According to Fox 35 a source close to the Caylee Anthony case are claiming that ‘significant levels’ of chloroform was found in Casey Anthony’s car, mother of little Caylee.
The sources are also saying that a computer which was confiscated from the Anthony home shows that someone had done some research on chloroform looking for information about it and how it is used. If inhaled chloroform depresses the central nervous system causing dizziness, fatigue and unconsciousness like when a doctor uses it on a patient preparing them for a simple surgery.
Today new charges were brought against Casey. Two additional charges each of uttering a forged check, petit theft and fraudulent use of personal identification. Orange County Sheriff’s office says that Casey used a friend’s checkbook to buy items at Target and Winn Dixie and to write a check for cash in July.
Wftv.com is reporting this afternoon that late Wednesday afternoon a cadaver dog alerted searchers on an area where they were searching for Caylee just south of the Orlando Airport. It is near the same place that they have been searching looking for her body.
Investigators were called out to the area but they told reporters that they didn’t think it was likely to have anything to do with Caylee’s case but they called the investigators out there anyway just to be sure.
Eyewitness news is reporting that one of Orlando’s most prominent defense attorney’s, Mark Nejame has been called in about the case but he hasn’t decided it he will take the case or not. It was reported that George and Cindy Anthony met with Nejame at his office late this afternoon. Now I might not be the smartest person in the world but that sounds to me like someone is getting a little nervous.
Nejame claims that the Anthony’s only contacted him for advice and was not asking him to represent them or Casey. He said they only questioned him about the case related to Caylee and not anything about Casey. He wouldn’t disclose what advice he gave them.
“To be going through the loss of their granddaughter, their daughter in jail, it’s a lot. And then, nobody’s trained for this sort of thing, nobody’s trained. They’re regular, hard-working, good people and now their daughter in jail, their granddaughter missing, the media’s at their door every minute,” He told Eye witness news after his meeting with the Anthony’s.
The president of the Central Florida Association of Criminal Defense Attorneys, Richard Hornsby said, “If Mark would take over the Anthony case, it would be a great benefit from both the media and legal standpoint, because you know the right decision would be made,” said Hornsby.
Hornsby says that he believes that the Anthony case is so big now that it takes more than just one attorney to handle it. “If Mark’s firm were to be taking over, it would be like a team as opposed to a sole practitioner, which quite frankly this case needs,” he said.
Tim Miller was considering pulling out and calling off the searches Wednesday. Last night on CNN’s Nancy Grace Show he avoided saying directly that the Anthony’s were not cooperating with them in their search. This morning he told reporters that they have not been cooperating with him. They only had 30 volunteers show up this morning and Miller thinks it is because people are losing faith in the Anthony family. He said in fact he also is losing his faith in them and that is why he is considering pulling out. He says he is upset that Cindy Anthony keeps there is evidence that Caylee is alive and was given to a friend. If that is the case he wonders why she called and asked for his help and asked for his help. “If that is the truth, that she gave this child to a family to take care of Caylee, I’m upset because we have spent $28,000 for this case and we’re getting calls from all over the country that want our service that has a legitimate missing child,” he said to Eyewitness News.
Last night on the Nancy Grace Show, Bounty Hunter Leonard Padilla said, “When the FBI, who has got some of the finest labs in the world, comes back with their DNA, it’s going to shock the world over something that Lee, Casey and Cindy have known since Wednesday when they released their preliminary findings. And also the dumpster a mile and a quarter down from the boyfriend Tony’s house is going to play a big part in this.”
Padilla now believes that little Caylee is dead but thinks maybe it was due to an accident. He also thinks Cindy Anthony is in denial.
The more I hear about this story the more I think this is all a huge cover-up by the whole Anthony family. I know a lot of people out there feel sorry for the Anthony’s. I once did myself, but how can one honestly feel sorry for someone that screams to the public to get their asses out there and find her granddaughter. Cindy was going out searching after Casey was sent back to jail but how come she didn’t go out when Casey was at home?
Another thing that really bugs me is a statement Cindy Anthony said on the cameras when she was asked had she discussed with Casey after she got home about where Caylee might be. She stated that she hadn’t asked her daughter anything because she did not want to upset her. Duh! I thought that before Casey was bailed out that they all said they needed her out of jail so she could help them find Caylee. Now this is my opinion but I think they wanted her out of jail so they could all sit down and get their stories straight about what to tell the cops.
One thing that sticks in my head though was when Padilla said that Lee, Casey and Cindy were told something that would shock the world, how come he didn’t mention George’s name? Is he not included in this now? Cindy Anthony seems to make sure she is caught in front of the cameras again now that Casey is back in jail. She has lied over and over to the media and now she wonders why they think of her as they do. Cindy lies to the police just as much as Casey does.
I do have my own theory about all of this but I am sure not everyone would agree with me. I do not think the Anthony’s actually did anything to their granddaughter to hurt her in anyway. I do however think that Casey did something. Maybe not directly but if she didn’t do it herself I think she allowed someone else to. Perhaps she was too high to care. I think once she came down enough and she realized Caylee was dead she abandoned her car, notified her father who told her he would take care of it. This could be the reason she can keep such a blank look on her face when they ask her where her daughter is. Maybe she doesn’t know. Maybe her father took care of the body, after all George Anthony is an ex police officer. Who else would know better how to hide a body or cover up evidence in a homicide case?
I am not saying this as a fact. I, like thousands of others am just trying to put the pieces to this puzzle together. If we wait for the truth to come out from the Anthony’s, I am afraid we will have a long wait.
Jan Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackRemember in the 400 pg. report release Casey’s friend Amy said how the child would sleep through the partys that they had. Amy went on to say how Caylee was asleep on the couch and woke one time and stared at Amy then went back to sleep. Based on that and the current news of chloroform, It may be that Casey was using this on the child to keep her passed out while she partied. Possible the Grandmother as well, she is a nurse and may have access to chloroform. This case is getting more distrubing by the day.
I just thought of an interesting fact! And maybe this should be brought to the attention of the authorities down there too. Remember the case of Paul Bernardo and Karla Homolka? Karla worked in a vet clinic and was told by Paul to confiscate some of the chloroform to use on Karla’s sister and they wound up killing her in the end of the sick sexcapade. When the cops arrived there they made up a pack of lies about how the sister was not breathing and drank too much, but the cops could not understand the burn marks showing up around her mouth and lips. Evidently the rag they used the chemical on did this.
