Caylee Anthony:
Famous “No-Body” Convictions
The cases of Amanda Hartman, Casey Anthony, Caylee Anthony, Richard Crafts and Willie Crain
The case of the little missing three-year-old girl in Florida, Caylee Anthony, has riveted the nation. Caylee’s mother, Casey Anthony, has been charged with seven counts of first degree murder even though Caylee’s body hasn’t been found. DBKP takes a look at other similar cases and whether the Florida courts have enough evidence to convict Casey Anthony of first degree murder. Cases that include oil drums, crab traps, and a commercial chipper.
Caylee was first reported missing to the authorities in Orange County, Florida, on July 15 by Cindy Anthony, Caylee’s grandmother. According to CNN, Cindy had to “plead” with her daughter, Casey, to “tell her” where Caylee was. Casey purportedly told her mother that she, Casey, hadn’t seen her 3-year-old toddler for “31 days”.
Caylee’s mother was arrested on October 14th after a grand jury returned seven indictments of capital murder, aggravated child abuse, aggravated manslaughter of a child and four counts of providing false information to police.
An amber alert was issued for Caylee who has now been missing since June. Forensics will play a key part in the case against Casey Anthony: cadaver dogs picked up the scent of death in Casey’s car as well as the backyard of her parent’s home. Preliminary testing of air and carpet samples in the trunk of the car found evidence of human decompisition, along with an “an unusually large concentration of chloroform”. Other evidence against Casey include a neighbor who told police that she had asked to borrow a shovel.
Casey’s lifestyle at the time of Caylee’s disapearance may come into play: Casey spent a majority of her time partying in clubs and never mentioned that her daughter was missing. It was only until her mother and brother pleaded with her to tell where Caylee was that Casey gave a convulated story about leaving her with a babysitter. An investigation by the police found that the story Casey gave about the babysitter was false: an address she supplied resulted in an empty apartment, the “babysitter” turned out to be a woman who had never met Casey. Casey Anthony insists that her daughter is still alive. Her mother also maintains her daughter is innocent, even though it was her mother who first reported to authorities that her daughter’s car “smells like a dead body”.
According to FOX New’s Greta Van Sustern, two dates are key to the investigation: on June 18, a neighbor observed Casey back up her car into her parent’s driveway, something the neighbor had never seen before. What’s also important to note is that Casey and Caylee were living with her parents at the time of the little girl’s dissappearance. The same day, Casey borrowed a shovel from a neighbor. The car which Casey drove belonged to her grandparents. On June 24, Casey’s father allegedly wanted to open the trunk of the car and was met with “resistance” from Casey. When he opened the trunk he discovered gas cans that he had thought were “stolen” from a shed in the backyard. On June 27, the car was abandoned and towed to an impound lot. The Anthony family recovered the car on July 15. It was then that Casey’s mother, a nurse, noticed the car smelled like a “dead body”.
The Florida prosecutors that will try Casey Anthony for the first degree murder of her daughter are faced with the task of trying a case without the victim’s body nor any evidence as to the cause of death. Conviction for first degree murder in the Florida courts requires that the prosecution prove their case “beyond a reasonable doubt”. Even so, there have been similar cases that led to a murder conviction.
What are a few of these cases–that involved oil drums, crab traps and a commercial wood chipper?
Continue reading: The Caylee Anthony Case: Capital Murder Convictions Without a Body
by Mondo Frazier/LBG
Source: The Caylee Anthony Case: Capital Murder Convictions Without a Body
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackDid the trunk smell on June 24th? Is that true that her father found the cans? I thought she didn’t let him in there. Anyone?
Hi, Kelly…yes, I’m pretty sure that her father did find the cans…cuz when he kept pressuring m…she got belligerent w/ him and said here are your cans…or something like that!! Not sure about the smell tho…
Something is so wrong with this whole story. Cindy & George are delusional!!!! They need to be charged with obstruction of justice in so many ways. Come on people!!!! This has gone on too long. Cindy & George are just about as guilty as Casey. Wake up Cindy & George!!!!!
Hmm I don’t think he ever saw inside the trunk though. At least I don’t think he did. I think she must have gotten the cans and handed them to her father. Either way, did she use the gas to burn evidence or to fuel her car because she had no money? If she was burning evidence she would have probably thrown the cans in the fire too. Who knows with her.
On the documents released of Anthony ( Father) .. testifying he said that he was going to get the cans from teh trunk but ..Casey ran pasted him and pulled them out with out. He stated that he did not get to see what was inside .. he also stated that casey was upset abut hi6 going to to get them from the trunk and .. after she drove off ..
It is also belived that this is why he was asked to testify at the grand jury hearing ( which is a seal testimony)..
Emmy…it seems to me G is waking up…or for the comments released today…was never totally asleep…but I believe C is gone…has made the turn around the bend…never to come back again…
She was 2 when she was killed. Why does everyone say 3 years old?
There are a few bloggers, who believed all along that m had killed little Caylee… they are the ones that refer to her as 2…the others will keep saying 3 until they find the body…I suppose…
I think that G believes Casey is guilty. I think he just doesnt want to say that because he doesnt want to hurt Cindy even more. Cindy is grasping at any little bit of hope that Caylee is still alive. She doesnt want to believe that Casey would harm Caylee or that Caylee is dead. You want to believe your loved ones.. and you would never want to believe that your child would kill your grandchild. The best example I can give is when a spouse cheats on you, you have all the clues and all the evidence but yet you still believe them when they say they didnt. But in your heart and mind you know they did. I really hope and pray that they find this precious baby girl’s body this weekend and she can be put to rest with respect and everyone can have closure. America has grown to love Caylee and Casey needs to pay for what she did.
I think anyone could can believe that the child’s death was accidental is very naive. Given the *if* she died as a result of an accident, does anyone really believe her mama would have remained so unconcerned. Would she have been resentful of everyone’s concern for the missing child, i.e. “seems all everyone is interested in is finding Caylee.” Think she’d have been so ecstatically overjoyed, out clubbing, having the “greatest sex ever.” If a tragic “accident” had occurred, casey would have reported it immediately with an explanation of exactly how it had happened. Her foremost intent would have been to eliminate any chance of deliberate involvement She’s bright enough to know the consequences of disclosing the truth.
An innocent and intelligent child faced the most ghastly horror one can ever know: Mama, what are you doing? Please, Mama, No! I can’t breathe! No, No! Let me go, please!
Fact is, no punishment any court or judge can impose can ever compare to spending an eternity in hell from which there is no pardon and no parole. I know that Caylee is in heaven, along with all other innocent children. Belief in the afterlife is not a selective issue: If there were not a hell awaiting non-believers, likewise there would be no heaven for the innocent children and for those who accept salvation through trust in the Lord.
Flash I culdnt of said it better muhself!!!
She got into the trunk and tossd one of the cans to g I dunt kno if they ever got the other can bak..she wuldnt let g near the trunk of the car
I believe in the resurrection of the soul and our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ I believe that Caylee is in the arms of her/our creator as we speak..I believe m will pay for her crime against that child and I believe she to will meet her maker on her way to the second fire…I have faith in God our father…he will see justice thru…
Bless their hearts..George and Cindy Anthony..Their world has been changed and rearranged forever. They know that their own daughter has taken the most precious gift God ever gave them away. And now, very soon, they will have no choice but to accept this harsh reality. George is the ultimate hero here. In my eyes, he ’saw’ how his wife, Casey’s mom and Caylee’s grandmother, reacted to the death smell. He saw that she could not and would not hear that Casey killed Caylee. He is holding on to his wife, the mother of his child and, and the grandmother to their only grandchild. What a devastating way to live..without hope and pretending that there is to keep Cindy ‘alive’. We must pray for George and for Cindy. The day of Caylee’s homecoming is very near. The way things are going,it wouldn’t surprise me in the least for Casey to finally tell that Caylee’s death was an accident. ( just so she would not/may not face the death penalty). How devastating it has to be for Cindy, as a nurse, to even fathom that Casey created chlorophom to sedate Caylee. Cindy knows that Caylee just didn’t go to sleep, as we all would like to believe. I am just praying for strength for George and for Cindy as they face the truth. I have maintained hard and steady that it is the unknowing that is so unmerciful. My Heather was abducted August 26, 1995 and we still don’t know where she is. After feeling the Anthony’s pain and seeing how they are dealing with this, I’m quite sure that this knowing will be beyond devastating for them. They have allowed themselves to become one of ‘us’. Few of us can ‘go there’ in our hearts, but I can. http://www.WhereIsHeatherTeague.com
I’ve posted in several blogs how tough it is on a daily basis for Cindy to open a cabinet and see Caylee’s empty sippy cup. George is there and he probably has taken them all away, so Cindy cannot see. Caylee’s bed is empty. And Casey’s car smelled like ‘death’. George is protecting his family as he should and my heart breaks for them all.
From reading the documents; especially George Anthony’s, I can see that he is being honest with the Detectives. I think he feels a great need to protect his wife and his son for the outcome of what is the end result. I think he has been put in a position that he had to go with the motions and try his best to reason with a wife that is just not going to believe the truth because she is just not strong enough. To hold on to the dilusion of Caylee being alive is what is keeping Cindy Anthony going as I think if she hesitates for one moment it will make her fall. She is trying to stay strong for Casey for some unknown mother reason. Possibly there is a great deal of guilt and confusion as to what has taken place and they blame themselves for not checking up more or getting in her face more than they already had and feel responsible. With the advice of their lawyer they have to stand united and say they believe Casey is alive as not to hurt Casey’s case and possibly their own. George even mentioned how Baez coached them on how to act before taking the stand but they didn’t because at that time early on in the case they were still hopefull. I believe lawyers are sinister in their efforts to get a strong convincing case against the prosecution. George is trying to be a father and grandfather but he also knows the detective side of things and I believe he knows something terrible happened he is just keep a strong front to hold the rest of them up.
I have always believed in my gut that M left the house on the 15 of june after M got into a fight with C… Tony stated that M called and wanted to go back to Tony place but Tony said it was fine but not with Caylee…
I think that was the nail in the coffin for Caylee… To think that M had no place to go after C throws her out and here she is with a 2 year old child not potty trained yet, and her new boyfriend doesn’t want the little girl over…
I don’t believe the Ants when they say that CAylee and M say home that night of the 15 and there in the morning….
If M2C or CAt can confirm to me when the calls from M phone went crazy on the 16 of June to her parnets, and give me the TIME that they went out, so I can piece together something in my head.. LOL
SARAH. THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR POSTING. THIS DOES (FOR ME) BRING ME TO WANT TO LOOK DEEPER IN CINDY AND GEORGE HEART AT WHAT THEY MAY BE FEELING. IT IS HARD FOR THOSE OF US FOLLOWING THIS CASE TO FEEL FOR THE ANTS. BECAUSE OF THE LIES AND DENIAL.
MY PRAYERS AND HEART ARE WITH YOU IN YOUR SEARCH FOR YOUR DAUGHTER.
(((((HUGGS)))))
I read in one of the articles that when G got home C said, What is that dam smell and she looked at him and said it is the pizza, right and he said yes knowing that the possible truth of what he thought it was could be bad. He thought it smelt of death.
He was trying to protect C.
I also saw that he asked the LE if they found anything to please call him first and let him break it to C and L.
WOW NITA. MAYBE HE HAS A BETTER HEAD ON HE SHOLDERS THAN WE GIVE HE CREDIT FOR
Mama I know! That was in the new documents released today.
It almost sounds like he knew that C would lose it, perhaps she has had some emotional issues to dealwith recently and he was protecting her.
OH!
And he stated that M would be the one, cant rememer his words, but was stated like she would lie and then lie on top and never tell the truth just so she could win and that he was worried.
GUESS I AM CALMING DOWN SOME ON THE ANTS. ESP G. I WOULD HATE TO BE IN HIS SHOES.
Some interesting reading..
“After we pulled inside the garage … her exact words were, ‘Jesus Christ what died?’” George Anthony told police. “That’s exactly what she said. But then she said it in a way, she says, ‘George, it was the pizza right?’ And I said, ‘Yeah, it was the pizza.’
“And that’s what I left it go at that, but, I’m sitting here as the grandfather, as the father, as George Anthony and as a guy who smelled the smell before years ago, and you just never forget it. I even stuck my nose down on it and I’m, I’m concerned.”
George Anthony also admitted to detectives that Casey Anthony lived life on the edge, but said he was shocked to hear that his daughter was partying at Fusion, an Orlando nightclub, during the first month after Caylee’s disappearance.
Also, in an interview with an Orange County sheriff’s detective, George Anthony said his daughter had once told him that she was robbed at gunpoint while she was working at Sports Authority. George Anthony said he confronted the manager of the store about the incident only to be told that Casey Anthony never worked there.
I have watched the blog and think that this is a wonderful place! You all seem so genuine in looking and finding that little one.
Hi guys
Just wanted to pop in a minute and thank Gums for the link to Fox news. The docs don’t all look so new, but I had not seen the EZPass receipts that are in G’s name - the whole family used the same account.
Interesting - there are days in late July (22, 26, 28) where both G’s car and C’s car are entering and exiting the Boggy Creek Road exit. Dont see that exit used much other than that (except maybe if the toll for that exit was passed it looks like) hmmm…..see y’all later!
i think george knew all along caylee was dead,he was a cop, a cops intuitions never leaves them,just like a mothers,he knew when he smell that decomposition smell from the car
OMG NITA. DAM
Sarahs post…eye opening at the very least and heartbreaking…no mother should NOT know where her child is…no grandfather or grandmother…thanks for putting their position into perspective…for those of us who don’t know the pain and hell and critisize first …in our own pain and lack of answers.
God bless Heather Teague and her family!
AWWWWWWW WELCOME MSGIRL. GLAD U B HERE WID US.
LATERS BEANS………
mamabear…i didn’t realize you were here..i was on the other one…duh!…hugs
flowerchild said,in November 6th, 2008 at 7:36 pm i think george knew all along caylee was dead,he was a cop, a cops intuitions never leaves them,just like a mothers,he knew when he smell that decomposition smell from the car
I agree! I think that the released documents today only show that and I think that he was out standing at the site whre they think the body is probably praying that Tim and all the wonderful volunteers find her and bring this to an end.
Welp today was interesting to say the least..the defense team made a half a~~ confession for a sociopathic woman that overdruggd her own daughter due to pdd so that she culd go and get laid…then they drug out some grainy crap pictures of her to spare her life from death row…I feel sooo draind…I was talkn to a lady at muh sons school about it today and it wus just amazing how its capturd everyone across the nation…She must be held responsible for this crime…because no where in America is it ok to drug your small child with anytype of sedatives be it out of a RX bottle or a bleach bottle…and no where in America is it ok to leave your small child in the trunk of a car sedated so that you can go and live the high life…NO WHERE it is not acceptable..then to slap us yet again in the face and claim post pardom depression….like the rest of the loser woman who have murdered there children. Its not ok nor will we as a public sit idly by and accept it…Id like to find out what we can do as a ppl with a voice and a heart to help educate and inform other “young women” so that we never ever have to endure the emotional strain and rollercoastr that this young woman has burdend us with..It may sound stoopd but I today am drained and broken…and I dont even kno these ppl..I have never met that child that I wunt to take into my arms and cherish forever..I have never met them yet they have totally turnd mine and all of our worlds upside down…There has to be something we as a group can do…
I postd it over there but you all appear to be hear so im gunna repeat it here…I feel like a shell today..an empty shell!!!
been really sad and crying looking at pics of our baby….her little orange swimsuit…her little bruises on her legs cause she’s in such a hurry to play…(((((need my mambear hug))))
I THINK SO MSGIRL. MY EMOTIONS TODAY HAS BEEN SO UP AND DOWN THAT MY BUTT IS GITTIN SORE
AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW…… CA
(((((HUGGS))))) SWEETIE
MAMA, It is sad that it is taking all this to truly find out what we already know just because M is a liar and can not admit the truth no matter who she hurts
I just cant stop the tears this evening…my children are soo precious and every child for that matter….I will never ever take a second with my kids for grantd…never…I thank God every second of the day that I am educated enuff to know the difference between true love and self love!!!
I agree with everyone!
I have a picture of my gbaby’s first Halloween and she is ladybug and sitting there chewing on her little hand wanting to walk away before the pic is taken and I just can not understand it…
Bump said” I today am drained and broken…and I dont even kno these ppl..I have never met that child that I wunt to take into my arms and cherish forever.
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me and you on the same page as usual…I am off the charts today…more then ever…
Oh they have admittd the truth…but in a backwards way…she killd her cus she accidentally felt depressd so she needed to go out and have a good time with her bf so her depression led her to over sedate her child wich accidentally led th the childs demise..thats there story… ITS NOT OK!!! I cant stand it…i just cant…not one bit…Caylee needed help and her own mother wuldnt help just …uhhhh its to much….
omg…bump..me too…I have been in tears for about 1.5 hours now off and on…can’t stop…this is new…
I don;t CARE how young M is OR that she has not been in trouble before, which if they try the fraud charges first, she has! NO ONE has a right to do what she did and even if an accident he shouldn;t have been giving drugs not prescribed by doc or over the counter to that little girl!
Bumo I love what you said! You are sooooo right!
hubby sits here with me…what’s wrong…I just look at him and he knows…
and why is defense so hot to trot to bring out the a unwitted accidental death now,is that suppose to help casey, i think not not after all this time,when she claimed caylee was alive and safe,do they think people are stupid,and her non cooperation with police on her childs wherebouts,fact she killed her and covered it up,so she should be held accountable for that
My daughter got a penny lodged in her throat once and she stoppd breathing for like 20 sec..she turnd blue and red and purple and I prayd like there wus no tomorrow to the Lord to help us get it out..and of course the penny came out…but her struggling to breath and changing colors from the asphyxation still to this day scares the h~~ outta me…and to think that that young woman culd do that purposly and intentionally just kills me…I HATE HER…I WISH CAYLEE WAS MY OWN…cus I wulda lovd her…today suckd!!!
Flower I think it was all strategy to keep her off the death penalty because they didn;t know all the state had. Now I see that the state may give up death penalty afraid they may not have enough for that.
I think it was all a lawyer move and that her team knew she was guilty.
BEAST——-GIVE ME LIL CA A BEAR HUG.
Did anyone read the article that she even lied to BB?
G stated in his interview that she lies alot and she even lied to BB and told him that she had $5000.00 to pay him and then didn;t pay him and told him she would pay him once she was in the clear.
Sat. is gonna be such high emotion with anticipation and if they don’t find our princess on sat. what a crash that will be ..either way we are in for a ride …
I WENT THRU SAME WITH MY BABY BUMP ONLY WAS FFs
CA I agree Saturday will be emotional. Remember everyone that I had a good vibe about SAturday soince it s my anniversary that something big will happen!
Is Sharon searching? Who elase is searching?
Its just to much…I wish we culd confront her…sue her not for monitary gain but just to sho her what she has done…you kno at least andrea yates took responsibility for her actions she shulda got the chair..but she admittd to what she did…I am so glad that my parents beat common sense into me..they whippd me to learn me..that this kind of thing is not ok…and I thank them for that..tough love..not sweepn under the rug..no covering up my actions..when I did wrong I was punishd..and I am grateful…Im not as hard on my own children as my folks were on me..but they do know right from wrong as much as a 7 and 2 year old can comprehend…and as they gro so will there comprehension of right and wrong..I will not raise a young woman like the anthonys have…never!!
i feel she should get the death penalty and whoever said i don’t care how young she is they are right,caylee was two,casey took her childhood away from her,so casey’s right to live should be taken from her to,she took the life of a innocent child by murder are a unwitted accident,bullshit theory anyway
Anita…Happy Anniversary so I don’t forget in my haze on sat..
ME 2 NITA………H/A
thank you CA! It will be our 17th year.
I hope that I get the best thing ever as a gift which would be Caylee coming home!
Does anyone know if Sharon is searching and who else is searching?
If Caylee wus old enuff for sedative drugs then that killr is old enuff for the death penalty and thats the only way to see it eye for and eye I think she shuld get the needle..
Bump did you see the movie Eye for Eye! GOD
I LOVE WHAT SHE DID TO HIM!
Thanks MAMA
NG on!
NG says leak says prosecutors will not seek the death penalty!
Yes Flower I agree if Caylee was old enuff to be given RX sedatives or home made chlorie than killr is old enuff for death row..plain and simple eye for an eye…she shuld get the needle…almost the same equivalency!!
bump..yes she should get the needle after she spends about 20 years in gen pop…if she gets needle she is in protective …too good for maggott. she needs to fear for her life every f’ing day not just needle day
NG ON.. LATERS
Damn that went twice…PAMMYLIZ I am the new blog whore..ahahaha you better get in here and start double postn again or Im stealn yus title…
Oh yah general pop..thats right and you kno by now all them inmates have seen Caylee all over the tv during recreation time so they all kno killr and our precious girl…they all kno..I bet there countn down the days till fresh fish gets her sentence….
so LE dont have enuff for death penalty aint that a b~~ got them to cought up the truth and they aint even goin for death..ahahahaha nice defense team..
Man I guess her crak defense team jumpd the gun on that one…ahahahaha whatta burn they dont even have enuff for the death penalty…ahahahaha they spilld the beans b4 the ball wus in there court…ahahahahaha burn on you killr!!!
I think its great how shes really workn the whole ppd card cus “If Caylee is dead then blah blah blah” Cus woman who kill ther children due to ppd usually dont have an recoglection of killing there child its blockd out..due to the brain disorder…yah killr play it up for the crowd…you go gir.!!
PLUS BUMP–THEY BE 2 TIRED TO GO PARTY
did i just hear nejames state on ng that caylee is no longer with us, i swear i heard that he said that can anyone confirm that?
i didn’t hear that flower? I was watchin…but i might have missed it.
when ng was asking him about tim search for caylee, i swear i did hear that
Xactly they have no umph to do anything like Cecy said they dont myspace,facebook,shop,party,go out clubbing none of that…she is gonna play it like a fine tuned fiddle tho..oh “IF Caylee is dead” wich is her admission to ppd cus true ppd sufferers who happen to kill there kids dont realize or remember the act of killing there child(ren) andrea yates for example (supposedly) didnt realize it at all until her husband got home and freakd the heck out….me I think she knew…I mean cmon after the first or second kid drowning cmon youd wake out of yur trance !! so killr is playin the card right at least now..when it matters for her life…the rest tho the actions while she wus free and free of Caylee thats gunna speak loud..that aint ppd…thats homocidal…there gunna see straight thru her..shes transparent…
He prolly did say it..The cat is out of the bag Im sure they all are just rearin to say it to the world that Caylee is dead pheew we can end the charade.bak to norml now..how do we make killr’s life in the pen easier..I kno lets get her a tv..f~~~ that skank
Hi all!!!
As you can tell, I am no longer a ‘firefly’!!!! The closer it gets to bringing our baby home, the more pissed off I get…
As i said before, the PD defense is downright nuts. This will be such a bittersweet momment for all involved.. I pray that God will carry each searcher very close to His heart. This case has brought many people together, all of which woud have gladly taken Caylee into our homes, as she has brought all us into our hearts..
