Jan, again a wonderful blog. I share all of your feelings and thoughts.

I just hope the DNA evidence comes back and she is arrested for murder and she goes back to jail and Padilla, the publicity hungry bounty hunter, goes back to California.

I’ve had enough of Padilla’s stupid remarks just to hear himself talk on TV. I hope Nancy Grace and Fox stop talking to him. All he does is blow smoke out his nose. He is as disgusting as the Anthonys and their attorney.

Casey is not going to talk and lead anyone to Caylee. We may never know what happened to her.

Concerned: Thanks I don’t think Casey is going to talk either. She has been quiet all this time so why talk now.

ChynnaDoll: I agree but I do believe now that she is home, they are able to discuss how they are going to be able to get away with this. I only hope this isn’t an inside coverup because of George being an ex-deputy. Sometimes they do tend to take care of their own.

Does anyome know what George (the retired deputy sheriff) and Cindy (former nurse) does to earn a living?

As far as I know, Cindy is still a nurse but George is retired and doesn’t work.(I could be wrong though)

The only way Casey will crack is if things don’t go her way at home. Cindy and George are doing everything to make Casey happy right now and she is loving the attention she is getting without having to share the spotlight with Caylee.

I read that Cindy is no longer in the nursing field. How are these people paying their bills,
especially the $ 45, 000.00 in credit card charges from Casey.

Cindy said Casey picked Jose Baez to represent her. Maybe that’s because he is known for representing baby killers. Ironically Baez was 40 minutes late to the sentencing of one of the baby killers he represents because he was escorting Casey home from jail yesterday.

Here’s the link to that story: http://www.orlandosentinel.com/news/local/crime/orl-manslaughter2208aug22,0,2712596.story

One of Casey’s phone calls on June 16th was to her mother at work, so Cindy had to have been working somewhere. I just don’t know where.

Jenny: Cindy and George are like puppets on strings when it comes to Casey. She knows just how to control them both. I sincerely doubt she will talk even if they do find Caylee. She will never take the blame and her parents will stand by her

MsGurl I am with you on your comment

Dakduke,
How are you this evening. Any aka tonight?

The police in Florida are not going to tell Jose anything about the results of the DNA results until there ready to seat a grand jury to charge her Casey with homicide.

LOL

Any other blogs interesting?

Why does the BH keep saying drop Caylee off at a drug store and you will receive the reward money. Every night he says the exact same thing. Is this some kind of code to someone?

I pray for justice! The odds are the monster did the unthinkable. I hope they charge her with murder and lock her up for life without the possibility of parole. Then no one but herself will care what she says or doesn’y say.

I would love to be a fly on the wall at that church

Just finished watching Greta VS. She said a source told her today that Casey stole money from her grandmother’s savings account that was being used to take care of her disabled grandfather who is in a nursing home. When the grandmother confronted her, she told her she borrowed it until Universal Studios paid her, then she would pay her grandmother back. The source also told Greta that Casey denied being pregnant until right before she had the baby and that the mother (Cindy) backed her daughter up until the end. How weird is that?

I may go back to my theory that she may have sold her child. She certainly always needed money.

Again, that blows the DNA evidence.

No you never do know. So many lies it is difficult to untangle the web of lies.

I just think it is so bizarre that as Casey got bigger and bigger and Cindy’s family and friends kept saying she was pregnant that Cindy would say, “oh no, she’s not pregnant” until D-day. What do you think that says about Cindy’s mental health?

True I do like her better than Nancy Grace.

Dakduke,

What does that mean “you need to consider the source”?

Everyone is out to make up stories about Casey, and make her look bad.

No, she did not name the source. She just said it was someone from “deep inside the investigation” and seemed to think the source who contacted her was credible.

Catherine, I wanted to answer some of your questions…
I read that Cindy is still in the nursing profession but works for some independent company. George had just started a job in security a couple weeks before he last saw Caylee the morning of June 16th. Right now I’m not sure if they both took a family leave or what but it sure doesn’t look like they’re working.

As far as the $45,000 in credit card debt that Casey caused… maybe that’s why Cindy filed
bankruptcy… to get away from that debt.

As far as the house going in to foreclosure I hadn’t heard anything about that, but it doesn’t surprise me.

I think she left the baby in the car or drugged her to make her sleep (or both) or that Caylee drowned in the swimming pool. Then she went into a big cover-up mode. While I think Casey is a very sick girl, I don’t think she would kill her own daughter on purpose. She does seem to have a really nasty temper, so if Caylee was whining I guess she could have shook her to death?

Sorry to blog and run, but I have an early day tomorrow.

Concerned about Caylee, thanks for posting that link regarding the other “baby killer” case that Jose Baez is representing. I read it and it totally discused me what Jose said about the poor mother who lost her child by the hands of her boyfriend.

Jose criticized the poor mom as being “cold” and said she “couldn’t even bring herself to cry” during her telephone testimony.

OMG… How about his emotionless client Casey.
Defense attorney’s are always throwing spit-wads from the other side of the fence though.

Oh if I were Casey I would shop around for another lawyer. I’m glad he lost the case his client was guilty.

Dang… I meant Knew… not new. LOL

That never came out.

Thanks for all the updates. I also saw the latest bombshell about Casey stealing money from her grandmother. Unbelievable. But now we know why she was so hesitant to admit she didn’t work at Universal.

That same source said NONE of Casey’s friends have ever believed that Caylee’s father is dead. (and I suppose none of the fine-standing potential fathers ever demanded to know if the child belonged to any of them). I guess they can’t add.

OK, here’s a thought…
Here’s why I think she won’t get away with it. Her parents will cover up anything for her. BUT this time how can they? Casey finally got herself in a mess that they can’t get her out of because they can’t give her an alibi. Casey wasn’t living there.

And the friends she was staying with have all come forward, making sworn statements that are quite negative about Casey (stealing from Amy, and Tony saying Casey never mentioned Caylee was missing, and Clint doing that interview with Greta, etc.). None of her friends will lie for her like her family will.

In my opinion, this is why Casey isn’t talking. Usually she can come up with grand lies but not this time. Because it’s her friends who must lie to back her up.

And they won’t. This time, she will face the music. I truly believe it.

Question to the universe…

While Cindy and George are baking cookies and coddling Casey as she “adjusts” to the experience of having spent 30+ days behind bars, simultaneously raising funds to “search for Caylee” (translate as “probably raising funds to pay off Casey’s debts, including all the theft and the attorney’s fees) …

While Padillo and his Bad News Bears are protecting Casey’s “dear” life from harm and simultaneously guarding their investment, making sure she doesn’t run…

While Baez and his own Bad Bears are busily cooking up lies and alibis…

While the authorities are working overtime to track down the truth hiding beneath Casey’s lies, missing out on time spent working on other Missing Children cases and missing out on time spent with their own precious families…

Who is searching for Caylee?

Jan wrote:
“I don’t quite understand how they can get on TV and tell a reporter that they know Caylee has been kidnapped and they have someone watching the ones that kidnapped her. There were no doubt in his words, that is what George Anthony said. ”

I saw and heard George Anthony say exactly that. I would love to ask him “So if you know who has Caylee, why the $#@&^% do you have someone WATCHING that person(s) HAVE her? Why not tell the authorities and let them go get her however they have to get her? They would be absolutely SO RELIEVED and SO WILLING to take a task force of however many needed to go and bring that child HOME!”
I despise the way George and Cindy and Casey have filled the screen and papers with lies (Cindy doesn’t even look into the camera or anyone’s eyes–she has to look at the ground or a wall to even answer a question) and fully EXPECT the whole world to BELIEVE them! They ALL double-talk to intentionally contort facts, confuse the listener, or divert attention from the truth.

If Caylee comes up alive please bash me any way you want. I would deserve it, I guess. But I’m sadly confident that won’t happen.

Catherine, you said you hope Cindy is a psych nurse because she will need it after being with Casey in the home 24/7. 2 weeks. I give them all 2 weeks to sit and eat pizza and be bored to tears with a stranger in the house to have to look at 24/7. From reading blogs, Casey apparently does no housework, no cleaning, no laundry (Mom even washed the clothes left in the smelly old car) Maybe Cindy will buy her another laptop so she can at least party online. But she may not be happy to read what the world thinks of her.
2 weeks should be just about enough time for someone to snap. I look for the truth to come out somewhere during that snapping.

Ain’t It So,
I have been wondering the same thing about the parents (or anyone!) finding out (or already knowing) information being kept from the authorities.

Why George wasn’t arrested when he said he knew the kidnappers and their location. How is that “not” obstruction of justice? It was for Casey. (unless I’m confused)

More likely, he and his buddies were watching some apartment that Casey pointed to as they drove past it, just as she did with the original policeman who made the arrest (per the Arresting Affidavit).

I sure hope Casey googles her name…. as soon as her new fingernail polish dries …

Ain’t It So,
I enjoyed reading your sensible post.

And Cindy’s remark, in tears, saying, “I’ll search the whole world over, every nook and cranny. I’ll never stop until I find her.” ok, well, when will this grand search begin?

Casey’s first full day “out” and she spends it at Baez’s air-conditioned, ‘dry’ office, working on her defense, instead of searching for her daughter in a police car, search dogs, whatever in the heck is available to mankind, to help find her? (I can’t stop thinking about Caylee being missing in the middle of that non-stop rain)

Where is that sketch of the nanny?

