The Conservatives did not gain the seats they wanted in Quebec, and Gilless Duceppe is already speaking out Quebec demands from Ottawa. “I am open to all proposals, which I will judge on the basis of Quebec’s interests,” he said before also saying he would demand another $820 MILLION dollars on TOP if the annual transfers Quebec already receives. The province of Quebec already gets equalization payments.
Quote :Federal transfer program that allows all provinces, regardless of their ability to raise revenue, to provide roughly comparable levels of services at roughly comparable levels of taxation. Eligibility to receive equalization funding is determined by a formula measuring each province’s revenue-raising capacity against a five-province standard. Currently, eight provinces receive equalization: Newfoundland, Prince Edward Island, Nova Scotia, New Brunswick, Quebec, Manitoba, Saskatchewan and British Columbia.
From the CTV website, “Based on its population, Quebec will get $919 million of that amount, just shy of one-third of the transfers allocated to the provinces in Finance Minister Jim Flaherty’s Budget 2007″. That amount is roughly 1/3 of the TOTAL amunt of money for transfers, just for Quebec. And there are, how many provinces? The figures for 2008 have, so far, been difficult to find but I see no reason for that number to have declined. If anything it has increased. Last year the figure was set at $16 BILLION over 3 years. When the Bloc learned of this they had this to say, “The Bloc and Parti Québécois vowed yesterday to use the billions in new federal transfers to Quebec to fight for the province’s secession from Canada”. If that is the case why are spending billions MORE on the bilinqual fiasco? Why are we sending ANY money there at all?
As a Canadian taxpayer we are, in general, a very tolerant people and don’t like to cause too much of a fuss. We tend to just got about our business and for the most part not bother anyone. But excuse me, how much do I have to bend over and take it for something I don’t need, don’t want, and doesn’t do anything for me? I think it’s time the rest of Canada spoke up and said no, no more. Either go, or stay. Quebec should be JUST another province. We are all “special” in our own way. As far as I’m concerned Mr Duceppe should just be a Premier just as Mr Layton is. They represent a province. Mr Layton does not have a party or a place in the house of commons. The same is true for all the other premiers. How this came to pass is another story, and a longer more complicated one. And we can thank a Quebecor for that too. But that’s something for another time. Right now, we need to think of our future. And what’s best for us, for CANADA, and that’s all Quebec does, for itself.
Sean McAllister is just a taxpayer, being told to “fermez-et prenez-le”.
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI agree 100%. The confrontation should be done immediately. I’m sick of Quebec.
And yes I am French and yes my wife is French and my ancestors all come from Quebec going back to the 1700’s.
Now, Quebec STFU and join Canada or FO.
Until Ontario wakes up and realizes they are and have been played for Equalization Chumps, nothing will change.
Ontario . . . is up to you. Voice an opinion or keep letting Quebec pick you pocket. Afterall it is mostly your money being frittered away supporting anti-Canadians.
At least Harper cut the greedy Danny Williams off at his kneecaps on the last round.
If Quebec wants to vote for separatists instead of federalists, based on trivial cuts to arts and culture, that in fact were not cuts but an increase of 8%, and the changing of criminal law to hold 14 yr.olds responsible for repeat offences, i. e. murder, then let them separate. Good riddance. But they have to pay back their national debt, and let’s move government offices/jobs to the Maritimes, or somewhere else out of Quebec.
I too am totally fed up with Quebec.
As a Canadian, I have long had a big problem with Quebec. The next time they think they want to leave Canada, I think the rest of Canada should be allowed to vote as well. It will be Goodbye Quebec, goodbye to all the ridiculous product labels in the supermarket, and goodbye all of the government forms that are printed in both languages!
I vote Quebec out!
In the light of the global financial crisis, why not put Quebec on eBay? No reserve, seller must pick up. I am sure that someone would be tempted to bid $5.
I can’t understand the victim complex that Quebecer’s embrace.
Too afraid to separate, too afraid to embrace Canada proper.
It’s no wonder Quebec has the nations highest rate of suicide and general anxiety, not to mention the lowest birthrate thanks to PQ and Bloc’s progessive agenda.
As long as Quebecers send political eunuchs to Ottawa, Quebec will whither own its own vine.
Gilles Duceppe will never be PM nor will he lead an independant Quebec.
The Bloc is the shakedown party of Canada and Quebecer’s should be ashamed of the path their following.
Harper has done alot to advance Quebec’s interests in Canada and he gets the middle finger.
This slight is not lost on the ROC.
Quebec is simply greedy, like all socialists, they want what you have and don’t think they should have to work to support themselves.
I am from Quebec.
Now thats that out, leta see what the people INSIDE quebec have to say and shut up everyone else who thinks Quebec is useless to Canda and so on.
Quebec is the biggest and I belive if the most populated province the second largest, we are the richest (after the oil in Alberta of course) and we are a vital part to Candas economy. If anything, if Quebec would be sold at 5 dollars, the other provincesand territories would be GIVEN away.
Anyway, as a federal quebecer, i also say to the soverignists STFU and that quebec wil never seperate from Quec and will never form a country.
