The article below is illustrative of the problems with the child support system in many ways:
1) I’ve often made the point that when we jail or threaten to jail child support debtors and they pay money to stay out of jail, this money often is not theirs but instead money they’ve borrowed from their family and friends. Yet inevitably whatever chest-thumping/publicity-seeking DA who’s behind the latest crackdown will tell you, “See? The deadbeats have the money and the threat of jail makes them pay!”
In this article, a judge is admitting that threatening to jail people means they borrow money from family members to stay out. He’s admitting that they don’t have the money to pay themselves, and that they’re being jailed for inability to pay their debts. In other words, debtor’s prison.
2) I’m not sure if we have any Father of the Year candidates in this article, but most of the “deadbeats” certainly seem to be low-income men whose ability to pay is questionable. We’re told two of their occupations–one is a roofer, the other is a construction worker–and both claim they’re having a hard time finding work. One of them says that the fact that his driver’s license was suspended for nonpayment of child support has made it more difficult to find work.
3) Most notable is the article’s assertion that Andrew Tayrien was sentenced to “20 years in prison for non-support, a class B felony.” Twenty years? Is that a misprint?
4) The article mentions the Arkansas Department of Finance & Administration’s Office of Child Support Enforcement’s new top Child Support Evaders list, which can be found here. Of the six listed, the biggest “deadbeat” is a waitress. We also have one youth camp worker, and four people who are so successful in their careers that the DFA doesn’t even know what their occupations are.
Oh, and tell me, when they catch the waitress, are they going to sentence her to 20 years in prison?
The piece is below. Tracy M. Neal, who wrote it, doesn’t seem to understand the implications of the facts in her own article–she can be reached at tracyn@nwanews.com.
Thanks to child support expert Jane Spies of the National Family Justice Association for sending me the article. Jane discusses problems with the child support system in her recent article The Myth of the Successful Child Support System.
SUNDAY FOCUS : Big child-support bills could result in jail time
By Tracy M. Neal Staff Writer / tracyn@nwanews.com
November 11, 2007
BENTONVILLE — Child support or jail.
That was the rule Circuit Judge Xollie Duncan stressed to people recently as they were called before her for failure to pay child support.
Duncan and Circuit Judge John Scott set aside a day each month to hear such cases.
“The rule is you pay child support or you go to jail,” Duncan said to Richard McKeever. “You understand that.”
McKeever was arrested for failure to pay child support. He owes more than $23,500. He claims he works part time in a construction job and received $215 several days ago.
“I’ve been trying to make enough to live,” McKeever told the judge.
McKeever claims he works with an acquaintance who drove him to job sites. McKeever is hampered from finding a better job because he lost his driver’s license — one of the punishments for his failure to pay child support.
Michael Shoane, an attorney for the local Child Support Enforcement Office, described McKeever as an able-bodied man who can work.
“Did you pay at least $10 toward support from the $215 you earned?” Duncan asked McKeever.
McKeever hadn’t.
“You are going to spend your holidays in jail,” the judge said.
She scheduled a review hearing for Jan. 9. McKeever can be released if he pays $4,500 of the child support.
Another man — Tommy Martin — claims he lives with his mother and last worked several months ago, roofing with his cousin.
Martin owes $35,000 in child support.
He is currently serving 78 days in the Benton County Jail from a sentence in Lowell City Court.
“I would like to get a steady job so they can take it out of my paycheck,” Martin said.
“You waited until you were $35,000 in arrears?” Duncan asked. “Don’t you think that’s a little long to be waiting?”
Martin will be in jail until a Jan. 9 review hearing.
McKeever’s and Martin’s cases are the result of lawsuits brought by Child Support Enforcement, but other such cases also make it to criminal court.
Circuit Judge David Clinger recently sentenced Andrew Tayrien to 20 years in prison for non-support, a class B felony. Tayrien owes more than $50,000 in child support. He must serve at least one-sixth of the sentence before he is eligible for parole.
Three men were on the docket in Duncan’s court recently, but Duncan and Scott also have cases involving women who have not paid support for their children.
Some of those women were jailed for not living up to the court’s order toward child support, the judges said.
Duncan and Scott stressed that the vast majority of parents who are supposed to pay child support do so, but others need attention from the court in order to live up to their obligations.
“The money seems to come out of the woodwork when you send people to jail,” Scott said. “I’ve had people get in touch with family members for the money before we can even transport them to jail.”
Besides jail, Scott said, he has ordered some to perform community services. He sent some men to help clean brush and tree limbs after a large freeze.
As in McKeever’s case, the state can authorize that an individual’s commercial or regular driver’s license can be suspended for failure to pay child support. Recreational licenses, permanent license plates, professional and business licenses can also be suspended, according to the state Office of Child Support Enforcement’s Web site.
OSCE also has a Web site with photographs of its top child-support evaders. The Web address is http://www.arkansas.gov/dfa/child_support/ocse_evaders.php.
Individuals on the Web site have not made a child-support payment in at least six months, owe at least $5,000 and are wanted by the state’s OCSE for nonpayment of child support, according to the Web site.
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackI agree with the argument. It is ery similar to what happene to me an my siblings.
I meant,i agree with the argument. It is very similar to what happened to me and my siblings.
FYI The judge who gave a man 20 years and the one who sentenced a man to “spend the holidays in jail” are a married couple.
My family and friends have bonded me out of Benton County Jail for this very problem. I have returned to Texas on Father’s Day, June 15th, 2008. I have now lost my job as a result of this incarseration. I have returned home to pick up the pieces of the broken life of my mother and family.
I was in jail for 6 weeks for a felony non-support case which my exwife filed against me. I have had to borrowed over 1100.00 to get bonded out of jail. I have retained an attorney which will easily cost me over 3,000.00 (if I am lucky). I am facing extradtion fees of around 2000.00, county cost of 1000.00, DNA fees of 250.00, court costs, and probation or parole fees, which can be astronomical. Not to mention that I will most likely leave with a felony, which will prevent me from getting a decent job in the future, once my mother passes away. Moreover, my child support has continued to accrue while I was incarserated. I have to return to Arkansas for the civil part of my child support modification request. OCSE’s, Michael Shone has stated in a reponse to a motion to modify my child support, that I chose to care for my elderly mother, knowing that I had an obligation to pay 779.00 a month. In early 2005, I requested a modification to be done by OCSE. At that time my case worker did not explain to me that just filing the 8 page form and returning it to their office was not enough to change the obligatory amount. I returned this form to OCSE and I have requested open files about my child support case 2 times from both Arknasas’ and Texas’Attorney Generals Child Support Divisions, respectively. Neither one has given this enformation requested. The only thing they give me is a copy of my payment history. The open file will contain communicaiton that I have had with their office and myself. One will find that I have been in contact with the Child Support offices on a regular basis.
