I have been the editor of Blogger News for nearly 3 years, which is a lifetime in the world of the Internet! During that time I can not recall a news story that has provoked more reader response than the Caylee Anthony one. My wife Jan has been reporting on the case since it broke in mid July, and every story elicits huge reader response.
In looking at the comments, and many of the articles have hundreds of comments, it is clear that 99% of people think that Caylee Anthony is dead, and the obvious killer is her mother Casey Anthony.
I don’t know nearly as much about the case as Jan, but seeing as our computers are three feet from each other, I get to hear a running, blow by blow account of what is going on. In my mind the guilty party is obvious, it is just a question of when are the authorities going to slap the cuffs on Casey Anthony once and for all.
In fact if I had my way I’d slap the whole family in Jail on ‘obstruction of justice’ charges, and make sure that they were put in with the general prison population, Casey Anthony would be singing like a bird in 20 mins! I’d also slap the idiot lawyer Jose Baez in clink on an arrogance charge, any lawyer that has the gall to make the comment “It is not in my clients best interests to tell all she knows” does not deserve to be practicing law. Three year old Caylee Anthony has been missing for almost 3 months, and this idiot is taunting the world with comments like that.
I am sure that the police are just waiting to pounce, but until they have their ducks in a row it seems to us outsiders that they are doing nothing. You can bet your bottom dollar that is not the case. They are sifting though every scrap of information, and when they figure the case is airtight, body, or no body, it’s off to the slammer with this stupid young woman.
So again, kudos Jan for keeping us all informed of what is happening in the case, and thank you to all of the people that have weighed in with their comments.
Simon Barrett - Editor
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“In fact if I had my way I’d slap the whole family in Jail on ‘obstruction of justice’ charges, and make sure that they were put in with the general prison population, Casey Anthony would be singing like a bird in 20 mins! I’d also slap the idiot lawyer Jose Baez in clink on an arrogance charge, any lawyer that has the gall to make the comment “It is not in my clients best interests to tell all she knows” does not deserve to be practicing law. Three year old Caylee Anthony has been missing for almost 3 months, and this idiot is taunting the world with comments like that.”
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You speak for many, Simon, and very eloquently I might say.
“isn’t in my client’s best interest” reminds me of the stupid remark made by Casey to investigators about her ‘missing’ cell phone. “It wouldn’t keep charge and I could only talk for about 30 minutes before it would go dead. AND, FOR ME, THAT’S NOT PRACTICAL.”
Well, no, Casey. And having a 2yo toddler cramping your style wasn’t practical OR IN YOUR BEST INTEREST, either. But you took care of that, didn’t you?
thankyou thankyou simon exactly how all of us feel about that whole twisted family and their muppet of a lawyer,yes we are all impatient for those metal braclets slapped on her wrists but i have full faith police are making their case full proof and then we can finally let little caylee rest in peace.
***EXCELLENT* article Simon,
Jan is our HERO too, BTW!!
***EXCELLENT*** article Simon,
Jan is our HERO too, BTW!!
what about if Caylee was put in a suitcase,
at some point anyway, would make things a bit more difficult to find “her” i doubt she weighed much over 30 pounds, if that.. she was teeny.
i am also going over to Simon’s blog for a few, so who will post where lol
anyway then back to work.
i meant jan’s blog lol
Great post. And I agree 100%.
I say……………”Put her in the slammer on check fraud charges, put her in the general population of the inmates, and LET ‘EM AT HER”. Whatever hte case may be? Casey’s life is over IN or OUT of prison. Either the population of the outside world will get her or the inmates are going to have field day with her!!! I would like to be at the side show when the inmates get her to talk, and she will sing. It is not going to be pretty, but THAT would be justice!!!!”
I believe that Casey is guilty. However, I am unsure of what she is guilty of. I am sorry but if they found decomp in the trunk, she would have been arrested immediately. Coming from a family of law enforcement, this is just a given. I agree with America on how messed up Casey is, but I think people fail to think about the cause of why she is the way she is. With that in mind, what or who has happened to her and how far would she go to prevent the same from happening to her child. In all the cases of women killing their children, I noticed one thing in common, remorse and regret. It is built in. Casey does not show this, but I don’t believe she is incapable of feeling this. Maybe she honestly feels her daughter is better off wherever she is as long as she is away from whatever or whoever affected her. Her mother, Cindy seems just as messed up and full of hatred for Casey, is this jealousy? I may find myself disgusted to find out my husband is messing with my daughter, but if I didn’t leave him for it, would I be filled with jealousy?
I am aware of the underground systems, especially in Florida. And though it doesn’t seem likely, it’s not completely unthinkable for a mother to send her child off to protect them.
Anyone on the Anthony’s side should be locked up as not one of them can tell the truth. I am from Canada and have been following this story from day one. Makes one wonder how much money they will make when and if it is ever over. Can they just say where Caylee is and save all the time and money they have spent searching for her. There will be movies and books for sure when they sell their story.
“Stage 4: Black putrefaction - 10 to 20 days after death
The pig’s body has collapsed with black exposed surfaces and creamy flesh. Photo: R. Major
State of decay
The bloated body eventually collapses, leaving a flattened body whose flesh has a creamy consistency. The exposed parts of the body are black in colour and there is a very strong smell of decay.
A large volume of body fluids drain from the body at this stage and seep into the surrounding soil. Other insects and mites feed on this material.
The insects consume the bulk of the flesh and the body temperature increases with their activity. Bacterial decay is still very important, and bacteria will eventually consume the body if insects are excluded.
Insect activity
By this stage, several generations of maggots are present on the body and some have become fully grown. They migrate from the body and bury themselves in the soil where they become pupae. Predatory maggots are much more abundant at this stage, and the pioneer flies cease to be attracted to the corpse. Predatory beetles lay their eggs in the corpse and their larvae then hatch out and feed on the decaying flesh. Parasitoid wasps are much more common, laying their eggs inside maggots and pupae.”
This which i excerpted from the previous posts link to decomposition is the stage i believe Caylee was in when her monster mom placed her in the trunk of her own car …and which all the evidence points to, sigh…
cj..It almost sounds if you are using US Army standards when referring to a pigs body…what the ‘L does that have to do with Caylee?
i hate to think it, but she could be in the belly of an alligator. poor little girl. so sad
Joyce, there are some in America that recognize that the news often doesn’t report the truth nor would they know it if it bit the in the butt. That is why the legal system is in place to prevent such “witch hunts” from ignorant blood thirsty people such as the buffoons we have seen in front of the Anthony home.
chryvine…I agree with you wholeheartedly. It does seem unthinkable to sacrifice your child in fear the underworld would get your family. The parents aren’t worried about it. The only people who make such a deal out of it are people in the law enforcement and/or entertainment industry…Padilla wanted her in a safe house.