So if the authorities in Casey’s case get a memory jog of this case with Bernardo couldn’t they investigate to see wether or not anyone ever noticed any peculiar marks on Caylee’s face around her mouth area? It could help prove the sedation theory and also that she had been doing it ongoing for quite some time. I think someone down there should mention this post to them.
Wow! I think you might have something with George. I believe that Casey killed her daughter because she was in the way of her partying. When you put the fact that traces of chloroform were found in her car and then searches on her computer, there is only one conclusion. It sounds like the parents have made excuses for her her entire life. She is a spoiled brat and the parents have no one to blame but themselves. I am tired of the mom criticizing the media for not going out and finding Caylee when she says she has information about her whereabouts but can’t share it. It is just one lie after another with these people. I just hope they find little Caylee soon and put the whole family away!
I think little caylee is dead which is b.s. A innocent little girl. the chloroform being in the car only leaves me bad toughts I am just so upset this case has been bugging me I just wishing she would talk
Yanno Jan, I’m with ya on on this one.At first I felt sorry for the family but the longer this goes on the more I begin to question their motives. Don’t get me wrong, as grandparents I feel for the Anthony’s but other than that I cannot say. As for the Casey bit,I’ve been thinking the same thing too regarding her possibly not really knowing what happened to Caylee….but again,this has gone on for so long I don’t know anymore.
I just pray that they find Little Caylee’s body and bring her home so that she can be treated with the respect and dignity that she so deserves.
Where did Casey sleep for the 30 days leading up to her disclosure of Caylee being missing
Mom goes partying, gives Caylee chloroform to knock her out in the backseat of the car, gets drunk, passes out, doesn’t wake up until noon the next day, Caylee’s been stuck in the car in the Florida heat and dies. Ooops. Throw her in the trunk. Get rid of her so she doesn’t get in trouble. They will find out the truth - Casey’s lies are starting to unravel all around her and she’ll pay for this.
The Sheriff’s Dept. has repeatedly stated that George and Cindy had nothing to do with the crime and have been very cooperative. Inasmuch as they wish they or George had control over Cindy’s mouth, they don’t. Has anyone thought this may actually be a drug ring intent on tearing up the community, destroying confidence in the local police, and last but not least, destroying a family?
Trace, I was thinking of the same thing. Amy talked about the baby sleeping through the parties. My daughter wouldn’t have stayed put on the couch at two years old with a party going on around her! And we only have to wonder where Caylee was “sleeping” when Casey didn’t bring her.
This is just too far gone for me to even begin to contemplate that thought. I think there is way more yet to come from this family and come out in the wash. I also still think the covering for each other may have something to do possibly with Caylee being a product of incest within the family. Someone mentioned that early on and it could explain the mysterious missing father that noone can pinpoint. It just keeps getting more and more macabre every day with this case.
The police could also be saying that the parents are in the clear and cooperative, but secretly building a case of accomplice to murder against them behind their backs. I have too many in law enforcement in my family to know that they can come up with some elaborate smokescreens and red herrings when trying to not lead on the suspects or public as to certain things they are doing behind the scenes. And also you got to think they will be exceptionally careful given the fact that George is an ex homocide detective, because he is accutely aware of things happening. So to tell the family that they are in the clear and being helpful is not what it may really seem to be.
Reasonablevoice:
You must be kidding. Drug rings are too busy selling drugs to engineer some sort of smear campaign against a community. And George and Cindy HAVE NOT been cooperative. They do not participate in local searches, they destroyed evidence by washing Casey’s jeans, which smelled “like someone had died”, they tried to run off Equusearch, which is searching for a body, they promised to work with the bond man, then refused to speak with him, the list goes on and on.
jan I am with you. I think George knows what happened. I also thought it was odd given the Anthony public displays of rage that Casey never joined on the act while she was home. I mean that would have been the icing to have Casey angrily shouting at America to go find Caylee.
My view is that Caysee killed the little angel and the parents, did the disposition of the body. This makes caysee and the parents (incl brother) culpable. Both parties know that the other party is guilty of a crime, hence the lies and major cover up. By Cindy trying moving the search parties to Mexico, Texas and Puerto rico is shifting the resources away from actually finding caylee near their home.They are all guilty and their day will come soon
Kris:
I am praying you are right. Thanks for your insight.
How might I be exposed to chloroform?
Drinking water or beverages made using water containing chloroform.
Breathing indoor or outdoor air containing it, especially in the workplace.
Eating food that contains it.
Skin contact with chloroform or water that contains it, such as in swimming pools.
The anthony’s have a swimming pool, could it all lead back to her drowning in the pool???
There will be no chloroform in a pool, so that lie will not fly if the Anthony’s try to make the public bite that one. It would be used strictly inhaled as an anesthetic that I know of unless used for illegal purposes like in a meth lab to make drugs.
Well I pulled that Q&A from the internet when reading about Chloroform, it says it is in swimming pool water…..
I guess I was just hoping this was all one big accident that got out of hand instead of a innocent little girl being killed by the hands of her own mother
Not high levels as to what they found in the trunk. They said it was straight chloroform, and Casey’s computer had a search done on it that police found researching chloroform.
The drug ring doesn’t have to engineer a smear campaign Miss Jenny; the media does that for them for free. All they have to do is provide the shock factor, the rest just snowballs.
If I’m correct, then a grain of truth the size of a mustard seed would grow to the size of a stone just large enough to bring Goliath to the ground.
I still think they should look into the post I mentioned above the (Bernardo case) with the chloroform leaving a burn like mark on the lips and mouth. Casey’s friends did say that when Caylee would be out with her at partys that she would be extremely lethargic and sleep through just about anything. I think the authorities should ask the friends if they ever seen any suspicious marks around her mouth area. (my post above).
Kris, you make a valid point. Those people were sadomasochists. However, if Casey did this at a party in front of a lot of people then that says something about the company she keeps don’t you think. Amy seemed to express that it kinda bothered her that a small child was present when they were drinking at a party.
Yes, you do Kris but RV I doubt she would do it in front of everyone but rather right before she walks in (probably kept it in the trunk)? Would be interesting to find out if everytime monster arrived with Caylee, was she carrying a sleeping Caylee. I’m with Amy, and seeing the photos of those parties, it would bother me a great deal if she were present at THOSE parties and I would hope it would bother anyone.
Why would she use chloroform to sedate the child when a little liquor would do the same?
Hey Kriss just noticed you posted that same about the Bernardo case on Brians Dreams
Besides, little two year olds are like spinning tops, the go, go, and go as hard as they can then they just zonk out. Most parties don’t start until late anyway.
