Orange County Sheriff Kevin Beary has described Casey Anthony as one of the toughest individuals that he has ever run into. Casey is the only person that authorities have named as a suspect in the disappearance of her daughter, Caylee Anthony. She has done nothing but handed investigators a string of lies when asked about the whereabouts of her daughter.
Local 6’s Mike Holfeld talked to Beary and he said that his lead detective Sgt. John Allen has described Casey’s attitude.
“I’ve had some very experienced people working on this case and Sgt. John Allen is one of those,” Beary said. “Sgt Allen said that’s one that’s of the toughest individuals he’s ever come in contact with when it comes to attitude and as you called the poker face.”
“In your heart do you believe Caylee is gone, is she dead?” asked Mike Holfeld.
“Well my dad-instinct says you never want to give up,” said Beary. “But by the way the evidence is looking, that’s probably what’s going to be how down the road.”
“She’s gone?” Holfeld asked.
“She’s gone,” Beary said. “Everyday that passes, everything in your gut instinct tells you we’re not going to find that child, at least not alive.”
Speaking of the evidence they have including the traces of chloroform and DNA pointing to a body in the vehicle and also the hair that was found in the trunk, “You know, we know that something’s wrong, We know something happened and that’s why we are still building the evidential case for the future.”
He said that the evidence they have now could play a criminal court showdown with Casey according to Holfeld’s report.
“Is it possible, speaking of the future that we could see here brought to justice without a body being found?” asked Holfeld.
“Well, Florida has laws on the books like that,” answered Beary. “I think before anybody does anything, the state attorney, the sheriff’s office, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement and the FBI will make sure that if that is the scenario, we will have all our ducks in a row for a good solid case.”
Beary also said that additional evidence is coming in but he has asked that the investigators not brief him about it until they are ready to release it. He said too that he is hopeful that the case will come to a close before he leaves office in less than three months.
Meanwhile Texas Equusearch could possibly be returning to Orlando to start the search for Caylee again soon. Mandy Albritton said they will be working on a case in North Carolina and they plan to return to Orlando after that. Kevin Beary has made it pretty clear that he would really like it if they would come back and resume their search.
I hope they do return because I think if anyone can find Caylee they can if they can only get the right support. That trust fund the Anthony’s have going to help find Caylee should be going to Equusearch to help the financially to do the search. Of course though, that is my own opinion.
I just wish Caylee Anthony would be found so she can be at peace herself. This is all about Caylee, not her selfish mother who refuses to tell the police anything about where she is because as in her own lawyer’s words, “It is not in my clients best interest to tell what she knows.”
That statement alone makes me sick to my stomach to be honest. All this time all we have heard was how much Casey really loved her daughter and how much she wanted her to be found. Well this doesn’t sound to me like a mother that is worried about her daughter. It sounds to me like this is proof that she is only worried about saving her own butt and the hell with what happened to Caylee now.
Caylee the world has not forgotten you and we all love you. May God be with you sweetie.
Jan Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a Trackbackthankyou jan once again for these posts and the world has not forgotten caylee and never will and justice will be got for her. how does that monster sleep at night with what she has done and that lawyer statement that it isnt in his clients interest to tell what she knows about caylee,what a piece of scum,he also has blood on his hands for not revealing what she has told him.
Thank you Jan and Simon for so many great posts and articles in behalf of little Caylee Marie Anthony. So many of us share yours and Simon’s views and appreciate you providing these blogs for us to gather to mourn Caylee.
You said:
“That statement alone makes me sick to my stomach to be honest. All this time all we have heard was how much Casey really loved her daughter and how much she wanted her to be found. Well this doesn’t sound to me like a mother that is worried about her daughter. It sounds to me like this is proof that she is only worried about saving her own butt and the hell with what happened to Caylee now.”
***exactly.
hi gumshoe,i too feel that jan has stated exactly how we all feel and how heartbraking that a beautiful little girl could be let down so badly by the one person who should be her protector.
Thanks again for another exceptional blog Jan.
Maybe Casey doesn’t care if Caylee is found, but who cares what Casey thinks anyway?
Contrary to the Tupac quote, it is still in everyone’s best interest to pick up the pieces and determine what happened. BTW, is he in Bartletts now?
One of my favorite quotes is:
When a problem comes along you must whip it…whip it good!-Devo
Simon has a new blog too, excellent article:
bloggernews.net/118028
“The Casey Anthony Story–An Editor’s View”
Oct. 4
Don’t make me come after you all.
Don’t make me come after you all.
** sorry that was supposed to go to the old blog. I’ll go back and round up the others.
Thank you Jan.
thanks gumshoe what a brillant post by simon, and his feeling of locking up the whole family was excellant!
OK, left both links for the others. Hopefully, they will migrate here.
minnie, I have loved all Jan’s and Simon’s articles. They say what I want to say.
what about if Caylee was put in a suitcase,
at some point anyway, would make things a bit more difficult to find “her” i doubt she weighed much over 30 pounds, of that.. she was teeny.
i am also going over to Simon’s blog for a few, so who will post where lol
anyway then back to work.
Is this where we are moving to now?
If so could someone return to the previous article about the 911 call and let everyone know?
Agreed - anyone such as baez, motivated strictly only by greed and power, low enough to make money off a murdered child is nothing more than a licensed criminal! Like everyone else, what really gets me is that the entire anthony bunch have been glorified and treated like celeb’s instead of the non-caring trash that they really are. There’s the buck-toothed arrogant whore running the streets daily while hardworking taxpayers and law enforcement officials are diligently searching for answers. Playing the psycho game effectively. Possibly sociopath, but obviously intelligent enough to mislead even the best of the best. End the B.S. now.
M. was smart not to bury Caylee’s favorite doll. If may come back to haunt her that she didn’t get rid of the doll somewhere else or burn it.
minnie, I would like to see at least Cindy locked up until she could figure out that misleading police is about the same as out-right lying. I don’t care what her motives are–grieving grandmother, sad mother, whatever—she is a grown woman standing in the way of investigators and has been from the start. She has given out false statements, stupid ideas about what ‘might’ have happened to cause a smell, and has defended Casey to the end KNOWING that she alone caused Caylee’s disappearance, if not death.
I cannot feel sorry for her. If she would go as far as to wrap her hands around Casey’s neck in a fit of rage, where the %$#& does she think Casey learned how to kill in her own fit of rage?
yes flash - agreed.
Flash,
Very well said, are you new to this blog?
mytwocents, I already went to the old blog and rounded everyone up. Left the link, the title and date of article, and # of article.
gumshoe,
Your so thoughtful, sweetheart.
Catherine, I don’t want any of us to get lost from each other.
*not even damdak even if he does make me leave while he is b*&^%$NK.
That’s for sure.
Gumshoe,
You know you love our Dak.
CJ,
Weight of Caylee was reported at 35 lbs.
That most stupidest remark by BB leaves no doubt that Caylee is dead.
If Caylee would be alive ,it would be in his client’s interest to show her cards.
Catherine, pfffffttttt!
CJ,
Yes, it was a stupid comment. Maybe he wants to get fired. LOL
gumshoe, Lmao
May God be with Caylee now. The Anthony family failed this child. I’m with Gumshoe on this one, that violence seems to be part of this family’s way of communicating. Watch George yelling at protesters outside of his home!
Beth,
It is heartbreaking to watch this family being torn apart by a monster.
yes gumshoe i agree,at the beginning when i first knew of this case i realy felt for the family but very quickly that soon dissapeared with all of their lies,denial of what m has done and especialy cindy trying to blame everyone else for what has happened to caylee.
The debate of that statement, “client’s best interest” is WHO CARES WHAT HER BEST INTEREST IS? SHE IS ALIVE AND WELL AND LOVING EVER IOTA OF ATTENTION SHE IS GETTING.
CAYLEE IS DEAD AND WILL NEVER ENJOY ONE MORE BREATH. WHAT IS IN THE BEST INTEREST OF A MURDERED CHILD WHO SCREAMS FROM THE DARK CORNERS OF THE EARTH FOR JUSTICE?
Casey is no victim. And I for one am so sick of Baez and Cindy and George and Lee portraying her as a helpless victim, shrouded in speculation as a murderer. D%$#, if you don’t want to be called a murderer, then DON’T KILL YOUR CHILD!
G. & C. loved Caylee very much there mistake was trying to mold M. into being a responsible mother to her cild. C. should have gone for custody of Caylee a long time ago, and kicked her daughter out of the house.
Hi everyone!
Just some of my thoughts here…
I believe that monster was planning to kill Caylee (M searching Chloroform and missing children websites is my clue) long before Cindy yelled at Casey on the 15th of June. I think monster was simply waiting for the opportunity to do her sinful deed when the argument arose and triggered monster’s evilness. All sociopaths don’t kill, monster is the most severe type of sociopath, which to my understanding is a psychopath. She’s an empty shell with no feeling whatsoever, she is truly a monster who happens to live in a pretty woman’s body.
I don’t think Jesse even realizes that all their time together was simply an act on m’s part. From what Jesse said he believes monster started acting strange at the end of their relationship. I think he can’t see the forest for the trees.
Monster disguised herself to be the woman Jesse wanted. She knew she had to act like a homebody, love sports, love family life, go to church, etc. She was the chameleon he talks about. But, even now he wants so much to believe that during their courtship, Casey was the loving mother he believed her to be.
Writing that made me realize that if Jesse is having a difficult time accepting the fact that m was evil during there courtship, why wouldn’t her parents experience the same feelings and stay in denial. (Sadly, for Caylee, I don’t think the Anst will ever come out of that denial either.)
Catherine, if C had gotten custody of Caylee, what would have made her raise her any differently than she raised Casey? What would have kept her from putting her hands around Caylee’s neck when Caylee did something wrong?
Sure, C loved and cherished Caylee as a small child, innocent and blameless—but what about when Caylee grew into a teen, spoiled like Casey, bailed out time and time again–would C be able to handle the Caylee she herself raised? Or would she have yet another Casey on her hands?
IMO, Caylee never had a chance in life with any of the Ant’s.
also im no lawyer but that statement he said that it wasnt in his clients best interest to say what she knows?hello cause then it would be straight to jail with no more get outa jail cards,and to make a statement like that as simon wrote in his post is just to infuriate people like us who want the truth for caylee
Hi MMT.
Do you think it’s possible her parents ignored M. totally after Caylee was born, and therefore didn’t see any signs of her mental state. I know they knew she lied and stole, but did they ever know her state of mind?
gumshoe,
Point well taken.
Don’t all gang up on me, I just threw that out there.
Catherine, the profile of a sociopath, from several bloggers researches, says that signs (or ‘red flags’) start around age 16. They would have seen lying, stealing, blaming others, acting out (and I believe in casey’s case promiscuity) LONG before Caylee was born.
I think after Caylee was bornb, there was someone else to take theiur mind off Casey and how she had failed. It was apparently a BIG thing to C that she didn’t graduate and held piddly jobs, if any (i.e. Jesse’s statement) I think a new baby in the house, C being right at past the age to have any more children, made C feel young and motherly and made her totally forget that Casey was acting like an idiot.
I don’t ever mean to ‘gang up’ on anybody here, especially you, Catherine. I do get passionate in my opinions, tho, and don’t mind being refuted. (if it’s done gently lol)
gumshoe,
So, are you saying that C. did ignore M.’s behavior?
yessireebob, Catherine–I am agreeing with you.
I didn’t say gang up literally. I just thought my post may have sounded like I was giving an excuse for M’s behavior therefore, I was feeling sorry for her. Please be assured that I have not one drop of pity inside me for that monster.
*Catherine, Yes, this is the first time I’ve been to your site. Again, this thing is just about the most bizarre situation any of us have heard of. And I’m not overlooking the fact that horrific child abuse crimes are being committed daily (sometimes by family members, sometimes not). But in many, maybe not most, the perpetrator is identified, charged and prosecuted; cut and dry, over and out! But this scenario is by, far more intriguing. Here you have a homely looking loser being chased like a dog in heat, laughing, lying, sucking up all the male attention. Ever notice how she wobbles that butt for the camera, glancing around.
Do I believe that a “criminal” suddenly ‘loses it’ and does whatever he/she does? No. She created what she thought was a clever opportunity to accomplish what she had always wanted to. I look at the photo of that little girl, thinking, she deserved a chance to grow up and be loved. No one had the right to harm or destroy her. Agreeing with someone else who commented, Caylee MUST have had a really good looking dad because that scaly-looking whore looks she has been her witch garb for a long time! Makes me puke.
Oh, ok. Sorry,
I need to make a skinny vanila latte. My mind is getting tired.
