is exactly what the defense wanted the viewers to say about George and Cindy Anthony.
WHO in their right mind with ALL the media on this case would take Caylee out in a busy shopping mall (undisguised) and think no one would notice?? And with all the sightings of Caylee all over the states…….whom ever has her (yeah right!), must have a heck of a lot of money to travel from state to state, often in a matter of a few days of another sighting!
Monday Morning Therapist
The defense will counter with the Larry King interview.
When this case first aired, a couple weeks later I was at a gas station and a lady walked in with 2 little girls, she yelled at the one little girl “CAYLEE MARIE” get over here, I turned around and look at both girls, they both had blonde hair blue eyes. I knew it wasn’t the Caylee that was missing, but I had my cell phone out just as quick as I turned around about to call 911. It’s common sense, when you hear about someone missing, you become very aware of your surroundings very quickly. And yes, when I’m out and about like wal-mart ect. I still to this day look around, just in case of that “What If”.
Wouldn’t the first thing someone would do if they saw an abducted child is call 911? Why would they call a tipline and let them get(jet) away. They’d better sharpen up their sighting skills/protocol as people apparently don’t know what to do.
Hello ret attorney, MMT val, CHSAH (liver)…tee hee… yah i didnt see it all so I can’t comment too much plus had exhausting day…but, just read ll the days blogs… another greta day of posts guys.. i learn so much from you all when i can’t be on here to blog…so, i am fire flying right now
and stewing.. lol.. first my washer broke, then my cell phone payment got “misplaced”
then i got home and discovered the dumb girl at walmart forgot to put my girls box of candy canes in the bag and i promised her them today , gees….Now i gotta go back to walmart and reclaim lost candy canes
anyways, I think the whole fam is now nuts…and like is aid the sightings are causing more undo anguish to an already destroyed fam, i even hate the people making up the sightings. how many hearts is this breaking? caylee has an extended fam and their giving all these people false hopes… so sad.
RAJ, not sure what you mean? Why would the defense want the viewers to say that about G&C? To discredit them for the sake of his client? Explain please….
pammyliz……this one is for you! lol….
So the defense scored big tonight… sad that our justice system allows Baez to coach Cindy and George in what to do in order for them to try and win freedom for their daughter. To me it’s more like a game than anything else.
Baez can use any tactics he wants, even getting people to lie so where does truth fall in all this?
The sightings are just a ploy to keep the public on their toes looking for Caylee Marie. The prosecution has stated Caylee Marie is DEAD, but people still keep one eye open looking for this child. This will cause reasonable doubt in the minds of jurors. Judge Strickland should have ordered the gag order motion submitted by the prosecution.
Pammyliz..I’m always going back to walmart for something they forgot to put in my bad……grrrrrrr…. frustrating! lol.
There are soooooo many sightings of Caylee and everyone of them just adds to the Ant’s theory that Caylee is still out there, which just gives them reason to put “reasonable doubt” in the public eye. Kinda funny how they pick they ones to follow up on that are in vicinity of an interview they will be doing…..how convenient.
Hi pammyliz! Sorry to hear that your day didn’t have a lot of sunshine in it… except for the sweet smile on your daughter’s face!
(I knew I could get you to smile with that thought!)
OMG LMAO are you gonna leave it? wait till pickles sees that one…TOO TOO FUNNY, and your a good sport taking that all in humor, cause when i read you said chopped liver its something i always say to people alot myself, about myself!!!.. so, after a really CRAPPY day. thanks for that chuckle, i love your new name!!! I am still peaved about those candy canes, the highlight of my night was to bring them candy canes home to her, and they forgot to put them in my bag!
i sm confused too, by ret attorn comment about CHSAH comments saying thats what defense wants people to say??
RAJ or MMT, I still don’t understand how the Larry King show was a victory for the defense? Yes, it showed what idiots C&G are but how does they reflect on behalf of M, in light of the forensic evidence that LE has so far and what they have that we don’t know about yet? Sorry, but I’m slower than some of you intellects…..please explain?
Monday Morning Therapist
In the eyes and ears of the jurors.
CHSAH,
Monday Morning Therapist’s post explains the answer to your question. I may ask him/her to be my paralegal if I ever decide to practice law again.
Hi MMT.. yah she got to see santa today too.. and she made mommy an ornament out of dough
that was my highlight for sure..
then raced home only in time to see a portion of the show, i’m going to rewatch in one hour while sneakily wrapping her gifts on the floor…
what was it C said? a travesty of justice, when larry said if caylee is found it will be a travesty.. whats a travesty of justice is that caylee is no longer alive, and something always missing in any interviews or articles is talk of caylee.. wish they would talk more about her what she was like etc…
RAJ- so, by backpedaling and changing their views now, they show that they are not credible and that what they said originally should be taken with a grain of salt, as they are not trustworthy? (I live in Canada, I don’t know if the same legalities apply)
Thanks so much for your insight….!
ahhh… i get it now
Pammyliz….i will use it (a.k.a) next time Pickles is on…..I’m sure she’ll chuckle too!
Yes you are correct, Emms Mum
CHSAH, It’s ok hun, rednecks like us need more umph sometimes. hehehe.
i’m still chuckling as i see names on posts i see “LIVER” and identify quickly with you too funny!!!!
emms mum…..ok, I understand now. Thanks for putting it in layman’s terms (lol). I still think their orginial taped statments will match forensic evidence and it won’t make a difference how “uncredible” they appear to be…jmo.
RAJ… I’m glad we have you on this blog even though the truth is sometimes hard to swallow. We like to be informed and you’re giving us the education we need.
I feel pretty beat up tonight knowing that Cindy and George have been given defense jerseys. They’ve been put into the game to run interference for Casey.
RAJ… I just read your comment… thanks! LOL
Signed Grandma Monday Morning Therapist!
…so even if we all know that right now, they are obviously lying, nothing they said prior can be used against Casey, as…really, who KNOWS what truth came out of their mouth, and at what point… how very frustrating. As a mother of a 3yr old myself, I feel this is such an injustice to that beautiful girl. I don’t know how they sleep at night.
We are not defeated, just bruised. There is much more evidence, and testimony to be presented to the jury by the prosecution.
Mr. Baez and Ms. Anthony have an up hill battle, and I feel in the end she will be convicted of murdering Caylee Marie.
wow, I must be really dumg cause I didn’t figure all that out! LOL from watching, but indeed makes sense now… how unbelievable!!!
so we’re supposed to forget G’s VERY CANDID open honest statements about the corpse???
and about C dialing 911 frantic??? now its all different?? wow.. wouldn’t happen for me if I were a juror.. I may forget some facts but not those!
Paw69…….I’m not a stupid person but sometimes these intellects run circles around me and I’m finding myself going…. huh??????? That’s why I leave the intellectual determinations of the extenuating circumstantial conversation up to them…..and I just ask the dumb questions! lol…..Don’t know where I’d be on this case without em’!! lol…(tried to use some big words i heard once in this comment! lol..)
RAJ- as an experienced attorney, would you have suggested such a brazen attempt on throwing off the (potential) jury pool, by this flip-flopping? Do the Ants not have any repercussions for this?
I understand Baez’s MO, I’m just surprised that it’s an approved tactic, ethically speaking?
Monday Morning Therapist
You have the mind of an attorney. I hope you take that as a compliment.
RAJ….I pray you are right about the outcome.
CHSAH said,in December 10th, 2008 at 11:11 pm I still think their orginial taped statments will match forensic evidence and it won’t make a difference how “uncredible” they appear to be…jmo.
I HOPE SO! I’m sure that LE has TONS of forensic info that is not classified as ‘Public Record’, though I’m not sure how that is determined…
here is my opinions on the facts I would not forget as juror…
M’s initial version or interrogation of where is her daughter?? the inrticate lying and weaving of lies
(very telling)
REEKING death car…
( noticed by all, not only LE)
CHLOROFORM saturation in trunk
CELL phone records…
(pings)
NECK BREAKING AND ALL PRE MED RESEARCH ON COMPUTER
i know theres more but these stand out in my mind if i am a juror, i want answers to all of this, and there are none IMO
CHSAH LMAO , too cute. I feel I’m knowledgeable to a point. But when it comes down to the inside of the courtroom, I’m glad that RAJ is here. Because what we really don’t know (due to no attorney background), RAJ puts it out there where we can really understand it all. It’s greatly appreciated as well.
There are things we really don’t understand because we’ve never had to personally deal with the inside of a courtroom.
I want to believe Caylee is truly alive, but my heart aches because deep down inside, I honestly don’t think she’s alive.
Florida’s laws seem to be in another world altogether anyways, The other states wouldn’t allow half this stuff to happen in the first place.
emms mum said,in December 10th, 2008 at 11:12 pm
I don’t know how they sleep at night.
Guess if you don’t have a conscience….it’s pretty easy????? Sad…..
RAJ.. thanks for the ray of sunshine! Now I will tend to my bruises and black eye and sign off for the night.
