An anonymous tip led police into the home of an innocent family today looking for the missing Caylee Anthony which ended up being a false lead. The police say that they had to risk it though just to be sure.
The deputies swarmed into the home of Wayne and Kim Tupper in Volusia County Florida which is about an hour’s drive from where the Anthony’s live. The Tupper’s daughter has an amazing resemblance to the missing Caylee and she even shares the same first name only they spell hers with a K as in Kaylee.
Wayne Tupper told Eyewitness News that about five deputies came in and asked to see his daughter. “So I’m waking her up, ‘Kay-kay, wake up’ and the the last thing I said was ‘Kaylee,†said Wayne.
The Tupper’s showed the detectives family photos and her birth certificate to prove she was their daughter and not little Caylee that has been missing.
It seems as if the Tupper’s completely understood the situation. Kim said, “If it was our daughter, I would expect them to do the same, but they are doing their jobs. They say they are most frustrated by the Anthony’s accusations that authorities aren’t looking for Caylee. Kim says their experience proves otherwise.
Wednesday George Anthony accused the press of paying the protesters to stand outside his home and protest. “You guys are paying them to be here, I know that,†George said. When i read that I thought about how sure he was when he made the statement that they knew who had Caylee and they were being watched right then. I wonder if this man actually believes what he blurts out to reporters.
Michelle Meredith of WESH- Channel 2 said, “You could tell by his face that he was not having a great day, but when he started talking he left no doubt.â€
Mike DeForest of WKMG-Channel 6 said, “For the record, we are not paying protesters.†Anchor Bob Frier repeated the same thing.
DeForest pointed out that the protesters aren’t around when Casey Anthony isn’t home. He said that the protesters have different reasons for being there, from putting pressure on the family to simply wanting to appear on TV.
911 calls made by Casey Anthony was released after she complained about protesters throwing rocks at their home and attacking her parents. “There are protesters still outside of our home,” Casey Anthony initially told a 911 operator during a 1:30 a.m. call. It was the second call Thursday morning from the Anthony home concerning the protesters.
We already called about an hour and a half ago and it took officers 30 minutes to get here,” Anthony said. “The protesters are now banging on our garage door and they’ve still been throwing things at our windows and our garage and now the media is here. My father is going outside and there is going to be a fight. So, please can you send people down here? There is now a physical altercation. You need to send vehicles immediately.”
What gets me about this part is how she demands that the police come immediately. How does she have the nerve to ask them for help from the police to protect her and her family when she doesn’t left a finger to help them in finding her own daughter. People talk about her rights to be out of jail but what about little Caylee’s rights to live a happy life. There is no doubt in my mind that Casey Anthony knows much more than what she is telling and her parents are covering for her to protect her now but no one is talking.
How dare anyone in this family criticize the authorities about how they are conducting their investigation in Caylee missing! When you don’t cooperate with them in finding her what can they expect. They are only mad because the law won’t do it their way. I still think that they wanted to steer them away from searching because they feared they were getting too close to finding her and then they would lose their precious brat too.
Personally if Casey Anthony would be my daughter, I would have kicked her out by now. I would not let her get away with the things she has done to her family in all of this. I have to sons and neither of them would treat me the way Casey treats Cindy and I love both of my kids dearly.
Now they have the Guardian Angels guarding their home and early Friday morning someone pulled out a Taser gun. While Orange County sheriff’s deputies patrolled the streets, the Guardian Angels arrived and stood back to back in front of the Anthony home.
The people’s rights out here are being violated. The Guardian Angels’ purpose is to keep communities safe. That’s it,” a Guardian Angels representative said.
Some words were exchanged between people in the car and the neighbors. Subsequently, neighbors said a Taser was pulled out. It wasn’t utilized, but it was activated. The car sped off,” Lt. Larry Spahn said. The Guardian Angels did chase after the car and they made contact with the people in the car a few blocks away and another confrontation took place after that but no arrests were made. It wasn’t said as to how long the Guardian Angels plan on staying at the Anthony home.
I know I wouldn’t want to be the Anthony’s and I wouldn’t want to be in their situation but let’s face it, they put themselves in this position. They went to the media to get as much coverage as they could get and now that they have it they can’t handle it and are complaining about it. Cindy wanted her face on every major network and she got it. At first they were out there physically looking for their granddaughter but as soon as Casey got o0ut of jail, the physical part stopped so they could be home and babysit the brat. Then they have the nerve to demand that the public go out there and find Caylee.
Well I guess I could be wrong in all of this but I still thinks the whole family knows what happened to Caylee now. If they didn’t know before I would be willing to bet they do now. How could they live under the same roof with Casey this long and her not talk to them about what happened? What do they talk about? The weather? Or maybe who won the Mr. Universe contest?
They expect us to believe that the subject is never discussed. Well I don’t believe that. All we heard about before she was released from jail was how they had to get her out of jail so she could help them find Caylee. Well Casey has been in jail and released three times and she is still not looking for Caylee. Exactly when is she going to start?
Caylee, where ever you are, please know that America hasn’t forgotten you and neither has the police. God Bless you sweetheart where ever you are.
Jan Barrett













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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackJan thanks for telling us about the police checking out a Caylee look alike story. It’s amazing that the little girl had the same name even if it was a different spelling and looked a lot like Caylee.
I’m glad the police are checking on credible leads even though evidence say Caylee Marie Anthony is dead. I imagine when a child goes missing, they get a lot of tips because many children of the same age look the same.
There are many three year old girls with big dark eyes and a round face and brown hair like Caylee.
This case makes me sick. You know darn well that Casey knows where this girl is, or where her body is, and the latter is the only reason I can see her not talking.
I also can’t believe they haven’t found anything yet. Casey just doesn’t seem that smart that she could hide or pull off something so well.
This is a well written post Jan Barrett.
You see this very clearly.
Thank you.
all these issues with the protesters would be avoided if Casey Anthony would speak up. It truly shows what type of person she really is (well we knew when she killed her daughet) but allowing her family to continue to go through this ordeal because of her own selfish issues.
it is an outrage and a damn shame that she only cares about her self. She is the one and only cause of all of this.
When she takes herself or gets knocked off her pedestal maybe she will repent and finally break down and 1. give caley a proper buriel 2. allow her family to properly grieve 3. allow the nation to mourn..because we are all mourning! 4. and will stand up and take responsiblity for her actions for the first time in her life.
Someone needs to email this story to the Anthony’s
I believe George and Cindy knew Caylee was dead the minute they opened the car trunk and smelled that smell. Cindy came close to saying that in her call to police.
They have since regrouped, realizing their granddaughter was dead and there was nothing they could do about that. They’ve transfered their loyalty and unconditional love from Caylee (she’s beyond their help) to Casey.
” If you can’t be with the one you love, love the one you’re with”
Casey’s “actions” speak louder than her words. The lying, stealing (stealing from her Grandparents?!!) the multiple boyfriends, the disrespect she has for her parents(the phone) all show the “real” Casey. A high school dropout who “bums” is not going to pull this off She needed professional help many, many years ago Just where was she all the years she was “working” Did she just drive around Orlando all day?
The part I am having trouble understanding is the fact that the Anthonys’ keep screaming about THEIR rights being violated. What about the tax-payers rigts being MAJORLY violated, what about the innocent neighbors, what about the Democrats that do NOT believe in what the Democratic News Media Group’s premise was to bail the Attention W Hore out of jail, what about the MILLLIONS of people that REALLY care about Caylee’s well being, etc…The Anthonys’ have ALL lied the whole time right down to their lawyers, what would make them think that millions would embrace them in a good way? They keep enabling their daughter and she them-enabler/codependent/codependent/enabler, why would, or SHOULD millions condone something they would not in their OWN house…They asked for what they got. Plain, simple, in a nutshell; Action to Reaction(period)
I’ve wondered, too, what “monster mom” was doing all day everyday when her parents, brother, boy friends and girl friends all had jobs or were going to school. I’m sure she was going nuts (or nuttier). Partly because her phone records show that she frequently dialed one number right after another until she got someone – during the lunch hour! And her friend Amy H said she liked to talk a lot. So what on earth was she doing – presumably with Caylee – for the last two years?
Jan mentioned in the above article that she thinks that “the whole family knows what happened to Caylee now. If they didn’t know before I would be willing to bet they do now. How could they live under the same roof with Casey this long and her not talk to them about what happened? What do they talk about?”
I agree in a sense. I think it’s possible that monster mom made up a slightly different story to tell her family. A story that puts her in a better light and one they want to believe. A story asserting that somehow Caylee is alive.
It’s just difficult for me to believe that she confessed to killing Caylee accidentally or on purpose and that her parents are still defending her this strenuously and insisting that Caylee is alive. I think monster mom still has her parents wrapped around her little finger.
Celeste – Agree totally.
BTW – I had not heard that the “anonymous” person or group behind her bail was the Democratic News Media Group. I’ve heard other possibilities. May I ask where that name came up?
Did anyone else notice that Casey was in “full make-up” for her most recent mug shot at jail?Grandma Cindy hasn’t had make-up on since day one. Another example of “actions speak louder than words” How do they function in their home with the elephant in the middle of the living room (all that has happened) all the time?
Every day I watch Nancy Grace praying that one just ONE member of the Anthony family would do the right thing and come forward with the truth. Cindy and George are clearly in denial and continue to enable the worthless daughter they raised rather than bringing closure to a granddaughter they could have saved. I don’t know how they can wake up every day, all of them knowing SOMETHING and none of them saying ANYTHING. Because I cannot bring myself to pray for this evil family, I pray for justice for Caylee.
Yes, Barbara and I’m sure you’ve noticed “celebrity style sunglasses” and the t-shirt (Caylee t-shirt) with sleeves rolled up and hem knotted to show off her butt as well as the latest addition of rosary beads! Makes me sick! And she and Baez hold hands sometimes. Double sick!
On NG last night Padilla said some things that made me wonder about whether brother Lee is more involved, way more involved. Now I’m thinking that if he was involved and the parents know it then that would mean they stand to lose both their kids and Caylee.
I could see that as being enough motivation for them to be as fanatically and insanely defensive as they are.
Does anyone long for the days when doing the hard thing, the right thing was honorable. No matter what happens, it is clear that ALL of the Anthony family has participated in this unthinkable act. Better to lose two children and give them a chance for a redeemable future. Casey is the most cold person I have ever seen, and is completely living in a world of delusion…again I pray for justice for Caylee.
Interesting quote here that supports was some previous bloggers are saying:
(Jesse is monster’s former fiance; for the first year of Caylee’s life he and his parents thought Caylee was his. A paternity test proved otherwise. The Grund family was heartbroken AND they know her well. Richard Grund, Jesse’s father, is a pastor and he wrote the following:
An excerpt from Jesse Grund’s Father’s myspace:
“Casey has turned out exactly the ONLY way she could have turned out. She’s never been held responsible for her actions. She has had her mistakes and the harm she’s done others covered up and excused. Accountability has never been a part of her life. The common term we hear about Casey from close friends and family is that everyone knew she had “issues”. Issues left unchecked, untreated and allowed to fester. Issues that were red flags a long time ago and should have been dealt with once Caylee was born. And, they weren’t.”
My note: And whose responsibility was it to deal with those issues back then? The parents.
So repulsive!
We ( America ) all want this charade over with.
The audacity of her to call the police and demand they come help her and her family when the protesters got out-of-hand. I am surprised she didn’t conduct her own investigation into the protesters! Please! She wants their help – but she’s not helping them!
After watching NG last night, I also believe that Lee Anthony may be involved more than what is led to believe. Padilla says ” It was Lee that convinced the grandparents not to take a lie-detector test.” This would lead me to believe that he inadvertently didn’t want to take the lie detector test, to save his own a**.
I wonder if the police ever searched Lee’s residence, car, phone records, etc…..
I guess I have arrived at a “Ghost Blog”…..
This whole situation makes me sick. There are those who keep saying innocent until proven guilty… I get that but as a mom I DO NOT and NEVER will get that she has done nothing to help in the search for Caylee, her baby.. she has lied and lied while Cindy, George and Lee back up each and every tale. Caylee like any child deserved love and care even if that meant her mom admitting she could not be fair to Caylee and would need to give custody to someone else and she should have then moved out and lived her own life ON HER OWN LIKE THE BIG GIRL SHE IS hahaha you know robbing her grandparents and such.. and to see what it is like to give that up for selfishness and partying and to see how far that takes her… she was too weak to do that for Caylee she still only saw herself, too pathetic, all I hope is the truth comes out, Caylee has a proper resting place.. Casey pays for her part in this — how could her own mom not protect her, she called the cops ASAP when the rocks were hitting the windows but over a month when her daughter is missing and after she was pretty much forced to. She wanted all evidence to vanish. Caylee is the victim here Casey not you… I think the protesters are giving you too much attention even if negative and should aid in searching for Caylee if in the area so you can get what is coming… no matter what you lose, people hate you so much, are so angry about this, no one can understand your lies… free on the streets or in jail you have managed to upset everyone… I don’t know how safe you will ever be. Hpw do you sleep in your moms home next to your daughters room and things when you know where she is and how you left her… how cold are you to be able to live with that.
Watching Nancy Grace last night left me in complete disgust. This selfish lunatic, has the odasity to call the police and demand they protect her parent’s home, while she can give no insight or cooperate with them to find what is “supposed” to be her pride and joy, Caylee! I am not for protesters disrupting the peace of the neighborhood, but I do understand their trying to make it uncomfortable for Casey to live in public….she should be in jail for murder. I can hardly believe any jury in this country would believe this psychopath waste of human life. When this case first broke out I would think of Caylee every day, I would cry and pray for her safe reurn home..to her grandparents. Now, I am enraged at the entire family! It is no secret what Caylee’s fate was, now all we can do is give her the proper goodbye her family should have. By the Anthony’s covering for their nasty pathetic daughter is only a disgrace to their beautiful loving 3 yr old grandaughter who should be here in place of Casey, trust me I don’t think anyone would miss her.
MyTwoCents, The name of the company is Press Corps Media. Unfortunately I cannot get to their website, I did try to get a web address. It looks almost like its been page-jacked-ANYWAY, on their site they list their titles, history-employment, politics, etc…and are intensely dedicated Dems. Being involved is good, however when it turns to an addiction-like religion, as an example lets say, its bad! They also scour the Internet for “lies” and for the good of the people, which I AM for, and tell the truth. They dispel the rumours. Todd Black, of PCM stated that, “while he/they do NOT agree with what she has done, they strongly believe that her “rights” as a human were violated.” I personally believe that she threw those rights out the window when she blantly lied, the whole world heard; when she refused, refuses, to talk the whole world sees. Im one of those NO PARTY people, and this kind of left a bad taste in my mouth, it makes one wonder.
Hi all, I’m back and ticked off that the MOMSTER thinks she’s a princess.
Her call to 911 makes me want to vomit!
I find it amusing that the call center reps shot her down a peg by treating her like they had NO clue who she was!! HAHA~! She thinks shes getting one over on the world, she wwill learn the hard way.
Its ok, they are JUST making it worse, actions speak SO MUCH LOUDER than words. They cannot blame the media, or the protesters or whom ever else, they GOT what they wished for. Be careful what you wish for, you WILL get it, albeit not QUITE the “scenario”/way you wanted it.
They better solve this case, or other sicko mothers and fathers are going to try to pull the same stunt. Kill your kid, dispose of the body, then play the martyr. Meanwhile you’re co-dependent family members circle the wagons to protect you.
I got a laugh out of her calling the protesters punks! I mean, boy, she should look in the mirror….
She’s such a piece of dirt.
Why can’t C&G just stay put in their home and call police, rather than going nutz-o.
ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) — The State Attorney’s office has officially filed more charges against 22-year-old Casey Anthony.
Anthony was arrested earlier this week for new theft and check fraud charges. She was bonded out of jail by her attorney, Jose Baez.
The State Attorney’s Office said three more formal charges were officially filed on Friday
momster was quick to call 911 when the protesters are out there fighting with grandmomster and grandpopster, but NO WAY IN HELL did she dial 911 when her kid when “missing”
figure that one out!
It’s clear George and Cindy are spoiling for a fight to get out their frustration over this whole mess. They can’t see that the person who caused the problem is inside the house, not outside.
grandmomster and grandpopster LOVE the attention they are getting by all these protesters out on the “public” street protesting
they walk out there front door, down the driveway and into the street to confront these people! STAY IN YOUR HOME!
what grandmomster/popster should do is send momster out there…..hehehe I would show up for that!
The call to 911 makes my skin crawl. Did you hear her snottyness in her voice. LIke people should jump as soon as she says so?
Two words for that “PUNK” = General Population!!!!!
where is the guy who is the media ‘spokes person’ for c and g thought he was handling all of this? and why are there no more ‘body guards’ at the house? see they like this attention
i’m putting in my application for hire as “body guard” of the monster clan….and then after they fire me for letting in all the protesters INTO the home….oh well, check that skill off my resume!
momster had some nerve calling 911 for help, where was this call when her little one was fighting for her life at the hands of her loving, caring mother….GOD she makes me SICK!
p.s. haven’t been blogging for a few days, so my anger towards this is built up….sorry : (
Has Lee been under the microscope at all? I think he should be…….
Easy, I hear you… I’ve been in and out as well…
Where is the Count these days?
Hi Desert,
I think his time is coming very quickly, too!
Not sure how I feel about Dr. Phil getting into the story now…
Also, too bad NG had to share the hour with creepy simpson!
One day this family will have to own their role in this mess, but until then , I believe they are soaking up the air waves while they can….
Also – in the very beginning of this mess, Cindy A. made a statement about her daughter, “At least my daughter isn’t like Susan Smith, she didn’t leave her babies in the bottom of the lake.” As we already know, because of Casey’s “gut feeling” that “Caylee is close to home”.
SICK-O – All of them!
Dr. Phil! I do love him, but he will only add to the sensation of this circus!
Oh my goodness…..
dr. phill…that butt head! he tried the same thing with britney spears, getting in on the money train, that’s all
who in their right mind would run a story about this before knowing ALL the facts? what’s he going to do, put momster on stage and ask her the one and only question the world wants to know “where is your daughter?” “what did you do with her body?”
don’t get me wrong, i do like him, but come on now – what’s he going to do PAY them for their story, if that’s the case – i say ban the show, ban him! if he does puts a story out there and gives them a penny (for their thoughts), i will ban him forever
To Orange County 911 Operators: The next time Casey calls, tell her; “We are absolutely, most definitely coming to help you….in a backwards kind of way, after we stop by Universal Studios to look for the protesters”.
Touché – CHRISWOLFE…..
She is such a moron. I think she feels “privileged” to have a cop for a father – she thinks she is above the law. And I think her dad has allowed her to be above the law – by never making her become accountable for any wrong-doing she has done.
Way to breed a monster!
Easy going Mom, I read where Dr. Phil was interviewing the Anthony’s new defense attorney and the neighbors. Dr. Phil is Mr. Fix It. Of course, he thinks he can fix every problem in every dysfunctional family in America.
CHRISWOLFE said,in September 19th, 2008 at 2:39 pm To Orange County 911 Operators: The next time Casey calls, tell her; “We are absolutely, most definitely coming to help you….in a backwards kind of way, after we stop by Universal Studios to look for the protesters”.
Very funny. Touche.
and c + g are the president and vice-president of dysfunctional family club.
don’t give them anymore air time, they had their share, get out and look for you missing granddaughter – that what your claiming here, she out there ‘lost’ – ‘missing’
Just because Dr. Phil can relate with the blue-collared-country-bumpkin crowd, doesn’t mean he can solve their problems. He really needs to remove himself from these high-profile cases, because it can hinder his credibility.
But his credibility is already in question…right?
i agree, desetrose : )
fine do a show about this, BUT after, after she has been charged with murder one, and after she is sitting on death row, and after mom and pop come to their senses and realize that miss-princess is NOT telling the truth
again sorry, i am normally not like this
(blogging like this…very upset, at least that’s what i am feeling on my end here)
ok i need a glass of wine! it’s 5 o’clock somewhere!
Even if the precious child doesn’t have family that “TRULY” cares about her – she has a whole nation that does!!
Karma is a b*tch!
Trust me easy going mom – As each day passes, my frustrations with this case only deepens. I know what you mean. I usually don’t consider myself to be a “rude or angry person”, but this case has touched a nerve.
It must be that motherly-instinct to protect. I guess? We could only wish “someone else” had this same instincts!!!
Chriswolfe- Well said!
On the audio recording of monster’s call to 911 she left the operator hanging – she left the phone – after saying she’d give them the tag # of a car involved in the fracas. What nerve! Also I noticed that a second police person joined the 911 operator talking to monster. I couldn’t tell if this was an adminsitrative type cop at headquarters or the cop in the car going out to the scene. But she had the help and attention of two cops on the phone and she still left them hanging!
Amy I think Count Dracula is busy getting ready to go after individual protesters – although it was interesting that BoBo the Boob “hired” investigators to find the people that threw coins at the house and pulled G’s t-shirt. After all the property and house belong NOT to his client but to her parents. So why is he involved? BoBo strutted like a little peacock he was so proud that his investigators “found” them already.(Before the cops – the cops did not have that as a top priority I’d like to tell him) Well, yeah. A TV news crew had a bunch of tape, the Ants have surveillance tape and OCD Grandma had car tag numbers!
My question is where is BoBo getting all the money to hire investigators (on top of the PR firm he hired?)
Chriswolfe:
I absolutely, most definitely, in a backwards sort of way LOVED YOUR RESPONSE!
Someone should make up t shirts that say
“I am absolutely, most definantly telling the truth in a backwards sort of way”
I bet millions of people would know what that phrase meant without even saying Casey Anthony’s name. They would become best sellers. LOL
She just doesn’t care – and that’s sad
I should not care for her daughter more than she does!
Sh*t, we all shouldn’t care that much, but we do!
My two cents – can you explain the nicknames – BoBo & Count Dracula?
BoBo – Casey “the clown”
Count Dracula – Cindy?
Funny
Kimi – I would buy a shirt!
Very Funny
desertrose: Last night on NG Leonard Padilla said some things that indicated he thinks Lee has known more or something significant since Day 1. And that Lee is responsible for talking his parents out of taking lie detector tests – and he refuses to take one too.
So for the first time I’m thinking brother Lee may be in deep. And remember way back in the beginning either he or monster or both had said how close they were. She may have gone to him for help. I’d pick Lee over Jesse who was already disllusioned and hurt by her. (If she had any help that is).
Desertrose: some of us wanted to deny notoriety to some of the scumbags involved in this case and came up with nicknames:
BoBo or BB = Jose Baez (also butterball and turkey)
Count Dracula = Mark Nejame- he looks like him!
LeeVic – Brother Lee with Vic because he kicked over the water dish of a protesters’ dog.
C & G – Cindy and George
Ants = Anthonys
monster mom – you know who
“I wonder if the police ever searched Lee’s residence, car, phone records, etc…..”
This is my post from earlier today and I definitely think this should be followed up on!
So Sad -
Casey’s call to 911 shows she DOES know the number and can be very detailed when she wants to. Yet when her ‘child’ as Casey call her has supposedly not been seen for 31 days, she does not call 911. She parties.
I am just so sick of all of this. I wish LE could/would go ahead and indite Casey. Casey and the Anthony’s have too much press/media time. Somewhere in all of that, the focus is taken too much off of little Caylee.
I am just so sick of Casey’s and the Anthony’s games. They have also made a cottage industry with the t-shirts and wristbands. Hopefully, that will be put a stop to if enough people complain.
I pray to God that little Caylee will be located. If she is somehow still alive, then that will be so wonderful! If she is not, then little Caylee deserves to have a proper burial with the dignity and grace she so clearly did not have in her last days with her so-called mother!
MyTwoCents – I see,I see!
Smart move!
I will not be the reason their price goes up for interviews…….
Vultures
Has anyone heard the mentioning of Lake Jessup?
Apparently, this is a alligator infested lake. It is believed that Caylee may have been taken there.
All this speculation……can drive the most sane person bananas…..
So, the headlines read, “Cops and Guardian Angels increase patrols as protesters mount.”
Even more resources wasted/invested into this charade.
She needs to come clean before she looses her own life or the lives of her family members, at the hands of a passionate protester.
Jan I agree with you so much! When she said “You need to send vehicles immediately” I wanted to reach though the computer and RING her neck! So high and mighty! UGH its drives me nuts.
I don’t agree with the protesters bothering the neighbors – using their young children to demonstrate. I have to say they have been extremely obnoxious and idiotic at times. But there is another part of me said GOOD Drive that little BITCH crazy!
Get used to the “Punks” outside your door Casey. I hope you have to deal with them the rest of your natural born life!
God Bless little Caylee
Hi Catherine and Amy,
I love this one you guys: LOL
CHRISWOLFE said,in September 19th, 2008 at 2:39 pm To Orange County 911 Operators: The next time Casey calls, tell her; “We are absolutely, most definitely coming to help you….in a backwards kind of way, after we stop by Universal Studios to look for the protesters”.
desertrose you are right… its touching a nerve and makes me just so angry.
I do know why this case just haunts me.
I look at that little face… and see my own child at her age. It makes me want to protect her, advocate for her, fight for her, find her!!
It’s 5 pm here..
Alot of our regular posters don’t seem to be in today, and before we know it NG will be back on, sure hope she has something substantial to tell us,
did I read correctly earlier in this blog that M is being charged with 3 more crimes or was that post info. from last week?
just more regarding the checks =\
Finally a voice of reason has spoken,
Thanks Jan, we all feel yeah..!