I have an interstate child support case between Arkansas, Benton County, and Texas, Tarrant County. I have 4 daughter’s from one marriage of 12 years. My x-wife, Patricia C. Todd, has told me that she contacted the child support office in Arkansas to help her collect the arrears amount I have on file. This amount was over 38,000.00 in November 2007. I am now in arrears of over 42,000.00 as of June 2008. They told her that they can not do much to help her because I live in Texas. They recommended that she go to the Prosecuting Attorney’s office in Benton County, 479-271-1028 (?).
I wish for my case to remain in Texas, and I had agreed to pay 65% of my income. It is my understanding that Texas law is to withhold only 50% up to the amount. Again, I am now unemployed and very frustrated with the system.
My child support is set through Benton County at 179.00 per week. The child support is collected through the Texas Office out of Fort Worth. My case worker there has taken over my case this past month. Her name is Arlette Hampton. She can be reached at 817-926-7197 or 1-800-778-9982.
I was working for The Coffee House Gallery, 609 S. Jennings, Fort Worth, TX 76104, 817-335-4646. Again, I had requested that my employer take out 65% of my income to pay extra monies. She had done this and had written a letter for me to provide to the appropriate persons involved in helping me fix my problem. Of course it is too late for this to do any good.
My situation is very desperate. I have been my mother’s primary care take since 1999. She and one of my sisters, Sylvia Garcia, lived with my x-wife and I the last 2 years of my marriage. Sylvia is a special needs person. She is 51 and is mentally disabled. She now lives in a nursing home, Community Care Center on Lueda St, 817-332-7003, in Fort Worth, TX. My mother suffers from dementia, diabetes, COPD, and several other debilitating health problems. I have had to become my mother’s primary care-taker because another of my sisters, Sandra Garcia, breached her fiduciary duty and spent everything my mother had. Sandra then sold my mother’s home for $15,000.00 to her boyfriend in October, 2004. I went through Probate Court 1, Tarrant County, to file for Guardianship in January 2005, to try to help save her home. My mother lost her home and was evicted on August 13th, 2007. I have records from the Courts of Tarrant County, doctor’s statements showing that I am the in this situation. These documents are all on record with Tarrant County as well.
Once again, as I mentioned earlier, I requested that my child support be modified in 2005. The Child Support Office in Arkansas and Texas both have this on file. My case worker in Arkansas was a lady named Dana. While I was in jail, my case worker has changed 2 times, and now I am being told that my case has been moved to OCSE’s Legal office, where I getting less assistance from. I am told that I had to request in writing for proof of the request for modification. I have done this and sent a request in writing. The child support office seems to not want to relinquish this information and has only returned my payment history to me. I believe that I will need this proof when I go to court for the criminal part of my legal problems regarding my child support issues.
In September 2007, I sent 50.00. In November 2007, I sent 50.00. In December 2007, I sent 400.00 directly to my children so that they would get the money before Christmas. In January, I sent 100.00. I have receipts for these monies and have requested that they be put in my file. I have also sent 80.11, 240.00, 240.00, and 220.00 through my employer, prior to being arrested. I know that this was not much, but it is all I was able to send. Again, I had made arrangements to have money sent every pay period to the Child Support Office.
I have been in contact with my children almost every day. I know that I have taken for granted that my x-wife makes over 90,000.00 a year. She will be completing her DR. degree very soon and will jump in the Rogers Public Schools pay scale a substancial amount very soon. She is an administrator in Rogers Public Schools, in Arkansas. She directs the ESL and Migrant Program. She is remarried and it is my understanding that her new husband, Bruce Todd, is having legal problems with his child support. I know that they were separated in November and that they are trying to work things out.
My three oldest daughters each have their own cell phones. They have 4 computers in the home. My ex-wife has just purchased them new guitars. In December, they purchased a 56″ television. I am confused as to how my oldest daughter, Megan is driving on a spare tire, while these large purchases are being made.
Patricia went to the Prosecuting Attorney to attempt to have the courts monitor my child support case the way Bruce’s is done. She told me today that it was not her intention to have me put in jail. However, that appears is what will now happen. Patricia has filed a felony non-support case against me.
In the mean time, I am living on Food Stamp to survive and be able to care for my mother.
Again, if I am convicted of a felony, I will not be able to get the assistance I need to survive from the Department of Human Services, to vote, or many other things. I am honestly scared and do not know what to do to fix this. I need advise and help. I do not have money for an attorney, but Joanne McCrackin, of Garfield, AR has agreed to let me make payments and will represent me.
I had been contacting Deputy G. Leddy, 817-884-1320, every day. Deputy Leddy had the warrant for my arrest. He came to arrest me on Tuesday, the night of the caucuses. I just happened to be participating in the caucus that night when he came by. My mother answered the door and is panicking. Her dementia and fear of not having me here to care for her is too much for her. I had made arrangements for my mother to go to Colorado. She was brought back to Fort Worth the end of April because my sister Rita McCullough was unable to give her the care she needed. Rita lives in Bailey, Colorado, in the mountains. My mother returned to my home and my friends have been helping to care for her while I was in jail for about 4 weeks of my 6.5 weeks of incarseration. My friends have all loaned me money to bond out, so that they can get on with their lives.
Please let me know of any organizations, government help, or anything that I can do.
I can be reached at 817-995-3539 any time.
Again, please help me or refer me to someone who can.
Sincerely,
Alberto Garcia
Alberto- i wish i could help. i am the wife of someone currently in the same situation as yourself. (he has an x-wife & child from 16 yrs ago) the system is so devilish.
i will pray for you and your mother. i will also pray for your children. please pray for my children too. if my husband goes to jail, i will be stuck, and become yet another welfare mother, all because my husband is unable to afford his payments. i would give you money if i had it because i know how hard and heartbreaking it is to go thru life always looking over your shoulder. But, all i can offer is my prayers, and i know Father hears all. Don’t lose your faith even when it seems like there is no point in retaining any. We never know, we very well could recieve what we need when we least expect it. Maybe not, but Maybe! In Christ, from C.P.