Maybe I will dream that the jury will see George and Cindy’s lack of credibility as a connection to their lying daughter and they will determine that the apple doesn’t fall far from the tree and the verdict will be GUILTY AS CHARGED!
LOL… don’t I wish it was that simple…
The part I’m still stumbling over is why didn’t Casey go pick up the car and why leave it where she did? Was this a sign that deep down inside she really wanted to be caught? Or was she hoping someone would still it?
I agree paw…in michigan they just try em and covict em.. would u agree MMT? fellow michigander????
this is indeed a different type of case….
and off topic i wanted to mention the diane downs (small sacrifices case) she tried for parole and got denied.. another M… another mother murdering and attempted murder of her own kids… shes rotting away still after 25 years.. like M will be….
PAW- I agree….I live in Canada, and no WAY would this amount of info be released pre-trial…it’s crazy, but also SO very important to understand the WHOLE picture– not the “fraction of the truth”, as Bozo puts it. Which, by the way, I am SOOOO sick of hearing. I think the Ants know what happened, and have decided to join forces to save what’s left- Casey.
And also- watching those jailhouse tapes, if my daughter was missing for 5 MINUTES, I would be inconsolable, hysterical, suicidal. I’d manage to muster up some effing tears, that’s for damn sure.
I have absolutely no legal background at all so everything RAJ is helpful to me. I am taking it all in as an “undeducated juror” and I have to go with Pammyliz…..there are too many questions that have not been answered, or that have been answered that do not match up. Common sense will have to come into play in some aspects of this case with the jurors. I think common sense+forensic evidence=guilty sentence. JMO…
Retired Attorney John, thanks for the compliment! You made my day!
In my next life maybe I’ll come back as an attorney or a stand up comedian!
There should have been a gag order for everyone involved from day 1 in this case, but because that didn’t happen, and stuff has been released, well of course everyone is gonna judge jury and convict before a trial, with what we know so far in this case, it shows that Casey killed Caylee out of anger and spite and hatred.
I think her actions, after the fact are pretty symptomatic of sociopathy- spur of the moment type shit- she didn’t think this through entirely, and really really thought she was smart enough or manipulative enough to get away with it.
She’s not a seasoned criminal, (proven anyway) and is also young, so I bet the aftermath didnt even cross her mind. Just like the cheques….did she REALLY think Amy wouldnt have gotten to the bottom of that and found out who stole the cash? No foresight whatsoever….
I need to read my posts before posting them….I’m leaving words out and not spelling words I know how to spell……I SWEAR I’m not dyslexic! lol…
I do have a question for our attorney…:)
do you think the searhces on the computer, neck nreaking , how to make chloroform, will have alot of merit in this case? i mean is that gonna be important? or will they not know because there isnt exact proof of who did the searching??? will the prosecution use this in trial? as evidence to pre-med? or is it irrelevant?
George and Cindy Anthony are not clients of Mr. Baez. Mr. Baez cannnot suggest anything to them about flip flopping their statements. George and Cindy Anthony have lived a life of lies, and are very aware the direction the defense is persuing. They are simply trying to create doubt in the minds of potential jurors. Why do you think the search for Caylee has suddenly reached maximum speed?
No offense to CHSAH and Pammy I apologize if I was rude in any way.
gees alot of typos in my posts too…that was neck breaking.
i am too tired to be typing and have a date with wrapping paper and tape, and watching larry king in the quiet now. I am gonna pay attention more now after what ret attorney ahs said…lol
Kobi says he’s ready for the trial to start January 5th, yet he hasn’t even seen any of the evidence yet. His testimony will be discredited too won’t it? Without an expert actually looking at the evidence, how can he say either way about it? It’s a bad move on his part IMO.
PAW69 said,in December 10th, 2008 at 11:30 pm There should have been a gag order for everyone involved from day 1 in this case,
I just finished reading, FOR LACI, by Sharon Rocha, mother in law of Scott Peterson…you know, a gag order WAS imposed in that case…and he was still found guilty based on circumstantial evidence…when Laci’s body was found, they were unable to determine cause of death (4mths later) and they still threw his ass on death row…only FORENSIC evidence they had was ONE of Laci’s hairs (no death band) on a pair of pliers in his boat….NOTHING like what they’ve got in this case….I cant believe they took death off the table, I thought in most states, it was determined by the attitude/remorse of the accused, and in Peterson’s case, most jurors said they chose death b/c of his detachment and lack of emotion. And HE even went on national tv, begging for his wife. More than that tramp Casey can say for herself…I think our baby will get her justice…i am confident and hopeful anyway
RAJ, I understand attorney/client privilage form the stand point of the attorney’s involvement. Can the client however pass info on to others (say C&G or LV) or does that null/void the attorney/client privilage?
Pammy
Excellent question
I wish I could read the prosecution’s case file and anwser your question. From what has been released to the public it seems the prosecution is weaving the cloth of murder 1.
RAJ…..i must have missed something b/c I don’t think you were rude to me at all..:)
your cool with me…
LOL Poor RAJ, Wow, we do have a lot of questions don’t we? At least we want to know how this all works in a justice form instead of assuming.
lol rude to us?? Not at all.. I just see it more now where I didn’t before… now we are often confused by even little things lol… I get what you said… it just seems ridiculous for ants to try to sway or change minds (jury pool) by anyone at this point, just ridiculous…I don’t think it’s gonna fly tho at all!!
I was gonna ask too ret attorney
awhile back we all blogged and talked about filing a class action lawsuit against M for
these reasons
the pain and suffering over her child
the worry over where is her child
the countless hours spent here looking for her child
the tears and heartbreak, and purse illnesses in our stomachs
the carpal tunnels wrists from typing on blog
sore necks from chair,blogging
sore backs from chair, blogging
messy houses, housework being neglected…
lol
can all this be a class action suit against M??? for pain and suffering and punitive damages?
LMAO
just to add her her already mounting charges.
emms mum….well said and interesting.
RAJ, you may have already stated this in a previous post but I haven’t read all the posts in the last couple of days yet. So forgive me if I ask a redundant question. Why do you believe they took the DP off the table? I have my theory but am curious from an intellectual (experienced) attorney point of view?
CHSAH
Yes, Ms. Anthony may say to her mother or anyone for that matter that her attorney Jose Baez said, blank blank blank. Does is null/void the client/attorney privledge, yes.
That is why attorneys tell their clients to keep their mouths shut.
ok, I’m gonna quit asking questions and read blogs coming for a bit……got a lot of questions flying at RAJ (lol)…..thank you for your patience with us!
Anytime, my dear
ok i see so if their weaving the cloth then chances are it will come out.. to show exactly that murder1….pre meditated…cause i think its highly od that neck breaking, chloroform recipes, are on that computer right at the time the baby goes missing… its soooooooooooo telling, I cna’t figure out tho whose neck she wanted to break caylees.. or C’s or what, but to me its clear.
this is a heinious crime…a cold calculated crime, when i first started on here iw as maybe going with accidental, till all the other pre-med facts came out
ps…..Jan and Simon, if I haven’t told you lately how thankful we are for the blog and your editorial comments……WE WUV YOU BOTH!
RAJ - will it make any difference to the jury when the prosecution says that the original statements that George and Cindy made to LE and the FBI were at the beginning of the investigation and before a grand jury charged their daughter with Murder One, and that since George and Cindy rescinded their story months later, and after the indictment it looks a bit suspicious?
Won’t a jury be able to see the difference between an actual formal interview with LE and a media tour? Gosh, I hope so!
To secure a conviction CHSAH. A jury is more likely to hand down a verdict of life without the possibility of parole more so than the death penalty. If the prosecution had the remains of Caylee Marie I assure you the death penalty would still be an option for the jury to recommend to the judge.
I have a feeling like pickles said the prosecution is gonna come out with everything they got and nail her.. they hate her. you know they just hate this woman with venom… and they will give it their all….we haven’t heard anything yet from them
RAJ…..that’s exactly what I thought so glad to hear your answer. I’m not so dumb after all…(LOL)…making fun of myself! I personaly would rather see her rot in jail than to put her to death anyway. Rotting in jail will be more painful for her than death…..imo.
Gotta go for the evening, it has been good to hear all your thoughts. It is always interesting and always hard to leave when the blogging is so good………nite all.
May God bless our little Caylee and justice prevail for her…..
I just hope there is more dna on that stain in the trunk.
Chloroform is an ingredient I’ve heard is contained in solvents and George knew a lot about car cleaning products. I’m wondering why the chloroform was so strong in a car that had been sitting for over two weeks in a lot in the Florida summer sun. Wouldn’t it have broken down a bit by then? I hope the lab did some testing on that - how quickly chloroform degrades. It might help tell us when chloform had been introduced into the trunk - by Casey or by another Anthony.
night liver… (my friend)
I gotta watch larry king now
bye all. will catch up tomorrow.
night everyone
Novalis,
It depends on the mind of the juror. Can the juror excuse Cindy’s testimony, because she is medicated?
Can a juror look at George and listen to his testimony from the G. J. or will they see a broken man on Larry King who know recants his testimony?
