Rudy turned in his usual solid performance during last night’s Republican presidential debate in Orlando, FL, but Sen. John McCain (AZ) won hands down. All that testosterone on stage, and McCain was, without a doubt, The Man. At one point in the debate, asked about President Bush’s naivete in dealing with the Russians, McCain said, “When I looked into Putin’s eyes, I saw three letters: K … G … B.”
FOX News’ Chris Wallace had the first round of questioning, and led off by asking Rudy whether he was more conservative than Fmr. Sen. Fred Thompson (TN), Rudy declined to throw the first punch, and spoke of his mayoral record governing as a conservative in one of the most liberal cities in the country. When Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (MA) was asked whether he was more conservative than Thompson, he, too, pulled his punches, speaking of rebuilding the Reagan coalition.
Asked by Wallace to respond to the other two candidates, Thompson ignored Romney and hit Rudy with a series of jabs: “Mayor Giuliani believes in federal funding for abortion. He believes in sanctuary cities. He’s for gun control. He supported Mario Cuomo, a liberal Democrat, against a Republican who was running for governor, then opposed the governor’s tax cuts when he was there. So I simply disagree with him those issues. And he sides with Hillary Clinton on each of those issues.”
Rudy – famous for his pugnaciousness - didn’t take the slur lying down and gave Thompson a right hook: “Fred has problems, too,” adding that Thompson was “the single biggest obstacle to tort reform in the United States Senate. … Fred Thompson … blocked tort reform over and over and over again.”Wallace segued back and forth between Rudy and Thompson so they could finish duking it out.
Wallace then pitted McCain and Fmr. Gov. Mitt Romney (MA) against each other. McCain took Romney to task for his answer in the last debate about seeking legal advice before initiating a military action: “Those are the last people I would call in. I’d call in my wisdom, my knowledge, my background, my experience and my ability to lead this nation.” He then called Romney out on fooling people about his record and said, “I don’ t want you to start fooling them about mine. I stand on my record … as a conservative. … I don’t think you can fool the American people.”
Romney had to spend precious time explaining his “lawyer” comment in the previous debate, and was unable to address McCain’s charge that he is trying to pull a fast one on voters.
When it was his turn to answer a question Fmr. Gov. Mike Huckabee (AR) turned to Rudy, Romney, Thompson and McCain and said that he was “more than content to let you let them fight all they want tonight, shed each other’s blood.”
But the candidates also stopped beating up on each other long enough to smack Sen. Hillary Clinton (D-NY) around a bit. This time, Romney outdid Rudy in taking on Hillary: “I don’t want her as commander in chief. … She hasn’t run a corner store. She hasn’t run a state. She hasn’t run a city. She has never run anything.” Romney then used a loaded term when downplaying her experience: “The idea that she could learn to be president as an doesn’t make any sense.” Ouch!
Rep. Ron Paul (TX) managed to work his opposition to the Iraq War into a question on healthcare – and in question after question he implicitly or explicitly blamed the war for just about every domestic and foreign policy problem this country faces. Paul reminded the audience that President Bush ran and won in 2000 on a pledge that America would have a more “humble” foreign policy and not to get involved in nation-building or the internal affairs of other nations – but that was then, and this is post-9/11. As a tone-deaf Paul kept pressing the same irrelevant point over and over, the audience started to boo him.
The highlight of the debate was McCain getting a Standing O when he singled out a $1 million earmark for a Woodstock Concert Museum in New York being pushed by Clinton as an example of wasteful government spending, recalling: “I wasn’t there. I’m sure it was a cultural and pharmaceutical event. I was tied up at the time,” referring to his imprisonment in the Hanoi Hilton while the flower children were frolicking.
And Huckabee, who was in top form last night, came out with a line that brought down the house. Talking about healthcare reform, he noted that 10,000 Baby Boomers are signing up for Medicare every day and said: “When all the all those aging hippies find out they can get free drugs, just wait to see what that’s going to cost.”
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Follow-up comment rss or Leave a TrackbackActually, Paul was asked questions about the war which he answered and expanded to issues such as obeying the constitution and the growing economic problems. Since the very first question was about the war, the bit about crowd not putting up with his position anymore is simply false.
Since the Romney campaigned bragged about buying a lot of tickets, I suspect the audience was packed with candidate supporters and the war was clearly a contrasting issue. For that reason I’m not concerned about the boo.
Even so, I would stand with Ron Paul and take the boo if need be. He spoke the truth.
Only Ron Paul will defend this country. Others want to play empire games. Only Ron Paul will stay focused on getting those who hijack planes and destroy buildings. Others want to play empire games or wipe out Islam. Only Ron Paul pays attention to the dollar and the cost of government spending. Others will drive the country into ruin.
“and in question after question he implicitly or explicitly blamed the war for just about every domestic and foreign policy problem this country faces”
No he didn’t… but even so, the war and our monetary system are directly related to most of our nation’s problems. Our foreign policy costs $1 trillion per year at this point in time. Of course such a massive drain on our economy will have an impact on everything else we try to spend money on. It’s simple economics, folks!
As to the “boos”… are you honestly telling me it isn’t ironic that out of all of the debates held to date, this is the only one where Ron Paul (who has been consistent in his answers) was booed like this? He was applauded strongly with the very same types of answers in every other debate (incuding the others run by FOX News).
Just because you have a personal vendetta against the guy’s platform doesn’t mean you need to ignore the obvious.
“but that was then, and this is post-9/11″
Maybe you should say “but that was then, and this is post-Constitution” instead. That’s clearly the direction you are promoting. It is a victory for our enemies when we allow their actions to define the way we run our country.
Gotta say even as someone who isn’t a republican, I respect Ron paul, he is the only true republican in the bunch, his answers made the most sense, the war and our foreign policy is cutting heavily into our economy, without our overseas involvements we could fix a lot of our problems from social security (private savings accounts won’t save it, you can’t save the system by diverting money out of it and into private savings accounts), to healthcare, education etc., without raising taxes or hurting benefits. Our country needs to stop acting like a paranoid fearful nation, 9/11 didn’t change anything, except our courage, enemies will always exist, but we can’t police the world.
Actually, The Stiletto does not have a personal vendetta against Paul’s platform per se. He actually makes a lot of sense and The Stiletto would have voted for him - if 9/11 had never happened. There has to be a middle course between the neocons wanting to intervene anywhere and everywhere in the world and Paul’s isolationism. And BTW, The Stiletto will be going to a Ron Paul shindig this week as she knows at least 10 people who support him (paradoxically, with Rudy as their second choice should Paul drop out at some point).
What most folks don’t get is that we are seeing the rise of the Goldwater/libertarian wing, who Reagan strongly identified with.
The Rockefeller/eastern establisment wing is definitly pushing their candidates and attempting to marginlize anyone associated with the other wing of the party.
This is actually Ron Paul’s election to lose as GW has run the party into the ground. The way I see it Guiliani, Thompson and Romney will split the Rockefeller voters, Huckebee will garner the loins share of the Christian fundy vote and the small goverment libertarian leaning voters will be in Pauls corner.
Iowa will go to Huckebee and New Hampshire to Paul. After that who knows. But it will be fun to watch.
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