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	<title>Comments on: Tiger Politics: Is AZA and Few Outspoken Individuals Representing the Views of the Majority of AZA Members?</title>
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		<title>By: timbalionguy</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-180412</link>
		<dc:creator>timbalionguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 07:09:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All the money spent on the captive husbandry of big cats would not even begin to be able to restore habit. It wouldn't even make difference that anyone would notice. We should count it lucky that we have what we have for in-situ conservation. I am not advocating defeatism here. The existing wild habitats left in this planet should be jealously protected and expanded if that is possible. But if a war or something similar should break out in some of these countries, the habitats that are in that country could be wiped out overnight in the name of human greed. Look what has happened in the Democratic Republic of Congo. With the vast area of that country, it is unknown how much of their wildlife is left after the warfare that is going on there.

There is no known way to stop human population growth given the state of most populations of people on this planet. Even thee most well-policed countires are still growing.

Captive husbandry is not a perfect answer, as these animals are designed to fill a particular role in a healthy ecosystem. This is something that is hard to duplicate, even approximately, in a captive setting. But, I don't think any reasonable person would say extinction is an acceptable alternative. (Groups like PETA actually say extinction is better than captivity!!!!!) We need lions and tigers in this world just as much as we need cows, pigs, horses, etc.

One of the reasons that top predators survive in the wild is they are extremely adaptable. Just like they can adapt to a changing environment or prey base, they can adapt to captivity if certain needs are met. As much as scientists have established the biological needs these animals have to have in captivity, caring owners have found how to meet their psychospiritual needs. These are just as important (if not more so) as proper diet, temperature range, etc. If both sets of needs are met, not only do these remarkable animals survive in captivity, they thrive in captivity.

Elle, you are very close to understanding what things are really like. What you need to do now is find a place where you can spend time with properly cared-for big cats. It will open up a world to you that you are probably now aware of-- one that will chage your life forever. You will quickly learn that we humans do not tame big cats; in fact, they tame us!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All the money spent on the captive husbandry of big cats would not even begin to be able to restore habit. It wouldn&#8217;t even make difference that anyone would notice. We should count it lucky that we have what we have for in-situ conservation. I am not advocating defeatism here. The existing wild habitats left in this planet should be jealously protected and expanded if that is possible. But if a war or something similar should break out in some of these countries, the habitats that are in that country could be wiped out overnight in the name of human greed. Look what has happened in the Democratic Republic of Congo. With the vast area of that country, it is unknown how much of their wildlife is left after the warfare that is going on there.</p>
<p>There is no known way to stop human population growth given the state of most populations of people on this planet. Even thee most well-policed countires are still growing.</p>
<p>Captive husbandry is not a perfect answer, as these animals are designed to fill a particular role in a healthy ecosystem. This is something that is hard to duplicate, even approximately, in a captive setting. But, I don&#8217;t think any reasonable person would say extinction is an acceptable alternative. (Groups like PETA actually say extinction is better than captivity!!!!!) We need lions and tigers in this world just as much as we need cows, pigs, horses, etc.</p>
<p>One of the reasons that top predators survive in the wild is they are extremely adaptable. Just like they can adapt to a changing environment or prey base, they can adapt to captivity if certain needs are met. As much as scientists have established the biological needs these animals have to have in captivity, caring owners have found how to meet their psychospiritual needs. These are just as important (if not more so) as proper diet, temperature range, etc. If both sets of needs are met, not only do these remarkable animals survive in captivity, they thrive in captivity.</p>
<p>Elle, you are very close to understanding what things are really like. What you need to do now is find a place where you can spend time with properly cared-for big cats. It will open up a world to you that you are probably now aware of&#8211; one that will chage your life forever. You will quickly learn that we humans do not tame big cats; in fact, they tame us!</p>
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		<title>By: Gloria</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-180250</link>
		<dc:creator>Gloria</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 06 Jan 2008 03:25:29 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-180250</guid>
		<description>Ellie, I ask you to please reread Zuzana's comments.  I would have said what she did but will not be repetitive.  But I will add this: you  must have a personal knowledge of tiger behavior before you comment on situations like Roy's.  If you understood tiger behavior you would know that they are solitary animals; however, when mating, if the female is injured, the male will drag her by the neck back to their den.  Animals in captivity change behavior in several ways and one is to have a "companion" that they need constant attention from, rather than just during mating.  Roy had a stroke, which I'm sure the animal sensed.  He dragged him backstage in front of at least 15 witnesses, put him down and went in his cage.  If he were "attacking" he would not have left the stage.  He would have held him by the neck long enough to know he was dead, and probably like most tigers do with prey would have "shook" him, spraying blood all over the audience.  You must have the knowledge and experience of a species' particular behavior before making assumptions.  From the first day I heard of this incident my reaction was "Roy must have stumbled", then we learned that he had a stroke, confirming my instincts.  This was not an attack, but a natural tiger reaction to a "mate's" trauma.

