Comments on: Teen Boy Must ‘register as sex offender for life after having sex with his girlfriend’ http://www.bloggernews.net/118842 High-quality English language analysis and editorial writing on the news. Fri, 17 Feb 2012 10:35:44 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: Andrej Ruscak http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1771399 Andrej Ruscak Fri, 29 Oct 2010 01:32:56 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1771399 Well, I am quite happy, that we don't have anything like that in the European Union. Really. We have other freaky things, especially freedom of speech related (like that you can go to jail for issuing Mein Kampf, even for educational purposes), but not this... it's scary. I have a good friend, who has slept with a girl slightly under 15 (a legal age for sex in the whole EU), being 16 by that time. He didn't know it, but he was lucky that nobody called the cops. If they did, the procedure differs in each state, but generally he would have been given something like conditional punishment for 1 year or something and that's it. No lists, anything. We had been through the "blacklisting" period before, during Nazi, Fascist or Communist expansion. We know, what is it like. And with all due respect to America, which I admire in general, this is really horrible and makes America being similar to some harsh Islamic countries more than to the Western World. Well, I am quite happy, that we don’t have anything like that in the European Union. Really. We have other freaky things, especially freedom of speech related (like that you can go to jail for issuing Mein Kampf, even for educational purposes), but not this… it’s scary. I have a good friend, who has slept with a girl slightly under 15 (a legal age for sex in the whole EU), being 16 by that time. He didn’t know it, but he was lucky that nobody called the cops. If they did, the procedure differs in each state, but generally he would have been given something like conditional punishment for 1 year or something and that’s it. No lists, anything. We had been through the “blacklisting” period before, during Nazi, Fascist or Communist expansion. We know, what is it like. And with all due respect to America, which I admire in general, this is really horrible and makes America being similar to some harsh Islamic countries more than to the Western World.

]]> By: Steven http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1758120 Steven Sat, 02 Oct 2010 14:03:10 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1758120 As stunningly beautiful as America is, it is also essentially a police state. The country belongs to the police, no one else. Everywhere you go there are police - watching, watching, and waiting for any reason - for no reason - to jump on people. Consequently, the people of America are very nervous about everything - about parking their car, about driving too slowly, about crossing the road the wrong way, about sneezing without a permit, etc. If you walk down a street humming in Los Angeles for example, you are immediately considered to be suspicious. Once you're arrested, the courts always support whatever the police say regardless of what that is. In Europe, the police are very casual, and they don't threaten people because they seem to quite rightly think that most people don't actually intend to break the law. This gains the police respect. In Los Angeles, the police believe that everyone is guilty of intending to commit a major crime - to know is to be guilty,etc. Paris, London, Berlin and Rome have all struck me as being very safe cities, and not at all uptight, which is a contrasting relief against the pressures of some parts of the United States, especially the south states and some larger cities. As stunningly beautiful as America is, it is also essentially a police state. The country belongs to the police, no one else. Everywhere you go there are police - watching, watching, and waiting for any reason - for no reason - to jump on people. Consequently, the people of America are very nervous about everything - about parking their car, about driving too slowly, about crossing the road the wrong way, about sneezing without a permit, etc. If you walk down a street humming in Los Angeles for example, you are immediately considered to be suspicious. Once you’re arrested, the courts always support whatever the police say regardless of what that is. In Europe, the police are very casual, and they don’t threaten people because they seem to quite rightly think that most people don’t actually intend to break the law. This gains the police respect. In Los Angeles, the police believe that everyone is guilty of intending to commit a major crime - to know is to be guilty,etc. Paris, London, Berlin and Rome have all struck me as being very safe cities, and not at all uptight, which is a contrasting relief against the pressures of some parts of the United States, especially the south states and some larger cities.