May God be with each searcher, please pray that she will be brought home soon..
luv each and everyone of you.. God has a special place in his Kingdom for those who fight for justice…
HE DID SAY IT
HEY LILRED……..
he said it–may have been prefacing a hypothetical statement–but he said it
AWWWWW. LILRED. GET IN HERE GIRL — SPREAD U LIL LIGHT
(((((HUGGS)))))
hi everybody. Sorry I didn’t greet you.
I THINK IT’S LIKE BUMP SAID. CATS OUTTA THE BAG
HEYY GUMS-HE-HE
WINK
mamabear..what did count say exactly..?
Of course he said it…her crak defense team allready made the hypothetical confession just like any other loser mother with ppd wuld have us believe that IF the child is dead this is how the mother unknowingly killd the child..thats how all ppd killrs tell it..I didnt realize I killd my child ooh poor pitty me I didnt mean to drown all 5 of my kids I didnt realize it IF they are dead then this is how I accidentally killd them!!
Heyo Gumshoe..aintitso today wus a crazy day in the anthony circus…poor Caylee poor poor Caylee the one person who was put on this earth to protect her killd her left her to die…poor Caylee…
Defense is worried about what to do and say Saturday when thousands of searchers strike out on a mission to find Caylee, and the point at which one calls out in the stillness “FOUND SOMETHING!”
he said it when nancy was asking him about george and that george got sick when being question about the smell,and then about the search for caylee and tim meeting with george and cindy he said caylee is no longer with us and that cindy and george crying about the search for her remains
OOPs I was so depressed that I forgot that I accidentally smotherd her with homemade chloroform oops I accidentally forgot thru my depression that I tossed her in the trunk to sleep cus I was soo emotionally distraught that I culdnt go see my bf with her in tow..did I mention that IF she is dead thats how I accidentally ment to kill her due to my ppd..oops..my bad…
Flower they were crying today ?? recently so thay have come to terms with it..see the cat is out of the bag…they all kno…we my friends are geniouses..we all knew months ago that that is how she did it…even Gumshoe said Caylee took her last breath in the trunk of that car…memba that way bak in Aug…
See its about time they admittd it now maybe c and g can mourn and grieve for this child and let go of killr..let her fend for herself…finally they have takn off the blinders…finally!!!
OMG—–PADDY AND COUNT………..
Waht MAMA what about them??? sumthin good???
NeJame pitching a fit with NG
LMFFAO
WHOA! NeJame is pissed and so is Nancy
PADDY DIDNT EVEN GET TO TALK……………
HE JUST SAT THERE AND GRINED
Love Paddy
wow knock out drama on ng nejames and nancy coming to blows LMAO
NG telling NeJame he lied and NeJame hollering “Don’t you call me a liar!”
nejames accusing ng on making money on caylee’s death,boy did he piss her off
Mama, email Paddy and tell him he did good on NG tonight.
they gonna kill each other
NeJame says Ants aren’t candidates for polygraph because C is on meds. What is G on?
OVER 250 TEAM LEADERS
They gonna find our baby Mama
YUP…. FERSURE GUMS
AM FEELING SO MUCH BETTER NOW.
EVEN C AND G MET WITH TIM TODAY
I BET G IS SO RELEIVED
C has got to be losing her mind right now. Poor G.
I KNOW. BET SHE GOES TO NUT HOUSE SOON.
Maybe C is ready to accept it.
I LOVE ME LIL PADDY. HE IS RELEIVED 2. I CAN SEE IT IN HE FACE.
good evening ladies…wooo those were some heated words between NG and the count LMAO !
NeJame called Padilla P T Barnum earlier and NG gave him a chance to reply just now. Padilla said “well, Barnum’s biggest act was Tom Thumb” NG said “what does that mean?” Padilla said “well, who else is sitting here on your show?”
love it
to start with the count was rude and then when NG cut him off he started crying about her being rude
i am so pissed off nejames backtracking on why cindy can’t take a poly, what she might have a seizure if she accidentally told the truth
I never in my life heard that somebody couldn’t take a poly because they were on meds. That knocks out 99% of the population doesnt it?
besdes, i believe caylee would fit into a size 6, she was a big little girl, 3 feet tall for a 3 year old little girl is tall
They don’t have a machine strong enough to withstand a poly with M. It would blow the roof off the bldg.
G SAID HE HAS TRIED TO PUT HE HAND OVER C’S MOUTH TO SHUT HER UP. OMG
i don’t know about todays poly tests, but i’ve heard that if a person is on sedatives they could lie and it not be detected, i think i heard that on dr. phil, or maury povich
HEY BRI
GOT SO BEHIND HERE. WAS READING G’S TEST.
hi mamabear…isn’t 3 feet tall for a little girl only 3 yrs old ?
my daughter and granddaughter both wore size 6 when they were 2 and 3. Sizes don’t go by age for a child.
At one time all 3 of my grandkids were the same size and height. People thought they were triplets everywhere we went. They were 7, 9, and 11 and all wore same size.
My grandson is small. He is 14 and still wears size 8 underwear.
Granddaughter is 10 and wears ladies size 9 shoes.
People without kids don’t know what they are talking about.
where’s G’s test ?
So nejames has admittd that Caylee is indeed deceasd am I gettin that right and he accused ng of capitolizing on her death…so c and g’s lawyer has admittd that Caylee is gone…so that means c is gunna have to give it up!!
i mean, i sort of campare the height by the little boy who was kidnapped, he was 6 yrs old and 3′11 tall, twice caylee’s age, unless he was a small boy for his age
hi bump, i didn’t hear the count say that, just saying the media is trying to capitalise on the situation
So then killr said yes I have ppd and I dunt remember killing my child but IF she is dead then this is how I probably killd her..yah you go andrea yates..rokin the house with the ppd…ok she aint gunna get far with that card…aint happenin…nope not here..
3′ IS BIG FOR THAT AGE
i don’t understand why G&C think they need a lawyer for, if they haven’t did anything wrong then what’s up
HE SAID THAT IN THE BEG. OF SHOW
MAYBE G THOUGHT THEY NEEDED ONE CUZ OF C’s MOUTH
bri, kids come in all sizes. I have always worked with children. I have kept a child that was in size 14 when she was 5 years old.
I currently keep an 11yo boy who is 10. He wears boys size 16.
Neither of the above children were/are fat or even overweight. They are just bigger than average children.
If I paid for an expensive dress I would get a larger size also so that my child could wear it more than one season.
****I don’t even think the MM dress they found was Caylee’s. I think it was planted. But I do think it COULD have fit Caylee had it been hers.
thanks mambear, i thought so, if little caylee had lived she would’ve been a tall lady…my neighbors are large people and so are their kids and grandchildren, the last grandchild born was 14 pounds at birth and very long, i think they were dressing him 6 month clothes lol, a beautiful baby but big
good grief–I have read far too many documents today—LMAO—a 11yo kid who is 10 ????
The child is 10 almost 11.
I am a 58yo woman who is 20
i agree gumshoe, i didn’t mean that she was fat, only a large child, over average height…and i told my hubby the same thing you just said about buting a larger size so she could be able to wear the dress longer
POOR GUMS. I CAUGHT THAT BUT I DO SHIT LIKE THAT ALL THE TIME. NOT USED TO U DOIN IT. LMFFAO
nejames knew at GJ that caylee is dead,so did george that is why he was so torn up at hte hearing really who are they trying to kid
BRI IS HERE
Hundreds of pages of Discovery released
myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/Home/Detail?contentId=7805151&version=15&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=1.1.1
My daughter is a 2yr old who weighs 35 #’s and wears a size 3t and sumetimes a 6t it depends on the manufacturer and childrens clothes shrink soo much anyways after the 3rd wash there darnd near infant size…my daughter has a size 6 small outfit from Disney World no less that muh mom and dad got on there last vacation its a size 6 small child…and it fits her…shes not huge shes tall…and so I think its all in the garment and the making of it…
ok thanks mamabear, i’ll read it tomorrow…i really felt sorry for G when they said he had to throw up…he knows that was caylee in the trunk, and also what the stain was
Oh hay Mytwocents when u arrive we moved from:::
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Der dats duh one…
right bump, that’s what i meant, i didn’t mean to imply that caylee was chubby at all, only tall
I DO BELIEVE HE HAS BEEN TRYING TO STAND BY C WHILE SHE IS NUTS.
Hey I do have to say killr is a good actress cus now she wears the ppd mask quite well for the audiance…I mean of course when she was out bella vida’ing it all over town spreadin the stank she wusnt doin such a good job wearn the ppd mask but now that her a~~ is in a sling she does do the act quite well..to bad its waaay to late and no one is buyin it…!!
Oh I didnt say anything about yur comment Bri I wus just tossn in what my daughter is like..thats all I didnt even see yur comment sorry…im not here today..lost in translation i suppose…
i hope her trial is televised, i put on tru tv today cause i thought the would be televising the fraud charge trial, but nope…they might show it later after the trial is over
Muh girl is tall….shes qute vewy qute..I love them my children are the best in the world..they are all soo qute…
I emaild court tv today and askd if it was gunna be on tv I shuld chek my snail mail…
lol bump, i feel like that at times lol
did u hear what her new vocation she wants to be involved in missing kids, what a joke when she even can’t fess up what she did with caylee,sure i want her on the team to search for my missing virginity
mamabear, did you read the part about C saying they lost her “caylee” ?
I THINK IT IS C NOT M LOOKIN FOR MISSIN KIDS. BUT I DONT THINK IT WILL HAPPEN. SHE HAS TO STOP SOON AND SHE WONT HAVE THE ENERGY AFTER IT ALL HITS HER.
FLOWERCHILD ! LMAO ! yeah she’s a joke ! seems to me she would want to find her own child first, that would be a good start
YUP…………
no mamabear that is what casey told child protective services people she wanted to do for her new vocation,why doesn’t she start with her own child
Oh she said that a long time ago thats her excuse for researching missing/endangerd child websites thats just a alibi for her pc searches…shes a fool..
OOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOH. I DIDNT KNOW SHE SAID THAT TO THEM. U READIN THE TRANSCRIPTS?
as far as C taking meds, i think if i were her i would stay off of the meds long enough to search for my grandchild during the day, maybe take something to help me sleep, but after sleeping i would want to be clear headed
Hey guys, I posted on another thread about the state’s statement that the death penalty may not be achievable, and wondered why they picked NOW to say it since the defense is showing signs of abandoning the ‘Caylee is alive’ stance. I was really curious if any of you would have a theory as to why they would not have just waited to make that statement, as this weekend they may find Caylee’s body. Bump said it was a ploy(I think).
Forgive me if I am wrong on that, or if you have already been discussing it; this is the first time I have been free in awhile.
OOOOOOOOOOOH BUMP. YA’LL HOLD ME HAND HERE
c tho shuld help find missing children she has made a mochery of every missing child out there every time she has opened her mouth she shuld do some community service to pay for her endless spew of nonesense!!
HEYYY DJ
it was said on ng tonight mamabear
djones, i think it’s a ploy
HMMMMM HAVE TO WATCH AT 10 AGAIN. SIDES I NEED TO SEE ME LIL PADDY AGAIN.
THANKS FLOWER
i’d like to see paddy get the count around the neck LOL
I think them sayn now that they dunt have enuff evidence is great cus her krak butt defense team has already made a hypothetical confession so I dunt kno much about it its just my thought!!!
A ploy for what? Usually I have an idea where the prosecution or defense is going with something, but this one stumps me. I wonder why they didn’t wait to say the death penalty may not be an option. Doesn’t it make sense to keep the defense a little nervous, as they seem to be now?
as they said casey changes to fit her environment so she has a missing child,and now she has the great need to be helpful and be the great saviour of other children,sick
i think it’s a ploy, gonna offer the defense life in prison if M will confess and tell where the body is, if she doesn’t and they find the body the deal will be off the table…it’s the games legal system plays
I dunt kno if its a ploy im just sayn that it makes sense now that they have that hypothetical confession “IF Caylee is dead she died blah blah blah” cus now they prolly have an easier chance of killr coughing up the body…I dunt kno really HAY GUMSHOE WE NEED YUR EXCELLENCE PUHLEEEASE…GUMSHOE PAGING GUMSHOE…D JONES HAS A QUESTION!!!
i think the ploy is they are thinking caylee’s body will be found,and it might show evidence of chlorform,so then they can say see unwitted case of accidental death by overdose,she didn’t mean to kill the little snothead,my ass
Makes sense, but will Casey talk if she thinks the prosecution won’t go after with the needle anyway?
I woulda thought it better if the defense said, O.K., she’ll give up the body in exchange for life.
However, I don’t have too much experience with this stuff.
Good eveing all. I just got on and read this blogs posts havent read the other one from the morning… ahh… so much to take in and the docs 500 to read, i have no time someone fill me in on all you know..
ahhh bump I can just feel you so upset today and others too… it is indeed heartbreaking me to death I couldn’t get it off my mind at work, I did see NG and I was like some weirdo like glied to the set lol hanging on every single word…
ok guys fill me in on more docs than what they talked about
and buumps I still say were right there had to be some “confession” for them to start talking about this defense even if the new crap came out about her saying I am innocent… I’m confused cause tonight on NG the caption was reading I’m innocent and they won’t break me??
and who was crying?
i really don’t know, i’m not an attorney, nor do i know much about the legal system, i’m mostly guessing
she won’t even do that D Jones,she said the cops won’t break her,she will never disclose were caylee is
tim miller and paddy seem pretty confident that they’ll find caylee’s remains, i hope they’re right
Flower:
All the more reason the state should let her sweat it out, IMHO.
Sorry if I’m belaboring the point, I JUST DON’T GET IT.
Pammyliz the only reason she says she is innocent is cus of her claimin ppd..she is innocent in her head so there for she doesnt deserve the death penalty cus in America woman who kill there children due to ppd dont go to death row…and c wus crying I believe…Oh to me its a confession point blank..she just sugar coated it like all the other loser woman who choose to kill there kids due to ppd…I mean woman who kill there kids caused by ppd claim to have no recolection of the murder and claim to have no memory of it..a yates supposedly didnt realize she drownd her 5 kids until her hubby came home an flippd a biscuit…its a confession to get them to drop the death penalty…thats prolly why they droppd the death penalty cus she gave a confession or I mean her defense team gave a hypothetical confession…
casey is a self center little snake in the grass,you can tell by those sneering looks she gives off,she would sail her own mother down the creek to save her own butt
good luck finding it flower
No thats the whole point of claiming ppd “Oh crap IF I did kill my kid this is how I accidentally did it due to my depression…oops I drownd 5 kids in a row I didnt even realize…oh my gosh I smothrd my child with chloroform cus I wus so depressd I culdnt take her to my bf’s I had no clue…but IF she is dead then yes I did smother her with chloroform thats IF she is dead cus I really cant remember cus I have ppd…LOSERS..those women are weak losers…if thats all they can come up with…
GUMS CAN U PLEASE HELP JD?
Gumshoe ther yew b why is the state sayin they dont have enuff evidence to get the death penalty??? Gumshoe if yew please???
yeah gumshoe,if casey was searching for it,maybe she could lie and steal to get it back for me, in a backwards kind of way
wow, did they drop death penalty?
yah I am never buying PPD.. EVER EVER and she confessed cause the new guy forced her to. and she did, and she said ok ( I can imagine all snotty) “now build me a defense” i can even hear her tone ” I told ya, are you all happy now? its all been about caylee from day 1, now help me so I can get back to my old life, I’ve been wrongly accused, I am sick I must be”…
BBL, guys.
yah bumps or, she might be saying ( or her team) well we’ll wait til the search ends see if caylees dead corpse shows up then that will determine how we’ll, play this, but at least we talked BEFORE whatever is found is found or not found, and what mental stuff we’ll pull out, OMG I can even hear her attonry “M can you tell us of anything anyone witnessed in your past as menatl illness? is there someone we can call as witness , maybe when you were acting psycho? or showing PPD in front of anyone” and I can see M starting the whole entire lying blaming thing again, yah like one time my mom choked me and she didnt realize at that time i had PPD!!! GOD how nauseating
Yah its been all about Caylee alls you care about is Caylee I am innocent I have ppd…to bad soo sad she will never get bak to her old life…and who is the new guy??? lemon or is there someone else added to ms..innocents defense team???
i don’t believe people are going to fall for that story of a accidental death,not unless they are blind far to much coverup and lies from casey to even consider that
Wait JD were tryin to get choo and answer Gumshoe…we need joo!!
I’m referring to the new one who got the confession beat out of her, lol the death penalty expert
sorry I am blogging but my girl wants my attention and is sitting in my lap and I am trying to read and talk about babes in toyland movie with her at the same time..lol
sorry I am blogging but my girl wants my attention and is sitting in my lap and I am trying to read and talk about babes in toyland movie with her at the same time..lol
Yah she makes me wunt to vomit..she is gunna come up with some more whoppers im sure..cus IF she is dead this is how I killd her but since i have ppd I really can only sorta maybe totally remember the whole thing sorta kinda maybe..yah shes dead I needed to get laid…
I gots to go for a bit the midgets need to go to bed if im not bak tonite I will be here bright and early manyana
Gnite maybe If they go to sleep If i can remember Im feelin a little ppd today…
blog whore…
DJones,
I can only guess at the answer to your question.
All of us have high hopes that Caylee’s remains WILL be found, even this weekend.
OK. What IF–what if they are not found? And not found before trial? Or ever?
Maybe prosecution is covering all bases by putting it out there that they don’t have enough evidence for death penalty without the body as a scare tactic (a ploy) to try and get M to say where she put her in exchange for only the aggravated manslaughter charge.
I’m guessing. But I still trust LE with knowing what to put out there and what to hold close.
BYE JD N BUMP
NG ON AGAIN. LATERS
Hi Everyone
Looks like a manslaughter case to me.
yah this is becoming very eye opening to the startegy of this defense team very good to come out with it just days before finding remains, and , then if no remains they go back to well we said IFFFFFF she did this….OMG I can barely stand this case any longer its causing me grief, consumption, and aggravation and alls I want is JUSTICE FOR CAYLEE I dont wanna even hear about no PPD when you KNOWINGLY buy chlorform some ancitent old drug and use it to smother someone you are in your right mind pre planning the putting someone to sleep. so, then you are 100& responsible if something goes wrong while doing this illegal act of murder… and PPD doesnt even come close in this story NO WAY
Hi friends…
Woudn’t you haved loved being a fly on wall when all this shit went down!!!
Anyway, just a few days, hopefully have our baby back home..
I honestl feel sorry for G,,wrapped up in a mess of lies.
Lets all pray that it is over soon….
luv you peeps
HEYYYYY CAT
thanks gumshoe, i was sort of thinking along the same lines, i’m just not good at wording it like you do
HEYYYY LILRED. LOL I GOTTA WATCH NG. GOTTA BE HERE. LOL
typos I meant ancient old drug noone even thinks about today, and then put your kid to sleep and then SHOCK you find her dead from no air, and then you lug her around, cover it up, like some skank and then put everyone and their brother through hell and back tortue people along the way then you expect us to say sorry, dear, we didnt know you had PPD we would have undertood then!! sorry now way
Hi Mama
She’s going to get comvicted on manslaughter 1
HEYYYYYYY BRI
THATS GOOD?
M.is brazen isn’t she?
hi catherine…what’s your take on the case after seeing NG tonight
Manslaughter 1
bye bump and sorry for your PPD I didnt relaize you had this disease, gees if I had only known…LOL joke…
I’ll be here for a bit but start a new time for work tomorrow 6 am to 2 wow gonna be hard for me to get up that early
D Jones at 9:37
I’m wondering the same thing. It does not make sense to me. I thought the state might be holding the death penalty over her hoping she’d confess and tell where the remains are in return for life. But for the state to say NOW that there is not enough evidence to go for the death penalty seems just plain stupid!
Especially with what the defense has just said - The strategy OJ made famous with the book almost called “IF I did it!” I’m stumped. The state …wed up big time I think.
I know many of us don’t think that M would ever confess anyway but it sure looked like the defense was weakening. Maybe there are some behind the scenes negotiations going on.
But on the face of it, it just looks like a mess courtesy of the prosecution.
hi mamabear
It is a sure bet with the jurors.
did they actually truly decide no death penalty??? I missed this news????
Yes, pammy
NG onn again. I got to see NeJame say “she is not with us anymore” or what ever he said.
C is so blind. She’s on there (video clip)saying “Why would she put us all through that? She wouldn’t do that”
Dang, she put poor C thru bankrupcy and Amy through hell with money, etcccccccccc,
why C think she wouldn’t put everyone thru this?
how much time for manslaughter 1 Catherine?
ME 2 NG. LATERS AGAIN
C. she is going to end up in a mental ward.
cat why do you think manslaughter 1? I havent had time to read the blog today, I missed alot of what went down legally…
I think 25 -40 years
hey cat
Just getting ready for bed..but I had to stop in first, is it official that they are “Definitely” not going for the death penalty? Or is this still off the article from earlier?
yes he said a search for caylee who is no longer with us
some sort of accident with the pool, because the ladder was in the pool, and the ants never left the ladder like that
Pammy,
It is a sure thing for the prosecution. Easy for the jurors to convict her on.
Hey, I got a minute.
Thanks, Gumshoe, that does make sense.
I know LE knows what they’re doing better than me, for sure.
I just can’t help but wonder, when you’re dealing with a hardass like Casey, do you give them an inch? SHE certainly doesn’t budge.
But I can see where you are coming from.
Who said that about the pool?
but how much time would that get her, in this type of situation? and they truly dropped it , wow…
Hi Kris
it was just on NG, hi kris…but NG and mike not buying it, they still think it was the chloroform
yah I heard that too about the pool, if that were true tho then why would they not come out and say baby MAY have died by drowning? why come out and say baby may have died by sedatives? I am so confused over past 2 days I truly truly am, maybe I’m jsut tired too and this case ticking me off more and more
yah I heard that too about the pool, if that were true tho then why would they not come out and say baby MAY have died by drowning? why come out and say baby may have died by sedatives? I am so confused over past 2 days I truly truly am, maybe I’m jsut tired too and this case ticking me off more and more
She would serve 1/2 of her sentence most likely.
Here’s an interesting bit from wftv.com this evening:
STATE WANTS GAG ORDER, ATTORNEY WANTS TIPS
Prosecutors in the case against Casey filed a motion to “shut up” Jose Baez and the Anthony family (read motion).
The state attorney is asking for a gag order on several key players in the case, saying that attorney Jose Baez has “succumbed to the lure of the national spotlight” and frequently expresses his opinion about the case.
They also accuse the Anthony family of turning every opportunity to talk about Caylee into an attack on the prosecution.
Meanwhile, Baez has filed his own motion, demanding more of the 5,000 tips the sheriff’s office collected (read motion). The 450 they’ve already released were mostly from psychics.
A judge will consider the requests on Monday.
If she lasts that long in prison.
Who was the person that is “playing off the pool idea”…and I think that is exactly what their doing…Yeah that’s the ticket..
Sorry I don’t buy into it either.