Good Night
Novalis,
I have always thought George plays a role which is shared only between him, and his daughter.
On that note I must say good night, however I would like to discuss this with you at another time.
well, its after midnight here, 7am comes quick!
talk to you all again!
Thank you RAJ for your excellent advice. I hope a jury completely ignores everything Cindy says as unreliable. She has been in Spin Cycle since day one. They also have all those emails and facebook things she said about Casey to neutralize anything positive she has been spouting. And that was apparently before she was too medicated to be credible.
If jurors see George as a broken man on Larry King who is recanting his testimony, I can only hope they keep in mind his only possible motive for doing so.
Hopefully the prosecution is skilled enough to put this dichotomy into perspective for a jury. Their reversals sound so forced and rehearsed and lame when compared to the original interviews with Casey and with LE when things were fresh and charged with emotion.
PAW69 said,in December 10th, 2008 at 9:40 pm OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGG, GEORGEEEEEEEEEEEE NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!
and about c stating “caylee is a wonderful mother”…
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I almost died when I heard george say that about the garbage in the trunk…
PAW ~ HE FLOCKING KIDDIN ME
how can he do that, I thought the interview with g was most telling. He could not look king in the eyes NOT ONCE when he was answering the questions. HIs eyes fluttered faster then the wings on a damn humming bird and he looked sideways and up and down but his eyes were mostly CLOSED WHEN HE SPOKE. ALL BODY LANGUAGE OF A LIES, LIES, LIES
He could however stare straight at pics of caylee or jail house tapes with no problems.
I can’t believe G I just can’t believe this crap with them anymore. That was truly hard to watch. Well, the indictment statements will come out in court! Thank god he told the damn truth in his interview.
Oh yah, and now M was paid to do the photos at Fusion….ya ok….even if it were so, she was able to put on pretty good distraught mother cover up for a buck didn’t she!
Then too, did ya notice when c was asked about the car how long and hard she had to think about why she changed her story….she even started to say it…” I CHANGED MY STORY…pause….” I DIDN’T CHANGE MY STORY”…OMFG…
king should of showed g his statement about the smell of the car after he spewed out his cindyism on the garbage and asked him to explain his story changing….
Good morning, CA and all!
I watched a video of BB on The Today Show this past Wed morning (I’m a little behind!) and got a kick out of Matt Lauer saying that whenever they have something on about the case they get A LOT of comments from viewers who are very adament that they don’t want anything from the defense side aired; they’re willing to give up the “presumption of innocence,” basically they think M is guilty.
So considering the malfeasance of prime time air waves we should inundate incompetent senile Larry King with messages today to tell him if he can’t get it up anymore to really interview people (esp liars like the ants) then RETIRE!!!!
I mean what’s he doing? A feature news program or a variety hour/freak show? (Sorry I’m still mad at Larry Ding)
And once again BB says we’ll learn all about her story - the one that proves her innocence - at the trial! How? I’m sure he’s not going to put M on the stand! And he’s only got three witnesses. So who exactly is going to tell her story? He’s lying through his teeth!
Good morning M2C!
I too believe that Baez is not as stupid as to mention the “story” in his opening statement and thereby opening the door for the prosecution team to make him prove it. So, I assume that Baez will keep that door shut ever so tightly.
We have to remember that if a juror has previously heard Baez address the “story” and how the truth is going to be revealed at the trial, they have to set that all aside as if it never happened and focus on the evidence brought to trial.
Nothing is slam-dunk anymore, however, I feel that all it will take to convict Casey is 12 logical jurors who don’t have to have the intelligence of Albert Einstein but they must be smart enough to understand facts and evidence and know the difference between reasonable and unreasonable.
Good morning C~A… I’m sorry, I didn’t scroll up far enough to see your post this morning. I guess I’m still half asleep!
Good Morning All!
Just a heads up, If I lose power, I won’t be able to communicate with y’all. We are in a tornado watch and winds can be up to 70 miles an hour here today. Bad storms marching in now. I will be ok and safe. I may go on base with hubby today since we do live in a mobile home and no storm shelter here. If I’m not on tonight, I will be on tomorrow. BUMPY and/or CHSAH, If anything happens, I will e-mail you some how. There have been tornadoes with this system since TX. So I’m not taking anything lightly here today. I’m kinda a storm chaser, but I have to shelter here and that’s what concerns me. My kids wanted to stay home from school today due to the tornado watch. I told them no, they are safer at school. When we lived in Iowa, a few yrs ago 8 tornadoes hit our town and it devastated them. I need to shut down my computer now, Hubby just called and I’m going with him today. Have a good day all.
morning all paw be safe!
Okay. I have been angry about various aspects of this case and the case overall but now I am REALLY angry! Furious! BB is going after the two lead detectives now! BB is a scumbag shyster piece of filth.
This from wftv.com this morning.
BAEZ WANTS DETECTIVES INVESTIGATED
Jose Baez wants to investigate detectives from the Orange County Sheriff’s Office. Wednesday, Baez sent someone to the sheriff’s office to get the personnel files of detectives John Allen and Yuri Melich.
However, he didn’t pick up the list of 1,800 Caylee sightings that he requested over a month ago.
Also from wftv this morning. I wonder if BB is going to ask for a change of venue (place for the trial) today or will he wait until Jan 5?
“Thursday morning, Casey Anthony’s legal team as well as the prosecutors will be at the Orange County courthouse for a pretrial hearing. The session, which is scheduled to start at 9:00am, will involve a possible date change for Casey’s first-degree murder trial. Presently, her trial is set to start on January 5.
The pretrial hearing is only expected to last a few minutes and Casey is not expected to appear.”
PAW69 - This is for you especially today (and for all our bloggers everyday):
Today Leave Yesterday Alone (its gone)
Live Today (count your blessings)
Don’t Worry About Tomorrow (it may not come)
Dear God, the lady reading this is beautiful, classy & strong. Help her live her life to the fullest. Please promote her and cause her to excel above her own expectations. Help her to shine in darkest places, and love where it is impossible to love. Protect her at all times, lift her up when she needs you the most, and let her know that when she walks with you she will always be safe.
Anna
From much earlier post… I am so very sorry to hear about your oldest daughter. I can not imagine the pain you must feel…
I have had numerous probs with my youngest daughter (21yrs old)
(as you prob have read b4), but I thank God I still have her.
I know there is nothing that can be said to comfort you.. but my heart goes out to you…
Depression is such a devastating disease…. my prayers are with you.
lilred~thank you and e1 for the support, its rally hard to see someone you love so much sinking lower and lower, im gonna go over there todday and see what i can do, she says she want to move with my son in co, but her prob will still be there she has to learn to help herself and that we are all here for her
did anyone wach larry king? did he ask what m was doing when she said she was working m2c~great poem, its right
bb not picking up thoes tips shows me its all for show,and seems to be wasting the courts x with all these request that he doesnt follow up on, wonder about the deposition any thing new on that?
Good morning E1!!! There has been some wonderful posts out there since I was here last..
Pickles, you absolutely crack me up.. the message about the squirels in the trunk because the ants are nuts was hilarious!!LMAO..
Everyone here brings so much to the board.. it gives me the warm and fuzzys!!!!
I do have a question, that I know was asked before.. If indeed M pleas Bi-polar.. where is the depression part of the disease??? Yeah, she may be manic, but NOWHERE do I see depression.. If this has been answered b4, I apologize.. but I don’t see it..
Mytwocents, I thought the OJ trial drove me nuts but this is going to be even worse if that’s even imaginable. I too believe that Baez is using some underhanded tactics but it seems like the law gets more lenient, with these types of actions, with every passing year. I do believe the mindset of a defense attorney is to win the game at all cost or at least take it as close to the edge of the law as possible.
It makes me sick to see Casey sitting there in her evil fantasy world believing Baez can walk on water and will get her off scot-free. As the saying goes… she stepped in crap and is coming out smelling like a rose… She somehow was lucky enough to find people who are fighting tooth and nail for her and it is feeding in to her self delusions of grandeur.
With all my anger though, I still feel that truth will triumph over deceit!
I’m sorry to say that I can’t stay but I will pop in here now and then through the day!
anna, my post at 7:46 am is especially for YOU today too! My heart and prayers go out to you.
Anna re your comment @ 7:57 I agree. BB demanded ALL the tips LE had at the last hearing. How does he know that what’s on the Disk that’s been sitting there for a month is NOT what he wants? He’s stalling and messing with LE. He has no intention of even looking at such old tips. After all Caylee has been all over the US since then. Of late in Calif and then Tennessee, right?
And Lilred, I don’t see any depression either. I think bipolar is a non-starter. That really can be officially medically diagnosed and she does not have it in my layman’s opinion. She IS a sociopath! She’s got ALL those characteristics, that’s for sure!