My husband has been involved with a child support case in Arkansas for
many many years.It was permanently assigned to OCSE in 1996 until the ex
closed the case in 1999 in the middle of the trial which started in
1998. ( We have lived in Tennessee for 23 years) His 2 children are now
29 and 33 years old with 3 children of their own. He got a $14,300 child
support judgment back in 1986 which according to an Arkansas Child
Support Document shows this was paid off in Nov 1993 yet Arkansas OCSE
“forgot” to file a satisfaction. His ex in 1999 found out that it was
not recorded as paid off and she then closed the case with OCSE and went
to an attorney who has represented her for years and is very powerful in
Arkansas. They made up numbers which my husband denied owing in court
and then her attorney along with our attorney signed a waiver for the
first day of trial not be transcribed. The transcriptionist was there
transcribing but denies being there. She even smiled and spoke to us
that day!! We did not know about this waiver until after the court when
we found it at the courthouse.(It is now stamped as if it was filed
before the first morning of the trial.When we first found it it was not
stamped as filed.This waiver date is the day that we denied owing
anything else so he had to dispose of it! ) This waiver helped to deny
us of our due process of an appeal. Then this opposing attorney typed up
an order and had the judge sign it stating that the plaintiff and
defendant through their attorneys agree that my husband owes over
$40,800 in arrearages from this $14,340 1986 judgment that we have all
of our cancelled checks to prove has been paid off!! The attorneys did
not sign this order but it was “stamped” only with the judges signature!
There was NEVER an agreement by the parties!.( We DO have a letter that
this attorney wrote the judge saying he did not think our attorney would
sign it yet it was filed with the judges
signature the next day! We were ordered to pay $5,000 lump sum to the
ex
or for my husband to spend 6 months in jail! We went and borrowed the
$5000 to keep him from having to go to jail. We then went and got a new
attorney to file our appeal even though we only had the last day of the
trial because the first day had been destroyed (due to the waiver the
attorneys had
signed.) The new attorney said he had never heard of the ex`s attorney.
This new attorney then filed our appeal a day late and sent us a letter
saying the appelant court threw it out because it was late! We filed a
complaint on this new attorney . The ex`s attorney (who had recently
served as chairman of the Ethics committee) wrote a letter on the new
attorneys behalf concerning our complaint and the committee only gave
him a warning!!! ( This new attorney then said the ex`s attorney had
been a family friiend for years! ) We continued paying ex $300 month but
we realized that we were approx $13,000 overpaid and my husband became
very ill so we stopped paying in March 2005. Then in 2006 they took my
husband back into court and they got a judge to have an expideted
hearing in a little room in the courthouse.
They called it Circuit Court but Circuit Court was being held upstairs
by a lady judge and our court was the only one being held in that little
room.
The judge (chosen by her attorney) drove from out of town just to hear
our case. When spectators came in they were immediately sent out.. The
judge refused to look at our proof of payments and just said all we had
was a paper from OCSE and they had a paper showing what we actually
owed! It was figured by a man who had his accountant license taken away
and was sent to prison several years ago for money laundering! He had
been the ex wife`s boyfriend for years and has been a car salesman since
getting out of prison.
All of these people knew this was totally fraud yet the judge ruled that
my husband could pay a lump sum of $15,000 plus at least $500 month
until this fraudulant $48,000 was paid off or spend 6 months in jail! He
wanted us to report back to the Court about a month later with the
$15,000 or my husband to come prepared to stay in jail. We tried getting
to the courthouse on court day even though we did not have the $15,000
and had no possible way of getting it. We were worried about having the
gas money to get there. Our car started running hot and we turned around
and e-mailed our attorney telling her our circumstances. She went on to
court for us. The judge then ordered the $48,000 plus $1000 to her
attorney to be paid in a lump sum or my husband go to jail!! (We had
already paid our attorney $7400., which we had to borrow, and were
totally broke!) We do not even have $48.00 much less $48,000!! We have
absolutely no way to get this kind of money. We have been in real estate
for 20 years and houses are just not selling!! Our grown daughter is
bringing us food for survival and she is on government assistance trying
to raise 3 kids on her own. In our testimony we told the judge about us
losing our Real Estate building to foreclosure (where we have run our
company for 16 years), We also told about having our car and van being
repossessed. We are having to borrow an old 1990 car from my brother.
He has taped the back glass in with wide black tape and if it rains we
just get wet. It has huge hail damage ALL over it and the top is
severly torn all over. The paint is coming off on all four sides and of
course it has no air. We have no retirement or health insurance. His ex
has a great retirement, good health insurance and a good income at a
college where she has worked for years. She drives a nice like new car,
wears designer clothes,and lives in one of Blytheville`s most exclusive
neighborhoods. She takes a vacation at least every year. We have not had
a vacation in 14 years!! Never in all of these years has any financial
means EVER been shown.
We do not even have the money to pay our bills each month and we have
not bought any clothes in several years. We are considering filing a
chapter 7 bankruptcy because we have absolutely $0 equity in anything.
We are totally broke! We appealed our case to the Arkansas Court of
Appeals and they affirmed the case June 25th 2008 . We cannot prove it
but it is our belief that the ex`s attorney somehow did the same thing
he did with the judge in
1999 and showed the folks at the appellant court (which he knew well)
these fake documents as if we owed this money. If my husband goes to
jail or if they garnish his check I will lose my home of 23 years to
foreclosure and even though it has no equity it is still home and it`s
all I have now. My husband recently got a job working in a restaurant
making about $300.UNDER enough each month to pay our bills. The ex wife
has told their children that she knows this case is illegal but the
courts has said she can get this money and she WILL get it or my husband
WILL go to jail!! We sent approx $8400 directly to her one year (as
requested by her attorney) which she never reported to OCSE and the
$5000 we paid for the purge in 1999 was also never reported to OCSE. I
sent copies of these cancelled checks along with a copy of the cashiers
check for $5000 to Little Rock OCSE but they were never recorded in our
file there. We also have a “certified” copy from Little Rock OCSE from
several years ago where all of our checks were not shown!! It does not
even match their printout! The Blytheville Courthouse does NOT show the
$5000 in their printout of what`s been paid even though it was paid to
them (and they STILL show a $0 balance without these payments) If it had
been recorded it would show us being overpaid! They did make a note of
the $5000 in the docket book. If they had just those payments to ex
with the $5000 alone recorded we would be $13,000 overpaid in their
records! The ex`s attorney has now filed a document in our file in the
courthouse as if it came from OCSE with these fake figures being owed!