Regarding life in the wild:  it is no vacation.  Why do you think the big cats in captivity live up to 10 years longer.  They don't have to struggle every day just to survive; and if their owner is following federal guidelines they are given "enrichment" to keep them stimulated (they are very intelligent and constantly need new and interesting discoveries.)  Possibly why the "old school" zoo theories show animals that pace and "over groom" themselves until they have bald spots.  I used to think that circus tigers were the worst scenario.  I now know from over 10 years of working with them that these are the happiest.  They are constantly given new challenges and learning experiences.  The have an incredible bond with their trainer or this would never work!  This should be obvious, if you analyze their "mentality" and needs.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellie, I ask you to please reread Zuzana&#8217;s comments.  I would have said what she did but will not be repetitive.  But I will add this: you  must have a personal knowledge of tiger behavior before you comment on situations like Roy&#8217;s.  If you understood tiger behavior you would know that they are solitary animals; however, when mating, if the female is injured, the male will drag her by the neck back to their den.  Animals in captivity change behavior in several ways and one is to have a &#8220;companion&#8221; that they need constant attention from, rather than just during mating.  Roy had a stroke, which I&#8217;m sure the animal sensed.  He dragged him backstage in front of at least 15 witnesses, put him down and went in his cage.  If he were &#8220;attacking&#8221; he would not have left the stage.  He would have held him by the neck long enough to know he was dead, and probably like most tigers do with prey would have &#8220;shook&#8221; him, spraying blood all over the audience.  You must have the knowledge and experience of a species&#8217; particular behavior before making assumptions.  From the first day I heard of this incident my reaction was &#8220;Roy must have stumbled&#8221;, then we learned that he had a stroke, confirming my instincts.  This was not an attack, but a natural tiger reaction to a &#8220;mate&#8217;s&#8221; trauma.</p>
<p>Regarding life in the wild:  it is no vacation.  Why do you think the big cats in captivity live up to 10 years longer.  They don&#8217;t have to struggle every day just to survive; and if their owner is following federal guidelines they are given &#8220;enrichment&#8221; to keep them stimulated (they are very intelligent and constantly need new and interesting discoveries.)  Possibly why the &#8220;old school&#8221; zoo theories show animals that pace and &#8220;over groom&#8221; themselves until they have bald spots.  I used to think that circus tigers were the worst scenario.  I now know from over 10 years of working with them that these are the happiest.  They are constantly given new challenges and learning experiences.  The have an incredible bond with their trainer or this would never work!  This should be obvious, if you analyze their &#8220;mentality&#8221; and needs.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-179267</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 06:22:00 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-179267</guid>
		<description>Ellie, when we cage animals, we are fighting a war for their survival.  Socializing them to live with humans is a way to make their survival not only possible but inevitable.  The vast majority of animals that humans own are happy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ellie, when we cage animals, we are fighting a war for their survival.  Socializing them to live with humans is a way to make their survival not only possible but inevitable.  The vast majority of animals that humans own are happy.</p>
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		<title>By: Zuzana Kukol</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-179167</link>
		<dc:creator>Zuzana Kukol</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 03:31:36 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-179167</guid>
		<description>Yes, the best way to help tigers is by protecting their habitat, I couldn't agree more. That would be the perfect scenario, but despite conservationists pouring millions into protecting tigers in their natural habitats, the animal's numbers are on steep decline every year.
Ellie, millions has been spent on wild tiger conservation, but it doesn’t seem to be working for many reasons: human population in India is increasing, native tiger habitat is decreasing.
India is poor country with many corrupt officials, so the money sent for conservation often doesn’t even reach the proper recipients. Even if it did, poachers can easily bribe the very guards that are supposed to be guarding the tigers.
 I'm getting tired of ignorant, naive people with little knowledge of the real conservation issues that affect wild tiger habitats. It's easy to repeat slogans and ask for protection, but the problem is nobody, so far, can offer workable solutions.