Good morning everyone..
anna, my thoughts are prayers are also with you, m friend…
I did ened up watching lary king late last night..C did hedge alot, and G was just looking at C everytime he answered something like C was his counsel. drove me nuts..
good morning CA
I see this interview really upset you, my friend, i always feel your emotions through your posts, I would not wanna leave you alone in a room with M right now….lol.. I think it did everyone, because it wasn’t what we expcted them to sayI never even heard C talk of caylee, this is about casey they didn’t even show or express loss or sadness over caylee still being gone.. D did tear up, i still say hes a broken man…imo, and the reason he kept clamming up is because he knows what he said to fbi and hes not gonna risk changing his story too much, weird really weird people.
man, alot of typing errors, whats up with my typing?
hello MTC! lil red
CA..
I also agree with Pammyliz.. your emotions do show thru your post.. that is a good thing. But I think all of our (all my peeps) emotions show thru. This is an emotional, sad story… I honestly believe that everyone here has more love and compassion for little Caylee than her entire family. What a shame.. I think the reason we don’t see much of any of the ants family members is because they are too ashamed to be tied to this family.. I know I would.
Pammyliz.. hey, your typing resembles mine.. except half the time I mispell words.. damn where is spell check when you need it!!
i watched the lk interview why doesnt anyone ask what m was doing when saying she was going to work? also the kidnapping theroy usuall someone is taken for a reason, money, sex,what would m have that someone would want? there has been no ransom notes, no treats(im sure c&g would be asking for protection)so it makes no sence they dont have bundles of money i truly dont know how they live with themself with all the garbage they claim! pammy~thank you
also about the amber alert! hello thats usually done in the first hours not after 31 days give me a break!
lired have you read the emails from c family? they say she is making a fool of herself and they dont believe m
Anna, no I have not read them. Do you have know where I can get them?? (sometimes a little slow on these things haha!) THANKS
Yup, I do agree the Amber alert is about 31 days too late.. they are complete idiots.. they are now just grasping at straws.
M2C.. your poem was awesome. It was very touching.. I totally enjoy reading everything you write..
Gosh, doesnt’t it seem like it is taking forever for this trial?? I can’t wait for it to begin…
Gotta go for a bit… laundry is calling my name. ICK.. I really hate doing laundry!!
Love you all
ps. Has Molly and Dak really left the blog?? I have not seen anything from either of them. That is a shame.. we all stand united for one cause..
Lilred: Yes I think they left the blog. I believe one did not get enough attention and the other got too much. We try but we can’t please ‘em all!
Also I did not write that poem. I saw it and thought of some of our bloggers who are having particularly difficult times right now so I thought I would post it for everyone! It did not come from this blog. A friend sent it to me. I never saw an author or I would for sure have given credit. I think it’s great too!
mmt@10:02 homless man dusting off pizza and eating it verry funny!
Anna is right, an amber alert would have been issued if Casey had reported ASAP. You need a complete description of child and a description of the car. It was too late after the 31 days.
C and G need to shut up. They have lost all credibility as far as I am concerned.
raj@10:30 because g lied on lk they can throw his testomony out? did i understand that right? shouldnt they charge g with something if thats the case? or can they??
I don’t think they will actually throw it out. It still holds more weight under the circumstances than anything stated on television.
I think RAJ is saying that the Jury might not take the previous statements to be as significant as they would have had G not lied on LK.
lilred sorry it took so long i found the link but forgot the time so had to look again pickles dec 9 at 8:06 has a link on her post goes right to emails
Again back to reasonable doubt. If just one Juror is not in agreement, then you have a hung Jury. Baez is banking on that.
Again back to reasonable doubt. If just one Juror is not in agreement, then you have a hung Jury. Baez is banking on that.
MTC ~ TEARS! Dear God, the lady reading this is beautiful, classy & strong. Help her live her life to the fullest. Please promote her and cause her to excel above her own expectations. Help her to shine in darkest places, and love where it is impossible to love. Protect her at all times, lift her up when she needs you the most, and let her know that when she walks with you she will always be safe.
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Good morning all….you should go to larry king if ya want to see emotion…When I leave a post somewhere other then here, I give er! I don’t like to rant like that here, but I did on the LK blog…C~A Shelly from Canada…
I don’t kn0w anyone there and I can chew it up and spit it out…I even had to do caps…
After that pathetic display of deceipt on LK last night I tried to go back and spout some more but it was closed. You should check it out there are alot of good posts.
About C using the excuse they have come up with now that LE had already made up their minds about maggott etc….
OH yes Cindy, LE would rather makbelieve caylee is dead when she isn’t and put your daughter away for something she didn’t do! Ya that’s the ticket…just to get yer goat cindy…yup yup…that’s what’s really going on!
I could just puke. It took my breath away when george talked about how he had learned how much garbage could smell after 19 days in the heat….It still does…How could he, knowing what he originally said, how could he????????
I could just cry thinking how they are NOT thinking about caylee at all.
I don’t think I can ever watch another episode of the ants on tv ever again. I just can’t take it…and larry…why didn’t he at least say that it was reported there was NO pizza, although it’s a futile effort in getting to the truth casue they can’t handle the truth, and c would have only said that LE reported that and it isn’t true, but why can’t larry do a proper interview?
Why can’t meredith do a proper interview.????
Why don’t the ants do an interview with our pitt bull grace? CAUSE THEY COULDN’T HANDLE HER. SHE DEMANDS THE FACTS NOT THE FICTION.
TRIAL IS DELAYED UNTIL MARCH. I was disapointed but will give em more time to tighten the noose around maggots neck and maybe find out caylee baby!
just gotta say you all are awsome
i have 20 min or so before i got to get ready to go to daughters house, but your support for someone you only know thru blogging is great, kinda supprised me you all responded as you did im very greatfull you all took your time to make me feel better! again thanks!
maybee with the trial delayed paddy will find our girl, i hope someone does and soon, as for c&g its hard to watch them because of thier lies, it took me forever to wact c in thoes fbi interviews wonder what the fbi guy thought?? he prob had to go have a stiff drink afterward!
maybee c&g are making it worse with all the diffent stories, how could anyone begin to believe them, the only reason pep lie is to hide something hopefully jury will see that, i meant making the case worse for the defence wich is fine with me, wonder if any of them will have to take the stand, do you think the trial will be telivised?
Anna ~ I hope your daughter will be ok. It must hard for you, but we all care and will say a prayer. What is your daughters name if you don’t mind me askin, will send out a personal prayer for her…if not I will just say ANNA’S GIRL!
((((((((((((HUGS))))))))))))))
Another thought I have about these sightings: If they are valid, why are they not simply in one spot? They are coming from all over, which indicates to me that they are nothing more than random sightings of a girl who looks like Caylee. (and there are many) I think the crazy road map they are creating could backfire on them.
Also, has anyone noticed how much larger the nose is on that mall picture compared to the nose on Caylee. A nose would not grow that much in such a short time.
Another thought I have about these sightings: If they are valid, why are they not simply in one spot? They are coming from all over, which indicates to me that they are nothing more than random sightings of a girl who looks like Caylee. (and there are many) I think the crazy road map they are creating could backfire on them.
Also, has anyone noticed how much larger the nose is on that mall picture compared to the nose on Caylee. A nose would not grow that much in such a short time.
c~a my daughter name is amanda, talked to her this am aounds better but still gonna go help her get some stuff started
SHAREBEAR…you are 100% correct. Caylee can’t be in all those diff places.
The kidnappers have her jet settin all over the country? The sightings are all bogus.
Listen, how many of us that came within 4 feet of this child and say with 100% certainty that it was in fact Caylee, wouldn’t grab onto to that little girl and scream someone to call 911!
I would…or follow them like come one! It’s all so ridiculous! Two times…one came within 10 feet and one came within 4 feet but they both let her get away?????
I was in a store called GARAGE last August. In a mall..there was a little girl, caylees size in an umbrella stroller. I could only see her profile.
I got the worst sick feeling in my stomach and waited and watched until I could see her face. I would know in a heart beat if it was her. I don’t even think I was breathing to be honest. It obviously wasn’t her, but if it was…I can swear on my own life I would NOT let that little girl outta my sight and I would of definitly made a scene….
I wouldn’t of taken a picture of her and walked away…OH HELLO POLICE I THINK I JUST SAW CAYLEE ANTHONY OH BOUT AN HOUR AGO, I DON’T KNOW WHO HAD HER AND I DIDN’T TALK TO HER AND I DON’T KNOW WHERE SHE IS NOW BUT I AM SURE IT WAS HER…UUUUUUUUUGGGGGGGGGGH!
THESE SIGHTING ARE MAKING ME SICK TOO!
i think ng would ask the question about what was m doing when pretending to go to work, that is driving me crazy that there is no answer to that question!
Anna…that burns me up too. How will we ever know? Unless who ever she was spending her time with finally comes forward or leaks it out…it will never come any of the army ants or the piece of crap maggot…
MY PRAYER FOR AMANDA HAS BEEN SENT UP ANNA!
PRIORITY POST…LOL
thank you c~a
Listen, how many of us that came within 4 feet of this child and say with 100% certainty that it was in fact Caylee, wouldn’t grab onto to that little girl and scream someone to call 911!