Blytheville OCSE as well as Little Rock now say they have nothing in
our file because the case has been closed .They can only give a payment
history (which does not show all
checks) and which does not give a balance at all ! If only they had
filed this satisfaction in Nov 1993 when it was paid off we would not
have lost everything and we would not be going through this awful
nightmare!! Her attorney is so powerful that he can get away with all of
this theft and fraud and get others to conspire with him to pull off
this extortion. He is so powerful that nobody will go against him in
Arkansas so we HAVE to get it before the federal people so that we can
prove this fraud!! Her attorney even somehow got my personal & company
tax return years ago without my knowledge. (It was for a year that I was
not even married to my husband until Oct that year!) How he got it is
beyond me but I have had identity theft ever since! We just need
someone federally to audit this child support case so that this terrible
mess can be resolved proving we do not owe this money so we can go on
with our life and my husband will not have to fear jail or garnishment
for this money that we do not owe. Isn`t this what is called debtors
prison–when you are forced to go to jail if you cannot pay a fraudulant
debt? If we were to have to pay what`s been ordered we would be paying
about $100,000 (counting what we have already paid and what is now
ordered) for this $14,300 judgement from 1986.! Anyone should be able
to tell that on a $14,300 judgment at 10% interest for 22 years ,even if
we had paid nothing– (which we have paid $39,600 on)–this $48,000
additional amount as just affirmed by the Court Of Appeals is totally
impossible!! I`m just thankful we have ALL of our cancelled checks to
prove our innocence! We do not have any more money we can use for an
attorney. Folks in Arkansas will not help us because of the power of
this ex`s attorney who has held several important offices in the state.
We first met our most recent attorney in the courthouse just a few
minutes before our trial (This is the one who filed our appeal). Even
though we paid her $7300 and she has billed us for over $4000 more she
was always too busy to sit down with us. To this day she has NEVER had a
sit down meeting with us.
We have no idea what her personal office looks like! We did first talk
to her father who is also an attorney and he immediately turned it over
to her.
She only used the records from the files at the courthouse which is the
very fraud we were fighting against! We left our cancelled checks as our
proof of payment with the secretary at her office but never saw the
attorney there.The only correspondance we have had with her was every
few months she would e-mail us or text message us (most of the time
around midnight). We would go for months wondering what was going on! We
did not have any idea what she filed with the Court of Appeals until
after she had it filed. We were then VERY shocked from the things she
did not mention! It was as if she had never been to our trial and did
not know what the case was even about!!
(Could she have possibly got into the scam with them???) We found our
Court Of Appeals affirmed case on the internet and we e-mailed her that
we found it but we have STILL not heard a thing back from her. We have
absolutely
nobody to help us now since we are broke! I do not expect to hear
anything
from you on this either because I know of the fear people have when it
is this many important Arkansas Officials involved in a case like this.
(There are at least 15 well known Arkansas officials involved) but I
know it is long and I really do appreciate you taking the time to read
it. I am not just another crazy person with another crazy story. This
case has cost me my entire life. It has caused us to lose all confidence
in our judicial system.
It is my belief that this case should be given strict attention just as
Paula Casey did in 1998 on an Arkansas Child Support case when she
brought down several important people in Arkansas. It should become a
case that is well known in Arkansas Corruption. We are in contact with
the media and several other important people and organizations.and will
not give up until something is done!Your attention or any suggestions
would be greatly
appreciated! Sam N Johns OCSE case # 027080360 and 001
1597699001
Arkansas Case # E-81-308 Arkansas Appeal Court # CA-07-1036 Our
phone # is 1-731-664-5209 Our e-mail is realworld11@jaxnet.net
I have another viewpoint coming from the opposing side - that of a single mom. I have 2 children and know what it is to have to tough things out. My husband left me for a girl barely over 18 whom he had gotten pregnant during the course of our marriage. He left & was seeing us both for a year - and I couldn’t figure out why he wasn’t willing to come back, but had tried everything to save our marriage. After he left, our only car broke down and he refused to help. He helped us monetarily but not for long. We eventually were on foot and me & my children had to walk to the store for things. A friend would drive me back and forth to work. He is now $11,000 behind on child support. It is so frustrating to have to fight constantly for what should be rightfully yours. If this man went on like that for a time as to accrue the amount worth a 20 yr prison term, he probably got what was coming to him. When you neglect financially helping your children, you would not believe the mental anguish that a person goes through. Having done everything right like you were supposed to and they walk, while you struggle. If you think about it, it would take a long time to accrue $35,000 worth of child support debt. Everyone knows that you are responsible for a child when you have one. It is their own choice to not have taken care of their responsibilities. I take care of every need of my children to make sure that they are ok. But I shouldn’t have to do it alone. The other party should be held responsible as well. If they have made the choice not to pay, then they have chosen the consequences that follow. Being a single parent, it is so hard to clean up anything on your credit that is left after a divorce and be able to take care of your current needs as well. Buying a good car or house is not in the picture b/c of every day struggles - even though it could be cheaper to pay a house payment rather than rent, etc. It affects the children as well. They are not able to have the things that their friends do. They haven’t done anything and deserve to have the same opportunities. It’s not right and he should be punished for not taking care of his responsibilities.
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Simple pay your fucking child support. Keep your shit in your pants. Hey here’s a fucking idea get a vasectomy and stop having kids when you know all you are is a roofer,waitress,plumber,burger flipper,coffee maker, and all around blue collar worker that can’t afford $200 a week. Mexico has nothing to do with Americans taking care of their children. Deadbeat American men who fornicate and than are willing to just not work. They will live at mamma’s house and mooch off of anyone who let’s them. Send something every time money comes in your hands simple, you make 200 send $40 to the attorney general and keep all evidence of such transactions. No excuses you can’t afford to send in $40 after making $200. Simple idiots don’t get the big picture of the ripple effect on our economy from these parents running from their responsibility they have to raise these children feeling loved and supported and not crying woe is me I have to go to jail. Waaa waaa it’s not fair I’m really a good person it’s all their fault. GROW UP
oh… so all of a sudden its a “man’s fault” that he can’t support your bastard child. boo fucken hoo, take your own advice
“here’s a fucking idea get a vasectomy and stop having kids when you know all you are is a roofer,waitress,plumber,burger flipper,coffee maker, and all around blue collar worker that can’t afford $200 a week.”
it’s actually easier for women because they make birth control !!!!! wow. It takes two not one …i’m so annoyed whining single mothers who think they deserve the world because they’re single moms “Waaa waaa it’s not fair I’m really a good person it’s all their fault. GROW UP” in your words. i know its a fraudulent act of the government to pretend they give a shit about the child,so they can keep making that money. Thats why there’s over a million men in the u.s. paying child support for a child that doesn’t even belong to them and are stuck paying … and for this poor guy , i have family that is going through the same exact thing, and like you i am looking for help or absorb as much info as i can to help i feel for you and your family best of luck/stay strong…
It does NOT take long for $35,000 in support to accrue. Not if you have to pay $1200 per month and are not able to keep a job because the ex keeps having you arrested.