First, with our elections recently over again, we need a system whereby only those interested in running the country as a whole has a seat in Parliment. What a waste to donate seats to a party that does not want the job and only has one goal, to leave Canada. Or, allow the rest of us to vote for that party so that they can fulfil their mandate and we’ll all be happy with the consequences. Secondly, the majority of Francophones that I have met have been decent, level headed people. But the loud minority and the unprecidented weight our political system has donated to them (not to mention the money and time) is just plain stupid…sadly though, having gone through one of the other ways our Government supports this province, language training, I have encountered more racist and narrowmindedness from some of my “teachers” than I thought still existed in Canada. Yes, we all have them in our cultures…it’s individuals not the groups…but WOW…it’s frightening how small minded, selfish and intitled some people believe they are. It is not enough to be that way and point to the Native American culture and say, “We don’t want to end up like that, that is why we have to take a stand as we are!” Not good enough.
Canada is the best Country in the world. We need Unity. I have always been a Quebec lover, my family is from there. However, to break up this Country would be so sad. I understand how they feel,there French and the rest of Canada is English. But this is not the story. I work all over Canada: East Coast, West Coast. There is French in most of the east Provinces, and Most of Ontario. I hate it when I hear people who don’t want to be apart of Canada. If were gonna separate Quebec, then I think Ontario should separate aswell. Then we could join the states. At least they come-together as a Country. They have multi culture there, most of the south states are Spanish. You don’t hear of them wanting to separate from the States. There has been two referendums one in 1980, the people of Quebec voted “NO” and in 1995 they Voted “no”. Why do we still hear about them seperating 13 years later. How many referendums can they have? Some Quebers want to seperate, but thats just how it is. If Ontario had a vote i’d seperate. Then we could join the states. They stand Unitied.
qubc is very rich and populated , so wat ifits mostly french its been part of cannada for a long time so leveave qubec alone .
QUEBEC IS A CANCER TO CANADA…CUT THEM OFF.
THEY GET ALL THE ATTENTION LIKE LITTLE BABIES.
I AM SICK OF THE WHINING. THEY ARE RUINING OUR COUNTRY. LET THEM HAVE THEIR OWN.
DONT CARE ANYMORE….I AM MOVING WEST TO GET OUT OF THE BS IN OTTAWA…HATE BEING A NEIGHBOR TO SUCH A SELFCENTERED GREEDY PROVINCE. DONT MOVE TO OTTAWA UNLESS YOUR A FROG.
Hi, I am from quebec, and all this bullshit about the money, its just to make you canadian assholes richer… the quebecors are the people paying the most taxes in the north american continent,AND we produce about one third of your whole economy, we deserve this 820 millions… and WE DO WANT TO GET OUT OF CANADA, but you pricks wont let us…
You dont like us
We dont like you
We dont have the same culture
We dont speak the same language
we do not have the same political interests ( war in afghanistan for exemple )
Why wont you leave us go away..
I wish Quebec would join the 21st century. The world is a lot bigger than Quebec. The world needs mutual understanding and respect, a sharing of wealth and knowledge. They are acting like selfish, spoiled brats who are encouraged of course by an irresponsible, equally egotistic and doting “uncle” - France itself.
Quebec, please study up the the American Civil War (you’re the South). And the rest of Canada, please study up on WWII. All you have to do is march in. They’ll throw you a parade!
LOL!
Sorry for being flip in the last paragraph of my earlier post. Couldn’t help it. Actually I take this situation very seriously.
Let me begin by saying that the following is not an attack on Quebec’s individuals. If the majority of Quebec citizens have voted against separatism I admire them and I have hope. This opinion is not about them but about my perspective on the way Quebec’s “attitude” as a whole appears to me.
The only other places I know of that are so insular and fanatical are some Muslim countries with their “My way or the highway” philosophy. (Oh and some “private” Mormon-style ranches in the US! Who knows what goes on there? EEK!”)
They all scream “Your way is SO wrong that I have the right to (a) kill you and/or (b) keep all my wealth so your poor will not benefit. In addition, when you are HERE you better do things my way or I will KILL you! and when I am in YOUR country you better respect ALL my ways; change your rules, regs, laws, society to ACCOMMODATE ME! But I don’t have to have any respect for you even as a human being at all anytime anywhere.”
That scares me partly because France and Quebec are (IMO) overly friendly with some of these countries. Perhaps the shared point of view (MY WAY is the ONLY WAY!) brings them together against the rest of the world. And it’s some of those Muslim countries that breed and train the most evil terrorists in the world. Even if Quebec is not yet breeding such evil people (with such an hateful attitude I’d be surprised if it wasn’t), I am sure it is hosting, educating, and supporting some.
The world is just too small and fragile to tolerate the attitude that “MINE is the ONLY way” whether it’s religion, language or culture. No one gains respect with that attitude. When will Quebec grow up and learn? Or will it need a “spanking” first. (Re-read last paragraph of my previous post.
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Brandon @ 4:04 I think the problem is that Quebec won’t let the rest of Canada alone - with all it’s “Moi, Moi, Moi” whining, greed, selfishness and better-than-thou attitude!