Casey knows the differents between the truth and a lie, we all heard it on the 911 call..
Everything that Casey said on the night of Sept the 17 to 911 dispatch was
THE TRUTH
Everything before the 911 call on the night of Sept 17 was….
A LIE
See Monster its not that hard after all!
I bet her Lawyer Daez was crapping his pants when he her the recordings…I wish I could of seen his face..LOL
I wonder if the police could conduct voice analysis/comparison. For example we know that some of what Monster said on the phone to cops the other night was true. But 99% of what she told the cops on July 16 was a lie. Probably not necessary. Just would be interesting.
cj – two news orgs worded the report differently. One said 3 “new” charges but the other said the state was “finalizing” the three charges they placed against her earlier in the week. So it’s 13 economic charges so far.
Everyone I have read in tis blog believes Casey is a liar.
Personally M (AI) don’t make sense to me, she doesn’t answer the detective question she answer the question that her mind is thinking…
desertrose: good point. If they didn’t before maybe they will now after hearing some new stuff from Padilla about LeeVic. I hope so. I do think he’s hiding something.
The last time I heard it was 10
thanks 2cents
NG was right on it when she said that Casey Said the 9th of June, Over and over again…
If that was her child she would remember the exact time and date.
But, did you know that Cindy on the stand for her bond release hearing said the same thing over and over again…the 9th…Maybe they didn’t have enough time together to get their stories straight?
there has been to much talk about this story.im sick of it. she will talk sooner or later.
Cindy also said that Monster and her have been talking about Zany for 3 years now…
She also said that there was no need or reason to meet Zany…
so brother only heard of zanny for a month and mom did for 3 years, makes sense..
oh well,
catch everyone later gotta go for now.
Thats what mean, I guess when Cindy went and got M from Tonys house that day July 15 Everyone met back at Ants house. LEE too…
While Cindy was probably shocked. Casey and Lee went into the bedroom by themselves and were talking…I know this cause Cindy stated on the witness stand for the bond hearing back in July(?) or August
In the hand-written statement to police, Casey stated that she dropped Caylee off at Zanny’s apartment between 9am and 1pm. If you ask me, that is large time frame.
I know when I drop off my daughter at pre-school, i can give you a time of drop off from between 7:55am to 8:15am.
Far from a 4 hour time frame she provided police with!!!
Well M also said that she left Caylee on the stairs like she always does…WHAT! Then what walks away not knowing were her daughter walks off too..
She doesn’t make any sense…
There have been many times I have dropped my daughter off in the drive way of a friends house, or just outside the house.
Also –
When my daughter would go to the babysitters, she would always come home talking about what she did that day. It was always, “Becky this, Becky that, Becky painted my nails, Becky doesn’t do my hair that way, Becky, Becky, Becky…….
Yet, Grandma Monster didn’t know anything about Zanny? Hmmm.
Just another confirmation that Mommy monster is full of sh*t!!
This little game she thinks she playing, is going to come to and end real soon….
I think she thinks that this is a movie and she’s the main actor…..She is role playing here..
Let me guess…Bad ending!
Of course she thinks she is a movie star – wearing those flashy sunglasses, high-fiving her brother when they thought they escaped the “paparazzi”.
Disgusting!
My little girl stays with me, but she is 1 this Sunday….But, I would think that I have enough sense to get all the info on the person watching my daughter…
As much down talking she did about Zany. What was she a drug dealer? Real nice..
Yeah that was cute to watch,
Great plan Lee, HIGH FIVE…we did it…LOL
So, she thought Zanny was a drug dealer or shady person – Just who I would trust with my kid…..way to look into it Monster!
She is a sad excuse for a human being, yet alone, a mother!
I never blog before this case… Its alot different then chat rooms…(for me back in 2000)
You don’t know if your talking to yourself?
But I guess its set up that why so you can say whats on your mind, then move on..
alliethinks – I agree with you 100%
I had never blogged before this case either, but I felt so compelled to say what was on my mind.
Screaming at your TV can only release so much!!
I have never watched a news story and cried. This case is a first for me, in many aspects.
I just feel for the people who truly want Caylee back home, their hearts are hurting.
And I am not talking about the family…….
No,I know there is no such person named Zany that watched Caylee…This is all made up to cover up..
But, what I do think is that this person she made up sound like a drug dealer..
Exp.. changing phone numbers and addresses… the whole time she allegedly watched Caylee?
I did the same thing,,Screaming at the Tv…
My husband doesn’t understand..
Yeah,
I guess it could be a drug dealer, but i can’t imagine Mommy Monster being affiliated with powerful drug lords. She is such a peon…….
This is just a mess – either way!
I’ve seen your writing before this…
I read more then I write….
Its hard to chat cause it takes so long back and forth…
plus, I can’t stay long today. Family night out…
LOL –
And then it just breaks my heart when my 4 year old daughter comes into the room and asks, “Who is that little girl on TV?” I have to explain to her that she is lost from her home and no-one knows where she is.
The look that comes to my daughters face – it tears my heart into a million little pieces.
I can’t even imagine telling my daughter that her Monster of a mommy did something really bad to her.
Could you imagine your own children fearing their mother could do something like this to them?
Not I – So I just play it down – “Little Girl Lost”
So sad
Hi, alliethinks! This is my first time on a blog too. So far I’ve found that it varies. It depends how many people (if any) are on the blog when you are. Sometimes there are only a few – usually earlier in the day. And sometimes there are lots of people posting for a while – usually at night. But usually it is something of a “conversation.”
Part of the problem is like somebody may be posting a note right now as I write – so I won’t see it until I post this one. And some people don’t “read back.” So I could post this but not look back to see something posted while I was writing this.
You’ll see some specific two-way conversation for example like I addressed my note to you. To hopefully catch your attention. The key is for people to “read back” at least a little bit when they come on so they can see where the conversation is, maybe learn something or see a comment they want to comment on and then hop in with whatever they want to say – which does not mean it has to be on the same topic!
Stand-alone comments and opening new topics are FINE!
But mostly we do try to converse. It’s just that this comment might end up posted three or four posts after yours.
I hope you come back or stay or BOTH! It might be hopping tonight or slow because the news on the case is slow right now. But please don’t give up. There are a lot of people following this case on bloggernews.net. You’re more than welcome here!
Have fun with your family – every moment counts!
Especially the small ones!
Hey I can’t wait to read what everyone says about tonights NG…in the morning.. Take care Desertrose. husbands home..LOL
Goodnight, Allie
This is an extremely sad case because of all the obvious selfish reasons of the entire family. They want to save face and get life back to normal but dont want to come up with a logical explanation as to what really happened to Caylee. I want to know why the authorities talk so nice to her and why arent they getting tough with her? She will break if she is interrogated properly. Keep her up for hours and have some of the toughest interrogaters out there come in and dig for the truth. They already have concluded what she has told them are lies. Don’t settle for that. Drag the damn truth out of her if it takes days for her to give in. She knows what happened to her child. Don’t kid yourself.
SouthernGrl08 – She won’t be interrogated that the right way now that BoBo (Baez) is in the picture. Come on, what kind of lawyer would he be if he let that happen?
Ever since she lawyered up – she has not spoke with investigators.
Classy lady – pleading innocence – riiight!
I am obsessed with NG right now – I turn it on hoping to hear that the little witch finally confessed. I know – wishful thinking. However, last night, Bounty Hunter Padilla stated that his security woman (she was placed in the house with Casey when he originally put up the bond) was checking with attorneys to find out if she could be accused of withholding evidence before she met with investigators!! This meeting was supposed to happen this morning so hopefully NG and Padilla will have an update for tonight!
I hope that once Monster Mom is charged with murder, the rest of her crazy family is charged with obstruction or even worse!!
I’m a new “Poster” and must say I have enjoyed reading all of the above thoughts!
God Bless little Caylee.
SouthernGrl08 – Police can’t talk to her any more at all since her lawyer, BoBo, has told her not to talk to them. She could if she wanted to – like if she really wanted to help. But of course she doesn’t.
Thank you, HorseyJunior –
We look forward to hearing your thoughts as well.
What a mess this is, right?
horseyjunior, welcome!
I didn’t quite catch what Padilla meant about that woman investigator. You’ve probably got it right. I guess I thought at first that the investigator was worried that monster could sue her or something. Maybe there will be more info on NG tonight.
If these people have a conversation with Mommy Monster, why do they feel their is a confidentiality agreement with her – the minute she said something that raised a red flag in my opinion, I would be on the phone with the OCSO or someone!
Is it like when movie stars hire security, they have a confidentiality agreement with the stars?
If so – who is paying for this security.
Is it compliments of her lawyer/flavor of the week?
My son is 23 now – and he’s still my baby. I have always believed in “tough love” though and he has turned out just fine. This whole situation has created discussions in our family on what we would do. I PRAY I never am put in such an awful position but I do believe I would see that my child would be turned over to the authorities. What an awful thought….but it’s the best thing for everyone.
I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend. Thanks for the company today, yall. It was very soothing to vent a bit…..
My prayers are with Caylee.
horseyjunior – this case has a lot of good messages for mothers of sons – messages to pass on to their sons! Like “watch out for nut cases like Monster Mom!” Look how many guys she’s been thru! If it’s too easy, it’s too sleazy, I say. And also, looks can be deceiving (boy can they!) I hope your son has or will have a great gal!
Mytwocents – You’re right! I tell him that ALL THE TIME!!! Mom’s know best! Well, we’re supposed to anyway.
I can’t wait to check back tomorrow to see the feedback. I hope there’s new updates to this fiasco.
Have a great evening.
Hi All,
I’m back again for the long haul. I’ve been in and out for the past couple of days. Each day hoping to hear some new conclusion or the discovery of little Caylee. Sadly, not much new in the case except to hear that friggin’ 911 call where Momster refers to the protesters as “punks”.
I can remember my lovely great mother tell me, that I shouldn’t throw stones at glass houses.
Does anyone know yet what the three new charges that were filed by the state today?
Amy, those were the charges she was arrested on last week relating to stealing Amy’s checkbook and forging checks to herself.
Watching the WebCam setup infront of the Ant’s house, flood lights went on.. mysterious black truck in the driveway? Could it be Big Butt the attorney?
really, the article made it seem that they were new charges. Shoot… thanks
I can’t believe the Ant’s would think the media would be paying the protesters? What will they think of next?
I don’t believe Lee or Cindy had ever heard the name Zenaida Gonzalez until the night of July 15 when Casey made up the story that the babysitter stole Caylee. They lie for Casey and have been all her life.
I agree, this is all news for them… yet, they’ll change their story, too.
So quiet in here tonight!!!
I emailed the Attorney General of Florida this week. I wondered if Caylee could not be made a Ward of State and have a State Attorney appointed. It seems that this little girls interests are not being represented very well. I’ve not had a reply but maybe the people on this blog could do the same thing, pressure sometimes leads to action and this girl does need a voice. You can find the AG email address on the FL government web site.
That’s a great idea…. Some pressure with the AG could only help!
TXBoy great idea! Little Caylee does need an advocate!
The state might try to say that law enforcement (LE) is her advocate and in a way that’s right. But like you said I think an individual acting specifically in her interests could do more and different things than LE can.
It truly is just a matter of time until the hammer drops for the momster!
wonder is the momster is having withdrawls!?!?!
You know from drinking, drugs, pole dancing and the cornocpia of men?
I think its time to do away with the constitution and just put her back in jail and beat it out of her after all we have decided she is guilty and that should be good enough to kill her right? We dont need a trial or any of those legal things, they just get in the way. We know she could not possibly be innocent so why all the waste of time just kill her and get it over and we can move on to the next one, maybe your kid or family, lets see if you have anything bad in your past we can tear apart, that could be fun too. oh, and by the off chance caylee shoud somehow show up alaive well we can just chalk it up to bad luck and move on.
hey it IS quiet here, havent watched NG yet, have to make dinner too, be back in a few.
Enjoy, CJ~
Michael, she needs to get her booty-butt back to jail and give her neighborhood a break.
Michael, you said… “I think its time to do away with the constitution and just put her back in jail and beat it out of her after all we have decided she is guilty and that should be good enough to kill her right? We dont need a trial or any of those legal things, they just get in the way. We know she could not possibly be innocent so why all the waste of time just kill her and get it over and we can move on to the next one, maybe your kid or family, lets see if you have anything bad in your past we can tear apart, that could be fun too. oh, and by the off chance caylee shoud somehow show up alaive well we can just chalk it up to bad luck and move on.”
Michael, evidently, you don’t understand the difference between human nature and the legal system. Ms. Monster will get a fair trial. She will have jurors who are able to put aside everything they’ve heard or read about and intelligently listen to the evidence before making a decision on whether Ms Monster is guilty or not guilty. You seem to have no faith in the human race or our judicial system. Just because people discuss issues of concern, which they have every right to do, does not mean they can’t put aside their opinions and listen to intelligent facts and understand reasonable doubt.
So, tell me something… if Jeffrey Dahmer would have been out on bail would you have gladly trusted a son, relative or even yourself to stay with him alone because you would have considered him innocent until proven guilty?
Just remember …you can’t have it both ways!
does anyone else find it odd that all the Ants had only a vague recollection of Father’s Day—they didn’t know caylee was last seen on 6/15 vs the initial report of 6/9 until police found pics on the camera.
Did something happen that day that they are all tiptoeing around? Seems like they would have celebrated George or Cindy’s father that they went to visit and would have had a clear remembrance of that day being last sighting—unless something happened that day they are avoiding?
Well first of all i like to start with is I think casey is messing around with her lawyer. Know way 6hs. a day to talking about the case. Jose Biaz is trying to making a name for himself.I believe I read on myspace that Cindy anthony wrote ” I lost my grandaughter I’m not gone to lose my daughter” before this whole mess became public. Did anyone else see it? Also matter of public record that the anthoy’s were devorced on dec.29,2005,The year casy was born. HUH! Cindy is a nurse she knows what decomposition smells like,George was a detective on the police force knows all the in and outs of investigations. Why hasn’t he been charged with attack on a elderly 65 we all seen it on tv. is it because of being ex-cop? Last time I knew that was a felony offense.Casy is a phyco but she was smart enough to wait so her precious little ANGEL decomposed.I pray for little caylee but at the same time pray for casy’s just desert. I pray the book is thrown at her.Just a matter of time which I honestly believe it will be sooner than we think. GOD BLESS YOU CAYLEE
Thoughts, you’re absolutely right. Father’s Day is the day Cindy took Caylee to the assisted living facility to see Cindy’s father. Cindy found out from her mother that Casey had wiped out her father’s assisted living bank account. Cindy cashed in one of her retirement accounts and paid it back.
June 15 is also the night the neighbors heard Cindy and Casey yelling at each other. Supposedly Casey stayed over night and June 16 is the last time anyone saw Caylee. George says he was the last person to see Caylee and Casey leave with a back pack on their backs. Cindy was asleep. No one has ever found Caylee’s back pack.
Hey guys, Michael is probably Dak or Reasonable Voice trying to taunt us again. Ignore him.
Again – nothing new on NG tonight. so sad
It definetely is quiet in here tonight. I think it is because we are all so exhausted from this case….
Hummm, I wonder….
wow – “michael” sure had a mouthful tonight…….
knock, knock…
Who’s there?
Thanks Amy, I just read up to this point, guess not much to comment on here, may get back to work for now and check in later.
Okay, cheers, CJ!
Desert Rose, did you catch NG tonight?
The whole Marine thing is very suspect.
I assume, the FBI can read the text messages?
I caught Nancy Grace, Amy. Padilla said the Orlando detectives were in California questioning a marine who claimed Casey Anthony text messaged and emailed him June 16 that she had something to tell him that he wouldn’t like that her mother and Lee already knew. She wanted to get to California to tell him. I think Padilla is hinting she wanted to tell him about killing Caylee. I think she may have wanted to tell him she got caught stealing money from her grandmother and wanted to borrow money from him.
good night all
Peace be with Caylee, where ever she is…..
I agree with the gentleman on NG who said he thought monster was just trying to get the marine to pay for her flight out to California. Being that it was 6/16, most likely the day she killed Caylee, she was probably hoping to get as far out of town as possible. That way C&G would not know that she didn’t have Caylee anymore. Once in California, she would have probably made up more lies to tell the marine, maybe something like she decided to give custody of Caylee to the Ants.
Night, desert…
CAC, but do you think that they have actual “text messages” logged?
MMT – Good thinking! And I agree!
I do also believe that while she spoke to the marine on her cell, Caylee was in the trunk of her car. It probably took her a couple of days to find a place to bury or dump Caylee.
Yeah, she was looking for a free trip.
She’s never met him, right?
Also, who was that gentleman that said that?
Don’t you just love how when she speaks to investigators, that she always responds with an affirmative, like “Absolutely, or Yes, For sure, and so on… Then the following statement is like, I’m pretty sure, or yeah that number is on the phone, but I lost the phone. Or I’m almost certain I have that on my computer.
The kicker, was when she said that she filled out an incident report when her phone was stollen!
I think Lee knows more than he’s saying. Might even be involved. I can believe that a little more easily than thinking that Jesse is involved. Jesse might suspect her and he might even believe that she “did it” but I don’t think he’s involved. I know we go back to that call he said he got from her where she told Caylee to get off the table but we know she lies and she could have done that just to postpone him or others finding out that Caylee was gone.
I agree, MTC, I think the whole table and caylee bite was just a hoax.
I’m sure the cops checked up on whether she filled out a report when she lost her phone but I never heard about it. Just another lie probably.
I guess I’m really surprised that she didn’t use that month to come up with a plausible story. The way it turned out seems like she was caught by surprise and unprepared. That’s really stupid.
I can’t see Lee trying to help in ditching the body, but I think he knows what’s up!
Yeah, she spent that time clubbing.
Did you hear the part of the interview tonight when she said that she went to those clubs & bars looking for the nanny.
I mean good golly!
Me too, Amy. He’s protecting himself and his sister because if the cops find out he knew about it and did not report it I guess that could be “accessory after the fact” or something like that. I mean why not take the lie detector test?
We sure did see the pictures from that search!
I think she’s going to use the “I was too afraid of my mom” excuse for why she didn’t report Caylee missing right away. She’s going to find someone to blame that’s for sure. And after sticking by her C is going to get kicked in the teeth.
mytwocents, I totally agree with you about every thing you said,in your September 19th, 2008 at 10:18 pm post. Except that I still think that monster did this alone. I don’t think she trust anyone. Padilla is the one planting all these thoughts about an accomplice and I just keep remembering how wrong he was at the very beginning. No real thread there pulling that theory together, other than Padilla believing that Caylee was too heavy for monster to get rid of the body. I disagree with that.
Amy, I have no idea who that gentleman was that mentioned about monster wanting a free trip to CA. I think his first name was Bill but that’s all I remember
Exactly,if they were really interested in finding that baby, they would all take the test, so the focus will get back on finding caylee.
Funny, how this whole family is involved in one way or another.
I wonder if Count represents Lee, as well? I don’t think so..
Yes, Amy. That was a very thorough search! LOL!
She’s SO good at undercover work I’m sure the cops can’t wait to hire her!
Just as an aside…
Amber Frey of Scott Peterson fame has felt the economic pinch. Her house is going on the auction block.
It sounded like from the interrogation tapes that Casey just loves making up stories in elaborate detail. She doesn’t think first. The shrinks on Nancy Grace said that is typical of pathological liars.
I can always be sure every time Casey Anthony opens her mouth, a lie is popping out.
I think the extent of Lee’s involvement might be just knowing about it for a good while. It’s only slightly possible that she asked to meet him and then got his help in ditching the body. But I don’t think she needed his help or that she necessarily put it in that dumpster like Padilla is saying.
Has anyone heard if Lee has a lawyer? I would think so at this point even if he’s totally innocent. But I haven’t heard about it.
The cynical side of me says he’s got an agent now (to help sell more rights – like the rights to the photos for 20/20. He had to be involved in that for sure)
mytwocents, that funny that you said…
“I’m sure the cops checked up on whether she filled out a report when she lost her phone.” because I thought the same thing as I watched the show. Plus, I bet LE even tried to check out the fact that Universal issued her a cell phone in the first place. She’s told so many lies that there is no way she is going to get away with this. I’m sure LE would like to find Caylee’s body to have even a stronger case but they will eventually charge her with murder without a body.
Well at least Amber escaped the “blocks” that Peterson tied to his wife when he sank her! Awful thought but true.
I didn’t see any “guardian angels” tonight?
MMT – I agree. And I think they’ll charge her with murder or manslaughter or something either soon or near when the child neglect charges are tried.Is there a November deadline for that?
I think you have misssed my point all togehter..if she was charged with a capitol crime then by all means keep her in jail, but in the truth of it she was not. She was charged with much less of a crime for which she should have the benifit of bail. In my opinion that was a big mistake, she should not have been charged untill the state was ready to go forward with its case and they had all thier ducks in a row. She would have had the freedom to move about and would have shown her trail by now, that is not going to happen with her lawyer protecting her as it should be. all im saying is this is turning into a witch hunt like it or not, and dragging the family into the public eye seem to be a new twist on justice, how many cases have you seem where the state leaks evidence like they have in this one, and do you really belive everything that is being leaked is the truth i have my doubts.
MMT, I doubt she was issued a phone from universal as well.
I think that’s a bunch of bunk, too!
Monday Morning Therapist, Casey said she filled out an incident report with Universal, when she lost the cell phone. The cops didn’t have to check because they already knew she hadn’t worked for Universal for several years.
So everything about the cell phone was a lie including getting two cell phones from Universal for her job,(she had no job), one cell phone getting lost when she left it on her desk at Universal (there was no desk) and Zenaida’s and Juliette’s phone numbers being in the cell phones (there is no Zenaida or Juliette so their phone numbers are not in any cell phone she had.)
I’m sorry, but I’m hunting for witches, goblins and gools until that family unlocks the truth to this case and Caylee can get the respect she deserves.
IMO
Be careful folks, Michael may be an Anthony or one of the defense team lurking and trying to cast doubt in our minds about the investigation.
Of course I would love to see her get life or the death penalty, but at this point rather than nothing, I’d be satisfied to see her get 30 to 40 years. Just think of her knowing that she is going to spend her youth in jail and telling lies to other liars. LOL And getting out when she’s in her mid 50′s. Not really enough but better than nothing.
Hi Amy, 2cents, MMT. Whats up.
Concerned about Caylee.. holy crap… you’re right. I’m getting carried away with my thinking. LOL Thanks for pointing that out to me.
Okay, I’m back to normal now… or as normal as I’ve ever been. LOL
Concerned: Thank you for clearing up the cell phone thing. I didn’t realize or remember the supposed “Universal” part of the story/lie.
Also what you said at 10:42 could be true but only if he works for the PR Firm, hired by BoBo because NG already made it clear how unprofessional and amateur they are!
Hi Michael… I mean Dak!
That’s so funny, we’ve been bloggin’ with one another for a while now, our writing styles has such inflections…
Hi Dak, welcome!
Amy, I can’t see any Guardian Angels either on the live web cam and I can’t find a story about it on news web sites. But I don’t know why they would not be there tonight. I’d expect more trouble on a Friday night.
Take it easy MMT I’m not that person trust me. Did anyone watch NG tonight.
I thought Michael was Dak. Seems like he always pops up when we have a troll on board.
Dak… I’m curious, do you just pop in here and start writing or do you try and catch up on some of the comments before you start writing?
Could you guys give the different personalities a rest it really is childish. I do try to come on the blogs sometimes to have a civil conversation.
Hi, Dak!
I have to go now but it’s not because of you! I just realized what time it is and I’m tired.
If you all move to another page tonight please leave a clear trail of bread crumbs for the rest of us to follow!
Hope to talk with you tomorrow and hope you all have a good weekend!
I do try and catch up on some of the comments why MMT.
Concerned about Caylee, I noticed the very same thing about ‘Dak seems like he always pops up when we have a troll on board.’
Dak, I’ve been on this site for a long time and you have cried “It’s not me” before and it was you! How can we ever believe you again?
got to love this i have a different point of view and low and behold im an evil person Dak i think you said, so he had a different opion too i assume?
Okay MMT that was one time.
Actually MMT what time were you talking about.
I have to get going, too!
See you all tomorrow.
NIght night all!
I only used one other aka and that was Littledaddy.
Dakdude3 said,I do try and catch up on some of the comments why MMT.
Because we just talked about watching NG… and then you come in and ask “Did anyone watch NG tonight?”
Gotta go!
See ya later MMt.
Anyone else here
Im here but seems im not really welcome because i have the wrong opinion for the site
Its okay Michael some of these people have issues beyond anything. They seem to think I have 5 different aliases and i don’t. They accuse me of coming on and starting trouble when its them that start it. As soon as they see my name they start, and it really is childish because it makes it hard to converse and be civil about it.
If you go on this blog link and say anything like you did above you would see what I mean. They would say you were me with a different alias.
oh i understand how they feel and maybe why they go on the attack but the truth is the truth like it or not.In following this case as everyone is i was ok with it untill a few red flags popped up that has me doubting some of the leaked info from the state. Some of it just is not possible and cant be true and some of it is half truths that the media has ran with and made it look true but noone wants to talk about that.
Like what kind of stuff.
