Obama Birth Certificate:
Denofrio v Wells Referred to Conference
By Full Court–Not Just Justice Thomas
Obama Birth Certificate News:
December 4 2008
The U.S. Supreme Court will consider tomorrow whether to take up Leo C. Denofrio’s lawsuit challenging President-elect Barack Obama’s U.S. citizenship, a continuation of a New Jersey case.
The justices will meet Friday, while the filer’s supporters will hold a vigil in Washington on the steps of the Supreme Court outside.
Leo Denofrio sued NJ Secretary of State Nina Wells over the eligibility of presidential candidates John McCain, Barack Obama and Roger Calero.
Calero isn’t even a U.S. citizen, yet appeared on NJ’s presidential ballot.
The Denofrio v. Wells case was actually referred to conference by the full Court, not just Justice Clarence Thomas.
From A little twist on Donofrio’s case. Keep your eyes open on December 5th!:
12/1/08 – Donofrio’s case in the Supreme Court was actually referred to conference by the full Court, not just Justice Clarence Thomas. Bob Vernon, from the Plains Radio Network, spoke with Patricia McCabe Estrada, Deputy Director of Pulic Information at the SCOTUS. She confirmed that Mr. Donofrio’s application was first referred to conference by Thomas on the 19th, but after that referral, the full Court distributed the application for Conference on December 5, 2008. Unusual. The docket was not clear to these facts.

* Obama Birth Certificate: Who Determines Presidential Constitutional Eligibility?
A number of lawsuits have been filed over the birth certificate and citizenship of Barack Obama. Are the courts the right place to determine the answer? If not the courts, who, what or where? What’s the correct procedures? We asked What’s Your Evidence to get some some evidence on who or what determines Constitutional presidential eligibility.
* Obama Birth Certificate: Status of Major Court Cases
Obama’s birth certificate: A number of lawsuits have been filed in state and federal courts. What’s the status on them? A look at four of the cases and where they are.
* There are fact-checking sites, and then there are sites that actually check facts. Annenberg FactCheck.org does a less-than-objective job of fact checking political questions: they’re heavy on attitude, substituting disdain and snarkiness for facts.
However, another fact-checking site fact checked Phillip Berg (of Berg v Obama): What’s Your Evidence?. It does a good job of sorting through the numerous claims with links to sources and WYE does a good job of sticking to the facts.
The original birth certificate of Barack Obama might not be questioned with such intensity–if only the Obama camp had released other pertinent records during the election campaign.
But the campaign chose not to release Obama’s medical, college, or university records.
This caused one newspaper to recently label Obama as “the man with no visible past”.
ALSO at DBKP:
The Obama Birth Certificate Questions
The Lack of Obama Records

* Obama Birth Certificate Forgery Story Heats up at World Net Daily
* Obama Birth Certificate, Citizenship: SCOTUS Conference Scheduled for Dec 5
* Obama Records: Obama Campaign Still Refuses to Release Medical, Other Records
* Obama College, Medical, Birth Records: Who is Barack Obama?
* Obama Birth Certificate Federal Lawsuit: The Curious Behavior of the Obama Campaign
* Obama, Bill Ayers, and FactCheck.Org: All Have Ties To Annenberg Foundation
Over a dozen lawsuits have been filed nationwide which ask the courts to make Barack Obama produce his original birth certificate for the courts.
World Net Daily, which has continued to pursue the story, has been devoting even more resources to the story in the days leading up to Obama’s certification by the Electoral College on December 15.
The Mainstream Media is starting to react to the story, after months of near-silence.
What is that reaction? Is it objective?
Which newspaper called Barack Obama “the man with no visible past?”
Continue reading: Obama Birth Certificate: SCOTUS Conference Set for Tomorrow
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Source: Obama Birth Certificate: SCOTUS Conference Set for Tomorrow
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackCan you imagine if it is true that Obama is not a US citizen. Factcheck would be done. No one would believe them. Of couse this is the lighter side of the case. It would be a test to see if the constituion is still a valid doc in the USA.
Obama should just be straight with American and show his birth certificate.
Mark
http://www.claritaslux.com/blog/is-obama-a-us-citizen/
oh boy moar truth crushing the right-wing. *gets popcorn*
lol the “child’s first name” part on the “certificate of live birth” part says “-lan” not barack. maybe his name isnt really barack either kthxbai
Why Is this not hitting national news?