Hi everyone Cat, sabrina, pammy..anyonelse I might have missed.
the defense grasping for straws and because of the chloroform recipe searches, i’m still on the fence about using the chloroform on caylee as a sedaive
I’ don’t buy it either Kris. I think M. moved the pool ladder when she buried Caylee in the backyard.
I don’t think it was the pool….no way in hell! There might be some coincidence with a ladder being up but that doesn’t explain away the other evidence.
pammyliz and Kris - On the previous article Gumshoe posted this for us about the state’s position on the death penalty. That’s where we got it originally:
Casey Death Case Hard To Make At This Time
Aggravating Factors Required To Get Death Sentence
POSTED: 3:57 pm EST November 6, 2008
UPDATED: 5:06 pm EST November 6, 2008
Prosecutors say they don’t know if they have enough evidence to seek the death penalty against Casey Anthony, who is accused of killing her daughter, Caylee, WESH 2 News learned on Thursday.
A spokesman at the Orange-Osceola State Attorney’s Office told WESH 2 News reporter Bob Kealing on Thursday that prosecutors have not taken the death penalty off the table, because the case is still developing and they hope to find Caylee’s body.
But Randy Means of the state attorney’s office said there are doubts they have enough aggravating factors to get the death penalty at this time.
hi everyone i’m having trouble tonight bloggin cause me girl is on my lap..lol but i am reading all your blogs I know whats happening
hi everyone i’m having trouble tonight bloggin cause me girl is on my lap..lol but i am reading all your blogs I know whats happening
So sounds like they openly admitted tonight that Caylee is gone. If they said this, does this make it officially from monster moms lips? Did she confess to this? If so is the search still going to proceed. And are they absolutely not going to try for the death penalty or can they still change their minds?
how long a person stay knocked out from chloroform ? kris do you know ?
With the saturation levels in the trunk the chloroform played a part in Caylee’s death.
Kris and pammyliz please see my 10:25pm post
thanks for the post MTC I didnt read that, theres alot i missed today and no time to catch up by backtracking, so thanks for anyones updates here. it is welcomed
The final decision on a murder 1 penalty is up to the judge.
isn’t the same as if i see someone choking are in a bad wreck and i knew they were dying and i did not render aid to them,wouldn’t that be the same as murder,because i knew there was a chance of them dying and i did nothing to help them?
brb 2 secs
why would they have to take that to the judge now cat? or is that later when trial begins? I’m confused.
I have no idea why that guy would say they have doubts at this time - why weaken their own case at this point? But it’s just a news article so it could be off-base somehow. Or maybe Randy blabbed something he shouldn’t have.
who has doubts MTC?
No remorse for killing Caylee will not play well with the jurors. The prosecution will play and replay her dancing at Fusian’s on
June 20th along with the video at Blockbuster with Tony on June 16th.
well look at the oj trial, the defense claimed evidnce was planted, who stood more to gain from planting evidence…same rule applies here…maybe it was the defense who released that document, maybe the prosecuters sent that to the defense a long time ago and they changed the date on it
I don’t know about the time frame with something like chloroform…that is an old time “archaic” way of sedation. Something like isoflourzine or an inhibator I know more of from the vet clinics when I use to show. But that one I don’t even know.
thx, m2c got the post above.
pammyliz - the last sentence of the article posted above reads: “But Randy Means of the state attorney’s office said there are doubts they have enough aggravating factors to get the death penalty at this time.”
Pammy,
Are you talking about the prosecution taking the death penalty off the table?
OMG FLOWER. DID I MISUNDERSTAND THAT. U R SOOOOOOOO RIGHT. SORRY SWEETIE. I REALLY THOUGHT THEY SAID CINDY.
Those two words in the same sentence make me laugh….Randy & aggravating….lol!
OMG I LOVE ME LIL PADDY. SOOOOOOOO CUTE
thats ok mamabear we all get confused on things because there is so much info out there
searches of FL law on manslaughter cases —
one person (first time offense) got 5 years and 15 years probation.
several got 15 years.
one got what was said to be the lowest possible of 12.4 years.
several of the above were beating children to death, some dui vehicular, some included a gun, etc…so lots of factors I guess.
If Caylee’s body is found before the judge rules on that motion the prosecution can withdraw that motiion, and go for the death penalty.
When you all have time go see my post at 10:22pm. It’s short. It’s about the state wanting a gag order on BB and the ants!
Geesh! It’s about time! LOL!
When is the judge to rule on that motion Catherine?
i’m not convinced the prosecution has removed the death penalty, i’ll have to hear it straight from them, the randy guy said he got all of those documents via email, he probably can’t prove who it came from
well your post abou ttaking to the judge, do they have to decide right now on what the charge will be?? I mean do they have to say manslaughter, murder right at this time before trial? its hard to explainwhat i mean i guess. lol i mean when they ask for the trial do they already go in with murder? manslaughter? or do they give a jury options.?
LOL..M2c….they would literally need a real gag for Cindy..LMAO!
gag order on casey maybe she will choke
Gum,
Look up Manslaughter 1
Kris - I was going to say the same thing but wasn’t sure others remembered what the word “Randy” means! Which is the man’s name!
Randy Means! I mean who would name their kid that? LOL
Right, Kris! Gosh knows Nejame probably asked the state to ask for it!!!!
MTC i saw that about gag order UM ITS ALITTLE LATE TO GAG THIS STORY lol i mean what a joke now to ask for a gag IMO… way too late
no pammy your question is the same way I’m thinking…why should they be hard pressed to decide right now what charges..doesn’t make sense to me either, but I’m not a law buff.
The GJ handed down a true bill for murder 1 and manslaughter and of course the lesser charges like check fraud.
i thought nejame and NG were gonna start going to blows tonight.. and padilla looked soooo cute at the end when he got his joke in…lol he is handsome isn’t he? and you just know you would love him ify ou knew him in person no?
i thought nejame and NG were gonna start going to blows tonight.. and padilla looked soooo cute at the end when he got his joke in…lol he is handsome isn’t he? and you just know you would love him ify ou knew him in person no?
mytwocents-The Original said,in November 6th, 2008 at 10:40 pm Kris - I was going to say the same thing but wasn’t sure others remembered what the word “Randy” means! Which is the man’s name!
Randy Means! I mean who would name their kid that? LOL
I got one of those M2c…same name. And it’s just too funny to see that name with aggravating in print…lol!
so if they do charge her with manslaughter will that negate a murder trial ?
ok i see so they asked prior for murder 1 and manslaughter and your saying they will ask for the lowest to get the conviction for sure? i guess I’m getting it now, very tired and baby in lap. trying to type and read
ok i see so they asked prior for murder 1 and manslaughter and your saying they will ask for the lowest to get the conviction for sure? i guess I’m getting it now, very tired and baby in lap. trying to type and read
What joke did he get in pammy…I don’t catch the show.
no gag order is going to help them now,the damage is already done,cindy’s statements and geroge’s is not going to help casey now
oh, i see what you gals are about “randy” i thought that was the news guy’s name lol
Yes, Bri
I still would think if an investigation is still considered ongoing that they could change that to the death penalty.
OMG. COUNT TOLD NG , “DONT BE SO RUDE”
LMFFAO
I believe aggravating factors means they don’t know HOW she did it–only that she did. They don’t know if she choked her, let her drown while she talked on the phone, put her to sleep with chloroform and she died—or if it was an accident.
If they knew she sedated her, that would be aggravating. Or if they knew she left her in the car in the heat and went shopping–If she knowingly did something that caused Caylee’s death, even if she wasn’t trying to kill her.
I don’t think the death penalty is officially off the table yet but it sounds like they’re waffling. I guess the defense is waffling too.
Maybe this is all part of the pre-trial games both sides play.
mamabear, isn’t that ironic after all the count was the first person to be rude by insulting paddy
She is tried under the umbrella of true bill that was handed down by the GJ.
Wow…nobody sasses NG and gets away with it! It’s her show, and if any sassin’s gonna be done it will be from her! How indignant of him! lol!
I KNOW BRI. HE B SO RUDE. LOL
I think Paddy should just pick up Nejame and put him on his lap and play with him like a ventriloquist’s doll! I mean the Count LOOKS like a ventriloquist’s doll!
If their still swaying back & forth on the death penalty…can’t we come up with a petition..(maybe wouldn’t work)..but it sure would show them how strongly the public feels about her.
kris, it was the count, he called paddy p t barnam, first words out of his mouth, and then he wanted to cry about NG being rude lol big baby lol
HE EVEN LOOKS GOOFIER WID HE MOUTH OPEN
That sounds like it was pretty funny…wished I could’ve seen that.
OMG LMAO my two cents OMG now that my friend is FUNNY!!!!!!!! I needed a good good laugh what a long long day of mixed emotions, long day at work, and dreading getting up for my new shift tomorrow of 6 am but that one cracked me up…lol you all are too much sometimes LOL
2cents ! to funny !
Finding Caylee’s remains could get M. murder 1
she is already charged with manslaughter.
These are her charges:
7 counts
#1 1st degree murder (death penalty–premeditated)
#2 aggravated child abuse
#3 aggravated manslaughter
#4-7 4 counts of providing false info to LE
counts #2 or #3 would only be some prison time or no time and probation since no priors.
I mean the part about the count getting pouty.
DAMMIT. I SIT HERE SO LONG E-DAY I HAVE “BED” SORES ON MY KNEES FROM CROSSING ME LEGS
and that is our hope and prayer, Cat
nejames when he was stuttering when ng was asking him about the poly test,can u understand the words coming out of my mouth cindy is on meddacation shsshe cannnnnnnnnnnnnot take a polywad test
Has anyone talked to sharon lately? I am hoping she will pop in here saturday after the search and talk to us about it.
kris, it was funny, his eyes were bugging out lol
I just hope the prosecution doesn’t officially drop the death penalty until we see if they can find her remains this weekend. There would be just a tiny chance that some evidence would make a difference.
And Kris no matter what happens - even if she only gets prison for however many years - remember that every time she’s up for parole WE EACH WRITE A LETTER objecting strongly to it (at the very least). She ain’t gettin’ out for a long long time!
Getting late so I’ll say good night with prayers for Caylee and the search team.
mama thats another thing to add to the “suing” m list mamas bed sores, and my A** sores from sitting in my uncomforatbale chair along with my other list carpal tunnel, post traumatic stress, add it to the sue list LOL
It’s like a tennis game at the moment with the defense and the prosecution. Serve, return, volley.
PADDY B SO CUTE WHEN HE LAUGHS
‘nite E1.
Been a long long day.
LY all.
I know M2c..but I think the only thing that will hit home with a sociopath is if she has to be in there with the death penalty hanging over her head like a black cloud. If she just gets life she may not think on anything and just learn to live that way in there.
mamabear go get him and give him a big bear hug for all of us
catherine, did you see the part where paddy cuts the count with the tom thumb remark LMAO !
RIGHT PAMMY
N I WANT LOTS A MONEY
nite gumshoe
Did he say that? Really Tom thumb?
Gum,
That’s why BB wants to postpone the check fraud charges, because it would make her a repeat offender.
gnite 2cents and gumshoe
FLOWER, SHARON IS GONNA GIVE HIM A HUGS FOR US.
By gums..
nite 2c
NITE GUMS
No, didn’t see that.
i hope sharon keeps us informed on what’s going on
yes I say we all get a lawyer pro bono and sue her for all this stress, I have enough stress and M brought me her stress from worry over her baby, and i think we all have trauma now from it too, we’ll just keep adding to the growing list of things to sue her for… and your sores too and mine and my wrists hurting from typing , and lets not forget our hosues going to hell from not cleaning cause we had to take over the search for what happened to her child!!!!
is she going to search for caylee to?
NITE BRI
(((((HUGGS)))))
Night, Gums
kris, yeah i cracked up…he said p t barnams best show on earth was tom thumb, and NG asked what he meant by that, paddy said well i’m not the only one sitting in front of your cameras
SHARON IF YOU READ THIS BLOG…WE ARE COUNTING ON YOU TO BE IN HERE PRONTO ON SATURDAY NIGHT! DON’T LET ALL YOUR FRIENDS DOWN..YOU ARE OUR SAINT ON SATURDAY!
Where is Cecy?
in other words i took that to mean paddy is p t barnam and the count is tom thunb LMAO
YES FLOWER. AINT IT GREAT??????
Oh god thats too funny..I would’ve laughed my butt off! Wish I woulda seen that.
catherine, i haven’t seen cecy tonight, she was on another blog earlier today
Hey pammy..if we can all sue them for the stress and aches and pains maybe I can slip in my next surgery by them too..think they would notice…lol!
ok bbl
DONT MEMBER IF I SAW BEANS TODAY. HMMMMMMM I HAVE BEEN KINDA OUT OF IT TODAY. THIS HAS SHOWN A TOLE ON ME AS WELL AS U GIRLS BUT I BE OLDER. LMAO
OK CAT……..
kris, i know i was just imagining the count getting up and stomping out of the room LMAO !
I think its all a tennis game like Catherine has said…the defense team has hypothetically confessd to Caylees death therefore now the prosecution says after the hypothetical confession mind you …ehh well maybe we dunt have enuff to get the death penalty..I think its brilliant…they waitd till after the defense jumpd the gun and hypothetically confessd…even tho they all kno that 8,000+ ppl are in town to find Caylees remains…so they betta start spilln the beans cus someone is bound to stumble on Caylee!!!
wow that is great, i read her story on her daughter and went to her site so sad, i can’t imagine the pain she is going through
By Cat.
I THINK NG LIKES ME PADDY 2.
kris oh of course I forgot we’ll add you too to the growing sue list you have it bad enough with the surgeries, and now new added ails from M causing them.. lol lol
and our houses, my god, our houses and organization has fallen apart all because of one Monster… I mean since july i swear i used to be like OCD woman and now i let alot go, so I can get on here and keep looking for answers for caylee…
Ya know Bump that does have some merit to it. Sort of like talking to each other in the third party….If I, If you…surprise we do have enough…lol!
Yeah pammy add a maid service for all of us to that sue list..we all need it!
mambear, i just had to laugh when NG was crawling the counts ass and paddy was smiling ear to ear about it, it was so obvious he was trying not to laugh
Hay so who is the new guy on the defense team or is it old moldy lemon ???
Get me the video of that someone! That just sounds classic…I want to see that episode.
me too pammy, my house has never been this dirty, i’m either glued to tv or in here, and looking up stuff on the about the case
i am suing for chronic back pain,loss of sleep, mental anguish anxiety attacks,being nauseated all the time,and absolutely crazy in a backwards kind of way
Sorry as I am to say it..I have to hit the hay. I need to start being more regimen’d with myself on weeknights. I will stop in tommorrow, probably late at night because I have a commitment earlier..it may fall through but if not it will be late in here. Goodnight everyone.
kris, i don’t know where to even start looking for NG video, but i’ll try to find it and email it to you
heres the sad thing with the lawsuit the skank has nothing to sue for because she never worked a true day in her life, and had nothing and besides that the only true thing of value she had she killed… and i just want to sue just to get her a** more in deep… cause she definitely has caused us and others around the world some stress.. amazing some little skank can cause all that, I really should not give her all that credit really…
nite kris
flowerchild..the nausea is another one for me too, i mean true nausea when i think about caylees last day…
gnite kris
pammy..you know the funny thing about that and I will leave you this with food for thought…is you probably could find some lawyer out there who is crazy enough for the publicity alone to claim a class action lawsuit on behalf of all the public and bloggers to take that into consideration.
Gotta go now for real..by.
I know it bri, my girl is even getting aggravated by me being on here… and now i just do my basics keep up on my dishes, and my laundry vaccum lol deep cleaning on my days off… otherwise i could not get on here at all… my girl is always up late with me at night so were together and I am watching tv and moves with her even whenI am bloggin which is why i am always asking what are you guys talking about? lol cause i can’t read all the way back, well soon it will be coming to a head and we can all relax, but I don’t know LOl the trial will cause us all more and we’ll add the trial misery to our sue list lol
NITE KRIS.
hi guys - geez I just have to jump in here - not finished reading up yet.
What a night! Paddy and NG vs. Nejame - he was out for the Count!
Kris “The Original” said,in November 6th, 2008 at 11:07 pm Ya know Bump that does have some merit to it. Sort of like talking to each other in the third party….If I, If you…surprise we do have enough…lol!
thats whut im talkn about…they waitd until the defense team jumpd the gun and hypothetically confessd then said ehh well maybe we dunt have enuff now that you said all that…
Hey - who’s still up and who’s gone to bed?
don’t give me any ideas kris…lol I am just crazy enough to try it, just for the PRINCIPAL of the whole thing she caused us…lol lol
M caused a first in history ever of a story so elaborate to her lindberger? (spell check) kidnapper story and why can’t we cause a first time ever blogger lawsuit for damages..??
new casey movie LEGALLY DUMB
HEYY BEANS………
i’m still up, kris just left, catherine said bbl…2cents is gone too
Hey BOP - i think this is a game of chess.
The defense made the first move with what you call the “hypothetical confession” - shows they are willing to play - open to possible negotiations.
The prosecution countered and said they might not seek death penalty. Still Murder One, but not death. Shows they are gentlemen. Willing to play.
Let the games begin!
I dunt wunt to sue for monitary gain I wunt to sue just to sho her whut she has put us thru as a group of ppl who have hung on this day n and day out..she has put us thru hell like Pammyliz said I for one am a wreck my house is in disaray…my children are pissie with me … I cant remember the last time i bathed…naw just jokn…my ppd is flarin my ocd with a rsvp on a boyb asap on the apb due to a bolo with a opp on the pbs with the cnn all over the abc..cbs..ppd!! werd to yo mothah!!!
well i can’t wait for the prosecution to yell checkmate
i agree cecy, it’s the legal system game, and probably the defense who released it
wow bumps that was a earful
Hey bri - flower - mama - whoever I can’t see on screen.
Wasn’t that crack Paddy made about the Count being “Tom Thumb” just totally precious!
He looked like a dried up old prune!
And it finally struck me why NG has had Kobe on all this time - she said she’s known him for many, many years. He probably was her forensics expert in some trials and she had no idea that he’d bail as soon as he became famous enough for BB to see him.
The only reason the defense said that is cus there are 8,000 ppl gearin up to search for that baby I mean they had to come up with someting.cus unless she dug a deep hole and buried that child they are goin to find her…no doubt about it…8,000 ppl thats a vendor of GOD!!!!
flower - LMAO - I doubt it will even get that far. I don’t think the defense is playing with as many pieces!
bump so true i didnt realize it had grown to 8000 now, they will find her, I pray pray pray…
bump so true i didnt realize it had grown to 8000 now, they will find her, I pray pray pray…
are brain matter either
kobe is doing his job probably for more reasons than one, i think most everyone on NG knows her pretty well and probably expects to be attacked at times, but they get paid well and get publicity to boot
I was a bit disappointed in the list of docs released. Some of them look like transcripts of the audio versions of interviews we’ve already heard - or maybe just more complete versions. I’d already heard all that stuff G said, but did not know he puked. Poor dude! That’s what you get when you play with two black widows!
Did you see my earlier post on the EZPass records?
Bri - no kidding. he’s getting paid from both sides he can afford to look sheepish…
BUMP LMAO
if you only knew, heres the deal i work weird hours 1-9 now that only gives me a little time each morning then at night we get in and i need to spend time with her. so shes always yakking while i am blogging, its all good, shes hugging asking for food drink, change movies, thats stressful in itself, then you add all of you on here lol ii have to talk tomy friend each night lol, more pressure…lol lol.. then i say tonight i am not turing that puter on when i get home and i am like taking babys coat off with one hand turning puter on with other now i am overwrought for sure lol.lol
i took this new 6 am -2 shift for fridays now thinking i will get off at 2 and have friday nights off, OK that will just be 8 more hous I can BLOG lord knows i wont be cleaning or writing out bills LOL
cecy, i felt bad for G too, i haven’t seen EZpass post
Padilla also said that he would find Caylee by Monday.
“I told Casey Anthony before she threw me out of her house that I would find Caylee with or without her help,” Padilla said, “And I am going to do that.”
waht a good ol man he is…I wundr if he has grandchildren himself????
i want to know why the defense team keeps saying she is a good and loving mother,and right i am the fairy godmother of lala land,wow can i get away with murder to?
cecy, oh no, i didn’t mean he was being paid from both sides lol…but he gets paid on both the show and from defense and he gets to play with forensic/scientific stuff, it’s all up his alley
bump you have alot of disorders, hmmm I thought i had disorders, hmm.. you may have more than me…LMAO…
maybe you all have cured my OCD, and my shopping aholic disease, by turning my attentions elsewhere… for caylee its all been worth it, it does make me feel good all joking aside or i would not be here for so many countless hours…
Bri - here’s a copy - would love your input.
November 6th, 2008 at 7:27 pm Hi guys
Just wanted to pop in a minute and thank Gums for the link to Fox news. The docs don’t all look so new, but I had not seen the EZPass receipts that are in G’s name - the whole family used the same account.
Interesting - there are days in late July (22, 26, 28) where both G’s car and C’s car are entering and exiting the Boggy Creek Road exit. Dont see that exit used much other than that (except maybe if the toll for that exit was passed it looks like) hmmm…..see y’all later!
I heard him say he had alot of grandchildren i think like 5 comes to mind, alot anyways he said one night they call him all the time on his cellphone
bump, paddy does have grandchildren, i think he said 4 grandsons, but don’t mark my words
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/pages/News/Detail?contentId=7809800&version=1&locale=EN-US&layoutCode=TSTY&pageId=3.2.1
I mean dunt get muh wrong I am an animal lover but me I OWN GUNS!! I wuld of not hesitated and shot that damn dog..no ifs and or butts about it..done deal dog yew is goin to the creator…
alot of NG guests are old court tv friends she knows them and thats why they take her abuse..lol. I bet they go to her house and hang out, they like you to think they dislike one another but i watched court tv for years
I bet the reason they drove that road wus to look for Caylee…cus wusnt those dates after she was arrestd on child neglect and hindering a investigation or whatever…
thanks cecy i’ll look at it tomorrow
Bri - lol actually that was what I was thinking - but I’m sure the NG fee is pretty nominal. She’s giving all her guest a big publicity boost. I just think she must think it’s pretty funny and ironic that she is the reason he’s even important enough for BB to have asked. BB prolly thought he could manipulate the media by planting “forensic doubt” in the minds of the public.
too bad BB didn’t take a good look at Kobe!
that’s right cecy, but i doubt kobe will be able to dispute any of the forensic findings, i believe he’s an honest person and want lie for the defense
i meant won’t lie lol sheesh my eyes are drooping…i’ll see you gals later…gnite
well i am off to see the sandman,will see u guys tommorrow so everyone have a goodnite and hope they find caylee soon
BOP - yup you are right. I wasn’t sure if she was still in jail at the end of July though. Maybe LV got an idea of where she was. Maybe they thought if they cleaned up the evidence they could make every one believe it was really a kidnapping.
Cuz I ain’t buyin what either anybody says about denial anymore. Denial don’t clean evidence out of a trunk. Cleaning evidence means you think she’s dead and nobody but a relative did it or you’d keep everything perfect for LE to gather all the evidence they could.