Michael still here
well the big one is the chloroform..if you follow the timeline it is just not possible for that to have been found in her car when they said it was. her car was left on june 28th or 27th, then towed on the 30th, then set in the lot untill it was picked up on the 16th, it was opened and inventoried at the lot according to the lot attendent then open again by LE on the day after and again when the dog searched it, and again when test were taken at the police impound and you can see the trunk lid open everytime they show it on NG. I worked with chlorform for 27 years and i know that it could not have sustained itself for that length of time. it dissaptes very fast and could not have been found the way they said it was. there are possible ways for it to be there but not from casey that is not one of the possibilites
Wow now that is interesting. I always thought the chloroform was probably what htey use to extrct the DNA and got mixed up with the air sample.
The other thing is the air samples..a friend whoo i will nto mention told me that the so called air samples are in reality samples of gasses given off from the samples of material found in the trunk not air samples taken from the trunk that was blown out of the truth by NG and it has stuck after being repeated so many times. and he should know the truth but we wont go there.
Cool, now we learn more.
true chloroform is used to set the dna tests but that would have come later in the lab and should not have been a factor, but on the 15th or 16th if cindy did try to clean the trunk she could have set into motion a reaction that would have produced it in amounts that could be detected when they tested the samples i think they know that but have let the media run with it as is and have not said a thing. look NG puts things out there that are just not true and she demandss that her guests agree with her its just her way of doing things but we cant buy into all of it
I have always thought and still do a little that the DNA(hair, etc) weren’t 100% conclusive. I know there has been talk about the death ring on the hair sample that can only come from a dead body, and Leonard Padilla keeps saying that, but have heard nothing like that from LE.
Okay wasn’t sure exactly how chloroform works. Thanks.
I am suprised that none of the other bloggers I have blogged with have found this blog. People like Kris, Catherine, Sabrina, etc.
no you have not heard that, and you wont if it were the case she would be in jail, they as of yet dont even know if it is calyees hair or caseys which raises a much different case altogether but that is yet to be seen. and LE has gone out of its way to say they have reason to believe this and that but wont or have not come out and said we can prove it. its always we think, well thats not good enough, there is just way too much we as the public dont know about this one
True and unfortunately most of the public think that its solid evidence when its not. I think people are taking what the source close to the investigation is leaking versus what LE is saying on national TV.
Leonard Padilla ha ha ok so he is being pain by NG for his opinions to keep the show going whats new? Him and DOG the bounty hunter are just about alike follow the law when it is in your favor but do it your way when its not. Padilla is out for the money and fame so dont belive a word he says.
Really. NG is looking a little worn out with this case.
its not this case its the one she is fighting in court that is doing her in she seems to be loseing and that will take her down a notch
Oh I forgot about that case and I do hope she loses she is somewhat of a b****.
NG was called in before a review board on ethical standards and told to clean her act up or else stop putting out all the half truths and lies will she …who knows?
Either way I never could stand her.
I don’t know if Casey killed Caylee or even if Caylee is dead but either way she will have to pay for something, and thats okay with me.
Nor can i but the side show was always a big draw at the carnaval untill they did away with it now its on cnn in another form
I like that its funny.
true, i hope she is ok but dosnt look good. either way caseys life is down the tubes but i do hope it is for the right reason, i would hate to think that someone has caylee and we as a public do away with casey and later find that she didnt kill her.
Unfortunately most of society has already tried and convicted her and that scares me a little about where our country is headed.
i have to go i have a staff meeting in the morning and its getting late, hope to see you again later.
Later.
Looks like a fox is in the hen house.
IMO-the piece of trash, skank momster, deserves the same treatment as she gave to Caylee.
Hard to “spin” DNA – G&C, go back to the whole that you came from.
Good morning!
Here I am again wondering if I’m just being naïve regarding how much of the Ants actions are a cover-up and how much are boldface lies to save their daughter from going to prison. I’ve pretty much ruled out anyone’s actual involvement in the disappearance of Caylee, but I’m open to theories, with solid facts to back up them up. Kind of like threads pulling it all together.
Because of monster’s lying we have so many unanswered questions. My hope against hope is that they find Caylee and since LE pretty much proved that there is no such person as the fictitious Zenaida, that monster made up, sadly we can assume that precious Caylee is dead.
Dak, Dak, Dak, …Dak, Dak!!!!!
Man! I don’t know what you’ve done in the past, but they really harbor some deep seated grudges against you don’t they?
Perhaps it is because of your former trespasses that all the new bloggers get snubbed.
MMT…the sheriff’s office has repeatedly cleared the Anthonys of any cover up.
Reasonablevoice, I guess I worded that incorrectly. What I meant to say is that I don’t feel ANYONE had involvement in helping monster with her evil deed. I do realize that the Ants loved Caylee and would never have harmed her. Sorry about the mistake!
I think one of the real mysteries for us is WHEN did monster actually abandon her car at Amscot? I’m hoping LE knows a little more about that then what they have released.
Well, I believe she is guilty of something; however, at this point I’m not certain exactly what that “something” is.
She just seems so co-dependent to have acted alone.
Should have said “too” co-dependent
And let’s face it… how much of lying has to do with basically covering up for someone?
I think a lot of what we are seeing from the family members is more of a reactionary behavior that most of us would probably go through given the same circumstances.
They (the family) may be lying to the media….they owe them nothing and to tell the truth may hinder their own investigation.
As far as Casey’s lies, well, apparently no one has ever been able to get a handle on that.
However, her lies do not make her family guilty as well.
I don’t think the Ants are involved per se but I can’t help suspecting that something isn’t right with them for two reasons (1) C, G & L won’t take a lie detector test and (2) their really strange and changing behavior and statements thru this.
I read that C & G agreed, then refused after Lee refused….Padilla’s words, how credible is that?
That doesn’t mean Lee is involved. It may simply mean he has unearthed some vital information he is not willing to divulge at this time for reason of finding Caylee alive.
Reasonablevoice, you said “She just seems so co-dependent to have acted alone.”
My view is that monster held each relationships, (meaning friends, family and lovers) all separately. She deliberately had them disjointed so as to continue with all her lies.
Even though she had all these people who she talked to daily, in a strange way she was pretty much a loner living in her web of lies… .not trusting ANYONE.
Sorry, RV, did not see your “reactionary behavior” note before posting my last one. Yes it could be that but man is it weird.
MMT – You wrote: “she was pretty much a loner living in her web of lies… .not trusting ANYONE” Yes and I can’t imagine what her daily life was like for the last 1 1/2 to 2 years. What did she do all day? She had to have Caylee with her? Where did she go?
I know someone said she sneaked back home and I’m sure that’s true but not everyday. There have to be many, many days that she just wandered somewhere with Caylee!
I would disagree MMT…after reading the docs I was under the impression that many of her friends, as well as those who made derogatory statements against her, felt as if they were “tight” with the person they assumed to be their friend at that point in time.
I do not put a lot of stock in what Padilla “believes.” However, yesterday on NG, Rob Dick confirmed that Lee told them that monster’s reaction to the trunk air test was devastating and they almost had to call 911. Rob’s inside person, who was there when monster heard the news, saw monster’s lack of concern. NOW, that’s what I call a boldface lie coming from Lee and him trying to cover-up his sister’s lack of emotion.
The cell phone bills would implicate she was doing something. I can’t imagine her parents paying $700 phone bills for her to talk to her imaginary friends each month or bi-monthly.
Perhaps what she was doing was not exactly on the “up and up,” and she may have known or she may have been totally oblivious….all the facts aren’t in yet and the way this entire scenario has unwound, I doubt we will ever know the facts without a lot of BS being interjected.
Rv – I don’t think she was really “tight” with anyone. She played a role with everyone. Even long-time out of town friend Ryan Pasley – who also said she had to “one-up” everyone.
Yes they all assumed she was telling the truth as we naturally do with people we know. None of them had a hint that she was lying about anything. Even if one or all of her “friends” were truly good friends TO her at that point, monster could never tell any one of them the truth without risking (a) the friendship and (b) worse – exposure.
MMt…sounds like you are describing two totally different reactions from two different people.
May I inquire where you found this info? I’d like to see it too.
Mytwocents, I was under the impression that G watched Caylee during the day until two weeks before 6/16. Which meant monster had all the freedom to pretend she was going to work… didn’t have Caylee with her since dad was watching Caylee. But, when G got that job, monster was then responsible for Caylee. So, really that was only two weeks that monster was dealing with Caylee on a daily basis… not two years. And she cracked… couldn’t do it because Caylee was cramping her style.
2c…I thought about that too; however, I felt as if that said something about his insecurities more than it made a statement about Casey’s mental health.
Goodmorning,
What plays over and over in my head is…
WHAT is it that M told her brother and mother that she wanted to FLY to CALI to tell her beau “in person”> ????
Had she actually met this guy or was he an “online friend?”
MMT – Thanks. I did not understand that G watched daily for that long. Unbelievable! And if she only had full-time care of Caylee for two weeks and either screwed up or deliberately refused to deal with her – then quadruple unbelievable!
Reasonablevoice said,in September 20th, 2008 at 8:40 am “MMt…sounds like you are describing two totally different reactions from two different people.
May I inquire where you found this info? I’d like to see it too.”
Reasonable… I don’t quite understand what you mean by the above, please clarify. Thanks!
Rv – You wrote: “I felt as if that said something about his insecurities more than it made a statement about Casey’s mental health.”
You are referring to my note about Ryan Pasley?
The problem is that her “one-up-man-ship” is seen in some of her other relationships with friends. She told Amy H that she had “$15,000 in the bank” and her mom was giving her the house” etc – all this to a wanna be actress who is working her butt off as a waitress.
Even her long time friend Kio told Monster that she should “get help” (meaning counseling) so I don’t think all these observations reflect more on her friends than on her – they reflect her character and each one bolsters the other. They are independent and different.
MMt…a clipped view:
monster’s reaction to the trunk air test was devastating and they almost had to call 911.
verses
saw monster’s lack of concern
Can you see how I may interpret these sentences, or partial sentences, as being opposite?
Also, someone posted earlier that it is a matter of record that the A’s were divorced the same year Caylee was born, anyone ctach that or know more about this??
Rv = they are opposite. #1 is brother’s story and #2 is a security guard’s story.
There is far more reason for a brother to lie – and even if he’s telling the truth Monster could be lying because the cops have found that out and she’s in even more trouble! In fact the only time she’s cried in public was for herself at her hearing!
And Why would the security guard bother to lie? And it may be what this security guard is in some trouble for now too.
cj – Good morning! I saw that post but I had thought that C&G were separated then and ALMOST got a divorce. Never heard before that they actually were divorced.
I imagined that the rift could have been about monster being pregnant and/or C’s insistence on keeping the baby.
At that age I think their character isn’t fully developed just yet. And, I have to say that since I find it impossible to become personally moved by what I read about this person.
It’s not reading a book from front to back, having the author paint a picture of how a fictional character really is. It is more of a lopsided view and I have to put weight on a side that has none to maintain my own sanity I suppose.
At 22, in order to adjust to your environment, I would assume one would have to put up many fronts to be perceived as anything remotely resembling a human being when mainstream society expects people to be as the characters they see on TV.
cj, I don’t believe monster for a moment when she told that marine that she already told her brother and mother something. I think she was just trying to get his curiosity up so that he would offer to pay her flight to CA. She probably had Caylee’s body in the trunk and wanted out of FL as soon as she would find a place to dump the body. In her pea-brain she probably thought she could start a new life out in CA without Caylee and without her parents knowing that Caylee wasn’t with her. Monster would have probably taken the lie to the limit telling her parents, over the phone, that she took the “nanny” to CA with her.
Just more speculations on my part but I wouldn’t put it past monster that she was making money prostituting during the time she was leaving the house for years pretending to go to work… maybe working the streets somewhere. That would pay for her cell phone wouldn’t it?
Oh…Good morning all! Please excuse me…I’m not scrolling back often enough and I am doing several things at the same time.
thanks for your input mmt.
hard to know what i think, anymore..
i am thinking more and more the family
has been in on all of this for awhile,
a long while..
i go back to when C spoke w/M one of the first times at jail, recorded message,
when C and M say things almost in unison
and then the “no’s” wish i had that transcript right now..
That’s an excellent point 2C!
It is for that reason alone that I believe Casey isn’t lying about everything.
I think that some of the stuff she told was actually true…her mother may have called her a sociopath in order to deny her statements about paying rent, etc.
Rv – one thing I definitely agree on although I’m being kind of un-nice about it (sorry in advance!)
You wrote: “…to put up many fronts to be perceived as anything remotely resembling a human being..” That’s exactly what monster did. Put up different fronts to different people. Even the “perfect wife” front for last boy friend Tony – “cooking, cleaning, shopping, etc” as per Tony and roommate. I don’t think MOST 22 year olds have to do that.
They may want to seem cool but they actually ARE a student, a waitress, a part-time DJ etc.
She was NOTHING!
Reasonablevoice said,
“monster’s reaction to the trunk air test was devastating and they almost had to call 911.
verses
saw monster’s lack of concern.”
Reasonable: These two statements came from two different people.
Lee said told Rob Dick that the monster’s reaction to the news regarding the results of the trunk air test “was so upsetting to her that they almost had to call 911.”
Rob Dick’s friend… who was in the house and actually saw monster’s reaction to the results of the trunk air test said “She was unemotional and showed no concern”
It looks like Lee was trying to cover up for monster’s lack of emotion.
Rob Dick was on NG last night.
That’s a good point cj.
I thought that too. It seemed that in the beginning Cindy was running the show based on her own emotion, and the others decided this wasn’t going to benefit anyone.
Yes, MMT, but we don’t know if the person observing was interjecting how one SHOULD react based on how they perceive they would react given similar circumstances.
Sorry, Rv. I’m reading and writing too fast and getting out of order on posts. What is the reason you think she’s not lying about everything?
BTW – even the professional psychologists don’t think she’s lying about everything. People like Monster mix a bit of truth with their lies. And they use a bit of truth to make up their lies.
Okay…I’m gonna hop in the shower now…be back in a bit.
cj it is my understanding that G filed divorce papers at that time but never went through with it. He was having an affair at that time and wanted out.. but evidently reconciled with C.
oh wow, how sad is that, so G was having an affair, i do not know if they actually divorced or not, but if you scroll way back someone made the note, they said it was a matter of record, so i dont know.
the OTHER thing is if the A’s Loved Caylee so much why did they LET who they THOUIHT was the father (Jesse) and his parents raise her the first year of her life?????….
cj – myfoxorlando.com has a Timeline. Various articles written at various times and if you look for an article about monster calling her mother it might be there. Or google Casey Anthony jail house calls. I remember the recordings and I’m sure they are out there. I don’t know if those calls were transcribed, though.
MMT – I bet he is really sorry he reconciled. And I bet his former flame is really happy he did!
Where was monster living for a year or more after Caylee was born? She stayed with her parents, right? Even after becoming engaged to Jesse?
cj – monster let everyone believe that Caylee was Jesse’s so naturally his parents were happy to act like good grandparents to the child. Plus at first their son was engaged to monster.
cj two things.
One… At the very beginning I heard that G only filed for divorce and never went through with it and it was a matter of record.
Two… Jesse’s parents were just baby sitting Caylee not raising her. Ants were always raising Caylee right from day one. Three years ago C, G and M all had jobs (well, not sure if M was at Universal or not then but she at least pretended to have a job) so Jesse’s parents baby sat Caylee during the day. Then G lost his job two years ago and watched Caylee during the day. Then G got a job again two weeks before all this happened
right but if they loved Caylee THAT much WHY did they allow her to live with the other family, regardless of who they thought they were at the time..
rv, re C & M, i just dont have the time to look up that jail conversation, maybe another day.
mytwocents… I had to laugh at what you said because it’s right on….
“I bet he is really sorry he reconciled. And I bet his former flame is really happy he did!”
Too funny but true!
mmt-
I heard that Jesse and family literally raised Caylee for the first ten months…
also, M worked at universal back in 2002 at age 16.
I feel better…smell better too!
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cj
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Caylee NEVER lived with the other family. They just babysat during the day. Did you happen to read my other comment… I kind of explain it there. Now know how easy it is to miss peoples comments … I have done that myself many times. LOL Please let me know if you saw it. Thanks!
mytwocents,yes, you are correct that monster lived with the Ants when Caylee was born.Even after becoming engaged to Jesse.
yes i saw your comment AFTER i wrote back to you the first time, yes this can be hard to follow sometimes but i got it. THX mmt. so you have clarified that Jesse and family only babysat, wow, i so remember reading they kept her for ten straight months.
Well here it is the weekend and we don’t have much else to go on, same old, a few more official charges = 71 years behind bars..
yeah right..
but still praying they find Caylee..
I need to get for now but will check back again later.
cj
I read a few posts where people said that Jesse’s parents baby sat for the first 10 months but I never heard anyone say that Caylee lived with them. Even when I watched a TV interview of Jesse’s father, he said they babysat Caylee for the first months after she was born. He never said Caylee lived with them. So, someone may have misunderstood and posted in incorrectly.
Sorry CJ.. you posted that comment while I was writing mine. Oops! LOL
I understand, no prob. mmt.
Lol! That happens sometimes, doesn’t it MMT?
I’m a fast typist but not without error sorry to say. Don’t you hate to see your typo AFTER clicking the ‘Post My Comment’ button? YIKES!
Or am I the only one on here who makes mistakes?
nope
Gotta go!
BBL
See ya…sorry…just got busy doing something else.
I think this entire Caylee Anthony (remember her?) show should be on at least BravoTV. They do a nice job of 13 episode shows and the finale is guaranteed after the 13th show. No hanging questions, etc.
Really, the whole mess is just a screwed up script anyway. Who says what and who says something different. Who lies and who doesn’t believe those lies. They all get makeovers and new hairdos. (like Casey did)
Now, we have the Guardian Angels watching the house. Even better!
See, the reality shows put lots of people in a house for 13 weeks and film it all. Everyone gets into cliques and form alliances, eventually stabbing everyone else in the back.
Maybe Casey and Cindy and George could go on to the NEXT season and it could be a new topic, not “what happened to Caylee”. Maybe .. like.. ummmmmm… “what happened to Lee?”
See..they could go on and on until they run out of family members and then the show is cancelled.
Then they go into post-reality oblivion, and after a few years, they all show up on “Dancing with the Stars”.
See, everyone is putting too much into this case, its just a joke like most entertainment on tv. Only thing is there seems to be a dead child somewhere that no one in her family cares about.
Oh, well.. NEXT!
Does anyone know which friends went to Puerto Rico?
Hi, Pluto! Monster’s friend Amy H went to Puerto Rico with her roommate Ricardo Morales and two others – not sure who they are.
That’s the same Amy who loaned Monster her car while on that trip and whose checkbook monster stole.
Amy’s been interviewed six ways from Sunday and Ricardo (a former boyfriend of monster’s) too. I think if there was reason to follow up on that, the cops would have done it.
I think the Ants are focusing on Hispanic locations because the non-existant nanny zanny is Hispanic (oh and half-black, too, according monster).
Personally if Caylee went missing its because M did something trouble to her…
I’ve hear people say ” Maybe M is afraid of the person that took Caylee, and she doesn’t want to get Caylee hurt…”
To those people I say, ” Wake Up! ”
Caylees face is all over the place. If this story was true… Then 3 months later is a good time to start telling the truth, CAuse if someone was to hurt Caylee then, its already been done….
And for all the men out there, don’t be fouled by a pretty face…. diffently don’t feel sorry for her ….
Thanks mytwocents. I just had a way out thought that she sent the remains to Puerto Rico with “friends.” Not possible I guess. It was a dumb idea, but I just wish they could find the body of Caylee.
BTW, wouldn’t it be a shorter list to make of those who WEREN’T M’s “former boyfriends?” LOL Let’s see, if you weren’t a former boyfriend, raise your hand!
Hi…just checking in…doin’ Sat. chores today.
Do you suppose what she may be trying to say is that the Casey Williams that Kiomarie (whatever) mentioned may be the African-American mix of whom she spoke?
Or, is she just thinking up suspects since she doesn’t really know?
Or, is it that she has some form of diabolical masterminding criminal mind of which no one could have foreseen?
Seemed to me that the Kio gal mentioned Casey couldn’t remember crap.
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alliethinks
All you said in your September 20th, 2008 at 12:08 pm post was very logical!
pluto
I’m still laughing about you saying “Wouldn’t it be a shorter list to make of those who WEREN’T M’s “former boyfriends?” Let’s see, if you weren’t a former boyfriend, raise your hand!” Too dang funny! We need those kind of cmments now and then. LOL
I’ve been keeping on eye on the blogg, and I found so many great bits of information regarding the case, that I missed previously. I’ve been multi-tasking over the past couple of days and tried to stay in the loop.
Thanks to all those “consistant” blog-fessional folks.
Hi MMT…you must check back as I do. I found the others on the last blog. Apparently some may feel a bit insecure about their own intelligence.
I had no idea that Dak had such an impact on everyone! Haha! What a character! He doesn’t really bother me because I know for a fact he isn’t the only one who amuses himself by trying to fool people online.
I just think his way of taking on different personas may be his unorthodox way of saying, “On the other hand.” Perhaps he is an aspiring actor/actress or the next great novelist.
I appreciate that you stand up for differing viewpoints.
Hi Amy…didn’t see ya there….you didn’t show up until I sent the last one.
Rv – I believe M herself described zanny as part hispanic and part black. And yes it was Kio who said that M was having trouble remembering – like she would forget she’d already told Kio something a day or two earlier and tell her again.
Also, no. I do not think Moriarty is at work here but I do think we need Sherlock Holmes to solve it.
Lol! That’s funny.
It does seem a bit tangled doesn’t’ it.
Gotta go check on laundry…I’ll check back…just poppin’ in here and there. Apparently I scared a couple off earlier…they don’t know who is on their team it seems.
If the marine in CA, Hawkins, got lots of calls and texts from M on June 16 (night of big fight with C), basically saying she had “something to tell him that C and L already know” I wonder – pure speculation – if she was going to tell him he was the father so that she could fly out to CA and escape?
When that fell thru she might have planned or accidentally killed little Caylee. Just a thought.
So, are you saying that at that point is when her semper went into overdrive?
Rv I guess I still think that what Monster wanted most was out of that house! Out from under her parents. She’d been there all her life – even as a mother herself!
Since she had no education and no job the only way out was a man. She’d tried often enough God knows. ALmost made it with Jesse. But we know Ricardo wasn’t serious about her (and she and Caylee slept in the same bed with him). And we know that Caylee never spent the night at the next boyfriend’s apartment (Tony).
So it’s not difficult to believe that she blamed Caylee for her failureto “get a man” and thus get out from under her parents’ thumbs.
I think you have a very good point there 2C.
But, how long had she known this marine? Was he once stationed in Fla., there visiting, or just exactly what was their connection. I was under the impression from what I’ve read that they were online friends; furthermore,even Tony Lazzarro stated he met Casey on Facebook.
Given that scenario, I am open to almost anything happening since so many think they are now part of the CIA thanks to the Internet. It amazes me how ridiculous they can actually be.
I say that out of personal experience…I’ve tried online dating before and people seem to have a plethora of imaginary images of who or what they think you may be…it’s absolutely endless. I suppose the same is true in real life as well.
But, back to your point….I suppose that is possible if her parents were actually demanding she step up to the plate and start paying rent and acting like an adult. Thus far, it appears as if she never actually did that. If this is the case then perhaps it was inherited…though I’m not sure from what I’ve seen that Cindy couldn’t easily make it on her own…sometimes these ideas and attitudes come from the culture surrounding the person.
Thanks MMT. (your 12:39 post)
And I agree, M wanted out of the house and to be taken care of by a man. She is so much like my sister it is scary. Even the thing where she told the 911 operator, “You NEED to …get here immediately.” (can’t remember her exact words). But telling someone “you need to…” is taking an authoritative role. It shows something about her…she feels ENTITLED to order people to do the things that she believes are their RESPONSIBILITY to do. YET, she feels no responsibility for anything.
This is my sister, bi-polar and who knows what else. They feel very entitled, demand much of others, and delude themselves into believing that others owe them..and they villainize those who don’t comply with their wishes. But they exclude themselves from any accountability because they are able to blame someone else who supposedly failed giving them something that was OWED to them. My sister NEVER pays rent, yet has her children completely believing that the landlords who evict her are evil because……fill in the blank. Yet she will sit and rant about (and get even with) people who don’t abide by the rules when it costs her something. It’s maddening!!!!
Reasonablevoice said,in September 20th, 2008 at 1:19 pm… “Apparently some may feel a bit insecure about their own intelligence.”
Reasonablevoice said,in September 20th, 2008 at 1:38 pm “Apparently I scared a couple off earlier…they don’t know who is on their team it seems.”
Reasonable, don’t you think using the above phrases appears rather condescending? This wonderful site is no different than any other place where there is a multitude of different personalities trying to understand one another. Each comes from a different background, hauling their learned values with them. Trying to fit in and not intentionally step on anyone’s toes. We all have different likes and dislikes. Personally, I’m not particularly fond of lying, cheating, disrespect and a pompous attitude. I love a good debate though!
I don’t think people on here care if someone is short, tall, fat, skinny, black, white, yellow or red. It doesn’t matter if someone is of high, average or low intelligence or if they have great or poor typing and spelling skills. EVERYONE on here is concerned about Caylee and justice for Caylee. Everyone on here has something good to contribute to this blog. Something to make us think… So, you see there are no teams… just individuals.
Thank you for clearing that up MMT.
Though, bare in mind that my phrases were responses to their phrases.
I’m going to read and catch up on all that I missed with comments made today.
BBL
Bravo MMT.
RV, did you mean to say “bare in mind?”