It's not any different than saying the obvious, that we all want cure for cancer. Of course we do. But how do we achieve it?

If the main problem here is that tiger habitat is disappearing, blame human encroachment and population boom. And the only ways to reverse those things are to ban human breeding or to kill humans living near tigers. Then the animals can reclaim habitat. Why don't we start in the United States with that. After all, the U.S. has endangered species in need of protection. That is, unless you have a better and more workable solutions. I'm all ears. Honest.

I wish to protect the wild tiger, but I'm the first one to admit I have no idea how to accomplish it, just like I don't have the cure for cancer. I'd rather see tigers survive in captivity than become extinct altogether. Let me offer a slogan: "Extinction is forever."

And yes, I own captive tigers and have for years. I believe you can offer an appropriate environment for captive tigers. Remember, all domestic animals were domesticated from wild cousins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yes, the best way to help tigers is by protecting their habitat, I couldn&#8217;t agree more. That would be the perfect scenario, but despite conservationists pouring millions into protecting tigers in their natural habitats, the animal&#8217;s numbers are on steep decline every year.<br />
Ellie, millions has been spent on wild tiger conservation, but it doesn’t seem to be working for many reasons: human population in India is increasing, native tiger habitat is decreasing.<br />
India is poor country with many corrupt officials, so the money sent for conservation often doesn’t even reach the proper recipients. Even if it did, poachers can easily bribe the very guards that are supposed to be guarding the tigers.<br />
 I&#8217;m getting tired of ignorant, naive people with little knowledge of the real conservation issues that affect wild tiger habitats. It&#8217;s easy to repeat slogans and ask for protection, but the problem is nobody, so far, can offer workable solutions.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s not any different than saying the obvious, that we all want cure for cancer. Of course we do. But how do we achieve it?</p>
<p>If the main problem here is that tiger habitat is disappearing, blame human encroachment and population boom. And the only ways to reverse those things are to ban human breeding or to kill humans living near tigers. Then the animals can reclaim habitat. Why don&#8217;t we start in the United States with that. After all, the U.S. has endangered species in need of protection. That is, unless you have a better and more workable solutions. I&#8217;m all ears. Honest.</p>
<p>I wish to protect the wild tiger, but I&#8217;m the first one to admit I have no idea how to accomplish it, just like I don&#8217;t have the cure for cancer. I&#8217;d rather see tigers survive in captivity than become extinct altogether. Let me offer a slogan: &#8220;Extinction is forever.&#8221;</p>
<p>And yes, I own captive tigers and have for years. I believe you can offer an appropriate environment for captive tigers. Remember, all domestic animals were domesticated from wild cousins.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellie</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-178883</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 20:27:50 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-178883</guid>
		<description>I agree that private big cat owners are not necessarily the untrained lay people that zoos and other 'accredited' institutions make them out to be.  Zoos should be subject to the same regulations that private owners are, and it should be stressed that an associates degree in exotic animal care and husbandry does not even begin to compare to the many years of experience and personal insights that some private big cat owners may have.  However, to say that the wild doesn't exist and is "going bye bye" is just ignorant, defeatist, and selfish.  If the considerable investment of money that zoos and private big cat owners put toward upkeep of their animals went toward protecting their habitat and helping their free cousins to continue to live on their own land and their own terms, then wilderness areas for big cats would not be disappearing.  What's more, the animals that people may not find so cute and endearing and personable, such as the deer and antelope, pigs and peccaries, howler monkeys and baboons, would not be losing their land and their lives as well.  

There is a war on wilderness going on.  It has been going on since some humans first separated themselves from the daily struggles of survival.  Wildness is viewed as worthless, dangerous, scary, something to be feared and fought, controlled and dominated.  

Big cats are wild.  That is a fact.  They were not domesticated thousands of years ago like dairy cows.  No one wants to domesticate big cats, not truly, because the whole reason people are fascinated with them is because they have the mystique of the wilderness about them.  It's because they remind people that we are not the top of the food chain and the rulers of the earth.  Wild animals, because of the very nature of what and who they are, need to be free.  Large carnivores, even more than other animals, have the need to be free.  Any big cat in a captive setting is a tragedy.  Unselfishly put yourself in their position for a moment.  They will never feel the thrill of the hunt, pushing their muscles and their minds to the breaking point to outwit and overpower that animal that they must kill in order to survive.  They will never have to search miles of forest for a scent on the air known only to them in order to find their mate.  They will never have to impress them and then fight to keep them.  These things that make life worth living are forever taken away from them.  Why?  Because their keepers "love" them.  Because "it's for their own good."  Because there's no place left for them to go because people and institutions are too selfish to spend money on protecting wilderness that they may never personally see.  What kind of love is that?