Has anyone noticed that both parents on this certificate are Caucasian!!!
What a cover-up.
Another case of modern day KKK lynching a black man without viable
cause.
He should just show the vault copy of his birth certificate before he takes the oath of office, this will shadow his presidency forever if he doesnt. that said, I am tired of the claims that any guestions about obama are somehow racist in motive. You people do realize that the claim of the democrat parties long history of fighting for civil rights is bogus correct?? look them up..fought against ending slavery, instituted the Jim Crow laws, havent elected as many minorities or women to office as republicans etc etc etc. People who vote democrat are foolish, read the history and then ask yourself who is the party of hate and division. Clintons DOMA against gays is the latest, but hey…dont let facts effect how you will vote.
He won!!! Jsut accept it. A bunch of soar Loser!!! If I were Barack I would take my money leave this county and say the Hell with all of you. Find your own way to improve the economy, health care, Energy, and building relations with other countries. In my opinion America does not deserve such a great man.
What will the Obama haters do when Obama’s birth record is authenticated? Of course, not saying it would be, what if, as is very possible, the whole thing were brought into the open, and Obama as it turns out was born in Hawaii just as he said he was. Do you think they would believe it? Or would they continue on at it long after it became a dead issue?
Mary said: “If I were Barack I would take my money leave this county and say the Hell with all of you.”
Gosh, Mary, do you think that is possible? It would solve a lot of problems.
Yes he won,but if hes not eligible he cant be President,lets muse..Suppose we find out after he takes the oath of office hes not eligible and the head General of the Armed Forces ask the Supreme Court if they have to take orders from his a**…wtf???..LETS GET THIS SETTLED BEFORE HE TAKES OFFICE!! ARE YOU PEOPLE STUPID?
Not to mention if he’s not eligible he will be committing a crime if he even takes the oath of office,the only other way he can be president is we never fugging know one way or the other..wtf??…IS THIS STILL AMERICA MOTHER F’KERS?…I WANNA KNOW ONE WAY OR THE OTHER!!!
The DNC has made it impossible to really say that he will not be next president. They have set it up so that any real action would lead to riots, etc. Even though I did not vote for him, it will just kill our country to change the vote at this point. What we do need is to use this to expose the huge media bias and the fact that no one demands any disclosure from him. The records, his writings, his relationship with Odinga in Kenya, his school performance, his taped goodbye lunch for PLO operative….
At least if he were exposed even a little bit, people would not treat him like a God and would listen to what he is really saying about his “take” on our Constitution. At least he would be scrutinized to the point where real opposition to some of his disastrous policies could be heard.
This was setup by NWO. Question the origins of Obama, and have the Supreme Court SET A PRECEDENT. Next up, son of Nazi officer, Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger.
Get ready folks. “They ” want a micro-chipped society and a one world bank. Prepare.
Google operation paperclip.
People, The document on the RIGHT is not meant to be Obamas, its to show what a real Hawaiian Birth certificate looks like. The document on the LEFT is supposedly Obamas Certification of Live Birth, NOT a birth certificate like many people say. This is what fact check produced, again its not a original birth certificate.Notice how much information is in the document on the right, this an actual Birth Cert. (again, not Obamas). What he is refusing to do is show is actual Birth Certificate, like the one on the right.
Anyone can get theirs, its easy to do, start at the county clerk where you were born, if they don’t have it they will refer you to the Dept of Health or Dept. of Vital Statistics etc. in the state where you were born. Thousands of geneologists research these everyday, it is no problem to do. The document on the left has absolutley no proof if you are a naturalized or natural born citizen, you have to refer to the original Birth Cert.which is kept on file. I voted for Obama now a fact I regret because of this whole mess, he could have straightened this out very easily. I have lost a lot of respect for him.
Obama could end this by signing a release and paying $12.00 to produce his original birth certificate. Obama has spent over $500,000.00 with his legal team to seal all of his records.
The document he produced to factcheck and other sites is worthless for proving where he was born:
http://hawaii.gov/dhhl/applicants/appforms/applyhhl
In order to process your application, DHHL utilizes information that is found only on the original Certificate of Live Birth, which is either black or green. This is a more complete record of your birth than the Certification of Live Birth (a computer-generated printout). Submitting the original Certificate of Live Birth will save you time and money since the computer-generated Certification requires additional verification by DHHL.