People who trade in children and drugs aren’t near as tough as others give them credit as being.
Life is stranger than fiction! Simon, I agree with everything you said. I’m suprised the mainstream media have not commented on the Jose Baez statement as it knocked me out of my seat. The Anthony family have been in a massive coverup and continue to do so unchallenged by the press. On day it’s “we know who has Caylee” then the next day it’s “why aren’t the police and media looking for Caylee?”. Casey feels above the law as she has never experienceed any repercusions for her actions as evidenced by her family’s current and pass behaviour and the fact that she wears a “Help Find Caylee T-Shirt” in public (rubbing her nose at law enforcement and the public). I believe a single solitary taste of reality will jolt this women to dilvulge the truth.
i wonder what happened to casey in her childhood to make her scared of her mother. i mean every chance her mom got she put casey down. and casey is very scared of her mom. if not for that i think she would have already told where cayle body is. and i think casey has shut her mind doen to what and where cayle is. since casey is know for her many men friends her lawyer may be her new male friend?????
I agree with the comments about the family being charged with obstruction. The comments at the beginning of Casey knowing where Caylee is and then George saying ‘we know who has her and they are being watched’. were ridiculous. If you knew, wouldn’t you tell, bring her home and stop this crazy circus going on in your life? I think that the police are putting all their ducks in a row and they will charge. They don’t want to charge too soon and her get off because of double-jeopardy.
I disagree with “Chryvine”. LE has nothing to lose by taking their time on this case. Casey is not going anywhere. As Simon said, they want all their ducks in a row. Without a body they want an airtight case.
Without a body, there is no such thing as an airtight case. And I agree they need to have their ducks in a row, but charges can be brought up with the evidence they say they have. They would then have plenty of time to put it together.LE is perfectly aware that if they would put her in general population their chances of her cracking would multiply due to the dislike for her. There is no pressure on her, so why bother telling the truth.
chryvine: I believe that LE is doing a thorough investigation and will bring appropriate charges when they’re ready. It’s not enough to find decomp in the car - they want to prove that she’s responsible for it!
And they have to avoid “mistreating” her (like putting her in general population - which they have not so far) because the public view could easily swing to see her and her family as victims. Maybe that will change when they charge her with murder. But by then they’ll probably know enough that it won’t matter what she says.
M (short for monster, short for you know who) exhibits all the signs of a sociopath who will only tell the truth when it is in her best interests. As her attorney, Baez, pointed out so clearly and stupidly the other day, it is not in her best interests(to help find her child). That’s all the admission of guilt that I need.
I am sorry that you believe that putting her into general population would be mistreating her. I think she generally committed a crime. And in my belief, it would be treating her with special privelages to protect her from the enviroment in which she earned. I don’t commit felonies because I know that I cannot survive in that kind of enviroment. She has no fear. And without fear, there is no respect. Society has a way of weeding out the bad, that way is not acceptable to people so in turn we have a justice system,which works about 50 percent of the time, but the original way was nature and there’s nothing wrong with nature.
chryvine: I meant I think that LE may have been taking certain precautions early in the case so as not to appear to be mistreating her. At least in the beginning when she was first arrested, then bailed out, then re-arrested on economic charges and the original bail revoked.
I’ve heard psychology experts say that isolating her might have helped make her talk. And she was isolated in jail those first times.
But either it didn’t work or she got bailed out too soon. It’s perfectly possible that LE will put her in gen pop when they arrest her the next time and that is fine by me!
i agree twocents,when i watched the footage of m in jail on phone call to cindy and was being begged to say where caylee was all she cried about was all everyone wants to know about is caylee and all she wanted was a phone no for her boyfriend!that doesnt seem to me like a mum frantic about her missing daughter.
This story is so much like the Drew Peterson case. He was always on the screen and in the news.so what ever happened to him and will this story end up the same way. Like nothing happened. They finally got OJ but bet that one is not over either .You people in the US know how your tax $$$$$$$ is spent.
Good afternoon to all: nothing new to say, just reading all your excellent comments.
We can all still hope and pray that with the return of EquuSearch, they might still find Caylee’s remains.
I think Kobe just wants in on the attention and as some of you said….a first hand look a the evidence himself. He could still harm the defense if his testimony actually hurts Casey’s case, right?
ChsAh: If the defense knows that Kobilinsky’s testimony could hurt their case they won’t put him on the stand. Don’t know if the prosecution could at that point. They might not know what he would say - but could wonder why he’s not being called during the trial.
mytwocents: good point. IT will be interesting to see what he (Kobe) does. NG isn’t using him much anymore is she? Naughty Kobe…
It is a shame that Cindy didn’t change her mind about putting on the pressure. M was sure her mom would never forgive her in the first interviews. Now that she knows her family believes her, she will never crack. Then she truly wouldn’t be forgiven. If Cindy wanted the truth, she should have held her ground. Not allowing her to stay in the house, telling her the truth would be the only way they would keep contact with her. How sad! God bless you Caylee!!!
I’m new here, and am coming to appreciate all the comments that are so spot on. This is the best blog on this topic that I’ve found yet…
General population is chock full of women who would give anything to be home with their children. They will ~definitely~ not take kindly to someone like Casey cavalierly tossing aside the life of a precious baby. They’ll take care of her azz and good…
Stay with us Jeannie (and everyone else)!. It might be slow tonight but the blogs on this topic (here on bloggernews.net) have been HOPPING most days and nights for months!!!
Lots to discuss, argue, theorize about etc. Never boring. Although as I said it might be slow tonight. Also there is another story on bloggernews.net on this case right now and some people are posting over there. Go to the home page and scroll down just a bit. It’s about M. and written by Jan.
To all: OK, in my head I know Caylee is not here on Earth anymore. But, what IF, just what IF Casey did sell her for money and a way to get even with Cindy? Maybe investigators are going to steal her back in some way. Maybe Caylee is in another country. This kind of thing happens. Children are stolen and sent to other countries. I guess I am have a hard time coming to grips with this whole thing. My young daughter lives with us and so does her daughter. I could never imagine something happening to our granddaughter and all of the sudden she is gone, never coming home.