“Stage 4: Black putrefaction - 10 to 20 days after death
The pig’s body has collapsed with black exposed surfaces and creamy flesh. Photo: R. Major
State of decay
The bloated body eventually collapses, leaving a flattened body whose flesh has a creamy consistency. The exposed parts of the body are black in colour and there is a very strong smell of decay.
A large volume of body fluids drain from the body at this stage and seep into the surrounding soil. Other insects and mites feed on this material.
The insects consume the bulk of the flesh and the body temperature increases with their activity. Bacterial decay is still very important, and bacteria will eventually consume the body if insects are excluded.
Insect activity
By this stage, several generations of maggots are present on the body and some have become fully grown. They migrate from the body and bury themselves in the soil where they become pupae. Predatory maggots are much more abundant at this stage, and the pioneer flies cease to be attracted to the corpse. Predatory beetles lay their eggs in the corpse and their larvae then hatch out and feed on the decaying flesh. Parasitoid wasps are much more common, laying their eggs inside maggots and pupae.”
This which i excerpted from the previous posts link to decomposition is the stage i believe Caylee was in when her monster mom placed her in the trunk of her own car …and which all the evidence points to, sigh…
bbl
Hi Catherine!
I’m tring to do a couple things here and got sidetracked.To answer you question…
In my opinion… I think Cindy both spoiled m and was hard on her all at the same time. She would probably yell degrading things at her then turn around and take her to the mall to shop for pretty things.
I don’t think it was as simple as C ignoring M at any time. M’s type of personality disorder starts building as an infant and then starts showing up somewhere between 13 and 15 years old.
Because of what C stated to someone, that M is a sociopath, I believe C recognized every symptom. She may have even had M in therapy at one time. We’ll probably find out at the murder trial.
Flash,
Well don’t hold back. Your posts are very interesting. Your writing style reminds me of another blogger. Are you a female?
i think all of ants ignored the warning signs with m behavior,cindy had caylee as a replacment daughter and sadly they will pay the price for the rest of their lives,caylee paid with hers.
I absolutely ahve to get some housework done. The kitchen sink is absolutely the last place I saw my dishes. I dropped them off there and the sink is the last thing I saw my dishes with. So I have to go for now. Because…their..my..dishes..and I actually want to go take care of them because I have been here on this blog on a f&^%$*& whim. And they’ve already said if they don’t get washed, they’re gonna pin this on me.
BBL peeps
MMT,
Thank you for replying.
Bye, gumshoe
MMT - agree with you on factors that led to casey’s serious mental issues. However, I wonder if the tendency towards this type mental discrepancy could be partly an inherited trait. Cindy is clearly psychologically dysfunctional, i.e. obviously has continued to believe her own lies. As far as sympathy, none here. To have cleverly designed this entire scenario, as “mommy dearest” did, and as the parents pacified (assisted dearest in concealing the facts), the three of them should be tried and convicted. As casey showed no suggestion of emotion, sadness, fear, etc. neither did her parents. Instead of acting like she had some sense, cindy called the cops, ranting about her “daughter” having “stolen a car.” They are all skilled in the art of deception and have exhibited no sign of human concern.
Catherine - Yes, female.
Flash,
I do think C. was the only one that showed any emotion when she found out Caylee was missing.
Flash,
Are you from Florida?
Catherine - I feel Cindy was only reacting to a horrible truth she may have already feared would happen.
Hi guys! Had to take a break…I am exhausted from all the outdoor work. Got the pool almost done, covered and winterized all the hotrods for the winter…and there is still more yet to do.
Flash,
Yes, I do agree with you.
No, I am not from nor have ever lived in Florida.
Hi Kris,
You must be exhausted.
I SECOND EVERY WORD GUMS,
“Gumshoe said,in October 4th, 2008 at 1:13 pm minnie, I would like to see at least Cindy locked up until she could figure out that misleading police is about the same as out-right lying. I don’t care what her motives are–grieving grandmother, sad mother, whatever—she is a grown woman standing in the way of investigators and has been from the start. She has given out false statements, stupid ideas about what ‘might’ have happened to cause a smell, and has defended Casey to the end KNOWING that she alone caused Caylee’s disappearance, if not death.
I cannot feel sorry for her. If she would go as far as to wrap her hands around Casey’s neck in a fit of rage, where the %$#& does she think Casey learned how to kill in her own fit of rage?”
hi to everyone not ignoring your posts BUT have grandson here and company coming soon so here little for now between cleaning etc.-
I believe Casey is a sociopath who planned to kill not only Caylee but Cindy and George. She told Amy her parents were getting a divorce and giving her the house. Amy and Casey were planning on moving in the Anthony house the week Caylee went missing.
I think what went wrong was that Cindy got in such a rage over Casey wiping out her father’s assisting living bank account on Father’s Day that she “choked her out” as Padilla said.
That made Casey realize Cindy would fight back if she tried to kill her. Caylee would not. So she decided to just leave the house and her parents, kill Caylee and then be free to room with Amy and party and sleep with whomever would have her.
I think Cindy is a codependent who had children so that they would love her and fill the “empty hole in her soul.” Casey, being a sociopath is incapable of loving Cindy so Cindy felt rejected.
I do believe that because Caylee returned her love, Cindy rejected Casey and that made Casey hate Caylee as well as Casey. I believe Casey “acted” like a good mother in front of her mother, Jesse and all of her friends and they were all fooled.
I think Cindy was in denial about her daughter being a sociopath but in the back of her mind she knew she was. That’s why she told one of Casey’s friends she was a sociopath and to stay away from her.
It’s important to remember that when Casey told Jesse he was Caylee’s father they weren’t even dating and he wasn’t in love with her. Jesse had dated Casey for two weeks in January, then broke it off because she was telling him she loved him and moving too fast. He was only 18 and she was 19.
In May she showed up at the Grund home six months pregnant and told Jesse she had female problems but wasn’t pregnant. In June, she text messaged Jesse that she was pregnant and he was the father.
Being a good Christian boy he wanted to do the right thing so he agreed to marry her and be a father to Caylee. However, when Caylee was born in August, he realized he couldn’t be the father because he didn’t know her in Decembe when Caylee was conceived. He took a paternity test and he discovered he wasn’t the father. By that time he was in love with Casey and Caylee and agree to marry Casey anyway and continue as Caylee’s father.
I think Jesse overlooked Casey’s faults because he wanted to be a husband and father at this point. Now he is saying she changed because he doesn’t want to admit to the whole world he was a fool in love. I think he was in love with Caylee and not Casey.
I think Jesse stayed in Casey’s life because he worried about Caylee’s safety but wouldn’t even admit it to himself. If Jesse tells the world he loved a sociopath that would make him look like a fool so he says she changed.
Same with Cindy. If she admits her daughter is a sociopath who murdered her own child, that makes her a bad mother and grandmother.
Flash,
Oh, ok sorry I was just curious where you were from?
Catherine…I’m completely wiped out right now. I feel like I’m getting a head cold being outside this long… my immune system is shot from all the surgeries. It was fun though watching the kittens in the yard… we had about 13 baby turkeys come in the yard from the woods and the kittens tried to stalk them. When the turkeys spotted them moving closer they ganged up (all 13) and started chasing the cats away…It was hysterical! lol.
Catherine… sorry, I guess I didn’t answer your question correctly.
What I meant was I don’t think C could ignore what M was doing… I think C didn’t know how to deal with the issues so she simply believe M’s lies, apologized for M’s mistakes and paid back some of the money M stole.
Kris,
I bet your daughter was having fun watching that.
Yes she did…the turkeys weren’t even scared of us (because they’re too young I think to know better)…but the kittens were like “Oh sh*@t” when the prey turned the tables..My gut still hurts from laughing!
I wonder where Dak is? Always curious to see what he has to say about the case.
What do you think about the article from the sheriff I posted the link to earlier? He is hoping within the next 3 months before he leaves office, that’s what it stated. My god I was hoping for an arrest like within the next week…Maybe we’re off on the timing.
Kris,
Yes, three months to have the entire case wrapped up seems like an eternity.
Maybe he (Dak) has gone out…or he could just be peeking! I’m sure he’ll be in later, he always turns up when we least expect him.
Texas EquuSearch Returning To Orlando
Saturday, October 04, 2008 1:57:28 AM
ORLANDO — Texas Eqqusearch could be back in the city as early as the end of next week to restart the search for Caylee.
Equusearch Deputy Director Mandy Albritton said they will be working on a case in North Carolina. Then they plan to come back to Orlando.
Albritton said Sheriff Kevin Beary has made it very clear that he wants Texas Equusearch to come back and finish the job.
I’m happy about the OJ verdict….It’s like Karma..bet the Goldmans are glad too. Now we just need to concentrate on this arrogant bimbo down in Fla.
Well, I have a 4:30 appointment for a manicure so, I will talk with you all later.
Kris,
Go take a bubble bath, you deserve it!
Gumshoe..That’s good news, although I was hoping they found something already. Maybe it’s because of the new info of her being spotted coming out of the wooded area by a witness, and Equasearch has all the proper equipment to narrow it down.
I smell like I need one too…LOL!
By…Catherine.
I don’t know Kris. That ‘3 months’ quote threw me, too. Apparently we are all way off with thinking an arrest was very soon. I don’t know now how this plays into the Nov 17 court date. That’s only a month away. And she has a court date in Oct. for some of the charges. The 8th? maybe.
I was hoping for tuesday…that was my pick in the lottery pool for dates. I thought they would take the weekend to unwind, come in monday discuss the plan of arrest and tuesday go pick her up. I am still holding out hope.
In the previous blog, flowerchild said “I wonder why Koblinsky would go to the defense side instead of prosecutions side, seemed like he would go that way.
My answer is for the money! Defense attorneys pay BIG BUCKS to entice experts to be on their defense team and believe me, they expect loyalty for the price they pay.
The first day that NG addressed Kobi as being on the defense’s payroll, I noticed the disappointment in her voice and eyes. It sounds like Kobi was a long time acquaintance of hers who she highly respected. I’m not too sure that she feels the same way about him now. Also, Kobi may have a contract to be on so many shows,so NG is not able to simply drop him off the show. Plus, without having too much new information on this case and finding it difficult to have new guest to interview, NG needs to use who she can. I’m just surprised that it’s not a conflict of interest for Kobi.
I’m sure that in the past NG has been offered BIG bucks to become a defense attorney, but she can’t sell her soul to the devil, so to speak.
So, regardless of how much you like Kobi… sadly, it’s all about money.
Do you know what date that is for court in October? I was thinking maybe they would do it after the court when she was leaving the building and just slap the cuffs on her then.
Hang onto your date. My date was yesterday and it passed with no arrest. I am not discouraged though. Still hopeful every day that this is the day.
It just seems like it is taking so long…I feel she doesn’t deserve to be out at all. Even if she feels like a prisoner in her own home…she whines about it, too bad she doesn’t even deserve that…total boredom day in, and day out is what she needs to think about her actions and what she has done.
Although sociopathic people seem not to have any souls, maybe time thinking would only serve to turn into self pity.
Gonna go take a shower, then give a bath to the little one…she is filthy from being outside. Will stop back in later…by everyone.
Kris, I think it was the 9th but I don’t think she has to show up for the next court date.
Kris, you are right when saying… “ Total boredom day in, and day out is what she needs.”
Boredom is the worst enemy of a sociopath. Boredom is what leads them to self destruction, as it did monster.
But, you’ll never get monster to think about her actions. That’s why she was so angry when she called home from jail and everyone was asking her questions about Caylee. In her mind it was as if Caylee never existed. She never wanted to hear her name again. She just wanted to talk to people who she thought she could laugh and have fun with… remember… “Give me Tony’s number”
Anyway, the best we can hope for is 60 to 70 years for her to sit in a cell bored!
Koblinski might have come cheap. Afterall, he surely must have a lot of professional/curious interest in this case. Plus it will also insure him of future paid appareances on a talking head show..
MMT - I’m sure money plays a big part in it but Kobilinsky has been a major player on TV as a “top forensics scientist” so I think that his professional curiosity is piqued AND the experience can only add to his TV image! A win-win for him.
I’m sure he’s really excited to be part of this especially since it’s the first time that air samples might be used in court. He’s probably so anxious to get in there and see all the evidence first hand that he’d pay for it himself - but of course he won’t have to.
But who is? Where is all this money for M’s defense coming from? Someone asked earlier about a defense fund having been set up long ago but then not heard of since. Or is the same “anonymous” source that paid for her bail and PR firm and investigators? Wish we knew!
And that’s one reason I am glad that Zenaida is suing. Her bulldog attorney is going after the money so there is at least one person sniffing out who’s getting paid for what! Hopefully we’ll find out too eventually.