AND, to add to your comment….Why doesn’t Cindy make this declaration to Casey? “get off your ass and find my granddaughter!” If she had ever spoken to Casey like that, who knows, maybe it would have helped.

I also agree on the personal search. Don’t have any grandkids, but I have toddler nieces, and my breath catches at the very thought of losing any of them even for 5 minutes. …No way could I eat or sleep or do anything but search–night and day. I would never stop.

Maybe, just maybe, brother Lee will speak up. I don’t think he’s believed Casey’s lies from the beginning.

It seems most people on here have forgotten that the main focus should be on finding Caylee…ALIVE.What is all this about(”I hope the DNA tests come back looking bad for Casey so she will go back to jail for murder”)?I for one hope the tests come back with no proof that this beautiful little girl has been harmed.My prayers are for Caylee and the entire family.I do not know the whole story nor do I claim to.

God forgive me for saying this - but maybe this baby was a shame for this family. They waited until the last minute to announce the pregnancy of their daughter, who happens to be an unwed teenager. The baby’s unidentified supposed father supposedly died. George is a pillar of the community with a reputation to uphold. Casey’s obviously lived a privileged life. I think this family was ashamed of the entire situation. Casey, who’s quite obviously had everything she wanted, had to split attention with her daughter. Any of us who have children know that when you have a baby all of the attention goes to them. When my oldest son was born (the first grandchild for my parents), I stopped receiving birthday cards and Christmas presents and everything was about my son. As a normal parent, I’m happy that my kids are blessed to get so much attention (and that buying Christmas presents for them became cheaper ;)), but maybe Casey couldn’t stand it. Her friends obviously cared about Caylee. As a matter of fact, her friends seem to care more about Caylee than they do about Casey and they also seem to care more about Caylee than George and Cindy do. After listening to the phone calls between Casey and her friends, they seem to be drawing the line. In the reports since she’s been home for 2 days I haven’t seen anything to indicate that any of her friends have visited (But I could be wrong).

Ok, so the second part of this is - these grandparents who so dearly care about their grandchild - how the heck could they not know what their granddaughter’s daily routine was!!! She lived with them! My mother lives halfway across the country and she knows the daily routine of my children. She’s met their teachers, she’s dropped them off at school when she visits and she knows who their babysitters were when they were little. I just can’t fathom how they supposedly knew so little about their own family. This is a well-educated, upper-middle class family. How could they not know who their granddaughter’s babysitter of four years was or where their daughter was working?
I go back to thinking the whole family was disinterested in Caylee. I believe they considered her a burden and the whole lot of them were concerned for their image over the love of their granddaughter/daughter. I believe they still remain disinterested. Maybe it’s a relief to them that she’s gone.
I honestly hope that’s not the case.

I think eveyone can see by the long messages that we are leaving that Caylee and this sad situation hasn’t left our thoughts. We will NOT forget Caylee and we will keep searching for the truth, even if it involves being suspecious of everyting, until JUSTICE IS SERVED!

Look, I don’t think anyone truly wishes that Caylee were dead. I know for myself, the comment that I made regarding the DNA coming back positive is the result of what I believe are indicators of where this case is going. First of all, the DNA evidence which, for all we know, still has not come back yet. That, combined with the detection by the cadaver dogs, is a big red flag in my book for where this case is going. Second of all, what mother who claims to know something about her child’s disappearance gives law enforcement erroneous information or even better, claims to be withholding information which in essence hinders any progress to the case? I’m sorry, but 9 weeks is a long time fo a missing child and let’s say Casey did have a hand in a possible cause of death for her daughter…. the longer you keep quiet the more time that a body is out there and decomposition has time to sink in; thus prohibiting any real explanation for cause of death if and when a body is found. Thirdly, Casey chose her lawyer who happens to be a well known defender of child killers in Florda. If Casey is sooooo innocent then why is her laywer concerned with the information that the cadaver dogs came up with? Why start questioning the credibility and training of these animals? I know that he is a defense lawyer and this is his job but in the grand scheme of things all of these actions confirm what I believe in my heart.And that is that I do not think that Caylee is with us any longer.

However, if this were to turn out to be one of those cases where Caylee turns up alive and well I would be the first to admit to my mistake…..but until then I have to look at what has been presented before us so far and go with that.

I agree completely, the focus should continue to be on Caylee. However, I wonder when her mother will start to realize that. I mean, how many days has she been out now? I still haven’t heard anything about her organizing a search for her child.

Makes you wonder……….

There was no doubt in my mind that Caylee is dead when I heard the homicide detective say on the stand when Casey was jailed that he knew what a dead body smelled like and Casey’s car smelled like a dead body.

Casey doesn’t tell anyone her child is missing until 31 days when Grandma demands to see her granddaughter and calls the cops when she won’t tell her where Caylee is. Even her mother smells a dead body in the car Casey was driving. Whose dead body would she be driving around if it wasn’t Caylee’s?

All of the behaviors of all of the parties - Casey, George, Cindy, Lee, the lawyer, the bounty hunter - now that Caylee is out of jail indicate to me they know Caylee is dead and they are protecting Casey, the murderer.

Cindy and George claim they know Caylee was kidnapped but they’ve never made a plea on TV to the so-called kidnappers like other families who fear their loved one is kidnapped, just made irrational remarks that they know who the kidnappers are and are watching them. Nothing any of them do or say sounds like they are really looking for Caylee. They are more concerned about protecting the image of the family than they are Caylee.

This will be a forensics case although they have a pretty good circumstantial case also. A mother who didn’t report her child missing for 31 days and then refuses to cooperate with the police in finding her and the smell of a dead body in the car trunk is enough circumstantial evidence to me.

I’d convict Casey of second degree murder or manslaughter with just the evidence I have before me if I were on the jury because the facts point to the fact that Caylee died at the hands of her mother. The state may have a difficult time proving first degree murder unless she confesses. She’s too self centered and narcistic to confess. She’s concerned about her body, not her daughter’s.

Concerned said,”Where is that sketch of the nanny? ”
Good question. Has the usual sketch artist drawn the nanny (for us who are supposed to be looking for her and Caylee) so that we have an idea of WHO to look for? How tall is she? Is she thin or robust? Is she an older woman or is she around Casey’s age? Does she speak with an accent at all? Is her hair long, short, natural color, dyed, spiked, highlighted? Is her complexion dark, medium, or light? Does she wear glasses? Does she have straight teeth? Dentures? A gold tooth? Are her ears pierced? How many piercings? Does she have any tatoos? Does she drive? (apparently so, if Casey told the truth that nanny took her to an amusement park) So what kind of car does she drive? Does she keep other children besides Caylee, as in a daycare home? How did Casey meet her and come to trust her as a babysitter? Why does the babysitter have “several” phone numbers with different area codes and can’t be reached sometimes?
Is the babysitter single, divorced, married? Did she keep Caylee for free? If not, how much was her fee to babysit and where did Casey get the money since she didn’t work? Did she babysit Caylee often overnight?

CASEY ANTHONY CAN ANSWER EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THESE QUESTIONS IF THERE IS INDEED A BABYSITTER AT ALL. WHY HASN’T SHE?

Who leaves a child of any age with someone for “ALMOST 3 YEARS” and doesn’t know all these things about the person with whom she is entrusting her child? Come on! Even if you are immature and not paying attention, after THREE years you would know all these answers. How lame to say “I can’t remember the exact address because after going there so many times, I just didn’t pay attention to the address.” Casey, that’s double-talk. Because if you have driven there so many times, you could tell the cops every turn to make, get out, and walk them straight to the correct apartment. “because I have been there so many times” You don’t have to remember the exact address. The apartment doors were shown on TV. They have numbers on the doors. You can drive there and drop Caylee off but you can’t direct the cops there and walk them to the correct apartment? And no, sorry, I don’t buy Cindy’s explanation that “Casey didn’t tell them the exact apartment because it would have endangered Caylee. She just pointed in the general direction.” (#1 WHO told Cindy that? Cindy said THAT while all contact with Cindy was being recorded!! for the world to hear and I never heard Casey give one iota of info to anybody during a visit or call and I have listened to every one several times each)

I am not going to scroll up and copy and paste, but for those who are frustrated with us who have the theory that Caylee isn’t with us anymore: We aren’t negative thinking people or naysayers, or placing ourselves in a judge’s position. We have been gripped from day one with the story of a then 2-year-old girl who had been missing 31 days before her grandmother knew and reported it against the wishes of the child’s mother. We aren’t embracing Casey right now because she is accounted for (and quite safely). Everyone knows exactly where Casey is and that she is getting hot showers and lots of pizza, hugs, and kisses. She has a roof over her to keep the rain out of her her face and air-conditioning to stay nice and cool. BUT CAYLEE IS SOMEWHERE AWAY FROM THE ONLY FAMILY SHE KNOWS EITHER ALIVE OR DEAD AND WE WANT HER FOUND!!!!!!!!!!