“I think I whispered out to myself, ‘Please don’t let this be my Caylee.’”
George Anthony said he also saw a basketball-sized stain on the carpet of the trunk, Arm & Hammer laundry detergent and a plastic garbage bag contaning a pizza box and maggots.
George Anthony said in the interview that the smell was so bad that he had trouble breathing as he drove the car home. He said when he pulled into the garage, his wife came out and said, “Jesus Christ, what died? It was the pizza, right?”
NITE BRI……..
It was later revealed that there was never any pizza in the trunk, only the empty box, Local 6 News reported.
NITE FLOWER
An interview also released on Thursday shows that Casey Anthony had a connection to the Sawgrass Apartments, where she said she left Caylee with a baby sitter named Zenaida Gonzalez before never seeing her daughter again.
Dante Salati, a friend who Casey Anthony had known since high school, lived at Sawgrass for three years. His apartment was located next to the building where Casey Anthony said she left Caylee.
Salati said Casey Anthony’s last visit to his apartment was January 2007, and he had never seen Caylee at the complex.
A detective asked Salati, “Do you think if Casey would come in there to drop her child off at an apartment 500 feet away on a regular basis — do you think you would have had some idea that was going on?”
“Yes,” Salati replied.
night flower!
Bri - I think he’s honest too, and I don’t really think you don’t have to lie, all you have to do is say science is inexact - and it is. You just have to make people believe that some insignficiant probability is big stuff. Like they did in OJ.
Making .001 percent match possibility look like the world is crawling with people who have OJ’s dna (never mind none of em lived in Brentwood).
Miller is hoping to get 3,000 volunteers — especially those with horses, ATVs and boats — to assist in the search.
its only 3,000 volunteers now
BOP - oh, that’s a good one. Dante is throwing her under the bus!
I feel that a good attorney will plan for the worse case scenario and hope for the best.
“I know that Casey’s attorneys know that she is innocent, but they cannot ignore how the media has already spun the facts and convicted her. Casey has been severely attacked by the media since she was first arrested, and anyone would be a fool to ignore that. All of the negative spin has done her an injustice.
“Just look at what it has done for poor Caylee. The media already has given up on looking for this child, when there is simply no credible or concrete evidence to prove that she is dead. The defense and the family will never give up on looking for Caylee.
“We continue to believe she is alive, and so should everyone else who has a conscience. I would ask anyone to ask themselves just how quick would they stop looking for someone that they loved,” the statement said.
oh shoot - ‘night bri!
where did our Mama go?? Haven’t said a proper Hi! to her!
pammy - you’re right about NG and court TV - forgot that’s where she started out. makes a lot of sense.
alright my girl wants me to watch babes in toyland.. again…lol I’m out till tomorrow afternoon.. nite all a few more days…
alright my girl wants me to watch babes in toyland.. again…lol I’m out till tomorrow afternoon.. nite all a few more days…
George Anthony said he also saw a basketball-sized stain
thats f~~ sik and heck yah Dante thru her under the bus she tried to frame him in her lies I wuld of too if I wus him!!!
night pammy - sleep well!
I think they are all gonna toss her. Specially after C tried so hard to sic LE on Jesse and Amy.
Equusearch is hoping to get 3,000 volunteers to participate in the effort, officials said.
The leader of Equusearch said the Anthony family has promised to cooperate.
see they kno why else wuld they promise to cooperate..they kno..poor g…that ol man is close to a coronary im sure..and if c is on meds than no she cant take a poly test…the meds can mess with yur heart and nerves and brain and lung function…
yah cecy they go way back.. alot of her guests kobi, the georgia lady, the other blonde therapist and ann bremhner… they act tough but its all for show some of it\
ok now i have disorder of not being able to stop blogging disorder.. great just great…lol
NBATSB not being able to stop blogging…lol
Adios Pammyliz u blog whore you..sweet dreams to yur baby too..I gots to go do dishes anyways..so adios all !!!
BOP - that stain makes you sick to your stomach, doesn’t it?
C was trying to tell LE that it was there when they got the car, but guess what? forensics can probably tell not only what it is but how old.
She and M are such dumbasses the way they think anyone will believe their shit forever!
bye Bumps - pammy - you can add that to the list of charges we want to bring in M’s civil suit. At the end of the day it might be both C and M!
pammy - i have worked with a lot of polygraphers - a dear friend has been one in FL for over 20 years.
It is true that some medications - particularly sedatives - can give false positives, but the equipment is more sophisticated and an experienced examiner can set it up to compensate.
So there are only two reasons not to take a poly - one is you are too heavily medicated to get a good heart response (which is only part of the process) and two you are GUILTY!!!
SHIT I BE WAY UP THERE. GOT LOST WHEN I WENT TO EMAIL. LOL
well, looks like e1 left! Where did Cat go? I never got to say hi to her today.
I know mama - it takes a lot of time to read down!
NITE PAMMY
BYE BUMP
WHEW. FINALY GOT TO THE BOTTEM
yeah, and it’s just you n me looks like!
THOUGHT WE WERE GONNA HAVE A SLUMBER PARTY TONIGHT
Paddy was such a star today! He made the Count look like a steaming pile of pigeon poo!
me too - looks like people were too pooped to participate!
I KNOW —- JUST LOVED IT. SAW A DIFFERENT SIDE OF HIM TONIGHT
WELL, WAS A VERY DRAINING DAY TODAY. BUT IT GONNA GET WORSE. WE JUST HAD 2 BIG OF A BREAK
tried to send an email but got an error -
pasted it below:
I know - it’s nice to all be worried about each other. I’m feeling under the weather myself. But I need to get my game on for this weekend so we can help them find her! Go troops - fighting for justice for Caylee! We are Sharon and Paddy’s cheerleaders!
It was a draining day. I’m gonna hit the hay in a minute myself. But I think it looks like the show is gonna be on the road. Sat is the start!
Paddy had a twinkle in his eye the whole time. It was hilarious!
like, “you talking to ME you little fly?”
NITE SWEETIE. GET REST. TOMORROW IS SAT.
YUP HE SURE DID.
HEY DID U GET EMAIL BACK TODAY?
nope - I think it’s friday - got one more day. We need to send our wishes and thoughts to sharon tomorrow - give her strength. And Paddy and Tim too!
night kiddo - see ya later alligator!
No, didn’t get one back. No matter. It’s all good!
IT IS FRIDAY MORNING SO TOMORROW IS SAT. LOL
I wanted to give you the BB wink! Like a Carol Burnett kinda thing….
Oh - yeah - I forget you are EST - it’s still Fri here!
I mean Thursday. I am too goofy!
‘Nite!
HE-HE
WINK WINK
LMFAO!
LMAO NITE
nite!
WELL, POOT. CANT SIT HERE BY MESELF SO GUESS I’LL LAY LIL HEAD DOWN 2. NITE E1
I’m here… anyone home!
So Casey has enjoyed working with folks to find Caylee and now wants to make searching for the missing her new vocation. Well, aint that special. The madness has no end.
you guys read whre g, left in 2005 because of m he couldnt take it any more? im anxious i know they are making maps of the area today, i feel for the ants i couldnt immaginr what they are going thru and all the lies c is gonna loose it whaen they find the baby, m will blame it on a accedent, no way you dont accedentaly give your baby any of that kind of stuff. this case has made me love my children&g/c so much more than i allready do, i go in and give my daughter so many kisses in the night i hopr this search gors fast, hope c has lots of meds she will truly need them
a while back i worked nights 3:30 to 2;00 got home at 2:30 got my daughter went home got up at 6:30 got her off to school , got back up at 10:00 to watch my grandchildren untill i went to work again, when i started days i told my daughter there might be a chance id have to go back to nights, she cried so much after all i only saw her 45 min a day, so i gave up the extra money of nights to be with her, im a singl mom at the time no c/s talk about hard x now after 2 car accedents i stay at home(back injury) i dont know why i told you guys that i guess the stress factor i had alot no one to live with and help me like m so i dont understand when people sympathize because she was a young single mom, defending her actions, i know none of you guys do but other people
good morning
i think im gonna have the g/c spend the night i have some new books for the littlest he just loves being read to, hes quite the stinker tho but to cute:)
good morning:) i couldnt sleep !
I’ve had trouble sleeping for the past 3 days now.
Hello friends…
yup, I am here. Totally floored at defence’s new revelation.. I wondrer how long it took BB to finally realize what kind of monster he is defendng] Also wonder if it was V8 (slap to his forehead) revelatiion to
BB that M changed her story completely?? Surely M is sick, but not in a clincal way, more in a evil dark way…
oh I believe BB knew all along.. but if you don’t say it out loud, then it couldn’t be true… think BB is just as delusional as the Ants and especally M.. Throw them all n gas chamber!!!,
oh NO, knew would happen sooner than later, computer dyng.. can not get the letter (between H & k) to type any longer Thnk the ants should pay to have my computer fxed!!!LOL
luv all… need to get computer fxed!!!
Hello ..
Thkn prob wth computer could be the coffee that was just splled on keyboard!!! Ekkks!!!!
Coffee and keyboards don’t mix lol
Why is Baez still with M when she lied about paying him and knows now she hasn’t worked since 2006 and stole money from everyone else? How can he believe that he’ll be paid when “He get’s her out of this mess” ???? Hmmmm
I also have to wonder why C & G haven’t paid Baez for M. Are they not paying her bill because deep down inside they know what M did? I bet that’s why G refuses to pay it.
I am back… had to switch pc with hubbies!!!! his ‘I” works…
I knew that I eventually kill my pc with all typing and drinking coffee!!!
Not to mention food which is probably stuck in keyboard.. I have practically lived on PC for months!!!!
Hey, anyone awake yet????
I am back… had to switch pc with hubbies!!!! his ‘I” works…
I knew that I eventually kill my pc with all typing and drinking coffee!!!
Not to mention food which is probably stuck in keyboard.. I have practically lived on PC for months!!!!
lmao well atleast your back now. I’m kinda feeling lonely here lol.
Well she is a repeat offender isn’t she…anyone can see that but i guess all her rights as a baby killer give her the chance not to be tried for her stealing…cause, oh she has never done it before and she is so young, and made a mistake….it was an accident…
1 child off to school, the other will be leaving in 15 minutes. Have a 10 yr old daughter and 12 yr old son. I don’t like putting very personal stuff on the blogs about my kids. But come to think of it, The defense wants to throw PPD and other BS out there,,, Glad she didn’t have my kids. Daughter is ADHD, Son is Severely ADHD,is deaf,has OCD,ODD,Autistic traits,Chromosome translocation displacement(4 and 11 are switched), Every day is an adventure. Somehow I’m still sane. I have medical problems too myself. Hubby is in the Army and when he leaves the kids act out because they think he’s gone forever. So once we have them calm, we have to start all over again. I guess this is why I have so much anger towards M. She has no idea how easy she really had it.
Pickle, did you get an e-mail back yet from TruTV? I just called and left a message and they are suppose to call back. I will let everyone here know what they say. So if you get an answer before me, let us know.
Good Morning,Everyone!
I believe that BB (Baez) took on the case for free. This is the first I’ve heard that M promised him $5K. Well he’s outta luck just like everyone else M ever knew.
It would not be C & G’s responsibility to pay him because M is adult.
Some of us figure BB took the case hoping for fame and glory. But he’s been such an idiot that that won’t happen - he’s going down in flames!
I’m sure TruTv will want to air the trial but it might be up to the trial judge as to whether it will be allowed. Sometimes the judge prohibits it and then the media “sues” or presents motions why they should be allowed etc. But I think all that will be decided shortly before the trial begins.
Wow, ProudArmyWife69! You really have your hands full and more power to you and your hubbie and beloved children!! You are so right when you say that M did not know how good she had it.
I know it’s not C & G’s resposibility to pay for it, But if C is so confident then why isn’t she helping pay for the bill? I guess I don’t know how to word it, what I’m trying to say.
It just irritates the heck out of me for the defense to say those 13 counts of check fraud don’t matter. I realize they’re saying that in conjunction with the murder charges but I don’t care.
M stole money and forged checks. That matters.
She did it. Plain fact. What are we supposed to believe? That our legal system says oh yeah if you kill someone or have another really serious charge against you then it’s fine for you to steal too? It doesn’t matter?
People all over the country who are currently accused of check fraud, should be screaming to be let off too!
And I do understand why they want to do this.
IF she’s convicted of murder then (supposedly) she’ll get enough prison time that (supposedly) the fraud won’t matter. And I understand that the defense does not want her to be tried for fraud before she’s tried for murder because then she’d go into the murder trial “with a record.” BUT SHE DID IT!
She stole! She should be prosecuted and I don’t care if it’s before, during or after the murder trial. She just should not be let off scot free.
Everyone knows M can’t and won’t pay Baez. So if she was suppose to pay $5,000 to him and she hasn’t and he knows she won’t be able to, why is he still on the case? MY theory is, they plan to take a deal for a movie and that’s when she’ll pay him.
If BB took the case pro bono it means he’s doing it for free. There is no bill and there never was going to be any bill. Lawyers do it all the time and in this case BB probably did it to try to enhance his career. Bad move!
Everyone is writting “note to self” don’t hire Baez. lol
How can we find out for sure whether he signed on pro bono or not?
You’re right, PAW69. There are plenty of ways BB might make money (indirectly) for defending M.
I don’t think the $5,000 makes much difference. At his point I’m sure that would be a drop in the bucket as far as his time and resources spent so far.
And there are much better reasons to drop M as a client - which he would not dare do at this point! (not even sure he’d be allowed to unless there were other factors involved)
C & G don’t have any money. What got my goat was that an organization called Kidfinders stepped in to pay for THEIR attorney - Mark Nejame, a criminal defense attorney! And “anonymous” paid for M’s bail before and “anonymous” paid for the public relations firm BB hired and for the “investigators” who are supposedly looking for a live Caylee.
So there is money floating around out there and I’m sure BB hopes some will fall into his pocket.
ProudArmy, You asked: Why isn’t she helping pay for the bill? Don’t know of even one occasion whenever she has accepted responsibility for anything. Has yet to be of any assist whatsoever in anything. Apparently does not feel she has done anything wrong. And that crazy old maw-maw and paw-paw continue defending her. And who will foot the bill? Taxpayers.
PAW69 at 8:08 am
I don’t know. It seemed pretty clear back when all this began. But we really can’t know who’s going to try to make money off this until after the trial. I bet a lot of people will try including BB (books, movies, interviews, etc)
Come to think of it, I could care less if he get’s paid. I just want Caylee to be found. Wow, we all sound like she is our own daughter who got taken from us. And her worthless mother could care less about her.
Flash, I was referring to C, Why isn’t C helping M pay the bill since she seems to think that Science is wrong about the evidence.
Wow, PAW, you make me feel like a real whiner.
I still keep mulling over WHY the state came out and said that there may not be enough evidence for the death penalty in this case. I’m not necessarily screaming for it, I think life in prison would be just as bad for a party pig like Casey. But WHY remove that threat so early on?
Why give the defense any breathing room?
hi ladies
MTC…I to agree that that maggott needs to face all charges against her…they are ready to go ahead with it so why should they be granted a delay….she deserves to go into her murder trial with a record…why the hell should she not…she should be sentenced for them and then the murder trial…cause if they find that baby the trial I am sure will be delayed…maybe then…she will be forced to fact the fraud…i dunno
D Jones, I think we’ll have alot more bombshells. Casey is getting too c*cky. I think they want her to think she may get away with this. And then BOOM!!!
Good morning, everyone…I also think she needs to be held accountable…and tried on every stinking thing she’s done!!
PAW - you certainly do have your hands full…it sounds to me, your children are lucky to have you for their mom!!!
PAW, I sure hope that’s it. I can actually feel GOOD about that reasoning.
I would loveeeeeeee to see the look on her face when the BOOM goes off. That would be so priceless.
Thank you Brown.
I’ve been up since 3 am…couldn’t go back to sleep…and found myself thinking about Caylee…I can’t wait to see m get what’s coming to her…and I hope the search teams find little Caylee asap…it is like the whole country has adopted this baby as their own!!
ONE MORE SLEEP I AM SO SO ANXIOUS FOR TOMORROW…Sharon if very luck to have the opportunity to help find our baby…I wish I could go search too!
PAW69 - Love the “Boom” thought and I’ll be rooting for it!
D Jones - I too am befuddled by the state weakening it’s own case in public at this time. Why? I can only think that it’s some kind of pre-trial gamesmanship between the state and the defense (referring to Lemon’s recent “IF she did it” theories - or rather “IF the ‘that child’ is dead” theories - damn their hides).
Flash - good point! When has M paid for anything with her own money? LOL! It must have been years ago!
CAYLEE~ANGEL and all! I too would like M to be tried for fraud before the murder trial. Unfortunately I’ll bet the judge will agree with the defense that they have such a huge job trying to work on the murder charge that they don’t have time to defend against the fraud right now. My answer to that is PLEAD GUILTY scumbag!! You did it! We SAW YOU!!!! This is not rocket science!). But I understand the reasoning now. I didn’t realize that going in to a murder trial with a record made it worse - but Heck! It couldn’t happen to a better person!
But for pete’s sake try her for fraud at some point! I couldn’t believe someone (I think on the defense side) said the fraud charges wouldn’t matter after the murder trial. Yes they do! Even if they only add 6 months to a year or two to her sentence she needs to be held responsible for that!
ProudArmyWife69 said,”I was referring to C, Why isn’t C helping M pay the bill since she seems to think that Science is wrong about the evidence.”
I’m sure that C is paying BB, especially since Cindy and George reportedly received upward of $200, maybe even up to $500, and still counting! Remember there were many times when C accompanied M to BB’s office, I’m sure those were the times that funds were discussed and money changed hands. Cindy is doing what she has always done for M… covering her tracks, paying her debts, and desperately trying to make her look good as M merrily skips along feeling no pain in what she did to her daughter or in the sadness and chaos that she created for her family.
Although I don’t get the opportunity to post in this blog like I use to, I’d like to mention that I see a lot of new names besides old familiar ones who are posting great well thought out comments! It’s a pleasure to read them and get caught up on the case even when I don’t have time to post. There are so many comments that I recently came across that are right on spot. I want to stop and reply, but I often get side tracked and it slips away from me.
Anyway, I just want to say that with everyone’s input, this has become a great blogging site again so, please keep up the great blogging!
Padilla also said that he would find Caylee by Monday.
“I told Casey Anthony before she threw me out of her house that I would find Caylee with or without her help,” Padilla said, “And I am going to do that.”
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Gotta love paddy bear…I sure hope his enthusiasm has to do with alot more information then they had before…
I would of loved to have heard him say that to maggot and see what her reaction was. HOLDIN YA TO YOUR WORD PADDY BEAR!!!!!!!
GOOD LUCK!
I honestly don’t think any of us will be sleeping tonight. Every time I pray, I guess goosebumps that are so strong, they raise my hair. This is the moment we’ve all been waiting for. “IF” they don’t find our little girl, C will be in everyone’s face and I will have to slap the TV when her face is on it. This is a sad sad sad thought, But!, “IF” they don’t find her then I will have no other choice but to think the worst of the worst, and that is that M fed our baby girl to the gators “cry”. I pray to Caylee all the time for herself to be shown when they search for her. To lead them right to her tomorrow. “”" Caylee our little angel, Please let them find you tomorrow, PLEASE!!!”"”
PAW…that’s exactly how I feel…and I do find myself praying the same things as you…that this search is over quickly, and Caylee is found…
was looking at a new interview about more recent lies about money to bb and that she told dcf people that she enjoyed working with different agencies to help find caylee…and stuff and C was talking about (as usual) that there is no evidence that caylee is dead…
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What i have noticed with both this interview, and the one with G talking about caylee being alive is their body language….
They BOTH look down when they say the words NOT DEAD…or their eyes look away with slow blink …this is tried and true body language of someone saying something they do not believe is true..when they don’t look you right in the eye or into the camera and look away or down, they are lying…I truly believe this…they have both done it…
D Jones said,”I still keep mulling over WHY the state came out and said that there may not be enough evidence for the death penalty in this case. I’m not necessarily screaming for it, I think life in prison would be just as bad for a party pig like Casey. But WHY remove that threat so early on? Why give the defense any breathing room?”
Hi D Jones, I’m wondering if they did this just before the search because they are sending a message to the defense team that clearly says: “It’s either now or never, once we find the body, it’s too late to make any deals and we will go for the death penalty.”
I think the prosecution team would be satisfied to make a plea deal where M goes to jail for life with no chance of parole. She would have to plead guilty and it would save the state tons of money. Although, I myself think she deserves the death penalty, I would be happy with her spending the rest of her life bored in jail. What convinced me of that was reading Pickle’s comment about her cousin saying that nothing prepares a person for jail life and the four walls that close in on you.
MMT - Gosh I never thought of that - that C might be slipping BB money! I do wish we could find out for sure who has gotten what money from where - including those 20/20 visuals so long ago - so all the world can know how they are making money off Caylee’s little short life! And Nejame has the nerve to accuse NG of making money off it! It’s all so sleazy!!
I said last night that I wished Paddy would just pick up Nejame by the scruff of his neck, set him on his lap and work him like a ventriloquist’s dummy. Nejame even looks like a ventriloquist’s dummy!
And PAW69 - I don’t think it’s too early for all of us to hit a toy store and buy a couple (dozen?) of those nerf balls or whatever they’re called. You know the ones that are bouncy but so soft? We’re going to need a bunch of them to throw at the TV in coming months especially if the trial is televised!
I said last night that I wished Paddy would just pick up Nejame by the scruff of his neck, set him on his lap and work him like a ventriloquist’s dummy. Nejame even looks like a ventriloquist’s dummy!
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LMAO..SO TRUE.
MTC…did yo pick up on the body language of c and g in interviews?
i cant believe how so many people are abusing kids there was another one a boyfriend beat a 18 mo old boy severly had to air lift the boy to a hospital, but i guess the mother had slapped the boy first then asked the guy to watch him, boy these are big brave people having to beat up on a helpless kid breaks my heart, makes me cry then you got this m who just has to party so she sedateds her kid what a bunch of losers, i pray they will find her little body tomorrow so we can all rest, im so excited about the search i can hardly stand it!
CA - Yes. What did you think about C & G?
I briefly heard something that I think Nejame said last night about someone asking for a GAG order. IMO I think it’s wayyyyyyyyyy too late for a GAG order.That should have been asked for at the very beginning. Why ask for it now??? Scared of something Nejame??? I don’t think at this point it would make anything any better. We already know too much. It’s not going to help anything or anyone.
I still think G has known something tragic happened long ago. But he’s caught up in the mental and emotional abuse of C & M. I really hope G gets far far away from them after this is over with.
mytwocents, thanks for the good laugh when you said “I wished Paddy would just pick up Nejame by the scruff of his neck, set him on his lap and work him like a ventriloquist’s dummy. Nejame even looks like a ventriloquist’s dummy!”
OMG… you are so right, Nejame does look EXACTLY like a ventriloquist’s dummy! LOL
I think that many of us got our first lesson in sleazy defense attorney’s dishonest tactics during the OJ trial. Defense should be based on the truth and you know that doesn’t happen since almost all criminals plead “Not guilty” regardless of how much evidence there is against them.