Where is
Sorry- the “where is” was a goof.
is this kobilinsky guy a coup for the defence and why would someone whom appears to be respected do something like this?[being in ireland cant see ur tv shows]
Hi, Minnie!
I’m sure there are other top scientists but Kobilinsky is well known as a regular guest expert in the field to viewers of the nationally televised Nancy Grace show. Nancy Grace was a well-known prosecutor with an extremely tough stance on crime. If I understand correctly years ago her fiance was murdered. Hence her feelings on the subject.
Her TV program concentrates on current criminal cases and Nancy (or NG as we call her here) goes after them will all she’s got. And she has other guests on the show - experts in law (even defense lawyers) and psychological experts and individuals actually connected with the crime being discussed.
We’re all busy speculating as to why Kobilinsky signed up with the defense. Nancy seems disgusted with him about it. It could be money but it could also be his professional curiosity. He may want to see all the evidence himself. Plus this may be the first case ever to include results from air samples (taken from the the trunk of the car).
hi twocents,yes i watched her show while on holiday in florida in august were i first heard of caylee she is brillant,takes no bs.cant see why he would need the money or why he would want to make money from this,surely if he is in high esteem he would get to see evidence without going to the other side?
Good afternoon to all: nothing new to add yet, but am enjoying reading the blogs!
Minnie, I think probably only the experts for the prosecution and the experts for the defense would be able to see the evidence up close. And since air samples might well be a topic for debate, I’m sure Kobilinsky wants to have his say in whether they are dependable enough to be used in court.
Hi, ChsAhs!
There are two new articles here on bloggernews.net about the case. Simon wrote one and Jan wrote this one. There are a lot of new bloggers on Simon’s article. I don’t know how to get us all together - or even if I should try. I’ve been going back and forth!
LOL
I am convinced there is a lot of bullcrap involved in this case and I can only imagine there are others who see that too. It wouldn’t be unusual for Kobilinsky to take the side of the defense in this case. The media is trying to overrun the justice system there, and apparently the state doesn’t have competent people in place or they wouldn’t have released all those documents with peoples names, social security numbers and phone numbers.
When a homicide detective shows up to arrest her on economic charges while being filmed live at the Anthony home it is a clear indication that they are running their own production and not an investigation…Nancy Grace’s opinion isn’t really needed, nor is Padilla’s. They protesters were awed by it being just like on TV…Ha! This is about a missing child and not about filming another “Monster.”
That pathetic militia that has been overrunning the neighborhood is uncalled for to say the least. The psyche operation failed miserably and now they busy trying to do damage control. They made it to Dr. Phil, but not in a good way. Actually, they’ve garnered attention from around the globe and something tells me that their clip and paste technique is going to backfire.
RV - You said: “The media is trying to overrun the justice system there”
If you’re referring to a media organization bailing her out, paying for a PR firm (which is another media organization trying to spin it in M’s favor) and the media time Mark Nejame got, plus the $ one of the Ants got for the visuals on 20/20 and the other offers they’ve had for movies/ books, then yeah, the media is trying to overrun the justice system -but not in a good way and probably not the way you meant?
mytwocents: thanks for the blog updates, I’ll check them both out. Keep on bloggin’, we’ll just try to keep up with you! lol. You’ve had some good points so far!
Giovanni in Mass. is still missing and we don’t hear a word about him because he was with his father…no slut to make it a really juicy story.
And, it’s just like the one lady said when given a warning for trespassing, “I’d be under the jail,” as she was referring to her ethnic persuasion.
No, this is showtime big time and it’s because Casey is a young cute girl who did who knows what with that child. Gosh, she even has a fan club now…people are dressing up like her!
It’s interesting to read Jan and Simon’s articles, they WRITE what so much of us ALREADY feel! After reading their articles, it’s like YES!!…and a weight comes off my shoulders.
I should have addressed you in that last blog 2c…I often forget…get busy typing.
Frankly this case has been rehashed over and over to ad nauseam all based on old info.
As to NG, most of it ,about 98% is old news,recycled each nite. If you watch NG once a week , you will be upto date.
BH with his old news, that he releases in installments like a soap opera , to insure future appearances.
Every time when one of the players leaves a fart, real or brain fart , it is breaking news.
Now ducking the rotten eggs.
RV, are there any websites to the case you referred to? Nancy Grace picks up a story and goes with it till the end. The Caylee story came up first I believe, and it was so bizarre from the beginning (not reporting her missing for 31 days) that it grabbed national attention. NG couldn’t possibly follow ALL missing children cases as they need to be followed. Hopefully the local TV station in that hometown is still following the case.
snookers……….but yet your still here…..glad to see ya anyway!
have to go will try get back later thanks twocents for info.
Yes. NG includes stories about other cases including the four children in the midwest kidnapped by their non-custodial nutty mother.
She’s had that on almost every night - and hopefully people all over will keep their eyes open watching for those children.
And the father who was last seen with his son is in jail I believe. No program can go in-depth with every case.
And yes the Caylee news has fallen off some but there are slow points in an investigation and times when the investigators simply aren’t giving the media anything. But I learned a couple things from NG last night that at least I didn’t know. One was that the Dept of Children and Family Services had completed their investigation - I suppose that pertains to the child neglect charges.
I also learned that M was not mirandized before that July 16 interview/interrogation we all heard. So that might well be a huge thing - whether it will be admissable in court. I’m sure BB won’t want it in. So what do you all think about how the case will stand if all those lies can’t be used? Maybe the prosecution can get it in by having the officers describe where she took them that day and the result of their investigation into those places and people.
snookers…no rotten eggs here…I’m not a media groupie of any sort I suppose. Learned more about Grace on here than from watching her. Never heard of Padilla until this…don’t have cable and not too into TV. Only recently I was in someones house and a show was on where two young fellas dressed as Tarzan was trying to sit on a scorpion…as if that wasn’t bad enough, the other kept getting his head close to the other guy’s butt to see the sting up close and personal…whew!(I’m getting a gun…Lol!)
ChsAh…you can Google Giovanni in Lynn Mass. I believe there is an article on here written about Giovanni by Simon as well.The other lady I mentioned was captured by the local Orlando media as she crossed the protester line and took her entire family to the Ant’s front door and started banging loudly and demanding they come out to tell everyone where Caylee was (as if the Anthonys didn’t want to find Caylee).
Caylee etc,
I am just so frustrated and took my mean pill this morning LOL.
There is so much info missing in the released stuff. They are just little tidbits. The important stuff is/ will not be released till trial.
No interview transcripts from Annie Dowling or Dante Salah(lived at 218 Sawgrass).
No info on the fight on June 15th, which I think was the catalyst for Caylee’s demise.
Just rehashing over and over (hey a song)the fairly non crucial stuff.
The quite often unfair trashing of C & G.
Anybody who raised/raises teenagers, know they all lie from time to time but they outgrow it and become human in their twenties again. If you donot believe me , go back honestly to your own teenage years. Am sure you pulled the wool over your parents ’s eyes many times.
C did sound very normal in her second 911 call..
For an average/non professional person, it is hard to determine what is a sociopath/psychopath, because they are so often quite charming and loving but it is all acting. I do fault her however, for trahing M in front of a third non family party.
Besides all mothers see their children thru rose colored glasses. Scott Peterson’s mother is still convinced , he is innocent.
Anyway, when M is finally in shackles again, she can sing “when the music is over” and when in Jail, she can sing ” I can get no satisfaction”. For you Kimcon.
RV - The reason that the mom of the family that had the nerve to trespass and pound on the front door (which you usually strongly object to) would be “under the jail” if she’d done something like M is because she is African American and the media would not have bailed her out. The cops would have thrown her in - just like they did M - but the media would not have bailed her out. Can’t blame LE for that.
I have been looking for transcripts from Annie Dowling. Very interested in what she had to say. Sorry if I am repeating info. I just stumbled upon the site. Has anyone read anything from her?
mytwocents,
When the police interviewed M. they did not restrain her from leaving therefore there was no need to read her the miranda rights. I could be wrong, but I’m pretty sure that is what Florida law states.
In my opinion,
Someone did say her testimony was in the released documents.
In my opinion: One of our regular bloggers - and an avid follower of the case - has not found any transcripts from Annie Dowling or Dante (something).
See her post above - Snookers at 5:41pm.
It could mean that their testimony is really important to the case and LE is keeping it close to the vest. (I don’t know of course!)
I have not found released testimony from either Annie or Dante.
Both are on the witness list.
Annie was a roomie of Dante at Sawgrass but apparently have now broken up. Annie is a long time friend of M and another witness said she supplied M with drugs. Annie could be Zannie.
Catherine,
In the interview at Universal with M, LE really stressed that the door was closed but not locked. Obviously for the Miranda implication.
I object to them trespassing on their property 2c. After seeing all those ignorant journalist start something that couldn’t be stop by demonstrating where city property and private property start and end…soon came the screeching rock band prompted by their parents to go ahead and show us what an idiot looks like, then the two morons with the flag staking out the area for a photo, then the guy with a doll and headstone, and some leftover from the hippie generation brought her dog.
I mean, has there been anyone in that neighborhood that hasn’t tried to make a scene? No wonder that family seems so bizarre…you have to fit into your surroundings one way or another….grief!
Granted, they all had something in common…their comprehension level was at record lows.
in my opiniion,
You can go to orlandosentenial.com and research just about anything on the Casey Anthony case that has been released to the public.
snookers,
Yes, if they restrained her from leaving they they would have to read her the miranda rights as per Florida law.
Catherine…I think snookers is telling us they didn’t release everything and that is made clear by counting page numbers of the information that was released. Tony L. has a page missing when telling about what C said when she came to pick up Ca.
RV,
I liked the lady with her St Bernard dog. She was an honest protester. All the rest were attention seekers, not honest protesters. The media is responsible for the “socalled” protesters and their antics IMO.
I did not like LV kicking doggie’s waterbowl over in the hot Fla sun.
I think their idea may have been to pin her and the entire family down via the undereducated media and local yocals and browbeat a confession out of one of them. A costly and ineffective tactic if that was their intent.
snookers,
That is what I was told by someone I know who works in LE.
snookers, I liked her too…she reminded me of someone I knew long ago.
snookers,
I agree with you.
Catherine at 5:48
I sure hope so! I was worried because one of NG’s guest lawyers made a deal about it last night and another one did a while back! But they might not know FL law.
Catherine,
Donot follow post dtd 6.10 pm
What is “that”
Will Kimcon come back? I liked him.
I hope so too.
mytwocents,
I think the key word is “restrain”. At no time was M. restrained by LE during the interviews.
Alright…Catherine and myself are the only ones posting at 6:10 snookers
Are we getting into this Dak type thing again?
snookers,
I haven’t heard from him today. I hope he comes back tonight. He stirs things up in a positive way.
Yeah Catherine…you two should get a room!
Okay…after having said that, I’ll say one more thing…later gator!
RV,
What does that mean?
RV - I don’t agree with most of the protester’s behavior either. Except the lady with the dog. And there may have been others who were quietly protesting but we couldn’t see them thru the wild yelling mob.
Are you blaming the unruly stupid protesters for trying to “browbeat” a confession? Fine. What is anyone supposed to do about it. God knows everyone’s tried to get rid of them and even the media pulled back. No more live webcam at the house for example. Old news.
RV,
And you should get some manners.
Catherine at 6:16.
That’s right and I think they made it very clear to her what they were doing, why, what they were talking about and why and told her what her lies and behavior looked like, gave her chance after chance and gave her every opportunity to say stop or I want a lawyer. She just chose to brazen it out. So that better not be inadmissable IMO.
in October 4th, 2008 at 6:10 pm
snookers,
“That is what I was told by someone I know who works in LE.”
Sorry, not into Dak-attack.
This was the post of Catherine, I was referring to.Assume it is about the Miranda rights.
BTW RV , still convinced you are male. Not in any offensive way ofcourse.
mytwocents,
Maybe LE decided that the Ant’s and the Count were threating to sue for not protecting them from the protesters. Truthfully, I was bored watching C. bang in the stakes, and then putting that tape all over the place.
snookers,
Not that it makes a difference, but I heard that RV was a male. Rv is a rude person, and most of us just tolerate him.
Gumshoe said,in October 4th, 2008 at 1:36 pm Catherine, if C had gotten custody of Caylee, what would have made her raise her any differently than she raised Casey? What would have kept her from putting her hands around Caylee’s neck when Caylee did something wrong?
Sure, C loved and cherished Caylee as a small child, innocent and blameless—but what about when Caylee grew into a teen, spoiled like Casey, bailed out time and time again–would C be able to handle the Caylee she herself raised? Or would she have yet another Casey on her hands?