If it is found, as rumored and speculated, that Casey was a drug user it is unlikely that she could have been involved on a level that dealers would steal her child without some sort of ransom. It’s Florida, they are a bit busy for rearing children. Any speculation that drug dealers would take the time to keep a toddler alive under this level of scrutiny is preposterous. The child is likely dead either way, accident or not the responsibility for the safety of the child was with the mother.
Reasonablevoice:
Great job deflecting the point of my post, which was not to talk about the media, but to address Cindy and George’s total lack of cooperation. In fact, Cindy uses the same tactic–that is, replying to every question she is asked by deflecting to an unrelated topic. Did you not address my point because you think Cindy and George ARE cooperating?
as a grandmother of a beautiful 33mo old who is with us 90% of the time due to son being in prison and mom very young/naive, our granddaughter comes first. yes, we love our son and would die for him, but,….granddaughter would come first as she needs support, love, structure. as much as we love our son, we would never cover for him (his is bi-polar and has issues, non-dangerous kind, but they are there. cindy and george and lee need to practice what they preach, that their main goal is to get caylee back. instead they (mostly cindy) are hindering, procrastinating, and are also narcystic. casey will be found out soon and so will everyone else involved. the thoughts that run through everyone emotionally involved in this case are heart-wrenching and tim miller/crew, police are doing all they can with limited information. casey and family say they love their daughter/granddaughter and that she was given to a family….then go get her. they are all guilty of something, if it looks like a duck, walks like a duck, smells like a duck…. then ……..great theories here and wonderful posts. it is nice to know that little caylee has unconditional love from complete strangers.
Ummmm…maybe because you can smell liquor? I hardly think RV that even monster’s friends would condone giving liquor to a 3 yr. old.
To address your point Miss Jenny, all I know is that I heard a statement from the police department stating they were cooperating. What they tell the police and what they tell reporters may be two different things. I think Cindy may have exhausted Eccusearch because she firmly believes Caylee is alive. Tim Miller knows what it is like to have a daughter kidnapped and murdered; he got no help whatsoever from his local police when his daughter went missing. Cindy Anthony is a puzzle to everyone and probably always has been; that doesn’t make her guilty of a crime…at least not yet. She says and does things and may not realize her affect within the situation. They really are handling this on their own with no experience whatsoever and considering the time line they originally gave, well….good grief! I don’t understand why she didn’t let George handle it since he does have police experience. Perhaps she is just a natural control freak…who knows?
JMS, you make a valid point though I really don’t know much about the drug business or any subsidiary they may operate.
Reasonablevoice:
I agree, Cindy probably believes Caylee is alive. That’s what makes all of this so, so sad. She has believed what Casey has said for years and everything Casey says is a lie. That’s why I simply can not understand why Cindy would believe Casey this time. It just doesn’t make sense, don’t you agree?
By the way the scent that the cadaver dogs picked up on toda was a dead animal.
And, Mandi, you would have to have the child drink the liquor. Even if she could get her to drink it sometimes Casey needed more of a sure thing so her partying wouldn’t be interrupted. I had a heck of a time getting my daughter to take liquid tylenol at that age.
I guess that just goes to prove that cadaver dogs aren’t 100% reliable on picking up Decomposition.
I would not be surprised if Casey killed Caylee out of insane jealousy. Inside that family, Caylee probably got a lot of attention, love and presents, more than Casey and too much for narcissistic Casey to handle. Casey appears to be that kind of a sick individual.
The parents are definitely covering up for their daughter, I think, and donot see their daughter for what she really is.
I suspect Jose Baez cringes everytime Cindy opens her mouth in public. Maybe he wants out, hence they are looking for another pro bono lawyer.
jenny said:
“She has believed what Casey has said for years why Cindy would believe Casey this time”
An abundance of la-la land jibberish here. Are you people for real??????????
Well,Jenny, Casey probably does have some problems which is why she may have gotten pregnant and has had so many boyfriends. Usually these type of people hang out with others that make them feel like family, often getting into drinking and such. But, most of her friends firmly believe she wouldn’t have harmed Casey. I think if she did do this then it is because of what snookers said in a previous post.
Reasonablevoice:
I agree.
Crimefighter:
The point I was trying to make was that Cindy was clueless all those years Casey was lying. Now there’s documented evidence Casey had no job and had no babysitter. THAT’S why I can’t understand why Cindy believe her now.
chloroform is also used in making meth
I went back and looked at Casey’s emails to her friends. In one email she talked about a white party at Fusian. A white party is another name for a meth or cocaine party. Since, Casey is no dummy, she knew how the meth labs use chloroform when they make drugs. We all know she is a thief, so she probably either stole a bottle or paid for it with the money she stole from Amy. She then went online to find out how to sedate Caylee with the chloroform, so she could leave her in the car and party the night away. The police stated that they found abnormal amounts of chloroform in Caseys car. They also said there is other evidence to come out very soon.
Leonard Padilla was on Nancy Grace and implied that there is a dumpster that is close to Tony’s apartment that will play a role in the case. I personally think they found something like a towel or rag with chloloform in that dumpster with Caylee’s DNA on it, or worse found Caylee in a plastic bag. The police cn idenify the location at the land fill area where the dumpster was taken. In Florida the land fills are dumped in date piles.
The Anthonys’s are already shopping for a new defense attorney for Casey. I happened to know that law firm will not work pro bono, they are a top notch firm with big hourly rates. Jose Baez knows he can’t win this case because the evidence is mounting by the minute. On top of that he can’t keep Cindy’s mouth shut which is an attorneys nightmare. Lee seems to be the only one that might get through to Casey to just tell the truth.
I will pray that Caylee is brought home and laid to rest.
May there be justice for Caylee, and may she rest in the loving arms of Jesus.
It is also possible to detect chloroform when chlorine (swimming pool) comes in contact with bodily fluids…sweat,urine,etc..
Kris,
Just wanted to let you know that I had it out with Mrs. C last week. She memtioned you, and said how narrow minded you were, so I let her have it. I haven’t seen her since, have you?
I really do think it is Cindy.
I saw her a couple of days ago Catherine
No.
Chloroform is used to sedate.
Dakduke,
Was she in rare form?
Actually chloroform as many uses. It is even used in pesticide,
She just popped in mad e acouple of statements and left.
Dakduke,
What do you thnk of the chloroform found in Casey’s car?
