Comments on: MSM Stealing Blog Content: Times Joins Growing Trend? http://www.bloggernews.net/116945 High-quality English language analysis and editorial writing on the news. Wed, 25 Nov 2009 13:31:15 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: mondoreb http://www.bloggernews.net/116945#comment-440571 mondoreb Wed, 30 Jul 2008 13:49:52 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/116945#comment-440571 Shrugging Shoulders: <i>If content that an outlet paid to be produced can be stolen with attribution, then what is content worth that no one paid to have produced?</i> And bloggers have no costs? When a writer's livelihood comes from what he writes, he pays to produce content; i.e., the individual writer is bearing the cost. My costs are smaller than the NY Times, as is my revenue. Stiletto: Accurate and great defense of the article. Thanks! Thanks to all for stopping by, reading and taking the time to comment. Shrugging Shoulders:

If content that an outlet paid to be produced can be stolen with attribution, then what is content worth that no one paid to have produced?

And bloggers have no costs? When a writer’s livelihood comes from what he writes, he pays to produce content; i.e., the individual writer is bearing the cost. My costs are smaller than the NY Times, as is my revenue.

Stiletto: Accurate and great defense of the article. Thanks!

Thanks to all for stopping by, reading and taking the time to comment.

]]> By: The Stiletto http://www.bloggernews.net/116945#comment-439308 The Stiletto Tue, 29 Jul 2008 20:09:05 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/116945#comment-439308 If you stay within Fair Use guidelines (i.e., do not cut and paste entrie articles) and attribute the source of the material, you do not run afoul of copyright law. And linking to the entire article drives traffic to its original source, which translates into ad revenue. This is the case whether the person using material produced by someone else is a blogger or an employee of the MSM. If you stay within Fair Use guidelines (i.e., do not cut and paste entrie articles) and attribute the source of the material, you do not run afoul of copyright law. And linking to the entire article drives traffic to its original source, which translates into ad revenue. This is the case whether the person using material produced by someone else is a blogger or an employee of the MSM.

]]> By: Shrugging Shoulders http://www.bloggernews.net/116945#comment-439179 Shrugging Shoulders Tue, 29 Jul 2008 17:55:25 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/116945#comment-439179 For years bloggers have been taking work by the mainstream media without paying for it -- Drudge is by far the worst offender. The attitude has been, Hey, if access to the MSM web site is free, I'm free to republish it without compensating for it (again see Drudge). It doesn't matter that it's credited or attributed. And the argument continues: When they stop giving it away for free online and make readers pay, like they do in print, then we won't use MSM work to draw people to our own site (and make money off MSM links -- in Drudge's case, millions). So now the MSM is apparently taking you at your argument. Something paid to be produced professionally can be stolen WITH attribution, for redistribution by blogs through links to the MSM, if it's provided for free by the online publisher. Which means ... something that isn't paid to be produced? I.E. -- something that no professional news outlet paid a reporter to produce? Must have even LESS value and currency online. If content that an outlet paid to be produced can be stolen with attribution, then what is content worth that no one paid to have produced? For years bloggers have been taking work by the mainstream media without paying for it — Drudge is by far the worst offender. The attitude has been, Hey, if access to the MSM web site is free, I’m free to republish it without compensating for it (again see Drudge). It doesn’t matter that it’s credited or attributed. And the argument continues: When they stop giving it away for free online and make readers pay, like they do in print, then we won’t use MSM work to draw people to our own site (and make money off MSM links — in Drudge’s case, millions).

So now the MSM is apparently taking you at your argument. Something paid to be produced professionally can be stolen WITH attribution, for redistribution by blogs through links to the MSM, if it’s provided for free by the online publisher. Which means … something that isn’t paid to be produced? I.E. — something that no professional news outlet paid a reporter to produce? Must have even LESS value and currency online. If content that an outlet paid to be produced can be stolen with attribution, then what is content worth that no one paid to have produced?

]]> By: The Stiletto http://www.bloggernews.net/116945#comment-438781 The Stiletto Tue, 29 Jul 2008 12:14:48 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/116945#comment-438781 He's not talking about bylines. He's talking about attribution - two different things. If you are relying on someone else's reporting - as with quotes from an interview - you attribute the quotes to the publication or blog that published them. If you are quoting from another writer's work, you state that the words did not spring from your own mind and tell readers who you are quoting from. Otherwise, you are a plagiarist. He’s not talking about bylines. He’s talking about attribution - two different things. If you are relying on someone else’s reporting - as with quotes from an interview - you attribute the quotes to the publication or blog that published them. If you are quoting from another writer’s work, you state that the words did not spring from your own mind and tell readers who you are quoting from. Otherwise, you are a plagiarist.

]]> By: mark http://www.bloggernews.net/116945#comment-436891 mark Mon, 28 Jul 2008 14:06:50 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/116945#comment-436891 Put your cv out on the market and get a job. We'll listen to you here, but you won't get a by line without some accreditation. Suck it up and enjoy what you have along with your contributions. Put your cv out on the market and get a job. We’ll listen to you here, but you won’t get a by line without some accreditation. Suck it up and enjoy what you have along with your contributions.

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