IMO, Caylee never had a chance in life with any of the Ant’s.
I’m jumping in here after being gone for some time.
I’m in total agreement with you Gumshoe.
I know I’ll probably bring out wrath in some but I’m a firm believer in the death penalty for anyone who harms a child. No matter what the circumstances.!! Rape, sexual abuse of any kind, torture, murder, etc,. If you harm a child you die, period. I’m just sick & tired of child abusers, molesters, murderers getting a slap on the hand and set free. These kids carry these atrosities for the rest of their lives, if they live thru it. No, I was not abused when I was a child, I got my butt paddled if I needed it but never in a mean or sadistic way.
O.k. I’m off my soapbox now. Sock it to me, I’m tough, I can take it.
I do believe poor little Caylee was born into a family (it’s hard for me to call them a family) to which there was no escape. She was destined to become another Cindy or Casey had she lived.
LOL,
Putting in those stakes of no tresspassing was like hanging up a sign of wet paint.
Wonder if the cost of those signs came out of the “find Caylee” trust fund.
snookers,
If he suddenly got lost I really don’t think there would be much of a search party.
Me too, Catherine. I think C & G made spectacles of themselves and I’m tired of everyone blaming LE for the protesters. Gosh knows LE’s resources are strained enough!
It was costing (or is costing) $4,000 a week to keep the Ants safe and cozy in their home!
Not to mention the man (cop) power that’s taken away from other people and areas in serious and immediate need.
And yes, Snookers. Catherine responded to help me understand the miranda rights “issue” raised by a couple of lawyers about M’s first interview with the cops at Universal. She said that they would have had to “restrain” her in order to be required to read her her rights but they didn’t. So no need.
you don’t have to mirandize someone if they aren’t under arrest do you? At the time they did the “interview/interrogation”, she wasn’t under arrest and free to leave on her own free will. So, correct me if I’m wrong but they can still use the interview tapes?
Catherine,
No, RV is not rude. Just a typical male.
And I may add, has posted some valuable info in between the typical male BS.
juducas,
I agree with your post.
snookers,
I must have miss the valuable info just read a lot of B.S.
juducas - I sure do agree with you about how child killers etc should be treated. Most can’t keep from doing it again so why do we let them out! Ridiculous!
I am not sure that the Ants would have ruined Caylee had M just left home (forever) As long as C stopped calling her a mistake in front of her. I firmly believe that M is a sociopath. Caylee may not have been born with that personality disorder.
However I still have some little fear nagging at me that IF the little girl is found alive (no chance, I’m afraid) that she will be given back to C & G and after all of this I do not want them to have her. No way. They’ve abandoned her in favor of her killer.
and snookers…..you don’t seem mean. You seem frustrated that this case doesn’t seem to be moving as quickly as we’d all like it to! All our opinions are “trashing” of the Anthony’s are justified in our own ways, but in sight with the way they have behaved. Not because they aren’t acting as WE think they should over the loss of little Caylee, but b/c of their own actions, they have displayed in public…….when all they had to do was just say “no comment”.
CHSAH,
If you restrain someone that you are questioning then you must read them the miranda rights.
Caylee has stolen America’s heart: yes, Catherine pointed out that they would not have to read her her rights unless they were restraining her which they were not. But I’ll bet BB is going to try to get all that thrown out.
Hope to bbl. If not have a great evening!
mytwocents,
If Caylee was found alive I wonder if the Ant’s would get custody of her.
I am very strong opponent of the death penalty and not because of religion.. But then I was raised in a Western European country where the death penalty was abolished in the 19th century.
Locking somebody up and throwing the key away is fine with me. Actually more cruel than death penalty. The death penalty is cruel to innocent surviving close relatives.
Think about that.
Catherine, thanks for clearing up the miranda rights question.
catherine,pity c didnt put a few of those stakes into m never mind her bloody garden!
minnie,
Yes, along time ago.
CHSAH,
From what I understand all the documents that were released to the public are not the same documents the grand jury will receive from the DA to indict M. Also, there is evidence that will only be given to the grand jury, and not made public until the trail.
sorry I meant trial. LOL
Have to feed my cats.
BBL
Geesh a new word. Dakattack!!! .No pun intended, just sounds so neat and rhyming. Like a Macattack
snookers,
It does sound funny.
catherine,can u clear up for me,is it usual for evidence to be released to the public before a trial has begun?this is very different from were i come from.
minnie,
I don’t think it is unusual for evidence to be released to the public before thr trial. For example: In the O.J. trial evidence was released like the glove LE found at O.J.’s house.
I’m sure there is evidence that we no nothing about that will be presented to the grand jury.
In my opinion said,in October 4th, 2008 at 5:48 pm I have been looking for transcripts from Annie Dowling. Very interested in what she had to say. Sorry if I am repeating info. I just stumbled upon the site. Has anyone read anything from her?
As far as I know, no interview transcripts have been released on Annie Downing. Maybe she’s the smoking gun…
thanks catherine,in ireland/england evidence like this wouldnt be released until during a trial so i was just wondering if this was the normal way.have u read the other post by simon yet?
Minnie,
Thanks for helping redirect the newbies here
snookers said,in October 4th, 2008 at 6:43 pm I am very strong opponent of the death penalty and not because of religion.. But then I was raised in a Western European country where the death penalty was abolished in the 19th century.
Locking somebody up and throwing the key away is fine with me. Actually more cruel than death penalty. The death penalty is cruel to innocent surviving close relatives.
Think about that.
I sincerely respect your opinion but what of the children, what do we do with the children that’s scarred for life, some can never reclaim their innocence and be a child again. Locking up some people just make them better criminals. What of the close relatives of the children, what are they to do? I could never forgive someone who hurt my child. Never.
juducas,
Annie Dowling is the girlfriend of Dante S.
Dante worked in an auto parts store, and he and Annie were supposed to move into the Saw Grass Apartments. Dante just diappeared July 17th, as for Annie I have no idea if she went with Dante. I know they are on the witness list, so apparently the police located both of them.
jeannie,no probs,im a newbie too!
Catherine said,in October 4th, 2008 at 7:22 pm juducas,
Annie Dowling is the girlfriend of Dante S.
Dante worked in an auto parts store, and he and Annie were supposed to move into the Saw Grass Apartments. Dante just diappeared July 17th, as for Annie I have no idea if she went with Dante. I know they are on the witness list, so apparently the police located both of them
I’m aware of Annie..I was replying to another poster who ask about her interview.
I believe there is an interview transcript from Dante but I’ll have to look it up. I’ve saved so many temp files I’m about to run out of space. I feel so sorry for LE, I don’t know how they’re keeping this all straight. Good thing they have a good system….Not at all like mine.
juducas,
Please understand that because of my religious beliefs I must forgive, even someone who hurt my child.
Catherine said,in October 4th, 2008 at 7:29 pm juducas,
Please understand that because of my religious beliefs I must forgive, even someone who hurt my child.
Yes, Catherine, I do understand. I absolutely respect your opinion. I don’t like to use that word anymore (absolutely). Seems as if Camp Crazy abuses that word..!! LOL
Catherine at 6:45:
I am awfully afraid that C & G would get custody of her. There’s not enough evidence that we know of yet to show them as unfit at least in the way it’s usually defined.
juducas,
The word “Absolutely” was used quite often, wasn’t it?
mytwocernts,
If by the grace of God Caylee was found alive. I would hope someone would act as Caylee’s court appointed guardian, and the Ant’s would need to go through mental health evaluations to determine if they could provide Caylee with a safe, loving home. I personally believe they would not pass my test as being mentally sound.
Juducas: Many close relatives of killers cut them out of the family out of horror and shame. And are not too sad to see them executed. Not all of course. But some.
My main concern with the death penalty is the far from perfect legal system. I’m always afraid they will execute an innocent person. I’m sure it’s happened quite a lot over the years. We’re still finding plenty of innocent people who have spent decades in jail for a variety of crimes - now proven innocent with DNA! So we know there are innocent people behind bars. I just don’t want to kill any of them.
However if I actually saw a horrible murder with my own eyes I might be hard pressed to object. My religion requires forgiveness too. But is it mine to give if I’m not the victim? It’s really a tough call in some ways.
Catherine at 7:45 I agree. But I have no faith whatsoever in the social/child welfare departments or courts who seem to favor family members over decent loving people who are not blood relatives. I would hope they wouldn’t get custody but I wouldn’t bet on it.
‘Absolutely”, “Most definately” was used way too many times by Lee, Cindy & Casey. I wonder why they felt the need to embelish all their statements that way? I also felt Lee went way beyond the limits with his “investigating”. Even LE made the statement to Cindy that he was very thorough in his answers and was very well prepared, anyone remember that? They have all be unusually quiet lately, huh?
good evening girlfriends
is everyone holding their heads tonight ?
juducas,
The roars from the Ant’s house have been silenced to a purr. Sounds like the attorney’s have finally persuaded them to keep their mouths shut.
Hi girlfriend
hi catherine…do you know if G is getting sued for pushing that elderly lady ?
Catherine,
I don’t know if that’s good or not. We don’t have web cam or any proteters, no new news. I may go into withdrawals (sp)….LOL
juducas is in desperate need of a fix…twitch…twitch lol…you just might be getting that fix very soon
Sabrina,
I haven’t heard if he is getting sued. I think the 65 year old protester did file chargees against him.
yes twocents,living in ireland there has been lots of innocent people behind bars,and thankfuly we dont have death penalty but dna has been able to prove the innocent but it is also to prove the guilty and that is what seems is gona get m to trial for what she has done to her own flesh and blood,only god can forgive her,i cannot.
judacas,
Do you really honestly miss the Jerry Springer crowd?
does everyone know that oj was found guilty on all counts ? not to change the subject, just wanted to heads up everyone
Sorry, if I am making typo’s I am taking a 14 hour continuing education test, and trying to blog at the same time.
no problem catherine, i can’t complain unless i want to complain about my own typos and i make lots all the time lol, i can still understand what you’re saying…good luck on your test
Minnie, I can relate…..I was raised by a wonderful Christian Mother, if anyone goes to Heaven she will, but I just cannot forgive someone who hurts children. I’ve worked with the juvenile system and I’ve seen first hand what happens to some children and the perps never brought to justice. Maybe I’m too hardened by it and maybe God with judge me for it but I’ve seen to much suffering of little kids. I’m just cold to the people who do it…
Sabrina,
Yes, sentencing is set for some time in December. His lawyers have already started the appeal process.
as i was watching NG last night among other nights and heard C say jesse had motive, what motive is she talking about ?
catherine, oj will have to wait his turn in the appeal process which will take a long time
Catherine said,in October 4th, 2008 at 8:04 pm judacas,
Do you really honestly miss the Jerry Springer crowd?
You know, I’ve only seen commercials of his show. I’ve never watched it but I think we could put the Anthonys on there, couldn’t we?
Some of their antics with the protesters, George watering them down, Cindy’s cursing.. sounds like Springer material to me……!!
jerry! jerry! lol
Sabrina,
It’s the motive she made up in her little brain. Just like Amy is also on her hit list for taking Caylee.
hello all.
Sabrina - Cindy was making it up as she went along. She’s the one who didn’t like Jesse.
For one reason because he defended Casey when C verbally degraded her in front of him. I don’t care what C says about anyone she dreams up to blame for what her own sicko daughter did. It’s all nonsense.
catherine, juducas missed my paw git the hose and maw git the bat skit lol…yes juducas they belong as star guests on jerry springer
juducas,
I am laughing so hard that my ribs hurt. Between your comment and Sharon’s comment I can’t breathe.
it is very quiet here tonite.
2cents the entire family is like that, the only one i give any amount of credibility to is G
Sabrina,
Now that was funny, and now you made me start laughing all over again.
hey cat whats?
yep sharon, for a change i’m being able to keep up lol
Do you have the problem of having to start from the top and scroll down each time you post or is just my system? I’ve tried everything I know to do to no avail. I find it hard to get in a timely post this way. Please don’t think I’m ignoring any questions or remarks, I just can’t get back on track. I think that’s why I stopped posting here before ’cause I just couldn’t figure it out. Be patient with me, please.
new? sorry
Yes, Sabrina. In fact I’ve given more thought to why G might have wanted that gun he kept in his car. He may have been considering using it on the two witches in his house. Too bad they took it away.
sabrina
Let’s open a bottle of wine. That should get the party going.
catherine, i know i laghed so hard watching that on tv i was pointing my finger and yelling for hubby to come look LOL geez if i were gonna spray anyone i would want some high pressure device
Sorry. Had another thought. G’s first interview was good - seemed honest. But since then it seems like he’s fallen for all M’s lies, too. He’s the one who said “We know who has her. We’re keeping an eye on them” ANd I”m sure he meant Jesse and his family. G may have to come down on the side of the money - C has it all in that family. He has none.