Here is what it should look like and include the name of the hospital, name of the doctors, etc.
http://snarkybytes.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/06/hawaii-birth-certificate-1963.jpg
So Obama has produced a worthless document and obstinantly refuses to pay $12.00 and produce a legitimate birth certificate to end this crisis.
This is not new news. It has been around since last February. Only it was McCain that was being hounded by the press. Google and read the New York Times article in the New York Times on whether McCain meets the “natural born” standard. It was picked up by all of the major papers, covered on the news. At the same time in FEBRUARY Obama was being asked the same question. As now, there was a complete blackout in the press over this issue.
McCain did produced all of his records to the Senate and after review he was found under the law that he meet the “natural born citizen”.
http://www.opencongress.org/bill/110-sr511/text
Obama was present for this. Did he stand up and say, “Ladies and Gentlemen, I to have been asked this same question. As a Constitutional attorney I understand that this question needs to be answered before the election to avoid voter fraud and to avoid a crisis of an ineligible candidate being elected to the office of the President.”
Instead, Obama seals all of his records and produces a worthless document to factcheck and other sites. Obama could sign a release and pay $12.00 and make this go away. He refuses to do so.
There are now 30 law suits around the country, five at the Supreme Court and the press refuses to give this accurate coverage. Look at the Alan Keyes case in California Sacramento Superior Court Case 80000096, read the writ. If Obama is not shown to be a “natural born citizen” the court can order that the 55 California electoral votes be withheld. Any coverage on that?
magickj Idiots like you..OMG!!,THE SUPREME COURT WILL NOT SET A PRECEDENT!!!THE PRESIDENTIAL POWERS AND REGULATIONS ARE COVERED IN THE CONSTITUTION,AND IF THEY DO NOT TAKE A LOOK AT THIS THEY WILL HAVE FAILED IN THEIR DUTY AND SAVED THEMSELVES A LOT OF TROUBLE IN THE FUTURE,SO IF THEY MAKE HIM SHOW A BIRTH CERTIFICATE AND HE HAS ONE…. WHATS THE PROBLEM?
Any trouble or riots/deaths that happen will be on the DNC and BARRY,so if I was the DNC I would absolutely check Barry at the door before he takes the oath.
Do you know what’s Barack Obama’s LEAST favorite song? Bruce Springsteen’s “Born in the USA” !!
You gotta remember that if Hillary had any shot at being appointed President,Bryer and the ding bat Ginsberg will go along with a hearing..Barry better have a Birth Certificate and not have foreign aid on his schools records,or his a** is going to the rail baby!!
The threats of riots etc. are just meant to try to intimidate. Eventually he truth always comes out, on the very slim chance that hes not a natural citizen and still takes the oath everything he does will be void, his place in history will be a sad footnote in future history books, he’ll spend his entire term living in fear that today might be the day he’s found out. How could anyone live like that? The supreme court also has a tremendous weight on them if they do not once and for all prove his eligibilty, their places in history will be tarnished forever. Its in everyones best interest for him to just release his original Birth Certificate. Please, PE Obama JUST DO IT!
“moar” instead of “more’? “Soar” instead of “sore”?
Who are the uneducated ones here? Both of these posters back Obama, yet they cannot correctly spell two common words. Interesting.
Another one creeping….just more quotes from the Trib
http://www.newsmax.com/insidecover/obama_lawsuit/2008/12/04/158208.html
For the ignorant Obama-drones, it’s all about feelings, insults, threats, anything but logic, intelligence, rule of law. This is not a NEW issue, it has been discussed for months; it’s not our fault that the dominant leftist media has completely ignored it. Millions of letters, emails, faxes, phone calls have been made to politicians and news outlets urging them to look into this; dozens of lawsuits filed. But don’t worry, Obomobots, you’ll get your USURPER president, but 57 million of us won’t view him as legitimate.
The 57 million of you who are still sour about the election, who sat back for the last eight years and watched out nation go to shyt can go suck a greazy dyck.
Why do you hate America?