YES!! There is a “norm” when it comes to parents and children. We CAN compare our own families to theirs and anyone else’s. Children have become disposable in our society and it sickens us who believe that a child’s needs come BEFORE and ABOVE the parent’s. We won’t stop analyzing Casey’s and her family’s stories until we see a smiling little girl returned home–or until her remains have been found or DNA proves that Jesus is rocking her now. Casey has both parents holding her now and meeting her every need. Caylee doesn’t. Casey had every opportunity to grow up loved, coddled, adored, doted upon. Caylee hasn’t had that chance. I hope she does get that chance. But some of us here believe that Caylee’s chance at a life like Casey has had is long gone. We (at least I do) base that belief on non-stop digging for information from any venue we can because an innocent child is unaccounted for. My grandchildren are accounted for, safe, and happy, thank God! So I have time and tears and concern for someone else’s child who is unaccounted for, because I haven’t seen or heard those things from the child’s own mother. My mother’s heart wants to hold Caylee and take care of her, assure her that she is safe—tuck her in her little bed. And my mother’s heart is angry at Casey for “losing” Caylee. In my mind, however narrow you see it, there is no excuse! I know some info is erroneous. But most of what I base my belief on is documented and solid.

It’s quite alright if you don’t agree. Opinions and beliefs are like noses. Everybody has them. And you are entitled to yours. I honor that. I just don’t see Caylee coming home alive based on the information given. And because of that, I have no sympathy for Casey, who is the cause, or the parents, who are backing her story.

I hope you are right, and I am wrong.

Great blog!

I predict that any “help” that Casey offers for the search of her daughter will just be part more lies and more wild goose chases. I don’t think that Casey is even slightly concerned about her daughter, as she has already demonstrated that she only cares about herself. She has all the traits of a disturbed sociopath as has been discussed many times.

Casey has put a horrible burden on her own family. I’m sure her parents are going through a lot of anguish right now. They seem to genuinely love Caylee. Still, they continue to contribute Casey’s circus by falling for her lies. They must be in denial on some level; but at the same time they must realize that things are not looking good for finding little Caylee.

Casey seems to be able to manipulate others as well, such as her attorney who has now stated that this is a kidnapping case. He is on a wild ride with her and may regret it. As far as I understand, he is doing this Pro-Bono, probably for the publicity.

Ain’tItSo?

Wow.. I’m kind of floored to see an actual post by a thinking/feeling human being. Seriously.

I suppose I was venting. I have 2 small children and I know in my heart that Casey killed Caylee, most likely accidentally and it just KILLS me to see her smirking in court and talking about how she can’t wait to take a shower and eat a pizza. Obvious to all parents is the fact that she is EFFECTIVELY inhuman. Not that she IS inhuman, but for all intents and purposes, she may as well be.

If Caylee was still alive and kidnapped and Casey actually believed that (or KNEW that), then she would not be thinking about showers or pizza, she would be working 24/7 trying to make sure Caylee was safe. The fact that she doesn’t do this speaks volumes to her guilt.

Perhaps OJ Simpson really IS looking for Nicole’s murderer on the golf courses of Florida, but I, as most humans do, highly doubt it.

Great blog! I’ve definitely learned more about this case today. When this case first broke, I followed intently but had to pull myself away once I realized there was (in my opinion) very little chance of her “safe” return home.

For a short time I played “online detective” and lurked on Casey’s myspace page as well as her brother, Lee’s page. Most of Casey’s comments had been deleted from a few weeks prior to the disappearance of Caylee back through several months. How convenient. Have the police investigated any of this? Have they confiscated any computers? I found correspondence back and forth between Casey her brother a week or so before Caylee allegedly went missing. They had talked about Lee coming over for a “visit” and how happy Caylee had been to see him. Within a week or so is when Caylee was “kidnapped”.

Now that this case has blown up, Casey’s page has turned into a “help find Caylee site” and her brothers page has been made private. I think the FBI and Police should bring Lee in again and perform a more intense questioning session. (Maybe even incorporate some Chinese water torture lol.) If anybody knows what happened, it would be him.

It’s a very sad situation and I pray that Caylee is either safe somewhere or that she went peacefully and did not suffer. Either way, I believe Casey is an evil girl and has very deep rooted psychological issues. If she doesn’t go to jail, please lock her in a mental institution.

I’m thinking that it will be difficult to punish Casey into talking or helping. She seems to be quite damaged and probably will not respond to pressure. I read a bit about the sociopathic personality the other night and one thing stuck me. Apparently, sociopaths have a low anxiety threshold, which could explain why she isn’t freaking out like everyone else is.

Anything Casey does will be for attention or self-gratification. I don’t know how outsiders (everyone but her) could possibly motivate her to be responsible. Whatever the case, I just hope she is brought to justice. And if by miracle little Caylee is returned, she should not be raised by her mother–that seems pretty obvious at this point I guess.

I realize that we have certain constitutional rights. I felt that in this situation where Casey was not forthcoming with relevant information of the whereabouts of her daughter; the authoritites should have insisted on her allowing a Dr. to administer truth serum to her. Eventhough I am told this is against our constitutional rights… I ask you if Caylee does not have any constitutional rights as well. What determines whose rights are more important? I feel that this little child has the right to be with someone loving and nurturing…. enabling her to grow up and to become a responsible, accountable adult. So why has the authorities and Casey’s co-horts allowed her not to tell what only she knows? If she would not say the truth willingly… then I would have insisted on truth serum.

I would like everyone to know that you are = you’re, not “your.”

I wish that Caylee is found as soon as possible!

Jaded, I can only hope that friends or family of the Anthony family can talk some sense into them. I know from the media that Casey’s friends are not making very supportive statements but they may know more than they are volunteering at this point but don’t want to be the ” narc”. I think that some might be waiting hoping that evidence will be her undoing - but will come forward if it appears that she will be getting away with it. I honestly don’t believe that Casey killed her daughter - that it may have been an accident- this allows Casey to operate under a very thin feeling if ” innocence”. It won’t last - and we aren’t fooled. I think the family needs to see that the path they are on isn’t the wisest option.

Don’t you think Casey looks like she thinks she is a princess? Notice the footage of her court hearing and dancing in the bars. The Colgate smile. The smirk. The little wave.

Listen to her telephone calls from jail. Her swearing and sarcastic arrogant, superior way of talking down to her family and about the media and acting like her attorney is her personal secretary.

“I need to talk to Jose,” “Jose is coming over and we’re going over the media coverage so I can get a good laugh,” “The police are not listening. I told them everything I know.”

Notice how she changed her tune once she found out the whole world was listening to her swearing and berating her family. Notice how she clung to her attorney after 36 days in jail and whispered in his ear.

I bet she’s back to swearing and running roughshod over her family and treating them and her attorney like slaves.

Geraldo’s on the air bringing up the “kidnapping” possibility again. OK, is Caylee was “kidnapped” why has there been no description of the “kidnapper” given or released?

Does anyone know if the Geraldo show will be repeated again tonight? Because, dang, I missed it.
I’ve been out all day and was anxious to come home and read your comments. It’s nice to know that people, on here, are as obsessed and outraged as I am regarding this horrible case. Your comments show very logical thinking. One can tell that you’re not just pulling thoughts from thin air. You are analyzing everything we know so far and trying to put it in to perspective. After evaluating the actions of everyone involved in this case, I feel that the majority of us have come to suspect that Caylee is dead and her mother is responsible for her death in some way. This group is very intelligent and I’m sure if facts changes so may our viewpoint. But right now Casey appears to be as guilty as hell and her relatives are either pretending to believe her or are so naïve that they can’t see the forest for the trees. God bless precious Caylee!

Catherine, Thanks for the compliment! : )

Haven’t been in for a few nights now. Computer issues trying to correct them. Can anyone let me know what active blog everyone is currently using? Catherine, Therapist, Dak, Mandi…Anyone?

Glad I found it…Need to get some computer issues sorted. Recovery program…Due to some European “buggies” I picked up while surfing the Madeleine case. Portugal & Uk websites don’t seem to be nice to Americans..LOL!

Anyone know how the weather is doing, in respect of searching for Caylee?

After everyone posted long comments, evidently they got tired and left for the evening. I don’t think there is anyone on here but the two of us. But, you know how that goes… anyone can pop in at any time.

Monday Night Therapist,
You know this is a nice blog. I stumbled upon it by reading the article and posting. What I read here most is frustration. It’s not like we want to crucify Casey (Is that an option?), but people are frustrated with the fact that nothing seems to make any sense. I finally decided it doesn’t make sense, and can come to no other conclusion that fits. If only that little girl could come home… but I doubt it. I wish I didn’t, but I have no reason to hope that she is okay. I am heartened that so many people care. I wish we could have this kind of coverage for every missing child.

Cheers-
Jaded

Geraldo At Large will air again at 1:00am on FNC (FoxNewsChannel)
I missed most of the 10:00pm show, too.

That’s because I think she knows exactly where she is. And that is sad to think about.

I think so too. I am just frustrated trying to follow Madeleines case too. Because those European sites are brutal! I really feel that little girl will be found, and hopefully soon.

Kris, what is happening with the Madeleine case? Are they getting new leads?

That CCTV footage from Belgium was I feel a real sighting. But then about 4 days later they claimed they ruled it out that a man came forward recognizing his daughter with her nanny. But noone believes it in the blogs, because someone superimposed that photo next to the Morrocan photo taken last year and it is the same woman! Shortly after the Belgium sighting 2 weeks ago…. the Mccann’s hired some “top dogs”, ex FBI/CIA agents from the U.S. So now they have 3 teams of detectives working for them.

The forecast for Orlando calls for rain every day through next Friday. Temperatures in the high 80’s and low 90’s.