]]> By: TexasAunt http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1673855 TexasAunt Tue, 15 Jun 2010 17:39:23 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1673855 This is happening in Texas too. Boy I know was 17, girl was 12 (and better developed than I was at 18). When his dad asked him "is she old enough, if not stay away from her", boy went to girl's mother and asked her permission. Girl's mother not only said yes, she asked him to move in with them and let them sleep together. Girl's sister, already an unwed mom at 16, didn't want girl in same situation so she called cops. Cops investigated, but waited until boy was 18 to file charges so he would be charged as an adult not juvenile. Harris Cty DA told him that he was being made an example of - which should be a crime in itself by the DA. And no example - no one even knows it happened except family. My question is if the crime is so bad, why wasn't the mother charged with anything? She's just as guilty as the boy. Now boy is in prison because the probation rules are impossible to succeed at, and will be a sex offender for rest of his life. I agree that the true predators should have life w/out parole sentences, but there are people using the laws to punish teens for having sex and ruining their lives. This zero tolerance is out of control! This is happening in Texas too. Boy I know was 17, girl was 12 (and better developed than I was at 18). When his dad asked him “is she old enough, if not stay away from her”, boy went to girl’s mother and asked her permission. Girl’s mother not only said yes, she asked him to move in with them and let them sleep together. Girl’s sister, already an unwed mom at 16, didn’t want girl in same situation so she called cops. Cops investigated, but waited until boy was 18 to file charges so he would be charged as an adult not juvenile. Harris Cty DA told him that he was being made an example of - which should be a crime in itself by the DA. And no example - no one even knows it happened except family.
My question is if the crime is so bad, why wasn’t the mother charged with anything? She’s just as guilty as the boy. Now boy is in prison because the probation rules are impossible to succeed at, and will be a sex offender for rest of his life.
I agree that the true predators should have life w/out parole sentences, but there are people using the laws to punish teens for having sex and ruining their lives. This zero tolerance is out of control!

]]> By: papana11 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1658164 papana11 Thu, 03 Jun 2010 01:09:38 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1658164 I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR SEXOFFENDER LAWS IN OKLAHOMA. WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT A SEXOFFENDER IS. SHOULD WE HAVE THE SAME LAW FOR SOME WHO URINATES OUTSIDE AND FOR SOMEONE WHO MOLESTS CHILDERN? NO!!!!!!!!! SOME THING IS WRONG WHEN WE HAVE THE SAME PUNISHMENT FOR THESE CRIMES! I THINK WE NEED TO CHANGE OUR SEXOFFENDER LAWS IN OKLAHOMA. WE NEED TO DECIDE WHAT A SEXOFFENDER IS. SHOULD WE HAVE THE SAME LAW FOR SOME WHO URINATES OUTSIDE AND FOR SOMEONE WHO MOLESTS CHILDERN? NO!!!!!!!!! SOME THING IS WRONG WHEN WE HAVE THE SAME PUNISHMENT FOR THESE CRIMES!

]]> By: Rob http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1427654 Rob Wed, 21 Oct 2009 21:19:59 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1427654 I have to say, I would expect no less from a state such as Oklahoma...who's denizens are dumb enough to repeatedly send Tom Coburn to the Senate, mandate the teaching of creationism in public schools and (until they were threatened with the removal of farm, oil and highway subsidies in the early 1990's) declare people with physical disabilities incompetent for such purposes as entering into contracts or executing legal documents. However, with that said, this problem doesn't only exist in Oklahoma. It exists here in Missouri and in several other states and is the result of what happens when politicians act in a knee-jerk way to a bonafide problem. As the father of two small children, I want to know where truly dangerous sex off3enders live. Hoever, without reforms, the registry is in danger of becoming irrelevant...How am I, as a dad, supposed to know who on that registry is truly dangerous and who simply was the victim of an overzealous or overly-moralistic prosecutor?? I have to say, I would expect no less from a state such as Oklahoma…who’s denizens are dumb enough to repeatedly send Tom Coburn to the Senate, mandate the teaching of creationism in public schools and (until they were threatened with the removal of farm, oil and highway subsidies in the early 1990’s) declare people with physical disabilities incompetent for such purposes as entering into contracts or executing legal documents.

However, with that said, this problem doesn’t only exist in Oklahoma. It exists here in Missouri and in several other states and is the result of what happens when politicians act in a knee-jerk way to a bonafide problem.

As the father of two small children, I want to know where truly dangerous sex off3enders live. Hoever, without reforms, the registry is in danger of becoming irrelevant…How am I, as a dad, supposed to know who on that registry is truly dangerous and who simply was the victim of an overzealous or overly-moralistic prosecutor??