Not guilty is what the crook says even when there is a clear snapshot of the him robbing a liquor store. Go figure…
anna - you are so right. There are so very many cases of child abuse in this country it is sickening. Sometimes I wonder why we require driver’s licences but don’t require a license to become a parent!!! (I know that’s not practical nevermind the rest of the arguments). But even then. Even IF we required a license or at least parenting classes for pregnant women and the dads I’m sure that people like M and her mother C would slip on by and we’d still end up with “lost,” dead and abused children. I don’t know the answer but I sure wish someone would come up with something to minimize the horrors!
Speaking of which - why are so many abused kids given right back to their sicko abusers?
ONE time is enough for me and that parent/relative would never see that child again. I don’t understand it.
Ah! I have an idea! Let’s require parents and relatives who abuse their kids to REGISTER just like sex offenders have to. Then the whole world will know - and the neighbors and teachers and others who know the children will know to watch for signs of further abuse!!!
There are alot of things we’ll never understand. Laws need to be changed.
mtc…10:04 post
saw online last night of a guy who severly beat a womans baby in an apartment right in ORange county florida….baby airlifted to hospital when mom called 911 …bf fled but was caught…haven’t heard about conditon of baby boy..
“Note to self” Never ever move to Florida.
CA - Thank you! I had missed it. Sometimes when I “refresh” I don’t think all of the posts show up. Then they do the next time. I’ll check back better in future.
And yes I agree on the body language.
Plus how can anyone “enjoy” working with missing children organizations? It’s just so inappropriate to put it that way! I suppose I’m picking it apart but still…
MMT..your right..and m was totally caught on tape at target and the bank…and plead not guilty…how is that possible…when there is 100% without a doubt evidence the sentence should be automatic…THERE SHOULD NOT BE A DEFENCE…ITS DISGUSTING.
MTC…the thing is…Maggot told dcf people that she enjoyed helping find caylee and working with the people….BUT SHE NEVER DID…another bold face flat out lie…to dcf investigators…
mytwocents “Why are so many abused kids given right back to their sicko abusers? ONE time is enough for me and that parent/relative would never see that child again. I don’t understand it.”
As I have mentioned before, my son works for Children’s Protective Services and I can tell you it’s a very grueling job. They are not allowed to speak about the cases but sometimes I can see it in his eyes because he lives, breathes and has such a passion for protecting abused children.
Whether we agree or not the ultimate goal of CPS is to reunite the family, if at all possible, under an umbrella of safety.
Children who are removed from abusive homes need to be placed in foster care. How many people do you personally know who is a foster caregiver? My point is that they are far and few between. But, God bless those Foster parents out there who open their homes and hearts to abused children, for that is another very difficult job.
I know this is going to sound really mean but it is the way i have felt from the start of all this. I know DEEP down in my heart that poor Caylee is dead and her mom Casey is the reason. I hope to god that the courts do not give her the easy way out by giving her the death penalty. I hope they throw her butt in prison for life and put her in with the general population. Those women in there will eat her alive and that is what she disearves. I want her to have to live everyday of her life thinking about what she did to that poor baby girl.
Killr also told the ppl at dcf that the cops wont break her and that she is innocent…she also told them that the cops were tryin to make her confess…she will not be brokn..yah we’ll see about that!!!
Dcf workrs after that interview said that Caylee wus in great risk…they also said that killr was calm and cool they said it was eerie..that she had seemd detachd from Caylee
PS:: Good morning everyone of muh dahlins!!!
Hi All,
I was reading the transcripts from G’ interview and he made no bones about the fact he doesn;t care for BB.
Also, did anyone see where he stated that he and C seperated in 2005 becuase of “issues with their daughter and money issues.”?
mornin bump
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Uhh they didnt answer my question!!
Yah they were gunna divorce cus c and killr are losers and killr wus puttn a strain on there marriage…..and well you see how c is wuld you stay married to her??? Now he feels he has to protect her..whutta joke…that poor man..I think he wus the only one who truelly genuinly loves Caylee..I mean I kno c loves Caylee and all but I mean g seems so so distraught in those interviews….he’s the only one who came to absolute terms with it the only one who wuld tell about killr’s ways….
bump, I agree. He sounded in the interview that he knows. He just wants them to find as much evidence as they can so he can fianlly convince C that M did something to her.
I think that he why he went out to the are that is going to be searched. He knows she is out there somewhere.
it was sad reading where he got sick over this entire thing. I could just feel his emtion at the time. poor guy,.
I’m sure in the world of legal mumbo-jumbo, there is a reason why a murder trial should precede a check fraud trial, even thought the fraud charges came first. But I don’t get it. Is the court doing this since they feel the “murder” actually happened before the check cashing, which is what everyone suspects?
I hope if she is convicted of murder, that the fraud charges will not disappear! This woman needs to serve every single day for all these charges. Even if she doesn’t get the death penalty, she could get life without parole and then top that with fraud convictions. This little liar could just die an old lady in big sunglasses in her cell. That’s justice I could live with.
I also have to laugh at her comment about “enjoying helping look for missing children”. What planet does she live on? Maybe when OJ gets out of prison, he could give her lessons on how he “searched for the killers”.
Every time I think I have heard it all, another egomaniac comes along and shows me how many dangerous people are living amongst us.
We can’t rush the courts, let them do the job correctly, dot every i and cross every t. The country is watching FL, lets hope the state doesn’t let us down.
It was very intersting as well when they were trying to figure out daters and G finally realizes that he 26th was the same days as the cans went missing and he goes, “Om my God! That is the same dayas the cans!” You could tell he put two and two together.
The reason the murder trial is goin b4 the check fraud is cus ITS MURDER!! There is no reason for the check crimes to go first..think about it …she murderd her child..she needs to be tried and punishd for it post haste…it makes absolute sense…its murder…I mean check fraud is small potatos compard to a murder1 charge/trial I dunt mean to sound rude or nuthn but she needs to be tried on this first then once she is convictd all the other charges can commense !!
I talkd to someone last night about sedating a child and if killr did it clever enuff there is the possibilty that Caylee wuld have no memeory of being sedated with chloroform..she said that a childs brain would just think she fell asleep..and that when she woke up and shook it off killr prolly creatd memories for her to have of “nanny” she said that if she had waitd for Caylee to fall asleep in the car then sedated her with it..or told Caylee like close yur eyes mommas gotta do something that yes it wuld be uncomfortable for Caylee but she prolly wuld not remember it…due to the chemicals effects on her tiny brain and after she woke killr prolly told her she fell asleep on the way to the nannys and creatd sum sik memories for the child to have…its sick!!!
Muh friend also told me that when c questiond Caylee about the nanny Caylee prolly lookd confused when askd then prolly had to think back to what momma had told her..oh nanny has black hair..or nanny dog is soo nice its disturbing..to say the least!!!
Hi, Bump…that is sick…and it makes me nauseous just to think about it!! But someone said they wanted the murder trial first…cuz you can get a worse sentencing if you have a conviction on your record…so basically… since it’s obvious she guilty (I mean, come on…she’s on the tape!!)…the defense wants her record clean in the murder trial…I don’t think that’s going to help them…but I guess they don’t have much more to lose…
I felt bad cus Snookers and I were kinda having a disagreemant about if Caylee wuld remember gettin sedated with chlormix so I investigatd it..Now I need to find Snookers and apologize for soundn rude…I didnt mean to..I feel like a pile now..we WERE NOT FIGHTING in any way I just was absolutaly not agreeing with her…
Bump0naPickle, I want to thank you for posting the comment made by Sarah Teague. I wouldn’t have seen that without you bringing it to our attention. Sarah knows exactly what the Ants are going through… I feel so bad for her. Her comments are truly a gift to C and G because she has experienced much of what they are going through. Pickle, I agree with you too that G is the most honorable person in that dysfunctional family.
bump…if she was convicted on check fraud first she would be going into murder trial with a record…part of the reason the defense wants the death penalty taken off the table is cause she has NO prior convictions…
She would be a repeat offender and get more time on whatver form of murder she get’s convicted on..
ON the other hand…if ya want to flip the coin..and she gets sentenced for murder or manslaughter whatever it may be….then we go for the Fraud…she would indeed be a repeat offender and she would get more time slapped on for the fraud instead of a slap on the wrist…
So as I was writing this it seems to me that she will get the fraud anyway if she gets anything less then murder one.
Browneyes !!!
Hay I got to take muh boy to skool ill be bak in two shakes of a lambs tail..if u see Snookers tell her I lub her and I am gonna grovel at her feet!!
GOOD MORNIN E1
ANY NEW NEWS?
hi mamabear…
I AGREE WITH SOMEBODY ABOVE DON’T MEMBER WHO BUT THIS BLOG HAS REALLY GOTTEN BACK ON TRACK. THE “IN YOUR WINDERS” HAVE FINALLY CALMED DOWN.
DIDNT THINK IT WOULD BUT WHEW — IT FINALLY DID.
SO — NO BIG NEWS-YET?
I remember someone (maybe Concerned About Caylee) speculating that another possible motive for M getting rid of Caylee was because she was starting to talk and put sentences together. M was afraid that Caylee was getting better and better at telling what was going on when they were away from home. I think that makes a lot of sense and has haunted me ever since I read that comment.
(((((HUGGS))))) ARMY
SLUT DIDNT KNOW WHAT BAD IS. SHE HAD FOOD–ROOF OVER HER HEAD–A CAR–NO JOB–CINDY TO TAKE CARE OF CAYLEE. SOUNDS GOOD TO ME.
ALL SHE HAD TO DO WAS GIVE CAYLEE TO C AND SHE WOULDNT BE SITTIN HER THONGED ASS IN JAIL RAT NOW.
CAYLEE WOULD HAVE PROBABLY TURNED OUT A VERY NICE WOMAN IF M HAD BEEN OUT OF HER LIFE.
HE-HE CAN I CLEAR A ROOM OR WHAT!!!!!!!
Bump0naPickle said,”I felt bad cus Snookers and I were kinda having a disagreemant about if Caylee wuld remember gettin sedated with chlormix so I investigatd it..Now I need to find Snookers and apologize for soundn rude…I didnt mean to.”
Pickle, you are always willing to accept responsibility for your actions, that is such a nice quality in a person. Knowing Snookers too, she has a big heart and she agrees to disagree
The fraud will not go away. Remember, Amy pressed charges. Therefore it has to go on. Also Zanny is pressing charges. That will go on too. I was thinking, most of us want the death penalty, But ya know what, Life in prison without parole to make her think each and every day of what she did to little Caylee would be more of a punishment, Rather than the easy way out and getting the needle or chair. I would also force her to have pictures of her daughter all over her cell. I know that won’t happen. Because she still doesn’t have pictures of her in her cell. “Innocent”, far from it. “Cold,Evil,Heartless”, all the way to the edge and then some.
so true mamabear….so sensless …there were other ways to get your freedom…she could have just walked away..and caylee would be looking forward to Santa Clause…I’m sorry but I find myself thinking alot about caylee and halloween and Christmas and.speaking of which…Poor G and C …this xmas will be exruciating for them…
M hated C because she was more of a mother to Caylee than she was. That’s why giving her to C was not an option. She really is a spiteful biotch!
I HOPE ZANNY AND AMY DONT GIVE UP ON THE CHARGES. SHE DESERVES WHAT EVER THEY CAN PILE ON HER.
paw…ya I know, guess G was right when he said maggot takes everything to the extreme…she would rather be miserable and sedating that poor child then allow C to be happy cause maggott is gone and C had her baby…which is prob. all she wanted…
Maggot is a spiteful biotch.
I KNOW PROUD. BUT HER EVILNESS SURE PUT A STOP THE PARTY SIDE OF LIFE.
I DONT THINK IT WILL BE SO BAD FOR HER IN PRISON. MAYBE FOR A MONTH MATBE 2 BUT SHE WILL ADJUST AND FIND HER NITCH. SUSAN SMITH DID
I don’t think either zanny or amy will give up..Amy poor thing comes home from vacation and has no money to live on…but zanaida gonzalez can’t change her name!
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maggot really didn’t give shit about anyone else in this world but her own skanky ass-0-la..what a destructive, manipulative monster
BUT SHE CUT OFF HER NOSE TO SPITE HER FACE.
SHIT–NOW SHE DONT EVEN GET TO SEE PAST HER NOSE CUZ SHE CUT IT OFF.
WISHED I HAD HAD MY MOTHER TO HELP ME WITH RAISING MY KIDS. SHE DIED WHEN I WAS 5. M HAD IT MADE.
let alone the worst thing she did to caylee and the destruction she left behind for G and C to deal with…forever…their little caylee never coming home…that is inexcusable…to the millionth degree…no , no parole for that bitch…caylee didn’t get a second chance at life, hell she didn’t even get a crack at it…
Oh boy really early to start getting wound up but when you stop and think of everything she destroyed….she’s a train wreck out of control smashing into anything in it’s way…and keeps on going….
mama poor thing…do you have memories of your mamabear? I hope so!
I HEAR YA CA.
My parents are helpful, So helpful they are moving here to help me due to hubby leaving in August, Being deployed to Iraq. No matter how hard it’s been with me and my kids, They are my kids, I love them more than life itself, If I had no other choice and was in such depression, I would have my kids go to my mother whether I liked it or not and whether I wanted to or not. I’ve lived my life, My kids are still living their own lives. They didn’t ask to be here. But my precious gifts are here and no matter what it is my duty to make sure they get the best that I can provide for them. God gave them to me for a reason just the way they are. And I would NEVER want to change who they are. M YOU PISS ME OFF SO BAD I just want to ,,,, grrrrrrrrrr , I better shut up now.
- Just read a chilling book called The Devil and the White City. True story about American architects and the Chicago World’s story AND the serial killer Herman Webster Mudgett who used CHOLROFORM to kill many of his victims. It’s grotesque yet compelling. I could not stop thinking of m. Like him, she is a true psycopath. Not sure what Mama and Snookers were arguing about, but there is certainly a certain amount of terror involved when chloroforming someone. How could someone not freak out having a rag held over their mouth?! Especially by their own mother.
Also, am I detecting sympathy for George? Saw something to that effect last night. He needs to come clean.
MMT good morning
I just wanted to comment on why there aren’t more foster homes. These abused children are often from horrible criminal people and they learn to turn their kind, well intentioned foster parents in for abuse that NEVER HAPPENED.
They know the system and if they get annoyed they just close down the home. Thus, the huge turnover rate of foster homes. The foster parents’ name is dragged through the mud, so people are really cautious going into this.
NOT MANY CA. BUT BET THAT I MADE PLENTY LONG THE WAY FOR MY KIDS. SIMPLE ONES LIKE LAYIN ON THE HOOD OF THE CAR WATCHIN THE STARS—-MAKING THANGS OUT OF CLOUDS. PLAYING IN THE CREEK BED. MANY OTHER THANGS MOST DIDNT HAVE ANYTHING TO DO WITH MONEY. LIFE IS GOOD. IS WHAT U MAKE IT
Come to think of it, no wonder C acts the way she does. She had to raise that spiteful biotch and she has prolly shite on them from day 1. C is torn between her granddaughter and her daughter with so many different reasons. I’m amazed she’s not in a nut house right now. As I sit here and really think about everything, I can actually see now why C is the way she is. M took everything from her and G. And C doesn’t know which way to turn anymore. Gah, this breaks my heart even worse now.
BTW,
I haven’t seen or heard of John Walsh coming near this fiasco with a ten foot pole.
Has he ever been involved?
I’d love to see Cindy try to tear him down and completely fail. He is an American hero.
IT’S OK PROUD. I HEAR U. U GOOD MAMA
Super, JW would have to put her in her place for sure. But his thoughts I would love to hear about. sincerely I would.
HEY JUNKIE—VAL
LOL WASN’T ME N SNOOKERS THO. WAS A BUNCH OF US AND SOMEBODY ELSE. BUT THAT IS IN THE PAST AND WE B MOVIN ON.
HEYY NITA
SCJ - I have been on and off the fence with George but am no convinced he has anything to do with the crime or covering for M…some things that investigators are saying he said and that he was physically sick etc. and most of all…The the post from Sarah Teague who’s daughter Heather, is missing and and not found…put it in perspective for me as caylee’s grandparents, they are victims no matter how much their stupidity sometimes can irritate and cause us to judge them, I am sure they would never have hurt caylee and only lovedher…it must be hell! So sarah put it perspective from the standpoint, she knows how they feel, we don’t..unless you have walked in their shoes….G has also been the only sane one and is doing what he can to protect his family in supporting C’s delusions..after all she is his wife. He must love her! I think they have every right to hold onto hope to find that baby alive…C’s defending and flip flops with maggot are another story. G I think is at least being truthfull to the cops. So yes, I do feel for them as much as I can get mad and judge, it’s got to be the worst thing any grandparent or parent can go through. I also belived G when he said he would give his life is Caylee would just be dropped off at home…
SCJ - John Walsh….very good point!
WASN’T HE ON NG ONE NIGHT SAYING THAT THE SEARCH WASN’T A GOOD IDEA?
mambear…who? G..I didn’t see him on last night?
JW is always highly visible in missing persons cases. It speaks volumes that his name has not been associated with any of this. NG needs to get him as a guest but I think he’s too credible and respectable to engage in the sensationalism surrounding all of this.
This case is starting to remind me of the JonBenet Ramsey case.
John Walsh
BUT NOT LAST NIGHT. BOUT WEEK AGO
or john walsh? Who the hell in their right mind (besides C cause we know she is a sandwich short of a picnic) would say searching for a missing baby presumed dead and alone in the woods to be a bad idea?
Therapist thank you for the compliment…Yah I bet that is another reason she got rid of Caylee cus eventually Caylee wuld start to speak about the partys and not really having any real memories of “nanny” and eventually Caylee wuld know that she wus being druggd with the chlormix and that once she got oldr she wuldnt be able to chlormix Caylee anymore due to Caylee fighting back and being able to remember enuff to tell grandma whut momma was doin to her..makes sense!!
MAYBE THAT WAS KLESS (SPELL)
Sorry Mama,
Did not know he was just on. We don’t have cable so I get all my NG updates here.
Why on Earth would he think the search was a bad idea? In case they don’t find a body?
SHE COULD HAVE GOTTEN PISSED AND CAYLEE WAS THROWIN A “KID” FIT AND M KILLED HER THRU RAGE
MAMABEAR said,in November 7th, 2008 at 11:54 am HE-HE CAN I CLEAR A ROOM OR WHAT!!!!!!!
Did yew fart MAMA???
WHO EVER HE WAS SAID THAT THEY ARE GONNA BE 2 MANY PEEPS TROMPIN THRU THE WOODS AND DAMAGE EVIDENCE
caylee is listed on AMW website but it’s far from up to date!
LMAO BUMP. LOOKED LIKE IT THERE FOR A MIN
Yah but the rage thing is no bueno cus then it wuld fall right in with her ppd excuse and her depression and blah blah blah…I blakd out and then when I came to Caylee wus well dead..and boo hoo shed start cryn
THEM PEEPS ARE GONNA BE TRAINED WITH A GROUP LEADER. TIM SAID HE HAD 250 TEAM LEADERS. HE AINT STUPID-HE KNOWS WHAT HE B DOIN
oh mamabear it was Marc Klaas..he was irate…wtf…I don’t respect him for thinking that …after all …who does he think tim miller is a boy-scout…that was a backward sorta way stab in tims back..i didn’t like his demeanor
val, you are so right in your observation of why there are not more foster homes. Most people don’t realize what foster parents go through. They may get a call in the middle of the night saying that two children were removed from a house and they have a bad case of lice… and that’s just the tip of the iceberg. The foster parents may have children of their own who are exposed to these kinds of things and much worse. But, CPS is always working to make things better.
Mama, don’t even buy rage. This was pure premeditation.
DONT THINK IT WOULD FAZE HER ONE WAY OR OTHER. SHE STILL EMPLY. BIG BIRTHA GONNA FILL ER UP
I hope Flowerchild is feeln bettr today…my neighbors cat just passd frum cancer..it wus soo sad..it use to meeoooow and try an come in muh house but yew culdnt pet it cus the cancer wus all over its face..it wus sooo sad I just wuntd to cuddle it and pet her and tell her she wus beautiful and she wuld feel bettr soon and that God luv’s her..they hadda euthenze her…poor kittY
THERE U GO CA. THANKS:
CAYLEE~ANGEL said,in November 7th, 2008 at 12:30 pm
mamabear..exactly…tim knows what he is doing…all the leaders with experienced backgrounds and all of the serachers will obviously be prepped and trained to what to do and look for…this is tims expertise and I just felt marc klaas, well had no klaas…
She knew C was going to go get custody, and that’s prolly what that last fight was about. so yeah, she was in rage already, so you put a raging spiteful biotch and a child she hates due to grammy being the better mother of the 2 together and this is the deadly result. Mind you, due to all of the hatefullness between M and C, Naturally C would feel guilty, which is why C has to no matter what hold onto the thoughts and hopes that Caylee is still alive. This is where her behavior really isn’t that shocking if you think about it. She’s hoping if she’s nice enough long enough that maybe, just maybe M will tell her the truth about Caylee. But because M is so spiteful and being so hateful because of all this, she is enjoying the pain and the circus she has put her mother in. She wants her mother to feel the pain that she thinks she felt because C was the better parent. M wanted it her way and her way only. No comprise whatsoever.
AWWWWWWW BUMP. SO SAD
paw..your right…m is prob. sitting in jail laughing at c with CWHCO syndrome…and thinking…well most of my plan worked!
WHEN HE WAS ON NG I SAID “PLLLLLLTTTTTTT”
Now I actually feel sorry for C too. Wow, thought I’d never say that. But after saying all of that and really thinking about it. WOW!!!
I hope big bertha gives her crabs…
I don’t feel sorry for the Defense, they are in this for profit of a movie and they all know it.
paw…it’s so true…i do feel for them too but ya have to be able to look at them as humans and to set aside their stupidity for a minute…they are in a bad place..and prob. will never recover…they didn’t hurt that baby. It was maggots choices and decisions that have destroyed so much.
Sympathy for C? Pleaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaase!
She created her own mess. Does anybody ever take responsiblilty for their actions anymore?!
ProudArmyWife69 said,in November 7th, 2008 at 12:33 pm
UR RIGHT–I CAN SEE THAT
PAW69 the last fight wus about her stealing from c’s elderly parents and about killr cleanin up her act an becoming a bettr parent to Caylee and that if she wusnt willin to do so c wus gunna get custody..and killr culdnt have that cus if c got custody killr wuld be out on the curb with no free ride no mo no free rent no free car to drive nothn so that compild with Tony not wantn Caylee over that night made her glitch and kill her she wus done with Caylee that child had cuased her enuff grief and headaches she hated Caylee its like she saw Caylee as the other woman…Caylee wus nothn more than a thorn in killr’s side…she took everything she lovd away from her and she wus not gonna let her lose another man or her home and so she did everyone a favor since no one got along due to Caylee she killd her..