And don’t worry, you aren’t that scary, so I’m sure you didn’t scare anyone off! LOL
Hopefully, none of us will feel insecure about our intelligence. It only takes a heart to want to stand up and speak for Caylee, not intelligence.
Pluto
Hahah….yes, it sounded less pompous than the ‘naked truth is as thus:’
lol!
RV, it was probably a subconscious way of expressing how frustrating it has become to get the naked truth out of M!!! Not that she has any trouble getting naked though. Ok, now I’m just not being nice am I?
How funny…hey…gotta go meet a person…talk later!
Pluto…I’m back…are you out there?
The police and FBI and grandparents need to
get this 22 year old spoiled rotten child
to talk and they can’t keep accommodating them.
Who cares if people are outside there house.
They deserve everything they get.If caylee is
dead.They are in denial not just Casey but the whole family.She is not a responsible adult,
because the family catered to her and they
still are.She tells them what to do not the
other way around.Casey does not care about any body but herself she was probably envious of her
own daughter.The baby took all the attention away from casey.Casey probably had caylee,but
wanted to go out to party and have a good time
took chloroform to knock her out.Finally when she
got done having a good time came back to find the baby dead.And then got rid of her body with the gas cans she got from her fathers garage.And i don’t need to say more.I feel terrible and i don’t even know them.
I missed the Nancy Grace show the other night so this question may have been answered then but I was wondering if the young girl Caylee was able to speak yet? Was she able to say more than just her name? Could she carry a conversation? Does anyone know?
Hi Concerned…still there?
Hi Mich
Hello Rv Hello Concerned.
What’s up Dak?
Been talking to yourself again?
No but I guess other people think so.
Apparently…they are really in a world of hurt, aren’t they?
Yeah, but I don’t really care let them think what they want. As long as I know the truth it’ll be okay. Although you better be careful too because some people think me and you are the same as well as My2cents/ Michael and a couple of others.
Thats part of the reason i don’t come in here that often anymore. I’m not going to give them the satisfaction of getting me riled up as I am trying to change things around in my life right now.
Well, from what I’ve read I think they drink a lot and watch a lot of TV…gotta give ‘em their delusions don’t ya think?
Say, and perhaps it’s nun my bidness, but, what did you do that was sooooooooo awful that they can’t forgive you?
Yeah I guess so. So what new around here I try and read the blogs but because I don’t get in them for most of the day there is a lot of reading and when my name is mentioned in a bad way I tend to just turn awy and leave.
I have no idea what I did. There was a time before that I admit I did come on a try to rile it up a little but that was once and over a week ago and I try to be civil .
I just got back from looking at houses and trying to get in my apartment(lost the key), and was on the other blog and saw some things said about and chose to come here.
I’m torn between the facts in this case I want believe Caylee is alive but the evidence is overwheling that she is dead.
They say they are individuals; their actions speak differently.
Sorry to hear about you getting locked out. I’ve done that before. Actually, I’ve done it so many times I can break in without leaving marks…lol! I just look for something to pry with. I used to live in a house with burglar bars….that got quite challenging…had to take them off so I could get in the house! Haha!
Yeah it does suck especially with 2 tired kids ready for bed. It was defenitely a day i wouldn’t want to do again, because my mother-in-law was with us and boy did she get on my nerves but I was good guy and kept my mouth shut.
Mother-in-law….good grief! Why on earth was she there?
I really hope LE does something soon to get this case closer too wrapped up. Too many frailed nerves on here and its just killing people to not know the whole truth. Just get it over with.
She was there to help with the kidds when me and the wifey went in to talk to one of the agents about financing stuff, options etc. Of course she was mostly saying are sure you can afford this or that and all that crap.
I know how you feel. I once locked the keys in a car that was still running and was inside the airport for more than an hour and a half. When we came out my brother went and got a slim jim from a cop and we got in…never could find the cop to give it back because I kept circling the humongous airport….Lol! They won’t let me live that one down.
My brother kept saying, “Boy, this is a huge airport!”
I didn’t want to confess that I was lost, especially after locking the keys in the car.
That’s what moms are for…they want you to have something of your own…something that won’t be repossessed.
I fyo go over go to 8:07 Pm and waht sabrina said to scroll up to.
Huh?
Oh she did talk about repossesions like we would have that happen.
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Here read this.
sabrina said,
in September 20th, 2008 at 8:12 pm
lol it’s a bit sad, comical at the same time…jusy wonder how much time and effort he puts into doing that lol well if we want dak al we have to do is mention his name, he’ll be here straight away lol
8:07 when and on which blogh please?
I could pop in over to the other blog and start the ball rolling but I’m not in th mood for certain people over there. Kris is okay but some of the others I am starting to get annoyed with.
Well, it is for this reason they greet any new blogger with suspicion.
Actually, for what it’s worth, you are about the only person who seems to want to look for something concrete.
You don’t know these people, nor do they know you…don’t let it get to you.
I won’t. I’ve had a pretty rough day and not in the mood for crap so I’ll talk to someone who is more civil.
They live in a fantasy world Dak…honestly, I’ve never been so moved by anything on TV that I felt compelled to reach through the screen and “bit@# slap” someone.
I did meet a guy once who took a gun and shot the TV.
I might shriek at a scary movie now and then…more now than then…but, the evening news just doesn’t provide that much motivation.
Of course if anyone comes in here they are going to say you and i are the same person and I am talking to myself, as if two peolpe can’t talk with one another.
Hey I know who the guy that shot his Tv is its Elvis right.
Yeah you got a point right now its sh** and spin.
Uh, no…did Elvis do that?
No, this fella had problems…he was insecure too and ran with a pretty tough crowd.
Well I can be insecure too sometimes but I run with a good crowd thank god.
I’m sure you do.
To be honest with you I think Elvis is still alive(HAHA)
So, did you make an offer on this house?
He may be….I saw his grave in Tenn. though
No. We actually went to Home center(Palm Harbor Homes)and looked at some of there models.
I’ve always wanted to go to Graceland.
Well, if you have a family you need a home. Hopefully you can find one that is affordable.
I’m sure we will.
You should, that is if you still can. I heard that they may have closed it down. It really isn’t that much though…I’ll bet the place isn’t over 3000 sq ft. Heck, most people live in houses that large and often twice and even three times that size now. But, back then, and in that area it was really something.
Tenn is a beautiful state, if you didn’t already know that. Especially around Chattanooga…or is that Ga.?
Sorry the homes we were looking at are manufacture by a company called Palm Harbor Home the specialize in Manufactured and Modular homes.
Oh sorry you were talking about graceland(duh. Sorry i had a brainfart.
Hmmm, then you’d have to buy a lot as well?
It’s easy to have cerebral flatulence after reading a lot of online stuff…I understand.
Well the good thing is thet can help with the lot.
I hope you look at other options as well.
Have you considered the school districts, property taxes, mileage for commute to work, etc.
Yeah all those.We already have a good idea what area we want to live in because we have already lived there and liked it so I’m keeping my fingers crossed.
Great…hope you get it then.
be back in a bit
Are ya there?
Sorry was showing my wife a floorplan.
So any discussions about the case to talk about tonight.
Sept 19th Catherine…
“Caylee at least the cops are still looking for you”.
This whole cas ei so intriguing and fascinating that now my wife even discusses it and thats a new for her.
Hey guys come on over..
Okay RV get ready for trouble.
See ya later.
See ya
I may be back later. Got a little going on here.
Anyone here yet?…Or just me?
anyone notice how much cayLEE looks like LEE anthony…
Casey + Lee sitting in the Tree…
F_ _ _ I N G
Catherine you here?
Yes, I’m here
There was absolutely no action in this blog whatsoever since Dak left, and my two posts no someone is here….MMMM….That’s weird.
I hope everyone is ok when they left us. I know some can be pretty tense about the politics the closer we get. But I feel everyone is entitled to their own opinion, and I should have known better than to post anything about them. But I will not say anything more about them..I promise!
What did Dak mean “get ready for trouble”.
Was he talking about you and me, Kris?
Where is this above?
Yes, 8:57
Meow
What’s that mean RV?
Hmmmm..don’t know for sure. Would probably have to go through all the posts first.
What’s the meow about rv?
ok im here you guys keep trying to leave me lol is there a reason? LOL
ok im here you guys keep trying to leave me lol is there a reason? LOL
When I was in our blog (the one we left), I came over here briefly to invite with an olive branch and be friendly. I made the mistake of leaving this screen open a few times I posted here by mistake. But I did invite them to join us.
No reason pammy… Just hoping we didn’t scare everyone off.
Hmmmm. strange
Hi, pammy what’s new?
where r we? lol i have so many blogs saved lol i just got home long 12 hour day, and my little one had a meltdown on me after we got home.. shes tired too, a long day for her at daycare, I despise that she has to be gone so long from me, and it does affect her… anyways I will stay on this page unless you all move again, I feel as thought your fleeing from ME.. lol I am Only ONE person on here btw i don’t know who is who just the familiar names i chat with…
What blog were you on before pammy?
We only moved over now pammy because everyone left the other blog..Hoping it wasn’t us, but I should no better when my hackles rise about politics, I seem to trip over my tongue.
well alot..lol long work day, my girl is having some major behabiou issues and meltdowns, your all moms, any advice? shes going through this horrid stage of screaming, hitting, crying alot, melting down for no apparent reasons. I do work full time and she hates when I am gone, I am starting her in preschool 2 days a week, hoping that helps the behaviour, but she is normally so sweet, tonight when i got her picked up from daycare she screamed all the way home wanting her favorite miss kayla, i could not even console her, i said gess aren’t you happy to see mama> i am worried about her she is 3 1/2
What kind of work do you do pammy?
the one you justleft, thats the one i had to read when i got home, and saw you were moving just now
my keyboard is not acting right, i dont drink so i’m just typing crazy lol
my keyboard is not acting right, i dont drink so i’m just typing crazy lol
Sounds like a bad temper tantrum. They don’t stop at that age either. Mine is 4 and she tries to rule the roost. Has fits if she doesn’t get her way either.
Sounds like she just misses you, or maybe she’s just tired.
i take care of mentally and physically disabled people. normally i work only 8 hours, tonight one of them wnet into high sugar and i had to sit with him at the hospital till other staff relieved me, so it was a long long day… i am off tomorrow, but then the boss pulls a work meeting ON MY DAY OFF ugh anyways 2 days off now.
Did you catch all of the posts in the other blog pammy? I told them about something funny that happened on the way into work this morning..I can post it if you need a laugh.
yah the daycare observes them you know, and they tell me unfortunately pam, you have a very strong minded, stong willed and very temperamental child LOL.. although she is very advanced for her age, they can’t get over it, but her behaviour to me is just horrid. I had to drive the car with her literally wigging out, I could not console her, I had to stop and pull over to calm her down. I mean I am happy she has these people who she loves there but to have acted that bad cause of the worker, well it made me feel crappy as a mom, like you dont love mama? lol and, i also feel bad cause i know she spends alot of time with them.. so I guess I am working on it, but this stage has really shocked me its only been lately…
kris
lol i did already read it about tim hortons, LOL. the thing about that place is they also don’t give you a sleeve, ok, and then when you ask they look at you as if you asked for the unthinkable lol. i say things too like THANKS sarcastically…lol.. i mean at least act as tho you like your job, and the customer is always right!!! lol
Don’t beat yourself over it pammy… They all do that type of unconsolable fit at someime or another. I remember mine did the same coming back from daycare and I thought the same thing pull the car over and try to do something to cajole her. Didn’t work. They have bad days too and they will be a different lil person the next day even. Really it’s not you, it happens to alot of parents. Don’t be hard on yourself really.
Hey did we lose Catherine? Or is she still here? CATHERINE!!!
Boy, that’s a tough job pammy. You really must be very special to work with mentally, and physcially handicapped people. Are you an RN?
thanks kris, you made me tear up reading your thoughts, I love her so much and noone can love her as much as her mama, when i see her acting so bad i feel maybe as if I am failing somehow as a mom, for 3 years shes been an angel.lol, all of a sudden its like who are you? lol… i take her sadness so hard even and i know yelling doesnt work, nothing right now does, when we got in i just held her, she had chanted the workers name all the way home till she was like choking from crying so i held her and in minutes she fell out. so i know they get tired. but thanks for listening. I dotake everything to do with her so personal lol…
Kris, You just have one child?
no not an RN I do give meds and injections, but no certifications, i want to take schooling but shoot, no time, its an easy job really, like not physically hard, but after a week, well, you sometimes get drained, these people have soooo many problems, when I boo hoo about mine, I have no right too. i am blessed, i can’t complain, ( but I do) lol these people cannot even live alone or do anything without staff, simple things i Take for granted… and yes theres alot that are plain pains in the you know what, the hardest ones are the mentally ill ones, like dealing with casey lol lol… and they have no rhyme nor reason for what their doing…
They are just little people developing their own personalities everyday. They don’t know what real stress is yet because they’re not in thw working world yet, but to them it could just be a fight over a toy at daycare. Or they really wanted to be home possibly. They all go through it, so don’t take it to heart any of it. Mine goes from angel to devil in 2.3 sec.
Very sad, pammy.
Just my one girl that is it, and enough really..she’s a handful! lol.
I was too sick throughout that pregnancy and kept on antibiotics straight throughout. As soon as she was born I literally was wheeled away to have another one of my 14 sugeries. So in my mind she is my miracle daughter, because she was so healthy and pink and glowing. I was way too sick then.
I was over at the older blog trying to ctach up and now back here reading,
Hi Pammy, Catherine, Kris!
I feel like a cat…I must have nine lives because I know in 3 of the surgeries things got pretty scary, and I’m still on this side of the grass…thank god! lol.
Hi cj.. Jump right in the water is warm!
yes its taken working with them to really make me realize how blessed i am, although we lost my daughters father tragically, as i said I have recovred somewhat, but these people cannot even make dinner or do anything, some sit in their place all day alone till we come, they havent seen anyone no family, and then you know they range from every kind of mental illness. its hard sometimes.. the physcially disabled ahve alot of spunk and try so hard, its amazing, the M. I. ones well, some there is no hope for recovery some are like us and snapped.. over who knows what stress? loss of job, normal people who cracked which is why i wondered about monster, maybe she cracked at some point, as i listened to the tapes she sounds like one of my patients, truly… she sounds schizophrenic…in my opinion, like she needs meds..to starighten out her thought patterns
Why do you think the police are following up on the Caylee sighting’s? There were four of them down here on this week. They know she is dead. Is it just to satify the defense when the case goes to court? It just doesn’t make any sense to me. First they say they know Caylee was in M. car dead, and then they are out knocking on doors asking people for a copy of their child’s birth certificate.
Hi, cj
i also believe they have found something and thats why no further searching has resumed
I think your right Catherine…they are covering all their bases. It maybe some defense tactic of them saying that they only fixated on BB’s client and no other avenues. We all know she’s guilty, I don’t believe she did it by accident though. What do you think Catherine?
Yes, I think they did find something a few weeks ago when they stopped the search so abruptly.
I dont know what to think about this case anymore, it is so confusing to me.. i know she did something, and it will be proved.. i am sill not sure accident or intentional
I have a feeling they are testing those bones. And my gut tells me it’s a smokescreen to the public when they wrote it off as animal bones. Confirmation or exclusion should be coming very soon, Intricate testing like that should be back within the next week, maybe two at best. Because I think that was around 3 weeks ago maybe?
but then i think if they found her they would not be able to stand to not release it. the day laci washed ashore they said it that day
I just have a tough time thinking accidental, only because of her actions seen out with friends at the nightclubs. Even NG said that is not the sign of someone who had an accidental death, that is someone rejoicing (or something like that she said).
No I don’t think it was an accident. I
mean she has a fight with her mother, and
POW the next thing Caylee is dead. She wanted a life without any baggage, so she murdered that baby. I donm’t know why her mother doesn’t understand how much she hates her. She chose to kill Caylee instead of giving up custody to her. “What is given can be taken away” Well, she took her away for good. Poor little Caylee.
Laci’s body was found by bystanders. The police were called and then the media got a hold of the story.
I know I used this analogy before, but because monster is so juvenile acting…I think it’s like a toy that the child has no interest in, even though they know it’s theirs, but when another child enters the room and wants to play with it and show attention , they would rather break it in two than let the other child be happy and have it. That is how I view what happened between monster and her mom.
Exactly, Kris
Monster didn’t want anyone to have her toy. “I may not want it, but noone else will have it either!”
The motive is crystal clear. She wanted to live a single life. Tony certainly made it clear to her he was not ready to play Daddy as per the roomie.
Whew caught up, I just never thought some of you were still at the older blog, i had gone in and said we were here yest. AM and never went back, lol
geesh there were alot of posts there!
Pammy, yes your lil one will outgrow what she is going through, I always said mine did not go through th terrible 2′s rather they went through terrible 3′s!
Catherine yep i have thought since Tim of Equusearch pulled out they were “on to something”
and funny we never heard back the results, not that were privy to them,,
I am glad it was quiet in this blog today as i have my grandson and so busy, made 2 fresh apple pies tonight, grandson helped pick the apples from our tree, so cute..
I couldn’t get over one of the friends statments to the police, when they said that she would deliberately look her baby in the eyes and make statements like, ” If I didn’t have you, I could go out tonight”, or ” If I didn’t have you I could party with my friends.” This brought tears to my eyes! This was a cycle brought down through the family to control through guilt. I cannot even imagine that poor little girls mind when her mommy said this to her! I was completely and totally disgusted!
Kris and Catherine I totally don’t think what happened to Caylee was an accident either, M’s gonna be strung over this one, no two ways about it.
I’m gonna drink a glass of champagne the day they arrest that bitch! I really hope the inmates have at her when she gets there.
Kris,
I never heard about that. Who said that anbout her? That makes me hate her more. That poor little baby.
I shared this one here yest. but wanted you all to see one of my fave posts from a poster in the past day lol;
I DO love this one you guys: LOL
CHRISWOLFE said,in September 19th, 2008 at 2:39 pm To Orange County 911 Operators: The next time Casey calls, tell her; “We are absolutely, most definitely coming to help you….in a backwards kind of way, after we stop by Universal Studios to look for the protesters”.
That was either Kristina or Amy I believe. It was in their statment to police.
That is a funny post cj…I like it.
Why didn’t LV tell her to give custody to their mother. He’s just as bad as the resgt of them. He said, how close they were why didn’t Mallory and LV take Caylee?
Oh Catherine..When I first read that I cried, I could feel the tears welling in my eyes. I just wanted to be there to hold that little girl and kiss her. I cannot imagine someone even thinking something like that let alone voicing it aloud to their baby, in front of friends. Sickening!
yeah thought it was great post, truthful eh?
WHERE did i read someone post that a murder charge will go down next week for m? It was in the blog someplace..
cj,
That’s good. Really good. LMAO
yeah the way m treated her little girl is so sad to say the least, and guess lil Caylee loved guys, was very fond of them from what i read somewhere..
What didn’t those so called friends tell her not to say things like that to thaT BABY. Nice friends to have around a baby.
I heard she even took that baby to Fusian’s and let her fall asleep in the bar. That makes me sick. I just want to slap the sh-t out of her..
WHO was the FRIEND of m’s that appeared on
NG and i think Larry King possibly also who defended m’s mothering tooth and nail, this young blonde haired glas is ALSO a mother and said she would totally trust m and never believed m would have anything to do with the dissapearance of little caylee? this was like ages ago, almost 2 months back when this gal was speaking so good of m.. did any of uou guys see that? WHERE IS THIS WOMAN NOW???
When there that young their little eardrums are very sensitive, they even say to stay away from loud reverberating music during pregnancy. I cannot believe that noone lectured her about that. It’s just too unbelieveable that she dragged that child out with her for selfish pleasures.
When ypu think of all the people who can’t have children, then hear about how this monster treated that baby you just want to strangle her.
‘glas’ lol meant GAL
cj…I think alot of things came to light for the friends, then all they had to do was connect the dots.
cj,
Yes, I remember her. M used to babysit her kids. She was a pretty blonde girl shoulder length hair.
Those who were in her corner originally realized alot of things when evidence came to light. I just wish I could’ve hugged that baby when she said this stuff. Take her away and treat her the way she should’ve been treated like a little princess.
God knows what she stole from that girl. She should start taking an inventory of her jewelry or anything else M. could steal and sell.
Can you only imagine how that friend feels now, knowing that monster babysat for her? I would be shaking with goosebumps on my arms.
The sadness is that M. knew her mother would love and take care of Caylee. Why didn’t she just give her to her mother, instead of killing her. Selfish bit-ch. If I don’t want her nobody gets her.
Unfortunately that is how spoiled children act. And we all know monster was spoiled rotten.
C, gave birth to Rosemary’s Baby.
Hey…Can you guys only imagine how much talking will be going on in these blogs were in when they finally arrest her on murder charges?
Cindy said, she lost 29 lbs since this started. She really lost 60 lbs. Caylee weighed 30lbs.
I bet we won’t even be able to keep up with the reading as well as posting ourselves when this comes to pass.
OMG everyone will be blogging away the day they arrest her for murder. I hope they televise the trial. I want to see her face when they present the evidence against her. Then I want to see BB defend her. Oh there just a normal family in an insane situation. It the other way around BB.
Did eveyone leave…Or is anyone still here?
I am going to make it a point to take off from work when there is a trial for her. I want to see it, I hope and would think they would air it on court tv.
I wish NG would prosecute her.
Oh me too Catherine. You can just feel the tension radiating of NG, she would love to have at her.
I cpuld just hear her and BB getting into it. There would be a lot of side bars.
BB will never let her take the stand.
Ya know what I think would be sort of neat, but yet probably impossible. If we all lived closer to each other, and after they convicted monster, we all had a dinner somewhere and wore nametags with our screen names so we could identify everyone after blogging for so long together. That would be kind of neat.
She is arrogant enough to want to take the stand. It just goes with her personality type.
But I think she should. When she walked oit of jail she said I’m innocent I want to walk with my head high. Well, she should insist on taking the stand.
Yes, that would be great. My real name is Catherine
What ya think about the dinner nametag thing? Wouldn’t that be kinda cool if it could be done? I wonder how many stickers Dak would be covered in! lol.
My real name is Kristi..but I never go by that. All my life I’ve liked Kris better.
OMG a whole pack. LMAO
LMAO too….
You know sometimes I think Dak is really woman.
We might not even see his face Catherine. He would need adhesive remover when we were done. lol.
Never thought about that…Mostly women in these blogs I think. I have ocassionaly spotted a manly screen name.
LOL I have been told I look like Sharon Stone. My hair is shoulder length though. I would love to cut my hair like her’s, but that’s just too short for me.
There is a pic of me on the internet. I am about 5’9″ and about 138 lbs. But I don’t look like anyone I can think of from hollywood. My daughter looks like someone though.
We should email photo’s of ourselves to one another. Then we can put the face on the name.
I know of a way to do the email thing without leaving it in the public forum for everyone to have and spam us.
I did it with another blogger and we talk now occasionally by email. All you have to do is create a bogus ad on craigslist then as soon as the person emails you, delete the post. Then there is no link left and you have each others email.
Still there Catherine?
I am an interior designer. I own a retail home furnishing store, and custom drapery workroom. I do a lot of model homes. There are about six designers that work out of my store.
I enjoy it, but I am getting burned out. I’ve been doing it for over 30 years. My husband wants me to sell the business. One day I say yes, the next day I say no. I have always worked, and the thought of staying home doesn;t appeal to me. After owning your own business it would be hard to work for someone else. Going through the chemo slowed me down, but I still go into my office everyday. Two more weeks of chemo and I’m done.
That’s sounds good.
That is good that you will be done with it. I know my being ill had made me depressed sometimes, so I can relate to what your going through. I almost lost my life in a few of those surgeries too. You just get bummed out sometimes and the road to healing just seems so long in coming. I can understand about working for yourself and the freedom that comes with it. I could’ve had that chance too, but my sideline business only gets busy twice a year. I make custom flamed headlights for classic cars. We have 3 classic cars in our immediate family but show them at the cruises.
Hi, I’m back… but rather not chat with those from the Ant’s camp tonight…
I’m not from the Ant’s camp…No way , never.
i left for a bit,am back
Hey guys..Amy , cj..
Whew, thank goodness! Hi, CJ, kris and Cat!
Can’t believe the toothpicks didn’t pop from my eyes yet! I was up by 5am today for work.
I’ve been visiting IQ’s blogg from time to time, just to escape some of those from the Anthony’s camps that seems to be visiting this blogg..
You guys are a breath of fresh air!
Has somone been in these blogs lately defending the Ants Amy? If so do you remember their names?
Wow, you’re in for the long haul, Kris! I pinched a nerve in my back yesterday, probably from too much blogging
Couldn’t sleep a wink last night, uggg..
I saved the link to IQ’s blog..but when I click on it it does not take me there. So I am lost from ever visiting I guess.
u still with us Catherine?
My back and neck is aching as well, this is the most uncomfortable computer chair on this planet I think.
I don’t care if I give you my email address on here. It’s my company email address not my personal email. My secretary goes through my emails and knows which ones I answer. After the first email, I just tell everyone what to put into the subject area if it doesnt match up my secretary reads the email and decides to junk it or block the emails from that sender.
Kris, I think so, they’ve given me reason to think that they’re from the other camp. I mean, dude, if they really think the momster is innocent, then why hang out with us…
My email is decoranddetils@att.net
HI AMY!
so, did any of you hear a murder charge is going down next week or is that just a rumour???
What would we put in for a subject so it would come through ok?
make that details
Just put Kris and your daughter’s name.