Have to run for a bit. BBL
We all do the scroll.
Sabrina,
Yes, like a fire hose.
for the last 2 days i have been kicked off i cant refresh. this happening to anyone?
cayherine i’m way ahead of you, i’m half way down a glass of mixed vodka and crystal light woo hoo lol
I’m all for that wine idea. You’re a lady after my own heart.
You guys think George might leave Cindy again?
He probably wishes he never came back to Camp Crazy. He may be wishing he had been infertile..!!
nope sharon, no problem here with refereshing…maybe you need to restart your pc hun
Instead of that hose that had no water pressure. It didn’t even hit the protesters until G. walked down the driveway. And then C. kept telling G. get that one, now get that one.
juducas, if you’re new here, please don’t take me the wrong way, as many will tell you, you have to read between my lines sometimes
i think someone put a hex on me but i wont mention any name? lmao.
OMG ! CATHERINE ! YOU’RE WAY TO FUNNY LMAO !
i will have tequila with the worm please.
You guys are just too FUNNEEeeee!!!!!
Vodka & crystal light, dude that sounds good.
Here I sit drinking diet sprite and I’ve got a bottle of vodka I forgot about…….geezus!?!?
sharon, you’re way to sweet, stay that way…maybe we should find another blog that will be faster for you
Sabrina,
Vodka with crystal light hmmmm is that good?
Never tried that, usually drink my vodka on the rocks witha twist.
Tonight it’s white wine all the way.
JUDUCAS ! get you some ! ah ewe with the worm lol, actuially i used to drink that straight with salt and a twist of lemon
juducas,i also cannot forgive child killers, and those whom abuse children,and as a mother i too would want to kill them with my bare hands,i was trying to say that with dna evidence now it is much easier to prove the guilty and innocent people no longer suffer a misc.of justice.
juducas,
Diet sprite with vodka, sounds good. Okay I’ll have one, please.
catherine it’s very good, i use pink lemon ade flavor, can’t even taste the vodka, and i usuallt triple shot my drinks LMAO !
Minnie,
Sounds like you need a cocktail.
I’m not too big on tequila anymore….Left the pub one time and ran straight into a sign. First and last time for tequila for me. Now, I was drinking shooters so don’t think I was a panty waist………LOL. Really I am..!!
minnie, anyone who harms children will amswer for it in hell, i wish there could be more study done on these people in an attempt to prevent this in the future
Sabrina,
OMG We need to go out one night after the trial to celebrate.
SSSKKKRRREEEEEECH!!!!
~Enters Room~
Hi Everone!
~Trips And Falls Down~
~Looks Up~
HA!
im
hmmm, last time i got drunk on the worm, that was all i could taste i burped, farted and sneezed tequila for a week LOL !
Thanks for the heads up Minnie.
I thought I heard something about booze in here!
to
sabrina said,in October 4th, 2008 at 8:34 pm catherine it’s very good, i use pink lemon ade flavor, can’t even taste the vodka, and i usuallt triple shot my drinks LMAO
Mercy, I’d have to be an octopus to find my bed if I did that…..Well, I guess I could sleep on the sofa. I think I’ll go find that vodka. Hold on…BBL
slow…
catherine i’m down with that ! it’s a date girlfriend !
sabrina said,in October 4th, 2008 at 8:38 pm hmmm, last time i got drunk on the worm, that was all i could taste i burped, farted and sneezed tequila for a week LOL !
My kind of witch! ‘)
hi kimcon…aww poor sharon, i wish i could help you hun
I went to a good-bye to summer party in college and drank so much tequila that I can’t even look at a bottle of that fire water to this day.
hey the page came up said i was posting to fast slow down now thata to funny.
~pours some vanilla kahlua & milk~
LMAO ! actually i posted that befor you came in, i thought there were only women in here *blush* i would never say that in mixed company ! LOL
Hi Kimcon,
sabrina said,in October 4th, 2008 at 8:38 pm hmmm, last time i got drunk on the worm, that was all i could taste i burped, farted and sneezed tequila for a week LOL !
Whee haw………You’re my kinda gurl…And wouldn’t it be great if we could get together. I think we should go to Orlando get a buzz on and go see the HAMMER (Cindy). George could water us down and sober us up. Wadda ya say, you ready???
hi kim
jeannie, been there done that, only mine was coffee flavor and with vodka for many years, can’t take the suger now, i really miss it though
juducas ! LMAO ! you’re on ! but i want a “da walk” contest ! we should be practicing, catherine has got a jump start on us ! but i would love for all of to meet
sharon said,in October 4th, 2008 at 8:41 pm hey the page came up said i was posting to fast slow down now thata to funny.
~Gulps~
Where’s Sparky?
hey, if G hoses me down he better use a much stronger stream of water, not like the limp stream he used on the protesters LMAO !
Hey, I lived in orlando for years, I know exactly where they live, not pin point but close enough that I wouldn’t get lost. I lived in Altamonte Springs on Fordham Avenue, just north of the Anthonys. I also know where Byasz’s office is in Kissimmee, I’d like to visit him too……..the dirt bag.
he is in wisc. thats my grandsons nickname lol
Sabrina,
Yes, sorry I do have M’s walk down to perfection. I can even tie my tee shirt in the back or the side with my skin tight jeans. I went and had a manicure and pedicure today, but when we go out I will polish my toe nails blue.
ruff! ruff!
ya know what ? barz’s wife might join us bunch of drunk women staggering on her front lawn, we could hose that goofy grin off of baez’s fat face LMAO !
juducas,
Stop making me laugh. I am very good at visualizing.
Hi Catherine
no fair catherine, we have to catch up ladies, get going give me twenty hup hup !
Sabrina,
She just might. This is a pro bono case
Catherine, Catherine….You could turn Byasz’s head, take him right way from skank.
Do you suppose if they wanted DNA on all the guys she slept with they’d have to hold it in the Rose Bowl? She sure don’t know who Caylee’s dad is, does she? Crazy question……
kimcon?
Sabrina,
I am almost done that bottle of wine. Think I’ll have a Belvedere on the rocks. I don’t have any crystal light.
can you imagine being married to BB he wouldn’t be sleeping with me after all those days behind closed doors for hours with look at my butt girl ! bannished forever to the guest bedroom BB !
on the rocks is always good, but only after i’ve had a mixed drink first then i can take the straight shots WOO HOOooooooo LOL join me girlfriend we’ll be holding our heads tomorrow !
Pro bono….does that mean what I think it means? As in bone?…..My bad?
kimcon havin a cigar are we!
juducas,
I’m a blonde with light eyes. I think he likes that short greasy black hair and black devil eyes. Shucks! Out of luck again.
juducas,
I think we should DNA Florida for the baby daddy.
*giggles* @ juducas !…sharon is your pc better now ?
juducas,
Yes, you are bad, but very funny.
i guess i’m out of luck too in that case catherine lol, ah who cares…BB can (you know what) a duck !
Catherine, he’s not your type. You’ve got brains. He likes the dippy, skanky, slutty type. Hope I don’t get thrown off here. I’m just kidding moderators, I really meant baby killer, liar type. Sorry!!! Not.
Do I smell cigar smoke?
does anyone seriously suspect what i suspect about BB and M ???
Juducas,
I think Jan woould agree with your description of M.
no juducas, you’re right ! at least i think so…BB looked way to goofy and seemed to have a bit of a swagger in his step after the long hour meetings everyday, sort of like that commercial about male enhancement
Sabrina,
It’s been quite a while since M. has been with a man. You never know if BB or his sidekick just couldn’t resist her charm. Just hope they put their wallets in the company safe.
Sabrina….
I “absolutely” do. What could they possibly have to do for 6 hours a day. There’s no way it would take that much time but when he does time and charges he wants to be safe legally, I guess. But what about his other clients, is she the only one? I would think not. Does anyone here know where he went to law school? I tried to find out but I ran into a block wall. I did find out that he’s a high school drop out (they do have that in common). I believe he might have gotten his degree in the military but I’m not sure. Any thoughts?
Sabrina,
LMAO. You know tomorrow when the others read these posts we are going to hear about how we are not talking about the case. I heard about this morning.
hmmm i was gonna say something quite nasty, but think i had better save that for a personal email if ya know what i mean catherine LMAO !…in other words, if i were a man i think i would be more worried about something other than my wallet if i were with her
better sabrina thanks for asking! still tryin to find the worm smokin that cigar!lol!
sharon said,in October 4th, 2008 at 8:58 pm kimcon havin a cigar are we!
~Exhale, Cough~
Hi Girls!
Hello AGAIN CAT!
juducas, i think BB got his degree from the internet…catherine, what did people say about not talking about the case on the blog ? what can we talk about ? there’s no new news, we can keep hashing out the same thing over and over, i prefer to not keep repeating myself, when something new comes up i’ll be all over it
Hic…we have hic mentioned the anthonys hic…now & then…
now where’s my drink hic!!??
LOL@ sharon ! you go girl ! did you already swallow it maybe ? LOL
juducas,
BB was a high school drop out? I know M. dropped out of school in her senior year. Why would any parent let their child drop out of school?
lmao! sabrina
LOL @ juducas exactly !…oh i thought of something a minute ago, hmmm uh oh, where did it go…shoot i forgot, i hate it when that happens lol….hi there kimcon ah hem !
Sabrina,
Check out the last room we were in last night, and you will see what I mean. Hmmmm. need more ice for my drink. Can i get anyone anything?
I really meant to get here before you gals got “sloppy” drunk…….
M’s mom couldn’t stop her. I guess if you’re as good of a liar as she was, she was probably too far behind in credits to graduate. Only a guess.
catherine, i agree ! my kid would be in school no matter if i had to go sit in school every day with them ! i would pull up a tree and tie it to their backs so they couldn’t run LOL !
ahhh thanks catherine i’m set, nah doen’t think i want to go there with the other blog…perhaps we should find another blog that doesn’t have any comments on it, something that’s about paris hilton, or britney spears ??? jan has some on here i’ve noticed no one comments on…there’s only a few though, i have noticed them when you guys are playing hide and seek with me LOL !
Whenever, I drink I just would love to have a cigarette. I would probably choke to death.
kimcon,
We are not drunk, are we girls?
juducas, M learned to lie from her mother, M was over indulged and spoiled, she was defended when she was in the wrong, this led her to feel that she was entitled, and could get away with what ever she wanted…for instance, when she stoled from her grandfathers old age fund, C asked her father to not press charges C said she would pay it back, again letting M get away with it
catherine i have some ultra lights, want one or two or three or….
Sabrina,
I am ready. Just say the word.
No alcohol here…just a cappacino…Can I join in? I have none in my house right now, except for a bottle of champagne in the fridge downstairs (unopened), but I’m saving that for Casey’s arrest.
What are ultra lights? Is that a brand?
Hi Kris,
Yes, save that bottle of champagne for the big day. Got your sweats on?
So not much new going on today huh
hi everyone,
Do you think that mabey if casey falls through the cracks and gets out of prison or she gets a light sentence that the state of florida should sentence her to get “fixed” so she cant have anymore children. i mean she already killed the first one and pretty much went out made a pasta dinner and partied right after all of that. its like when she went out and partied she was celebrating that she had murdered her daughter or had caused her disappearance. and i agree with most of you all that all she was trying to do was save her own butt. and her lawyer needs to give a small clue so that they have something to go on and yet he isnt breaking lawyer/client confidentiallity.
Sabrina,
Ok, I’ll have a ultra light.
I luv sweats! I am dressed very comfy, old lady bedroom slippers too. Just fired up the pellet stove and the house feels excellant. Couldn’t shake the chill after being outside. That man will kill a person working them to death.
Hi Dak,
How are you?
helloooooo kris, go ahead and open that bottle, i’m afraid one bottle of champagne would only make me want more lol…hey everyone was buzzing last night, i think i was the only straight one in the room…we need to find another blog so we can chat without disrupting the flow of the ants case…i understand others dismay when they are trying to catch up on the case and we are goofing off
Yes, Sabrina she did do that. I read that Cindy had to draw from her 401-k to pay her parents back the money M stole. What a shame. I know Cindy has been the major bread winner for all their married life. I sure she became the control freak because of circumstances in the marriage, she couldn’t control what George did and I think maybe,he’s the one that search for escort services on their computer. I’m not defending her because I think she made her bed and should lie in it, as my Dad used to say. IMO……
hi DAK ! be still my heart !
hey Catherine
Ambnic,
I think if she ever got out of jail she should be sterilized.