CA, if C and G had been honest and forthcoming perhaps I would feel pity for them. Not now.
Junkie I do !!!
Amy might have been reimbursed by her
bank since they were stolen checks and fraudulently cashed. She may have
pressed charges or it may have been her bank who did for restitution,
depending on their policy - I think if you’ve had checks stolen and cashed
the bank’s insurance would cover it.
Junkie didnt yew read g’s interview with LE the one he had to do in private..he wus honest and forth coming….he straight out thre killr under the bus!! for real its amazing to read!!! c she is a diff story she dont kno the word honest!!!
SCJ - you can find sympathy for her if you really look within…having sympathy doens’t mean we like what she says or does or even understand. She is a flake but she didn’t kill that baby
Yes the bank has to reinburst yew for fraudulant crimes commitd against you!!!
You’re all going soft.
Save your pity and sympathy for those who truly need or deserve it.
SCJ, did C kill her granddaughter? No. Did she? No she didn’t. M made that mess in the first place. C is at a loss. Can you think straight when your granddaughter is missing? No. Can you accept people saying your granddaughter is dead? No. Can you accept people saying your daughter killed your granddaughter? No. No No No!!! Everyone acts differently in serious situations. She wants her granddaughter back. She doesn’t want to believe her daughter did this. Like I said before, I’m amazed she’s not in a nut house already. I couldn’t imagine going through something like this.
CA - NEVER going to happen.
SCJ - I think G was forthcoming from the start..and truthful..especially at GJ…but if you just think for second what they have lost at the hand of their own daughter and how that must feel…with everything else aside…they are human beings going through the biggest hell ride of their lives. Just m/o…not trying to change your opinion but I was like you about both c and g but if you detach with the anger and judgement for just a second and think of the pain of losing their grandaughter must be like…
SCJ - Your perogative! I am not trying to tell you that you have to…Just trying to answer your question on “sympathy” as best I can.
I do believe that people act differenly in extreme circumstances, but I personally believe that C and G are involved in some sort of cover up (and no, it’s no a conspiracy theory.) Their lack of assistance, in my mind, does not stem from an inability to cope or denial.
That being said, I am going to take my cold-as-ice heart and go with my son to playgroup.
SCJ - sympathy has many faces and levels and can be directed at many different people at the same time…that’s the nice thing about sympathy…it has no bounds!
We all feel differently, so don’t tell me to save my sympathy for someone YOU feel deserves it!
Trust me , I was hateful towards C too. Until I stepped back and thought about everything. And tried putting myself in C & G’s shoes. I can’t be hateful anymore towards them because of that. I just can’t. No one here can say how they would react in this exact situation because no one has been in this exact situation. So from here on out I will not pass judgement on C & G. Now M on the other hand, That’s a different story. But God will take care of M.
IT TOUCHED ME WHEN C WAS HOLDING THAT LIL GIRL. I DONT CARE WHAT OR WHO SHE IS. I COULD FEEL THAT HUG. SHE WAS ACKIN FOR CAYLEE. YES I COULD FEEL HER. SHE LOVED OUR BABY. SHE AKES FOR HE TO BE IN HER ARMS. I HAVE HAD THA FEELING WID KIDS. BEEN THERE DONE THAT
Whoa whoa whoa there is no need for this today lets all just remember its our own feelings we are expressing here not everyone has sympathy for them none of us did in the beginning and some of still dont…lets all just realize we are disagreeing to agree this is not necassary please lets just stop now…
Mamabear..I didn’t see that one..We all know C has problems way before maggot took away and killed that baby…but it’s clear she loved the baby! And for her to also have to deal with her little skanky ass maggot daughter and to think that she had anything or everything to do with it must never leave her mind!
I mean I still think c is in hot water for cleanin that car and those pants and killr stashin the body in the yard !! She does need to xplain herself for those actions thats for sure ….
They want to look for a Caylee who THEY feel is alive. They can’t come to terms to look for a Caylee who may be gone already. I can now understand that from them. They really do have that right. I personally would prolly look no matter what. But then again I don’t know if I would or not either. I’ve never had to deal with anything like this.
Sarah Teague said,in November 6th, 2008 at 5:15 pm Bless their hearts..George and Cindy Anthony..Their world has been changed and rearranged forever. They know that their own daughter has taken the most precious gift God ever gave them away. And now, very soon, they will have no choice but to accept this harsh reality. George is the ultimate hero here. In my eyes, he ’saw’ how his wife, Casey’s mom and Caylee’s grandmother, reacted to the death smell. He saw that she could not and would not hear that Casey killed Caylee. He is holding on to his wife, the mother of his child and, and the grandmother to their only grandchild. What a devastating way to live..without hope and pretending that there is to keep Cindy ‘alive’. We must pray for George and for Cindy. The day of Caylee’s homecoming is very near. The way things are going,it wouldn’t surprise me in the least for Casey to finally tell that Caylee’s death was an accident. ( just so she would not/may not face the death penalty). How devastating it has to be for Cindy, as a nurse, to even fathom that Casey created chlorophom to sedate Caylee. Cindy knows that Caylee just didn’t go to sleep, as we all would like to believe. I am just praying for strength for George and for Cindy as they face the truth. I have maintained hard and steady that it is the unknowing that is so unmerciful. My Heather was abducted August 26, 1995 and we still don’t know where she is. After feeling the Anthony’s pain and seeing how they are dealing with this, I’m quite sure that this knowing will be beyond devastating for them. They have allowed themselves to become one of ‘us’. Few of us can ‘go there’ in our hearts, but I can. http://www.WhereIsHeatherTeague.com
I’ve posted in several blogs how tough it is on a daily basis for Cindy to open a cabinet and see Caylee’s empty sippy cup. George is there and he probably has taken them all away, so Cindy cannot see. Caylee’s bed is empty. And Casey’s car smelled like ‘death’. George is protecting his family as he should and my heart breaks for them all.
bump - that’s right..we all have same and different opinions to be heard but not forced!
Thats frum the mother of a missing teenage girl who was kidnappd bak in 1995 she graced us with her presence and gave us some new insight yesterday …but everyones feelings are what they are and there is no need to start actin like jurks to one another and startin in on the negative level…I LUV YOU ALL!!! FEEL THE LOVE!!!
PAW - Then by all means, the ants should go looking. They certainly have had enough time.
Where do you think they should start?
I’M NOT SAYING C IS THE BRIGHTEST STAR UP THERE BUT I DO KNOW SHE LOVED THAT BABY.
SHE DOES GO ROUND WITH PAPER TOWELS CLEANING UP AFTER M BUT I NOT SAYING ANYTHING ABOUT WHAT SHE DID OR DIDNT DO. AM JUST SAYIN SHE LOVED THAT BABY.
paw…The thing that I DO NOT AND WILL NEVER respect or have sympathy for G and C is that their refusal to help look for caylee in the woods…They may not want to believe it but they really don’t know or have proof themselves that she IS alive..so finding her period should be their main objective and slamming good hearted people who just want to find her even if means in the woods. The disrespect was very uncalled for…
How do you know they haven’t been looking? Can you say for a fact that they haven’t been looking? We don’t know every little detail that they have or haven’t done. And the media has only shown the bad things.
paw…I really hope that we see at least G out looking tomorrow…he was seen looking into the woods…he loved caylee so much, it’s obvious..What an honorable and wonderful moment it would be to see them both help…what a turning point that would be and a positive one for healing. They need to look, they need to be there…I know it prob. won’t happen but one can dream.
HAS E1 READ THE RULES FOR BLOGGIN FROM JAN AND SIMON?
PAW - The only info I have is from the media, which tends to be very biased anyway. So, perhaps they have been ferverishly looking. Wonder what they’ve found.
WOULD HATE TO LOOSE ANYBODY FOR FIGHTIN
It was uncalled for yes. She has to answer to those she has hurt. I have to wonder if G will go help and maybe C will too. We should pray for them. Pray for God to give them whatever it is they need to get the courage to go in them woods and look.
The ants from the start really should have been co-operative with ES…this whole argument of live or dead caylee made me wanna knock c upside the head…she would only co-op with people who saw things her way…the rest in her mind could go to hell.
According the evidence and in C’s mind not enough but in reality the chances of it being not caylee in the trunk are next to none…
Then after ….no body is found, the might believe she is NOT dead…they kinda got it backwards..but if in the end they show up and help search…cause tim said they promised to co-operate..whatever that means…then in the end they are doing the right thing.
I truly think that G has known is is trying to keep the rest of his family together. He is just waiting for more eveidnce so it will help him convince C and L that M did it. He states in his interview that “It is just the 3 of them now and he ahs to take care of C and L and himslef.” He knows but as an ex officer he knows what it takes to get a conviction.
In his interview it sounds like he was truly trying to help them find eveidence to show M guilty.
My opinion…
The thing I dunt like about c is her unwillingness to shut her mouth…she has put the whole world down….and she cleand that darnd car..dang it…but to be honest she does act like a shes guilty of something..but I think denial is a face easily worn in a situation like this…her and g took on the role or mother and father to that child..its not just a grandchild to them it wus a child…just like if someone killd yur adoptd child killr wusnt there raising Caylee only 10% of the time did she have Caylee for Caylee’s whole life so to them they have lost a child not just a grandchild…but still c does act strange none the less I do have to say!!
I think that if they were out searchn it wuld be all over the tv for real I mean someon seen g out by the woods and it was headline news..Im not sayn that there not out searchin but if they were we’d kno it…and for them to go out and search that wuld mean c wuld have to admit that Caylee is in fact dead and I dunt think she has dun that yet…
Hi Everybody,
Oh Bump, you silly goose. You were never rude.
Absolutely no need to apologize. What for???
Blogs are opinions of people. If everybody would agree with each other. Why even have a blog. Would be too boring.
We all learn from opinions different than our own and thus reexamine our own opinions again.
At least I do.
Rude is calling people derogatory names, interrupting people( Heh, heh, you cannot do that on a blog) or attacking people based on stictly personal matters, not associated with subject article at all.
Anyway, I think that most bloggers do have some empathy for C & G although no sympathy. Remember even C would have never hurt Caylee like her diabolical daughter did.
I’m not arguing with anyone. I just stated my opinions about C is all.
Then all of a sudden I lost all blogging. which is odd. But oh well, I’m back.
Bump…yes C is strange and says waaaaaaaaay too many idiotic things. for sure. I do feel she would do anything to keep m outta jail cause she just can’t come to terms that her daughter murdered her (baby)…she refuses to deal with that which is why saying something stupid (the way the world sees it) to her is better then uttering the words…caylee is dead..it’s like there is a part of her brain that is just shut down to dealing with that kinda pain…
SNOOKERS AWW I LUV YOU…and yew are right c never ever wuld of hurt Caylee like I said they were raising Caylee as if she wus there own child…but c does act funny !!!
snook said: We all learn from opinions different than our own and thus reexamine our own opinions again.
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exactly my point AND my experience as well and I thank MAMABEAR for telling me to go read what sarah teague wrote…
PAW69 I lost the blog to for a moment so Its prolly trubble on Jan&Simons end..but all is well I gots it bak…
I’M GLAD CAYLEE HAD C TO CUDDLE HER. I SEE IN THE PICS OF C HOLDING CAYLEE THAT SHE LOVED HER. AWWWWWWWWWWW. YES, IN A WAY I DO FEEL SORRY FOR C AND HER LOSE.
I read whut Sarah wrote yesterday right after she postd it it made me cry I culd never imagine staring into muh cuboard and never bein able to fill my daughters sippy cup again it straight made muh cry…
I don’t appreciate being attacked for my opinion. but I will get over it. I’m here for Caylee first and for most. I have just stepped back and tried to walk in C’s shoes is all. Which I don’t ever want to have to literally do, EVER. How I feel now about C & G, no one else has to agree with. And by all means, I’m not saying that some things they have said or done are right. BUT!, we are ALL human.
I HAD TO OPEN MY HEART SOME FOR C WHEN “SARAH” POSTED AND I READ G’s INTERVIEW.
HEYYYY SNOOKS
MAMABEAR said,in November 7th, 2008 at 1:24 pm I HAD TO OPEN MY HEART SOME FOR C WHEN “SARAH” POSTED AND I READ G’s INTERVIEW.
HEYYYY SNOO
I Agree. G is trying to keep c sane it seems. He says several times, to pelase call him so he can break the news to c and l if they find anything.
I made me sad when he talks about the fact that C had to take the main time of raising M becuase he was working alot and that he was able to be with little Caylle and that he was so very close to her.
Xactly Caylee~angel…c’s brain has shut down and I think it has alot to do with the fact that she cleand Caylees dead corpsie juices (sorry) out of that trunk and I bet that has damaged her for ever…she is traumatized at the fact that it culd of been Caylee she cleand out of that car…it wuld screw me up for ever…
Bump I think that and the fact that she rasied someone capable of doing that to a child. That would be VERY hard to deal with as well.
When a loved one dies, I think the hardest things is to deal with their personal things that are left behind. Like cloths etc.
Some people never can and leave the room of their loved one practically untouched except for cleaning occasionally..
Bet Caylee’s room is practically untouched in the Ants house.
sympathy
A feeling of pity or sorrow for the suffering or distress of another; compassion.
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empathy:
understanding and entering into another’s feelings
I wasn’t sure exactly the difference between the two which is why i googled them…
I def. have sympathy as empathy would mean I understand what they are going through and what they are feeling cause I don’t..
I KNOW NITA. ISN’T ROOM IN MY HEART (NOW THAT I’M OLD) FOR 2 MUCH HATE. SARAH AND G DID A LOT FOR ME YESTERDAY. I REALLY NEEDED TO SEE THAT
M keeps reeling C in and then throwing her back with this case. That’s not helping either.
MAMA I agree. I think that G is [raying deep inside like we are that something happens tomorrow!
sorry.. Praying…
M kept telling her that she’d be home soon and before her birthday etc. At the same time evidence was coming in that kept proving otherwise. Due to that, C was playing basketball in the media because M has been playing with her mind, giving her hopes when M knows the truth. If Defense seems to think Caylee is alive, then why don’t they just bring her home. Because they know she’s not alive. If M doesn’t want to prison for murder, then why don’t she just tell them, hey so and so has her, go get her. Because M knows what she did and she is enjoying the pain she is putting C & G through.
So does anyone think that G’s millionaire brother in law was the “private individual” that posted the bond the second time?
Bump,
A while ago you asked what critters I have.
I have cats and cats and cats. Inside tame ones and feral outside ones. Always busy making sure any new feral/stray in the neighborhood is spayed/neutered. Guess I am a crazy cat lady.
Felines are one of nature’s most perfect design IMO. The most perfect one are ofcourse little children.
snook,,,I would be sleepin in her little bed…smelling the sheets and her clothes…i would leave the teddy on the floor and the crayons under the bed…I wouldn’t even wash any of her dirty clothes…it would kill me. So who are we to judge really! If I look at their situation and put myself in it…this is hard to even imagine and type let alone live!
IS TOMORROW. AT LAST. IT IS FINALLY HERE. WHEW. WE THOUGHT TIME WOULD NEVER HURRY UP. AND HERE WE ARE
CA-Now you know how I’m feeling now that I tried to put myself in her shoes.
YESSS!!! November 8th is closing in!!!
HMMMMMM DIDNT KNOW G HAD RICH BROTHER
MAMA, I bet G is in the doghouse today after the transcripts came out!!! Poor G!!
I’m done past the bond thing.
Anita..i am thinking g is praying they find caylee too…after all…she needs to be found..the end…period..they aren’t gonna find her in p-rico…they can at least stop the circus and not knowing where she is has to be hell..
This whole thing needs to end this weekend…so baby can have the biggest most proper burial for a little princess…she deserves at least that…M can rot in jail and C and G can start the healing whatever way they can.
MAMa, g states in the interview that his sister is married to very rich guy. And his sister “should be landing at the airport now” whatever day the interview was on. she was coming into town because of what was going on and G mentions that perhaps he will help with $$
I AGREE WID U ALL
Okay, let me settle this!
Part of me feels sympathy for C because she’s lost her beloved granddaughter and probably feels very responsible- that she was either blind to M’s potential for truly horrible acts - or for not doing the right things to prevent that.
Another part of me wants to rip C apart for her bahaviour since Day 1!
So I’ll sit here and argue with myself about it! LOL! I wonder if I can agree to disagree with me!???
Hi guys
I feel like there’s two kinds of love we have for our kids. The sweet, snuggly kind we have when they are little and it’s all affection and unconditional love and tenderness. C might have had that for both M and Caylee. And I think that’s where we draw our empathy from. How they are physically missed when they are so innocent and pure and add so much joy to our lives.
But we all have to graduate into a more mature kind of love, that isn’t always so pleasant because it sacrifices being fun and popular and even affenctionate sometimes as it teaches our children to be independent and accountable for their actions. We have to risk other people looking at our kids as imperfect so that we can help them admit and work on their faults. To help them grow consciences so we don’t send them out into the world thinking the are the centers of the universe and acting spoiled and selfish. Anyone who has had a teenager already misses and is lonely for the cute little person they used to be most of the time.
I don’t think C was capable of that. Perhaps she looked at M as an extension of herself - she was very controlling apparently, and wanted her child to receive accolades for things even if she did not earn them - she was termed a helicopter parent by more than one person I believe.
While she constantly derailed her daughter in front of others for being unfit and a thief, she is angry in public that we will not buy the obvious later fabrication M was a good and loving mother.
She goes beyond simple denial - she is actually angry that people should doubt her and disagree that her version is true regardless of how implausible or contradictory. And that’s where she loses our sympathy I think. Because it reflects more about her and her daughter and how they’d like to be seen by the world after this tragedy than what she knows has happened to that little baby and how important it is to honor her memory.
If she had truly believed Caylee was alive she would not have gone into overdrive trying to cover up evidence. She would have preserved it all to give LE something to help them find that baby.
It seems to me that she gave those same skills to her daughter - who more calmly asserts she feels entitled to be believed regardless of the facts. We can have sympathy for how she might feel inside but it evaporates when we see how cruel she has been to others who also feel for her child regardless of what happened.
mtc you’ll lose to yourself I’m sure lol
For me it has been hard to chew on since yesterday but besides c cleanin that car and killr stashin the body in there yard unknown to them they really are victems in all of this…and I dunt think c really kno’s how to act or deal with the whole thing..her daughter is a murderer her granddaughter who was really like her own child is dead and she had a hand in cleanin her out of a car trunk…I doubt c will ever recover from this wether she is guilty of a crime or worthy of sympathy in all actuality she is a victem also..having to come to terms with raising a killr and losing a child is alot that I have no experiance with and I hope to never go thru…losing a child..no thank you!!!
HMMM NITA. THANKS. I HAVEN’T READ ALL OF G’s INTERVIEW. HIS IS THE ONLY ONE I WANTED TO READ. I DID LIKE IT WHEN HE SAID HE HAS TRIED TO PUT HIS HAND OVER C’s MOUTH. HE AINT CRAZY AT LEAST.
For what little its worth, I agree with those who have sympathy for C. This case put us all on an emotional rollercoaster ride. Although there are times that I don’t agree with C’s comments or actions, I also realize that I have not walked in her shoes. The bottom line is that C did not kill Caylee. As far a C being a good mother and grandmother, I can only say that we love and raise our children in the best way that we know how, I’m sure that C did too. Did C make mistakes along the way? Of course she did, can anyone here look back and say they never made a mistake while raising their children?
Now, as far as C deliberately washing M’s slacks to hide evidence, I think she simply did that because C’s a cleaning fanatic. You can just look at C and G and see how clean and neat they keep themselves as well as their home. Both my daughter’s are like that and can not stand to see a speck of dirt.
Okay… should I duck because of the flinging tomatoes? LOL
C~A , I agree. The interviews shows alot more of the thoughts that were happening between C and G during this awful time.
G even states that one of his sisters he thinks has mental illness and nders if it could skip a generation to M. He says that in the interview.
HEYYYYYYYYY BEANS………….
I have sympathy for the fact that she raisd a killr and that she lost a child…I can have sympathy cus its hard to deal with Im sure…but her actions are questionable and I think she shuld have to answer for them..but I am sympathetic towards g and her.simply cus killr is a baaaad person who stole sumthing irreplacable from them …
Cecy sapponin shout out to the windy city!!!
MAMA I laughed when I read that one LOL.
He put his hands over hermouth to shut her up! LOL
MTC…I agree with you..it’s been one roller coaster ride of emotions based on peoples actions..one minute I am pissed to high heaven at c and next minute, I feel her pain..as a mother..if one of my children were missing I wouldn’t be able to function…I think we all are riding the same ride…back and forth up and down…in the end.. and underlying is our love for caylee and our anger as to why this had to happen…we all want someone to blame but the real one to blame here is rotting in jail where she belongs…as we speak. and is where she needs to stay for a very very long time
I gotta say, this is another one of those things about this case that I JUST DON’T GET. I have kids of my own, and I adore them, but I could not pull a Cindy for the life of me and stick by them and lie for them through all of this. Casey has cost them too much.
I read somewhere that G did not keep close contact with his side of the family. C did with her side of the family.
G parents live in Fla too I believe.
Did they get any bucks from rich B/I/L for M. Doubt it. They did not get any help when they lost their house in Ohio or when they went thru recent bankrupty in FLA.
WELL PUT BEANS. THANK YOU SO MUCH
Naww see as a mother if one of muh kids wus missing I would grab muh 45/70 govt. rifle and go on the hunt..no questions askd no hesitation…kick ass ask names later…I wuldnt even think about not functioning there is nothing in this world that wuld keep me in my home sitting by the phone…nope not here..I wuld come unglued and be out searching I wuld save the lack of functioning after I found muh child and F~~~ someone up..for even havn the bawls to take one of muh kids…for real they better hope they are behind a bullet proof wall cus im a comn and I have muh rifle(s) in tow…nothing wuld keep me at home waiting…Id go out and do for myself…
Dood if I killd my kid(s) my mom wuld be the first to turn my stank butt in and have me arrestd she wuld thro my butt straight under a steam rollr…
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Hi mama! Hey BOP! Et Al!!!
DJones - I know that’s the big difference all of us here have I think. As much as we love our kids, we could not lie or cover up for them, espcially if they hurt another human being in such a terrible way.
There was just no real tough love with C. She’d scream and yell and hold things over M’s head, but in the end wipe her rear and fix everything. No wonder M was stupid enough to think she could get away with murder. she had been for a long time.
I think that letting her rob other people of money was paving the way to letting her rob someone of their life. There wasn’t much difference to M.
Maybe C was covering up because she felt it was her fault this all happened because she didn’t move fast enough to get custody. Just my opinion.
More than 3000 volunteers from 30 different states are descending on the Orlando area this weekend for a massive search for missing toddler Caylee Anthony.
They are coming to find our baby and bring her home.
Thats where I think g and c are lack there of…I mean nothing wuld keep me at home…nothing yud have to hog tie me to keep me from searching for my child…thats whut I dunt get…alive or not why didnt they search..all those tips and not one trip out to follow up on em..they just sit around readin the internet…thats what is strange to me…but I am a diff breed of person who wuld not sit idly by while investigators and searchers and amber alerts sounded Id be out hunting…no doubt about that…
ME EITHER JD. WE JUST ALL AINT MADE ALIKE THO.