It obvious that Casey has screwed her mother over so many times that deep in Cindy’s heart she knows Casey is plain no good. I am sick to death of this whole story. If Casey was my daughter, the situation would never have gone this far. Casey needs to be tortured or something to make her tell the truth. Again, I cannot imagine Caylee dead.
hi jeannie,your soo right about all of us would give anything to be able to stay at home with our children but probly like u,out working to give our children a happy life,pay bills,boring stuff that parents do but wouldnt swap those working days for any nightclub or party,and yes m day will come and she can shake that booty ass of hers all she wants in her cell.
Thanks - I’ve been lurking for awhile now and think that all of the regulars are really interesting
grandma2twogirls, your thought is what ALL of us wish were true (Caylee alive and coming home), but some of the DNA evidence in this case has indicated she was deceased when placed in m’s car. That pretty much convinced most of us that she is in a better place. But……..miracles do happen, it never hurts to quit praying.
Welcome aboard our blog! and to Jeanne as well!
Just curious if anyone else caught this/thought the same thing - I was wayching NG the other day where they played a taped interview with Lee and he was describing C as asking “who took her who took her”? in regards to Caylee whereas M answered “Umm, the nanny did”. When I heard it it struck me as ~lightbulb goes off for M moment~ and she says “um yeah yeah that’s the ticket - someone ~TOOK~ her”. Just my $0.02
jeannie,grandma2tgirls,have u read other post today caylee anthony mother described as one of the toughest.
I’m Back!
~Stumbles In Room~
HA!
hi kimcon,think most are on other post caylee anthony mother described as one of the most toughest
Simon, wonderful, thoughtful note you wrote!
Thank you for sharing your thoughts…
Agreed, general pop, for the momster, will get her to sing like a bird!
BTW, I ended up not going to Santa Barbara due to the fact that my board meeting went long… So, I’m back!
Hi -ya’ll!
i heard that she confessed is this true???
where is everyone tonight!?!?
Hello!
I am a grandmother of 3 beautiful grand children. Now that my children have grown ,my grandchildren are my life. If anything like this ever happened to one of them I would be going bannanas and if for one minute I knew that my daughter had anything to do with it, I would not have her staying in my home and I love my daughter very much. Casey should be locked up and put in with the general population that have ways of making people talk. When she was in jail they gave her special treatment. Caylee was a beautiful child and Casey didnt deserve to have her.
Oh, wow, I just did a google search 5 min. ago and didn’t see anything about that.. but if she was smart, Maze - that would be great..
it was a topic that was going throug are town so i was kind of hoping there was some truth to what happened just to put her someplace instead of no where right now
Agreed, Sylvia, time is overdue for the Momsters parents to show her some tough love and bring that little girl home to finally rest!
I did hear that equsearch is back out looking for the body.
I went to myfoxorlano.com and they only have info. today on dumb ol’ O.J.
that figures hes another one of those that belong behind bars
Local6.com
Beary said that additional evidence is coming but he has asked investigators not to brief him until they are ready to release it.
The sheriff also said that he is hopeful that the case will come to a close before he leaves office in less than three months.
Maze, Tim from equsearch is a good guy, he lost his daughter to a murderer as well..
Its seems to me that casey is guilty of the death of her daughter. I also think that the reason she keeps running everyone around in circles and not comming out and just saying this is what happened to Caylee…. and just ending all of this is because she likes her “15 minutes of fame.” and shes trying to make it last for as ong as she can.
chryvine said,in October 4th, 2008 at 1:43 pm
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I believe Casey is guilty as hell and the FBI has confirmed the DNA is dead Caylee’s. You, chryvine are either 10 years old or a fucken moron. Thing it is the later.
chryvine said,in October 4th, 2008 at 1:43 pm I believe that Casey is guilty. However, I am unsure of what she is guilty of. I am sorry but if they found decomp in the trunk, she would have been arrested immediately. Coming from a family of law enforcement, this is just a given. I agree with America on how messed up Casey is, but I think people fail to think about the cause of why she is the way she is. With that in mind, what or who has happened to her and how far would she go to prevent the same from happening to her child. In all the cases of women killing their children, I noticed one thing in common, remorse and regret. It is built in. Casey does not show this, but I don’t believe she is incapable of feeling this. Maybe she honestly feels her daughter is better off wherever she is as long as she is away from whatever or whoever affected her. Her mother, Cindy seems just as messed up and full of hatred for Casey, is this jealousy? I may find myself disgusted to find out my husband is messing with my daughter, but if I didn’t leave him for it, would I be filled with jealousy?
I am aware of the underground systems, especially in Florida. And though it doesn’t seem likely, it’s not completely unthinkable for a mother to send her child off to protect them.
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Undergroud systems, in Florida, LOL….so you are aware…Hilarious….you moron..
Have you ever heard the term Sociopath? Research Diane Downs. There is your cookie cutter of Casey Anthony. I can’t believe what an idiot you are. IT’s a GIVEN LE would arrest right away….Geeze..what an idiot. And free advice, quit living vicariously through your “LE” family. LOL
Well it’s nice to see intelligence at it’s best. You need to check a little deeper on those reports of DNA. The only sign of Caylee being in that trunk is a strand of hair and I bet you could find many strands of hair in many trunks especially since her coat was in the trunk. The evidence of decomp came from AIR tests, not DNA. Now, I don’t think anything, like the LE I am listening to all possibilities before I take anything and run with it, as for your so lovely judgement of me, that is something you can answer to when your least expecting it. God Bless You!
I feel for you. Do you need some phone numbers? There are people who can help you.
To You are Nuts: You need to back off with the vulgar comments to chryvine. Everyone is entitled to their own opinion. I am one that knows Caylee is probably dead but my heart tell me NOT to give up. There is always hope and faith. I live in St. Louis and think about Shawn Hornbeck and Ben Owensby. I believe Casey’s parents are beside themselves and don’t know what to do. My daughter and granddaughter live with us but she is nothing like Casey. She goes to school and is trying to make a better life for herself and daughter. We help her 100% as long as she does what she is suppose to do. The situation with Casey would never have gone this far. It would not have been tolerated in our house. My daughter has never stole from us or lied. She loves her daughter. She is her #1 priority and we help as much as we can. Cindy and George need to be given a break on this whole mess. I think Casey should be in jail to give herself sometime to think and then maybe she will talk. I hope and pray that Caylee is alive with a good family. My heart speaks more than my brain.