The difference between a big cat in the wild and a big cat in captivity is incredibly striking.  It's like looking at a prisoner of war compared to a mythical ancient greek warrior.   In reality, these captive big cats are prisoners of war.  Their homes are being destroyed, those of their kind continually being shot, poisoned, trapped, caged, sold, and shipped to foreign lands.  Though they may be given "good food and water, adequate caging with adequate space" just like any half-civilized country would give their prisoners of war, that does not change the hard truth of their situation.  You can tell from a glance at the muscle tone, the scars on the fur, the look in the eyes, the world of difference between a cat that has truly lived, and the shallow, "picture in a magazine"-type wild cat in a cage.  

I do not advocate for a world without animals or a world without human contact with animals, but only for a world where people think not only about ourselves but for other species as well, where we actively restrain ourselves from destroying and dominating every last scrap of wild land and with it the livelihoods of wild animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I agree that private big cat owners are not necessarily the untrained lay people that zoos and other &#8216;accredited&#8217; institutions make them out to be.  Zoos should be subject to the same regulations that private owners are, and it should be stressed that an associates degree in exotic animal care and husbandry does not even begin to compare to the many years of experience and personal insights that some private big cat owners may have.  However, to say that the wild doesn&#8217;t exist and is &#8220;going bye bye&#8221; is just ignorant, defeatist, and selfish.  If the considerable investment of money that zoos and private big cat owners put toward upkeep of their animals went toward protecting their habitat and helping their free cousins to continue to live on their own land and their own terms, then wilderness areas for big cats would not be disappearing.  What&#8217;s more, the animals that people may not find so cute and endearing and personable, such as the deer and antelope, pigs and peccaries, howler monkeys and baboons, would not be losing their land and their lives as well.  </p>
<p>There is a war on wilderness going on.  It has been going on since some humans first separated themselves from the daily struggles of survival.  Wildness is viewed as worthless, dangerous, scary, something to be feared and fought, controlled and dominated.  </p>
<p>Big cats are wild.  That is a fact.  They were not domesticated thousands of years ago like dairy cows.  No one wants to domesticate big cats, not truly, because the whole reason people are fascinated with them is because they have the mystique of the wilderness about them.  It&#8217;s because they remind people that we are not the top of the food chain and the rulers of the earth.  Wild animals, because of the very nature of what and who they are, need to be free.  Large carnivores, even more than other animals, have the need to be free.  Any big cat in a captive setting is a tragedy.  Unselfishly put yourself in their position for a moment.  They will never feel the thrill of the hunt, pushing their muscles and their minds to the breaking point to outwit and overpower that animal that they must kill in order to survive.  They will never have to search miles of forest for a scent on the air known only to them in order to find their mate.  They will never have to impress them and then fight to keep them.  These things that make life worth living are forever taken away from them.  Why?  Because their keepers &#8220;love&#8221; them.  Because &#8220;it&#8217;s for their own good.&#8221;  Because there&#8217;s no place left for them to go because people and institutions are too selfish to spend money on protecting wilderness that they may never personally see.  What kind of love is that?</p>
<p>The difference between a big cat in the wild and a big cat in captivity is incredibly striking.  It&#8217;s like looking at a prisoner of war compared to a mythical ancient greek warrior.   In reality, these captive big cats are prisoners of war.  Their homes are being destroyed, those of their kind continually being shot, poisoned, trapped, caged, sold, and shipped to foreign lands.  Though they may be given &#8220;good food and water, adequate caging with adequate space&#8221; just like any half-civilized country would give their prisoners of war, that does not change the hard truth of their situation.  You can tell from a glance at the muscle tone, the scars on the fur, the look in the eyes, the world of difference between a cat that has truly lived, and the shallow, &#8220;picture in a magazine&#8221;-type wild cat in a cage.  </p>
<p>I do not advocate for a world without animals or a world without human contact with animals, but only for a world where people think not only about ourselves but for other species as well, where we actively restrain ourselves from destroying and dominating every last scrap of wild land and with it the livelihoods of wild animals.</p>
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		<title>By: timbalionguy</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-178283</link>
		<dc:creator>timbalionguy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 06:54:05 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-178283</guid>
		<description>People like Roy Horn and other dedicated keepers of large felines *are* the experts. There is really no school in existence that teaches someone how to be a good big cat keeper other than the experience of other dedicated keepers who love their cats. Sure, there are places that offer degrees in animal husbandry, animal behavior, etc. I have met people from these schools. These are the same kinds of people that tend to inhabit places like AZA zoos. They tend to treat the tiger, etc. like a scientific specimen. They can tell you how many grams of each amino acid they need in their diet each day, but they have never scratched a tiger's cheek, because that would be 'imprinting'. Unfortunately, it is these folks that are recognized as the 'experts', and not the people who take loving care of their animals, and share a special bond with them.

