Comments on: Global Warming Won’t Harm Great Tits

By: zippity

zippity — Thu, 15 May 2008 14:12:45 +0000

Stiletto: “The Stiletto thinks you should just put it all out there and let the bogus stuff be disproved and discredited.”

… which is what happened with intelligent design. Scientists looked it over, decided it was just another creationist rehash, and that’s that. But intelligent design was never really about science anyway, which is why the IDers are now aiming for school boards, state legislatures, and those so easily persuadable that even stuff like “Expelled” strikes them as thoughtful.

They failed their test, and are now trying to game the system.

By: The Stiletto

The Stiletto — Wed, 14 May 2008 21:29:00 +0000

Thanks, Mark! A free marketplace is self-regulating so you don’t need “tariffs” in the form of censorship. The Stiletto thinks you should just put it all out there and let the bogus stuff be disproved and discredited. Not talking about ID isn’t going to make it go away.

And as for The Smithsonian - refused to step foot in the place again since watching an educational film on the spirit of exploration that included this completely unsubstantiated sentence: “Unknown Africans may have gotten to the New World before either the Vikings or Columbus.” It’s not like The Smithsonian has never been intellectually dishonest.

By: Paul Burnett

Paul Burnett — Wed, 14 May 2008 17:32:15 +0000

Pity you didn’t mention http://www.expelledexposed.com - it exposes the many lies of “Expelled.”

By: Darron S

Darron S — Wed, 14 May 2008 15:11:00 +0000

Is there anywhere that I can find Crocker’s slides? I’d like to see what kind of ID info she was trying to slip into biology and judge the issue for myself.

I find it funny that the religious, who offer themselves up as the most honest and benign often tend to be the most unscrupulous and dishonest of the lot. I can understand and sympathize with a little honest ignorance, but movies like Expelled go flying into outright, straight-up, in-your-face lying to support a malicious agenda. And the target audience, who has been groomed to despise and distrust evolutionary theory, eats it up with zeal! Preach to the choir and keep them ignorant and under control. Gotta keep those coffers and pews full and minds empty.

By: Michael J

Michael J — Wed, 14 May 2008 12:21:48 +0000

Not to mention that Gonzalez did not have the output to deserve tenure by any measure. Crocker didn’t just mention “ID”, her slides would have embarrassed Ken Ham. This is the problem with documentaries of this type, if it satisfies somebodies prejudices, then they don’t look below the surface.

By: Bobxxxx

Bobxxxx — Wed, 14 May 2008 12:18:56 +0000

Ben Stein is a professional liar who knows nothing about biology.

Intelligent design creationism is a childish belief in magic. Only uneducated religious nuts believe in it. People who prefer intelligent design magic instead of science deserve to be ridiculed and laughed at.

By: GrantLaFleche

GrantLaFleche — Wed, 14 May 2008 04:55:26 +0000

That should have never “never threatened or had his keys taken away.” Stupid typo.

By: GrantLaFleche

GrantLaFleche — Wed, 14 May 2008 04:54:33 +0000

Richard Sternberg was unpaid research volunteer at the Smithsonian. He was never an employee. He wasn’t even fired or kicked out of that gig. The term of his volunteer position simply expired. He was threatened or had his keys taken away. He was given a new card-key pass and asked to turn in the old, now useless keys.

In fact, ever detail of how the Sternberg case is presented in Expelled is wrong. You really should pay more mind to the details about such things before trumpeting them as facts.

By: Mark Mercer

Mark Mercer — Wed, 14 May 2008 02:19:43 +0000

Stiletto–I’m not even going to try to add to the hilarity and cleverness of your opening comments. Global warming, globasl cooling, whatever… “A thing of beauty is a joy forever,” and let’s just leave it at that.
As for the scientific Inquisition you have spotlighted, an interesting historical reversal has emerged. For hundreds of years the most serious persecution of scientific pioneers was spearheaded (sometimes quite literally) by the church. Now the persecution is led by other “scientists” who, according to the scientific standards you have articulated, should know better. Thus, as history marches on, blackboot style, Darwin appears to have gotten everything backward: If scientists of today are acting with the same dogmatic, closeminded ruthlessness of medieval religionists, isn’t this evidence that the human race is DEVOLVING?