So all of you that are afraid of riots if they get the guts to ask for the proof and find out he is NOT a Natural Born Citizen. That is not a reason to throw away the constitution.
In the past the law abiding citizens have sat back and let the ruling class run over them. From what I am reading in many of the posts, the law abinding citizens will NOT sit out this one. If they find out that the ruling class does not abide by the law then there will be worse than riots.
If Obama can prove he is a Natural Born Citizen then I will stand behind him. If he keeps hiding behind the courts and they do not get to the bottom of this then I am with the citizens that will defend our constitution.
78% of USA trusts and supports Obama and his cabinet selections according to latest Gallup poll, Gen Jim Jones, a Republican, has shown his support of Obama and has promised to serve Obama and America. As a Marine, I know Jim Jones, he was commandant of USMC and is a hero and patriot. How dare you people insult Gen Jones by these false internet rumors, not only Jones but Gates has also promised full support and trust in Obama. Trust and support of Obama has been shown by many American patriots, Powell, Rice, McCain, Luger, Hagel, and countless others.Why don’t you rumor mongers leave the USA, you are anti-American and your hate for our future president is shameful. Just stay out of our way as we serv this great country with new found hope. I serve my country now you “born in Kenya” people need to lose your ignorance and begin to serve as well.
some of you have quoted World Net Daily articles in support of your delusions, so I thought you should look at the following WND site:
on August 23, 2008 A World Net Daily investigation into Obama’s birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document on Obama’s site to be authentic.
WND page still available (though not easily unless you know the link)
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214
however, this was not a popular story with their base readers and upset the true believers, so WND deleted it and returned to printing articles that dispute the Obama BC and archived the “authentic” story.
Good example of an ethical Christian news source!
explain that if you can dear deluded idiots!
What the liberal Obama apologists have failed to take into account is that the “birth certificate” on the left has already been proven to be a forgery generated by the folks at the DailyKos.
So, contine to call Republicans “sore losers” or what ever you want, but if someone is not legally eligble to be president, then the Constituion must be followed.
Then again, liberals are never much about following the Constitution…
the Donofrio case on Fridays Docket does not show any defendants lawyers(why?), it does not mention Obama and has no mention of Obama’s BC
it mentions Donfrio vs Nina Mitchell Wells, New Jersey Secretary of State, and in no way does it do what many of you think it does, if you “born in Kenya” fools are pinning your hopes on this case be prepared for a very big disappointment!
here is link to Docket, read it
http://origin.www.supremecourtus.gov/docket/08a407.htm
hey Chicken Sock Puppet, did you read World Net Daily said “no forgery”, I know you won’t read that will you:
on August 23, 2008 A World Net Daily investigation into Obama’s birth certificate utilizing forgery experts also found the document on Obama’s site to be authentic.
http://www.worldnetdaily.com/index.php?fa=PAGE.view&pageId=73214
it has nothing to do with the constitution, you anti-Americans don’t want Obama as president, too bad, most Americans do, why don’t you write to Obama’s cabinet selections and complain, or write to Hawaii and file charges that Hawaii is in on the scam, after all they sent afadavits to courts on this, and they forged Elvis’s death certificate, we all know Elvis lives on Maui with Big Foot, or file charges against US State Dept, they issued him a passport showing Hawaii birth, or just keep on being an idiot and follow internet rumors. My gues is talking to idiots like you are a waste of time. what will you say after Jan 29th?
Of course, the conspiracy goes so deep that the State of Hawaii has declared the authenticity of the birth certificate that it holds. These cases are the true abuses of our justice system.
By the way, has any other former candidate been forced to produce his/her birth certificate?
This is not an issue because it is simply someone making a loose accusation without any proof themselves. I suppose all of you upstanding Americans still believe that one is innocent until proven guilty. So there has been no credible proof provided by the accusers of President-elect Obama not being a citizen. Simply idiots screaming at the top of their lungs “He’s not a citizen. He’s not a citizen.” “And if he doesn’t prove it, then it proves my point.”
Well I have undeniable proof that all of you deniers are pedophiles. Now prove I am wrong.
Obama has an interesting track record with court involvement in his political career.
After Mel Reynolds was indicted for sex with a minor. Alice Palmer ran in a special
election to take his place in Congress. Alice palmer gave up her IL. Senate seat and
endorsed Obama who replaced her. Alice Palmer lost that special election for Reynold’s
seat and came back to run against Obama for her old seat in the IL. Senate primary.