I just sent you a test email to see if it comes through ok. My subject line says Caylee Anthony blogger.
Hi, CJ, I didn’t hear about that, but boy wouldn’t that be wonderful!
You just made my night, CJ if that is indeed the case, whooo weeee!
Oh ..ok I can do that the next time. I will have to dig out pix to send to you. Do you only get it at work or can you view them any time?
okay, I’ll go check. Give me a miniute.
Gotta get for tonight, grandson is calling me to his room to watch videos, he is 7, adorable.
You all take care and will catch you soon again
Cat, I also send you an email, too. BTW, you’ll know my email, since it has something to do with California. FYI…
Hey all you chickadees, what’s up?
Night, CJ!
Kris, did you get my drift re: the previous email, re: the ants camp?
Been a slow newsday and no earth shattering happenings??
Kris, Send it again to decoranddetails@att.net
Hola, Ms. Mandi!
Cat, your email bounce back, FYI!
I think so amy.. Hi Mandi where’d ya been?
Thanks Amy, I hope we ALL ‘make’ our week, next week, will it be the week, finally???
LET’S PRAY WE HEAR NEWS THEY FOUND CAYLEE!!
Later gals
Was out of town until late Thurs. night….was on here for a little while very late that night but took a night off last night….how ya been?
Will send one off now..gotta find a pic..brb.
Got Amy’s
By cj
Amy,
Did you get my reply?
Later, CJ! Amen to that prayer!
Hi Mandi, It’s been interesting in here recently. We’ve had a couple of advocates for the other camp visit us. They must be worried about the power of our thoughts…
Cat, I got it, cool beans!
Haven’t heard anynews on the case today but did see Jessie Grund interview tonight…did you’ll see it?
Amy, really?? What’s their screen names so I can take a gander….sure seems like things are in a cooling off period in Fla….wonder why? Could it be the calm before the storm or are people starting to feel sorry for the Ants…
Amy,
Great!
hey can’t go yet, lol grandsons watching a movie with Grandpa,
HI MANDI!
geesh this is addicting,
hey Catherine, your business sounds wonderful -
maybe i will email you sometime,
thanks for the chat all, later
Hi CJ….Bye CJ…LOL
Where did jesse’s interview occur on? TV, if so what network, and I’ll research it…
Mandi,
I don’t think there is much pity for the Ant’s down here.
i think it’s the calm before the storm.
Mandi, are you good at riddles?
Kris, Nothing yet.
Amy,
Geraldo Rivera
Geralso Rivera’s show on Fox cable news….sounds like he STILL loves her….said the C he knows would not hurt Caylee intentionally….but the biggest thing that came out of it is that Cindy is saying the HE killed Caylee and put her in the trunk of Monster’s car to frame her!!
Yes, he does sound like he still loves her. How about that C. saying he put Caylee in M.’s car. A bunch of B.S.
Just sent you the mail Catherine… Let me know if you get it ok.
Mandi, refer to the following statement for context…
Amy said, in September 21st, 2008 at 12:24 am
Geraldo I mean…
Hey Catherine….Howse it going? I was reading a local channel’s blog there in Florida and it looked to me like about 1 out of 3 bloggers does feel sorry for them….some due to the protestors, but others for the loss of Caylee.
Kris,
Got it.
So Mandi…what you are saying is that Cindy is finally coming to grips that Caylee may be gone? And now she is laying blame elsewhere? If so were is the link to this, I want to read it.
Amy?? Nothing is there on my screen…
Oh…BRB girls
Let me know what you think…I have to send you one more..
Kris,
Your daughter is beautiful, and so are you. Who is that in the photo with you?
Has he gotten legal guns yet? The Ant’s will do anything to pin this on someone other that their daughter… hard to dismiss the fact, that momster didn’t call the police right away..
Mandi: Here it is..
Amy said, in September 21st, 2008 at 12:24 am
Kris, I think so, they’ve given me reason to think that they’re from the other camp. I mean, dude, if they really think the momster is innocent, then why hang out with us…
That is the prima donna I live with, Kelsey’s father…Randy. He is personality wise just like monster, narcisstic. He can’t understand my spending time dedicating myself to blog about these kids…he is very self serving.
Not a link up yet Kris…it was on Fox cable tonight…
2 or 3 weeks ago, Jessie’s father was also interviewed and he said then they were trying to pin this on Jessie….seems Mr. Grund, Sr. snubbed the monster after finding out that his son was not the father so this is how they will get their revenge perhaps….
Check your email in a minute catherine. I am sending something over soon. My pics can be big sometimes so I send different emails.
Maybe Cindy is finally coming to grips with the inevitable.
Mandi,
I can understand that some people feel sorry for them. They shouldn’t be tormented by those protesters. They are already living in a hell with the M. in their house. I think that is enough to drive anyone crazy.
I think she’s known for weeks now what happened to Caylee but keeping up the “she’s still alive” denial front for the media, sympathy, etc.and most importantly to them, the big money deals….
Kris,
ok
Amy,
Did you see my reply?
I did thanks, glad were on the same page
Catherine, I didn’t know you were undergoing chemo….I sincerely hope your prognosis is good…
Kris, how are you feeling?
Catherine I just sent you another email.
Kris,
That’s a man for you. They are the same,
i married a a me, my and I person myself.
My swelling is acting up under my jawbone. Goes up in size then shrinks, I know there is infection there that has to be lanced. Wish I never would have had my wisdom teeth out. He left rotted bone fragments inside my sinus cavity since ’99…first found in 2006. 14 surgeries later the damage was done.
I think something big will happen this week in the case. The DA’s office has been very quite. They’ve been really great at not showing all of their cards. I think the evidance that they have on this case is so darn compelling, that when it all comes out, C&G&C & momsters heads will be spinning!
Well, I used to feel sorry for them but no more! They are constantly provoking the people out in front. Why call 911 everytime someone throws a couple of nickels at them (their defense fund contribution for Monster..LOL) if you’re going to come out with a baseball bat anyway??
Doesn’t make any sense…but then we all know they are severly lacking in that department.
Thanks for asking Mandi..
Sometimes it just gets redundant, and depressing not seeing a light at the end of the tunnel..healthwise. Hopefully the next one will be it. I find out more when my Ent comes back from vacation in Africa.
Cat, chemo? I’m sorry to hear that, too!
Good grief, a bunch of chatterboxes today! Took me forever to read all this
But, as always, a good read.
So Catherine, I am going to email you, too! Gumshoe will be in the subject line.
Hi everybody!
Oh, sure…I knew you recently were told about having to have another surgery but you didn’t go into detail and I didn’t want to pry….
Sorry to hear that you’re going through that discomfort. Nothing is worse then feeling uncomfortable. Does it affect your eating?
Kris,
I got it. I just want to give you a big hug. You are special, my friend.
Hi Gumshoe, we missed you!
Guys we’re sharing pics of each other…so we know what everyone looks like. I mentioned to Catherine earlier in the other blog how neat it would be if after they convict monster if we all could meet somewhere over dinner and where our screen names as nametags (Of course Dak would have a million of them on..lol). But that’s what gave us the idea to exchange pics.
Kris, I’ve been plagued with ear/throat problems all my adult life and but the most recent surgery on my throat was they removed my tonsils & a tumor and I never knew such pain…giving birth was a breeze compared so I know how you feel.
Did you see the extra thing inside..check it out.
Oh boy, my secretary is going to kill me.
Mandi I know how you feel the tonsil is what they removed right after my daughter was born. And I had 2 tonsil revisions since then along with my jawbone being filed down twice. Yes it does hurt…….I know same as you.
LOL…don’t think I have one of myself on here…I’m ALWAYS the one taking them! But that would be great if we could all meet during the trial.
that’s a great idea, Kris..
I can create a little space online that we can go to?
No Catherine….Your secretary will only kill you if all of Dak’s come through…She’ll be sorting for weeks…lol!
Kris,
Yes, looks the same. My eyes filled with tears.
Yeah..About the dinner thingy I said maybe Dak would need adhesive remover if he were to attend afer taking off all those name tags!
Yes, it sure does hurt…I lost 12 lbs. in 10 days…nothing but water was all I could drink and Dr. forced me to do that….tonsillectomy is a breeze for little kids but when an adult has one, it’s excruciating…
LOL…..we’ll just call him the MUMMY!
Mine did too when I first saw it. It is just so sad about all these children I really would love to create a foundation of some sort to help with families..that has been my dream. Almost like a calling when people say they feel compelled to go overseas to do missionary work.
That’s a good one Mandi…Lol! The mummy! lmao!
LOl I will let her sort through them, then send the ones I want to talk to my personal email address.
Kris,
You may get your wish.
oh, I found a very old pic on here of me w/my kids when they were little but nothing recent on here….Like I said, I’m always the one taking the pics of family…and never IN the pics.
He could just save the trouble Catherine and send all the names in one email! But that may truly give it away….lol!
I hope so Catherine…I really want to help in other ways other than just blogging. If I could fly out to every place when they are searching, trust me I would, and I know my daughter would too. She is very taken by these children.
Sounds like your sharing your story Kris….Have you heard anything definite yet?
I’ll be waiting for your pics too guys! Don’t forget to send them when you can.
No Mandi..nothing yet. But only the two of you know about it so far. I won’t say anything until something really were to happen. I do know there are negotiations going on within , I don’t know anything more.
Oh this will be fun! We can always, set up a facebook address, and the myspace is private, and you can let only those you want in.
You can keep up to date with everyone, simple to create as well…
What do you think>
Opps, please omit the above reference to myspace… I meant to say facebook…
If someone knows how to do it..sure I’m game to learn how. I don’t know how to set up facebook though.
Kris,
I can understand why. You and your daughter just may help in more ways than you can imagine. God always has a plan for us all.
See… I knew what you meant Amy…my post came through same time as yours.
I would really turn it around again if it did Catherine. This really has been her dream since she’s been two, I never gave it another thought. But she understands fully everything. And children become more acutely aware of stranger danger because of these things. So there is a good lesson to be had for all I feel.
I have a myspace. my grandaughter set it up for me. She even selected the music and wallpaper. She sends me im’s all the time.
How many grandchildren do you have Catherine?
Maybe you’ll get a pic of Wiley Coyote from Dak. What do ya think about that Catherine..lol!
I’m setting up a facebook profile right now.
http://www.facebook.com
very simple
Cat, I see that you have a profile too!
Kris,
I know you would, and yes stranger danget is something every child should know about.
Or, Kilroy was here (Dak)..the little peeker
Catherine, I forgot to mention in my email to you that I also have a facebook account. Amy, Catherine can forward my info to you and Kris if you want it. (heck, SHE may not even want it
I just sent it!)
I keep thinking of the sticker thing you said Mandi…Omg! All I keep hearing in my head is that comercial..”I am stuck on bandaids cuz bandaids stuck on me….” lol.
Amy,
Remember my 12 year old grandchild madse that for me when she stayed over night. She thnks she is a movie star. She takes singing lessons, and sings like all time. I told her to go on American Idol when she is older. Then she caqn take care of me when I get old. She told me, Nan your never going to get old. Boy, do I love her.
Why wouldn’t I want it gumshoe?
Has anyone ever heard again from “Concerned in Texas”? Apparently she had to evacuate due to Hurricane IKE but haven’t heard from her since? Hope she’s allright….
ROFLMAO Kris….
I think it will just take Dak entering a room and I will start laughing. I feel like I need to pee right now! lmao!
OMG…wouldn’t that be funny if Dak showed up in drag! LOL….
Cat, You’ll get a kick out of this.. I’ve hired william hung for a promotion that I was working on… Speaking of American Idol
I just meant that I didn’t ask Catherine first–just said I would send it and then did–assuming she would want it.
I haven’t seen Concerned in TX on any of these blogs since the hurricane. Also haven’t seen Pickles. I miss the both of them.
Gumshoe,
Got it.
Mandi, kilroy…. I haven’t heard about that cartoon in yearsssssss!
Kris,
You will like gumshoe.
Oh..sorry gumshoe..I misread it, my eyes are playing tricks, tired.
Kris,
She is one of us.
Me, too… I hope they are all doing well… Pickle was a hoot and a half…
Did your mind’s pic of me match the real me?
Send them on over when you get a chance Catherine.
Cat, feel free to share my email. Please omit giving it to the “fox’s”. Thankfully, they haven’t been online for a while now, whew!
Seems like we have a special little group of people in here.
that is a pretty neat question gumshoe! Never thought about that.
Gumshoe,
No, your much prettier
I’ll take any email addresses of any anti-Ants too.
And pics also.
Amy,
The foxes hmmmmm. wonder who you mean?
I am falling asleep, I hate to leave but my eyes are closing. Good Night All, God Bless
See ya tommorrow Catherine..don’t forget to forward pics and email addresses. Good night.
I know Amy, it’s been awhile
aww thanks Catherine. I don’t know about pretty, but I’m real.
‘nite!!
Cat, hummmm, I wonder… however, for some reason, they’ve been absent…
Anybody else yawning like me?
I’m walking in post holes I’m so tired….going to go wrestle with the sheets!
Catherine can forward my info to you that are here tonight, as well as Pickles and Concerned in TX if they come back.
Talk to you’ll later….Sleep tight everyone, sweet dreams and prayers for Caylee.
I am… Think, I’m ready to hit the hay too!
Nighty night! Sleep tight all!
I think I’m gonna hit the hay too.. I’ve been up since 5am eastern. I can hear the snoring up there from the computer room…and my house is pretty big, so that’s telling me something…lol!
See everyone tommorrow. Night!
yes, I’m caling it a night, too.
Will catch you all tomorrow afternoon after my Sunday nap.:)
‘nite all
So long…Kris…Amy…Gumshoe…Catherine and Dak if you’re peeking!
Cindy/George/Casey & Lee are only in the media for the MONEY!!!
Casey MUST be charged with NEGLIGENCE … because she DIDN’T LOOK AFTER he daughter…she also MUST BE CHARGED with MURDER..because she CARED MORE ABOUT HERSELF than she did for her CHILD!!!
HOW DARE SHE????
hi everyone the time difference makes it hard to comment same time as u but i enjoy reading al ur posts and keep informed wt the case.just wondering what exactly she is charged with regarding caylee and what time would be served?
It was another rough night for the Anthony family as they exercised their rights under the law to be free from unlawful persecution. Thank goodness the Guardian Angels have stepped up to restore peace and stand up for what most people believe in and have fought for through the years. So, while everyone is deciding which team they will be on, I already know where I stand.
Who needs Padilla’s double talking crew of commandos? It is apparent to anyone with half a brain that the neighborhood and the community will have to restore peace in that neighborhood. When broken down drunken gossip mongers are allowed to rule the roost everyone suffers. People whose character is limited to name calling, childish pranks, and insolent propaganda will take flight…BTW, where is Pickle?
Even the media is trying to clean up their act. We aren’t seeing as many unprofessional reporters in front of the Anthony home pouring fuel on the fire. They seem to putting in people who can stand upright and act like an adult. Now, if they’d just limit those armchair pundits, worn out has beens such as Mark Furball and his clan, fist beating beady-eyed bit@#s whose following must be women who have been beaten down that never had the strength to fight back, then and only then will they be able to make better decisions.
While they are doing the math and weighing the cost of their “psych” program they will soon realize that an organized effort to “break down” the Anthony family isn’t working… Hoorah!!!!! Perhaps they should study the word “stubborn”…that’s the emotion that takes over when idiots try to rule. The moment we as a society give in to that type of brow beating is the moment we give up any hope of home ownership, trial by jury, etc. I could see the neighborhood being subjected to such terrorism a long time ago. Is all the additional police in the area a good use of community money? Since they never wanted to read the documents or even try to make sense of the clip and paste artists looking to make money by creating chaos for an average American family they will be forced to pay the consequences. Well, maybe someone there can do math even if they can’t comprehend simple reading and writing.
let me know where you all move. I was chatting last night, went to check on my girl, and then fell out with her, so tired, and bad headache, came back on this morning and saw your all exchanging email addresses???
C’mon out Dak…think they are trying to figure out this changing IP thing now…they all got the warm fuzzies and exchanged emails.
You can say what you like without any bullying and without pretending to be someone you’re not.
CHRISWOLFE said,in September 19th, 2008 at 2:39 pm To Orange County 911 Operators: The next time Casey calls, tell her; “We are absolutely, most definitely coming to help you….in a backwards kind of way, after we stop by Universal Studios to look for the protesters”.
Good one! Thanks for reposting it.
Kris said: “I couldn’t get over one of the friends statments to the police, when they said that she would deliberately look her baby in the eyes and make statements like, ” If I didn’t have you, I could go out tonight”,
Was that in the 400 page document? What a horrible thing to say to a little one.
Remembering Caylee, hoping she is found soon. I’m on your side Caylee. I wish your family would stop protecting your murderer. You aren’t a piece of trash to be thrown away when people are done with you. You are worth fighting for, you are worth sticking up for, you are worthy of a respectful burial. I’ll never forget you or stop speaking out for you, against those who participated in your demise….and now seek to cover it all up.
Pluto,
I read the 400 page doc. when they first came online and I don’t recall that statement being included in anything I read. It may be there and I missed it, or it could be some drugged out drunk reading into something that isn’t there and “re-typing” the original docs.
good morning everyone anything new yet in the anthonycamp?
Nah…just slurs and innuendos flyin’ in an attempt to get more morons into their neighborhood so they can’t identify the people who will be doing the actual raiding…that’s all.
RV just popped in for a minute to check the posts..have to get back to my housework. The statements that monster said to her daughter definitely came from a friend, I also remember reading it online as well in the NG transcripts. I do not know who you were referring to in your post above (10:30am), but I can assure you I myself am not some drugged out drunk…I am highly opposed to any drugs or people who take them (other than antibiotics for my illness & surgeries), nor do I drink but only occasionally (because of the antibiotics maybe once or twice a month at best). I know for a fact I read this & heard this more than once about monster making this awful statement right to her daughters face (in front of others too) and if I come by it again I will post & link others to it. So in short..I am not trying to assume you are referring to me with those comments, however in the same respect I will defend myself on the off chance you are. This did occur when a friend spoke to law enforcement.
Gosh, Rv. Sounds like you may have gotten up on the wrong side of the bed this morning and then had two bowls of Wheaties!
About the Anthony house: The poor cops can’t win. They send patrols and announce they’re going to ticket people in an effort to tamp down the protesters. So last night they stopped a car with a broken head light – a legitimate stop anywhere anytime.
However the driver is a neighbor – who not long ago screamed for police to help and is now screaming AT the police for giving him a ticket – claiming that the police “are making money off this.”
Well, nitwit neighbor. If you invite the police to patrol your neighborhood then be sure you don’t break any laws – including having a head light out!
But I do think the security guards and police abused the protester who was sitting quietly on the sidewalk with a candle. The cops gave her a warning (for what I’d like to know) but the security guards sprayed her with the sprinkler and put her candle out.
Don’t they have laws in FL that would make protesters keep moving – like picket lines?
Just a quiet protest, walking up and down the sidewalk with signs really would be okay.
Are the Guardian Angels gone? I think they may have gotten in trouble with the police Friday night – chasing some creep in a car who had a taser. Anyone hear more about that?
Oh…one more thing. Or exchanging addresses had nothing to do with wanting to identify who is who to catch anybody doing anything. It simply was only the gang wanting to be able to put a face to the name when we chat. There was truly no communist plot in our intent.
Great…then they have some evidence to nail her! She’ll have her day!
They still don’t need anymore idiots in the ‘hood.’
I meant ID10T
MeeeeeeeeeoooooW
hey whats up.
Dak…you would probably know…do you know where the info is on the friend who stated Casey said to Caylee that if it weren’t for her she could go partying?
Ihave no idea RV.
Have you heard it?
Not really.
That’s what I thought
Oh…BTW…might want to upgrade your computer security…I had a sick pup the other night
Really what kind of sick pup
You know… I have read many posts on these (Caylee Anthony) blogs from people stating this is the FIRST time they have ever blogged.
I have been blogging for a few years now and find the best blogs are the ones that stick to the topic of the blog headline. That way, the blog moves quickly and doesn’t get slowed down with many “personal info” posts.
I have learned that when a blog is ongoing, the regular bloggers do form a connection of sorts. BUT.. remember, this particular blog is for postings about the Caylee Anthony case, nothing more.
To fill the space with posts back and forth between bloggers regarding their personal lives, etc. is taking away from the purpose the blog was originally intended.
Now, there is NO reason that bloggers cannot become friendly and share information, but that should be done thru their own email or internet messagings.
Please don’t be insulted by this post, I am very interested and impressed with most of the informative posts regarding the Anthony MESS. But, alsoI see many of the posts are complaining about the bogging down slowness of the site and that is because there are too many “non-Caylee” postings lately.
A seasoned blogger would agree with me, I am sure.
Again,. keep up the good work of CAYLEE posts, but lets try to remember why this blog was formed.
Thank you!
I do agree with Elaine and I for one am glad they are still following leads of Caylee sightings, because that means DNA evidence or not they still have some glimmer of hope she is alive.
And then you also get one person posing as two, who blog small one-liners back and forth to him/herself so that he/she can fill up the blog quickly, in an attempt to disrupt those who disagree with them. Very juvenile.
Okay Pluto i am going to make this as clear as I can I know you are reffering to me and I do not blog as two people.
I, for one, am glad there are still people in the world who stand for truth, and don’t defend murderers.
I do not defend murderers.
Sounds like you’re getting a bit insecure!
Good morning, all!
Pluto and Elaine, I think we’ve been such successful bloggers that we must of gotten the attention of BB or the Count’s camps to come in with all of their Bull-poopie!
Amy…I don’t think Romanian intelligence is in this blog.
Hi Amy. Maybe so. Our power is in keeping on topic….Caylee, NOT personalities on the blog. Not that I’m against becoming friendly, but attacking one another is fruitless, and merely a diversionary tactic.
Gee thats a smart idea Pluto but maybe you should practice what you preach about attacking along with all your other friends(Catherine,Sabrina, MMT,etc).
Dak, 2C, and others…it’s been real, it’s been fun…it just hasn’t been real fun!
Glad to have met you. I feel that in, yes, my first blogging attempt, that I have pissed off the pope.
Toodalooo
Pissed of the pope. I like that one.
I think I’m outta here too.
We’ll it appears that the prayer vigil at the ant’s house is called off.
I think this is a good idea, I think one should happen, just off-site.
DNA, and other forensic materials don’t lie.
Wish the ant’s would go out and search for their little granddaughter.
Hi Pluto,
Question for you about LV, since you have a sister similar to M.
Apparently LV doesnot live at home at home anymore.
I think LV is more like a moderator in that very volatile family. It was typical that G called LV to get to the house on 7/15 when all hell broke lose.
On the polygraph refusal, BB said LV left his RV to go into the house and came back , now refusing a lie detector test. I think he called one of the attorneys when he went into the house for advise. A lie detector could ask C about Zanny with a yes/no answer.
It is very important for the defense to keep the Zanny myth alive.
My take on LV is that he is more supporting his parents than M. If he is anormal person who loves his parents, he must despise M for putting his parents thru this tragedy. Although he still loves her like a sister.
I am trying to remember if M called LV too on 6/16. Also , if M was so close to LV, he certainly would have let her use his shower instead of calling Jesse.
good afternoon everyone
Hi Amy, if you’re still there and All …
I think the post that most got me that i read since i left last night was the one that said;
Jesse Grund on Geraldo’s show said C is trying to frame HIM for putting Caylee in the trunk of M’s car…
I NEVER!!
This would TOTALLY contradict Cindy’s being in denial over Caylee’s death???
CJ,
He (Jesse) could have but he had nothing to do with killing her.
hi Snookers,
yes as you said Jesse he could have put Caylee in M’s trunk but not kill her is right, to be more specific..
however my point is this would mean that
CINDY KNOWS CAYLEE IS DECEASED!
Therfore C could NOT be in DENIAL??!
hi cj, i don’t thin they are in denial at all, quite the contrary
Sabrina, thats what the media keeps portraying AND how C acts, saying she is LOOKING for Caylee in Puerto Rico etc…
this just puts a whole NEW twist to case in my eyes and heart now,
I AM THINKING THAT WHOLE FAMILY is IN on this whole mess!
Hi, CJ….
I think probably that momster is probably the only one to blame for the act (IMO). However, I think other’s know or now know the truth yet won’t speak about it.
cj, they have to know something no two ways about it, they’ve known since the dna and air tests came back, but they are such liars and enjoy playing up to the cameras, they want to keep the show going as long as they can
Check this out… wesh.com
ORLANDO, Fla. — A trust fund set up to help in the search for Caylee Anthony has been shut down.
Both the law firm that administers the fund and the bank where the money was deposited said they’re backing out.
Be right back..
oh wow amy that speaks volumes to me
Oh, I think C knows Caylee is probably dead.
But, at the advise of BB, it is important to keep the myth alive. That would be a big trump card during M’s defense if no remains are ever recovered.
While reading this blog to some earlier posts. the friend that had M babysit her children, I think was Kristina. She later did a very damaging interview in some tabloid paper(Globe?) . So no material for the defense,
It is funny that the only non family member that could have testified for the defense(Jesse) is being destroyed by C with her stupid accusations.
hi everyone just wondering does the family ever actual go out and look for caylee can only follow this on internet and all they seem to do is weed their bloody garden and argue with protesters!
C is destroying their own defense by claiming that jesse had a hand in caylee’s demise, there for not in denial
Minnie,
At this point in time, it would be unsafe for C & G to look for Caylee. They could be attacked by some nutcase. They are virtually prisoners in their own home.
i agree snookers, but i believe they could turn it around in their favor all they have to do is admit they were wrong
Sabrina,
Ain’t gonna happen. Too damaging for their daughter.