So, do you think there are similarities between the Madeleine case and this one? Others seem to be making a connection, but I don’t see it.

I don’t see any connections other than 2 missing children… I actually was appalled that Casey’s lawyer said this to the media. I feel it was only because he wanted to make that comment about money pouring in for the Mccann family with the case, and hoping he could do the same for the Anthony family to line his pockets more. I was really ticked off by that. I have followed every twist & turn of Madeleines case, and I don’t feel any connection other than the missing children. Ironically speaking that case has a family torn apart emotionally doing everything to find there child, while this mother sits on her laurels.

Thanks Kris. Well, I don’t think Casey has any laurels to rest on, as she has never accomplished anything. But I know what you mean. I heard that Baez is doing this case pro-bono, but I don’t know if that is accurate. I’m sure he would like to line his pockets by bringing money in for the family though. This is one pathetic family. I know they are broken up about Caylee. But what did they do to their daughter to make her such a sociopath–inquiring minds would like to know. I find that following these cases is really heartbreaking, still I can’t help it.

To tell you the truth at the very beginning I was suspecious of Madeleine’s parents but it didn’t last long because there was absolutely no evidence to point in their direction. The only thing they were guilty of was for leaving those children unattended. I’m sure they will spend the rest of their lives regretting it.

Does anyone here believe Jose’ Baez is defending Casey Anthony pro bono (for free as a public service)? Who is paying his bills for the last month and the next 6-12+ months? He spent 6 hours yesterday in conference with Casey. I can’t believe he isn’t getting paid from somewhere. Does anyone know if he is court-appointed? How did Casey come to get him to defend her case, which is similar to the case he just lost?

Yes, I heard it many times on the news that Jose is doing this pro-bono. Believe me he will not need to get paid from this because all the publicity will make him well known and he will become extremely rich from other high profile cases he will be handling after this. Even if he loses this case he will still be in demand because of all the publicity.

You got it right boroman!

I think those type of layers are slimy. How can you defend some of those cases. I could not live with myself if I did that for a living.

They also have many reasons to believe she is alive, and none like Casey’s case that everyone feels she is not.

Jose Baez is nothing more than a paid stooge. He blames the police for not treating the case as a missing child, but offers up no credible information that would lead anyone to believe that Caylee was kidnapped, stolen, or anything that would leave any reasonable person to believe that Casey did not do something to Caylee that resulted in her no longer being alive.

I often wonder…because Casey is home now, if she could be reading some of these blogs to see what people are saying about her. Peeking at others opinions, and looking for anything to tip off her lawyer with.

Let’s not forget that this family went along with Casey when she said she wasn’t pregnant even though it was very clear that she was. Apparently Casey didn’t admit she was pregnant until it was nearly time to give birth. Now, what’s up with that? Clearly this family will go by Casey’s words rather than the absolute facts that are staring them right in the face!

I think BH should question Casey about Caylee wiithut Jose, Cindy, George or Lee present. He may be in it for the p.r., but I think he could get more out of her than her lawyer and her family.

I’m not sure how accurate this is but a friend told me that she read somewhere that Casey wanted to give Caylee up for adoption and Cindy refused to let her do that. I wonder if that had anything to do with them denying Casey was pregnant until they resolved the issue.

Therapist…Was that give her up for adoption during the pregnancy? If so someone selfish like Casey may even consider that still an option even after she was born, and realized that the child was cramping her lifstyle. She never really developed that maternal bond it seems, so in her mind I think she could still do it.

From what my friend said… it was before she delivered Caylee and right after. Just like you said.. once she realized that Caylee was cramping her style.

But it would have been better if she would have given her up because Caylee would be with a loving family right now. I am all for adoption for those who sadly can’t have a baby of their own and really want one to love.

Kris,
That goes back to my theory about Casey selling Caylee to her father’s family. Remember her saying to her friend Amy I can’t wait for of to be roomies. Of course, if the DNA comes back positive that blows that theory.

But, if Casey did put Caylee up for a legal adoption, wouldn’t the parents come forward after all the publicity about Caylee’s disappearance?

I thought I heard on the 911 tape that Cidy said, I haven’t seen my grandaughter for 31 days.

There are black market adoption agencies out there. I would think they would pay Casey the highest price for the child, and with the type of crowds she hung out with, I don’t feel it would be too hard for her to find someone who was a contact. She has some extremely motley looking friends. And if this happened there may be a clause that she has no rights to know whatsoever where that child is going or to ever see her again. And we do know she was having money trouble, the stolen money from her friend, the stolen gas cans….

Black Market Adoption. Now I feel really ill. The thing about the money is confusing though. People say she stole gas cans because she was out of money, etc., but at the same time she had her parents credit card/s and ran up a bill of $45k. Why couldn’t she buy the gas? Still, to sell your child for money is worse than murder, as she would probably end up in some child porno scenario.

I remember seeing a comical plaque someone had on their wall at one time. It said something like, “I wouldn’t take a million dollars for this little child of mine, but on a bad rainy day…try offering me a dime.” It was funny at the time, but thinking about that but it makes me think that someone like Casey who is selfish & narcisstic could probably get stressed with her baby enough to want to do this. Children that age can be trying, and I’ll bet she got so stressed out with her, combined with the selfishness of thinking she was limited in her outings with friends.

I don’t think she could afford time out of her busy scheduele to visit her. After all, she has to be at work at Universal, then the partys after every night….

She is truly sociopathic. Someone who entirely thinks for themselves only without any consequence as to how situations will affect others thoughts, feelings etc…. Her first thought in every situation has to be, “How can this affect me”, “How can I benefit from this situation”. It’s sad but I actually know someone who is like this within my own life. And everything this person does is completely narcisstic. Never can do anything to help anybody without getting something out of it for themselves. Or gloating about what a good person they were to help if they do. It is truly very sad.

Kris,

I think Casey never had that bond with Caylee. It was Cindy that was the caregiver to Caylee as per Cindy’s myspace. I guess Casey said to herself my parents don’t have any more money for me to steal so I better look at my other options. Hey, I’ll sell Caylee.

That does make sense Catherine , and she was also jealous of her parents love for her child too. Remember.

Casey is due in court in November for the neglect charge, and lying to the police. The police are going to take their time charging her until they are 100% sure she did it.

I can’t even imagine a childs thoughts to know that their own parent or parents didn’t want them. That is horrific knowledge.

I would pay money to have a couple cracks at Casey. She needs a good beating by someone. They need to put her back in the jail with the whole population and let her get her just rewards.

I know this may sound bad….but if they ever convicted Casey and gave her the death penalty airing it on paypreview, I would have to buy a bigger screen tv, and microwave the popcorn for everyone to see it at my place. This is how much I hate this woman.

I think George is about as full as much hot air as his balloons have.

You are not alone Kris! There is really no adequate revenge for this though–even execution isn’t enough.

I doubt if anyone in the US that feels sorry for the Anthony family. Even their former neighbor has stopped defending them.

I hear you Kris. I think my family would do the same. I am quite sure that my own father would put a gun to my head to get the truth out of me. And if I lied, I would be dead or out. I guess that’s why Casey is just going on as normal. She has probably never really faced any serious consequence in her life.

I just heard on Gerald Rivera that all the D.J.’s that Casey hung out with showed there corporate address at Saw Grass Apartments. The same place she said, she dropped Caylee off to Zenaida Gondaldez.

Saw Grass Apartments is where her friend Amy lived also. Sounds like some kind of ring.

Along with the over induldging parents too..

Symbolic pizza indeed. I would have gotten a hot pizza in my face. I don’t know about the apartment connection. I think it simply shows that Casey has a lack of imagination and chose the first place that came to her sneaky–but lazy–mind.

I still have some catching up reading to do but wanted to say ‘welcome back’ to Kris. I thought you must have been busy since returning to work.

Ain’t It So — Great response about the nanny (2:30 pm). All true, and good points.

Question:
Why on earth was Baez sailing with Geraldo on his boat? We already have had the entertainment world crossing over and synthesizing with this LEGAL case.

Is the news next? What is Geraldo’s connection here? Why was he free to walk in the Padillo RV parked outside of “the house” w/o knocking? Someone asked earlier if Geraldo could be the undisclosed NY source who put Padillo together with Baez.

If all of this is true, and Geraldo is this well-connected to the defense attorney, then “WE” may have just crossed new boundaries here. Is this what we want as a society?

Don’t we want authorities (those IN POWER) and those involved in the justice system to have well delineated boundaries, separating them from the news industry and the entertainment industry? Could Geraldo be paying Baez, and in return he gets better access? Is someone behind the scenes “producing” this show?
(I don’t dislike Geraldo–this is just potentially very disturbing to me)

The news industry has potential power to control (remember Ayn Rand’s “The Fountainhead?”). Where’s the objectivity?

At the very least, we as a society need full disclosure. If a connection exists, then disclose it to the public.

OMG
I need to go to the bathroom.

(I don’t dislike Geraldo–this is just potentially very disturbing to me)

Hello Concerned…Just took a hiatis to fix my sqrewed up comuter. But your comment about Geraldo. Gotta say I hate him. Ever since that episode where he tried to draw lines in the sand over in Iraq to show exactly where are troops were located….Then the screen went black & he was fired the next day.

He didn’t use his brain on that one, and could have killed many of our soldiers giving their coordinates away to the enemy….ever since then I hated him.

