Comments on: Storm Track Infiltration: Islamism and Turkey – The First Shoe Drops? http://www.bloggernews.net/110498 High-quality English language analysis and editorial writing on the news. Wed, 25 Nov 2009 10:17:40 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.3.3 By: matt http://www.bloggernews.net/110498#comment-94662 matt Fri, 28 Sep 2007 02:38:06 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/110498#comment-94662 what a load of crap... any one that feels the need to infringe on the freedoms of others to secure their own freedoms is like the old story of Nasrettin Hoja from Turkey, he saws off the branch of the tree he is sitting on, his reasoning? "because there are no others left". these century old stories of wisdom disquised as humour are well worth googling. Just because it seems like there is nothing else we can do - this may not necessarily be the case - have you tried UNDERSTANDING the other side in the 1st place. did you know that less than 30% of all muslims are arabic? why is a nun pious when she covers herself from head to toe but a muslim woman is seen to be oppressed. there are lots of single free educated independent professional woman around the world who decide to wear a scarf - and they are not all muslim NOR ARE THEY OPPRESSED IN NEED OF FREEDOM TO BE PROVIDED BY AMERICANS - IF IT IS DEMOCRACY THAT US BROUGHT TO IRAQ / THEN WE DO NOT WANT AMERICAN DEMOCRACY- get over it and try to contribute and be constructive. It is only those who have nothing positive to offer, offer destruction... what a load of crap…
any one that feels the need to infringe on the freedoms of others to secure their own freedoms is like the old story of Nasrettin Hoja from Turkey, he saws off the branch of the tree he is sitting on, his reasoning? “because there are no others left”. these century old stories of wisdom disquised as humour are well worth googling.
Just because it seems like there is nothing else we can do - this may not necessarily be the case - have you tried UNDERSTANDING the other side in the 1st place. did you know that less than 30% of all muslims are arabic? why is a nun pious when she covers herself from head to toe but a muslim woman is seen to be oppressed. there are lots of single free educated independent professional woman around the world who decide to wear a scarf - and they are not all muslim NOR ARE THEY OPPRESSED IN NEED OF FREEDOM TO BE PROVIDED BY AMERICANS - IF IT IS DEMOCRACY THAT US BROUGHT TO IRAQ / THEN WE DO NOT WANT AMERICAN DEMOCRACY- get over it and try to contribute and be constructive.
It is only those who have nothing positive to offer, offer destruction…

]]> By: bazaar http://www.bloggernews.net/110498#comment-94547 bazaar Thu, 27 Sep 2007 21:28:39 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/110498#comment-94547 "Things are not looking to good in Turkey when a large number of the population want to see creeping Sharia law in their country." Show me the poll that reflects the above. Just because a majority of Turkish citizens voted for the AK Party, in NO way does this mean they want Sharia law. I'm an American who has lived in Turkey for the past 8 years. Believe me, I'm less worried about secular democracy here than in the US. Good post, Nyoped. “Things are not looking to good in Turkey when a large number of the population want to see creeping Sharia law in their country.”

Show me the poll that reflects the above. Just because a majority of Turkish citizens voted for the AK Party, in NO way does this mean they want Sharia law. I’m an American who has lived in Turkey for the past 8 years. Believe me, I’m less worried about secular democracy here than in the US.

Good post, Nyoped.

]]> By: nyoped http://www.bloggernews.net/110498#comment-94468 nyoped Thu, 27 Sep 2007 17:27:30 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/110498#comment-94468 The Stiletto, Turkey is a secular democracy. Even though your nickname sounds European I am pretty sure you are American. In Turkey, we don't have "trust in god" written in our court walls nor on our money. Bible nor Quran has no role in the courts. Our politicians cannot claim that we are a nation under god. Liquor stores are not forced to close on any day of the week. There is no law banning atheist to run for government offices. And people are not tasered because of asking a question or being drunk. Islamists have won the election and secular democrats are actually doing something about that. When was the last time Americans had an impact on an issue realted to secularism? The Stiletto,
Turkey is a secular democracy.

Even though your nickname sounds European I am pretty sure you are American.

In Turkey, we don’t have “trust in god” written in our court walls nor on our money. Bible nor Quran has no role in the courts. Our politicians cannot claim that we are a nation under god. Liquor stores are not forced to close on any day of the week. There is no law banning atheist to run for government offices. And people are not tasered because of asking a question or being drunk.

Islamists have won the election and secular democrats are actually doing something about that. When was the last time Americans had an impact on an issue realted to secularism?

]]> By: The Stiletto http://www.bloggernews.net/110498#comment-93919 The Stiletto Wed, 26 Sep 2007 16:14:01 +0000 http://www.bloggernews.net/110498#comment-93919 Will someone please inform The Wall Street Journal (in particluar) that Turkey is not a "secular, pluralistic democracy"? Will someone please inform The Wall Street Journal (in particluar) that Turkey is not a “secular, pluralistic democracy”?

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