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		<title>By: Martin Lewis</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/110960#comment-936159</link>
		<dc:creator>Martin Lewis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Jan 2009 14:44:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Reviewing the responses to JK's post, it is funny that all replies are attacking JK for alluding that he is justifying the genocide and yet can not counter any of the specific he is outlining. He basically is saying that the resolution is a creation of the American-Armenians and has nothing to do with the US interest nor does it do any good to Armenia...and he is right. So - what the people above are saying is that what Armanians did prior to the so called genocide by killing Turks, burning their villages down in efforts to scare them our of East Turkey, and revolting against the government at the time using terrorism was completely acceptable and does not qualify as a "formal genocide" since Armenia did not have a formal government....and yet when the Ottoman government responded by forced relocation of the Armenians using forceful tactics including killing of civillians - this constitutes as Genocide?

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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Reviewing the responses to JK&#8217;s post, it is funny that all replies are attacking JK for alluding that he is justifying the genocide and yet can not counter any of the specific he is outlining. He basically is saying that the resolution is a creation of the American-Armenians and has nothing to do with the US interest nor does it do any good to Armenia&#8230;and he is right. So - what the people above are saying is that what Armanians did prior to the so called genocide by killing Turks, burning their villages down in efforts to scare them our of East Turkey, and revolting against the government at the time using terrorism was completely acceptable and does not qualify as a &#8220;formal genocide&#8221; since Armenia did not have a formal government&#8230;.and yet when the Ottoman government responded by forced relocation of the Armenians using forceful tactics including killing of civillians - this constitutes as Genocide?</p>
<p>How is this different than Israel bombing a school knowing there are innocent civillians inside?</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Michael</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/110960#comment-106669</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Michael</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2007 02:13:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>As to John Kandemir's comment it is obvious thar he is not denying the Genocide but trying to justify it. To wipe out a whole race because of the guilt of a few among them is very bestial and worst than the animals to. To kill the majority of the innocent ones because of the guilty minority is the biggest crime before God. The lessons of life the Turks teach are from the pit of hell and they do not belong to the human race or to planet earth unless they recognize the Genocide and make amends otherwise when their cup is full they have to drink from its bitterness and be no more.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>As to John Kandemir&#8217;s comment it is obvious thar he is not denying the Genocide but trying to justify it. To wipe out a whole race because of the guilt of a few among them is very bestial and worst than the animals to. To kill the majority of the innocent ones because of the guilty minority is the biggest crime before God. The lessons of life the Turks teach are from the pit of hell and they do not belong to the human race or to planet earth unless they recognize the Genocide and make amends otherwise when their cup is full they have to drink from its bitterness and be no more.</p>
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		<title>By: Aaron Ibranos</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/110960#comment-106026</link>
		<dc:creator>Aaron Ibranos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 23:44:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Ottomans still let Armenians live in the Empire in peace knowing they had betrayed their ancestors many times in history. Then Armenians teamed up with Russians from 1870 to 1915 and were punished for their killings and betrayal."

If anybody wants to see what Turks really think, read that passage again.  Armenians deserved it according to this fool, I guess just like the Jews deserved what they got for going against Nazi's, right?  See, this is the same type of langauge that the Ottomans used to convince its people to kill innocent men, women, and children and the current Republic of Turkey continues the genocide by denying it and using this same type of speech to even justrify it. But you know what, I cant blame him, he is a victim of state sponsored brainwashing and historical revisionism.   It is still sad though, God be with you John Kandemir, no one else is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Ottomans still let Armenians live in the Empire in peace knowing they had betrayed their ancestors many times in history. Then Armenians teamed up with Russians from 1870 to 1915 and were punished for their killings and betrayal.&#8221;</p>
<p>If anybody wants to see what Turks really think, read that passage again.  Armenians deserved it according to this fool, I guess just like the Jews deserved what they got for going against Nazi&#8217;s, right?  See, this is the same type of langauge that the Ottomans used to convince its people to kill innocent men, women, and children and the current Republic of Turkey continues the genocide by denying it and using this same type of speech to even justrify it. But you know what, I cant blame him, he is a victim of state sponsored brainwashing and historical revisionism.   It is still sad though, God be with you John Kandemir, no one else is.</p>
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		<title>By: R</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/110960#comment-105908</link>
		<dc:creator>R</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 18:29:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well over 1.5 million people died and to this day, the Turkish government justifies these murders as "casualties of war".  As the official argument goes,  the Armenian Christians joined the allies so they were massacred as traitors. What about the 750,000 Assyrian Christians that were massacred during the same time?  Over 1 million Assyrian Christians lived in the Hakkari region in South East Turkey 80 years ago, now there are only 2000 left. I guess they were traitors too. And I guess the 250,000 Greeks that were murdered were also a result of the war and not deliberate ethnic cleansing. I find it too convenient that all the massacred groups that were deemed as 'traitors' during WWI were Christians?  Ironically, the world seems to be heading in the same direction again. Intolerance of other religions is still status quo in the middle east. We need more dialog, Turkey should abolishe Article 301 which makes it a crime to “insult Turkishness” and own up to its past.