I would…or follow them like come one! It’s all so ridiculous! Two times…one came within 10 feet and one came within 4 feet but they both let her get away?????
I have to totally agree C~A!!!!!
I think C said that one of the couples waited like 2 weeks. WTH ever!
I could not watch the entire interview with Larry King! My heart cried out for George. I could tell his heart was broken. Thats why his wife had to do all the talking and lying. What a freaking nightmare!
gotta go guys+gals check back later~anna
I have to rant a bit about the Larry King bit last night:
Why can’t Larry actually prepare for an interview? He seemed to know absolutely nothing about this case, which was upsetting to me because it is another clear attempt to gather ratings without any attempt to find Caylee.
Cindy said that all the pics of Casey partying were taken before Caylee went missing, except one which was a publicity shot the bar paid her for, so she was not lying when she stated she was working.
Does one pic account for all the lies about Universal? And what about the American Flag pics? Those were all taken at a party which she texted about during the time Caylee was missing. This was such an outright lie and if King has boned up on the case at all, he could have asked some serious questions about this part of the timeline.
I almost fell out of my chair laughing when Cindy said she sometimes thinks something died in her fridge…..you think she called 911 and freaked out when the milk went bad too? Can we hear the recording of that one?
George said from all his years in LE his professional opinion of the smell was that was what 19 day old garbage smells like. I live in Florida. I have driven past the landfills, mountains of garbage far more than 19 days old. It smells bad, real bad. But I have smelled animal death (never human, thank goodness) and you cannot mistake garbage for rotting flesh.
Pickles - I too have been thinking about the e-mails between Cindy’s mom and her pals. All the discussions of deadbeat George and divorce and such. Then I started thinking…..what if all of this was lies told by Cindy to her mom, just like Casey lies to her mom? I have now discredited in my own mind everything George, Cindy, Casey, or Lee has ever said. I think everything out of their mouths has been an utter and complete lie. I think the only credible evidence is the first hand testimony of those around the anthonys (but nothing that is a repeat of anything an anthony told them) and the forensic evidence gathered by law enforcement.
I think this interview proved to everyone on this blog that no matter what any of the Anthonys say, it has to be taken as fantasy, even the statements made at the beginning since it now appears that each member of the family had their own dirty secrets to protect while giving statements.
Good Morning Everyone,
Just now from FOX News:
The judge in the case of missing Florida toddler Caylee Anthony postponed her mother’s murder trial, which was scheduled to begin Jan. 5.
Ninth Circuit Judge Stan Strickland complied Thursday with a request by Casey Anthony’s lawyer Jose Baez to put off the start date of her trial until March. He set another hearing for Jan. 15.
Baez also asked for a change of venue.
Flippen…I too can see that George is almost worse off then cindy now when he looked at the video of baby babblin. Didn’t seem to both the medicated one though! It does break your heart for not for long…when he flat out lied about the “decomposing smell” being garbage I was done feelin for the piece of crap…Lies like that over-ride any feeling toward him. I hate them all! How can he lie like that after hi LE interview? I just don’t get it! And they blame the outrage on LE ..
Oh yah, ya see how happy c was when she threw in about the some people not ever watchin ng again….there’s grief for ya. It’s all a game to them. Whoever they can put down or bring down with stupid comments like and plantin doubt is their game…she is actually smiling when she said that….she is a dirt bag…I don’t know how they live with themselves!
I just need to vent and off to clean the house and to work.
As I have blogged before…if one of my children were missing I would be begging, pleading, crying, screaming at the top of my lungs for help!! I would go everywhere, tell my story to every media person ect..that would give me an ear! I don’t know how I could even function being grief sticken let alone do a cat walk strut and party while my child is missing.. I really, really pray to GOD that there is a Zanny who was young and rich and took this beautiful little girl for a wonderful vacation! Oh please will there ever been an ending to this terrible nightmare?
Flippen ~ I hear ya! Vent all ya want to we all feel like you do! It’s all so painful, and bad enough this baby is dead and for her own grandparents to turn this into the circus it has become…enabling that maggot they call a “wonderful” mother….wholly good god!
Paddy and LE is who they blame for this becoming a circus…they must not be able to see how transparent they have become.
OMG wait till verdict day! BRING IT ON! MAGGOT GETS LIFE AND IS FOUND GUILTY.
If for some reason, hung jury or NOT GUILTY…you think the mob was crazy and irate when maggott was out of jail on bond?
It will be pandimonium! The ants will be hurt I know it! they are fueling the fire every single day with the rage in people and c and g will be blamed for their antics if she gets off! Maggot will wish she was convicted. She won’t be able to go anywhere! She will be prisoner in her own home!
Thanks!
It is just a circus!
Mama make it STOP!
Ckeck out Orlando news… they found a little girls body not far from the Anthony house!!!!
Remains Of Young Child Found Near Anthony Home
Thursday, December 11, 2008 – updated: 11:18 am EST December 11, 2008
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. — The remains of a young child were located in east Orange County Thursday morning, less than a half-mile from Casey Anthony’s parents’ home, according to the Orange County Sheriff’s Office.
An Orange County water meter reader discovered a bag in the area of Chickasaw Trail and Suburban Drive (see map), around three-tenths of a mile from the Anthonys’ home (map from location to Anthonys’ home).
live audio and video - found remains of young child:
http://www.wftv.com/video/18252959/index.html
OMG OMG ….where is everyone….I am in shock…
http://www.wftv.com/news/18253901/detail.html
This story has the best details.
Okay, storms have kinda subsided for now.
OMFGGGGGGGGGGGGG, The fact that Casey said” My gut feeling is,she’s close to home”, If this is Caylee, This will hurt her in court.
NOW WHAT BOZO BAEZ and YOU FLUCKING IDIOTS C&G!!!
Nice sighting y’all have huh. FLUCKING IDIOTS!!!
HEYY CA———-THEY THINK IT IS OUR BABY???????
I just saw the news. What a shock and relief
MAMABEAR…I KNOW IT IS…IT HAS TO BE…
IS IT CAYLEE?
Next C&G will say that Zenaida did it and not Casey I’m sure, But we all know the evidence will prove Casey did it.
OMG OMG is it cayleee???????
OOOOOOOH WOW. CHILL BUMPS HERE
C&G What do you think of your murdering daughter now, you FLUCKING IDIOTS.
Can we slap the shite out of C,G,AND THE MURDERING SKANKS NOW.
OMFG I just logged on here, and I am GLAD I did…oh I pray to God……
MAMA, Casey said”In My Gut I Feel She’s Close To Home” , It’s Caylee.
Where is RAJ and BUMPY , And M2C.
My stomach is killing me now.
This damn blog is waaaaaaay too slow…
OMG PAW….you bet….slap the lying shit eatin grin off their face…and kick their flokckin asses…right to the jail house…BYE BYE
WOW—–
I can’t wait til NG tonight. I’m sure everything will come out now.
nothing on news OMG i am already upset today and now this dreaded heart wrenching news.
go to http://www.wftv.com
… discovered near the intersection of South Chickasaw Trail and Suburban Drive.
Early reports indicate that the bones were wrapped in a plastic bag and bound with duct tape.
Omg could our prayers be finally answered!
The news is on and the founding of a bag of bones were found with a half mile from the Ants house. They have not speculated on the finding nor have they disturbed the site.
News cahnnels are stating that this is vfery serious to the Caylee Ants search and could possibly be the missing girl
I want to See all their faces. I want to see how they have reacted to this. I’m fuming for so many different reasons right now.
I live here in fla, and every news shannel is covering this story right now.
live streaming audio and video:
http://www.wftv.com/video/18252959/index.html
This right here will be the key to her conviction, let’s see if that lying bitch can muster up any tears for this beautiful baby girl. I can’t believe it, I am actually crying at my desk here, this is so devastating….but everyone needs closure….
3/10 of a mile from the Ants home, and its the wood behind they home.
The Ants on departing from California now, they were told by OCSD that it has not been confirmed yet.
I bet they are freaking out right now though. I bet they have that sick feeling in their stomach now.
OMG..OMG.. I feel so sick!
they said that part of the findings was a skull
I wonder if this was an area in Tim’s search?
The FbI has the yellow tape up and will confirm the finding in a later interview.
From what wftv said, the OCSD told equusearch “we’ve got her”.
A meter reader would have passed by that same spot for months. Where were the searches in relation to this spot? Near a road, near her house, M couldn’t have thought of a better place than that? I hope they can put that baby to rest now and put the DP back on the table!
Can the bone marrow show drugs,chloraform ect. ?
PAW- I read that too…who the hell else would it be? unless maybe Trenton Duckett- but I have a feeling in my heart, this is our baby….this is our baby girl.
I feel numb. Sad and numb.
Flippen - The video on myfox indicates that the man who found the bag of bones was digging, so apparently, it was buried. So Tim’s group wouldn’t have found it anyway (unless someone came across an area that looked as if something had been recently buried). Whoever put the bones there must have covered their tracks.