My husband has been arrested again for being in arrears. He has been making payments (what he can pay) has petitioned over and over to have support modified, not to mention he had moved back in with his ex after they had divorced and was paying everything for over a year and a half, she was supposed to have the support for that time terminated and never did.
She has constantly manipulated the system, sits on her fat butt doing nothing and takes everything she can from the state. She has also done the same thing to the father of her other two children. Women like that need to go to jail. Its fraud.
I have a big question wy wait until they ae so far beind and then want 5000 or more knowing tat most can’t pay 500 muh less come up with 5000. I believe childsupport should be paid, but i also believe that it should be based on morethajust howmuch the payee makes ad for the courts to wait until they are so far behind is just stpid and take thier license. y son-in-law is in jail right now for that very thing and i know he should pay is support, but also becuse his sons collect disablity chck of 665 a month for adhd and i think tht shouldbe considered and since it doen’t take much more that medicine and sould be conceling, but mom doesn’t do that i feel those monies should be considered, but it not.like i said yes children should be taken care of , but it should be alot to consider such as children after thier divorce it not the new children fault they need things also.
Well I can speak on the side of I’m owed 125,000 in back child support.He has the means to pay and has always lived 20 minutes from the Child Support Office in Texas.No one ever went after him,they just let the arrears keep adding up.I’m sorry I don’t have much sympathy for the people that owe Back Support,if you even tried to keep up your end then you would be in better shape.But see no one asks how we make it,when men like yourself are free to keep ignoring the court,and yes that is what you are doing,if I owed that much I would be in there everytime they wrote me a letter.If you have children and you know you have a court order then the judge should be the one you go to.And no they do not throw you in jail for trying,I’m tired of hearing that.My ex said the same thing however,he could not pay child support because he had a 250,000 dollar house to pay for 4 trucks,2 boats.lakefront property and a new wife and her bills.He jsut decided he is not going to pay.But now we are going to for contempt of court I would love to see him get 20 years.Then he will be in the same place I was trying to find jobs to support my son to keep us afloat.Maybe the prisons will feel sorry for him(not).Every dog has his day and some times we are around long enough to watch…
BOO HOO… PAY YOUR CHILD SUPPORT. IF YOU DONT THINK ITS YOUR CHILD.. GET A DNA TEST. AND THEN IF AFTER THAT ITS YOUR CHILD. BE A REAL MAN AND BE RESPONSIBLE. NOT ALL SINGLE MOTHERS ARE TRYING TO GET EVERY PENNY YOU HAVE. BUT IF YOU LET ALL THESE ARREARS CONTINUE. YOU ARE DOING IT TO YOURSELF. INTEREST IS NO FUN AND WHEN YOU DONT PAY..YOU ARE PAYING MORE INTEREST THAN A CREDIT CARD. SO YES DEADBEATS KEEP LETTING THE ARREARS BUILD UP. I WOULD LOVE TO GET YOUR INTEREST. STUPID MEN. MAYBE YOULL GROW UP NOW!
This whole thing about when fathers can’t pay their child support and being labeled ALL as Deadbeat Dad’s pisses me off!!
I am classed as a Deadbeat Dad. I came over here from England in 2002. Married this f***ed up bitch unfortunately.. I got a great child out of it, but the EX is just horrible. She leeches off the system, gets food stamps, hasn’t worked in over 10 years, Medical card, HUD, the works. She lives with her ex con boyfriend who got put in jail for Fraudulent Checks. She kicked me out for this guy.
I was working when we split, and was paying NON COURT ORDERED -WHICH MEANS I DID NOT HAVE TO PAY ANYTHING TO HER- of $150 every pay period so around $300 per month. Tried to get a divorce, but because we had to both take the parenting class, she thought she was too good to take it. I took mine, got the certificate and all, she fired her FREE lawyer because she didn’t think that she needed to pay the $50 to take the class. Which in turn stopped my immigration papers from being turned in on time because I had to have a divorce in order to file for being single now, and have my restrictions on my greencard lifted. So I couldn’t do that without getting divorced or I could get sent back.
Her lawyer had said that my child support would go up to $218 every 2 weeks, so I started paying AGAIN NON COURT ORDERED because it didn’t get through to the child support office by the time she had fired her.
I paid for a lawyer, brought the payments back down to $150 every 2 weeks, he told me that I need to start paying child support the day the divorce finalizes. Like an idiot I said OK..didn’t realize that it had been filed from him and I was accruing because I had lost my job. And I had 10 days to get a new job before my temporary green card expired.
So I lose my job, I move out, live with my gf. I called my lawyer, since we hadn’t got divorced yet, told him that I don’t have the $300 a month to pay because I am out of work, and have a letter to say that I am not allowed to be employed by anyone in the US at this point. He just told me to agree with the Divorce Decree, and then contact the child support people after that, and tell them that I can’t pay, and they will lower it.
Wrong again. I go to the child support office, ask them to lower it, my ex throws a bitch fit, goes in there and tries to put me in contempt of court. I don’t realize I’m behind by like $600 already.. so I go to court ready to fight. The public defender child support guy tells me that I need to work under the table like the rest of the illegals do, since I’m going to be sent back to England anyway. I tell him it’s illegal, and I’m not going to do that.
We go in front of the judge, she tells me I have the ability to make $2000 a month, and I need to pay it, and because I didn’t mention anything in the divorce about not being able to pay, I have to pay it. So I leave defeated and another $600 to be paid by the end of the month in order to not go to jail. My ex was loving it.. calling me all the time and telling me I’m gonna get f***ed by a bunch of men in jail. GOD I F***ING HATE HER.
I manage to get some money from my Grandmother in England, she sends it over, I pay it, I’m good. I went back to court a couple of times to try and get it reduced because I was not legally able to work. I started working online making maybe $20 a day on a really really good day. I go back to court, my earnings for the year including my online work,and my work that I got fired from was just over $7000. My child support was $3600 a year..so.. okay good I could pay for my child support. That year ends, still trying to sort immigration shit out, and still not legally able to be employed, and my ex calls me and tells me I need to pay child support soon because her cable is getting turned off.. OH F***ING BOO HOO. Spend time with our kid instead of using a f***ing TV to babysit her.
So eventually I am behind by $391 dollars for the year. I borrowed, and begged and worked as much online as I could 16 17 hours a day, and barely came up with it. Sometimes I was short, but every month I paid something. But for the entire year for someone who is not legally able to work $391 is not that bad to be behind. But I get to go to court again on February 10 to be held in contempt.