Thank you Grandma to 2 girls. I am one to have hopes when things are hopeless too. It’s part of what gets us thru life. And Faith creates miracles. Congrats to the family doing good, I have to boys, 17 and 13 and they are wonderful, never had any problems beyond the expected teenage attitude now and then. You are right on te toleration, though I tend to beleive that tolerance acted as an aid to create “Casey”. But we can hope and hope and hope until they turn up a body, then we will have to accept what is. She is guilty, but what and how is the question.
To: Caylee has stolen America’s heart said,
Thank you, I know what probably is true but I cannot give up hope for this beautiful baby. My granddaughter resembles Caylee’s looks and this is breaking my heart. I am obsessed with the whole story. I think I need to stay off of the computer for a while. I have Caylee’s picture hanging on my frig with other kids who give me their pics. It will stay there until she is found. Again, thanks.
Note to some of the harsher postings. Everyone needs to remember that we are not the ones who did anything wrong> WE are each entitled to express our feelings. There is no need to be ugly and attack each other. Anyone in LE would know that they never release all the info that they truly have. In Florida the law requires you to go to trial within 145 days of charges so rushing to charge her in a case where she isn’t going anywhere is pointless. Without a body it IS harder to get a conviction…. M has made it harder by indicating to some people that G borrowed her car and may have hit and killed something. THe LE have to be able to prove only she could have done this. I think M is a soiciopath which isn’t caused by family problems either so the blame game for G & C seems harsh at times. I think they act like people who have totally come unhinged. What would I do if my grandchild were missing? Then to believe my own child did it? Much easier to believe lies than confront reality. I have heard the interviews as I am sure most of you did. If they were just as guilty as M then they would never have forced the issue. G even says in his interview that the smell caused him fear and it bothered him alot. I think M used Caylee to control G & C because they didn’t want to lose her. Now that M decided to move on and have a life she punished them by taking away the one thing they really cherished Caylee. I know this opinion will not sit well with people because they are so angry at the whole ugly story. I remember something that C said in her interview about how the media forgets about missing kids after 2 or 3 days. When the officer was talking to her about saying things that weren’t true. She is desperately hoping that keeping the media fed will generate info to find missing Caylee. Before anyway writes hate comments… I think C is delusional now. But I think she has to believe this for her self. They have been much quieter recently as I think things aare sinking in. That attorney may very well be forcing them to cooperate by promising to tell them where Caylee is.
Please , someone that has more law knowledge than the general public, give us a lawful reason that Casey is’nt in jail for the misc. crimes that she has committed against other innocent ppl that knew and did’nt know her? That in itself is ungodly and unlawful.. If this was on typical joe’s head guarenteed we’d all be in the slammer..
Why can’t Casey wait it out in the slammer like anyone else?
You are nuts: everyone is welcome who wants to join Jan & Simon’s blog, but keep up the foul language and they will give you the boot. You are entitled to your comments but you should be nicer when trying to express them. KK???????
Like a vast majority of people, I too have been keenly interested in this case. First and foremost let us all be mindful that this is about a two year old humanbeing and what her twenty-two year old mom did to her. Yes, it is so obvious that whatever happened to Caylee was a direct result of Casey’s actions. What that exactly entails, I have no idea. That being said, we do not have to become like a monster ourselves. I do not want any intentional harm to befall Casey. As a civilized humanbeing, I want her to have a fair trial. I also want her to be away from the general public in prison, because eventually as time passes, she will be moved into the general population. I say this because I have faith that LE will make a concrete case against her and she will be found guilty. If that does not happen, well, I believe that Casey will never know true happiness and will continue to lead the destructive life that led to Caylee death.
Copper, I’m not LE, but unfortunately there is a due process that has to be followed. Everyone is entitled to bail out if the judge has set bail. NONE OF US are happy about her being out and 95% OF US on this blog believe she is guilty or murdering Caylee. But…..if they don’t allow her the same legal rights as anyone else, they could jeopordize this case against her. Sorry…….not want you want to hear but it’s my opinion.
I walk away from the computer to do the laundry and I come back, and so much transpires..
I believe, however that the DNA matching Caylee to the hair has come back. The police have confirmed that Caylee is dead.
Well said, CHSAH.
welcome to the blog oldmotheroftoddlerboys!
Sociopaths are generally NOT social people. Though Casey may have some of the traits of a sociopath, the disorder is actually an antisocial disorder and as we have read through many messages and heard from all of her associates, she is very social. I think calling her a sociopath is actually excusing her of the responsibility of the actions she is responsible for. Even if they find Caylee alive, she is still guilty of something.
Oh, yeah, where are my manners tonight! Welcome, OMOTB!
Regarding concernedforcaylee post, i most definitly agree with you. Also, this is just a theroy, if you will,(my thoughts go to worse case): Has anyone else heard that George is not Casey’s bio dad? Given that has anyone else maybe thought that he might be Caylee’s bio dad? What if Casey had been molested by George for a very long time. Would this kind of dysfunction lead to sociopath behavior? Would this dysfunction result in Cindy’s utter denial of anything remotely absurd? What is going on with this family? I would enjoy any thoughts regarding this.
The momster is most certainly guilty on many accounts!
If it was up to me, she would be in the slammer!
Hey, thanks for all the welcomes!
hi Amy! Didn’t make the trip huh?
Well, OMOTB,
I think anything is possible in this case.. a while back it was talked about possibly Lee and momster, hence the name caylee…
I think you’re on to something in terms of many skelatons in the closet of the ANTs
Amy, I agree with you on the DNA…….I hate weekends cause there isn’t usually anymore newer news! But it is still good to hear other’s opinions!
BTW, sociopath is defined by antisocial behavior. One can be very social, i.e. going out to clubs, having friend and still be a sociopath. Antisocial behavior encompasses many things but most of all lying. Google DSMV and then sociopath.
No, CHSAH!
I’m so upset at myself… I planned on getting on the road at noon, after my board meeting, however, the meeting didn’t let out until 4:30… Good grief, would have much rather looked at the beautiful scenery of HWY 101 - along the coast then sitting in a board meeting.. However, on a plus, side, I was missing this blog!
That is what my original comment was leading to many hours ago.