Hi dak…you’ve just stepped into a bar scene…maybe a mafia type scenario or Slaughterhouse thing I think.
All they need is some music.
I’m listening to Show and Tell.
Here is the soul of which you’ve taken control……
Its okay I think I could use a drink right about now.
Nobody feel bad for straying a bit, we always come back to the topic. Afterall there has not really been anything new going down. It’s just talk about how much we already despise her, and going over the same stuff pretty much.
ok dak, but if you start howling at the moon i will officially cut you off ! lol
sorry i forgot to say one thing in my last comment so ill just add it now
Casey is a grown woman she controls her own actions not Cindy and so i dont see how Cindy could have caused the death of Caylee, and another thing i think casey was just waiting for the slightest thing to happen between her and her mother so she would have an excuse.
Casey hasnt only ruined her families life she ruined Zanida’s life as well.
The only new question that I can think of is: Does anyone know a date that equasearch is coming back? The media did not give a precise time, only that they are.
catherine, i think she should be sterilized befor prison, she’ll wind up preggers and not be able to tell which gaurd got her that way
Thanks for a good evening guys but my sleeping pill is taking effect, another reason to not put vodka in the sprite. I catch up with you’ll tomorrow.
Have a good night and sleep tighty tight.
Hey AmbNic I don’t think Casey totally ruined Zenaida’s life by herself after all she only mentioned her name and if you want get really down to it Casey didn’t specift that Zenaida. If we all remember Casey gave the name Zenaida fernandez-Gonzales and the Zenaida thats suing Casey doesn’t have Fernandez any where in her name.
you’re right kris, i was just saying that…it’s been that way for nearly a week, only thing new is from peron of interest to suspect…yet if this forum is specifically just for caylee case then maybe we should preserve space for when it comes down
i agree totally that she should be steralized. and i also think that if she really wanted to have a child she would have taken care of the one she had and protected her instead of soing w/e it was that she had done.
Kris I don’t think they gave a date.
ok juducas, sweet dreams
sabrina, there are alot of blogs we can go into, and if the conversation is peppered with a little fun once in a while, it only makes this case not feel like a second job. I know I get stressed thinking about Casey and what she’s getting away with so far. So don’t feel compelled to always apologize or feel bad about it…we are only human.
know what ambnic, what gets me is she really never had to take care of caylee at least not on her own, her parents were there and did it all, they kept food , clothes and roof over both caylee and casey…for not even a week did casey have caylee on her own and the baby is missing, presumed dead…what kind of mother does that make casey…M never wanted the baby and when C chokes M that’s when M decides to take caylee and bond and be a real mother ??? NOT
yeah kris, me too, it does feel like a job at times…i’m with everyone else, what ever you guys decide
i just hope that casey opens her mouth in the next few days and hopefully itll be the truth. ive noticed also during the interview with the police that she was pausing to think of what to say next as she was speaking and ive noticed that she likes to hear herself talk.
ambnic, you’re right ! i have noticed that with all the family except for G, also i sort of noticed that with tony and nate the room mate…um’s and pauses etc…
as if they are trying to choose their words wisely, and think of what to say next
I just hope it’s not 3 months like the sheriff was saying in the media. I really thought it would come down soon. Maybe them discussing equasearch returning is a ploy/smokescreen for the sake of the family…but they really have all the evidence and body all ready from the last search. Ya never know.
hey Sabrina,
I totally agree with you and not only that but C isnt the only one who offered to adopt Caylee.
Sabrina,
Maybe we should move to another room and email the room to our group.
Is kimcon smoking another a cigar?
i hope so too kris, yet i don’t look for the ants to help equusearch in any way…ambnic, i know, there was a girl from school, but M is like i don’t want it but if someone else shows interest then she would rather kill the baby rather to let someone else have it
ok catherine, let me know, i’m right behind you girlfriend
Kris,
Do you want to move to another room?
shew i hate cigars, no wonder i feel like i can’t breath lol, actially it’s true, no offense intended, but cigar smoke is so thick it has always taken my breath same as pipe smoke, and i love the way pipe smoke smells
I’m fine here if you guys are ok too.. I was just gonna ask ….Does anyone want to hear a joke to break the monotony?
Sabrina,
You know I’m not good at finding rooms, especially after after a few cocktails.
yeah, Casey is kinda like my puppies they play this game if one has something (in this case the baby) they all want it but if no ones got it they dont want it. and another thing is that gets me is that if she has nothing to hide as she so much claims then whats the point of lying?
yes
ambnic if you want you can join us, that goes for everyone, but we may not always be discussing the caylee case, it’s sort of hard to with no new news, i’m beginning to sound like a broken record on the subject
It’s a long one…But worth the reading… A little bit of lab humor compliments of working in a lab for years…Here goes:
Some lab humor
One day John was passing by his doctors office when he noticed his tennis elbow acting up, so he decided to stop in. Luckily there was a cancellation and they could see him, so John was asked to wait, but first he must provide a urine sample. John thought a urine sample was absurd for a tennis elbow examination, but the nurse explained to him that the doctor had just purchased a new lab machine that could diagnose absolutely every physical defect and ailment with total accuracy through urine, that he was able to get out on the golf course every afternoon at 3pm. John still thought that was absurd but did agree to give the urine.
About 10 minutes later the doctor called John in and said, “That tennis elbow is really acting up huh?” John asked if the nurse told him, he said no that it was his new lab machine and he wrote out John a prescription and told him to come back in 3 weeks for a recheck appointment. John left very skeptical about being diagnosed but did agree to return.
3 weeks later— John is at the breakfast table with his wife and teenage daughter when he starts to discuss his doctors appointment that day and explains to them about the new miracle machine that can diagnose absolutely every physical defect and ailment with total accuracy, they all have a good laugh and then decide to have a little fun with the doctor. John takes out the urine cup they gave him to bring back in for the visit, he pees in it, then so does his wife and teenage daughter. As he’s walking out into his garage he has another “idea”, and goes over to his car and adds a few drops of crankcase oil to the container and mixes it up.
John arrives at his doctors appointment and hands the nurse his urine sample. All the while sitting in the waiting room trying to keep the giggles down and compose himself. This time it took 20 minutes to be called into a room. The doctor finally walks in and starts pacing back and forth looking up at John sternly every few steps. Finally he stops and looks John (who is trying very hard to compose himself from laughing) directly in the eye and he says…”O.k. so you think you’re a wise guy huh? Well I got some very bad news for you…Your wifes got VD, your teenage daughter is pregnant, your cars just about to throw a rod, and if you don’t stop “whacking off” that tennis elbow is never gonna heal!…….(John goes white).
catherine hun, you have to hold one eye closed ! LMAO ! ….ok i’ll find one…where’s kris ? hmmm maybe sneaking down to the fridge for that champagne ???
yeah it is kinda hard to talk about something with no new news. And after you state all your opinions theres really not much else to say. thanks for the offer but i gotta go to bed i gotta go to work early in the morning.
ok brb gonna look for a low outdated blog we can use
I forgot one part to that joke above–after the crankcase oil, he does the nasty with himself and a playboy magazine under the seat and adds a little to the container. Sorry.
OMG That is a riot. I am falling off my sofa.
My ribs are hurting again.
ok i found one i simply couldn’t resist…try this 113496
That was always my favorite lab joke of all I’ve ever heard.
uh oh i missed something ! i’m scrolling back !
Kris,
That is as good one, but I would never be able to remember it. I would need to print that one out, girlfriend.
woo shame girl ! kris as always, you’re too funny !!!
Sabrina,
I need the date for the new room. My computer doesn’t let me put the number in.
Don’t forget to add the part I left out by mistake if you print it. I posted it right below the joke..Don’t know how I forgot that.
It was still funny.
ok i’ll look back…there’s not a single post on it…hold on, brb
Are we moving to a new blog? I’m o.k. in here unless everyone else is having trouble with posting. My posts are still pretty quick.
january 2008, the problem with mens rights movement….just go up to and click january 2008, then scroll very little if at all to the mens rights LMAO !
I don’t want to support that one! Holy crap…I am so upset with men right now it’s not even funny..I could kick this one square in the ass..
kris it’s a reverse psychology thing lol, that’s why i picked it we can man bash all night long in there LMAO !
Oh…If your sure on that then I’ll christen the blog by being the first one there..and smashing my bottle of champagne against the computer screen! lol.
you go girl !!!! are we ready to go ???
helloooo ?
Ok I’m going
sort of ironic…if anyone wants to join feel free…comments open
on my way catherine
I just read that story…Can’t say I like it too much. Is there any reason you don’t want to stay here?
new addie 113496
Blogs about the Caylee Anthony case are currently being posted (Sunday morning) under the article: The Caylee Anthony Story - An Editor’s View (written Oct 4)
That’s article number 118028
You can find it by going to the home page of bloggernews.net and scrolling down a bit or by having that web site in your browser and adding 118028 after net/
ok where is everyone?
Kris…loved that joke! I once has tennis elbow…had to wear a brace for almost a year because it almost went into carpal tunnel. It healed and my back swing is meaner than ever…heck, I’ve yanked the handle of my microwave twice and loosed the handle on my refrigerator. I have to watch myself when I close the door behind me so I don’t slam the door off it’s hinges…Lol!
Thanx luv
NEW BLOG, over at 118036
I’m been reading about this case like crazy …and I’m sorry to admit that how bizarre her mother acts is part of why I follow it. I honestly worry less about the child, because I feel like she’s gone and she’s gone as a sweet little child, back with God. Casey probably knows what she did and is probably waiting for death herself. How could she not?
Made it…anyone here yet?
Ok i am here this one much faster
Yes this is a big difference..posts fast.
Hopefully cecy will come in too..I think Cj usually pops in in the evenings also.
yah its going fast… i am tired tonight and doesn;t seem like much happening.. I think when the search starts things will start changing
I am sure once the search starts that the blog will be hopping again…Everyone is waiting for Tim to come back…I couldn’t believe that Padilla stated he thinks within the first hour they will find Caylee.
I hope he is right they sure have their work cut out for them…i feel so puzzled still over this case…I mean sometimes I feel so strong about the prosecution, and some days i feel like why did this happen? now shes in jail, poor caylee gone and still no real justice yet.. i get down about it, because although shes in jail, she hasn’;t been tried yet.. then that guy bugged me from HN saying he felt accidental? I tried so hard tobelieve that i really did. but i don’t see it now
There is no way in hell it was accidental..NO WAY! That woman partied her ass off and if it was accidental she could have easily called the paramedics or 911 that day it happened but did not…I will never ever believe that…unless in their twisted words they mean she never meant to overdose her…even then she had no right to do anything like that to the baby…she is sick and this was premeditated as far as I am concerned..that man can jump in the lake.
thats the guy from headline news the host mike, he also had the other mike on the FBI mike from NG the host was saying mansalughter but the other guy said there is nothing to prove murder one. or death pen case.. i said no proof?????????? maybe they dont follow it like we do here on blogger news lol maybe not all the world has went over this case with a fine tooth comb lol ( well I know proscecutors are)
Her actions speak for themselves…she did not call 911 because she either a) wanted her gone and out of her life or b) Knew she overdosed her and would be up s&@t’s creek for doing so if she called so she took the sneakiest route to save her own neck.
yah thats the only accidental theory I am buying is the accidental chloroform o.d… and then the covering like a real worm would do… but she knew chloroforming your helpless 2 1/2 year old was a crime in itself.. hence then the cover up, but I still think pre med with the other evidence the searches the elaborated story.. etc.. it was like she wanted to do this, but then hesitated and then the night she fought with C she put it into action
pammy..that guy is talking out his butt hole..really. It is a psych tactic is all I feel it is. Sort of like, “If I say it long enough, and enough times the public may believe it and change the outcome”….never will this happen. Too much evidence…she is going down in a big way on this.
If her lawyer was given all the evidence to go over from the prosecution..I am surprised that by now we haven’t see the cards they have been holding close to their chest…If all the players know now..they should leak a few tidbits to the public so we can see how much more they have.
Anyone still here?
i think they will leak more and more all the way to trial… they know how much the public is watching this case closely…yah i agree shes been going down since day one.. like that interrogator told her in the tape this is a sinking ship, tell the truth now and he was right, shes in that cell thinking god knows what now, she knows she is F**C..D
there will be many stories to forget hers for the moment like Jennifer hudson, and poor M will be forgotten and ants too. until trial that is…. we will still be here waiting tho…
I can’t understand how on earth she can plead not guilty to this…that is what I thought I read today on the internet. What type of defence can she possibly take to counter all the evidence..how will all that be explained away by a lawyer..this will be quite interesting to see them try. It was like just as funny her pleading not guilty to the fraud charges with the checks…they had her on camera! How stupid can you be to take that choice.
