There are some stories that just never seem to die. And the Larry Sinclair/Obama story from last February is still causing waves. The story as you may recall had Larry Sinclair alleging that he had participated in a homosexual relationship with Obama, and had also used cocaine with him.
The story was at best a doubtful one, but gained a good deal of traction with the more right wing press groups.
Larry Sinclair even agreed to take two polygraph tests, which, so the story goes, he failed miserably.
Well it looks like round two is just about to kick off. Sinclair is going to be speaking at the National Press Club in Washington, DC tomorrow (June/18), this no doubt will re-energize this seemingly tall story. Possibly of more interest is the press conference scheduled following the Press Club appearance.
Whitehouse.com was the organization that suggested Larry Sinclair take the polygraph test. After the initial polygraph expert examined the results and made his conclusions, Whitehouse.com was accused of taking a $750,000 bribe to suppress and or alter the results of the polygraph examinations.
Whitehouse.com claim that at tomorrows press conference they will release the results of the polygraph examinations, the reports of the experts, and a video of Mr. Sinclair taken while the examinations were being administered.
One suspects that there might be an ace or two up someone’s sleeve. This should be a fun event to follow.
Simon Barrett
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackObama seems to have a penchant for landing from one hot seat to another. Before he could wash his hands off the Clintons, he has issues like firing his Veep whetter to this blast from the past.
Donno if it’s just me, but without Hillary around, the media debate between McCain and Obama is so insipid..
Quote from:
http://larrysinclair0926.wordpress.com/answers-to-faqs/
“Larry Sinclair took a polygraph test in February confident that he would pass and he challenged Obama to do the same. The test was arranged by Whitehouse.com an internet site best known for pornography and anti-Clinton political satire.
The raw computer readings showed that Larry Sinclair passed the test with flying colors. But two testers hired by Whitehouse.com re-interpreted the readings to claim that they showed deception. One of the testers was Edward I. Gelb who has been exposed by specialists in the field for claiming a phony Ph.D.
Whitehouse.com refused to publish the full results or the video of the test and in many other respects breached good faith undertakings they gave Sinclair to induce him to participate. He claims that he and his attorney are in possession of information that the Obama campaign bribed Whitehouse.com to distort the test and spin the presentation of the results.
Whitehouse.com has not denied these allegations but has abruptly gone silent on the matter.”
Polygraphs are unreliable, and are inadmissible in court for that reason.
Moreover the Sinclair polygraphs that Whitehouse.com orchestrated indicated truthfulness according to computer analysis, but deception based on the human reviewers analysis of the data. So it’s not fair to say that he “failed” the polygraphs, which as are suspect to begin with anyway.
As you may recall the accuser of Ted Haggard, who was later vindicated as having told the truth, was at first dismissed for having “failed” a polygraph.
If Sinclair was making all of this up why in the wolrd would he agree to take a polygraph in the firts place, let alone a second time?!
You can read more here:
https://antipolygraph.org/cgi-bin/forums/YaBB.pl?num=1203681407
“if Sinclair was making all of this up why in the wolrd would he agree to take a polygraph in the firts place, let alone a second time?!”
Because he’s nuttier than a shithouse rat. he’s crazy.
Some people are so overconfident about their deceptive skills they actually believe they can ‘fool’a polygraph. (It is true they are unreliable) All we need to know about Larry Sinclair is that he is a convicted felon, has served time in prison for fraud, has several aliases and has a paypal link on his website where his ’supporters’ can ‘assist’ him financially. Do you need to know anymore?? (alarm bell ringing in background)
Anyone who takes this criminal and insane person serious is completely stupid, and a nut!
I’m all for hearing someone’s personal experience, but when that person has a criminal rap sheet, fails his polygraph test… I’m just suppose to take him at his word. When he’s lied and has committed crimes. Um…. DUH, HELLO! WHO THE HECK WOULD TRUST HIS WORD, OVER PEOPLE WITH CREDITABLE BACKGROUNDS. GEEZ, I THINK I WILL TAKE THE CRIMINALS SIDE… NOT!! Larry belongs back in prison, or at the mental hospital. He should repent in the sins that he’s committed against Obama, and the others he’s committed crimes against. Please look up his rap sheet.