]]> By: russell http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1402173 russell Sat, 05 Sep 2009 12:23:56 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1402173 This is insane. If the sex was consentual, and not forced, it may have been ill-advised but not a legal issue. Teens have sex, have always had sex, will always have sex. Get over it, America. It was a 'fling'. Something they wanted to do. I know that the laws structured to "protect" the kids are going to backfire and you are going to have worse problems than an occasional 'fling' by trying to enforce these absurd laws. The D.A. in this case obviously didn't get any when he was 16 and has a mal-developed brain. If I was this boy's parent, I'd make things happen off the record to this D.A. bastard. edited by BNN Editor This is insane. If the sex was consentual, and not forced, it may have been ill-advised but not a legal issue. Teens have sex, have always had sex, will always have sex. Get over it, America. It was a ‘fling’. Something they wanted to do. I know that the laws structured to “protect” the kids are going to backfire and you are going to have worse problems than an occasional ‘fling’ by trying to enforce these absurd laws. The D.A. in this case obviously didn’t get any when he was 16 and has a mal-developed brain. If I was this boy’s parent, I’d make things happen off the record to this D.A. bastard.

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]]> By: South Carolina http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1243436 South Carolina Fri, 22 May 2009 23:31:20 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1243436 The whole Sex Offender thing has gotten blown way out of proportion. I know of a case here in my city where a man had gotten locked out of his house and needed to use the restroom so he went behind his house to urinate in the bushes and was seen by a neighbor and now he has to register for the rest of his life. I think for the most part the Sex Offender statues are a great idea, but for real crimes of a Sex Offense such as rape and child molestation ect. But to see and hear people getting locked up because they slept with someone underage 14-16 ect where it was consensual and not forced, is totally ridiculous, if the parents are okay with it, then i dont think its any of the laws business. Now if it was forced or what not that's completely different. Now i think maybe a red flag needs to be raised if a 16 or 18 year old boy was sleeping with someone under the age of 12 per say. For the most part i hear alot of these horror stories and trials of ridiculous offenses falling under the Sex Offender list, like i said before it has gotten blown way out of proportion. Do we want to protect our kids from predators or Joe blow down the street who got locked out of his house and had a bathroom emergency? The Laws need to be Re-Analyzed and the Judicial System needs to learn when to mind their own business. Rape is one thing, Consent is another. The whole Sex Offender thing has gotten blown way out of proportion. I know of a case here in my city where a man had gotten locked out of his house and needed to use the restroom so he went behind his house to urinate in the bushes and was seen by a neighbor and now he has to register for the rest of his life. I think for the most part the Sex Offender statues are a great idea, but for real crimes of a Sex Offense such as rape and child molestation ect. But to see and hear people getting locked up because they slept with someone underage 14-16 ect where it was consensual and not forced, is totally ridiculous, if the parents are okay with it, then i dont think its any of the laws business. Now if it was forced or what not that’s completely different. Now i think maybe a red flag needs to be raised if a 16 or 18 year old boy was sleeping with someone under the age of 12 per say. For the most part i hear alot of these horror stories and trials of ridiculous offenses falling under the Sex Offender list, like i said before it has gotten blown way out of proportion. Do we want to protect our kids from predators or Joe blow down the street who got locked out of his house and had a bathroom emergency? The Laws need to be Re-Analyzed and the Judicial System needs to learn when to mind their own business. Rape is one thing, Consent is another.

]]> By: Delaware http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1176939 Delaware Thu, 30 Apr 2009 01:13:00 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1176939 Delaware not let any one off the sex offender registry unless they die. They have probation officer who just try to get them back in jail. Why even let them out on probation. Give them a straigt time. I thing it's Double jeperty , to spend life on the list after you have already did time for the crime when it comes to Romeo/ Juliet relationships. This state and others give birth control out to boys and girls free and Federal lawsay parent don't have the right to know , then how come they let parent say if the guy or girl raped their child ( even when the child says different ) Delaware not let any one off the sex offender registry unless they die.