Bump, I like you! No-nonsense, straight to the point, you said “ask names later.” Only thing they may need a name for would be to carve on a chunk of stone!
Gumshoe…whats up???
Flash for real I aint messin around..
snooks - I agree. G seemed pissed that he couldn’t even get his sister to get up early enough to look for Caylee (even though he knew it was a lost cause). I doubt he went to his b/i/l for that kind of money.
He had to play along with C’s wild goose chases but he even implies to LE he thinks they are based on total b.s. and that she does too but is furious this is making her look bad. He’d probably say, if you want to bail her out go ask your own brothers for money.
Hey, Bump…I don’t think you are a different breed of person in this scenario…I think we all would be hitting the streets trying to find our loved ones…I think…in this case… the different breed of people would be the ants…
Cecy,
G has two sisters one that wouldn;t get up and the other one that is married to the rich guy that was flying in the day of the onterview to orlando.
HEY FLASH JD AND GUMS
ITS NEARLY HERE GUMS…………
Cecy,
That’s what I mean, it’s like Cindy is still trying to clean up Casey’s mess. It’s like she doesn’t see that this isn’t stealing money, or freeloading, this is her daughter murdering her own child, and it’s time Casey paid the piper.
Oh - thanks Anita. I didn’t know the other one was the rich one. I don’t remember if he was close to them or not - do you think they would have sprung for $25K for half the bail?
hey bump==
I am overwhelmed with grief today–a foreboding grief–because of the search. My heart is very heavy, waiting for the news that she has been lovingly brought home to us.
On my way to dr. appt with G/S. Think it’s strep (he’s a carrier so has it often)
BBL to check in.
HEY BEYES. DAM I CANT CATCH UP HERE
Hello all,
I am going to start posting simple little prayers as often as I can to pray about the search that starts tomorrow. I hope you will all join in the prayers so that as many of us as can will be praying for Caylee. Prayers are answered everyday.
Side note I think we see a bit of insight into what they must have been going through and I (maybe want) to believe that when you are faced with a horrible situation your mind chooses one of two ways to go. One you face it head on and deal with it, or two you split from reality and do everything in your power to stay in your own reality. One thing I found interesting that G says is that when he gets home from the impound yard with the car. C says ” what died in their” Then she asks him ” it was the Pizza right” Although G has different thoughts he agree with her that it was the pizza. Remember this conversation took place prior to their knowledge that Caylee is actually missing. As a parent you might know your daughter is punishing you by not letting you see your grandchild… but you don’t believe something could happen to her and she would just NOT tell you. I am like most of you I DON”T understand anything that C has done, but I can imagine that living with M could drive a person crazy. It is easy for all of us to look back and say she did this wrong or that, but I know from experience as a parent I haven’t always seen at the time what a choice I made now would cause in the future. This is just an opinion so don’t all start throwing tomatoes.
Amazing! All these hardworking people taking off from their jobs and everything while dumba$$ sits up in there knowing damn well exactly where and what happened. Am the softest hearted person you’d ever meet but like Bump, enough-is-enough and I’d have her out there, leg irons and all, scavenging the woods right along with the search team. After a few hours and threats, she’d decide she’d be better off telling the truth. Should she be stupid enough to try to run, all I can say is, she had better be right with Jesus!
PAW69! LOL! Whaddya mean? I can’t be beat!! (But which “I”?)
I guess I can argue with myself about THAT now! Well, at least it will be a change of topic.
cecybeans said “I think that letting her rob other people of money was paving the way to letting her rob someone of their life. There wasn’t much difference to M.”
What a profound statement, it actually stopped me in my tracks and made me think and you are absolutely right. It’s not only about C but other parents who raise their children and look the other way when they steal and move on to other crimes. For example, the person who killed Jennifer Hudson’s family.
beans my understanding is that they used equity in house for collateral for bond.
Hi, MAMA…how are you doing today??
BYE GUMS…………
Yah c is still tryn to clean up after killr and its gunna put her in an early grave c must feel partially responsible for this…in her upbringn of killr or her lack of discipline but somewhere she has made herself guilty of Caylees death and she feels she mush fix this for her own peace of mind “I can fix this,I can do it…”
Good luck Gumshoe..we will pray for yur baby…strep is no bueno no bueno at all!!!
m2c…I know exactly what you mean…being tugged in opposite directions in regards to G and C…it makes my head spin!!
HE-HE BEYES. JUST TRYIN TO CATCH UP HERE. LOOKS LIKE I AM MAKING SOME HEAD-WAY.
Dear Heavenly Father we come to you simply to ask for your help, encouragement, and leading of everyone as they prepare for the search for Caylee. Help the searchers to be strong enough to carry out the task before them. Give them the wisdom to know where and how to search, so that not only do they find our beautiful Caylee Marie Anthony, but they preserve any evidence so that justice can be found for Caylee. We pray for the family because no matter, what this will be hard for them, and we pray for all the people around the world who have fallen in love with Caylee and are waiting and praying for her to be found. All these things we pray in Jesus Name. AMEN
Anita,
The sister flying in went probably to see her parents, not G her brother.
DJ - I could not agree more - C is beyond denial, she’s into Disneyland mode. If she has any guilt, it would stretch all the way back to M’s childhood, cuz this is a pattern that didn’t start recently. And, in some ways, insisting your child is perfect and can do no wrong, being completely blind to their faults, is a sort of sense of entitlement in its own way. Like, no matter what my child has done, it isn’t really that bad, she’s really good, because otherwise I’m not the perfect mom and of course I am. A trait she has obviously either passed along or helped nurture in M.
cfc - I thought that too about putting up house for bond. However their house is not worth half a million (or they don’t have that much equity in it anyway). What they did was put up a “promissory note” kind of thing after the two bond companies sprang for the bail. Very fishy/funny way of going about it and I haven’t figured it all out yet. But they did not get her bond by themselves is what I believe the bottom line is.
Concernd4Caylee hey no tomaters her rhymes with mayter tamayter…
thats just qute..I have sympathy for c and g now…tho c’s words and actions are not fathomable in my mind they are living a nightmare..she cleand her dead child (grandchild) out of a car…well her stain (sorry) and has to face the facts that her daughter did it…its un imaginable to me how she and g feel and I now I mean I just feeel sorry for them…tho she is crazy…cmon..shes crazy but I wuld be to…crazy with a 45/70 govt..rifle all over town.. 
Snookers, May she was going to see parents. Not sure but G knew she was coming in.
but to get half a million in bond you only put up 10% which is 50,000. that is all the cash they had to have.
MTC, LMAO, when you start losing to yourself, you may want to go see the doctor. And if you start yelling at yourself and still lose, I have a psych number you can call. lmao
MMT, my sis, a retired teacher, took in 56 kids over 20 years, and I’ve heard it all. She, like all the other foster parents, have such wonderful intentions, but often find themselves in over their heads with the problems involved. She just signed up for 4 more kids.
concernedforcaylee said “my understanding is that they used equity in house for collateral for bond.”
Hi CFC, I think that is a lot of BS that the lawyers dreamed up to cover the fact that C & G received money for their interviews, oh excuse me rights to their pictures and story.
They filed bankruptcy not that long ago and a person can not have that much equity in their home and still file for the bankruptcy protection act.
BEI - I hoped to help the folks who are on totally opposite sides by offering to just let me argue with myself about it (so they don’t have to “argue” with each other!) and I’ll let everyone know how it turns out!
So far I can’t get myself past agreeing to disagree with me. But I’ll keep trying!
M2C,
Gosh, you will provide Jan with a big dilemma.
When you start arguing with your self , it will be hard for Jan to ban half of you LOL.
God, you created Caylee Marie Anthony. You knew her in the womb. We know that You have a rocking chair and are holding her now, but we need her earthly remains brought home for acknowlegement of her short life, and for proper burial, according to Your word and Your will.
We are so very sad that one of Your babies has been betrayed and hurt. Let her little short life and death be forever engraved on our hearts, and let it move us to change whatever laws or standards need to be changed for the reckless abuse of children to stop.
You said “Suffer the little children to come unot me, for such is the kingdom of heaven.” Show us how to honor, protect, and glorify that kingdom in which Your children dwell.
Give strength, good health, and guidance to the searchers.
Thank You for our blogger family brought together by Caylee.
In Jesus Name,
Amen
HEYYYYYY C4C. I B PRAYING WID U………..
PAW69 - Thank you! One of me made a note of your post for future reference. I’m not sure the other me will be allowed to borrow it though!
mtc will then just be 1c lmao
AMEN
THANKS C4C
Here’s what I really meant.
When Cindy made that phone call in July, the one about the ‘dead body in the damn car’ she sounded genuinely upset. Ever since then, she’s been backpeddling, evading, and flat out lying, all to try and cover for Casey. She clearly knows Casey’s guilty of murdering Caylee. It seems like a terrible injustice, to continue to defend the murderer when the real victim was her defenseless toddler granddaughter. What compels her to think she owes Casey anything else?
wtg gum
FOr the record I don’t believe C & G filed for Bancruptcy. The link I am putting on here takes you to Orange county records and you can search all the civil cases on them and there are only Four on G. I will go and double check C. but these are official reocrds not mine, or media, you can search anyone who lives in Fla. yOu can also search criminals too.
http://www.myorangeclerk.com/myclerk/CivilSelect.aspx?SessionID=baf6113c-c71d-4821-acae-a9a7d34efabb
D Jones, It guilt, She feels guilty that Casey did this. She also feels guilty because she didn’t go get custody before this happened. IMO
MAMA - we sure move fast in here…huh?
Amen - and a special prayer for Sharon as well…
AMEN
THANK YOU GUMS. YA’LL BE MAKIN ME CRY HERE
val said “my sis, a retired teacher, took in 56 kids over 20 years, and I’ve heard it all. She, like all the other foster parents, have such wonderful intentions, but often find themselves in over their heads with the problems involved. She just signed up for 4 more kids.”
Val, I swear your comment brought a chill over me and tears to my eyes. You sister is an angle and please tell her thank you from me! I can’t stop the tears from flowing. I copied your comment to show to my son. If any parent finds it difficult raising children, they should see what it’s like being a foster parent. Your sister is totally amazing and a wonderful human being. God bless her and her family!
I did go check under C name as well and there is no bnacrupty issue on record.
D Jones
C is also a realist. Caylee is dead but M is alive.
It’s already killing C that Caylee is dead, What do you think it will do to her when M get’s the needle. That is still her granddaughter and daughter no matter what happened.
bbl I have an appointmet in 25 minutes so I need to scoot. Hey Mama if you think about it keep reposting the prayers (gums too) maybe every hour or so and then people who don’t go all the way back can still be included. I will post again when I get back. Luv and hugs to all.
c4c - thanks again for the prayers - we need to keep them coming for sharon, Tim, Paddy and everyone. I know we are all sitting here at the edge of our seats and will be until this is over!
No tomatoes ever darlin’! I think we all help add angles and perspectives and glimpses of our own that flesh this out and help us make sense of things. We each bring a unique view and I love to gather them all together like little pieces of a puzzle to form a greater and richer whole picture as we strive to understand this.
This is difficult to fathom - all of it - and I think we see that it did not happen in a vacuum, although it’s easy to think that if we take things out of context. And we all feel conflicting things throughout.
I have lived with a child who turned out to be every bit as difficult as M for a time, and it took all of my courage and stamina to do what I knew was right. There are many of us here that have had to fight that battle and know how hard it is and how much you daily question your judgment, your sanity and everything else.
I have empathy for C and G and what they went through, but it’s hard for me to be truly sympathetic to C because she is still refusing to see how her enabling endangered the life of that child. If nothing else, she stands as an example to grandparents everywhere that, as much as you might love your kids and want them to be perfect, if you think for a moment they are endagering others you have got to act.
and, if for some reason, you are too late to prevent something terrible, for god’s sake don’t run around blaming other innocent victims, like the public who have cried and worried for that little girl even though she was not their own.
Thanks m2c - we don’t often see murder as the ultimate crime of theft but in so many ways it is.
Bye C4C
concernedforcaylee said “I did go check under C name as well and there is no bnacrupty issue on record.”
Wow… I’m shocked since the bankrupcty had been reported so many times. But, still why didn’t C get a Home Equity Loan to pay her parents back the money M stole from them? It was reported that C borrowed from her 401K. Do you think that maybe that was incorrect as well? Hmmmmmm?
AMEN!!!
The needle part I can understand; I wouldn’t want my kid to get the death penalty either.
It’s time to can the guilt, though. Casey is an adult and made her own decisions; I wouldn’t continue to cover for her, were she mine.
Thank you, MMT, I too find her pretty amazing
D Jones, you and I wouldn’t continue to do that. But in C’s eyes, she must feel that she has to for whatever reason.
gums - that was beautiful! amen!
DJ - you put it perfectly. whatever we may allow ourselves to feel one way or another, it doesn’t make C’s behavior acceptable (or possibly legal) in any way, shape or form.
PAW,
Prayer to your hubby as he goes to Iraq.
WELL SAID:
cecybeans said,in November 7th, 2008 at 2:24 pm
D Jones,
Maybe, maybe C would have acted different if FLA had no death penalty.
Cecy and DJ,
You are correct. g even tells in the interview that he told C she needs to watch it because things se was doing was not making sense and could come back to bite her and be seen as against the law.
PAW, what doesyour hubby do in army?
BBL, I gotta take care of my monkey. Nice chattin’ with you all.
m2c - you think that’s new?? Shoot…I’ve been disagreeing w/ myself for a while now…starting to wonder if I have split personalities…LOL
val - I don’t know how your sis does it… I was a foster mother to a troubled teen with my ex-fiance…He was an older boy…who just went wild…and we had to have the police bring him in…and he proceeded to tell them that I had abused him…dcfs said they were going to have to interrogate me…well…they started talking to Tyler about me…asked him to describe a day…he called me Mom, and told them about me waking him up b4 we left for work to kiss him goodbye…how I also made sure he had snacks when he got home from school…how I got home from work…and did laundry and cooked dinner for the family…and helped him w/ his homework…needless to say…they never even questioned me…and invited me to become a bigger part of their group…I declined… that experience hurt a little too much…
BYE DJ
Have to go too.
BBL
BYE SNOOKS. ME 2 0UTTA HERE. LATERS E1
(((((HUGGS)))))
Bye MAMA
Bye SNooks
MMT - been looking through my files but I can’t seem to find where I saw bankruptcy stuff. May have been in Warren or Niles, OH when they lost the house up there. did find this:
Cindy bought the house in 1989 in her name only, in 1999 Cindy AND George borrowed $25,000 against the house. In 2005 Cindy got a loan or line of credit, principal amount of $121,160, against the house. The house is still only in Cindy’s name.
Someone else posted somewhere to look in the Trumbull County Recorder of Deeds public records (OH I believe). Cindy is using the names:
Cindy Anthony
Cynthia Anthony
Cindy Pleasea (and Plesea)
Cynthia Pleasea (and Plesea)
George A. Anthony and “Lee Anthony” in addition to Cindy Anthony are written on one deed–when Lee was 7 in 1990. Different Lee?
this person also found G. had two injury suits against former employers.
sounds to me like the Ants knew how to work the system.
Also, I thought the second bond posted for $500K was split into 2 of $250K each and that one of them was done by a local bondsmand (on the coattails of Paddy’s withdrawal) and the other was put up by that “private source”.
bye mama and all! see you later - we always seem to gather for the magic NG hour!
hey I am back again, not sure what is correct and what is not. I am not sure we ever heard official how much money was stolen from the grandma. Taking it from a 401k would mean you dont have to pay it back. Using collateral like that is not a big deal unless m is a no show then they would have lost the house. Did they file I don’t know I just try and follow what I can prove. If they filed for banckruptcySP before moving to FLa, that wouldn’t have affected this house? Maybe that is the truth
PAW69 yur hubby is goin to Iraq??? Well let me THANK YOU for your husbands service to our country and for our lives and plain ol freedom…my brother just returnd from Iraq and he is home safe and sound in one piece physically and mentally we in our family are happy and proud to have lovd ones who have servd our country…Thank You PAW69’s hubby..you are truelly a blessing and an asset to our nation..I dunt care who or how ppl feel about the war(s) we are involvd in for someone to get up and go face giants in an unknown land is brave and commendable..GOD BLESS YOUR FAMILY……like I use to pray everynite for my little brother may God protect your husband with a legion of angels at all times!! Oh that brings tears to muh eyes…I love our country and our service men and women…they do a chore that I by no means have the gumsion to volunteer for…I believe we need to better care for our returning service men and woman..we need to put them first and formost b4 anything else pertaining to these wars…GOD BLESS YOU!!!
l8drs Cecy…have a good one..
Aww PAW69 that makes me cry..I have the upmost respect for our soldiers..regardless of the right and wrongs of these wars…I hate that our men and woman come home abandond and alone..I hate that as a country we have forgottn them…my brother is soo lucky to of come home welcomed back to my mother and fathers house and given a job right away..so many soldiers are forgotten and shovd aside with inadiquete health care inadiquete counseling just treatd soo pourly….It just kills me the way they are treatd brushd off…
I don’t think C is covering for m out of guilt. I think she has to say she is innocent or C has to admit that Caylee is dead. I think all her protection is just to convince herself there is a live Caylee. If I am right (I hope I am0 then after they find Caylee in the days following we are going to see a very different C. Now she may still not want death penalty for her child, but I don’t believe she will still say she is innocent. I want to believe that M is the sociopath and that not whole families are all whacked out. I pray that is the case, it is far easier to except that one person is that horrible rather than whole families are like that. Hope this makes sense, it is overwhelming to me that anyone be this crazy, let alone whole families…. It would make me question everyone I know, including myself.
Special THANK YOU to families of bump and paw. You and your families are apprecaited.
Sorry was AFK. Thank you and please pray for us and him. He’s a 94F misc. systems repairer.
It brings tears to muh eyes..the sleepless nights while muh little brother was far far away…nothing ever prepares you for that…nothing..I use to hide from the news channels..uhhh
I to agree with that Concernd4Caylee if not out of guilt then so that she doesnt have to admit Caylee is dead wich then she doesnt have to admit killr is a killr…it makes total sense who wuld want to admit yur grandchild was murdered by your very own child you wuld want to think you nurturd and raisd your own child better than that…I sure wuldnt deal to well with it…
Bump I agree aout PAW
My son is a nurse in the army
Aww PAW69 God bless you and yur family…its soo hard…the unkown of it all..my brother had nooo communication with us and that wus the hardest part..ughhh…its otay…
pheww change of brain wave…once I get to thinkn about our soldiers its hard to stop …they deserve better…
I think c is in need of hugs very soon shes gonna need sedatives and a straight jacket…as horrible as that is!!!
PAW - our hearts and thoughts are with your hubby. I know it’s not easy to be here when they are there. My daughter and her husband just returned from their second tour there. We’ll keep you all in our prayers.
cecybeans said,in November 7th, 2008 at 2:53 pm
Also, I thought the second bond posted for $500K was split into 2 of $250K each and that one of them was done by a local bondsmand (on the coattails of Paddy’s withdrawal) and the other was put up by that “private source”.
That is why i wondered if G’s sister/brotherinlaw was the “source”
I cant stop the tears now….I wus a wreck while my brother was in Iraq…no one understood they all said oh he’ll be fine hes a Marine..blah blah blah…it never made me stop stressing…
Bump, I knw the feeling however my son tld me I should be happier if he went to Iraq rather than Afghanistan
bump…c just needs to find maggots stash of sedatives…and I would also be out searchin with gun …I wouldn’t stop until I found my child and “then some”..
I still cant believe they bonded her out in the beginning..are they deff do they watch tv are they illiterate can they read I mean hello she had nothing to do with finding her daughter then when Paddy got her out she kickd him out of her house that there says alot to me…”hey lets talk about Caylee now” “Get out of my house.” UH DUH!!
omg Pickle, I am so glad my parents are moving here to help me. Before hubby joined, we were together ALWAYS. I’m scared to death of everything. I know with my parents being here it will help my kids. But me on the other hand, I freaked out when I didn’t hear from him in BCT. He called like 4 times and I only got a handful of letter. I wrote him a book every single day and sent them every single day.
But anyways, this is getting away from Caylee.
I don’t want to sound rude or anything, but I don’t want this blog to change to other topics for too long of a time. My heart is too into Caylee, I’ll deal with me and my family when the time comes.
I don’t know if we’re allowed to put our e-mails or yahoo names in here. Otherwise I’d talk about my stuff there, while talking about Caylee here.
If any of that sounded rude, I apologize.
Caylee~angel now yur talkn my style..maybe c is afraid killr got her sedatives outta her med cabinet…xanax is for anxiety…but prescribd in lower doses as a sleeping aid…and I wish we knew what c was on b4 Caylees murder..it might xplain alot but bein a party hog im sure killr had pills on tap from friends..
c4c - I’m not sure but I think that the money M stole from grandfather’s account was $300+ - and she used a birthday check she had received to get into it. I think M was planning on using that for the PR ticket and was busted the night of the big blowup on 6-15.
I had heard earlier that M forged a credit card account in G’s name and racked up between $12-15K in charges (not sure of time frame). I think that’s when C used her 401K to pay it off.
this is all secondary source stuff, but I’ve seen it corroborated in various places so it might be true.
Cecey, I think G talks about the bankruptcy in his interview.
Of course M kicked him out of the house. Talking about Caylee would mean the spot light isn’t on her anymore, and she couldn’t let that happen.
PAW - don’t worry about being personal if you need to - you are with friends. The good part is that you have a close support network with family - and the army provides all kinds of help and support to spouses and children. You are in good hands.
BOP - I understand so well. She is my only daughter and it was like having my kid on a milk carton at times. We worry when they are out on a playground, much less a battleground.
The second tour she was in a hospital for several weeks and even though she was on morphine and no food, the only thing she could talk about was her little baby girl back home and how much she missed her.
Which is why it’s so hard for me to think of how callous and cold M is about her own child.
No PAW69 Jan has made it purrfectly clear it is natural to veer off topic from time to time…its ok I for one will have no one tell me whut I can and cant talk about on here…we are a family of friends and it is HUGE your husband is going off to fight giants in a unknown land you are remaining at home alone…its a HUGE thing to deal with and I AM ALWAYS HERE FOR YOU..REGARDLESS IF IT IS OFF THE TOPIC..NO MATTER WHAT.. its hard..my brother only ate once a day in Iraq he got one meal a day it was hard to bare knowing what he told me when he got home…I AM HERE TO TALK TO IF YOU EVER NEED IT..we can have personal conversations as long as we alway get back on track some ppl on here dont like it but I emaild Jan and she told me its OK!! I still have the email just incase someone gets pissie about personal conversations..