Hi, minnie! Are you the same minnie who asked about the charges against monster in a post in the wee hours of the morning? If so, Welcome! And here’s all I know to help with your question.
Monster has been charged with child neglect which could get her maybe 2-5 years. Not sure what the penalty is for the obstruction of justice/lying to police charge.
In addition there are 13 economic charges having to do with her stealing a friend’s checkbook and writing checks for about $700 and possibly bouncing a forged check too.
These charges include: uttering a forged instrument, fraudulent use of personal information and petty theft (probably all three charges for each of the checks she stole).
The check charges add up to a max of 71 years, but she is probably looking at only 1-2 years for that because the amount she stole was only about $700 and a first offense (as far as we know).
Hope that helps!
AMY the trust fund has been cancelled???
YES THAT speaks VOLUMES to me also..
Snookers,
Thanks for the info, that was Kristina,
I DID NOT KNOW she came back later and spoke against M, wow thats for that info as she had been placing M in high esteem when I saw her a couple months back on TV…
I also heard the extended family of the A’s wants nothing to do with the case… THAT SPEAKS voumnes tome, also…
i know, they allowed their daughter to dig this hole then they climbed in
Hi, again, Minnie!
The family refuses to believe that the child is dead so they are furious with anyone who searches for a dead child. All they will do is (supposedly) pass on tips they receive about a possible sighting of a live child. However they pass these tips to the same cops they’ve raged at for mishandling the investigation and for searching for a dead body.
So in short. No. They have never actually searched for Caylee themselves in any way.
The news that the overseers of the trust fund to search for Caylee are backing out reminded me of the following post which suggested we all email the Fl Att’y General to request that an advocate for Caylee be named. I think it’s a good idea since no one is really looking after her interests right now. The cops are trying to in their way but a trust to help search for her could have helped fund EquuSearch and others and who knows what else?
Here’s the post:
TXBoy said,in September 19th, 2008 at 7:26 pm I emailed the Attorney General of Florida this week. I wondered if Caylee could not be made a Ward of State and have a State Attorney appointed. It seems that this little girls interests are not being represented very well. I’ve not had a reply but maybe the people on this blog could do the same thing, pressure sometimes leads to action and this girl does need a voice. You can find the AG email address on the FL government web site.
twocents,
Question for your you.
I get confused with charges and formal charges.
I guess the only formal charges are the economic ones.
Otherwise I cannot understand why BB is not asking for a speedy trial on the child neglect since some evidence could be used that they would need for a homicide trial.
Not sure if the same evidence can be used twice.
I only hope that the Ants put all those pennies and nickels in their driveway into the fund for Caylee. (LOL)
2cents
i just read that Cindy is accusing Jesse of placing Caylee’s Body in the trunk of Casey’s car, how can that be misconstrued with
REFUSING to believe Caylee is dead??
gotta go bbl bye bye everyone
Snookers, good questions. Wish I had the answers but we’re learning as we go. Looking at the way the economic charges were handled I guess they can charge her and then “finalize” them. So maybe that’s the case with child neglect and they haven’t gotten to the 2nd phase on that.
And I agree that they may be holding off on child neglect in case they need the same evidence for homicide charges later. I think the lawyers would definitely get in an argument about the same evidence being used twice. But I don’t know what the law is on that. Might be something a judge has to decide and who would want to leave something that crucial to a murder trial up to a judge?
2cents,
LOL, those punk protesters were just making a donation to the “find Caylee fund” or M’s defense fund in a rather unusual way, at the request of C & G.
There is no Caylee trust fund anymore the bank and the lawyers shut it down, due to harrassinf e-mails.
cj I don’t know.
C has come up with some wild ones so far – like “it was somebody else’s body in the trunk.” “Someone from the tow yard put it there.”
To attack Jesse is really desperate. But who knows? Maybe monster told her family that story and they’re going with it. But yes it would be a total about-face, 180 degree turn for that woman. However I would not be surprised if she could turn her head ALL the way around (360 degrees) like her daughter can!
Can we be sure of the source of that info about what C is saying? Did that come out in an interview on Geraldo?
QUESTION!
On that Geraldo interview, did anyone ask Jesse how he found out about C being the person who is spreading that Jesse is trying to frame her daughter?
You know me… I’m looking for that thread to ties these things together.
So, who told Jesse that? That’s what I want to know. In the interview with Jesse’s father, I’m pretty sure that he said that framing Jesse was coming from monster and the defense team.
To me that means that BB is the one coaching the Ants on their defense strategy. But, we all know that C can’t keep her mouth shut… which is a plus for us who support the prosecution team because now they know which direction the defense is headed. Of course I bet a dollar to a donut that the defense will have to change their strategy all because of C.
By the way… Hello to everyone!:)
Hey, Dak. Please see my note above at 2:08.
Assuming the trust really was to help search for the little girl I think it’s a shame it’s being shut down. The child needs an advocate!
(Unless the cops have told the bank more than we’ve been told – like she’s really for sure w/o a doubt deceased or something – I don’t understand why it would be shut down.)
twocents,
The judge will be extremely important in this trail. Hope it is a good one.
Hope somebody like Judge Henry Jackson in the Vick case . He(the judge) is on my heroe’s short list since he saved almost all the pitbulls and made Vick pay 1 mil for their future care.
They shut it down due to the bank and the lawyer involved getting harrassing e-mails questioning the use of the fund, which the lawyer says he can account for every penny spent and none went to the Anthony’s.
Wonder what happened to the bucks in that trust fund To BB??
2cents you asked;
Can we be sure of the source of that info about what C is saying? Did that come out in an interview on Geraldo?
yes it was on the Geraldo show as I read earlier in this blog, that Jesse said C is accusing him.
yes mytwocents its same minnie thanks for clearing that up for me its such a low jail time for child neglect.i understand that family probly cant leave their house now but i feel if they realy belived that caylee was out there the would be out looking for her and they might get more public support,its their lack of action thats points to them knowing more about what has happened to caylee.
Lawyers talk out of both sides of their mouth… funds probably did not go the Ants. Some probably went directly to pay their bills, thus bypassing the Anthony’s hands.
Snookers if you are talking about the Caylee trust fund they went to flyers, water for volunteers etc none to the Ants or lawyers.
Snookers- yes the Vick judge is terrific! Bless him! And yes I thought the best defense for those protesters would be “I’m donating!”
MMT – with you on trying to pin down the source of Jesse’s statement that C is blaming him. Could be monster mouth told him – she can’t keep her mouth shut any better than her mother can!
Do you all think Monster has a new phone? If so her brother probably got it for her in his name and it would be harder to get a warrant for tapping a phone in his name.
And where is LeeVic? Long time no see.
Well MMT the lawyer syas he has all accounts of what the money went for.
minnie, most of us are in full agreement!
And what got my goat was right about the time C was screaming that the child was in Puerto Rico they came into some money – from some mysterious source – and promptly hired themselves a criminal defense attorney. Mark Nejame (we call him Count Dracula because he looks like him). If the Ants were so concerned with finding Caylee and so unhappy with the way the cops were conducting the info they could have hired a private investigation firm to follow up on Puerto Rico and elsewhere.
But no. The money went to save their butts making it very clear that it is everybody else’s job to find Caylee – not the Anthonys.
Dak,
Wasnot there any balance left when they closed it down? If, yes , who got it.
Minnie, you are sooooo right! The Ants should be out there hitting the pavement looking for Caylee, if they feel she is still alive. One leads by example not by criticizing others and pointing fingers at LE. There is someone in their house watching monster 24/7 they don’t need to be there too. I believe their lack of searching for Caylee IS the reason why so many have not only lost respect for them but compassion as well.
Very little and it went to the Law firm handling the account.
MMT – I agree (w/ 2:36)
Dak,
Really. Which law firm was that.
Bichler & Kelley PA is the lawfirm.
Well this saga continues but I BELIEVE THIS week we are gonna be in for some INCREDIBLE NEWS
YES!!
CAYLEE, WE LOVE YOU SWEET LITTLE GIRL…
BBL
Mytwocents, I agree with you that monster can’t keep her mouth shut anymore than C. But, I wish Geraldo would have asked Jesse point blank how he found that out so that we wouldn’t have to second guess.
It would be great to know that monster is stupid enough to email people she still considers “friends” when in reality they are not too friendly with her anymore. But, then on the other hand, now that I think about it, it’s better to just let monster be her usualy self and keep talking and lying, talking and lying, talking and lying.
MMT – Well Geraldo never was a stickler for accurate or reliable reporting. (LOL!)
At least he wasn’t until he was drawing a very precise map in the sand to show the location of American soldiers in Iraq! (it’s funny now but then – he should have been shot! On the spot!)
i dont know if you guys heard of little madeline mccann who was taken from her bed while on holidays with her family her parents hired the best private invs the could get and all of money in fund is spent trying to find her which i pray and belive the will but from watching the reaction of the whole anthony family it is very clear that they just want to protect the very person who has harmed caylee and who has all the answers
minnie! Exactly! And yes we have heard of the McCann child and pray for her too. The difference between her family and the Anthonys is like night and day!
mytwocents, I so agree with what you said in your 2:53 pm post. LOL I can’t believe that drawing the map in the sand did not destroy Geraldo’s career. Too bad it didn’t becaue so many, like myself, have no respect for him now.
I think this week is the week…
Momsters day of freedom are certainly numbered.
On way or another, that gal is going back to jail, where she belongs.
I bet she’s finding being on home/attny confinement isn’t all that it’s cracked up to be….
Tks for info Dak,
Guess the Ants family now lost their source for free t shirts with that account being closed….
With reference to the bank account, believe me, the banks don’t care if they get emails.. that’s not going to cause them to shut off an account, give me a break…
Perhaps those who started it, had a change of heart, or that businesses, don’t want to have their good honest names attached to that neglectful, fraudulent momster.
Snookers, maybe they can use some of their own coin for those t-shirts, hand bags and those groovy sunglasses that ms. M. likes to wear, thinking that she’s jackie’o!
See Amy thats the same negative attitude that keeps people from believing anything. Can you prove the statement about the banks. And yes the banks will close down an acoount if the recieved concerns or accusations that the funds were being used falsefully which they weren’t. They also said there wasn’t much in the account anywhere.
Amy,
Her lawyers will say she wears those sunglasses to hide her eyes because they are red from crying. Yeah,right.
Amy,
Another reason for closing the account is because there is some truth to the rumor that remains were found
Or it could just be the reason the bank and the lawyer stated how unusual could that be and why does there always have to be some alterior motive to do something.
Minnie, I too believe that the Ants are now more focused on saving their daughter and have let go of the loving thoughts of their beloved granddaughter Caylee. They are no longer even stepping out of the house to look for Caylee. It’s despicable! Monster did not just start lying a couple of months ago. She’s a long term pathological liar, who could always pull the wool over her parent’s eyes. I can’t even imagine what kind of lies she is telling them in that house right now. But, soon, I’m sure, she will be charged with murder and facing the prosecution team and jurors who only believe in proven facts and evidence. Monster will have come to the end of the line.
I believe I saw that the same Geraldo show will be aired again today. Will check and see. I caught about 5 minutes of one re-airing in the wee hrs. of the morning. Hopefully it will be aired again tonight.
BRB
From the Orlando Sentinel just now. Tonight’s prayer vigil cancelled. At last an end to the hypocrisy.
Prayer vigil for missing Florida girl is cancelled
Sara K. Clarke | The Associated Press
1:53 PM EDT, September 21, 2008
The family of a missing 3-year-old Caylee Anthony says they have to cancel a prayer vigil for the toddler this evening to ensure their safety.
“This is in the best interest of everyone,” said Larry Garrison, an Anthony family spokesman based in Los Angeles. “We’re hoping to bring peace back to the neighborhood, that’s all.”
Me again: Larry, you ARE a BS artiste! But that’s what they hired you for, isn’t it?
Have to mention in case you didn’t see my earlier post that last night a woman sitting on the sidewalk with a candle was doused with the sprinkler by security guards and warned off by police. Sitting there with a candle?
Perhaps the utter ridiculosity (I love that “word”) of having a vigil right after doing that to someone has occurred to someone with 1/2 of a brain.
Amy, I agree with you that the banks don’t care if they get emails. They do, however, care when customers start closing their accounts with them. Now that’s motivation for them to shut down such an account. I’m also sure that when closing their account people made it VERY clear that, as a customer, they do not want to be associated with a neglectful, fraudulent monster. I bet also, that they were not getting too many new customers joining their bank.
Well, looks like the Count finally gave them some good advise and they are listening to him..
M is radioactive to any business that cheerish their PR.
So MMT are saying that the bank closed the account because other people were closing theres.
i also think that if she is charged with murder or any other charges that she will play the insanity card and be sent to a cosy hospital,i dont believe for one minute that she is anything but a spoilt brat who was jealous of her own daughter and that caylee was only a toy for her to use aqainst her parents to get what she wanted
Geraldo at Large is re-airing the Jesse Grund interview tonight at 10pm ET and again at 1am ET.
Snookers, the Count probably did tell them to do that. But also I think it was getting a little embarrassing. Very few people showed up to the last one. Now that might be because sincere supporters of the Ants (and there probably are some) are afraid to go to a vigil for fear of violence. But I also think the number of supporters has diminished as time has gone on. Especially after C blasted EquuSearch and they’ve done nothing to search for the child themselves.
BTW, I don’t like calling him the Count because he will love it. Too positive. But it’s shorter than Dracula. Can we consider Drac?
Dak, now you getting really funny?
Are you smoking something over there?
Tks Gumshoe,
Will watch it. Jesse has intrigued me from day one.
Besides I like Geraldo, likeable fellow but not perfect like most of us.
Hi, Minnie! Some of our TV shows (not sure where you are) have had psychologists on who have said that in spite of her apparent aberrant behavior (like pathological lying ) she is quite sane. No way can she be found insane. So I take some comfort in that.
MTC, Drac it is
Drac, might have also said, it’s time folks to start taking my advice, or else, I’m bailing off of the case…
minnie, I believe this:
because she is enjoying every iota of attention this case is getting, however negative it may be, she will NEVER allow an insanity plea. She sees herself as a star who is above reproach and fully expects her parents to get her out of this another mess. But there are 2 things she will never do:
#! Tell the truth about what happened to Caylee
#2 Plead insanity
That’s why I think Baez is squirming. Any plausible defense he can come up with has to be changed daily as her story changes and the lies inflate. She has an enormous insatiable ego and the media frenzy is feeding it. It’s all about her–all attention is on her. She won’t give up that stardom in exchange for a psych ward. She’d rather take her chances on a hung jury or a few years in the slammer (where she would still be notorious)
Don’t you wonder how the Ants can be around the monster for all this time and not notice that she absolutely without emotion in her voice and spirit for Caylee?
Never once in the interviews with LE, did she even come close to talking about Caylee and how there is a chance that she is being mistreated. A mother wants to know that her child is okay and will come back to them. Never did monster utter ‘I’m so worried about Caylee. Is she okay, is she eating, is she warm enough, are they hurting her.’
Monster did say “There is a possibility that I may never see Caylee again” Even her lies are a telltale account of her selfishness. Notice she says “I may never see her again.” It’s all about me, me me.
Heck, my two sons went camping, with a group of friends, this weekend and it got cold and I started to worry that they didn’t take enough blankets. They no longer live at home and are 32 and 34 years old. LOL
Mytwocents,
I really donot dislike the Count. Looks like a cool smart dude to me. He also believes that Caylee is dead, if you listened to his brief interview on NG between the lines awhile ago.. Not keeping that myth alive like BB. Drac name reminds me of Vlad the Impaler, which he is not.
snookers said,in September 21st, 2008 at 3:10 pm Amy,
Her lawyers will say she wears those sunglasses to hide her eyes because they are red from crying. Yeah,right.
snookers, Amy–she wears the sunglasses because she thinks she is a STAR. And , actually she is. But the fame she is enjoying is negative and the ‘fans’ she thinks she has want nothing more than to have her pay for her part in Caylee’s abuse and death.
Dakdude3… I managed a bank at one time.
YES, I am saying that!
Losing customers hurts a bank. Customers are their bread and butter!
Orlando Sentinel has an article today about all the websleuths trying to crack the case.
It’s so apparent that her spirit isn’t broken.
Mom’s and dad’s who go through something this traumatic experience, will show their stress… Not her..
Gumshoe, I would donate $$$ to the search of caylee if I can knock those silly glasses off of the momsters face, even if it’s just once
Amy, are you asking MY permission? Heck, girl, go ahead!! LOL
People have said they wonder about G and him taxing his heart with all of this stress. It is a medical fact: stress can kill you. But I think C is far closer to a breakdown than G. She seems to be a type A personality, hyper, high-strung, far less capable of anger control than G.
I do not think she will make it through the coming months without a major breakdown. She is a prime candidate for a stroke or heart attack. This isn’t a *new* thing that she is going through, just the *worst* thing M has done. But the stress has been years long. She has lost weight and her face is drawn. If she hasn’t taken the time to sit down and cry this out, then she may not get the chance. Her physical heart may do it for her.
Snookers, I understand what you’re saying about Nejame. I painted him with the same brush as so many in the case because at the time I was just so shocked that they 1) hired a criminal defense attorney and (2) the first thing he did was go on a PR campaign to improve their image! I know it’s his job but at the time I thought – what’s more important to the Ants? Improving their image and covering their butts? Or finding Caylee. The $ that went to him could have paid for a PI to go to Puerto Rico – it was the timing you see.
And now that you mentioned it I do remember some “wording” in his remarks that might indicate he/they believe Caylee is gone. I think part of his job is to try to keep the “bloodstains” on Monster from staining the parents from a legal standpoint.
snookers… a long time ago we all agreed to disagree. So, here I am saying that I think the name Drac fits Count Dracula. As you said, he is a smart dude alright, but his job is to put a spin on everything the Ants have done so far to damage their image. He will try to polish them up to a glistening shine, so that people once again respect and have empathy for them. Not because of anything they do but because of how he spins things around to make them look good. All I know, so far, is that the Ants are protecting their monster daughter from telling the truth. They continue to buy in to her lies and deceit. I find it hard to like Drac anymore than I like the Ants at this time. I’m always open to change my mind… but for something I see the Ants doing not for something Drac is getting paid make it look like they’re doing.
NeJame skirted around the Anthony’s knowing Caylee is gone. He said “They are in denial which is the first step in the grief process. For them to put a shovel in the ground would be acknowledging that Caylee is dead and they aren’t ready to do that”
If they are in the first step of the grief process, then that means they are grieving a dead Caylee.
mytwocents i live in ireland so can only follow in internet but its good to know that the experts are saying that she is sane although its hard to believe so that just means that she is pure evil and i hate to think of all she has put little caylee through. yes gumshoe ur right she believes she is some sort of superstar and she is now getting all the attention she craves.
My short theory on the case.
M leaves home on 6/16 with Caylee. Comes back later after making sure nobody is home. Does her despicable deed.(she only left the house earlier to make George believe she had a job).
Leaves dead Caylee somewhere on the property.
At this pont she is also working on a plausible story (in her mind) to explain Caylee’s absence.
Comes back later to pick Caylee up. Maybe next day. Disposes of Caylee somewhere and back to party time and screwing.
After 6/24 she retrieves Caylee again and puts her in the trunk. Now there is much odor.
On 6/25 she calls Jesse to help her to dispose of body in a more hard to find place.
On 6/26 they accomplish that and Jesse follows her in his car to Amscot lot. Car dumped on 6/26 after business hours. leaves with Jesse.
Jesse drops her off at car next morning after she already had called Tony to make sure she did not have to wait long. Back to party timne and screwing again.
End of story.
Minnie, you may know about this already or maybe it doesn’t work from Ireland. But try to access the web sites of local news organizations in Orlando for info. They’re updated daily usually. Some are:
myfoxorlando.com
wesh.com
wftv.com
orlandosentinel.com
local6.com (That’s with two letter “l”s as in LOCAL)
twocents
Ireland??????
Yes, Snookers. Minnie said she lives in Ireland. Another blogger was on who is in Western Australia!
Snookers, I only have a few questions regarding your theory that Jesse was involved and I may have asked this before…
Jesse called LE way before they even had a chance to contact him. And he was willing to have them interview him and openly talk about monster. Why would he do that if he was involved? (I would think he would want to lay low)
I understand that Jesse passed a polygraph test. (Why would he even take one if he was guilty?
I’m sure they asked Jesse all the pertinent questions when he took the polygraph test, such as “Were you involved, in any way, with Caylee’s disappearance?” And many, many more such questions. (How would he have passed the polygraph… I heard it’s almost impossible to do?
snookers, its so sad to read your theory that a mother or anyone could do this to an innocent child but its probly very likely that this is what happened and even sadder that her family is protecting her.
Sorry, did not realize Minnie is from Ireland.
Cool, an international blogger.
MMT,
I did not know that Jesse passed a polygraph test. Link???
I used Jesse’s name but it could be another person as a helper, however,donot think it was LV. No clue who it could be.
It bothers me however, that the Amscot manager did not report seeing an occupant of the car at 07.00 am on June 27th.
If we know where M spent the night on 6/26, it might explain more.
thanks twocents il check them out.yes snookers was in orlando in august with my daughter for holiday and watched case every nite and caylee has never left my thoughts i am a single mum and no matter how tough things get at times i cant imagine m thinking and why she has done what she has done. have to go its night here across the big pond il check in 2morrow and thanks for ur thoughts and listening to mine.
The defense attorneys on Nancy Grace always say the best defense is to go after the boyfriend. The problem is Casey had so many boyfriends it’s difficult to figure out who to go after.
I doubt if Baez is going to say Jesse killed Caylee. Jesse might have figured Cindy blamed him because she probably didn’t like him. I know Jesse Grund loved Casey but I think he loved Caylee too after believing she was his daughter for at least a year. I doubt if he had anything to do with it. He took a lie detector test.
If anybody helped Casey dispose of the body or cover up, it would be big brother Lee, who has been covering up her messes since she was old enough to get in trouble. He refused to take a lie detector test.
I think Baez will stick with “the nanny kidnapped Caylee” defense because if he now says Jesse did it and framed Casey, he is admitting she lied to the police. My bet is Baez will stick to the Anthonys claim that the imaginary Zenaida threatened to harm Caylee and her family if Casey told the truth and when she thought Casey had told someone the nanny killed Caylee and put the body in the trunk and took it out while it was at the towing yard. Sure Zenaida is a Houdini too?
I don’t believe anyone as arrogant and full of herself as Casey would ever plead insanity. She will say to the end she is innocent and left “my daughter with someone I trusted who betrayed my trust.”
Snookers and MMT – I know I saw in the news that Jesse and two other friends all took lie detector tests. I put it in a blog a few days ago. Will try to find the source but it would be from one of the local Orlando news stations which is what I read most of the time.
I believe Casey deliberately made up the nanny so she could blame it on someone who can’t be found. If she blames it on a real person who actually exists they can take a lie detector test and the police can rule them out.
Because she doesn’t exist, Zenaida the nanny who was Casey’s friend for four years will never be found and maybe neither will Caylee so the defense can use that as reasonable doubt.
They may be able to find one juror who will believe Caylee is alive because they don’t want to believe a little girl could be killed by her own mother. Of course, Casey is tiny and will look like a movie star. Baez might even teach her how to shed “crocodile tears” for the jury.
mytwocents,
Yes, I did read that many friends (including Jesse)took lie detector tests. Never read the results though.
Stumbled on this from Sept 18 WFTV. THought you all would get a kick out of it. BoBo IS an amateur – or maybe just a lousy lawyer.
Article:
CASEY’S ATTORNEY MAY HAVE BOTCHED LEGAL REQUEST
It appears Casey Anthony’s attorney, Jose Baez, botched his legal request to force detectives to stop testing evidence in the case.
Baez filed a motion with the Clerk of Court a week ago, asking for a halt to the lab testing being done by investigators to give him a chance to weigh in on how and where it’s done. Baez claimed investigators might be more concerned with cost and expediency than they are about accuracy and fairness.
The legal merits of his motion have yet to be decided, because Baez blundered by not notifying the judge assigned to the case about his motion. Nor has he asked the judge for a hearing. So his motion sits in the clerk’s office on the second floor of the courthouse going nowhere.
Anthony’s trial for child neglect and lying to investigators is scheduled for November 17. Eyewitness News asked Baez’s public relations firm whether he plans to ask for a hearing, but the firm has not returned the call.
Eyewitness News also learned that Baez was almost an hour late for the sentencing of his client, Nilton Diaz, in a Lake County child abuse death the day Anthony was released the first time. That same day, Baez shoved a reporter. He also kept the Lake County judge, the victim’s family and witnesses waiting. When he arrived, he made no apology.
Baez also requested a special hearing the day before that, asking for a delay in Diaz’s sentencing, telling the judge he expected the media to follow him to Lake County after Anthony’s release and that it would be prejudicial to Anthony.
Lake County Circuit Judge Mark Nacke denied Baez’s request for that delay. Baez ended up taking Casey back to her house the day she was released from jail before he headed to Lake County. No reporters followed him to Lake County that day. (End of article)
MMT,
Ofcourse I donot get upset if somebody disagree with me. It would be a boring blog indeed if everybody agrees. Actually I pay more attention to posts that disagree than those that agree. And quite often have to revise my initial thinking.
gumshoe,
Are you here?