The actual mechanics of caring for big cats is fairly simple compared to many other exotic animal species. It is something that a serious animal lover can learn readily without extensive schooling, etc. Give the cats good food and water, adequate caging with adequate space (and it really isn't that much for  big cats. Wolves, for instance require at least ten times the space of a lion to be happy and well adjusted) and some reasonable vet care, etc. Then, lavish the cat with love from you or others of its own kind. The result will be happy cats, and cats happy to carry on the job of propagating their kind just as well as their wild brethern. And the best part of all? They will lavish you with their love, and there is nothing that can substitute for lion love, tiger love, etc. in this entire world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like Roy Horn and other dedicated keepers of large felines *are* the experts. There is really no school in existence that teaches someone how to be a good big cat keeper other than the experience of other dedicated keepers who love their cats. Sure, there are places that offer degrees in animal husbandry, animal behavior, etc. I have met people from these schools. These are the same kinds of people that tend to inhabit places like AZA zoos. They tend to treat the tiger, etc. like a scientific specimen. They can tell you how many grams of each amino acid they need in their diet each day, but they have never scratched a tiger&#8217;s cheek, because that would be &#8216;imprinting&#8217;. Unfortunately, it is these folks that are recognized as the &#8216;experts&#8217;, and not the people who take loving care of their animals, and share a special bond with them.</p>
<p>The actual mechanics of caring for big cats is fairly simple compared to many other exotic animal species. It is something that a serious animal lover can learn readily without extensive schooling, etc. Give the cats good food and water, adequate caging with adequate space (and it really isn&#8217;t that much for  big cats. Wolves, for instance require at least ten times the space of a lion to be happy and well adjusted) and some reasonable vet care, etc. Then, lavish the cat with love from you or others of its own kind. The result will be happy cats, and cats happy to carry on the job of propagating their kind just as well as their wild brethern. And the best part of all? They will lavish you with their love, and there is nothing that can substitute for lion love, tiger love, etc. in this entire world.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-177985</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 04 Jan 2008 00:51:12 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-177985</guid>
		<description>Forgot to mention:  10,000 tigers in the U.S. proves that people can raise tigers and conserve the species.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Forgot to mention:  10,000 tigers in the U.S. proves that people can raise tigers and conserve the species.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-177877</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 23:08:39 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-177877</guid>
		<description>Actually, every state in the United States should legally protect the right to own a tiger or other animal.  If there were actually 10,000 tigers in the United States, and that doesn't seem like half enough, it would be true also that keeping tigers has a safety record comparable to keeping horses.  Lions and other big cats would have to be listed as even safer, and most other "exotics" don't even register as dangerous because they don't kill anyone.

People who argue that the animals "should be wild" do so in bad faith, because there is no such thing as the wild.  It's going bye-bye.  They argue about the danger and exaggerate its importance as part of an agenda to rid the world of the animals, not as part of any human safety agenda.  Anyone should be able to figure that out when the same people that argue that animals are bad for humans also argue that humans are not good enough to live with animals.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually, every state in the United States should legally protect the right to own a tiger or other animal.  If there were actually 10,000 tigers in the United States, and that doesn&#8217;t seem like half enough, it would be true also that keeping tigers has a safety record comparable to keeping horses.  Lions and other big cats would have to be listed as even safer, and most other &#8220;exotics&#8221; don&#8217;t even register as dangerous because they don&#8217;t kill anyone.</p>
<p>People who argue that the animals &#8220;should be wild&#8221; do so in bad faith, because there is no such thing as the wild.  It&#8217;s going bye-bye.  They argue about the danger and exaggerate its importance as part of an agenda to rid the world of the animals, not as part of any human safety agenda.  Anyone should be able to figure that out when the same people that argue that animals are bad for humans also argue that humans are not good enough to live with animals.</p>
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		<title>By: Born to be Wild</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-177663</link>
		<dc:creator>Born to be Wild</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 17:36:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>While speculation surrounds the manner in which the Siberian Tiger may have escaped or if the animal was provoked, what cannot be disputed are the heartbreaking consequences of what can happen when an untrained human confronts a large, dangerous carnivore. In a culture where a tiger cub can be purchased online for the price of a pedigree dog, it is critical that accurate and comprehensive information is made available to the public.