Cecy,
did your daughter get injured while over serving?
your right beans there are many sources out there and some are very good, and others start as rumors and then are picked up and we never know what is true. My one thought is that WHEN they find Caylee we will see a bunch of truths then. I know that some of the private interviews with G show a different side then the public G. I think they bailed her out thinking she would take them to Caylee. I agreed with the earlier post regardless of what mistakes C & G made she was an adult who made her own choices ultimately she alone is to blame. If C was so bad she could have moved out she was more than old enough. No one will convince me that she is the victim because the way she speaks to either of her parents, bro or even friends comes off like she is afraid. SHe comes off like one who knows the power that she has. Also the statement that she posted on her myspace. With Power comes Awesome responsiblity. I think she knows she has power over C & G by using Caylee.
Bump you are too cool.
Nice shout to PAW
PAW69 I am here to talk to if you need a shulder..
christinastone78@hotmail.com
thats my email addy…feel free to email me anytime…I am here…
GREAT COMMENT C4C!
Could not have put it better or even come close if I said it myself!
Pickle, ty so much. I will really need someone to talk to when he leaves in August. He joined January 21st. We got to his PCS September 9th. This is still so new to us. Can I put my e-mail and yahoo in here?
Anita - thankfully, no, but she had an emergency gall bladder surgery in Quatar that they botched up but still sent her back to Bagdhad. She then got pancreatitis and her liver started failing so they flew her to Germany. It was pretty serious at the time but she’s fine now.
Dear Heavenly Father we want to take a minute and come to you and ask for your watch and care over all the men and women serving in the Armed Forces. They chose to serve their country and put aside their own personal safety. We also ask you to comfort their families as they wait in fear and pray for the safe return of their loved one. We als pray that you watch over them after they return home and try and put the images of war, pain, and death behind them. Lift each one up and let them know you are there. Also Lord give comfort to all the families who have sacrificed their loved ones in a tragic event.
Oh ya she held Caylee over there heads all day long…thats why they took on the role of parents to Caylee cus they knew she was unfit…they had Caylee 90% of her life..that left only 10% to killr they knew she was unfit and if she culd use Caylee she wuld in a heart beat…and she’ll use Caylee in death to for her own life to be spared…and she will use that power of Caylee over c and g forever..she had the power to end Caylees life and destroy c and g…
Mine is jan60960901@yahoo.com yahoo ID is jan600960901. Also have http://www.myspace.com/janmatus
PAW69 just post yur email addy and ill log it in to my email..contact list no one cares its ok !!!
hello to all:
proud,
not rude at all and yes you can put your email address in here. alot of us have hooked up with bloggers we’ve met in here an continue to chat thru email. The only problem you have with putting personal information about yourself in here is that there are weird people that come in here and have used that info to say hurtful things to others and get down right nasty. Not saying you can’t, just saying BE CAREFUL. Jan and Simon have had to intervene in these situations before.
It’s always nice to know some background with one’s screen name, it helps to put an understanding to their logic of thinking somtimes. Have you notice that some of the names in this blog are a different color? That is because they either have a link to their mypsace, facebook or some other page that you can go look at to see their face etc. Not sure if you knew that?
Cecy,
OMG! How awful! I am so happy there was not lingering after affects. Wow! What a strong little woman!
You know when I was in San Antonio for my son’s combat medic graduation there were so many young women graduating. Very petite little thangs!
He had a great friedn he had made during the course and I bet she didn’t weigh 100 lbs soaking wet. They talked about the average weight of a soldier is 150 lns so a test they had was to run out, put a weighted 150 lbd dead weight bag over their shoulders and run 1 mile. AND she did it. some of the guys didn;t graduate but my little cute girl did.
AMEN praise Jesus to protect them all..I love the prayers in here..cus now muh tears are a flowin…AMEN…
c4c, about the credit card and the bank account of the grandparents, that is the same information that I have heard as well so I think you are on track with your comment! And hello there!
PAW and Snooks: Yes. Maybe I’ll have to change my screen name to “my nickel” and then there’ll always be someone to break the tie!

No I didn’t know that. Thank you
PAW - the good part is that now they have myspace and facebook and email and cellphones and streaming video, so there are lots of ways to feel in touch and be close over the miles - not like the old days where you had to wait for mail.
And just recently the post office made little boxes you can send flat rate to any APO, which will save you money sending things.
My daughter used to send me lists of all the stuff they couldn’t get there that they missed most - sometimes it was funny stuff like fruit roll-ups and powdered drinks or scented candles. the PX’s over there don’t have a lot of variety and they miss certain things and certain brands from home. Just remember to put “toiletries” for everything on the Customs form. They don’t even let you say you’re sending food. Now who wouldn’t bake their baby some cookies? Get real!
Bump - Christina?? BEI - Christine!!!
Caylee is the only power that killr had to take advantage of…thats it in her pathetic life thats the only vessel she had to use for power over anyone…and she used it to full advantage..and she destroyd c and g’s life when she snuffd it out…she is no victem of anything except herself she killd her child and ruind millions of lifes in the way of it…the only way she is a victem is in her own skin..her own shell of a demon…
Browneyes joo be a Christine wow me too -e +a awesome!!!!
I’ll just call you m1c, mtc lmao.
Thank you for the info , I didn’t know that about the post office either.
I ordered the local newpaper for my little bro to Okinawa and the cool part was the Oregonian newspaper NEVER CHARGED me for it..for over a year he recievd the paper at no charge..now thats heart..I calld and askd about the bill and they said it was takn care of…I maild him a back scratcher while he was deployd to Iraq and he loved it..a chess board and playing cards…body wash they dig that stuff!!
Dollar tree does box orders for soldiers also!!!
Anita - I know! My daughter is tiny!! And she lost 30 lbs when she was sick, I didn’t know how she was going to do it, especially when they sent her right back after a couple weeks!
That’s right - I remember we talked earlier about your son - we need so many good medical people in the military. These kids deserve the best!
c4c - thanks for your prayers. some people don’t realize how hard it is for the families or for what they go through when they get back home and including them is really touching.
The only thing my DH ( dear husband) would want is computer stuff lol.
My brother said that he only ate one time a day and when he was hungry him & his company wuld shoot a rocket propelld granade thru a house door and eat the food in the cuboards..when he needed smokes they wuld do the same at a qwikie mart and just take the smokes and lighters and soda…If he culda calld I wulda maild that stuff duh…
c4c…..amen. Love your prayers as always!
Proud Army Wife…..I peeked (your myspace)….what a lovely couple you are! Nice myspace too!
I can tell we are all so anxious today waiting for the search to start tomorrow.
I’m thinking so much about sharon and what it will be like for her.
too bad we can’t send her crackberry emails while she’s in the field to cheer her on!
Oh no PAW69 once he gets there he will realize how much that country is lacking…seriously he doesnt kno how well he has it now…they eat sand all day long theres hardly nothing there for them make sure you send out care packages roudn the clock each week cus he says it now that he wuld only want puter stuff but once hes there..theres nothing..at all..no shampoo no soap..no nothing i mean im sure he can order stuff but theres nothing there…
Thank You very much. I put my heart and soul into everything I do, as you can tell on my myspace. Family is EVERYTHING to me.
they can buy things in Iraq from stores and stuff i believe but hes gonna love packages send one each week..they miss that stuff and order him the local paper wherever yah’ll are from..they love that…
Proud Army Wife, see how my name is different color than the others? If you click on my name, it will take you to myspace. I have it set to private but you can see my pic anyway. Just an fyi!
I don’t know if I can say what he’ll be doing there. But I’m not so sure his job is as easy as some have told me it will be.
Did that butt stains myspace really say she has power…I hate her the only power in life that she had wus thru her daughter and it wusnt even good power it wus weird sick freak power she used to destroy her familys life with…she is insane…seriously must be nice to have power from behind bars..she will never eat a steak again or have sex with a man…ahahahahaha
I always thought you were a mod due to the different color lol. But thank you for letting me know that.
Naww I dont think you shuld say what his job is…and it is not easy there..no war is easy…none of it..they say it is..my little bro said it was but its not…I think it takes a strong as nails person to go and do that to go to war..yud have to be to endure that kind of enviroment and situation…
lmao pickle. you have a sick sense of humor heheheh.
Browneyes, my sis has nerves of steel and each kid has a “clean slate” with her. Teens are the most difficult, so you did admirably.
Butt stain I calld killr a butt stain..
Yah I thought Dak was a moderator too then I clikd his name cus i hadda question and it was a damnd myspace link sh~~ far LeROy I was pissd!!
It’s not easy for us either. We did our Living Wills and stuff. I cried. I couldn’t believe I was filling all of that stuff out.
PAW - I looked at your page too and you have a lovely family.
Just look at us as your go-to girls for all things military!
I know there are a few places that ship to APOs (like drugstore.com) so he can order certain things himself if need be.
I could always tell when my daughter was feeling blue because all these packages would show up at the door addressed to her - with high heels and sparkly purses and stuff - she told me that it was retail therapy and even if she couldn’t wear it then it was fun looking at the pix and knowing she would get to open them when she was on leave!
BOP is right - you never know what you might have a craving for until you’re there.
One thing she loved was UnderArmor - cuz it kept her cool under her uniform when it got to like 120+ degrees. It gets pretty cold over there right now during the winter, I was surpised. She always like the fuzzy sox to wear in bed and keep her feet warm.
PAW,
What is your hubby’s rank?
PAW, Sorry hit send too early:)
I peeked too at your myspace and saw you are in GA. My son is stationed in Ga right now as well.
DH will be rank 3 (PFC) by January. We are at Ft. Stewart, but live off-post.
cecybeans said,in November 7th, 2008 at 3:53 pm PAW - I looked at your page too and you have a lovely family.
I could always tell when my daughter was feeling blue because all these packages would show up at the door addressed to her - with high heels and sparkly purses and stuff - she told me that it was retail therapy and even if she couldn’t wear it then it was fun looking at the pix and knowing she would get to open them when she was on leave
WOW How bittersweet! What a great way to make a positive out of a negative situation!! You raised an awesome daughter.
Does she wear her new shoes now?
PAW - that was the first tour. Second tour she was sending Disney Princess everything to the baby.
I know it’s really rough right now - don’t you worry you have lots of people who will hold you in their hearts and prayers every day. We are all here and won’t be going anywhere!
Lord,
I pray Caylee is found tomorrow. I also pray that you give Cindy and George the strength and courage to go and help search for Caylee. Amen
Anita - forgive me if you told me earlier, where is he in GA? Benning?
Thank you, I greatly appreciate it.
Dear Heavenly Father, Please help us to each stand firm and not act or speak in haste. Give us comfort as we wait for news of Caylee and the search. Please give special care and attention to each and everyone who has a hand in the search. Each of us can only imagine the horror that may await each of them. Please be with the family too, although we don’t always agree Lord we do recognize that the fate of Caylee will cause pain to all. Mostly Lord we just want to pray that we continue to hold the important one in this room up always. WE ARE ALL PART OF THE CAYLEE ANTHONY JUSTICE TEAM. All these things we pray in Jesus Name. AMEN
Hey I need to make a correction to sumthin I said earlier…there are ONLY TWO PEOPLE on this bloggr who can tell you whut you can and cannot say in here and that is JAN & SIMON
and we all hail Jan & Simon bringer of new blogs without them we would be a shapeless void with no vioce…we luv them!!
thank you proud.
cecybeans said,in November 7th, 2008 at 3:59 pm Anita - forgive me if you told me earlier, where is he in GA? Benning?
He is Augusta, GA at the hospital there.
cecybeans said,in November 7th, 2008 at 3:59 pm Anita - forgive me if you told me earlier, where is he in GA? Benning?
He is Augusta, GA working at the hospital there.
Awwwwwww Ft. Gordon. That’s where my DH did AIT.
Sorry for the dupe, but it told me I had a dup posting and sat there so I posted again. Sorry everyone!
PAW - my daughter won’t be too far away either. Come Jan she’ll be at Ft. Jackson where she did her BT - but this time as a drill sergeant (switching from MP). She is a fun combination of tough and motherly to her units (calls em her “kids”). I get a kick out of her - she was a wild child but now she’s Miss Strict - stay in line, kick ass take names lil thing. She’ll make her own daughter drop and give her 20 pushups I’ll bet if she ever gives her grief!
Hi Firends
Just wanted to stop in and say hi. I bet tomorrow can’t come fast enough for everyone.
DH also did BCT at Ft. Jackson lol.
Our kids’ punishment is PT. They HATE doing Iron Mikes too.
That’s right Augusta. It’s a pretty town!
thanks c4c - we’ll need those good prayers especially this weekend!
bbl it is time to pick up son from school and run errands, after that I will get back on maybe after NG not sure about timing.
They have been real good since we moved here. And son was way over weight. Weighed almost 150 lbs. Now he weighs almost 110 lbs. And the kids are being good. FINALLY.
Hey Cat! I think we are all gearing up for a nailbiting weekend of suspense.
I sure hope Tim and Paddy can make it happen so we can put this little baby to rest - she sure deserves it!
bye c4c - take care!
I think they are going to finally our little Caylee.
Is sharon from florida, is that why she went to help or did she fly from out of state? I would have loved to have gone to help. I’m too far away.
Sorry, left out the word “find” been so busy I am exhaused.
hey Cat! Been missing you on here!
I wish I could have gone. But funds is the ONLY reason I didn’t volunteer.
It’s ok Cat, I figured that’s what you meant.
CHSAH yes, how are you?
By Concernd4Caylee
Thanks, PAw It’s just one of those days.
Cat - is it supposed to be good weather there tomorrow?
Proud Army Wife & C4C…Amen. Nice prayers.
I think Sharon is from FL..I wish I culd go help to I mean crap I power walk 2-6 miles a day anyways mght as well put it to some good use…I always said God creatd me to be a mother and tuh walk…
Yes
Amen yes Amen..can I get a Amen..yes..
Good weather all next week too.
PAW, He likes Ft Gordon but he wants to go back to Ft Sam Houston. My daughter inlaw (his wife) and my gbaby are in TX living since my gbaby is under a year. They are living with her parents.
Not quite sure what my son’s official rank is but I think it is SPEC 1st Class. He told me he just finishing testing for Officer eligability. I am not up on the terms and dont undestand it all but he told me that just means he is eligible right now.
Really proud of him since he is only 22 years old!
Longest personal quote I will do I promise!
Perfect weather to find an angel.
Oh good - it will make things run more smoothly.
Did you see NG and Paddy turn Tom Thumb into a quivering mass of protoplasm last night? I was LMAO!
Oh Cat - that is so beautifully put!
Loved it, especially the Tom Thumb remark by Paddy.
Cat, I’m good. I’ve been “lurking” at times but tried not to make too many comments b/c once I get started, I’m addicted! lol. Always try to read your comments tho, you put it short and simple! Means we get more questions in to ask you! lol…
Count TT is a rude little man.
It was a classic! And NG had him bleeding out of orifices he never knew he had!
Wish I had all the answers. LOL
I liked Paddy just a sittin’ there a smilin! (heee…heeeee….) bet mamabear was melting! lol. Boy Nejame sure got a little hot under the collar didn’t he?? don’t think I’ve seen him raise his voice until last night……thought he was gonna have a stroke. Doesn’t he know not to take NG on????? LOL>
Count TT - love it! He did seem very petty. He did not choose his clients well for this one and it’s hard to live down.
You know I wouldn’t count the death penalty being off the table at the moment. I was doing some reading last night, and that decision hasn’t really been made 100%.
Well, with Count’s stuttering and BB’s wink-winking - they are all getting nervous facial tics from this family!
Cat, you might not have them all but you insight is sure almost always on.
There are alot of good bloggers on here, that’s why it is such a good blog!
NG wasn’t going to let count have the last word either!!! (heeee…heee…). I thought the boxing gloves were coming out!
He really does need some blush. I think he acts a little frilly.
Good - because I think the prosecution isn’t ruling out a violent death based on forensics of remains (and the defense sure doesn’t know anything for sure) which would be automatic. And even if they can’t do that - chloroform as probable cause of death is like assault with a deadly weapon.
If you’re cooking up your own from websites and there are all kinds of poison and danger disclaimers on them, then right there that’s attempted murder in my mind even if you pretend it’s sedation.
Cat, I agree about the DP not being taken off the table. Especially if they do find Caylee’s body in the area of the pings of M’s cell phone! Kind of like the Scott Peterson thing where her and connor’s body washed up on shore where he’d been seen “fishing”.
Thanks, CHSAH
Cecy. LOL
DID anyone notice that Paddy was trying his best not to laugh his a.. off when Count started in and they still had the three of them on the view. OMG! He kept covering his mouth like, Ok Count n ow you are in for it! She is gonna cut your wanker off! He was loving it! I had more fun watching Paddy’s expressions than anything else!
I think they are waiting to see what they come up with this weekend after the search and then they will probably decide.
I would be ordering extra panties from the commissary if I were M……she must be pooping her pants by now????
chsah - that’s true. NG was loaded for bear.
CAT - it looks like he gets his makeup done by a mortician. his face is so pale. i keep expecting to see him with a cape.
I just wondered why the possibility of whether the DP should stay on the table or not came up NOW. There’s plenty of time to decide that yet.
Anita - that was so cool with the triple split-screen wasn’t it? NG in the middle, blasting the Count on the right, who was blinking and stuttering and Paddy sitting on the left screen with his eyes twinkling looking like he’d bust out any minute.
Catherine said,in November 7th, 2008 at 4:20 pm Count TT is a rude little man.
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Hi Cat…that is so true…do you notice that last night and his first interview in his la-di-da shiny office that he will not let you interupt him but he can interupt you!!…he gets’ down right nasty…he is high on maggots chlorie…and on himself.
Paddy put the boots to him last night by making him look like a circus act…instead of making paddy mad which is what he wanted..too funny, sarcasm is a wonderful thing…
NG wouldn’t let him walk all over her, I knew she would tear him a new a-hole after his rude comment about her making money on baby caylee…
The prosecution is playing the wait and see game with BB, and and he knows it, that’s why he filed that motion for the check fraud case
delay. He wants M. to be tried as a first time offender for the murder 1 charge, so the jury will go easy on her.
Padilla has been on a mission ever since M treated him like she did.
DJ - I can’t help but think it’s just the two sides communicating in code, bargaining under the table so to speak, or showing goodwill. First move kinda thing maybe.
cecybeans said,in November 7th, 2008 at 4:33 pm Anita - that was so cool with the triple split-screen wasn’t it? NG in the middle, blasting the Count on the right, who was blinking and stuttering and Paddy sitting on the left screen with his eyes twinkling looking like he’d bust out any minute.
Cecy, That was the best part for me. Even my hubby who loves doesn’t stay as up to the case as I do, knows enough that he was laughing his butt off! We were so laughing and putting words into paddy’s mouth, My hubby was syaing.. Oh Crap now he did ot… and I was like, oh f… he went there too?? Paddy had great expressions!
paw…that was just what paddy bear needed to light a fire under his saddle…thank god this one time that m was rude…and didn’t talk…made our paddy bear weely mad…now he gonna find that baby for the world…that does not include maggott…
D. Jones, Just the defense trying to force the prosecution’s hand.
Paddy is all fool me once shame on me fool me twice uh no b~~ im findn that baby now hell or high water!!
Cecy,
That’s what my husband said.
PAW - you’re right! She screwed with the wrong dude on that one. And when C treated Tim Miller so badly, it made it even more personal for Paddy I think.
Everyone came out there for Caylee and to be slapped in the face by M and her mom was a stupid move on their parts.
Cecy, Paddy LOVED that split screen moment and HE DESERVED IT!! lol
OMG you guys are on a roll today. LOL
Hey CA how you doing?
ya, all the disrespect uncalled for but everything happens for a reason…now they are back with a VENGEANCE AND A VOW…
CAT how are you!
OMG NITA. I COULDNT WATCH ANYBODY BUT PADDY 2. THAT WAS SO FUNNY. ME PADDY KNEW THAT COUNT WAS STEPPIN RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE OFF COW-SHIT AND HE COULDNT WAIT FOR THE SMELL.
I”m AFK on and off, cooking T-Bone steaks (dinner) and brownies.
Cat…well everything in my life is upside down but I am so happy and anxious for 8am tomorrow…I think this blog will be hopping well before that…and nice post by the way…
perfect weather to find an angel! Awwwwwwww!How are you feeling?
Well you can’t have your cake and eat it too, Cindy.
You can’t be the suffering grieving grandma of a “kidnapped” child that you’ve sold out to the media and then slap people down because now they care but don’t want to hear a story built on lies that are so egregious and insane it’s an insult to their intelligence.
You aren’t the star, M’s not the star, the baby is!
Wait till that gag order goes into effect.
BB and C won’t be able to discuss the case without being in contempt of court. Get a cell ready for C. at the jail, because that woman will never keep her mouth shut.
I think we all agree that the NG + TT + Paddy moment was our favorite so far! One for the scrapbook.
It even beat out NG telling Kobe he should be embarrassed and I thought that was a good one!
CAT DIDNT GAG ALREADY TAKE?
Cat - LMAO! Or a roll of duct tape!
I know the feeling. I’m like you at the moment my world just got turned upside down, but with God’s help he’ll make it right again.
Mama - LMAO - you always know how to put it perfectly!
AT THE END IT WAS CUTE THE WAY NG WAS LOOKING AT PADDY. LIKE SHE WAS GIVING HIM THE “MOMENT” SO CUTE
Where is Mama?
Cindy reminds me of that story The Emperor’s New Clothes. Wonder when someone is gonna tell her the dude is nekkid?
It’s nice to see NG dedicating the whole hour to caylee again…she deserves it and tonight should be good!..I too loved the cavalyre look on paddy’s face..he was sitting back and laughing in tt’s face…he looked the cat that swwallowed the canary…like he knows the count can say whatever the hell he wants but paddy face said…blah blah, hey guess what I gonna find princess caylee this weekend…he seems very confident and not worried and perplexed like in the past…
There you are. How are you feeling?
AW BEANS. CANT HELP IT. IS WHAT GOES THRU ME BRAIN.
WHAT WERE THE WORDS NG SAID (I WAS LOL SO I DIDNT HEAR
U GO BRO OR SOMETHING LIKE THAT. WHAT WAS IT? IT AND I WATCHED IT 3 TIMES.)
Mama - yeah, NG kinda cut her eyes his way and smiled like “gotcha! we did good!”
last night on NG with the 3 of them on the screen all at once was a KODAK moment….
$3.00 for mints for Monster
$10.00 for brush, makeup, etc.
NG, Padilla, and Count on at the same time…priceless!
I hope M. chokes on those Pop Tarts she bought from the jail seven eleven. God forgive me.
CA - yeah, I’m glad she ditched the Jennifer Hudson stuff. I was so over it I was under it. Caylee is something we can hope for a decent resolution and justice.
I was waiting for Padilla to say….
“I stayed at a Holiday Inn……” LOL…
cat…God told me to tell you that you are indeed forgiven…
CHSAH. LMAO
Padilla was trying so hard not to bust a gut. lol
U ALL ARE SO FUNNY AND CUTE. AND A BUNCH OF OTHER STUFF. LMFFAO
Cat - I’m sorry but you’re right. It makes me sick to even think she is eating food right now much less anything with icing on it.
beans…The whole Jennifer thing is such a tragic thing…but I am so hooked on caylee that any other case takes a back seat …