I hope she squirms in her jail cell the closer she knows they are getting to Tim”s return and finding Caylee… she should get no sleep over that.
Dear Heavenly Father we again come to you in prayer about our Beautiful Caylee Marie Anthony. AS each of us struggles to come to grips with what has happened we ask you for Guidance, support and encouragement. Please help us to be strong as each day we wait wanting to know our little Angel has been found and will be laid to rest with all of the diginity, grace and honor that she deserves. Help as we struggle to control our tempers as we watch the people around this case seem to be deceptive and not looking out for Caylee. Give us the wisdom to see beyond rumor, speculation and guesses. Help us to each look at the facts and know that Caylee wants justice and we need to demand it for her. Also help the searchers who are going to look for Caylee to be smart and strong. Smart enough to see the signs and preserve the evidence and strong enough to stay the course and find Caylee. We know this will be no easy task and we want you to guide and comfort each one as they work. There is no greater task than to search for the body of a lost innocent child and the pain to these searchers will be great. Even while we triumph when Caylee is found the tears and pain will be unbearable. Lord we also ask that you help everyone who is struggling with this missing person case or any other. We have all come to know the pain of not knowing. Help us to keep the most innocent among us safe and give us the courage to stand and fight not just for Caylee but for all children. I want to thank you for the chance to join as a group in the common goal we each have and also for your encouragement as we each stand ready to be on the Caylee Marie Anthony Justice Team. All these things we pray in Jesus Name. AMEN
Hello CFC…another great post.
Interesting note on the hearing date. LE has 15 days to provide evidence to be used at trial to bb and his team. Also hearing date was moved up by Le so they are confident in their case or they wouldn’t mind going slower. I am wondering if with FLA. free information act that we will be getting more info in about 2 weeks. which just might be about the same time they Find Caylee. Know this as just one blogger to others. IMO THEY WILL FIND CAYLEE. M WILL BE FOUND GUILTY AND CAYLEE MARIE ANTHONY WILL GET HER JUSTICE.
thank you Kris, how are you feeling tonight.
I’m feeling ok…just wish I could have had more commitment for the MD yesterday. How are you doing.
fair my son celebrated his 17th birthday, my baby.
What do you think about JP Chatt? I see the pics too resemblence is there. But I am having a hard time connecting him to m at all. He was a roomate to Ricardo but he (Ricardo) only met M in 2007 Caylee was already born by then.
I think the pics are an uncanny resemblance…don’t know if they knew each other prior to that..but if they traveled within the same circles I’m sure it’s possible. It seems monster was very promiscuous and I think anything could have happened even if that JP said he didn’t even like Monster…
True that is why I am searching. I read Amy’s testimony and Ricardo’s and Jp is barely mentioned.
One thing I always wondered about that I was hoping someone would know..is how do the authorities know if someone from the Ant’s camp would go out to the wooded area they are intending to search on the 8th…and try to move the remains? I mean do they have that area under constant surveillance to be sure no one goes there in the meantime? Or is it just they feel noone would attempt to do anything until Tim returns? Afterall the authorities or the public do not know who in the Ant family has exactly what knowledge and it could be possible if they have an inkling of where she is to attempt to move her to save their daughters sorry butt.
I would guess if they are that sure about location that someone is watching. Maybe all this info that Padilla keeps uttering is to scare someone into trying to move the body. I know most will disagree with me, but I don’t think the Ants know really where Caylee is. I bet m has never even told them the truth. Do they or should they know she is dead> YES.
I don’t know if they truly are in denial or monster told them before going to prison..there denial now could be per instructions of their lawyer to put up a united front for the public to help display their daughters innocence..which we know is not true…but I still wonder what was said before she got out of the car under that bridge that day…I still wonder if she may have told Cindy something.
Hopefully if they have a good idea about the area..they will have set up some hidden cams to watch for cars pulling over.
Hi guys - I made it back finally. My guy had to use the computer. I get really cranky when that happens!
Also, was sending more info to Paddy. did you hear he emailed me back???
Really Cecy? Did you invite him into the blog again…like we did?
no what did he say. Did he ask about Mama
cecy…Can you get anything else to Paddy if you try again? I want someone to hear about the thoughts I had between this case and the case I mentioned before of Paul Bernardo/Karla Homolka…been trying to get that info out for a while now…I truly feel like someone should know about that. It could result in alot more witnesses for the prosecution…and if you have an “in” with Paddy maybe he could get it mentioned to the right people.
I know you guys are really bummed she might not get Murder One, but that’s been my fear for a long time.
A body will not prove murder, just a big coverup. M will use the excuse “I’m PETRIFIED my mother will never forgive me” to say why she hid the body instead of calling 911. We all know that it wasn’t a pool accident - it was chloroform and for that, Cindy would have done more than choke her.
The ONLY thing that will point to murder - her actually having planned to do it ahead of time, is the missing child searches - because they are WAY before the chloroform recipes and other stuff that might just be explained away by the defense as a stupid mom trying to stay out with her friends.
OR if we could get a cause of death from her remains that is violent. skull fracture, broken bones stuff.
I know we all know better, but if the jury doesn’t have enough to prove malice aforethought, they have to go with manslaughter. Even if that happens, I think the chloroform, the hiding her body and the missing kid searches will convince them it wasn’t THAT accidental and she’ll get the maximum sentence.
Sure, or you can email him yourself - it’s right on his website - just google him.
sounds fascinating - tell me about it!
by the way, hi C4C and (is pammy still here?)
Kris - have you ever been on the site websleuths.com?
It covers ongoing investigations in every state and all kinds of people who have info go on there to post theories, evidence, etc. It’s a total gas to be on!
beans one thing to remember is that if m really told no one what happened and had no accomplice the only way she can tell her story is to testify. The defense will never let that happen. She would be destroyed on cross. HEr bro mom or dad, can’t testify to conversations with her it is heresay. She can’t say any of that without taking the stand.
C4C - I don’t think they would use testimony for the same reasons, but then they don’t have to. All the defense has to do is plant reasonable doubt by suggesting other scenarios that seem plausible. They don’t need M to say a thing, only describe what might have happened. The prosecution has to prove everything.
Well I mentioned it the other night in the blog…I was thinking about the chloroform issue and it brought to mind another case..Remember from up in Canada..Paul Bernardo/Karla Homolka? They killed Karla’s little sister and then two girls Kristen French and Leslie Mahaffey? Well when I thought on that case I remembered that Karla was told by Paul to steal an anesthetic from her vet clinic that she worked at and if I remember correctly it was consistent with properties of chloroform too…and they used this on a rag over the mouth of Karlas sister. Well when she stopped breathing..they called 911 and had a story in place of she drank to much and drugs..but when the police grilled them about the red rash around her mouth & nose area..they could not explain that away (which is what raised the suspicions and the red flag to police). So my thoughts were remembering this case and the chemical rash showing up..I think LE should know and be reminded about the Bernardo case..and they should go back and re-interview all Casey’s friends from the parties to see if anyone spotted a strange redness or rash around her mouth or nose area…it could prove how long she drugged her for and also provide alot of witnesses for the prosecution. That was my thoughts on it and I felt it was very important to tell them.
but other than opening statement and closing arguments they have to have a way to discuss it. You have to have someone get up there and answer questions that would give that scenrio. How do you think they could bring it in.
C4C - by “they”, I meant defense counsel, not M herelf.
Kris - I wikipedia’d your case and it sounds totally creepy! I remember you mentioning it before now (some of these posts fly by so fast on nights). What do you know about it?
Never been on websleuths..but heard alot about it.
Cecy..do you mean what do I know about the Bernardo case? I had alot of friends up in the St Catherines area when I use to do the show cats..and I was kept well informed on it. Also read all three of the books on the case when they came out..so I know that the chemical she stole from the clinic had very similar chemical composition to that of chloroform.
it is getting late am going to call it a night. Have fun and I will check back in again tomorrow (of course that is what an addict does)
C4C - you could do that by examining the forensic experts and asking them if its possible it may have occured this way or by someone else. None of the forensic evidence yet specifically rules out any one else. they would do that on anything they could, and then sum it up at the end by saying that none of the evidence implicates Casey solely and no other. They might try to impugn the credibility of her male friends, like Tony, and if any of them had access to the car, etc.
If they have a few alternate scenarios in mind, the defense could bring them up in opening statements and use everybody’s testimony to prove that might have happened instead of what they believe happened. If they do it with every single thing, they just might succeed. If witnesses originally said they thought she was a good mom and rescind that, they’ll use it against them.t
The fact that they can’t prove Casey’s elaborate stories to them about Caylee are actually lies could help as well. The prosecution has to have evidence and testimony that proves Murder One - otherwise it’s speculative and will have to be dropped to manslaughter.
Kris - wow that is amazing! I don’t know about the burn marks - didn’t somebody mention she had a rash on her hand in one pic - but I imagine that any chloroform expert will testify to that and they will see if anyone on the witness list noticed symptoms.
personally I think she started using chloroform late in the game and that originally she used Xanax to be her “Zanny”, which was why she was passed out on the sofa at those parties. M could have stolen them from her mom or something, not to mention any of her friends.
I think the chloform - if she used it the last time - was a first time, o.d. thing - because it was so crudely made - and for that we might not get evidence of rash because she is now too decomposed. You should email Paddy, really!
Oh lord…don’t even think that cecy…I truly hope they don’t go for manslaughter..they need the murder one. She is the most heinous person that could be put on our planet to do that to a child…she needs the most the court can give her.
Night CFC..
I also think that burn marks around her mouth would have been noticed by C and G. Whatever she told her friends, C and G were taking care of that child most of the time before early June and I think they would have sent her to the doc - Cindy certainly would have flipped out if she saw something. Cindy saw her the day before she died.
Nite CFC - sleep well!
Kris, I hope so too but I’m trying to be practical. Like I said, even if they don’t have enough for Murder One (and they sure didn’t leak everything) - she is so evil and dirty in her own recorded words that no jury will have a problem with keeping her in prison until she’s too old to party hearty.
And somebody may go for a trophy kill in prison too…
Don’t worry, if she EVER gets out I know a bunch of ladies who will hightail it down to FL and beat her to death with baseball bats!
Yeah I know but Cindy buys into monsters lies too easy I think. Who knows what she could have made up about any redness. She could say that it was a reaction to her giving the baby strawberries to eat for all we know. Cindy just seems to get railroaded by her daughters lies all the time. And I do remember alot of the friends from the parties commenting on how Caylee was always listless and tired, and in hindsight they could possibly remember if they saw anything peculiar on her.
Kris, email me the names of those books if you get a chance one of these days. I’d like to look them up.
Today was the first anniversary of Stacey Peterson going missing. I heard they are reopening the case of his third wife as a murder now that the exhumation proved it homicide.
LOL……….. I SURE DO LOVE ME LIL GURLS. GO TO BED………….
I HAVE BEEN LURKIN. LOVE TO LISTEN TO YA’LL CHATTING. I AM OUTTA HERE. CAN’T KEEP ME EYES OPEN.
NITE—–CU MORROW.
(((((HUGGS)))))
I still think it is a worthy mention to jog the memory of officials to this case of Bernardos. It could possibly give them something because of the mention.
By mammabear..didn’t know you were peeking from the woods..lol.
You’re right. Cindy is about Cindy.
I think once LE thought it was a possiblility they went back and re-interviewed everyone. The stuff they leaked out was just the initial investigation interviews.
brb gotta let the puppy out
OOOOOOOH AND
AMEN TO YOUR PRAYER C4C. THANK YOU
wow - we have got to get a less circuitous route for posting!! It’s hard to find how we wind in and out among the weeks!
Cecy…those three books I read on the Bernardo case were:
Lethal Marriage
Deadly Innocence
Invisible Darkness
And there was also one more published I did not read..I believe it was just entitled Karla.
Oh Mama! I missed reading your posts.
Nite - I emailed Paddy more stuff tonight and will let you know what I hear.
Thanks Kris - I think it’s a good idea. You should tell Paddy.
Which book was best?
I didn’t know you used to show cats. How fun!
I think the Invisible Darkness was the one that was the most intriguing. Very informative into what they were like as people…and the investigation.
speaking of Cats - did you email her? I hope she’s just busy and not upset about something.
I use to have Grand champion persians that I ran for regional and national wins for over 10 years with my ex husband…we built quite a name for ourselves back then.
Cool - I’ll look for it at the library. My sis might have a copy. She reads every true crime book around.
Yes I sent Catherine an email…I will hopefully hear from her tommorrow she usually emails back…don’t really know whats going on with her lately or if she’s just busy and because it’s a bit slower now in here she just hasn’t stopped in.