Not sure. I think it depends on what comes out about the searches on the computer.
I’ll tell you the truth if they didn’t say that there were searches about it and that I have read that it is used as a dilution and for extractions and that a lot of forensics labs use it I would almost guess it could have been an error on their part.
LOL She is really making a fool of herself. It was funny in the beginning, but then she became annoying with her ranting. She attacked everyone who had a different opinion about the case. This is an open forum for adults to discuss this sad story of a missing child that most likely dead.
Very true.
Whose part, the FBI? It was in the carpet of the car. Do you think the FBI put it therre?
I’m not sure it was just a thought on it.
The FBI would not have put chloroform in the carpet of casey’s car. It is used for extracting DNA.
The FBI is a well respected lab. This is not the O.J. case, or the LAPD lab.
Time will tell, and in the end we sadly are going to have a dead chld to cry over.
I know I said it was just a thought.
The simplest answer is usually the correct answer.
why are people trying to come up with these huge stories.
Most people cant take a tragedy at face value. they have to come up with some far fetched story to explain why such things happened. 9/11 was a good example. all of these conspiracy theories to explain how two towers came down. in some people’s minds its easier to deal with tragedy if their is some amazing story behind it.
The simplest answer to this case point blank: Casey either purposly or accidently killed Caylee and got rid of the body.
Quit trying to come up with a story about drug dealers. When you come up with stories like that…you kind of start sounding like Cindy Anthony. Remember how cindy always has some ready made excuse for everything or comes up with the most outlandish stories? Besides, most of the time when something happens to a child, the parents have something to do with it. Not saying that is always the case but sometimes it is.
By the way…dont you think it is funny how cindy anthony is getting all of these tips….but somehow nobody is calling the police with the tips? If i had a tip…i would not call Cindy! Either Cindy is lying about these tips…or a lot of sick people are screwing with her.
cj, Are you educated with chloroform. I have read up alitle, nut I am no expert.
I am curious about yur thoughts regarding this matter.
Catherine I was just doing some research and that was where I found out about it used as an extraction. Was trying to find out how CAsey could have gotten hold chloroform especially anythign full strenght you just can’t buy it
Richard,
I agree with you. sometimes things are just black and white.
As far as calling Cindy with a tip, she would be the last person I would call. I would comtact the police.
Richard-spot on. From the first lie that came through Caseys lips it pointed right back at her.
Its sad, I hope the team does what they need to do to prove beyond a shadow if a doubt.
I believe they are being very careful to not make mistakes- like faulty cadeaver dogs and fumbling forensics that would mistake their own chemicals for the suspects. LOL.
It is interesting to read the wild stories. How I wish they could be true and not the horrific truth.
Dakduke,
I looked it up online and you can purchase it by the liter for about $ 75.00.
Really
And where did you find that info, because as far as I know its against the law to sell or buy.
Dakduke,
I just searched Chloroform direct, and up came some sites where you can purchase it.
As I said, I didn’t know that much about it, so I read up on it, and searched to see if it was available for purchase.
Dakduke,
You should know that everything is available for a price.
Yeah but still I don’t think she would go through all that trouble.
Oh, I disagree with that That girl would go to hell and back for something that she wanted.
I agree, Richard. I can see why one might have speculated a number of things….during the FIRST FEW DAYS it was being reported. But now there has been way too much proof she has lied over and over. As for Cindy and George, I can also under stand how as Caseys parents they could have not believed it was even possible for her to hide anything preventing le from searching for Caylee. But now it has been too long, too many lies, zero emotion, and recorded conversations of Casey and family where Casey shows her thoughts, her heart, her narcissism….!! As a Mom, I cant imagine being falsely accused from jail and even using one second of my calls defending myself at all or asking why mom and dad only cared about my daughter and not me…from a psychological standpoint…that last one is scary considering caylee was missing. Personally if the entire family was together and going about business as usual I think its in the least selfish and narcississtic. Considering that Caylee was missing for 30 DAYS or more doesnt that give you atleast a strong suspision that it was not only Casey harming Caylee but that it was on purpose?
It was on her laptop.
Catherine do you live in Florida
CJ, Totally agree.
Dakduke,
You know I do. i told you that before.
Dakduke,
So do you right?
Sorry I lose track of people. Well any way this isn’t related to the case but I think we floridians have a nother possible hurrican on the horizon (Ike), lookinglike he is heading towards Florida.
Dakduke,
I’m actually thinking about joining up with the Equusearch party to look for Caylee.
Good I think you would be a big help.
I thought he was heading for Georgia.
That one is Hanna
Feel like joining in on the search?
Unfortunately I can’t I have 2 kids to watch in the daytime while my wif works.
Oh your right, that is Hanna.
My only hesitation is I don’t want to be there if she is found. It would break my heart, and stay with me forever
Yes, Catherine. I am educated as far as a google search for chloroform. lol. I have been reading these post for some time..following the story..heartbreaking. This is just the first time I posted. I own an arts/crafts boutique store and have recently been involved with so many chemicals, ingredients and for each one there have been uses I never dreamed of for creating different things. So I googled it and posted.. But I was reading somewhere how bloggers had used investigative tools to narrow down the FACTS in a case. I normally try to stay away from news etc…so depressing. I just feel drawn to this.. Unless there is something they are not saying yet and there may be..it seems there is no progress. In my opinion, a large amount of this is from the grandparents. I dont think they are guilty of anything. But I do believe they are in denial maybe. And if they would consider the “possibility” Casey is lieing I bet there is something they could tell law enforcement that would bring justice for Caylee.
If things would havw gone as planned I would have already been back in that area, but am having a hard time finding a place we can afford.
I know what you mean
CJ,
Very interesting, I own a design firm in Florida, but I don’t really do crafts. Wish
i had the time, but I am too busy drawing houses.
I think Cindy will totally lose it, and end up in a mental ward. I am a mother, and I know I would just want to die if something like that happened to me. That part of me feels sad for her, even though she drives me crazy.
I believe but am not certain that you can buy chloroform. But it seems as if there is a license or a reason…such as a vet example…everything is “available” for purchase. If you were going to start a company that manufactured icecream you would find manufacturers of different ingredients easily. But in chemicals of a more serious nature..your company has to have certain licensing and possibly even employee people with certain credentials…if that makes sense. I believe chloroform may be one of those chemicals.
Cybersleuth..crazy question…but have you ever posted with that username in other missing person cases..that you can remember lol?