Well, after watching Geraldo, do we know any more now or are we more confused? The officer on the show didn’t give a lot of hope that they have any solid evidence of death OR kidnapping. Either he is protecting the case or they really ahve nothing to go on. I wish Leonard would go home.

Concerned -
Geraldo has always been on the fringe of legitimacy. I’m a little surprised, but not astounded about his connection w/Baez. Perhaps it’s the old “birds of a feather” thing…

Not to change the subject but, what does everyone think of the Obama/Biden ticket.

Personally, I am for John McCain,and very proud to say it.

Good Night Kris

I was for Hillary too, but switched over to McCain. She would have made a great president.

I think Hillary would have been great also. I was seriously considering McCain, and actually read quite a bit about him. In the final analysis I came out with a huge respect for McCain, but can’t go along with some of the issues that he supports.

Good chatting with you all…

Goodnight Concerned…
You’re right about Cindy though. Maybe the whole family are liars and cons. None of them have behaved as I would have expected!

If that happens, I’ll vote for McCain myself…

Here is a very in teresting article I just found. It supposedly is written by Cindy Anthony’s brother and sheds light on things that have been confusing to us. I am inclined to believe it actually was written by Cindy’s brother. The facts I already had match his perfectly. (not that anyone could have gleaned the info from the same venues I have) Still, I am taking it as truth. It makes more sense than anyhting I have heard/read so far. There are pics of Cindy’s brother with their mom and dad also, as well as other family pics. (click on photos on the menu on the left of the page)

http://momtective.wordpress.com/2008/08/22/posted-by-cindy-anthonys-brother/

I’m not sure where the info came from but I found something very interesting.

Yes, Zenaida Gonzalez would be located under the name of Zenaida Ortiz - in New York as Casey stated….
Zanny was the Grandma”Nanny” - and if you look her name up under Grandparents rights Zenaida Ortiz (Grandparents rights) you will find her posting from last year (prior to her sons death) expressing anger at her inability to see her granddaughter in Florida….about the other grandparents seeing her all the time. They need to check into this.

So are you saying that Zenaida could be Caylee’s grandmother? Now that is interesting!

Jesus, that could make this whole thing even more sinister. If Caylee is with her paternal grandmother, she could have said so long ago rather than saying she was the nanny. It sounds like you are onto something though. I wonder if the police have made this connection. Casey’s parents claim that they don’t even know who Caylee’s father is…

I checked out your link–thanks. That is interesting Ain’titSo. I wonder if Casey just used the guys name so that it would seem like she knew who the father is. She wouldn’t be the only woman not to know who fathered her child. Who’s to really know though w/o a DNA profile? I wouldn’t put it past Casey to lie about this as she has lied about everything else. She may have even made it up after the accident figuring that since he was no longer around there would be no problem…

Apparently Rick (Cindy Anthony’s brother) was phone interviewed by Greta? I missed that though and can’t find a transcript yet. Anyone have a link?

I think the amount of money Casey stole from her parents on credit cards (I’ve read 25K or 45K), the check taken from her Grandfather, the money & check she stole from Amy (~$750) leads me to believe she was into serious trouble with drugs.

That is the only part that made sense to me about potential situations with Caylee where she may have been taken. Greg Padilla specifically talked about this being something his brother would be considering - i.e. if Caylee was taken due to a botched drug deal (or sold for drugs) etc. There is virtually nothing in the mainstream media coverage about what the heck Casey was actually doing with all that money she stole, or how involved she might have been with drugs/drug dealing. (I mean we know she wasn’t doing 9 to 5 work, could she have started dealing? ) In that posting (apparently) from Rick (Cindy Anthony’s brother) he suspects the new crowd she was partying with was into coke or extasy. I mean you can take money from your parents, but you start taking money or drugs from people in these kinds of crowds, and something is gonna happen to you or your family. I do that that Leonard Padilla got involved because he thought that it might be that kind of situation, and he could “save the day”.

Anyway, there is a small chance it was something like that, and of course the larger probability that Casey did something intentially or covered up an accident

One other point about the drugs - whatever mental health issues Casey might have, they could have gone over the top if she started doing something like MMDA. Back when I was in college in the 80’s, my boyfriend was doing MDA and it triggered bipolar disorder for him. He is still on medication. I saw another college friend go through a similar mental changes doing MDA - except he became schizophrenic.

I keep turning around the facts of this case like a Rubeks(sp) cube and when I look at the possible scenarios only one fits. If Caylee was kidnapped then I think. Casey wouldve gotten her parents involved right away, I mean why would she run away (basically ) steal money, gas and credit cards? This certainly wouldn’t involve partying and dating and shopping. Even if this how she did react ( unlikely) once confronted there would have been sketch artist, amber alert, other witnesses to the kidnapper/babysitter story. If Caylee was sold then I can see Casey wanting to avoid her parents wrath but wouldn’t involve stealing credit cards, racking them up ( afterall she would have cash from the sale). Plus wouldn’t she have planned better- like say she took a job out of state or have a big blowout with her parents and moveout saying “you’ll never see me or Caylee again!” plus she might lie to her parents when caught but not the police when facing charges. Of course I am only looking at her actions not even including the scent evidence. The only scenario that fits is that she directly or indirectly caused harm to Caylee and didn’t have time to plan and couldn’t go to her parents for help and just did what her gut instinct was “Run! Hide! Lie !” and just tried to make the rest up as she came to it. This explains the flurry of phone calls to her parents, the stealing of cc and money, the quick “be out of town for a few days” the abondonment of car so she couldn’t be tracked easily. Any other ideas?

Does anyone know if The so-called worried out of her mind mother attended church this morning? IMO there is only one reason that she should show her face in public and that is to look for her baby girl other than that then she should be kept handcuffed to her bed.I have a 7 yr. old son and if he went missing for just thirty minutes I would be frantic and if he was missing as long as Caylee I swear I would be skin and bones by now from the constant panic and not being able to stop looking for him.I was listing to her whine to her mother about how she couldn’t spend every moment of her day in tears because she had to keep calm so that she could help the police find Caylee.That has been over a month now and still no Caylee.You would think that her parents would start to realize that she is not going to tell them or any one else what happened to her daughter.Does any one know why there was no Amber Alert issued on Caylee? was it because that witch waited a month before she came clean? I swear children today have no safety.I just heard an Amber Alert issued for a 2 yr. girl who was snatched out of her front yard.It is saying that she is feared to be in grave danger.Everyone please pray for this sweet baby girl.The description of the man who took her is that he is covered in tattoes and is bald.He was driving a white pick-up with Florida tags didn’t get the number.I’m going to keep the faith that this child and Caylee will both be returned unharmed and happy.

I don’t know Kris, but I have thought of that also. I would be willing to bet though that whatever “truth” Casey divulged to Tony would just turn out to be more elaborate lies.

I recently read John McCain’s story of being in a North Vietnamese prison where he was constantly tortured. Once, after a particularly harsh torture session he acquiesced and wrote a short “confession.” After that he said that he realized that everyone has a breaking point. I’m not advocating torturing Casey–although I have fantasized about it–but I’m thinking that someone needs to scare the living crap out of her with the threat that if her information doesn’t pan out things will get much worse.

The Anthony’s former neighbor was appearing on all kind of shows right after everyone picked up the story, even Larry King and Anderson Cooper’s 360. Apparently, she knew Cayley and babysat for her also. She even said that Casey babysat her kids. I haven’t seen her for a while though. I’d be willing to bet she has bowed out of representing the Anthony’s as it is pretty evident that they are all “strangers to the truth.” I don’t know if they are doing this for money or not. I don’t think so, but then again I couldn’t vouch for people that are so irregular.

Catherein, Where did you read about Lee Anthony? I’ll have to look that up.

I just read something interesting. There was an inmate that said Casey told him that Caylee was with one of her ex-boyfriends but the police never followed up on it because they say they were not able to verify the conversation happened.

Baez states,”she’s a good mother.” OK so is not reporting your kid missing for 30 days considered a good mother? What about sleeping over your boyfriend(s) houses & partying all night. How are you a good mother when you are hung over?? I’m sorry maybe I would give her the benefit of the doubt, but with a history of lying & stealing I just can’t. I don’t put much stock in people that lie, steal & show no concern for their children.

Would you be spending a relaxing evening at home while your kid is missing (per Baez)? Or would you be screaming from the rooftops going nuts that your kid is missing.

The bottom line is that she is guilty of something and was hoping that all the evidence would wash away within 30 days. I feel sorry for this little girl & I pray that the majority of us are wrong & that she is still alive.

I now want to know the FACTS of exactly what Casey has been doing since they are saying she is helping with the search. Because I just don’t see anything but a smokescreen.

Without a doubt Casey is a serial liar as well as a thief. Now God only knows what she has done. Her family should kick her ass to the curb and let her fend for herself. Even if she were my own daughter I would not support her and take care of her after all she has done. She would be a stranger to me, and I would focus only on finding Caylee. Caylee is the only one who warrants our prayers and attention.

I would like to know if Casey was a “pageant kid”, in pageants and on stage, maybe in children’s theatre. That smile is not a smile from her heart–it is a pageant smile that comes from her huge head and concept of herself. All her smiles and poses are practiced—like a person is taught when they are groomed for pageants, dance recitals, theatre.
I have to contact Ann Rule and make sure she is keeping up with this. She would be the author who could put the story together from the time Casey was born. (sure the Anthony’s would cooperate)

Has anyone heard anything on what’s going on at the Anthony house these past two days? I know this past Friday she spent at Jose’s office… and I know about the pizza delivery the other day but I’m wondering about Saturday and today.