During this time, in the past couple of days, I have got my letter from immigration, approving me, making me legal. Now all I have to do is find a job. I know I’m not going to get a good one at first, but I will start at Labor Ready and earn like $30 a day maybe, and try and keep up with it until Feb 10. But here’s the kicker.. if I fail, and not have the money by Feb 10, then I will get to go to jail. Therefore pretty much f***ing me out of any chance of good employment that is going to pay me enough money. My total amount that I earned last year was just over $2300. My child support is still at $3600. I wasn’t allowed to get any kind of assistance like unemployment because of my legal status over here. The judge refuses to look at the paperwork, and just tells me I have the ability to make $2000 a month, and has imputed my ex at minimum wage. How f***ing fair is that.. She don’t want to work, and gets told she can get minimum wage. I am not legally able to work, and get imputed at $2000 a month. Injustice??? I think so!!!!
The child support system is set up completely wrong. I’m a deadbeat mom, supposedly. Why am I a deadbeat? Well, let me tell you.
I divorced a man who was emotionally abusive. Emotional abuse cannot be proven in court, therefore, he litigated until I lost my job, my home, and my car before I finally gave up custody because I had no way left to care for my children financially. After rendering me completely broke, he sued for child support. Because I’m the non-custodial parent, he got a ruling on it, for $250 a month.
As if that wasn’t bad enough, every effort I have made to find work, he has sabotaged, further impeding my ability to find work. Now, he’s trying to put me in jail for unpaid child support when he brings it on himself. Oh, and let’s not forget that while we were married, I stayed home with the children and raised them, now suddenly I’m not even good enough to see them.
I’m also in an economically depressed area where more jobs are being lost than produced. I’m not a “deadbeat” by choice, but that doesn’t stop him, and his new wife from calling me one.
Im right there with you “Noncustodialmom”. My name is Kathy Bertschy, and my story needs to be told. I am not afraid to step forward and say who I am. This story has grown to a ludicrous volume and the truth needs to be said. I have yet to voice my side, or stand up for myself , opinions in tow…in fear of the repercussions my voice has had in the past and the damage that it has caused my children under the scorn of a Judge with a wrath. Now, I have nothing else to loose….Hopefully someone reading will make a change in this run-away, over prosecuted excuse for a debtors prison.
I am of the same scenario, same situation as above mentioners…and the “EX” isnt even the paternal father. The paternal father was denied his rights in Judge Duncan’s court because he was/is disabled due to an accident! Not because he can’t provide for his own child or hasn’t been involved in his child’s life, but because Judge Duncan refuses to listen and act upon the truth that would label her wrong in her own past judgment/rulings. Judge Duncan would have to admit that she makes mistakes, hears only one side of a hearing before rendering orders, or has her mind already made up before the hearing ever is heard. She refuses facts to be heard and deliberately uses her courtroom power to hide the truth. She often plays favoritism to the “Good ole boy system” for those who have “favor” as the attorneys put it and it is very prevalent in the one sided hearings/proceedings. In my case, the paternal father does NOT/was not given rights by Judge Duncan. Therefore he, the paternal father, does not have to pay child support to the court appointed child thief, aka the “EX”. The paternal father and all involved have been court ordered NOT to allow any information of the paternal father and his family, aunts, uncles, brother, sisters, Grandmother and furthermore, to be stricken from our child’s life and ears for the safety of preserving (first and foremost) the integrity of Judge Duncans bad judgment/ruling however wrong and displaced her rulings may be. And also striking the paternal father from further contact to protect this biased ruling– giving a non-paternal person custody of a child…that was proven in court to have perpetrated a fraud upon the court with exploited lies. Lies that are being up held by Judge Duncan, in favor of a childhood schoolmates relationship (that exists between her and the “EX”). Therefore, neither one of us (paternal parents) are allowed to raise our child. Why, I ask? Not because of wrong doings…I promise you that! I alone now have the sole responsibility of financially taking care of our child. I have been ordered to pay child support in the amount of 850.00 a month for one child to a man who has lied for monumental gains and holds my child for child support ransom. He is allowed to do whatever he wants and I have to go to great lengths to protect myself from his manipulations. Manipulations that Judge Duncan refuses to hear and/or acknowledge. While the paternal father gets off free of charge, without any responsibility. Im being roasted alive in court, in society as a deadbeat, ostracized from my family, and humiliated in a town I once used to love to call my home.
This readers digest version doesn’t come close to the actual audacity of this case and this Judges rulings! Ohhh there is soooo much more to this out of control story BEFORE the court hearings ever took place… The threats Judge Duncan has made to me regarding my children– and the calculated and deliberate destruction of my family, as she has carried out those prior threats. Being incarcerated for long amounts of time on a civil contempt order, being held under a civil “call to court order” from Judge Duncans court that was never given so that I would loose custody of my children by default…not by actual wrong doing or that Im incapable but because I interjected a “sassed paraphrased” opinion against her ruling. Was her intent pre-planed? Deliberate? I dont know, I can only speculate, but yes, I think so. Now that enough time has pasted and many hearings have not been heard but yet deliberately manipulated by her and an unfounded ruling made without court transcriptions to back up the hearings/rulings/court orders… all my accusations are now prevalent.
But yet, I was transported for ALL the child support hearings…go figure! you can follow my blog if you want at…Fighting4Sadie.blogspot.com as I unfold the rights & wrongs of this case, in my opinion, and when possible– names, events, documents, etc provided….I AM and have ALWAYS been an exceptional mother/parent. I support my children needs (financially & emotionally). My child support was set at 850.00 a month for one child. Before the economy fell out I could afford that and all the MANY extras my child needed that I paid for..but has/was never been given credit or acknowledgment for in court. I asked the Child Support Division (case worker Gladis Rameriz) for a review hearing which was turned over to Micheal Shone. I have also ask my attorney (Erwin Davis) multiple times to file the proper paper work for a child support reduction hearing, which fell on deaf ears…before I got into serious trouble with my arrears…to no avail. It seems like no one wanted to do their job except the prosecutor and prosecute they have!