I think the Equusearch team will find her. The police have donated $ 5000.00, plames, and airboats.
Equusearch said, they are going to stay even if they have to dig up every land fill, and drain every lake.
Well, I need to get my beauty rest. Good night all.
catherine- yes I feel same way as far as searching. I do not live in Florida. And as much as I love the beach I am glad considering they are asking for help and I live hours away. As far as art..I feel the same way..too busy with business side of it.
now CHLORFORM in trunk??? used to get caylee out of the country??? a young mother carrying her sleeping child on a plane to Peurto Rico???
I strongly feel that Caylee was on the plane to peurto rico with caseys friends. I believe caseys friends agreed to help but things didn’t go as planned because there is alot of evidence surrounding the airport…casey was threatened if she told the media her family and caylee would be harmed…maybe casey wasn’t spending her friends money…maybe she was spending money from selling her child to someone in another country…her own friends delivering the child…cell phone pings putting casey in that area…her car was abandoned near the airport…friends traveling out of the country…I have 2 kids in college and they couldn’t afford to go to a neighboring state much less out of the country on school break…they panicked and had to stop the money trail so chose to accuse casey of stealing money that was actually partial payment to casey for her child…her friends panicked but I believe Caylee is alive…Peurto Rico is known for the baby market. She also had a friend who wanted to adopt Caylee but Cindy said no…the friend told casey she had the money to adopt her and was devestated when casey backed out because she couldn’t have children of her own…shortly after that her friend left the country to work on a cruise ship???
Cj
No I have never posted on anything relating to another missing persons case. I don’t usually post but this case really hooked me from the beginning. I did post once on another sight about this case.
There have just been so many things that are puzzling about this case, not Casey because I think her behaivor is textbook. But everything else. I admit that at the beginning I thought that Casey had only been involved indirectly like an accident or neglect- and panicked. But now I think her actions were more sinister. I guess the human part of me couldn’t fathom intentionally harming the child when she could have just left her with her parents and partied her heart out.
It seems like George and cindy were more than willing to take over the care of their grandchild if necessary.
There are a few things I am waiting to hear about. Like the missing cell records, the jail phone call to tony, forensics from shovel, etc.
wow cs..these are all great to pay attention to. love the facts.
I strongly feel that Caylee was on the plane to peurto rico with caseys friends. I believe caseys friends agreed to help but things didn’t go as planned because there is alot of evidence surrounding the airport…
(WHAT WERE CASEYS FRIENDS HELPING HER WITH IF THEY WERE ON A PLANE TO PUERTO RICO WITH HER CHILD?)
casey was threatened if she told the media her family and caylee would be harmed…(WHY WOULD SHE TELL THE MEDIA? WHY WOULDN’T SHE TELL THE POLICE AND TELL THEM THE TRUTH?
maybe casey wasn’t spending her friends money…maybe she was spending money from selling her child to someone in another country (THEN WHY DID SHE WRITE OUT AND CASH CHECKS THAT WERE SUPPOSEDLY HER FRIENDS WHO SHE BORROWED THE CAR FROM?)
…her own friends delivering the child…cell phone pings putting casey in that area…her car was abandoned near the airport…friends traveling out of the country…I have 2 kids in college and they couldn’t afford to go to a neighboring state much less out of the country on school break…they panicked and had to stop the money trail so chose to accuse casey of stealing money that was actually partial payment to casey for her child…her friends panicked but I believe Caylee is alive…Peurto Rico is known for the baby market. She also had a friend who wanted to adopt Caylee but Cindy said no…the friend told casey she had the money to adopt her and was devestated when casey backed out because she couldn’t have children of her own…shortly after that her friend left the country to work on a cruise ship???
IF CASEY AND CAYLEE LIVED WITH HER PARENTS THEN WHY WERE CASEY AND CAYLEE GONE FOR OVER A MONTH?)
why don’t Casey’s parents go after these so called friends of hers since according to them the police are doing nothing to look for Caylee? I sure as heck wouldn’t be waiting at home. I’d be looking for those friends any my grandbaby.
sorry previous post was in reference to breezesblue…
I believe that possibly Casey used CHLORFORM to put the little girl out while she went partying and then she gave her too much and she died. Maybe she was using it routinely so she could go party.
Hi from South Africa
Just been reading the info in the following SOS Phychic Search team site:
http://www.briansdreams.com/gale/cayleeanthony2.htm
Quite facinating.
The latest decomp hit was made by cadaver dogs that belong to a psychic who is searching. So as they say, “Don’t blame the dog. Blame the owner.” Besides the dogs did find decomp - it just wasn’t human.
I believe the police have interviewed all of Casey’s friends. Certainly the one(s) who went to Puerto Rico. Also it’s pretty easy to tell if a 3 year old child was on the same plane, isn’t it? And who the child was traveling with? Have to buy a seat for them at that age I believe. So I think those leads just didn’t pan out.
I think it’s funny (in a sick way, of course) that the police have donated $5,000 of drug forfeiture money to the search. I’m surprised that Cindy hasn’t asked for some of it since part of it probably belonged to Casey!
I was just remembering the beginning of all this. The 911 calls. Casey tried to talk her mother out of reporting Caylee missing by saying she’d take her mother to her the next day. It had been up to 30 days that Casey KNEW her daughter was missing but when her mother called 911 and the operator asked to speak to her Casey can be heard saying “Why do they want to talk to me?” She was stone cold from day one. And no info on park or so-called “script” or anything. And during one of the first jail house calls she says about the police “All they care about is finding Caylee.”
Self-centered to the nth and cold to the core.
Everybody’s bashing George right now. Maybe he deserves it I don’t know. But I understand that he wanted a divorce some years ago and also that he and Casey did not get along. Both of those things are to his credit! And imagine living with Control Queen Cindy all these years! My gosh!
as sloppy as Casey has been up to now with all her lies, leading police on wild goose chases, and leaving evidence of a dead body in the trunk of her car, I am wondering why it has been so difficult to find Caylee’s body. She’s not that smart; maybe her Dad (being an ex-cop) knew the perfect, untraceable way to dispose of the body. And now you don’t see or hear from him too much; Cindy is telling him to stay out of the limelight and keep his mouth shut. The family believes that if no body is found, the chance of Casey being prosecuted for murder is unlikely; that’s why they are so persistent that Caylee is still alive and is probably in another state. Cindy is almost manic about this. She knows she has lost her granddaughter, but she thinks that now at least she can have her daughter back (to have another kid for her to raise).