Thanks for responding Jade!

Hey, if you’re still on here, did you happen to catch Geraldo last night? I fell asleep but as I did I thought I heard them say something to the fact that either the police had nothing as far as the DNA is concerned or someone inside the Police department said the DNA came back and it’s not a positive match. Do you know if that’s true or not… or was I just dreaming that I heard something like that.

I’m telling you this case has really got me obsessed with it.

P.S. I know what you mean about the obsessive quality of this case. I think many of us feel the same way!

Jade… I think you might be right and law enforcement is building their case to charge Casey. I’m sure that’s why Jose is builing his defense case at the same time. And.. although Jose is saying he’s working on the “Child Neglect” charge.. I’m sure he’s working on a lot more than that. He knows his client is in trouble and he knows what the Court of public opinion is too so, he’s trying to say things about Caylee being a good mother, etc. in order to oil the jury pool.

I have to get to the store… be back shortly!

Like all of the comments above, this is possibly one of the saddest cases I ever heard about, ( besides jon benet).. and the handwriting is on the wall. There will be a trial, and she better plead mercy right now, because there is no defense casey, none. as I read all the comments from all you caring people, you know sometimes I feel we live in a cold cold society where people don’t care about fellow human beings, but I am so wrong wrong, as I am reminded here.. we as a society DO care, and so for you little caylee, a whole country loved you, even though we never met you, you will never be forgotten, or uncared about, there will be justice for your soul, taken so soon, and punishment will happen. I have tremendous faith in our judicial system, as for all the actions thus far of all involved, I can only say gear up for one big trial, and, if I am wrong on it all, and by some bizarre weird twist, some unknown kidnapper has taken this child, well, then maybe the one who took, saw that she needed to be taken, ( maybe from the car alone)??? away from so much madness that surrounded her poor short sad little life! I will keep watching as much as the sight of the mom on tv nauseates me, just as I did peterson, who did the same thing for 4 months, knowing he had thrown her into the ocean..

Oh, I guess it is a real link…

In reviewing this site I’m just thinking about all of the families who are torn apart when their little ones go missing. Maybe this tragedy with Caylee will make people wonder about others who need help.

Yeah, about the call-girl theories… possible. But given the partying and the crowd she was with I think it is much more likely she was some how involved with drugs and potentially drug deals. If so I suspect there is perhaps another level to folks in her “new crowd” cutting ties asap. I suspect that as the truth comes out, other people may be implicated in drug usage/dealing.

I did hear that the police tested Casey for drugs in jail and it was negative. So, I’m not inclined to put too much weight on the drug theory.

I don’t want to beat a dead horse but I want to mention one more time about how I feel we have a right to analyze Casey’s actions and make assumptions for Caylee’s sake.

Not reporting your daughter missing for 31 days then lying to law enforcement officers and leading them off course, rightfully throws great suspicion on a person, whether they like it or not. That should happen to ANYONE who does such a thing.

NO ONE should feel guilty about being suspicious of something that doesn’t sound right or a person whose actions are very strange. Early suspicion of Scott Peterson by Laci might have saved her life.

From watching the media, they don’t have that answer on where she was going on those supposed drop off times, and she definitely was not working, had no job. she was going to the boyfriends off and on, in my mind i was wondering was she leaving the child alone in the car? because boyfriend reported she never said anything about the child or where the child was when she was at his house, I guess he just assumed the child was with the grandparents. I’m sure he would not give it much thought if she was over there, being in a new relationship, he would not question it.

Yes, the decomposition smell is huge evidence. And let’s not forget that Cindy Anthony is a nurse, so she is probably familiar with the distinctive smell of a corpse. Later she tried to cover it up with the lie about the smell coming from an old pizza, but I believe her initial reaction. She was panicked and horrified. Those initial reactions are important.

The think about that “private call” is that the police looked into the records that the phone company provided and there was no call at that time, not even a private call. Pathological liars lie about everything–it is their first response to a question. I worked with a guy for six years who would lie about everything, including what he had for lunch! Of course this is very serious, but I don’t think the truth ever occurs to Casey.

just read something interesting. According a local Orlando station the BH said that he knows who has Caylee and is giving them a deadline to return her before they go after them. Not sure how believable that is but if it is then good. He says that Casey and her mom had a fight on the 15th and Cindy told her she would take Caylee away from her and Casey gave her to a friend so mom couldn’t finde her.

Well we can only hope.

The media attention is waning. Camera crews are backing off the street and moving to other stories as there are no new developments with this one. My fear is that this is exactly what the Anthony family is anticipating and desiring. I believe they are holding out for the “this too shall pass” moment when they are outside of the day to day spotlight of national news. There are so many people following this story that I believe we should band together and email CNN, FoxNews, MSNBC and others and appeal to them not to move on. If the media pressure remains constant the family may get frustrated. Certainly they will make mistakes and one of those may just be a telling sign.

Just my two cents.

Okay concerned hers one for you. Before Caylee went missing who was watching her when grandma and her weren’t who was she dropping her off to.

About the online access to come up with new lies I think is hogwash. Not while she’s being monitored 24/7

Dak,
The more I think about this the more ridiculous it gets. If this were true, Casey would have told the police the second she was arrested. Getting in trouble with her mother would have been the very least of her troubles. Remember, she spent 30+ days behind bars. She wouldn’t have done this if she knew who had Caylee.

She would have had no reason to not tell police she was with a friend. None.

This story also assumes this “friend” either has seen no one for 60+ days or that whoever she saw is keeping the secret. Not likely. (any of them could have also collected $225K).

This also assumes the “friend” has not allowed Caylee to go outside. Why? What could possibly motivate a “friend” to stay silent like this?
Nothing.

And how would this fit into Casey’s supposed tale that her family would be in danger if Casey disclosed the name of the person who had Caylee? A friend? Making physical threats? OK, even if so, why not tell police? They know how to deal with this. Can you spell S.W.A.T.?

AND, remember the police have seen her phone records. You can bet they have identified every person she called. Probably visited every person she called.

Nope. I’m not buying it for a minute.

Dak,
Are you aware that not one, but two dogs noted decomposition? And yes, they are trained to ignore dead animals. They only detect humans.

Two dogs, a homicide detective, and a grandmother.

I hope and pray with all my might that they are all wrong and that Caylee is safe and sound and smiling.

I’m just not convinced by the evidence. there have been other case with evidence pointing towards the person being dead and they found them alive.

Just because the evidence suggests a person is dead is not a reason to assume the worst. if more people thought like that then people who are assumed dead would never be found

First of all I looked up Casey on myspace and I didn’t find one.

I saw it, dak. With my own eyes. I saw it on the day it was updated–day she met with attorney. It is set to private, but it shows last date logged in.

Okay what is the link and the username.

I only found one that was set to private and it wasn’t her.

If Casey logged into myspace she is even dumber than I imagined.

Any of the myspace pages that you may have found have been logged onto while she was in jail and anyone with access can change anything.

Dak, What did you hope to find on Casey’s myspace? I’m a little confused as to why you are pursuing this… Are you looking for more clues?

I see. But, as you said yourself, it could have been someone else with the password…

In one of the taped phone calls from jail (I tend to think it was the call when she was talking to Christina–or maybe Lee) one of them asked casey for the myspace password and she gave it to them. The public record deletes the actual password, obviously, but this conversation is online with the rest of the calls that were released. So Lee and probably the parents are the ones who had been logging in. However Casey is home now. She can now log in herself.

Good that you cleared that up Ain’titSo?!

Dak,
OK that’s done.

What I’ve found interesting on myspace are her friends’ sites. Obviously, many say things about Caylee.

But some say some NOT NICE things about Casey. Shows you what at least some of her friends think of her, just as the official police report also shows what friends think and said about her..,INCLUDING her best friend, who reported that Casey stole money from her.

I found the myspace pages of friends, etc. on the scaredmonkeys forum. Also, that forum has the posts from Cindy’s and Casey’s myspace sites before they were set to private or shut down. The one from Casey that ends in “Everyone lies, Everyone dies” is creepy.

Dak,
Why have they been having prayer vigils (including today) if they know the friend that has Caylee?

Padillo just needs another week because his first week is nearly up.

Jade — yes it is. Have you read the entire post? It’s in the form of a poem.

Thank you for posting that Concerned–nice of you to share.

I won’t analyze this poem now, but at first glance I would say that the tone is sardonic. I think she is repeating all the things she has been told, then summarizes with her belief about life, “Everyone Lies/Everyone Dies.”