Judge Duncan has been the overseeing Judge in my case(s) and I have had to learn the hard way that as a civil Judge there are very few governing rules that they (a Civil Judge) has to abide by…Civil court is ALL based upon the presiding Judges opinion regardless of the actual facts. Therefore, the point here is that we are all missing the point. Fingers are being pointed of blame and excuses are being made…no facts, just one sided opinions! Not one of these overly educated people in power has a thought out plan or suggestion to change the “prosecution” of child support from being a negative to a positive. Why does it have to be a constant prosecution? Prosecution– or should I say incarceration, does NOT solve the problem! It may temporarily gain monumental relief, as many offenders DO borrow money from family and friends but that only temporarily solves the problem. As a matter of fact, that too only enhances the situation as the bills are now doubled to pay on personal loans. So, the child support payments are endangered again and quickly falls back into arrears creating a vicious cycle for everyone concerned. Yes, the Judge is tired of hearing excuses and seeing the same faces to where it all runs together. The Judge cannot (or in Judge Duncan’s case) does not even try to separate the cases…its just a blur of the same old story and same old faces– especially for her. If you don’t believe me, sit in on a few consecutive cases…see for your self. Im not even sure why she shows up at all. Its robotic in nature. If the offender is incarcerated (as most offenders are) then the jail clock ticks against the child support payments– meaning the arrears are STILL running, complicating the situation yet even further and NOT solving a thing, because the over-due child support amounts are stacking up to where the offender does not stand a chance in HELL to catch-up, overcome, or rectify the situation. Answer me this question…Now how in the HELL does that solve the problem? HUH??? So you’re going to tell me that all these overly educated power entrusted law twisting attorneys can’t come up with a suggestion or a solution better than incarceration to solve the problem of child support arrears? Why cant/dont these so-called educated people of power and social influences get off their lazy butts and actually work out the problem instead of adding to the problem by incarcerating everyone who approaches the bench? In my opinion, its cowardly, and laziness. YOU (Judge Duncan, Prosecutors, Child support enforcement officer Michael Shone, representing attorneys, etc) have the power to make a major difference in everyone’s lives. So why don’t you? The Judges, the prosecutor, ohhh lets not forget the Child support officer (Micheal Shone) could put your power heads together with the unemployment office,(send special notes to all hiring agencies if you must) so that people who need work and are behind on their arrears could be considered (perhaps made priority) for employment and MONITORED– helped with getting the arrears PAID, not just exclusively jailed, adding to the problem! Build a team of support! You don’t teach a person to stand by kicking his legs out from under him and then beating him to death to make him stand back up…are YOU CRAZY! The judge/prosecution takes away a drivers licenses privilege so the offender now CAN’T go to work! Then prosecutes them for it! Hmmm, and the point is…? Yeah, I can see where that helps the problem!
Judge Duncan is well known for her lack of interest in the cases set before her. She’s well known for only hearing just barley enough information to keep her hearings legal (rarely hearing both sides). She’s not at all interested in any thing, in all actuality I think shes sorry for taking the job as a Judge and it shows in her court room. Shes is secretly screaming for help with out letting society and her husband (Judge Clinger, whom she feels she has to continually impress to keep his attention and mimic him to stroke a shallow needy ego) actually hear it from her mouth. She’s a pathetic Judge, she rules like a person in pain! Im not saying that because Im on the outside looking in…there are others who have posted on Courthouseforums.com of the same opinion. YOU power-heads look like idiots…solve the problem! Incarceration is NOT the answer, forced unemployment is NOT the answer. The economy is a wreck but yet you preserver with cause but no solution! I owe my child support, it has NOT been reduced, nor will it be as it has now fallen into such a state that I can not go to court as I will be prosecuted. I am currently in contempt for walking out of the last hearing. I can’t go to jail and take care of my family…been there done that…didnt work then, wont work now. So my Child Support will continue to accrue out of control until the economy gets better and I can afford to make the high payments again. In the meantime, I cant even see my child….and there is justice in this? I am wrong…and YOU, Judge Duncan, Donny “lying-Child Thief” Hight (the “EX”) are not? Right?
SOLVE THE PROBLEM…DONT CREATE A BIGGER ONE!
I Have gave my ex husband plenty of chances to “catch up on his bills” 11 yrs worth of chances. So now I’m fed up & taking it all the way. I just went to the prosecutin attrny to file charges. I won’t/don’t feel sorry for him when they judges asks him to cough up money to pay his support. He knew he owed this money & too bad for him that “things are tough right now”. He’s damn right, things are tough trying to support 2 kids. He thinks that kids survive on oxygen alone. He owes over $$50,000 & if he gets jail time whether it’s 5 yrs or 20 yrs, don’t make a difference to me bc He isn’t paying his support either way, but what amazes me the most is that he is able to buy his new wife a brand new Lexus & support his step daughter very well. she seems to have the finer things in life while my kids are suffering for a new pair of shoes!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
And for those DEADBEATS out there that are complaining about getting jail time & blah blah blah. first of all, Y r u hiring a lawyer when u know ur guilty of not taking care of ur responsibility. That money you pay for a lawyer can actually b going towards the arrears u owe!!!GROW UP & TAKE CARE OF UR RESPONSIBILITY!!!
We all understand the right and wrongs of our doings…that is everyone one but Judge Xollie Duncan. The only way to get a fair hearing in her court room is to make her court room antics public and unite. Judge Duncan does NOT need to be in office. It is just that simple. But nothing is going to be done about it if you dont speak up. Staying silent is the functioning key that all bullies use as they beat you into submission. Speak up and tell your stories. Being labeled ‘DEADBEAT’ is a form of legalized bullying. Being ostracized from your community and family is also a non-violent form of bullying. It is legal. It is wrong! It needs to stop. There are better measures to take and/or implicate for parents who struggle at paying their child support other than that of over prosecution and humiliation. Now look outside of the box for a moment, the attorneys and Judges don’t make money that way…hmmm? Job security..right? It is all about the money, isn’t it? Not justice, not right or wrong, morals, ethics, down home caring…its about putting parents against each other in order to keep the fuss going. If you have lost custody of your child, its not because your the bad parent…it because you are the one who will fight the longest and hardest for that child.Lining the pockets of anyone, mostly attorneys who provide promises of false hope… The harder they (attorneys & Judges) stretch you over the barrel for outlandish child support payments that cant be made the more money the attorneys make and guarantee the Judges job securities. The judicial system has found a new way (trend, if you will) to initiate income for the over flooding of attorneys graduating law school. What are two main things that people will argue over the quickest… money and their children. Right?! Im calling it the “child support conspiracy.” My name is Kathy Bertschy. You can view my blog by Google-ing Fighting4Sadie. Best of Luck to you all.
Kathy Bertschy is a very sad, incredibly talented story-teller.
I AM THE PERSON WHO GOT 20 YEARS FOR NOT PAYING MY CHILD SUPPORT. I WAS WRONG FOR NOT PAYING IT, AND WILL NOT MAKE EXCUSES. I DO BELIEVE THAT 20 YEARS IS AN EXCESSIVE SENTENCE, BUT I UNDERSTAND THAT WHEN I WAS SENTENCED, JUDGE CLINGER WAS PROBABLY LOOKING TO MAKE AN EXAMPLE OF ME TO OTHERS. I HAVE COMPLETED MY SENTENCE (TOOK ME ABOUT 3 YEARS AND 2 MONTHS, WITH GOOD TIME), AND AM NOW REGULARLY MAKING MY CHILD SUPPORT PAYMENTS (AS A MATTER OF FACT, I RECENTLY MADE MY LARGEST PAYMENT EVER OF $628.08). I PRAY THAT NO ONE ELSE HAS TO SUFFER THROUGH AS MUCH PRISON TIME AS I DID FOR SUCH A CRIME AND I ENCOURAGE YOU TO TRY TO MAKE PAYMENTS, OR AT LEAST CONTACT THE CHILD SUPPORT ENFORCEMENT OFFICE TO TRY TO WORK THINGS OUT BEFORE IT IS TOO LATE.