Perhaps, something traumatic occurred and the behavior kicked in. Perhaps in was repressed? Just a thought..
chryvine, I don’t think a sociopath (spelled?) is antisocial, the are just self centered and it’s all “about me” is what I thought? (among other things….) but I don’t think they are antisocial????? I’m no expert so feel free to correct me if I’m wrong!
I’m just stunned that her parents (C&G) haven’t kicked the tar out of her yet… There is no way on this good green earth, that I could live in the same household of someone like this!
However, I do think C&G had part in destroying evidance…
I do think that they too don’t want to have the identity of the father of Caylee revealed.
Just a thought… but, if the father is one of her ex-lovers who is still alive, he may too sue this family?
Don’t you think?
Amy, sorry to hear that you missed your trip….. but glad your HERE!
What mother (Cindy) would not want to know who knocked up her daughter?
Thanks, me, too
Amy, your comments are right on target with my thoughts! Everyone else is suing…….they probably would to. Not to mention if Caylee were ever found alive (I know….highly unlikely) by IF she were, they could end up with custody since all the Ant’s see to me nutsola!!!!
As parents we all love and cherish our child. Also as parent we are heartbroken when our children fail. But fail they must. Success is only learned through failure. Resilency, strength, and persaverance are the results of failure. Cindy would not allow her child to fail. She would not allow her child to take responsibility for stealing, lying, and cheating. As parents, I believe we would not tolerate a young adult offspring stealing from their grandparents. We would take action. We would instist that our child take responsibility and right that wrong. What is going on with this family?
Amy, I would bet that they asked Casey who the father was and I’ll bet Casey couldn’t give them an answer, so she made something up. That woman has slept with so many men at once, I doubt she knows who the father is!
I think momster has learned behavior.. her mom seems very similar in both vengance (sp) and a super duper hot temper
Antisocial Personality Disorder is chronic, beginning in adolescence
and continuing throughout adulthood. There are ten general
symptoms:
not learning from experience
no sense of responsibility
inability to form meaningful relationships
inability to control impulses
lack of moral sense
chronically antisocial behavior
no change in behavior after punishment
emotional immaturity
lack of guilt
self-centeredness
This is directly off the website I am researching and what I learned in Psychology as well. Though many of the traits may fit, unfortunately, they fit many other traits as well. This is why correct diagnosis of mental illness is difficult.
I must correct myself. I was sexist in stating that Cindy would not allow Casey to fail. George must also be held responsible for allowing Casey to having never been held accountable for her actions. My apologies.
Can you believe that! Terrible, she should have givin that beautiful little girl to a family who would love her..
well see you all later…….got some movies to watch tonight! Talk with you later Amy!
You’re sweet, OMOTB… Both C&G created this train wreck of a daughter
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Nice work, chryvine. Most agreed with last sentence. I am an armchair psychologist and am quite good at diagnosing family members. LOL.
Grammy, good idea! This would be horrible if they give those people any money!
I think that some of the more famous or infamous serial killers that were sociopaths seemed like “normal” people until there secrets were exposed. Most of M’s social life was made up that can’t be social if they don’t exist. Also even they way she treated her “friends” was not right steal from them, lie, fight over nothing, have more than one guy lined up at a time, make aa date and then have to go to your imaginary job to work so she breaks the date Sociopath doesn’t mean not responisble it means she has no feeling or remore period. Which means her actions could very well be repeated if something gets in her way she is removed. There is no medication to control it it is just who she is. Question as to parentage. Both Lee and M have some last name as parents so either he is biological dad or adopted them. But Lee is the older sib so it seems unlike that M would have a different father (althoug not impossible) I think what I see with the G & C drama is that M used Caylee as a weapon, drove a wedge between G & c because C wanted to excuse her problems to keep Caylee and G was fed up with the attitude. If there had been abuse by G M was old enough to legally leave that house and take her daughter with her. there would be no need to go underground to protect her from her family. If M was really afraid of C she certainly wouldn’t talk so horribly to her mom. SHe acted like a person who knows you have no choice but to do as I say. I believe M has been using emotional blackmail to control C since the birth of Caylee. C is acting like the devasted mother looking for her child, desperate to believe anything and try anything to get her back. M either felt like if she didn’t want Caylee then no one else was going to have her either. At 22 M could have easily left that home and she was 19 when she was pregnant so she would have been able to have moved out to stop the abuse. And if it occured she would be afraid and hate G more than C. I think Caylee’s biological fathers name is Eric James Baker. There were some notes on a computer talking about this gentleman having passed away. WHen C was talking to the police they asked who the dad was and she said that M told her his name is Eric, but she hadn’t met him or rmembered his last night.
Correction, sorry I meant to say these traits fit many other illnesses. This is what I wrote.
“This is directly off the website I am researching and what I learned in Psychology as well. Though many of the traits may fit, unfortunately, they fit many other traits as well. This is why correct diagnosis of mental illness is difficult”
Either way, I am afraid we may be giving her excuses. Maybe there’s nothing wrong with her except like one said, learned behavior. Any mental diagnosis would be easing her of the responsibility.
what is the definition of Sociopath
CFC, the above gives me somethings to ponder… Thanks!
Concerned: I do think my theory is a little far fetched and you proved that. I find your insight on Casey using Caylee to control Cindy interesting. How do you get to the point of using your own daughter to control your own mother? I am so blaffled by this family.
http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/sociopath
I think caylee’s father is still alive.. However, I don’t think momster ever told him. I do think caylee was a pawn for her to manipulate her parents.
And that momster not only felt that caylee was stealing her attention away within her family, but was a hinderance to her social life, and began to resent her when she started to talk and comprehend everything..
I too am an armchair warrior!
read this definition of sociopath and see if it fits. Be open minded. Profile of the Sociopath
This website summarizes some of the common features of descriptions of the behavior of sociopaths.
Glibness and Superficial Charm
Manipulative and Conning
They never recognize the rights of others and see their self-serving behaviors as permissible. They appear to be charming, yet are covertly hostile and domineering, seeing their victim as merely an instrument to be used. They may dominate and humiliate their victims.
Grandiose Sense of Self
Feels entitled to certain things as “their right.”
Pathological Lying
Has no problem lying coolly and easily and it is almost impossible for them to be truthful on a consistent basis. Can create, and get caught up in, a complex belief about their own powers and abilities. Extremely convincing and even able to pass lie detector tests.