This is not quality poetry of course, but it does have a haunting quality to it.

just tried to find anything on the news about this new story with BH and about some fight mom and casey had. But remember the friend or neighbor who came on the airwaves in defense of the family,(don’t see her anymore)… but she said when the vacation was planned with mom and dad, casey just planned on spending time with caylee while grandparents were gone, and she specifically said there was NO FALLING OUT her exact words, I remember (nancy grace).. between the family at this time.. and,everything was just fine. they were leaving and casey would just bond with the child, so now this is interesting reading this new development you spoke of about hiding the child…

Cindy’s brother, Rick, says there WAS a “falling out” on July 15th, heard by the neighbors. He states that it was over Cindy finding out from their mother that Casey had stolen the money from her grandfather’s (Cindy’s father whom they visited that day)nursing home account (apparently stole and cashed a check that even her grandmother couldn’t cash herself–or wasn’t supposed to be able to) and had said that it was for a work project and that she had intended to pay it back. Cindy’s and Rick’s mom was trying to get Cindy to do something about (turn Casey in)but Cindy wouldn’t. There was a riff going on with Cindy and her mother as well as the riff between her and Casey, according to Cindy’s brother Rick. That “falling out” did happen on July 15 after the nursing home visit, according to him.

Ain’titSo? Why doesn’t this surprise me? I would be willing to bet that Cindy and George have been covering up for Casey for a long time. I’m sure Casey was banking on this kind of support from her parents. Personally I would have stayed in jail rather than go home to my parents because I know they would not cut me any slack at all and would be totally focused on making my life miserable so that I would give in and tell the truth. Then again, I would not be in this situation. Still, if her parents know more than they are saying, then they are accessories after the fact. They may be trying to “fix” this on their own like they have fixed everything else for Casey.

Personally, I hope some loving family has her. The Anthonys do not deserve this precious child. The Anthony family is so dysfunctional that they would probably turn Caylee into another Casey. To me, this is a preferable scenario to Caylee being dead. I would think that if she is “kidnapped” or with a babysitter, someone certainly would have come forward for the reward by now. If the Anthonys are keeping information from the authorities, they too should pay the price for their deception.

Jade said,in August 25th, 2008 at 1:11 pm
“Still, if her parents know more than they are saying, then they are accessories after the fact. They may be trying to “fix” this on their own like they have fixed everything else for Casey.”

And the parents and the spokeman, and even Padilla all say that she is giving up a lot of info now that she is home. So why don’t the authorities know this info? Why hasn’ the FBI or the local detectives been given this new info that Casey is so freely giving now? Or did she give all the info to Baez last Friday during the 6 hours they counseled so that he could prepare her defense?
Casey had 35 days of nothing to do in jail but think up scenarios to support her babysitter-stole-her (dog-ate-homework) story. She’s learned this over a lifetime of getting her way by lying. She’s good. But now it’s no mom and dad and friends she is lying to. And it’s not just a cell phone she lost. Or money she has stolen from mom that mom will replace from a 401K and go bankrupt.

But Jade—If those parents have been told what happened to Caylee and they haven’t given that info to police, then they should be (and may be yet) prosecuted, too.

I doubt she has given up any truth at all. Maybe some new lies, but she’s not tired enough yet of this game she is playing. I doubt she will get tired of it at all. O look for her to play it until trial when there’s nowhere else to go.

Concerned -
Good insights into the “poem.” I’ll take a closer look at it and see what I can make of it. I agree with you though that it does seem like a list of sorts, something for herself or perhaps a justification.

Ain’titSo? -
I wouldn’t put it past the parents to keep things from the police. They have stated publicly that they would and are doing so. If the Anthonys are hiding something critical to the case I hope they through the book at them!

Jade,
I read several times that George had been fired from his position in law enforcement. No way to confirm, of course.

You’re probably right. Casey could has something on the parents. Or something they’re all participants of.

I remember reading a post from Casey’s myspace where she’s asking her brother to buy beer for Caylee’s first birthday celebration. She said her Mom promised to provide “tons” of wine and wine coolers, but Casey was underage as well as needed $$ to buy beer.

She also indicated she needed to be drinking because she couldn’t stand the idea of facing her Dad all day long without alcohol. It was said in a knowing way, such as “you know how he gets” or “how he is.”

First, that’s odd to me to have a drinking party for a one-year-old’s birthday celebration, but maybe I just live a different lifestyle. But the comment about the Dad really makes you wonder.

Did not sound like a family happy to celebrate the very life of this child. Also did not sound like the attention was focused on the child.

Concerned, I’m pretty sure I read that as well about George and his position in law enforcement. I too can’t believe these people had a drinking party for a one year old. But, again, we are not huge drinkers in our family, so I’m not familiar with that kind of behavior.

It’s hard going the weekend without an update on who is searching for Caylee or what’s happening at the Anthony home. I’m looking forward to watching Nancy Grace tonight, I just hope she’s back. As you can tell, I’m totally engrossed with this case.

Tell me if you don’t think that Cindy and George fit the example of enablers:

~ An enabler is someone who allows a loved one to behave in ways that are destructive. ~

I definitely feel that both George and Cindy enabled Casey to lie all her life. They probably were doing it out of what they thought was an act of love and protection of their “SWEETHEART” daughter. But, instead they contributed to her chronic lying problem. Casey never had to face any consequences, and here she is again with her parents continuing in the same path by accepting and enabling her horrible behavior.

I doubt very much if Cindy and George will ever be held responsible for lying to Law enforcement. Especially, if they ever find Caylee’s body. I’m sure the police will feel that the grandparents were in denial and suffered enough to learn the reality of Caylee’s death.

I always keep a shred of hope for Caylee, but it gets dimmer with each passing day.

Gotta say I though how ironic it was when I read this:

Cindy Anthony said her daughter wanted to visit with their supporters though. (Probably would have only been for all the attention they would have been giving her)

Isn’t that funny guys! Can’t believe she said that. When we all know differently about how her attention seeking far supercedes anything I have ever seen, except in patients with Munchauser by proxy syndrome. That was too much. Unbelievable!

You can’t believe how much empathy I had for Cindy when all this started. But hearing that she said Casey wants to meet with her supporters makes me want to vomit. It destroyed any ounce of respect that I had for Cindy. It’s all BIG FAT LIES!

I just read that the BH is saying that he knows who has Caylee and that he has given them a deadline to turn her over or he is going to go and retrieve her himself.He is now saying that Casey handed her off to a “Friend” because her mother was going to fight her for custody.My question is why give a deadline? this baby girl needs to be accounted for now not next week.

Don’t think you missed anything on the Nancy Grace show because there was little content. The could have given out the facts in five minutes and just chatted about things for the rest of the show. Oh wait. That’s what they did!

I found this on my space, off a webpage i added(to my own my space).. to help support where is caylee. On NG tonight just a brief reference was made to this story. I copied it from my space.

ORANGE COUNTY, Fla. (WOFL FOX 35, Orlando) — The Orange County sheriff’s office released 400 pages of discovery relating to the search for caylee Anthony Monday. The same day her mother, Casey Anthony, left home to meet with her home confinement case worker.

Here are some key facts from the discovery that have not been made public before.

This is part of Casey Anthony’s statement on July 16. Casey writes: “I left work around 5pm and went back to the apartment to pick up my daughter. However, after reaching the apartment, I realized that neither Zenaida, Caylee nor either of her two roommates were home. I have briefly met Raquel Farrell and Jennifer Rosa on various occasions. After calling Zenaida to see where she and Caylee were, and when they were coming home, I waited outside of the apartment. Casey goes on to say: “I had called zenaida earlier that morning prior to bringing caylee over for the afternoon. When I called her that afternoon, her phone was no longer in service.
”
Casey also writes in her statement she waited 2 hours for Zenaida and Caylee to come home.

Also on Monday Casey Anthony was near the Orange County jail to meet with her home confinement case worker.

She was taken there by the bounty hunter and his team who in discovery mode themselves.

An R.V. Parked outside the Anthony home is essential their mobile command center. When they’re not providing protection for Casey when she leaves her parents house their doing their own investigation into what happened to 3 year old caylee.

“There’s no Zanaida. That’s just a figment of her imagination. That’s just a quick excuse. One of her friends helped her move the child out of town.
”
That’s world famous bounty hunter Leonard Padilla’s most recent theory on what happened to little Caylee Anthony.

For the past week Padilla’s team has spent hours on computers sifting through tips and doing their research. They just finished going through Casey’s cell phone records.

“Spent all weekend on it. There’s nothing out of the norm, it’s repeated calls calling the same people. That’s why our thinking is who did she call that helped her move the child.
”
Padilla says his team’s research shows Casey’s circle of friends consists of about 15 people…but he’s focusing on specific friends. “The people that left town between the 16 of June and the 16 of August.
”
Between now and Friday Padilla says he expects to know where each friend traveled.

On Friday he’ll start tracking them down and asking questions “Was there a little girl with so and so who went to New York…who went to Puerto Rico.
”
Padilla says he’s not sharing notes with investigators and he’s not getting in their way.

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Concerned -
It is possible that Anthony wrote that poem as she was coming to some sort of resolution. I can see that. It’s like she is differentiating herself and what she believes and wants from everything she has been told she should believe and want. For any young person, this is a turning point moment. Generally though people come to a resolution to be a better person or set life-long goals for themselves. In Anthony’s case, it seems more a quiet resolve to let go of everything but a few negative points that she can embrace.

Either my computer is more sqrewed up than I thought or noone is posting?

Well Kris, we are posting. I posted 10 minutes before you did, and before that also… Where have you been? :o)

I’m glad you posted the interview Bronte. No need to apologize! It seems that this family is more messed up than we could have imagined.