Snookers I have not seen any test results either but the fact that all three are still walking around free at least speaks to finding no (or little) damning evidence. (I’m assuming)
Hi everyone,
Just checking in to see what’s new.
mytwocents–
love that article. They painted a great word picture of BoBo.
hey Catherine–I’m here.
Catherine, Geraldo’s interview of Jesse will be airing again tonight 10pm ET and 1am ET
CAC wow i think you have made some very relevant statements, thanks for sharing about bobo too and his mishaps lil
well,
i am of the mind that indeed zanny will get all the blame from the defense and bb will hope the jury believes this of MANY lies..
hover i think the jury will be prudent and intelligewnt enoughjt o weight the facts and decide there is NO zanny and NEVER was, not in this case anyway and bb will lose,
FAIR and square!
I also think lv may likely have helped M to move Caylee, to her very unfinal and informal resting place.. tears..
snookers,
I just read a few earlier blogs. I agree with your theory about M. going back to the house after G. left for work. The flurry of calls on June 16th is to make sure no one is home. I think she did murder Caylee, and then put her body in the playhouse, then the sandbox and then put the lid on the sandbox. She then started thinking that she should bury Caylee in the yard. The cadaver dogs hit on three areas in the backyard. The sandbox, the playhouse, and a area in the corner where the storage box was. She then calls her mother at 7:00 P:M: to make sure her mother hasn;t discovered anything. Her mother tells her about the ladder on the pool, and M. says it’s probably the kids in the neighborhood. The next flurry of calls on the 18th of June was to check if anyone was at the house. She drives over to her parents house, backs into the garage and goes to the next door neighbor to borrow a shovel. She wraps Caylee’s body in something, and puts her in the trunk of her car. After the 18th is my problem with this case. Did she bury her again at the airport or at UCF or did she drive around with her for a few days in her trunk? I am leaning towards M. burying her on the 18th only because the body would start decomposing and the smell could be detected by anyone that would come near her car.
I think Jesse is involved somehow, I do like your theory about Jesse picking her up on June 26th and then dropping her back off on the 27th.
sorry for all the typos think you can read anyways lol
grandson still here, cooking dinner and cleaning drapes and windows, so in and out for now. still reading
gumshoe,
Sent you something. Check to see if you got it.
gumshoe,
My spacebar came off my laptop, so I can’t type on it. Using my husband’s laptop until Dell sends a new keyboard. Pain in the you know where. LOL
When I saw the Geraldo interview with Jesse I just get the feeling he is not being truthful. I think the guy still loves M. and doesn’t want her to go to jail. Geraldo asked Jesse if he knew what C. was saying about him killing Caylee, and putting Caylee’s body in M.’s trunk. He said, yes he heard about it and it is untrue he would never hurt Caylee.
About LV and rest of ants refusing lie detectors. I donot think there is anything sinister about that.
Per BH they all agreed to lie detector in his RV but LV left to go into the house. When he came back, he advised his parents against the lie detector and would not do it himself either.
Obviously he went into the house to contact an attorney. Possible BB and BB advised against it.
If C would have taken a lie detector test may the Zany story would be debunked and afterall ,I think that BB is building his defense on that fictional character.
On the other hand , if M mentioned nanny to her mother often it sounds very close to zanny.
Anyway, I think they all refused the lie detector test on the advise of an attorney.
BTW, nobody ever gets arrested solely on not passing a lie detector test. They had to have more than that on them.
I got the one last night, Catherine, yes. Is that the one you mean? (that’s the only one I have from you)
gumshoe,
the photo?
I only got to see 5 minutes of the Jesse interview. I have to reserve comment until I see it all tonight.
gumshoe,
Yes, I’m curious to hear what you have to say about the interview.
oh NO, Catherine! I haven’t gotten anything today–I just checked. Can you re-send?
mytwocents,
BB certainly doesn’t sound like he knows what he doing, going by your blog earlier. I hope that DA and the judge jump on everything he says. He is way in over his head with this case. The Count is better qualified to represent M., but he knows he can win that’s why he wants no part of it.
Each day passes with less information being shared by Law enforcement. I would like to think they have plenty of solid evidence against this woman, but if that’s true, why are they waiting so long to arrest and charge her with murder? Even without a body, she could be charged with so much circumstantial evidence to put her in prison.
I’ve said in other posts that I do not believe Casey Anthony will EVER confess to killing her daughter. Everyone is trying to figure out how she can be so cold and unconcerned for her child’s wellbeing. The thing is she KNOWS where that girl is and has no intention of ever telling. She also knows that she will probably go to prison for the “economic charges” she has been charged with. She can even serve time for child “neglect”, but that won’t be as severe as charges for killing her own daughter.
So, she can sit this out forever and watch the circus go by. Her parents apparently can not admit the girl is dead. Even if Casey has told them what she did, they just can’t seem to pass that information along to authorities. This is very sad and telling ,as to the “hold” she has over those people. For the rest of their years, they will live with knowing their daughter killed the beautiful child they loved.
Remember Jon Benet Ramsey. That beauty is dead all these years and no one will ever be charged. I think this case might be the same.
I’m thinking if there is enough evidence, Casey Anthony would have been charged months ago. She is enjoying her notoriety and no feelings for her parents or anyone else.. only herself.
Lots of people will make some money from this case, even Casey. Since she will never be found guilty of murder, she can probably make money from appearances and talk shows and eventually a book and movie.
Everyone in the news media and blogging forums are trying to figure this woman out. We have been holding her to standards that we share as human beings. I truly believe she does not have the human qualities that could make her accountable to any “human being standards”. Thus, she will get away with the murder of this beautiful child.
All the while.. she will never tell what she did or what she knows. Its almost too late for her to do that.
Just as with OJ, everyone is hoping he serves a long term (if convicted) in Las Vegas. Not for the silliness in that hotel room, but he NEEDS to serve time in prison for murders that he got away with committing. The same goes for Casey Anthoney.
Lets hope the lesser charges that she faces can have solid evidence and combined, give her enough time behind bars, so she doesn’t get out for a very long time.
Lets also hope that she is somehow forced to have some sort of procedure to make sure she never breeds again. Even if she had another child and the grandparents were committed to raising that child, look how well they handled it THIS time! Lets stop this family from reproducing.
God bless Caylee.. she never had a chance.
gumshoe,
Ok I’ll resend it. BRB
On the lighter side,
We have given mostof the players neat names.
Like to attach a song to them.
BB: over my head ( Cable Car)
M: time is on my side.(Stones)
The rest??
Elaine,
I think LE has found Caylee when the search was called off so abrutly. I think they are doing the testing on the remains, and when all their t’s are crossed, and their i’s are dotted this monster will be brought to justice. My concern is that someone will kill her before she goes to court for killing Caylee. She drives back and forth to BB’s office with her brother five days a week at the same time each day. Someone may just think they are doing society a favor by taking her out. I hope that doesn’t happen because I want to see her face when she gets the death sentence for murdering her baby.
snookers,
You are too funny.
Elaine, if Monster was interviewed today by media it would be like a “sideshow.” Everyone looking to see something like the “bearded lady,” the “two-headed man,” the “part-donkey/part devil” characters that are or were in carnivals.
She’s so obviously an “alien” being – at least judging from her behavior when her child went missing and during her police interviews and everything else we’ve learned.
I’m concerned because if she is not convicted of murder and only does a few years on the other charges she may come out with less of a “sideshow” image than she deserves.
Hopefully no one will want to buy HER book because who’s interested in MORE lies?
Elaine,
You are right. M is a “being” sans “human”.
Elaine, I’m all for keeping her from reproducing.
But I don’t feel this will be an unsolved case as in JonBenet. There was no evidence at all found to tie the parents to her death and the whole crime scene was compromised, her body moved, covered, etc…
This is different in that Casey has a track record from hell. There are witnesses to her lying, stealing, saying she didn’t want Caylee. The body was in her trunk. She is not distraught nor sad. She has told several different stories.
My feeling is that she will be nailed.
**********
Catherine–OK–I will check.
gumshoe,
Ok sent it.
snookers, songs,
Ant’s: I love you, you love me, we’re a happy family, with a great big hug and a kiss from me to you, won’t you say you love me too.
by the Purple Dinosaur, Barney
L: Lean On Me
Cindy:Going out of my mind
LV: Who let the dogs out
Good ones Gumshoe
Have to go BBL
gumshoe,
I do think she will get nailed too.
Love the song!
hi everyone
Is the water warm tonight? I’m ready to dive in…Hi everyone.
snookers,
Perfect song for C.& G.
no new news ? i normally would say no news is good news but not in this case
Hi Kris & Sabrina,
Kris I sent you something. Did you get it?
hi catherine how’s it going, hi kris, hi everyone to many names to type lol
I’ll check..been doing alot of housework today, never checked after I sent you you something earlier..did you get that Catherine?
Sabrina,
I apolgize if I said something that offended you last night.
Hey sabrina..people will think we were hanging out together..we entered at the same time tonight..lol.
Kris,
Yes, I got it.
catherine hun no way you’ve never hurt my feelings…i don’t understand why you think so, but it’s ok i’m not offended *HUGS*
Sabrina,
Ok that’s good.
Hope you understand my reasoning with it Catherine. I just get a little panicky sometimes about that, always over protective for the sake of lil ones. Thats why I feel so strongly about these cases, like helping is a sort of a calling.
Very nice pic Catherine… You look good together.
kris lol i wish all of us could meet some day, how are us all gonna keep intouch once this case is over with ???
Kris,
I totally understand.
Me too sabrina, I was gonna apologize also. Just didn’t understand the timing of your exit. Hope I didn’t hurt you either.
Got it, Catherine! Answered. Again, beautiful
Hi Kris,
I have to go eat. I think I’ve let my sugar bottom out.
Be back in a bit everybody to see what may take the place of the vigil. Never know. Is there a full moon tonight?
Kris,
Thanks, is that how you pictured me?
As sad as this is to say, I believe there will always be a case out there that will need us to blog and give theories. These poor kids go missing everyday, so if this happens we will find a way to email a link to each other wherever or help is needed and we can work together once again.
kris same to you as i said to catherine…you both have been good friends to me…hey gals just got company sister inlaw, so i’ll have to get off for a bit bbl BYE BYE
Catherine to be honest with you, I really never put a face with any of the names in here, but it’s nice now that I can with some. You look very good for someone who went and is going through what you did.
Kris,
I am in a visual buisness so I just pile on the make up, and put on a big smile, even when I feel like sh-t.
I stopped wearing my makeup, I use to dress up real nice all the time. But since I felt like sh*t, I just didn’t have it in me no more. So he would start to rag on me, called me a bag lady once when I dressed up in oversized sweats and a jacket w/no makeup. I was severly anemic then after one surgery..he was rude to me.
Just sent you an email Catherine. Forgive me my craziness.
Kris,
Check for my answer.
Thankyou…I can become very paranoid when it comes to any of the children, the cases and my own little rugrat too….lol
I’m going to die being an overprotective mother I think. I’ll probably chaperone her till she’s 16 at least..lol.
Still there Catherine..Where’d everyone head off to?
Kris
Answered it.
Guess we chaaed them away.
Hoped not…I didn’t say anything bad I don’t think…Checking my breath right now for garlic..lol.
I’m glad Sabrina is not mad about last night. She left so fast after I made that comment that I felt awful.
elaine
have to agree with you on your earlier post, I feel the same way whats taking so long? if they could (charge her) you would think they would nail her, you know LE is waiting for anything, you know they despise her more than even we do… and this could be an unsolved case. I feel the same way about caylee… your at peace dear little one from this mess of a family, but a nation did embrace you if only in memory… she’ll never be forgotten by myself after caring so much about what has happened to her…
Did you make pasta again? I had a bowl of cherrio’s, and my husband had Chinese delivered. That works for me.
Me too Catherine… I did just send you something to share with you. You may be amazed.
Hi pammy…How is it going?
pammy,
Do you think LE is just trying to get to BB and M. by not charging her? BB is on the edge of his seat waiting for LE to give him the discovery info. and LE knows it.
Where is LV?
Kris,
Send it to the ms address.
ji kris, well day off but had a work meeting earlier, then cleaned and then decided to blob on the couch and play with liz…its nice and quiet right now… I been reading all the blogs, its hard to get on here cause then I don’t get anything done in my house, and i need to be. i suppose nothing new has happened or I would have read it here, this blog is like the inside scoop lol
catherine who is LV and I just don’t now anymore you know it has been since what july, this is mid sept. you wonder what is going on? why wait? they hate her down there. you’d think they would arrest. i read elaines post and it made sense this could never be solved, then part of me demands that yes it will happen lol
I think that was the one I sent it to Catherine.
So pammy was she better for you today? Sometimes they’re like brand new personalities the next day.
Hi, All!
I’m taking the liberty of reposting a note that Elaine wrote earlier today because most of the folks on-line now weren’t on-line then.
Please don’t be offended. I read that many of you already thought of this and exchanged emails last night so you already have another way of talking about personal things. I don’t mind that. I think it’s great and you should do that and enjoy it. And then come back here to blog about Caylee whenever and however much you want.
Elaine said,
in September 21st, 2008 at 12:16 pm
You know… I have read many posts on these (Caylee Anthony) blogs from people stating this is the FIRST time they have ever blogged.
I have been blogging for a few years now and find the best blogs are the ones that stick to the topic of the blog headline. That way, the blog moves quickly and doesn’t get slowed down with many “personal info” posts.
I have learned that when a blog is ongoing, the regular bloggers do form a connection of sorts. BUT.. remember, this particular blog is for postings about the Caylee Anthony case, nothing more.
To fill the space with posts back and forth between bloggers regarding their personal lives, etc. is taking away from the purpose the blog was originally intended.
Now, there is NO reason that bloggers cannot become friendly and share information, but that should be done thru their own email or internet messagings.
Please don’t be insulted by this post, I am very interested and impressed with most of the informative posts regarding the Anthony MESS. But, alsoI see many of the posts are complaining about the bogging down slowness of the site and that is because there are too many “non-Caylee” postings lately.
A seasoned blogger would agree with me, I am sure.
Again,. keep up the good work of CAYLEE posts, but lets try to remember why this blog was formed.
Thank you!
Oh, I read that but I don’t care about that, I read everyones and I can say noone upsets me on here lol… I read them all, and feel everyone writing on here is equal to an opinion…this blog is quite slow…
kris
well, not really, a few outburts the neighbor wayched her while i had to suffer through a work meeting on my day off! and said she was good for her.
she starts am pre school in the morning. the daycare she attends has daycare one side pre school other, although I didn’t want her gone all day i am doing 2 mornings, one being my day off, so thats she gets to attend without it being too long a day for her. I am hoping the pre school activities help her.. we’ll see.. I never seen her behaviour so bad i tell you.. i mean its one minute peaches and cream the next screaming over nothing!
News Flash-Prayer vigil is cancelled tonight at the Ant’s house. The Ant’s fear that the protesers will attack them and there little group.
Those protester’s look like they just came from the Jerry Springer Show.
Hello mytwocents, I am happy to be on the same clean slate with you and everyone talked about. As far as Elaines comment, I personally do not see anything wrong with a tension breaker in these blogs. Especially when it is late in the evening like last night. We always manage to get back on topic and if the blogs become long as she states…there’s always another one around the corner, and we’ll even post a link. If elaine does not like when people take a tension break from this case she does not have to read it. I’m not trying to be insincere, just realistic about, my god we are all human in here.
mytwocents,
Why didn’t Elaine post her feelings in this room. There is not that much going with the case today, so what is wrong with exchanging a few personal things to one another?
gotta share the computer again…bbl guys
I can do both, talk about the case and i also enjoy talking about personal stuff, we all have it lol…i don’t take it as serious as some.. I go with the flow..lol… no news that I have heard, I do read alot of news… heres a story of interest lol
i heard this one the other day that amazed me… this father and son, got lost at sea ( not sure how) anyways they tread water for I believe 16 hours, the little boy is autistic. they also got seperated… the father kept yelling to the boy, BUZZ LIGHTYEAR TO INFINITY and then he would wait for the boy to respond, AND BEYOND he chanted this over and over to keep boy talking, until help arrived, do you believe 16 hours for gods sake, and guess how far apart they drifted ? one mile.. he said he got worried when he couldn’t hear him anymore… and then would hear him.. this to me is the most amazing miracle… both were ok when rescued i guess some hypothermia.. but i thought i could not tread water for 30 minutes and that would be it for me. and remember the boy was autistic…wow…
the power of a parents love for a child…
M should take notes…
pammy,
OMG Thank God they were rescued. I don’t think I could tread water for 30 minutes either. Miracles do happen don’t they.
brb
i teared up, lol ( i do that alot)..even on commercials lol i was amazed at that story… really amazed think how long 16 hours is. I am sure love is all that got them through it and sheer willpower to survive, I’m tearing up even typing about it…lol.. I am an avid news follower and read alot of good stories like this, alot of bad M stories too however….
i should re-prhase that NONE like M story ( she takes the cake) just other parents being imprisoned on killing their children, heinously…its all over america…in all walks of life… in every state… none like this one.. don’t know why this one is so unsolveable at the moment
I am sure that almost everybody knows a mother that lost a child at a young age(under 18).
Years later they cannot even talk about it without getting tears in their eyes.
One girl I worked with years ago, had a younger sister that committed suicide at 16(over a boyfriend). It happened some years ago, but her mom(a very lovely very sane lady who also worked there) still kept Kimmie’s room with everything in place, since her last day alive and cleaned it once a week. After I left that place 10 years later, she still maintained that room in her home. Her way of dealing with the loss.
I think a mother never ever get over losing a child, they just learn to live with it.
That is why we are so abhorred with the incredible callous behavior of M.
yes I agree i lost someone a year and a half ago, and cannot even really still talk about it, although it gets somewhat easier. ( Gods way of stepping in, when the grief is so unbearable)… and when I lose hope in human beings, its stories like that I heard make me know theres good in all people and evil in some. but the good outweigh the bad… I don’t know who she will have to answer to in the end. well I do. I think shes going to pay a hard price. although like elaine said i feel sometimes like maybe this could go unsolved…
snookers,,
I just could not imagine if anything ever happened to my children or grandchildren. The pain would be unbearable.
Does the Ants want us to start feeling sorry for them?
I don’t care if they like a prisoner in their own home….Its all a big act anyways with that family…Is G going to bet up a minor next week?
What I can’t figure out is how Monster could remain so calm in the AI?
Shoot, when Nancy Grace comes on I almost practically piss myself everytime I watch that show… I could never remain that calm if my daughter was missing…
I just wonder how she sleeps in her room, it was right next to Caylee’s.
Does she ever have a nightmare over what she did to Caylee? How is she able to maintaiin such composure, and how on earth can she wear that Caylee tee shirt?
she has to wear the t shirt to fake out the world.. and to tie it up in back to show her fanny off…you know she watches NG each night and I am sure hears all being said about her, I wonder how that feels to hear yourself discussed in such a bad way. while you listen nightly for 2 long months… like ” Im on tonight mom grab the popcorn” lets see what their saying now about me…and can’t you just see C & G cuddling her with an afghan, and saying don’t worry baby, you’ll be OK God how disgusting of a mental image I just wrote lol
The ants made their bed and now have to lay in it.
I do have emphaty for them but no sympathy.
I donot think M cares how she is talked about as long as she is talked about.
This blog is getting too long again. My puter is protesting
snookers, my cousin who lost her daughter at age 11, due to being hit by a car, also kept her daughter’s room exatctly the same for more than ten years. The bed even had an open book on it where Michelle was doing her homework, just before she was killed. It all stayed that way until my cousin moved from that home. This was due to a mother’s deep love for her child.
I’m sorry, but I just don’t feel sorry for the Ant’s. They have done nothing but bash the LE and Equusearch for trying to find Caylee. What have they done except hold vigils on their front lawn, tape their property lines, and ask for donations.
If M. is so afraid of her mother then her mother should be the one to get the truth out of her. Her comment to LE that her mother already told her she would not forgive her if anything happened to Caylee. Well, C. something did happen to your grandchild, your daughter murdered her, which you already know. You smelled the car and you spoke the words to 911. It is time to stop all the lies, and bring that baby home, so she can be laid to rest.
(repeating this here–posted in on an older, abandoned blog–it was getting kinda rusty!)
Hello gang! Are you guys still here? MMT? Concern for Caylee? Gumshoe? PICKLES?!?!? Catherine? Pammy? Mandi? et al …
I survived Hurricane Ike, as did my home! It’s pretty much like a 3rd world country “down here.” Finally got power but have had sketchy internet connections. My neighborhood is the only one in my town with power. Half of Houston is w/o power.
Heartbreaking destruction here, and I’m trying to help out wherever I can. I’m one of the lucky ones. My town lost 25% of all dwellings (which is 1,000 homes/condos).
Shortages of food supplies, gasoline, water, ice, etc. Strange environment. I’ve had little access to tv or internet. Kept up w/ Hurricane Ike through radio.
Missed you guys, and I’m way behind on this case. I’ve some catching up to do. Was certainly hoping either “what’s her name” would have been charged or they would have found precious Caylee by now. But it seems no one is searching. Is this true?
Catherine,
You just summed it up quite nicely. I agree 100%.
During monster’s interrogation, once they confronted her with all her lies, I wonder why they didn’t ask her if she didn’t work why would she need a nanny? Do you think it’s because they are trained to know when to stop and not give the suspect fuel to make up more lies. I’m sure they had all the evidence they needed to prove that she is a pathological liar.
And how about when she said something like… “That’s the story I want to stick to.”
That drives me crazy because the meaning of the word story in the dictionary is as follows:
“story” … “A fictitious tale, shorter and less elaborate than a novel.”
Wouldn’t BB be smart to meet with the DA and plea for a manslaughter charge if M. tells what she did with Caylee?
Does she really think BB is going to get her off. He could care less about M. he just wants book rights as payment for defending her. Just look at his record, his last murder case he lost. He not capable of defending M. What defense does he have? The thirty script Zenaida gave to M. at the park.
I admired those detectives for keeping their cool.
I would have taken her by the neck, threaten to strangle her unless she would tell where to find Caylee. Would never make a good detective.
CIT -
I AM SO GlAD you are alive and survived that terrible storm.
MMT -
My youngest child was also killed when hit by a car, i could relate to everything you said about what your cousin went through, my baby’s name is Michelle, she was 9 and a organ and cornea donor. She would have turned 24 this year.
Hello everyone, able to get back on again… I really believe something significant will happen this coming week. Just a very strong feeling.
Cj..so very sorry for your loss, that was a very considerate and noble thing for you to do with the organ donation. Especially during an emotional time, I give you a great amount of respect for that gesture of kindness.
mytwocents’s quote: (regarding Elaine’s post):
“Hi, All!
I’m taking the liberty of reposting a note that Elaine wrote earlier today because most of the folks on-line now weren’t on-line then.
Please don’t be offended. I read that many of you already thought of this and exchanged emails last night so you already have another way of talking about personal things. I don’t mind that. I think it’s great and you should do that and enjoy it. And then come back here to blog about Caylee whenever and however much you want. ”
I just now read this and apologize for posting the information about me having survived the hurricane. I guess that would definitely be considered off topic.
I also didn’t realize that mytwocents and elaine were appointed as rule-makers of Jan’s blogs, who has btw known for quite some time exactly what we discuss on her blog. My guess is that if SHE had a problem with it, she would have told us a long time ago. She’s not said anything as rude as these comments.
Perhaps she even likes it that she has followers who have become a close-knit group. Did either of you two ask her? Did YOU check with HER before setting down the rules for US?
I’ll leave my email address for my friends here: concern4caylee@gmail.com. I’ve missed you guys and value your friendship.
And yes, I am offended. But perhaps I have a different perspective, having just lived through a deadly hurricane that destroyed lives, communities, and towns.
The very idea of people being called out for “taking up space” (which doesn’t cost Jan or Elaine or mytwocents ANY cents) on a website by BEFRIENDING one another, when the only drawback is that SOME are required to skip posts, is absolutely absurd.
Sorry if my post seems harsh, but I just cannot understand why those complaining don’t just find another blog–one that better suits their needs, instead of changing what works for the majority.
can visit one of my sites if you’d like, i have several.
Catherine,
In a way , I hope there is no plea bargaining.
She might get more at a trial plus we get to see a trial.
thANkyou kiNDLY ((((Kris)))))
http://www.geocities.com/angelsofhearttoheart
Concerned…Very well said…Cudos!
snookers- I think monster is way too arrogant to plea bargain, doesn’t strike me the type , but I could be wrong.
I think with or without a body they will convict her, this is an extremely strong feeling I have, and I feel that because of the circus this whole case has become, the public will demand no less from authorities. They will want to make it end in the only way that will appease the public with justice.
OMG…. Concerned in Texas, we are so HAPPY to hear that you are fine and survived Ike. You are so kind to go and help those less fortunate than you who lost their homes and livelihood. Six years ago, I visited beautiful Houston while my son was living there.
Everyone was so friendly and kind. I can picture this community coming together and rebuilding. If there is an address that you know of, where I can make a donation, please let me know. I would be happy to do so. It’s not as great as you being there and helping but it’s a small part that I can play. With all this devastation on your mind, you still found time to worry about justice for Caylee. You are one terrific person!
CIT,
Glad you are ok.
You have no reason to apologize for anything.
The only rules on blogs is to use your arrow on the side and sroll past posts you donot like and subsequently should ignore.
Only an official moderator can come up with “rules”.
Each poster post by their own rules and there are as many rules as there are posters on a blog with no moderator.