They have probation officer who just try to get them back in jail. Why even let them out on probation. Give them a straigt time.
I thing it’s Double jeperty , to spend life on the list after you have already did time for the crime when it comes to Romeo/ Juliet relationships. This state and others give birth control out to boys and girls free and Federal lawsay parent don’t have the right to know , then how come they let parent say if the guy or girl raped their child ( even when the child says different )

]]> By: NativeMom http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1102279 NativeMom Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:53:38 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-1102279 I've seen similar situations, even one case where a 15 yr old pressed charges on her over 18 year old boyfriend after he broke up with her for another girl. She did is simply out of revenge. What's more concerning is that on Tribal Reservations there is not always adequate legal aid service available and young men can get railroaded in to the federal system. They are signing typed up (which they didn't type) statements while in custody. They are only thinking about getting out of jail, not the serious consequences of becoming a life -time sex offender and going in to a prison as a sex offender. Some laws need to be changed. These girls need to be charged too! I’ve seen similar situations, even one case where a 15 yr old pressed charges on her over 18 year old boyfriend after he broke up with her for another girl. She did is simply out of revenge. What’s more concerning is that on Tribal Reservations there is not always adequate legal aid service available and young men can get railroaded in to the federal system. They are signing typed up (which they didn’t type) statements while in custody. They are only thinking about getting out of jail, not the serious consequences of becoming a life -time sex offender and going in to a prison as a sex offender. Some laws need to be changed. These girls need to be charged too!

]]> By: Samuel http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-878652 Samuel Wed, 07 Jan 2009 05:18:06 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-878652 Though I agree the law needs to be changed, the federal law states that if any law is found to be broken (no matter what law) it is illegal not to prosecute or investigate. So basically law enforcers CAN NOT legally "pick their battles". If you would like to spell check your text box download the GOOGLE TOOLBAR (Mac AND PC) and add the "Spell Check" application (often comes already installed). Though I agree the law needs to be changed, the federal law states that if any law is found to be broken (no matter what law) it is illegal not to prosecute or investigate. So basically law enforcers CAN NOT legally “pick their battles”.

If you would like to spell check your text box download the GOOGLE TOOLBAR (Mac AND PC) and add the “Spell Check” application (often comes already installed).

]]> By: MSLGWCEO http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-810501 MSLGWCEO Sun, 07 Dec 2008 20:49:03 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-810501 I just came across two very important articles. We really need insight into the sex offender laws. So I'll post the links to them here. The first, "Sex Offender Expert Offers Coping Advice" http://cfcoklahoma.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=284:sex-offender-expert-offers-coping-advice&catid=38:news-articles&Itemid=80 The second, "Residency limits on sex offenders questioned." Patty Wetterling, was the keynote speaker. http://cfcoklahoma.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=280%3Aresidency-limits-on-sex-offenders-questioned&catid=37%3Alatest-news&Itemid=1 I just came across two very important articles. We really need insight into the sex offender laws. So I’ll post the links to them here.

The first, “Sex Offender Expert Offers Coping Advice”
http://cfcoklahoma.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=284:sex-offender-expert-offers-coping-advice&catid=38:news-articles&Itemid=80

The second, “Residency limits on sex offenders questioned.” Patty Wetterling, was the keynote speaker.
http://cfcoklahoma.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=280%3Aresidency-limits-on-sex-offenders-questioned&catid=37%3Alatest-news&Itemid=1

]]> By: Rich http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-801875 Rich Wed, 03 Dec 2008 07:45:57 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-801875 Since when is masterbation outdated? If he used the five knuckle schuffle maybe he wouldnt be in this mess. Since when is masterbation outdated?

If he used the five knuckle schuffle maybe he wouldnt be in this mess.

]]> By: Pickles http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-800859 Pickles Tue, 02 Dec 2008 20:58:24 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-800859 A spellcheck isnt that just grand....who cares bout ppl's spelling its the internet...Im sure there millions of ppl who cant spell fur the life of them and they manage just fine to be understood. A spellcheck isnt that just grand….who cares bout ppl’s spelling its the internet…Im sure there millions of ppl who cant spell fur the life of them and they manage just fine to be understood.