Also, this is sick, but I think there’s a possibility that George could be the father of Caylee; wasn’t there talk of a separation and divorce between Cindy and George after Caylee was born?
Did they ever ask Casey why she borrowed the shovel from the neighbor?
saw that chloroform causes miscarriages. Led me to wonder if Casey is actually pregnant and that’s what forced her to get rid of child number 1, before child number 2 comes along to ruin her fun.
When I heard about the supposed talk of divorce around the time Caylee was born I thought it could be because George would have liked to have the baby given up for adoption - especially since he had to know his daughter was a sicko/psycho at that point. But Control Queen Cindy is and always has been in charge of that household. And she insisted on keeping the child no matter what anyone thought. Casey’s friends even said that Cindy was the one who wanted to keep the child.
someone metioned that they read Casey emails to friend…where did you find those?? thanks
George & Cindy Anthony have/had careers where both took an oath. If one of them (well we already know Cindy tampered with evidence when she washed those clothes from Casey’s car) helped cover up Caylee’s disappearence, then they too should be charged and soon. From the moment Cindy Anthoy called 9-1-1 and related about the “odor” in the car it was she that started the ball rolling and the ball just keeps on. It is interesting to see this case unfolding on a daily basis with the likes of “she said, he did, no one know”. What a fiasco! It’s going to take a dream team defense to defend Casey Anthony, better hire 3 more attorneys.
This case has jsut broken my heart. I enjoyed reading everyone take on the case. I really don’t know what to think, there are so many theories that sound logical. The thing that gets me is from the beginning when Cindy A. called 911 a said “it smells like theres been a dead body in the damn car.” This statement leads me to think Casey told her what happened and her initial reaction was to call the police because she was mad and devastated that her daughter did whatever she did to little Caylee but spoiled Casey got them to cover for her and have been doing so ever since. I think they all know Caylee is dead but came up with a story that is just not adding up to cover Casey ass. But on the other hand, I think maybe the family doesnt know a thing just like the rest of us and is just in denial. I mean who wouldnt be, it’s their daughter and I can see where Cindy would kind of try her hardest not to believe it until a body is found. I definetely think Casey was very spoiled over the potentil attention Caylee got so instead of leaving her with her parents while she went out she used the CHLORFORM to sedate Caylee while she went out partying. Perhaps she used too much or used it too often that it killed Caylee????
I meant very jealous over the attention Caylee got, not spoiled!
This is a terrible thought but if the body was left for aligators, the body will never be found.
IF Cindy Anthony doesnt know anything, I can see where she would be in denial. I would be too :o/
Cindy washed clothing in car did George clean car with clorofoam to get rid of evidence?
or maybe Casey and boyfriend Tony tried to get rid of evidence
Y George? The search about cloroform was found on Casey’s computer. Maybe Casey cleaned out the car to get rid of the evidence. They did say a an unusual amount was found. Can cloroform be used for something like that?
so car was found close to a dumpster casey called dad because she ran out of gas. supposedly dad said he would take of the car.
i understand that cloroform helps get rid of or minimize dna.
wonderinwhy: you may be wonderinwhy because you aren’t up to date on the story. The Anthony’s received a registered letter from the tow truck company which was supposedly the first time they’d heard that the car had been towed. (The car is owned by Cindy and/or George but driven by Casey) And that was the night Cindy called 911 and said it smelled like a dead body.
Has anyone read exactly when Cindy washed the clothes from the car? Before or after she called 911? Supposedly George cleaned out the trunk (throwing out a white plastic bag) but was that when they picked up the car or later?
Does anyone know if chloroform is used in the movie American Psycho, the movie Casey’s myspace page claimed she was watching, along with the quote “everybody lies, everyvbody dies”?
mytwocents,
I read somewhere that George took the bag/other stuff out of the trunk at the tow trunk company yard. Possibly , the police retrieve it but are keeping that info close to their chest. The dumpster next to where the car was left by Casey, surely must have been emptied one or more times before the police got involved.
I think that the grandparents were crazy about Caylee(much to the chagrin of “me me first” Casey) and Casey used Caylee to punish her parents whenever she got p*ssed off at them.
Antisocial Casey obviously has serious mental problems. Amazing that her mom as an RN did not recognize them.I donot think that George or Cindy did anything sinister, they are just trying to save their daughter from a long jail time, many a parent would, and are very close to their breaking point. Not Casey though, nerves like steel, she is not wired like an average compassionate human.
WonderingWhy - that is exactly what I was thinking. They say that you can find chloroform in hospitals - maybe Cindy had access being a nurse.
Chloroform??? WTF? There can’t possibly be a reasonable explanation for this! Everyday, the findings just get worse. This really needs to come to an end - lock her up and throw away the key. There is no rehabilitation for this monster. Rest in Peace, Caylee - We’ll meet you at the end of life’s last day………
This really hurts my heart, to know that this family will most likely never get the proper closure they need to move beyond this tragedy. So many questions unanswered - only one person who knows what truly happened.
This just is not right……..
I bet she used that chloroform to knock her daughter out in the trunk of the car while she tramped around! And one day, did her in!!! Could it be possible that Zanny the Nanny is actually “Chloroform”?
I googled chloroform this morning and it is very very easy to buy over the internet. If Casey did buy some, the police will be able to track that purchase from her computer.
The Grandmother, Cindy Anthony is a nurse, she would have access to chloroform, as well as, knowledge of it. Even possible Casey stole it from where Cindy works. I stick by my frist post to begin with. Casey was using this to put the child into a “knocked-out” state so she could party, even knocking her out with chloroform and leaving her sleeping in the trunk while she went to the boyfriends house and spent the evenings either going to clubs or sleeping over his house. If you live in florida I beg you to help Equusearch to find this child’s body and help to convict Casey Anthony for her role in this childs death. The only way to insure that she will be convicted is to find caylee’s body and allow her to rest in peace.
Hi Debinsc: I would think so.. in fact, the information would be stored on her computer. I wonder just what kind of nurse her mother cindy is?
Does anyone watch Nancy Grace?
Last night, on her show, she had a caller call-in from Florida, by the name of Nancy.
This woman sounded A LOT like Cindy Anthony!!
Here are the transcripts from her show that aired 9/4/08 @ 5pm Live
NANCY, FLORIDA RESIDENT: Hi, how are you?
GRACE: I`m good, dear. What`s your question?
NANCY: Actually, I have two quick questions.
GRACE: OK.