Obama challenged Palmer’s nomination petition signatures and she was disqualified from
running. The media pressured the court for Blair Hull’s sealed divorce records and when
released showed he had a violent history and Obama won that primary. Obama ran against
Jack Ryan in 2004 Senate race. Obama petitioned the court ho have Ryan’s sealed divorce
records made public. Ryan’s divorce records revealed a sex scandal in Ryan’s past and he
withdrew from the Senate race. Allen Keyes ran as a stand in candidate at the last minute
and Obama won that Senate seat. So now with Allen Keyes challenging Obama’s eligibility
the cycle has come full circle. Obama is not above the political fray he’s in it…to win it.
Credit to him. The Petitioners want a copy of the vault certificate and the Obama team is not
going to give it up. It will take a court ruling and Obama has been there before. Obama has
been very smart and legally tactical to get where he is today. The voter has every right to
ask a candidate for documented reference without reproach. The media has failed to meet
the standard definition of journalism.
Obama has an interesting track record with court involvement in his political career.
After Mel Reynolds was indicted for sex with a minor. Alice Palmer ran in a special
election to take his place in Congress. Alice palmer gave up her IL. Senate seat and
endorsed Obama who replaced her. Alice Palmer lost that special election for Reynold’s
seat and came back to run against Obama for her old seat in the IL. Senate primary.
Obama challenged Palmer’s nomination petition signatures and she was disqualified from
running. The media pressured the court for Blair Hull’s sealed divorce records and when
released showed he had a violent history and Obama won that primary. Obama ran against
Jack Ryan in 2004 Senate race. Obama petitioned the court ho have Ryan’s sealed divorce
records made public. Ryan’s divorce records revealed a sex scandal in Ryan’s past and he
withdrew from the Senate race. Allen Keyes ran as a stand in candidate at the last minute
and Obama won that Senate seat. So now with Allen Keyes challenging Obama’s eligibility
the cycle has come full circle. Obama is not above the political fray he’s in it…to win it.
Credit to him. The Petitioners want a copy of the vault certificate and the Obama team is not
going to give it up. It will take a court ruling and Obama has been there before. Obama has
been very smart and legally tactical to get where he is today. The voter has every right to
ask a candidate for documented reference without reproach. The media has failed to meet
the standard definition of journalism.
For those on either side of this – tomorrow will be the start or the end.
The U.S. Supreme Court Justices are sworn – under oath to uphold The U.S. Constitution. If they fail to do so …. They – themselves can be held accountable and possibly charged with contempt.
This will not end until Obama releases said documents to satisfy the requirements of The U.S. Constitution.
This is not about what color he is and the racism charges are totally unwarranted. This is about eligibility under Constitutional guidelines. It’s about the law, remember the law? Mr. transparency in government needs to show some bona-fide proof of his real identity. Personally I would like to know under what nation’s passport did Barry Soetoro travel to Pakistan with in 1980 when American travel there was forbidden by the State Dept. I would also like to know how many legal name changes Baraq has had and I would like to see proper documentation. Show us the vault copy of his birth certificate, all of his passports and school records indicating nationality. I’ll be happy to accept him as my President provided he comes clean and is in accordance with the Constitution. BARRAK HUSSEIN OBAMA!
SHOW US THE PROPER DOCUMENTATION!
I’ve only seen the country go to “shyt” as the above Commie put it, in the last TWO YEARS since Comrade Pelosi, Comrade Reid and the others took over Congress and allowed Comrades Frank, Emanuel and other SOBs to run our economy into the ground because of their personal corruption and failed Socialist policies stemming from the CRE.
The NBC thing isn’t just a formality-it’s there to prevent a POTUS from having divided loyalties.
Also, his relationship to Odinga in Kenya is yet another Barack enigma…
I hope some of those commenting here read the actual docket and understand that Donofrio has nothing to do with the missing mysterious birth certificate, or the phony certification of live birth (did you know by the way Hawaii at the time of obama’s birth permitted a child born on foreign soil to be register in Hawaii up to one year after birth?)