Jp - being the richest doesn’t make it the best in any way. It reminds me of Los Angeles County in California. It is a HUGE county. Part of it is extremely rich and a large part is extremely poor. Many of the rich would like to divide the county (along rich/poor lines) so that the super rich would be able to keep more of their money away from the poor. Is there anything at all to be admired about that attitude? IMO no.
What makes us Canadian is the cohabitation of french and english people. But I guess you guys doesn’t know that french people weren’t respected in any ways between 60′ and 70′.
The Nationnalist in Quebec is just a way to regain some energy and be a better people people that does something instead of waiting for some english to do the work for them.
I tell you guys. There is a lot more fo Canadian lovers in Quebec than separatist. Separation is going down. But the Federal has to change a bit IF we accept the FACT that there is a french culture in the Canada.
Don’t be haters and start building Canada. And please, England and France sucks. We are not like them, we will never be like them and we HAVE to be different from them.
– A Quebecer that fight for Canada everyday F days.
The Province of Quebec is a part of Canada and has been since 1867 and before then a part of the British Empire from 1763-1867.
I am sick and tired of the discrimination by the Quebecois on the Anglo-Quebecers and the English Language in Quebec. The Language Laws of Quebec like Bill 22, Bill 101 and company are unconstitutional and must be abolished and the Office Quebecois la langue Francias must be demolished as well. The English Language was illegaly removed as the co-official language of the Province of Quebec and must be restored voluntarily or by force if necessary. English should also be restored on signs, etc at the same size of that of French.
Under the Constitution Act of 1867, the same act that made English and French official languages of the Dominion of Canada also made English and French official languages of the Province of Quebec.
Constitution Act of 1867
Use of English and French Languages
Section 133
Either the English or the French Language may be used by any Person in the debates of the Houses of Parliament of Canada and of the Houses of Legilsature of Quebec: and both those Languages shall be used in the respective Records and Journels of those Houses: Either of those Languages may be used by any Person in or in any Pleading or Process in or issuing from any Court of Canada established under this Act, and in or from all or any of the Courts of Quebec.
The Acts of the Parliament of Canada and of the Legislature of Quebec shall be printed and published in both those Languages.
It’s my belief that if the Quebecois seperatists don’t like living in Canada (Quebec is a part of Canada), they should leave on the next plane or ship and go back to France. Canada must stop appeasing these cockaroaches and deal with them accordingly. Canada must protect the English Language and Anglo-Quebecers even if that means sending in the Military and declaring Martial Law. The Parti Quebecois must be banned and it’s supporters and members deportated from Canada (including Quebec) and sent back to France where they belong.
The 1 Million Anglo-Quebecers who left Quebec because of the terror of the FLQ and the tyranny of the Liberal and PQ Parties must come back home and make Anglo-Quebecers a large minority with in Quebec. The Anglo-Quebec Population must be increased from 10% to 30% of the Province’s population. The Anglo-Quebec Communities must be increased from 18%-60% and 2%- 40% of the population of the Cities of Montreal and Quebec City respectivaly. Only with a large Anglophone population in the Province of Quebec, will the Anglo-Quebecers have their rights respected and protected.
P.S. If the Quebecois seperatists want a conflict then lets BRING IT ON.
Hi, my dad is a Québecker and my mom is a newfie. I was born in Ottawa but raised and live in gatineau qc all of my life. I do think that both french and english think they are right.
I do consider myself a Qcbker. Just to let you know for some questions, you are simply spreading propaganda. If Québec does get 1/3 of the funds or what ever its cuz it’s almost 1/3 of the canadian population. And by the way I actually see the results of the billions of dollars spent on ”translations” and my mom worked in a hr call center and honestly with all of the respesct you think french people are second class citizens. People get promoted because they know how to say hi in french. The call center she worked said they where offering fully bilinguial services when the offices in torronto only had several phrases written on a paper to transfer them as fast as possible to another line so they could get them off of their hands.
I do think that what makes canada unique is the french & english. But remember that, New france never asked to be part of Britain. We were invaded and some of are population were deported to the states where nowaydays the only way to different them is their last name.
I work in a tim Horton’s and i must say its just sad how nobody gives a sh*****t about quebec. They think a poor translation will do the job. For example we had a bottle of Iced coffee base maker and it was written: Saveur artificial et naturel. when it should of been written Saveurs artificielles et naturelles. I mean honestly do u really think we don’t notice. And please stop comming in qbc and ordering in english and being all rude when we say hi to u in french or what ever …… Sometimes i get really pissed but i am proud to be canadian but i must say the rest of canada needs to stop being so selfish. Half of the freaking wolrd speaks english so let qbc be french god!!
I think Quebec should leave, then quite simply due to resources Canada should do a hostile country take over the french who didn’t wanna leave Canada wouldn’t fight back, then we can just simply say guess what we own you assimilate or go back to France. I think it would solve many problems the thing they don’t seem to understand is they’re lucky Canada is so lenient on this garbage they pull otherwise they should of already been sent off somewhere else. Quite simply it’s Canada’s land not yours if you don’t like it go somewhere else because honestly you’re lucky enough to live as nicely as you do. It’ll never happen quit trying.
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