]]> By: MSLGWCEO http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-800618 MSLGWCEO Tue, 02 Dec 2008 18:51:05 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-800618 Not only children but the public registries are sweeping up people from 70 years ago. It's time for the public to demand these registries be repealed as they are doing more harm than good. It is impossible to tell who is what. "The man, fell in love with the woman. He was 18, she was 14, 70 YEARS AGO. They have been happily married ever since but that all may change if the United States Federal Government gets to have their way with them." http://cfcoklahoma.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=252:teen-love-turns-to-tragedy-sex-may-send-them-to-prison&catid=38:news-articles&Itemid=80 Not only children but the public registries are sweeping up people from 70 years ago. It’s time for the public to demand these registries be repealed as they are doing more harm than good. It is impossible to tell who is what.

“The man, fell in love with the woman. He was 18, she was 14, 70 YEARS AGO. They have been happily married ever since but that all may change if the United States Federal Government gets to have their way with them.”

http://cfcoklahoma.com/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=252:teen-love-turns-to-tragedy-sex-may-send-them-to-prison&catid=38:news-articles&Itemid=80

]]> By: Danna http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-800120 Danna Tue, 02 Dec 2008 13:58:09 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-800120 This is ridiculous. The girl lied about her age. Guess we better warn our teenagers to check ID & birth certificates. Wonder if any of these jerks that misused the law have any kids. This is ridiculous. The girl lied about her age. Guess we better warn our teenagers to check ID & birth certificates. Wonder if any of these jerks that misused the law have any kids.

]]> By: mytwocents http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-800014 mytwocents Tue, 02 Dec 2008 12:45:41 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-800014 SandRider, Don't worry. You don't need a spellcheck. We're interested in what you have to say and we'll manage to read it no matter what the spelling is like. So please go ahead and leave your comment! My comment is I agree: There needs to be an adjustment to this law or a change in how it is used so that it MEANS something and does what it was intended to do. SandRider, Don’t worry. You don’t need a spellcheck. We’re interested in what you have to say and we’ll manage to read it no matter what the spelling is like. So please go ahead and leave your comment!

My comment is I agree: There needs to be an adjustment to this law or a change in how it is used so that it MEANS something and does what it was intended to do.

]]> By: SandRider http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-799465 SandRider Tue, 02 Dec 2008 06:27:48 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-799465 Is there some way to add a spellcheck to your response box ? Is there some way to add a spellcheck to your response box ?

]]> By: Pickles http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-798959 Pickles Tue, 02 Dec 2008 01:30:53 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-798959 Its ridiculous...why are they even bothring that kid...the girl lied and consented to sex he is only a tweenager himself...its just ridiculous...I am sure there are other crimes they can be pursuing besides this...they do need to change the laws or choose there battles better.... Its ridiculous…why are they even bothring that kid…the girl lied and consented to sex he is only a tweenager himself…its just ridiculous…I am sure there are other crimes they can be pursuing besides this…they do need to change the laws or choose there battles better….

]]> By: anna http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-798693 anna Mon, 01 Dec 2008 23:01:45 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-798693 before i start i have 2 daughters, but i also think cince this girl lied and agreed to sex it is a totaly diffrent, shouldnt she get some punishment to, if he didnt force her why should he be the one to lose his dreams, maybee kids should cary ids and have to show them before having sex, it does take 2 and obviously the cops knew the girl lied whats this worl comming to , baby killers getting thier parents to lie for them, 8yr old charged with prmeditated murder and a registered sex offender for life for having sex with a girl who lied, hmm... before i start i have 2 daughters, but i also think cince this girl lied and agreed to sex it is a totaly diffrent, shouldnt she get some punishment to, if he didnt force her why should he be the one to lose his dreams, maybee kids should cary ids and have to show them before having sex, it does take 2 and obviously the cops knew the girl lied whats this worl comming to , baby killers getting thier parents to lie for them, 8yr old charged with prmeditated murder and a registered sex offender for life for having sex with a girl who lied, hmm…

]]> By: MSLGWCEO http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-798663 MSLGWCEO Mon, 01 Dec 2008 22:48:52 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/118842#comment-798663 So glad to see another paper carrying this news. We need to change these laws that do more harm than good. Please visit www.cfcoklahoma.org So glad to see another paper carrying this news. We need to change these laws that do more harm than good.
Please visit http://www.cfcoklahoma.org

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