NANCY: I would like to know why Casey is being portrayed as the victim when it`s actually Caylee who`s the victim. Also, I thought that I had heard Cindy was a nurse. And if this was true, could she have had something to do with obtaining the chloroform?
GRACE: Does she have something to do with what?
NANCY: Obtaining the chloroform.
GRACE: Obtaining the chloroform.
OK, first of all, don`t — Nancy in Florida, stay right there. Who is portraying Casey Anthony as a victim?
NANCY: Well, it just seems to me that, you know, because she`s in protective custody and she continually lies one upon the other, the family, of course, is going to stand by her side, but Leonard Padilla and the Equusearch people and just many, many people just seem to be wanting to protect her.
She must be in danger, I`m sure, because of the threats, but I think the focus needs to be taken more off of her and.
GRACE: You know, Nancy, I think you`re right.
The arguments portrayed in this dialogue are the same arguments that Cindy Anthony portrays every chance she gets in front of the camera. Now here she is - trying to disguise her her voice ( keyword = trying )
I don’t know - maybe its just me - and this crazy case is taking its tole on me…..cray-zz
I do remember that conversation. However, I was most intrigued that Leonard Padillia said that he talks to Lee all the time.
Which tells me that Lee is trying to distance himself from his family in order to find the truth. He maybe the only sincere one in the bunch!
George and the tow truck guy threw the bag out while it was still at the tow yard. They were trying to figure out what the horrible smell was.
I agree with Richard. The obvious is usually what is true. Occam’s razor. The best prosecution in this case is to stick with the obvious facts, they paint a clear picture of what happened. Those who wish to defend Casey and the likes of her always come up with convoluted, conspiracy theories to explain away the obvious. It is a clear pattern used by all who practice deception. They try to create as much doubt around smokescreens and clouded issues as they can. It’s a well-known tactic to divert people from truth. Sad.
“If you clutter the truth with enough of what’s false, no one can tell what is real,” Dr. Schurman-Kauflin, criminal profiler.
This is what Cindy Anthony’s goal is.
Amy - I agree with you. I believe Lee is trying to distance himself from the “family” in order to obtain the truth. But I just fear that Casey is so upside down in her head, that we will never get the truth.
I believe cindy cleaned out the car after casey had been taken in for questioning or even after she was charged. I remember seeing on the news she made it sound like the police did not instruct her to not tamper with the car and it was in the driveway where they couldve gotten anything the wanted from it. Could be true, the police may not have been in top of the fact the car could have evidence in the trunk those first couple days. In fact the car was still at the anthony when the dogs hit on it. Which from memory was a day or so after casey arrest.
Rose/Amy
I dont think Lee is “distancing himself from family in order to obtain the truth”. Lee may be hiding cause he could be Cay”Lee’s” father. Notice how this all started after fathers day? How grandparents almost split up right finding out about pregnancy? How casey didn’t want to have the baby? How the real daddy is a mystery?
Just a thought i wanted to share…
Chloroform you can make…you don’t have to buy or get from a hospital. I think it was used to cover up or minimize any DNA evidence.
Just because you see chloroform for sale on the internet, does not mean that the average person can buy it. The chemical company selling it, as regulated by law, will thoroughly vet you, I believe.The chemical does have industrial/lab use so it would be easier for Casey(or her friends) to steal it somewhere. Am not into drugs so donot know if it is just another popular sniffing chemical.
callmecrazy - good point. I didn’t even think of it that way. Boy does that make the “plot” thicker……sik-o’s
This really does seem like a plot from a lifetime movie - but its not. And the sensationalism that stems from the media is repulsive. I just wish her body is recovered and she will be shown a beautiful departure from this world, as she deserves.
Especially since there was a significant amount found. I think she/they were majorly trying to get rid of any evidence.
desertrose,
Plot is way too complicated for average lifetime movie with their very predictable endings. More like the BBC mystery series like inspector Morse or Lynley.
cybersleuth,
Wow, major screw up on the car by the police. However, they thought they had a kidnapping on their hands, not a murder. Donot think Cindy cleaned the car with the purpose of eliminating evidence. Ditto for George. Leaving the car seat in the car might point to the fact that Caylee was dead already. Still puzzled why Casey left her purse though, purses normally have make up etc and she is obsessed with her looks, I think. Also puzzled why the towing company did not call the police if it reaked like a dead body unless that was only evident when opening the trunk.
what dates was info on computer for Chloroform research done?
dates of chloroform research were not disclosed. Not sure if that is even retrievable from hard drive.
touché snookers - way too complicated!
Chloroform has been banned as a consumer product in the United States since 1976.
Snookers - regarding your question about dates/times being retrievable from the hard drive - I believe all that info is encrypted into the drive…..she can’t lie about that one!
snookers,
Good point about the purse. that has puzzled me too. mabey she was going to try and act like the car had been stolen with purse in it? afterall she had to smell the stench. probably why she tried to cover it up with pizza.I agree if the tow truck driver smelled it too, he should of called police immediatly. I dont think any of us has a sick enough mind to really figure out why that psycho does what she does.
She can lie about it, and Cindy will lie about it, and they will have some cockamamie story as to why the dates are wrong, just like they do everything else.
At first i thought cindy was making excuses because she was in denial. but as time passes im certain she’s in on the cover up. her and georges lastest comments on the evidence of decomp coming from somebody else’s dead body just blew my mind! wow… imagine the chances of another dead body being in that car! these people are all nuts.I hope they find little Caylee and give her a proper burial. but at this point the family probably won’t except that either
1. “Zanny” the nanny could be Xanax, to keep the baby sleeping while Casey partied. Then later Casey discoverd chloroform.
2. Caylee talked about “the puppy” at the babysitter’s, per Cindy, but never about Zanny herself. Who’s puppy???
3. When Casey abandoned the car why did she leave her purse in it? She called boyfriend and he picked her up, and she told him that George would get/fix the car but a girl still needs her purse.
4. How did Casey connect a real live ZFG with Apartment #10 Sawgrass? She must have seen an application to look at the unit made out by ZFG. But whatever she saw, Casey did not know ZFG did NOT actually live there.
5. Casey did not carry the decomposing squishy stinky gooey body of a 30# dead child anywhere to dispose of it. She DROVE her car to wherever, and hefted the “package” out of the trunk into the dumpster/hole/?. But I will bet the remains are within 2′ of where the car could go. The body is NOT off the trail deep in the woods. She would not want to touch “it” anymore than need be.
Poor little baby.