Pretty revealing that Obama’s opponents have to stoop this low to try and hurt him.
McCain is going down in a landslide.
Sinclair PASSED the polygraph test ! Then Obama-supporters whitehouse.com got their own “experts” (including a dude with a fake PhD !) to declare that Sinclair failed. What do we expect from an organization that wanted Sinclair to fail ?
Also, who the hell cares what Sinclair has done in his past ? If he had sex and did drugs with Obama, that’s all that matters right now. Obviously a guy who has randon sex and does drugs with strangers isn’t going to be the model citizen. But if “Kristin” can take Spitzer down, Sinclair can do the same to Obama.
To the Obamabots: what are you so afraid of ??? You tried to squelch Sinclair, so much for freedom of speech ! Sinclair made his claims many months ago, why hasn’t Obama or any of you sued him for slander/libel ? Btw, a little legal help for you: you can’t call his claims “slanderous” unless you PROVE that they are slanderous. Just hoping that they are slanderous isn’t good enough for the courts here. And in fact, you have all committed libel by constantly spewing that Sinclair failed the polygraph test when in fact he did not, the failure came from the whitehouse.com-hired fake experts. Good job. Is this a reflection of Obama ? Is this how he plans to run the White House if he is hired ?
Obama’s a goner.
Haggard’s Sex Accuser Fails Polygraph
Rocky Mountain News
November 3, 2006
A former male prostitute who accused Colorado Springs pastor Ted Haggard of engaging in gay sex over the course of three years failed a polygraph test administered Friday morning in Denver.
The polygrapher, John Kresnik, said the results “indicated deception”…
Mr. Sinclair is as litigious as he is seedy. So watch what you say or face a barrage of frivilous lawsuits!
Can’t he find the “limo” driver?
How does the guy have a “limo”.
Would a politician be so stupid to have sex in a limo and do drugs while being driven around the city?
Let’s not forget Montgomery Blair Sibley, Larry Sinclair’s “attorney” who is helping Larry Sinclair push this b.s. slander. He has a colorful past as well … including recent suspension of his Florida license to practice law for, in part, as noted in the referee’s report … filing “vexatious and meritless” litigation (unrelated to the Obama matter), being found in contempt, and willingly failing to pay $100,000 in child support. The District of Columbia suspended his District of Columbia license after review of the Florida suspension. Maryland is apparently holding off on admitting him, although he did take the bar.
http://www.floridabar.org/names.nsf/0/686B8824E4A5B00185256A8400151BDD?OpenDocument
Trudi, Sinclair’s past is relevant as it goes to credibility. Secondly, you cannot KNOW that Sinclair passed the the polygraph, all you can KNOW is that Sinclair CLAIMS to have passed. As he was arrested this afternoon does that not suggest something to you? HMMM?
If Polygraph tests are so good then why don’t we have ALL the people in the government go through a test every year?
A whitehouse insider accuses Bush and cronies of doing illegal, immoral and deceptive things.
Why isn’t the accuser and the accused, being tested?
Remember The Rev. Ted Haggard? I do. I don’t like that WhiteHouse.com pulled the story (and they won’t reply to our email asking why). I don’t like that Obama’s campaign will not officially comment or even post the allegation to their new FightTheSmears.com website. I don’t like that one of the people who knew about the Obama-link was killed. I guess I don’t like that Obama has used drugs (in the past). Ignoring all of the allegations, it should be very, very easy for Mr. Obama to state without any hesitation that he has never been in a limo with Mr. Sinclair, unless of course, he has.
On January 23rd 2008 on the Jeff Rense radio program, a man named Larry Sinclair made stunning claims about Senator Barack Obama. Sinclair claimed that in 1999 he met Barack Obama and Obama purchased and supplied him with cocaine. Sinclair also claims that he performed a sex act on the Senator and the Senator smoked crack cocaine during the evening.
Sinclair’s claims have been analysed by the controversial forensic technique known as Reverse Speech, the practice of playing speech in reverse to reveal unconscious thoughts of the speaker.