Lack of Remorse, Shame or Guilt
A deep seated rage, which is split off and repressed, is at their core. Does not see others around them as people, but only as targets and opportunities. Instead of friends, they have victims and accomplices who end up as victims. The end always justifies the means and they let nothing stand in their way.
Shallow Emotions
When they show what seems to be warmth, joy, love and compassion it is more feigned than experienced and serves an ulterior motive. Outraged by insignificant matters, yet remaining unmoved and cold by what would upset a normal person. Since they are not genuine, neither are their promises.
Incapacity for Love
Need for Stimulation
Living on the edge. Verbal outbursts and physical punishments are normal. Promiscuity and gambling are common.
Callousness/Lack of Empathy
Unable to empathize with the pain of their victims, having only contempt for others’ feelings of distress and readily taking advantage of them.
Poor Behavioral Controls/Impulsive Nature
Rage and abuse, alternating with small expressions of love and approval produce an addictive cycle for abuser and abused, as well as creating hopelessness in the victim. Believe they are all-powerful, all-knowing, entitled to every wish, no sense of personal boundaries, no concern for their impact on others.
Early Behavior Problems/Juvenile Delinquency
Usually has a history of behavioral and academic difficulties, yet “gets by” by conning others. Problems in making and keeping friends; aberrant behaviors such as cruelty to people or animals, stealing, etc.
Irresponsibility/Unreliability
Not concerned about wrecking others’ lives and dreams. Oblivious or indifferent to the devastation they cause. Does not accept blame themselves, but blames others, even for acts they obviously committed.
Promiscuous Sexual Behavior/Infidelity
Promiscuity, child sexual abuse, rape and sexual acting out of all sorts.
Lack of Realistic Life Plan/Parasitic Lifestyle
Tends to move around a lot or makes all encompassing promises for the future, poor work ethic but exploits others effectively.
Criminal or Entrepreneurial Versatility
Changes their image as needed to avoid prosecution. Changes life story readily.
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Other Related Qualities:
Contemptuous of those who seek to understand them
Does not perceive that anything is wrong with them
Authoritarian
Secretive
Paranoid
Only rarely in difficulty with the law, but seeks out situations where their tyrannical behavior will be tolerated, condoned, or admired
Conventional appearance
Goal of enslavement of their victim(s)
Exercises despotic control over every aspect of the victim’s life
Has an emotional need to justify their crimes and therefore needs their victim’s affirmation (respect, gratitude and love)
Ultimate goal is the creation of a willing victim
Incapable of real human attachment to another
Unable to feel remorse or guilt
Extreme narcissism and grandiose
May state readily that their goal is to rule the world
I say this is MOMster to a t
Just found this: Antisocial behavior may also be a direct attempt to alter the environment. Social learning theory suggests that negative behaviors are reinforced during childhood by parents, caregivers, or peers. In one formulation, a child’s negative behavior (e.g., whining, hitting) initially serves to stop the parent from behaving in ways that are aversive to the child (the parent may be fighting with a partner, yelling at a sibling, or even crying). The child will apply the learned behavior at school, and a vicious cycle sets in: he or she is rejected, becomes angry and attempts to force his will or assert his pride, and is then further rejected by the very peers from whom he might learn more positive behaviors. As the child matures, “mutual avoidance” sets in with the parent(s), as each party avoids the negative behaviors of the other. Consequently, the child receives little care or supervision and, especially during adolescence, is free to join peers who have similarly learned antisocial means of expression.
She sure does have a few screws loose!
much earlier today, I mentioned that Tim from equsearch is back and is looking for a dead body
Amy: Ok, she sure does. Tim said out right that he was looking for a dead body? I skimmed over it. What did he say inregards to Casey, if anything?
I don;t think he said anything this time about Casey.. But he doesn’t have a whole lot of nice things to say about the family, entire family..
When we look into serial killers we find that many were sociopaths, and many were antisocial. Sure, the people at work thought they were quiet and sweet, but they tend to be private. People didn’t notice their sociopathy because they didn’t let people in close enough. Casey is a liar, she partied alot, she couldn’t keep a job, these are common learned habits and traits. I have met many people with these similar issues in life. I don’t think any have been diagnosed as sociopaths. As well as many killers are not sociopaths. Her lack of remorse is scary, but until we know exactly what she has to be remorseful for, how can we judge? Even a sociopath can grieve the loss of their own daughter, and she isn’t even doing that.
oldmotheroftoddlers.
If you read the above definitiion these people are very maniplating. The turn you into a victim. I THink M has run and controlled that family for ever. I have a teenager he can manipulate me to where i don’t even think I am being fair with his punishment… and he is not a sociopath. THey are all vicims of M.. a Friend of the family had commented in an interivew that C was acting more like the distraught mother than M. I think she was the protector and nurturer. Seveal comments M has made.. lIke why is everything always about Caylee. and stuff that she thought and was angry that she didn’t come first. hence ther narcisitic part. (i know I spelled that badly) I do believe at some point G c should have put a stop to do it. But from what I have gathered the bulk of the problem just game outat once. The money taken from Grandpa was the fight they had just before she left with Caylee and then no more Caylee. The parents thought she was going to work, when they saw her she was good to Caylee, it wasn’t until after the fact that so much info has come out showing us this side of M. I bet they hadn’t seen it either. Notiably there have been no one from her past that I have her make statemeents to police or to media saying how messed up or trouble she was in school. Lee seems normal enough. at least to me.
I am afraid that her personal life as a 22 year old mother wasn’t textbook, but I can say honestly, in my opinion, this partying and kickin it with her friends is kinda standard nowadays. I was partying it up at 22, thankfully I had a family that was there for me and my child so I could get that young person out instead of letting resentment build from having my first son young. Support goes a long way. But control and support are two different things.
What a great point, chryvine. Let’s say Caylee was stolen by Zanny; why isnt she freaking the **** out. I would be, you would be, even my acoholic neighbor would be if it were our child. That is one of the reason this facsinates me. I just cant wrap my head around it.
I’m going to hit the hay! Chat with you all tomorrow!
Thank you for the wonderful chat!
I also was wondering about her past. I had thought I had seen or read that Cindy said that Casey was a half a credit away from graduating high school. I really dont believe that. Why didnt she graduate? Yes, I think the control was going on for a very very long time. I would love to her from people in her past. C’s past too. I believe C’s brother blogged that C’s was just like Casey growing up.
Thank you, Amy. Have a good night.
did any of you read the definition of sociopath that I looked up wanted to know what you thought in reference to M
Read definition and whole-heartedly see Casey in it. And C too. Lee seems normal, what’s up with that?