In the U.S. alone, over 10,000 tigers reside not in accredited institutions with licensed professionals, but in private citizens’ backyards, basements and urban apartments – even more than remain in the wild. Since 2000, there have been over 190 incidents involving captive big cats and people resulting in 12 deaths, 89 injuries and 91 big cat escapes.

About 20 states already prohibit the private ownership of large cats, but others have only minimal restrictions, lenient permitting requirements or no laws at all. Every state should prohibit the ownership of big cats such as tigers and lions as pets. These dangerous, wild animals are unpredictable and require specialized care that the average person cannot give.  

Our thoughts and prayers should go out to the Sousa family and all those effected by this tragedy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>While speculation surrounds the manner in which the Siberian Tiger may have escaped or if the animal was provoked, what cannot be disputed are the heartbreaking consequences of what can happen when an untrained human confronts a large, dangerous carnivore. In a culture where a tiger cub can be purchased online for the price of a pedigree dog, it is critical that accurate and comprehensive information is made available to the public.</p>
<p>In the U.S. alone, over 10,000 tigers reside not in accredited institutions with licensed professionals, but in private citizens’ backyards, basements and urban apartments – even more than remain in the wild. Since 2000, there have been over 190 incidents involving captive big cats and people resulting in 12 deaths, 89 injuries and 91 big cat escapes.</p>
<p>About 20 states already prohibit the private ownership of large cats, but others have only minimal restrictions, lenient permitting requirements or no laws at all. Every state should prohibit the ownership of big cats such as tigers and lions as pets. These dangerous, wild animals are unpredictable and require specialized care that the average person cannot give.  </p>
<p>Our thoughts and prayers should go out to the Sousa family and all those effected by this tragedy.</p>
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		<title>By: Right On</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-177512</link>
		<dc:creator>Right On</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 14:28:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>People like Roy sometimes know more about the animals they live and work with daily than all the book-learned people with degrees put together. To say a person is not worthy to own an animal because they are not 'accredited' by a certain 'club' (AZA, USDA, TAOS, ASA,ZAA etc.) is just wrong... as is exempting these clubs from the regulations others must comply with. We should all be working towards the same goals, the best lives possible for all animals in captivity and the rights of the people to choose to spend their lives caring for them.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>People like Roy sometimes know more about the animals they live and work with daily than all the book-learned people with degrees put together. To say a person is not worthy to own an animal because they are not &#8216;accredited&#8217; by a certain &#8216;club&#8217; (AZA, USDA, TAOS, ASA,ZAA etc.) is just wrong&#8230; as is exempting these clubs from the regulations others must comply with. We should all be working towards the same goals, the best lives possible for all animals in captivity and the rights of the people to choose to spend their lives caring for them.</p>
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		<title>By: Ellen Gill</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/112827#comment-177152</link>
		<dc:creator>Ellen Gill</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 06:59:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>WOW!!! You sure told it like it is!!! As someone who's MET Siegfried and Roy, calling ROY a "pet owner" or "trainer" is outrageous!!! Most, if NOT ALL, of the tigers, especially, were "hand-raised" by him and a few were "dropped in his lap in the 'birthing room,'" as any fan could tell you!!! Certainly HE knows how to deal with them--biting the nose of one who got too rough with him years ago!!!! What can WE, the PUBLIC and non-AZA members, do to help in this fight? Thanks for sharing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>WOW!!! You sure told it like it is!!! As someone who&#8217;s MET Siegfried and Roy, calling ROY a &#8220;pet owner&#8221; or &#8220;trainer&#8221; is outrageous!!! Most, if NOT ALL, of the tigers, especially, were &#8220;hand-raised&#8221; by him and a few were &#8220;dropped in his lap in the &#8216;birthing room,&#8217;&#8221; as any fan could tell you!!! Certainly HE knows how to deal with them&#8211;biting the nose of one who got too rough with him years ago!!!! What can WE, the PUBLIC and non-AZA members, do to help in this fight? Thanks for sharing.</p>
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