ANDY
I was just sentenced to 10 years for getting 6200.00 behind on adult child support on my 36 year old daughter who is working and married. She was diagnosed with type 1 diabetes when she was 9 and when she turned 18 her mother was able to file for an indefinite extension under disability’s act.
I never was behind until 2004 when I was laid off I been working two and three part time jobs but slowly & surly I got a little more behind each year, even though I paid a little something each month I still been to court now 4 times over this now I have an appeal and pray that the judge will listen try and help me I am 61 years old and don’t want to die in prison so please pray for me.
For all of you screaming about dead beats and so on take a minute to listen to my story. I was married to a man who beat the hell out of me for 3 year from 15 to 18. At 18 I left with my 1 year old daughter and started trying to make it on my own. My ex went away to California for many years and it was a huge relief to me to be able to raise my child knowing she was safe. I got remarried and had 4 other amazing children and things went along without much of a hitch as the years passed by not once had I asked to raise his support I was just happy to get what I did from him when I did because he so frequently was fired from places of work there were many holes in his employment and he would fall behind. With my youngest child in applying for assistance of some kind either medicaid while I was pregnant or Arkids I’m not sure which they had changed the laws and suddenly we were switched from the courthouse handling our payments to the OCSE. I was not happy about this any more than he was and begged to have it sent back but they said no it was permanently with the ocse from that day on and there was nothing I could do. A few months passed and my ex had moved back in the area and shown his ass several times. I paid for insurance on our daughter and I had asked him to pay half of a 20 dollar co-pay. He told me that was what his support was for and that I needed to learn to budget better. I was so irritated I made a mistake and asked for the ocse to look into raising his support. I imagined it would raise 5 or 10 dollars but it didn’t, it doubled. I was not after that kind of war with him and I felt really bad. but it was done. A few months down the road he came to me telling me his girlfriend was pregnant and that they wanted May to come live with them. I instantly said no way, this WAS the guy I had to get a restraining order against for christ sake. Months went by and he sucked up to her more and more with each visitation and by the time it all went down my wonderful sweet child was screaming at me that I was the root of all evil and selfish for not letting her get to know her father.. I just thought I was trying to protect her. Then came the threats from him that my living arrangement would not meet court standards and that not only would he get our daughter but that I would loose my other children. NEVER BUY INTO THIS THREAT IT IS BOGUS!! But I was young and stupid and finally gave in to meet with his attorney and discuss arrangements. They set my child support at state minimum of 24 dollars and told me I had nothing to worry about it would never be enforced. DON’T FALL FOR THIS EITHER IT’S A LIE!! You can NOT over rule a court order with any kind of agreement verbal or written. Little did I know.. 5 years pass mostly uneventfully except that my daughter is miserable with her dad and cries to come home but getting her back is almost impossible after all the change was voluntary.. he had made me out to look like some kind of child abandoning tramp.. I will never understand EVER. But months before my daughter is about to turn 18 I get papers in the mail from the Office of child support enforcement. yup.. they start garnishing my wages and tell me I owe 5 years of back support which oddly has amounted up to a nice chunk of change and then they take me to court to raise on top of that. They were able to legally show through free rent and bonuses that were only one time and overtime that I had briefly that I made approximately 40,000 a year when my real income per my w2 with the only company I worked for was an actual 23,000 including my bonuses and overtime for the year and of course my rent can’t be classified as income per federal tax law but it can be for child support.. don’t let anyone say different. If you drive the bosses car, it’s your income!! At least for purposes of determining child support. I have had my passport revoked.. ok no biggie I wasn’t going anywhere anyway but it’s the principle, my credit went from a 680 in June of 2010 when I bought my car to a lowly 431 by April of 2011 from the derogatory things put on my credit for delinquent child support. If you hadn’t already gathered I am in real estate but I can’t get my real estate sales person license now because it is blocked for me. They take any tax return I get in full along with 50% of any lump sum payment I get which they still include 100% of as income to determine your regular base cs payments and while 50% of it is instantly gone towards arrears. I can’t get a job because my credit is so far gone and no one wants to mess with the paper work it would take to figure out my child support garnishment because in most cases they would have to take the maximum allowed by law and I would still be building more arrears until my daughter either moves out of his home, gets married, or graduates or turns 19. She turned 18 this week. He keeps her under his roof now by virtue of her freedom.. see he has the title to HER car in HIS name even though she bought it. I don’t know what will happen next but I’ve said it before I will say it again, I was not a DEAD BEAT MOM, I was a FULL TIME MOM! The point they started hitting me on the child support was the first job I have ever really had and they pushed and pushed until they knocked me down. I do not know much of anything about Xollie Duncan I seem to never get a chance talk to her face to face but maybe that’s a good thing. Michael Shoane on the other hand is a snake from the pits of hell. May you never have to deal with his kind. So let this be a lesson to all of you! I am here because I took pity on my ex after I had his support raised not ever thinking it would be so much. Now they seem out to steal my life in one form or another. No good dead will ever go unpunished take my word for it. By the way I had paid down almost the entire amount of back support owed in a matter of a few months by focusing hard on getting it paid off and done so I could get it off my credit. Then they took me and raised me so high that the 3,000 I was down to is now back to almost 10,000. I’m scared to death. Do people not see why the suicide rate is so much higher in this category? I stayed at home with my kids until my youngest was in Kindergarten then started working during her school hours. I worked my ass off got my GED because I never finished the 8th grade and got an education the best I could by teaching myself online, and learning how to type.. etc so I could get a decent job. Everything I worked so hard for was totally stripped from me, I had put in two years with the company I was with when I got news from someone at office level that they were going to fire me due to issues of the OCSE calling them constantly and causing them so much extra work and frankly garnishments never look good with an employer so I quit before I could be fired so I could keep my work history clean, it was the only reference I had and I worked damn hard for it. Not that it mattered in the end.
I wish all of you dealing with this court the very best of luck. We need to find out how we start to fight this? What is the answer? If anyone has a plan I’m in for helping however I can assuming I still have my freedom.
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