I understand. I just read some of the links you provided. It has lot of information and I see the opinions of a lot of the “pregressive”. Too much that I probably only read 1%.

The problem is that we’re all so busy and our profession is not in politics, it is hard for us to get down to the bottom of the things.

I had some bias against American political system, but after I attend the 4-9 SF torch relay and talked to a lot of people with opposite views nicely/peacefully, I realized my bias and was able to correct a little bit. That is the power of doing thing in real rather than watch TV or movies.

Unfortunately again, most people have limited time and are bound to fall victim to corporate propaganda, without realizing it. (probably not that bad)

Talk to you tomorrow.

First of all, I’m just curious, are you a professional in social science or just a seasoned amateur thinker or history lover? Myself, as a physicist, has a pastime interested in history and world politics. I also pay close attention to Chinese politics as a Chinese.

The reason I ask this question is because I start to believe that there will always be a substantial population, probably in any culture, that could not be rationally communicated. They are like a prize, in this country, sought after by the politicians (who have vastly more information, resources, and experience, and are also unfortunately smart) for their voting power.

In a sense, among the more “enlightened”, the answers are significantly clear, but they might not say it. They will use the “code word” to communicate among themselves.

For the “unenlightened”, your questions might look strange and unnecessary (who cares), so no answer either.

I don’t think most of Americans will be more informed with China or Tibet with this wave of protests/counter protests. Besides the notion of tainted toys or free Tibet, who cares about China.

Now I’m going to read you links. Do you have any blog yourself? I would not believe it if you said you don’t have one.

I can go on and on, as you can see that we do not have a fair and balanced media! Instead of honestly dealing with the many problems that exist in our own political and financial systems, we have a media that is trying to shift the attention of our people away so our politicians and our money-hungry corporations gets off the hook and go on doing their things unnoticed.
Furthermore, most of the information on China and Tibet issues that are presented by the media are so shallow and superficial which does disservice to all people involved and history. I have a couple of links below that are more informative:

http://journeyeast.tripod.com/myth_and_reality.html

http://www.commondreams.org/archive/2008/04/14/8287/

I come to learn this that arguing with dummies make you a dummie.

Ultimately, the igorance in the grassroot leads to wars. Look at what happened with Iraq. I think CNN has blood in its hand.

I know both China and America. I don’t think China is any better than America in terms of basic human nature of the people and the politics of the government. Neither is America much better than China. Maybe China is not so free, but maybe in the US everything is controlled by the rich and powerful and lot of racial problems.

This web site is leading its readers to believe that this company has a chance under US libel laws of taking action agaisnt CNN. It will be thrown out.

Can we please, get out of hock to China and buy our goods elsewhere? I am sick of this pyschotic totalitarian bullying prattle. from china.org.cn:

http://www.china.org.cn/china/local/2008-04/21/content_14989063.htm

Shanghai Zhenhua Port Machinery Co required CNN anchor Jack Cafferty to look at its port machines installed at ports in the United States and said it would sue him should he repeat his anti-China remarks again.

The Shanghai-listed company publicized an open letter on its Website, becoming the first Chinese company to protest Cafferty’s prejudice towards China.

The company demanded Cafferty “take a look” at its products.

“The east coast and west coast of the United States have already purchased about 200 large container handling machines. The high efficiency of the machines enables trillions of US dollars worth of products to be imported and exported,” the letter said.

The letter repudiated the assertion that Chinese products were “junk,” adding that the “ignorance” of Cafferty infuriated the company’s 400 workers.

If Cafferty continues his hostility toward China, the company will “immediately hire a lawyer in the United States to sue him for libel,” the letter said.

The fact that Yale doesn’t have a philosphy department with the slightest hint if sanity doesn’t help the law school students either. I doubt the Soros fellows are even aware of the roots of his philosophy. It’s been obvious to me for years that the law school could benefit from a solid philosophy department to compliment studies. I mean, just look at the wackos on the 2nd Circuit.

Anyway, back to meng’s column,

Meng tries mightily in her column to get us to let China off the hook this time, and promises if we do, is dead sure that if we do, we will be nurturing the vulnerable young flower of Chinese democracy, or some form of more just and open society there. But that trajectory is simply a fantasy and in any case, is not likely to attract many converts. If it doesn’t make sence Now, it doesn’t make sense.

Asking that people choose a course of action of precluding action and speech is sweet but a no starter. Please wait just a second, hold your breath just a second, something good is coming. Not many are going to agree that giving up commentary in the nation that invented the First Amendment is the best way to get anywhere.

As for the hackers who took down a cnn website and sports network website, which possibly ran through servers here in the US, if you step onto American soil, you could face federal criminal charges and a nice long prison stay in our infamous, overcrowded prison system.

It begs the question of what China ultimately plans to do about it - attack us with its army?
They’ve trashed Pelosi, trashed Hillary, trashed the French, trashed everyone in the world for not towing their line. As if it is undiplomatic to fail to be complicit in China’s ignoring of dozens of obvious elephants in every room of China’s elaborate totalitarian lie.

Their factories export deadly heparin, cough syrup, pet food and even kid’s toys.

On state visits here in the US, China operatives painstakingly videotape protesters for hours on the street who line up along the leader’s motorcade routes, to make a record of every single individual along that route and we let them do it. We let them spy on us.

They are prepared to shoot any mountaineer who is pro tibet on Everest this year to “protect” their disastrous torch relay, according to a news article published today.

What is next?

There is probably an entry in the DSM for what China’s political personality is, some kind of Totalitarian Personality Disorder.

Giving the olympics to beijing, i think most agree now, was a big mistake. this olympics is already a bad memory. If I were an athlete, I think I would be tortured with the moral issues involved with going. It wasn’t fair to put athletes in a position to strain to the breaking point our belief in convening at the olympics at all costs.

Disgusting.

As for Cafferty’s speech, it is protected by the First Amendment to the United States Constitution. CNN lambasts President Bush too. It’s called free speech. It is the First of our amendments because it is the most dear to us.

TO ask Americans to give up the First Amendment is the deepest insult possible. We say what we like and libel laws grant remedies for speech that goes to far. Lambasting journalists gnawing on political leaders or political ideologies not only isn’t illegal under our libel laws, our laws go out of their way to protect that kind of speech over all other kinds.

To the Chinese boycotting McDonalds and Kentucky Fried Chicken: THANK YOU from millions of Americans who are fed up with chain restaurants! You’re doing us a favor.

http://news.sohu.com/s2008/daguoqidu/

I assume you don’t read Chinese and can only get what the Chinese media “said” through non-Chinese sources. What you said was absolutely correct — though only partly. Unfortunately on this issue both the Chinese and non-Chinese are only looking for words that can be best used to get offended.

You are the only one saying that since you are a German you must be a Nazi - or show me the original Chinese source? Do not frame others’ thought — you simply do not have such an authority and, if you do, you are no better than the people you despise.

Cafferty didn’t say anything racist at all. I’m Chinese, but I’m an American first. America welcomed my parents with open arms and has been a wonderful country for my family.

Anybody who is offended is just looking to be offended. Lighten up.

Personally, I wouldn’t care too much about what Cafferty said per se. But CNN’s lame excuse and non-apology piss me off. Who do they think I am? Too stupid to be fooled around like that?

I think all the Chinese studying in America need to shut up and show a little gratitude. We let you come here and study, we even put up with all the spying you do. Stop acting like children.