You know the whole adoption issue is coming up. And I’m thinking that they should have let Casey place Caylee up for adoption if she didn’t want to be a mother. Her parents probably felt that her “motherly” instincts would kick in when she had the baby, but apparently that’s not the case. Adoption is a responsible thing to do when one isn’t in a position to have a child. Maybe forcing her to have the child contributed to the problems that no doubt already existed. What do you think?

I think my computer is in serious need of a reformat. Everything shows up well after the fact, along with other issues it has going on too. I know it is all happening because I cruise those sites in the UK and Portugal on Madeleine Mccann. ARRRGGGHHHH!

cw, And you changed your name because…?

Better yet…What was your screen name previous?

It has many other issues since my fiance’ played with a repair program. It is almost like it definitely needs reformatting. Other major issues going on.

I was thinking the same thing Kris. But I don’t know if it’s worth the time to figure it out… I’m sure there is a reason for t he name change though.

Is everyone still using this blog? Or have they moved on? Like Therapist, Mandi, Catherine, Dak?

Concerned has been here recently, as well as Concerned. I haven’t seen Catherine though. What’s the deal, do people move to another site or something? I was wondering that earlier.

Just a weird post I thought. Wonder if Casey is cruising through here? After all if she is on the computer (which we already know), she could be checking out theories, and what people think of her….B**ch! Just in case I’m right.

Found it! It was printed recently…Haven’t checked out yet who is that forum. Might be worth having a look though. I might hit the hay now. It is alot later here than were this forum is from. I will check in both tommorrow for everyone. Link is below. Goodnight for now.

http://www.bloggernews.net/117396

I have been going back and forth on 4 different threads here on this same site–but never changed my name. Several of the others do that too. You can find us up top left side on some of the other articles. Great posts in all the threads.

cw a.k.a cat woman yesterday - also i’m female and from minnesota so it’s unlikely that i’m THAT mother!

isnt this an open public blog for anyone to comment - there been a few in here that have drifted from the original idea….

i’m just posting my comment, dont like dont read it - are you not all doing the same

and yea the mother is most likely searching the internet for info on this case and were all giving the mother/grandparents and media all the ideas…i’ve been reading other postings and posting as well (yea under different username/screen names - who care, it’s a public comment)

were all feeding into this just like the mother/grandparents wants us to do, were actually helping them if you can think of it in that way….yea i have no life here in my own little world so i’m going to seek out another’s….like i said it’s a sad world out there that this kind of thing can happen…to you to me… I AM IN NO WAY SHAPE OR FORM DEFENDING THAT FAMILY AND THEIR BEHAVIOR

what about all the ‘real’ missing children out there, wheres the news coverage on those…i just heard that two little ones where in a car at temps of over 70+ and the past away - are you going to be posting about that, i think in that case the mother was fed up with the kids and said go sit in the car to get them out of her hair, last summer there was several reports about parents who ‘forgot’ there kids in the car why they went to work/shopping (let me tell you it gets hot here in mn) what about all those story? have you heard of any of them…most likely not—-but you hear about this one Right!! we all take a small part in the blow up of the media/news coverage…it’s all about the big dollar sign

like i said, the ‘friend’ who has the little girl just needs to bring her home. and by no means possible let that family have any more contact with that child…. the mother needs to be locked away….and the grandparents too…my old saying is ‘what you do in the dark - always comes to the light’ it’s like when the shit hits the fan ….and it will, soon.

it’s all in due time

bring her home safe. that’s all i’m saying

so now were taking the grandmothers word now…hum the grandmother wanted action taken, any parent will say or do anything (as she has already proven)

i’ve been in that grandmothers position (nothing compared to this mind you) i had to call 911 on my own teenager, you’ll say anything (maybe not to that extream, but look at who were talking about) to get your kid help. the grandmother knew at that point the little girl was missing -Right the grandmother went over the top with saying that. if that was the case, then this case would be over and they would be looking for a body - the family has already sent the cops on a wild goose chase, why could that be said for the ‘it smells like a dead body in there’

who knows maybe i’m wrong….let’s hope that i’m not and that the little one is with a ‘friend’ out of state (hopefully not out of the country) and that ‘friend’ has heard and seen all that has taken place —for all we know the brother has the kid, unlikely but who knows at this point. the ‘friend’ is scared, they were paid big buck to keep here hidden from the grandparents and now all of this

in any case were some one goes missing and they believe they are dead the story always starts out that was ‘were looking for a body’ this one didn’t start out that way, not the way i see it…

i’m not dismissing anything at this point. you just have to read between the lines as in all of these sad cases

oh yea by the way, did anyone see a report about a missing woman was found in water - gee wonder what kind of media coverage or posting there going to do about her…. didn’t even know she was missing ’till her body showed up

gota make you wonder about cases like this

i’m just like all of you……i got sucked into this story and talking about it to anyone who will listen to me….

that family is sick for doing this (what ever it may be) to that child, i hope in all my hopes that the little girl is with a ‘friend’ and that she has not already gone to a better world/place

Speaking of other missing children I just heard not too long ago that the Amber Alert that was issued yesterday has been lifted and the little is back home safe.That is such wonderful news now if we can just get Caylee back (and many many more)we could all relax and celebrate for a moment.

i just read that casey wanted to give up the baby for adoption before she was born. and mom cindy would not let her

I want to say one more thing… I know, I know, you’re probably tired of hearing from me. But here goes;

The next time you listen to the Bounty Hunter speak, keep in mind that his story about “Casey giving Caylee to a friend” is not based on facts. The Bounty Hunter works for the defense and is strictly supporting the defense’s strategy and some of us are buying the story hook, line and sinker.

The Bounty Hunter and the defense team are NOT looking for the truth… they are looking to save their client from going to jail.

I rest my case! (For now anyway)

Hey, many of us went over to the new site that Kris suggested.

http://www.bloggernews.net/117396

Results Say Body Was Decomposing In Anthony’s Trunk
Much-anticipated results from the University of Tenn. Body Farm reveal that a
body was decomposing in the trunk of Casey Anthony, mother of missing
3-year-old, Caylee.

MORE DETAILS: http://www.wesh.com/tu/5AoqGDyrL.html

A deal is on the table for Casey to tell the police where the body is. The people in Florida are ready to lynch her.

She better take a long hot shower, because she is going back into cell #14.

Cindy, and George finally have to admit that Casey killed her own daughter. How very sad I feel for them, they loved Caylee with all their hearts.

BH says Caylee is dead.

My poem From Caylee to Mommy

Mommy
Why won’t you tell everyone where I am?
Everybody is looking for me
but they can’t find me
I’m right here where you left me mommy!

Can’t you hear me mommy?
I keep calling for you
But you keep turning away
I thought you would come back and get me
but you never came
I’m still here where you put me
but I don’t look the same!

Mommy why won’t you tell them where I am
I’m scared, I’m all alone
Why can’t I come home?
I miss my bed, and my doggies,
and grandma and pa pa too
My sandbox, and playhouse
I miss being with you too!

Mommy why did you leave me here?
What did I do?
Did I make you mad?
Did I make you sad?
Was I being bad?
I Love you mama and I don’t understand!

Why won’t you just tell them where I am?
You know where you left me
I saw you drive off
you didn’t even look back
I prayed to Jesus cause I was so scared,
And angels came and stayed with me
and they took me to this place called “Heaven”

It’s so beautiful here mama
There is angels and singing
And a man that says he is my Father
His name is Jesus
He said he loves me
And nobody will ever hurt me here

I get to run, and play
There are so many kids here, and little babies too!
But I don’t see you and grandma and pa pa
I’ve looked everywhere for you!
I asked jesus If I could go visit you
And he said I have to wait for you
Until you die
but he said he doesn’t know if you will come to Heaven

he said you may go to hell
What’s hell mommy?
He said that you hurt me, and Jesus doesn’t like it
When people hurt children
But he said he will forgive you
If you ask him….but he said you have to mean it!
and he said he will know if you do
because he knows peoples hearts!

I told Jesus I loved you
and he smiled at me and said “I know you do my child”
She loved you too!
But she didn’t cherish you
he said you didn’t protect me!

He said his heart is Weeping for you!
he said he loves you mommy
He said He loves all his children!
He said you are lying,
and you won’t tell anybody
what you did to me!

He said you won’t tell them where you left me!
You won’t tell them what you did
he said you will get into a lot of trouble
If anyone finds out!

Just tell them mommy
Please show them where I am
So grandma and pa pa don’t worry anymore
Mommy why are you saying
You left me with Zanny!
Who is Zanny mama?

I don’t remember zanny
you said she was my nanny
What is a nanny mommy?
Why arn’t you crying?
Don’t you miss me mommy?
i miss you!

I love you so much
and wish I could come home
but Jesus said I have to stay here
Because this is where innocent children come

and Its beautiful mama
prettier than blanchard park
and many more things to do!
I get to run and play and sing
Laugh, and swim and swing!

I turned 3 here and the angels sang me Happy Birthday!
I sang with them too!
It was so beautiful mama and so loud
did you hear them sing to me?

Oh yeah mommy
there are animals here
doggies, and kitties
and horsies too
Jesus gave me my very own doggie
the very first day I came here!

He told me to take care of my doggie
and that he is my responsiblity
to love and care for him!

Mommy please tell them where you put me
and tell Jesus sorry
because if you don’t I will never ever
get to see you again!

i love you
and I miss you
I will never forget you mommy
or grandma and pa pa too!

Caylee Marie Anthony

Written by Michelle M Wambold