Very nice site cj, just took a look. The pictures are beautiful, and memorial very befitting of a princess. You did a very wonderful job with that. Your little girl would be quite proud of her remembrance. Which makes me all the more bitter thinking on someone like monster….poor little Caylee so far cannot even have a memorial. I am so perplexed at how completely contrasting people are in this world with their thoughts, concern, and feelings about others. But I’m glad to see goodness in many first hand.
cj
so terribly sorry of your loss…
God is with you always..
he gives us strength to hold onto
concerned in texas
OMG glad your back and took the time to come back to find out about caylee… I watch the devastation down there, and you have more strength than I would.. welcome back…and hope things get better day by day
one personal comment..
from this chatting I do each night, ( first time ever really).. I noticed one common link to all of you and myself… alot of tough cookies in this chat room who keep on going and keep on going.. when it all seems so hard.. maybe thats what has drawn us here.. I don’t know, her name that drew us in together? caylee….
cj is just a normal mother like the rest of us.
Your site had me crying. Is that Ave Maria by Gounod?
cj
what a beautiful memorial… page
Concerned in Texas,
I’m so thankful that you survived that terrible storm. Our prayers are with all the people who were affected by Hurricane Ike.
MMT,
My heart breaks for your lost. I am so sorry.
cj,
Thank you for always making me smile. You are very real, my friend.
As for Elaine and her groupies, I have one thing to say, kiss my behind.
Thank you Kris for looking at my site, i have many angels there also in Michelle’s memory. So you got to also get a peek at my Angel daughter and myself, its been a long time and yet feels like yesterday too.
Pammyliz, you are sweet too, thank you.
Yes this case has me “shook up” to be sure…
I’m baaaaaaack!
C in TX!!! We have worried about you. So glad you are ok and back online!
Geraldo is on. Jesse interview is coming up in a few minutes.
cj and Kris – thanks.
MMT – how kind of an offer. I think the best would be the Red Cross. When they arrived in the Houston/Galveston area, they were millions short bc of so many recent disasters. Many are suffering, esp those who normally live paycheck to paycheck but don’t qualify for normal gov assistance. Many new homeless, I fear. Thanks again for the kind words.
The truth is that living through this made me feel the impact of what happened to Caylee even more. Seeing parents take steps to protect their children, taking care of their every need, etc. Just highlights what it is to BE a parent.
I think “IT” will go down in history as a true monster–the epitome of selfishness. And hopefully a lesson for all young women. We as a society need to examine what we value – the whole “celebrity” bs, which is what “IT” has played into.
gumshoe
thank you, its on here too only its 10 here, and i missed the whole jesse story
Hi, Concerned in Texas! Just got back on-line and I’m thrilled you are okay and so sorry to hear about the loss and damages in your area.
While you were gone we had a bit of a “hurricane” here so please try to withold judgement. There was a great deal of unpleasantness and personal attacks. Afterwards a number of us – for example me, Kris and Catherine – agreed to a clean slate and a fresh start.
I wasn’t on-line last night and when I got on this morning and read back I saw that a number of people had exchanged emails so they can personally communicate. When I saw Elaine’s post this morning I realized that’s what she was talking about but I knew that the exchange of emails happened on another article so she probably didn’t see it. And I knew that the people she was addressing weren’t online at the time. So I re-posted it later.
I thought Elaine’s message was showing that what they did was a great idea. I also thought that the point of exchanging emails was so the personal communication could be done that way.So basically I thought that Elaine’s post was reinforcing something that had already been agreed to and done by some folks here.
I didn’t know people would disagree with it or take offense and I didn’t intend any.
Hope everything improves fast where you are and that you can join us more often from now on.
Snookums, yes that is Ave Maria, my Michelle’s middle name is Marie and this song is so fitting, she loved to sing and had a beautiful voice..
Catherine, Thank you, so much..
I dont mean to take away from the blog or ignore this case, the contrary I CARE VERY DEEPLY.
pammyliz, the Geraldo show is sometimes repeated at 1:00 am in the morning (EST). See if there’s another airing later tonight.
Concerned in Texas… please don’t think for a moment that you can not comment on personal things on this blog. Sometimes we get complacent in our own little world. We needed to hear from you to bring us back to reality. We sit here in our arm chairs, while you on the other hand have experienced how beautiful lives can be changed overnight by a devastating storm. God bless those who have lost loved ones, their homes, their belongings and those too, like yourself, who were lucky to have everything stay intact, but are willing to go out and help those who were less fortunate.
no its on now, i jumped up and turned it on after i read your post lol.. its 10:25 here, and it says LIVE on my screen, so i am gonna see this jesse interview i hope cause i missed that whole thing just what you all said about it
Is tommorrow when they are airing something about this case on Dr Phil? I thought I read that somewhere…anyone know what time it is on Eastern time?
cj,
The memorial for your daughter is just beautiful. My eyes are still filled with tears.
pammyliz you may not have missed it. It is only a segment of Gerald’s show. It’s coming up now for me after a commercial. It’s not the whole show.
i have cable but i dont get the channel Geraldo is on, pls someone tell us what is said by Jesse, wish i could watch this show.
Anyone also know if there is a video of the interview somewhere on the internet?
cj, sweet sweet memorial. Your angel is precious.
awww shucks thanks Catherine,
so did you see my baby and me, her mama?
that was some oh lets see, it’s before we moved to our acreage so it was around 1991 when that pic was taken, i am a grandmama now
mytwocents,
I just want to thank you for understanding that our reasons for exchanging emails was to discuss things that don’t pertain to the Casey Anthony case. Some other people would be wise to take a lesson from you with regard to this matter.
Thank you Gunshoe!
You guys are all so sweet!
If any of you want to email me personally ever my email is there at the site too.
Pammyliz this was so BEATUIFULLY said by you:
“I noticed one common link to all of you and myself… a lot of tough cookies in this chat room who keep on going and keep on going.. when it all seems so hard.. maybe that’s what has drawn us here.. I know, her name that drew us in together…Caylee….
MNT
thanks! I’m listening now to jesse on geraldo, I had not seen him before, and so this is interesting
MNT
thanks! I’m listening now to jesse on geraldo, I had not seen him before, and so this is interesting
ok he confused me on the timeline he states the 24th and the car seat being gone, so hes saying what?
oh one other thing geos goes down when alot of traffic so it is only temporary,
you can go back later on, its a free site so i have to put up with their bandwidth rules, sigh.
i checked again to be sure but no i can’t get geraldo on my cable TV, but will wait and see what is said about Jesse being interviewed.
he said the casey he knew was a loving mom and not the person he sees today…the emotionless person. he said C is a control monster, and didn’t like him when he dated her… he said he will not believe caylee is dead until concrete proof.. he said he did take a lie detector test and passed it
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cj Please see my September 21st,9:31 pm post
You can watch the Geraldo interview right now!
Jesse Grund seems like such a nice guy. He says Cindy is accusing him of killing Caylee and putting the body in the trunk to frame Casey. And he’s so nice about it. Doesn’t even blame her.
How could he love a woman like Casey? What do all these guys see in her? Is sex and looks enough? Don’t these guys want a woman who cares about someone besides herself? Don’t they want a woman with normal emotions?
he also said she would never have sold caylee… in his opinion… all his opnions he said, he said he isn’t defending her, only being honest with the casey he knew…
he seemed nice, she also probably was fake with him, alot of women can turn the charm on a dime when it comes to a man, and also impress him with her motherhood skills…phoneys… i know alot of them… and remember shes standing there with groceries ready to cook, for tony.. i was confused at what he meant about the 24th tho???
Full Geraldo interview w/Jesse (paraphrased but very little):
Jesse says:
Casey now is not Casey he always knes. They had a friendship after their breakup in Nov.
She took on the persona of the person she was dating at the time. Would dye hair, assimilate, copy the guy she was with at the time.
June 16 call w/Casey?
Busiess as ussual w/Casey: needed place to live, wanted to move, complaining about her mother
Jesse took voluntary polygraph and law enforcement is satisfied with the results
Jesse: Casey I knew and was engaged to wouldn’t hurt Caylee. She was a doting, loving mother.
The emotionless individual I see now I don’t recognize. It’s not the same Casey any of us knew.
It is shocking to see her emotionlessbecause she makes all her decisions based on emotions, like dying her hair or changing styles to match her boyfriend.
caller: Is Cindy covering for Casey? Will you file suit against them for trying to frame you?
Jesse answer:
Cindy is very controlling. We never got along. She didn’t like it when I stepped into casey’s life. She stepped in and tried to control.
I have no idea about a coverup but I do believe they know more than they are telling.
The car was towed with the car seat in it on June 27. I still believe I heard Caylee in the background on the phone June 24.
Unless a body is produced I can’t say I believe she’s not on this earth anymore.
i did not hear the anthonys are trying to frame him, when did this come up?
pammy,
C. is trying to frame him.
sorry–didn’t read posts before I posted the interview.
I find it interesting he is back to his first story on the June 24 call where he originally said he heard Caylee in the background when casey told her to get off the table.
Then he recanted, said he may not have heard CAYLEE, but only figured Caylee was there because Casey told her to get off the table.
Now he is back to he believes he heard Caylee that day.
I think he still loves Casey and is defending her. Probably because he knows how controlling of her Cindy has been. And also because he doesn’t want her to go down for this.
I do NOT believe he thinks Caylee is alive.He is a big boy. And he was a cop. He knows what scientific evidence is.
Thank you Gumshoe. I had not heard the Jesse interview. One thing strikes me as so strange. Why on earth would Cindy “step in” between Jesse and monster and why would she not like him? Son of a minister, studying to be or already a cop, seems like a nice guy.
I wonder if C did not want Monster to find a steady guy/get married/move out? Was she so controlling that she’d resent that? After practically raising Caylee maybe she wanted to do everything she could to keep her – which would mean not letting monster go either.
Bad stuff going on in that house for a long time.
i had not heard of this, and why would she say this? what reason would she tie him to it??? I missed alot of this part the other night when something from the father or something was said
I saw Jesse on Geraldo on the Internet but I may not have seen the entire interview because I never heard him say Casey was a loving mother or that Cindy was controlling and didn’t like him. I also never heard him call her emotionless.
He said Cindy referred to herself as mommy to Caylee in front of Casey and himself. He said the Casey he knew would not deliberately hurt Caylee but that he didn’t see the side she is now showing. Geraldo asked him if he meant the partying side and he said yes. Jesse said he took a DNA test after Caylee was born and it said he was 100 per cent not the father. He said he had mixed emotions because he knew blood didn’t make a father and he wanted to step up to the plate. He said he watched her while Casey was working and he wanted to marry Casey and be a father to Caylee but she broke the engagement off in 2006. He said he hadn’t seen Caylee since December 2007.
He also said the Anthonys hadn’t been a close family so he was surprised when they all supported Casey. He said he suggested she give Caylee up for adoption because neither he nor she was ready to be a parent and she said no. He could be lying for her. He seemed to still love her the way he talked, although he said he “loved her” in past tense.
Gersldo said to Jesse “did yu hear the theory that Cindy Anthony has about you?”
Jesse says yes, then Geraldo says well Cindy is saying you killed Caylee and put her in Casey’s trunk. Jesse says, I would never hurt Caylee. The last time I saw Caylee was in December 2007.
MMT
there is no post for 9/21 at 9:31 PM i just scrolled back and checked???
i wonder why i dont show your post,
what did you say?
ALSO I AM VERY SORRY for your cousin and her loss, did see my post about this earlier too?
did not know he was a cop. and why would she possibly try to frame him in all the players? lol… I dont get it i missed something…doesn’t matter he polygraphed and passed. none of them have…
this blog is taking forever should we move now? cause its slow……
pammy,
I think she is going to say he was so in love with Casey, that when Casey introduced him to Tony Lazzaro he went crazy, and killed Caylee as a way to hurt Casey.
pammyliz – good question. But C could have chosen Jesse because he’s the only boyfriend of Monster’s that she knows. I don’t know that but I expect M did not take many home to meet her parents – especially after Jesse.
I don’t think he’s a cop anymore. He quit very recently I believe – which puts him back on the possibly involved? on some peoples’ lists.
I don’t know what to think.
‘night all!
ridiculous… no way, ain’t gonna fly
Cindy apparently doesn’t like Hispanics. Maybe that’s why most of Casey’s boyfriends were Hispanics and may be why she made up a Hispanic name for a nanny. Jesse said she referred to Zanny the Nanny but never said her name was Zenaida. The cops questioned him during the lie detector test asking if she ever mentioned Xanex which is referred to as nanny. He said she’d asked hin about it. So maybe she was giving Caylee Xanex to knock her out and the police are on to it.
Jesse said he won’t believe Caylee is dead until he sees a body. A prosecutor on Geraldo said the cops could be not charging Casey for murder because they fear without a body there would be reasonable doubt from the jury that Caylee was dead.
she can frame all she wants. she is the only person who knows. ( and family)… its just like a psycho to drag others into their horrid mess all these people mean nothing to this case in my opinion, its all about caylee and casey, mom and daughter…
Concerned about Caylee said,in September 21st, 2008 at 10:12 pm I saw Jesse on Geraldo on the Internet but I may not have seen the entire interview because I never heard him say Casey was a loving mother or that Cindy was controlling and didn’t like him. I also never heard him call her emotionless.
C a C , this tells me that it was a two-part interview. What’s online now must be the show last night. The show tonight will probably be added later. Because the part I copied and pasted here in this post was on tonight and the rest of your post above was NOT on tonight.
Now I have to go watch the video to get the whole thing! Thanks C a C!
Good Night, mytwocents
it would seem more likely to frame tony current guy then old flame..its always possible tony had involvement, which is sick to think she would protect him over hew own dead child ( saying if he had done something to caylee)… and then shes covering for him so bizzzare, i have to go to bed or I’ll pay the price tomorrow… night all. if you change blogs tonight please leave a link
THANKS SO MUCH Gumshoe,
you were sweet to go over the interview with me.
MMT I just checked again and there is no post at 9;31 PM, now i am wondering how many posts we may not see that others do see/ weird.
Night, Pammy
my pc is too slow and yes this blog is bogging,
PAMMYLIZ can you suggest a faster blog we can move to? (if someone hasnt already since i posted this) lol
goodnight all who have left,
this is a slow one i am gonna try and find a faster one and leave a number for you all, and we can go there, whatcha say?
PS, I cannot watch the interview on my pc its too old, this is a windows 95. lol
Jesse’s song;Love is blind(everly brothers)
anyone still here?
CJ still here
snookers how bout this one lol
casey = MONSTER MASH
Love than one cj.
BTW if you have windows 95 , you donot have to worry about virusses. They are being written now for mostly 2000xp and vista
still here—anyone found a new blog?
yep i am here and we need to find a faster blog wanna look?
I am gonna look for a new. It took forever to refresh/post.
how about Caylee still missing August 6 117101 88 comments
sounds excellent will go to
117101 straight away, thanks snookers!!
we moved to 117101
Cj, what a beautiful page that you created..
Brought tears to my eyes.
Can anyone leave a link? Or the name of the blog we’re in? Unable to find it.
hello oh where is everyone ?
I guess that if i drop a thought in here you are going to give me the same welcome you have in the past but i will try once more. Talked to tim from ES he says they sent in side scanning sonar to search and that is whats going on right now a ground search is of no use at this point, and he answered one other question that someone keeps asking about the car seat, LE has it. I will wait and see just how nasty you are to me this time before i come back.
Try 117101 for the new blog
Been over to that blog not very interesting though.
Yeah Michael you have to be careful when you make comments with the above people around.
Hi, Michael! Do you know if someone is still currently searching? If I understand correctly what side scan sonar is (I’ve seen it on Nat Geo being used to scour the ocean floor, for example, looking for shipwrecks) that would mean the search is under water. Does side scan work only in deep water? Or can it work in a couple of feet of water? I know Tim of ES said a while back that a ground search wasn’t feasible because so much of what was ground when the child disappeared is now covered in water. But I imagined that to be 6″ to 1 to 2 feet of water.
And thank you for clearing up the car seat question. To me “no car + no car seat = no more Caylee.” So sad.
(To me right now anyway!)
Does anyone know if Lake Underhill has been searched? That place has been mentioned a couple of times.
Kristina Chester, M’s former friend, said she and her kids and M and Caylee walked around it somewhere between June 12 and 14. Quite close to the last day anyone saw her (June 15 or 16).
Its going to be real hard to find Caylee… We are talking about a small frame body that would decomposes completely in a month…. Think of it like a med size animal..
It doesn’t take long…
And if her mom doesn’t want to tell us where she put the body then going out everyday to search is like trying to find a needle..etc etc.
If I here one more person say that the spotted a 3year with brown hair and big eyes, I’m going to scream…
People have we forgotten the evidence in this case…. The FBI doesn’t discriminate. It follows order and does the workup…
I’m sure people are holding on to “HOPE” But think of it this way…. Caylee own mother doesn’t want to help find her….So ask yourself, WHY?
Hi, alliethinks!
I understand your point of view.
What’s a little scary to me, though, is that in spite of the decomp “evidence” LE is still following up on tips of sightings of a live little girl.
Why would they do that? Two reasons that I can think of:
(1) LE is not ready to formally announce absolutely positively that the child is dead for reasons associated with how the prosecution wants to charge her and present its case
OR (2) because the evidence is not that definite and LE does not want to give the defense the chance to accuse them of not looking for a live child.
Thank you mtc its obvious to me that its # 2
This whole time C&G have been talking and showing there ass in the media telling people that Caylee is out there…
But thats it! They haven’t proven any hard evidence that Caylee is ALIVE…
Give me something that shows me she is 6 feet above ground, cause I’ll I see is probable doubt…
If Laci Peterson body never surface we would still be talking about her?….WE would be Right?
BUt, if we never found her body, would we be thinking that she just left and started a new life somewheres else without her family?
I guess my argument is that if it….
Walks like a duck
Quacks like a duck
Most be a duck…..Right…
So I do believe that LE are checking lends for the sack of discrediting the defense team…
Retract:
If Laci Petersons body never surface, we wouldn’t be here talking about her..Would we?
alliethinks, Yes I do too. It may come down to a forensics duel, you know? With the defense getting the jury all confused about air samples and hair bands and stains and DNA etc. That’s the only thing I can think of for the defense to attack and Baez just hired a very high profile scientist as a consultant (one of the regulars on the NG show in fact).
So if the defense can attack that evidence AND at the same time say that LE never bothered to look for a live little girl then they could hope for reasonable doubt.
So I’m hoping LE is chipping away at all the possible “reasons” to doubt.
The best thing to hope for is irrefutable DNA (as in remains) AND a direct connection to monster. That’s another avenue defense could take – “Somebody else did it!” I think Cindy has already accused Jesse Grund of killing the child.
And when I think about it all of M’s friends have said what a great mom she was. So defense could spin it that sure M is a pathological liar but the behavior toward her daughter -witnessed by everyone – was terrific. Hence M could not have done her harm.
LE really needs something to lock it down.
I’m talking in circles here…LOL My spelling is off…
I just keep remaining people that just because we don’t have a body, doesn’t mean that there is no crime…
And nobody can tell me that everything that has been said by Monster sounds logical.
Monster makes sense when she called 911 for her parents. Thats logic…We all can hear the differents in her way of thinking….( send police) But I the AI it doesn’t make sense. Not one bit.. Its the dog chasing its tail excuse..
Jesse Grunds took and passed a Lie detector…
I had a bad feeling about the Scientist from the very get on…He just gave me that vibe…Another one that danced around the facts..
Personally he is just that: a high profile scientist. He should be discredit just for the sake of monetary personal gain.
I hear what your saying MTC….
I’ve always stick up for your theorys on this case…
You honestly can see both side of the story…
I might just be one sided LOL
But no matter, Monster could have been a good mom, but good moms go bad! Just ask the ones behind bars….
alliethinks: My theory is that M did it either intentionally or by accident. To many of us it’s pretty clear. But once it gets to court it’s a whole different ball game. It’s one thing to believe it and another thing to prove it without reasonable doubt.
What I’m trying to do now is imagine the trial. Imagine what the defense is going to try to do (like accuse others; challenge the science and question whether the child is even dead; criticize LE’s investigation, try to show what a great mom Monster was etc.)
I’m sure that’s what LE is trying to anticipate too.
So that might be why LE has not brought the “murder type” charge yet. They’re trying to build a rock solid case that BoBo will have a great deal of trouble defending.
Yeah your right MTC…
I guess we all should move forward with all of this….And start thinking about the trial..
So let me ask you something…
Are all the charges againest monster on one court date? Or are they seperate dates?
Oh, I fully agree with you about the “good mom” thing. She might well have been a good mom most of the time right up until it was not convenient anymore. We’ve heard that she played different roles depending on who she was with and what the circumstances were, you know? What I was referring to before is that early on most of her friends were saying they’d only observed her as a good mom and could not imagine her hurting Caylee and you bet BoBo is going to use those statements if he can. But we know M can change her ways on a dime.
For example, I don’t think Susan Smith was ever accused of child neglect or being a bad mom UNTIL she killed both of her sons because they were getting in the way of her being with a new beau who said he wasn’t ready for a “family” yet.
alliethinks: I don’t know how they will try all these different charges. I imagine the economic crimes will be tried separately from the others.
The big question is will they go thru with child neglect/lying to police before charging her with any kind of murder. Some of us have thought that they might not because it’s possible that the evidence of child neglect might be a large part of the evidence for murder and we don’t know if the same evidence can be used at trials for two different charges.
Seems to me that they could go ahead with a trial for the check fraud, get her locked up for at least a year or two (hopefully!) and then they’d have a bit more time to put together child neglect/murder etc while she’s behind bars.
I see, Well, Can they put forth the check fraud charges before the neglect concidering the the neglect charges were first?
Truely, I’ve never personally been through the court system…I’m not sure how all this works out to our ( the state ) benefit.
I think the state could go for a trial on the economic charges whenever they want to. It doesn’t depend on what crimes she was charged with first. But there are some “judicial system” procedures like how long the defense will ask to have to prepare and stuff like that. So it’s up in the air for now. I don’t know enough about the intricacies of the judicial system – especially in Florida to know.
If the states wants Monster back in jail, can the state put presure for a speedy trial?
Am I sounding stupid? DOn’t answer that question.LOL
Monster is only interested in saving her own ass…
If someone else hurt or killed Caylee, Monster would have already turn them over to authorities….
Think about it…She couldn’t wait to call for police when protestor were at her door….
The thing to think about is who she talked with after she covered up Caylee body…..(Cause we all saw the pics of her going out getting shitty at the club)… maybe its just her family that knows now, but there could be that one person that she confided in before the LE were involved.
Yes I think the police are trying to talk with everyone whose phone number shows up on M’s phone records.
Did you all just hear that the transcripts of her text messaging!!!
Just caught it on HLN.
Hi, Everyone! Many bloggers are now over on another article if you want to join them.
It’s called Caylee Anthony’s Mother’s Bond Set at $500,000
July 23 Article number 116861
Just go to the browser bar and replace the number following bloggernews.net/ then hit enter. It will take you right there.
I’m going to come back here now and again tonight and tomorrow and check to see if I hear from some people who posted here earlier and who may not want to move to the other article. I asked them a couple of questions.
Caylee is still alive. Their is no doubt about it. We just need to get her whore mom to speak up.
Caylee is still alive. Their is no doubt about it. We just need to get her whore mom to speak up.
Hello everyone.
Is there a new thread or is everyone here?
Good ideas printed here.
Hi from South Africa.
Just tried to see the MyFox web cam outside the Anthony’s house, but the picture is blank.
Has this webcam been removed or switched off?
summer skye: Sometimes the web cam is off. Check it again later.
Also we are continuing to blog under an older article. If you would like to join us please go to the July 23 article called Caylee Anthony’s Mother’s Bond Set at $500,000
(Article number 116861)
One way to do that is: Go to your browser bar and replace the number following bloggernews.net/ with 116861 and then hit enter. It will take you right there so scroll down for latest comments.
Another way is to go to home page of bloggernews.net and click on the calendar for July 23. The title of the article should appear on a list. Click on that and we’re blogging at the end.
Let me know if you have any problems. I will check back here once in a while to see if I can help.
Ummmm . . . I’m confused as to why there are two threads including the same people making the same comments. I decided to use this one but I honestly don’t know why. Should I be on the other thread? Anyway . . .
As I was reading through your comments I saw one that expressed the opinion that Crazy-Casey might just get away with this murder. I hate to say it but I’m also having the same discouraging thought. I understand that the police will want to handle all of the evidence with great care so they don’t blow it and Crazy walks away with some charges of forged cheques. BUT . . . it’s been three months now and she still hasn’t been charged.
I’ve heard that in order to charge someone with murder they must have at least one of three things. 1) a body 2) a weapon and 3) a crime scene. Since (as far as we know) they don’t seem to have even one of the three requirements does that mean they can’t make a case out of one of Caylee’s hairs discovered in the trunk – apparently they can tell that it came from a dead body and they know that it matches Caylee’s hair. Surely that is more than just circumstantial evidence??!!?
Something else that puzzles me is the interview I just watched with Crazy’s ex-boyfriend. He seems like an honest and upstanding young man and he states that until now Crazy has been a wonderful mother and has always put Caylee first in her life. I believed him because he also said the Crazy he knew and dated was very different from the Crazy we see now. And the huge amount of photos I’ve seen backs up what he’s saying. The little girl looked very cared for, loved and happy. Everyone seemed normal and sane in all of the shots. So, how the hell does a person go from THAT to THIS????
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