Sociopaths seem normal until exposure. That’s part of the danger. Yet I still believe that we would being excusing her actions. I will assume she is responsible for her actions until proven otherwise. Defense would love to use mental illness as an excuse.
He just has down played hings alot. I think he supports his parents but I think he believes his sister is guilty. From interviews I have read and heard of his he has along along repeated anything he was told by G C or momster. I was pointing out that if this is something that was caused by C 7G as some people believe then wouldn’t Lee seems just as crazy. The supposedly the name of Caylee’s dad was really Eric James Baker. IF you believe what Casey said.
I don’t think it qualifies as mental illness she knows its not right to Kill she just does it because she believes she is above the law. that doesn’t qualify as mental illness. soicopath. With no hope of rehabilitation there are not much choices for them.
Well if he was molesting Casey, he may not have been molesting Lee. But thats all an “IF”
But then why wouldn’t M have moved out as soon as she could… Why contiue living in the same house with him. But I do unerstand the what if theory. May the sick grandfather when she was little, uncle or something maybe, teacher at school, but there are lots of girls that are molested and even raped and they don’t become MOMster. Please take this in the tone i meant. There are more questions right now for all of us than answers . I am tossing out other possible senrios and am by no meas minimizing or critizing yours. I just wish we could solve the puzzle and find peace for Caylee and everyone esle who deserves it.
Absolutely by no means do I want to exsonerate (sp?) Casey from any responsibility relating to the death of Caylee. Having said that I cannot bring myself to refer to her as a monster. Down to the core of my being I believe that all humanbeings are born “good”. It is our environment that shapes us. I just want to know what happened? What went wrong with Casey. What did she do to Caylee? How in the world could C and G believe anything that came out of Casey’s mouth. And chryvine, I partied it up until my mid thirties, and was fortunate to have experienced that as an independent single childless woman. I then was blessed with children and the wisdom to put all of that behind me and to realize that the most important priority was my children. I admire your honesty and I could not have been a healthy parent in my twenties. Kudos to you and the people that gave you support.
I find this to be lively and intesting and not at all do I feel any critism. Hope you all feel the same. Agreed too that many children are molested and do not cause the death of their own children. I also believe that Casey knows right from wrong but does believe that she will never be caught, i.e. smarter than LE and/or is above the law.
oldmomoftoddlerboys
I think we are in agreement and i find this site therapuetic because my son gets sick of hearing me talk about it so much. It’s nice to have a place where people feel just as moved by all this. If they find Caylee, then that have to prove the she exclusively had motive, oppurtunirty. That is why she starts spinnng the story about her Dad using the car nad then it smelled bad. She was setting him up to take the rap… so she could have Cindy under her control. G was trying to get my to stop getting in the way of M taking her consequences. I think that was whatthe almost divorce between G c was all about.
Please don’t forget that Cindy is not the most believable person. I am afraid she is no more honest than her daughter. With that in mind, the possibility of “some truth” in some of the stories is there. Cindy first lied about the last date Caylee was seen, I find it hard to believe that she would forget Father’s Day with her grandbaby. I think the last date she was seen was one of the NOST important pieces of evidence.
That makes so much sense! I would love to know what was going on with that divorce deal. I also was think that Casey was drugging Caylee to keep her out of the way. Possibly, she over dossed her and caused her death, it might have been accidental. Not that drugging your child to keep her quiet is accidental, just giving her too much is.
gone are the days of cough syrup. Welcome to the world of chloroform!
Does anyone believe G when he said he saw Casey and Caylee monday after father’s day? And why hasnt LE released G’s taped interviews? I think G has or is withholding key evidence. Thoughts?
lol, chryvine
Cindy didn’t seem to lie about that. She was confused when she was asked a month later. She said it was Father’s day but she said the wrong date. They voluntarily turned over the computer that had the vido of the grandpa at the nursing home with Caylee. Just a week or two before They dad was sick and she thought she might lose him, then after the visit with Grandpa that is where the money M stole from Cindy’s Parents came up. Back home they have a big fight and the the next day Casey leaves for “work” and then just leaves, makes excuses for a month avbout where she and Caylee are. By the time the police ask C 31 days later when she last saw Caylee she says June9 because that was when she thought she was with her dad. She was only off by 1 weekend. I don’t think that was a lie it was confusion and trying to go back and remember. I don’t think the date would have stuck out because until after they know they will never see her again they didn’t realize the signifence of the moment. I think she is asking more like I would aspect the mother to be. So upset and irradic.
Just popped in for a moment before calling it a night. Read all your good comments and see several people I haven’t ‘met’.
I am Gumshoe and have been blogging about Caylee since the first article Jan wrote on this site. Have followed the case from the first day, read all the documents, listened to all the sudios, watched all the videos, seen Greta, Nancy Grace, Geraldo, and Dr. Phil shows on the case. I watch the web cam in front of the Anthony’s house when anything is going on. I recieve breaking news on the case in my personal inbox. I haven’t missed much from the start.
I am, I guess, obsessed with the fact that a 2 year old little girl was missing (dead) for a month before anyone knew. I despise people who commit crimes of this nature and make it so hard to find evidence to convict them.
But I have faith in LE that Caylee will have justice and that Casey will pay for her crime.
Nice to ‘meet’ you all.
BTW, is anyone else cleaning up toys this time at night and letting the dishes go until tomorrow? Because I am.
I have heard G taped interview nad he seemed forth right to me. He even voluntarily tells them that the smell set off warning bells for him. Do you have media player. do a websearch for George anthony interview and it will take you to his interview. But it is a waeb link so you use your own mediia player . He makesa reference to how bazaree this whole thing is getting.
Nice to meet you too, Gumshoe.
Thanks for info. So the men in this family seem somewhat normal, G and even helpful to LE, Lee. What is up with mother/daughter dynamic? And agree that C plays role of mom of Caylee much more than Casey. I also think that she was just confused on dates, not trying to be decietful.
C a C, I think C actually did go to see her father at the assisted living on Sunday, the 8th. But she went alone that day I think. (I believe this info is on the video released last week of her interview with LE) So when she stated that it was the 9th that she last saw Caylee, she was talking about the next day (Monday)
All of that actually happened the NEXT weekend on Sunday the 15th and next day (Monday) the 16th.