Hope that makes sense. This is v upsetting.
Wow what an interesting chain of avents…Larry King, follow up on sighting in NPB, delay in trail, childs bones found! Wow what a diff a day can make.
HA!!!!!!!! NOW WHAT SLUT———-NOW WHAT????????????
val said,in December 11th, 2008 at 11:56 am A meter reader would have passed by that same spot for months. Where were the searches in relation to this spot? Near a road, near her house, M couldn’t have thought of a better place than that? I hope they can put that baby to rest now and put the DP back on the table
Val- Can they do that? I hope to hell that they can! WHere is RAJ when you need him!??
RAJ, WE NEED YOUUUUUUUUUUUUU
emms mum - exactly. Who else would it be, considering the proximity to the Anthony home?
I’m literally sick to my stomach.
Anyone know how long it takes for identification? Hopefully v soon. This wait will drive us all nuts.
Concerned in Texas said
Thanks that makes it really clear!
I feel so torn…I want closure but I also want there to be this young rich Zanny that took her….
Casey: My Gut Felling Is , She’s Close To Home!
I am stunned, poor little Caylee, I knew she was gone but the reality of finding her like this is heart wrenching. If she were buried that would preserve the evidence at least and bring justice!
Amen Val!
Val - me, too. I cannot even look at her picture right now.
The worst part of all of this is the Ants are going to continue to say it was Zanny who killed her, Casey had nothing to do with it…I truly think this will be the end of Cindy. How will she and G survive this? Their la-la land is about to come crashing down on them….
I’m in Florida right now and they had breaking news, Remains of a child found near Anthony home
Emms C&G will prolly go that route, but evidence will prove that it was Casey.
PAW69 said,in December 11th, 2008 at 12:03 pm Casey: My Gut Felling Is , She’s Close To Home!
Wow…thats just way to sick for me to even swallow!
PAW 69 - I read that the bones can show chloroform. Not sure about other drugs.
I didn’t know meter readers had to dig. I guess I’m only used to seeing them check the meter on the sides of houses.
I’m just shaking. I should stop typing. After I say I’m sure the airport will be chock full of reporters greeting the ants when they get off the plane. If I had my way NO ONE would meet them at all. They can go home by themselves. I am not interested in a word they have to say.
C already texted the media that it’s not confirmed. That’s true. And that’s all they do have to say so I wish the media would ignore them. Not gonna happen, I’m sure. But I wish it would.
Flippen, those words she said will prolly be 1 big key in this now.
CIT - a reporter on wftv said initial/preliminary ID might take as little as three days.
Yes PAW69 you are prolly right on! What a sick little ho!
3 days! I might go insane!
PAW 69 - at 11:48 I also wish we could see their faces. Now they have a long plane trip to compose themselves and think up a new story. Damn them to hell. Oh wait! They’re already there! Wonder if C will refute THESE forensics.
M2C, They will have no choice.
M2C oh you KNOW C will say the DNA results that confirm this IS Caylee are wrong! They don’t even trust the friggin FBI lab! This will just bring craploads of more BS from their mouths. they’ll wanna hire their OWN docs to test the body…..morons.
Wow!!! this amazing I didn’t know if this day would ever come! I am watching fox news and they are saying that the inside of the duct tape will prob have fingerprints
Wow!!! this amazing I didn’t know if this day would ever come! I am watching fox news and they are saying that the inside of the duct tape will prob have fingerprints
Wow!!! this amazing I didn’t know if this day would ever come! I am watching fox news and they are saying that the inside of the duct tape will prob have fingerprints
Sheryl - that would be AMAZING if they could do that….I worry that they might not be able to determine cause of death…
How convient the Lee girlfriend stops at the house. You got to wonder what is inside that puts M with Caylee at her death. Maybe the necklace that was bought, that has been such a secret
How convient the Lee girlfriend stops at the house. You got to wonder what is inside that puts M with Caylee at her death. Maybe the necklace that was bought, that has been such a secret
News anchor on Fox just said the body was found a few “blocks” from Anthony home.
I would be checking that girl phone record for today to see who called her first?
I bet it Cindy, she has been covering up for M since the begining.
NG is on Headline news. She says DNA is 24-72 hrs, but any clothing, may ID her sooner. M may have gotten rid of the clothes. She says they can also trace the black trash bag that matched the bags in M’s trunk. She says if you go back over the evidence from day one, you can see that she buried the child in a plastic bag. She thinks the rain may have exposed the burial site. She maintains that the grandparents believed Caylee was alive.
She’s quoting M saying “Caylee is close to home”.
3/10 of a mile behind the Ants house is the wooded area that the meter guy was.
Hello e1!! I cannot believe this!! Where is pickles?? ANyone know? I just read that they have secured the Anthony home!! I wish I could see maggot’s face!
what city was Trenton Duckett from?
omg…i think pickles is off with comp probs. I sent her and CHSAH and few others an email. Pickles will see it on the news though
4:00pm c and g will be back in orlando
OMG they better rush the dna and I hope that there were clothes…she’s in a bag, so there will be PLENTY OF PRESERVED EVIDENCE….
FLOCK YOU ANTHONYS!
Now I know that if a body is found, they don’t keep it a secret. Also Paddy is full of it with his inside info. I’m glad all the clues are coming together now; finally there is some sense to all of the evidence. JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE!
CA - But remember during the last search M said, “But they haven’t even found the clothes!” So maybe some clothing was separate from baby.
I just can’t believe this and I don’t know how I’m going to get thru the next few days until we know for sure! I’m sure everyone feels that way. EEK!
BTW, I do not think that LE called the ants to tell them. They couldn’t and wouldn’t. They don’t know the identity yet and C & G are not next of kin. When they know it is Caylee then they have to inform M and then MAYBE C & G. I think that either a reporter or Messy Bart called them on their cell phone (or some other kidloser accomplice of the ants).
OMG, I can’t stop crying. We all wanted her to be found, Now it’s reality that she is found, I thought I’d be parading around when they found her, But instead I’m am crying endlessly. This just kills me.
MTC - YES but maybe she was lying about the clothes being seperate? So when they found the body ( just bones) they would think they would be looking for remains without clothes? Shelies all the time!
Lee may have called them as well.
emms mum - you’re right. Nothing is going to shut up C. (I am very sorry to say). She will dispute DNA and run off to Tennessee tomorrow - to “investigate” the most recent “sighting!”
Blechhhh!
GOD works in mysterious ways, He let it rain just enough to unearth Little Caylee.
If Cindy still spouts out at the mouth and still protects Casey, Then that just shows she could care less about Caylee. I hope Cindy goes to jail for obstruction as well.
He brought her home for Christmas, PAW!
She won’t be opening presents
I believe in TM , However as for Paddy, I’m disgusted with him. He was extremely wrong in making the recent comment he did.
Val…amen! Our little girl will not be buried in the dirt in a bag for xmas…she will of hopefully had been laid to rest by then.
No, but she will be found and put to rest. I know, it’s so tragic, but she is found and always remembered by the people who prayed for her.
Ok guys….can someone shed some light here!
The posted print, and a reporter on WFTV are saying it’s the remains of a LITTLE GIRL….they are NOT saying the remains of a SMALL CHLD?
HOW WOULD THEY KNOW IT IS A LITTLE GIRL?
THEY FOUND CAYLEE???
The skeletal remains of a small child were found Thursday near the home of missing Orlando toddler Caylee Anthony’s family.
There was no immediate word on whether the bones, reportedly discovered wrapped in a plastic bag and bound with duct tape, were those of a boy or a girl.
“All we know is that remains of a child have been found,” a police spokeswoman told FOXNews.com. Orange County sheriffs and forensics teams went to the scene at the intersection of South Chickasaw Trail and Suburban Drive in Orlando.
Sheriff’s Office spokesman Jim Solomons told The Associated Press that a utility worker found the body at 9:32 a.m. EST Thursday.
Police said the Anthony family has been notified of the discovery
Pickles! We’ve been looking for you! It’s all over the news. They believe they have found her.
BUMPYYYYYYYYYYYYY
CA I was wondering the same thing. I would have to assume they know a little bit more than what they are allowed to say at this point.
C~A I wouldnt put too much stock in that, I think everyone is assuming it’s Caylee at this point- I think it’s probably impossible for anyone to know whether it was a boy or girl- unless maybe there WAS clothing evidence in the bag….which I hope to God there was, we need someone to nail this b*tch to the wall.
http://www.necn.com/Boston/Nation/2008/12/11/Skeletal-remains-found-may-be/1229013069.html
pICKLES YOU NOT SEE IT ON THE NEWS YET? THEY THINK THEY FOUND HER RIGHT BEHIND THE ANTHONY HOME…3/10TH OF A MILE AWAY IN TEH WOODS
ORLANDO, Florida (CNN) — Remains described as being those of a small child were found Thursday near the home of missing toddler Caylee Anthony’s grandparents, a spokesman for the Orange County, Florida, sheriff’s office told CNN.