http://www.assyrianlife.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well over 1.5 million people died and to this day, the Turkish government justifies these murders as &#8220;casualties of war&#8221;.  As the official argument goes,  the Armenian Christians joined the allies so they were massacred as traitors. What about the 750,000 Assyrian Christians that were massacred during the same time?  Over 1 million Assyrian Christians lived in the Hakkari region in South East Turkey 80 years ago, now there are only 2000 left. I guess they were traitors too. And I guess the 250,000 Greeks that were murdered were also a result of the war and not deliberate ethnic cleansing. I find it too convenient that all the massacred groups that were deemed as &#8216;traitors&#8217; during WWI were Christians?  Ironically, the world seems to be heading in the same direction again. Intolerance of other religions is still status quo in the middle east. We need more dialog, Turkey should abolishe Article 301 which makes it a crime to “insult Turkishness” and own up to its past.<br />
<a href="http://www.assyrianlife.com" rel="nofollow">http://www.assyrianlife.com</a></p>
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		<title>By: Areen Babajanian</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/110960#comment-105853</link>
		<dc:creator>Areen Babajanian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 15:03:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'll rephrase...this issue is NEVER GOING AWAY.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;ll rephrase&#8230;this issue is NEVER GOING AWAY.</p>
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		<title>By: Areen Babajanian</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/110960#comment-105849</link>
		<dc:creator>Areen Babajanian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Firstly, a little bit of news for you Kandemir, there are no diplomatic relations between Turkey and Armenia.  The border is closed, but yes, as you say, there are flights between their respective capitals...what a wonderful token gesture, no?  With all this in mind, Turkey has been at worst an openly hostile neighbor, and at best, an indifferent one to Armenia.

Secondly, Blame Armenians and Armenian-Americans as much as you wish, but some historic wounds won't heal without at least some measure of acknowledgment and discussion from the historically "guilty" party.  Turks can classify Armenian obstinance as the result of this that or the other, blame others, dodge the core issue, but I assure you, this "Armenian question" is not going away anytime soon.  And rightly so.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Firstly, a little bit of news for you Kandemir, there are no diplomatic relations between Turkey and Armenia.  The border is closed, but yes, as you say, there are flights between their respective capitals&#8230;what a wonderful token gesture, no?  With all this in mind, Turkey has been at worst an openly hostile neighbor, and at best, an indifferent one to Armenia.</p>
<p>Secondly, Blame Armenians and Armenian-Americans as much as you wish, but some historic wounds won&#8217;t heal without at least some measure of acknowledgment and discussion from the historically &#8220;guilty&#8221; party.  Turks can classify Armenian obstinance as the result of this that or the other, blame others, dodge the core issue, but I assure you, this &#8220;Armenian question&#8221; is not going away anytime soon.  And rightly so.</p>
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		<title>By: John Kandemir</title>
		<link>http://www.bloggernews.net/110960#comment-105843</link>
		<dc:creator>John Kandemir</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Oct 2007 14:33:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<guid>http://www.bloggernews.net/110960#comment-105843</guid>
		<description>Let's remember some history lessons:  

  Ottoman Turks were in power in the Middle East for 800 years. All nations kept in peace with the "millet" system, which is very familiar to Sephardic Jews.  Arabs and Jews as well as Armenians and Kurds lived next to each other. All nations including Armenians in the Empire kept their religious beliefs and cultural values…  Who were the Armenians? For Turks, they were the traitors of Antioch defense in 1080, who sold Turks to crusaders. Ottomans still let Armenians live in the Empire in peace knowing they had betrayed their ancestors many times in history. Then Armenians teamed up with Russians from 1870 to 1915 and were punished for their killings and betrayal. Now, Turks are accused by their number one ally with an unfair political prosecution. As a Turkish-American, I have things to say: First, I am proud of my first homeland and her history. Second, this resolution has nothing to do with American people. People of the U.S. do not have any idea what is going on in the U.S. Congress. They just know that their president is playing a war game, which has already cost 4,000 American lives as well as that of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians. Neither the U.S. Administration nor Congress are doing their job like providing healthcare to all people and good education to youth. Americans do not know more than this. They just know Turkey is the name of a bird and a good ally. Third, if each one of the Congressman and Congresswoman asked their constituents about the bill all they would hear is: “It is not our business.” Last, Americans love the country of Turkey and would like to visit it at least once. Therefore, Turks should not get more frustrated with Americans and see the real animosity here.  