Wow - that must have been so exciting! Persians are so beautiful. What made you get out - was it that you guys did it together?
Yeah, I may drop her a line myself. I saw her Sat or Sunday but then nothing. I hope she wasn’t upset about anything or anyone. I miss having her around to answer all our legal questions - not to mention her great sense of humor!
That is how I am with true crime…I have quite the collection from reading…I love the idea of forensics and piecing together the crime…I know I missed my calling for my field. But lab work is ok too to help make people well again also. Another very compelling read (probably the best I read) is a book called “Buried secrets” it was about a drug ring busted in the early 80’s in Matamoros New Mexico…the drug ring leader (Adolpho De Jesus Constanza) was a cult leader and they truly believed if they performed a sacrafice prior to a drug run accross the border that they would become invisible to the authorities and the officials finally uncovered a farm of bodies buried there.
my computer is posting really slowly for some reason. I may get off and hit the hay.
It’s been a long one. I sure hope you are feeling better soon. It’s no fun being in excruciating pain all day. And men are pretty useless when it comes to that.
My ex spent a lot of time in battle zones so I always thought he had no sympathy unless I had guts spilling out or an arm missing or something.
OH I remember that one! That was a doozy!
My sis lived near the Zodiac killer area and was a total expert on the case. I told her she should get a bus and paint it black and do tours.
That book was a very compelling book..(could not put it down)..you absolutely need to have a strong stomach to read it though..I know I was ok only because many years back I use to sit in with the pathologists on autopsies for overtime help and I was able to handle the graphic descriptions in the book. But it was quite crazy to hear of all their beliefs in that cult they were in….unbelievable things they felt were true..
She was also out in the Laci Peterson area when it happened and that other girl from Modesto who disappeared in D.C. while dating a senator or something. Can’t remember the names offhand.
She’s the one who has her treadmill set up in front of the TV and watches TruTV when she exercises. You’d love her - she’s a stitch!
I wanted to be a surgeon at one point, so I’m not too queasy about the gory details either.
Do you remember the one that was about a serial killer in Europe - I think the book was Serpentine or something. He may have been Vietnamese or Indonesian. Killed a boatload of people. I’m not sure they ever solved it. THAT was one I couldn’t put down.
Also Zodiac was really good. My sis was doing live searches and visiting suspects. She is bananas.
I just feel better when I can help in some way with these missing children…makes me feel whole again as a person, which is something I really need given what I am dealing with.
I am really ticked now though about a few things published in the media over in Europe…
Kris - do not let ANY man have anything to do with your definition of yourself. They are just not qualified. Period.
It’s wonderful you want to help others. You are also doing something incredibly important being a mother to your little bean. Dont ever underestimate your worth.
Are you the one that is into the Maddy stuff? I forgot who I was talking to about that, was it you?
It just seems that whenever anyone over there has a point they want many to read about..that they somehow implement Madeleine Mccann’s name into it..so when people do a search on the net..they think they will read something of pertinance on the Madeleine case..and then something entirely different pops up. There was a company that had some sort of a grievance and a walkout on their employers over there recently and they wanted many to see what was up..so they used Madeleines name when they posed it to the media…to enhance the number of viewers on their grievance….Ticked me right off..and I emailed them too on that..
That is disgusting. Some people are such opportunistic assholes. Glad you wrote them.
yeah, that book was called Serpentine - written by a guy named Thompson. The weird thing is he got out after seven years and wanted to come to the US. don’t think he’s ever been caught.
That type of crap needs to stop…that is about a child missing..not about how unfortunate their working situation is…boo hoo.. Let the chips fall where they may and don’t use a missing childs name. Also a video game in Europe used Maddy as an endorsement inside the game (Halo 3) they are being beaten in the press over it (and should be)..shame on all of them….that is just wrong.
No kidding. That is the lowest of the low to capitalize on that for their own greed.
I feel if they truly wish to help then so be it…but the child needs to be found and things like that are not helping at all with the endeavor.
no - you’re right, it’s just wrong to fool people about something that important. it’s totally sleazy and despicable.
even if they had a link to a real site - it’s still bait and switch and just wrong.
I think of these types of things and I just know how much I wish I could fly out on a plane to help with all these searches. If I was able to do so I would if finances would allow…that would truly be my dream to be able to help with these kids and finding them.
me too. it would be heartbreaking work but there would be a lot of satisfaction in it.
Check out this link…it will tick you off too to read this…the press is even catching on to the trick of businesses doing this. Just type http: (beforehand)
//www.anorak.co.uk/madeleine-mccann/193425.html
I would do that every weekend if I could…and I’m sure I would be poo poo’d home here by a selfish person who doesn’t think you should help out and leave them to cook their own supper…
Narcissists think they are the center of the universe. Tell him to put his Big Boy Pants on and grow the f**k up.
If you only knew the half of it…He’s unbelievable..you’d think it was a fiction novel.
Give him a big, full-length mirror for a Christmas present.
I’ve lived with some guys very, very similar.
don’t let it go on too long. it can eat you alive and it’s not worth it. ever ever ever.
The only other person I can think of who is a bigger whiney Diva is someone like Mariah Carey…and she’s a woman…so it’s so unbelievable to hear a man complain and be picky like a woman diva.
Baby steps first….gotta get my health back..that is the first wrung of the ladder. Then continue the climb.
cecy…One Xmas I gave him a book on “Phone etiquette”..to unwrap in front of his family…even they all laughed, but I truly meant it…He is awful to talk to over the phone.
Absolutely. But don’t stop making plans. Give yourself a goal. And set a date to work towards so you don’t feel it will never end and you have something to look forwar to. If you lose confidence, talk to me or any one of us here - we’ve all been through it, we’ve all survived and thrived.
You’re still young and gorgeous - you don’t need to waste your life on a spoiled, selfish brat.
You have better things to do than babysit an emotionally immature fetus.
I have a date in mind..but I need to stop the fevers first..so that is my first date/goal. Then from there I will move forward.
your right though..I feel I have two babies under one roof.
well, they all are a little emotionally retarded for the most part. I blame their moms a lot for having such low expectations and spoiling them. no excuse though.
I’m glad you are getting it together. Your health will probably improve overall once you are not around the weight of it all.
Don’t I know that…I think I may hit the hay too…getting tired. The little one just woke up and is out of sync because of my being on vacation..so she is not in daycare right now. Gonna take her back to bed..I’ll talk to you tommorrow…Good night for now.
Good night, kiddo. Me too. It was nice talking with you - rest well!
OMG…. AND THE TRAIL STOPS HERE. NOW I AM LOST AND CAN’T FIND WHERE YA’LL MOVED
You aren’t alone, Mama…I can’t find it either!!!
OOOOOOOOOH HELLO BEYES
U STILL HERE?
Yup…how are you doing today??
SO GOOD — SO FAR. BOUT URSELF?
Pretty good…I’m at work…and we are having a Family Day/ 30th Anniversary celebration on Sat. I was put in charge of gather the photos and articles and stuff, weeding through it, and displaying the important stuff…it’s a little overwhelming!!
I BET. WHEN IT IS TO HAPPEN?
This Saturday, from 11-2…my 5 yr god-daughter is w/ her father this weekend, but I’m hoping to go get her, so she can spend the day w/ me… we are going to have blow up games and face painting and stuff for the kids…and my parents are coming up…they live about an hour away…:)
OH—–U SAID SAT.
IT WILL ALL COME TOGETHER AND WHEN SAT COMES U CAN RELAX AND JUST ENJOY
LOL SHE IS A GOOD AGE TO ENJOY.
I’m hoping so…between that and waking up everyday praying that they have found little Caylee…my mind is spinning…I can’t seem to stop thinking about her!!
Good Morning ladies…how are you?
I swear…she is 5 going on 15…I went to the open house at her school…cuz neither of her parents could make it…and she asked if I’d go…I was the only “parent” that stayed the whole time…so it was a really special time for me…to see her at school…
ME 2. BUT MAYBE U NEED A REALITY CHECK AND THIS SOUNDS LIKE JUST THE THANG. SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE WE ARE CAUGHT UP IN A NIGHTMARE WITH THE ANTS
Good morning, CA…how are you doing??
HEY CA
AWWWWW THAT WAS A GOOD EXP FOR U BOTH.
AM FEELING BETTER CUZ I SURE THOUGHT I WAS LOST. NOW THERE ARE 3
Hi Brown…nice to meet you! I am soooooo happy to be home…the roads are terrible here…power lines down…cars in ditch and they did NOT call a snow day….3 schools have no power and drivers are having to take kids home….we even had one of our buses go into a farmers field flew right off the road….I COULD CHOKE THE ONE RESPONSIBLE FOR SENDING OUR BUSES OUT TODAY.
Hi mama bear
Mama - me too…I know she’s a Monster (someone on another website referred to her as the Wicked Witch of Orlando…) but I can’t wrap my head around this…or any of that family for that matter!! My god-daughter disappeared at a Wal-Mart…and I was the one who realized it first…(her aunt was supposed to be watching her)…I can’t tell you the fear that hit me as I started running around the super store…I found her in the arcade…but those few minutes are something I will never forget…so I just don’t understand the Ants…at all…wow, I’m very chatty this morning…huh?? sorry!!
OH WOW. HOW SCARY CA. AT TIMES LIKE THAT I AM GLAD TO BE HOME BOUND AND JUST WATCH THEY KID OUTSIDE
KIDS…………
CA - Do you live in PA?? I live in SC…and they are getting wintry mix in the mountains (mainly in NC)…that sounds terrible…I can’t believe they didn’t call a snow day!! Is everyone ok in the bus that went into the farm??
DON’T BE SORRY……… WE WENT TI 6 FLAGS AND WE WERE A BIG GROUP. WE SPLIT INTO BOUT 3 SMLLER GROUPS. MY LITTLE 7 YR OLD GREAT NEICE WALKED UP TO US OLD PEOPLE JUST HANGING AROUND. ASK HER WHERE HER MOTHER WAS. SHE SAID SHE DIDNT KNOW. PISSED ME OFF SOOOO BAD. WHEN I CAUGHT UP WITH MOM I HAD A FEW CHOICE WORDS WITH HER. DAM I WAS PISSED
brown…no kids on that bus that went into the field thank goodness…driven shaken up but not hurt…I live in ONtario Canada…
ARE UR BABIES HOME NOW CA?
I LIVE IN PA
mama…3 are in school…2 babies are home!
I NEED TO MAKE A NOTE AS TO WHERE E1 LIVES SO I CAN KEEP UP BETTER. SHUDDA ALREADY DONE THAT
CA I THOUGHT U HAD 2 BABIES.
brown…would you like to be a part of our poll on when Paddy bear and timmy beans will find our baby caylee…starts nov 8…pick a date and a time of day if you would like to join….
mamabear…
Stacy is 17
Daniel 15
Dustin 13
Erica 4
Sea-anna 2
DAM—5 BABIES. NEAT
mama…erica and Sea (annie) are babies of hubby Sean Mcallister
sorry…bad wording…the babies are our biological…older three are also mine from previous marriage…
OH OK. GOT IT.
SO THE 3 ARE STILL AT SCHOOL TODAY?
so how about all those “caylee tips” eh girls….hundreds of tips…ya from psychics who all say diff. things…not real sightings..just ‘VISIONS…c is a joke
AM FROM A FAMILY OF 13
hi mama you here?
yah, older three are in school..in two different schools both have power…
LMFAO. I KNOW SHE IS SUCH A JOKE.
hi sharon
mama…you have 12 bros and sis’s?…wholly crap-
goom mornin ca hows it goin?
HEY SHARON. WE B HERE. ALMOST TIME TO FIND ANOTHER PAGE. JAN SAID WE COULD USE ANOTHER ONE BUT CAN’T MEMBER WHICH ONE AND CAN’T EVEN MEMBER WHO TOLD US THAT
is there snow by any one today?
not bad sharon…and you?
mamabear…it was a young and restless article…
I AM TH 7TH CHILD. RIGHT IN THE MIDDLE. 7MOTHER HAD 7 KIDS -DIED AND DADDY MARRIED AND HAD 6 MORE.
we got big storm here in ontario
lol mama you ok today?
wow….daddy busy!
GO FIND IT FOR US CA.
ca did you get my post yesterday about the name of college?
k
DOING GOOD SHARON. BROWN BE HERE ALSO. GITTIN CLOSER SHARON
118386 ———-The Young and The Restless : Soap Update for October 28, 2008
BEYES WE MAY BE MOVIN. U STILL HERE? DONT WANNA LOSE ANYBODY
OK READY E1?
hi to brown also.
COME ON OVER GIRLS:
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