Investigators stand near the area where the skeletal remains were found Thursday.
1 of 2 The discovery was made about 9:30 a.m. by a utility worker, who alerted authorities, spokesman Jim Solomons said. Investigators, including those from the Anthony case and defense team, were on the scene, he said.
Police Capt. Angelo Nieves was reluctant to disclose details of the discovery to reporters at the scene, other than to say the skeletal remains found in a plastic bag appeared consistent with those of a young child. The Anthony family has been notified of the discovery, he said.
Caylee Anthony, 3, has been missing
CNN affiliate WFTV reported that the utility worker, a meter reader, picked up a bag at the site and a skull fell out
Solomons said he could not confirm reports that the body was that of a small girl. Asked about the distance from the site to Casey Anthony’s parents’ home, he said it would be “very safe to say it’s in very close proximity.”
remember what Casey said “she’s close to home”
authorities
Okay, TM said that no one of the age of Caylee is missing other than Caylee in that area.
Apparently BAEZ is at the jail talking to Casey now.
Todd Black, the spokesman for Casey Anthony’s defense attorney, told the Orlando Sentinel he hoped the discovery was not related to their case.
“If it is, it is a sad day,” he said. Earlier Thursday, a judge had delayed the mother’s trial from January to March.
Orange County Sheriff’s spokesman Angelo Nieves said officials told Caylee’s grandparents about the find, but refused to discuss whether the remains were Caylee’s.
“It would be premature to speculate,” Nieves said. “We’re not going to release any more information at this time. We don’t want to compromise the investigation.”
The FBI and forensic investigators were working at the scene, which sits on the edge of the Anthonys’ neighborhood about 10 miles southeast of downtown Orlando.
“We have been advised to do a recovery, but until our investigator comes back with the information we have no comment,” said Sheri Blanton, senior program manager for the Orange County Medical Examiner’s office.
Police are now confirming that they have found a small body about half a mile from Caylee Anthony’s home - but have not confirmed the identity of the body.
1/2 A MILE..it is one mile to my sons school everyday to walk him to and fro…she always said Caylee wus close…a plastic bag and duct tape is that all Caylee was worth to her…
It’s being reported that the skll of the small child found in a garbage bag rolled onto the ground when authorities discovered the remains.
One official reportedly said, “Looks like we got her,” further fuelling speculation that the body is that of Caylee Anthony
SO glad you can be here for this Pickles! I was afraid you had puter probs!
How are we all going to get thru the next few days? EEK! WITH each other, that’s how! That’s the only way. TG for BNN and Jan and Simon and US!
Tim Miller, founder and director of Texas EquuSearch, said that he is in agreement with sources close to the investigation who feel that remains found near the home of Casey Anthony are that of her missing two-year-old daughter, Caylee Anthony.
“My prayers go out to the family of the deceased child,” Miller told Investigation Discovery. “I hope they can now come to peace and begin to put back together the pieces of their shattered lives.”
the worker did not have to dig, he just went to relieve himself in the woods. A little saddened that the closest woods were not searched last July.
remember what Casey said “she’s close to home”
authorities are not saying whether it is the remains of Caylee , but in my heart its her
the bag they found has not been opened as yey the medical-examiners office are they but did not open it,
the reporter also says a skull fell out of the bag when they found it
Dr. G is an awesome examiner. I watch her shows all the time.
WFTV-TV says a girl’s body was found this morning near the home of Caylee Anthony, the 3-year-old who disappeared last summer in Orange County, Fla. The girl’s mother, Casey Anthony, was charged with murder after detectives found inconsistencies in her story about Caylee’s disappearance
Her little skull rolled out of the bag…as if she was sayng here I am…a plastic bag and duct tape..thats all I hope there is more hair there..I believe RX drugs go into bone marrow…
So is bb at the jail???
The specifics of finding the remains may be premature at this point but this is a little different version that does not have the meter reader digging:
“An Orange County water meter reader, who had gone to relieve himself, discovered a bag about 20 to 30 feet off the sidewalk in the area of Chickasaw Trail and Suburban Drive (see map), around three-tenths of a mile from the Anthonys’ home (map from location to Anthonys’ home).”
The same wftv.com article said LE is setting up a permeter near a small retention pond. I’m wondering if the bag was in the pond at first and with all the rains and flooding ended up on land when the waters receded. That may be why searchers did not find it sooner. “All in God’s time” I guess.
somebody just told me that MSNBC said that the skull found looked like it had suffered blunt force trauma. I haven’t seen the report yet on that channel.
If that is true, and it is Caylee, we can look at Murder One again because we will have a cause of death that is unmistakably murder.
Sherriff is talking about “Dr.G” medical examiner is there…she is the one on tv. I think she is fantastic…
Todd Black, the spokesman for Casey Anthony’s defense attorney, told the Orlando Sentinel he hoped the discovery was not related to their case.
“If it is, it is a sad day,” he said. Earlier Thursday, a judge had delayed the mother’s trial from January to March
OMG, the one fear we hoped wasn’t true, She stripped Caylee
.
I bet BAEZ is either saying, you better tell me the truth now, or he already knew and is now saying, ok we have to go with this stradegy.
EquuSearch’s leader said sheriff’s office investigator thinks the remains found today belong to missing toddler Caylee Marie Anthony.
Tim Miller, the founder and director of EquuSearch, said the remains “appear to be Caylee, but with any case, we have to wait until a positive ID is made.”
“It looks like finally it’s over with,” Miller said
Residents said duct tape was found around the skull,
Even with Murder One, can the DP be brought back? Seems like this changes everything.
Smith said the area where the remain were found is “really wet and steep and there’s lots of snakes back there.”
We’re already hearing conflicting reports–we just need to be cautious (referring to whether they know it’s a girl, etc).
Sharing this from AP Article regarding previous searching of the area:
“Mandy Albritton, a member of EquuSearch — one of the groups that searched for the missing toddler — said their volunteers did not check the location in early September because it was submerged in water. When they returned in November, the site had been fenced off.
One of EquuSearch’s volunteers, Deborah Smith, searched the area three times and said “she had a bad feeling” because Anthony had said her daughter was nearby. She said, “it’s really wet and steep and there’s lots of snakes back there.”
and
“Dr. Lee Jantz, coordinator of the forensic anthropology center at the University of Tennessee, said the first thing medical examiners will do is compare photos of the child with the skull, in hopes of making a bone structure comparison. In high-profile cases the DNA of the bones will also be tested.”
[source: google.com/hostednews/ap/article/ALeqM5h1Nac1XKmGDPZKMEdJOz4f2oHBzgD950LBI80 ]
Im gunna puke…I guess Caylee wont be having pop tarts of tv time ever again..thank God her mothers life is worthy enuff to xist…
A tiny body wrapped in plastic and sealed with duct tape
We’ve got to think about leaving the bread crumbs soon i think….it’s really slow!
NG will be busy tonight.
I hope we can get some kind of answers tonight.
Yeah, let’s move to another blog, please!
“”"NEWS REPORTS”" “It is to early to tell if remains are that of Caylee anthony ,
Isnt it nice that c and g just went on national television and totally made a~~’s out of themselves in light of this discovery…
I know its her…it all fits in with what killr wus sayng b4..her being close..and I guess cant get no safer then being wrapped in plastic and duct taped..I mean hell…
A tiny body…pickles…if it was under water and buried most of the time…ya think although there is a “skull”…would there be any soft tissue being it was in a bag and kept in tact with possibly duct tape?
val - A few minutes ago, on a fox news report, I heard a judge say that yes, the death penalty can be reconsidered.
M could be convicted to die.
I’m thankful for one single thing–Whether Caylee or another precious child, I’m grateful that the remains were all in one place. If nothing else, this innocent child deserves a dignified resting place, which can now be done.
BUMPY, being in a plastic bag and in water, is the evidence still preserved?
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I’m amazed being in a flooded area that the bag stayed in tact. Rotten luck for M once again. Decomposition might have pushed it toward the surface of a flooded area. She refused to stay buried.
There culd be..they can do dna on the bones…they can get a warrant for dna from killr or any other loser in that fam..thay all abandond that child..that childs little skull rolled out and showed itself ..poor Caylee..
paw…i would think so…
Finger prints will be on the duct tape still right? unless she wore gloves.
It culd b preserved..I hope ther is hair in it..hair..is the key to all of it..organs…soft tissue is good..but hair..bone marrow..organs…Caylee wus stuffed in a bag and wrapped with duct..tape..I bet duct tape was missing from the shed.
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CIT, I am glad to hear that. I was OK with life, but today I would advocate a lynch mob.
I doubt she wore gloves..she prolly thinks she has magical fingertips that dont leave prints.
Ok they just showed BAEZ. Now think about this, Every time reporters were around, he had to say something-anything right. Now he is walking away, not saying anything at all. What does that tell you??? It tells me, SHE’S GUILTY FOR SURE, and the remains ARE that of Caylee.
PAW - When I recently researched “no body” convictions, I came across one case where the murderer was convicted on one single piece of evidence–one fingerprint on duct tape. And that was with no body.