It is Armenian-Americans who are pressuring their representatives for their claims against their historic neighbors, the Turks. What they only care about is their revenge without considering Turkish war losses. Do they care for American national interests? No. Do they care for the well being of other Americans? Certainly not.  Since Armenian-Americans and Armenians are the ones who want to hurt Turks, they, not Americans, should be seen as real troublemakers.  Actually, House Resolution 106 does not make much sense for Armenians themselves. What if Turks say “Okay, we understand Armenian animosity here; we accept the challenge. We are ending all diplomatic relations with Armenia and canceling all flights for Armenians in and out of Turkey and over Turkey. No more use of Turkish ports until Armenia demolishes all genocide statues in Armenia?” What will Armenian-Americans do to stop Turkey? Ask Congress to stop giving billions of dollars as foreign aid, which does not exist?  What else could Turks do? How about deporting all 70,000 illegal Armenian workers from Turkey? Who are they going to blame for loosing their jobs? How about the other 10 percent of Armenia's population depending on this income from Turkey? Are they going to love Armenian-Americans who enjoy the high living standards of Western civilization with their Mercedes Benz and Gucci while Armenians in Armenia live in poverty and chew endlessly on genocide gum on an empty stomach?  Armenian-Americans had one shot only and they fired it. Who is going to be hit is unknown now. If Turks make sure it is Armenians to be hit, that shot will be the one Armenian-Americans fired in their own foot.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let&#8217;s remember some history lessons:  </p>
<p>  Ottoman Turks were in power in the Middle East for 800 years. All nations kept in peace with the &#8220;millet&#8221; system, which is very familiar to Sephardic Jews.  Arabs and Jews as well as Armenians and Kurds lived next to each other. All nations including Armenians in the Empire kept their religious beliefs and cultural values…  Who were the Armenians? For Turks, they were the traitors of Antioch defense in 1080, who sold Turks to crusaders. Ottomans still let Armenians live in the Empire in peace knowing they had betrayed their ancestors many times in history. Then Armenians teamed up with Russians from 1870 to 1915 and were punished for their killings and betrayal. Now, Turks are accused by their number one ally with an unfair political prosecution. As a Turkish-American, I have things to say: First, I am proud of my first homeland and her history. Second, this resolution has nothing to do with American people. People of the U.S. do not have any idea what is going on in the U.S. Congress. They just know that their president is playing a war game, which has already cost 4,000 American lives as well as that of hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians. Neither the U.S. Administration nor Congress are doing their job like providing healthcare to all people and good education to youth. Americans do not know more than this. They just know Turkey is the name of a bird and a good ally. Third, if each one of the Congressman and Congresswoman asked their constituents about the bill all they would hear is: “It is not our business.” Last, Americans love the country of Turkey and would like to visit it at least once. Therefore, Turks should not get more frustrated with Americans and see the real animosity here.  It is Armenian-Americans who are pressuring their representatives for their claims against their historic neighbors, the Turks. What they only care about is their revenge without considering Turkish war losses. Do they care for American national interests? No. Do they care for the well being of other Americans? Certainly not.  Since Armenian-Americans and Armenians are the ones who want to hurt Turks, they, not Americans, should be seen as real troublemakers.  Actually, House Resolution 106 does not make much sense for Armenians themselves. What if Turks say “Okay, we understand Armenian animosity here; we accept the challenge. We are ending all diplomatic relations with Armenia and canceling all flights for Armenians in and out of Turkey and over Turkey. No more use of Turkish ports until Armenia demolishes all genocide statues in Armenia?” What will Armenian-Americans do to stop Turkey? Ask Congress to stop giving billions of dollars as foreign aid, which does not exist?  What else could Turks do? How about deporting all 70,000 illegal Armenian workers from Turkey? Who are they going to blame for loosing their jobs? How about the other 10 percent of Armenia&#8217;s population depending on this income from Turkey? Are they going to love Armenian-Americans who enjoy the high living standards of Western civilization with their Mercedes Benz and Gucci while Armenians in Armenia live in poverty and chew endlessly on genocide gum on an empty stomach?  Armenian-Americans had one shot only and they fired it. Who is going to be hit is unknown now. If Turks make sure it is Armenians to be hit, that shot will be the one Armenian-Americans fired in their own foot.</p>
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