At the time of obama jr’s birth – his father was a BRITISH citizen (as a Kenyan) therefore obama holds dual citizenship at birth – and is not a ‘natural born citizen’. dual citizenship equates to dual allegiance in the eyes of the framers of our constitution.
The Supreme Court is compelled to uphold the constitution –
Obama’s own website, book etc reference this fact – his father was a British citizen at the time of his birth.
I agree with the one premise that the law & the constituition must be adhered to.
Why would an honest man even want to hide his past and all records. That certainly raises questions as to “What does he have to hide?” He could bring back voter support by coming clean and releasing all information. The office of president of the USA is a public office and therefore anyone entering into that offce must provide all information about themselves. If he wants to be a private person, he should simply step aside and no one would be demanding information on his past. Perhaps he is a closet sleeper agent and the info he is hiding might expose the truth and he would be thrown out anyway.
I would not even do business with someone who refuses to answer the questions asked. Why does he need the court to hide the info. Sounds fishy to me. Come on B.O. come clean and be rid of the BO you now have. You will be no ones president without the truth.
Obama claims to have been born in Hawaii, his sister claims he was born in Kenya…..when he was born Hawaii was not even a state. Either way im like one of many wanting to know one way or another. I’m also wondering why CNN, FOX, ABC, CBS, NBC are not all over this……Fox is the only one with guts to investigate it. All the rest of the media outlets are in Obama’s camp. Lastly I hope the Whitehouse dentist can fix Michelle’s bottom lip.
So, it’s dec. 5th and my eyes are open. Hope you guys can stfu now.
Max said: “At the time of obama jr’s birth – his father was a BRITISH citizen (as a Kenyan) therefore obama holds dual citizenship at birth..
His father would have had to renounce his son’s American citizenship as the UK does not recognize dual citizenships.
The Certificate of live birth has been examined by numerous non-partisan orgs and has been deemed legit.
Hawaii became a state in `59, Obama was born in `61. so the “it wasn’t a state” bleatings are moot (and stupid).
The refusal to see reality by the wingnuts is almost scary, and the epitome of hypocrisy. From one side of your mouths you claim that Bush’s goc’t is the greatest one ever. Yet, out of the other side, you question Obama’s status, essentially saying that the Bush admin was so inept that it couldn’t even keep a supposed non-citizen from running for POTUS. So mush for that whole Homeland Security clusterfuck, yeah?
President Obama. Get used to saying it. Remember when we lefties bashed Bush? “He’s your president too!” you said. “To not support the president is treason!” you bleated. Well, he’s going to be YOUR president too, and I think that’s fucking hilarious. I only wish I could actually SEE all the heads explode.
Also, Ronald Reagan has ties to the Annenberg Foundation. So do a plethora of other Republicans. Funny you that factless drivel you point to doesn’t mention that.
Tools. Lol.
just in, Supreme Court to hear 2 cases, Donofrio is not one of them
Supreme Court Blog (link for wingnuts cuz they would not know about this site, all they want is rumors)
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/
now I imagine you will claim Supreme Court is in on the scam
as a note: a massive protest rally against Obama was called for todays court session, 14 people showed up!
here is list of all conferences to be discussed by Supreme Court on 12/05 and 12/08
SCOTUS quote “As always, the list contains the petitions on the Court’s paid docket that Tom has deemed to have a reasonable chance of being granted”
conferences on December 5 and December 12.
please carefully note
NO DONOFRIO, repeat NO DONOFRIO, Got it?
Supreme Court link:
http://www.scotusblog.com/wp/petitions-to-watch-conferences-of-12508-121208/
it’s bye bye to Donofrio not wait for Monday, got it?
come on wingnuts, what do you say?
When asking for proof of birth,its not about hate as some have said”obama haters” ITS ABOUT being honest with the american people, .if there is nothing to hide,than why has OBAMA not produced a cetificate.If he does not have it,its easy to obtain one, IF YOU ARE BORN IN THE USA. I’ts strange to me that He does not remember any hate preacing going on at his church,,nor knowledge of Aier,s Background,nor any of his affiliations with persons of questionable backgrounds,.where was he born is very importent for all Americans, washington not saying anything about this,and the news media has kept it very quiet, it seems THE left agenda folks want to distroy our country,and they just have about succeeded , MAY GOD HAVE MERCY ON THE U.S.A.
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