But since Casey first said (and still does I guess) that she dropped off Caylee with Zenaida on June 9, Cindy just automatically thought June 9 was the day after Father’s Day because she knew she had Caylee herself on father’s Day.
I wonder how Baez will fix that part of Casey’s story?
sorry C 4 C, I called you C a C, which is Concerned ABOUT Caylee, another blogger.
Makes sense, automatically C agrees with Casey that its the 9th because she goes along with what Casey says. How will that be explained by the defense is such an interesting question. Imagine how many (hundreds!) of decrepancies the prosocution will point out to a jury. Maybe even more.
I think that M has always craved being the center of attention and after Caylee was born she apparently wasn’t anymore. I believe C was very angry with her points of telling lies, and stealing money, taking her credit card and running up the bills, but I bet everytime mom would kick her out M would threaten to take Caylee and you will never see her again. That would always stop C because she loves that child. When M had a guy to replace them mom attention she no longer needed C so she leaves her but doesn’t want to her to have Caylee because she can’t be allowed to have anyone she loves more than M.
One thing that I still keep going over is: She said “I dropped her off between 9 and 1pm on July 9″
What mother doesn’t know what time she dropped her child off on any given day? Of course she also said she “got off work, drove back to pick up Caylee” when she didn’t even ahve a job.
Interesting to me still is: 9am to 1pm is the exact time that Tony said he had classes every day.
Well I am unsure that day will ever come. I have been reading about Florida cases where they waited years to prosecute based on finding of bodies and if they find her body, casey will have no choice but to confess in exchange for avoiding death penalty. Seeing that in a few cases here. It’s common. Actually seeing quite a bit of guilty pleas in exchange for LWOP instead of death.
Thoughts on if maybe Casey was in denile of dead Caylee and had her in the trunk for awhile?
I agree. I also find it hard to believe that she has no one helping her? I would think she would want someone to help with the messier parts of this. If she in fact search missing children sites months before Caylee ever disappeared, and researched Chloform on her computer and searched for the name Zenida that is premeditated period not even accidental. Alo I have heard that (not sure where) that they had went through M high school year book and found kids by the names she is using but all mixed up. Like there was a zenida but not Gonzales. Rosale Gonzales. Juilet and some one else named Lewis. If that is true then these people were manufactured in advance. I question whether it is a plot to look insane so to get off. If that’s true she couldn’t have accidently done it.
chryvine, I don’t think Casey will ever admit to anything–not even if evidence ( a body) is placed right in her face. She will simply blame it on someone else. She told LE she was sticking to her story and she will, no matter what they have against her.
To admit that she had anything to do with Caylee’s death, would be to potentially lose Cindy’s (and Gerorge and Lee’s too)support and attention. And that was the reason to get rid of Caylee in the first place—to become #1 with Cindy again.
There are cases where people block things out if they are too much to accept. The human brain does weird things to protect us from trauma. See alot of these weird stories on Discovery channel. However, her lawyer would not have made that comment concerning her best interests if she honestly blocked it out. But it does happen. Mostly in children I think.
This is the 1st time I’m on this link. I just happened to glance at this link, but I must say, what Simon wrote, is what alot of people feel !! Yes, OBSTRUCTION IS WHEN CINDY SAID THE CAR SMELLED LIKE DEATH, BUT THEN CINDY WASHED CASEY’S PANTS, & WHATEVER ELSE CINDY DID TO COVER-UP FOR CASEY !! Than changed her statement about the CAR SMELL COULD BE THE 12 DAY OLD PIZZA IN THE CAR !! Does anyone know if the strand of hair the cops found in the was ever tested for DRUGS, Like the CLOROFORM !!?? This whole situation is sooo HEART WRENCHING !! WE THE PUBLIC, HAVE MORE HEART & SOUL FOR CAYLEE, THEN CASEY WILL EVER HAVE !!!!
The chance of the Death Penalty has a way with making people rethink.
Whoever blogged about FL law and however many days that they had to proscute after charges were filed was eye opening. I think they are going to get her on other charges and are just buying time to get as as much as they can on her so that they can charge her with murder and make it stick. I do believe that day will come. There is just too much public outcry for nothing to happen.
Hi, MaMaMia.
chryvine, you are right. IF Baez can convince her that’s where she’s headed, she may very well rethink.
DO you think she killed her sister? or her daughter? If in fact people are right in saying Caylee is georges, that would make her a sister as well as daughter, how did she see her when it came to the jealousy?
I can see Casey talking if it saves her from the death penalty. Now what she will says will not be the truth.
In exchange for lesser sentence they will make sure her testimony is varifiable or she will get no deal. That I am pretty sure of. If it doesn’t pan out….no deal.
Lets say M is blocking out the Caylee has died and what she did with the body. She should still be upset and afriad if she doesn’t know where her child is. The attorney also making a statement like”it is not in my clients best interst to tell where Calee is. is a pretty big stupid statment. Because it implies guilt.
HYPNOSIS!
Interesting comment, about getting rid of Caylee so that Casey would be #1 with C. I did read that some witness stated that Casey and C were becoming closer before Caylee’s disapperanc? Is that right?
I don’t know that it mattered to her about the jealousy–only that she used to be #1 in Cindy’s eyes, Cindy had become disappointed in her and threw it up to her (in front of people like Jesse) that she didn’t finish school, didn’t have a job, wasn’t a good mother (she told Lee), etc.. while at the same time she was so proud of Caylee, spending money and all her attention on her.
I think when Cindy confronted her on June 15 about the money issues ( stealing from grandparents) and did what the counselor told her to do (kick her out and try to get custody of Caylee) then put her hands around Casey’s neck as if to strangle her, that Casey just decided she wanted to get back at Cindy. Since it was too hard to kill Cindy (her first choice?) she killed the person Cindy loved most.
HI !!! To ALL.. I just hope that there is enough evidence to convict CASEY, That she doesn’t get OFF !!
oldmom, that’s correct.
yes one of the boyfriends said that…maybe Jesse. and that M maternal insticts tended to shut down. I am guessing that M felt inadequate to care for her own daught watching someone else do it. And her calls from jail were is that all you care about Caylee. ? Speaks volumes to me about where she is. its all Casey all the time. Where as C is fantic, desperate, stupid and willing to say do or believe anything if she thinks it will conclude with Caylee comning home alive. In her interview she even tells the police I dont care where Casey is at I just want to find Caylee.
Did C really put her hands around Casey’s neck? I never heard that