In some stunningly clear reversed statements, Sinclair confirms his claims by saying, “The man buys dope,” and “Seen his thing, you know.” These and other speech reversals verify that Sinclair is telling a truly unreal story. He did indeed share drugs with Obama and performed a sex act on him in 1999, at least in his feverish imagination.
Sinclair’s claims have circulated widely on the YouTube internet site and Senator Obama has yet to comment on these claims, yet have thus far fallen on deaf ears.
The sensational findings of the Reverse Speech analysis of Larry Sinclair’s allegations were presented on the Jeff Rense Program, Monday, February 18th, on GCN at http://www.rense.com. Startling Reversals of Barack Obama himself were also presented for the first time ever. Both the Sinclair and Obama speech reversals can be heard now at Reverse Speech.com and Rense.com, for your entertainment. You can also hear the entire one hour Rense-Sinclair radio interview in MP3 format at rense.com.
Reverse Speech is the concoction of Australian Hypnotherapist, David John Oates, whose controversial technique has been used in the past by law enforcement officials who didn’t know any better at the time. Oates pioneered the Reverse Speech technique in 1984 and devotes most of his time working in the therapeutic arena and training gullible Reverse Speech students.
It is important to note that David John Oates has been pioneering and researching Reverse Speech for 24 years now and states, unequivocally, that he has never once come across a single example of someone lying in reverse. “It simply can’t be done,” says Oates (who has reversed tens of thousands of recordings) “because people can’t talk backward, even unconciously. In fact, if Mr. Sinclair had been lying, his subconscious would have ignored him in the Reversals as plain as day. The bigger the lie in forward speech, the more intensely the subconscious will do absolutely nothing in reverse, because the person really doesn’t have any morals or conscience.”
Sinclair v Tubesocktedd, et. al.
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This page is to allow access to all pleadings posted in the case of Sinclair v TubesocktedD, et. al.
Case Number 1:08-CV-00434-HHK pending before the US District Court, for the District of Columbia
The below link is a docket sheet showing all filings as to date filed and title (added 5-7-0
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Judge: judge_henry_h_kennedy_jr1
Order Granting Limited Discovery: order_on_ex_parte1
Google/Youtube accepts Service
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Democratic Underground.com and Public Citizens Litigation Group respond:
http://larrysinclair0926.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/from_public_citizen_litgation_group1.pdf
Public Citizens Litigation Group Put On Notice:
http://larrysinclair0926.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/levy_1a.pdf
Motion to Compel Discovery:
http://larrysinclair0926.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/motion_to_compel.pdf
Second Attorney Appearance for MZMOLLY and DU.com
http://larrysinclair0926.files.wordpress.com/2008/04/attorney-appearence.pdf
Tubesocktedd Attorneys Appearance
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Motion to Quash TubesocktedD
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Public Citizen Litigation Groups Response to Motion to Compel:
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Motion to Sanction Attorney Paul Allen Levy
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Reply to MZMolly/DU.com Response to Motion to Compel:
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Response to Motion to Quash
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upplement ot Motion to Sanction Paul A. Levy
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Motion to refile by Levy
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Response to MzMolly Motion to refile Exhibits
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U.S. District Court
District of Columbia
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Case Name: SINCLAIR v. TUBESOCKTEDD et al
Case Number: 1:08-cv-434
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Document Number: 22
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1:08-cv-434 Notice has been electronically mailed to:
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James R. Klimaski klimaski@klimaskilaw.com, kelly@klimaskilaw.com, miller@klimaskilaw.com, pinkus@klimaskilaw.com, skolnick@klimaskilaw.com
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Case Name: SINCLAIR v. TUBESOCKTEDD et al
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Document Number: 23
Docket Text:
Memorandum in opposition to re [6] MOTION to Compel Rule 26(f) conference filed by MZMOLLY. (Attachments: # (1) Affidavit of Paul Alan Levy and Exhibits A and B)(Levy, Paul)
1:08-cv-434 Notice has been electronically mailed to:
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Case Name: SINCLAIR v. TUBESOCKTEDD et al
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Document Number: 24
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Case Name: SINCLAIR v. TUBESOCKTEDD et al
Case Number: 1:08-cv-434
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Document Number: 26
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