Oh,my that Cindy woman. Released a statement blasting Tim Miller. Tim Miller, like Marc Klaas and John Walsh, are kind of untouchables in the public opinion. Not smart to negatively criticize them. Should bring more volunteer searchers out of the woodwork. Guess what Cindy , Equusearch has already a much better turn out today, your recent comments are probably partially responsible for that.
You just wonder about Jose Baez. He must feel like Zenaida Gonzalez. Why me, why did Casey e pick my name out of all the lawyers available. Guess what Jose, you name is latino sounding and Casey knows Mom does not like Latinos.
snookers
I have to agree that at that point I don’t think cindy realized that she was doing anything wrong by washing out the car. If she did, I believe she would have not admitted to it. I think casey left her purse because at that time I think she had a different ” plan” and hoped the car/purse/evidence would be stolen. I done think she planned on it being towed. I do think the interview from a tow truck driver that first spotted the abandoned car and did notice a slight smell but the business hadn’t gotten approval from corporate to tow it , I think another driver ended up picking up the car a few days later. I need to go back and reread, its hard to keep the timeline/ facts straight when we are discovering things out of order.
cybersleuth,
I wonder if we are crediting Casey with too much intelligence. The purse thing analysis would require some long term planning. She is more a (very experienced)fictional story teller after the facts.She made up too many other stories/lies that were easy to debunk. It did ,however, buy her time. She appears to have an intelligent criminal brain, devoid of very few emotions. I donot think she will crack and maintain her story or slighly change it to accommadate hard evidence.
Where’s the best place to park a smelly car?
Next to a dumpster. Passersby will think it’s the trash can not the car. Pretty smart really.
And/or Casey hoped the car would be stolen. Maybe that’s why she left her purse in it so it would be more believable.
Sadly I think Casey put Caylee in that dumpster and hoped the car would be stolen therefore losing the connection - I think she would have reported something else right away if the body had been discovered from that dumpster but since it was she decided to let it go and made up the nanny story to bide more time.
If only the Anthonys had played tough live and reported that car stolen from the day casey took off for ” business trip” in it without permission maybe she would have been caught red handed.
Dakdude: get your facts straight……the dogs didn’t hit on the animal, searchers found the decaying animal….NOT the dogs!
it’s easy to make assumptions of the chloroform and etc. BUT…..put ALL the facts of this case together (not just one fact at a time) and it’s difficult to see how one can NOT see the whole picture!
Maybe LE should be asking George and Cindy why there would be CF in the trunk? Perhaps its a known secret in law inforcement that is does indeed cover DNA , ( cause Cindy we watch TV too, ) and we know that bleach won’t..
Breezesblue: sounds like a reasonable theory but go back to all the facts, beginning on the cadaver dogs hitting decomposition in the yard and trunk of Casey’s car. THAT is compelling evidence no matter how else we paint the picture.
mytwocentsworth: George should have stepped up to the plate (as a man) years ago and maybe Caylee would still be alive today. Come on…..he’s an ex cop for pete’s sake. It’s not like he doesn’t know how to deal with “tough” people. He should have left cindy years ago……then he might not be involved with the whole mess (and be a suspicious party himself.)
Snookers: cover for your child when your grandchild is missing and your child was the last one to see her alive????????????? That’s what makes the parents as nuts as she is…..WHY ON EARTH would you cover for your child if you KNOW that SHE HAD SOMETHING to do with her disappearance whether it was intentional or not?????????
honestly, i’m pretty sure Lee, Casey’s brother, is Caylee’s father…
i read that on the DNA test of the hair found in Casey’s car showed Casey’s DNA… and it also showed the other half of Caylee’s DNA, or her father’s DNA, was identical…
it’s been reported that Lee has said that he and Casey are very close… closer to each other than with any other family member.
… it’s awful and disgusting, i know… but it would definitely explain a lot about that family… and the fact casey lied about the father dying in a car crash, and now won’t talk about who the father actually is…
casey is a compulsive liar and obviously something is mentally wrong with her… something is probably wrong with cindy mentally… lee is creepy and weird… and george is too distant.
cybersleuth: what if she left the purse in the car hoping that someone would see the purse……try to “steal” the car or something and then she could claim whomever stole the car…..killed Caylee?????? Or in a hurry, she forgot it (she had her hands full of groceries when her boyfriend picked her up) and she was in an awful hurry to get out of there……later she realized she forgot the purse but couldn’t make herself go back to get it??????
Snookers: dates are retrievable from the hard drive of a computer when searches are done. that’s just something the police are keeping under their hats!
Is it true that Casey might get out of jail again as soon as tomorrow? Did anyone else hear that?
interesting points today from our blog team…….wish we were all able to be there in florida to help search for Caylee!
haven’t heard that……someone would have to put up the original bond amount of $50,000.00 in order for her to get out again (since it was rescinded). The family did come up with the $300 for the new charges but she can not bond out without the original being paid too. I could be wrong but I believe that is what was said on the Nancy Grace show. Yeah…..I DO WATCH HER SHOW.
I saw a different clip (other than the first clip I saw)of where the protesters were having an altercation with Cindy. One lady, Ms. Gonzales, made the statement that it was a well known fact that Casey was into Ecstasy. If it were a well known fact, then why hadn’t we heard that before? And, if it were a well known fact,why was she attending the vigils if she thought Casey had already killed Caylee?
watched Nancy Grace tonight and am sick on my stomach; some weaselhead is bailing Casey out of jail and wants to remain anonymous! This individual believes Casey’s constitutional rights have been grossly violated! I wish to God that the searchers would find Caylee’s body so they could charge Casey with murder; right now the “expert lawyers” on the show don’t believe the police have enough evidence to charge her. And what about Cindy and George hiring a “criminal defense” lawyer to represent them, not Casey! Why would they need a criminal defense lawyer to help them with the media? Things are getting so out of control, I am getting sicker by the minute! The whole family is psychotic and deranged!
(I’ll be glad when the political conventions are over, so Greta van Sustern will be back on. She seems to have the best coverage and she doesn’t berate her guests like NGrace does.)
NGrace did say that her producer was able to purchase chloroform over the internet in about 10 minutes! I wish I could go down to FL to help with the search! If I see Casey one more time with that “Help find Caylee” shirt on, I will throw up.
I believe more and more that Cindy and George knew all along that Casey did something bad to Caylee. I think Casey has her parents wrapped around her little finger and is holding something over their heads. I think Cindy and George are afraid to stand up to Casey as they have always bee