The judge I heard speak on Fox also said just from bones, they might be able to tell how she died and if she suffered before dying or just fell asleep and then died. I’ve no idea how, but that is what he said.
BOZO said he was holding a news conference later today! Bet maggot is shitting bricks now!
She sur didnt think it out to well sealing her up in a plastic bag with duct tape..duct tape is strong..memba lacey peterson and conner..duct tape…she is just like scott peterson..I bet she studied murderers b4 hand…
I bet maggot is gettng ready to talk…they have the remains..she better start to talk b4 they reinstate the death penalty…for real she better use Caylee this one last time to save her skin..I hate her..plastic bag and duct tape…f~~ her stupid B~~~
CA, that will be after he shits out his bricks. Lemon will be back on the case. Any other time, Baez is like Cindy, needs to be in the spot light. Now all of a sudden, he doesn’t want the spot light.
Authorities in Florida aren’t saying whether the bones they’ve found belong to missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony.
OK I am in shock and cant read (no time), just got back, is it true? Did they find remains of Caylee?
BUMPY, SHE STRIPPED HER
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Stupid B~!$*!! I hate her..she threw Caylee out like a sack of garbage…I hate her.
Right, they won’t know until they test the remains! But everybody including Sherriff and Tim Miller think it’s her! It has to be!
Sharebear it is not confirmed but a 1/4 mile from the ant cave they found a childs skeletal remains in a plastic bag sealed with duct tape..a florida utility worker wus in the woods and he said he picked up the bag and her skull rolled out.
No other missing children in that county. It has to be her.
BRB AFK….
I hope they fry her…
Are they doing test right on the spot?
TY, I pray it is her to put and end to the lying ant’s.
I have a feeling this is it. Of course, I have no way of knowing this (not psychic) but I am so hoping she can have a proper burial and truth be told.
It has to be her.
I will check back later: duty calls again.
thanks so much for the quick run down.
Its her..cmon now..give me a break..its Caylee..God has answerd the prayers of many and brought that child to rest…its Caylee..her murderer admitted to her being close to home..she prolly walkd in them woods and chuckd her down ther..its Caylee..
Anna…They believe they found caylee practically in the back yard of the ants home….down the street on a dead end road with a school on it and woods/swampy marsh land off to one side of the road…skull and possibly bones found by a meter reader peeing in the woods…saw the bag kicked it and a skull belonging to a small child came out
maggott apparently used to party in the same woods…prob. had a beer and left caylee all alone and walked away.
Yes there is a forensic pathologist there in a mobit unit I think is what I read!!
She killed Caylee wrapped her in plastic and chuckd her in the woods…like trash..
Bumpy, it’s Dr. G right? , What I am asking is can they get DNA,Dental,ect right then and there and say yes or no if it’s Caylee’s remains? when they say 1-3 days. what exactly takes 1-3 days? Is there tests that can be done right now that says yes or no?
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Hey, Pickles…I’ve been fireflying for a bit… but just had to drop a line…looks like they found our baby, huh??
hi guys sad news indeed, I just caught headline news NG was on talking about the way they will find out if its cayleee…
are we moving to another blog? this one is taking like 2-3 minutes to post for me…
PAW - It was reported that DNA tests take 24-72 hours. I also read that until then, they can do other things, such as compare pictures of Caylee’s head to the skull. Sometimes they ID a body only based on that comparison.
Hope this helps–nobody knows anything yet, and this wait is so difficult.
As of of you, I have a heaviness of heart… we wanted so dearly to bring this precious baby home. But now it hurts so much.. it is still so hard to believe she is dead… although we ‘knew’ it, this just is too much…
I can hardly think of anything to say. I am so sad..and sick.
To think, she wrapped her BABY in plastic and bound it with duct tape..
OMG..
I hope she burns in hell for what she has done.
death penalty back on IMO…
she is losing her marbles now
how long now before we hear z did this?
anyone else think its highly weird the guy found this right out in the open? I want to know more about the area found, I mean was it right out where someone could find it? odd to me…
CIT, Thank You. I know NG will be busy tonight. I feel this is Caylee. I just hope we find out by tomorrow. Going the whole weekend without knowing will be very rough.
Pammy, It’s not odd. (It’s a swampy area and was also flooded due to hurricanes, which is why no one could search that specific area. The water has went down and at the same time has unearthed her.
the reporter kathy belich from the NG show just said this was an areas she herself and others walked through that it was heavily marsh type area… and that a [sychic had once stated this area should be looked in
pammy- how do i move to another blog? (forgive me, I’m not good at this!) i haven’t seen anything new posted by Jan or Simon yet today…?
and thank goodness its not just MY computer that’s dragging, so ANNOYING!
One of the news channels reported that they already have Caylee’s dna from the paternity test they did with Jesse Grund. It should not take long to identify the dna - only a day or two.
Basically her body came about , the same way Laci and Conner did.
The area was at one time under water, so could she have put her in the pond before it flooded, the decomp filled the bag with air, and it floated to the edge of the road? The man was relieving himself so he probably stepped a little into the woods, I hope. Nothing like a national news announcement on your personal habits.
emms, I posted the link above. Or put The Young and Restless into Blogger News Search and click on Dec. 9 episode.
This is one time that I’m glad a man pissed in the woods.
Dependent upon the outcome of the police investigation, if this is indeed Caylee, then Casey Anthony could be facing the death penalty in the State of Florida. To read all of the details,
I’m kinda curious how Baez’s conference will go, He actually looked kinda pissed off to me.
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as a grandmother who loves her grdchildren dearly, I would have been nervous and crying had I been on Larry King , I feel by the look in her eyes she now where Caylee is ,she is hiding something , Cindy ( Sindee) Anthony is not a greiving Gr Mother , she has done all that in the privacy of her home, yes as some of you have said she should be charged for with -holding information , she & George knew all along,
who knows Maybe they were waiting for a chance (when all blows over ) to retreive the body and Bury her in privacy?? just a thought,
Sindy looks very Guilty ,while watching both on L.K live last night , all they did was lie , Larry asked her if she thought Nancy Grace convicted Casey she said yes or absolutly ” to that affect .
she also said there are alot nancy graces out there , lol I pray its little Caylee so she can have a proper burial funeral & put (who Ever) behind Bars forever,
They’ve found her!
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It is article # 118934. It is an article about the Young and Restless soap opera but Jan and Simon (of BNN) let us move over there when the blog gets full and slow).
Just put that article number after bloggernews.net/ in your browser screen.
Be sure the usual http://www is in front of all of that.
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See you there!
Dear Heavenly Father please be with everyone today and in the hours to come as we wait for news of the identity of the body found today. Please be with the family of the young child. Also be with the families of missing children who will have to wait to see it if this is their loved one. We pray that finally the body of Caylee Marie Anthony has indeed been found. We want her brought home so she can be laid to rest with all the Love, Honor, Dignity, and Grace that she deserves. We pray that she knows that she will be forever loved and remembered here on earth by so very many people. Also we pray that her death not be in vain, that by this experience more of us go out and help make a difference in the life of children in our own communities. If we all step up and do our part maybe there will never be another lost angel who died at the hands of evil. All this we pray in Jesus Name. AMEN.
Search warrant ready for the house and yard again!
concernedforcaylee: what a beautiful prayer ,
breaks my heart, brought tears
No clothes found with the body. And Casey told Pedilla’s people, “They haven’t even found the clothes she was wearing yet.” Burt, Casey, Burt!
OOps! Make that Burn, Casey, Burn!
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Reading this article and the posted comments, I am revolted by the collective thrashing the Anthony family is receiving. I think anyone that has heard the details of the case can very quickly conclude that Casey is culpable and has committed a heinous crime. However I cannot understand why the Anthony family is being judged in such an unsympathetic and brutal manner. Casey’s parents are being condemned for going on talk shows and talking to the media as well as for not readily damning their daughter and proclaiming her guilt. Their media exposure has been about advocacy and not promotion, though people are confusing the two and treating them like rotten people for it. Somehow these are extraordinarily horrendous people for not acting according to social protocol when your daughter kills your granddaughter. Obviously every one of you people commenting as well as the writer of this article would handle the situation much more gracefully. Apparently nobody else is or has ever been afflicted with denial when it comes to acknowledging ugly truths about loved ones. What terribly flawed parents for allowing their own emotions to interfere with their ability to accept that their daughter committed infanticide. Now they even have the audacity to bask in the limelight, as this was clearly a great stroke of fortune that leads them to where they are today. It’s almost like people are envious of the amount of attention they are getting, disallowing them from empathizing with this poor family that must be unimaginably distraught and anguished. But since they are on TV – they are such lucky sons of guns. If everyone that is taking part in this trouncing of these incredibly unfortunate people can please take a minute to consider where they stand: they are people living a nightmare and should at least be afforded a crumb of empathy. Yes, even thought they get to be on TV.
Good thing Florida has the death penalty,I hope they use it.
Hello, where is everyone?
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